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https://youtu.be/EMJ-GYWLU5M	/r/videos/comments/qcclpl/wind_turbine_near_my_home_town_the_blade_tips_are/	[ "looks so slow ....", "You’re gonna get cancer!", "You don't know that half of it... there were another 98 all around me!", "those things are so cool!", "You can almost see how the cancer is oozing from it /s" ]	6	videos	Wind turbine near my home town. The blade tips are 70m/75yd each and moving at 170kph/105mph.
https://youtu.be/S8aeTfDstU4	/r/videos/comments/qcco1w/jerry_springer_im_a_blind_country_pimp/	[ "ahhhh, the old days when TV was actually fun...even the title of the episode was \"Jerry's Equal Opportunity Show\"", "That man was the mayor of Cincinnati.", "I really really REALLY want to see the audience commentary on this one" ]	3	videos	Jerry Springer- “I’m a blind country pimp”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bToHxwGcK2A&t=333s	/r/videos/comments/qcczcy/taking_the_new_york_city_subway_in_june_1979/	[ "1) less overweight people\n\n2) style is so much better now\n\n3) there's some ugly pant suits in the '70s", "How did these people survive the subway without phones? I only saw a couple books.", "It truly was a completely different world, if I took someone from this video and showed them our style of living today they'd be dumfounded", "My time to shine! I have family and friends in NYC so we used to visit them all the time in the 80s and 90s. For anyone who thinks NYC is crime ridden now, that's nothing compared to how it was back then. I remember when it was really grimy and disgusting with crime everywhere! Times Square was full of adult entertainment, hence the \"Peep Shows\" and \"XXX movies\" you see in the video. Subways had graffiti everywhere on them. NYC nearly went bankrupt in the 70s and was really falling apart. Many older NYC residents remember Ed \"How am I doing?\" Koch who was mayor at the time.", "Crazy that my first thought was “where the fuck are these people’s masks?”", "We used to stare off into the middle-distance with a dead look in our eyes. Avoiding eye contact with everyone else in the carriage was vital.", "Same brand of mental defect persists today, crowding around the doors so that people are forced to get off more slowly. The crowders get on later than if they had stood a few inches farther away from the doors' center and the whole system is slower. Daily rider for 22 years, the percentage of people showing basic common sense and courtesy on this is vanishingly small.", "I came here expecting disco music.", "You couldn't get fat, the clothes wouldn't let you.", "Bernard Goetz shot four kids that tried to intimidate/rob him on the NYC subway with a pistol he was carrying illegally in 1984 and a jury acquitted him. I guess you could say, people were so fed up with crime they sympathized with what he did." ]	10	videos	Taking the New York City Subway in June 1979
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qcd7fd/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qcd7fd/deleted_by_user/	[ "Wait whaaaaaa…..?", "Damn, now I only have 7 days to live.", "Great choice of weirdness" ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://vimeo.com/534502421	/r/videos/comments/qcdky9/save_ralph_a_short_film_with_taika_waititi/	[ "Just wow. Almost brought me to tears.", "I’ve seen this before and I can’t bring myself to watch it again. \nBut this was the point that solidified my anti position on animal cruelty in the hardest of concrete. I will now NEVER buy or support ANYTHING that has anything REMOTELY associated with what is depicted in this video. \nIn fact, I will actively and completely support any and all efforts to end it, in whatever measure I can.\n\nFuck everything about this.", "That's fucking grim", "Please check the products in your shower and bathroom to see if they have a \\cruelty free\\ symbol on the packaging. \n\nit should look like a rabbit.", "I have already seen this and no, I will not watch it again.", "I'd rather watch 2 hours of rotten.com archive footage", "Any solid list of cruelty free products you may be aware of?", "Sorry to hear that. Would you please at least take a look at the products on your shower to make sure they’re cruelty free ?", "Yeah pretty sure they all are. Poor bunnies", "Ive worked in animal testing facilities. Its as grim as this portrays. Although, the animals are usually young and incinerated after a single test. More like being living a mundane life for a short time, acutely irritated, and then dead soon after. \n\nOur food lives a similar life.", "I think the food has it worse in some ways, they live into adulthood before being killed for their meat.\n\nTheir lives are pretty grim, uncomfortable. But at least they aren’t tested on", "Not a ~~Taika Waititi~~ film I expected but a good FYI, will check my bathroom products now. \n\n\nEdit: Ralph was voiced by Taika Waititi, directed by Spencer Susser, thanks for the correction! Bathroom check came back with a whole lack of cruelty free symbols :(", "[https://crueltyfree.peta.org/companies-dont-test/](https://crueltyfree.peta.org/companies-dont-test/)\n\nthis page has some convenient lists that can be sorted by product type.\n\nhappy to report major players like Dove, Suave, herbel essences are all cruelty free.\n\nedit - my favorite bodywash is called r[aw suger - charcoal/bamboo](https://rawsugarliving.com/our_products/mens-body-wash-charcoal-bamboo/), it smells fucking outstanding and its vegan and also not tested on animals", "Ethics are the thing we wish we didn't have and try not to because it's easier to live without.\n\nWe all know animal cruelty is unethical. We know that testing on humans is unethical. But progress is willing to accept evil in just about any form, lesser or otherwise. I just don't think we can convince the world to give up on progress. People will want more. We have come a long way as a species. The average person is healthier and less likely to be killed than any other time in our history. A hundred years ago, nobody cared about the lives of sheep's and cows. Culture changes. Given enough time maybe we can save Ralph.", ">Our food lives a similar life.\n\nFood literally keeps us alive though. Cosmetics do not.", "Go vegan. For the animals and the planet.", "Look this is a great message they're trying to send \n\n\nBut why get huge transphobe Ricky Gervais on the project? Because he shares tweets asking people to sign an online petition against animal cruelty. But then goes on a huge transphobic rant, harassing people, and mocks that nothing will be done about him. Before deleting majority of the tweets like a coward \n\n\nJust pathetic. You want us to check the brands we use when you wont even check the people you work with- as if you'd even care \n\n\n \nYep, now here comes the big reddit moment, pile on the downvotes but im not taking the comment down.", "I mean, food keeps us alive, meat does not. I'm not sure how you can condemn the cosmetics industry for unnecessary animal suffering without also condemning the meat industry...", "Lush is another company, off the top of my head.", "People very much don't like to confront the superposition of mutually exclusive beliefs. You cannot be against animal testing and support meat eating. It's not a coherent belief, and it has no logical ground to stand on. People don't like being told that.", "Waaah", "Well yeah, but there are other food options at the supermarket.", "So you hate Ricky Gervais so much that you’re… trying to discredit a good cause just because he’s involved? There’s a time and a place for calling people out on bullshit, and this ain’t it.\n\nEDIT: and you even KNEW it was a garbage take beforehand. But you’ve pre-emptively painted yourself as simultaneously the victim (pile on the downvotes) and the hero (I’m not taking it down). Nobody’s asking you to take it down, because when people volunteer the information “I’m a shitty person”, that is good information to have. You’re not a beacon of truth, you’re a fake martyr that put your own damn self up on the cross.", "people still use vimeo?!", "It's a good thing that there's plenty of food out there that doesn't involve the unnecessary abuse of animals.", "My god, you’re deep!", "I mean you can though. Cosmetics are a luxury item. Meat is the easiest and cheapest method of obtaining all of the proteins a body needs. It sounds like what you're saying that anything that harms an animal is on the same level. Torturing an animal, dog or chicken fighting, hunting an animal purely for sport are all equal to eating meat. Where is the line? Is there a line? Is stepping on an ant the same as testing luxury items on animals? People will have varying opinions on the matters and some don't give a shit about any of the above while others will care deeply about all of them and then there's a whole lot of people that are going to be between the two extremes. Your opinion on the matter doesn't determine that line, society as a whole does.", ">I will now NEVER buy or support ANYTHING that has anything REMOTELY associated with what is depicted in this video.\n\nThey do animal testing on keyboards for typing entire words in all caps that aren't supposed to be capitalized. So, you should stop supporting that.", "yeah, it's \"with\", not by. I expect he probably agreed to have his name attached to it but likely had little else to do with it", "Sorry, which farmed animals live into adulthood??", "where's that reddit thread from the one researcher who did testing on animals?\n\nthey went on about the massive, massive legal hoops they had to go through for months and months to experiment on even a few animals, no animal was ever used for more than one test, tests had to be cleared if they had to be dissected later, and the vast majority if not all tests to do with cosmetics were non-fatal and mostly were done for authorization rather than actual experimentation, animal testing today is so completely different due to welfare laws than what is depicted here.\n\nif you want to watch beautifully animated PSAs that aren't made to guilt trip you try these Annie-award winning ones which celebrate how people can choose to buy things with ethically sourced palm oil, and to reduce how much imported meat you eat:\n\nThere's a Monster in my Kitchen\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rIjVDo_u8c\n\nThere's a Rang-tan in my Bedroom\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyOAKLC7fPc", "And there’s other ways of testing cosmetics", "Animals raised for food don't grow to adulthood, they just get really big really really fast.", "You know that's Taika's voice, right?", "ah I guess so. well, my assumption still stands, if he just lent a voice to it and they're marketing it as his animated film because he's got a famous name and hasn't squandered it yet like gervais has, lol", "Not really.\n\nI completely agree with pretty much everything you just said except the implication that it's not hypocritical to utilize the meat industry while criticizing the cosmetic industry.\n\nIt's as valid a viewpoint as any but it's inherently hypocritical to reject animal suffering one place and not reject it elsewhere because it has a more apparent benefit or necessity.", "Yeah like poor people\n\nLet's goooo!", "Lol, this is stupid. You get nowhere with this sort of projects. You only get lied by some company and get exploited emotionally. All those cruelty free, ethical etc buzz word products are produced by working around the rules. These companies outsource the “ethical” parts of the business to some shady company then they act surprised when someone finds out that other company wasn’t actually doing the business ethically and just change to another shady company. These sort of labeling etc carry no meaning and only for marketing.", "It's not a Taika Waititi film. \n\nIt's written and directed by Spencer Susser.", "Beef farmer here, and I'd like to say that this is incorrect. Our animals are grass fed and have pastures to roam. Their lives are not \"grim\"", "Eh pretty much all dairy cows", "that's reassuring to know ngl, but it's unfortunate that all farmers are'nt\\* like you.", "My understanding is that, in the EU, animal testing of cosmetic products was banned in 2004, animal testing of cosmetic ingredients was banned in 2009, and a full ban to end animal suffering for cosmetic reason entered into force in 2013. Is this still something we have to worry about here?", "Hi there, how would you describe their deaths ?", "Ricky is awesome, and he never said anything transphobe. You are just whini", "Wow, if animals were humans and not animals this would be really sad.", "Meat is food.", "Animal testing is a basic requirement for any consumables, unfortunately including cosmetics. But the thing is, I much rather see animals being tested on rather than humans (especially the end user). But I do think it's good practice to buy from brands that are open about what they do.\n\nIn the end, researchers are humans and I don't think anyone's enjoying causing suffering.", "Are you still going to take pharmaceuticals? They are all tested on animals and not all drugs are life-saving.", "I've always felt that animal testing is one of the most pussy bitch ass things that humans do. Because of animal testing, monkeys went to space before we did. We're a pathetic species.", "Less than the amount of fresh water, manure and habitat destruction that is being used to feed, keep and raise animals we use for meat, I'm guessing.", "I'm hoping less painful than what ours is likely to be.", "Nowhere near as much as it takes to farm animals.", "Instantaneous to be honest", "I don't think that it is hypocritical. It would be hypocritical if I said I don't believe animals should be raised the way they are for meat and then turn around and buy a burger at McDonald's. It would be hypocritical if I said I don't think animals should be tested on for makeup and then went out and supported animal testing for hair dye. It's hypocritical when you say one thing and do another. It all depends on what you say and your actions. It depends on where you draw your own personal lines. You can't call me a hypocrite if I specifically say I'm in favor of animals suffering for the meat but not in favor of suffering for other reasons.", "So you've never heard of beans? Lol", "Okay. Would you say this is the norm for the industry or more of a unicorn ?", "you're literally comparing nutrition to vanity, and saying both are equal. Let me take away all your vanity items, see how long you last. now lets take away all your nutrition, see how long you last then. \n\n\nAlso, its possible to eat meat without animals suffering, it costs more. but its possible, and a lot of people are willing to pay the extra. \n\nIt's not hypocritical to not want animals to suffer. eating meat doesn't mean that an animal has to suffer. (it can me they suffer, but it doesn't have to mean they suffer) this is night and day compared to cosmetic testing.", "I didn't say it wasn't possible.", "Some light hijacking here... If you'd like to conveniently cut out some animal cruelty in a typical shopping trip you can use the \"Cruelty-cutter\" app. Take a picture of the bar code or throw the product name into a search bar and it'll search a database of some variety and let you know. Super simple and free to download.", "Would be pretty grim to get a fist up the ass so you can get impregnated, only for your kid to get taken from ya. But at least they get grass, bet they highly appreciate it.", "Sounds like you need an education on impregnation as well as a good few other things", "Oh I skimmed your comment bc you're ignorant tbh. Cheapest and easiest is what brought me here. Meat isn't cheap it's subsidized even then it's much more expensive than beans and beans aren't atrocious for the environment or your body. Also killing an animal is still killing. If you need \"society\" to draw the line for you it's because you lack your own moral compass.", "Oh yep, I’m sure all the ‘artificial insemination’ videos they use to teach farmers how to breed cows are fake", "A couple of points to consider\n\nReddit is a global platform so I can only speak to what happens in my country. \n\nI'm from Northern Ireland and we have very high animal welfare and food quality standards here, so there is a lot of protection for the animals in how the live and how they die. \n\nWe send our animals either to a local butchers or an industrial abattoir and I would say instantaneous is the word to describe the animals death. (Have been through the facilities of both several times), so it would be the norm for me and my family in our wider local area but that's not to say it's the same everywhere.\n\nI don't agree with factory farming or the halal method of slaughter as a side note.", "Of course I can, I can say whatever I want whether it's true or not.\n\nIn this case it is but I think you're taking it the wrong way, this is exactly what the first dude meant.\n\nLet me be clear, I'm a meat eater and I also appose medical testing on animals for the obvious reasons, there is nothing particularly wrong with this viewpoint and it's worth as much as any other but it doesn't make it not contradictive.\n\nI know what you're saying in terms of it not being the same thing food production/testing makeup but the reality is that it is, suffering is suffering it doesn't matter why.\n\nThe important part is that people recognize this type of logical disconnect with how they perceive the world and apply rationality to other affected decisions/opinions/whatever otherwise we're just choosing to show conviction when it's convenient.", "Considering we don't use artificial insemination personally, you can take the aggression elsewhere, also you're using the wrong hole for impregnation, might want to go discuss that with your folks.\n\nAnd we don't take their kids away for them either, not as a beef suckler herd.", "No you are, I'm comparing suffering to suffering.\nAnd sure it's possible, do you ensure that happens?\n\nOur reasons for inflicting suffering do not change it having occured\n\nDon't you see the logical disconnect?", "The entire agriculture industry is subsidized. You don't think beans are too? I was speaking in generalizations, not my own personal beliefs because in a society no individuals personal beliefs matter. If everyone felt the way you do then things would be that way.", "Thank you for elaborating! \n\n&#x200B;\n\nI've seen some pretty horrific hidden-camera footage from the UK dairy meat and dairy industry but it's always difficult to know if what's documented is the norm or just some rogue individuals.", "They're usually hidden cameras because what they're doing is completely illegal, so one would certainly hope it's not the norm.", "The important part is that people listen to what you say. If you say specifically you're against 100% any kind of animal suffering than yes it is hypocritical. If you say you're fine with animal suffering for one purpose but not another and support that one purpose but not the other, you're not a hypocrite because you've explicitly stated your view and followed that with your actions. So if you say I'm against animals being used for testing that does not mean you are automatically against animal suffering at all or killing animals for meat. You can even acknowledge that it isn't the way you would prefer it but that you accept it.", "You absolutely can be. Animal testing for cosmetics is absolutely not necessary. Most countries have either outlawed it or removed it as a necessity for approving cosmetics. The reason many companies continued to do it is so their products could be sold in China because they had a requirement for animal testing for approval. This has recently been removed for many products. Many cosmetic brands have switched to no animal testing in the last few years for this reason. So, since it's not necessary/only necessary if you care only about maximizing profits and selling in China, I'm against companies using it. Conversely, the only way to enjoy eating meat is to eat meat, there's no alternative that allows the same outcome. Additionally, farming does not need to be miserable for the animal the way having chemicals sprayed in your eyes would be. Some argue that killing the animal at all is wrong, but I disagree. My issues with farming are how the animal is treated while it's alive, not the fact that its killed.", "Ignoring the fact that no one who isn't already suicidal would consent to being farmed just because their life up to death was nice...\n\nWhat percentage of the demand do you and farms like you satisfy? Less than a couple percent. Protecting the whole industry over the biased claims of the \"best\" cherry picked farms is absurd.", "Would you be able to tell me why they teach to go elbow deep then? I was taught it’s to line up the cervix so it’s easier to insert the semen, please enlighten me.\n\nAnd sorry, forgot you said you’re a beef farmer, it’s the dairy farmers that take the kids. In the beef, you take the parents from the kids. \n\nDidnt mean to be aggressive, was just weird to see innocent animals that know nothing but a life of exploitation and people say they have a good life cos they eat grass.", "Exactly right. I DO know that in this specific Ed Winter's [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9sSDTbJ8WI&t=1s&ab_channel=EarthlingEd) he does explicitly state that this was documented in 'every farm' where they'd put cameras. Whether they only put cameras in the notorious farms or not, I don't know. \n\n\nEither way, that video is graphic and upsetting and shouldn't be put on lightly.", "Is it ethical to eat dolphin? Endangered animals? Humans?\n\nNone of these things are required and neither are any animal products.\n\nIf someone ate your dog would you accept the lie that it was required for them to live as an excuse?\n\nYou need food, you don't need animal products specifically.", "A new scented shampoo doesn't feel much like progress", "This isn't true at all, there are countless cosmetic manufacturers that have been approved by third party animal abuse concern groups like the vegan society. These groups are wise to these tricks.", "Listen and watch Allan Savory, Joel Salatin. \n\nThe planet needs us to put a absolute stop to factory farms. The planet needs farms using animals as nature intended.\n\nStopping animal farming is not the answer and would be hugely detrimental. Changing the way we farm is the future.", "Hypocrisy doesn't require a specific act.\n\nHypocrisy is contradictive value, it can be an act but it's not limited to one.\n\nCompletely digressed from the point though", "We simply don't have the space to farm for our current meat demand as nature intended. The one thing factory farming has going for it is that its space efficient.", "Animals don't know a life of exploitation, that's a notion I find absurd tbh. \n\nHave you seen the size of a cow? When I'm calving a cow and there are difficulties I will be in to the shoulder to help save the calf. \n\nNot it's ass though.", "I have no idea what that first paragraph means tbh. \n\nNo idea what percentage but do you know or are you just throwing out numbers to minimise farms like ours? \n\nA couple of bad apples shouldn't spoil the crop either but you are willing to do that.", "Just curious — do you feel like the testing was useful? I keep hearing this “animal testing is useless” message on Reddit but I’m not convinced. I have friends who have done animal testing in labs for research and it’s absolutely valuable for things like biomedical tech. \n\nI’m not sure why animal testing would not be helpful for cosmetics. I’m picturing a lot of no-testing companies building on the research of the companies who did test, and then claiming their hands are clean.", "Pedophile's are a fantastic compromise.", "Interesting, so animals don’t know what exploitation is?\n\nI would find it very exploitative if the only purpose of my life was to be impregnated as many times as possible, then after a few years of that, go to a slaughterhouse where all I can hear is the screams and cries of my friends, just to be served up on a plate for a 5 minute meal. If it were me, I’d much rather be taken care of so I can spend the rest of my natural life with my kids.\n\nI was also talking about the unwanted insemination from a human, not the birthing of her child. \n\nI’m just saying, these animals are just like our dogs and cats and deserve respect. They don’t deserve to be used as a commodity where billions of their species are killed every year.", "Buy more expensive meat from a butcher instead of cheap crap from the supermarket, talk to them about their sources, and buy less of it. I dropped down to 4 nights a week with meat, and the quality I'm buying is unbelievable. You can taste the ethics.", "or the 7 billion male chicks that go straight into the grinder.", "I think they're saying there are a lot more factory-farms than farms like yours. Those farms are not as nice as yours, and they exist in way larger numbers. So it's not fair for you say that because YOUR cows have pastures to roam and are grass fed, that most beef farms are like that. Good on you for giving your cows a semi-decent life before they're slaughtered but most places aren't up to that code.", "Yeah thats just fucking horrible. If there is such a thing as Karma, people rack it up even without realising.\n\nI do believe there are cruelty free makeup products. Or not tested on animals type products. Maybe buy those?", "You are putting human characteristics into an animal that doesn't have them. \n\nThey don't have hopes and dreams and aspirations, they aren't searching for a purpose to life, they don't have the \"human experience\", these animals are like our dogs and cats in some ways and not in others, dogs and cats were domesticated for a purpose specific to the animal, cattle and other livestock were also domesticated for a purpose.\n\nWe don't eat animals of that age either just to go back to the story you told, they don't go into the human food chain.", "The French version is voiced by director Denis Villeneuve.", "Is it wrong to \"minimise\" your farms if they're factually minimal?\n\nA couple bad apples DOES spoil the barrel btw, but we're not talking about about a couple, we're talking about a vast majority, and your apples are rotten too, just less rotten.", "Never said they have aspirations, just that I’m 100% sure they’d rather be loved and cared for with their family instead of being a commodity and slaughtered by the billions.", "What are you talking about? Gervais is one of the only comedians left with any balls.", "Shampoo and cosmetics in general try to hide in the \"gray area\" of pharmaceutical testing. Who doesn't want new vaccines and treatments for diseases? They come at a cost. :/", "Genuinely asking cuz I've seen similar statements before, but what makes something like body wash \"vegan\"? I always just assumed that was used for food.", "Yeah but beans WITH ham, now we’re talking mmmmmmmmmmmmm 🤤", "Not true as well, look at how much meat protein and vegetables farmers like Richard Perkins and Joel salatin are producing of an incredible small amount of land.", "Gervais and Waititi absolutely killing it. (sorry, no pun intended)\n\nIt's easy to forget what happens behind closed doors. Thank you and for everyone who made this video possible. Hopefully Ralph can go back to the fields one day.", "If someone wants to break down the numbers of the % of produce across the different sectors being factory farmed or not I'm all for the data, but randomly throwing out numbers means nothing.", "Dairy cows are generally killed at a quarter to a third of their natural [lifespan](https://thehumaneleague.org/article/dairy-cows). This is because they eventually are unable to have children, at that point they're sent to slaughterhouses for low quality meat you would find in fast food or pet food. The entire animal agriculture industry is pretty cruel.", "Well I'm not an animal physiologist so I'll have to take your word on that. \n\nConsidering how the herd structure in bovines is I'm not sure how the \"loved and cared for with their family\" aspect would work. \n\nDo bovines love? Do they care for each other? Deep questions and I'm glad an expert is here to be 100% sure on these matters", "It's really not night and day. You can get all the nutrition you need without killing animals, at least in developed nations which coincidentally are the ones that consume the most meat.", "Well thats just not true. Production is from 2 years to the upper ends of 6 yo. Then usually slaughtered. \n\n But cows live to be about 20 yo so they don't live into \"adulthood\" just into an intensively cultivated sexually viable state.", "I'd much rather an animal not suffer than someone get mad they got called the wrong pronoun...a human can get over it, animals are powerless.", "We have vaccines and medicine from it. This work is often contracted out, and the dame lab that is testing medicine in one cage is testing a topical product next to it.", "Has nothing that comes from an animal in it.", "Nah. I like my meat to much, sorry.", ">Animal testing is a basic requirement for any consumables, unfortunately including cosmetics.\n\nWell thats simple not true for cosmetics in the US and Europe at least. The FDA doesnt require it at all.", "Im not saying it aint cruel, but if they can have offspring, they are \"adults\". I live in Ireland btw so they live longer here and eat grass, outdoors and arent pumped with drugs all the time because theyre healthy AF. Again not excusing it, just pointing it out.", "You’re picking two extremes of a spectrum, when the line really isnt that clear. What about detergents and disinfectants? Dental products? Oral supplements? Over the counter ointments? Optical care?", "I guess this video ends up pretty funny because it turns out Ricky Gervais has more empathy for animals than trans people. Maybe bleak was the word I was looking for, I'm not sure.", "But even on the topic of food, look at the list of ingredients on the back of any food item that you unwrap today. Each one when through, at the bare minimum, a study to determine the lethality dose. Chances are that each one went through a study to determine the potential hazards in concentrated form for work places blending the product.", "https://www.ciwf.org.uk/factory-farm-map/\n\n73% in the world's second best country for animal welfare after Luxemburg.\n\n99% in the US https://www.sentienceinstitute.org/us-factory-farming-estimates#:~:text=We%20estimate%20that%2099%25%20of,are%20living%20in%20factory%20farms.\n\nPretty grim.", "My names Ralph . . . and ugh. . .\n\nyikes.", "What's really grim is HSUS tricking people into thinking they're your local animal shelter, when really, they're a more extreme pEta in business suits with better lawyers.", "The list of crossed-out names on the side of the locker, at the end.", ">Im not saying it aint cruel, but if they can have offspring, they are \"adults\".\n\nI mean adult is only used relating to humans, animals are sexually mature. However most dairy cows are killed when they stop producing viable milk volume at 52 months. Thats about a fifth of the actually lifespan. \n\nIrish cows are lucky compared to almost all other industrialised dairy production cows. They also have much lower milk production per cow(similar to greece and austria) which is less stressful on the animal. \n\nBut the the EU produces a lot less then India,China, US and Brazil and that is also where the regulations are worse.", "Give it a rest. He made one joke about a person who happened to be trans doing a shitty thing. Being trans does not automatically exempt you from criticism.\n\nIf you're referring to [this tweet](https://www.indiewire.com/2020/01/ricky-gervais-transphobic-tweets-explained-1202200499/), note that he was being facetious. It's a joke. He's a comedian. That's what comedians do: sarcasm and satire.", "The best way to campaign is to frame the issue with positivity.\n\n\n“We love the animals we share our planet with, and have successfully introduced legislation to protect them from animal testing. Now, we need help to close the doors forever on the (statistic) animals who still suffer under this system. Here’s what you can do.”\n\n\nLike yeah, people will bitch about it “glossing over reality” or some shit but the actual reality is, guilt tripping is really fucking bad at making people act.", "If you're referring to [this tweet](https://www.indiewire.com/2020/01/ricky-gervais-transphobic-tweets-explained-1202200499/), not that he was being facetious. It's a joke. He's a comedian. That's what comedians do: sarcasm and satire. He deleted the tweets because of the trans army harassing him for what wasn't even meant to to be a sincere remark. Actually kind of ironic, if you think about it.", "Excuse my ignorance, what are the other options?", "In what way?", "Could an alternative not be to ban cosmetics?", "I mean I was thinking about his line of jokes where he compared trans women identifying as women to himself identifying as a chimpanzee but we can talk about Caitlyn Jenner instead. \n\nYou can criticise Caitlyn Jenner and still call her \"Caitlyn\". You can criticise a black person without being racist. You can criticise gay people without being homophobic. This isn't hard. The whole \"This is a story from when he was called Bruce\" is just the same joke as \"When I said he was a faggot I just meant he was a bundle of sticks\".", "Even the cattle eventually destined for feed lots spend much of their life on pasture.", "They are not affiliated with any local animal shelter, and only 1% of any revenue makes its way to animal care.\n\nHere's a list of quotes from the guy who runs it: [https://www.azquotes.com/author/37069-Wayne\\_Pacelle](https://www.azquotes.com/author/37069-Wayne_Pacelle)\n\nThey aren't interested in animal welfare, they're interested in eliminating any human use of animals, including pets.\n\nHere are their 2019 IRS 990 tax filings: [https://apps.irs.gov/pub/epostcard/cor/530225390\\_201912\\_990\\_2020090417281341.pdf](https://apps.irs.gov/pub/epostcard/cor/530225390_201912_990_2020090417281341.pdf)\n\nAside from being total fucking extremist whackjobs, they're also a shitty charity. $159 million in revenue, $15 milliion in spend to groups actually doing anything other than fundraising, propaganda, salaries, and lawsuits (and most of that is to external lawyers and extremist groups).\n\nThey scam people into thinking they're all about helping puppies and kittens, but they have NO affiliation with any local animal shelter or humane society.", "Had a look at the chart, for northern Ireland the colours are very swayed for the numbers within those counties. \nThere are roughly 306,300 dairy cows in Northern Ireland and less that 2000 are all year housed, this is only about 0.6% and the map is coloured at the middle level which is misleading in my opinion. (which from the break down by country could be 1-2 big family farms in each county), all year housed is different that factory farms with plenty of those farms having lots of space for the cattle indoor. \n\nNo data for beef farm numbers.", "> they don't live into \"adulthood\" just into an intensively cultivated sexually viable state.\n\nWhat do we consider \"adulthood\" though? Wouldn't sexual viability typically mark the transition into adulthood for animals?", "It often just means they didn’t do the test but they used test data that was previously done.", "> However most dairy cows are killed when they stop producing viable milk volume at 52 months.\n\nWould need a reference for this - it takes 2 years for a cow to start giving milk from being born, and 52 months would be only around 2 years of productive span -> too big of a waste of productive years ... is 52 months REALLY the typical lifespan of a dairy cow?", "Unfortunately yes, my shampoo and conditioner doesn’t have the cruelty free symbol on it.\n\nI looked into it OGX isn’t for sure 100% not tested in animals /:", "how are they killed?", "I mean realistically are pets overall a good thing? Don't they lead to a lot of negative effects to animals overall like over breeding and culling and other terrible things. I'm not saying pet owners are bad people, but holistically is the sum good or bad.", "[He did call her Caitlyn. He was merely stating that she was Bruce and is now Caitlyn.](https://youtu.be/86CT53xvOFY) I don't see how this is controversial; it's just an objective recounting of what happened.", "yeah i agree with this guy i like eating human meat too much so imma just keep eating it because it tastes good.", ">They aren't interested in animal welfare, they're interested in eliminating any human use of animals, including pets.\n\nso... animal welfare", "Ooooh and then they get their heads chopped off. Great!", "He was never in the fields. That's one gripe I have in the video. It's a play to emotions, but he simply would have never been born. Lab animals are breed for and maintained within such conditions.", "Yes. [The symbols have various levels of meaning.](https://www.veganrabbit.com/cruelty-free/cruelty-free-basics/cruelty-free-logos-labels/)\n\nThe “leaping bunny” is the one that would be most desirable as they have random/surprise supply chain audits to prevent what you’re mentioning above.\n\nEdit - I reread your comment, of course nothing can change the testing that has already been done.", "Overbreeding and culling are all part of nature even if humans didn't exist. Especially without predators to constantly hunt prey. Ever seen a deer starvation event? It happens when there's not enough predators. Back in the 1970s it happened in south Georgia. Some organizations convinced the Georgia DNR they could trap and relocate rather than extend hunting season. The mass starvation was atrocious. Ever seen a major squirrel migration? I seen in in North Arkansas in the 1990s. Often caused by a bumper crop of acorn. The squirrel population swells until there's no longer enough food for them locally. So they start migrating. But as they do they consume all the food in surrounding areas, causing the squirrels there to migrate as well. Which then causes food surrounding areas to be picked clean of food. And it continues to snowball until enough squirrels starve or die off to end it. Then there's a few years where you'll almost never see a squirrel.\n\nThe point is that nature is ruthless. That doesn't mean we have to be gratuitously ruthless, or worse and recklessly continue habitat destruction. But put in perspective our ruthlessness doesn't compare to natures ruthlessness in terms over breeding and culling, or in the culling required to prevent over breeding.", "Showing your lack of understanding pretty well with this comment 👍🏻", "So they don’t get their heads chopped off?", "Most commonly shot in the head", "Lmao then you fucking kill them, what a saint you are", "Yea.... Did I say they didn't go to slaughter? We are talking about their quality of life here.", "Order of operations is important. They are killed and then sectioned out into parts during production", "4 and a half years is normal in industrial production. Upper end is 6 years. \n\nIt's a pretty easy google for the reference. \n\nIt's also the reason for the new marketing on \"aged dairy beef\" thats been coming out lately. It increases the market value of dairy cows.", "A human can be sexually viable at 12. Adulthood is not an appropriate term for animals. It's a human social term even though it is used as a synonym.\n\nIf anything, adolecant animals are the ones mainly used in our food chain.", "[Beagle Freedom Project](https://bfp.org)", "Great film about animal testing which needs to Stop", "So they do get their heads chopped off is what you’re saying…", "The problem is China requires animal testing for some cosmetics. Of course no company wants to lose out on the Chinese market so this is what we get.", "That's like saying \"They piss on Margaret Thatcher!\" when in fact it's just her grave that's often pissed on.\n\nOnce consciousness/life has left the body, especially in animals used for food/production (because... that's their entire reason for killing them in the first place) you can't put anything down to cruelty because there's nothing to experience the pain. It's just an empty meat-vessel at that point, just like every living thing that dies of any cause.\n\nIf their heads were chopped off while alive then sure, that's cruel as fuck, but if you apply this ridiculous standard across the board every medical dissection or post-mortem counts as torturing humans, which it's clearly not.", "Not a great analogy, because cutting their heads off is pretty much an immediate next step after slashing their throats open. Them being forcefully bred into existence so we can cut their heads off doesn’t make it any less cruel either. Also you’re operating under the assumption that they are actually unconscious. Stunning is hardly a perfect process IF they’re even lucky enough to get stunned anyway.\n\nThey don’t care what they were born for, what their purpose is, or why they’re getting killed. They don’t want to have their throat’s cut open and head cut off.", ">China requires animal testing for some cosmetics\n\nThat law was changed in May this year for most of the import cosmetics", "It's impossible to make an argument against responsible pet ownership without making an argument against humans.", "Before watching: Oh cool Taika Waititi! He's hilarious I bet this will be great!\n\nAfter watching: Oh cool so who wants to go do some terrorism?", "Just take a look at your bathroom products so you know if you should buy again or look for another brand.\n\nI’ll be dropping OGX from my shampoo/conditioner purchase rotation unfortunately.", "Meat cattle are killed long before old age, because the meat is much better then. \n\nIf we eat less meat (like one meal per week) we can give animals dignified and happy lives, until they are killed, but the age we kill animals at makes that problematic. Meat eating itself is not immoral, its how the animals are treated in factory farming. 99% of U.S. farm animals are factory farmed. Cattle are better off than most, with 70% of U.S. cattle factory farmed. The other 30% being farms like yours. To meet consumer demands, the animals suffer.\n\nFun fact, wild mammals only account for 4% of all mammals left on Earth:\n\n> Currently, livestock make up 60% of the biomass of all mammals on earth, followed by humans (36%) and wild mammals (4%). As for birds, 70% are domesticated, such as poultry, whereas only 30% are wild.\n\n[Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction#Influences)", "That's why I said\n\n> some cosmetics", "I've replied to something similar down the comments but in the country I'm from 0.6% of dairy cattle are kept in house all year around, no stats on beef cattle on the chart I was looking at. \n\nThey are killed before the 30month as a human consumption regulation, anything older goes for non-human consumption", "I think there's a big difference between these two things. Testing pharmaceuticals on animals is generally considered okay (culturally, I think vegans/vegetarians may disagree) because they are often life saving medications that genuinely help people. No one's life is dependent on eyeliner or shampoo.", "Isn't that Gervais doing the voice of the interviewer?", "If the symbol requires companies to pay to be audited, it's very unlikely many will, especially the ones that are going for the cheapest price. This isn't however definitive proof they test on animals, they just don't want to bother decreasing their margins by having extra costs for audits. (a similar thing happens with water resistance ratings on gadgets, a lot of phone manufacturers don't want to pay for an official IP rating even if the phone is in fact waterproof because it hurts profits).\n\nCompanies will generally only pay for audits/certifications if they know customers value said things over not having them.\n\nSo I guess rather than relying solely on a cruelty free symbol, try to know where your products are manufactured and check on those companies to see if they have a history of animal cruelty.", "Yeah, I think a big point everyone is missing here is that this video (while super interesting and well done, and also at least makes me reconsider what should be tested on animals, what products to support, etc) is that the anthropomorphism of a bunny obviously doesn't reflect reality. They aren't humans, their thinking is limited even if not fully understood. Instincts could make up the entirety of their functioning for all we know.\n\nEven outside of how conscious animals are, most people don't bother thinking of what 'living in the wild' actually entails. You know why bunnies have so many babies? Because they get eaten alive before they're able to reach reproductive age, or get some parasite or sickness.\n\nYou know how the vast majority of animals die in nature? Of being eaten alive, hit by cars, whatever. That's not cool dudes, but that's life and that's nature. Nature is actually pretty horrifying when you consider how fleeting and hard life is living in the wild (exceptions being the Galapagos or something). It's not all sunray drenched prairies and forests, beautiful beach sunsets, or peaceful life in babbling brooks.\n\nThat all being said, I don't support testing non-important products on animals if it's expected to have reactions of pain and suffering. It is irritating how self righteous people can be about how we treat animals, though. It's naïve and really under-thought out most of the time.", "Yeah it's very hard to justify that, eh?", "Yes. You can see the credits in the video description.", "What do you do with a male chicken from a line designed to lay as many eggs as possible? They aren't really good for eating.\n\n\nIf you can answer that question, then chicken farmers will beat a path to your door because throwing away half their fertilized eggs is wasteful.", "This is just misinformation.", "Nobody has a good answer, but the REAL issue is that the problem exists because we made it. The problem itself IS the problem.\n\nHow about letting them grow to size and use them for meat? That WOULD work fine, but the industry doesn't want it and has designed everything around the \"males are trash\" idea. So there's no room for it.", "Got linked the data, for dairy cattle it's 0.6% factory farmed in my country.\n(And it's not even factory farmed it's just all year indoor grazing with plenty of space for the cows)\n\nNo data for beef farms but considering how grass management differs for beef and dairy farms, beef will be less again than that.", "Reddit has been inundated with pro-vegan anti animal abuse posts lately. They are presenting many outlier incidents of abuse as the standard and woefully misleading people to push their views. Yes animal abuse happens. Yes some practices are archaic and should be modernized to ensure the animals don't suffer. But not all farms are \"factory farms\" not all animals live terrible lives. I'm a hunter and even that is deplorable to them because I kill an animal for food, dispute it being the fastest and least horrifying death an animal in the wild will typically ever experience. I've literally witnessed from my hunting stand a deer being torn apart by coyotes still alive... Slaying it with an arrow however is terrible to them. Thanks for farming responsibly.", "Would you like your anesthesia before or after your operation?\n\nIs that a better comparison?\n\nEdit: They also don't care about what you said in the last paragraph either.", "what do you mean about gervais", "You’re acting like killing them is a necessity, like an operation might be. Eating animals is frivolous and unnecessary. If I had the choice of being anesthetized or not for an operation I don’t need, I’d rather just not have the operation. Being murdered does not equal an operation. And are you suggesting that animals don’t value their lives?", "Animals don't understand what life is, so they don't hold value to it, it's another instance of putting a human thought process and emotions onto something that isn't human and so it's thought processes will not be the same as ours. \n\nIf we want beef from them I'd rather do it while they are dead than alive. \n\nNo operation is 100% necessary if you want to continue your line, would just have to deal with the consequences of not having it.", "Who could have thought that /u/The_Vegan_Chef would not be telling the truth about matters to do with meat production?! What is this world coming to?!", "You would of never been born if Jesus farted west instead of east… I mean, Wtf are you talking about?!!\nRalph represents every rabbit taken from nature to be tested on and bred in captivity to continue the testing on their future generations. \nIt’s a play on emotions because getting video from these labs is not “allowed” otherwise, we would have seen this long ago", "Animals don’t value their lives? Alright, well you’re obviously either being dishonest or completely disconnected from reality. Animals value their lives and families. That’s a demonstrable and proven fact. Humans also don’t need to eat them to survive and thrive, so killing and eaten them is by default unnecessary and therefore cruel.", "Nope", "Amazing response. Alright then, answer me this: if you truly believe animals don’t value their lives, then why bother with any welfare procedures before slaughtering them? (Stunning, free range, etc.)", "If I anthropomorphized my computer/laptop then I would probably feel bad about leaving them on without sleep, or never asking them how they are doing?\n\nI love that we are able to move away from animal testing more and more, but I don't think it is fair to make the consumers think the animals have any idea. That's just being cruel with no win since it is quite dishonest?", "The fact that animals experience violent death in the wild is not justification for violent death in captivity. The VAST MAJORITY of farms are not the family owned open range utopias your vapid comment presents. Most farms keep their animals in abusive conditions.", "So much of what you say is \"guaranteed proven, stated facts\" without it being that way, so the above response just seemed like the most appropriate thing to say. \n\nBecause an animal can still feel pain, can still be in pain. \n\nThat's why we want the animals who we have bred, birthed, raised and looked after, animals that are prey animals and so need protection, to have a good life. \n\n\nIt's about making the process of life and death good and comfortable for them. \n\nThey still don't understand the bigger question of \"what life is\" or a meaning or purpose.", "Actually there are probably fewer factory farms because factory farms are much larger and hold thousands of animals vs smaller operations that are tens to a few hundred. The farmer by my land in Wisconsin has 200 cows because that's the amount his land can sustain without purchasing grass or feed from someone else. He is not a factory farm and is the standard in the area. The large factory farms exist up in Wisconsin too but it only takes a few of them to match the numbers of cattle in hundreds of smaller operations.", "You just said they don’t value their lives… if they don’t value their lives then why put in effort to make their lives better? Also you’re on the defensive here. You stated they don’t value their lives so actually YOU need to prove they don’t first.", "Not valuing life because you don't understand what life is, is separate from living in suffering. \n\nI'm not on the defensive one bit, you are making claims of 100% guarantee and proven facts which you can't back up.", "The us department of agriculture largely disagrees with you. The vast majority of farms by the numbers in the United States ARE family farms. The most production of course comes from large scale operations. This means that most farms are in fact small to medium operations but most of the output comes from a few ultra large corporations. \n\nIf you want to attack those large conglomerate corporations and their mistreatment of animals I'll be right there with you. But to post a video of animal abuse and say it's indicative of the entire industry, I'll fight you over it. That's an outright lie and not representative of small family farmers. Lies told over and over again are still lies. S", "You’re just not making any sense at all and contradicting yourself. Animals don’t value life, but have emotions and suffer so you want to make their lives as good as you can. Someone has to know the meaning of life to have any value? Genuinely what are you even saying? So intellectually disabled people, someone with Alzheimer’s or dementia, or someone in a coma’s life doesn’t have any value?\n\nHow would you like me to prove it? You want animal studies? Do you want me to go outside and find an animal and hurt them? Humans don’t need meat to live and thrive, do you want a list of vegan athletes? How can I prove these things to you? I also have no skin in the game here, your entire profession is being attacked right now and you’re miserably failing to defend your position.\n\nYou know what sounds like a good life? Not having my head chopped off so someone can sell my dead body for money.", "It's not making sense because you aren't reading it properly. \n\nAnd no it's not my entire profession so let's not make assumptions.\n\nAgain with the fascination about the head being chopped of. \n\nI'm not defending any position, putting across my experience from expertise. \n\nI can point to people who live on a carnivore diet and thrive too.", "Chickens are docile and easy to work with. They share space well and are pretty low maintenance. \n\nRoosters are the opposite of that in every possible way. On top of that, their meat just isn’t as appetizing. So at the end of the day you’d be pumping far more time and energy into an inferior product.", ">a full ban to end animal suffering for cosmetic reason entered into force in 2013.\n\nDoes this include fur?", "Their suffering is real.", "Poor people comes 20 years after Pedophile testing is allowed.", "I’m the one with the fascination… you literally make money from doing it", "What about the animals that tested Cialis? Should they have suffered so that grandpa can get a boner?", "I wasn't arguing against ending such cruelty, I was simply stating that there is no rabbit being returned to nature. There is no rabbit that would be frolicking in the fields instead if this practice ended. They wouldn't have been born in the first place. A few rabbits were originally taken, but it's long been breeding for the specific purpose of such lab experiments.", "Actually go and read the links. Particularly the one with quotes.\n\n> We have no problems with the extinction of domestic animals. They are creations of human selective breeding.\n\nIf you think killing an animal is in its best interests, is good for its welfare, you're fucking insane.", "Cialis is used for more than just boner pills , which if I'm remembering correctly the erectile dysfunction aspect was discovered by chance and wasn't it's original purpose.\n\nBut I won't argue the specifics of that, because you're totally right. Should we test medications on animals that doesn't save lives, like Botox? I'm not really sure where I draw the line! I'm vegetarian and definitely try to avoid animal tested skincare products, but it is next to impossible to avoid cruelty free medication.", "Obviously use them for cosmetic testing.", "Meat eating itself isn't immoral, is a pretty hefty claim to make. I'd probably agree, that it isn't eating meat but raising animals to kill them that is immoral, but those seem hand in hand in your example. Factory grown meat isn't immoral though.", "Their first paragraph means that they're ignoring the fact that as comfortable a life you try to give the animals you're still raising them to be murdered and that can be seen as unethical inherently (and is on a growing scale).", "If you look into the animal testing restrictions in some European nations you'll see that it isn't necessary. Yes testing has discovered what chemicals are safe but now that the bounds have been explored restrictions can be placed on the development of cosmetics to keep them safe without any further animal suffering. What they do is create a list of chemicals that are deemed safe to move directly to human testing as their mixture has been demonstrably proven to be non-harmful and from this most cosmetics are developed.", "That removes a lot of context, if you're against a bunny suffering for cosmetics and believe you can eat a factory farmed cow for food their is hypocrisy involved because the first is animal suffering for human greed and the second is animal suffering for human greed. The roots are both the same, there can come different perspectives, someone might be fine with animal death but not suffering and therefore support more ethical farming. But you cannot be opposed to the organized torture of animals for one unnecessary product and not be a hypocrite when not opposing the organized torture of another unnecessary product.", "Your computer has no desires or emotions, animals do.", "My men's body wash from Dove was not branded in any fashion with cruelty free or anything and cruelty cutter also said it was not. Looks like they still test on animals where legally required to like China", "Does that limit the discovery of new chemicals? I’d imagine the applications are a lot wider than just cosmetics, but these nations have likely thought of that. As much as I feel for the animals, I hate the idea of anyone being blinded or disfigured by improperly vetted cosmetics (which was a thing before animal testing).", "I should be so lucky", "It would limit the creation of them in pursuit of cosmetic applications, it doesn't apply to every industry such as medicine. But we now have access to the best of both worlds, no one needs to be blinded or disfigured, and we don't need to breed and harm animals, we can have cruelty free cosmetics which is nice to think about! We just need to push for more public support and adoption!", "Extreme Pita", "This is simply not going to happen on the necessary scale. Consuming meat is an integral part of the vast majority of human cultures and they are not going to give that up, even as problems like climate change and antibiotic collapse rear their ugly head.\n\nInstead, we should look into alternatives that can provide us with meat without the downsides of factory farming. Something like [GFI](https://gfi.org/) has a much better chance of making a lasting impact through meat alternatives than a million lectures on the morality of veganism.", "Yes let’s make animals suffer so we can look better! Yay!", "I’d argue that we absolutely have a good answer to that. Go vegan. Every person eating eggs and chicken is complicit in the suffering that these innocent animals experience. That demand is the reason for every one of these insane atrocities.", "Well, they actually can. I grew up near a rural area. My grandparents had small farm. Chickens, pigs, etc. I was witnessing how the animals were being killed for food. It's swift and painless. Which is very different from the laboratory, where they have to experience the effect of the test substances ( which might not be painless) before them being disposed of. All in all, I do understand how a steak ends up on my plate and will enjoy it, but I despise testing cosmetics on animals simply because I'm against unnecessary suffering of living beings.\n\nTBF, There are promising experiments to grow meat \"in laboratory\". But results are very expensive as for now. So, if (or when) it would be cheap enough to produce meat this way(instead of depending on livestock) I would wholeheartedly support it.", "Right, so my argument is that our expectations of meat is unreasonable, as we have bred the ultimate superchicken, and we will not accept anything else. And then the even bigger issue, of course, is our extreme meat consumption in general.", "That's not untrue, but I think \"just\" going vegan by itself is not putting enough pressure on authorities and the public to make large changes. Our meat consumption is unreasonable, the animal standards of living and general ethics are too commercialized, and it's just accepted as the standard while veganism is \"a lifestyle choice for special people\".