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I complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you.
Especially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty."
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Ngl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve."
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It is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint"
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We the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue."
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Also in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch."
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This article is from last week.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really."
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week."
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But the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job"
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You know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!"
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Politics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever."
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Good. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a "We Tread On You" flag.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there"
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag."
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Probably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood."
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I mean, they are actual, documented gang members.
"The executioners"
"The Banditos"
"The Wayside Whites"
These guys are our cops.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle."
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops."
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These flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most."
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thin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor."
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂"
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The blue line represented all the children and animals killed by "mistake"...
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!"
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"..."
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I was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood."
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Some of those that work forces…
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment."
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It wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…"
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now."
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Fucking good lool
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?"
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So who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?
It's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool"
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works."
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Im sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways."
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Thin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols."
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It’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people."
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The flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops."
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Just put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place."
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out."
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Doesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin"
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I am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it.
But I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group.
OK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me"
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It offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me"
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What about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give."
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Not surprised
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?"
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Somehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last "complaint".
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised"
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Somehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last "complaint".
It was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..
Edit: My initial response was just cynical..
But...
He said employees and staff are still allowed to have the "Thin Blue Line Flag" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\"."
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If the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles."
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The chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.
I saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.
This is why various police agencies have banded that flag.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed."
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag."
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There’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine"
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Unbelievable I live in Los Angeles and there’s many other flags that are flown displayed throughout the year and year around the Armenian Genocide all Central America flags sports flags lifestyle flags flags everywhere and that’s “their right” right? but the Los Angeles Police Department displays a flag with a blue line people complain unreal man!
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine",
">\n\nThere’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one."
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Are any of those other flags symbols of violent fascism? Because if so, those flags should also be removed.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine",
">\n\nThere’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one.",
">\n\nUnbelievable I live in Los Angeles and there’s many other flags that are flown displayed throughout the year and year around the Armenian Genocide all Central America flags sports flags lifestyle flags flags everywhere and that’s “their right” right? but the Los Angeles Police Department displays a flag with a blue line people complain unreal man!"
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine",
">\n\nThere’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one.",
">\n\nUnbelievable I live in Los Angeles and there’s many other flags that are flown displayed throughout the year and year around the Armenian Genocide all Central America flags sports flags lifestyle flags flags everywhere and that’s “their right” right? but the Los Angeles Police Department displays a flag with a blue line people complain unreal man!",
">\n\nAre any of those other flags symbols of violent fascism? Because if so, those flags should also be removed."
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You mean the "hey don't forget about us!" flag?
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine",
">\n\nThere’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one.",
">\n\nUnbelievable I live in Los Angeles and there’s many other flags that are flown displayed throughout the year and year around the Armenian Genocide all Central America flags sports flags lifestyle flags flags everywhere and that’s “their right” right? but the Los Angeles Police Department displays a flag with a blue line people complain unreal man!",
">\n\nAre any of those other flags symbols of violent fascism? Because if so, those flags should also be removed.",
">\n\nFinally"
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So many people hate the police but they also want to ban guns. Why?
Wouldn’t you want the right to own any firearm you want that way you can protect yourself from these people you claim are a militia?
Ban guns so the only people that have them are the government. Guess who is the government? That’s right, law enforcement. You just disarmed yourself so you can’t protect yourself from the people you just let have the only guns. Smart.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine",
">\n\nThere’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one.",
">\n\nUnbelievable I live in Los Angeles and there’s many other flags that are flown displayed throughout the year and year around the Armenian Genocide all Central America flags sports flags lifestyle flags flags everywhere and that’s “their right” right? but the Los Angeles Police Department displays a flag with a blue line people complain unreal man!",
">\n\nAre any of those other flags symbols of violent fascism? Because if so, those flags should also be removed.",
">\n\nFinally",
">\n\nYou mean the \"hey don't forget about us!\" flag?"
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Ok but what happens when we defend ourselves from the police … 💀
Cop killers don’t live a long life
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine",
">\n\nThere’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one.",
">\n\nUnbelievable I live in Los Angeles and there’s many other flags that are flown displayed throughout the year and year around the Armenian Genocide all Central America flags sports flags lifestyle flags flags everywhere and that’s “their right” right? but the Los Angeles Police Department displays a flag with a blue line people complain unreal man!",
">\n\nAre any of those other flags symbols of violent fascism? Because if so, those flags should also be removed.",
">\n\nFinally",
">\n\nYou mean the \"hey don't forget about us!\" flag?",
">\n\nSo many people hate the police but they also want to ban guns. Why? \nWouldn’t you want the right to own any firearm you want that way you can protect yourself from these people you claim are a militia? \nBan guns so the only people that have them are the government. Guess who is the government? That’s right, law enforcement. You just disarmed yourself so you can’t protect yourself from the people you just let have the only guns. Smart."
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Guys I think enforcing the law is bad can I have upvotes?
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine",
">\n\nThere’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one.",
">\n\nUnbelievable I live in Los Angeles and there’s many other flags that are flown displayed throughout the year and year around the Armenian Genocide all Central America flags sports flags lifestyle flags flags everywhere and that’s “their right” right? but the Los Angeles Police Department displays a flag with a blue line people complain unreal man!",
">\n\nAre any of those other flags symbols of violent fascism? Because if so, those flags should also be removed.",
">\n\nFinally",
">\n\nYou mean the \"hey don't forget about us!\" flag?",
">\n\nSo many people hate the police but they also want to ban guns. Why? \nWouldn’t you want the right to own any firearm you want that way you can protect yourself from these people you claim are a militia? \nBan guns so the only people that have them are the government. Guess who is the government? That’s right, law enforcement. You just disarmed yourself so you can’t protect yourself from the people you just let have the only guns. Smart.",
">\n\nOk but what happens when we defend ourselves from the police … 💀 \nCop killers don’t live a long life"
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If they enforced it, then you might have a point. But that flag is a signal that the cops flying it will not enforce the law on each other, only civilians.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine",
">\n\nThere’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one.",
">\n\nUnbelievable I live in Los Angeles and there’s many other flags that are flown displayed throughout the year and year around the Armenian Genocide all Central America flags sports flags lifestyle flags flags everywhere and that’s “their right” right? but the Los Angeles Police Department displays a flag with a blue line people complain unreal man!",
">\n\nAre any of those other flags symbols of violent fascism? Because if so, those flags should also be removed.",
">\n\nFinally",
">\n\nYou mean the \"hey don't forget about us!\" flag?",
">\n\nSo many people hate the police but they also want to ban guns. Why? \nWouldn’t you want the right to own any firearm you want that way you can protect yourself from these people you claim are a militia? \nBan guns so the only people that have them are the government. Guess who is the government? That’s right, law enforcement. You just disarmed yourself so you can’t protect yourself from the people you just let have the only guns. Smart.",
">\n\nOk but what happens when we defend ourselves from the police … 💀 \nCop killers don’t live a long life",
">\n\nGuys I think enforcing the law is bad can I have upvotes?"
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Genuinely confused by the top comments.
I don’t care if you’re pro- or anti-cop. But I’m just going to assume the actual police are pro-cop every single time.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine",
">\n\nThere’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one.",
">\n\nUnbelievable I live in Los Angeles and there’s many other flags that are flown displayed throughout the year and year around the Armenian Genocide all Central America flags sports flags lifestyle flags flags everywhere and that’s “their right” right? but the Los Angeles Police Department displays a flag with a blue line people complain unreal man!",
">\n\nAre any of those other flags symbols of violent fascism? Because if so, those flags should also be removed.",
">\n\nFinally",
">\n\nYou mean the \"hey don't forget about us!\" flag?",
">\n\nSo many people hate the police but they also want to ban guns. Why? \nWouldn’t you want the right to own any firearm you want that way you can protect yourself from these people you claim are a militia? \nBan guns so the only people that have them are the government. Guess who is the government? That’s right, law enforcement. You just disarmed yourself so you can’t protect yourself from the people you just let have the only guns. Smart.",
">\n\nOk but what happens when we defend ourselves from the police … 💀 \nCop killers don’t live a long life",
">\n\nGuys I think enforcing the law is bad can I have upvotes?",
">\n\nIf they enforced it, then you might have a point. But that flag is a signal that the cops flying it will not enforce the law on each other, only civilians."
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Imagine being offended that the police support themselves lol.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine",
">\n\nThere’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one.",
">\n\nUnbelievable I live in Los Angeles and there’s many other flags that are flown displayed throughout the year and year around the Armenian Genocide all Central America flags sports flags lifestyle flags flags everywhere and that’s “their right” right? but the Los Angeles Police Department displays a flag with a blue line people complain unreal man!",
">\n\nAre any of those other flags symbols of violent fascism? Because if so, those flags should also be removed.",
">\n\nFinally",
">\n\nYou mean the \"hey don't forget about us!\" flag?",
">\n\nSo many people hate the police but they also want to ban guns. Why? \nWouldn’t you want the right to own any firearm you want that way you can protect yourself from these people you claim are a militia? \nBan guns so the only people that have them are the government. Guess who is the government? That’s right, law enforcement. You just disarmed yourself so you can’t protect yourself from the people you just let have the only guns. Smart.",
">\n\nOk but what happens when we defend ourselves from the police … 💀 \nCop killers don’t live a long life",
">\n\nGuys I think enforcing the law is bad can I have upvotes?",
">\n\nIf they enforced it, then you might have a point. But that flag is a signal that the cops flying it will not enforce the law on each other, only civilians.",
">\n\nGenuinely confused by the top comments. \nI don’t care if you’re pro- or anti-cop. But I’m just going to assume the actual police are pro-cop every single time."
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Aren’t the cops supposed to be supporting their communities? Cops covering for each other when they break the law isn’t something to brag about.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine",
">\n\nThere’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one.",
">\n\nUnbelievable I live in Los Angeles and there’s many other flags that are flown displayed throughout the year and year around the Armenian Genocide all Central America flags sports flags lifestyle flags flags everywhere and that’s “their right” right? but the Los Angeles Police Department displays a flag with a blue line people complain unreal man!",
">\n\nAre any of those other flags symbols of violent fascism? Because if so, those flags should also be removed.",
">\n\nFinally",
">\n\nYou mean the \"hey don't forget about us!\" flag?",
">\n\nSo many people hate the police but they also want to ban guns. Why? \nWouldn’t you want the right to own any firearm you want that way you can protect yourself from these people you claim are a militia? \nBan guns so the only people that have them are the government. Guess who is the government? That’s right, law enforcement. You just disarmed yourself so you can’t protect yourself from the people you just let have the only guns. Smart.",
">\n\nOk but what happens when we defend ourselves from the police … 💀 \nCop killers don’t live a long life",
">\n\nGuys I think enforcing the law is bad can I have upvotes?",
">\n\nIf they enforced it, then you might have a point. But that flag is a signal that the cops flying it will not enforce the law on each other, only civilians.",
">\n\nGenuinely confused by the top comments. \nI don’t care if you’re pro- or anti-cop. But I’m just going to assume the actual police are pro-cop every single time.",
">\n\nImagine being offended that the police support themselves lol."
