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Short term wins over "woke" or "the libs" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits."
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I was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming.
I imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.
To be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors.
Source: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.
TLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope."
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I promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:
However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.
They do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.
What ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.
On top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger.
This is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug."
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Cheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily)
My point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this.
Instead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so."
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Your point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think.
I have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants."
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Yeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are."
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The Party of free enterprise, folks.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt."
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Republicans do hate to create more jobs.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks."
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Amazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs."
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Ironically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama."
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Youngkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production."
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Grocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run."
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Grocery tax should be zero.
Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing."
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It's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% "grocery tax" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source"
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The plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.
And there's the real reason.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax."
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Going to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason."
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Elections have consequences!
Everyone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.
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[
"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory."
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He campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out..."YOU LIE!"
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass."
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On par for GOP TBF.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\""
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Putting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians
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[
"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF."
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It’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.
Bill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.
George W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.
Barack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.
Donald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians"
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It’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster."
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Can't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?"
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What exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons."
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It’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else."
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“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?"
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Always recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.
Man is a walking contradiction.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added."
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Youngkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction."
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Can I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money."
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So what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his "street cred" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?
Republican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?"
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He's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them."
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Electric cars bad is what he meant to say
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that."
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Sen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.
“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.
This guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say"
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Opposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it."
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Don’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time."
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I was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?"
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Well that should end his Career or it should anyway.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do."
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VA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway."
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I was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid
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[
"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway."
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I guess he’s a Chevy guy.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid"
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Bring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy."
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Ah I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record.
DJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!
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[
"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business."
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But, but the Chinese...
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[
"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!"
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Is he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?
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[
"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese..."
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Ford will find a suitable site somewhere else
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?"
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This rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else"
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But he did own the libs, right?
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy."
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The Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?"
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This chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power."
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Youngkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”
There you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.
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[
"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged."
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I grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently."
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I hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself."
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I cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America."
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Go into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again."
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Not a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA."
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How long until Tennessee decides to tank "blue oval city" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs."
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Ford will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too."
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What's so dumb is that if you were properly strategically anti-China, you would love them invested in real production on US soil using the export cash we gave them. Then the US has the stuff from before AND the new plant. Kinda seems like a win, idk.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.",
">\n\nFord will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship."
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CATL owns the tech and Ford is desperate so it’s likely that Ford will pay CATL anything they ask for the privilege of getting the cells they need.
My guess is Ford won’t save much if any money with they arrangement for a variety of reasons.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.",
">\n\nFord will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship.",
">\n\nWhat's so dumb is that if you were properly strategically anti-China, you would love them invested in real production on US soil using the export cash we gave them. Then the US has the stuff from before AND the new plant. Kinda seems like a win, idk."
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LFP cells are going to be really important moving forward as well.
They're cheaper to produce, don't have any cobalt, use commonly available materials and have a super high cycle rate
Their downside is they have a lower energy density, so making a long range vehicles with them isn't practical, but for standard range vehicles they are perfect, but it frees up materials for LR vehicles that are more scarce/expensive
They're also perfect for stationary storage where weight and size are less of concern.
The new sodium batteries once commercialized won't be as good for cars, but could be really good for storage, so LFP won't be going anywhere anytime soon.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.",
">\n\nFord will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship.",
">\n\nWhat's so dumb is that if you were properly strategically anti-China, you would love them invested in real production on US soil using the export cash we gave them. Then the US has the stuff from before AND the new plant. Kinda seems like a win, idk.",
">\n\nCATL owns the tech and Ford is desperate so it’s likely that Ford will pay CATL anything they ask for the privilege of getting the cells they need.\nMy guess is Ford won’t save much if any money with they arrangement for a variety of reasons."
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But I will bet he is willing to take campaign contributions from the Chinese.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.",
">\n\nFord will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship.",
">\n\nWhat's so dumb is that if you were properly strategically anti-China, you would love them invested in real production on US soil using the export cash we gave them. Then the US has the stuff from before AND the new plant. Kinda seems like a win, idk.",
">\n\nCATL owns the tech and Ford is desperate so it’s likely that Ford will pay CATL anything they ask for the privilege of getting the cells they need.\nMy guess is Ford won’t save much if any money with they arrangement for a variety of reasons.",
">\n\nLFP cells are going to be really important moving forward as well.\nThey're cheaper to produce, don't have any cobalt, use commonly available materials and have a super high cycle rate\nTheir downside is they have a lower energy density, so making a long range vehicles with them isn't practical, but for standard range vehicles they are perfect, but it frees up materials for LR vehicles that are more scarce/expensive \nThey're also perfect for stationary storage where weight and size are less of concern. \nThe new sodium batteries once commercialized won't be as good for cars, but could be really good for storage, so LFP won't be going anywhere anytime soon."
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Youngkin sucks but I can’t remember a time where a company actually delivered on the jobs they promised they’d bring
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.",
">\n\nFord will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship.",
">\n\nWhat's so dumb is that if you were properly strategically anti-China, you would love them invested in real production on US soil using the export cash we gave them. Then the US has the stuff from before AND the new plant. Kinda seems like a win, idk.",
">\n\nCATL owns the tech and Ford is desperate so it’s likely that Ford will pay CATL anything they ask for the privilege of getting the cells they need.\nMy guess is Ford won’t save much if any money with they arrangement for a variety of reasons.",
">\n\nLFP cells are going to be really important moving forward as well.\nThey're cheaper to produce, don't have any cobalt, use commonly available materials and have a super high cycle rate\nTheir downside is they have a lower energy density, so making a long range vehicles with them isn't practical, but for standard range vehicles they are perfect, but it frees up materials for LR vehicles that are more scarce/expensive \nThey're also perfect for stationary storage where weight and size are less of concern. \nThe new sodium batteries once commercialized won't be as good for cars, but could be really good for storage, so LFP won't be going anywhere anytime soon.",
">\n\nBut I will bet he is willing to take campaign contributions from the Chinese."
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NC would love a Ford factory. NJ residents elected a moron.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.",
">\n\nFord will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship.",
">\n\nWhat's so dumb is that if you were properly strategically anti-China, you would love them invested in real production on US soil using the export cash we gave them. Then the US has the stuff from before AND the new plant. Kinda seems like a win, idk.",
">\n\nCATL owns the tech and Ford is desperate so it’s likely that Ford will pay CATL anything they ask for the privilege of getting the cells they need.\nMy guess is Ford won’t save much if any money with they arrangement for a variety of reasons.",
">\n\nLFP cells are going to be really important moving forward as well.\nThey're cheaper to produce, don't have any cobalt, use commonly available materials and have a super high cycle rate\nTheir downside is they have a lower energy density, so making a long range vehicles with them isn't practical, but for standard range vehicles they are perfect, but it frees up materials for LR vehicles that are more scarce/expensive \nThey're also perfect for stationary storage where weight and size are less of concern. \nThe new sodium batteries once commercialized won't be as good for cars, but could be really good for storage, so LFP won't be going anywhere anytime soon.",
">\n\nBut I will bet he is willing to take campaign contributions from the Chinese.",
">\n\nYoungkin sucks but I can’t remember a time where a company actually delivered on the jobs they promised they’d bring"
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I thought he was VA?
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.",
">\n\nFord will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship.",
">\n\nWhat's so dumb is that if you were properly strategically anti-China, you would love them invested in real production on US soil using the export cash we gave them. Then the US has the stuff from before AND the new plant. Kinda seems like a win, idk.",
">\n\nCATL owns the tech and Ford is desperate so it’s likely that Ford will pay CATL anything they ask for the privilege of getting the cells they need.\nMy guess is Ford won’t save much if any money with they arrangement for a variety of reasons.",
">\n\nLFP cells are going to be really important moving forward as well.\nThey're cheaper to produce, don't have any cobalt, use commonly available materials and have a super high cycle rate\nTheir downside is they have a lower energy density, so making a long range vehicles with them isn't practical, but for standard range vehicles they are perfect, but it frees up materials for LR vehicles that are more scarce/expensive \nThey're also perfect for stationary storage where weight and size are less of concern. \nThe new sodium batteries once commercialized won't be as good for cars, but could be really good for storage, so LFP won't be going anywhere anytime soon.",
">\n\nBut I will bet he is willing to take campaign contributions from the Chinese.",
">\n\nYoungkin sucks but I can’t remember a time where a company actually delivered on the jobs they promised they’d bring",
">\n\nNC would love a Ford factory. NJ residents elected a moron."
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It's a Chinese battery company, Ford is partnered with them.