\n\nI'm not a veganism guy, but I agree with the arguments a lot.", "You could stop buying eggs so that that the incentive to breed designer chickens is reduced?", "Both. Yes, and.", "In every Hollywood montage where a computer (Ultron) or someone learning about humans (Leelo) they always see Nazis, war, and atom bombs and thinks humans are bad and not worth saving, they ought to include in that montage what we do to animals whether for food or research.", "lol he's a massive regressive prick who panders only to his edgelord fanboys, he punches down almost exclusively and his comedy is just jerking his fans off, it's pretty pathetic", "balls? balls to do what? against whom? who is he punching down on? and why is that funny? what's funny about any of it?", "obviously not if you're using stuff that has documentation already, but if you want anything new and innovative, you're going to have to test it.\n\nit's why skincare from abroad is far more effective, healthier, contains less pollutants and is generally higher quality. Korean skin care is known for this.\n\nsorry man. I subscribe to the russian viewpoint on this: these animals are doing us a service and I am greatful to them.", "Yeah that makes sense. I’ll have to look into it more. Thanks for the info!", "He's punching up. That's what takes balls. Look at all the late night people that claim to be comedians. No one is willing to take a risk that might get them heat from the woke. A lot of comedians are talking about this. Many won't do universities anymore because of the heat. Gervais just keeps on saying whatever he wants and thus remains funny.\n\nHumor is subjective, and I understand there are people who dont think he's funny. None of them would be fun at parties, but hey, I can't help that you have the personality of a saltine cracker.", "Going vegan doesn't seem like the answer either. If you live in a temperate climate you have very little chance of having locally grown protein sources. So... anywhere in the UK, a lot of places in europe and the US, etc. So those protein sources like lentils, pulses, etc. have to be shipped or flown in and ship strike is far more horrifying than a quick death after a life designed to keep an animal comfortable and healthy, and its not just ship strike, the impact of shipping pollution on cognitive development is horrifying in cetaceans and fish and the longer the food miles the more animal habitats disturbed or destroyed to transport the food... And yes I know not all farming is sunshine and rainbows but buying local at least allows you far more control over where you supply meat, the conditions the animal lived and the way that farming practice impacted the environment.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nThere is no such thing as existing as a human without compromising the lives of other animals. But I'd rather take direct responsibility for the animals that died to put food on my plate than pull a Pontius Pilate and think that's the answer to the problem.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nEdit: I do very much agree people should be eating far less meat and avoiding shipping anything in where reasonable and choosing meat with far more thought than \"oh five pack of steaks from freezer section for cheap\" though.", "Depends where you live.", "So your argument is that you’d have to ship veggies and that’s worse than animal torture? Bro are you forreal? That’s some wild gymnastics to justify an immoral position.", "punching up at who?\n\nmarginalized people who are tired of being the butt of jokes, people asking for egalitarian treatment? gay people, women? that's \"up\"? how is any of this funny? \n\n>Gervais just keeps on saying whatever he wants and thus remains funny.\n\nhow is that funny? I don't really think he's funny, and you aren't laughing because he's funny. you're laughing because you feel vindicated. that's where his popularity comes from, he vindicates his fans. And his fans in turn insult and demean people who criticize him because all his \"comedy\" personally vindicating. By criticizing him, now I'm criticizing you. See how that works? how is he any different from whatever right wing podcaster whose fans do the same thing?", "Well if you want to entirely misread my comment in bad faith, sure. Do you know how much pain and suffering shipping causes to aquatic life? I choose to make a conscious choice to actively reduce the suffering my surviving causes. I choose to acknowledge that if I were to opt for shipped in protein sources (which I would have to do given my geographic location) then I would be contributing to serious harm to animals that is in no way legislatively controlled or regulated and realistically can't be. You can't prevent ship strike, or the painful developmental damage caused by pollution from shipping traffic to young cetaceans, or the harm caused to the food chain leading to severe and drawn out death and devastation to aquatic species. Because of this I choose instead to opt to consume small but sufficient amounts of locally produced meat of varied cuts (and other produce) from high welfare farming systems that don't involve the death of endangered species or destruction of an extremely unstable and impossible to recover ecosystem... instead of, like you, choosing to pretend my lifestyle is morally superior to anyone else's and trying to soapbox on a reddit thread.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nWhen 3D printed meat becomes an affordable and widely available option I'll gladly switch to it. But trust me \"bro\" I considered going vegan before I got into animal science as a career path and began studying the impact of shipping on cetaceans.", "also it's pretty silly that this video is anthropomorphizing a rabbit specifically to make people feel sad when the bottom line is a rabbit and an human are not the same thing.\n\nim not saying testing on animals is all good, but... it's pretty silly to act like they have feelings like us too.", "Awww, you're radicalized and don't even know it. Sad thing. Maybe you can find a way out by being a productive member of society.", "...Why do you think animals don't have feelings? Have you ever had a pet?", "Why do you think that stopping animal farming would be hugely detrimental? Do you mean economically? I only see benefits in terms of the ethics and environment. I would imagine that economically, if we put all of the subsidies we're putting into animal farming into other things we could generate a lot of new jobs like mushroom farming etc. \n\n\nI don't know much about the economic side, though.", "My impression is that the 'vast majority' of human cultures traditionally consume much less meat than modern diets. Having meat once or twice a week is a totally different story than several times a day. \n\n\nHow much meat do you consume, out of curiosity?", "idk much about his comedy aside from his mainstream stuff. ill check out what youre talking about. didnt know he had edgelord fans lol", "> where's that reddit thread from the one researcher who did testing on animals?\n\nHere's one: [\"Its as grim as this portrays.\"](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qcdky9/save_ralph_a_short_film_with_taika_waititi/hhfx0zz)", "i dont think animals dont have feelings.\n\n\nI'm saying they probably don't have feelings in the same way humans do and it is kind of silly to anthropomorphize them.", "What do you think about project drawdown and regenerative farming? \nrandom leftfield question but i don't meet many farmers living in a city.", "Haven't read anything into it and your comment is the first I've heard of it, so I'll read into it if I get a chance.", "Feel free to refute it if you want. Throw any link in there.", "Well, just refute it then if it's incorrect. It seems you wont because that is the sad truth of the industry. \n\nOh and just an aside.... i'm not actually a vegan chef... it is just a handle that brings out all the people that just believe what they think is fact. It is so easy to google something but you can't even do that lol", ">it's why skincare from abroad is far more effective, healthier, contains less pollutants and is generally higher quality. Korean skin care is known for this.\n\nI mean, what can I say to this unfounded, marketed, geographically nonsensical argument. Where is this abroad you speak of? Which pollutants are in which cosmetics from where? Obviously you are not familiar with asian whitening products scandal etc. \n\nDon't generalise.", "Cool.", "Wanna hang out?", "My computer is full of desires, I have to use insulative materials to keep the desires in check and make them work for me.\n\nHeck there's computers that can pass testing for self awareness better than a rabbit can.\n\nI highly recommend watching Robot & Frank, not just for this topic, but a better respect for what 'individuals' really are. (Trying not to spoil the plot.)", "Your computer doesn't have a desire, if you consider the flow of electricity, the electricity doesn't care if it follows the path you lay out for it through insulation or not. Either are equal. A rabbit has a desire, no matter what I do as an individual the Rabbit will never want to die, or experience pain, for example. \n\nObviously I'm not advocating that animals are equally sentient, nor that we live in a Disney movie where the only thing separating humans and other animals are language skills. Maybe one day a computer will have desires and my opinion will apply to that. I was hoping that link was a documentary exploring Rabbit sentience, but it does look like a fun movie and I'll likely watch it soon. But unless you can prove a rabbit has the some lacking capacity for thought as an insect, I'm standing by my statement. Limited sentience is not a reason to abuse a creature.", "lol if you don't know anything about skincare just say so instead of embarrassing yourself\n\nlook up how korean sunscreen works and then delete your post", "see, this is the sort of fan I'm talking about. He caters to people like you so you say shit like this. I think the kids call this \"simping\"", ">korean sunscreen\n\nI mean you know Korea is cruelty free for about 5 years? And I guess you're American because the Korea and EU guidelines are much more similar to each other. \n\nAlso... there isn't one types of \"Korean\" sunscreen. You send like a lunatic that gets all their info of insta.", "So. Blow up the ark Noah built and eat one /test on the on the other? I'll be honest i pest alot so it does hit... like it does get to me.. yet I kind of blame my self because I feel I need those products for healthcare reason. Yet should i be to blame because magine your washing your hair go blind or Lord forbid you go deaf..? so basically if I make sense would you rather die because you starve or because humans feel the need to be good smelling and beautiful? At the end of the day I think the message could be \"you stank so what.. God appreciate you, your vegan or not god appreciate you.\" I think this just tell you about how to judge...yet shouldn't that be wrong as well idk. I got in trouble for feeding the feral and that probably why there easy capd I don't think I'll find my answer.", "Well I remember watching a poetic person explain that everything, even electricity, is trying to find the lowest point possible, seeking ground.\n\nWithout language to discuss the desire, I agree it's hard to quantify, but we can demonstrate it easily enough.\n\n*SPOILER ALERT* \n\nThe comment about Robot and Frank was aimed along the lines of language and memory. In that movie an old man, Frank, is in a tricky legal bind because he needs supervision but he is a curmudgeon that nobody can be around.\n\nHis son is a robotics wiz and delivers a robot that is cutting edge in terms of self-learning and human assistance features. Frank is upset but his is certain that the robot will be easy to defeat and get rid of.\n\nAfter a bit of 'bullying' from Frank, the robot starts to prove useful and Frank almost seems to feel badly for his early efforts to be cruel to the robot. \n\nAt one point the robot is leveraged to commit a small crime with Frank using the AI features to swindle the robot into being an accomplice. At one point Frank is even saved by the robot AI realizing it has to 'cover' for Frank during an inquiry by providing specific facts that help steer the discussion away from Frank's guilt.\n\nThis relationship is constantly explained as the robot AI learning who Frank is/remembering previous visits and forming a 'personality'. \n\nBy the end of the film Frank has done something really criminal, he's done for the moment the police inspect the robot. Of course the robot AI comes to the conclusion that Frank is at risk and explains to Frank that it can wipe it's entire memory, but doing so will lose all the 'personality'.\n\nFrank has no choice, the Robot resets and man, it's a tear jerker moment, because you realize that those memories were a 'person' and it just died. \n\nThis movie is a double edge sword because we're just robots, and what makes us 'people' is our memories, which fade and change or worse.", "Don’t care", "this is sad im going to save you ralph" ]	261	videos	Save Ralph - A short film with Taika Waititi
https://youtu.be/HWPYoE1SNnA	/r/videos/comments/qce8gg/dan_gelbart_workshop_tour_hd/	[ "Who is this guy, and why does he have infinite money?", "https://makezine.com/2015/03/20/18-lessons-smart-prototyping-self-made-billionaire/\n\nI think this is why. Metal 3D printing", "Ah, Creo. that explains it." ]	3	videos	Dan Gelbart Workshop Tour HD
https://youtu.be/uqSe1RarBLg	/r/videos/comments/qcecwr/working_in_customer_service/	[ "Classic", "Working in customer service I wish you could just tell people how you actually feel", "Rocket Power defined my childhood to an extent. This is the first time I've thought about that show in years though.", "I still quote the fish taco bit to this day", "Too real.", "I have always held on to cool-a-rooni", "I did this when I was younger, around the holidays.\n\nPeople would say something along the lines of “hope you get home soon to see the family” or some other well intentioned bullshit and I would reply “it’s no rush, the cemeteries are always open”.", "Since when is pico de gallo \"hot salsa\"?\n\nedit: I mean temperature hot", "A customer like this would absolutely say the pico was too spicy.", "Same, Mainly the \"Yeah sure what ever, IS THAT WAHT YOU WANT\"", "chipotle calls their pico salsa so theyre just one step away.", "[Always has been.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pico_de_gallo)\n\nSalsa just means sauce, doesn't have to be liquid and non-chunky to qualify though. Plus pico uses serranos so yeah it should have a kick.", "Pico de gallo is a type of salsa tho", "Yeah just as much as ketchup is salsa 😂", "But somehow sand in the potato salad.", "Spicy I agree with, it's more the wording of \"hot salsa\". When I think of salsa I already think that it's spicy, and I would consider most pico to be the same, but not \"hot\" as in temperature hot. Maybe it's supposed to be spicy in this context.", "You should probably do a quick Google search for \"salsa\" before you continue making yourself look foolish", "yeah in english they are interchangeable. it's funny to hear the other english cooks at my work call the grill \"picante\" (spicy) though lol", "You should probably Google what ketchup is called in Mexico lmfao. Google is free bud", "Most supermarket salsa will rank itself on a scale of \"mild\" to \"hot\" based on the peppers used, I'd bet the character definitely means spicy, not warmed up.", "I hope so!", "I know they're interchangeable. When I thought about it I guess I consider that any salsa is somewhere on the spicy scale so it seemed weird. That is funny about the grill, I've only ever had heat in that way referred to as \"caliente\".", "Kinda awkward for you now, but given your stance on corn dogs I'm not surprised you struggle with categories.", "Raymundo was a cool motherfucker.", "All day, I can’t explain it. People like this.", "That’s stinks on ice!!", "Then there is the wonderful, “ I want my money back “after you give them everything they wanted.", "[Woogity woogity woogity](https://64.media.tumblr.com/6c50f29110076668b5c667affc639137/tumblr_n0va6wfnJY1rko70jo1_500.png)", "A DVD of Cool Runnings", "Rocket Power was always my favourite of that era of cartoons - it never seemed to be as popular as other shows like Hey Arnold, Rugrats etc but I loved it.", "I worked in a shop and people would be in there for AGES when I have stuff I need to do like going into the back to tidy up/get stock out or whatever, and I would sometimes make half-jokes like \"We might have to charge you rent soon\" or \"Oh I forgot you were still here haha\"", "Damn yeah same. This brought a wave of nostalgia", "Nah, he's way too polite. People get angry at you because they don't know something (or just angry in general).", "Chuys pico salsa can be hot AF.", "I personally don't equate spiciness with salsa. I feel like I've had quite a bit of salsas that had zero spiciness.", "He was stoned off his gourd 24/7, cool af", "Say it, Tito", "EES the fish taco SHHHAAAPPPPEEEED likeafish?", "Paramount Plus has every episode (and a bunch of other old Nick shows). It still holds up.", "I used to work in a bookstore in my local mall, and the store manager would not allow us to tell customers we were closing soon or even close the doors. We weren't even allowed to begin recovery while she was there until after the last customer had left, which sometimes wasn't until 10-15 minutes after closing time.\n\nThey'd have their head buried in a book then look up and out into the mall and see the other stores were already closed, and they'd say to us, \"What time do you close?\"\n\nWe'd reply, \"9pm.\" \n\nThey'd look at their watch or at our clock, see it was ten or fifteen minutes after 9pm, and give us this \"WTF?\" look.", "Rocket Power and The Weekenders were some of the best Saturday morning entertainment you could as for as a kid in the early 00's.", "Christ, what a sad post history you have. I think you need [this](https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/nhs-voluntary-charity-services/nhs-services/how-to-access-mental-health-services/#:~:text=Mental%20health%20services%20are%20free,psychological%20therapies%20services%20(IAPT).", "i bet whatever garbage you watched as a kid is vastly superior and for highly intelligent individuals", "acting superior because someone said a show \"defined my childhood\" is pretty pathetic", "\"There's blood all over that broken ketchup bottle!\" was an oft repeated line with my siblings growing up.", "\"thank you ma'am, your order comes to 11.84, and can i just say, you have the most stunning breasts i've ever seen. Like i want to jump over the counter and just dive into them like Scrooge Mcduck. i want to stick my face in them and just BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. anyways ma'am here is your change.\"", "You can in banking customer service, and if they ask to speak to you boss they will get on the phone and give 3x what you gave. Were good times", "I've definitely had those salsas that are basically just diced tomatoes and some veggies as well. Just seemed odd, clearly people don't agree though." ]	52	videos	Working in Customer Service
https://youtu.be/n4dVMl3DO0c	/r/videos/comments/qceent/gas_station_encounters_the_mikes_hard_mistress/	[ "All those cameras and he doesn't have a clear shot of the license plate to give the police?", "If theres one thing I've learned in life, it's that when a cute girl is in any way flirting with you they are either being paid to or they are stealing from you.", "Yea sure, the police are going to spring into action over 3 dollars being stolen.", ">... to give the police\n\nOh you sweet innocent thing you.", "They'll put all their good men on it. That gas station will get their 3 dollars back no matter what the cost.", "That's the joke.", "Yeah sure, chicken tenders are her favourite thing.", "Seems like the best way to recoup the cost is viral video revenue.", "If I didn’t know better I’d say this is an ad", "Testify:(", "Otherwise why bother identifying them? What are they going to do? Dox them? go to their house?", "He gets his revenge by name and shame, what's she going to do, complain? 😂", "I'll just check with the boys down at the crime lab, they've got four more detectives working on the case. They got us working in shifts!", "\"leads\" 🤣", "I was digging the commentary until he started singing", "He’s got plenty more without the singing. Great channel.", "You certainly don't know better. If you researched this channel you'd see countless videos like this.\n\nStop trying to sniff out a conspiracy", "Does this apply if you are also attractive?", "agreed. The singing made me close it immediately. immediately no.", "I'm here for the singing. Good noir vibes.", "....what are you trying to sell here?", "You don't.", "Imagine being so low you have to steal a can of lemonade.", "But what if I am attractive?", "My attractiveness. For shackles, or hot dogs. Subscribe to my onlyfans and choose your method of payment", "An ad for what, stealing shit? Our products are flying off the shelf and we're making no profit!\n\nTry again, bro.", "well... your not wrong.", "I was mostly joking. \"oh you ugly\" doesn't sound like you were making some deep point about my underlying character, It sounds like you were making a joke too.", "It was a joke, it was funny. get over it.", "I'd imagine you aren't exactly a prize yourself with that sense of humor.", "Wow u ugly and I mean ugly ugly. Simpleton thot lover type of ugly", "Living in your head rent free type of ugly", "The video is removed/private. \n Is there anyway I can see it?", "Is the video available on your end, or just banned in some countries." ]	34	videos	Gas Station Encounters: The Mike's Hard Mistress
https://youtu.be/nd-_UwzSSvQ	/r/videos/comments/qcei8k/crisis_of_conformity_fistfight_in_the_parking_lot/	[ "😂", "🤘🏻", "They had to have gone to commercial break after that to let the SNL stage hands clean up that mess.", "I would enjoy this more if Ashton Kutcher wasn’t in it.", "This is what's left of my generation and I'm here for it. Favorite SNL sketch.", "Usually not an AK fan, at all, but props for this skit and stepping up with mic on Dave G’s part when his mic died", "Noticed and appreciated. It takes a cool head and someone who has done a lot of live performances to do that - amazing team player and the type of awareness that creates awesome unique live experiences." ]	7	videos	Crisis of Conformity - Fistfight in the Parking Lot
https://youtu.be/CrxBCThj1vk	/r/videos/comments/qcerbe/video_my_brother_made/	[ "Sick. Needs more arm animation though for those aerial moves though. They look awkward like the second kid has no arms.", "Thanks for the feedback, im the one who made it btw. he was originally supposed to be because he was wearing a cloak type thing but i totally see what you mean it looks very odd. Thx for pointing this out to me :)", "No problem it was definitely a dynamic fight sequence, really cool." ]	3	videos	Video my brother made
https://youtu.be/CM0aohBfUTc	/r/videos/comments/qcfiva/how_corporates_are_leveraging_trusted_science/	[ "This is an incredibly important video. None of us are immune to propaganda. And, the best propaganda does not announce itself as such. I have a feeling a lot of people are going to read this as a moral attack on Veritasium, but it isn't. You don't have to be a bad person to create misleading content. This is a cautionary tale about the influence of capital on social media. We know that corporations will mislead the public for their own profit. Cigarette companies, oil companies, hell even the milk lobby, have all lied to the public with far reaching PR campaigns in an attempt to sway public opinion in their favor. It's why cigarettes were a status symbol in the 20th century, it's why \"dairy\" is a prominent part of the food pyramid despite 75% of adults having an intolerance to it, it's why information about climate change was suppressed for decades, and it's why autonomous vehicles are being touted as a solution to traffic.", "Yes, but an \"ad\" made by someone who purports to be an educator? It's like if your teacher was like \"alright class next lesson (sponsored by redbull) is about how red bull gives you wings.\"", "So... really? Derek makes a sponsored video, *calls out from the beginning that this is sponsored content,* and people are upset that the video was maybe more glowing about Waymo than if it weren't sponsored? What's next, are people gonna freak out that Top Gun was way too easy on the Navy?\n\nIt's an ad. He said it's an ad. That's how ads work. Are educators/entertainers not allowed to make ads?", "The issue isn't specific to Derek. If you've actually seen the entire video. The issue is not about him making money through sponsorships. \n\n\nThe issue is how corporates are using content creators like Derek to push their narrative. \n\n\nI still love watching Veritasium and Johnny Harris.", ">The issue is how corporates are using content creators like Derek to push their narrative.\n\nBut... that's basic PR. EVERY major company with a halfway competent PR team works with Influencers to advertise their goods and services. This is neither new nor problematic.", "Yeah not as part of the education, a sponsored run or lunch might still be an issue but isn't meant to fit seamlessly as education. A sponsored book reading I've never heard of but it sounds god awful. Kids shouldn't be advertised to in schools at all.", "It's definitely problematic. lol PR is just a fancy term for propaganda and everyone just accepts being sold to all the time it sucks.", "Skip to 25:00, they're outright misrepresenting the truth with sketchy statistics. \n\n>This is neither new nor problematic.\n\nYehh sure.", "So, the problem is that they get popular people to promote their products/services? Who else would they get? Nobody gives a flying F about a rando. The whole purpose is to leverage the popularity and viewership into exposure for their companies.", "I disagree that it's not problematic. Companies do indeed specifically hand-pick influencers to reach out to for brand deals, and Veritasium has the responsibility to avoid situations like this. He took on that responsibility by choice by declaring his channel goal to educate and share science fact.\n\nThe company purposefully selected Veritasium for this promo and it is Veritasium's responsibility to avoid sharing spurious data or risk rightful damage to his reputation. Pretty straightforward and nothing at all personal.", "That by itself isn't the issue. It's pushing their narrative part. Skip to 25:00, you'll see how the truth was misrepresented intentionally using statistics. \n\nRemember how , back in 1960s or 70s, Tobacco companies used cited studies to say cigarette smoking was healthy for you? While omitting the part where it gives you cancer. \n\nWhile this isn't Derek's video is definitely NOT on the same level as that. It's provides a window into how these tactics work.", "Stopped watching Veritasium when he explicitly had an ad for 'flushable wipes' and supposedly 'proved' that they are actually flushable when there is an immense amount of research showing that this is completely and utterly false. Destroyed my trust in anything he says immediately. If he's willing to fake a science experiment directly in an ad, what else would he be willing to fake or lie about. \n\nHere's the '[science experiment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zI9sG3pjVU&t=982s)' he does to prove that flushable wipes are actually flushable.", "What?\n\nCrystal Light having sponsored the absolutely iconic [1988 National Aerobic Championship](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozoTzkCeO-A) did not substantively change the content of the competition, they just had some billboards up and got some callouts from the announcers and hosts. If a local Chick-fil-A sponsors a book reading campaign, it's not as if they're only giving average-quality chicken burgers to children who read Chick-fil-A promotional reading material; the kids are still reading Caillou or whatever the hell kids read these days. That's what you're talking about.\n\nBut if a high school sophomore normally had a science class talking about volcanic processes and the water cycle, then out of the blue one class was about how Mountain Dew® Baja Blast© can be scientifically demonstrated to be the most efficient way to hydrate the human body if you'll just refer to these studies generously provided by our parent company PepsiCo, then you're taking time out of normally scheduled education for advertisement. That's what these YouTubers did.\n\nVeritasium especially - Derek brands himself as a YouTube educator first and foremost. He's free to do what he wants with his channel, but hosting this content on his education channel is unequivocally at least somewhat of a sell out, even if he did independent research so that the material was at least somewhat education and not just talking points from the advertiser. If he'd produced the content and given it to WayMo to host on their YouTube channels, it would be a completely different issue. But of course that's not what WayMo was looking for. They wanted (YouTube) celebrity promotions to drive views.", "He does a lot of these too. One that was all about glorifying Google searches, one that was very Starbucks-centric...I generally like Veritasium, but he feels like the biggest sellout among the science YouTubers I like.", "That's literally every single celebrity endorsement though...", "The problem is that a channel (or in this case a series of channels) that purports to be educational is spreading misinformation at the behest of a corporation. That's not a moral statement. The point isn't that Derek or any other content creators are bad or you are bad for watching them. The point is that \"education\" content creators are now a viable avenue for corporations to spread propaganda. The point of the Veritasium video is NOT to give its viewers a more robust understanding of the workings of autonomous cars. The point is to change public opinion in favor of autonomous cars and Waymo brand autonomous cars in particular. Call it an ad, call it propaganda, either is valid. Just don't call it educational. This should worry you. Just because it's common doesn't make PR campaigns like this normal or ok. The lack of action on Climate Change is a direct result of a PR campaign. Cigarettes being marketed to kids was a result of a PR campaign. Anyone killed by a autonomous vehicle released on the road too soon will be the victim of this PR campaign.", "Damn I like the channel but doing that demo without even showing how much “more flushable” toilet paper is is super disingenuous…", "Wait until you find about about how various corporations selling books and equipment work directly with universities - sometimes paying professors directly or indirectly with perks - to base course around the material they're selling. Not to mention invitations for direct recruiting at shows, presentations, and fairs - but at my university we had an entire semesters course given and assessed by an enormous corporation. All in the STEM field. I'm on the computer side, but it's even worse in things like mechanical engineering. Weapons and arms companies love to slurp up the graduates and put them to work on the next best killing machine.\n\nAll this is to say that you shouldn't be at all surprised that educators will often put monetary interests before the pure education.", "If you believe that the process of doing science has some actual critical thinking then it's very wrong to call a pop-science light entertainment channel like Veritasium a science channel. Science will ask the hard questions. Amazing video by Tom.", "geeze. If you did that experiment with toilet paper as a control, I _wonder_ what would happen.", "I do think the video focused a little too much one _one_ video from _one_ creator, to the point where I'm sure it feels to him more like an attack than constructive criticism. I think the criticism is fair, just that it also applies to other creators, and so even if you draw most heavily from one video it'd be better to point to more people. That way you help divert some of the response that he got from veritasium (for example trying to dispute specific points, which is only distracting from the overall point that science youtubers are letting sponsorships affect their videos too much).\n\nOff the top of my head, Smarter Every Day does a lot of videos I find really cool, but also does things occasionally with support from the US military, which has some questionable implications.\n\nTo be clear though, I do like a lot of both of their videos. I liked the videos on the black hole photography, and I thought the video showing how it's possible turn sub-pixel vibration into sound was incredible.", "I work as a graphic designer and this is the most problematic part imo" ]	23	videos	How Corporates are leveraging trusted science YouTube creators to push their propaganda - Tom Nicholas
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qcfug2/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qcfug2/deleted_by_user/	[ "That is interesting. I will say that I had my second vaccine in February. The nano bots have not kicked in yet. Or have they?", "I mean, scientists have been warning the world of an impending pandemic since at least the 90’s in increasingly worried fashion. But this woman ranting nonsense in a car really had her finger on the pulse eh.", "I mean... Scientists have been warning about a new pandemic for a decade and told us we were unprepared.\n\nMoreover, this whole rambling schpiel is just an anti vaccine whine at the idea of being told to have a mandatory vaccine to protect others.", "Even a broken clock is right twice a day", "News flash OP: There will be another pandemic eventually, and people like you will claim it's intentional, because nothing in your world can possibly happen without a shadowy cabal behind it.\n\nI suppose now I'm behind the next plague because I \"predicted\" it.", "It only endangers other unvaxxed people so if people want to make that choice they should still have a right to. If vaccines are effective then people who are vaxxed have nothing to worry about and the unvaxxed have a right to put themselves at risk the same way they have a right to smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol.", "Except for the people who can't be vaccinated or for whom the vaccination is ineffective due to immune response.\n\nJust like it's illegal to smoke in a car with kids, or drink on the street, or drink drive, or do any personal choice that puts the life of others at risk.", "I don't have to lie to you, asshole" ]	33	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzgPOJPTo_A&ab_channel=AvE	/r/videos/comments/qcfvsk/turning_a_potato_into_a_nut_and_bolt_using_a_lathe/	[ "Potato!", "“Keep your dick on ice”", "-2 points for passing up the opportunity of creating an eye bolt with the potato.", "This guy is so funny. Love the narration." ]	4	videos	turning a potato into a nut and bolt using a lathe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeXZ499FVXE	/r/videos/comments/qcg7t9/100_to_0/	[ "hey, man.", ":)", "Channel 5 of what?\n\nDEEZ NUTZ!", "This clip honestly needs to be a few seconds longer because you’re cutting out the best part. Andrew asks him what’s on his mind and he replies “Not Much.”", "Gail from breaking bad?", "Nah, most americans are apathetic at best", "Amongs the loud people, yes. But there actually is a \"silent majority\" and these are people who don't care enough to vote and just work and fuck and sleep and watch tv and eat and go watch a football game or whatever and don't give a fuck about stuff in the political discourse. They might have specific beliefs if you pressed them on it but in general they keep to themselves\n\nAdmittedly that group probably is getting smaller in recent years, but it's still amazingly big.", "Oh, hi Mark", "HA! Goteem!", "Gotta link?", "I for one am happy to see that Sam Kinison is alive and well.", "Here’s the full video. This bit is at around 9:30 but the whole thing is worth watching…\n\nhttps://youtu.be/B9v6q5YzbGA", "Theres is definitely a mental health crisis in America, but reddits view of America is pretty cherry picked. I wouldn't call it common to see people like that. Most people I meet are friendly and sane", "Incorrect comment.", "9:20 flat earther\n\n10:00 deez nuts original", "pretty confident rebuttal for someone who doesn't live here", "Thanks for sharing that was a good watch.", "All of their vids are extremely good, they are like 3-4 friends behind the channel. Everything from a couple white twins growing up in the ghetto to political protests.\n\nHe also did an interview with Chet Hanks (Tom Hanks son), which made that whole interaction that much better.", "The moment the guy misinterprets Hillary talking about shattering the glass ceiling as breaking the dome of the earth. The reading comprehension skills of theses people.", "The callback to Chet was great. Big up de yute!", "I always wonder how many people think Epstein killed himself.", "Lol what is this stupid shit. I've been living in europe for the last six years and you euros are some of the most mental people I have ever met. Not only that but you just complain and bitch about everything. Just typical euro here always looking over the pond when you and your countries have major issues. Now THAT is sad.", "And your European eyes only see America through this media. I guarantee this is not the majority, but a very loud, but small minority. We have several states, individual states, with a bigger population than the average European countries population. If most of us were like this, the world would be in legitimate chaos.", "grabs megaphone\n\nListen here man that may be true but it's your fault we have to click to accept cookies on every friggin website now!", "This is a protest of like 100 people in one of the most populous areas of the country.\n\nTo give context, the population of Orange County is about 3M. The population of Iceland is 300k.\n\nYou are seeing such a tiny tiny tiny fraction of America.", "Oh bro, I've seen these jackasses here in central europe aswell. Literally the same, spewing the same garbage,......tho authoritarianism is becoming a bigger and bigger problem in my country.", "Time stamped https://youtu.be/B9v6q5YzbGA?t=569", "It's easy to find such a big concentration of mentally ill when you go to these QAnon type rallies and the like. As the French man said, there is crazy people back home, which can be said about any country. \n\n\nI feel like the surge in crazies is due to them coming forward and being more vocal after getting public support from certain politicians.", "All brakes, no gas", "That's pretty much me and honestly just about everyone else I know. We're just living man.", "Too be fair. Americans often see the world through media, too. There are still many who thinks, Germany looks like the WW2 movies.", "Keep in mind, the large majority of voters also don’t talk above politics, they just live their lives and when voting time comes they head to polls.", "Channel 5 With Andrew Callaghan now", "I've honestly never met anyone that views Germany that way.", "Right, but... 100 to 0 instead of 0 to 100, all brakes no gas instead of all gas no brakes :)", "Yo it totally depends on where you live. I’m in the Midwest just outside of a city, but I’m surrounded by people like this. They still fly flags with Trump holding a rocket launcher, they wear hoodies that say “Fuck you if you voted for Biden”. They are violent with regards to masks, etc. Plenty of these people exist outside of what the media shows.", "Reminds me of when I was a little kid reading National Geographic, I was telling everyone that sea turtles have a cast iron gut, like real iron...", "Oh I'm sorry. My reading comprehension is terrible it seems.", "no worries!", "This is the same guy as All Gas No Brakes right?", "I'm not saying they don't, I'm only saying that this isn't the majority of America", "wholesome, i would love see him screaming again afterwards\n\ncheers mate...AS I WAS SAYING...", "I want to respond to this European, too, but you put it as well as anyone could.", "thought he was familiar because of weird satanist arbys guy vibes [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mlPE8pxs4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mlPE8pxs4)", "I mean yeah it’s not common to meet people that are that open about it, but especially in the south it’s not at all uncommon for people like that to exist, they’re just quieter about it or stick to posting things on social media", "Yeah that’s him. He’s not allowed to use that name anymore so he started this new channel a few months ago.", "Yeah we see this but we also see election results. As Europeans, none of us can fathom how someone like Trump could be President. Not only that but 70 Mil. people supported him somehow. That's not really a loud minority. That is a very vocal and a very large part of the population.", "I have. Granted that was back in 2004 and in Florida but I had people seriously asking me how the greeting goes and only to proceed to do a Hitler salute.", "When you only have two parties to legitimately vote for, this is what you'll see. I'm not saying there aren't huge swaths of people that do support Trump, but a lot of those 70 million are voting for the Republican, not the man. Trump left office with the lowest approval rating of any president since it had been tracked.", "Say with passion!", "Nah man, most people just care when the next Kardashian or Bachelor episode is on, most people don’t know a govt official other than president so I can’t believe they care", "Fair enough. And I do take solice in the fact that since his presidency his power has significantly reduced, even among republicans (at least for now). \n\nI think it has more to do with american politics in general that Europeans have a hard time understanding. So many things that are normal for us for decades gets called communist in the US, which is absurd in it's core but that is a whole other topic.", "Is this the same Europe with countries that elect leaders/parliamentarians like Berlusconi, Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage, Duda, Orbán, etc.? I think if you try, you might be able to fathom it.", "Lol, good point.", "The wacky satanic panic stuff that kept going on in this video boggled my fuckin mind.", "Well Europe in itself is very diverse and clearly not everbody has the same opinion on things. Your point is somewhat valid. A thing to think about that though is, that all of these people are shitbags but most of them are smart shitbags. This isn't to say that that's generally better but they are smarter at deceiving their voters. \n\nTrump however is an idiot yet somehow still gets elected.", ">downvotes just shows that I’ve struck a nerve. Exactly what I mean\n\nI love it when someone is wrong and they claim the downvotes prove their point. You're being downvoted because you're wildly incorrect. \n\nMost Americans are tired of all this bullshit. They don't comment on Reddit, they don't post about it on social media, they're just exhausted by it all. Apathetic probably isn't the right word but it's closer to the truth than your comment that everyone is radicalized. But every country has political radicals. We just happen to have ours covered by the media all the fuckin time.", "That interview is fake. Channel 5 is the real shit.", "If you think clips like this represent the majority of Americans, you're probably also in need of a big reality check. You're only seeing the craziest of the crazies, because normal people don't make good YouTube clips.", "TIL Tom Hanks sold his soul.", "u mean parody", "Makeup on the teeth yikes", "Yep. VICE screwed him over pretty bad from what I heard... more info on this H3 podcast: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW7sfNQVD8s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW7sfNQVD8s).\n\nSo if you appreciate the work Andrew and his crew do, make sure to watch and sub to him... and also screw VICE for what they did to him and his crew. Yeah, he signed the contract, but what they did to him shows that they lack integrity.", "I mean it's not a real interview, and therefore it's fake.", ">a lot of those 70 million are voting for the Republican\n\nA lot of those are voting for \"Christian values\" too. Churches have become increasingly involved in politics since Reagan. All a Republican nominee has to do is say they're pro-life and they've got a massive chunk of voters locked in.\n\nAnother big point is that we're a country of nearly a third of a billion people. Our election spending exceeds the GDP of many countries... [Trump's campaign raised almost $2 billion](https://www.npr.org/2020/05/20/858347477/money-tracker-how-much-trump-and-biden-have-raised-in-the-2020-election). It's naïve to think that kind of money doesn't buy influence and disinformation operations. Same goes for the rapid growth of right-wing media and social media bots. They're casting a big net in a big lake and whoever can be the most radical conservative gets the most viewership. The last 5-6 years has shown that it's impossible to regulate.\n\nVoter turnout is a huge issue in this country and our numbers are always abysmal, but Republicans seem to go to the polls. A steady diet of fear and anger from their \"news\" outlets is a good motivator.\n\nDespite all that campaign spending, Trump still lost the popular vote by more votes than any other president against Joe Biden... a 78 year old, right-of-center Democrat, who promised \"Nothing would fundamentally change\" if he was elected.\n\nHopefully that helps anyone from other countries who view Americans as a country of nutjobs at rallies. Most of us are just like you and equally shocked at these people.", "Goes to Mexico\n\n\"Why is everything not yellow?\"", "VICE never hired Andrew or was affiliated with All Gas No Brakes. The producer for his channel was [Doing Things Media](https://www.doingthingsmedia.com/brands/).\n\nhttps://www.thestranger.com/slog/2021/07/26/59454269/all-gas-no-brakes-has-died-but-seattles-own-andrew-callaghan-has-been-resurrected", "Thank you, I've been misinformed.", "Please don't use Florida as your view of the average American. There is a reason we have a meme called Florida Man. In fact, best not to look at most of the southern states, most of them are ass backwards in one way or another. \n\nThere are idiots everywhere of course, but looking at Florida for your opinion on America is like looking at North Korea for your opinion on Asian populations.", ">If most of us were like this, the world would be in legitimate chaos.\n\nUh, it really kind of is. \nPerhaps not most, but let's not pretend it's a fringe minority. There is some serious mental illness sweeping across the states. You only have two political parties and despite the fact that almost no one at all on the GOP side is saying anything remotely sane would be ok if the populous was turned against them, but they haven't! There's still nearly half of the country subscribing to the filth they are shoveling.", "“Any discussion turns to politics”, as you are steering the conversation towards politics lol", "America is also extremely diverse. Keep in mind when you're talking about the US, you're talking about a landmass that is pretty much the same size as the entirety of Europe. We have states larger than some of your countries. Imagine if every country in Europe instead was a state and there was a country called \"The United States of Europe\". Then out of everybody within the entirety of Europe you get to elect one president. I imagine someone in Portugal would have pretty different views then someone in Latvia, who in turn would have different views then someone in Greece or Ireland. That is just a part of the reason you end up landing on someone as out of left field as Trump. Another is the terrible two party system. In 2016 a lot of people didn't want Hillary to be president, so they either voted for Trump or didn't vote at all.", "Farage doesn't belong in that list, though he is a detestable excuse for a human being.", "Would've been great if it zoomed out on a CNN reporter waiting his turn." ]	75	videos	100 to 0
https://youtu.be/CgfEj9kYJV8	/r/videos/comments/qcgaz1/neil_degrasse_tyson_gives_some_examples_of_how/	[ "You mean, ‘Did US taxpayers invent grooved pavement?’ Trickle down? Return on investment for the people.", "I mean it goes far beyond just grooves on pavement, but yes ultimately any of the thousands of NASA spinoffs that find their way to everyday life for us are tax payer funded", "What if instead of a \"Space\" program, the US had a \"Development of Consumer Goods\" program. We could skip all of the trickle down shit and save money too!", "Why not both? Take a couple percent off the “defense” budget to pay for it.", "A serious point made was (to paraphrase): \"the smartest, top of the class people want to explore space!\"; they don't necessarily want to develop consumer goods even if the government paid for it.\n\nIt's ultimately similar to materials science: your kitchenware; sports equipment; vehicle construction and so so much more is due to advances in materials, some of which are pioneered by NASA and space exploration (e.g. heat resistant light-weight materials). \n\nI'm genuinely curious about the people that see something like grooved landing of space shuttles and say \"hey that can be a highway safeguard\" and how that migration happens. Documentary please.", "The Defense Contractors also happen to be very same providers of \"Space Stuff\".", "We do have that. It's the free market.", "Because, as NDT specifically pointed out in the video, 1. there's no money in it for them and B. really smart people don't want to gather together to do mundane things, they want to explore space.", "So trickle down works for government but not business? How?", "US taxpayers pay for the basic research of most of the drugs in the world (through the NIH). Then pharma gets it and tweak it just enough and make a patent so they can charge us for it. And US citizens usually pay more for it than the rest of the world.", "That suicide joke was uncomfy and so misplaced lol.", "Any investment into fundamental research will yield interesting and unexpected offshoot technologies that benefit everyone, it has nothing to do with space specifically.", "Ever see those vacuum experiments? With a fan and a feather in a vacuum, the feather doesn't move at all. Combustion doesn't work either...", "Well, sort of, yeah. \n\nA government is not a business. It does not have to operate on the principles of being profitable. (that's a big can of worms that I'm not opening in this comment)\n\nA government can, and should, spend resources doing activities that are of a net benefit to society, even if those activities are not directly profitable to the government. \n\nA business, especially a publicly owned business, has a primary requirement for making a profit. Sometimes a business provides a net benefit to society in pursuit of those profits, but it's not a requirement. \n\nSo, yes, a government doing things with the intent of benefitting society is more likely to create effects that trickle down to that society. \n\nI am not going to get into a discussion about whether or not our government is currently engaged in that, or whether a government needs to operate for profit like a business does.", "Can someone TL:DR this plz?", "Want to help prevent car crashes? \"Nah not cool\" \nWant help prevent the spaceshuttle from crashing? \"Say no more fam\"", "What are you on about? Ofcourse it does. It's not pushing away from air. It's pushing away the object It's coming out of. Like mini explosions pushing it from point of combustion.", "[Fan in a vacuum](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtJT5gFwNjg)\n\nWhat are they using for propulsion and steering in space? Don't you need oxygen? \n\n[Zoom in on the LEM](https://www.wallpaperup.com/uploads/wallpapers/2013/09/07/144189/e9fb45b7a94880961c821a439a179e30.jpg)", "That's exactly what I was thinking. In the end it comes down to funding. Grooves on pavements isn't some mind-blowing technology only the smartest of the smart can come up with. The difference is that, if somebody suggests such an improvement for road safety, they will have to spend time and money for the concept and testing and no matter the cost, people will be like \"oh so some grooves in a pavement costs that much? Way to go wasting our tax payer's money.\" If it's for NASA then nobody asks how much it costs and even if, it is easily justified for most people because it's probably so complicated that no average Joe might understand it. \n\n \n\nedit: this reminds me of how Elon Musk runs his companies. He says innovation is key and should be rewarded. Successful innovations should be highly rewarded whereas failed innovations should not be punished. if you have a boss who looks carefully on how much you spend rather than what you're trying to do, you will always have the burden of thinking \"what if it fails?\". Even the simplest idea will make you question yourself and think \"well, if it fails I will be in trouble whereas if I don't do anything everything will be fine anyways.\" I guess NASA thrives on innovation and money plays a smaller role whereas technology for improvements of road safety is more mainstream and money oriented.", "There’s grooved pavement? I have never seen that in Australia.\n\nBut then we use asphalt for those kinds of applications which has it’s own texturing.\n\nYou won’t see concrete on roads here. Just driveways and multi-story inside car parks.", "Who decides what is a net benefit to society? Who is society? Every government action harms someone. So those it harms are not part of society?\n\nWhere does a government, which is only people, get the right to steal money from other people? The ethics of that situation means it is also okay for people to take their money back from the government, including interest due to lost opportunity cost of the stolen money.", "A society is a group of individuals involved in persistent social interaction, or a large social group sharing the same spatial or social territory, typically subject to the same political authority and dominant cultural expectations. Societies are characterized by patterns of relationships (social relations) between individuals who share a distinctive culture and institutions; a given society may be described as the sum total of such relationships among its constituent of members.\n\nMore details here: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society> \n\n\n\nThis comment was left automatically (by a bot). If I don't get this right, don't get mad at me, I'm still learning!\n\n[^(opt out)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/ozztfy/post_for_opting_out/) ^(\|) [^(delete)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/q79g2t/delete_feature_added/) ^(\|) [^(report/suggest)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot) ^(\|) [^(GitHub)](https://github.com/TheBugYouCantFix/wiki-reddit-bot)", "Are you serious? Newtons third law? What about oxygen? The gas goes one way, the object the other. You think you need air to move stuff? How would a fan blow in a vacuum without air? They aren't using fans to steer things in space so what point are you making?", "Imagine two people pushing each other in opposite directions in space. What happens; they float off in opposite directions. It's the same principle. You have in your head that a rocket works the same as a fan but it doesn't. A fan cuts trough mass around itself to displace a volume. A rocket creates energy and pushes it out of one side against the object itself. It creates the pushoff between itself and the object. If anything air holds acceleration back. If you reverse your theory rockets would be faster under water than in the air. They don't, they go slower.", "They're most likely a flat earther. I've heard the \"rocket engines don't work in a vacuum\" argument lots of times", "NASA does research for space program and develop technologies. Sometimes those technologies find their way into applications for everyday life for us. The two examples used were:\n\n1) grooves on space shuttle runways found their way into highway offramps to prevent crashes\n\n2) laser guidance system used for capsules docking with another in space were used in LASIK surgeries to monitor small eye movements when cutting", "A rational person would respond with an argument rather than just downvote. Someone suffering from cognitive dissonance would just downvote and move on.", "If a business doesn't benefit society better than other businesses, there are good odds the business will die, which is very bad for profits.", "I'm no longer at work, so I'll engage a little bit, as long as you argue in good faith. \n\nWho is stealing money? Are you referring to taxes?\n\nTaxes are part of the social contract that we have between each of us, and is an agreement to contribute to the running and maintenance of the government which provides mutual benefit to all of us. \n\nDo you argue for a 100% unregulated free market economy with no recognized central government?\n\nI didn't downvote you, btw. I'll even bring you back up to positive.", "That's not true. A business can benefit a small set of customers and remain profitable, regardless of whether it benefits society writ large. \n\nThe existence of those businesses is ok. As long as they pay their required taxes, then there is no requirement to work for the greater good. Nor should there be. \n\nThat is the government's job.", "I think it is true, depending on how you look at it. Benefiting a subset of citizens within a society is still benefiting the society. Businesses are driven by need. If there is a need, someone will seek to fill it, and if someone could fill it better for cheaper, they will likely succeed. The government also has programs in place to benefit a small set of \"customers\". People pay plenty of taxes every year to have the government supply other people with services they themselves do not need in that moment. I'm not saying you're wrong, for the record, I partially agree with you, you made some good points.\n\nIf the government regulates the private sector to prevent businesses from providing services that they themselves want to provide (like internet, healthcare, road service, etc.), the government can charge whatever they want, unchallenged by any competition. That's a forced monopoly, and I really hate monopolies.", "Appreciate you. Where is this social contract? When did you explicitly consent to it and all its tenets?