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Everyone is offended about something this day and age. Why is that. ? Fill me in.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine",
">\n\nThere’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one.",
">\n\nUnbelievable I live in Los Angeles and there’s many other flags that are flown displayed throughout the year and year around the Armenian Genocide all Central America flags sports flags lifestyle flags flags everywhere and that’s “their right” right? but the Los Angeles Police Department displays a flag with a blue line people complain unreal man!",
">\n\nAre any of those other flags symbols of violent fascism? Because if so, those flags should also be removed.",
">\n\nFinally",
">\n\nYou mean the \"hey don't forget about us!\" flag?",
">\n\nSo many people hate the police but they also want to ban guns. Why? \nWouldn’t you want the right to own any firearm you want that way you can protect yourself from these people you claim are a militia? \nBan guns so the only people that have them are the government. Guess who is the government? That’s right, law enforcement. You just disarmed yourself so you can’t protect yourself from the people you just let have the only guns. Smart.",
">\n\nOk but what happens when we defend ourselves from the police … 💀 \nCop killers don’t live a long life",
">\n\nGuys I think enforcing the law is bad can I have upvotes?",
">\n\nIf they enforced it, then you might have a point. But that flag is a signal that the cops flying it will not enforce the law on each other, only civilians.",
">\n\nGenuinely confused by the top comments. \nI don’t care if you’re pro- or anti-cop. But I’m just going to assume the actual police are pro-cop every single time.",
">\n\nImagine being offended that the police support themselves lol.",
">\n\nAren’t the cops supposed to be supporting their communities? Cops covering for each other when they break the law isn’t something to brag about."
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COPs are offended by people who are offended by cops murdering people for offended the cops.
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine",
">\n\nThere’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one.",
">\n\nUnbelievable I live in Los Angeles and there’s many other flags that are flown displayed throughout the year and year around the Armenian Genocide all Central America flags sports flags lifestyle flags flags everywhere and that’s “their right” right? but the Los Angeles Police Department displays a flag with a blue line people complain unreal man!",
">\n\nAre any of those other flags symbols of violent fascism? Because if so, those flags should also be removed.",
">\n\nFinally",
">\n\nYou mean the \"hey don't forget about us!\" flag?",
">\n\nSo many people hate the police but they also want to ban guns. Why? \nWouldn’t you want the right to own any firearm you want that way you can protect yourself from these people you claim are a militia? \nBan guns so the only people that have them are the government. Guess who is the government? That’s right, law enforcement. You just disarmed yourself so you can’t protect yourself from the people you just let have the only guns. Smart.",
">\n\nOk but what happens when we defend ourselves from the police … 💀 \nCop killers don’t live a long life",
">\n\nGuys I think enforcing the law is bad can I have upvotes?",
">\n\nIf they enforced it, then you might have a point. But that flag is a signal that the cops flying it will not enforce the law on each other, only civilians.",
">\n\nGenuinely confused by the top comments. \nI don’t care if you’re pro- or anti-cop. But I’m just going to assume the actual police are pro-cop every single time.",
">\n\nImagine being offended that the police support themselves lol.",
">\n\nAren’t the cops supposed to be supporting their communities? Cops covering for each other when they break the law isn’t something to brag about.",
">\n\nEveryone is offended about something this day and age. Why is that. ? Fill me in."
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that flag looks cool af
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine",
">\n\nThere’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one.",
">\n\nUnbelievable I live in Los Angeles and there’s many other flags that are flown displayed throughout the year and year around the Armenian Genocide all Central America flags sports flags lifestyle flags flags everywhere and that’s “their right” right? but the Los Angeles Police Department displays a flag with a blue line people complain unreal man!",
">\n\nAre any of those other flags symbols of violent fascism? Because if so, those flags should also be removed.",
">\n\nFinally",
">\n\nYou mean the \"hey don't forget about us!\" flag?",
">\n\nSo many people hate the police but they also want to ban guns. Why? \nWouldn’t you want the right to own any firearm you want that way you can protect yourself from these people you claim are a militia? \nBan guns so the only people that have them are the government. Guess who is the government? That’s right, law enforcement. You just disarmed yourself so you can’t protect yourself from the people you just let have the only guns. Smart.",
">\n\nOk but what happens when we defend ourselves from the police … 💀 \nCop killers don’t live a long life",
">\n\nGuys I think enforcing the law is bad can I have upvotes?",
">\n\nIf they enforced it, then you might have a point. But that flag is a signal that the cops flying it will not enforce the law on each other, only civilians.",
">\n\nGenuinely confused by the top comments. \nI don’t care if you’re pro- or anti-cop. But I’m just going to assume the actual police are pro-cop every single time.",
">\n\nImagine being offended that the police support themselves lol.",
">\n\nAren’t the cops supposed to be supporting their communities? Cops covering for each other when they break the law isn’t something to brag about.",
">\n\nEveryone is offended about something this day and age. Why is that. ? Fill me in.",
">\n\nCOPs are offended by people who are offended by cops murdering people for offended the cops."
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine",
">\n\nThere’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one.",
">\n\nUnbelievable I live in Los Angeles and there’s many other flags that are flown displayed throughout the year and year around the Armenian Genocide all Central America flags sports flags lifestyle flags flags everywhere and that’s “their right” right? but the Los Angeles Police Department displays a flag with a blue line people complain unreal man!",
">\n\nAre any of those other flags symbols of violent fascism? Because if so, those flags should also be removed.",
">\n\nFinally",
">\n\nYou mean the \"hey don't forget about us!\" flag?",
">\n\nSo many people hate the police but they also want to ban guns. Why? \nWouldn’t you want the right to own any firearm you want that way you can protect yourself from these people you claim are a militia? \nBan guns so the only people that have them are the government. Guess who is the government? That’s right, law enforcement. You just disarmed yourself so you can’t protect yourself from the people you just let have the only guns. Smart.",
">\n\nOk but what happens when we defend ourselves from the police … 💀 \nCop killers don’t live a long life",
">\n\nGuys I think enforcing the law is bad can I have upvotes?",
">\n\nIf they enforced it, then you might have a point. But that flag is a signal that the cops flying it will not enforce the law on each other, only civilians.",
">\n\nGenuinely confused by the top comments. \nI don’t care if you’re pro- or anti-cop. But I’m just going to assume the actual police are pro-cop every single time.",
">\n\nImagine being offended that the police support themselves lol.",
">\n\nAren’t the cops supposed to be supporting their communities? Cops covering for each other when they break the law isn’t something to brag about.",
">\n\nEveryone is offended about something this day and age. Why is that. ? Fill me in.",
">\n\nCOPs are offended by people who are offended by cops murdering people for offended the cops.",
">\n\nthat flag looks cool af"
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That's so stupid. I hope it doesn't make other departments take it down
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine",
">\n\nThere’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one.",
">\n\nUnbelievable I live in Los Angeles and there’s many other flags that are flown displayed throughout the year and year around the Armenian Genocide all Central America flags sports flags lifestyle flags flags everywhere and that’s “their right” right? but the Los Angeles Police Department displays a flag with a blue line people complain unreal man!",
">\n\nAre any of those other flags symbols of violent fascism? Because if so, those flags should also be removed.",
">\n\nFinally",
">\n\nYou mean the \"hey don't forget about us!\" flag?",
">\n\nSo many people hate the police but they also want to ban guns. Why? \nWouldn’t you want the right to own any firearm you want that way you can protect yourself from these people you claim are a militia? \nBan guns so the only people that have them are the government. Guess who is the government? That’s right, law enforcement. You just disarmed yourself so you can’t protect yourself from the people you just let have the only guns. Smart.",
">\n\nOk but what happens when we defend ourselves from the police … 💀 \nCop killers don’t live a long life",
">\n\nGuys I think enforcing the law is bad can I have upvotes?",
">\n\nIf they enforced it, then you might have a point. But that flag is a signal that the cops flying it will not enforce the law on each other, only civilians.",
">\n\nGenuinely confused by the top comments. \nI don’t care if you’re pro- or anti-cop. But I’m just going to assume the actual police are pro-cop every single time.",
">\n\nImagine being offended that the police support themselves lol.",
">\n\nAren’t the cops supposed to be supporting their communities? Cops covering for each other when they break the law isn’t something to brag about.",
">\n\nEveryone is offended about something this day and age. Why is that. ? Fill me in.",
">\n\nCOPs are offended by people who are offended by cops murdering people for offended the cops.",
">\n\nthat flag looks cool af",
">\n\nPussys"
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine",
">\n\nThere’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one.",
">\n\nUnbelievable I live in Los Angeles and there’s many other flags that are flown displayed throughout the year and year around the Armenian Genocide all Central America flags sports flags lifestyle flags flags everywhere and that’s “their right” right? but the Los Angeles Police Department displays a flag with a blue line people complain unreal man!",
">\n\nAre any of those other flags symbols of violent fascism? Because if so, those flags should also be removed.",
">\n\nFinally",
">\n\nYou mean the \"hey don't forget about us!\" flag?",
">\n\nSo many people hate the police but they also want to ban guns. Why? \nWouldn’t you want the right to own any firearm you want that way you can protect yourself from these people you claim are a militia? \nBan guns so the only people that have them are the government. Guess who is the government? That’s right, law enforcement. You just disarmed yourself so you can’t protect yourself from the people you just let have the only guns. Smart.",
">\n\nOk but what happens when we defend ourselves from the police … 💀 \nCop killers don’t live a long life",
">\n\nGuys I think enforcing the law is bad can I have upvotes?",
">\n\nIf they enforced it, then you might have a point. But that flag is a signal that the cops flying it will not enforce the law on each other, only civilians.",
">\n\nGenuinely confused by the top comments. \nI don’t care if you’re pro- or anti-cop. But I’m just going to assume the actual police are pro-cop every single time.",
">\n\nImagine being offended that the police support themselves lol.",
">\n\nAren’t the cops supposed to be supporting their communities? Cops covering for each other when they break the law isn’t something to brag about.",
">\n\nEveryone is offended about something this day and age. Why is that. ? Fill me in.",
">\n\nCOPs are offended by people who are offended by cops murdering people for offended the cops.",
">\n\nthat flag looks cool af",
">\n\nPussys",
">\n\nThat's so stupid. I hope it doesn't make other departments take it down"
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine",
">\n\nThere’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one.",
">\n\nUnbelievable I live in Los Angeles and there’s many other flags that are flown displayed throughout the year and year around the Armenian Genocide all Central America flags sports flags lifestyle flags flags everywhere and that’s “their right” right? but the Los Angeles Police Department displays a flag with a blue line people complain unreal man!",
">\n\nAre any of those other flags symbols of violent fascism? Because if so, those flags should also be removed.",
">\n\nFinally",
">\n\nYou mean the \"hey don't forget about us!\" flag?",
">\n\nSo many people hate the police but they also want to ban guns. Why? \nWouldn’t you want the right to own any firearm you want that way you can protect yourself from these people you claim are a militia? \nBan guns so the only people that have them are the government. Guess who is the government? That’s right, law enforcement. You just disarmed yourself so you can’t protect yourself from the people you just let have the only guns. Smart.",
">\n\nOk but what happens when we defend ourselves from the police … 💀 \nCop killers don’t live a long life",
">\n\nGuys I think enforcing the law is bad can I have upvotes?",
">\n\nIf they enforced it, then you might have a point. But that flag is a signal that the cops flying it will not enforce the law on each other, only civilians.",
">\n\nGenuinely confused by the top comments. \nI don’t care if you’re pro- or anti-cop. But I’m just going to assume the actual police are pro-cop every single time.",
">\n\nImagine being offended that the police support themselves lol.",
">\n\nAren’t the cops supposed to be supporting their communities? Cops covering for each other when they break the law isn’t something to brag about.",
">\n\nEveryone is offended about something this day and age. Why is that. ? Fill me in.",
">\n\nCOPs are offended by people who are offended by cops murdering people for offended the cops.",
">\n\nthat flag looks cool af",
">\n\nPussys",
">\n\nThat's so stupid. I hope it doesn't make other departments take it down",
">\n\nNever should be up. It’s pure propaganda."
