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My guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve."
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Never informed or can’t read
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[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance."
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Look, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim "Trump Admin national security officials" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.
Trump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...
So either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...
Which aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read"
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Good point
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[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries."
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>
By "never informed" he means tldr.
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[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point"
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So he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao
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[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr."
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“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”
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[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao"
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>
I believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…
|
[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”"
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China was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US
|
[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…"
] |
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I’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.
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[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US"
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thats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.
|
[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration."
] |
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Sure, that's credible.
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[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything."
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It was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it
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[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible."
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>
Well they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.
|
[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it"
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Yeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.
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[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory."
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It’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats
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[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump."
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Realizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats"
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I seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do.
choosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told."
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Florida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.
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[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”."
] |
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Let's take a step back here:
How does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.
He has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.
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[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump."
] |
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Well, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know.
Seems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.
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[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit."
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Bullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.
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[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way."
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I barely knew my military.
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[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing."
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Lies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.
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[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military."
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I call bullshit.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better."
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Yeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit."
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Also maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.
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[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid.."
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He preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work."
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If I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings"
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Yeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't."
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Brought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position."
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He was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess…."
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?"
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Easy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable"
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Not the great excuse they think it is.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care"
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Hurry Donald we need you to play dumb!
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is."
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!"
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here"
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They needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?"
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More like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit"
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That or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂
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[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…"
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Maybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂"
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So that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.
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[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies…."
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That probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month."
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This sounds like a "scandal" of EPIC proportions.
I look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.
I'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their
-checks notes-
third investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska."
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once again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics."
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Because they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first."
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exactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him."
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Trump was/is a walking national threat.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them."
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I don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat."
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That tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now."
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Why would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings."
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The Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.
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[
"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him."
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The Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall."
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It's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane.
But as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes."
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Trump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead."
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They were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead."
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Most likely just didn't listen
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading."
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You’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?
I envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen"
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Why is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told."
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IIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top."
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Bullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page."
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No, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him."
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Yes, the usual - "I was joking."
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,"
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\""
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️"
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The only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him"
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I’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down.
Shooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion."
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I agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting."
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?"
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…"
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Why tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease"
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What kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?"
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace."
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Yes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace.
There sadly are enough Americans that will believe this
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump"
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What evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?
None.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this"
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Imagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone."
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If true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous."
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I guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump."
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We know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV."
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Someone popped his balloon .
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.",
">\n\nWe know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!"
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Even if he actually did read a briefing and saw the word “balloon” you know he it was something birthday related and since it wasn’t his he moved on to executive time
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.",
">\n\nWe know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!",
">\n\nSomeone popped his balloon ."
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lol, this was my theory when it came out it happened during his admin too:
"If you're a reasonable career military official, and you've seen what a frothing mess some of the political people in that admin were every time China was mentioned, would you keep quiet on something that was probably as inconsequential then as this was now? This one only blew up because people spotted it and Biden has created a protective dome of Boring around the continental US."
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.",
">\n\nWe know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!",
">\n\nSomeone popped his balloon .",
">\n\nEven if he actually did read a briefing and saw the word “balloon” you know he it was something birthday related and since it wasn’t his he moved on to executive time"
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They probably didn't include pictures of the balloon, so he didn't read it.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.",
">\n\nWe know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!",
">\n\nSomeone popped his balloon .",
">\n\nEven if he actually did read a briefing and saw the word “balloon” you know he it was something birthday related and since it wasn’t his he moved on to executive time",
">\n\nlol, this was my theory when it came out it happened during his admin too:\n\"If you're a reasonable career military official, and you've seen what a frothing mess some of the political people in that admin were every time China was mentioned, would you keep quiet on something that was probably as inconsequential then as this was now? This one only blew up because people spotted it and Biden has created a protective dome of Boring around the continental US.\""
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“We can’t tell that orange POS or he’ll start WW3”
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.",
">\n\nWe know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!",
">\n\nSomeone popped his balloon .",
">\n\nEven if he actually did read a briefing and saw the word “balloon” you know he it was something birthday related and since it wasn’t his he moved on to executive time",
">\n\nlol, this was my theory when it came out it happened during his admin too:\n\"If you're a reasonable career military official, and you've seen what a frothing mess some of the political people in that admin were every time China was mentioned, would you keep quiet on something that was probably as inconsequential then as this was now? This one only blew up because people spotted it and Biden has created a protective dome of Boring around the continental US.\"",
">\n\nThey probably didn't include pictures of the balloon, so he didn't read it."
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.",
">\n\nWe know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!",
">\n\nSomeone popped his balloon .",
">\n\nEven if he actually did read a briefing and saw the word “balloon” you know he it was something birthday related and since it wasn’t his he moved on to executive time",
">\n\nlol, this was my theory when it came out it happened during his admin too:\n\"If you're a reasonable career military official, and you've seen what a frothing mess some of the political people in that admin were every time China was mentioned, would you keep quiet on something that was probably as inconsequential then as this was now? This one only blew up because people spotted it and Biden has created a protective dome of Boring around the continental US.\"",
">\n\nThey probably didn't include pictures of the balloon, so he didn't read it.",
">\n\n“We can’t tell that orange POS or he’ll start WW3”"
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.",
">\n\nWe know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!",
">\n\nSomeone popped his balloon .",
">\n\nEven if he actually did read a briefing and saw the word “balloon” you know he it was something birthday related and since it wasn’t his he moved on to executive time",
">\n\nlol, this was my theory when it came out it happened during his admin too:\n\"If you're a reasonable career military official, and you've seen what a frothing mess some of the political people in that admin were every time China was mentioned, would you keep quiet on something that was probably as inconsequential then as this was now? This one only blew up because people spotted it and Biden has created a protective dome of Boring around the continental US.\"",
">\n\nThey probably didn't include pictures of the balloon, so he didn't read it.",
">\n\n“We can’t tell that orange POS or he’ll start WW3”",
">\n\nEven if they had, he probably would have tried to blame it on Hillary Clinton's emails."