He doesn't support China building battery factories in Virginia and giving them political leverage.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.",
">\n\nFord will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship.",
">\n\nWhat's so dumb is that if you were properly strategically anti-China, you would love them invested in real production on US soil using the export cash we gave them. Then the US has the stuff from before AND the new plant. Kinda seems like a win, idk.",
">\n\nCATL owns the tech and Ford is desperate so it’s likely that Ford will pay CATL anything they ask for the privilege of getting the cells they need.\nMy guess is Ford won’t save much if any money with they arrangement for a variety of reasons.",
">\n\nLFP cells are going to be really important moving forward as well.\nThey're cheaper to produce, don't have any cobalt, use commonly available materials and have a super high cycle rate\nTheir downside is they have a lower energy density, so making a long range vehicles with them isn't practical, but for standard range vehicles they are perfect, but it frees up materials for LR vehicles that are more scarce/expensive \nThey're also perfect for stationary storage where weight and size are less of concern. \nThe new sodium batteries once commercialized won't be as good for cars, but could be really good for storage, so LFP won't be going anywhere anytime soon.",
">\n\nBut I will bet he is willing to take campaign contributions from the Chinese.",
">\n\nYoungkin sucks but I can’t remember a time where a company actually delivered on the jobs they promised they’d bring",
">\n\nNC would love a Ford factory. NJ residents elected a moron.",
">\n\nI thought he was VA?"
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Agreed, Youngkin is complete dumbass.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.",
">\n\nFord will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship.",
">\n\nWhat's so dumb is that if you were properly strategically anti-China, you would love them invested in real production on US soil using the export cash we gave them. Then the US has the stuff from before AND the new plant. Kinda seems like a win, idk.",
">\n\nCATL owns the tech and Ford is desperate so it’s likely that Ford will pay CATL anything they ask for the privilege of getting the cells they need.\nMy guess is Ford won’t save much if any money with they arrangement for a variety of reasons.",
">\n\nLFP cells are going to be really important moving forward as well.\nThey're cheaper to produce, don't have any cobalt, use commonly available materials and have a super high cycle rate\nTheir downside is they have a lower energy density, so making a long range vehicles with them isn't practical, but for standard range vehicles they are perfect, but it frees up materials for LR vehicles that are more scarce/expensive \nThey're also perfect for stationary storage where weight and size are less of concern. \nThe new sodium batteries once commercialized won't be as good for cars, but could be really good for storage, so LFP won't be going anywhere anytime soon.",
">\n\nBut I will bet he is willing to take campaign contributions from the Chinese.",
">\n\nYoungkin sucks but I can’t remember a time where a company actually delivered on the jobs they promised they’d bring",
">\n\nNC would love a Ford factory. NJ residents elected a moron.",
">\n\nI thought he was VA?",
">\n\nIt's a Chinese battery company, Ford is partnered with them. \nHe doesn't support China building battery factories in Virginia and giving them political leverage."
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CCP says, what?
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.",
">\n\nFord will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship.",
">\n\nWhat's so dumb is that if you were properly strategically anti-China, you would love them invested in real production on US soil using the export cash we gave them. Then the US has the stuff from before AND the new plant. Kinda seems like a win, idk.",
">\n\nCATL owns the tech and Ford is desperate so it’s likely that Ford will pay CATL anything they ask for the privilege of getting the cells they need.\nMy guess is Ford won’t save much if any money with they arrangement for a variety of reasons.",
">\n\nLFP cells are going to be really important moving forward as well.\nThey're cheaper to produce, don't have any cobalt, use commonly available materials and have a super high cycle rate\nTheir downside is they have a lower energy density, so making a long range vehicles with them isn't practical, but for standard range vehicles they are perfect, but it frees up materials for LR vehicles that are more scarce/expensive \nThey're also perfect for stationary storage where weight and size are less of concern. \nThe new sodium batteries once commercialized won't be as good for cars, but could be really good for storage, so LFP won't be going anywhere anytime soon.",
">\n\nBut I will bet he is willing to take campaign contributions from the Chinese.",
">\n\nYoungkin sucks but I can’t remember a time where a company actually delivered on the jobs they promised they’d bring",
">\n\nNC would love a Ford factory. NJ residents elected a moron.",
">\n\nI thought he was VA?",
">\n\nIt's a Chinese battery company, Ford is partnered with them. \nHe doesn't support China building battery factories in Virginia and giving them political leverage.",
">\n\nAgreed, Youngkin is complete dumbass."
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So China should only be able to spend their dollars on USA government bonds and control us even more. It make far more sense for them to help Ford with electric car battery technology.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.",
">\n\nFord will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship.",
">\n\nWhat's so dumb is that if you were properly strategically anti-China, you would love them invested in real production on US soil using the export cash we gave them. Then the US has the stuff from before AND the new plant. Kinda seems like a win, idk.",
">\n\nCATL owns the tech and Ford is desperate so it’s likely that Ford will pay CATL anything they ask for the privilege of getting the cells they need.\nMy guess is Ford won’t save much if any money with they arrangement for a variety of reasons.",
">\n\nLFP cells are going to be really important moving forward as well.\nThey're cheaper to produce, don't have any cobalt, use commonly available materials and have a super high cycle rate\nTheir downside is they have a lower energy density, so making a long range vehicles with them isn't practical, but for standard range vehicles they are perfect, but it frees up materials for LR vehicles that are more scarce/expensive \nThey're also perfect for stationary storage where weight and size are less of concern. \nThe new sodium batteries once commercialized won't be as good for cars, but could be really good for storage, so LFP won't be going anywhere anytime soon.",
">\n\nBut I will bet he is willing to take campaign contributions from the Chinese.",
">\n\nYoungkin sucks but I can’t remember a time where a company actually delivered on the jobs they promised they’d bring",
">\n\nNC would love a Ford factory. NJ residents elected a moron.",
">\n\nI thought he was VA?",
">\n\nIt's a Chinese battery company, Ford is partnered with them. \nHe doesn't support China building battery factories in Virginia and giving them political leverage.",
">\n\nAgreed, Youngkin is complete dumbass.",
">\n\nCCP says, what?"
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This dude is genuinely just a piece of dogshit. Live in Virginia can confirm.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.",
">\n\nFord will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship.",
">\n\nWhat's so dumb is that if you were properly strategically anti-China, you would love them invested in real production on US soil using the export cash we gave them. Then the US has the stuff from before AND the new plant. Kinda seems like a win, idk.",
">\n\nCATL owns the tech and Ford is desperate so it’s likely that Ford will pay CATL anything they ask for the privilege of getting the cells they need.\nMy guess is Ford won’t save much if any money with they arrangement for a variety of reasons.",
">\n\nLFP cells are going to be really important moving forward as well.\nThey're cheaper to produce, don't have any cobalt, use commonly available materials and have a super high cycle rate\nTheir downside is they have a lower energy density, so making a long range vehicles with them isn't practical, but for standard range vehicles they are perfect, but it frees up materials for LR vehicles that are more scarce/expensive \nThey're also perfect for stationary storage where weight and size are less of concern. \nThe new sodium batteries once commercialized won't be as good for cars, but could be really good for storage, so LFP won't be going anywhere anytime soon.",
">\n\nBut I will bet he is willing to take campaign contributions from the Chinese.",
">\n\nYoungkin sucks but I can’t remember a time where a company actually delivered on the jobs they promised they’d bring",
">\n\nNC would love a Ford factory. NJ residents elected a moron.",
">\n\nI thought he was VA?",
">\n\nIt's a Chinese battery company, Ford is partnered with them. \nHe doesn't support China building battery factories in Virginia and giving them political leverage.",
">\n\nAgreed, Youngkin is complete dumbass.",
">\n\nCCP says, what?",
">\n\nSo China should only be able to spend their dollars on USA government bonds and control us even more. It make far more sense for them to help Ford with electric car battery technology."
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.",
">\n\nFord will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship.",
">\n\nWhat's so dumb is that if you were properly strategically anti-China, you would love them invested in real production on US soil using the export cash we gave them. Then the US has the stuff from before AND the new plant. Kinda seems like a win, idk.",
">\n\nCATL owns the tech and Ford is desperate so it’s likely that Ford will pay CATL anything they ask for the privilege of getting the cells they need.\nMy guess is Ford won’t save much if any money with they arrangement for a variety of reasons.",
">\n\nLFP cells are going to be really important moving forward as well.\nThey're cheaper to produce, don't have any cobalt, use commonly available materials and have a super high cycle rate\nTheir downside is they have a lower energy density, so making a long range vehicles with them isn't practical, but for standard range vehicles they are perfect, but it frees up materials for LR vehicles that are more scarce/expensive \nThey're also perfect for stationary storage where weight and size are less of concern. \nThe new sodium batteries once commercialized won't be as good for cars, but could be really good for storage, so LFP won't be going anywhere anytime soon.",
">\n\nBut I will bet he is willing to take campaign contributions from the Chinese.",
">\n\nYoungkin sucks but I can’t remember a time where a company actually delivered on the jobs they promised they’d bring",
">\n\nNC would love a Ford factory. NJ residents elected a moron.",
">\n\nI thought he was VA?",
">\n\nIt's a Chinese battery company, Ford is partnered with them. \nHe doesn't support China building battery factories in Virginia and giving them political leverage.",
">\n\nAgreed, Youngkin is complete dumbass.",
">\n\nCCP says, what?",
">\n\nSo China should only be able to spend their dollars on USA government bonds and control us even more. It make far more sense for them to help Ford with electric car battery technology.",
">\n\nThis dude is genuinely just a piece of dogshit. Live in Virginia can confirm."