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine",
">\n\nThere’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one.",
">\n\nUnbelievable I live in Los Angeles and there’s many other flags that are flown displayed throughout the year and year around the Armenian Genocide all Central America flags sports flags lifestyle flags flags everywhere and that’s “their right” right? but the Los Angeles Police Department displays a flag with a blue line people complain unreal man!",
">\n\nAre any of those other flags symbols of violent fascism? Because if so, those flags should also be removed.",
">\n\nFinally",
">\n\nYou mean the \"hey don't forget about us!\" flag?",
">\n\nSo many people hate the police but they also want to ban guns. Why? \nWouldn’t you want the right to own any firearm you want that way you can protect yourself from these people you claim are a militia? \nBan guns so the only people that have them are the government. Guess who is the government? That’s right, law enforcement. You just disarmed yourself so you can’t protect yourself from the people you just let have the only guns. Smart.",
">\n\nOk but what happens when we defend ourselves from the police … 💀 \nCop killers don’t live a long life",
">\n\nGuys I think enforcing the law is bad can I have upvotes?",
">\n\nIf they enforced it, then you might have a point. But that flag is a signal that the cops flying it will not enforce the law on each other, only civilians.",
">\n\nGenuinely confused by the top comments. \nI don’t care if you’re pro- or anti-cop. But I’m just going to assume the actual police are pro-cop every single time.",
">\n\nImagine being offended that the police support themselves lol.",
">\n\nAren’t the cops supposed to be supporting their communities? Cops covering for each other when they break the law isn’t something to brag about.",
">\n\nEveryone is offended about something this day and age. Why is that. ? Fill me in.",
">\n\nCOPs are offended by people who are offended by cops murdering people for offended the cops.",
">\n\nthat flag looks cool af",
">\n\nPussys",
">\n\nThat's so stupid. I hope it doesn't make other departments take it down",
">\n\nNever should be up. It’s pure propaganda.",
">\n\nBS. Freedom of speech."
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"The guy who filed the complaint: \"Wait a minute, that worked?!?\"",
">\n\nprobably getting pulled over and searched at this moment",
">\n\nA moment of silence for his dog…",
">\n\nNo, no…that’s the ATF",
">\n\nThat's the cops...",
">\n\nWhat's the difference?\nPolice shoots your dog, while ATF shoots your gun",
">\n\nATF will definitely shoot your dog. They'll shoot your dog while trespassing and dressed like commandos.",
">\n\nAnd will set off all the C4 I stuck up my arse",
">\n\nOne of the smaller towns near me added it to their patch design. I would have thought the regular flag was sufficient.",
">\n\nFinnish Police doesn't even have Finnish flag in their uniform.\nI think one of the qualifications to become police here is to know what country you are working in without having to cheat the answer.\nAlso, as someone pointed out: They are not military, so having a flag on their uniforms wouldn't really have a purpouse.",
">\n\nHeh, in Estonia they have a flag on their uniform.",
">\n\nThey do in most countries and even some states it's completely normal",
">\n\nIt may be normal now, but it's a sign of militarization of the police. Andy Griffith didn't have a flag on his uniform.",
">\n\nit‘s just meant to represent the country they work for, so people recognize the police.\nThey also wear the Austrain flag or rather the Austrain emblem on their uniform here, and they are far from militarised",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is not a real flag. It’s a political opinion flag. No government agency should fly it.",
">\n\nWhere I work the cop cars (SUVs) have it in a decal on the side. It’s like a tattered version with the town name in the design.",
">\n\nPlease inform the ACLU chapter of whatever state you live in.",
">\n\nThank you for that advice. I had not even thought of that. I will definitely reach out to them.",
">\n\nIf you need to fly a different flag than our own, then you have a different purpose than we do.",
">\n\nYou may know this, but in the Marines (and i assume all branches are the same in this) we study the US Flag Code and any alterations to color like that are prohibited. It's not law of course, but you know.",
">\n\nJust to clarify. It is not law, but it is code for any government facility. Specifically federal facilities.",
">\n\nThat sounds right. Again, jarhead here you got what i remembered lol",
">\n\nNo worries Marine. Army coming in to save you from yourself as usual LOL!",
">\n\nAlways welcomed help just don't try to fuck me or anything",
">\n\nNo worries, You left the Navy on the boat. I sure as hell won't be stopping to pick them up.",
">\n\nThis series of comments makes me smile.",
">\n\nSpoken like an airforce guy, sitting in the corner, watching the army and marine guys going at it while he's just above the fray.",
">\n\nCable was out",
">\n\nWhy do the thin blue line flags omit the color red and replace it with black?",
">\n\nI was curious about that also. I found this: “The thin blue line flag features a black and white image of the American flag with the horizontal stripe beneath the field of white stars on the black background. The stars represent the citizenry who stand for justice and order. The darkness represents chaos and anarchy, and according to some, a memorial to the deaths of those law officers who have perished in the line of duty.”",
">\n\nThe \"thin blue line\" was originally a euphemism for how easy it is for any police officer to become corrupt. The cops decided they didn't like that and changed the narrative so they could pretend to be a fifth branch of the armed services, defending the nation against the evil of its own citizenry.\nIt's a load of fucking bullshit, and they know it.",
">\n\nNever saw it used like that.\nIt has always been an \"us against them\" signifier. Cops painting themselves as the few people standing for a law and order society, protecting it from chaos and evil.\nIt's fascist bullshit, and a bunch of dickhead alpha male wolf/sheep posturing too.\nThe origin was a reporter writing of a battle:\n\n\nDuring the Crimean War, the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment stood against the Russian cavalry at the battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854. \nTheir commander Colin Campbell, 1st Baron Clyde, had told them, “There is no retreat from here, men. You must die where you stand.” And stand they did. Their line, two deep rather than the usual four, drove off the cavalry within minutes. Watching the action was a correspondent for The Times, William H Russell, who described the Highlanders as a “thin red streak, tipped with a line of steel”.",
">\n\nThat may have been how it started. But now, it represents the “blue wall of silence.” And its most common usage involves “crossing the blue line.” Which infers that the police brotherhood comes above all else. And betraying that bond is considered “crossing.” \nWhich, in itself, is just unbelievably arrogant and abusive. They took a job who’s purpose is to literally serve and protect their citizenry at all costs. And they openly brag about how they absolutely won’t do that.",
">\n\n“literally serve and protect their citizens at all costs”… You’ve been watching too much TV. Do you think a police officer is obliged to lay down his life (“at all costs”) to save yours?",
">\n\nYes. They literally recite an oath when they become police. In reality. Not on TV.",
">\n\nGood. All police forces should be banned from using this disingenuous symbol",
">\n\nNothing disingenuous about this flag. It's textbook fascist imagery, being used by fascists to promote fascism.",
">\n\nWhile you make a great point, it is indeed disingenuous. To the people it is designed to manipulate it is a symbol of community support because to support the hypothetical \"good cop\" is a good thing. However, to the police themselves, it is a symbol of having each others interests in mind when a critical light is shined on them, a way to cover their wrongdoings.",
">\n\nI think you are giving them all too much credit, and that it is more simple. Anyone who uses that flag is pining for a white supremacist police state, or at a minimum wouldn’t object should one take hold. They are fascists, wether they are smart enough to understand that or not. Even if they believe it’s about community or keeping officers safe, the vast majority of these people are still bigot fascists signaling to other bigot fascists that they too are bigot fascists.",
">\n\nIn this instance both these interpretations are valid.",
">\n\nI guess it’s an illustration of the “thin blue line” separating “us” from “them”.",
">\n\nAny alteration of the United States of America flag is an abomination and should not be flown at a place of civil service.",
">\n\nJust to be clear, you support people who may burn or or step on the flag, right ?",
">\n\nThey're specifically not talking about private citizens.",
">\n\nI hope so. This thread seems to be on the level but there are a lot of references to \"the flag\" without a lot or nuance. As evidenced by my downvotes.",
">\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\n\nI agree, but the Chief is unironically talking about some other \"extremist groups\" and not the one that the flag actually represents, his own police force that didn't need to hijack it and still have it represent those same \"values\".",
">\n\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views.\"\nYou mean, those within the LAPD? Those groups?",
">\n\nI mean yeah isn't the whole idea of blue lives matter in and of itself undemocratic, racist, and bigoted based on the fact that it was born as a counterprotest to a movement trying to call attention to a disproportionate use of deadly force/denial of Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights against a particular race?",
">\n\nFor everyone who thinks a modified flag shows support for their \"X\" cause of choice, doesn't understand the purpose of a flag. It's not meant to be about you or your beliefs. It's a flag for the entire country and everyone in it. You can express your position about a flag in various ways, its orientation, position etc ( including burning it ) . But to change the flag itself only demonstrates a sheer lack of respect for your fellow citizens and it displays your absolute narcissism.",
">\n\nMay as well hang a swastika from the police station. But that might be a little too on the nose.",
">\n\nThey should all be removed, and consider gang affiliated. 🖕🏻The blue line, especially Officer Dylan R. Kahley and Corporal, Shawn M. Fye of the Clearfield Borough Police Department…You’re both pieces of shit, and I hope you cruiser runs out of gas on the train tracks with the both of you tyrant fucks inside.",
">\n\nThe police station in my town that I go by every day has the more neutered version of two large black bars sandwiching a blue one. The fact these fuckers are allowed to put any flag up other than the US, state and city flags is beyond me. They are supposed to serve the community, not flack for their own political causes.",
">\n\nHow about they quit desecrating the American flag with these cheap little spinoffs?\nNo group violates the US Flag Code more than conservatives.",
">\n\nNothing oniony about this other than the command let them put it up in the first place.",
">\n\nThe oniony part is that they took it down after a complaint. Pigs flying the pig flag isn't oniony at all",
">\n\nDesecration of the flag!",
">\n\nI wish people actually read the flag code, they'd understand why this flag is offensive and why the way the NFL presents the flag is wrong, but instead we get a lot of false patriotism and nationalism with zero regard to how to treat the flag.",
">\n\nThe only part of flag code people care about is standing for the pledge of allegiance. Everything else seems optional to them.",
">\n\nAnd even then they only care when they see a black person or a liberal they already dont like not doing it",
">\n\nWhile we’re at it - no more articles of clothing made of US Flags",
">\n\nI'm on board with this. I'm not even particularly patriotic. It's just ugly as hell on clothes.",
">\n\nI remember seeing a grown ass cop slamming the face of a skinny, handcuffed, black 14yo onto the top of the trunk of a patrol car and I’ve seen the LAPD as a state-sanctioned gang ever since. I don’t hate cops in general, but I believe law enforcement in major cities are dangerous and not there to serve and protect.",
">\n\nIt's not just big cities. Uvalde's police budget was 40% of the entire town's budget, and they even had their own SWAT Team",
">\n\nI feel that cops get too much hate on reddit. However if I lived there and knew that much of my tax money was going to police and saw how they handled that situation (lack of handling that is) I would be furious for so many reasons",
">\n\nFlag desecration. Should be straightforward to report and remove any instance of this esp from govt/city agencies. Like others though I'm shocked it worked!",
">\n\nThe complainant said, \"Wait a minute, that worked?\"",
">\n\nI'm pleasantly surprised at the diplomacy and candor of the Chief's reply:\n\n\n\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to symbolize their undemocratic, racist, and bigoted views. Flags serve as powerful symbols with specific meanings. The \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" to me presents the honor, valor, dedication, and sacrifice of law enforcement to protect our communities. Tragically, that view is not universally held and others have been able to persuade the public it symbolizes racist, bigoted and oppressive values,\" Moore said in a statement.",