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Ah. The man who killed the daily natsec brief and forced staff to sprinkle his name into it just so he’d pay a little attention
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.",
">\n\nWe know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!",
">\n\nSomeone popped his balloon .",
">\n\nEven if he actually did read a briefing and saw the word “balloon” you know he it was something birthday related and since it wasn’t his he moved on to executive time",
">\n\nlol, this was my theory when it came out it happened during his admin too:\n\"If you're a reasonable career military official, and you've seen what a frothing mess some of the political people in that admin were every time China was mentioned, would you keep quiet on something that was probably as inconsequential then as this was now? This one only blew up because people spotted it and Biden has created a protective dome of Boring around the continental US.\"",
">\n\nThey probably didn't include pictures of the balloon, so he didn't read it.",
">\n\n“We can’t tell that orange POS or he’ll start WW3”",
">\n\nEven if they had, he probably would have tried to blame it on Hillary Clinton's emails.",
">\n\nThat’s what happens when you ignore your intelligence briefings"
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Always nice to see reporting of statements by liars of what other liars told them. Very informative.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.",
">\n\nWe know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!",
">\n\nSomeone popped his balloon .",
">\n\nEven if he actually did read a briefing and saw the word “balloon” you know he it was something birthday related and since it wasn’t his he moved on to executive time",
">\n\nlol, this was my theory when it came out it happened during his admin too:\n\"If you're a reasonable career military official, and you've seen what a frothing mess some of the political people in that admin were every time China was mentioned, would you keep quiet on something that was probably as inconsequential then as this was now? This one only blew up because people spotted it and Biden has created a protective dome of Boring around the continental US.\"",
">\n\nThey probably didn't include pictures of the balloon, so he didn't read it.",
">\n\n“We can’t tell that orange POS or he’ll start WW3”",
">\n\nEven if they had, he probably would have tried to blame it on Hillary Clinton's emails.",
">\n\nThat’s what happens when you ignore your intelligence briefings",
">\n\nAh. The man who killed the daily natsec brief and forced staff to sprinkle his name into it just so he’d pay a little attention"
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.",
">\n\nWe know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!",
">\n\nSomeone popped his balloon .",
">\n\nEven if he actually did read a briefing and saw the word “balloon” you know he it was something birthday related and since it wasn’t his he moved on to executive time",
">\n\nlol, this was my theory when it came out it happened during his admin too:\n\"If you're a reasonable career military official, and you've seen what a frothing mess some of the political people in that admin were every time China was mentioned, would you keep quiet on something that was probably as inconsequential then as this was now? This one only blew up because people spotted it and Biden has created a protective dome of Boring around the continental US.\"",
">\n\nThey probably didn't include pictures of the balloon, so he didn't read it.",
">\n\n“We can’t tell that orange POS or he’ll start WW3”",
">\n\nEven if they had, he probably would have tried to blame it on Hillary Clinton's emails.",
">\n\nThat’s what happens when you ignore your intelligence briefings",
">\n\nAh. The man who killed the daily natsec brief and forced staff to sprinkle his name into it just so he’d pay a little attention",
">\n\nAlways nice to see reporting of statements by liars of what other liars told them. Very informative."
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The talking point before the balloon was shot down was, would this have happened under Trump, in other words, would China have dared done this?
Whether he knew or not, yeah, they totally had no problem with this antic during his time.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.",
">\n\nWe know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!",
">\n\nSomeone popped his balloon .",
">\n\nEven if he actually did read a briefing and saw the word “balloon” you know he it was something birthday related and since it wasn’t his he moved on to executive time",
">\n\nlol, this was my theory when it came out it happened during his admin too:\n\"If you're a reasonable career military official, and you've seen what a frothing mess some of the political people in that admin were every time China was mentioned, would you keep quiet on something that was probably as inconsequential then as this was now? This one only blew up because people spotted it and Biden has created a protective dome of Boring around the continental US.\"",
">\n\nThey probably didn't include pictures of the balloon, so he didn't read it.",
">\n\n“We can’t tell that orange POS or he’ll start WW3”",
">\n\nEven if they had, he probably would have tried to blame it on Hillary Clinton's emails.",
">\n\nThat’s what happens when you ignore your intelligence briefings",
">\n\nAh. The man who killed the daily natsec brief and forced staff to sprinkle his name into it just so he’d pay a little attention",
">\n\nAlways nice to see reporting of statements by liars of what other liars told them. Very informative.",
">\n\nIt was in those briefs he never bothered to look at."