\n\nIf I wash your car without you asking and demand payment, did I do you any good?", "I meant combustion. I thought you need oxygen for combustion.", "Yes, filling the needs of even a small part of a society does generally still benefit society as a whole. Except in cases where the benefit of those few causes actual harm to a larger part of that society. \n\nBut at the end of the day, businesses still operate for the purpose of making money. The benefit they provide to society is not primarily driven by altruism, in most cases. But you are right to an extent: usually, to make money, you have to fill a need that people have, which provides benefit to those people. \n\nMy point is that the government doesn't operate for the primary purpose of making money. Their primary purpose is to provide common benefit to the society they govern, even if they don't turn a profit. \n\nThat benefit is sometimes in the form of physical products, such as roads and other infrastructure. Sometimes it is less tangible, such as security and freedom. Other times it is in the form of services such as healthcare. \n\nI would also argue that the greatest benefit that a government provides, and what I think the government's primary role should be, is regulation. Specifically, regulation that is in the interest of the common good of society, and ideally without undue burdens on competition in a free market. \n\nAs for your example of healthcare being something that a government might take over and regulate private companies out of business or out compete them with public money... Do you think the government wants to be in the business of healthcare? I don't think they do. \n\nBut, the private sector has created a situation where they are causing actual harm to the many, for the benefit of the few. Regardless of whether you think socialised medicine is a good thing, I don't think anyone truly believes that the private sector is doing a great job for healthcare. \n\nIdeally, the government would create and enforce strict regulations on the industry that ensure adequate outcomes at reasonable prices, while allowing room for private companies to compete in the space. Unfortunately, the system that exists has created a state of regulatory capture where the private companies effectively control the outcomes of government regulation to ensure that their profits are not hurt, despite the harm to society overall. \n\nThis is creating a backlash where the government is going to end up finding itself running the sector entirely, using public money, and forcing obedience of the private sector, rather than competition. \n\nSorry for writing a book.", "It's implicit in your participation in society. \n\nYou don't explicitly consent to it. It's more like one of those \"by continuing to browse this website, you consent to our use of tracking cookies\" contracts. \n\nYou have until you get a (real) job to opt out before you start having to pay your side of the contract. \n\nIt's not necessarily fair, but it is of net benefit to everybody. \n\nYou can, of course, go and live in the jungle somewhere that nobody can find you and be 100% self sufficient without ever having the government \"steal\" from you. \n\nBut, you can't complain about taxes on Reddit from that jungle ;)\n\nBut seriously, I understand your point. The problem is, how else would you do it? What system would you implement, assuming you were God emperor for a day, that wouldn't put any sort of taxation burden on society?\n\nWe've gone on a journey of many tens of thousands of years to arrive at the various systems we have around the world today. In that entire span of human civilization, can you show me a single society that functioned successfully without a common buy in for the benefit of the community as a whole?", "Medieval Iceland comes to mind. 300 years of no central government.\n\nContracts require explicit informed consent to be valid. You can call a state hierarchy a social order but not a contract. I like to let people live how they want to. Part of that is that people will individually form explicit contracts with each other to get the services that you would expect from a central government.", "With no central government in medieval Iceland, do you think that people still didn't have to contribute some part of their labor to the common good at the local level? \n\nModern society would not function with the systems of central government that we have. People individually making contracts with each other to provide goods and services would lead to either complete anarchy and chaos and the immediate collapse of civilization or such a depressing future where everyone is effectively a slave to a corporate overlord with zero recourse. \n\nGovernments are natural and necessary. We can try and do better at governing and making sure the people that are governed feel like their contributions are worth while, but to have no government at all? It would be horrific.", "You have made several assertions with no basis in fact. I am not convinced of a single one of your assertions. Do you have any reasoning to support your assertions? \n\nNo, there is no evidence that medieval Iceland had the equivalent of taxes. People trading voluntarily naturally leads to the common good because whatever happens voluntarily among people is by definition what they see as the common good.", "Tell me where some people get the right to rule other people in your world? Why are some people politically inferior to others?", "A tax is a compulsory payment of some article of value towards a governing body in order to provide for the function or maintenance of that governing body. \n\nUsually this is in the form of some sort of financial contribution. But it doesn't have to be. It could be a product of an individuals labor, or it could be the service of an individual. \n\nIn medieval Iceland, you may not have had to pay money directly to your chieftain, but you were required to provide military service. That is still a tax, and a tax that might be considerably more heavy than any tax you are paying today, if you're unlucky. \n\nEven if you don't get killed or maimed, you still lose time from your normal activities to serve in the military. Time is a resource that one can trade, with work, into money. So, effectively, you are still paying a financial tax to your chieftain for the benefit of living in a society that has a centralized (though small) governing body that provides for the common good (common defense in this case).", "Never heard of this compulsory military service. They didn't have a military.", "Why do some people get the right to rule other people in your world? Why are some people politically inferior to others?", "It's not my world. It's the world. \n\nAnd what do you mean? \n\nNobody should have the inherent right to rule over anybody just based on their existence. I think we probably agree there. Despite that, as a species, we have often implemented that system. \n\nGenerally, that stems from societies that don't have any sort of strong centralized government and then having an individual, or small group of individuals, attain power (usually by force) over others. When those people use that power to consolidate more power, they often create a dynastic class system that benefits themselves and their families while ensuring that others are less able to attain the power required to challenge them. \n\nIn a modern democratic society, (in theory at least, if not always in practice, depending on the country) nobody is \"ruled\" by anyone. They are governed. That governance is performed by a government, and individual people have the rights and ability to participate in that governance to ensure that their concerns are accounted for. \n\nObviously, in practice that can be messy. And you would be correct to say that there are some people that are politically inferior to others, but that is mostly because there are some people that are financially inferior to others. \n\nUnfortunately, those that have the money and power have also been able to use that to influence government to make it easier to keep it, while making it harder for others to gain it. \n\nSound familiar? Of course it does. It's an unfortunate condition of humanity itself, and it can't be fixed. Getting rid of the government won't fix it either, it just removes all obstacles for those that have power to abuse those without it. \n\nThe answer is not no government. The answer is better government. A government that takes into account the natural greed and emotions of humanity and places strict systems and rules within the governmental power structure to protect it from being influenced by those with power.", "Granted, my research on the topic has started only today, but a quick read of Wikipedia says:\n\n>The most powerful and elite leaders in Iceland were the chieftains (sing. goði, pl. goðar). The office of the goði was called the goðorð. The goðorð was not delimited by strict geographical boundaries. Thus, a free man could choose to support any of the goðar of his district. The supporters of the goðar were called Þingmenn (\"assembly people\"). In exchange for the goði protecting his interests, the Þingmaðr would provide armed support to his goði during feuds or conflicts. The Þingmenn were also required to attend regional and national assemblies.[2]\n\nYou could choose who you supported as chieftain, but you did have to serve whomever you supported.", "Okay. So, a cultural phenomenon.", "We agree a lot.\n\nThe problem is that many people explicitly do not consent to the government people who assume they rule over the other people. That presents an ethical problem. Explicit denial of consent has superior basis over any supposed implied consent. Just as we say that a woman who says no to sex, her word takes precendence over any suggestion of consent by body language or clothing. No number of people can ethically vote to control a minority, just as no number of people can gang rape a victim ethically.\n\nGovernance does not imply a singluar government. Plenty of industries do not have a singular trade organization to rule over them. They develop multiple competing trade organizations voluntarily that together have the effect of good governance over the entirety of the industry.", "But what you imply, perhaps intentionally, is that government cannot exist ethically. Period. Because as long as there is one person in a society that disagreed with a rule or decision, then they are a minority that is having someone else's will imposed on them. And as long as there are two or more people on this Earth, then there will be disagreements. \n\nEven trade organizations fall into that problem. Hell, any organization of any kind that includes more than one person is going to be unethical, because there will at some point be a disagreement over the direction an organization goes. \n\nSo, while I won't disagree entirely with your premise, I will instead ask you a question. \n\nSo what? \n\nWhat can realistically be done to change that outcome? What system is empirically better, fairer, and more ethical, but can still manage to govern at the scale of a Nation, than the general style of system we have now?\n\nTo paraphrase Churchill: Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried. \n\nNo system of government is going to be perfect, because governments are made up of people, and people are imperfect. Maybe after the AI revolution takes over the planet, our robot overlords will govern us with an even hand. \n\nUntil then, I feel it is a much more worthwhile pursuit to try and understand the benefits of what we have compared to what came before, and where it falls short, then work to improve it as much as we can. \n\nSimply stating that the current form of government is stealing from us and the medieval Icelandic Commonwealth had a more fair and equitable form of society doesn't do anything to improve the world we live in today (besides, they had slaves and women were not equal). \n\nHow about sharing ideas of what aspects of that society were positive and how could they be successfully implemented in today's modern, complex world of interdependencies and reliance on basic common foundations of infrastructure and services that benefit all. \n\nAnd as for the issue of consent, because I think that is a key pillar of your view of government (and a fair one): if you do not consent to the rules and policies implemented and enforced by the government you live under, then leave. Unless you're posting from North Korea, you have the freedom to move to another country that follows a code that more closely aligns to yours. \n\nIt's not an easy thing to do. My family immigrated to the US for a better life. It was expensive and time consuming. But it was absolutely worth it. \n\nSo if you truly believe that you cannot countenance the manner in which your country governs your society, then leave. \n\nIf you stay, then you consent.", "Well, yes, you do need oxygen for combustion. That is why rocket engines carry oxidizer on board. It's what makes space travel difficult, because you have to carry both your fuel, and the oxygen you need to combust it with. \n\nBut what does that have to do with a fan and a feather in a vacuum?", "A cultural phenomenon, or a natural result that always occurs any time you have multiple humans living together for any extended period of time?", "It is false to say that those who stay consent when they actively do not consent. Again, that is ethically the same as saying that a woman who does not fight the rapist consents to the rape.\n\nIf consent does not matter to you, then you cannot complain when someone violates your consent by stealing from you or violating your body.\n\nThere is no necessity to have one group of people rule over millions. Disagreements can occur without violating a person's property or body. If a person disagrees with a particular decision made by someone else he has a true contract with, then the contract rules the dispute. If there is no explicit contract between them, then they may both agree on a mediator to help resolve their dispute. There is never a situation which requires unilateral political dominance of some over others when no crime has been committed. And by crime, I mean crime by natural law, as understood as violation of natural rights that we all instinctively know we have. These are traditionally though of as negative rights; negative meaning they are rights to not have certain actions done to people, namely violations of property or body. No legislative body is necessary to implement these laws, as they are what we all instinctively know we have.", "Do you genuinely believe that a modern human society could exist like that?\n\nAs in 8 billion people making and enforcing personal contracts amongst each other and individually agreeing on dispute mediators when they have a disagreement?\n\nThe world as we know it would not, and could not, exist in that environment. We certainly wouldn't be having this conversation, because technology would not have progressed past what those medieval Icelanders had. \n\nPure free market capitalism, just like Marxist Communism, both work wonderfully. In theory. On paper, where you don't have to worry about the individual, personal greed of humanity. \n\nIn the real world, they are 100% impossible. At least, for any significant time and population size.", "None of what you just asserted has any basis in fact.", "There is no need for each of 8 billion people to have individual contracts with all others. Not sure why you would assume they would. Reality is not limited by your imagination.", "The majority of this conversation has been conjecture on both sides. So?", "I never said that 8 billion people all needed to have contracts with each other. But the system you are describing could not work for the population density we have in the world today. \n\nThere are too many interdependencies that require large scale treaties and agreements between large amounts of people. \n\nIf you can't see how that would be impossible in your system without having central governing bodies, then I'm not the one with a limited imagination.", "> There are too many interdependencies that require large scale treaties and agreements between large amounts of people.\n\nSo they can agree to agreements. Again, no need for government there. But there is no need for explicit agreements between more than a few hundred people. The burden is on you to show there is that need.", "You're the one arguing against consent and arguing for violation of rights. I think your burden of proof is higher because you want to commit massive crimes against people.", "This is all a hypothetical discussion based on conjecture and idle thought. The burden of proof is on nobody. For example, you haven't provided a factual basis for any of your own assertions either, but that's ok, because this discussion thread is not a peer reviewed scientific analysis of differing economic and social systems. \n\nSo, back to the discussion. Do you think that individuals, and/or small groups of people could develop the industrial and technological base required for the invention of our modern world? Could supply chains cross the globe to provide resources and material goods from one group of individuals to another?\n\nAssuming they could, and the modern world came into being, could you have things like air transport survive without a central regulatory authority?\n\nCould you have cellular or global internet communications without a central regulatory authority?\n\nEven if you had a majority of people or groups agree to a standard of regulation for, say, cellphone communication, what if a different group of individuals wanted to use that part of the spectrum for something else that would interfere? \n\nDoes the first group have the ethical right to prevent the second group from pursuing their own system? If not, how could they possibly exist together?\n\nThese are the things that you need a central governing or regulatory body to develop and enforce. For the greater good of all in the community. Even if there are some people that want it to be different, the wants and desires of an individual, apart from those basic natural human rights like being able to eat, live, have shelter, etc, cannot infringe on the needs of the greater whole. \n\nThe wants of an individual should be accounted for whenever it's possible and practical to do so, but the lack of explicit consent from every individual of a society cannot, and should not, derail the progress of that society as a whole. \n\nUnless you're arguing that human civilization should only exist at a basic agrarian level and should not be able to support the population that we have right now. If that is the case, then we have a fundamental disagreement that is unlikely to be bridged no matter how much we write here.", "No no no. You're advocating for states. You have to demonstrate how some people get the right to rule others.", "I've already explained this to you. \n\nAs a society, we have built a system where we elect individuals to manage functions that are designed to provide for the common good. \n\nIn a modern society, we require individuals to specialize. Not everybody can do everything. Having a smaller group of individuals who are elected by the larger group (there is your consent) to manage certain aspects of society is how you end up with people having the ability to create laws and regulations that others have to follow. \n\nIf they do poorly, then they get removed from that position. \n\nWhat about this do you not understand?\n\nJust because there are individuals who don't agree with who the group elected you think it is some violation of the cosmic sanctity of an individuals right?\n\nThose people can fuck off and leave. Or, they can participate. Run for office. Come up with a better solution that other people agree with. \n\nBut they don't. Because we don't have a better solution at this point. And they don't leave because they can't admit that they actually like the benefits they receive from the society they live in, but just want to whine about the handful of things that they disagree with personally but can't be assed to do anything about.", "You haven't explained anything about how people get the right to aggress against others. You have just said \"that is just what happens now.\" I'm looking for a reason; not what is done. Some people specialize in murder; doesn't mean that that is a good thing. I don't receive any benefits from government stealing from me. I could get all the services I want just from trading peacefully with people I want to.", "Also, it doesn't matter how many people vote for a thing; people cannot delegate a right they do not have. Namely, nobody can delegate the right to tax anyone else because nobody has the right to tax anyone else. I have no right to tax you. I know this because if I hold a gun to your head and demand money or steal your property when you're not looking in order to help pay to build a road that your neighbors want but you have no interest in, you would object. You also don't think I have this right to tax.", "How about answering any of my questions on how your hypothetical society would be successful with something beyond \"people will make contracts and trade with each other.\" \n\nEven your example of the Icelandic Commonwealth doesn't hold water when you look at it beyond the surface level. \n\nAs a \"libertarian/anarcho-capitalist\" dream society, it failed. It took a couple of hundred years, because societal changes happened more slowly then compared to now, but ultimately their system fell into the same trap as every unregulated free market does. \n\nPower was consolidated slowly over generations into the hands of a much smaller group, before they were ultimately absorbed by the Norwegian (I think) kingdom. \n\nThat is why your dream society is impossible. It doesn't matter how perfectly it could work of everyone abided by the same general set of rules. As a system, humans are greedy and conniving. They will ALWAYS seek to take advantage over others when possible, with the intent of gaining a position of relative power and wealth. \n\nSo your opinion on whether anyone has a \"right to tax\" anyone else, or if I am advocating for \"aggression\" on others is completely immaterial. \n\nIf I am wrong, point me to one single example of that not being true in the entire existence of the human race. \n\nI'll be waiting.", "How would it not work? It seems obvious to me that people work better together when not forced into things. Somalians were better off after their government collapsed. More access to food, cell phones, and electricity.\n\nI know why you refuse to answer me. It's because you know nobody has the right to rule and you can't bear to admit it. Too much pride.", "Hi, __Bibopadoo__. Your comment contains the word ~~Somalian~~.\n\nThe correct nationality/ethnic demonym(s) for Somalis is __Somali__.\n\nIt's a common mistake so don't feel bad.\n\nFor other nationality demonym(s) check out this website [Here](https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/People/Nationality/Adjective)\n\n___This action was performed automatically by a bot.___", "You are really arguing that Somalia is doing well?\n\nDo you think that Al Shabaab and the warlords don't collect taxes? Do you think they ask for the consent of individual Somalis for the rules they impose?\n\nIt's been a long day of yard work. I needed that chuckle. Thanks. \n\nCan you be serious though? I've been discussing things in good faith. I've explained how activities beyond the basics of an agrarian society are unable to work without central authorities. \n\nWe will have to agree to disagree on the definition of consent, because I believe that a functioning democratic society provides an adequate level of consent. \n\nWe don't disagree on the topic of having a right to rule. Ruling implies the ability to impose a will on another without them having any recourse. The system we have governs not rules. And people have the ability to effect change through voting if they do not agree. They can also leave. \n\nCome on, give me an example of a pure free market that hasn't ended up in monopolies or a group of elites controlling everything.", "That's what happens when you stupidly don't read what a person says but purposely misinterpret what he says. I said they're better off, not that they're doing well compared to say 1st world places. This is a fact. \n\nhttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0147596707000741\n\nThere is no difference between ruling and governing. \n\nSo you are in favor of gang rape then. Gang rape is just democracy; an adequate level of consent. After all, the victim could have just left at some arbitrary warning sign. \n\nEvery monopoly sprung from a government restricting competition in the market.", "It's always so bizarre to me when people say \"we need a government to prevent a government from arising.\" Like wtf are you on?", "Well, I will say that I have enjoyed this discussion. Thank you for remaining civil and responding. I feel however, that we have probably reached the logical conclusion of the debate as neither of our answers are changing or bringing up new points of discussion. \n\nIf we were at a bar, I'd buy a last round and wish you well, or perhaps change the topic. \n\nLooking at your post history, I've seen you post a lot in that gold and black or whatever it is subreddit. If it is truly open for honest discussion, I may formulate a discussion to ask some questions there, as it is genuinely an interesting topic. \n\nIf you want a serious non libertarian perspective on something in the future, feel free to message me. \n\nCheers.", "Cheers, brother." ]	69	videos	Neil deGrasse Tyson gives some examples of how space program technologies/discoveries trickle down and benefit our civilization
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKrrCEf2di0&t=3s	/r/videos/comments/qcgv5d/game_show_contestant_guesses_correctly/	[ "Da fuq is this?", "A game show called Total Blackout hosted by Jaleel White. Contestants have a number of games they play in pitch darkness.", "American shows seem to be devoid of any sincerity", "Welcome to Costco, I love you." ]	4	videos	Game Show Contestant Guesses Correctly
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qchtko/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qchtko/deleted_by_user/	[ "also: joe could walk the WHOLE TIME!!!!", "at the end when it shows him dancing around like a professional ballerina all while the audio clip of him saying the floor is too cold and if only he could get out of bed he would help them lmao", "/r/grandpajoehate/", "Grandpa Joe is literally worse than Hitl....no, that's not right.\n\nHe's definitely worse than a lotta folks I tell you what though. Swoondoggled that whole family and Charlie's poor mother. Fuck Grandpa Joe." ]	4	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/8C__Whmv8Jc	/r/videos/comments/qchwll/grandmas_boy_animated/	[ "what the hell is this", "https://collider.com/grandmas-boy-animated-scene-smoking-weed/\n\nLooks like a fun little covid project from Allen Covert, but not a full production of anything", "looks fucking stupid", "Well if you're not a fan of the original movie then surely this makes zero sense. But I got a nostalgia fueled laugh out of it.", "Dude I’d totally watch this!", "I am not amused", "You're mom is.", "Is that also a quote from the movie?", "\"You're getting a lion? Why?\"\n\n\"To protect my shit\"\n\n\"Never heard of a dog?\"\n\n\"Dude, you can get past a dog. Nobody fucks with a lion\"", "Ah bummer, I was hoping this was some viral marketing for their animated sequel.\n\nLike, ideally, I just look up, and theres the fucking king of the jungle!", "You know that lions eat deer, right?", "How that movie didn't win an Oscar I'll never know.", "\"I've seen Siri's tits\" \n\nlmao", "We need an entire series of this.", "I was annoyed by the art style. \nI was annoyed by the premise. \nI was annoyed by the voice acting. \nI was annoyed by the \"jokes\".\n\nNow you get to be annoyed by this comment, OP, for making me watch it.", "I unreservedly love the original movie and I will fight anyone who thinks otherwise to the death.", "Dude I totally read that in Dante’s voice", "I discovered Aphex Twin because of this movie and thats one of the many reasons I love it.", "Whoa, chill bro... You know you can't raise your voice like that when the lion's here.", "My huge Techno Spotify list is called Music for Robot Ears\n\nJP is love JP is life", "Whoa, chill bro... You know you can't raise your voice like that when the lion's here.", "Nowadays its pretty much only progressive metal for me, no more techno. Flim, milk man, windowlicker, alberto balsam, boy girl and #4 are on there cause they are special to me.", "I...don’t remember this scene in Grandma’s Boy at all and I’ve seen the movie at least a dozen times. In this from a deleted scene or something?", "Alexa definitely did not exist when Grandma's Boy came out. This is new.", "share link now", "What's it like to be wrong about everything all the time?", "“LOL WEED AMIRITE GUISE” \n\nJesus Christ. Painfully unfunny.", "Here's some Music For Robot Ears\n\nhttps://open.spotify.com/playlist/7dRnCmXG8lUCxfSABDysYm?si=BGVLFZd7QD2UMPCJuTp0og&utm_source=copy-link", "I really really want to see a sequel to Grandma's Boy, at this point an animated movie would be the likely way to go.\n\nI've even got my own mental story for it going, \"Grandma's Boy 2: The Revenge of JP\". Brainasium expands to Japan, where they encounter new rivals in the gaming industry. Unbeknownst to our heros Alex and Samantha and friends, JP has been secretly hired by their Japanese rival to wreak havoc in their flagship games with inside knowledge, backdoor access and malicious coding.\n\nFeatures will include a chase/drift scene with Kane, Jeff meets a love interest playing DDR at a local arcade, Barry goes to a bukake club (for 16 hours) and Dante uses his network of connections to recruit colorful allies along the way.", "Lol if you don't know you don't know", "So why are people saying this is from Grandma’s boy? Does it actually have anything to do with grandma’s boy at all?", "It is characters from Grandma's Boy, voiced by their respective actors in specific place from the movie. Someone must have gotten them together to voice a new animated scene. For what purpose I have no idea." ]	33	videos	Grandma's Boy Animated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmaa_LSHuJA&ab_channel=FOX13TampaBay	/r/videos/comments/qchzhj/nobody_wants_to_work_anymore/	[ "The coffee was 250 degrees F? What?", "And people still give grandma shit about burning her crotch with McDonalds coffee and getting millions.... (She didn't get millions btw, and the case is the most screwed up media BS ever) McDonald's was 100% at fault, knew for years about their hot coffee and poor lids and chose to ignore safety measures... Including, making the coffee too hot; so when the customer got to their destination it was still warm.", "Correct me if im wrong but you cant get coffee to 250 without it being pressurized... I mean go take your best thermometer and go boil water over 212f...", "And she suffered third degree burns on her genitals. She deserved her settlement.", "250 degrees, that is why I came to comment too……\nGet the “F” out of here 250 degrees my ass….", "Why do people that fast food workers like this? They're already working a shit job. \n\nAlso, that chick went ham on that dude lol", "I had to go back at least 7 times in the video to listen again to how the reporter said, \"Fighting with a worker\" she almost says it like..\"FiGhTiNg WiTh A wOrKeR\" or am I just mishearing? Happens at [0:23](https://youtu.be/qmaa_LSHuJA?t=21)", "Hopefully this starts a revolution of independent food establishments. \n\n&#x200B;\n\n&#x200B;\n\nThere is not reason why only a handful can have a 1$ dollar menu. Food is security.", "Lolol why does she say it that way", "No its was 250 degrees Kelvin", "The point is that coffee is almost all water. Water can't be hotter than 212F.", "She deserves getting the millions the courts awarded her, unfortunately she got peanuts when all was said and done. But she was never doing it for the money, she was doing it to hold McDonald's responsible and to get them to admit their faults and protect other consumers.", "Water boils and evaporates at 212 degrees", "That’s just learned inflections of broadcasters speaking delivery. Pretty normal.", "She was initially doing it just to get her medical bills paid. And McDonald's refused. And the jury decided to give her as much as she was (initially) awarded because McDonald's' negligence was so deplorable.", "You shouldnt ~~drive~~ sit in a car with a hot coffee between your legs and take the lid off", "> I mean go take your best thermometer and go boil water over 212f...\n\nYou can do this by adding salt to the water\n\nI have no idea how much it would take to get to 250 or if adding coffee to water has a similar effect, I just know adding salt raises the boiling point", "There's no excuse to treat anyone the way this woman acted and / or a lot of other fast food freak outs. But 2 main factors need to be addressed. \n\n\n\n1. People are usually hungry when they approach a fast food restaurant. \n\n\n\n2. Drive thru wait times and food prices have raised significantly since the pandemic started. \n\n\n\nAlong with people being on edge in general the last few years, the perfect shit storm has made landfall and its unfortunate the employees who are taking the brunt of it.", "It's because the reporter was trying to hold down a burp but didn't want to do another take.", "How did this voice become the norm for news casters? It’s fucking ridiculous.", "Adam Ruins Everything did a real good bit on this", "Nice pun, now “C” your way out", "It wasn’t water. It was coffee. Duh! /s", "She didn't. That's part of the mythology.", "Pfft only if you don't get your McDonald's coffee served at 5 MPa of pressure like I do.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqm4LriprDA", "It can be much hotter, but it boils at 212. So they are saying an actively boiling cup of coffee was sitting on the counter, which is ridiculous.", "That's not what happened", "But jury award doesn't equal payout unfortunately. \n\nSad, and really think they should have been better informed. I think it's been used later in states to actually lift liability damage claims so there is no limit. (Pretty sure some states still have limits, but most don't any more)", "I have a feeling that people are so shitty to fast food workers because there is a cultural stereotype that \"if you work fast food, you are unskilled, lazy, stupid, or a criminal who couldn't get hired anywhere else\" or in other words \"not deserving of respect\". \n\n\nEdit: The only thing that could validate this statement better than the people replying \"Well it's true that most of them are lazy, unskilled, and stupid\" is a video link to them throwing honey mustard at a Wendy's cashier.", "Im glad the lady got paid, but they straight up pulled into a mcdonalds drive thru without cupholders in their car and said \"fuck it, lets get some coffee\" We make choices in life...", "Any sugar in there would help it go higher, too.", "you shouldn't parrot bullshit corporate propaganda, but here we are.", "[Superheating](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superheating) is how. This is how the infamous [McDonalds coffee case](https://www.caoc.org/?pg=facts) which wound up being treated as a by-word for frivolous lawsuits happened. Basically, in order for water to turn into steam, it needs to have access to air. So even though you've heated water to above the boiling point, if there are no nucleation sites (tiny bubbles along the sides of the vessel), the only place it can transition to steam is at the surface. This lets the water under the surface get hotter than boiling. You can see how nucleation sites start boiling when you put a pot of water on, and you'll see bubble streaming up from the bottom of the pot.\n\nThe problem here is that if you introduce nucleation sites by adding something or otherwise breaking the surface tension, the water will suddenly explode into steam. Here's a [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpDs7Xm1uLo) showing the process (warning: do not attempt).", "[Superheating](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superheating) \n \n >In physics, superheating (sometimes referred to as boiling retardation, or boiling delay) is the phenomenon in which a liquid is heated to a temperature higher than its boiling point, without boiling. This is a so-called metastable state or metastate, where boiling might occur at any time, induced by external or internal effects. Superheating is achieved by heating a homogeneous substance in a clean container, free of nucleation sites, while taking care not to disturb the liquid. This may occur by microwaving water in a very smooth container.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Prove it.\n\n She had the cup between her knees while removing the lid to add cream and sugar when the cup tipped over and spilled the entire contents on her lap.\n\nhttps://www.caoc.org/?pg=facts", "Since no one is addressing the title...no one has ever WANTED to work. Work is just what we do because stuff isn't free.", "> Why do people that fast food workers like this?\n\nThey are easy targets. Aren't they just lowlife's? Losers who have no skills so they just flip burgers and work a register at a drive through? You're not supposed to make a living working in fast food duh. /s\n\nIts bullshit, but its easy for people to make themselves feel more superior. Another person they can bully, and take out their frustrations on. Obviously the majority don't physically assault people, but they get off knowing that if they talk shit to them, there is nothing the worker can do. They know if they call corporate, or talk to a \"manager\" then that person risks getting in trouble or even fired, and they get a free meal out of clutching their pearls.\n\nI passed a Wendy's on my way home from work today and the sign out front said Premium Pay $13/hr. The industry will never learn.", "Sure it is.\n\n She had the cup between her knees while removing the lid to add cream and sugar when the cup tipped over and spilled the entire contents on her lap.\n\nhttps://www.caoc.org/?pg=facts", "Probably. the presence of other elements could and probably does alter the boiling point, but likely not by much.\n\nAlso, the infamous McDonald's injury case that fused a woman's labia together was \"only\" 180-190 or so. I suspect the temp is inaccurate in this case.", "Human beings amazing. Will get evicted, refused healthcare, abuse in horrible ways, and so many won't raise the fuss they should.\n\nBut you inconvenience them slightly in a takeout line or a Wal-Mart or something and they throw down like their life depended on that katsup.", "Agreed. I can NEVER understand why people scream and aggressively berate front of house or minimum wage workers. It makes my blood boil. They don't control the prices, they don't control if the restaurant is adequately staffed that day. It surprises me constantly because many of these adult tantrum babies have a job where there is a chain of command and organizational hierarchy which behave in the manner of the establishments that they are violent towards. \n\n&nbsp;\n\nStep one (and the only step): Your order is wrong. You let the staff know and they correct it. It may have taken some extra time but you're an adult and you can wait.\n\n&nbsp;\n\nNow I understand there are some anomalies. I've had some less than savory experiences that I won't get into on this post but the video that I submitted constituted simple things like ketchup and straws.\n\n&nbsp;\n\nMy first job was in food service. I wish every person could get a chance to work food service or retail in order to be patient and actually experience empathy. \n\n&nbsp;\n\nLet's not forget how mentally unhinged and aggressive people have attacked (verbally or physically) minimum waged workers. They deserve better and I'm not surprised that these places are short staffed. I want them to continue shouting, \"F*** You Pay me.\"", "Agreed. r/antiwork also agrees.", "I don't see anything in that excerpt about driving. At the link you pasted, they specify that she wasn't driving when it spilled. She was trying to add creme while seated in her car, which is a reasonable place to do that considering it was served to her at a drive-thru.\n\n>Mrs. Liebeck was not driving when her coffee spilled, nor was the car she was in moving. She was the passenger in a car that was stopped in the parking lot of the McDonald’s where she bought the coffee.", "lol I suppose. Either way putting hot coffee between your legs and taking the lid off is stupid.", "Not immediately. You can get water much higher for a time before it all boils off. 212 is just the temperature that you have to keep it at to start the boiling process.", "Video is 2 years old", "Thanks. Reddit scientists over here have declared this against the laws of physics. Clever group they are.", "I know. It has only increased, especially with mask mandates. If you want I can link a bunch of videos related to that.", "Your link even says she wasn't driving. \n\nProve she was, if its so easy.", "1 large coffee steam, please.", "Adding salt to water raises the temperature a very small amount. Basically negligible when concerning the amount of salt we're used to having in water.\n\n250F would not be obtainable by adding just salt and coffee to the water.\n\nThis idea comes from cooking things like pasta, but is actually kind of a myth. [To raise the temperature even a few degrees you'd have to absolutely ruin whatever you're cooking by completely saturating the water with salt](https://youtu.be/QW7r2RHt6tY?t=500).\n\nIn this case, the coffee was certainly not 250 F.", "Well, I went through high-school and part of college before I learned that fact myself, and I was around when the case hit the news. I actually learned about superheating and nucleation, iirc, from a law class which brought up the case when going over torts and tort reform arguments. So, given that this happened before lots of Redditors were born, I get how it's not common knowledge. Also, I kind of understand why they don't teach high-school students how to create a bomb out of a microwaved cup of coffee, so...\n\nStill, it is something more people should be taught.", "The case you reference indicates the coffee was held at \"180 to 190 degrees Fahrenheit\", which is certainly not superheated. This is not a good argument for claiming the coffee of interest, which is subject to more modern temperature control, could have been 250 F.\n\nAdditionally, a superheated liquid would not sustain that state through being poured into a cup and moved onto the counter.\n\nSuperheating in the case of a microwave is dangerous because it goes from being undisturbed and superheated, to finding nucleation sites and releasing that energy once it is disturbed. The coffee in our case would have had ample opportunities to find nucleation sites and boil, assuming it was ever superheated in the first place. Its not reasonable to state that it was superheated all the way through its journey to the counter.\n\nBoth of the sources you cited to support the coffee being 250F actually support the argument that 250F would not be obtainable if you read them more thoroughly.", "The BK in question is on the bottom of the ocean. Doesn't anybody read the article?", "Their assertion is wrong.\n\nI was more long winded [in my reply](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qchzhj/comment/hhgl2vq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) to them, but the court case does not support coffee reaching 250F and a superheated liquid would not make it all the way through being poured into a coffee cup and moved onto the counter in a superheated state.\n\nThe coffee was definitely not over 212F, never mind 250F.", "Impure water (McDonald's coffee) could go a little higher than 212 but not anywhere near 250.", "This is not how boiling works. It's a common misconception.\n\nYou can think of the temperature as the average kinetic energy of the water molecules. As molecules reach the boiling point, they escape and take energy with them. This escaping energy prevents what you are describing, where the water would continue to increase in temperature as it boils.\n\nOnce boiling point is reached, the liquid water is no longer thermodynamically stable. Any additional heat added to the system supplies what is called the enthalpy of vaporization. This is the energy that is required for the phase transition to happen from liquid to gas.\n\nUnless you mess with pressure or have very specific circumstances that lead to a phenomenon like superheating, which we don't have here, the water will remain at its boiling point as it boils off.", "\"fighting with a worker\" why was there some stank on that?", "I’m this many years old and this might be the first time I’ve ever seen the word burp spelled out.", "Moral of the story… shitty people = shit", "Yup, here ya go! Here's piping hot cup of liquid hot magma. Enjoy!", "Always has been [insert lazy meme]", "So many people are sooooo quick to get physical, and zero of them know how to fight? How the fuck do you assholes get this arrogance about your abilities to defend yourselves, let alone fight when you don't train at all and clearly don't even know how to throw a simple punch... I don't fucking get it.", "You're right. Some fast food/fast casual shitty restaurants have no right to be as expensive as they are. Case in point: OLIVE GARDEN. Your pasta is garbage and you underpay the people working for you. I can get amazing pasta at other establishments for 30% less.", "Because... they are terrible human beings. That is all.", "Wtf is wrong with people. It’s like they are being fed a diet of poison…ohh", "Oh. Not this bay area, that bay area...", "The employee seemed to be under a lot of pressure, though, so the story checks out.", "Water boils at 212° sea level. I’m sure it was hot but not 250° hot. She looks like she belongs in jail anyway. If not this, something else will put her there.", "Which is not to say that water below boiling can't be incredibly dangerous. The heat capacity of water should not be underestimated.\n\nIt takes a frighteningly small volume of hot water to scald a person to death.", "I'd wager that a lot of people who have no real control over their own lives like to go to fast food places because it's the only place where they can presumably demand service like they matter at all.\n\nEdit: I don't mean to disparage those who enjoy going to fast food places - I do as well. I was just talking about the people who go there for that purpose.", "”The worker did not want to appear on camera.”\n\nOf course, because managers/HRs have become assholes in retail/fast-food places, in screwing their workers over since DA KAREN CUSTOMER IS ALWAYZ RIGHT!!! Even more so in this pandemic, as they do this while pushing for more fantasy-like drive-thru, pickup and delivery times with the workers now at the mercy of angry UberEats/Postmates/Grubhub drivers.\n\nPoor worker didn’t want to show her face and get fired in the process.", "[Karen sees middle-aged person working retail because he’s ‘overqualified’ for other jobs]\n\n”Lazy welfare leech!”\n\n[Karen learns middle-aged person quit working retail because there are now job opportunities in his profession]\n\n”Lazy welfare leech!”", "I didn't know that coffee is served in pressurized containers at Burger King.", "LoL!! What kind of communist horseshit is this sub? Fucking jerkoffs.", "Yeah, you add salt to season the pasta, not to raise the temp or prevent it from sticking, thats all bs just like adding oil to prevent the pasta from sticking(it just floats on top)", "It is comedy gold. Folks in there think when they get paid 13$/h their boss earns 100s or 1000s per hour of their labor. Plus they are all so proud when they cheat their employer by slaking a little 😅", "I couldn't believe the tall dude behind her just standing there doing nothing to help her before trying to pull only her while the creep was still grabbing her", "Communist? Wtf are you talking about it's the most extreme capital driven sub on reddit after wallstreetbets. Workers want more capital for less work. That's as capitalist an agenda as there can be. Things aren't just capitalist when a corporation wants more money for less, the workers are partaking in the same market as they are so why should they be treated differently?", "If it wasn't hot enough to cause serious burns it would've been a normal \"oof ouch that stings\" accident. And she would have been fine.\n\nThis was not the case.", "\"...that fused a woman's labia together\" JESUS CHRIST.", "> The BK in question is on the bottom of the ocean\n\nDo they serve Crabby patties?", "fast food is shit and people who often eat there are what they eat", "The coffee was a cloud of brown vapor", "Gotta admit... hers is pretty intense, though.", "Coffee can’t be this hot without being a gas. Good guess officer but it was probably closer to 180-190. Still incredibly dangerous but won’t break the laws of physics", "'FUU-OOO-EYE-TING WOO-ith a worker'", "I used to think it was BS and then I saw the picture. That’s all you need.", "Every time I see that video of the woman defending herself from the man trying to pull her over the counter. It infuriates me how her co-worker responds by trying to stop her and pulling her off, that fucking guy deserved every punch he was getting and if anything her co-worker should have joined in the punching.", "Doesn't a liquids temperature stop rising while it phasechanges into steam before it's temperature can rise again?", "yeah, but when you do, and it spills you are responsible for coffe stains and slight burns\n\nit shouldn't inflict third degree burns", "just kelvin\n\nthere are no degrees on the kelvin scale", "There is water at the bottom of the ocean", "noone here is claiming the coffee wasn't hot\n\n&#x200B;\n\nEveryone is just making fun of the \"news\" spouting such bullshit without even realising it would be impossible to be that hot", "but this never happened in my country in mcd or other fast foods... americans are fucking crazy", "i have a feeling that there just is a shitton of fast food workers, and each one of them deals with a shitton of people every day, and a small splatter of people who have shitty frustrating lives are probably getting their food cheap", "I read the title to the tune of Nobody Left To Run With Anymore by the Allman Brothers and now it's in my head and I'm in a great mood", "\"people\" in general, don't\n\n&#x200B;\n\nThere are a shitton of fast food workers, dealing with a shitton of people every day. It's almost guranteed that they will meat at least one really shitty person per shift. One per hour is likely too", "you get angry at people for ordering too much in a fast food restaurant?\n\nwhat the fuck?\n\n&#x200B;\n\nSorry dude, but i don't think that is justifyable", "“I gotta send you home, because we have no customers right now”\n\n“Can you come in? It’s getting really busy”\n\n“Can you tell that homeless guy he has to leave”\n\n“Tell him that coupon is expired”\n\n“I’ll override the expired coupon”\n\n“You can’t clock out yet”\n\n“You can take that shift off if you find someone to cover your 4 hours from 2am to 6am”\n\n“Take some cough medicine and come into work”\n\n“I’m gonna start you out at $7.15”\n\n“I’m gonna bump you up to $7.35 for all your hard work this year”\n\n“Go clean that poop off the toilets”\n\n“We’re out of gloves till truck comes in”", "i was wondering the same, and i agree his reaction isn't good\n\ninfuriating, yes that too...but not really against the dude in particular\n\n&#x200B;\n\nHe clearly doesn't know what to do, and is probably overwhelmed by the whole situation (understandably). When the fight started his first thought might even have been we are both getting fired for this. He might be a dude that doesn't throw fists and wouldn't have if it was HIM getting grabbed neither. \n\nGrabbing and pulling her isn't the best way to make the assaulter let go, but i don't think he was doing it to protect the customer, but more to just get her out of reach and end the situation", "> no one has ever WANTED to work \n \nThis isn't normal human behaviour, but the effect of (capitalist in this case) worker exploitation. And we shouldn't normalise this. People do want to work. Even with no material needs, people find something productive to do. Doing nothing at all is contrary to human nature. \n \nObviously, that's not to say there aren't universally unlikeable jobs that people would only do for money, but the bigger reason why people \"don't want to work\" is that, when all labour is controlled by organisations whose sole interest is increasing profit, the incentive is to take as much as you can from the worker and give as little as you can back. In other words, exploit people and pay as little as you can, while still keeping it just barely worthwhile for most people. \n \nAnd that \"for most people\" is important. They don't need to pay enough to attract everyone, they just need to pay enough to attract the most economically vulnerable people, paying them just slightly more than they would get in unemployment benefits - which in some countries is close to nothing.", "Obviously it flashed directly to steam upon being thrown. /s", "Angry is too strong a word. I’m justified in being peeved. When I go to a drive through, I’m considerate of the people behind me. It’s not my place to waste their time. Anger isn’t justified, but neither is ordering in excess when other people have to prepare it, and when other people are waiting on you.", "It can be as hot as you want it to be... more heat = faster evaporation speed. But as long as you have enough water you can never evaporate all of it at a single point in time.\n\nIt starts to evaporate yes, but that process still takes quite a lot of time. By which point it likely has completely cooled down.\n\nI dare you to take a kettle full of water heat it up to 100°C and then measure how long it takes for it all to evaporate away.", "How is Burger King getting their coffee up beyond the boiling point to 250 F?? And then maintaining that temp while in the cup??? Is Burger King using technology from advanced alien societies in order to scald human tongues?? To what end??", "You're really going to denigrate people for having a guilty pleasure?\n\nYou don't have to respond, I probably wouldn't take any comments about healthy living seriously from another person spending so much time on Reddit.", "For those who don't use freedom unites - 250 f = 121 c (water boils at 100 c, a hot bath runs at 30-40c)", "But how do you know for how many people they are ordering? Especially in a take away drive-through?\n\nAnd when an order takes long, where i am from they tell you to park and bring you your stuff when it is ready. Happened to me even on a single burger they didn't have ready...Doesn't that happen where you are?\n\n&#x200B;\n\nI understand getting annoyed when you just want to grab lunch fast, and go to a fastfood chain so it is fast and then are trapped in the drivethrough for 30minutes. At that point you could have went to a proper restaurant and sat down there. But i would get annoyed at the fastfood joint (management, their system, etc...not the individual workers, they are rarely the reason when its slow) for not being properly prepared, not at the people in front of me.", "Even if it doesn't make sense, this is my theory about Jimmy John's vs Subway. Jimmy John's you get what's already made for you but Type A control freaks will only go to Subway because they can boss around what they want on their sandwich. I swear if you have a boss who's a micromanager they'll prefer Subway.", "Unless it's under pressure, water will not be more than 100 degrees. Boiling is the liquid in the body of water turning to gas (steam) which then floats to the top as a bubble. That happens at 100 degrees. Probably a few degrees higher for coffee.\n\n\\> I dare you to take a kettle full of water heat it up to 100°C and then measure how long it takes for it all to evaporate away.\n\nI dare you to eat a tide pod, that's just as relevant.", "100°C is equivalent to 212°F, which is 373K.\n---\n^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)", "Real coffee drinkers know that anything above 203f will over extract the coffee grounds.", "They recently interviewed \"Tampa Bay Bucs Defender Victor Hedman\" [Plays hockey for the Lightning, not football]", "Actually not true\n\nWater CAN get hotter than the boiling point. It’s called superheating and happens often with microwaves. It will then once disturbed flash and actually explode on people as the water quickly turns to vapor again. \n\nLook up superheating. It’s scary as shit.", "Watched the video and all I can think is \"psssh, there aint no WAY that coffee was 250f\"", "Good theory actually", "250 degree cup of coffee. Fuck physics.", "Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down\n\nLetting the days go by, water flowing underground\n\nInto the blue again, into the silent water\n\nUnder the rocks and stones, there is water underground", "Also people who eat a lot of fast food don't feel good anyways, easier to trigger them.", "Ok, this woman is a POS but 250F. That has to be an exaggeration. I’ll buy hot as F but 250F is too much.", "Nobody wants you to be a burden on them anymore!", "Gotta give people someone to look down on. Keeps them from banding together and punching up (at the rich).\n\nUsed to be about race. Convince poor whites to shit on poor blacks, keeps them from going after the rich whites screwing both.\n\nNaturally racism isn't dead, but it is going \"out of style\" (thank fuck).\n\nSo, the next iteration of the divide-and-conquer is to create petty imaginary \"class\" distinctions between crabs sharing the bottom of that bucket, based on vanishingly insignificant differences in income between the separate crabs.\n\nSo someone making $50K/yr shits on someone making $20K/yr, and that feels \"normal\". Meanwhile dickhead over there making tens of millions (or more) in passive income laughs all the way to the bank he owns.", "\"I'm white trash and I'm in trouble...\"", ">This isn't normal human behaviour, but the effect of (capitalist in this case) worker exploitation. And we shouldn't normalise this. People do want to work. Even with no material needs, people find something productive to do. Doing nothing at all is contrary to human nature.\n\nI don't disagree with this at all. You only need to look as far as your nearest retiree to see this is true. But then, is it work if you enjoy doing it voluntarily?\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>Obviously, that's not to say there aren't universally unlikeable jobs that people would only do for money, but the bigger reason why people \"don't want to work\" is that, when all labour is controlled by organisations whose sole interest is increasing profit, the incentive is to take as much as you can from the worker and give as little as you can back. In other words, exploit people and pay as little as you can, while still keeping it just barely worthwhile for most people.\n\nAnd it is also human nature to want to get as much as possible for as little as possible in return. To prove my point, all other things being equal (same shopping environment, same helpful employees, same product availability, etc.), would you not shop at the grocery store where the prices were lower? If you don't believe this to be true, go find me the person whom when asked if they would like a 10% raise in pay would say \"No thanks, I make enough money.\"\n\nBusinesses and corporations are nothing more than organizations of people. They follow human nature in all their decisions. It is only natural for them to want to get as much as they can for as little as possible. Landlords too. It is only natural for them to want to get as much as possible for the space they are renting you. The struggle for workers has always been between their natural desire to make as much money as possible and the employers desire to get as much labor done for as little as possible. In the past workers believed that taking low wages was better than having nothing. Coronavirus lockdowns proved to us that having nothing is survivable, so now they are willing to say no until they get what they want.\n\nEdit for clarity: For my purposes, I am defining \"work\" as an activity you do which you would not do if you could be financially stable otherwise. If you lift a glass to take a drink, you have technically done work. My father works 12-16 hours in his garage every single day, not one minute is required for his financial stability, therefore I do not consider it to be \"work\" for this discussion.", "Yeah the whole suing over hot coffee thing was legit and McDonalds was negligent as fuck.\n\nThe media campaign they waged was incredibly effective at getting people to believe it was frivolous, but the coffee literally fused a women's labia and cause 3rd degree burns.", "Seriously. Unless your job is your passion (and nobody's passionate about working fast food) why would anyone want to work? Sure it keeps me busy but if I'm financially secure I'm sure I can find other ways of entertainment.", "Word! I couldn't even imagine ME going through that at a younger age -- let alone if I was nearly twice as old? Oh man!! The burns were so bad", "> I suspect the temp is inaccurate in this case.