">\n\nThin blue line means organised crime. Good to have it removed.",
">\n\nAnd with them defiling the American flag, they replace the symbol of Freedom with support of a police state. They really don’t even try to hide their fascism anymore.",
">\n\nThe thin blue line stands for cops covering for other cops when they do something wrong. I can’t see why anyone who actually knows what it stands for would support that.\nI prefer cops not be criminals…",
">\n\nThe state of Arizona issues vanity plates with the thin blue line flag. I've complained, to no avail. Even if you don't connect it to the extreme Right, it's still a desecration of the US flag. Flag etiquette says you may not display a flag unless it's colors and pattern are the official ones.",
">\n\nYes, changing the colors is a violation of US Flag Code. For a group that tends to fetishize all things \"patriotic\", they sure do desecrate the flag often.",
">\n\nWe have actual wraps on our police cars….\nA video of said blue line wrap",
">\n\nOh barf",
">\n\nI know…",
">\n\nStop defacing our American flag 🇺🇸",
">\n\nFrom the article:\n\"\"It’s unfortunate that extremist groups have hijacked the use of the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\"\" \nErrrr, the police *are* the extremist group. Why is this post on \"nottheonion\"? This is a small nugget of a good thing.",
">\n\nThe surprising thing is that the complaint worked.",
">\n\nPolice flying their own separate version of the American flag is intense.\nIdc if they have some slogan or flag about the yadda yadda the cop talked about in the article, there are more useful things to critique, but their own version of the US flag? \nWow, that's flagrant.",
">\n\nGood. Fuck that racist shit.",
">\n\nTo me, it's not only racist, but also fascist.",
">\n\nlol",
">\n\nIf only there was a flag that meant freedom and justice for all",
">\n\nGovernment agencies should not misuse the flag, nor should they be flying any flag other than that of the people they serve.",
">\n\nI like it as reported on the bird app by Hend Amry @ LibyaLiberty \n“Area militias assert control over their land holdings, flagrantly sidelining the symbol of national identity and replacing it with a sectarian flag.”\nAnd that was back in ‘20",
">\n\nFirst time I ever heard reference to the Thin Blue Line, believe it or not, was the second south park game. There's a quest having to do with cocaine-addled cops called \"A Thin White Line.\" Surprised I'd never known of this before that point.",
">\n\nFake flag NEEDS to be removed! There is ONLY 1 US Flag",
">\n\nThe LAPD complied with a civilian's complaint?\nI'm fucking shocked.",
">\n\nNot as shocked as the civilian who asked for it. The coroner says his death probably wasn't related to the tazing.",
">\n\nI assume people are part of a cult when I see it now",
">\n\nThe thin blue line flag is a violation of the flag code. Furthermore, any time you alter a national flag to suit your own political purpose, that is showing disrespect for the flag.",
">\n\nFlag of a police state.",
">\n\nGood. It's unamerican.",
">\n\nThis first of all alters and disrespects the flag so many of these \"Real Americans\" claim to love. that, and the fact that it is increasingly being used by extremist groups as a justification for racism rings major alarm bells when I see that crap. No self-respecting Police Department should fly it. It alienates the communities they need to be building bonds with rather than pushing away. I'm all for supporting service-members, but things desperately need to change. If you need another flag than our own, you're representing something else.",
">\n\nTo me it just signals that they put each other ahead of the law, and that they think they're above it.",
">\n\nThe police brutality flag is not a great look these days.",
">\n\nGood, because it is a desecrating the US Flag.",
">\n\nIt's a desecrated American Flag. Whoever put it up should face discipline.",
">\n\nNazi flag is a subversion of the national flag. There are no blue lives, only jobs.",
">\n\nIt's a bastardization of the American flag and actually violates the informal code.",
">\n\nACAB",
">\n\nIt's a dumb fucking flag so good",
">\n\nAny modification is a disgrace to the American flag. Fuck this thin blue line shit, firefighters are cool but I don’t agree with their version either, or any modified flag. Especially the half confederate, half American flag, that’s a disgrace to two flags. One of those flags is flown by traitors tho, what other war has there been where they continued to fly the losing sides flag?",
">\n\nCan we just talk about Rampart?\nWait. \nFor a fun listen about the LA Sheriffs Department, which isn’t exactly the LAPD, try A Tradition of Violence",
">\n\nThat symbol has been taken over by white supremacists.",
">\n\nCops, white supremacists.... What's the difference?",
">\n\nThis doesn't belong on this sub.\nThe Blue Line flag is a divisive one born as a rebuke of any protests against police abuse.\nIt is an reinforcement of the idea that police are a separate third class of people, literally in its design: \"citizens,\" police, and \"criminals.\"\nIt's an elevation and worship of police to a status they do not deserve and have not earned.\nThis sub is a \"this shit can't be made up\"-place, but it should just take a citizen complaint to have this flag removed. There should be no objection to wanting this modern-day brown shirt removed from government employees and locations. There should be no astonishment in this regard.",
">\n\nAnd generally criminals ARE citizens.",
">\n\nTIL from the comments that the thin blue line means something completely different in the US than in the UK. We have our own version of the flag here that police officers wear on their uniforms to show support for fellow police officers who have fallen in the line of duty.",
">\n\nI complained to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department to remove the blue line flag from their uniforms since they weren’t even wearing the actual American flag. I never got a response. That blue line flag sends one message and one message only: We only look out for ourselves and our safety. We do not serve you. \nEspecially when they have it in place of the American flag that represents the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve.",
">\n\nNgl Im amazed they were actually so cool with taking the flag down. The LAPD is notorious for being crazy shitheads but they actually gave a pretty responsible reply to the complaint",
">\n\nIt is a bastardization of the American Flag. The proper color for a flag of this design is red, white & blue.",
">\n\nWe the tax payers pay for their training, equipment, personal, everything!! So to have a flag that says it’s us vs them is a slap in the Gooch.",
">\n\nAlso in poor taste on MLK day, not that they'd care really.",
">\n\nThis article is from last week.",
">\n\nI pray every day that every cop loses their job",
">\n\nBut the Bandito tattoos and the police gangs stay!",
">\n\nYou know, maybe if they listened to all the complaints of them terrorizing and murdering people this well, people wouldn't see the dumbass flag as a symbol of extremists or whatever.",
">\n\nPolitics aside, the Thin Blue Line Flag is one of least original and frankly, kinda ugly flags out there",
">\n\nGood. It's not an American flag or a state flag. Might as well fly a Punisher flag. Or a \"We Tread On You\" flag.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nProbably shouldn’t be flashing gang symbols like that. It’s not very subtle.",
">\n\nI mean, they are actual, documented gang members. \n\"The executioners\"\n\"The Banditos\"\n\"The Wayside Whites\"\nThese guys are our cops.",
">\n\nGood. It’s a damn racist dog whistle to most.",
">\n\nThese flags appeared pretty quickly as the confederate flags fell out of favor.",
">\n\nthin blue line flags are a symbol of uniformed gang activity, and it’s also desecration of the flag. hoping this continues to happen across the country 🙂",
">\n\nHappy ACAB day!",
">\n\nThe blue line represented all the children and animals killed by \"mistake\"...",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\nI was in that station and stunned when I noticed that flag displayed behind the front desk. The only other civilians on my side of the glass were a Black mother and her two kids waiting patiently in their seats. Hard not to believe ACAB in that moment.",
">\n\nSome of those that work forces…",
">\n\nIt wasn’t until a couple years ago that I realized that “forces” is a plural noun there, and not a verb. It makes much more sense now.",
">\n\nSo when do their real gang colors go up?",
">\n\nFucking good lool",
">\n\nSo who still isn't convinced police departments are gangs?\nIt's the one union in America nobody dares try to antagonize too funny how that works.",
">\n\nGood. There shouldn’t be gang flags on government property anyways.",
">\n\nIm sure they were real huffy about taking down their fascist symbols.",
">\n\nThin blue line between what? Cops already do F-all anyway. Unless you're a dark skinned dude who needs to be beaten, a driver with a few hundred dollars too much, or a homeless woman would wants to get raped, they are pretty useless for helping people.",
">\n\nIt’s a shame LAPD don’t fly a flag for all the victims who were killed by cops.",
">\n\nThe flag shouldn’t have been there in the first place.",
">\n\nJust put a nazi flag already. The subtleties have run out.",
">\n\nthin blue skin",
">\n\nDoesn’t seem very “Oniony” to me",
">\n\nI am always a little amused at myself because I am OK with people burning the American flag. I don’t love it, I would never do it, but I recognize it as a statement of criticism and I support people’s right to do so. And I don’t get that upset about it. \nBut I am horrendously offended by the thin blue line flag, and any other flags with red lines or green lines or anything. At least when you are burning the flag, you are treating the country as a single entity. These alterations 2 flags Divider in Karvers up and try to co-opt American-ness for their own group. \nOK, you’re burning the flag, you are treating it as what it is: a symbol of our nation. When you try to make it a symbol of police, or firefighters, or when you try to turn it into artwork combined with Christian symbols or other political symbols, it really offends me",
">\n\nIt offends me so much because they take an oath to the Constitution, yet signal by flying that flag, that they put their departments ahead of the people they took an oath to serve. I was raised to believe your word means something and an oath is the highest form of your word that you can give.",
">\n\nWhat about smurf stickers that say blue lives matter?",
">\n\nNot surprised",
">\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".",
">\n\n\nSomehow ,in that city, I don't think this is gonna be the last \"complaint\".\n\nIt was just moved out of view of the normal public.. Likely to the break room..\nEdit: My initial response was just cynical..\nBut...\n\nHe said employees and staff are still allowed to have the \"Thin Blue Line Flag\" in their workspace, locker door, and personal vehicles.",
">\n\nIf the police in general would behave better and treat regular citizens better then it wouldn't have ever become an issue. But the problem is they treat us all like we're armed, dangerous, criminals even though if that was the case society itself would never have existed.",
">\n\nThe chief us correct about the flag being hijacked by extremist.\nI saw on television, a couple of those flags at the insurrection, in which the capital police were being attacked.\nThis is why various police agencies have banded that flag.",
">\n\nNo spine",
">\n\nThere’s one in the Santa Fe Springs one too. Get rid of that one.",
">\n\nUnbelievable I live in Los Angeles and there’s many other flags that are flown displayed throughout the year and year around the Armenian Genocide all Central America flags sports flags lifestyle flags flags everywhere and that’s “their right” right? but the Los Angeles Police Department displays a flag with a blue line people complain unreal man!",
">\n\nAre any of those other flags symbols of violent fascism? Because if so, those flags should also be removed.",
">\n\nFinally",
">\n\nYou mean the \"hey don't forget about us!\" flag?",
">\n\nSo many people hate the police but they also want to ban guns. Why? \nWouldn’t you want the right to own any firearm you want that way you can protect yourself from these people you claim are a militia? \nBan guns so the only people that have them are the government. Guess who is the government? That’s right, law enforcement. You just disarmed yourself so you can’t protect yourself from the people you just let have the only guns. Smart.",
">\n\nOk but what happens when we defend ourselves from the police … 💀 \nCop killers don’t live a long life",
">\n\nGuys I think enforcing the law is bad can I have upvotes?",
">\n\nIf they enforced it, then you might have a point. But that flag is a signal that the cops flying it will not enforce the law on each other, only civilians.",
">\n\nGenuinely confused by the top comments. \nI don’t care if you’re pro- or anti-cop. But I’m just going to assume the actual police are pro-cop every single time.",
">\n\nImagine being offended that the police support themselves lol.",
">\n\nAren’t the cops supposed to be supporting their communities? Cops covering for each other when they break the law isn’t something to brag about.",
">\n\nEveryone is offended about something this day and age. Why is that. ? Fill me in.",
">\n\nCOPs are offended by people who are offended by cops murdering people for offended the cops.",
">\n\nthat flag looks cool af",
">\n\nPussys",
">\n\nThat's so stupid. I hope it doesn't make other departments take it down",
">\n\nNever should be up. It’s pure propaganda.",
">\n\nBS. Freedom of speech.",
">\n\n\nFreedom of speech.\n\nOnly if you knew what that means."