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He only believes information from his “international” handlers
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.",
">\n\nWe know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!",
">\n\nSomeone popped his balloon .",
">\n\nEven if he actually did read a briefing and saw the word “balloon” you know he it was something birthday related and since it wasn’t his he moved on to executive time",
">\n\nlol, this was my theory when it came out it happened during his admin too:\n\"If you're a reasonable career military official, and you've seen what a frothing mess some of the political people in that admin were every time China was mentioned, would you keep quiet on something that was probably as inconsequential then as this was now? This one only blew up because people spotted it and Biden has created a protective dome of Boring around the continental US.\"",
">\n\nThey probably didn't include pictures of the balloon, so he didn't read it.",
">\n\n“We can’t tell that orange POS or he’ll start WW3”",
">\n\nEven if they had, he probably would have tried to blame it on Hillary Clinton's emails.",
">\n\nThat’s what happens when you ignore your intelligence briefings",
">\n\nAh. The man who killed the daily natsec brief and forced staff to sprinkle his name into it just so he’d pay a little attention",
">\n\nAlways nice to see reporting of statements by liars of what other liars told them. Very informative.",
">\n\nIt was in those briefs he never bothered to look at.",
">\n\nThe talking point before the balloon was shot down was, would this have happened under Trump, in other words, would China have dared done this?\nWhether he knew or not, yeah, they totally had no problem with this antic during his time."
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.",
">\n\nWe know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!",
">\n\nSomeone popped his balloon .",
">\n\nEven if he actually did read a briefing and saw the word “balloon” you know he it was something birthday related and since it wasn’t his he moved on to executive time",
">\n\nlol, this was my theory when it came out it happened during his admin too:\n\"If you're a reasonable career military official, and you've seen what a frothing mess some of the political people in that admin were every time China was mentioned, would you keep quiet on something that was probably as inconsequential then as this was now? This one only blew up because people spotted it and Biden has created a protective dome of Boring around the continental US.\"",
">\n\nThey probably didn't include pictures of the balloon, so he didn't read it.",
">\n\n“We can’t tell that orange POS or he’ll start WW3”",
">\n\nEven if they had, he probably would have tried to blame it on Hillary Clinton's emails.",
">\n\nThat’s what happens when you ignore your intelligence briefings",
">\n\nAh. The man who killed the daily natsec brief and forced staff to sprinkle his name into it just so he’d pay a little attention",
">\n\nAlways nice to see reporting of statements by liars of what other liars told them. Very informative.",
">\n\nIt was in those briefs he never bothered to look at.",
">\n\nThe talking point before the balloon was shot down was, would this have happened under Trump, in other words, would China have dared done this?\nWhether he knew or not, yeah, they totally had no problem with this antic during his time.",
">\n\nHe only believes information from his “international” handlers"
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It wasn’t shown to him in a graph made with a sharpie so he didn’t pay attention.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.",
">\n\nWe know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!",
">\n\nSomeone popped his balloon .",
">\n\nEven if he actually did read a briefing and saw the word “balloon” you know he it was something birthday related and since it wasn’t his he moved on to executive time",
">\n\nlol, this was my theory when it came out it happened during his admin too:\n\"If you're a reasonable career military official, and you've seen what a frothing mess some of the political people in that admin were every time China was mentioned, would you keep quiet on something that was probably as inconsequential then as this was now? This one only blew up because people spotted it and Biden has created a protective dome of Boring around the continental US.\"",
">\n\nThey probably didn't include pictures of the balloon, so he didn't read it.",
">\n\n“We can’t tell that orange POS or he’ll start WW3”",
">\n\nEven if they had, he probably would have tried to blame it on Hillary Clinton's emails.",
">\n\nThat’s what happens when you ignore your intelligence briefings",
">\n\nAh. The man who killed the daily natsec brief and forced staff to sprinkle his name into it just so he’d pay a little attention",
">\n\nAlways nice to see reporting of statements by liars of what other liars told them. Very informative.",
">\n\nIt was in those briefs he never bothered to look at.",
">\n\nThe talking point before the balloon was shot down was, would this have happened under Trump, in other words, would China have dared done this?\nWhether he knew or not, yeah, they totally had no problem with this antic during his time.",
">\n\nHe only believes information from his “international” handlers",
">\n\nIt's a well known fact that Trump didn't read his daily intelligence briefings and really liked graphs."
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Trump-backed election denier Mike Waltz said Trump was “never informed” but Biden is incompetent and mismanaged this? Say it ain’t so! I, for one, am shocked /s
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.",
">\n\nWe know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!",
">\n\nSomeone popped his balloon .",
">\n\nEven if he actually did read a briefing and saw the word “balloon” you know he it was something birthday related and since it wasn’t his he moved on to executive time",
">\n\nlol, this was my theory when it came out it happened during his admin too:\n\"If you're a reasonable career military official, and you've seen what a frothing mess some of the political people in that admin were every time China was mentioned, would you keep quiet on something that was probably as inconsequential then as this was now? This one only blew up because people spotted it and Biden has created a protective dome of Boring around the continental US.\"",
">\n\nThey probably didn't include pictures of the balloon, so he didn't read it.",
">\n\n“We can’t tell that orange POS or he’ll start WW3”",
">\n\nEven if they had, he probably would have tried to blame it on Hillary Clinton's emails.",
">\n\nThat’s what happens when you ignore your intelligence briefings",
">\n\nAh. The man who killed the daily natsec brief and forced staff to sprinkle his name into it just so he’d pay a little attention",
">\n\nAlways nice to see reporting of statements by liars of what other liars told them. Very informative.",
">\n\nIt was in those briefs he never bothered to look at.",
">\n\nThe talking point before the balloon was shot down was, would this have happened under Trump, in other words, would China have dared done this?\nWhether he knew or not, yeah, they totally had no problem with this antic during his time.",
">\n\nHe only believes information from his “international” handlers",
">\n\nIt's a well known fact that Trump didn't read his daily intelligence briefings and really liked graphs.",
">\n\nIt wasn’t shown to him in a graph made with a sharpie so he didn’t pay attention."