\n\nYou would be correct and this leaves a giant hole for the defense to use. This is what happens when you do not do a through and accurate investigation with a report based on fact.", "That’s an intense rolling boil. 250 is insanely hot for a Burger King cup o Joe", "shrugs \n\nNever heard that", "Does this shit also happen in India and China (e.g. lots of people in US, so that just happens) or is the US just a fucked country?", "Ah yes, I like my coffee actively boiling", "It's physically impossible for water to be hotter than 212 degrees fahrenheit. Applying more energy simply makes it boil (convert to gas) more rapidly.\n\n(this is aside from things like changing atmospheric pressure or adding a metric fuckload of substances like salt)", "Bruh glad I’m not the only one haha", "buzzer sound WRONG! Try again", "Guilty pleasure? Fast food gives a fast high followed by disappointment.\n\nIt’s like post nut clarity after wanking to filthy porn.\n\n> What’s wrong with? That was disgusting!", "I hope fast food chains start going out of business. I would love for this working-class revolt that's happening right now to be a course-correction of the capitalist system.", "I became a better person when I stopped supporting fast food restaurants since they destroy society. Definitely, insufferable people eat their feelings away at these places. It is egregious to support these companies, so not sure why that other guy got downvoted for saying the truth.", "Same as it ever was....", "How is coffee 250° ?", "We also make generalizations about entire countries with a diverse population.", "Well, that and its cheap. You know who eat cheap food? Poor people. You know who are most likely to be stressed out or dealing with undiagnosed mental health issues? Poor people. Plus a lot of people who work at fast food places, no offense, are not necessarily wealthy or unstressed either. It just makes for the perfect place for overworked, stressed out, impoverished people to take out their anger on each other.", "My friend managed to superheat water in her microwave and then spilled it on herself. The injuries were quite bad and took a long time to heal.", "Even if I won the lottery, I would continue to work in my current job.\n\nI am a Finance Business Partner, the work is fun also it gives me a routine.\n\nI would still expected to be paid though even if I don’t need it, getting paid and asking for rise is part of the fun.", ">no one has ever WANTED to work.\n\nI think people want to have tasks and goals that bring fulfillment. That is what \"work\" is supposed to be. Like, some languages have different works between a job you do for money, and a career that brings you fulfillment. \n\nThe problem is that most jobs these days are just soul-sucking endeavors. Businesses are all run by sociopaths who cater to sociopaths which leads to employees getting abused by management and abused by the customers management caters too. Its just fucked up. \n\nBut plenty of people find jobs they like and are fulfilling. The problem is that there doesn't seem to be enough of those jobs, and the jobs that are left just don't offer the kind of benefits and wages that make people feel good about themselves.", "Just said it to the other guy as well, I would still work even if I win the lottery and money is no longer an issue.", "Is coffee still liquid at 250F ??? I thought after 212 it would be all steam ….", "And now I'm listening to Once in a Lifetime. \n\n\nI always forgot how eclectic the song structure in it is. Lots going on.", "It does as long as pressure is constant.", "The only time I've ever been upset at a restaurant is when I ordered zaxbys (chicken place in the south US) at a drive through. They asked me to pull ahead to a waiting area, waited 10 minutes, saw people ordering after me getting their order just fine. Waited some more, still nothing. \n\nWent inside to ask, showed the receipt, they had no idea i was still out there. They'd lost the order, but wouldn't admit it. The manager came out and said they were short staffed, there was a window into the kitchen and it was packed. Like it was full. \n\nMistakes happen, but don't lie to me when the evidence is right in front of my eyes. \n\nI still didn't yell, fight, scream or demean anyone. Just asked for my order to be completed because It'd now been 30 minutes and they were pumping out everyone else's orders in minutes. I think the manager knew I knew I'd been lied to because after that comment she went out of my view and I think she was hiding in a corner.", "The guy who grabbed the cashier bit off more than he could chew, lady was vicious.", "The New York Times did [a great video on the subject.](https://youtu.be/pCkL9UlmCOE)", ">And it is also human nature to want to get as much as possible for as little as possible in return. \n\nFor most humans, this is not the case.", "This is the result of a society with too lenient of a punishment. People should be more afraid of the consequences than this which means the consequences are not penal enough to discourage unwanted behavior.", "typical, fox news, no fact checking, clickbait........lol", "I think the point this poster is making is that it's impossible for it to be 250f.\n\nIt can be 211f, if it goes one degree more it's boiling and it can't get hotter than boiling.", "What hole does this leave for the defense?", "Yes, but there aren’t that many sources of heat at the bottom of the ocean.\n\nWater near thermal vents does get hot and the temperature can be over 700 degrees Fahrenheit thanks to the pressure preventing it from becoming a gas. At that pressure and temperature, it often exists as a supercritical fluid.", "I will still be doing my current work :)", "I used to work at a gas station in high school and a Mother literally told her daughter right in front of me that if she didn't work hard in school she would end up like me.\n\nWell guess what, I saved enough money from working to put myself through college and now make nearly 100k working from home at a tech startup.\n\nI pray nightly that this lady continues to live in the self-created ignorant hell they have made for themselves.", "> But then, is it work if you enjoy doing it voluntarily? \n \nThat's like asking \"is a child really learning if they are enjoying it and are not forced to?\". Yes. Yes. A thousand times yes. This is exactly the point - work is effort made for a productive outcome. If we accept \"you enjoy it\" as a deal-breaker for something being \"work\", then we automatically define work as something that only exists as exploitation. And \"all work is exploitation - that's just normal\" is exactly what we shouldn't normalise. \n \nAs for the rest of the argument, well you hit the nail on the head. You might not think about it that way and you might not have done it intentionally, but what what you said is the essence of Marxist observation of capitalism: as you said, workers and employers are locked in a continuous negotiation where each side has opposing needs and wants to gain as much as they can from the other. I'm just pointing this out because your inadvertent rephrasing of Marx is going to make me sound more Socialist than I am by giving you the classical response to it: \n \nThe workers and their owners may be irreconcilable - but if the workers and the owners were, say, the same people, then naturally the conflict would disappear. \n \nOr, alternatively (and this is my actual solution), we can accept the conflict between the two as not inherently destructive - if we accept that, in the end, it's the ordinary people who must benefit. As I alluded to in the last comment, employers only need to pay more than unemployment benefits gets you and can ask of you as much as the most desperate person is willing to give. If unemployment benefits were to rise, so would the price of labour. When people have their needs assured, nobody is going to be made to work long hours just so they can eat - because they can already eat. Giving workers rights, protection and the power to assemble also help improve their condition. \n \nIn short, it's true that employers will always give the minimum necessary - but as a society, we are the ones who get to decide what the \"minimum necessary\" is, so that's not a problem if we actually do something about it.", "Not just fast food but services workers in general. Certain people will always feel superior when it's your job to treat them like so.", "Andrew Yang pointed out something important: If you give people money only if they don't work, then you are incentivising people not to work. With universal basic income, you supplement what they earn, and the idea is that (most) people will choose to work .", "There is nothing wrong with the way she is talking. Not sure why you are complaining.", "Ye, I get what you mean, you're referring to the current situation of employees not wanting to go back to shitty jobs right?", "It was more to the “why would anyone want to work” than specific industries", "This is a long-term result of the toxic ideology of \"the customer is always right\". No, typically the customer is a fucking idiot.", "As she said, she didn't know whether that guy had a knife or a gun. The co-worker should've thought that too, not \"Hey stop that, we're not here to hit customers\". He could've died too!", "People are shitty", "Second degree burns are no joke though.", "It was actually around 180-190", "I like working. I deserve better pay but I like to work.", "Mc Donald's kept it at 180-190 according to the manual. So JUST under the ~~flash~~ boiling point, at which temperature it would not instantly vaporize at any rate.\n\nEdit: Chances are you probably regularly raise water above 212, the boiling point is just the point at which water starts to boil, it doesn't vaporize all at once, which you've probably observed any time you've made pasta.", "But it can. Water can be superheated.\n\nLol, water can be superheated. People saying water has to boil at 212F don't know what they're talking about. In fact, most of the power all of you are using to power your devices was created with water that was superheated well above 500F.", "I was more about the original quote.\n\nWhen you said you would be selective, I said I am more than happy to do my current work.\n\nWas just thinking you mean no one would do their current job even if they do work.", "I had a woman look at me/comment like I was a loser for being 25ish working at a convenience store. Before I could even process it, she saw my calculus text book and said something that might as well\nbeen “Oh nevermind you aren’t a loser you are going to school.”\n\nLike she transitioned so seamlessly you knew it had to be genuine.", "I think that would be incorrect. Unless they make it in a pressure cooker, you’re not getting water to 250 F. The cup itself would become too hot to handle shortly after pouring in the coffee. Also, the skin on the employees face would t get just second degree burns, it would probably had fallen off fairly quick. My guess is 150 F is the right answer. Definitely hit enough to burn you but not melt your face off.", "There may be people out there like this but I personally go to subway because I prefer their sandwiches. They are not the same. JJ bread is terrible and they slather a ton of mayo or other sauce on their sandwiches to cover up the fact that they’re totally bland. At least at subway if my sandwich sucks I know it’s mostly my fault.", "Water needs no access to air to boil, I have no idea where do you got it from. Water has no trouble boiling in vacuum, for example.\n\nAnd while you can push the water temperature over the boiling point by a few degrees by providing no starting points for boiling, it is only possible for a few degrees over boiling and requires rather clean water and vessel. It is also an instabil condition so good luck keeping it for a prolonged period.\n\nBasically, you can technically have water some degrees over the boiling point but it is not relevant in praxis and is was surely not the case with the coffee in this story.", "Not in a coffee cup in a burger king it can't", "250 degrees? No. Science says no. Still bad tho.", "Who taught you physics and chemistry??", "It’s actually not cheap anymore. McDonalds is objectively more expensive than several fast-casual and even some sit down places now.", "I know, right? Coffee cups are round, so 360 degrees", "At least he’s not a fucking asshole but go on with your racist bullshit", "Just no excuse for this behavior", "And the the judge reduced the award to practically nothing.", "It's completely your fault; you went to Subway intentionally.", "Not sure about fast food, but this effect is clearly at retail clothing stores. The number of 50 year old women who are just terrible to everyone is astounding. I assume it is because they come from loveless marriages where their spouse has all the control.", "No, it's that poor people go to fast food restaurants, and poor people have a culture that includes being rude to others because they have no class. The problem is the culture of poor and lower middle class people.", "Even if all those things are true, you still don't get to treat people like that. Human beings and animals all deserve to be treated politely, or at least not to to be assaulted.", "Use there coupons get free fries. They have buck coffee", "Literally WTF", "Your Country is small compared to 330 million. Less chance of stuff happening", "The problem is most companies will fire you the second you lay a finger on anyone. Self defense or not. He probably wanted to help, but not get fired. Most states are 'at will' employment. It is incredibly easy to be let go.", "And she wasn't driving, she was sitting in the passenger seat and they had parked in the parking lot after the drive thru to get situated. And when she originally sued it was for $70k just to cover the medical costs. And when they rejected they decided to push for punitive damages (because punitive was created for exactly these kind of situations) \n McDs went on a PR blitz which then corporate media (akak all media) decided to jump in to help. Then politicians started using it as evidence about how we need tort reform so that the little power that consumers did have would be crippled to the point of not being able to accomplish what punitive damages were created to do in the first place.\n\nThe whole story pretty much sums up the 80s and 90s push towards total corporate control of our governement.", "The only time I got pissed at a fast food was a McDonald's. \n\nIt was like 3 am (I'm a truck driver, and this micky ds was in a truck stop) and im standing there waiting to put in my order. Watching this 40+year old manager playing grab ass with a girl who looked 17. Like, tickling her and putting her in a supply closet, closing the door behind them. \n\nPretty sure I got dude fired. \n\nBut yea. McDonald's sent me a $25 gift card for it. So that was nice of em.", "My wife until very recently was a manager at an Apple store and considering the stories about how shitty people were to her and the rest of the employees there, I think it's something deeper than this.\n\nShe also said it got significantly worse since COVID, even when the topic wasn't about COVID-related things (e.g., masks). She said it was like the people who would have been shitty and rude to people instead became shitty, rude, and mean. (paraphrasing, ofc)\n\nIt was a big reason for her quitting. (but not the only one) She has been in a retail managerial role for as long as I've known her, about 20 years.", "That line should not have made it past the edit. School kids know that water boils at 212 degrees. The anchor, cameraman, or station manager should have picked up on the fact that the woman did not pick up a cup of coffee that was actively boiling.", "I remember watching a Netflix doc on this. Her injuries were appalling. I never knew, it was always that apocryphal tale of spilling coffee on your crotch, hardy har har hot coffee and mucous membranes, so funnnnnnnyyyyy", "Sounds like she put emphasis on that phrase for effect. \n\nHonestly, I wish my wife talked like this. I have a hard time understanding her sometimes. I constantly have to ask her to repeat herself.", "And even if it were anywhere close to 212°F, that's still way too hot for coffee to be served. I blame Burger King for the burns more than I blame the idiot woman that threw it. If you serve coffee hot enough to give second degree burns, then you are serving a dangerous product and should be held liable for that.", "> JJ bread is terrible\n\nYou shut your whore mouth. You cant even legally call it bread at subway in ireland.", "That guy just grabbed the cashier over a fucking straw? I'm not one to argue for eugenics but this is really testing my stance on the matter.", "I agree with you on they want to look down on someone, but not because squid game elites are convincing them to do it. It's self inflicted, everyone wants to think they are better than someone else.", "American white ladies have the market cornered on entitlement.", "Superheating is pretty damn fire, but supercooling is chill.", "Jesus Christ wtf is wrong with people.", "When you have a culture based on the notion that \"might is right\" you might just feel entitled to be shitty to anyone you perceive to be a step below yourself on the social ladder.", "People want to work to help improve the lives of their family, friends, and community. People don't want to work to help rich people get richer, especially when they're treated poorly and overworked.", "Its definitely not communist, the opposite of capitalism is not communism", "These are usually not the same person, though. Person B is the usually putting Person A in that position, sadly.", "Meanwhile here we are, working through the pandemic making sure people are being fed having to deal with stupid shit and abuse all day.", "Yeah, that’s 38 degrees past boiling. I’m gonna guess that either the reporter misspoke or the reporting officer/witness made a mistake.", "True... But I think the more important thing to pick out is that 253K would be below freezing, iirc.", "I'm just a fan of toasted sandwiches. If JJ did that they would DOMINATE.", "What is wrong with people in this day and age. No patience at all mindset is going to give you high blood pressure and just reck your health.", "There's also a social hierarchy theory about conservative American women. Their husbands have all the power in their lives and in society, and rather than reform or rebel against this system, they are comfortable with their proximity to power and are forced to find extra-social interactions to exert their power during. \n\nLook at all the videos of mkddle aged white ladies literally crying and throwing a tantrum because someone asked them to wear a mask. They have given up everything to their husbands and families, so they expect the system to protect them regardless of how cruel or childish they behave.", "I avoid JJ's due to their \"free smells\" signs. I don't appreciate that kind of marketing. Plus JJ's sandwiches suck.", "> Along with people being on edge in general the last few years,\n\nAnyone who has ever worked behind a counter in retail or food service will tell you that this is not a new phenomenon or attitude in the slightest. It's a culture of service. \n\nWe have Karens everywhere, but I think America in particular sometimes has this near-psychotic relationship between customers and employees of an establishment who have to genuflect to their every ridiculous tantrum and whim. \n\nPeople make fun of surly/grumpy waiters and staff in European countries, but U.S retail culture could frankly do with having more bite-back from staff towards entitled customers. When I go to a restaurant in the U.S I am almost uncomfortable with how deferential the staff are to me in terms of 'yes sir, no sir' service.", "212 is boiling temp. So ya.. its wasn't 250 degrees according to science.", "Generalizations backed by demographics data. We spend less on education per person than any developed country.", "THEY ARE RIGHT\n\nNOBODY WANTS TO WORK IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE TREATED LIKE ABSOLUTE FUCKING SHIT", ">no one has ever WANTED to work\n\nImagine having so bad of a work ethic that you assume everyone else does too.", "This is exactly the story. Poor folks are getting squeezed harder and harder and have been indoctrinated to take it out on each other, instead of people in charge of the system.", "I've had water explode out of the cup once, when I was putting another container in the heated water. Scared the shit out of me.", "Oh no, you have to do things.", "My lord in heaven, to be this full of yourself must be a full time job. Go outside. Talk to a poor person. Stop listening to what your daddy told you.", "lmfao yeah she said that in a weird way", "Generally speaking, water does not change temperature while it is undergoing a phase change. The extra energy is used for the phase change, instead of changing the kinetic energy of the water.\n\nThere are ways to change the temperature at which the phase change occurs (i.e., increase pressure) and microwaves can do strange stuff to water but I don't really understand the mechanics of that, and disturbing the water causes it to behave again like expected (i.e., flash to steam).\n\nThe coffee coming out of Burger King coffee maker is not going to be too much higher than the boiling point of coffee, at max. (I assume around the boiling point of water?)", "Adding oil definitely prevents it from sticking, but mostly after its out of the pot. You shouldn't oil pasta you are serving with a sauce, for example, because the sauce won't adhere well to the oiled pasta.", "Bro, JJ's is waaaaay better than subway, tf you talking about?", "coffe may have a higher boiling point but probably not by that much. nvm im a dumbass they heat the water before it's coffee", "You do realize that water in a vacuum will literally boil and turn into steam", "Uh, can you provide examples? Like no, McDonald's isn't as cheap as it was in the 90's, but it sure as hell is cheaper than fast-casuals like Panera or Chipotle. Half a sandwich and a cup of soup is like $13 at Panera, and that's not including a drink....", "That's awesome for you, but that's not the point either though. Why do we shit on people who have jobs that are required to make our society function.. If you like burgers, treat burger flippers with respect. If you like not having garbage piled up in our streets, treat sanitation workers with respect. It's literally free to treat strangers with kindness and respect, I don't understand why people make a class issue out of this. \n\nRESPECT SHOULD BE BASED ON THE QUALITY OF A PERSON'S SOUL, NOT THE NUMBER OF ZEROES ON THEIR PAYCHECK", "Boiling requires aditional phase change energy. It not only must be at 100, it also requires an extra push. Same as having water at 0 without it freezing. But it doesn't really get hotter than the boiling temperature.", "(This video is 2 years old)", "I don't think asking for a little less pickles and a little more olives is micromanagement. And that's about all you can do in a Subway.", "Ah a stupid", "Impure water has higher boiling point.", "250 Degrees ??? Lightweights! Obviously people haven't tried a Greggs meat pastie from the oven before...", "This is partially true though. Here in Louisiana they will hire active criminals who are in jail to work day shifts at McDonalds and Taco Bell. The jail drops them off in the morning and then comes and picks them back up after their shift ends. It's an entire racket.", "This is objectively false. We spend more on education per pupil in the US than not only most nations globally, but also significantly more than most developed nations, too. [We spend more than the OECD average](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/07/us-education-spending-finland-south-korea), as well as more than Canada, Germany, Finland, and South Korea. Please don't spread disinformation.", "The over dramatic voice inflections?\n\nI'm pretty sure that has always been the norm.", "Bbc news reporters also developed mannarisms and inflections that were similar through their indistry over the decades", "You can superheat liquids, including coffee. \n\nIt's unlikely what happened in this situation but it's not breaking the laws of physics.", "I don’t eat at Panera for that reason. You can actually buy individual Panera soups at the grocery store and then just make your own sandwich for considerably less.", "I go to Subway because there's no Jimmy Johns, Subway runs the sub game here. You can get subs other places but they're pretty much the only \"sub shop\"", "Name any, because I’m skeptical.", "People do about the USA, it’s not unique to our culture.", "I got two hamburgers and a large fry. It was 7.50. That's less food than a Chipotle bowl, also 7.50.\nFor 7.50 I can get 2 tacos or an arepa. Burger King is worse than mcds. Like, it's cheap but you don't get anything, just paper thin patties and buns.", "Well yeah, and you can make a cheeseburger for less at home than McDonalds... that has nothing to do with the claim of McDonalds being \"objectively more expensive than fast-casuals\". I want to know what fast casuals /u/SafteyReader7337 is eating at that are cheaper than McD's, lol.", "Yes all things are the same. Consistency, respect, and safety don’t matter all. \n\n/s", "Right, there's no way it was that hot. It would be impossible to get it that hot unless it was in a pressure cooker.", "Yeah, but i believe they were joking anyways and not stating their beliefs\n\n&#x200B;\n\nso i only pointed out what is commonly missed, even among people that know what kelvin is", "If the woman who was attacked and her prosecution use that same number, and the defense calls them on it, it calls into question her honesty and the severity of any injuries she attempts to sue for.\n\nThat said I'd suspect the number in the news video more to be the media providing the wrong into either intentionally or through a lack of fact checking.", "Trying to figure out how coffee can be 250 degrees.", "There's always one...", "The American dream dictates that if you just work hard enough you can achieve anything, because of this financial success is treated as a virtue and lack thereof is a moral failing.", "And customers being pissed off over wearing them as well", "Sounds like you're just bad at ordering.", "Dang they are vicious with the downvotes", "Well, you are what you eat", "I find a lot of incompetence in the fast food industry. Very rarely are my simple orders correct. Having to go back in line and request my order be corrected gets really frustrating, Every. Single. Time.", "Half of that is the useless manager getting the minimum wage worker to do the job THE MANAGER is paid for. Scheduling issues are not the workers responsibility to solve as much as store managers might love to ignore that fact.", "Yeah like wtf. I can get two McChickens, large fries, and a large drink for less than $5.", "Those thoughts turn into something far more tangible when humans draw boxes and categories around themselves, like we tend to do.", "Why though? Are you so engrained into your work that you have no hobbies or passions outside of it? I can't fathom for a second why someone that well off would willingly want to work when they could do literally anything else.", "This guy Capitalisms", "Making people cover their own shifts that were already scheduled is the norm. The manager already made the schedule. If you need out of your shift, that's on you.", "Um... the flash point is the point where a liquid will ignite.\n\nIf your coffee will burn, actually on fire, you should probably use a little less whisky.", ">And it is also human nature to want to get as much as possible for as little as possible in return.\n\nIf that was \"human nature\" we would not have survived as a species. Humans are social by nature, and social creatures tend to have physiological responses that promote social responsibility.\n\nYou simply cannot talk about \"human nature\" in todays societies. We are far detached from \"human nature\", and I say that not implying it's nescessarily a bad thing, there are aspects of the \"human nature\" that we should try to curb and work to improve upon. That being said, when you say that something in society is \"human nature\", more likely then not it's actually just the social conditioning and culture that are dominant in society, and those can change...", "I worked fast food as a teen and I was treated poorly but damn, never seen this before. I don't see a way to stop the general public from being assholes but I would advise anyone working in fast food to treat this as motivation to keep up the education and get yourself away from there.", "Fair point that it's a deep \"ape-brain\" human thing, not something cooked up.\n\nThat said, just as with advertising and propaganda, there has been no shortage of effort (and treasure) expended in harnessing that ape-brain bullshit to serve someone's selfish ends.", "I'll put 250 degrees in your ass Kappa", "Chipotle can be cheaper for me in a sense. If you want something off the \"good menu\" on McDonalds then it's more then my $8 bowl at Chipotle. But the $1-2 menu beats that technically calorie for calorie.", "Weird water they used in the coffee that can get over boiling temperature without a pressure system around it.", "anybody above you is a god, below you is a slave", "\"K\", I guess ill be going", "That guy (the worker) probably knows that corporate won't stand up for her or him even if they are acting in self-defense.", "Jimmy John's let's you sub whatever you want lol. What do you even mean?", "Again, none of this validates the comment I replied to. I wanna know what fast-casual and even sit-down places are cheaper than McDonalds, as /u/SafteyReader7337 claims there are many.", "Subway bread is just seasoned puffy sugar", "But my PFAs", "It's the norm only because managers are real good at dumping work on others that is actually theirs. The manager is paid more and is expected to fill any gaps in the schedule either with a worker or by doing it themselves but most I've worked under love to keep that second part quiet. As it is now, the worker can be fired for anything so the managers take advantage of that imbalance and would fire them for pushing back so the status quo continues.", "I could make Gundam models and play games all day at home, but I will get bored of it eventually.\n\nI enjoy my work, it is fun doing analysis and looking at profitabilities.", "Funny how yet poor people can be a major clientele but not the overall problem. You get self entitled types no matter what economic scale or class they derive from. No matter what to those types you are wrong and they are right. Years of \"the customer is always right\" and centuries for finger snapping servitude has made most of this air heads as kids watch their parents/friends/family treat people like this and think \"oh shit thats how you get service?\" and if not straightened out by other family, friends, etc the cycle will just repeat themselves. TLDR we've been treating people like shit based on what they do/wear and we still ask \"whats the big problem?\"", "Very interesting!", "Cause bottling it up inside and taking shit your whole life wont? Lmao", "The medical reports about her injuries will still exist though. I just don't see this as some massive oversight.", ">I have a feeling that people are so shitty to fast food workers because there is a cultural stereotype that \"if you work fast food, you are unskilled, lazy, stupid, or a criminal who couldn't get hired anywhere else\" or in other words \"not deserving of respect\".\n\nThis so much, and it doesn't even just need to be fast food, people are actively looking for people they can look down on and treat bad. Probably because they themselves are also being treated bad.", "Wow, that’s… exactly my stressed-out control freak supervisor. She eats there at least twice a week and complains “they never do it right” every time.", "I agree, the point I was trying to make is that you don't know anyones situation, or who they are based on their current occupation.", "Yeah, but I'm willing to bet you're not working in fastfood, and that perhaps your job is your passion? So you know, exactly what I said?", "I agree, people who eat fast food lack self respect in the first place. One exception is chick fil a, that place is elite", "OP, I liked the way you capitalized some letters in the title! Great meme!", "I don’t understand what the title of the article has to do with the video.", "There are thousands of jobs outside of fast food chains looking for employees. Also, this one cherry picked anomaly doesn't mean you should stay home you lazy sack of shit (@ OP)", "Eating fast food is cringe anyway", "Freezing Point Depression and Boiling Point Elevation. Yay HS/College Entry Chemistry.", "The cheapest Chipotle bowl where I live is $9. The most expensive thing on the McDonalds menu is like 8.20", "Ah yes, the “poor white bachelor in the Antebellum South” effect.", "came here to say this", "BK Coffee in the container is in a gas state. Once you open the container it cools enough to condense into it's liquid form instantly. So the 250F comment is valid.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n/s", "Can’t understand why would anyone physically attack someone else for not having enough ketchup in the takeaway bag.", "Sure, but if I didn't NEED the money, I sure as fuck wouldn't be doing my current job.", "Look, i know the mind of the average redditor whenever they see a Fox news bit automatically goes \"FOX BAD !!!\" but come on, the police report is in the [video](https://i.imgur.com/FQbQTGE.jpg)", "Yes, I would continue with my current job.\n\nAlthough I am not in fast food lol.", "You're lucky then.", "The amount of entitled assholes in “the world’s greatest country” is appalling!", "That’s why there coffee tastes like shit. It’s fucking burned to hell and back….", "Everyone has to fight for the American dream. It’s like Squid Game except there’s no prize at the end. My favourite game to watch is White people assaulting workers making minimum wage. Stay classy.", "I dunno, I see the reasoning but in my world, the intolerable bitches I went to high school with grew up to be intolerable bitches. Their husbands didn’t make them that way. Same as the dickhead guys in high school grew up to be dickhead guys.", "The coworker just watching the girl get snatched in the back.", "Buddy, literally no one gives a shit what city you live in.\n\nJust admit you're lying and be done with it.", "Old people sitting at fast food joints sitting around, drinking coffee, and bitching about young people not working it's a staple around my parts. \nWell, get behind the counters you saggy nutsacks!", "Can we please stop the rhetoric \"the customer is always right\" and that customers can no longer speak to the manager.\n\nI've been on both sides of the counter. And from what I see, it's just a bunch of disgruntled people who feel the need to get their aggression out to someone.", "I mean, yeah they won't turn you down but the idea of the place is no subs so they can get everything as systematic as possible. That's what they're known for.", "So literally the definition of guilty pleasure then", "I actually get physically I'll after eating at Jimmy John's or Jersey Mike's, something about their turkey.\n\nAlso JJ removes most of the bread from the sandwich, why bother getting JJ when at least Subway will let me get a half decent sandwich.\n\n\n\nI'd still rather eat at Arby's than any of the above.", "Lmao Chick Fil A is literally the worst with the homophobia, transphobia, and other right wing bullshit", "This reminds me of a phenomenon in the military where some wives of servicemen expect others to consider them the same rank as their husbands.", "You get what you pay for", "“I’m a sciencetist.”", "\"Poor people are rude to others because they have no class\" says the person insulting an entire group of people based on their income\n\nSo you're saying you're poor then?", "if salt is added to the water it raises the boiling point by a couple degrees, it makes it harder for the water molecules to escape from the pot and enter the gas phase, so no way that anything comprised of water was reaching 250 that's not just straight up steam at that point.", "Yea, a lot of fast food workers in my area are college kids trying to make beer money. However, fast food work is clearly low skill work, and it naturally attracts people who can't perform more complex work for whatever reason. Either way, there's no reason to be a piece of shit to someone when you don't get your ketchup...", "I can't get the pressurized canister to fit in my cup holder. Fucking Japanese car design!", "Well it is a shocking situation to say out loud. She's not saying it in a childish way like how that usually conveys.", "This stuff happens a lot...you just don't usually hear about it.", "I was thinking the same thing. This should have been called “Florida Burger King breaks laws of physics”.", ">I have no incentive to lie\n\nThe incentive is to win an internet argument, because salty people like you who start cursing someone out over a post online are the same kind of people who are so insecure that this is the only way they can self validate. \n\nYou clearly have some deep insecurities that you feel the need to project onto me. I'm sorry about that, but that isn't a reason to flip your shit.", "Pure destruction rained down on that hoo-hah.", "Based on the report of 250F the 2nd degree burns might or might be an exaggeration too. The only thing we really appear to know for sure at the moment is this woman appears to be a POS.", "I avoid JJ’s because they don’t have black olives. I fucking love black olives on my subs. I’ll take firehouse over anything but I’ll eat at subway before I eat at JJ’s.", "Bro, I don't even eat at McDonalds, just asking for validation of the claim that \"many fast-casual and sit-down places are cheaper\".", "Drinks don't count, it's just sugar water. Fries are $4 so you're a lying sack of shit", "Can coffee even get to 122C?\n\nDoesn't water boil away at 100C? How hot can coffee get?", "You ever been to the bottom of the ocean?! NO!! \n\nSo HoW thE FUcK do YOu Knoe?! LibTArD!!!!!!", ">the norm\n\nI work a non entry level job and I'm never expected to do the manager's work and cover my shift. Clearly you've never worked any job other than wage slave.", "I don't always root for mob violence but on rare occasions maybe mob violence...as a treat.", "These situations are not unique to fast food places. I saw a fistfight break out in a boardroom meeting amongst people who couldn't disagree on a very, very stupid point.\n\nIdiots are everywhere. :(", "No she was doing it to pay her medical bills.", "BK coffee is actually 100% pure water devoid of bubbles and other impurities and served in lab grade smooth containers, which allows BK to superheat their \"coffee\" above 212F. Its why BK's coffee is so explosively good.", "Try telling that to people who's only option is to eat fast food most of the time", "Okay, so if one store sold, say, a shirt that you wanted for $10, and a second store sold two shirts you wanted for $9, you would choose the first store?", "> 250 F\n\nRight? How?!?!", "We're not talking about shopping, we're talking about exploitation.", "What are you talking about? You don't just get to tell the manager when you'll be working, you get shifts that are your responsibility.", "\"The officer noted the cup of coffee was 250 degrees\"\n\"The cup of coffee was thrown into the customers face\"\n\nFuck, now we're employing TIMECOPS to go back and test the temperature of the coffee before it was thrown?", "That's why my mom taught me to be careful if I ever microwave a liquid. She said to carefully poke the container with a spoon or something so it jostles it.\n\nShe had an experience once where as soon as she moved a cup out of the microwave it suddenly boiled, and she didn't want me to get burned that way.", "I try to always be super nice to people working service jobs, even if they are being a little short. Their job is tedious and downright awful. They can have a bad day, I don’t care. If my food is messed up, I usually let it go. Unless it’s something egregious, it’s not worth your time or theirs. Bottom line, I wouldn’t want to do their job and they are providing me with a service I don’t want to do myself. Show them respect and tell them you appreciate them once in a while.", "I went to McD’s and the girl brought out just a bag of large fries I ordered at a drive through. Tipped her a dollar. I knew it wasn’t much but the way she lit up.... my only regret is not being able to give the other drive thru attendees a dollar too.", "Please, their are plenty of self absorbed asshole liberals out there too.", "And it's also incredibly easy to sue your employer for wrongful termination, even at will states don't allow your employer to fire you for exercising your right to protect yourself", "Because fast food is a so much more affordable than rice and canned vegetables and chicken/tuna 🙄", "\"defending herself\" laying some serious right hooks to the dudes head. What a woman.", "Okay, if you want to be pedantic, change it to say if one job paid you $8.50/hr to work fast food, or one paid you $16/hr and you got to sit at a desk, do 4 hours of work a day, and play video games the rest, which would you pick?", "Ooooh someone got real mad. Guess I hit a nerve ;)", "ROFL, 250F. Riiiight. Can some one explain how that works?", "Yep, I skipped into the middle and was like damn she's just wailing on him but then I jumped to the beginning and saw what that piece of garbage did to deserve it.", "How'd a 6 year old get in here?!??", "> you get shifts that are your responsibility.\n\nNope, the shifts are the managers responsibility and they are offering to pay you for the hours on the schedule. The worker has no obligation to fulfill the needs of the business when the business can fire them at a moments notice for literally nothing. Union member protected from being fired and paid well? I could start to see \"responsibility\" coming into play or where the replacement requires special skills but nothing short of that.", "The reporter actually said that it was listed that in the ARREST RECORDS that it was 250 degrees. That definitely doesn't mean it's anyway remotely true (which it obviously isn't because it would not have been liquid at that temperature). Police can put whatever they want in there and it doesn't need to be correct. You can fight them with a lawyer, but most judges and lawyers don't really care about incorrect statements in a police report and will give a ton of leeway to the officers.", "Stating facts is being rude? Okay. Then sure, I'm super poor, must be, because I just can't help but post facts, and since facts are rude, now, I'm the rudest person to ever live, must be.", "It's incredibly easy to sue anyone, except when you are making minimum wages.", "Shift work is much different for scheduling than full time salaried employees with a set schedule. You also presumably get paid time off, shift workers typically don't. If they don't want to work their shift, they need to cover it. Or I mean, they can get fired for not showing up to their shift. Easy peasy.", "It's not a toxic ideology it's a misunderstood ideology.", "She didn't even ask for millions, she wanted McDonald's to pay for her medical bills. That's it. But they refused so she had to sue.", "> The worker has no obligation to fulfill the needs of the business when the business can fire them at a moments notice for literally nothing.\n\nOr you know, for not showing up to their shift. That's a good reason to fire. Cover your shifts or get fired. I personally don't care.", "The problem with this argument is that unless you’re LITERALLY HOMELESS, fast food is not your only option. In fact, it’s your worst option.", "I disagree, I think its the opposite. They are used to their families cowing to them, because they don't want to hear her mouth. They start believing this is because they are important and deserve to be treated as royalty.", "Lots of “sane” folks are also flocking to the self sufficiency lifestyle, or at least ordering delivery, that leaves even less of a mix in these places.", "Whoa now, you're lashing out like the customers in the video, calm down. If you order using apps you can easily get fries for less than $4.", "So you make an assumption while claiming I'm making assumptions? You claim I'm full of myself, but you're not even aware of your own hypocrisy, so how can I expect you to be aware of anybody else around you?", "People are crazy.", "I have a longish anecdote that applies here.\n\nSet up:\nI’m 22, recently graduated from college and while on my job hunt I’m working part time as a ranch hand and helping a general contractor. General contractor is currently working a job that requires driving through burn scars from California wild fires and for about a month and a half we had to wait for pilot cars for quite awhile while dead trees are removed from a canyon.\n\nAction: \nWe wait a long time and one day I decide to hop out the car and ask the person operating the stop light if he knows how long he’ll be assigned to this role, a.k.a when will the pilot car situation be done. He’s not sure but the General Contractor and him drum up conversation, fine by me I’m not much for talking anyway. Now they’re discussing pilot car drivers job, seems kinda draining driving back and forth 8 hours a day for a month. This is generally how the conversation goes. (PD = Pilot car driver, GC = guy I’m working with, Me = my thoughts during conversation )\n\nPD: yeah you know I make more money in 8 months than most people make in a year!\n\nGC: Oh yeah?\n\nPD: yeah I’m in a union, we get paid!\n\nME: I don’t think you get paid nothing, but I’m not sure your idea of getting paid a lot is the same as most people\n\nPD: yeah, i it’s really nice to get paid so well for hard work, these fucking millennials don’t know how to work anymore so someone has to do it.\n\nGC: you got that right, these kids are lazy and all they want is to get paid for something they haven’t earned.\n\nME: yeah um, I’m right here guys, I’m literally the people you’re accusing of “not working”\n\nPD: and now they’re asking to get paid more to flip fucking burgers, can you believe that. That’s a highschool job. Why do teenagers need to be paid so much to make a damn burger. It’s fuckin dumb. \n\nGC: general agreement yada yada\n\nMe: holding my tongue, I know butting in about this wins me nothing\n\nConversation continues like this for a bit. Then, the discussion of working during Covid comes up. Their general opinions of covid are what you might expect.\n\nPD: yeah you know I could’ve been working, but I decided to take unemployment and pull from social security! It was great. Getting paid like 3300 dollars a month to sit at home. It was really great! \n\nAfterthoughts :\n\nI’m gonna leave it at that. I was irate, this guy went from accusing young people of being lazy, claiming his UNION PROTECTED* paid him super super well, and then seals the deal with explaining how he took 5 months unemployment . On top of that there was other conversation surrounding how rude people are now a days even as he used much more vulgar words than “fuck” and completely disrespected me to my face. And all in all he is 100% the guy that calls a food worker names or yells Bc he didn’t get what he ordered. Thanks for reading if you did, i realize it’s not super coherent (on mobile) but it seemed fitting to tell here.", "I think they’re trying to suggest that “conservative” equals “traditional” and therefore, such women are far more likely to adopt traditional family dynamics wherein the husband is seen as the head of household. But yes, to your point, assholes come in every flavor of demographics.", "I always thought I had a bad work ethic but I guess the reason I've never been fired from a job is that it's only people like you who get fired.", "I did the math and this checks out.", "and people pretend that social darwinism isn't rampant", "And shitty customers making massive fusses over it!", "I think there are a lot of terrible people out there but if it is happening in one area they maybe should check the water for lead or something 😅", "I'm not being pedantic. Let me give you a better example. If I had the choice between buying a five-dollar chocolate block that was made using child slaves and a ten-dollar chocolate block that wasn't, I'd buy the ten-dollar block every time.", "Anyone who does something like this is bottom rung sewer trash", "I’m not going to go do the math for you. In my city, every single combo at McDonald’s is over $8. Can I order cheaper than that? Yes. But I can also order off the “duet” menu at Panera for $6.", "I'm sorry, I'm not sure how you brought race into this but it's unrelated to what I was talking about.", "Even outside of a relationship context, humans of all gender and stripe frequently try to flex power because they have a claim to some kind of proximal relationship to it (“I know XYZ” or “I’m tight with the boss” etc.). This is like… an obvious fact of life lol", "Bingo. Lmao who gets their panties in a bunch over a McDonald's menu.", "It's the most delicious though. I don't care about their beliefs.", "Florida...", "Never been fired and consistently push forward the work ethic of every team I am a part of but nice projection. Sorry you don't grasp the way the real world works...", "I don't remember large fries ever being more than $2 USD. \n\nAlso, the $1 any size drink is a major factor in keeping the overall price down. Go to any other fast food place and pay around double that for a large. \n\nA regular order for me in college was Mcdouble, Mcchicken, Large Ice Tea, and a hot fudge sundae for about $5. Cheap af and you get a dessert lol.", "You're giving them too much credit, they are mindless apes who just eat fight and fuck. Pick 2", "I make maple syrup. 63.7% sugar. It only goes to 219 F at sea level. That report was bogus.", "You can be fired because they don't like your hair color but sure, I was totally saying not showing up is \"nothing\". Don't have shifts to cover these days but that doesn't mean I'm going to accept others being under a fucked up status quo. Sorry to hear you aren't on the same page with that.", "Duet's don't come with a drink, and 1 of the items is a soup (which is basically water). Not an accurate comparison. If you're gonna compare a \"duet\", why not compare two dollar menu items at McD's?", "broadcast voice is meant to be as clear and enunciated with as little accent as possible.", "Yeah, I was like damn! Get those licks in, girl!", "Unfortunately, getting shit thrown at you is nothing new. It only makes the news when it's something damaging, like hot coffee.\n\nI've had drinks, open sandwiches and fries thrown at me because, \"the order was wrong!\", or \"I said NO ICE\", or \"these fries are OLD!\"\n\nFuck customer service.", "I saw this from the father of a college football player. \n\n\nHe was screaming and ranting about \"the lack of respect for player families\". \n\n\nWhy was he so upset? \n\n\nBecause the person at the concession counter made him move to the back of the line when he tried to cut in front, in a line of about 30 people. \n\n\nHe thought \\he\\ deserved reverence and praise, because of his son's achievements. Whats more is that was the default reaction. So not only was he ranting about not being respected as the father of a player. He was expecting everyone to know who he was on sight.", "If that's what society thinks of respect we have a bigger problem. Respect used to be a two way street, you give and you get respect. Now it's about stupid shit like money and popularity apparently.", "250 degreee coffee? Did they learn nothing from mcDonalds law suit?", "misunderstood to the point of toxicity. It's supposed to mean that if customers buy VHS instead of Betamax, then the customer is right and you should stop selling Betamax. The public got a hold of that line and it got interpreted as \"my milkshake is cold, make me a new one\"", "OP's gripe list is cringe. No, I don't care that he has to deal with minor inconveniences and cover his own shifts. Grow up.", "Good old Pinellas County fast food places. The guy attacking the McDonalds worker deserved the retaliation, but not going to lie that location has absolutely terrible customer service.", "I got called in during a literal wind storm that knocked out the power for most of my city for the entire day and did millions in damage to our infrastructure. \"Hey u just lost power. I don't think I can come in. Doesn't seem safe outside.\" Manger says \"Nahhh we still have power. Come in.' So I pay out of pocket for a cab into work because it's not walkable and the busses are taken off the roads due to the downed power lines. The literal minute that the management staff left...power off. But I can't leave....I've got to stay and put all the food away and then wait for 4 hours to see if the power will come back on....finally 4 hours later I'm allowed to leave and then they call me and say \"you should have stuck around longer. The power came back on an hour after you left.\"", "Like I said, I’m not doing the math for you. Is it possible to eat cheaper at McDonald’s? Possibly. Is the average price more than many other places with better quality? Yes.", "Tbh, I've never been fired, nor left a job on bad terms, and still know this basic bit of knowledge. They are even called the \"manager\" lol.", "I worked at a dispensary near the border of Colorado and we had a lot of Texans come to our town during the holidays. The amount of older married couples coming in to ask us dumb questions and look down on us was interesting to say the least. They had a surprised look on their face when we turned out to be normal people with goals and educations unlike their presumed druggies with dreads and half dead brains.", "That's roughly the temperature of a pressure cooker at 15psi, which is the max recommended running pressure for most models (shameless plug for /r/mushroomgrowers, we use a lot of pressure cookers!).", "Fries are NOT $4 at mcdonalds and you're being really damned aggressive in a disagreement over fast food prices. \n\n\nAlso \"Drinks dont count\" on what planet? LMFAO you're being completely ridiculous all around.", "Ill take the first one and the last one please", "So if you found out that, say, the owner of your favorite store was a kiddy didler, you'd keep shopping there?", "Yes, because that $5 block costs you additional in the form of guilt and disgust. Costs don't have to be strictly monetary.", "This is so far off the mark. I worked retail for years in a mostly elderly population. The biggest bitches treated their husband's just as bad as they treated the cashiers. You can see their husband's beat down lifeless zombie stare a mile away.", "Bruh, you can't say that Panera's cheaper by comparing literally their cheapest meal (that doesn't even include a drink) on their menu with more expensive items at McD's. You're not doing any math, you're just unwilling to admit you're wrong, lol.", "My mom thinks this. She argues that fast wood work is for \"Highschool kids\" or a summer job. Therefore they dont need a pay increase and those types of jobs should never be a higher income.\n\nYa, I cant stand this world", "Some people are shitty. Imagine how bad it will get when some real shit goes down. Look how people behave with black friday or toilet paper. People can be and will be shitty at times. Self Justified convenient to them times.", "Yeah man. The hypocrisy drives me crazy. Some people are hard wired to have boogey men in their life. No wonder racism, sexism, and bigotry fit so well in the human psyche. As long as you spend your time in judgment of your neighbors, you can avoid looking inward.", "I laughed.", "Where are you guys? Meals are 8 and above in the dmv", "…", "Raping children is not a belief, it's abuse. I said I don't care about their \"beliefs.\" I know reading is hard.", "Human nature (or any other primal instinct in any other animal) is an ever evolving thing. Societies and other parts othe the environment in which a creature lives will force change on the nature of that being.", "Yeah. Or maybe they don’t want to be in a job that is crazy complicated. Maybe they just want to go to work, clock in, make some money, and clock out. When that work means serving people who need the product that you are serving, why would anyone be a dick to these people?", "I am a shift worker. I'm salaried non exempt, which means I still get paid overtime. My shift is 11-10, mon-thursday, and I work call center style IT. When I call off, my boss finds someone else to cover. \n\nI also cover for others, my boss reaches out and asks \"hey do you want to work a couple of hours overtime today\"", "And all she wanted was for them to cover her medical expenses and they wouldn't do shit.", "Bro you’re a piece of shit lmao, my mom worked at a place for 8 years never missed a day covered every shift one day she couldn’t she was tossed. People like you are the reason the economy is bust you just close your ears and scream whatever nonsense you think of", "And transphobia/homophobia is not a belief, it's abuse.", "it goes something like this.\n\nProsecution: Your honor, my client was attacked for no good reason by the defendant, who threw 200-degree coffee at her, resulting in 2nd degree burns.\n\nVictim: I attest on the witness stand that is what happened.\n\nDefense: Your honor, there is no way the coffee could have been that hot. Here's facts about how hot coffee can get. The so-called \"victim\" is lying. Since we know they'd lie, how can we trust whatever else they said? What happened before the video? My client says the \"victim\" was the one that started the altercation, and that her coffee was nowhere near hot enough to cause burns. And since we know the coffee could not have possibly have been as hot as the prosecution claims, how do we know it was the source of the \"victim\"'s burns? Maybe she got those another way, and she's blaming my client to try and get money!\n\n\nTruth of the matter is if you can destroy the credibility of both evidence and the main witness, you can throw enough reasonable doubt into a case to potentially clear an otherwise obviously guilty person just on technicalities. Happens often enough.\n\nBut again, I'd suspect any prosecution lawyer with a brain would do some fact checking and hopefully not provide a ludicrous claim like 200+ degree coffee for a defense lawyer to tear apart.", "Most lawyers in that type of case handle it for a percentage of what they recover for you", "It's not a fact lmao. It's an opinion.", "I meant flash vaporization but yea my mistake", "All about the mix n match deals!", "You know paying someone in Pennys and working 6 12 hour days a week was the norm not to long ago. The norm is bullshit poor fucking baby manager doesn’t do their job right. My manager is great, she understands call outs and gets someone else to cover or or hear me out? Does the work her fucking self because she’s a adult. Sorry no one is covering but I’m not missing graduation.", "I'm not worried about my guilt and disgust, I'm worried about the suffering of others. But I'm glad you agree that costs don't have to be monetary.", "Yep. Mcdonalds is the local cafe to a lot of small towns", "Go on the app. They'll have a deal for free fries and a drink. Fries won't be large, but meh. That just leaves the sandwiches, which are less than 2.50 a pop.\n\nSeriously you can save quite a bit using the app or coupons for fast food.", "I actually have an excellent work ethic. To the point of getting taken advantage of by nearly every boss I've ever worked for.", "When that bald fuck leaned over the counter and grabbed that woman the proceeded to get some well placed laces to the face from her... \n\nA) that ass hole didn't know what he was getting into.