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I can see this selling tens of copies!
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Nobody that would wear this needs to wear it.
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Somebody had this idea and somebody else told them it was good.
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The Mutalk ~~Microphone~~ Ballgag. Did I tell you to talk, slave?
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There are going to be a lot of kids going to bed with nightmares after walking in on dad during one of his gaming sessions.
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Right... Gaming.
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">\n\nNobody that would wear this needs to wear it.",
">\n\nSomebody had this idea and somebody else told them it was good.",
">\n\nThe Mutalk ~~Microphone~~ Ballgag. Did I tell you to talk, slave?",
">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of kids going to bed with nightmares after walking in on dad during one of his gaming sessions."
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Because wearing the glasses didn't make you look dorky enough.
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">\n\nNobody that would wear this needs to wear it.",
">\n\nSomebody had this idea and somebody else told them it was good.",
">\n\nThe Mutalk ~~Microphone~~ Ballgag. Did I tell you to talk, slave?",
">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of kids going to bed with nightmares after walking in on dad during one of his gaming sessions.",
">\n\nRight... Gaming."
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Why not just make it a full helmet at that point? Add air conditioning and you're good to go.
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">\n\nWell, let's not push it. (lol)",
">\n\nNobody that would wear this needs to wear it.",
">\n\nSomebody had this idea and somebody else told them it was good.",
">\n\nThe Mutalk ~~Microphone~~ Ballgag. Did I tell you to talk, slave?",
">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of kids going to bed with nightmares after walking in on dad during one of his gaming sessions.",
">\n\nRight... Gaming.",
">\n\nBecause wearing the glasses didn't make you look dorky enough."
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">\n\nWell, let's not push it. (lol)",
">\n\nNobody that would wear this needs to wear it.",
">\n\nSomebody had this idea and somebody else told them it was good.",
">\n\nThe Mutalk ~~Microphone~~ Ballgag. Did I tell you to talk, slave?",
">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of kids going to bed with nightmares after walking in on dad during one of his gaming sessions.",
">\n\nRight... Gaming.",
">\n\nBecause wearing the glasses didn't make you look dorky enough.",
">\n\nWhy not just make it a full helmet at that point? Add air conditioning and you're good to go."
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They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”
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I've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.
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[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”"
] |
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If you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.
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[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store."
] |
>
Yes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.
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[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame."
] |
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My boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes.
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[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient."
] |
>
Not for style tho, I'm a guy and just bought 2 'womens' hoodies because I want that witchy/gothic aesthetic, not monster energy or sons of anarchy macho bullshit
|
[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.",
">\n\nMy boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes."
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they fit better
Not if you have curves. And boobs. Oh dear god I get choked to death every time I wear a man’s (or even a unisex) shirt. My options are get choked and constantly tug at my shirt, or buy a much larger shirt and be super baggy and swimming in the shirt (which I will admit is comfy but damn it looks like pajamas).
And men’s pants aren’t an option at all because curves. I’ve never found a pair of men’s pants that fit (except sweats / pajama pants [and those have pockets so YES!!!]). I’ve tried to find men’s jeans or slacks, but nope.
I buy men’s hoodies and sweatpants/pajama pants, but that’s it.
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[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.",
">\n\nMy boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes.",
">\n\nNot for style tho, I'm a guy and just bought 2 'womens' hoodies because I want that witchy/gothic aesthetic, not monster energy or sons of anarchy macho bullshit"
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Then buy larger. If you don't fit into the size you buy, you didn't buy the right size.
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[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.",
">\n\nMy boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes.",
">\n\nNot for style tho, I'm a guy and just bought 2 'womens' hoodies because I want that witchy/gothic aesthetic, not monster energy or sons of anarchy macho bullshit",
">\n\n\nthey fit better\n\nNot if you have curves. And boobs. Oh dear god I get choked to death every time I wear a man’s (or even a unisex) shirt. My options are get choked and constantly tug at my shirt, or buy a much larger shirt and be super baggy and swimming in the shirt (which I will admit is comfy but damn it looks like pajamas).\nAnd men’s pants aren’t an option at all because curves. I’ve never found a pair of men’s pants that fit (except sweats / pajama pants [and those have pockets so YES!!!]). I’ve tried to find men’s jeans or slacks, but nope. \nI buy men’s hoodies and sweatpants/pajama pants, but that’s it."
] |
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Just buy larger?
Do you understand how curves work? Not all parts are the same size.
Lol I’d end up wearing pants that are 5 sizes too big at the waste, and a shirt that looks like a muumuu.
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[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.",
">\n\nMy boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes.",
">\n\nNot for style tho, I'm a guy and just bought 2 'womens' hoodies because I want that witchy/gothic aesthetic, not monster energy or sons of anarchy macho bullshit",
">\n\n\nthey fit better\n\nNot if you have curves. And boobs. Oh dear god I get choked to death every time I wear a man’s (or even a unisex) shirt. My options are get choked and constantly tug at my shirt, or buy a much larger shirt and be super baggy and swimming in the shirt (which I will admit is comfy but damn it looks like pajamas).\nAnd men’s pants aren’t an option at all because curves. I’ve never found a pair of men’s pants that fit (except sweats / pajama pants [and those have pockets so YES!!!]). I’ve tried to find men’s jeans or slacks, but nope. \nI buy men’s hoodies and sweatpants/pajama pants, but that’s it.",
">\n\nThen buy larger. If you don't fit into the size you buy, you didn't buy the right size."
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Men have this issue too. Overweight guys have to buy from stores where the clothes fit their body type and they still get all the benefits of pockets, price, reliability etc. Just buy from there.
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"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.",
">\n\nMy boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes.",
">\n\nNot for style tho, I'm a guy and just bought 2 'womens' hoodies because I want that witchy/gothic aesthetic, not monster energy or sons of anarchy macho bullshit",
">\n\n\nthey fit better\n\nNot if you have curves. And boobs. Oh dear god I get choked to death every time I wear a man’s (or even a unisex) shirt. My options are get choked and constantly tug at my shirt, or buy a much larger shirt and be super baggy and swimming in the shirt (which I will admit is comfy but damn it looks like pajamas).\nAnd men’s pants aren’t an option at all because curves. I’ve never found a pair of men’s pants that fit (except sweats / pajama pants [and those have pockets so YES!!!]). I’ve tried to find men’s jeans or slacks, but nope. \nI buy men’s hoodies and sweatpants/pajama pants, but that’s it.",
">\n\nThen buy larger. If you don't fit into the size you buy, you didn't buy the right size.",
">\n\nJust buy larger?\nDo you understand how curves work? Not all parts are the same size.\nLol I’d end up wearing pants that are 5 sizes too big at the waste, and a shirt that looks like a muumuu."
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Dude, the issue isn’t finding bigger men’s clothing. It’s finding clothing that fits curves.
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[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.",
">\n\nMy boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes.",
">\n\nNot for style tho, I'm a guy and just bought 2 'womens' hoodies because I want that witchy/gothic aesthetic, not monster energy or sons of anarchy macho bullshit",
">\n\n\nthey fit better\n\nNot if you have curves. And boobs. Oh dear god I get choked to death every time I wear a man’s (or even a unisex) shirt. My options are get choked and constantly tug at my shirt, or buy a much larger shirt and be super baggy and swimming in the shirt (which I will admit is comfy but damn it looks like pajamas).\nAnd men’s pants aren’t an option at all because curves. I’ve never found a pair of men’s pants that fit (except sweats / pajama pants [and those have pockets so YES!!!]). I’ve tried to find men’s jeans or slacks, but nope. \nI buy men’s hoodies and sweatpants/pajama pants, but that’s it.",
">\n\nThen buy larger. If you don't fit into the size you buy, you didn't buy the right size.",
">\n\nJust buy larger?\nDo you understand how curves work? Not all parts are the same size.\nLol I’d end up wearing pants that are 5 sizes too big at the waste, and a shirt that looks like a muumuu.",
">\n\nMen have this issue too. Overweight guys have to buy from stores where the clothes fit their body type and they still get all the benefits of pockets, price, reliability etc. Just buy from there."
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So men dont have "curves"?
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"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.",
">\n\nMy boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes.",
">\n\nNot for style tho, I'm a guy and just bought 2 'womens' hoodies because I want that witchy/gothic aesthetic, not monster energy or sons of anarchy macho bullshit",
">\n\n\nthey fit better\n\nNot if you have curves. And boobs. Oh dear god I get choked to death every time I wear a man’s (or even a unisex) shirt. My options are get choked and constantly tug at my shirt, or buy a much larger shirt and be super baggy and swimming in the shirt (which I will admit is comfy but damn it looks like pajamas).\nAnd men’s pants aren’t an option at all because curves. I’ve never found a pair of men’s pants that fit (except sweats / pajama pants [and those have pockets so YES!!!]). I’ve tried to find men’s jeans or slacks, but nope. \nI buy men’s hoodies and sweatpants/pajama pants, but that’s it.",
">\n\nThen buy larger. If you don't fit into the size you buy, you didn't buy the right size.",
">\n\nJust buy larger?\nDo you understand how curves work? Not all parts are the same size.\nLol I’d end up wearing pants that are 5 sizes too big at the waste, and a shirt that looks like a muumuu.",
">\n\nMen have this issue too. Overweight guys have to buy from stores where the clothes fit their body type and they still get all the benefits of pockets, price, reliability etc. Just buy from there.",
">\n\nDude, the issue isn’t finding bigger men’s clothing. It’s finding clothing that fits curves."