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I live in this area and we had a Ford plant that years ago that was shut down. A lot of good people lost good paying jobs. I’m astonished that he would turn this down.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.",
">\n\nFord will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship.",
">\n\nWhat's so dumb is that if you were properly strategically anti-China, you would love them invested in real production on US soil using the export cash we gave them. Then the US has the stuff from before AND the new plant. Kinda seems like a win, idk.",
">\n\nCATL owns the tech and Ford is desperate so it’s likely that Ford will pay CATL anything they ask for the privilege of getting the cells they need.\nMy guess is Ford won’t save much if any money with they arrangement for a variety of reasons.",
">\n\nLFP cells are going to be really important moving forward as well.\nThey're cheaper to produce, don't have any cobalt, use commonly available materials and have a super high cycle rate\nTheir downside is they have a lower energy density, so making a long range vehicles with them isn't practical, but for standard range vehicles they are perfect, but it frees up materials for LR vehicles that are more scarce/expensive \nThey're also perfect for stationary storage where weight and size are less of concern. \nThe new sodium batteries once commercialized won't be as good for cars, but could be really good for storage, so LFP won't be going anywhere anytime soon.",
">\n\nBut I will bet he is willing to take campaign contributions from the Chinese.",
">\n\nYoungkin sucks but I can’t remember a time where a company actually delivered on the jobs they promised they’d bring",
">\n\nNC would love a Ford factory. NJ residents elected a moron.",
">\n\nI thought he was VA?",
">\n\nIt's a Chinese battery company, Ford is partnered with them. \nHe doesn't support China building battery factories in Virginia and giving them political leverage.",
">\n\nAgreed, Youngkin is complete dumbass.",
">\n\nCCP says, what?",
">\n\nSo China should only be able to spend their dollars on USA government bonds and control us even more. It make far more sense for them to help Ford with electric car battery technology.",
">\n\nThis dude is genuinely just a piece of dogshit. Live in Virginia can confirm.",
">\n\nWhat a loser"
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that's like 15 Keystone XLs
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.",
">\n\nFord will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship.",
">\n\nWhat's so dumb is that if you were properly strategically anti-China, you would love them invested in real production on US soil using the export cash we gave them. Then the US has the stuff from before AND the new plant. Kinda seems like a win, idk.",
">\n\nCATL owns the tech and Ford is desperate so it’s likely that Ford will pay CATL anything they ask for the privilege of getting the cells they need.\nMy guess is Ford won’t save much if any money with they arrangement for a variety of reasons.",
">\n\nLFP cells are going to be really important moving forward as well.\nThey're cheaper to produce, don't have any cobalt, use commonly available materials and have a super high cycle rate\nTheir downside is they have a lower energy density, so making a long range vehicles with them isn't practical, but for standard range vehicles they are perfect, but it frees up materials for LR vehicles that are more scarce/expensive \nThey're also perfect for stationary storage where weight and size are less of concern. \nThe new sodium batteries once commercialized won't be as good for cars, but could be really good for storage, so LFP won't be going anywhere anytime soon.",
">\n\nBut I will bet he is willing to take campaign contributions from the Chinese.",
">\n\nYoungkin sucks but I can’t remember a time where a company actually delivered on the jobs they promised they’d bring",
">\n\nNC would love a Ford factory. NJ residents elected a moron.",
">\n\nI thought he was VA?",
">\n\nIt's a Chinese battery company, Ford is partnered with them. \nHe doesn't support China building battery factories in Virginia and giving them political leverage.",
">\n\nAgreed, Youngkin is complete dumbass.",
">\n\nCCP says, what?",
">\n\nSo China should only be able to spend their dollars on USA government bonds and control us even more. It make far more sense for them to help Ford with electric car battery technology.",
">\n\nThis dude is genuinely just a piece of dogshit. Live in Virginia can confirm.",
">\n\nWhat a loser",
">\n\nI live in this area and we had a Ford plant that years ago that was shut down. A lot of good people lost good paying jobs. I’m astonished that he would turn this down."
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Me, from Southside, laughing at all the republicans where I live who voted him in.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.",
">\n\nFord will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship.",
">\n\nWhat's so dumb is that if you were properly strategically anti-China, you would love them invested in real production on US soil using the export cash we gave them. Then the US has the stuff from before AND the new plant. Kinda seems like a win, idk.",
">\n\nCATL owns the tech and Ford is desperate so it’s likely that Ford will pay CATL anything they ask for the privilege of getting the cells they need.\nMy guess is Ford won’t save much if any money with they arrangement for a variety of reasons.",
">\n\nLFP cells are going to be really important moving forward as well.\nThey're cheaper to produce, don't have any cobalt, use commonly available materials and have a super high cycle rate\nTheir downside is they have a lower energy density, so making a long range vehicles with them isn't practical, but for standard range vehicles they are perfect, but it frees up materials for LR vehicles that are more scarce/expensive \nThey're also perfect for stationary storage where weight and size are less of concern. \nThe new sodium batteries once commercialized won't be as good for cars, but could be really good for storage, so LFP won't be going anywhere anytime soon.",
">\n\nBut I will bet he is willing to take campaign contributions from the Chinese.",
">\n\nYoungkin sucks but I can’t remember a time where a company actually delivered on the jobs they promised they’d bring",
">\n\nNC would love a Ford factory. NJ residents elected a moron.",
">\n\nI thought he was VA?",
">\n\nIt's a Chinese battery company, Ford is partnered with them. \nHe doesn't support China building battery factories in Virginia and giving them political leverage.",
">\n\nAgreed, Youngkin is complete dumbass.",
">\n\nCCP says, what?",
">\n\nSo China should only be able to spend their dollars on USA government bonds and control us even more. It make far more sense for them to help Ford with electric car battery technology.",
">\n\nThis dude is genuinely just a piece of dogshit. Live in Virginia can confirm.",
">\n\nWhat a loser",
">\n\nI live in this area and we had a Ford plant that years ago that was shut down. A lot of good people lost good paying jobs. I’m astonished that he would turn this down.",
">\n\nthat's like 15 Keystone XLs"
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Good call. I’m sick of China influencing our kids and batteries.
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.",
">\n\nFord will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship.",
">\n\nWhat's so dumb is that if you were properly strategically anti-China, you would love them invested in real production on US soil using the export cash we gave them. Then the US has the stuff from before AND the new plant. Kinda seems like a win, idk.",
">\n\nCATL owns the tech and Ford is desperate so it’s likely that Ford will pay CATL anything they ask for the privilege of getting the cells they need.\nMy guess is Ford won’t save much if any money with they arrangement for a variety of reasons.",
">\n\nLFP cells are going to be really important moving forward as well.\nThey're cheaper to produce, don't have any cobalt, use commonly available materials and have a super high cycle rate\nTheir downside is they have a lower energy density, so making a long range vehicles with them isn't practical, but for standard range vehicles they are perfect, but it frees up materials for LR vehicles that are more scarce/expensive \nThey're also perfect for stationary storage where weight and size are less of concern. \nThe new sodium batteries once commercialized won't be as good for cars, but could be really good for storage, so LFP won't be going anywhere anytime soon.",
">\n\nBut I will bet he is willing to take campaign contributions from the Chinese.",
">\n\nYoungkin sucks but I can’t remember a time where a company actually delivered on the jobs they promised they’d bring",
">\n\nNC would love a Ford factory. NJ residents elected a moron.",
">\n\nI thought he was VA?",
">\n\nIt's a Chinese battery company, Ford is partnered with them. \nHe doesn't support China building battery factories in Virginia and giving them political leverage.",
">\n\nAgreed, Youngkin is complete dumbass.",
">\n\nCCP says, what?",
">\n\nSo China should only be able to spend their dollars on USA government bonds and control us even more. It make far more sense for them to help Ford with electric car battery technology.",
">\n\nThis dude is genuinely just a piece of dogshit. Live in Virginia can confirm.",
">\n\nWhat a loser",
">\n\nI live in this area and we had a Ford plant that years ago that was shut down. A lot of good people lost good paying jobs. I’m astonished that he would turn this down.",
">\n\nthat's like 15 Keystone XLs",
">\n\nMe, from Southside, laughing at all the republicans where I live who voted him in."
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FUCK ford
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.",
">\n\nFord will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship.",
">\n\nWhat's so dumb is that if you were properly strategically anti-China, you would love them invested in real production on US soil using the export cash we gave them. Then the US has the stuff from before AND the new plant. Kinda seems like a win, idk.",
">\n\nCATL owns the tech and Ford is desperate so it’s likely that Ford will pay CATL anything they ask for the privilege of getting the cells they need.\nMy guess is Ford won’t save much if any money with they arrangement for a variety of reasons.",
">\n\nLFP cells are going to be really important moving forward as well.\nThey're cheaper to produce, don't have any cobalt, use commonly available materials and have a super high cycle rate\nTheir downside is they have a lower energy density, so making a long range vehicles with them isn't practical, but for standard range vehicles they are perfect, but it frees up materials for LR vehicles that are more scarce/expensive \nThey're also perfect for stationary storage where weight and size are less of concern. \nThe new sodium batteries once commercialized won't be as good for cars, but could be really good for storage, so LFP won't be going anywhere anytime soon.",
">\n\nBut I will bet he is willing to take campaign contributions from the Chinese.",
">\n\nYoungkin sucks but I can’t remember a time where a company actually delivered on the jobs they promised they’d bring",
">\n\nNC would love a Ford factory. NJ residents elected a moron.",
">\n\nI thought he was VA?",
">\n\nIt's a Chinese battery company, Ford is partnered with them. \nHe doesn't support China building battery factories in Virginia and giving them political leverage.",
">\n\nAgreed, Youngkin is complete dumbass.",
">\n\nCCP says, what?",
">\n\nSo China should only be able to spend their dollars on USA government bonds and control us even more. It make far more sense for them to help Ford with electric car battery technology.",
">\n\nThis dude is genuinely just a piece of dogshit. Live in Virginia can confirm.",
">\n\nWhat a loser",
">\n\nI live in this area and we had a Ford plant that years ago that was shut down. A lot of good people lost good paying jobs. I’m astonished that he would turn this down.",
">\n\nthat's like 15 Keystone XLs",
">\n\nMe, from Southside, laughing at all the republicans where I live who voted him in.",
">\n\nGood call. I’m sick of China influencing our kids and batteries."