\nB) I think I'm in love", "Response to edit: OK, I grant to you that, if you define work as \"something people only do for money\", then yes, people only do work for money. But you can see how that turns your initial comment into a truism. \n \nThough I don't really understand why people are downvoting you. I agree with most of your points and most of my arguments are built on them, not contradicting them.", "You often see parents using children as a measure of their own success, which I think is closely tied to what you described", "Yeah sometimes I try to have the “they are having a worse day than me” perspective, but their choice to try to hurt someone else is kind of unforgivable.", "They're right I don't want to work any longer.", "It seems there a common denominator in these fast food fights that no one is acknowledging.", "If you were independently wealthy enough to be financially stable without a job for the rest of your life, would you still do the same work, for the same people, for the same number of hours every week...or would you find something different to do with that time?", "\"Only 3 more days till this long weekend is over and I can go back to being slightly less miserable sitting at work\"", "Well, however you want to look at it, the point is that as a human, you are still looking to get the most value for the least cost. If keeping other people from suffering is worth at least two dollars to you? Great! But it's still a cost/benefit analysis at the end of the day. \n\nFor example, I don't eat at Chick Fil A anymore, because I consider the cost to society from supporting them much higher than the enjoyment I get from their food. I would like to say I'm doing it because I try to be a good person, but at the end of the day it's because I would feel bad about taking that action and supporting their discrimination.", "Maybe not the same job but I still like working", "I work in restaurants. I have pretty high standards for service when I go out to eat, but if I’m on a road trip and have to stop at burger king I don’t get upset if my order isn’t perfect. I just paid $10 to get lunch in 3 minutes, There’s not a lot for me to complain about.", "You're describing [boiling-point elevation ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling-point_elevation).\n\nStill, it would take a huge amount of impurities. Studies from Purdue University (Chem department) indicate a 10 M solution of sucrose in water only raises water to around 220F.", "[Boiling-point elevation](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling-point_elevation) \n \n >Boiling-point elevation describes the phenomenon that the boiling point of a liquid (a solvent) will be higher when another compound is added, meaning that a solution has a higher boiling point than a pure solvent. This happens whenever a non-volatile solute, such as a salt, is added to a pure solvent, such as water. The boiling point can be measured accurately using an ebullioscope.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Wow for real? That’s like straight up slavery", "That's caused of lack of nucleation sites on the water container. Meaning the container is too smooth and can't form bubbles.", "A large majority of people behave just fine towards fast food workers. A small minority of people treat them like shit because the managers and employees tolerate it and they see it as a way to get free food. If most fast food places had decent managers that would just throw out the asshole customers, it would mostly stop imo.", "Yep. The older I get the less the world makes sense to me", "The more skilled I've become and the higher wages I've earned, my jobs have become easier and easier. \n\nMost of my recent jobs don't hold a candle to the difficulty of the jobs I held when I was younger.", "It's service industry in general. People go to these places and treat the workers like their own personal employees.\n\nHell, I worked at a bowling alley in a smallish suburbia town that did a lot of birthday parties and there were a number of parents that were shocked and angry that $20/person didn't get them a full on Disney Land experience. More than once the owner ended up in small claims over people who threw hissy fits and refused to pay.", "I remember being a kid and making fun of her, because the adults around me did. It wasn't until years later i learned of the true horrors that woman went though and have felt guilty ever since.", "It's not a cost/benefit analysis because the benefits happen in the lives of other people.", "That store just probably sucks. It's very rare I order anything and it's wrong", "I can't really blame people for treating other people shitty, if they themselves get treated shitty. It feels selfish on my part to expect them to be saints who just absorb societies abuse without any repercussion.", "Pizza restaurant near me is like $8 for burger and fries add on a drink and its still under $10. Far from fancy but I get more full from that burger than a double quarter pounder. I just feel dirty typing that. Double quarter pounder.", "Yes but usually the way you make coffee is add boiling water to coffee to brew it ….. taking into losses to the mass of coffee, the brewer and the cup…. 250 is pretty much impossible", "Your DMV has a McDonald’s? Mine just gives me a number and tells me to fuck myself in the corner for 2 hours", "This was special lawsuit coffee. It gets much hotter than normal coffee.", "And you get to feel good about making that choice and helping others.", "“Bruh” I didn’t. I used one item as an example. The entire point of this thread is that companies are cutting labor and raising prices then blaming “cOvID” for the prices or “LaZy WoRkERs” for the lack of service. \n\nSomeone said fast food was cheap.I used the example that McDonalds is expensive, and on average MORE expensive than many indirect competitors (and in almost ALL cases direct competitors) unless you order off a very specific set items.\n\nBut I forgot the asterisk about the dollar menu so you took offense and decided to be pedantic about it. Enjoy being “right”… bruh.", "It's not more expensive on average, that's my point. Just because one menu item at Panera is cheaper doesn't mean it's cheaper on average.\n\nAnd yeah, I used \"bruh\" because you're making a completely stupid argument that only an idiot would actually fall for.", "Please get some coffee and try yourself.", "I have a full time job in marketing, but apparently I'm a lazy sack of shit?", "Fuck work, I'll just resolder every electrical connection in my car instead. Not because I'm bored, but because it's a 93 BMW and a soldering iron I already own is cheaper than overhauling the cooling system", "Ah yes, the ol dependapotamus, aka, the Tri-Careatops. They act like they are out there deployed, getting shot at, but then they're back home banging the cashier from a local grocery store (also referred to as a Jody). They will ask you to join their pyramid scheme, and shun you when you don't. It's a weird world on base.", "Perhaps I should use the word employment instead of work. Employment is a trade agreement you make with an employer. You trade productivity for the goods and services you need and want. Currency is just a mediator in that trade since you can't walk into Walmart and show then your timecard and get groceries.\n\nWhat Marx missed is human nature. There are some who will always put forth maximum effort for their employer, but the vast majority of people will do just enough work to meet the minimum goal. Ask employees if they would like to work half a day you'll get a mixed response. Aske employees if they want to work half a day for the same pay they normally get for a full day, the place is a ghost town at noon.", "So a cup of coffee was 38 degrees above boiling sitting on a counter 🧐", "> The biggest bitches treated their husband's just as bad as they treated the cashiers.\n\nThis. Wife would be freaking the fuck out and the husband would just be standing there quietly. When I worked retail and was taking the heat for a few minutes I always felt bad for the guy who has been taking it for decades.", "I had some dude throw a fit and demand a refund because I said I would need to charge him extra for more ketchup, on top of the like, 10 packets I had already given him. For his single large fry and sandwich which already comes covered in sauce. He recorded me and bitched about it as I was giving him his money back. I can’t imagine being that much of a belligerent man child. Whatever dude, take your refund. I don’t make commission.", ">misunderstood to the point of toxicity. It's supposed to mean...\n\nSee, this is ironic, because you are parroting what others have said online. [It's not true though.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_customer_is_always_right#:~:text=%22The%20customer%20is%20always%20right,John%20Wanamaker%20and%20Marshall%20Field.) It very much started out as the commonly known definition, and has been criticized as problematic for over a hundred years.", "'People who eat fast food are shit' isn't some objective truth, and he got downvoted for the same reason you did, you're both insufferable (I like how you chose this word in particular, as you are the epitome of insufferable) pricks like you claim the people \"eating their feelings away\" are. Based on your comment history, you are a living, breathing parody of yourself. You are the archetypal seething, unhinged, \"how do you know if somebody is vegan, don't worry they'll tell you\" meme in the form of a man. My only question for you is, if eating fast food makes people shitty, and you don't eat fast food, what made you in to such a terribly shitty excuse for a person?", "I have a few friends that married Karens (against our advice). You can bet they're working long hours these days.", "Desktop version of /u/myersguy's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_customer_is_always_right>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", "What the fuck? Why are people fighting over a free shit? You imagine being the absolute unit of a retard that goes to prison because you didn't get a straw? They literally hand out those for free just ask for one.", "Either you have never had a service job or you have forgotten. Regardless, it's sad you see caring for others and trying to empower them as childish...", "The reason to add oil to pasta water is to prevent foaming during the boil.", "Growing up in a rural area, I pretty much just saw teenagers, and (much) older women working fast food joints. Went to college in a slightly larger town, it's all college kids. Moved to the big city afterwards, and it was all regular, working age people. That threw me for a loop", "If the employees microwaved it to heat it up, it could.", "> “I’m gonna start you out at $7.15”\n> “I’m gonna bump you up to $7.35 for all your hard work this year”\n\nWe now hire at $10.00 but we are going to leave you at $7.35.\n\nCan you train the new guy who makes $2.65 an hour more than you?", "\"Nature\" is not something that evolves over such a short period of time, unless you are calling \"nature\" societal norms, then I guess we just call things diferently, and like you said any perceived obstacle in what you call \"human nature\" can be changed if we work on the system governing our societies today.", "Coffee can’t be hotter than 212F.. it’s a water-based liquid, was the cup a cup of hot gas?? Was it literally boiling? That being said, that coffee was way too hot to serve. It could’ve led to a massive lawsuit if it had injured a customer, as was the case with Liebeck v. McDonalds, where a customer was handed a hot coffee in the drive through and it spilt on her lap, causing 2nd degree burns to her legs and private parts.", "Never argue with a girl named Anastasia.", "If you're 30 years old and working fast food it means you fucked up. Still deserve basic human respect but face it some poor life choices led up that path.", "That's apples and oranges. If you had the chance to buy a $10 chocolate block not made by slave labor OR buy an $8 chocolate block the same size also not made by slaves, both tasting the same, bot equally available, both the same distance from your house, both sold by reputable people...which do you buy?", "Sure. We'll go with that.", "Yeah.. blame capitalism lol, was a clear case of “how do we discourage people from taking rightful action against massive companies if they wrong them? I know, let’s run a massive media campaign to paint this poor soul as being a crazy person.”", "Exactly. It's shitty reporting.", "Ok. Sorry the worker had to go through that. \n\nBut someone is full of shit about the temprature of that coffee. \n\nIf it was REALLY 250F. There wouldn't be any liquid in that cup. Considering water boils at 212F. \n\nAnd don't give me the superheated theory, because it would have exploded during the pour from the decanter to the cup.", "Maybe it's because I live in a more liberal area but the Conservatives around here are the \"Church on Sunday, first to donate the clothes off their back type\" while the ones super shitty about the latte being made wrong are the types with Namaste or Coexist stickers on their vehicles.", "Exactly, they aren't serving instapot coffee.", "250º F 38º more than boiling. I am sceptical about that temperature measurement.", "Oh boy! There's nothing I love more than a meal of piping hot coffee and a small French fry.", "I'm just saying. It is possible to superheat water. We do it all day, every day at my plant. Albeit, under significant pressure. \n\nBut, it's even possible in a Burger King cup, as you said, if an employee was to microwave it. People saying, matter of factly,that water cannot get above 212F in liquid for are matter of fact, wrong. \n\nIs it possible an employee microwaved the coffee? Yes. Is it possible that it could superheat and not be significantly disturbed such to flash before handing it to a customer. I don't know. I'm certainly not about to say it's impossible. As many here are claiming.", "The job itself is viewed as post modern hazing", "The Complaint alleges the coffee was 250 degrees. Can somebody explain to me how the fuck that's possible when 212 is boiling? How can coffee be 38 degrees above boiling temp??", "Is it just me or does it feel like we're seeing a rise in violent mistreatment of \"low level workers\"? I've seen and heard more and more stories over the last year about this exact shit, and I'm wondering if it's just always been this way and it gets more media attention now, or if people really have stopped giving a shit about each other.", "Subway is an abomination to good sandwiches. Everything is engineered to be as bland as possible. The bread is a dry sponge, the meat tastes like it was boiled for hours, and the veggies are picked at the peak of pre-ripeness for maximum absence of flavour and grainy texture (in tomatoes). \n\nThe only thing I get from JJ is the Italian, which you actually have to request mayo for. And it's the perfect fast-food Italian sub: the bread has some nice chew in the crust while being soft inside, the meat has a good cured flavour, and the veggies crisp. It's not gourmet, but it's a great balance of salt, fat, and fresh, and for fast-food it's excellent. \n\nFirehouse makes some really good subs, 1000x better than subway. Big fan of their Jamaican Jerk chicken.\n\nSubway is just the absolute worst sandwich shop around. You can't build flavour by customising garbage ingredients.", "i have the feeling that everyone of these people that attacked the workers are unskilled lazy stupid and a criminal and dont deserve respect.", "But if that information is on the police report as 250 degree coffee then it draws into question the validity of everything else on that report, and that's the official record of what happened. The official record of witness statements, victim statement, and so much else. This is why the police are trained to write accurate and detailed reports.", "Nah, the word bruh just makes you sound like a teenager. I’m assuming you’re not one so you should probably retire that if you want to be taken seriously.\n\nAnyway, have a nice day. Arguing semantics about fast food being expensive has taken up way more of my morning than I wanted.", "Could be 215 ? just a little over with some creamer or something?", "Plus if people do stick around long enough to get it right they are shown the door. Chick Fil A is literally like the only fast food place I know where you have a really good chance of everything going right on the first try.", "The point that you're responding to is that knowing or not knowing the situation doesn't justify being shitty. Them being ignorant about your 'situation' is irrelevant because even if they did actually know the situation, being shitty is still unjustified.\n\nYour focus is on the wrong thing. The takeaway is \"don't be shitty\". Not \"don't risk acting on ignorance.\"", "More expensive on average yet 1 example in this thread involves strategic ordering at Panera compared to the most expensive McD's item while the other example is just flat out more expensive. Really makes you think! Call me when somewhere else can get me 2 shitty burgers and a large drink for under $6", "Never get between a fat American and their chicken nuggets!", "Absolutely. I hope that we change our attitude about the customer is always right", "Seriously, WTF is wrong with people? There's no excuse for acting that way. Have an issue, go inside, ask nicely and chances are they'll rectify whatever the hell you're bent out of shape about.", "What you have in mind is called boiling point or temperature. If you want be fancy, you can call it saturation point or temperature. But really, it is simply temperature when water does boil at the given pressure.\n\nFlash vaporisation aka steam explosion happens when system pressure drops and new boiling temperature is under initial liquid temperature. It can occur in boilers working under pressure, but not in a coffee mug.", "Lmao everyone is so salty about their sandwich choices! That’s an awesome breakdown man. I agree about JJs having a great Italian.\n\n I definitely agree about Firehouse. They’re on a whole different level AND they have coke freestyle machines in my town.", "It's highly unlikely that they microwaved it and then very gingerly carried it over, as not to disturb the liquid and have it flash to steam.\n\nIt's functionally impossible it was 250F. (or whatever was claimed) It is only technically possible.", "Without getting too political I think this mentality works in favor of rich people. Get lower class to hate the poor and they will be too busy looking down to see their pockets getting picked by those above.", "Yup pretty much. I used to know a chick who did 5-6 years for second degree murder and possession of heroin. The last year of her sentence she would be taken to a Burger King in the morning and then picked up after her shift. She was using other workers phones to access the internet and msg me, doing drugs, all kinda sketchy shit lol. They breathalyzed them upon intake back into the prison so only thing she couldn't do was drink.", "Gross", "I’m not pro-violence. But we should permit cops to beat someone who treats our restaurant and service workers like this. There is a social agreement. No courts, no prison time. Cops just show up and beat you so hard that you better remember next time you try to pour hot coffee on an innocent staff member. 🥶🤬", "I never said the cifffee wasn't too hot. I am just saying only an idiot puts a styrofoam cup between their legs.", "And unfortunately they publicly support a bunch of shitty policies so I try not to go there if I can help it", "I don't think it is-- probably a typo somewhere and was more like 205.", "Fast food is some of the hardest work you’ll do. When I did it, it was literally fast work that was constant and the mental and physical breakdown was real. Kudos to anyone who does it and feeds our lazy asses.", "People be crazy. Not an excuse but I can only assume there's so much frustration in the world that even little things end up putting people over the edge.", "Hyjacking top comment to plug my 2 fav subreddits - /r/publicfreakout and /r/actualpublicfreakouts", "You know, I think this is a compelling theory. It feels like a conspiracy theory though. Do you think that individuals conspire to make this a reality or is it just natural forces as a part of capitalism?", "Wouldn't that just be a half pounder?", "People being proud of their laziness is depressing but also pretty funny. \n\nThe world is just going to leave losers with this mentality behind. People have always had to work and almost always much harder than they do today.", "I'm just glad she didn't have marijuana within 1,000 feet of a school or she'd face real prison time", "If fast food places fired everyone who came in on time for their scheduled shifts, but didn't come in when called in outside of their normal schedule, they'd have no employees. They hurt enough as it is just for people to come in when scheduled.\n\nDon't ever let yourself get called in to a fast food place.", "You have crab mentality.", "Yeah this is my only complaint, they'd be so good. I think toasting them would mess with timing though.", "I bartend at a nice Sushi place, at least nice enough that growing up my parents would make a big deal out of going. We'd dress up nicely and stuff. Job's a big deal, I study alcohol, food and the Japanese language in a slight sense, and ffs it makes me happy. Nonetheless, there are still people who either treat you with no respect because they don't feel like what you do is a \"real job,\" or they expect your 100% fealty and want you to bend over backwards for a nicer tip. Either way, it just boggles my mind how atrocious some people can be to the humans who control what goes into their body via food & drink.", "People prefer receiving government assistance as opposed to working for a living because... someone got hot coffee thrown on them at a Burger King two years ago!\n\nIt makes sense if you don't think about it.", "While I appreciate the analysis, class is the conflict we should be having. There are three main economic classes: the dependent class (those who cannot or will not work), the working class (those who must work to maintain their living conditions ranging from essential to comfortable) and then there is the ownership class (people who do not need to work and make their money through ownership of assets like stock, real estate, etc).\n\n\nThe current conflict dividing the lower classes is culture war bullshit, like who kneels for a flag or who gets a vaccine and wears a mask. It's the stupid larping by pussy hats vs red hats, ANTIFA vs Proud Boys, etc, and nowhere in ANY of these dumb conflicts is discussion about jobs, infrastructure or healthcare. Materialism gets a back seat to culture war bullshit every time.\n\nThese restaurant freakouts are just stress boiling over, and the ONE entitlement Americans have had is their ability to be a customer somewhere. Also the ego needed to shore up people against their own insecurities born from something I have yet to pinpoint.\n\nAnyway, that's my take. I don't disagree entirely, but I felt the need to throw my dumb opinion in here", "They compared the most expensive McDonald’s item with the cheapest Panera item to explain their reasoning…\n\nLike, wtf lol", "Saying it's highly unlikely is NOT saying it's impossible. Highly unlikely stuff happens all the time. It's not functionally impossible. It's functionally improbable. Which is something completely different. \n\nBut, none of this has anything to do with my comment you replied to, which is a simple fact that water CAN he super heated. It can. Water is superheated at every fossil plant on Earth.", "Yeah I'm busting your chops, to each their own of course and if you like subway I won't judge you for your olfactory dysfunction. :P\n\nI've definitely enjoyed some subway sandwiches and I appreciate the different bread options. I do feel their quality has declined immensely over the years though. Maybe my expectations are just higher? I can't comment on JJs other sammies, I just like a good Italian sub so when I find one I stick with it. I've had much better ones from a proper Italian deli, but that's a different thing altogether.", "Bro someone just went on a killing spree with a bow & arrow in Norway. Crazy people exist everywhere. \n\nRemember there is 1) freedom of press and 2) a massive, diverse population in the US.", ">> I'm just saying. It is possible to superheat water. We do it all day, every day at my plant. Albeit, under significant pressure.\n\nYou are not superheating water, you are heating it over the boiling temperature at atmospheric pressure by increasing the pressure and, consequently, the boiling temperature. For example, water at 360°C and 200 bar is not overheated or superheated, it is actually subcooled.", "My upstairs neighbors are that kind of couple. Except they're in their 30s. The husband always looks completely defeated every time I see him. She likes to scream at him on their outdoor patio so all us neighbors can hear it.", "360°C is equivalent to 680°F, which is 633K.\n---\n^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)", "Uh....so you have no problem with sick workers being forced to come in and prep meals for customers. Oh, and clean bathrooms without gloves and then go back to making food. \n\nnOb0dY wAnTs To WoRk", "It’s not semantics if you compared the most expensive McDonald’s item with the cheapest Panera item to explain your reasoning…\n\nYou’d probably save time in the future if you realized how that doesn’t make sense and were willing to admit it instead of doubling down or nitpicking slang usage instead of the topic at hand. Would also make people takenyou seriously lol", "Former bus boy, waiter, and bartender.", "You're way overthinking it.\n\nIt's fast and cheap, that's why they're going there.", "Yes, but my point is that we should not judge based on specific things, because if they are a pedophile or rapist, then they should be treated differently.", "I see your point. I was trying to quickly Google what temperature would cause water to instantly vaporize and got the boiling point instead. Either way op was wrong about water instantly turning into steam at the temperature Mc Donald's served it at. At worst it would be boiling and emitting a lot of steam if they had overheated the pot above regulation.", "Water boils at 212°. How was the coffee 250°?", "I hate work not because it's hard or because I'd rather be doing something else it's because of the people I have to deal with.", "Disagree. It's not abuse to disagree with someone's lifestyle.", "Lol yeah, right. If you truly had an \"excellent work ethic\", you'd almost certainly have had a boss that appreciates your value.\n\nThis is your mentality:\n\n>no one has ever WANTED to work\n\nand it's not true. Plenty of people, myself included, want to be productive and look down on those who with no desire to work.", "Im wrong, but I FEEL RIGHT. Keeping customers is the ethos at the core of the statement, but my personal perspective is incorrectly founded. Thanks!", "> Marketing \n\n\n\nYes", "The Norway thing was terrorism, right? Terrorism isn't crazy; it's an extreme form of politics. \n\nIt wouldn't surprise me if the employee pissed off the blonde in some way. Reality is always more complicated than a headline.", "It's abuse to fund groups who publicly campaign to take rights away from, marginalize, and discriminate against people who live that lifestyle.", "I see you have many problems of your own and you should try to fix those problems. People can stay ignorantly bliss, but your actions have consequences and blindly supporting corruption is still a fault of your own.", "Superheated water is defined as water heated between the normal boiling point of 212F (100C) and the critical temperature of 705F (374C). \n\nBut, let's ignore that. You can also superheat water at home in your kitchen. Microwaves can superheat water even at atmosphere. \n\nI really don't feel like getting into a tedious technical conversation about water polarity and vapor behavior. So, I'll pass on that.", "No worries! I only know this because I was also once under the same impression.", "You're still focusing on various things that you judge someone on as a basis for treating them differently. How about don't treat people differently?", "She might have been told 215 and heard 250, still inaccurate but closer to believable.", "I don't care what the business believes. Full stop. Do you research every single company you purchase from to make sure they have the same political views as you?", "I thought older people had more respect and self control, I guess not.", "this was my biggest takeaway as well.... also how did they know the temperature of the coffee after it had been thrown? was there a thermal imaging camera or did they take the time to measure it before allowing it to be thrown?", "Yeah, why?\n\nAnd that's not a political view my guy, it's human rights and decency.", "No fossile plant on Earth does superheat water. Rather, in your typical water-stream cycle, water is preheated in the economiser, heated up to saturation (boiling) and then evaporated in the evaporator and then the produced steam is superheated.", "See \"or you have forgotten\" for my reply. If you somehow got lucky and had amazing managers the entire time, I congratulate you! Sad thing is that would be an outlier so why are you trying to ignore others hardship and dismiss their issues?", "Its literally impossible for liquid (water) coffee to be 250 degrees F without some kind of pressure chamber. At worst, it could have been 212F.", "So you prefer rapists and pedophiles are treated equally to everyone else... Ok.\n\nEdit:\n\nForget it, after reading this guys comment history, it turns out they are a pro-Trump, anti-vaccination kinda person. It's pointless to raise any reasonable point here because of course they will always stamp themselves as correct regardless of any argument or opinion they are met with.", "If throwing hot coffee on someone is crazy, then indiscriminately massacring innocent civilians for religious reasons is absolutely batshit.\n\nCrazy people exist everywhere, I can't believe you need to be told this.\n\nAgain, not every country (i.e. China and India) is always going to air news stories about incidents like this for the world to see. In America, you see stories like this constantly because it's profitable for the media and it has an insanely heterogeneous population.", "Ahhhh a lawyer, no wonder you're a dick then", "Maybe dont serve coffee so hot it causes 2nd degree burns. Should throw it at a ceo next time.", "I would have no problem litigating on either side of a discrimination suit against Chick Fil A. My morals are very flexible.", "No dog the Delaware Virginia and (Maryland) area, the land outside of baltimore near dc", "nonexistent", "> so why are you trying to ignore others hardship and dismiss their issues?\n\nJesus Christ it's not a hardship, it's a job. I know you guys prefer that the government handed you everything for free in your little fairy princess land, but in the real world people work. Not all jobs are pleasant.", "The feed water pressure in the boiler is usually well above 1000psi. The flahs point of water in the boiler is in excess of 500F. The water in the tubes is superheated up until the Flashpoint.\n\nTake 2 minutes and Google the definition of superheat. Yes, you are using pressure to move the boiling point of water. It's still discussed in degrees of superheat. Even under pressure, liquid water above normal boiling point, but below critical point, is said to be superheated. \n\nI mean [wiki even has an article about it](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superheated_water). Degrees of superheat is often analogous to the pressure in your system.", "And continue to eat the sandwiches. Yum. I'm going there for lunch now.", "I used to bartend at a high end japanese restaurant. Ended up quitting because after last call some entitled douche made a big scene about needing another cocktail for his girlfriend. Making another drink was possible legally, but I already told the rest of the bar I was done serving for the night. He makes a big fuss and talks to a manager who ends up saying I have to make the drink. Nothing is a bigger red flag to cut someone off than making a scene on the bar. No I do not have to serve him. I already served last drinks and now we are closing the bar. I got written up for that and put in my two weeks the next day.", "> What Marx missed is human nature.\n\nThis statement makes it seem like human nature is static and cannot change, however you also said this:\n\n>Human nature (or any other primal instinct in any other animal) is an ever evolving thing. Societies and other parts othe the environment in which a creature lives will force change on the nature of that being.\n\nSo maybe having an entire society predicated around greed is the problem, not that human beings are inherently greedy. You treat human nature as immutable in one answer but then admit that human nature is susceptible to change. If our society didn't inherently reward greed - maybe human nature would change to match that new society.\n\nMarx didn't miss that human nature is or was greedy. He was imagining a new society where a fundamental, driving force was not greed and how he perceived the steps to get to such a society.", "She said the coffee was 250 degrees 😂 since it’s America, you know they mean Fahrenheit. McDonald’s brews their coffee at 180. Water boils at 212. I think there’s some SLIGHT exaggeration…", "Job shaming is a serious problem in the US. I'm not sure what it's like in other countries but growing up here in the late 80s early 90s you were always told to try to do well in school otherwise you'd be picking up trash or flipping burgers for the rest of your life.\n\nWhen in reality - you do what you have to do to survive. If that means flipping burgers at McDonald's, then you do what you have to do. I don't know what kind of narcissistic piece of trash it takes to chew out a service employee, let alone assault them, but I think how we're taught to view these jobs is a contributing factor. Putting such significant focus on the size of your paycheck vs someone else is a serious problem. That's why so many people don't want to see wage increases for fast food workers. We're taught that's a trash job for trash people. If they start earning almost as much as someone earning 40-50k a year they feel like it devalues their own position is society. It's fucked up.", "as someone who works fast food, this has been far more often the case than not", "Soda has no value. It's sugar water.", "Cool story bro", "That excuse might taste better when you pay people enough and aren't abusing power dynamics to force people into living to work. Underwater welding is dangerous and hard but they get paid for it. When it's people like you just trying to devalue simpler jobs and say \"deal with it pussy\" making the work hard while also not getting paid, not so much. Try again", "It looked like he was trying to get her away. I would probably do the same instinctively. If I could get my thought right, I would've tried to pull his hands off while trying to get her away. At the end of the day, we haven't really gotten the \"how to get people away from an attacker\" training.", "LOL. No, you don't, but nice deflection, dipshit.", "Lol. You must be fun at parties.", "If your rude to fast food or any service worker your one of the dumbest MF in the world. They make your food and your are a horrible human also you suck at life. Be cool treat others how you want to be treated.", "uhm. maybe this is a story from Venus? or maybe physics doesn't work at that McDonalds?", "Yes, high concentration of sugar can increase the boiling point to rise. Sugar solutions (e.g. when caramelizing) do get above 250 (and much higher) but coffee does not have even close to that high of a concentration of sugar.", "As someone who’s worked in restaurants of all sorts for 10+ years, I think it’s time we outlawed restaurants.", "I lied when the website asked if I was over 13. Please don’t tell my parents.", "> Underwater welding is dangerous and hard but they get paid for it.\n\nThis is true. Working a fast food counter is not hard, which is why they are not equally paid. Good point, sir.", "😂", "what the hell , these people are nuts !", "No, it's mental disorders. Nothing justifies being shitty to someone like that. When someone does that it's because they have some kind of disorder.", "\\>> Take 2 minutes and Google the definition of superheat. Yes, you are using pressure to move the boiling point of water. It's still discussed in degrees of superheat. Even under pressure, liquid water above normal boiling point, but below critical point, is said to be superheated.\n\nI did. Colour me surprised :D By this definition, you have indeed superheated water all over the place.\n\nTo my defense, nobody (\\) working in a power plant or designing steam turbines, boilers or other components of the water-steam cycle in the power plants is referring to water above 100°С as superheated. As long as it is not boiling, it is subcooled.\n\nBy the way, water has no flash point. And yes, there is a wikipedia article about what flash point is and is not.\n\n(\\) Nobody is a strong word, obviously. Some countries or branches may have it in their vocabulary. Never encountered anyone using it while working all over the world in the industry, though.", "I don't care about karma points, so I'm ok with telling shitty people the truth. It was obvious to me that showing people their own problems would make them mad and downvote whatever I say. Evil people can think they're right too, so I understand where you are coming from. Just unfortunate who may have to suffer by the hands of you.", "Well this case was quite extreme. But food workers being disrespected regularly is very real, and most cases don’t make it to a news article.", "Did America no learn after the McDonalds incident", "> If that was \"human nature\" we would not have survived as a species.\n\nYes, because we work as a group, not individually. We keep each other accountable because we like to exploit but not be exploited. We force each other to be fair.\n\nTo think it's not in nature to exploit things to our benefit, even if that exploitation is other people, kinda seems to ignore what has been prevalent in nearly all of human history and nearly all cultures.", "I hadn't had any yet forgive me lol", "Autoclave", "This is why r/antiwork exists.", "215 is too high above water's boiling point of 212 though. Impurities can affect it, yes, but coffee isn't a salt dissolved in the water at a molecular level. Unless that was coffee-infused steam, I don't know how that's possible either. I just looked up \"coffee brewing temperature\" and google says 205. That sounds right maybe?", "Looking at some of the pricing in the comments and I'm not sure if it's just cheaper elsewhere (even factoring in exchange rates). \n\nLooking at the menu at McDonalds its 6.19CDN for a big mac and 6.29 for a quarter pounder with cheese. At a place near me I can get a freshly made hamburger that takes roughly the same time and costs the same - actually it may be a bit less. \n\nA 'meal' at McDonalds for a quarter pounder with cheese, fries and drink is 10.49CDN!!!\n\nMeanwhile right outside where I live, is a restaurant where I can sit down and get a full, freshly made meal for a couple of dollars more than that, no carbonated drink though but free water.\n\nYes its a bit more, but the point is it's a small bit more for a freshly prepared meal.\n\nEven if you do not go to a restaurant, I can get a meal from a place like Chipotle for about 11 dollars.\n\nFast food was meant to be cheap, and fast. Now its fast but quality suffers and its not even cheap compared to other options. Again this is in Canada, no idea if other parts of the world differ much in pricing. I know when I visited the states years ago food, at least fast food, seemed very cheap.", "Uhm, well, I work in a power plant (albeit power generation in the paper industry) and we do use this term in this format. And we use this in calculations as we use degrees of superheat to calculate pressure. So, on our HMI we will have tags for \"degrees of superheat\" related to feedwater. So, I guess I am one person you know now. \n\nEither way, this is a whole lot of quibbling, and semantics, and arguing over the basic fact that water can be superheated. Under pressure, and in exotic situations involving specific frequencies of electromagnetic radiation (microwaves). I don't know why people have such a knee-jerk reaction to this fact being stated, but whatever.", "Seriously? Starbucks sells it at 200°. Water boils at 212°. No way BK sells 250° coffee.", "It is extremely difficult to instantly vaporize water in the sense that vaporization requires huge amount of energy and the transfer of this energy is limited by the physics. So in praxis, steam explosion happens when the necessary energy is already stored within the liquid and the pressure of the system, which keeps the liquid... well... liquid, drops. When this happens, shit hits the fan really hard. It is called \"steam explosion\" for a reason.\n\nThis said, getting almost boiling water on your legs or any other body parts is no fun, either.", ">what a cop out, if you have a cough you can work. \n\nSure, you CAN work. But SHOULD you work in food service when you're sick? This is a rhetorical question, as I already know what your answer would be.\n\n>if there's no gloves, sure but fast food restaurants employ actual cleaners for the literal shit anyway.\n\nThis immediately tells me that you're fortunate enough to have never worked one of these shitty jobs before. They don't employ cleaners, nor do you get the required \"biohazard\" training. \n\n>people are just lazy and entitled. if you're worth more get a job that a 15 year old couldn't do. if you want to get paid show up to work and do what your job title requires.\n\nThis sounds like the kind of shit some monocle wearing asshat would've said in the year 1900 before OSHA and fair labor laws. \"Why should I pay you coal miners in U.S. currency when plenty of people would be fine just shopping from the company store! In some states, they let children work in the mines!\"\n\nAlso, people are quitting jobs that a 15 year old couldn't do. That's why there's a labor shortage.", "Oooh, so maybe it was 2 numbers getting transposed instead? That would make more sense than the 250/215 thing", "Holy crap you might be the most pathetic person I come across today and it's not even 10 AM yet.", "I'm sure the guy who hates work so much he assumes everyone hates work has an excellent work ethic.", "LOL. You can fuck all the way off with your self-righteous bullshit.", "The co-worker was listening to the verbal exchange vs. just watching a security camera.", "toughest job in the military", "It's an obvious typo.\n\nBut for reference, exposure to 150°F water for two seconds is enough to cause third degree burns. \n\nhttps://www.cpsc.gov/s3fs-public/5098-Tap-Water-Scalds.pdf\n\n150°F coffee thrown on a person would cool slightly passing through the air, but then immediately soak clothing, making it difficult to keep from contacting skin. Hot water is nothing to fuck with, and throwing it on a person is egregious.", "150°F is equivalent to 65°C, which is 338K.\n---\n^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)", "I don’t get what the title has to do with the video?", "If they are serving 250°F coffee, they should be investigated for magic.", "250°F is equivalent to 121°C, which is 394K.\n---\n^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)", "And you want to apparently use the low wage as a reason they then have to follow whatever fucked up, randomized schedule their manager gives them just because and I call bullshit. Managers need to realize that they get to work with their employees* to build a regular schedule that allows everyone to get what they want. Good managers do that already, the fact you don't seem to grasp that is concerning...", "\\>> Superheated water is defined as water heated between the normal boiling point of 212F (100C) and the critical temperature of 705F (374C).\n\nTIL. I concur, using this definition the water over boiling temperature at 1bar is superheated.\n\n\\>> But, let's ignore that. You can also superheat water at home in your kitchen. Microwaves can superheat water even at atmosphere.\n\nYes, this is the phenomenon usually referred to by \"water superheating\". This is not happening at your plant, though. At you plant water is either subcooled or saturated in all points of the cycle, meaning, it is always under or at the boiling temperature of the system pressure.", "Their recommended subreddits are anarchist and socialist subreddits. They even link /r/LateStageCapitalism, which is an explicit anti-capitalist subreddit.\n\nYou're actually lying.", "Can you picture a drive through where the staff are paid well and the food is always top notch/expensive, so all the people using the drive thru are wealthy folks who have reputations to uphold?\n\nThat would be way more strange than anything in this video.", "I'm gonna trust a police report over a dumb redditor any day, besides you lost all credibility with your last sentence", "lol have you checked their related subreddits, by chance?\n\nAlso, if the opposite of capitalism is not communism, than what is it? And what's the opposite of communism?", "wtf, for missing ketchup, we even have to pay 50c for ketchup in MCd.", "Masking is a specific issue; mistreating retail and food-service personnel I seriously doubt is tied to politics.", "my cousin spilled tea from McDonald on her hand 2 weeks ago. Also 2nd degree burns. But we are not in US so no suing here.", "Why do you think Boomers like places like Applebee’s so much? It’s not the food it’s the service. It’s them getting wield a modicum over power over someone else.", "If the coffee was actually 250 degrees, it would have been steam and I’ve never seen steam stay in a cup that could be thrown.", "Yes! I get furious watching him to try hold her back like she’s the wrong one!", "Yes, but this phenomenon is the phenomenon more relevant to the conversation in this thread. Because it would be technically possible for a Burger King employee to microwave a cup of water and give a customer a cup of superheated water. Not saying this happened. It's highly unlikely. But, this is a situation that could be possible. And it would be disastrous for everyone involved if it ever did happen.", "not really people want to do stuff, maybe different stuff every day, nobody wants to go to work every day for 40 years.", "Cool bosses spring for Jersey Mike's. The clearly superior sandwich out of them all.", "Yeah, that's physically impossible at 1 atm of pressure. Coffee is like 98% water, and doesn't impart anything that would dramatically affect the boiling point so there is no way to get it above 212 F without being in a pressurized environment. Maybe if they were in Sea Lab at the bottom of the ocean, but not possible anywhere near the surface of the earth.", "Heck I guess you're right. I take back my downvote.", "Every single person I’ve seen had this problem has been a problematic customers. \n\nI worked in a drive through for years. Whenever I went out to eat my orders were always correct. \n\nThe main issue seems to be communication. Speak clearly, concisely, and simply, without talking like your speaking to a toddler. Read the labels of stuff straight off the menu, use their language, try not to modify or substitute stuff. People become robots when they’ve been taking orders for 10 hours straight, you kind of got to speak to them like a robot.", "> I assume it is because they come from loveless marriages where their spouse has all the control.\n\nGive the women some agency of their own. They can be shitty people without the cause being men.", "Well, why \\wouldn't\\ you want to select the toppings and extras you like?", "....is putting up with these entitled bitches.\n\nhttps://www.stripes.com/branches/air_force/2021-07-07/mountain-home-air-force-viral-video-green-gonzalez-2077240.html", "They are their own ideas and forms of governance and financial operations. They're not opposites more than the opposite of green is blue. If you truly believe they are opposites then you have fallen into ignorance. Perhaps you don't know that many communist countries run capitalistic tendencies, and that capitalism occurs in democracy and communism.\n\nAnd keep in mind I don't just fucking LOVE communism, I just hate how ignorant people are of financial and social philosophies. It's like you heard Rush Limbaugh say public schools were communism and decided you'd live your life on that.", "See , \\that\\ is anactualargument", "I fully support any employee giving a rude/abusive/unruly/aggressive customer a well deserved beatdown.\n\nLike this guy: https://old.reddit.com/r/WinStupidPrizes/comments/pst7t8/jumping_over_the_counter/", "Ya it's very much that. My parents dislike the poor. I work with them and I hate the stereotypes.", "No way was it heated and poured into a cup while remaining superheated.\n\n250 is not a fact, it was hyperbole.", "Yeah she handles herself well, let the girl deliver some discipline", "Holy fuck yes. I wasn't even attractive at the time (between a 3 and a 5, chubby, shaggy hair, not my best life) but for the few weeks I put out clothes for Goodwill I would have these skeezy old gay guys grab my ass almost every day. My boss told me to just deal with it and after a lengthy yelling session where I had to threaten to get a lawyer I was thankfully moved elsewhere. Still bothers me 9 years later and I wonder how many other dudes are being molested with no way of fighting back or getting help.", "Yes. We are absolutely taught money = morals. No money = bad people.", "I love my coffee in a gaseous state.", "> unskilled\n\nThis one always really bugged me. I understand what they really mean is \"the job required neither college degree nor vocational certification\" which is true. Would be nice if they came up with a different term since so many people seem to completely lack basic customer service skills.\n\nIt's not easy to keep a smile plastered on your face while some fat asshole screams at you for not putting enough artificial cheese product in the little plastic cup when they paid 25 cents for it. That's a skill which requires practice and effort.", "Fast food places don't microwave coffee. Take your incorrectly applied fact and go home.", "The way Quiznos does...oh wait...\n\nJoking, I know they're trying to come back.", "\\>> Uhm, well, I work in a power plant (albeit power generation in the paper industry) and we do use this term in this format. And we use this in calculations as we use degrees of superheat to calculate pressure. So, on our HMI we will have tags for \"degrees of superheat\" related to feedwater. So, I guess I am one person you know now.\n\nThis is what I thought. The world of warm water and utility boilers is a wonderful, but a very strange and wicked place. I'll keep it in mind in the future.\n\n\\>> I don't know why people have such a knee-jerk reaction to this fact being stated, but whatever.\n\nProbably because this term is used as a technical jargon in the specific industry and is commonly understood differently outside of it. But yes, if \"superheated\" means \"liquid and over 100\" then there is indeed nothing special about it.", "Seems like most idiotic things are from teens to mid-30s adults. People need to grow up. \n\nStupidly over-emotional about dumbass shit.", "\"You don't wanna end up working one of the few jobs you can get at 16 and in high school, do you?!\"", "I forgot that the laws of physics are different in BK than McDs", "Okay what do you want to compare the cheapest sandwich at panera for like 7 dollars to the cheapest at McDonald's which is like a dollar? You can get a giant soda for a dollar at McDonald's. You can get like a 40 piece McNugget for like 10 bucks or some shit. It's WAY cheaper across the board.", "I worked with commercial coffee makers for years. You don't understand. By the time coffee is 250 degrees F it is practically exploding. I assume this was a typo or a misreading and the actual temperature was 205 F.", "Nobody:\nMe: who gets coffee at burger king?", "Not to mention that you don’t make the coffee with sugar in it. You add mix it in after the coffee is boiled. So the sugar/cream you add actually cools the coffee.", "\"The coffee was 250 F\"\n\nHmm boiling point of water is 211 F. Max hot water setting on a commercial coffee maker is usually around 205 F. The only way they could have got it that hot is if they had nuked it in the microwave, and it would be spitting and boiling violently at 250 F.\n\nI'm sure the coffee was really hot, but this is an extreme overstatement.", "The coffee could not be 250F. That would just be a cup of steam.", "I think we’re in agreement right? Basically calling out the person saying McDonald’s isn’t that cheap by comparing the most expensive item to the cheapest at Panera and saying they’re making a bad argument", "The old lady only wanted $20,000 to cover her surgery, but McDonalds spent A LOT more money to basically slander her afterwards.", "Yeah, that would be 121 C, and it's coffee (water), not fryer oil. [The internet tells me](https://www.verywellhealth.com/examples-of-second-degree-burns-1298346) you can certainly get 2nd degree burns from scalding hot water, so the whole thing is plausible, except for that number.", "This is the only phenomenon relevant here because fast food restaurants do not serve their coffee in pressurized cups. \n\nWhether is possible or not. I doubt that you can superheat a BK coffee in a BK coffee cup because the liquid is not pure enough and the cup is not smooth enough to suppress the start of boiling process. But who knows, it may not be impossible after all.", "The f physics part was because it’s not a rolling boil, it’s vapor. It’s impossible to have a cup of coffee that hot.", "Fat girls always causing trouble", "Only in the good ol USA. \n\nDont fuck with their fast food or else chubbs gets angry.", "Yeah I guess lol my b, hard to keep track of which people are saying which. I just believe people would claim McDonald's is expensive compared to most other eating out options. And it's really only the speciality sandwiches that are even debatable. The value stuff is crazy cheap.", "Not even in a microwave, the liquid would still only be 212F, the excess energy would go into phase changing the liquid to gas.\n\nIf the BK was a pressurized restaurant at around 40 or more BAR that’s allow the Coffee to remain liquid at 250F", "I suspect this will be changing in the future with minimum wage increases. I know I started working more than 40 a week since I can make 80% as much as my degree requiring job and it's easy labor. My boss loves me since I am extremely overqualified and enjoy working there. I often remind customers that my \"shitty, unskilled side-gig\" pays well and when they learn how much some even inquire about getting hours.", "I've been screamed at over 10 cents worth of lettuce while working at Jimmy John's, so I'm not sure this theory tracks. Control freaks are going to try to have control wherever they are.", "I don't care what you're going through, if you act out like this you deserve to have what little control you have left in your life revoked.", "That's the problem. 30 second sandwiches max, or everyone's in trouble.", "I mean, I didn't invent the technical jargon or create the wiki pages. I was just familiar that it existed. So, this terminology is probably used fairly widely. I was under the assumption that anyone boiling water for a living would be aware of it. I guess YMMV.\n\nWater...hell, fluids are weird. Most people are familiar with them in a very specific range of physical conditions. But, many very familiar fluids start doing weird things in more exotic conditions. Like, with water and the triple point. Most people can't imagine a condition where water can be solid, liquid and gas at the same time. But, that condition exists.", "Lol my dad exerts no power over my mom and she even makes more money than him. She's just an asshole. There's also a privilege to being a woman it's called benevolent sexism.", "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\\_ZXeFPpPJeI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZXeFPpPJeI)\n\nfeel like this is appropriate here.", "I wonder if the king took care of the worker.", "You mean the poor people who are most likely to actually work in these kinds of shitty jobs and are therefore the most likely to empathise with the workers?\n\nFrom my experience, the stereotypical 'karen' comes from a more middle class background. Not that anecdotes = evidence.", "Wouldn't coffee that's 250 degrees be steam and not liquid?", "Lol my thoughts exactly.", "There are clearly societies that treat people more equally even in a microsociety. That being said I don't think true equality will ever exist. \n\n\nAmerica thrives on a culture of narcissism.", "JJ already has a sandwich that's everything I'd put on it anyway so I'm just lucky in that aspect. But also, Kickin' Ranch.", "Not enough ketchup equals a fight?", " Coffee 250°? She'd have more than 2nd degree burns...", "I couldn't disagree more. Maybe for a couple of months you would just not do anything but watch Netflix. But that gets old really quick. There are plenty of societal pressures as well as a sense of fulfilment and worth when you contribute to society either through work or volunteering that would just be lacking in your life and would drive you to seek work or other fulfilling activities. In pretty much every UBI experiment and giving homeless people cash experiment, we've seen virtually no decrease in hours worked.", "Dont fuck with anyone making your food. Its so easy to get foot lettuce in your food.", "\"According to arrest records the coffee was 250 degrees F.\"\n\nUmm.", "While I agree with you sentiment, I think we should also increase the number of 0s on those people's paychecks. We're seeing fast food companies literally fly executives who make $100k+ year out to locations to run the drive-thru window because they can't hire enough hourly employees.\n\nThink about how perverse that is, how much it speaks to our classism. We have two people working the window, they both have the same impact on sales, but we'll pay one $150k and pay for a hotel for them to stay in, while the other (local) employee gets $30k and has to pay their own rent. \n\nAnd that same company, with a straight face, will claim that no one wants to work, and they can't afford to pay more, then turn around and double executive bonuses.", "Which is funny because if the customer was always right, most of these shitty low wage retail and fast food jobs wouldn't need to exist.", "It's just weird, I was a lifeguard at age 15 and nobody thinks that job is for the lazy, entitled, or unambitious.\n\nI've worked at a gas station, it was more labor intensive and demanding ofe than being a lifeguard was lol", "So, an ocean of Lester Burnhams, if you will.", "250F?\n\nDoubt", "“Now hiring” qualifications are: Minimum 5 years experience, strong people skills, BA, MBA, and some MMA.", "\"DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?!?!?!?!?!?\" \n\n\"The fact that you have to ask that means you aren't who you think you are. Back of the line, please.\"", "Probably controversial, but has anyone noticed that the coffee was stated to be 250 degrees? It’s physically impossible because, science. Not to say 200 degree coffee would be much better……", "Damn, that's horrifying. You're gonna give me nightmares. I hope you're doing okay now", "Sorry, I'm busy. I wasn't referring to flash point by the proper scientific definition. Again, a bit of technical industrial jargon. I mean flash point being the temperature at which a defined volume of water will (damn near) instantaneously change to steam. In uncontrolled environments, this can cause a [steam explosion](https://youtu.be/78CBUcGtfOs) and can be catastrophic. \n\nThis is why defining \"superheat\" of water can also be important. In more mundane situations of heating water at, let's say 50psi, you can achieve significant superheat of water without boiling. 