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Some men certainly do. I never said they didn’t.
I said men’s clothing isn’t accommodating of curves.
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[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.",
">\n\nMy boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes.",
">\n\nNot for style tho, I'm a guy and just bought 2 'womens' hoodies because I want that witchy/gothic aesthetic, not monster energy or sons of anarchy macho bullshit",
">\n\n\nthey fit better\n\nNot if you have curves. And boobs. Oh dear god I get choked to death every time I wear a man’s (or even a unisex) shirt. My options are get choked and constantly tug at my shirt, or buy a much larger shirt and be super baggy and swimming in the shirt (which I will admit is comfy but damn it looks like pajamas).\nAnd men’s pants aren’t an option at all because curves. I’ve never found a pair of men’s pants that fit (except sweats / pajama pants [and those have pockets so YES!!!]). I’ve tried to find men’s jeans or slacks, but nope. \nI buy men’s hoodies and sweatpants/pajama pants, but that’s it.",
">\n\nThen buy larger. If you don't fit into the size you buy, you didn't buy the right size.",
">\n\nJust buy larger?\nDo you understand how curves work? Not all parts are the same size.\nLol I’d end up wearing pants that are 5 sizes too big at the waste, and a shirt that looks like a muumuu.",
">\n\nMen have this issue too. Overweight guys have to buy from stores where the clothes fit their body type and they still get all the benefits of pockets, price, reliability etc. Just buy from there.",
">\n\nDude, the issue isn’t finding bigger men’s clothing. It’s finding clothing that fits curves.",
">\n\nSo men dont have \"curves\"?"
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There is no reason why women should buy more men's clothes. Everyone should wear whatever clothes they feel comfortable and confident in, regardless of traditional gender norms. It's important for people to be able to express themselves through their clothing and personal style.
|
[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.",
">\n\nMy boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes.",
">\n\nNot for style tho, I'm a guy and just bought 2 'womens' hoodies because I want that witchy/gothic aesthetic, not monster energy or sons of anarchy macho bullshit",
">\n\n\nthey fit better\n\nNot if you have curves. And boobs. Oh dear god I get choked to death every time I wear a man’s (or even a unisex) shirt. My options are get choked and constantly tug at my shirt, or buy a much larger shirt and be super baggy and swimming in the shirt (which I will admit is comfy but damn it looks like pajamas).\nAnd men’s pants aren’t an option at all because curves. I’ve never found a pair of men’s pants that fit (except sweats / pajama pants [and those have pockets so YES!!!]). I’ve tried to find men’s jeans or slacks, but nope. \nI buy men’s hoodies and sweatpants/pajama pants, but that’s it.",
">\n\nThen buy larger. If you don't fit into the size you buy, you didn't buy the right size.",
">\n\nJust buy larger?\nDo you understand how curves work? Not all parts are the same size.\nLol I’d end up wearing pants that are 5 sizes too big at the waste, and a shirt that looks like a muumuu.",
">\n\nMen have this issue too. Overweight guys have to buy from stores where the clothes fit their body type and they still get all the benefits of pockets, price, reliability etc. Just buy from there.",
">\n\nDude, the issue isn’t finding bigger men’s clothing. It’s finding clothing that fits curves.",
">\n\nSo men dont have \"curves\"?",
">\n\nSome men certainly do. I never said they didn’t.\nI said men’s clothing isn’t accommodating of curves."
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Since my hips (not just ass) are wider than men’s, those pants won’t fit me right. To have a right fit in the waist, the leg part would be way to loose
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[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.",
">\n\nMy boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes.",
">\n\nNot for style tho, I'm a guy and just bought 2 'womens' hoodies because I want that witchy/gothic aesthetic, not monster energy or sons of anarchy macho bullshit",
">\n\n\nthey fit better\n\nNot if you have curves. And boobs. Oh dear god I get choked to death every time I wear a man’s (or even a unisex) shirt. My options are get choked and constantly tug at my shirt, or buy a much larger shirt and be super baggy and swimming in the shirt (which I will admit is comfy but damn it looks like pajamas).\nAnd men’s pants aren’t an option at all because curves. I’ve never found a pair of men’s pants that fit (except sweats / pajama pants [and those have pockets so YES!!!]). I’ve tried to find men’s jeans or slacks, but nope. \nI buy men’s hoodies and sweatpants/pajama pants, but that’s it.",
">\n\nThen buy larger. If you don't fit into the size you buy, you didn't buy the right size.",
">\n\nJust buy larger?\nDo you understand how curves work? Not all parts are the same size.\nLol I’d end up wearing pants that are 5 sizes too big at the waste, and a shirt that looks like a muumuu.",
">\n\nMen have this issue too. Overweight guys have to buy from stores where the clothes fit their body type and they still get all the benefits of pockets, price, reliability etc. Just buy from there.",
">\n\nDude, the issue isn’t finding bigger men’s clothing. It’s finding clothing that fits curves.",
">\n\nSo men dont have \"curves\"?",
">\n\nSome men certainly do. I never said they didn’t.\nI said men’s clothing isn’t accommodating of curves.",
">\n\nThere is no reason why women should buy more men's clothes. Everyone should wear whatever clothes they feel comfortable and confident in, regardless of traditional gender norms. It's important for people to be able to express themselves through their clothing and personal style."
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Cargo shorts are ugly, though
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[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.",
">\n\nMy boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes.",
">\n\nNot for style tho, I'm a guy and just bought 2 'womens' hoodies because I want that witchy/gothic aesthetic, not monster energy or sons of anarchy macho bullshit",
">\n\n\nthey fit better\n\nNot if you have curves. And boobs. Oh dear god I get choked to death every time I wear a man’s (or even a unisex) shirt. My options are get choked and constantly tug at my shirt, or buy a much larger shirt and be super baggy and swimming in the shirt (which I will admit is comfy but damn it looks like pajamas).\nAnd men’s pants aren’t an option at all because curves. I’ve never found a pair of men’s pants that fit (except sweats / pajama pants [and those have pockets so YES!!!]). I’ve tried to find men’s jeans or slacks, but nope. \nI buy men’s hoodies and sweatpants/pajama pants, but that’s it.",
">\n\nThen buy larger. If you don't fit into the size you buy, you didn't buy the right size.",
">\n\nJust buy larger?\nDo you understand how curves work? Not all parts are the same size.\nLol I’d end up wearing pants that are 5 sizes too big at the waste, and a shirt that looks like a muumuu.",
">\n\nMen have this issue too. Overweight guys have to buy from stores where the clothes fit their body type and they still get all the benefits of pockets, price, reliability etc. Just buy from there.",
">\n\nDude, the issue isn’t finding bigger men’s clothing. It’s finding clothing that fits curves.",
">\n\nSo men dont have \"curves\"?",
">\n\nSome men certainly do. I never said they didn’t.\nI said men’s clothing isn’t accommodating of curves.",
">\n\nThere is no reason why women should buy more men's clothes. Everyone should wear whatever clothes they feel comfortable and confident in, regardless of traditional gender norms. It's important for people to be able to express themselves through their clothing and personal style.",
">\n\nSince my hips (not just ass) are wider than men’s, those pants won’t fit me right. To have a right fit in the waist, the leg part would be way to loose"
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Convenience and cost efficiency > aesthetics
Not everyone thinks cargos are ugly. I'm not saying just buy cargos, mens skinny jeans have usable pockets.
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[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.",
">\n\nMy boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes.",
">\n\nNot for style tho, I'm a guy and just bought 2 'womens' hoodies because I want that witchy/gothic aesthetic, not monster energy or sons of anarchy macho bullshit",
">\n\n\nthey fit better\n\nNot if you have curves. And boobs. Oh dear god I get choked to death every time I wear a man’s (or even a unisex) shirt. My options are get choked and constantly tug at my shirt, or buy a much larger shirt and be super baggy and swimming in the shirt (which I will admit is comfy but damn it looks like pajamas).\nAnd men’s pants aren’t an option at all because curves. I’ve never found a pair of men’s pants that fit (except sweats / pajama pants [and those have pockets so YES!!!]). I’ve tried to find men’s jeans or slacks, but nope. \nI buy men’s hoodies and sweatpants/pajama pants, but that’s it.",
">\n\nThen buy larger. If you don't fit into the size you buy, you didn't buy the right size.",
">\n\nJust buy larger?\nDo you understand how curves work? Not all parts are the same size.\nLol I’d end up wearing pants that are 5 sizes too big at the waste, and a shirt that looks like a muumuu.",
">\n\nMen have this issue too. Overweight guys have to buy from stores where the clothes fit their body type and they still get all the benefits of pockets, price, reliability etc. Just buy from there.",
">\n\nDude, the issue isn’t finding bigger men’s clothing. It’s finding clothing that fits curves.",
">\n\nSo men dont have \"curves\"?",
">\n\nSome men certainly do. I never said they didn’t.\nI said men’s clothing isn’t accommodating of curves.",
">\n\nThere is no reason why women should buy more men's clothes. Everyone should wear whatever clothes they feel comfortable and confident in, regardless of traditional gender norms. It's important for people to be able to express themselves through their clothing and personal style.",
">\n\nSince my hips (not just ass) are wider than men’s, those pants won’t fit me right. To have a right fit in the waist, the leg part would be way to loose",
">\n\nCargo shorts are ugly, though"
] |
>
Plus this removes cash flow from an industry that makes choices for it's consumers in a way they vocally decry.
Vote with your wallet ladies. It works.
|
[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.",
">\n\nMy boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes.",
">\n\nNot for style tho, I'm a guy and just bought 2 'womens' hoodies because I want that witchy/gothic aesthetic, not monster energy or sons of anarchy macho bullshit",
">\n\n\nthey fit better\n\nNot if you have curves. And boobs. Oh dear god I get choked to death every time I wear a man’s (or even a unisex) shirt. My options are get choked and constantly tug at my shirt, or buy a much larger shirt and be super baggy and swimming in the shirt (which I will admit is comfy but damn it looks like pajamas).\nAnd men’s pants aren’t an option at all because curves. I’ve never found a pair of men’s pants that fit (except sweats / pajama pants [and those have pockets so YES!!!]). I’ve tried to find men’s jeans or slacks, but nope. \nI buy men’s hoodies and sweatpants/pajama pants, but that’s it.",
">\n\nThen buy larger. If you don't fit into the size you buy, you didn't buy the right size.",
">\n\nJust buy larger?\nDo you understand how curves work? Not all parts are the same size.\nLol I’d end up wearing pants that are 5 sizes too big at the waste, and a shirt that looks like a muumuu.",
">\n\nMen have this issue too. Overweight guys have to buy from stores where the clothes fit their body type and they still get all the benefits of pockets, price, reliability etc. Just buy from there.",
">\n\nDude, the issue isn’t finding bigger men’s clothing. It’s finding clothing that fits curves.",
">\n\nSo men dont have \"curves\"?",
">\n\nSome men certainly do. I never said they didn’t.\nI said men’s clothing isn’t accommodating of curves.",
">\n\nThere is no reason why women should buy more men's clothes. Everyone should wear whatever clothes they feel comfortable and confident in, regardless of traditional gender norms. It's important for people to be able to express themselves through their clothing and personal style.",
">\n\nSince my hips (not just ass) are wider than men’s, those pants won’t fit me right. To have a right fit in the waist, the leg part would be way to loose",
">\n\nCargo shorts are ugly, though",
">\n\nConvenience and cost efficiency > aesthetics\nNot everyone thinks cargos are ugly. I'm not saying just buy cargos, mens skinny jeans have usable pockets."