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.",
">\n\nWe know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!",
">\n\nSomeone popped his balloon .",
">\n\nEven if he actually did read a briefing and saw the word “balloon” you know he it was something birthday related and since it wasn’t his he moved on to executive time",
">\n\nlol, this was my theory when it came out it happened during his admin too:\n\"If you're a reasonable career military official, and you've seen what a frothing mess some of the political people in that admin were every time China was mentioned, would you keep quiet on something that was probably as inconsequential then as this was now? This one only blew up because people spotted it and Biden has created a protective dome of Boring around the continental US.\"",
">\n\nThey probably didn't include pictures of the balloon, so he didn't read it.",
">\n\n“We can’t tell that orange POS or he’ll start WW3”",
">\n\nEven if they had, he probably would have tried to blame it on Hillary Clinton's emails.",
">\n\nThat’s what happens when you ignore your intelligence briefings",
">\n\nAh. The man who killed the daily natsec brief and forced staff to sprinkle his name into it just so he’d pay a little attention",
">\n\nAlways nice to see reporting of statements by liars of what other liars told them. Very informative.",
">\n\nIt was in those briefs he never bothered to look at.",
">\n\nThe talking point before the balloon was shot down was, would this have happened under Trump, in other words, would China have dared done this?\nWhether he knew or not, yeah, they totally had no problem with this antic during his time.",
">\n\nHe only believes information from his “international” handlers",
">\n\nIt's a well known fact that Trump didn't read his daily intelligence briefings and really liked graphs.",
">\n\nIt wasn’t shown to him in a graph made with a sharpie so he didn’t pay attention.",
">\n\nTrump-backed election denier Mike Waltz said Trump was “never informed” but Biden is incompetent and mismanaged this? Say it ain’t so! I, for one, am shocked /s"
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With his lack of impulse control, I'm sure there were a lot of things DoD, DHS, HS etc. never told Trump. I shudder to think what we will learn in coming months and years about what happened while Trump was out golfing or tweeting in front of the tv.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.",
">\n\nWe know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!",
">\n\nSomeone popped his balloon .",
">\n\nEven if he actually did read a briefing and saw the word “balloon” you know he it was something birthday related and since it wasn’t his he moved on to executive time",
">\n\nlol, this was my theory when it came out it happened during his admin too:\n\"If you're a reasonable career military official, and you've seen what a frothing mess some of the political people in that admin were every time China was mentioned, would you keep quiet on something that was probably as inconsequential then as this was now? This one only blew up because people spotted it and Biden has created a protective dome of Boring around the continental US.\"",
">\n\nThey probably didn't include pictures of the balloon, so he didn't read it.",
">\n\n“We can’t tell that orange POS or he’ll start WW3”",
">\n\nEven if they had, he probably would have tried to blame it on Hillary Clinton's emails.",
">\n\nThat’s what happens when you ignore your intelligence briefings",
">\n\nAh. The man who killed the daily natsec brief and forced staff to sprinkle his name into it just so he’d pay a little attention",
">\n\nAlways nice to see reporting of statements by liars of what other liars told them. Very informative.",
">\n\nIt was in those briefs he never bothered to look at.",
">\n\nThe talking point before the balloon was shot down was, would this have happened under Trump, in other words, would China have dared done this?\nWhether he knew or not, yeah, they totally had no problem with this antic during his time.",
">\n\nHe only believes information from his “international” handlers",
">\n\nIt's a well known fact that Trump didn't read his daily intelligence briefings and really liked graphs.",
">\n\nIt wasn’t shown to him in a graph made with a sharpie so he didn’t pay attention.",
">\n\nTrump-backed election denier Mike Waltz said Trump was “never informed” but Biden is incompetent and mismanaged this? Say it ain’t so! I, for one, am shocked /s",
">\n\nVery concerning."
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.",
">\n\nWe know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!",
">\n\nSomeone popped his balloon .",
">\n\nEven if he actually did read a briefing and saw the word “balloon” you know he it was something birthday related and since it wasn’t his he moved on to executive time",
">\n\nlol, this was my theory when it came out it happened during his admin too:\n\"If you're a reasonable career military official, and you've seen what a frothing mess some of the political people in that admin were every time China was mentioned, would you keep quiet on something that was probably as inconsequential then as this was now? This one only blew up because people spotted it and Biden has created a protective dome of Boring around the continental US.\"",
">\n\nThey probably didn't include pictures of the balloon, so he didn't read it.",
">\n\n“We can’t tell that orange POS or he’ll start WW3”",
">\n\nEven if they had, he probably would have tried to blame it on Hillary Clinton's emails.",
">\n\nThat’s what happens when you ignore your intelligence briefings",
">\n\nAh. The man who killed the daily natsec brief and forced staff to sprinkle his name into it just so he’d pay a little attention",
">\n\nAlways nice to see reporting of statements by liars of what other liars told them. Very informative.",
">\n\nIt was in those briefs he never bothered to look at.",
">\n\nThe talking point before the balloon was shot down was, would this have happened under Trump, in other words, would China have dared done this?\nWhether he knew or not, yeah, they totally had no problem with this antic during his time.",
">\n\nHe only believes information from his “international” handlers",
">\n\nIt's a well known fact that Trump didn't read his daily intelligence briefings and really liked graphs.",
">\n\nIt wasn’t shown to him in a graph made with a sharpie so he didn’t pay attention.",
">\n\nTrump-backed election denier Mike Waltz said Trump was “never informed” but Biden is incompetent and mismanaged this? Say it ain’t so! I, for one, am shocked /s",
">\n\nVery concerning.",
">\n\nWith his lack of impulse control, I'm sure there were a lot of things DoD, DHS, HS etc. never told Trump. I shudder to think what we will learn in coming months and years about what happened while Trump was out golfing or tweeting in front of the tv."