250F would be realistic in this situation without generating significant steam. Now, let's say your vessel suddenly vented to atmosphere. All the water in your vessel could instantaneously evaporate into steam. For every mole evaporated, you're gonna make 22.4L of steam. If it's a lot of water, then you got serious, serious problems as your vessel explodes. \nI think this is also a big reason why the technical jargon regarding superheat exists.", "All of this makes sense once you realize a cop wrote the report", "And in the corporate world, admins who think they carry the same weight as the execs they work for. It's one thing when they are pushing a request on behalf of the exec in question, but when they try to pull personal favors under the guise of the importance of said exec. Yeah, no... back of the line. please.", "Yeah, someone transposed the numbers in the notes/script and they read the wrong number", "What are these fast food chains doing to protect workers!?", "\"Yes, Hyacinth...\"", "Having worked in fast food and retail i can say its the same across the board, people treat retail and service staff like scum. It can be worse in fast food because of late hours increasing the likely hood of drunk or otherwise influenced individuals showing up", "No, fuck that entitled little bitch.", "In my area a normal medium meal at mcdonald's is $13.\n\nAnd it's fucking hot garbage. Only reason I stop by McD's is to get their dollar sodas because Coke just hits different there than other places (because of the exclusive agreement they have ofc).", "Sucks that you and /u/rdb479 are getting DVd, but I'm a liberal living in one of the most liberal cities in the U.S. (definitely the most liberal in my conservative state, TX) and I agree. Assholism knows no party lines. The tantrums are the same, they are just triggered by different issues.", "You seem to be ignoring that throughout history, those two have fought against each other. Marx was very much critical of capitalism, and made communism something that was opposed to capitalism. Him saying a couple of nice things about capitalism doesn't make marx a capitalist. He's still by and large a communist and so is that subreddit.", "My area McDonald's a medium meal is around $13. I can go get a significantly larger and somewhat healthier meal at Boston Market for the same price. Or get a sub sandwich for <$10. Or get a pizza for <$10.\n\nReally depends on the area. I went to school in western PA for a couple years and the prices at McDonald's was nearly half that of my area, I was pretty shocked when I came back home.", "~~Although~~ ~~https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superheating~~ ~~exists,~~ (Edit: Not crossing out because it's not true or valuable information to be aware of, but people seem confused by its relevance in spite of the rest of the comment clarifying how I don't actually think the coffee was above boiling. JFC)\n\nMost mainstream vendors have machines that seem to limit their coffee temperatures after that McDonald's lawsuit in the 90s. However they still for whatever reason serve it at temperatures much, much hotter than most people prefer (but still below boiling): https://www.realclearscience.com/quick_and_clear_science/2019/07/18/study_finds_that_restaurants_serve_coffee_way_too_hot.html", "Treat yo self...to mob violence", "[Superheating](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superheating) \n \n >In physics, superheating (sometimes referred to as boiling retardation, or boiling delay) is the phenomenon in which a liquid is heated to a temperature higher than its boiling point, without boiling. This is a so-called metastable state or metastate, where boiling might occur at any time, induced by external or internal effects. Superheating is achieved by heating a homogeneous substance in a clean container, free of nucleation sites, while taking care not to disturb the liquid. This may occur by microwaving water in a very smooth container.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Meh, I don’t care about fake internet points. It is rather showing and sad to see the whole us vs. them mentality though. It’s sad to see the echo chamber can’t realize that their own shit don’t stink", "She's being charged with a felony violation of the laws of physics.", "It's pronounced \"Bouquet!\"", "This was me at Sam’s Club when they passed me up for a promotion, hired on a guy who knew nothing about my department and then asked me to train my own boss as he actively tried to exercise his “authority” over me at every turn.", "It's Reddit. What do you expect? Some people here need to touch grass more often.", "I understand the shitty jobs but the issues addressed in the video are because of shitty customers.", "I don't really know. I definitely don't know enough to say it's impossible. Water is weird and how solids behave suspended can get weird. I would say it's probably about as possible as me hitting the Mega Millions jackpot twice.", "I think americans tend to have stronger opinions on what they want, for better or for worse.", "Can someone explain how coffee could have been 250 Fahrenheit? That's over 120 celsius, that would have had to be held at pressure to get above the boiling point of water surely?", "That isn't true though, since we are talking about a solution and not just water now that its coffee. The TDS is going to impact the boiling point and increase it. To calculate how much before it starts to boil we need to know the molecular weight, which we do not. \n\nIt is reasonable to assume 211 can be exceeded without boiling, though 250 might still be a stretch.", "Why was the coffee 250 degrees ? Big lawsuit on the way.", "Sounds like they actually did need you and had work for which you would be paid.", "And its delicious", "Correct. 212 degrees F is the boiling point of water and the beginning of the phase change from liquid. Any amount of energy added will increase the rate of the phase change but will not raise the temperature of the liquid. Coffee has some suspended solids in it which could account for a slightly higher temperature but i highly doubt it would be remotely near 250 F.", "I've never had a problem with the water foaming over, but I usually boil with no lid and stir it like once or twice while its cooking.", "Limp wrist \"the customer is always right\" managers have gave rise to the Karen", "Yeah, it doesn't prevent sticking if its added to the water though.", "It's really dependent on what pasta you cook. Some lose a lot of starch to the water.", "Nope, it's far simpler than that. It's the \"my life sucks so it's to time to make them feel bad\"", "For years and years people have used that as an example of frivolous lawsuits when the lady actually had her GODDAMNED CUNT BURNED OFF", "I have a feeling that this is why the manager at the Tim Horton's I use to work at liked me on nights, nobody came in looking to start trouble if I was there.", "italian nightclub comes with mayo on it. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nsource: illinois", "why is it impossible to heat a liquid 20C above its boiling point?", "Why the fuck is coffee being sold at 250f. WHY?", "Meanwhile they probably think the way YouTubers talk is perfectly normal", "You still do not brew coffee at a rolling boil though.", "That's like looking at the cost/benefit analysis of buying a loaf of bread and ignoring the dietary value to talk about the little cardboard tag that keeps the bag closed.", "Yes, but you can't throw super heated coffee. It would instantly turn to steam the moment it was jostled. \n\nI think the chances of that coffee being 250 is close to zero.", "Just because they're opposed doesn't make them opposites. They are opposed typically", "Price differences don't happen for no reason, buddy. It's also irrelevant.", "It does. However, the \"Vito\", their \"classic\" Italian sub, does not. I prefer the Vito because the ratio of bread to fillings is ideal to me, but I request mayo. I find the Italian nightclub too packed with fillings for my taste, plus it's more than I want in a meal.", "Or he didn't have the benefit of all this hindsight and saw 2 people fighting and tried to separate them ASAP. I don't think he did anything wrong at all. He got her out of harms way relatively effectively. Good job", "Yes, that is the way you're looking at it. Glad we're on the same page", "That's why this is my last time replying because people who don't care about how much destruction they are causing means I'm wasting my time on a nobody.", "Combine that with \"it's a free country\" and you've pretty much figured out America.", "Sure. But also, a lot of people who work at unskilled jobs are the same.", "Or a typo and it was 205 maybe", "Work doesn't have to mean \"40 years of servitude\", nor does it have to change \"every day\" to be enjoyable. Ain't nobody who's passion is farming who finished that in a day. \n \nYou probably think of this in terms of your personal hobby, but a lot of people work (sometimes even within an organisation) as a long-term occupation. \n \nImagine if starting tomorrow, you wouldn't need to work a single day of your life - but you wouldn't be a millionaire or something that can party every day or spend his time in the Maldives. What would you do? Rot in your room for the rest of your existence? No, you wouldn't. Maybe for the first year, while you rest. \n \nThere are many people who have a passive income which is enough to live on comfortably, who still go to work - either because they enjoy it, or because it gives them meaning, or because being around other people is good for them. \n \nAs I said, not every job has the potential to be like this, no matter how good conditions are. Nobody will clean sewers because they like it - but with better welfare, better working regulations and more worker rights, a lot more jobs will feel like the above situation, rather than just something meaningless that you are forced to do to survive.", "Science! https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/363347/does-providing-more-heat-to-a-pan-of-boiling-water-actually-make-it-hotter", ">Sorry you don't grasp the way the real world works...\n\nI do, if I couldn't make a shift and didn't let them know in advance I found someone to cover it for me. Is that really such a hardship?", "at sea level the boiling point of water is 212 degrees F. So if in fact the coffee was 250 degrees F it would have been in the cup actively boiling. I find that hard to believe. It is easier to think they actually got their facts wrong, Adn we all know how good Fox is at fact checking", "Yeah it was smart to get out of there. Teaching cocktail classes over zoom now. Great pay, great hours, no stress.", "Thanks for pointing this out. Sincerely, 205° coffee drinker.", "Coffee was 250 degrees F, huh?", "The image of the report has 250 written so not the news anchors fault or the script", "250F? That coffee must have been ejecting at 15 psi of pressure.", "It's hilarious to hear the same people desperately tell people to get off their asses and \"get a job\" and then either treat the employees of a job like shit or tell them \"no not that job\".", "Throwing scalding hot water on anyone is considered assault but it’s hilarious the worker fought back and bit her, when it’s on it’s on", "People don't want to work anymore... what does this have to do with it?", "That is literally how people view fast food workers, have you seen the arguments from scumbags when the topic of raising the minimum wage comes up? They view them as unskilled and useless", "Two years ago. Why are you using a recent narrative for an incident two years old?", "It seems like everyone, everywhere is super mad about everything all the time.", "I see it more as a class issue. I've worked retail for a long time. Best time was when I worked at a bookstore or World Market. From my experience, the customers there were usually mid to upper middle class and weren't there because they had to be, but because they wanted to be. Also there is more of a liberal lean to those that want to read for relaxation or care about being 'international'. Never had anyone freak out about something, no tantrums, just good old boring suburbanites that have extra money to spend.", "Living around APG and EPG in Maryland, soooo much this. Their husbands could be like E4 or E5 and they'll still try to pull their husbands rank, and it could be on a literal civilian just off base they don't care.", "And then when you do refuse to work there for better opportunities suddenly youre too lazy to actually put in a hard days work. lazy either way", "To bad fast food is an essential service in the USA, if we cut it people will DIE! They will refuse all SLOW FOOD, till they die of hunger.", "That sucks but most places wouldn't want to fire an employee with years of experience. The cost of hiring and training a new employee is huge. Maybe I live in a place with a healthier economy but the only people I've worked with who have gotten fired were deserving of it.\n\nRegardless a company wouldn't survive if they fired an employee every time they couldn't make a shift.", "That description works better for those who regularly eat fast food…", "Water in this context can not be superheated.\n\nI'm fully aware how pressure and adulterants, dissolved solids etc can change the boiling point of water. The coffee brewed into water is not a substance that's going to allow water to superheat. Nevermind that it gets poured into a styrofoam cup and doesn't deform or outright melt it.", "I would think at that temperature the styrofoam cup would at least deform too", "I see where you’re coming from but I don’t think we are gonna agree you gotta understand I’ve worked many jobs and have had that very same thing happen have a good day homie", "All magma is liquid.", "I call bs on that claim.", "I don't understand the sarcastic title", "> This isn't normal human behaviour, but the effect of (capitalist in this case) worker exploitation. And we shouldn't normalise this.\n\nWanting to minimize your input to get the maximum output is absolutely normal human behavior and is not caused by capitalism. It's not a matter of \"normalising\", it's already been the norm for all of history.", "Water boils at 212 degrees.....\n\nNo way was the coffee 250 degrees.", "damn. I worked fast food when I had to. My relatives have done it too. I guess there's some really privileged people out there", "Mate, just because the arrest report says the coffee was 250 degrees doesn't mean that a lawyer would regurgitate that as fact in court. They wouldn't even need to cite the exact temperature when there is CCTV and medical evidence to cite instead. \"The coffee was hot enough to cause second degree burns\" is enough.\n\nUnlike the police officer that wrote the report, lawyers are required to attend six years of college. They aren't going to expose themselves to such an easy refutation like that.", "The story that businesses are promoting is that there’s a labor shortage because of federal unemployment. The truth is, unemployment ran out in most states months ago, and the real reason people don’t want theses jobs is because the pay sucks and the work sucks.", "> there is a cultural stereotype that \"if you work fast food, you are unskilled, lazy, stupid, or a criminal who couldn't get hired anywhere else\"\n\nWhich part of that isn't true?", "We know that the coffee was not 250 degrees, and how do we know that?", "Because these jobs still suck and aren’t worth doing for a below poverty rate salary.", "Is that what you think happened to a cup of coffee on the counter at a Burger King? Saying superheating of water is a thing in a thread about a mistake in a news story doesn't help the conversation and is fairly off topic. On the plus side, you are 100% deserving of a lawful downvote, not because I disagree with what you are saying, but because it doesn't add anything of relevant value to the topic.\n\nHaha! Have at thee, villain!", "Hey, if someone swings at Mike Tyson, his return fire will still be considered defending himself! I wish she was bigger or had something in her hand. That guy was able to hold on for far too long.", "250 is probably what the coffee maker is set to", "Burger King doesn't use Styrofoam anymore. I never said anything about coffee. I said water. All I said is that water can superheat and that water will not always boil at 212F. You've invented other comments.\n\nAt least by me, Burger King and most places use a lined paper cup with insulating paper sleeve. Kind of like Starbucks.\n\nAlso, if you look at the person I initially replied to, they weren't talking about coffee either. They specified water. Water can superheat.\n\nAlso, you're categorically wrong. [coffee can superheat also](https://www.acsh.org/news/2019/01/03/can-coffee-really-explode-microwave-13703) if microwaved.", "No one going to point out that coffee can't get to 250F?", "And if no one could cover did you drop your plans? Because your manager should have covered the shift if you couldn't and it's sad they didn't.", "Turn industrial coffee maker on", "In the video or all the Neil Tyson Degrasse’s in the comments?", "I'm the one talking about coffee. My comment is about coffee and dissolved solids from coffee being in the water.", "Came here for this comment. Like...what? That's impossible for it to be that temperature sitting in a cup on the counter. What the actual fuck are they reporting.", "I'm going strictly off memory here so it could be flawed but I'm pretty sure that the coffee that lady got burned with when it was spilled in her lap from McDonald's was kept at 180 to 190f. Which was enough to cause serious burns.", "Getting him away from her is the best outcome.", ">Why do we shit on people who have jobs that are required to make our society function.. If you like burgers, treat burger flippers with respect. If you like not having garbage piled up in our streets, treat sanitation workers with respect.\n\nI'll never understand how people can't seem to accept this concept. These jobs that so many people consider themselves \"too good for\" are essential for our modern society.\n\nIt comes up every time the minimum wage discussion flares up. \"Why should we pay some burger flipper x amount of money, there's no way what they do is worth that, blah blah blah...\"\n\nWell... Take your drunk ass into the kitchen at 11 PM and make your own fucking burger if it's such brain-dead, easy, worthless work. But no, instead, you'll scream and bitch and moan when your favorite fast food joint closes early because the staff got tired of being paid poverty wages to be screamed at by entitled shitheads.", "I don't understand that mindset. Why do they get or stay married if they hate each other so...", "I see, thank you for the explanation.", "I've known salaried people who work 100 hour weeks from being terrified to go home while their shrew wife is awake.\n\nThen they'll try to reap social/work credit, for dedication, off of their poor life choices and cowardice.", "I don't think many here have it. I think her actual accent was leaking out. You can hear it when she says \"fighting\" later.", "Well. The way stereotypes work is that sometimes it’s true and sometimes it’s not. But it’s a bad idea to treat people as though the stereotype is true.", "Love me some Firehouse", "Steam gets hotter than 212.", ">250\n\nClearly they meant 250 degrees C. Right? /s", "You got it!!", "Interesting take.\n\nSoo... By That logic...that would make Whole Foods the best retail job?", "They're spending their life putting up with Meegan.", "And too many people make judgements off of the name of the business too. I had a coworker who hated to mention that her husband worked at Walmart, because it didn't matter that he was a regional manager making 6 figures, nobody could get past the name and stereotype.", "They so deserve a come back. They dunked all over every other sub chain.", "Only option? What life circumstance would make it so that overpaying for disgusting, unhealthy food is the ONLY option?", "You didn't specify coffee. You specified the boiling point of water. But, [coffee can also superheat](http://www.And.com/ [coffee can also superheat](https://www.acsh.org/news/2019/01/03/can-coffee-really-explode-microwave-13703). Look it up.", "Yeah, they were criminally mismanaged.", "Even if you're homeless there are cheaper and healthier ways to eat than going to McDonalds.", "This stereotype just like others exists because most of the time its based on truth.", "How would they even be able to know the temperature of the coffee that was thrown seeing as it was... thrown? Did they temp check it before the throw as the report stated the coffee was already on the counter.. this makes no sense.\n\nCheck the temperature of the coffee in the maker.. guarantee it isnt 250 on the boiler plate. How could an aerated coffee in styrofoam sitting at room temp be hotter than the coffee in the machine?", "Either coffee steam or a custom designed, highly pressurized, super-heated coffee vessel.", "The title degrades the information in the video.", "Yeah, wtf did they make that coffee with?", "It's impossible for coffee to be 250° unless its under pressure.", "Yup. And they'll choose work that fulfills them, or that they feel compensates them fairly for the work that they do. Because they can now literally afford to shop around for work, and won't die of starvation or from lack of healthcare just because they didn't take the first job offer thrown at them. \n\nAKA an actual free market, not this nightmare horseshit we're all pressed into participating in now.", "Fuck that lady, and fuck super hot coffee. 250 degrees F is however impossible, since the water will boil at 212. (100C) drinks should be served at a drinkable temperature 130 F (55C)", "Hey if it’s sometimes true what’s wrong with stereotyping a group of people?", "But there's a hole in the bottom of the sea.", "She landed some nice ones. I hope they fucking hurt.", "I think hurt people hurt people. \n\nI think there is little reason if looking for unicorns in a field of horses.", "yeah, that makes more sense.", "Thats how bad science illiteracy is in this country. Nobody who read or wrote anything about the police report or this story blinked twice at the concept of a cup of coffee steam.", "This is true on the individual level. My point is that the stereotype makes it easier for these people to direct their energy towards food workers.", "I would have karate chopped that dudes wrist and that’s my diplomatic solution lol", ">Called my boss and told her she had nice nipples.\n\n>To be clear, her nipples were nice when I was sober too, I just wasn't brave stupid enough to tell her. For those wondering, it worked out. \n\nThis loser's comment in r/AskReddit earlier today lmao but \"My bosses don't respect me because I work too hard\"\n\nMy eyes could not be rolling any harder.", "I got you. We know longer accept probabilities. Not everybody gets lung cancer from smoking. Might as well just say fuck it.", "Wow, 250 degree coffee? That's some seriously impressive physics hacking they've got going on at the BK!", "I hope this girl is going to be okay… nice specifics Chan 5", "250°F? This coffee was not that hot, considering it's in a cup at atmospheric pressure.", "This coffee was in a cup on the counter though... That's atmospheric pressure and can not possibly be hotter than 212", "I can't stand people who are rude and demanding to servers or fast food workers. I mean just the other week I went to Wendy's and they didn't have enough change to give me back so I just said \"No problem, just as long as I get my cheese burger!\" and laughed a little. The dude looked so genuinely relieved I didn't berate him. So he a laughed a little and threw in some fries for free. If me just being nice and cracking a dad joke was enough to de-stress him for a few seconds, man. Think about what they go through on the daily.", "Yeah I don't disagree really. My point is more that \"class\" distinctions we make here at the bottom are pretty much bullshit (revealed by the other economically irrelevant things that get associated with them, which you pointed out). Yes there's a difference between $20K/yr vs. $50K/yr vs. $75K/yr, but really up until (I think?) around $150K/yr household income, we're all really one \"class\", functionally, because we'll still all have to work.\n\nThe class divisions we draw between ourselves here are bullshit because as you say, we're still all working. We should work together, as one class, against policies that favour those in the other class - those who really never have to worry about money again. Because those policies almost inevitably come at our expense.", "This makes sense", "I don’t quite follow your train of thought here. Are you arguing that because some of these people are lazy, unskilled, uneducated that we should treat them, as a whole, with less respect?", "Eh maybe. I mean, I've known people that have worked at whole foods and enjoyed it. But I think because food is involved it can lead to some people being over the top. No one is going to die if they don't get the latest book from david baldacci or if they don't get the adirondack chair in their favorite color. People will flip if they don't have the right kind of kale or chia seeds heh.", "Not fast food, but I did a brief stint at a Dollar General as a cashier and people were FUCKING TERRIBLE to me. They allow their children to be horrible as well. I feel bad for anyone working with the general public.", "No way! That’s even smaller than the A&W third pounder! \n\n\n\n/s", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MYAFfeNO00", "This episode of [Citations Needed](https://citationsneeded.medium.com/episode-107-pop-torts-and-the-ready-made-virality-of-frivolous-lawsuit-stories-54cb545e9357) talks about tort reform and it is fantastic", "Which probably suits fast food employers just fine.", "No simply stating that the stereotype of fast food workers being fat, lazy, uneducated, and unskilled is because the MAJORITY of fast food workers are fat, lazy, unskilled, and uneducated.", "100%", "Coffee @ 250degrees?\nWas it rapidly turning into steam because boiling point is 212", "Well, for one, 200 degrees is within the realm of possibility, so stating it like that wouldn't be any problem.\n\nBut the other thing is that it's not just the victim and the prosecution. It's the video, and the eyewitness statements. The medical report that will state the time the injuries were sustained, the severity, and the likely cause.\n\nIn my opinion, any lawyer that seriously tried to argue \"maybe she got burned some other way\" would be a fucking FOOL to do so, even if the prosecution slipped up and said it was 250 degrees.\n\nHell, they're more likely to lean *into* the \"coffee was too hot\" side of things, make it the fault of the restaurant. \"Your honor, my client had no way of knowing that the coffee she was throwing was hot enough to scald this woman badly enough to need skin grafts. This is obviously the responsibility of Burger King.\"", "Peter Griffin: \"Ahh America\"", "So to clarify, I don't care who they are recommending. The content of /r/antiwork has nothing to do with communism.\n\nJust like in /r/conservative, their related subs include /r/monarchism which is...\n\n> for those who think monarchy is a noble and viable alternative to the crude and materialistic mob mentality of republicanism.\n\nwhich I highly doubt would be attractive to most of their republican, capitalist members.\n\nDon't accuse me of lying. Don't try to shove people into a political label that is too broad to make any actual sense in the real world in which we live. Don't argue against the interest of working folks.", "Noted", "So she threw steam?", "Bald fucker got a free side of rights.", "Huge fight with my previous manager about being forced to make food with no gloves during a fucking pandemic.", "They are reporting the news not facts my guy.", "As a customer I will only shop where I can’t be wrong", "To be fair, if I don’t get what I want, I’ll scream.", "You don't have to put so much effort into being and staying wrong.\n\nBut for artistic license, I'm not gonna fight it.", "Lol wut", "Yes, but the coffee wouldn't stay 150 for more than a few milliseconds. By the time it soaks clothes or gets on skin, it cools significantly. Still hot as hell, but 150F liquid wouldn't be in contact for any perceivable amount of time. It would cool to the 120-130 range almost instantly and probably be \"shower\" warm in less than 10 seconds.", "People are angry as hell in the US. Jesus Christ you guys are nuts 🥜", "\"If it had been me, I'd have done a flying sidekick over the counter that would have connected with the perpetrator's jaw. This would have caused him to release his hold on my coworker so she could flee to saftey and would have put me on the the other side of the counter, where I would have executed a perfect rear naked choke to subdue the man into compliance until the authorities arrived. Then the customers would have done a standing ovation.\"\n\n^ Redditors that would have just stood there like idiots.", "I worked for Sams club for 2 years back in 2007-9. Worst job I’ve ever had.", "> Either way op was wrong about water instantly turning into steam at the temperature Mc Donald's served it at.\n\nIf it was served at 250 F (which would require it to be generated under pressure), it would instantly vapourize to steam (assuming the cup is not under pressure). Some of the steam would self-condense but it would emerge from the pressurized vessel as steam.\n\nSomething boiling remains at the boiling point until all of the liquid is gone, the act of changing phase (from liquid to gas) uses up all of the energy being put into it (latent heat). It is impossible to serve coffee at 250F as a liquid at atmospheric pressure. You can't heat something past it's boiling point at atmospheric pressure except under extremely stable conditions where the liquid superheats and can't form a nucleation reaction to produce the gas (steam), which is just not possible when pouring coffee.\n\nOP isn't wrong, if it was genuinely served at 250F it would be all steam.\n\nMaybe don't get into reddit arguments about things you're googling about for the first time.", "Nothing in business happens without reason. That reason might be just as simple as the guy charging $10 for a block sells enough at that price to make him not want to drop it lower.", "Third degree burns occur at 130F in thirty seconds, this woman received second degree burns, and your milliseconds claim is bunk.\n\nTry it yourself. Get the instant read thermometer out of the kitchen, wrap it in a layer of tshirt, and toss 150F water from a few feet away.\n\nWe'll wait.", "The key words you used in your comment are \"other fulfilling activities\".\n\nI will use my father as an example again. He's 76, been retired for 20 years, works on old cars in his garage for longer hours now than he ever did when employed. But do you consider what he is doing \"work\"?", "I'm not blaming anyone but it really would be nice if these fast food chains stopped handing people drinks that cause 2nd degree burns and it's not even when you drink it.\n\nI mean can you imagine actually taking a sip of coffee that hot? It'll literally cook the inside of your mouth I don't get how that's even legal. It's like if you were a mechanic and asked for a wrench and they gave you one that's red hot.", "You haven't tried the plasma Hazelnut yet?", "For sure.", "Lol", "I recently read the book \"On The Clock\" where the author went and jot jobs at shitty places like McDonald's and Amazon and the treatment she received from customers was appalling.", "Ahh customer service jobs where your primary skill set is learning to eat shit while smiling.", "Man, that's a scary thought. I just assumed these assholes are like this 24/7, and maybe they are, but maybe you're right, maybe they hide their asshole level among others in their life, where they don't want to deal with the consequences.", "I don't hate work. Never said I did. I get taken advantage of because I don't stand up for myself with employers. I've had an employer get in a position of not being able to pay me on time. I only quit when he fell two paychecks behind. Had another employer decide to expand the company. Hired in people that worked under my supervision at $5 more an hour than he was paying me (because no one would take the job at my pay).", "On a slightly unrelated note, Yasmine throws hands like a champ.", "I don't get it. I'd rather be alone than with someone so horrible.", "Your take is extremely accurate.", "But when the kid fails, it's entirely their own fault.", "The big brain move is to stay single and get a desk job on base so you can be the one banging the dependas", "Yep. I own it. It was a stupid thing to do and I probably should have been fired. Instead it broke the ice between us and we became great friends but not lovers. A girlfriend I met later became her best friend. It turned out much better than I certainly deserved for it to.", "Some people learn to live with a greater amount of cognitive dissonance than others. And honestly a lot of it is probably inherited as well. People grow up learning “this is the way it is” and never encounter anything that challenges their point of view", "That's fine. But no chain is always available. (Of course some folks have cars. Or a transit system like NEw York City's which goes everywhere frequently. Many have neither.)", "And when something finally comes along and gets in their way, it's a full on temper tantrum.", "If I could play god I would be interested in knowing if there are more incidents in fast food restaurants today compared to like 30 / 40 / 50 years ago", "They weren't customers, they just came to frown at you?", "What? McDonalds is still way cheaper than anything vaguely similar.", "I had a mother and daughter claim I tried to ruin there Easter when I forgot to give them the cooking by instructions for their take n bake meal. I apologized and gave it to them but the proceeded to curse at me and try and get me fired. Good day.", "[Louie C.K on the Opie and Anthony show making fun of broadcaster inflection.](https://youtu.be/hD3gV3zgMAs?t=233)", "Ok\n\nBut my original post was still correct largely. \nCoffee was not that hot, it would not be liquid if it was, which I understand now. Thanks.", "I'm not saying her injuries aren't severed and likely causing her anguish and pain. Nor am I countering your claims and your source that such injuries occur at temperatures. I'm merely countering that physics states that equilibrium occurs faster with more surface area. That's thermodynamics.", "Fuck Seinfeld", "It’s cheaper to keep her.", "Tbf, their pulling at her probably meant that if the attacker were to let go of her clothes to try to strike her, she'd be pulled out of his range.", "I agree with that, I usually can only finish half of an Italian night club. But actually I get the bread gutted,", "They would come in to “see what it’s all about”", "It's the dark side of American Exceptionalism (although it's not limited to the US, sadly). When wealth is equated with merit, the poor, even if they are poor by no fault of their own, are considered unworthy. So if you're face to face with someone who is clearly poor, and you've been indoctrinated to think that worth is proportionate to income, you're probably going to feel superior to that person. People like a pecking order.", "Was about to reply something similar. I remember thinking it was a big joke, what a crazy lady trying to sue because she was an idiot who spilled some coffee on herself.\n\nI think it was only in the last 10 years or so that it came back into my view and I learned what really happened. Fucking terrible.\n\nAlso makes a good point about how we can all be so easily influenced. Just think about how much of that goes on all the time.", "> Is that what you think happened to a cup of coffee on the counter at a Burger King?\n\nYou might have missed the \"much hotter than most people prefer (but still below boiling)\" comment I made.\n\nI only mentioned superheating as an aside (note the \"although\") to a comment someone else made that it couldn't get higher than 212, which isn't technically true for a controlled environment under pressure but definitely, yes, is correct given the situational context. I think superheated water is interesting and might not be something everyone knows about. So I tossed it in in case people wanted to read about it since it's definitely (very) loosely related, but I also added all of that supplementary text and linked research for more info on how fast food businesses do tend to serve coffee much hotter than anyone actually wants it to be, but again is definitely below boiling. Seems generally relevant to me in a discussion about .... fast food hot coffee burning someone from being too hot.", "How could the coffee be 250F when the boiling point is 212F?", "Correct.", "If water boils at 212 degrees then how was the beverage 250 degrees? I doubt it was boiling in the cup.", "My original comment didn't need to specify because the article was about coffee. As coffee is mostly water anyone with common sense wouldn't need a distinction made and could infer I referenced water in relation to making coffee.\n\nAlso, any liquid can overheat, any liquid can supersaturate, any gas can be turned into a liquid and then overheat under certain circumstances. I have a background in organic chemistry so these are things I'm already aware of but the fact remains, this is not a superheated cup of coffee served at 250f. It just is not.", "By sheer force of will you've turned your (mostly) irrelevant comment into one that has indeed spawned greater discussion. \n\nBut it is fair to say that this discussion, the one of your comment's capability of promoting relevant discussion, is, in itself, an irrelevant discussion with reference to the post in which it was made. By defending the content of your post, you have further derailed the comment chain to a meta discussion of a comment's worth, or even its right to exist.\n\nAs such, both of our comments, henceforth in this comment chain, are off topic and should summarily be downvoted to oblivion.\n\nI shall see you in the negative karma, sir or ma'am.", "Yet they desperately say that America is founded on “Christian values”. Hah", "Burger and fries for $8 god damn that sounds nice. The most casual non fast food place near me does burgers and fries at $17", "https://media2.giphy.com/media/3o72F6nWgL4DiiimaI/giphy.gif", "I guarantee you those people are like that to everyone not just fast food workers.", "This had to happen in st pete 4th and 38th. That place blows donkey dicks. It took like 5 minutes to get a single soda. that was it.", "Ask yourself why people want to win the lottery. Now sit down.", "\"But you're still coming into work tomorrow right? We are so short staffed.\" -Manager of that Burger King to the Burned and Beaten employee.", "I mean yeah it was? But you were just repeating what everyone else was saying. Even repeating what the person you replied to said, so not sure what it adds.", "Ok", "I work with folks that feel this exact way. When restaurants started rising starting salaries earlier this year, their response is always, \"Those asshole can never get my order right. Now we have to pay them more because they want better compensation?\"\n\nLike their the ones pay the salary. Most of the folks I work with still believe in Reaganomics and the dream that is pulling ones self up by bootstraps.", "Unfortunately, looking at it closely she isn't really landing any good hits. It doesn't help her fellow employee is pulling her back.\n\nBest thing to do is use your whole hand to wrap around one of his fingers or his thumb. Pull it back to the breaking point and he'll let go 100%.", "I’m sure it was hot but how was it 250F. Water boils at 212F. What is the boiling temp of coffee lol", "Which came first, the low pay for the job, or the apathetic employee?", "Reverse the roles in the second story. Girl grabs guy by the shirt and he starts punching her repeatedly while she doesn't hit back. He'd have the book thrown at him. That's not equal rights people.", "Eh, I worked at those places. You're either that or you're young and just needed a job.", "I dont get why its so hard to be nice. I always ask how those workers are doing before I even order and sometimes end up with free stuff because of it.", "250 K", "In addition to that I'm convinced that the predicted mental health crisis associated with the pandemic has taken on a form different to what was expected. Instead of seeing depression and suicides, we are seeing increases in paranoid delusion, increased aggression in public, etc.", "40 degrees above the boiling point of water FYI. So we can safely say, no it wasn't.", "“We have a club where we want to work but get more pay. What should we call it?”\n\n“How about ANTI WORK?”", "Water cannot exist in liquid form at 250°F. It’s not just a nitpick, it’s physically impossible at normal atmospheric pressures. You can verify this yourself by measuring the temperature of boiling water with a thermometer. The water will never exceed 212°F, no matter how long you boil it.", "Rich white people, even middle class, pushed that hard in the 90s-00s. It was the same for any service industry. Even as management I was told it wasn't a real job. But of course at that point I was management, so I could and did reply with \"Well if this isn't a real job, then I really can't help you.\"", "It’s literally impossible for coffee to exist at 250°. Water cannot remain a liquid at that temperature. It immediately flashes to steam.", "It’s literally impossible. Water boils off at 212°, it cannot exist as a liquid at 250° under normal atmospheric conditions.", "It wasn’t.", "If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, it's probably a duck.\n\nIdk what to tell you. They're maybe perhaps more into solidarity in the sense that they won't publicly label themselves so they don't alienate anyone (aside from being against work), but you can just LOOK and see the issue is predominantly related to wages and being a \"cog in a system\" sort of talk.\n\nDo you know what the phrase \"from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs\" means? Because if you do, it'd be a surprise to no one with common sense that the phrase perfectly describes the spirit of that subreddit. And who made that quote? Well not milton friedman, I'll tell you that much. Def not reagan either. \nIt was karl marx. And the phrase is tied to communism. It describes a perfect communist society in which whether you choose to contribute to work or not, you'll still get your needs met because the abundance of goods won't be horded buy the few. Hmmmm...hmmmm..... HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM WONDER WHO'D LIKE THAT??????? LMFAO \nYou would never hear the phrase uttered, nor supported, by those advocating for private ownership.\n\nWith that being said, it doesn't matter what you think that subreddit is or is not. It has a heavy tie to communism and socialism. It practically is that.\n\nAnd idk why /r/Conservative links to a monarchy subreddit. I'd strike that down as something in which it's more of a sort of \"this what we derived from\" than a \"this is who we're related to\". Unlike that of antiwork which clearly links to those subreddits for a more than obvious reason. You can't compare two entirely different subreddits with entirely different mods and think this disproves my point. Especially since antiwork also have flairs that, unsurprisingly, have no tags related to capitalism. They're all leftist flairs. None for AnCap; none for libertarianism; none for conservatism; none for anything that delves highly into private ownership. Which all of that just furthers my point that any kind of denial - or in your case, chocking it up to coincidence - is just delusional. \nEither way, if you've seen conservative talk, it'd be unsurprising to no one that they treat their politicians as kings anyways lmao.\n\nOne last thing, I never denigrated workers and what they believe in. I'm simply stating a fact. You're a commie, buddy (assuming you are also antiwork).", "That’s because it wasn’t 250°.", "It isn’t. It’s impossible. Water boils at 212°. It cannot exist as a liquid hotter than that.", "I don't want to defend people I don't know, but it's a well-known thing that anon is talking. Employees who are great at a job tend to not get promoted over bad employees.\n\nhttps://outofyourrut.com/7-dark-reasons-why-good-workers-dont-get-promoted/\n\nhttps://www.forbes.com/sites/lizryan/2018/03/07/the-real-reason-great-employees-quit-and-bad-employees-get-promoted/?sh=7fb205ea880d", "Because being a wage slave sounds great.", "You’re probably right. I’m just a social worker.", "Absolutely. Nice is easy. Neutral is soooo easy. Being a dick takes a lot of energy", "Wait can you elaborate on the last thing you said? I read that as: if the job I have isn’t a real job, there’s nothing I can do for you. Dig it that way for sure", "It's weird, I'm so nice to the workers, why is everyone so bad to them?\n\nThere's a BK near me and the guy refers to me as \"boss\", makes me feel good, very nice guy.", ">I'll never understand how people can't seem to accept this concept. These jobs that so many people consider themselves \"too good for\" are essential for our modern society.\n\nEspecially during a pandemic. Since fast food places remained open these workers were risking getting sick while keeping people fed, and they received no respect for it. Instead they're rewarded with more bad behavior from twats with no patience.", "Well it's nice when nice meets nice. When nice meets mean it's not so nice", "The world has gone insane", "Someone should tell them that \"Love thy neighbor\" does not mean love only those who can afford to live in your neighborhood.", "Oh christ, here were go.", "Absolutely agree. It’s created such a sense of entitlement and the loudest most demanding people are always rewarded. Customers in general are shit and anyone having to deal with them deserves at least an extra ten an hour.", "You'd be surprised how some people are literally one inconvenience from breaking down in public. Like all those tantrums of people for the minor issue of putting a mask on.", "PREACH", "Some people go straight from abusive households growing up to abusive households when married. Its just the behavior they are conditioned to see as normal, and that they are not deserving of better treatment.", "men are the real victims here, not the cashier that was attacked! cry more", "That exactly. If fast food or whatever isn't a real job then you can't have any of it from here.", "That's what people say when they know they're wrong.", "I think I said exactly that somewhere along the chain here. The original comment that starts all this was someone else stating that IF the prosecution was dumb enough to cite that number, it could harm their case.", "Yup. Did not know the math offhand but figured there was no way anything in a cup of coffee could make that much of a change.", "🤭", "Agreed I hope she gets all she has coming from the judge.", ">right? op complaining about doing his job at at fast food restaurant.\n\nI mean I complain about bullshit at my job too, lots of people do that? Don't really get your point here.", "> what a cop out, if you have a cough you can work\n\nHey I found the shitty supervisor!", "https://www.reddit.com/r/HolUp/comments/qd6dlj/on_a_chickfila/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf", "So because I eat there I am some sort of phobic? How dare you assume my phobias!", "Never said that. But you do support transphobes", "Cool story. Now if only they actually followed their guidelines.\n\nhttps://www.hilltopviewsonline.com/22859/viewpoints/22859/\n\nPlus they:\n\nRefused to allow gay couples on marriage retreats sponsored by the CEO\n\nPartnered with an organization (the Pennsylvania Family Institute) that wanted to make gay marriage illegal\n\nDirect quote from the COO on gay marriage: \"I think we are inviting God's judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say, \"We know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage\". I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about.\"\n\nhttps://thinkprogress.org/chick-fil-a-still-anti-gay-970f079bf85/\n\nThey finally got tired of the backlash and stopped donating to those orgs in 2019 supposedly but that doesn't reverse the decades of anti LGBT shit they've been doing", "Retail worker here. If you cover me with massive burns scars, don't ever get out of jail. Do whatever it takes to stay in (get in fights, tell the parole board to sit and spin, etc.).\n\nBecause if you get out, both of our lives will soon be over.", "Can coffee even get that hot? That's 121 degrees Celsius...", "Decades of propaganda rot the brain.. who knew", "So you start by saying it simply must be communist because it looks like it despite no content actually fitting in with communist ideals. Then pull quotes from Karl Marx which... well I don't know why. Then dismiss the conservative sub \"related subs\" section as \"derived from\" even though it's labeled \"related subs\" and tell me I can't compare the two. Then you go after me personally.\n\nI dunno, it looks to me like you don't really know what you're talking about.", "If you work at a fast food place you're usually poor. If you EAT at a fast food place you are generally \"unskilled, lazy, stupid, or a criminal\" or fucking retarded because only a fucking retard would consume that shit.", "> despite no content actually fitting in with communist ideals\n\nBlindPatrick.jpg\n\n> Then pull quotes from Karl Marx which... well I don't know why\n\nI explained it thoroughly why I mentioned it. \nIt clearly shows what the subreddit's leanings are even if it's never stated by the subreddit.\n\n> Then dismiss the conservative sub \"related subs\" section as \"derived from\" even though it's labeled \"related subs\" and tell me I can't compare the two\n\nYes. \nI'm inferring reasonable deduction here. \nMost subreddits have a \"related subreddits\" section. Some are basically extensions of the subreddit that links those subreddits and some are related in a very minor, almost negligible way. \nNormally I'd give a benefit of the doubt to /r/antiwork, but with all that I've shown before plus the fact that the related subreddits are all leftist subreddits, this goes beyond a coincidence.\n\n> Then you go after me personally.\n\nNo I didn't. But I will now...\n\n> I dunno, it looks to me like you don't really know what you're talking about.\n\nI get thinking requires work, and you're antiwork, but it's necessary here, and you're not doing it.", "Every point you made is just a rehash of what I already unpacked in the previous comment. Plus some kind of ominous threat of more personal attacks which is the big red nose on the clown face that is your comment history. Get help.", "> unpacked \n\nDon't flatter yourself.\n\n> Get help.\n\nGet a job", "It's a bastardisation of the phrase \"The customer is always right in matters of taste.\"\n\nBut that usually means that if a customer is happy to pay more money for you to replace the bun of a burger with bacon strips, you would try to accommodate. Not to scream and fight the staff because the house is out of chicken nuggets. Insanity.", "I guess it is. Paid.\n\n> Although I tend to think of food and sexual behaviour in different ways.", "Sometimes I wish o could be in a fight like this … it’s holy work to beat the stupidity out of assholes who think the world owes them something", "hahahah I noticed it too. I just shrugged it off as it being a quirky American accent. but your comment made me re-listen to it. it's so funny lmao", "What would you like me to do? I don’t own a franchise. Even as a catholic I couldn’t careless who my neighbors choose to love. \n\nI do love their fried chicken sandwich though.", "Well, what I would LIKE you to do is be like the rest of the reasonable people and not support companies that push things like that, but that seems to be too much to ask apparently", "You’re saying because I buy stuff that you don’t agree with i am not reasonable? That’s where you have to take your own advice. I have no issues with the LGBTQ community but I have issues with hypocrisy. Do you feel morally superior because you choose not to spend your money on goods that a particular companies views don’t align to yours?", "It has nothing to do with their views aligning to mine. If you knew that the owner of a shop was a pedophile, would you continue shopping there? If you knew that a product was made with child slave labor, would you continue buying it? No, right?\n\nThe fact that you continue buying products from a company that supports taking away rights from trans and gay people shows that, at best, you don't care what happens to them. It's basic human decency and has nothing to do with what I believe.\n\nIf you really had issues with hypocrisy, you wouldn't claim to be fine with LGBTQ people while supporting organizations that want to take their rights away, that's blatant hypocrisy", "So, what do you propose as a solution?", "You are probably the “people” I’m referring to", "Ho the F is their coffee 250F?! It is 120'C. 20 degrees above the boiling point.", "Its like a game of hungry hungry hippos but the kids playing look like adults.", "Dank, cordial, Robert's Rules of Order level compost-post", "Which is a perfectly reasonable temp", "Pretty sure that OP wasn't saying people want to stay home and be lazy bud. People don't want to work shit jobs for shit pay and get assaulted by entitled assholes anymore.", "Divorce laws are extremely unfavorable for the higher-earner, usually the man due to female hypergamy." ]	1,006	videos	NoBoDy WaNtS tO wOrK aNyMoRe!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WSONZil6gk	/r/videos/comments/qci8mn/yul_brynner_new_york_city_psa_1978/	[ "Damn he was a pretty man", "He was a very symmetrical and aesthetically pleasing person, yes.\n\nAnd bald, so very very bald.", "Was he West World?", "Well shit, I had no idea he was Russian!", "I mean, a lot of these dudes change their names and shit 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣", "Fair enough, I guess I was too young when I watched his movies to figure it out and there was no Wikipedia then 😅", "He was in the 1973, “West World” movie.", "[\"Don't smoke.\"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNjunlWUJJI) \\- Yul Brynner", "Were you fooled by his cowboy accent in the Magnificent Seven?", "Maybe yeh 🤣", "Meanwhile Bangkok doesn't get anything from Yul Brynner." ]	10	videos	Yul Brynner - New York City PSA (1978)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXZIp87oISI	/r/videos/comments/qcizyw/there_is_a_british_amateur_orchestra_called_the/	[ "sign me up for viola pls", "I love this group! A bunch of absolute geniuses getting together for fun to play terrible music…", "Striving for mediocrity", "Echoes of the [Portsmouth Sinfonia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portsmouth_Sinfonia):\n\n>The Portsmouth Sinfonia was an English orchestra founded by a group of students at the Portsmouth School of Art in 1970. The Sinfonia was generally open to anyone and ended up drawing players who were either people without musical training or, if they were musicians, ones that chose to play an instrument that was entirely new to them.", "[Portsmouth Sinfonia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portsmouth_Sinfonia) \n \n >The Portsmouth Sinfonia was an English orchestra founded by a group of students at the Portsmouth School of Art in 1970. The Sinfonia was generally open to anyone and ended up drawing players who were either people without musical training or, if they were musicians, ones that chose to play an instrument that was entirely new to them. Among the founding members was one of their teachers, English composer Gavin Bryars. The orchestra started as a one-off, tongue-in-cheek performance art ensemble but became a cultural phenomenon over the following 10 years, with concerts, record albums, a film and a hit single.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "this is really sad. My city where I grew up had a wonderful orchestra which was dissolved due to funding. and these asshats get to make a mockery of Orchestras and get tons of backing.. pathetic, fuck them", "Reminds me of one of the most brilliant shows I ever went to in the Brighton Festival (UK). Was called \"Shit Faced Shakespeare\" where a different member of the cast would get hammered each night and the rest would carry on as much as possible. It was awesome both years I saw it \n\n\nThey had a twitter feed before the show so you could follow what they were drinking \n\n\nThe show would often get abandoned part way through as it had just devolved into drunk chaos.", "Who Rached your Maninovs?", "Leaving aside all the terrible takes you managed to cram into such a small post - lesson learned here is: People pay for what they think is interesting, not what YOU think is interesting.", "You think they're the worst orchestra in the world? Try [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izqWC4S3pUc)", "I knew i knew the name alexander mccall smith. He wrote The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency . Which went on to be I think an HBO show. Odd fact. He was born in Zimbabwe.", "I remember reading the blurb on their website. Said something along the lines of:\n\n\"We take the health of our actors very seriously. Therefore only one person gets drunk per show and all actors get sufficient time to recover between drunken performances. Ironically, this makes us one of the most sober acts of the West End.\"" ]	12	videos	There is a British amateur orchestra called "The Really Terrible Orchestra" and they enjoyed sold out shows where audience expect things to go wrong. A rocket scientist playing in it described the orchestra as the group that "rehearses the least" and spend the most time at the pub
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qcjcvs/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qcjcvs/deleted_by_user/	[ "They drove a taxi out of her mouth.", "are you criticizing? After all it is a movie about a giant radioactive lizard .", "I saw that spaceship land in the ocean", "Right it isn't that Bad, it is terrible.", "Dude right? I’ve always been to afraid to admit this. I saw this in theaters for my friends 10th birthday and it was freaking amazing. I left the theater shaking. \n\nI’m glad to hear I wasn’t the only one that liked it! Godzilla will always hold a special place in my heart.", "You know how bad it is, I was born in 1990 so I was around 9-10 when we rented the movie and watch it and even then I thought the movie was absolutely terrible. The plot is an incoherent mess, the effects are so bad, cheap-looking models, if you fail impress 10yo kid who loves every other action movie, then you failed at your job.", "It was a terrible Godzilla movie. And it would be a bad monster movie if Godzilla wasn't involved.\n\n1. It doesn't look like Godzilla. Instead, he looks like an iguana.\n2. Godzilla acts like a lizard and not like a monster that can think.\n3. The CGI holds up as well as toilet paper in a thunderstorm. \n4. They scare Godzilla off with their headlights, are crushed in Godzilla's mouth, then, as /u/superpj rightly points out, they drive the motherfucking taxi [out of Godzilla's mouth](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP7yIQladb0)." ]	7	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtube.com/watch?v=QbC6dLG_dQY&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/qcjdne/this_gave_me_a_sensible_chuckle/	[ "I guess that’s how they stay alive there. Keep goosestepping if that’s what you’ve got to do.", "Oh. Kim Jong-Loon will be coming for you!", "I can’t count how many times I’ve seen this, but it makes me laugh every time." ]	3	videos	This gave me a sensible chuckle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZDxuAtfcbo	/r/videos/comments/qcjuv4/just_pour_the_egg_on_the_tortilla_and_the_result/	[ "That was a very cinematic cooking video. It was really well shot.", "I wouldn’t make it like this but it was indeed a very well made video.", "The style is a little bit jarring lol but I think it makes for a nice change of pace from the more familiar style.", "I feel like I watched a 45 second long video somehow padded out to 4 minutes.", "So where the fuck did the grill marks come from. \n\nIt was in a non stick pan.\n\nDidn't season the dish at all.\n\nWay too long." ]	5	videos	Just pour the egg on the tortilla and the result will be amazing!