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.",
">\n\nFord will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship.",
">\n\nWhat's so dumb is that if you were properly strategically anti-China, you would love them invested in real production on US soil using the export cash we gave them. Then the US has the stuff from before AND the new plant. Kinda seems like a win, idk.",
">\n\nCATL owns the tech and Ford is desperate so it’s likely that Ford will pay CATL anything they ask for the privilege of getting the cells they need.\nMy guess is Ford won’t save much if any money with they arrangement for a variety of reasons.",
">\n\nLFP cells are going to be really important moving forward as well.\nThey're cheaper to produce, don't have any cobalt, use commonly available materials and have a super high cycle rate\nTheir downside is they have a lower energy density, so making a long range vehicles with them isn't practical, but for standard range vehicles they are perfect, but it frees up materials for LR vehicles that are more scarce/expensive \nThey're also perfect for stationary storage where weight and size are less of concern. \nThe new sodium batteries once commercialized won't be as good for cars, but could be really good for storage, so LFP won't be going anywhere anytime soon.",
">\n\nBut I will bet he is willing to take campaign contributions from the Chinese.",
">\n\nYoungkin sucks but I can’t remember a time where a company actually delivered on the jobs they promised they’d bring",
">\n\nNC would love a Ford factory. NJ residents elected a moron.",
">\n\nI thought he was VA?",
">\n\nIt's a Chinese battery company, Ford is partnered with them. \nHe doesn't support China building battery factories in Virginia and giving them political leverage.",
">\n\nAgreed, Youngkin is complete dumbass.",
">\n\nCCP says, what?",
">\n\nSo China should only be able to spend their dollars on USA government bonds and control us even more. It make far more sense for them to help Ford with electric car battery technology.",
">\n\nThis dude is genuinely just a piece of dogshit. Live in Virginia can confirm.",
">\n\nWhat a loser",
">\n\nI live in this area and we had a Ford plant that years ago that was shut down. A lot of good people lost good paying jobs. I’m astonished that he would turn this down.",
">\n\nthat's like 15 Keystone XLs",
">\n\nMe, from Southside, laughing at all the republicans where I live who voted him in.",
">\n\nGood call. I’m sick of China influencing our kids and batteries.",
">\n\nFUCK ford"
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"The same thing almost happened in South Carolina when nikki haley became governor.\nClemson University was in the middle of a years long negotiation with an automaker to get them to open a plant with new automation techniques for research purposes.\nHaley was like, \"nah, we don't need those 1500 jobs\" and tried to tank the deal.",
">\n\nWhat is that heifer up to these days? Pretty quiet.",
">\n\n15 years and $200 million to create the largest industrial development area in the country, and it's still empty. Great work, dipshits.\n\"But Ford is partners with the CCP...\"\nHave you heard of Apple? IBM? Caterpillar? Boeing? Microsoft? Amazon? Nike? Starbucks?\nOf course companies do business with China, they have a billion people. They're the 2nd largest economy in the world.\nWhat a dumbass.",
">\n\nObviously it really has nothing to do with CCP. It's that Republicans don't like electric vehicles since they're entire party is owned by the oil & gas industry, in particular the Kochs,\nThe plant they had shut down was one to make batteries for electric vehicles.\nAlso about a third of the population in Southside, Virginia is black. While I imagine that's also a factor, the primary factor here, IMO, was entirely due to the oil & gas industry.",
">\n\nAnd it’s funny they think this way. \nYou kept it out of your state sure but they just build it in another state that actually wants to have progress. \nSo you just hurt your own people to accomplish nada. \nWell done dipshits.",
">\n\nShort term wins over \"woke\" or \"the libs\" or whatever. Look at Wyoming announcing they are going to entirely phase out EVs. You'd think a state whose only redeemable quality is its environment would care more about it. But nope.",
">\n\nI was gonna make a mostly joking comment about how I’ve done Mormon pioneer reenactment treks through Wyoming, and that I’ve driven west to east, and south to north in Wyoming and wasn’t really impressed by the endless sage brush… but then I remembered Yellowstone, The Grand Tetons, and The Devils Tower and many more amazing parks were also all in Wyoming. \nI imagine for Wyoming ranching/outdoor rec are two important economic industries that rely on a healthy environment (I understand carbon/methane produced by the cattle industry is not healthy for the global environment, but I assume you can’t raise cows on poisoned land). 2/3 of the land in Wyoming is established as cattle grazing land, and 2/3 of the population are employed in the service industry mostly within or around the national parks… However I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive. \nTo be fair to Wyoming, even though most of their local use energy is produced by burning coal, they also have a hydro electric dam, and a growing wind energy industry. They actually produce so much energy that they export some of it to their neighbors. \nSource: a combination of Wikipedia and encyclopedia Britannica on Wyoming and publicly available state income documents.\nTLDR: Pioneer treks suck. Wyoming makes more money from natural gas/petroleum/coal extraction than it does from ranching and outdoor recreational tourism, even though the latter industries occupy most of its land, and employ most of its people - industries which depend on a healthy environment. One could come to the conclusion that they want to make the most in the short term on a resource that is not future proof during a technological revolution. So to speak, they’re trying to force the cat back into the bag because their revenue is at risk. But I’m not an expert or even well educated on the subject so anyone feel free to correct me on anything, but on its face, it’s an embarrassing look for the state of Wyoming. and also addreral is a hell of a drug.",
">\n\nI promise I did read your entire post. But it really comes down to one portion, so I am going to focus on that:\n\nHowever I think mineral extraction is the biggest money maker for the state, producing natural gas, petroleum and coal. So I assume they have an interest in keeping those industries alive.\n\nThey do, and this was 100% bending over for those industries. They even specified that this was to protect those industries.\nWhat ultimately makes this a political stunt is that there is zero need to intentionally focus on EV sales. Wyoming as a state simply lacks the population to have much sway. If you factor in the total size, minus the people who would even get one, is just a tiny number.\nOn top of that, EVs would need infrastructure to be really widespread. If there is no place to charge your vehicle outside of your home and a handful of locations that may provide it, you are already neutering it without lifting a finger. \nThis is essentially creating a paper tiger to hunt, rather than focusing on any actual improvement of the state, or pivoting to more sustainable industries while there is still time to do so.",
">\n\nCheers for reading! :D I agree with you completely. I feel like the farce is made worse by the combination of facts that they produce a lot of wind energy, and that they’re also sitting on the nations largest uranium deposits. There is a lot of geothermal energy potential within Wyoming as well, as it’s sitting on a super volcano. (Though I wouldn’t want to see Yellowstone turn into an energy complex necessarily) \nMy point, in short, is that Wyoming could be on the cutting edge of green/renewable. They could foster these industries with pride and ambition, and brag about being a global leader. “…Because the land in its natural wonder, our people who live by it, and the animals we raise, our way of life, depend on sustainability and a clean environment, and that’s absolutely worth fighting for and protecting.” You could even hire Sam Elliot to read this. \nInstead you get this short term conservative performance bullshit. Wyoming, you deserve better than the people who claim to be your public servants.",
">\n\nYour point on the depending on sustainability and clean environment is what kills me the most, I think. \nI have known (friends and family) a lot of people who are the rednecky type. Which, sadly, seems synonymous with being conservative. And they all love the outdoors activity stuff. Hunting, fishing, camping, etc. The whole living off the land mentality. And you'd think conservation would be critical to them. And yet, here we are.",
">\n\nYeah it all seems to boil down to identity symbols and politics that have been carefully curated by conservative news outlets at the behest of the oil and mineral energy sector. Everyone knows you can’t enjoy fishing if you also drive a Chevy volt.",
">\n\nThe Party of free enterprise, folks.",
">\n\nRepublicans do hate to create more jobs.",
">\n\nAmazing that there are so many folks that actually support Youngkin doing this. Youngkin just made it even harder to bring in new business all for political drama.",
">\n\nIronically, it's the same people who have ZERO issues with Saudi Arabia and Russia having an elevated level of control over our economy through oil production.",
">\n\nYoungkin ran ads with one promise (eliminating food tax) and he hasn't even done that. Too busy out of state courting donors for a POTUS run.",
">\n\nGrocery tax went from 2.5% to 1% in VA on Jan 1st. It won't help a thing.",
">\n\nGrocery tax should be zero.\n\nSales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent.Sales taxes on groceries have an especially harmful impact on income and racial inequities since low-income families tend to spend a larger share of their income on groceries. The lowest-income fifth of families spend almost twice the share of their annual income on food at home that the highest-income fifth do: 10.3 percent versus 5.7 percent. source",
">\n\nIt's worth noting that in Virginia the 2.5% \"grocery tax\" was actually a discount over the 6% normal sales tax. It's not an additional tax.",