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If we believed literally everything he said, he would essentially be a perfect human being that has never made a single error ever.
He’s stated he’s the richest person, the physically strongest person, the smartest person, the most honest person, the best athlete etc etc.
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.",
">\n\nWe know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!",
">\n\nSomeone popped his balloon .",
">\n\nEven if he actually did read a briefing and saw the word “balloon” you know he it was something birthday related and since it wasn’t his he moved on to executive time",
">\n\nlol, this was my theory when it came out it happened during his admin too:\n\"If you're a reasonable career military official, and you've seen what a frothing mess some of the political people in that admin were every time China was mentioned, would you keep quiet on something that was probably as inconsequential then as this was now? This one only blew up because people spotted it and Biden has created a protective dome of Boring around the continental US.\"",
">\n\nThey probably didn't include pictures of the balloon, so he didn't read it.",
">\n\n“We can’t tell that orange POS or he’ll start WW3”",
">\n\nEven if they had, he probably would have tried to blame it on Hillary Clinton's emails.",
">\n\nThat’s what happens when you ignore your intelligence briefings",
">\n\nAh. The man who killed the daily natsec brief and forced staff to sprinkle his name into it just so he’d pay a little attention",
">\n\nAlways nice to see reporting of statements by liars of what other liars told them. Very informative.",
">\n\nIt was in those briefs he never bothered to look at.",
">\n\nThe talking point before the balloon was shot down was, would this have happened under Trump, in other words, would China have dared done this?\nWhether he knew or not, yeah, they totally had no problem with this antic during his time.",
">\n\nHe only believes information from his “international” handlers",
">\n\nIt's a well known fact that Trump didn't read his daily intelligence briefings and really liked graphs.",
">\n\nIt wasn’t shown to him in a graph made with a sharpie so he didn’t pay attention.",
">\n\nTrump-backed election denier Mike Waltz said Trump was “never informed” but Biden is incompetent and mismanaged this? Say it ain’t so! I, for one, am shocked /s",
">\n\nVery concerning.",
">\n\nWith his lack of impulse control, I'm sure there were a lot of things DoD, DHS, HS etc. never told Trump. I shudder to think what we will learn in coming months and years about what happened while Trump was out golfing or tweeting in front of the tv.",
">\n\nIs “fake disinformation”—information?"
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"i bet you a billion dollars it was in one of his daily briefings he didnt read.\nEdit: the other option would be he called China, where he pays most of his taxes, and asked Winnie about the balloons, and believed china's lie over American Intelligence.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprising if he never read or skimmed through a lot of briefings.",
">\n\nGod. He probably never read the thing unless someone showed him a picture and brief explanation of what the picture was.",
">\n\nHe was famous from innumerable sources for being so fucking dumb that literally nothing made sense to him and he never bothered to read anything. They had to condense briefings down to one page and tried to mention his name as much as possible because that was the only thing that would get his attention.\nHe doesn't know a single thing about history or the world or other countries so they couldn't even have an equal and useful discussion about any of the intelligence or issues of the day, like talking to a dumb and angry 3 year old that they all had to babysit and manage so he didn't blow up the world",
">\n\nI think I found an intel briefing.\nOH NO! RUSSIA is moving troops up to the UKRAINIAN border! Can you, President TRUMP, CIRCLE all 5 DIVISIONS with your SHARPIE?",
">\n\nThere were several of these put out by The Onion",
">\n\nThat's so funny, I don't know how I didn't see them before, I check out The Onion nearly every day",
">\n\nBecause he said he never read briefings and didn’t know anything unless it was read to him. How the US survived 4+ years of this douchebag as President…",
">\n\nIt's largely how we survived. He doesn't like working and he never really did that part of the job. He was too lazy and stupid to really fuck things up. We have accounts that aides would swap out proposed orders so he wouldn't sign them. He didn't notice until the story was leaked.",
">\n\nHowever, he has shown how easily institutions can be dismantled. The next GOP president will be hardworking, intelligent and understand how government works, he will dismantle the Republic in a single term and replace it with corporate autocracy. The Pompeos and Barrs already have a plan.",
">\n\nExactly. Your comment deserves more attention because this is the exact plan for republicans. Also i want to add they will plan on maneuvering into lifetime appointments for the president and his appointees regardless of the law. They want a authoritarianism style of rule and will stop at nothing to get it.",
">\n\nBut power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!",
">\n\nHe was a clueless POTUS without the brain necessary to handle the position. All he did was sit on his ass, watch Fox News, and order Diet Coke. It’s a wonder our country survived his four years of utter incompetence.",
">\n\nThe country survived, but tens of thousands died needlessly as a result of his incompetence and neglect of the ever growing opioid crisis and Covid, culminating in the largest drop in left expectancy the county had since WW2.",
">\n\nWe aren’t even a year above the avg life for the world anymore, and most 1st world European countries beat us in life expectancy.",
">\n\nWell all the school shootings bring that stat down...",
">\n\nHe could either by lying because he’s a liar, or he could be telling truth because he overlooked it because he’s a dumbass. I’m torn between both choices.",