https://youtu.be/079LIBZrGkc	/r/videos/comments/qckhot/nintendo_sixtyfoooooooooour_2021_4k_remaster/	[ "I would hate to know I was shopping for one of them. No matter how go the gift was it'll never get this reaction.", "I don't think I've even been half that excitedly happy over anything. I wonder what that feels like.", "My favorite version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKEL4cUTOI4", "The mom looks like a lesbian. No complains though." ]	4	videos	Nintendo Sixty-FOOOOOOOOOOUR - "2021 4K Remaster"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV9Rl6d2Mys	/r/videos/comments/qcknh2/woman_predicts_the_pandemic_in_sept_2019/	[ "I mean, there was a whole federal pandemic team in 2016. But trump dismantled it.", "She makes some incredibly poor logical leaps, and arrives at untenable conclusions.\n\nPointing out the high statistical risk of a pandemic =/= creating a pandemic.\n\nPre-emptively forming a task force for mitigation isn't nefarious.\n\n\nThis illogical mess is hardly a cogent train of thoughts, let alone a prediction.", "“In this country” she sounds German, is she talking about Germany or the United States?", "Absurd", "Sounds about typical for @op", "You lost me at \"Cabin Talk\" LMMFAO", "Broken clocks and all that.", "Just know from the thumbnail that a whole bunch of crazy is about to erupt.", "\"Even a broken clock is right twice a day\" seems to fit this video.", "She wasn't just vaguely right though. She was right about multiple facets of exactly what's happening.", "She really wasn't though", "keep your eyes closed it's safe.", "get a life", "right back atcha", "sure thing", "Clown.", "redditor for 13 days, no posts, 1 comment." ]	20	videos	Woman predicts the pandemic in Sept 2019
https://youtu.be/N34vXgP3zcY?t=10	/r/videos/comments/qckqu2/wes_borland_of_limp_bizkit_playing_their_song/	[ "It would've been hilarious if they smashed his guitar", "lol just GIMME", "It's just one of those days....", "Wes is just so fucking cool by just being himself. The rest of Limp Bizkit (back in the heyday) looked like the dudes at the skate park while Wes is fitted up like an anime villain.", "Those black contacts man….", "Right?!", "like this? \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qAuPRlHurA", "His shrug of just “welp” lol", "I watched their lollapalooza gig on youtube where the front man was dressed as a old man. Which rocked. And then at the end he hands out t shirts in the crowd and runs into marc rebilet. They still rock.", "SUPER underrated guitarist.", "I remember listening to SOAD, Linkin Park, Slim Shady Era Eminem, and Limp Bizkit last week and it really made me miss this era of music. People clown on ~~rap rock~~ that era of music but god it just sounded so good to sheltered young me back in the day.", "It's pretty crazy how nu-metal is finding a scene again! Something about that kind of groove, hooks folks.", "Never thought I’d see limp bizkit come back like they have recently. It’s pretty cool", "Wes Borland: MONSTER guitar player, goddamned decent human. \n\n10/10 would recommend for human to alien ambassador.", "> was dressed as a old man\n\nI don't think he was kinda dressed as an old man, but rather he is an old man. dude is 51.\n\nWeird world we live in where Limp Bizkit is still going strong but Smash Mouth is down in the dumpster", "Smash Mouth guy ain't the sharpest tool in the shed.\n\nFred Durst packs a mother fuckin chainsaw... Arguably, the sharpest tool in the shed... Just saying", "Captain Disillusion can shred it", "I felt bad for the security guards trying to hold back people.", "He had a wig and was dressed up in a stereotypical older man attire. Im certain he doesn't dress like that in everyday life. Hence why I said dressed up. But yeah he's in his early 50s", "As someone who's in the same age group.. the LB fan base seems to be aging rapidly now..", "1996-2006 was some of the best music ever. I’ll fight anyone who disagrees.", "Probably because Deftones and Rage Against the Machine had already been around since the early 90s and were better. SOAD and Eminem don't belong in the same category as Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit.\n\nEdit: Lmao at downvotes. There is nothing \"Rap Rock\" about SOAD or Eminem.", "That's correct, because System of a Down is far superior to all those other bands mentioned.", "I like Rage better but SOAD is sweet.", "I listed those musicians because they were on heavy rotation back when I was a kid.", "The Black Parade, American Idiot, and Hybrid Theory were the foundation of my childhood music taste.", "Still regularly listen to the American Idiot album.", "Jesus of Suburbia still speaks to me.", "I don’t think he’d be caught at such a vigorously energetic sausage party.", "r/killthecameraman", ">People clown on rap rock but god it just sounds so good.\n\nPersonally, I really think Limp Bizkit's vocalist sounds annoying. Wes is really cool. Seems like a good guitarist and a god-tier performer. \n\nThose other bands you listed are fine. I wouldn't call SOAD \"rap rock\" though, that band defied genres and took a bit of everything from the underground rock scene (Punk, Metal, Alternative) and created their own sound.", "I'm just lumping SOAD in with Limp and Linkin since those were the bands I heavily listened to them as a kid.", "Pop Sux tour. Korn, limp Bizkit, slipknot, Ozzie osbourne and Metallica. Shit was lit.", "RATM is really such a blaring example of a band who I think gets a lot more fame because of their message rather than necessarily their music, even though obviously their music is top notch. \n\nSOAD was the same energy, in terms of message/lyrics, but they were a bit more... esoteric? Sometimes, in their message. They also played into the \"offensive lyrics cause controversy which sells stuff and makes kids think we're edgy\" thing, especially in their later albums (Cigaro being the best example lol). \n\nSOAD also just displayed a FUCKTON of music depth and disparity in their 5 releases. Their first three, especially, are one of the best trilogies in rock music, IMO.", ">but Smash Mouth\n\nThis is the point in rock music where the drugs and drinking really catch up, and you begin to see who can actually manage the lifestyle of being constantly traveling and being basically a professional party thrower for a living.\n\nLimp Bizkit, for what its worth, appear like a pretty professional act, if you know what I mean. This is a job, they understand how to make money in the industry, how to cause controversy without making their brand toxic, and how to put on a good fucking show. I fucking hate their music but actually I gotta admit its catchy and they have tones of charisma and must be absolutely excellent performers.\n\nBut yeah, don't do too many drugs kids, you might end up getting canceled cuz you sig heiled during a Z tier performance at a shitty venue.", "Surely he's not typical venue security, he's probably one of Limp Bizkit's roadies and does this every show. Probably enjoys it, tbh.", "I find it amusing that the song \"Break Stuff\" ended up being the final nail in the coffin for the Woodstock music festival.\n\nI also find it amusing nobody talks about it.", "> The rest of Limp Bizkit (back in the heyday) looked like the dudes at the skate park while Wes is fitted up like an anime villain\n\nI always liked [this image](https://www.todorock.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/limp-bizkit.jpg) where Fred, John, Sam and Lethal are all looking like cool and Wes just there looking FABOULOUS", "People really hated on Limp for a long time mostly because other bands didn't like their music style and tried to turn their fans against Fred Durst. But there should be a space for everyone in music, even bands you don't like. I actually take Fred durst's side against alot of the assholes in bands who tried to shit on him. Just because he wasn't making music that capitulated to their view of what rock music should be, they all spit on him and acted like elitists. From what I hear, Fred is actually a really nice person who's just had to dealt with alot of toxicity in the industry and I feel bad for the guy.", "Even better, Summer Sanitarium. Mudvayne, Deftones, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, and Metallica.", "Honestly, people seemed pretty cool from that video. They were giving him room, they weren't trying to grab him or the guitar, it seems like the security being there, arms out, was more than enough to get people to be cool about what's happening and don't ruin it for everyone.", "You ever listen to [American Edit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Edit)? It's a guilty pleasure of mine.", "They should have poop faced??", "> But yeah, don't do too many drugs kids, you might end up getting canceled cuz you sig heiled during a Z tier performance at a shitty venue.\n\nThere isn't a drug out there which will make you sign heil because you did it, unless you were already sitting there just barely holding back from doing that already. Drugs don't make things things happen, they make you lose your inhibitions from showing that side of you in public.", "Pretty sure that’s the dude from RossCreations behind the Limp dude?", "Well, he was promoting their new single (Dad Vibes)...so that was part of the act.", "Oh, I know. But one of my pet peeves is people who associate SOAD with Nu Metal (because Rick Rubin produced their music) or Rap Rock. Because they never sounded anything like that. Their first album is basically a punk/metal album, and their later works included more alternative elements, but they were never really influenced by hip hop or funk or anything like that the way \"real\" nu metal bands where. \n\nSorry, my music nerd rant is done now.", "I love that one song by Limp Bizkit where they say the name of their band.", "I don't fight people with disabilities.", "Yeah, I know there are lots of bands that take a long hiatus and come back but I really never through Limp Bizkit would be one of them. Seemed to me that Fred Durst had completely checked out some years ago. And that the rest of the band, especially Wes Borland, would want nothing to do with reforming Limp Bizkit.\n\nBut, here we are.", "Make and exception in this case. The only good music happening in that time frame was punk rock, and that's not what we are talking about .", "Lol okay.\n\nNot with RATM in the conversation, not even close. RATM has albums with no skippable songs. SOAD has a few good songs across many albums. Not even close.", "I was a Limp Bizkit fan when I was 15 but now that video (honestly) gives me the kind of cringe that literally brings a tear to my eye in secondhand embarrassment. I say not at all as disrespect to what they're doing. I'm just pointing out that it's not for me anymore. If that is your favourite artform, then hey, I have no problem with that!", "> I think gets a lot more fame because of their message rather than necessarily their music\n\nYou won't find a musician or guitar player saying that. You can hear RATM's sound in a LOT of modern stuff, and nothing before them sounded like that.\n\nPeople who don't know anything about music probably think this, yes.", "No love for Audioslave? That shit was my breakfast", "Yeah definitely fuck these guys.", "Once, I went to Ozzfest and saw the Limp Bizkit set. The lead singer, Mr. Biscuit, came into the audience and I poked him with my finger.", "Check out Wes's other project, Black Light Burns. I really dig their music.", "Steve went through a lot of shit with his kid dying from leukemia, it sucks to see him like that and it's sad they're basically looked at as just a meme band. The first 2 Smash Mouth albums (I mean East Bay Sessions and Fush Yu Mang) are beasts. They're punk/ska/rock and still hold up af, Padrino has one of my all time favorite guitar parts. It's a shame they abandoned that sound and became the Shrek/meme band they're known as now.", "My very first mosh pit was to this song at the Limp Bizkit show at the International Ballroom in Atlanta in August of 99 (I went to a Halloween party that year dressed as Wes Borland, makeup and all lol). Staind was the opener. The show was an absolute banger. You can say what you will about Limp Bizkit's style, nu metal in general or whatever, but their shows absolutely kicked ass. Glad to see they've still got it.", "Last time I saw this many white males was during the insurrection.", "Dad Vibes! \n\nMore than appropriate title for a new song for all of us that listened to them back in the day and are now over 40.", "This is a better example of why you shouldn’t do drugs kids…\n\n>>There isn't a drug out there which will make you sign heil because you did it, unless you were already sitting there just barely holding back from doing that already. Drugs don't make things things happen, they make you lose your inhibitions from showing that side of you in public.", "I am 41 years old, and grew up in Jacksonville FL. I will always love Limp Bizkit, I dont care what kind of hate they get. My lawn mowing song list starts with Just Like This and the intro to that song will never not slap.", "Totally agree! Fush Yu Mang is a great album. People give me shit when they hear I like Smash Mouth but they just think that means I listen to the Shrek ST lol. They had a good sound early on with some gems scattered here and there later on.", "A frigging legend!", "I remember Durst showing up in an episode of House M.D. It was the weirdest fucking thing man.", "Nope never heard of that, I'll give it a go.", "That last sentence is the best thing I’ve seen on reddit", "Deftones white pony album wants you to reconsider that statement.", "That hardly looks like a mosh pit.", "\"You eat shit for breakfast?\"", "When I first heard Limp Bizkit in 2000, I was a boy in 8th grade. \n\nNow, I'm a 33 year old woman and parent to a 4 year old. Time goes far, far, far.", "The mission impossible song?", ">It's pretty crazy how nu-metal is finding a scene again\n\n\\~25 years is right on the nostalgia timeline. i expect mumble rap to make a comeback \\~2040", "Wes Borland is much too good to be in Limp Bizkit. This world surely is in the wrong timeline.", "Similar story. Was at Ozzfest in 98. Fred came into the audience during a song. He was going up and down aisles and then proceeded to come through our row. I patted his back as he walked by.", ">But yeah, don't do too many drugs kids, you might end up getting canceled cuz you sig heiled during a Z tier performance at a shitty venue.\n\nKeith Richards would like a word.", "^^...please, ^^no", "I first saw them open for Faith No More in 1997.\n\nThen I saw them headline with Staind as an opener sometime after that, at a small venue.\n\nLast time I saw them was Woodstock 99, which was a damn train wreck.\n\nI can't call myself a fan though -- I dug them for a short period, and after their second album I lost interest.", "Gosh that crowd.", "Ok, that was incredible", ">how to cause controversy without making their brand toxic\n\n... /s", "Wait, what?", "Exactly. You won't find stories of Fred being a dick to fans or beating up women. There are waaaaay worse people in the industry who are more loved than Fred. When you break down his heinous reputaion it turns out his crime is being a cocky frontman. How exactly do people think bands succeed?", "Epic guitar riff in 3, 2, 1... /r/killthecameraman", "Was hoping this thread would continue down til we eventually get to someone who like forehead kissed Travis barker or something iunno", "Man you can say what you want about Limp Bizkit as a band, but they have ALWAYS been able to put on one hell of a show.\n\nThey know how to get the crowd riled up and know how to make it special for the fans. And being able to still do this is just fucking icing on the cake. I will never skip a show if I can help it.", "I’m going to be pedantic and say there was nothing even remotely “moshy” about that pit. There was no floor-punching or windmills.", ">alot of toxicity\n\nDude singing about randomly punching people lol", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifNEgwGACEQ", "Apparently he disagreed with you since he left then came back.", "It's for entertainment, dude, if you can't separate a song from actual reality, you probably don't have much credibility on the topic. Shit is just meant as a mosh pit banger.", "I mean they appear as successful as ever. As much as I dislike that kind of music...", "Tom is one of the most innovative guitarists out there and he's been using the same pedal setup for 20 years.", "That was pimp shit", "Sickkk!", "> Personally, I really think Limp Bizkit's vocalist sounds annoying\n\nYeah this is my issue with LB too... Music is great, vocals not so much. Like a pre teen boy trying to sing tough", "I remember wishing Metallica wasn't part of that tour so that I could actually afford it.", "At the height of Limp Bizkit he was in another band called Big Dumb Face that has a Ween/Mr Bungle vibe if you've never checked them out", "I'm 100% sure everyone else has said this before but I'll say it again. System of a Down and Rage Against the Machine would be perfect right now.\n\nSOAD released two bangers recently about what's going on in Artsakh and they haven't lost a beat imo.", "Keith and Ozzy are the exception to the rule, by all accounts. You're much more likely to just end up a drug addict.", "Wes Borland was the best part of LimpBizkit, including the rest of the band, and the fans.", "Just reading the band name and all I can think about it a screechy, whiney \"*yeeeuhhhh\"", "I like that whoever is filming was so into the song that they stopped filming Wes when things got bangin'", "Check out Tallah, absolutely amazing band.", "I wish someone could explain to me the appeal of mumble rap. To me it goes against everything rap is about. But the middle school kids I teach love that shit", "Wes is the only saving grace of the band.", "It's hard to see him as a bartender, but at the same time... not.", "Good news, RATM is hitting the road in 2022. They were going to start earlier but decided to push it back due to Covid.", "I bought tickets the morning of the Minneapolis show. Drove 3 1/2 hours to get there only to find out we had missed Linkin Park. Never did get to see them...", "What's that grandpa?", "this is the way", "Limp Bizkit is garbage.", ">To me it goes against everything rap is about. \n\nThere's your answer. Rap is old now, kids want to go against the old for a new sound.", "Really this. It was super stressful watching it all go down, and then the crowd gets nuts and everything kinda disappears. I can't imagine how they felt just checking each others backs constantly scanning the little area around them, completely surrounded by hyped up people.", "It’s crazy too because as a young teen/preteen during the age of nu metal, I loved ALL of it. Korn, limp bizkit, orgy, slipknot, cold…I didn’t understand why you had to pick sides.", "I think it's funny that Keith and Ozzy were legit the only two that came to mind when I read your comment.\n\nAt any rate, I agree. There are countless stories that include musicians that have died from drug use.", "First 3 albums for me. Significant Other was great, and Chocolate Starfish was mostly good except for those 2 radio songs which I loathed. My Generation was one of those, ugh, what crap. But the rest of the album was pretty good. All their stuff after was terrible. That soft album, the rage copy album, and the reboot album were all pretty cringe.", "Is that what we’re calling your moms bedroom now?", "Mr. Biscuit x D", "Wholesome groupies", "Oh my god. I had completely forgotten about this. Thank you", ">if you can't separate a song from actual reality, you probably don't have much credibility on the topic\n\nArt is human expression.\n\nThis one's about punching people.\n\n>Shit is just meant as a mosh pit banger.\n\nYeah mate - I get it. It's an outlet of frustration and a feeling of freeing your body in to a communal physical rhythmic... Thing. The build and the bass and the banging. I get it. \n\nBut it's also a song about punching people.\n\nJust funny seeing people so many years later paint it all like Fred Durst wasn't an absolute wanker of the era. \n\n>you probably don't have much credibility on the topic\n\nEnglish? Or... Being in moshes?", "One of the dopest intros of all time", "He's the durst", "Cool outreach for the fans, but I would have though that could have been quite risky in terms of causing a stampede in the crowd. It's not like people haven't died in concerts before from being pushed too hard by the masses.", "> I don't think he was kinda dressed as an old man\n\nHe was wearing a wig as part of the outfit. Definitely was playing it up.", "this is the second youtube video ive found that doesnt have sound. other videos on youtube work fine. anyone know what the issue is?\n\nedit: the issue is only occurs when using firefox", "1996 -2001 Midwest Emo... You're correct.", "Is there a spotify playlist you or someone could recommend to take me down that vicious but exciting tumble down memory lane?", "Wes is SO awesome!!", ">they appear as successful as ever\n\nCrowd of \n\n- Males\n\n- White\n\n- Angry\n\n- Baseball caps\n\nI mean I guess?\n\nWe haven't got to update the bingo cards from the 00s I guess?\n\nWhere are the fans to scream me down for being a \"pussy faggot bitch\"? I'm going for the win tonight ladies.", "Literally every musician in that band is too good to be in that band. That's what makes it good!", "Their style was straight 🔥 back then. I still like their 1st and 2nd cds. I always felt like such a badass with my cousin driving us into soccer games with Stuck starting with its low entry and then going bananas. That and the Faith rendition.", "Gotta love Wes Borland, wish he'd do more Black Light Burns.", "early mumble rap from the soundcloud era clicks for me when compared to early punk rock in the 70s. its birthed from a young, DIY, counter culture movement that's more about the feeling/energy of a song than its musicality. like when the first punk bands hit the scene, a lot of criticism was \"how is this music? they can't even play their instruments correctly. i don't get why the kids like this.\" then labels get involved and it gets packaged and commercialized.", "Do ya feel it?", "RATM was hugely influential, it’s amusing to think anyone would miss that. You can hear them all over the place.\n\nI’m just glad it was the incredible musical style that passed on and not the style of writing songs which could use a few more bars and a whole lot less repetition.", "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abVJLOPBnXU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abVJLOPBnXU)\n\nAlso, Ismo is a treasure", "I remember Big Dumb Face. I hated Limp Bizkit when I was younger, but always liked Wes. I always thought he was an incredible guitar player.", "Mr. Biscuit", "And there's video games about shooting stuff but do you go out shooting anyone? No? Why is that? Because you don't associate it with a necessity to enact fiction into actual reality. \n\n\nThere's movies and music and media about alot of shit, but nowhere does it say in the song to go out and do any of it. It's written for entertainment, not for you to be like \"oh he's probably so toxic\". \n\nWhat are you a boomer or something, you gonna go tell on him because he wrote a song about anger LOL\n\nYou gonna judge him as toxic because he wrote about an emotion that anyone in the world can feel in life?\n\nMy god how cringe. \n\n\n>English?\n\nSeriously? Lol you don't know what the word credibility means? Hahaha edit: lol and you even edited your comment to cover your tracks when it originally only said \"English?\". \n\nHonestly not surprising.", "What, the insurrection? Sure if my mother's bed is the capital and the white males are Trump loving rednecks who are afraid that their white privilege is in danger. Also, Limpbiscuit sucks. Thats right I wrote buscuit. Get out of here with your shitty jokes, shittybusinessbill.\n\nEdit: For those of you who disagree with my assertion that limpbuscuit sucks as a band lets look at some of their lyrics shall we?\n\n\"Nobody loves me, nobody cares \nNobody loves me, nobody owes me a thing \nNobody loves me, nobody cares \nNobody loves me, maybe I’ll go eat worms\"\n\n&#x200B;\n\n\"I did it all for the nookie, c’mon \nThe nookie, c’mon, \nSo you can take that cookie \nAnd stick it up your… yeah!\"\n\n&#x200B;\n\n\"Move in, now move out \nHands up, now hands down \nBack up, back up. \nTell me what cha\\` gonna do now.\"", "I was looking at the faces surrounding Wes and thinking, \"damn, all these guys are gonna wake up with sore backs tomorrow\".", "I mean a very quick google search shows that Wes Borland is worth around 10 million dollars. Limp Bizkit has 8 million+ monthly listeners on spotify. They are playing at big rock festivals and touring across America. \n\nYou don't have to have a diverse audience to be successful, just an audience.", "That's his evil twin", "Look how old the fans are lol. My people.", "I've had tickets for Rage Against the Machine and Run the Jewels for a couple years now. Been postponed twice. Can't fuckin wait.", "To be fair it was r/praisethecameraman before the beat dropped", "That was my first concert! I remember that Deftones was just about to come on stage, then someone in the band got hurt and had to go to the hospital. Linkin Park went on way early because of it.", "Fuck yeah. Hope I get to see them in Sweden.", "When I was in a local band, it was always fun to step off the stage while playing and bounce around the pit for a minute. Even walked outside a couple times to play for the smokers haha", "Went to the first 'new' Limp Bizkit show at the Metro in July where Fred debuted his \"Dad Vibes\" theme... they still rocked hard! I thought it was a one night thing, until he sported an even more Dad style at Lolla two days later. \n\nEach time Wes wore some crazy shit too as expected, even showed off some thigh cleavage haha.", "Hell yeah I had SOAD tickets here in Sweden. It's rarer to get them out of the US :D Can't wait 'til it's back on.", "Outkast was crushing it during that period", "Bruh there was a whole [documentary](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodstock_99:_Peace,_Love,_and_Rage) about it", "[Woodstock 99: Peace, Love, and Rage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodstock_99:_Peace,_Love,_and_Rage)* \n \n >Woodstock 99: Peace, Love, and Rage is a 2021 documentary film about the music festival Woodstock '99. The film features interviews in which the concert promoters, workers, performers, and attendees share their experiences of the infamous 3-day festival that was marred by intense heat, overpricing, violence, sexual assault, looting, vandalism, and fires. Woodstock 99: Peace, Love, and Rage premiered on July 23, 2021 (the 22nd anniversary of the concert's first day), on HBO and HBO Max. It is the first film of the six-part documentary series Music Box.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "There's a youtuber I watch a lot who jokingly describes this entire era of \"hard rock music\" as a bunch of guys pretending to \"be crazy, and might snap at any time!\" Music from this era was filled with that kind of \"tough guy\" attitude. I was listening to Disturbed's Down with the Sickness and that is like... literally the lyrical theme of the first six songs on that album, to one degree or another.", "Not a fan of the band, but that was awesome. Here's The National's [Matt Berninger](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8QOt_XoYP4) doing his mingling with people while screaming into a mic thing. I miss live music.", "Exactly. Wes is a really good musician, but he also knows that playing shitty Nu Metal riffs while Durst cosplays a asshole bro-dad makes them way more money than anything else they could be doing.", "I'm sure he doesn't mind the money that being in a band that's had 40 million global album sales brings him. There's many worse timelines than being in a timeline where you end up in a popular band that a lot of people don't care for. \n\nFor example, there's probably a timeline where he decided to go to clown school instead to pursue his love of face makeup and is now head of the juggalo fan club.", "Is it the white facepaint that's making him look 7 ft tall? Google says he's 6'1\"", "Doesn’t he have like crippling anxiety? Or was that all bullshit?", "Wes is the fucking man. Super intelligent and thoughtful behind the makeup, and really self aware about Limp Bizkit. Also an incredible guitar player", "Had his own band \"Black Light Burns\" \n\n\n\"Lie\" is probably their best track.", "Fuck chump bizcuit", "I have not heard this is forever, thank you for reminding sing me of this insanity.", "I listened to similar bands in my youth but something odd happened; I kept hunting down heavier and faster stuff. Now here I am swooning over Archspire's \"Drone Corpse Aviator.\" Over the years I somehow slowly went from Linkin Park to technical death metal.", "Limp Bizkit has always been a punchline for me when it comes to music, but Wes Borland plays a big part in why I mostly do it with love. You can’t deny his raw talent, and you definitely can’t ignore both his and Fred’s ability to command a crowd. There is a reason they were as big as they were, and shit like this plays a big part in it. I would have lost my mind if I was there live and I’m not even a huge fan. Cool as fuck.", "yoooo stuck is low key possibly the best song of theirs", "It really, really depends on like... crowd size and like, also the culture of the fans tbh. Regardless, this seems like something Limp Bizkit and their crew have practiced, because yeah, its kinda crazy seeing big bands throw a guy into the crowd like that and pulling it off without causing all kinds of chaos AND sounding like shit.", "I mean it's just uber angsty teen music sung by grown men. There's not really anything redeeming about it besides the nostalgia", "He was literally dressed as an old man the fuck you on about", "I still love Fush Yu Mang. What a great album", "It’s really what made me a fan overnight. And I agree, that was their breakout masterpiece to me.", "Praise the cameram...ah fucking hell", "He also has Big Dumb Face, more of an experiment than a band but then again that's just Wes being Wes.", "That's not a mosh pit", "Iggy Pop has entered the chat", "You may like Black Light Burns, which is Borland’s other band where he sings and plays lead guitar. \n\nSounds more like Bush + NIN almost. Either way it’s a closer representation to how Borland looks in lb \n\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HgDkQmsWgp8", "Some people just remember songs like Nookie and what not. Hog Dog Flavored water had some amazing songs on it like \"The One\" and \"Boiler\"\n\nBeing a 40 year old guy going through some rough relationship times, those songs have been on heavy rotation lately.", "1995 - 2002\n\nThe arrival of Scandavian Death Metal, and Gothenburg Melodic Death Metal.\n\nIn Flames, At The Gates, Opeth, Dark Tranquillity, Children of Bodom, Amon Amarth, Arch Enemy, and Soilwork all release their breakthrough records during this time.\n\nEdit: adjusted date range for accuracy. \n\nIf you're unfamiliar with these bands during this era, and enjoy heavy music even a little, this is like recommending you listen to The Beatles. This is where all of today's metal comes from.", "Watching Wes walk out on stage was always the best. Wondering what crazy getup he would be wearing. I would spend the entire show just watching him.", "I saw them waaaay back in 97 in Tink's nightclub in Scranton, PA. Before the show, everyone was lined up around the block with their tickets waiting to get in. Wes went to the local cornerstore that's known for its oldschool popcorn machine. He bought two giant boxes of like 40 bags each and walked down the entire line handing them out to people. Super cool guy. Chatted with everyone, shook hands, took pictures (on actual cameras!), and yes, he did all of it while wearing his trademark skeleton outfit.\n\nMeanwhile, Fred Dickhead Durst was signing autographs, but only girls' tits, refusing to sign anything else. He was a huge douchebag well before they were famous.", "I don't even really get much out of the nostalgia. Yes, I liked it quite a bit back then, but now it just seems like exactly what you said: angsty, trite bullshit. I was angry a lot back then, so it made some amount of sense at the time. Although even that doesn't really cover all of it, as there is other, aggressive music from that era that I can still listen to and enjoy. LB just seems like they were just a rap-rock gimmick with zero substance.", "I guess money talks.", "That's his little brother, Lieutenant Nihilism.", "Ah yes the pop punk/ska timeline", "Are you like... 14 or something?", "Nu Metal will forever be part of my jam even if it dates me. Fuck the haters. That shit sounded amazing next to the pop and other genres at the time.", "r/murderthecameraman", "Hell yeah, brother.", "Hell yeah", "Its the 'anti-establishment' of rap. Rap as a genre is old af now and people are starting to try new things that go against the genre. Some of those will suck, but some of those will be good. Just depends on personal taste at this point since literally anything will find its audience now and studios don't control what survives/lives beyond 'demos'.", "Can we take a moment and appreciate that this person filmed in landscape, in the middle of a mosh pit. Props to you my friend.", "Yes I am 14. I'm totally 14.", "Family Values Tour '98 was pretty fucking awesome for 18 year old me. Korn, Rammstein, Ice Cube, Limp Bizkit, and Orgy.", "I was gonna say the opposite. I saw them during their reunion tour, and they played Bulls on Parade, and he only played quarter notes during most of the solo. If you can't play a song, don't play the song.", "Pre-American Idiot Green Day was far better, imo.", "I saw Limp Bizkit in 99 and the warm up acts were Methodman/Redman and System of a Down. One of the best shows I've ever been to.", "He's the only reason anybody has ever heard of Fred Durst. I hope and suspect Fred knows that", "Yep, John Otto and Sam Rivers were jazz trained on drums and bass guitar if I remember correctly. Immensely talented musicians who get a bad rep for being part of the nu metal fad.", "I cant remember ever hearing anything bad about any of the members. And from everyone who has seen them live has loved them, even the ones who went in for the meme factor.", "Who says Wes isn't an alien ambassador to humans?", "Money is virtually the only thing that does \"talk\".", "As a white dude, I can't help but notice the clear consistency of the audience demographic. Usually not a great combo with the aggro nu metal. Didn't work out well for Woodstock 99.", "It was only $80 USD. That's super cheap compared to today's prices.", "Hell by the middle of the video the security is joined by fans in an arm lock ring just vibing. \n\nDefinitely smart to bring them, though. Not for safety but simply to make sure there's space for a guitar.", "Scared of a good challenge?", "BORTLES!!", "Also, Tool was on a roll, they released an entire 3 albums in that time span.", "Did he feel extra.... limpy?", "Even Astro Lounge and their self-titled third album, although they updated their sound, still are really solid and have a bunch of great songs beyond the stuff they had that got overplayed in movies and shit. Everything went off the rails after that.", "Dookie forever, baby!", "The sight of multiple shoes being held up at the same time never gets old for me.", "Not the worst Durst.", "Linkin Park did amazing. Sorry you missed it. There's a Linkin Park: Live in Texas cd/DVD combo that has the same show.", "Fuckin ballzy move", "That was my first time seeing Deftones live. I was impressed at the sound, less impressed with the show.", "Kinsten Durst", "YEP! Exactly why we missed them. So fucking bummed. Security guard told us when we got there about the whole thing. Linkin Park had finished up like 5 minutes prior.", "Oh you best believe I wore that out watching/listening to it lol.", "JoJo: The Stand User could be anyone!\n\nWes: Sup.", "Capitalism, my dude. It started selling, it got pushed into the mainstream hard and fast for more cash, which made the shit even shittier, copycats jumped on the bandwagon with various but similar schticks (face tats, skittle teeth, designer drugs, etc). I'd be a little more tolerant for the genre as a whole if it actually had some talent attached to it, but literally none of the \"artists\" I've been introduced to have any sort of musical talent, but they can ham up whatever their angle is for social media.", "Seconding! If you like Wes PLEASE listen to Black Light Burns. Cruel Melody and The Moment You Realize You're Going to Fall are fantastic albums.", "While watching this I was just wondering 'those people do realize it's limp bizkit playing right? Maybe they were too drunk/high to realize they werent at a concert of a good band. It was limp bizkit. Also their band name is limp bizkit.'", "That was the first real concert I went to. Fred Durst got hit in the face with a shoe! It was dope!", "This could work to their advantage. I would pay lots of money to see them perform Three Dollar Bill, Y'all in it's entirety.", "Insurrection talk aside, yeah limp bizkit are fucking awful. Always were", "what a fucking pretentious take, the riffs he brings to their songs are god like", "I dislike nu metal with a passion. Sorry.", "Cool. Cause you totally act like it.", "I thought it was Anakin Skywalker from the end of ROTJ.", "Was it a wig?", "I was gonna say, Astro Lounge is legitimately very good, even today.", "My all time favorite song from Limp Bizkit is a the cover of a George Michael song. Absolutely killed it.", "This guy just discovered that trans people exist lol.", "Fred Durst may not be a musical prodigy, but he put on a good show", "Cool shot, building up building up. aaaaaaaaaand HERE'S THE SKY", "I've rarely been in an unfriendly pit. \n\nThere are certain bands whose fans can get a little too intense, (The Acacia Strain pit was borderline violent) but almost always you can be assured that you're surrounded by people who will happily carry someone out of the pit if something happens to them. It's generally been one of the happiest blobs of humanity I've been in.", "Fark. Shitting myself at being stuck in that crowd. I love this song. But fuck me. Medium sized female; I would not survive this song’s mosh lol", "Could be a number of things, are you on Windows 10? Check the link below, might apply to you.\n\nhttps://support.mozilla.org/bm/questions/1155695", "You may as well ask why any new genre of music has any appeal. \n\nFlappers in the 20s and their wild and rawkus music had it's detractors. So did rock and roll, metal, early rap, current rap, etc. This is nothing new. \n\nWhat is new, is you're getting old. 😃", "3 Dollar Bills will always be my favorite", "They have a new(ish) track called Bring it Back. The intro to that song is hype as fuck. But then when Fred starts rapping I'm out lol. But I could listen to the first 30 seconds of that track on repeat for a whole workout.", "He looks like Mike Pence halfway through applying blackface.", "Big Dumb Face fucking rocked.", "I think Wes is perfect for LB. He writes extremely simple, catchy riffs that anyone can enjoy, just like Fred’s lyrics.", "Mosh pits are a lot calmer than they used to be.", "all hail Duke Lion", "Holy shit bro I was at that show! 🙌🏻", "But are they making new music ?\n\nDon't get me wrong I love their stuff but I would love to hear some modern rage.", "Eat You Alive and N2Gether Now are still on my regular rotation, regardless of the shit my best mate gives me for it. I forgot about Boiler though, looks like I'm having another '00s binge tonight, cheers for that!", "And don’t forget Duke Lion.", "pretty weird to gatekeep it like that, first of all you're implying rap rock is somehow a bad thing to be, and secondly SOAD often has spoken word or rap like lyrics in their songs.", "Haha what a great show at a shit venue. No air conditioning, it was like 120 degrees in there. As the upside, I had never seen so many topless women in my life.", "I almost choked to death laughing at this comment, thank you.", "Dear god, what age are you, 10?", "There are rumors that this current tour could spur a new album but there is nothing official stating that. \n\nThe only albums they're released recently are archived concert sets.", "Dude it was brutal in there. \n\n\n“Hey let’s have a metal show….\n\n\n(•_•)\n\n( •_•)>⌐ ■-■\n\n(⌐ ■_■)\n\n\n….in an oven.”", "It's coming back. I picked up Ocean Grove's album Flip Phone as someone had said it was post hardcore, and I love that genre. I got to the end of the second track and said \"this isn't post hardcore, it's post nu metal\". I loved it.", "Showing my age, but I attended the Monsters of Rock tour in 1987 and I believe tickets were around $40.\n\nLineup was Kingdom Come, Metallica, Dokken, Scorpions, and Van Halen. In that order.", "I see limp bizkit's PR team is working overtime", "The appeal isn't really something I could explain, and like other genres a lot of it is garbage, but there is still social commentary and artistry in it. not quite as overt as it is in \"real\" rap, generally, but it's there", "If he like limp Bizkit... probably", "Yeah I was really looking forward to seeing SOAD at Download this year and it got cancelled. I know Serj cant really hit those growls anymore so some of the key songs don't pack the same punch, and none of them are off their tits like they were in the 90's but it'd still be a good show. I saw them during the Hypnotize/Mesmerize tour and it was great", "Yes the man has been bald for years lol. Hence the backwards hat.", "I saw a YT vid of them doing their latest two songs live. One of the songs sounded really off live but someone wrote that Serj recently had a back surgery and I bet that shit can really fuck you up as a singer.\n\nI'd pay to just watch Daron be weird and glare at the audience and screams \"shit\" here and there.", "Lmao that dude with the hood looks like a baby with a goatee.", "I don't like Limp Bizkit, but this was fucking cool", "I saw Limp Bizkit with Metallica and Linkin Park before Chester passed in Atlanta. Still the greatest show Ive been too, the showmanship and performance Limp Bizkit did was next level.", "At the Seattle venue, they didn't start letting people in until Mudvayne started playing. There was almost a riot outside.", "I seriously thought that was Dr Faucci at first glance", "This was my first concert, I was in middle school lol. Hope to be as cool as my parents one day", "He's not judging your English, he's asking if you're being an idiot about his credibility because he is English. It's ok to like Fred Durst if you want to, man, but to pretend he is some beacon of human wholesomeness is pretty silly. It's also pretty silly to unironically use the sentence \"My god how cringe.\" If it wasn't written with so much heart I would assume that your entire comment was a meta joke about your username.", "Not sure if I’d call that a mosh pit. I think the Bronx does that better. \n\nhttps://youtu.be/WGfgbxVUcbw", "While it’s disappointing the video tracking fell off at the drop, I’m happy for the person recording that they still got to live the moment", "Edgelord", "I'm not a fan of Limp Bizkit or anything, but dude looks like a great guitarist who's really into the music and experience.", "Sick! I'll check it out!! Thanks for the recommendation!", "Wait, have they made a comeback? I still don't understand why all of society just up and forgot they ever existed.", "Beyond shitty videographer", "Idk about his guitar skills (really, I don't know shit about guitar) but I always considered him the talent of LB. His side projects were always little underrated and never took off.", "If a good person is getting paid and having fun doing it, I'm not sure it is a bad timeline.", "When everyone in them is 45 there's a lot less activity.", "Even more weird than the movie where Durst was the lead actor?", "I got elbowed in the head by Sid Wilson. Was awesome.", "Saw Rancid last week. Those dudes are like 56 years old.\n\nThey sounded fucking amazing. Tim Armstrong might be immortal. TBD.", "Donchu put that evil on us goddamit", "Fuck windmills", "Sorry, what? I could understand you.", "Agree, the whole Three Dollar Bill Y'all album was a very fresh sound when it came out, with his super low-tuned heavy strings, and just weird melodies, that's the only way I can describe it. I was 11 or so when that album came out, so it was right in my wheelhouse, and I grew up just loving Wes, and I'm glad, now that I'm in my 30s, I can still say that he was a talented and experimental guitarist. You don't need to shred progressive scales to be a great guitarist, and I think playing simpler yet more creative songs is more impressive.", "Are you suggesting Mighty Penis Laser wasn't a timeless ballad?", "My first concert", "I'm not at all comparing these two bands, but people despised David Lee Roth for basically the same reason.", "“When your custom character is in a cutscene”", "Windmills and throwing punches should stay out of the pit. Nobody needs that shite.", "Not a fan of their stuff, but this is awesome.", "I think its also because they were notoriously HYPE AF and would churn a crowd like nobody's business.", "Just cranked it yesterday, and it's such a tune. And everyone hates Fred, but Fred brought so much to that first album. Obviously, by Chocolate Starfish, he was just playing a role.", "This song is like the 5 year old tantrum anthem.", "In MY day...", "It never died in Las Vegas music scene. Friends band has been playing shows with that style for 20 years and they still going.", "Didn't he study art? He'd probably do that in some capacity instead of music, if it hadn't panned out. The hand-drawn LB album covers were made by him.", "Yeah, and apparently he didn't get along with Fred Durst. I remember an interview in the early days where he was asked about the makeup, contacts, costumes, etc and he said he did it to mask himself to distance who he was as a person vs his on stage persona because he didn't enjoy being in Limp Bizkit. Or something like that. Wish I could find it, but it must be too old. Found plenty suggesting he's still feuding with Fred Durst though.", "what if we expanded that to include a few years earlier? rage's first album came out in 92.", "It's not \"late 90s\" nu metal, but it pulls elements from that era to make up that album.", "I just spit my drink all over my desk, thanks hahaha. Fuck me, I can't unsee this now.", "I'm pretty sure Wes is the Stand.", "Developer wishing he could play his own game", "Duke Lion ftw.", "He's so talented.", "> Seemed to me that Fred Durst had completely checked out some years ago.\n\nWell, he had to play a bartender in House for some reason", "Ive always considered him more of an entertainer, and he leaves me entertained.", "Holy shit that is a getup though. Really well done.", "Are my views of this band really that extreme? Is this the limpbiscuit subreddit? If it was then yes Id agree that I was being extreme.\n\nWhat Im wondering is if my original comment is being downvoted to death because people dont agree that I should be bringing political facts into the r/videos subreddit, are they downvoting because they do not see the attack on the capital as an insucrrection or because they love this band and find my comparison insulting?", "See, I’m always getting that one mixed up with the other two brothers, General Apathy and Major Letdown", "That took some serious balls.", "Well I call your image and raise you a [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wes_Borland#/media/File:Limp_Bizkit_-_Festival_of_the_Lakes_-_7_15_2021_(51319169654).jpg)", "Interesting, had to look it up as im unaware of what happened at woodstock 99. https://www.theringer.com/2019/7/9/20687231/limp-bizkit-break-stuff-woodstock-99", "Saw them with summer sanitarium and then again with korn when they played a smaller venue tour, both times put on a great show", "i didnt see a mosh pit", "Not even joking, metalheads are some of the nicest people you'll come across despite the fact that we all look miserable and unapproachable. I've been to a lot of metal gigs and not once have I ever had a bad experience with pits or walls of death. Everyone is looking out for each other, especially if someone falls. I've made so many friends for the day just by helping people get up or catching them before the go down, or just randomly getting an arm around the shoulder and invited to head bang together.