">\n\n\nThe plant would have built lithium iron phosphate batteries for Ford’s electric vehicles.\n\nAnd there's the real reason.",
">\n\nGoing to use that site for a My Pillow Factory.",
">\n\nElections have consequences! \nEveryone with half a brain saw Youngkin was a snake in the grass.",
">\n\nHe campaigned on being a businessman and bringing jobs back to hard working Virginians. As the guy in the SOTU infamously yelled out...\"YOU LIE!\"",
">\n\nOn par for GOP TBF.",
">\n\nPutting Presidential aspirations ahead of Virginians",
">\n\nIt’s funny how people always say that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats, yet these examples and others show that they are worse than democrats when it comes to that and create problems.\nBill Clinton stabilized a national budget for the US during his presidency.\nGeorge W Bush ruined it by funding two wars and leaving an unchecked housing bubble to swell until it exploded to become a global recession.\nBarack Obama came along and fixed the recession and ended the Iraq War and stabilized the country’s economy.\nDonald Trump ruined it by pouring money into wasteful projects, stole money for himself, his economic policies were the definition of sabotage, and he let the COVID-19 pandemic cause an economic disaster.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if believing the Infotainment Technicians, whose business model is BoTh SiDeS, is bad??? Hmm… could there be a connection?",
">\n\nCan't have these good paying jobs and raise living standards. People would be able to send their children to good schools, form unions etc. Worst of all have the opportunity to educate themselves about the state of the world instead of survive. They would eventually stop voting for these GOP morons.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is the economic threat here? Ford is going to get those batteries and now 2,500 jobs are going to be created somewhere else.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as though he doesn’t give a shit about the people he represents…who knew?",
">\n\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added.",
">\n\nAlways recall Don Fats has held a Chinese bank account throughout his shit talking.\nMan is a walking contradiction.",
">\n\nYoungkin is just doing his part to keep getting the bribes disguised as campaign contributions. He’s an empty suit willing to cast votes for money.",
">\n\nCan I blame all of the country’s economic problems and raising car prices for the next decade on this like the GOP does with the Keystone Pipeline?",
">\n\nSo what was the real reason? Did the petroleum industry up his ~~bribes~~ uhhh... campaign contributions, does the area have a higher percentage of minorities, or is he planning to rung for president and wants to increase his \"street cred\" with the MAGA crowd and is willing to do anything and everything to harm the future of the USA?\nRepublican governor of Virginia. It could be any of the above or a combination of all of them.",
">\n\nHe's running for president because they only allow one term for governor and you must bash China to do that.",
">\n\nElectric cars bad is what he meant to say",
">\n\n\nSen. Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, said in an interview that “to deny [people in the community] jobs because you’re in last place in Republican presidential primaries [is] gubernatorial malpractice.\n“I mean, this is clearly just obvious to me that the governor’s in some kind of out-China-bashing-contest with [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and Governor Greg Abbott out of Texas,” he added. \n\nThis guy spits unfiltered truth and I love it.",
">\n\nOpposing green energy is part of the Republican identity. Republicans will choose identity issues over economic issues, every single time.",
">\n\nDon’t want your constituents to get too financially independent with actual incomes and new life choices, right Youngkin?",
">\n\nI was born and raised in that area. It was always conservative but it’s gotten a much deeper shade of read ever since trump. Way more massive confederate flags on the highway too. It’s poor as shit and it’s got little going for it except the beautiful wilderness. You voted for this south side, all because the white man when “CRITICAL RACE THEORY” and you got scared like you always do.",
">\n\nWell that should end his Career or it should anyway.",
">\n\nVA voters getting what they deserve. Well, some of them anyway.",
">\n\nI was going to say hey wait a minute.....not all of us were stupid",
">\n\nI guess he’s a Chevy guy.",
">\n\nBring it back to Flint. Michigan will take the business.",
">\n\nAh I see we’ve moved on to the next track on the GOP spinning record. \nDJ: Next up, this blast from the past, that old favorite hit from the 80’s…Communism!",
">\n\nBut, but the Chinese...",
">\n\nIs he also planning on shutting down all the Wal Marts in the state?",
">\n\nFord will find a suitable site somewhere else",
">\n\nThis rich asshole previously worked for the Carlyle Group -- a global private equity firm. They did business with China while he was working there. He had ZERO problems working with China when it made him and his firm loads of money, but now suddenly he's against it? I fucking hate this guy.",
">\n\nBut he did own the libs, right?",
">\n\nThe Republican’s have to protect oil & carbon at all costs. No other industry has the profit margins to fund the propaganda levels necessary Republicans need to maintain power.",
">\n\nThis chucklefuck is claiming Ford is a front for the Chinese communist party basically. Totally unhinged.",
">\n\n\nYoungkin spokeswoman Macaulay Porter said in an email for this story: “While Ford is an iconic American company, it became clear that this proposal would serve as a front for the Chinese Communist party, which could compromise our economic security and Virginians’ personal privacy.…”\n\nThere you have it folks … a paycheck from Ford will seduce Virginia workers into the arms of Chinese communism apparently.",
">\n\nI grew up in Danville. He can go fuck himself.",
">\n\nI hope they relocate to a sane state. Republicans not the CCP are the big threat to America.",
">\n\nI cannot wait until I have the pleasure of voting against this man again.",
">\n\nGo into any DIY home improvement big box, Target, Walmart and try to find something made in USA. Better yet, try to find a MAGA HAT that’s made in the USA.",
">\n\nNot a problem. Michigan is very happy to have the plant and the jobs.",
">\n\nHow long until Tennessee decides to tank \"blue oval city\" or whatever it is? Michigan will gladly take all those jobs too.",
">\n\nFord will still partner with CATL they’ll just do a better job hiding their relationship.",
">\n\nWhat's so dumb is that if you were properly strategically anti-China, you would love them invested in real production on US soil using the export cash we gave them. Then the US has the stuff from before AND the new plant. Kinda seems like a win, idk.",
">\n\nCATL owns the tech and Ford is desperate so it’s likely that Ford will pay CATL anything they ask for the privilege of getting the cells they need.\nMy guess is Ford won’t save much if any money with they arrangement for a variety of reasons.",
">\n\nLFP cells are going to be really important moving forward as well.\nThey're cheaper to produce, don't have any cobalt, use commonly available materials and have a super high cycle rate\nTheir downside is they have a lower energy density, so making a long range vehicles with them isn't practical, but for standard range vehicles they are perfect, but it frees up materials for LR vehicles that are more scarce/expensive \nThey're also perfect for stationary storage where weight and size are less of concern. \nThe new sodium batteries once commercialized won't be as good for cars, but could be really good for storage, so LFP won't be going anywhere anytime soon.",
">\n\nBut I will bet he is willing to take campaign contributions from the Chinese.",
">\n\nYoungkin sucks but I can’t remember a time where a company actually delivered on the jobs they promised they’d bring",
">\n\nNC would love a Ford factory. NJ residents elected a moron.",
">\n\nI thought he was VA?",
">\n\nIt's a Chinese battery company, Ford is partnered with them. \nHe doesn't support China building battery factories in Virginia and giving them political leverage.",
">\n\nAgreed, Youngkin is complete dumbass.",
">\n\nCCP says, what?",
">\n\nSo China should only be able to spend their dollars on USA government bonds and control us even more. It make far more sense for them to help Ford with electric car battery technology.",
">\n\nThis dude is genuinely just a piece of dogshit. Live in Virginia can confirm.",
">\n\nWhat a loser",
">\n\nI live in this area and we had a Ford plant that years ago that was shut down. A lot of good people lost good paying jobs. I’m astonished that he would turn this down.",
">\n\nthat's like 15 Keystone XLs",
">\n\nMe, from Southside, laughing at all the republicans where I live who voted him in.",
">\n\nGood call. I’m sick of China influencing our kids and batteries.",
">\n\nFUCK ford",
">\n\nWould like to hear this dudes side of the story. Then vote him out if it’s the standard political BS."
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Lol. They have to milk that overtime. Your pension is based on your best three years. It’s just a known secret and no one does a damn thing about it.
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As far as Im aware the pension calculations only include your base salary and not overtime.
The reason they do this is to just make more money, and part of that is because the pensions aren’t as gravy as most people think.
I was briefly a cop when I left the military, so I got to see the overtime trucks first hand.
Basically, you take your scheduled shift off, and a buddy covers you, then they would get their base pay on those shifts, plus days in-lieu. And then they would use the days in lieu to take off their scheduled shifts, which you then cover. So it ends up a vicious cycle where people build up so many days off, that half the shifts are “overtime”. Which is a bit of a misnomer because you’re just paid for the days you take off, but then also paid your base rate for days you cover, effectively doubling your salary if you can do it through a full year.
But the biggest reason they do this, is because while the pension plans are 75-80% of your best 3-5 years. You typically can’t draw them until you’re 65.