">\n\nOr because he's senile and forgot",
">\n\nOr because he's a moron and thought they meant birthday balloons",
">\n\nGod dammit that should just be a sarcastic remark but it could actually be plausible",
">\n\nI’m thinking maybe there was a lot he was never informed of. Good thing too.",
">\n\nPut it in the bottom half of the briefing but don't bring it up at the meeting. The world is safer, and your ass is covered.",
">\n\nHey, maybe they used the ol' Rhodesia solution!",
">\n\n“According to a Florida Republican,” is all you need to know.",
">\n\nFlorida Man Yells at ~~Cloud~~ Balloon",
">\n\nWow, if no one in the Trump administration knew about these balloons at the time, it goes to show just how incompetent they were.\nUnless, as is most likely, they did know, and they just let it happen. Maybe that's how Ivanka got those patents.\nAlso, \"fake disinformation\"... Is that going to be his new catch phrase instead of \"fake news\"?\nThe GOP is beyond useless.",
">\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.",
">\n\n\nAs opposed to real disinformation maybe.\n\n... So \"fake disinformation\" = real information?\nIf we're following the double-negative rule and all...",
">\n\n\"They don't think it be like it is, but it do.\"",
">\n\nLet’s see. Either:\nThe Pentagon, the headquarters for the Department of Defense which is responsible for all areas of national security and the armed forces, decided not to tell the the most powerful man in America and Command in Chief, about a foreign country sending a remotely piloted aircraft that could be a surveillance device into their airspace that’s flying across civilian populations and potential high level intelligence infrastructure. \nOr, they did tell him and they’re once again adding to a mountain of lies, which probably has a summit about the same altitude as the balloon.\nOn three occasions…",
">\n\nThat’s not the summit … that’s the base camp! 😆",
">\n\nNot like he really cared. Doubt he even knew what day it was without the tv telling him because his favorite reality shows weren’t on.",
">\n\nThey would have had to draw balloons and a diagram for tRump to understand!",
">\n\nAnd then he would draw boobs on the balloons with his Sharpie, just like he did with Hurricane Dorian.",
">\n\nMore like he got the briefings but didn't pay attention or care. The idiot needed briefings to be like reading a picture book",
">\n\nAnd if he didn’t do his job relative to the balloons during his presidency then what other jobs didn’t he do because he didn’t care or didn’t listen¿",
">\n\nCovid for starters 🤣, ensuring a peaceful transition of power after losing the election and court challenges, those are pretty big by themselves, do you need more, user bunch of numbers???",
">\n\nOkay, but that’s worse. They get that that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nTrump didn't get informed about a lot of things because everyone knew he was dumb and crazy.\nFor example, Kash Patel pretended to be a Ukraine expert for the WH. The actual Ukraine expert got edged out because Trump had already met Kash and Trumps handlers didn't want to confuse him.\nThat's how you treat a child or a geriatric entering his second childhood as senility sets in. That's how they treated Trump.",
">\n\nSo he is either not a leader, or he's an incompetent leader",
">\n\nTranslation: Trump slept through the PDB for 4 years straight.",
">\n\n\"And according to several Trump Admin national security officials - they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon.\" \nAccording to Rep Michael Waltz. Who was a fresh congressman in 2019. And only has anonymous sources for his claim. And those anonymous sources would not necessarily know anything about what Trump was or wasn’t briefed on.\nIt’s incredible how bad journalism has become.",
">\n\nYou are right. I read the article, unlike most of the commenters in this thread, and it left so many obvious questions unanswered.",
">\n\nBullshit. He just wasn't paying attention.",
">\n\nFucking Liar...",
">\n\nIt was probably kept from him so he wouldn't throw ketchup on the wall and try to nuke the balloons and china right after.\nWith his lack of functional intelligence I assume there were several people deciding what he should know and what he shouldn't.",
">\n\nTrump was not a competent Commander in Chief.",
">\n\nIn the wise words of Chidi: Okay, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?",
">\n\nIt was probably in the intel briefings that he didn't find important.",
">\n\nSo more gross negligence from the Trump Administration.....",
">\n\nDid any one expect\nHim to be honest",
">\n\nSome of his followers think he's never told a lie. He just jokes and kids a lot. In fairness they think the Bible is literal and ignores all those contradictions too.",
">\n\nHe said he always knew more than the generals.",
">\n\nDidn’t tell him because he would’ve gone to war or tried to nuke the balloon",
">\n\nMemo must have gotten lost in the swamp.",
">\n\nNo other president ever had bigger beauty fuller spy balloons",
">\n\nTrump was probably too busy watching FOX and making sure they were singing his praises, than to be bothered by a Chinese spy balloon.",
">\n\nIf he would’ve found out, what are the chances he would’ve bull in a China shop’ed us into WW3 (no pun intended). Maybe his handlers knew better.",
">\n\nHim not being informed is not the gotcha this congressman thinks it is.",
">\n\nThere isn’t a large enough number for the amount of stuff trump isn’t informed about. The man is a literal clown in a suit. Evades paying taxes, lies about everything, and acts like a spoiled 16 year old.",
">\n\nYou gave him an extra 10 years he didn’t deserve.",
">\n\nMy guess is they tried to tell him he either did not read the daily memo or refused to listen because it did not interest him at the moment. Both things he routinely did during security briefings he would often be paying attention to tv or talking over people about his latest grievance.",
">\n\nNever informed or can’t read",