] |
>
Ok sometimes- I have a pair of men’s cargo joggers and they are amazing, BUT- there’s no room for having hips/boobs without having to wear a men’s XL without having the legs be super long or the shirt being large enough to host a wedding inside. I’m a short woman so buying men’s clothes esp in larger sizes- made for 5’10”+ does not make for a good fit
|
[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.",
">\n\nMy boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes.",
">\n\nNot for style tho, I'm a guy and just bought 2 'womens' hoodies because I want that witchy/gothic aesthetic, not monster energy or sons of anarchy macho bullshit",
">\n\n\nthey fit better\n\nNot if you have curves. And boobs. Oh dear god I get choked to death every time I wear a man’s (or even a unisex) shirt. My options are get choked and constantly tug at my shirt, or buy a much larger shirt and be super baggy and swimming in the shirt (which I will admit is comfy but damn it looks like pajamas).\nAnd men’s pants aren’t an option at all because curves. I’ve never found a pair of men’s pants that fit (except sweats / pajama pants [and those have pockets so YES!!!]). I’ve tried to find men’s jeans or slacks, but nope. \nI buy men’s hoodies and sweatpants/pajama pants, but that’s it.",
">\n\nThen buy larger. If you don't fit into the size you buy, you didn't buy the right size.",
">\n\nJust buy larger?\nDo you understand how curves work? Not all parts are the same size.\nLol I’d end up wearing pants that are 5 sizes too big at the waste, and a shirt that looks like a muumuu.",
">\n\nMen have this issue too. Overweight guys have to buy from stores where the clothes fit their body type and they still get all the benefits of pockets, price, reliability etc. Just buy from there.",
">\n\nDude, the issue isn’t finding bigger men’s clothing. It’s finding clothing that fits curves.",
">\n\nSo men dont have \"curves\"?",
">\n\nSome men certainly do. I never said they didn’t.\nI said men’s clothing isn’t accommodating of curves.",
">\n\nThere is no reason why women should buy more men's clothes. Everyone should wear whatever clothes they feel comfortable and confident in, regardless of traditional gender norms. It's important for people to be able to express themselves through their clothing and personal style.",
">\n\nSince my hips (not just ass) are wider than men’s, those pants won’t fit me right. To have a right fit in the waist, the leg part would be way to loose",
">\n\nCargo shorts are ugly, though",
">\n\nConvenience and cost efficiency > aesthetics\nNot everyone thinks cargos are ugly. I'm not saying just buy cargos, mens skinny jeans have usable pockets.",
">\n\nPlus this removes cash flow from an industry that makes choices for it's consumers in a way they vocally decry.\nVote with your wallet ladies. It works."
] |
>
I am too short to wear men's clothing.
A better idea would be for women's clothing to be made in a similar style to men's except flattering to women and in sizes women can actually wear comfortably. Also, pockets on women's clothes would be easy additions, especially considering how many fake pockets we get, but they want us buying handbags. If women started buying men's clothes then men's clothes would lose their pockets.
|
[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.",
">\n\nMy boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes.",
">\n\nNot for style tho, I'm a guy and just bought 2 'womens' hoodies because I want that witchy/gothic aesthetic, not monster energy or sons of anarchy macho bullshit",
">\n\n\nthey fit better\n\nNot if you have curves. And boobs. Oh dear god I get choked to death every time I wear a man’s (or even a unisex) shirt. My options are get choked and constantly tug at my shirt, or buy a much larger shirt and be super baggy and swimming in the shirt (which I will admit is comfy but damn it looks like pajamas).\nAnd men’s pants aren’t an option at all because curves. I’ve never found a pair of men’s pants that fit (except sweats / pajama pants [and those have pockets so YES!!!]). I’ve tried to find men’s jeans or slacks, but nope. \nI buy men’s hoodies and sweatpants/pajama pants, but that’s it.",
">\n\nThen buy larger. If you don't fit into the size you buy, you didn't buy the right size.",
">\n\nJust buy larger?\nDo you understand how curves work? Not all parts are the same size.\nLol I’d end up wearing pants that are 5 sizes too big at the waste, and a shirt that looks like a muumuu.",
">\n\nMen have this issue too. Overweight guys have to buy from stores where the clothes fit their body type and they still get all the benefits of pockets, price, reliability etc. Just buy from there.",
">\n\nDude, the issue isn’t finding bigger men’s clothing. It’s finding clothing that fits curves.",
">\n\nSo men dont have \"curves\"?",
">\n\nSome men certainly do. I never said they didn’t.\nI said men’s clothing isn’t accommodating of curves.",
">\n\nThere is no reason why women should buy more men's clothes. Everyone should wear whatever clothes they feel comfortable and confident in, regardless of traditional gender norms. It's important for people to be able to express themselves through their clothing and personal style.",
">\n\nSince my hips (not just ass) are wider than men’s, those pants won’t fit me right. To have a right fit in the waist, the leg part would be way to loose",
">\n\nCargo shorts are ugly, though",
">\n\nConvenience and cost efficiency > aesthetics\nNot everyone thinks cargos are ugly. I'm not saying just buy cargos, mens skinny jeans have usable pockets.",
">\n\nPlus this removes cash flow from an industry that makes choices for it's consumers in a way they vocally decry.\nVote with your wallet ladies. It works.",
">\n\nOk sometimes- I have a pair of men’s cargo joggers and they are amazing, BUT- there’s no room for having hips/boobs without having to wear a men’s XL without having the legs be super long or the shirt being large enough to host a wedding inside. I’m a short woman so buying men’s clothes esp in larger sizes- made for 5’10”+ does not make for a good fit"
] |
>
If my tits fit in men's shirts with the ratio to shoulders then I'd love to
|
[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.",
">\n\nMy boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes.",
">\n\nNot for style tho, I'm a guy and just bought 2 'womens' hoodies because I want that witchy/gothic aesthetic, not monster energy or sons of anarchy macho bullshit",
">\n\n\nthey fit better\n\nNot if you have curves. And boobs. Oh dear god I get choked to death every time I wear a man’s (or even a unisex) shirt. My options are get choked and constantly tug at my shirt, or buy a much larger shirt and be super baggy and swimming in the shirt (which I will admit is comfy but damn it looks like pajamas).\nAnd men’s pants aren’t an option at all because curves. I’ve never found a pair of men’s pants that fit (except sweats / pajama pants [and those have pockets so YES!!!]). I’ve tried to find men’s jeans or slacks, but nope. \nI buy men’s hoodies and sweatpants/pajama pants, but that’s it.",
">\n\nThen buy larger. If you don't fit into the size you buy, you didn't buy the right size.",
">\n\nJust buy larger?\nDo you understand how curves work? Not all parts are the same size.\nLol I’d end up wearing pants that are 5 sizes too big at the waste, and a shirt that looks like a muumuu.",
">\n\nMen have this issue too. Overweight guys have to buy from stores where the clothes fit their body type and they still get all the benefits of pockets, price, reliability etc. Just buy from there.",
">\n\nDude, the issue isn’t finding bigger men’s clothing. It’s finding clothing that fits curves.",
">\n\nSo men dont have \"curves\"?",
">\n\nSome men certainly do. I never said they didn’t.\nI said men’s clothing isn’t accommodating of curves.",
">\n\nThere is no reason why women should buy more men's clothes. Everyone should wear whatever clothes they feel comfortable and confident in, regardless of traditional gender norms. It's important for people to be able to express themselves through their clothing and personal style.",
">\n\nSince my hips (not just ass) are wider than men’s, those pants won’t fit me right. To have a right fit in the waist, the leg part would be way to loose",
">\n\nCargo shorts are ugly, though",
">\n\nConvenience and cost efficiency > aesthetics\nNot everyone thinks cargos are ugly. I'm not saying just buy cargos, mens skinny jeans have usable pockets.",
">\n\nPlus this removes cash flow from an industry that makes choices for it's consumers in a way they vocally decry.\nVote with your wallet ladies. It works.",
">\n\nOk sometimes- I have a pair of men’s cargo joggers and they are amazing, BUT- there’s no room for having hips/boobs without having to wear a men’s XL without having the legs be super long or the shirt being large enough to host a wedding inside. I’m a short woman so buying men’s clothes esp in larger sizes- made for 5’10”+ does not make for a good fit",
">\n\nI am too short to wear men's clothing.\nA better idea would be for women's clothing to be made in a similar style to men's except flattering to women and in sizes women can actually wear comfortably. Also, pockets on women's clothes would be easy additions, especially considering how many fake pockets we get, but they want us buying handbags. If women started buying men's clothes then men's clothes would lose their pockets."
] |
>
They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”
|
[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.",
">\n\nMy boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes.",
">\n\nNot for style tho, I'm a guy and just bought 2 'womens' hoodies because I want that witchy/gothic aesthetic, not monster energy or sons of anarchy macho bullshit",
">\n\n\nthey fit better\n\nNot if you have curves. And boobs. Oh dear god I get choked to death every time I wear a man’s (or even a unisex) shirt. My options are get choked and constantly tug at my shirt, or buy a much larger shirt and be super baggy and swimming in the shirt (which I will admit is comfy but damn it looks like pajamas).\nAnd men’s pants aren’t an option at all because curves. I’ve never found a pair of men’s pants that fit (except sweats / pajama pants [and those have pockets so YES!!!]). I’ve tried to find men’s jeans or slacks, but nope. \nI buy men’s hoodies and sweatpants/pajama pants, but that’s it.",
">\n\nThen buy larger. If you don't fit into the size you buy, you didn't buy the right size.",
">\n\nJust buy larger?\nDo you understand how curves work? Not all parts are the same size.\nLol I’d end up wearing pants that are 5 sizes too big at the waste, and a shirt that looks like a muumuu.",
">\n\nMen have this issue too. Overweight guys have to buy from stores where the clothes fit their body type and they still get all the benefits of pockets, price, reliability etc. Just buy from there.",
">\n\nDude, the issue isn’t finding bigger men’s clothing. It’s finding clothing that fits curves.",
">\n\nSo men dont have \"curves\"?",
">\n\nSome men certainly do. I never said they didn’t.\nI said men’s clothing isn’t accommodating of curves.",
">\n\nThere is no reason why women should buy more men's clothes. Everyone should wear whatever clothes they feel comfortable and confident in, regardless of traditional gender norms. It's important for people to be able to express themselves through their clothing and personal style.",
">\n\nSince my hips (not just ass) are wider than men’s, those pants won’t fit me right. To have a right fit in the waist, the leg part would be way to loose",
">\n\nCargo shorts are ugly, though",
">\n\nConvenience and cost efficiency > aesthetics\nNot everyone thinks cargos are ugly. I'm not saying just buy cargos, mens skinny jeans have usable pockets.",
">\n\nPlus this removes cash flow from an industry that makes choices for it's consumers in a way they vocally decry.\nVote with your wallet ladies. It works.",
">\n\nOk sometimes- I have a pair of men’s cargo joggers and they are amazing, BUT- there’s no room for having hips/boobs without having to wear a men’s XL without having the legs be super long or the shirt being large enough to host a wedding inside. I’m a short woman so buying men’s clothes esp in larger sizes- made for 5’10”+ does not make for a good fit",
">\n\nI am too short to wear men's clothing.\nA better idea would be for women's clothing to be made in a similar style to men's except flattering to women and in sizes women can actually wear comfortably. Also, pockets on women's clothes would be easy additions, especially considering how many fake pockets we get, but they want us buying handbags. If women started buying men's clothes then men's clothes would lose their pockets.",
">\n\nIf my tits fit in men's shirts with the ratio to shoulders then I'd love to"
] |
>
I've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.