Which means if you’re a young guy like I was, who joined the force at 21, you put in your 25 years to earn your full pension, and then you realize you’re 46 years old and can’t pull your pension for another 19 years without taking significant penalties. And since the union fees are pretty heavy, you’re likely not saving enough money to gap 19 years before you get your pension.
So guys game the overtime system in various ways to just make extra money to spend and save.
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">\n\nI'm sure it has nothing to do with padding officer salaries... At all...",
">\n\nLol. They have to milk that overtime. Your pension is based on your best three years. It’s just a known secret and no one does a damn thing about it."
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Unless they’ve changed the regulations in recent years - which I doubt, because unions never give up anything without a huge fight - pension is based off your total salary, including OT, your last three years. Combine that with those with seniority get first refusal on OT, and there a lot of padding that has always gone on.
I had a family member, did a ton of OT his last 3 years, retired the day his 20 kicked he - he was early 50s - and got his full pension immediately. Again, this was years ago, and it’s possible it’s changed since, but knowing unions, I doubt it.
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"\"The department has already spent $411.9 million on overtime in the first six months of fiscal 2023, according to the IBO. That leaves the department with about $43 million in their overtime budget — with six more months to go.\"",
">\n\nI'm sure it has nothing to do with padding officer salaries... At all...",
">\n\nLol. They have to milk that overtime. Your pension is based on your best three years. It’s just a known secret and no one does a damn thing about it.",
">\n\nAs far as Im aware the pension calculations only include your base salary and not overtime.\nThe reason they do this is to just make more money, and part of that is because the pensions aren’t as gravy as most people think.\nI was briefly a cop when I left the military, so I got to see the overtime trucks first hand.\nBasically, you take your scheduled shift off, and a buddy covers you, then they would get their base pay on those shifts, plus days in-lieu. And then they would use the days in lieu to take off their scheduled shifts, which you then cover. So it ends up a vicious cycle where people build up so many days off, that half the shifts are “overtime”. Which is a bit of a misnomer because you’re just paid for the days you take off, but then also paid your base rate for days you cover, effectively doubling your salary if you can do it through a full year.\nBut the biggest reason they do this, is because while the pension plans are 75-80% of your best 3-5 years. You typically can’t draw them until you’re 65.\nWhich means if you’re a young guy like I was, who joined the force at 21, you put in your 25 years to earn your full pension, and then you realize you’re 46 years old and can’t pull your pension for another 19 years without taking significant penalties. And since the union fees are pretty heavy, you’re likely not saving enough money to gap 19 years before you get your pension.\nSo guys game the overtime system in various ways to just make extra money to spend and save."
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Had a cop in my city that would've been working 90 hour weeks, year round to get the salary he pulled. Yet no fraud investigation occurred.
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">\n\nI'm sure it has nothing to do with padding officer salaries... At all...",
">\n\nLol. They have to milk that overtime. Your pension is based on your best three years. It’s just a known secret and no one does a damn thing about it.",
">\n\nAs far as Im aware the pension calculations only include your base salary and not overtime.\nThe reason they do this is to just make more money, and part of that is because the pensions aren’t as gravy as most people think.\nI was briefly a cop when I left the military, so I got to see the overtime trucks first hand.\nBasically, you take your scheduled shift off, and a buddy covers you, then they would get their base pay on those shifts, plus days in-lieu. And then they would use the days in lieu to take off their scheduled shifts, which you then cover. So it ends up a vicious cycle where people build up so many days off, that half the shifts are “overtime”. Which is a bit of a misnomer because you’re just paid for the days you take off, but then also paid your base rate for days you cover, effectively doubling your salary if you can do it through a full year.\nBut the biggest reason they do this, is because while the pension plans are 75-80% of your best 3-5 years. You typically can’t draw them until you’re 65.\nWhich means if you’re a young guy like I was, who joined the force at 21, you put in your 25 years to earn your full pension, and then you realize you’re 46 years old and can’t pull your pension for another 19 years without taking significant penalties. And since the union fees are pretty heavy, you’re likely not saving enough money to gap 19 years before you get your pension.\nSo guys game the overtime system in various ways to just make extra money to spend and save.",
">\n\nUnless they’ve changed the regulations in recent years - which I doubt, because unions never give up anything without a huge fight - pension is based off your total salary, including OT, your last three years. Combine that with those with seniority get first refusal on OT, and there a lot of padding that has always gone on.\nI had a family member, did a ton of OT his last 3 years, retired the day his 20 kicked he - he was early 50s - and got his full pension immediately. Again, this was years ago, and it’s possible it’s changed since, but knowing unions, I doubt it."
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">\n\nI'm sure it has nothing to do with padding officer salaries... At all...",
">\n\nLol. They have to milk that overtime. Your pension is based on your best three years. It’s just a known secret and no one does a damn thing about it.",
">\n\nAs far as Im aware the pension calculations only include your base salary and not overtime.\nThe reason they do this is to just make more money, and part of that is because the pensions aren’t as gravy as most people think.\nI was briefly a cop when I left the military, so I got to see the overtime trucks first hand.\nBasically, you take your scheduled shift off, and a buddy covers you, then they would get their base pay on those shifts, plus days in-lieu. And then they would use the days in lieu to take off their scheduled shifts, which you then cover. So it ends up a vicious cycle where people build up so many days off, that half the shifts are “overtime”. Which is a bit of a misnomer because you’re just paid for the days you take off, but then also paid your base rate for days you cover, effectively doubling your salary if you can do it through a full year.\nBut the biggest reason they do this, is because while the pension plans are 75-80% of your best 3-5 years. You typically can’t draw them until you’re 65.\nWhich means if you’re a young guy like I was, who joined the force at 21, you put in your 25 years to earn your full pension, and then you realize you’re 46 years old and can’t pull your pension for another 19 years without taking significant penalties. And since the union fees are pretty heavy, you’re likely not saving enough money to gap 19 years before you get your pension.\nSo guys game the overtime system in various ways to just make extra money to spend and save.",
">\n\nUnless they’ve changed the regulations in recent years - which I doubt, because unions never give up anything without a huge fight - pension is based off your total salary, including OT, your last three years. Combine that with those with seniority get first refusal on OT, and there a lot of padding that has always gone on.\nI had a family member, did a ton of OT his last 3 years, retired the day his 20 kicked he - he was early 50s - and got his full pension immediately. Again, this was years ago, and it’s possible it’s changed since, but knowing unions, I doubt it.",
">\n\nHad a cop in my city that would've been working 90 hour weeks, year round to get the salary he pulled. Yet no fraud investigation occurred."
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">\n\nI'm sure it has nothing to do with padding officer salaries... At all...",
">\n\nLol. They have to milk that overtime. Your pension is based on your best three years. It’s just a known secret and no one does a damn thing about it.",
">\n\nAs far as Im aware the pension calculations only include your base salary and not overtime.\nThe reason they do this is to just make more money, and part of that is because the pensions aren’t as gravy as most people think.\nI was briefly a cop when I left the military, so I got to see the overtime trucks first hand.\nBasically, you take your scheduled shift off, and a buddy covers you, then they would get their base pay on those shifts, plus days in-lieu. And then they would use the days in lieu to take off their scheduled shifts, which you then cover. So it ends up a vicious cycle where people build up so many days off, that half the shifts are “overtime”. Which is a bit of a misnomer because you’re just paid for the days you take off, but then also paid your base rate for days you cover, effectively doubling your salary if you can do it through a full year.\nBut the biggest reason they do this, is because while the pension plans are 75-80% of your best 3-5 years. You typically can’t draw them until you’re 65.\nWhich means if you’re a young guy like I was, who joined the force at 21, you put in your 25 years to earn your full pension, and then you realize you’re 46 years old and can’t pull your pension for another 19 years without taking significant penalties. And since the union fees are pretty heavy, you’re likely not saving enough money to gap 19 years before you get your pension.\nSo guys game the overtime system in various ways to just make extra money to spend and save.",
">\n\nUnless they’ve changed the regulations in recent years - which I doubt, because unions never give up anything without a huge fight - pension is based off your total salary, including OT, your last three years. Combine that with those with seniority get first refusal on OT, and there a lot of padding that has always gone on.\nI had a family member, did a ton of OT his last 3 years, retired the day his 20 kicked he - he was early 50s - and got his full pension immediately. Again, this was years ago, and it’s possible it’s changed since, but knowing unions, I doubt it.",
">\n\nHad a cop in my city that would've been working 90 hour weeks, year round to get the salary he pulled. Yet no fraud investigation occurred.",
">\n\nNew Yorker here. All I ever see NYPD do is stand around playing candy crush. One time I was waiting at Essex st\\delancy st station (which is a major hub for homeless people) and a homeless guy kept touching this girl. She went to a group of 4 cops for help and they dead told her to fuck off. There's my tax dollars at work."