">\n\nLook, Representative Michael Waltz - Florida Republican, when you claim \"Trump Admin national security officials\" weren't informed by the Pentagon you create a problem.\nTrump supposedly rebuilt the military in those 4 years, and the Pentagon unless I'm mistaken is part of the military...\nSo either Trump is a liar, those 'officials' were liars/incompetent, or the Pentagon had not informed the Trump administration because the US military didn't trust the Trump Administration...\nWhich aligns perfectly with him saying he didn't trust the FBI/CIA/CDC/etc. and instead preferred US adversaries.",
">\n\nGood point",
">\n\nBy \"never informed\" he means tldr.",
">\n\nSo he either didn’t read the briefings, or they didn’t tell him because they were afraid he would flip the lid off the big red button lmao",
">\n\n“Why would they spy when I sold them everything they wanted to know?”",
">\n\nI believe they didn’t tell him. Also doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…",
">\n\nChina was just looking at all the property they have bought up in the US",
">\n\nI’m hoping there was a lot of info that intelligence services sat on because they didn’t trust anyone in the Trump administration.",
">\n\nthats cause the adults didnt trust trump with anything.",
">\n\nSure, that's credible.",
">\n\nIt was in his intel report, sadly he dropped his hamberder right on it",
">\n\nWell they probably figured he would try to nuke it while over American territory.",
">\n\nYeah, it was common knowledge you slept through the intel briefings trump.",
">\n\nIt’s not in the Pentagon’s budget to make a pop-up book for Trump to flip through on daily national security threats",
">\n\nRealizing he was potentially compromised, I suspect there were a few things he wasn’t told.",
">\n\nI seem to remember something about trump not reading the daily briefings like the real presidents do. \nchoosing to not read the brief is not the same as “they didn’t tell me”.",
">\n\nFlorida Republican lies for his Messiah Trump.",
">\n\nLet's take a step back here:\nHow does Waltz know Trump was not informed? He wasn't part of the White House staff.\nHe has no way of knowing for sure what he is claiming. He is making hearsay claims. They hold literally no merit.",
">\n\nWell, if the reports are true, they knew and didn’t do or say anything, or didn’t know. \nSeems like this is damage control more than accusatory, though doesn’t look good either way.",
">\n\nBullshit. And if that's true how fucking embarrassing.",
">\n\nI barely knew my military.",
">\n\nLies lies sweet sounding lies. But we all know better.",
">\n\nI call bullshit.",
">\n\nYeah sure he didn't lol, of course you guys would say that, I swear you think we're stupid..",
">\n\nAlso maybe officials didn't trust him to not blab about this shit or thowout some Willey coyote BS plan that would distract from real work.",
">\n\nHe preferred crayons and connect the dots over briefings",
">\n\nIf I'm in a job, and people don't tell me stuff bc they think im too much of an idiot and would react poorly, i'd try to correct that image immediately. Trump still doesn't understand everyone thought he was a fucking fool and he was likely the reason he wasn't told, if indeed he wasn't.",
">\n\nYeah I would probably be too embarrassed and quit lol. If that’s the case there’s no way I should be in that position.",
">\n\nBrought up in all the security meetings he skipped I guess….",
">\n\nHe was such a weak president that his own pentagon didn't tell him about spy balloons?",
">\n\nBelievable",
">\n\nEasy, he saw it and threw it away. If it’s not in twitter, it’s not worth his attention. He was informed but got negligent to care",
">\n\nNot the great excuse they think it is.",
">\n\nHurry Donald we need you to play dumb!",
">\n\nThere's no playing involved here",
">\n\nAnd you think this absolves you Donny-boy?",
">\n\nThey needed to include his name, as often as possible in the briefings, so he would stay focused reading them. What a piece of shit",
">\n\nMore like “never bothered to read” threat intelligence reports or anything that was put in front of him that was longer than the length of a tweet…",
">\n\nThat or the pentagon didn’t trust him with that information 😂",
">\n\nMaybe if he had paid attention to his dailies….",
">\n\nSo that means he was briefed about it in person twice a day for half a month.",
">\n\nThat probably saved us from nuking a balloon over Nebraska.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a \"scandal\" of EPIC proportions.\nI look forward to the testimony under oath from Trump-appointed intel officials about this failure related to national security.\nI'm sure that the Republican House will get on that after their \n-checks notes- \nthird investigation into Hunter Biden's dick pics.",
">\n\nonce again proving that the GOP is more concerned with what's in people's pants than actually putting the country first.",
">\n\nBecause they treated him like a child and decided it was safer to keep information from him.",
">\n\nexactamundo. didn't that even come out? didnt kelly withhold things from dumpster donnie all the time? simply because donald wasn't cognitively up to speed to comprehend them.",
">\n\nTrump was/is a walking national threat.",
">\n\nI don't know what the fuck Merrick Garland is taking his sweet ass time about now.",
">\n\nThat tends to happen when you never attend security briefings.",
">\n\nWhy would they bother to try? It wasn't about him.",
">\n\nThe Pentagon and the IC learned early on that briefing Trump was pointless. Talking to Trump is like talking to a mirror reflection of a wall.",
">\n\nThe Toddler Defense: he’s too stupid to have known better? That’s why it’s not his fault, you see. No, we don’t regret giving this man the nukes.",
">\n\nIt's possible - not unreasonable to hold back potentially sensitive information from someone who suggesting nuking a hurricane. \nBut as mentioned, what's way more likely is that he was informed and just wasn't paying attention or didn't read it. Guy doesn't have a lot of mental overhead.",
">\n\nTrump is on record saying he believed Putin over our IC about Russian election interference. He badmouths the CIA and others in our intelligence community all the time. Trump had a bank account in China while President and pays most of his taxes there. He was most likely briefed on the overflights but chose to believe Jinping instead.",