|
[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.",
">\n\nMy boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes.",
">\n\nNot for style tho, I'm a guy and just bought 2 'womens' hoodies because I want that witchy/gothic aesthetic, not monster energy or sons of anarchy macho bullshit",
">\n\n\nthey fit better\n\nNot if you have curves. And boobs. Oh dear god I get choked to death every time I wear a man’s (or even a unisex) shirt. My options are get choked and constantly tug at my shirt, or buy a much larger shirt and be super baggy and swimming in the shirt (which I will admit is comfy but damn it looks like pajamas).\nAnd men’s pants aren’t an option at all because curves. I’ve never found a pair of men’s pants that fit (except sweats / pajama pants [and those have pockets so YES!!!]). I’ve tried to find men’s jeans or slacks, but nope. \nI buy men’s hoodies and sweatpants/pajama pants, but that’s it.",
">\n\nThen buy larger. If you don't fit into the size you buy, you didn't buy the right size.",
">\n\nJust buy larger?\nDo you understand how curves work? Not all parts are the same size.\nLol I’d end up wearing pants that are 5 sizes too big at the waste, and a shirt that looks like a muumuu.",
">\n\nMen have this issue too. Overweight guys have to buy from stores where the clothes fit their body type and they still get all the benefits of pockets, price, reliability etc. Just buy from there.",
">\n\nDude, the issue isn’t finding bigger men’s clothing. It’s finding clothing that fits curves.",
">\n\nSo men dont have \"curves\"?",
">\n\nSome men certainly do. I never said they didn’t.\nI said men’s clothing isn’t accommodating of curves.",
">\n\nThere is no reason why women should buy more men's clothes. Everyone should wear whatever clothes they feel comfortable and confident in, regardless of traditional gender norms. It's important for people to be able to express themselves through their clothing and personal style.",
">\n\nSince my hips (not just ass) are wider than men’s, those pants won’t fit me right. To have a right fit in the waist, the leg part would be way to loose",
">\n\nCargo shorts are ugly, though",
">\n\nConvenience and cost efficiency > aesthetics\nNot everyone thinks cargos are ugly. I'm not saying just buy cargos, mens skinny jeans have usable pockets.",
">\n\nPlus this removes cash flow from an industry that makes choices for it's consumers in a way they vocally decry.\nVote with your wallet ladies. It works.",
">\n\nOk sometimes- I have a pair of men’s cargo joggers and they are amazing, BUT- there’s no room for having hips/boobs without having to wear a men’s XL without having the legs be super long or the shirt being large enough to host a wedding inside. I’m a short woman so buying men’s clothes esp in larger sizes- made for 5’10”+ does not make for a good fit",
">\n\nI am too short to wear men's clothing.\nA better idea would be for women's clothing to be made in a similar style to men's except flattering to women and in sizes women can actually wear comfortably. Also, pockets on women's clothes would be easy additions, especially considering how many fake pockets we get, but they want us buying handbags. If women started buying men's clothes then men's clothes would lose their pockets.",
">\n\nIf my tits fit in men's shirts with the ratio to shoulders then I'd love to",
">\n\nThey absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”"
] |
>
If you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.
|
[
"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.",
">\n\nMy boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes.",
">\n\nNot for style tho, I'm a guy and just bought 2 'womens' hoodies because I want that witchy/gothic aesthetic, not monster energy or sons of anarchy macho bullshit",
">\n\n\nthey fit better\n\nNot if you have curves. And boobs. Oh dear god I get choked to death every time I wear a man’s (or even a unisex) shirt. My options are get choked and constantly tug at my shirt, or buy a much larger shirt and be super baggy and swimming in the shirt (which I will admit is comfy but damn it looks like pajamas).\nAnd men’s pants aren’t an option at all because curves. I’ve never found a pair of men’s pants that fit (except sweats / pajama pants [and those have pockets so YES!!!]). I’ve tried to find men’s jeans or slacks, but nope. \nI buy men’s hoodies and sweatpants/pajama pants, but that’s it.",
">\n\nThen buy larger. If you don't fit into the size you buy, you didn't buy the right size.",
">\n\nJust buy larger?\nDo you understand how curves work? Not all parts are the same size.\nLol I’d end up wearing pants that are 5 sizes too big at the waste, and a shirt that looks like a muumuu.",
">\n\nMen have this issue too. Overweight guys have to buy from stores where the clothes fit their body type and they still get all the benefits of pockets, price, reliability etc. Just buy from there.",
">\n\nDude, the issue isn’t finding bigger men’s clothing. It’s finding clothing that fits curves.",
">\n\nSo men dont have \"curves\"?",
">\n\nSome men certainly do. I never said they didn’t.\nI said men’s clothing isn’t accommodating of curves.",
">\n\nThere is no reason why women should buy more men's clothes. Everyone should wear whatever clothes they feel comfortable and confident in, regardless of traditional gender norms. It's important for people to be able to express themselves through their clothing and personal style.",
">\n\nSince my hips (not just ass) are wider than men’s, those pants won’t fit me right. To have a right fit in the waist, the leg part would be way to loose",
">\n\nCargo shorts are ugly, though",
">\n\nConvenience and cost efficiency > aesthetics\nNot everyone thinks cargos are ugly. I'm not saying just buy cargos, mens skinny jeans have usable pockets.",
">\n\nPlus this removes cash flow from an industry that makes choices for it's consumers in a way they vocally decry.\nVote with your wallet ladies. It works.",
">\n\nOk sometimes- I have a pair of men’s cargo joggers and they are amazing, BUT- there’s no room for having hips/boobs without having to wear a men’s XL without having the legs be super long or the shirt being large enough to host a wedding inside. I’m a short woman so buying men’s clothes esp in larger sizes- made for 5’10”+ does not make for a good fit",
">\n\nI am too short to wear men's clothing.\nA better idea would be for women's clothing to be made in a similar style to men's except flattering to women and in sizes women can actually wear comfortably. Also, pockets on women's clothes would be easy additions, especially considering how many fake pockets we get, but they want us buying handbags. If women started buying men's clothes then men's clothes would lose their pockets.",
">\n\nIf my tits fit in men's shirts with the ratio to shoulders then I'd love to",
">\n\nThey absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store."
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Yes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.
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"They absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame.",
">\n\nYes, I only buy baggy. The few times I've bought clothes that fit my body, they've still matched the correct measurements per store. Baggy is the most convenient.",
">\n\nMy boobs don’t fit into men’s shirts. They get squished and look like pancakes.",
">\n\nNot for style tho, I'm a guy and just bought 2 'womens' hoodies because I want that witchy/gothic aesthetic, not monster energy or sons of anarchy macho bullshit",
">\n\n\nthey fit better\n\nNot if you have curves. And boobs. Oh dear god I get choked to death every time I wear a man’s (or even a unisex) shirt. My options are get choked and constantly tug at my shirt, or buy a much larger shirt and be super baggy and swimming in the shirt (which I will admit is comfy but damn it looks like pajamas).\nAnd men’s pants aren’t an option at all because curves. I’ve never found a pair of men’s pants that fit (except sweats / pajama pants [and those have pockets so YES!!!]). I’ve tried to find men’s jeans or slacks, but nope. \nI buy men’s hoodies and sweatpants/pajama pants, but that’s it.",
">\n\nThen buy larger. If you don't fit into the size you buy, you didn't buy the right size.",
">\n\nJust buy larger?\nDo you understand how curves work? Not all parts are the same size.\nLol I’d end up wearing pants that are 5 sizes too big at the waste, and a shirt that looks like a muumuu.",
">\n\nMen have this issue too. Overweight guys have to buy from stores where the clothes fit their body type and they still get all the benefits of pockets, price, reliability etc. Just buy from there.",
">\n\nDude, the issue isn’t finding bigger men’s clothing. It’s finding clothing that fits curves.",
">\n\nSo men dont have \"curves\"?",
">\n\nSome men certainly do. I never said they didn’t.\nI said men’s clothing isn’t accommodating of curves.",
">\n\nThere is no reason why women should buy more men's clothes. Everyone should wear whatever clothes they feel comfortable and confident in, regardless of traditional gender norms. It's important for people to be able to express themselves through their clothing and personal style.",
">\n\nSince my hips (not just ass) are wider than men’s, those pants won’t fit me right. To have a right fit in the waist, the leg part would be way to loose",
">\n\nCargo shorts are ugly, though",
">\n\nConvenience and cost efficiency > aesthetics\nNot everyone thinks cargos are ugly. I'm not saying just buy cargos, mens skinny jeans have usable pockets.",
">\n\nPlus this removes cash flow from an industry that makes choices for it's consumers in a way they vocally decry.\nVote with your wallet ladies. It works.",
">\n\nOk sometimes- I have a pair of men’s cargo joggers and they are amazing, BUT- there’s no room for having hips/boobs without having to wear a men’s XL without having the legs be super long or the shirt being large enough to host a wedding inside. I’m a short woman so buying men’s clothes esp in larger sizes- made for 5’10”+ does not make for a good fit",
">\n\nI am too short to wear men's clothing.\nA better idea would be for women's clothing to be made in a similar style to men's except flattering to women and in sizes women can actually wear comfortably. Also, pockets on women's clothes would be easy additions, especially considering how many fake pockets we get, but they want us buying handbags. If women started buying men's clothes then men's clothes would lose their pockets.",
">\n\nIf my tits fit in men's shirts with the ratio to shoulders then I'd love to",
">\n\nThey absolutely do have store to store size difference, WTF? There is massive variation in what 34” waist means. And then you have shirt cuts that are all meaningless jargon with the same words used to mean different things between different stores. XL in the chest of a shirt, depending on the brand can vary from 44”-54”",
">\n\nI've never experienced that. I buy from multiple stores and it always means the exact same thing in every store.",
">\n\nIf you’re just buying baggy, it’s probably not a problem, which it kinda sounds like you must be, but if you want clothes that fit, that’s a whole other ballgame."
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