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">\n\nI'm sure it has nothing to do with padding officer salaries... At all...",
">\n\nLol. They have to milk that overtime. Your pension is based on your best three years. It’s just a known secret and no one does a damn thing about it.",
">\n\nAs far as Im aware the pension calculations only include your base salary and not overtime.\nThe reason they do this is to just make more money, and part of that is because the pensions aren’t as gravy as most people think.\nI was briefly a cop when I left the military, so I got to see the overtime trucks first hand.\nBasically, you take your scheduled shift off, and a buddy covers you, then they would get their base pay on those shifts, plus days in-lieu. And then they would use the days in lieu to take off their scheduled shifts, which you then cover. So it ends up a vicious cycle where people build up so many days off, that half the shifts are “overtime”. Which is a bit of a misnomer because you’re just paid for the days you take off, but then also paid your base rate for days you cover, effectively doubling your salary if you can do it through a full year.\nBut the biggest reason they do this, is because while the pension plans are 75-80% of your best 3-5 years. You typically can’t draw them until you’re 65.\nWhich means if you’re a young guy like I was, who joined the force at 21, you put in your 25 years to earn your full pension, and then you realize you’re 46 years old and can’t pull your pension for another 19 years without taking significant penalties. And since the union fees are pretty heavy, you’re likely not saving enough money to gap 19 years before you get your pension.\nSo guys game the overtime system in various ways to just make extra money to spend and save.",
">\n\nUnless they’ve changed the regulations in recent years - which I doubt, because unions never give up anything without a huge fight - pension is based off your total salary, including OT, your last three years. Combine that with those with seniority get first refusal on OT, and there a lot of padding that has always gone on.\nI had a family member, did a ton of OT his last 3 years, retired the day his 20 kicked he - he was early 50s - and got his full pension immediately. Again, this was years ago, and it’s possible it’s changed since, but knowing unions, I doubt it.",
">\n\nHad a cop in my city that would've been working 90 hour weeks, year round to get the salary he pulled. Yet no fraud investigation occurred.",
">\n\nNew Yorker here. All I ever see NYPD do is stand around playing candy crush. One time I was waiting at Essex st\\delancy st station (which is a major hub for homeless people) and a homeless guy kept touching this girl. She went to a group of 4 cops for help and they dead told her to fuck off. There's my tax dollars at work.",
">\n\nThey do a great job abusing performers and those Hispanic women selling fruit and churros though. Totally worth it /s"
] |
>
Approached two NYPD officers about a woman a block away who was clearly in distress (underdressed for the weather, intoxicated) and they refused to do anything to help her.
|
[
"\"The department has already spent $411.9 million on overtime in the first six months of fiscal 2023, according to the IBO. That leaves the department with about $43 million in their overtime budget — with six more months to go.\"",
">\n\nI'm sure it has nothing to do with padding officer salaries... At all...",
">\n\nLol. They have to milk that overtime. Your pension is based on your best three years. It’s just a known secret and no one does a damn thing about it.",
">\n\nAs far as Im aware the pension calculations only include your base salary and not overtime.\nThe reason they do this is to just make more money, and part of that is because the pensions aren’t as gravy as most people think.\nI was briefly a cop when I left the military, so I got to see the overtime trucks first hand.\nBasically, you take your scheduled shift off, and a buddy covers you, then they would get their base pay on those shifts, plus days in-lieu. And then they would use the days in lieu to take off their scheduled shifts, which you then cover. So it ends up a vicious cycle where people build up so many days off, that half the shifts are “overtime”. Which is a bit of a misnomer because you’re just paid for the days you take off, but then also paid your base rate for days you cover, effectively doubling your salary if you can do it through a full year.\nBut the biggest reason they do this, is because while the pension plans are 75-80% of your best 3-5 years. You typically can’t draw them until you’re 65.\nWhich means if you’re a young guy like I was, who joined the force at 21, you put in your 25 years to earn your full pension, and then you realize you’re 46 years old and can’t pull your pension for another 19 years without taking significant penalties. And since the union fees are pretty heavy, you’re likely not saving enough money to gap 19 years before you get your pension.\nSo guys game the overtime system in various ways to just make extra money to spend and save.",
">\n\nUnless they’ve changed the regulations in recent years - which I doubt, because unions never give up anything without a huge fight - pension is based off your total salary, including OT, your last three years. Combine that with those with seniority get first refusal on OT, and there a lot of padding that has always gone on.\nI had a family member, did a ton of OT his last 3 years, retired the day his 20 kicked he - he was early 50s - and got his full pension immediately. Again, this was years ago, and it’s possible it’s changed since, but knowing unions, I doubt it.",
">\n\nHad a cop in my city that would've been working 90 hour weeks, year round to get the salary he pulled. Yet no fraud investigation occurred.",
">\n\nNew Yorker here. All I ever see NYPD do is stand around playing candy crush. One time I was waiting at Essex st\\delancy st station (which is a major hub for homeless people) and a homeless guy kept touching this girl. She went to a group of 4 cops for help and they dead told her to fuck off. There's my tax dollars at work.",
">\n\nThey do a great job abusing performers and those Hispanic women selling fruit and churros though. Totally worth it /s",
">\n\nWell clearly they just need more money"
] |
>
I unironically think they're still on strike over losing the right to shoot minorities. Funny thing is I was partially sympathetic until I realize they're just getting paid to stand there. Thanks mayor adams
|
[
"\"The department has already spent $411.9 million on overtime in the first six months of fiscal 2023, according to the IBO. That leaves the department with about $43 million in their overtime budget — with six more months to go.\"",
">\n\nI'm sure it has nothing to do with padding officer salaries... At all...",
">\n\nLol. They have to milk that overtime. Your pension is based on your best three years. It’s just a known secret and no one does a damn thing about it.",
">\n\nAs far as Im aware the pension calculations only include your base salary and not overtime.\nThe reason they do this is to just make more money, and part of that is because the pensions aren’t as gravy as most people think.\nI was briefly a cop when I left the military, so I got to see the overtime trucks first hand.\nBasically, you take your scheduled shift off, and a buddy covers you, then they would get their base pay on those shifts, plus days in-lieu. And then they would use the days in lieu to take off their scheduled shifts, which you then cover. So it ends up a vicious cycle where people build up so many days off, that half the shifts are “overtime”. Which is a bit of a misnomer because you’re just paid for the days you take off, but then also paid your base rate for days you cover, effectively doubling your salary if you can do it through a full year.\nBut the biggest reason they do this, is because while the pension plans are 75-80% of your best 3-5 years. You typically can’t draw them until you’re 65.\nWhich means if you’re a young guy like I was, who joined the force at 21, you put in your 25 years to earn your full pension, and then you realize you’re 46 years old and can’t pull your pension for another 19 years without taking significant penalties. And since the union fees are pretty heavy, you’re likely not saving enough money to gap 19 years before you get your pension.\nSo guys game the overtime system in various ways to just make extra money to spend and save.",
">\n\nUnless they’ve changed the regulations in recent years - which I doubt, because unions never give up anything without a huge fight - pension is based off your total salary, including OT, your last three years. Combine that with those with seniority get first refusal on OT, and there a lot of padding that has always gone on.\nI had a family member, did a ton of OT his last 3 years, retired the day his 20 kicked he - he was early 50s - and got his full pension immediately. Again, this was years ago, and it’s possible it’s changed since, but knowing unions, I doubt it.",
">\n\nHad a cop in my city that would've been working 90 hour weeks, year round to get the salary he pulled. Yet no fraud investigation occurred.",
">\n\nNew Yorker here. All I ever see NYPD do is stand around playing candy crush. One time I was waiting at Essex st\\delancy st station (which is a major hub for homeless people) and a homeless guy kept touching this girl. She went to a group of 4 cops for help and they dead told her to fuck off. There's my tax dollars at work.",
">\n\nThey do a great job abusing performers and those Hispanic women selling fruit and churros though. Totally worth it /s",
">\n\nWell clearly they just need more money",
">\n\nApproached two NYPD officers about a woman a block away who was clearly in distress (underdressed for the weather, intoxicated) and they refused to do anything to help her."
] |
>
This was a few years ago, pre Adams. But deBlasio wasn’t better.
|
[
"\"The department has already spent $411.9 million on overtime in the first six months of fiscal 2023, according to the IBO. That leaves the department with about $43 million in their overtime budget — with six more months to go.\"",
">\n\nI'm sure it has nothing to do with padding officer salaries... At all...",
">\n\nLol. They have to milk that overtime. Your pension is based on your best three years. It’s just a known secret and no one does a damn thing about it.",
">\n\nAs far as Im aware the pension calculations only include your base salary and not overtime.\nThe reason they do this is to just make more money, and part of that is because the pensions aren’t as gravy as most people think.\nI was briefly a cop when I left the military, so I got to see the overtime trucks first hand.\nBasically, you take your scheduled shift off, and a buddy covers you, then they would get their base pay on those shifts, plus days in-lieu. And then they would use the days in lieu to take off their scheduled shifts, which you then cover. So it ends up a vicious cycle where people build up so many days off, that half the shifts are “overtime”. Which is a bit of a misnomer because you’re just paid for the days you take off, but then also paid your base rate for days you cover, effectively doubling your salary if you can do it through a full year.\nBut the biggest reason they do this, is because while the pension plans are 75-80% of your best 3-5 years. You typically can’t draw them until you’re 65.\nWhich means if you’re a young guy like I was, who joined the force at 21, you put in your 25 years to earn your full pension, and then you realize you’re 46 years old and can’t pull your pension for another 19 years without taking significant penalties. And since the union fees are pretty heavy, you’re likely not saving enough money to gap 19 years before you get your pension.\nSo guys game the overtime system in various ways to just make extra money to spend and save.",
">\n\nUnless they’ve changed the regulations in recent years - which I doubt, because unions never give up anything without a huge fight - pension is based off your total salary, including OT, your last three years. Combine that with those with seniority get first refusal on OT, and there a lot of padding that has always gone on.\nI had a family member, did a ton of OT his last 3 years, retired the day his 20 kicked he - he was early 50s - and got his full pension immediately. Again, this was years ago, and it’s possible it’s changed since, but knowing unions, I doubt it.",
">\n\nHad a cop in my city that would've been working 90 hour weeks, year round to get the salary he pulled. Yet no fraud investigation occurred.",
">\n\nNew Yorker here. All I ever see NYPD do is stand around playing candy crush. One time I was waiting at Essex st\\delancy st station (which is a major hub for homeless people) and a homeless guy kept touching this girl. She went to a group of 4 cops for help and they dead told her to fuck off. There's my tax dollars at work.",
">\n\nThey do a great job abusing performers and those Hispanic women selling fruit and churros though. Totally worth it /s",
">\n\nWell clearly they just need more money",
">\n\nApproached two NYPD officers about a woman a block away who was clearly in distress (underdressed for the weather, intoxicated) and they refused to do anything to help her.",
">\n\nI unironically think they're still on strike over losing the right to shoot minorities. Funny thing is I was partially sympathetic until I realize they're just getting paid to stand there. Thanks mayor adams"
] |
>
Thus far, I'd say DeBlasio was better. Don't get me wrong, he was an oaf, but he, or his administration at least, did accomplish some positive things - universal pre-k, $15 minimum wage, sick leave.