">\n\nThey were probably mentioned in those worthless intelligence briefings you didn’t waste time reading.",
">\n\nMost likely just didn't listen",
">\n\nYou’re telling me that the intelligence community kept information from a chief executive that had been saber rattling for war with China since before his election during a pandemic he was trying to blame on them?\nI envy those who hear the tale of their heroism decades from now when it can be safely told.",
">\n\nWhy is the argument always that Trump was too stupid to pay attention? It is not a good argument. Either the entire DOD was incompotent, or Trump couldn't appoint a good Secretary of Defense. In all cases, he's the president and those problems rise to the top.",
">\n\nIIRC, Trump needed his daily briefing to be one page or less and include pictures. Very possible that some key information was left off his briefings because they weren't able to fit in that page.",
">\n\nBullshit. Just because he decided to watch Fox News instead of reading his briefings does not mean they didn't inform him.",
">\n\nNo, it doesn’t. It would have been a regional decision made by competent officials who understood the level of threat and understood that telling Trump was much more dangerous,",
">\n\nYes, the usual - \"I was joking.\"",
">\n\nWho’s on first? ⚾️",
">\n\nHe would ordered the military to nuke it or something if they had told him",
">\n\nThe only question is why is this a discussion about his thinking process. He is not worthy of this discussion.",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure this balloon only got the attention at the level that it did was because the public was aware of it and it became a subject of conversation on the cable news networks. If that wouldn’t have happened, I wouldn’t have been surprised if we would have just continued to track and observe it and not have bothered to shoot it down. \nShooting it down seems like an action we were forced into because of the news coverage it was getting.",
">\n\nI agree that’s a possibility. Not sure how much difference there is between a surveillance balloon at 60 thousand feet and a spy satellite, but we sure have several,of the latter. Will the Chinese decide to take out one of those?",
">\n\nYou know, you don’t have to worry about divulging classified information or advertising dysfunction within the national security apparatus to our global rivals if you’re just making shit up out of whole cloth in order to win the media cycle…",
">\n\nPlease",
">\n\nWhy tell the buffoon about Chinese balloons when he’d probably just order it to be nuked?",
">\n\nWhat kind of loser President isn’t informed about spy balloons over his fucking airspace.",
">\n\nTrump",
">\n\nYes, the commander in chief of the armed forces would never have been informed about a foreign military object entering US airspace. \nThere sadly are enough Americans that will believe this",
">\n\nWhat evidence do you have that it was a foreign MILITARY Object?\nNone.",
">\n\nImagine if he had been told, he would have put on a big ass show and make us look ridiculous.",
">\n\nIf true, probably was a good idea not to inform “hey can we nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else” Donald Trump.",
">\n\nI guarantee you he was informed. He wasn't listening to his intelligence briefings. He was too busy watching TV.",
">\n\nWe know that the Donald isn’t familiar with fact checking. He’s just so pathetic!",
">\n\nSomeone popped his balloon .",
">\n\nEven if he actually did read a briefing and saw the word “balloon” you know he it was something birthday related and since it wasn’t his he moved on to executive time",
">\n\nlol, this was my theory when it came out it happened during his admin too:\n\"If you're a reasonable career military official, and you've seen what a frothing mess some of the political people in that admin were every time China was mentioned, would you keep quiet on something that was probably as inconsequential then as this was now? This one only blew up because people spotted it and Biden has created a protective dome of Boring around the continental US.\"",
">\n\nThey probably didn't include pictures of the balloon, so he didn't read it.",
">\n\n“We can’t tell that orange POS or he’ll start WW3”",
">\n\nEven if they had, he probably would have tried to blame it on Hillary Clinton's emails.",
">\n\nThat’s what happens when you ignore your intelligence briefings",
">\n\nAh. The man who killed the daily natsec brief and forced staff to sprinkle his name into it just so he’d pay a little attention",
">\n\nAlways nice to see reporting of statements by liars of what other liars told them. Very informative.",
">\n\nIt was in those briefs he never bothered to look at.",
">\n\nThe talking point before the balloon was shot down was, would this have happened under Trump, in other words, would China have dared done this?\nWhether he knew or not, yeah, they totally had no problem with this antic during his time.",
">\n\nHe only believes information from his “international” handlers",
">\n\nIt's a well known fact that Trump didn't read his daily intelligence briefings and really liked graphs.",
">\n\nIt wasn’t shown to him in a graph made with a sharpie so he didn’t pay attention.",
">\n\nTrump-backed election denier Mike Waltz said Trump was “never informed” but Biden is incompetent and mismanaged this? Say it ain’t so! I, for one, am shocked /s",
">\n\nVery concerning.",
">\n\nWith his lack of impulse control, I'm sure there were a lot of things DoD, DHS, HS etc. never told Trump. I shudder to think what we will learn in coming months and years about what happened while Trump was out golfing or tweeting in front of the tv.",
">\n\nIs “fake disinformation”—information?",
">\n\nIf we believed literally everything he said, he would essentially be a perfect human being that has never made a single error ever. \nHe’s stated he’s the richest person, the physically strongest person, the smartest person, the most honest person, the best athlete etc etc."
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