I honestly don't know what positives Adams has done for "his city" at this point. All he seems to do is be front and center for photo ops.
But as far as NYPD, they both kowtow to it.
|
[
"\"The department has already spent $411.9 million on overtime in the first six months of fiscal 2023, according to the IBO. That leaves the department with about $43 million in their overtime budget — with six more months to go.\"",
">\n\nI'm sure it has nothing to do with padding officer salaries... At all...",
">\n\nLol. They have to milk that overtime. Your pension is based on your best three years. It’s just a known secret and no one does a damn thing about it.",
">\n\nAs far as Im aware the pension calculations only include your base salary and not overtime.\nThe reason they do this is to just make more money, and part of that is because the pensions aren’t as gravy as most people think.\nI was briefly a cop when I left the military, so I got to see the overtime trucks first hand.\nBasically, you take your scheduled shift off, and a buddy covers you, then they would get their base pay on those shifts, plus days in-lieu. And then they would use the days in lieu to take off their scheduled shifts, which you then cover. So it ends up a vicious cycle where people build up so many days off, that half the shifts are “overtime”. Which is a bit of a misnomer because you’re just paid for the days you take off, but then also paid your base rate for days you cover, effectively doubling your salary if you can do it through a full year.\nBut the biggest reason they do this, is because while the pension plans are 75-80% of your best 3-5 years. You typically can’t draw them until you’re 65.\nWhich means if you’re a young guy like I was, who joined the force at 21, you put in your 25 years to earn your full pension, and then you realize you’re 46 years old and can’t pull your pension for another 19 years without taking significant penalties. And since the union fees are pretty heavy, you’re likely not saving enough money to gap 19 years before you get your pension.\nSo guys game the overtime system in various ways to just make extra money to spend and save.",
">\n\nUnless they’ve changed the regulations in recent years - which I doubt, because unions never give up anything without a huge fight - pension is based off your total salary, including OT, your last three years. Combine that with those with seniority get first refusal on OT, and there a lot of padding that has always gone on.\nI had a family member, did a ton of OT his last 3 years, retired the day his 20 kicked he - he was early 50s - and got his full pension immediately. Again, this was years ago, and it’s possible it’s changed since, but knowing unions, I doubt it.",
">\n\nHad a cop in my city that would've been working 90 hour weeks, year round to get the salary he pulled. Yet no fraud investigation occurred.",
">\n\nNew Yorker here. All I ever see NYPD do is stand around playing candy crush. One time I was waiting at Essex st\\delancy st station (which is a major hub for homeless people) and a homeless guy kept touching this girl. She went to a group of 4 cops for help and they dead told her to fuck off. There's my tax dollars at work.",
">\n\nThey do a great job abusing performers and those Hispanic women selling fruit and churros though. Totally worth it /s",
">\n\nWell clearly they just need more money",
">\n\nApproached two NYPD officers about a woman a block away who was clearly in distress (underdressed for the weather, intoxicated) and they refused to do anything to help her.",
">\n\nI unironically think they're still on strike over losing the right to shoot minorities. Funny thing is I was partially sympathetic until I realize they're just getting paid to stand there. Thanks mayor adams",
">\n\nThis was a few years ago, pre Adams. But deBlasio wasn’t better."
] |
>
|
[
"\"The department has already spent $411.9 million on overtime in the first six months of fiscal 2023, according to the IBO. That leaves the department with about $43 million in their overtime budget — with six more months to go.\"",
">\n\nI'm sure it has nothing to do with padding officer salaries... At all...",
">\n\nLol. They have to milk that overtime. Your pension is based on your best three years. It’s just a known secret and no one does a damn thing about it.",
">\n\nAs far as Im aware the pension calculations only include your base salary and not overtime.\nThe reason they do this is to just make more money, and part of that is because the pensions aren’t as gravy as most people think.\nI was briefly a cop when I left the military, so I got to see the overtime trucks first hand.\nBasically, you take your scheduled shift off, and a buddy covers you, then they would get their base pay on those shifts, plus days in-lieu. And then they would use the days in lieu to take off their scheduled shifts, which you then cover. So it ends up a vicious cycle where people build up so many days off, that half the shifts are “overtime”. Which is a bit of a misnomer because you’re just paid for the days you take off, but then also paid your base rate for days you cover, effectively doubling your salary if you can do it through a full year.\nBut the biggest reason they do this, is because while the pension plans are 75-80% of your best 3-5 years. You typically can’t draw them until you’re 65.\nWhich means if you’re a young guy like I was, who joined the force at 21, you put in your 25 years to earn your full pension, and then you realize you’re 46 years old and can’t pull your pension for another 19 years without taking significant penalties. And since the union fees are pretty heavy, you’re likely not saving enough money to gap 19 years before you get your pension.\nSo guys game the overtime system in various ways to just make extra money to spend and save.",
">\n\nUnless they’ve changed the regulations in recent years - which I doubt, because unions never give up anything without a huge fight - pension is based off your total salary, including OT, your last three years. Combine that with those with seniority get first refusal on OT, and there a lot of padding that has always gone on.\nI had a family member, did a ton of OT his last 3 years, retired the day his 20 kicked he - he was early 50s - and got his full pension immediately. Again, this was years ago, and it’s possible it’s changed since, but knowing unions, I doubt it.",
">\n\nHad a cop in my city that would've been working 90 hour weeks, year round to get the salary he pulled. Yet no fraud investigation occurred.",
">\n\nNew Yorker here. All I ever see NYPD do is stand around playing candy crush. One time I was waiting at Essex st\\delancy st station (which is a major hub for homeless people) and a homeless guy kept touching this girl. She went to a group of 4 cops for help and they dead told her to fuck off. There's my tax dollars at work.",
">\n\nThey do a great job abusing performers and those Hispanic women selling fruit and churros though. Totally worth it /s",
">\n\nWell clearly they just need more money",
">\n\nApproached two NYPD officers about a woman a block away who was clearly in distress (underdressed for the weather, intoxicated) and they refused to do anything to help her.",
">\n\nI unironically think they're still on strike over losing the right to shoot minorities. Funny thing is I was partially sympathetic until I realize they're just getting paid to stand there. Thanks mayor adams",
">\n\nThis was a few years ago, pre Adams. But deBlasio wasn’t better.",
">\n\nThus far, I'd say DeBlasio was better. Don't get me wrong, he was an oaf, but he, or his administration at least, did accomplish some positive things - universal pre-k, $15 minimum wage, sick leave. \nI honestly don't know what positives Adams has done for \"his city\" at this point. All he seems to do is be front and center for photo ops.\nBut as far as NYPD, they both kowtow to it."
] |
When I hear “vacation” I guess I just assume traveling, so the image of someone flying somewhere just to sleep and play games in their hotel room made me lol
|
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>
Some of my fondest memories of being on vacation is when my kid, spouse, and I spent a morning laying at the beach, an afternoon watching a movie in the hotel room, and an entire evening playing poker.
Lazy days in exotic locations are very satisfying.
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[
"When I hear “vacation” I guess I just assume traveling, so the image of someone flying somewhere just to sleep and play games in their hotel room made me lol"
] |
>
Yep. My gf and I have perfected the art of going away to a cozy cabin or hotel for the weekend and not doing ANYTHING except lay around, eat, watch movies, etc. It’s wonderful. Something about being in a different destination makes it all extraordinary
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[
"When I hear “vacation” I guess I just assume traveling, so the image of someone flying somewhere just to sleep and play games in their hotel room made me lol",
">\n\nSome of my fondest memories of being on vacation is when my kid, spouse, and I spent a morning laying at the beach, an afternoon watching a movie in the hotel room, and an entire evening playing poker. \nLazy days in exotic locations are very satisfying."
] |
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