\n\nGo to a metal gig at least once if you can, you won't regret it", "Checked out, nice find. Weird to hear new music in this genre!", "N2Gether Now and Eat You Alive both don’t get nearly enough love. Hell yeah. And the video for Eat You Alive had Bill Paxton in it, and N2Gether Now had Pauly Shore playing a pizza guy.", "I mean, the are worse jobs than being in a successful band.", "Poor bodyguards lol", "I was making like $100 a week scrubbing pots after school. Ain't nobody got that kind of scratch!", "I saw them a couple of years ago too, they really put on a great show.", "watching this, I knew it DEFINITELY wasn't the US. They'd be fucking elbowing each other and shit, not politely jumping. I can only imagine how apeshit Limp Bizkit mosh pits were in their heyday - young fanbase, not polite enough to follow mosh etiquette, rowdy music.", "Noooooo", "The man couldn’t help but vibe when the beat dropped. I don’t blame him.", "Let's see someone write a song \"Shoot up dem schools\" and you argue how it's just artistic expression.", "Nice. Mine was Rockfest ~~'94~~ '96 with Candlebox. I forget who else was there.\n\nedit: I guess it must have been Rockfest '96 - Candlebox, Stabbing Westward, and Seven Mary Three", "Interesting that you get downvoted. TIL Redditors don't know what a mosh pit is.", "I just realized I'd love to hear a band with Wes Borland and John5 with Ryan Martinie on bass...\n\nI'm just curious what it would sound like because they are three very unorthodox musicians.", "Have they? Last I heard they totally fell off in popularity, I remember the buzz dying after that weird Hot Dog flavored water album. What a weird name. Their first album was fire though.", "Yeah the reason people don't write shoot up Dem schools is because it's not something anyone wants to artistically express. There's a difference between art and propaganda. What are you gonna argue that break stuff is propaganda that tells people what to do? Fucking boomer.", "Yeah seriously, there was never a moment in time that anything on American Idiot was cool. i remember right before the final episode of Seinfeld aired they did a half hour looking back at all these classic moments from the show and that ended with just a bunch of sad slow clips cut together while Green Day’s song Good Riddance (Time of Your Life) played. First of all, Green Day and Seinfeld don’t go together at fucking all, like that’s not a thing, and secondly, I remember so many random middle aged people crying at how sad that part was like it wa a funeral. Super surreal. \n\nanyways yeah, that was around when Green Day just stopped being cool anymore. They should just do drugs again and beat the shit out of Weezer or something. Weezer just needs that to happen at this point, too, then maybe both bands won’t suck as bad anymore.", "😂😂😂😂", "LEGEND!!!", "Aww. You tried so hard, and got so far!\n\nBut in the end it didn't even matter.\n\nBig sad.", "There's ALWAYS a windmill guy. Fuck that guy.", "Pretty Cool , Very Brave!", "Burgalveist absolutely slaps too... \"Oh lord bathe me in flame... ROAAAAAAAAR\"", "If you can't handle him at his Durst, you don't deserve him at his Fredst.", "What happened to that guy? Used to be on the front page of reddit every other day.", "That sounds awesome!", "Floor-punching. You’re not actually punching people, you’re punching toward … the floor.", "And his Mighty Penis Laser.", "> I'd pay to just watch Daron be weird and glare at the audience and screams \"shit\" here and there.\n\nHe doesnt really do that anymore either, i miss his phase where it looked like he was huffing paint thinner - he used to be properly mental", "If they keep postponing it might be performed by Walk the Jewels and Rage Against Those Damn Kids On My Lawn", "\"Make me look like one of those black and white cookies\"", "...NO!", "Are you mentioning when Red Hot Chilli peppers played \"Fire by Jimi Hendrixs\"?\n\nIts mentioned a number of times that the climax of destruction and rioting happened during Limp Bizkits set.\n\nWilli Nelson tried to calm the festival back down but after his set it was out of hand again. The Red Hot Chilli Peppers closed the festival out but by that time the crowd was out of control. The song the TRHCP closed with was actually brought on by the giant bomb fire happening in front of them. It was kind of a song of the moment. To say that things were already shit before they played is down playing the effect other artist had on the show, mainly Limp, who was asked to calm the crowd down, but instead, played \"Break Stuff\" to a already volatile crowd.\n\nNothing against Limp. Just saying, he had a huge effect on the momentum of the crowd\n\nSources:\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodstock_99:_Peace,_Love,_and_Rage\n\nhttps://www.theringer.com/2019/8/20/20813422/woodstock-99-riots-red-hot-chili-peppers\n\nhttps://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a37106802/woodstock-99-personal-essay/", "/r/killthecameraman", "That video of them playing break stuff on the Woodstock documentary with all the talking heads talking about how horrible they are cracked me up. Like as I’m supposed to be hating them I’m getting super pumped up by the song and getting goosebumps as I’m anticipating that beautifully simple riff. Anyone who thinks he is only doing this for the money has to be overlooking how much fucking fun these guys are having on stage. Not everyone needs to be deep and insightful, some of us just want to break some shit.", "You may want to look into metal/rock concerts that happen in eastern europe... same 'demographic'... no violence... sometimes being a certain colour of skin doesn't mean people will act the same.....", "Saw them in 2008 at a free show. It was in the morning, and it was during the DNC in Denver.\n\nI've never been in such an energetic and wild crowd ever since or before.\n\nBest show I ever been too. Think they had only played one other show since their hiatus at that point. \n\nIt was really weird leaving the show and it was daylight.", "There's an extremely vast difference between saying he's some beacon of wholesomeness (which I didn't, that's something YOU said, not me) and saying he's not a toxic person just because he wrote a song about anger issues that literally every human being is capable of feeling. \n\nHe's reaching vastly way out in left field over a song designed for mosh pit fun. It's not an essay on the human condition with deep commentary on existentialism, it's a rock song written for entertainment. Get over yourselves lol\n\nYou guys are completely out of touch.\n\n\nOne time I wrote a poem on being heartbroken 20 years ago. My entire personality for all of my existence is that of a beacon of self defeat and loathing and heartbreak. Because I wrote a poem once and you read it, I'm everything you say I am.\n\nHonestly, grow up and get a clue.\n\nSnoop Dogg wrote about gang banging in his career, you don't see him doing drive by shootings in LA today. \n\nLearn how the world actually works instead of judging it from your inexperienced, narrow perspective.", "I was meh on Linkin Park before seeing this show in Detroit. Linkin Park was absolutely incredible. Went out and started buying their CDs after that show.", "Lemmy as well.", "I saw the Darkness once and the Hawkins brothers walked through the crowd with one on the other's shoulders while ripping blistering solos. I would have gone for the high five, but they were ripping blistering solos.", "got em", "Limp Bizkit is fucking awful.", "Not just labels, I think in every art form there's stages where an innovation will take place and the innovators go down in history as genius, then the market will get flooded by imitators and the standard will go down. Like for example Pollock, famous for his modern art, got famous because it was innovative, outside the box, and nobody had seen something like that before. A lot of people were against it at the time, even still, but he's still going down in history as an innovator who changed the game.", "I talk, where money?", "Eh....", "Is that the one that turned into a riot after the show cause those people climbed a fence and wouldn't come down?\n\nMy friend told me the best show he ever saw was Audioslave. They played a full set, then dropped a Soundgarden banner and played a few songs, then dropped a Rage banner and kept going. Tom would do crazy solos where Zack would be rapping and Chris Cornell would just stomp on his guitar pedals at random.", "Got any vids of him doing anything actually difficult?", "Hey that guy's pretty cool.", "gave the Pluto album a listen, it's def. not for me", "Damn, how many times did you play that CD???", "Text book example of “if you are cool to me, I’ll be cool to you.” Respect to the crowd for not absolutely shredding Wes apart in hopes of getting a souvenir, respect to Wes for taking a chance and letting the crowd show they can party with respect.", "Same. In that time I have become a much bigger fan of run the jewels as well. When I bought the tickets I was stoked on the bill, but in the last two years I’ve been listening to so much rtj that I’m almost happy it got postponed. Now I will be able to truly appreciate both groups.", "I just Googled a pic of that 2 days ago to show some kids, what a trip", "It’s the cool thing to be a fan of again. It’s like fashion where it goes away and comes back.", "God limp bizkit shows are always fun.\n\nMy favorite limp bizkit moment was in Woodstock 99, when they play break stuff and Fred goes \"gimme something to break\" in the chorus and the crowd starts passing stuff to the stage for him to break.", "Back in their heyday Limp Bizkit looked like the old dudes DJ'ing at the skating rink.", "Slayer sang about Mengele, don't think they wanted global genocide...", "Whoa didn't know that, that's awesome", "Why does literally every member of Limp Bizkit look like a Kyle", "Yeah it’s just the crowd lol", "When i read something like that, i always imagine if the actual person reads it. \n\nI mean you don't know what influence he had on the songs. \n\nI imagine he has lot of influence because he had a lot of beef with Wes.\n\nWes is INSANELY GOOD, but look at him. How many solo project he had that went pretty much nowhere. \n\nLB's covers are fucking HUGE. And then there are songs like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA4nW7y7ois\n\nGreat fucking band, that's all.", "But they do have fun", "Reddit doesn’t know what that is", "Gotta be honest your comment comes off a bit dick-ish, but I’m with you overall. The Woodstock ‘99 doc kinda made me feel vindicated in always thinking the culture around nu metal was fairly shitty.", "Most people listen to music to get a \"vibe\" or \"feeling\" going. The mumble rap scene just gives you that chillin/high feeling I guess. I see it kinda like growling in metal where there's no way in hell you'll know what they're saying without looking up the lyrics.", "That dude spent the entire time taking a selfie", "What does that even mean? Their first mosh pit was in ‘99 they say", "But wait. That hbo doc told me that this band and this song specifically directly led to all the violence and rapes that occurred at Woodstock ‘99.\n\nWhere are all the rapes??", "I love that we are living through a Limp Bizkit renaissance", "Is your best mate listening to Tool exclusively?\n\nIf not, tell him to stfu. :D", "This sounds so unreal. :D", "Limps set from Lollapalooza this year is super entertaining.", "Their initial Three Dolla Billz Yall album is their best work. Counterfeit, Pollution, Faith, Nobody Loves Me, Sour... So damn heavy and good.", "Not sure how that leads to him doing Nazi salutes to the audience...", "Wes Borland was the only thing I liked about LB", "Fucking clowns blame LB for Woodstock chaos?\n\nAt some point they just let everyone in. The organizers weren't prepared. Who dares to blame a band from that festival?\n\nLol, how fucking dense and stupid.", "I’m so glad I quickly grew out of that “hate my dad” phase. That era of music was awful. Woodstock documentary on HBO gave me flashbacks of how misogynistic, homophobic, and racist that culture was.", "People and their fucking cameras at concerts. Drive me crazy. \nCan't people enjoy the moment anymore ?", "Can you really call Deftones \"rap rock\"? They've always been more of an alternative metal band.", "I don't know, I imagine they probably gave him a lot of creative freedom. He got to do basically whatever he wanted with a high visibility group. There are worse gigs.", "Senor Pan", "Fred must have saved up a huge load for that one!", "Ozzfest 97:\n\n* Black Sabbath\n* Pantera\n* Machine Head\n* Fear Factory\n* Powerman 5000\n* Coal Chamber\n* Neurosis\n* Drain STH\n* Vision of Disorder\n\nThat was a crazy lineup.", "It's the Limp Bizkit renaissance! The bizkit is now a fully baked croissant", "If you like Wes, he does have a solo project called Black Light Burns - which is a little more industrial rock. \n\nThere’s 3 albums on Spotify, one traditional album “Cruel Melody”, one album of covers “Cover Your Heart” and one bizarre droney concept album without any lyrics “Lotus Island”. \n\nThere’s a fourth album, “the moment you realize you’re going to fall”, which is stellar - but not available. Probably on YouTube though.", "SOAD, TOOL, STATIC-X, DEFTONES, APC, DISTURBED, GODSMACK, SLIPKNOT, LB, LP, EMINEM, 50 Cent, P.O.D., RAMMSTEIN\n\nidk man, reads very mediocre. /s", "it is, it uses to be a regular thing in rugby lockerroom", "A member of Trivium used to do this. I wanna say it was the bassist, but it’s been over 10 years. He did it in two separate shows in the middle of the song. One at a festival, one at a smaller club", "Yes and no.\n\nEveryone knows how good he is, yet no one knows all his solo projects.", "Indigo Flow was always my jam, but mostly for all the local references.", "Alot of prominent rock stars shit on him because they weren't into nu-metal rock/rap. Corey Taylor, Trent reznor, placebo, Eminem, ICP, Marilyn Manson, most of this stuff is on his wiki.", "I went in Atlanta, kurt slipped a disc in his back on a 4 wheeler the day before and missed the show. Newsted sang all the songs, they got some kid from the pit to jump on stage and sing master of puppets, it was fucking awesome. Then at the end we got to keep our ticket stubs to enter a lottery for a free show later that year. I won tickets like 5 rows back and queens of the stone age opened. I did not realize that you should be wearing ear plugs when you are that close at a rock show lol it was awesome.", "I'm still waiting for Zack's solo album that he's been working on since 2000.", "Slipknot's first two albums are still fucking awesome in my opinion. Loved Iowa especially.", ">I did not realize that you should be wearing ear plugs when you are that close at a rock show lol it was awesome.\n\nAs I read this my ears are singing me the song of their people. It goes ^^eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee", "Why does the world keep wanting to make me like Limp Bizkit? Why is it almost working?", "Omg ahahahahah", "Ooh, I'll check that out.", "I have a pic of me kissing Mac Demarco on the cheek", "Dads need to break stuff too", "He was a guest character in a random WWE game back in the day.", "Pimp Shizkit", "It provided me with an outlet for my angst back in the day. Obviously I grew out of it but I like revisiting the songs. There's just something cathartic with angry music.", "By the way, which one's Limp?", "Black light burns/cruel melody was so good. I still go back to Lie and 4 Walls on the regular, really wish he dropped another album or two with that style.", "It's probably different for everyone, but for me it took a lot of \"giving it a chance\" before things started to click.\n\nIf it wasn't for conscious rap pulling me out of my metal elitism, I probably wouldn't have also made my way towards soundcloud rap type stuff. Super glad I did!\n\nLots of very fun and creative artists in the genre, despite what it looks like from the outside.", "That was the first gathering of the Proud Boys, they just didn’t know it yet", "The problem with mumble rap is that it totally removes poetry from Rhythm And Poetry. \nAdditonally, the \"rhythm\" is almost exclusively roland 808. The whole genre lacks creativity and a raison d'être.", "Lol in most cases this would be an r/killthecameraman moment, but in this case I completely agree with his choice to just fucking headbang instead.", "I’ve never seen someone tame a mosh pit before. If it’s gonna be anyone, makes sense to be him lol", "And DJ Lethal who was in a little known band called House of Pain", "He didn’t kiss him, but my uncle was actually a pilot for a flight that Travis Barker was on. He was texting me about it the whole flight! I was like “should you really be texting this much while flying a plane??”\n\nRIP Uncle Johnny", "Holy shit, ty. Not for everyone but I found my jam, lmao. https://youtu.be/gd3Y4o95ObU", "And fighting stance!", "He's still around. He doesn't post videos very often", "For all the backlash that LB gets for being an unserious and/or shitty band, you’ve gotta understand that they were/are FUN. \n\nStepbrothers never won best picture, but i still enjoy it. Musicians love to dump on other musicians that have more success being less “serious” about their art. \n\nOne of the requisites of art is that you dont have to like it.\n\nLimp Bizkit is fun and I will always dig em.", "When grandpa has to worry about throwing out his hip again it's tough to be as wild", "> but to pretend he is some beacon of human wholesomeness is pretty silly. \n\nI'll give ya a nickel if you can show me where they did that.", "He disrespected Mancow? Good.", "What a fucking amazing concert", "What? Nah I didn't like Limp Bizkit in the early 2000s, no way... not me... nope.\n\nI certainly don't have a bunch of old Limp Bizkit CDs in my car still, or MP3s on my computer/phone.\n\nNope not me", "There's already songs that are about shooting up schools. Hell pumped up kicks is literally about shooting up a school and it was crazy popular.", "That's the 'anti-establishment' aspect.", "It really is. There's other artists out there too.", "Even people who \"hate\" Limp can get down on N2Gether Now. \"DJ Premier? Method Man? ... Aight, let's give it a shot.\"", "Same here! Have for sure listened to more RTJ than RATM since I bought tickets, and I hadn't even heard of RTJ at that point.", "My 12 year old ass lost a single shoe in a mosh pit at that show. I'll never forget it lol", "My name says it all.", "Crazy times, Up in Smoke Tour shortly after.", "Not sure how he’s underrated as he was voted as one of the top 100 guitarists of all time. I can definitely see how it may seem that way now versus late 90s early 2000s when he was consistently talked about.", "haha this is true. \n\nWaay back in the day, my friends and I attended the first sounds of the underground tour in lowell MA, and i was probably 14 years old and maybe 115lbs soaking wet. \n\nI wanted to get launched into the crowd, so I found these two monsters at the back of the crowd, and they happily obligued to launching me... and after a running start into their hands, holy crap did they launch me, I went up about 15 feet and landed right in the middle of the pit. I was dazed laying on the ground and 2 guys dragged me out to the side of the crowd and made sure I wasnt hurt. They then laughed and gave my some high fives saying that is was crazy to watch. Really made me feel like a champ haha.\n\nThey take care of their own, which is awesome.", "except there's an overwhelmingly amount of evidence that Pollack's work among others was a direct adoptee of the CIA's successful cultural influence program. his rise in popularity is directly tied to unprecedented and exorbitant acquisitions that were made very publicly through prominent museums rather than grassroots popularity driving a counterculture movement\n\nsounds like a conspiracy theory, but if you look at the trends and sentiments in the art communities at the time that looked very favorably on the Soviet contributions to the arts it makes perfect sense, and while the exact efforts of the CIA can't be proved, the program did exist and the results purported by the program were and still are undeniably successful", "I remember being in the mosh pit with my wife for a Three Days Grace concert in the late 2,000s and this dude who was probably 6’6” and 280 lbs was next to us. Legit every time the pit got wild he would basically just stand on one side of my wife and act as a wall while I stood on the other side so she didn’t get crushed lol. People in mosh pits are almost always good folks.", "I hope you know I pack Viagra. \n\nI'll drink a White Claw. \n\nAnd if my day keeps going this way I just might, GO TO BED BY 8PM TONIGHT!!", "They moved the camera during what would’ve been the best part… :/", "Stealing my sisterand brother in law's Hot Dog Flavored Water CD was a highlight for me at 12 years old.", "See, the only people that \"hated\" nu-metal were the Gen-Xers. For whatever reason that cohort just seeethes at the very mention of bands like limp, or Korn, or Linkin Park, or Chevelle, SOaD etc. \nFor us? It was fucking siiiiiick. \nDon't get me wrong, it is definitely a specific stylized sound, you don't have to like it, but the insane hateful over reaction was only ever really coming from butthurt Gen-Xers. \nWe've never stopped listening to this stuff. I just like to believe Millen'z are more open to ALL music in whatever form it comes. \nIf you like it? Like it. Who fucking cares what someone else thinks ya'know? \n \nWhich reminds me. \nI need to go fire up some Korn now.", "Sounds like their music is still cheesy AF.", "Stfu", "Im 6'4 220 and I ate shit in a Slayer pit and was immediately pulled to my feet by two guys.", "I knew the second I clicked that the camera would go skyward the second it got good.....\n\n\nThanks guys for not letting me down... :/", "They paid an amazing tribute to friends lost at one of their gigs somewhat recently. Durst and Borland both said that Chester Benningtons death in particular hit them hard and somehow made them feel that they had to get back on the road to keep that movement alive too.\n\nEarly 2000's was a crazy explosion in music.", "Why?", "I raise you Wes's Big Dumb Face. No really the band is called Big Dumb Face. \n\nhttp://www.rockodrome.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/BIG-DUMB-FACE.png", "Man made a business decision in that moment. And it was a good one", "They are back?", "Jay Weinberg from slipknot too was trained in Jazz by his Dad.", "As a musician, the \"music\" they make is unpleasant to my ears.", "We had seats in the stands and my friends and everyone around us all rushed the floor when Limp Bizkit came on the stage. I wouldn't have been that brave at 12. Even at 18, 6' 1\", and 200lbs it was still a bit sketchy.", "I think OP and I have a different definition of \"Mosh Pit.\"", "Not an album, but Wes did some guitar work on Filter’s ‘Anthems for the Damned’ record - I believe the track “In Dreams”. Highly underrated.", "True! Got to see them in 2011 and he just stole the show. He had the same paintjob (lol) as in this video", "Link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgDkQmsWgp8 . I remember thinking when he yells \"Just Like You\", sounds just like Fred Durst lol.", "Summer sanitarium 2004?", "Hell yeah", "Wes was always the best thing about Limp Bizkit. Embraces the weirdness. I was never a massive fan of the band, but I think he’s great.", "He does a nice lil Sieg Heil at 1:10.", "not a fan of their music but dang that guy looks cool. :)", "Dude I'd still go to Limp Bizkit concert. I'd Rock the shit out of a red hat and feel like I'm in high school again.", "If you have been in one. All the rules of the mosh pit are at play here.", "They blew up after lalapoloza this year.. however you spell that thing.", "MHA S6 — Battle of the Bands: League of Villains vs. Class 1A", "Hes calling your mom a whore.", "I'm 35 and went to a show with Trivium, Lamb of God and Megadeth. I'm in the standing room floor and lead singer of Trivium asks \"Okay guys be honest: How many of you are in mosh-retirement?\"\n\nAnd I'm just like \"Yeah man I'm out of shape and I have a wife and two kids. I'll headbang and throw horns but I don't really feel like jumping and moshing tbh\"", "It was extremely sketchy. I shouldn't have been there but ya know, 12-13 year old no fear. I got tossed around like a rag doll for what seemed like eternity and came out missing one of my shoes lol. Weird thing is I don't even remember Ice Cube being on the list but I was young. Didn't appreciate it as much as I should have.", "I didn't know Paul Giamatti was in Limp Bizkit..", "If you can't explain it then you don't understand it.", "“This mosh pit is brutal!!!” people just calmly standing around in a circle listening to music", "I don’t know why this isn’t the top comment.", "Keep staying weird Wes.", "Ice Cube had to film \"Next Friday\" sometime during the tour and Incubus subbed in for him, so he may not have been at your show.", "Re-Arranged too. If someone says they don't like Limp Bizkit I have them listen to that.", "Limp Bizkit is an incredible band fronted by an absolute twat. Otto and Borland are fucking legends.", "I was fortunate enough to meet him at the Family Values Tour at a couple of shows, super nice guy. Actually remembered me from a different city where I was introduced to him earlier on the tour. It was the funniest interaction ever, I was all expecting him to be all dark and creepy, turns out he's a music/guitar nerd like the rest of us.\n\nNext to Dimebag, Wes is without a doubt the nicest, sweetest, most thankful to meet fans musician I've ever met.", "Lame, come and get me when he's in the middle of a real mosh pit", "and also adoption", "This was my first concert ever. Never forget.", "Just wanna take this opportunity to let y'all know that in 2005 Limp Bizkit made a socially and politically conscious record that was actually fucking great. It was heavily influenced by RATM, Durst did almost none of the lyric writing, and it sounded like Turnstile before Turnstile even existed. Do yourself a favor and check [it out. ](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLASJxEdHSYe4nqA1TuKM81q_2CZ_BnkGt)", "lol", "I still don't know what mumble rap is. I keep thinking back to old 50 Cent songs every time it's brought up. Can you link me some popular mumble rap or something?", "It was my first concert as well. I don't remember the shoe though. I wonder if i can find that online.", "People clown on rap rock but forget those guitar riffs are pretty much just Djenty bouncy goodness we all know today", "I mean... I think he gets a pass.", "There a sub for that r/oldbabies", "there is no mosh pit in this video.....", "\"Mosh pit\"", "In my experience the elbow throwers are assholes that don't know mosh etiquette. But the rest is spot on. I've been in multiple mosh pits where everyone stops to look for an earring or because someone fell down.", "The best thing about this song is how accessible it is. You don't even need to know how to play the guitar.", "Wes is rad, this is awesome.", "Edit: Sorry. I meant this is not a mosh pit in any way. \n\nNot really a mosh pit. Just people jumping up and down. But still.", "The fucking Silo, yesssssss", "For something so anti-establishment, it certainly lacks creativity and originality. The music vids in particular are abhorrently similar, as are the aforementioned drum loops.", "MuMbLe RaP jesus christ can you be more reddit if you tried you human dustgathering bookshelf", "I'm not familiar, but I will be shortly.", "I imagine if you actually tried to start a mosh pit at a limp bizkit show people would be confused and either get butt hurt and actually try to fight you or fall flat on their ass and complain to a bouncer, but in the end no pit would form.", "Yes!! My first concert at age 15. I knew of System and Wu Tang going in, but couldn't have named a song of theirs. That show made me a life long fan, and definitely ignited my love of rap and heavy rock. Limp was great, but those were very hard acts to follow.", "I always thought Limp Bizkit was a great band with an unbelievably shitty frontman lyricist. The heights they could have achieved with a great vocalist man..", "LOL!! I love how other than Wes they all look like Fred durst with slightly different hair", "That timeline doesn’t add up. Unless you were super young for your grade.", "RTJ is touring again?", "bes band ever yo", "I mean I loved me some limp bizkit back in the day and I'm in my 40s now", "Each of them has their own unique style that says \"I just bought a Slim Jim and a Monster Energy from the gas station\"", "This is cool, but he's no Duke Lion", "First mosh pit I was in I was stood next to another woman about my age, but she was much smaller than me. She fell pretty early on and I reached out to grab her and managed to catch her the same time three of the guys near us also did, so she never even hit the floor. We righted her and went back to moshing lol. Super cool.", "Reminds me of another band. De staat played a song in the crowd that goes wild.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/p5TzXy9_CMs", "Big Dumb Face will always be the superior band", "No, this one did not result in a riot. But Denver pd anticipated it to become one.\n\nWe marched from the colesium to the Pepsi center, where Obama was accepting the nomination, to deliver a note about getting out of Afghanistan and ending gitmo. I don't remember the details.\n\nLong story short, it was a 6 mile one way walk, lined with riot police. It was an unpermited March/protest, but went peacefully.\n\nI think the one you are thinking of was the show outside the Staples Center. That show wasn't sanctioned where as the Denver one was, it was free as well.", "This sounds accurate. The funny part is, Limp Bizkit could replace just about anyone to fill Fred Durst's role and no one to replace Wes Borland. I mean they even tried, it didn't work.", "I mean, they are from Jacksonville… it's basically that, but in town form", "Mr. Bizkit", "I saw them live at lollapalooza that shit was a show to remember. You had Fred Durst embracing his dad look and Wes Borland just going crazy laying it down.", "Random stranger here but I just watched the Woodstock 99 documentary that came out recently! Wondering if you could give some insight on your experience there? The scene with just the massive sea of a crowd....it left me with my mouth open as I watched. And seeing the offspring play at a local venue when I was roughly 12 in 2007...just brought back so many memories.", "So is half black face acceptable? Asking for a friend…", "You monster", "Detox is comming, any day now.", "https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumble_rap\n\n[Here's](https://youtu.be/E1577veZF_E) an extreme example (not necessarily considered good, but quite mumbly). The comments are interesting though as it ranges from \"these are special Ed kids\" to \"but look how much fun they're having\" which kind of exemplifies the range of takes on the genre when the music can be a little challenging.", "I'm playing bass in a soad tribute band next week for Halloween. So very excited.", "After not listening to LB in nearly 20 years, I pulled them up on youtube yesterday in my car.\n\nThat shit still fucking slaps.", "His other projects Black Light Burns and Big Dumb Face were both pretty good", "Playing a ton of the big festivals. They were scheduled to kick off a big tour with RATM when COVID shut everything down.", "Psycho female blowing up the phone line. You better tighten that screw it's been loose for a long time. Best. Lyrics. Ever.", "I appreciated that the cameraman didn't sacrifice a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity just to get some video.", "Limp bizkit absolute beasts at drops. Even at Lolla this year they killed it. When the camera here started shaking from the drop I wasnt even mad lol you cant just stay still during that", "Scars on Broadway is sick for the meantime.", "I touched Weird Al Yankovich while he was dressed in a full leopard skin tight spandex suit after winning front row center seat tickets from a radio contest. Ended up getting stoned and forgot to leave my house so we were like 3 songs late and someone else had sat in our seats so we sat in some open ones off to the right on like the third row. Ended up realizing why Weird Al gave away the tickets for the middle seats in the first three rows: he showered the front of the audience in spit the entire concert. I’ve never been more thankful of my stoner tendencies.", "I wonder if it's a bit of a dolly Parton strategy. Always be in costume on stage, in photos, etc... So that no one recognizes you when you're in street clothes without the makeup.", "Yeah, that Lolla set from this year proved our shit is timeless. They fucking crushed* that show, and the crowd could not have been any more in to it.", "Hahahaha!", "Uh, what?", "que buena guitarra", ">\tI've been to a lot of metal gigs and not once have I ever had a bad experience with pits or walls of death\n\nI would’ve agreed until the hardcore crowd. They’re just dickish meatheads looking to hurt people. It might be different in other countries (I’m UK) but whilst it’s a bit better lately (speaking before covid) there was a pretty shitty period for metal gigs.", "And also jokes", "Just got to see Limp at Lollapalooza this year, Wes wore a fuckin short kilt and they kept cutting to the cameraman with the low angle directly in front of him. Lovely scene lmao", "Sure would be cool to see them blistering solos", "Can't believe I'll only be seeing Fear Factory for the first time ever next year. And without Burton (though by all accounts his voice is so shot that it might be for the best).", "I just saw System of a Down with Korn on Saturday. They're on tour right now.", "It was a wild show. There was a blizzard in Pittsburgh, so there were only like 200 people there.", "Seen Kyle? There 5 of em right over there!", "Private Illusion", "I love when bands do shit like this. When P.OD. played in my city in a cramped venue, the lead singer went right in the middle of the crowd. In think they played Boom, made the whole building shake like crazy. Easily one of the best shows I've been to, especially with fucking Alien Ant Farm as support.", "Went to Ozzfest 02 or 03, Judas Priest, Sabbath, and whichever band Phil Anselmo joined after Pantera. My god were they awful. Got booed off stage. So did Lacuna Coil. Slipknot, who I was never really into put on an INCREDIBLE fucking performance. I left with a newfound respect for them. They know how to get a crowd pumped the fuck up. I think I hooked up with some girl in a portapotty lol. Shut up I was 15!", "He looks like a Biwa Bokuboku in Nioh", "Nah, fuck the guys throwing elbows. I was at a Tool concert and it was absolutely unnecessary.", "Right.", "Super fully agreed. They seem to be the assholes that just want to brawl. It was way too aggressive compared to the majority of people.", "Saved", "So, it's a lot more of slurring their words to be incomprehensible than it is about rapping quietly. I really don't hate it. Although I mostly listen to rock which has a lot of lyrics that are difficult to understand.", "He’s also in other bands plus solo projects. He spent a year playing guitar for Marilyn Manson and confirmed that he’s a sick piece of trash", "Why this baby look like it pay taxes.", "God, now I want new RATM songs... Could you imagine how hard they would go?", "I think we can expect them to do some songs together!", "Love or hate them, Limp Bizkit is an iconic part of many coming of age stories.", "he played it up for sure... white wig, wind breaker jacket, polo shirt, yellow aviators... he was dressed up as an old man", "Family values tour ‘99\n\nThey opened with “Break stuff” and it was the biggest, Craziest pit I’ve been in to this day.", "I avoided Limp Bizkit during my metal elitist phase back then, but 3 Dollar Bill Y'all slaps so hard", "As a musician, you should respect the whole different strokes idea", "I went to 2002. I do not remember a whole lot about it. I remember Mudvayne playing, and being awful. I remember Marilyn Manson playing, and absolutely fucking killing it. I'm pretty sure Disturbed was there, but I don't think I watched them. I don't recall Priest, but I do recall Slipknot (I've seen them 2 or 3 times, and they were consistently good live). I'm thinking if Anselmo was there, it was Down, probably.", "If we're generalizing, I guess people who die in mosh pits just up and killed themselves then.", "Haha I started with Linkin Park too. Before long I was getting into death metal.", "Push eachother at your metal shows, keep it out of hardcore", "if i were holding my camera there, i sure as fuck would rather enjoy the moment than make sure it's perfectly captured. this camera man was fucking feeling it", "What skate park was that?", "Is it even possible to keep up with trends like that without coming off all Fellow Kids? Just go with it man", "\"Our grunge was fine! Why go make new* grunge?!\"", "that looks like a nightmare for the security guys", "Yes! This was one of my first big concerts in Toronto, very fond memories.", "Underrated comment", "That shit you write is actually hilarious. Keep going.", "Limp Bizkit exceeding all expectations, while Smash Mouth on the other hand...", "I know there are songs like that, I want to see him defend it. Which he doesn't, because he thinks that is propaganda or some hilarious shit.", "Fred is actually from an even worse place in NC, Gastonia. Every time I have to drive through there I have to call my shrink to talk me down from driving into a bridge abutment.", "I remember the NIN drama and Wes pretty much siding with Trent", "Says the boomer who says \"he's toxic wahhhh\" over a rock song lol. \n\n\n\n\"GOD DAMN SATANIC TEENAGERS AND THEIR ROCK MUSIC WHY DON'T THEY LISTEN TO GOOD CHRISTIAN MUSIC!!!!\"\n\n--you, the music police.", "I seen this one at the cow palace in SF. Underrated venue", "I feel like Wes was in the same boat as Mark Tremonti from Creed. Amazing guitarists stuck in incredibly lame bands.", "r/fuckthecameraman", "I never understood what that painted dude was doing there and I still don't know much about him but he is definitely cool.", "Now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a while", "Wow. That’s a bunch of angry white virgins.", "haha same same", "Fuck Limp Bizkit and Fred Durst in particular https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/limp-bizkit-guitarist-search-a-behind-the-scenes-account/\nthey straight up stole music from kids.\n\n\nWhen Wes left, all the talent left the band.", "YES, MORE!", "In what world is Wes Borland considered underrated?", "Spoken like someone who knows they lost the argument. Nothing left to say so you curl up like a little bitch in the fetal position.\n\nCheck mate, have a good one, loser.", "haha this made me laugh so hard! I can so relate", "I'm glad I didn't have to scroll too far to find this comment.", "Well, I think it's fun to always see what new stuff is out there. Never know what genres, bands, or sounds might be stumbled across. But I also agree. There's no value in posing. Like what you like.", "There's a lot more of a cultural movement behind mumble rap, particularly a lot more social commentary. Much of it rivals some alt-rock and grunge for it's messaging, it just happens to be a message a lot of people oppose as well.", "He was on a podcast recently, it was the first time I heard the guy speak. I thought he was genuine and thoughtful. I wasn't especially interested in his history or Limp Bizkit but he was so good of a guest I ended up listening to the whole thing.", "Dead. On. lol", "I also watched that documentary -- I was particularly curious since I was actually there. I guess I can share a smattering of random thoughts.\n\n* It was unbelievably hot. My friend and I had a small tent, and it was basically an oven by 8am. It was so small I couldn't even fully extend my legs (she was about ~10 inches shorter than me though, so she probably could). I remember waking up Sunday morning to find a fully naked woman just hanging outside our tent (not specifically ours -- she was just kind of sitting in the grass nearby).\n* My friend and I brought walk-talkies as a way to keep in touch, but it didn't work -- unless you wanted to sync up with some random roadie.\n* I remember seeing Korn on Friday night, and I was up near the front -- probably twenty feet from the stage. I thought they were great, although in retrospect, they sounded like ass. But there was something magical about the entire band stopping playing to allow the crowd to sing \"What if I could die?\" from the song Blind.\n* I remember there being some seriously awful issues with the speakers when Metallica played (Saturday night, I think). It kind of ruined the performance, at least for those of us near the back (not sure how the sound was closer to the stage).\n* Alanis Morissette kicked major ass, and I'm not even a fan of hers. Jewel was pretty good, too.\n* I watched Limp Bizkit play, but I was near the back. I don't recall seeing anything overtly bad happening during their set.\n* The entire venue got increasingly dirty and gross as the weekend went on. It was sort of anxiety inducing.\n* There was a never ending drum circle that was kind of cool at first, but then just got annoying -- it just kept going all weekend.\n* I remember being on top of one of the vendor tents with a bunch of people when part of the tent collapsed. The part I was on didn't collapse, but it did cause me to do this crazy action-move like slide down the tent, where I kind of flipped myself over when I hit the the drop-off, so I could land on my feet. I ran over to where the collapse happened, and everyone was laughing (legit -- I don't think anyone got seriously hurt).\n* Being on top of a tent (probably the same one from above), I remember a topless woman bouncing/walking by us (it was kind of bouncy up there), and some guy near me shouted \"show me your tits!\" She looked back at him and screamed \"No, you show me yours!\"\n* There was an odd, sort of communal feeling when The Red Hot Chili Peppers played their hit song, Under the Bridge. Everyone was singing along, and it was kind of cool. It wasn't like a normal concert where the band plays a song that everyone knows -- I just think that because it was an intense weekend, it felt like a moment of solitude and comradery. \n* I remember being in the crowd and watching a case of beer for a couple of gay men (I think they had to go to the bathroom). When they came back, some bigoted asshole tried to start shit with them. I don't remember what happened though.\n* That communal feeling quickly went away when people started settings fires. I remember being around a massive bonfire, when someone broke in with a big display of teddy bears (that he clearly stole from a vendor), which he then threw into the fire.\n* I remember seeing people trying to bust up ATMs.\n* There was a good three hour bottleneck trying to get out of the festival -- I distinctly remember five lines of cars trying to merge into one. I recall hearing some loud bangs while sitting there. I had thought they might have been explosions, but I really have no idea (and I couldn't see because there was a makeshift wall in the way).\n\nThe whole weekend was bananas. I didn't get injured or anything, and I didn't do any drugs that weekend. I don't even think I had any alcohol, either.", "Looks like he's dressed up as MAC from the amazing Paul Rudd movie MAC & Me.", "that's baby bizkit", "TAS has brutal pits, but I've seen crowd killers get immediately rocked and thrown from the pit most of the time. Nobody wants unnecessary blood on the dance floor", "All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi\r \nFar from suicidal still I get them tendencies\r \nBringing back the memories that I really miss\r \nWhen I reminisce, rocking back in the 80s", "Nu-Metal era kid here. Can you suggest some newer or up and coming artists? I'm dieing for some new music!", "It's because their prime audience are in their 40s and 50s now with prime spending power. Same thing happened with 80s bands 10 years back.", "I had a lot of respect for Wes when he was in Limp Bizkit. I had even more respect for him when he left.\n\nMy respect for him was destroyed when he went crawling back.", "His magical arrows fly like sparrows!", "Wes is one of my favorite musicians. Big Dumb Face and Black light Burns were unreal bands in my younger drunker days.", "In fairness, all of LB minus Fred Durst are underrated. John Otto and Sam Rivers are a seriously tight rhythm section.", "That....explains so much", "You’re totally right but you sound like our parents.\n\nIt’s tough but time is a circle.", "Just checked out the intro song to said album. Has a sorta QOTSA/NIN vibe. Digging it already.\n\nThank you!", "its simple. rather than listening to the lyrics for their content, its more along the lines of that the voice is an instrument. its not about what the songs about, its about how it sounds. see: young thug. lyrically incomprehensible, but he uses his voice like an instrument. good example of this is his verse on hookah by tyga", "That's a good point. I hated Creed and Scott Stapp, but always found their songs to be interesting to play on the guitar. And in fairness to him, he was featured in quite a few guitar mags back then.", "Those people in the audience are definitely not all in there 40s and 50s", "nice", "You are the money, friend.", "The entire album is fantastic. I was listening to this in college and shit.", ">I don't think he was kinda dressed as an old man, but rather he is an old man. dude is 51.\n\n51 is old? I'll just die then.", "Plus he's an incredible guitar player . Most talented one in the band for sure", "Agreed. He was easily thr most talented one in the band. Such a damn good riff creator", "Did you know he streams on twitch? He and a bunch of people do now. Watching Mark Hoppus play bass along with some songs from old albums was an incredible experience for me, since i grew up listening to that stuff.", "Great video, but fuck Fred Durst for causing the riots at Woodstock ‘99.", "But baby, you're still about as real as a three dollar bill", "Here comes the\n\nBurning\n\nBlood red\n\nHead on fire", "Probably a good thing for Limp Bizkit https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Michalik", "Yeah that’s baby biscuit", "Our insurance isn't good enough for that!", "at least it wasn't the dude missing it all to film himself in the pit.", "Holy shit, I had no idea. This explains so much.", "Has it gone away?", "I will always have a major respect for him. He is a true artist.", "Mind giving a quick summary or link to said drama? Hadn't heard of this", "At least he can take you to the Mathews bridge", "Wes is clearly the talent powerhouse of the band . Bonus points that he's also a good person and cool dude", "Captain Riffalusion", "Right? He was there for the concert. He started getting into it , it's line bizkits most iconic song ffs", "Interestingly, im seeing a trend of a lot of \"mumble rappers\" embracing a pop-punk sound as they evolve, which kinda goes with this nu-metal/rap-rock resurgence.", "I can feel this energy through the video, wild", "Yeah I'm annoyed people are talking shit . My man went to the show to have a good time and it's their most iconic song . Give them a break", "I'd be terrified of a Limp Bizkit mosh pit.", "Pretty cool that he's still rocking the makeup after all these years.", "Boiler is awesome. Just re-discovered that song a couple of weeks ago and it still holds up.", "It's definitely died down in the past few years with the rise of Drill and pop-punk type sounds. Plus I think focus on lyricism is making a comeback now. I'm kinda expecting 2000's-era \"underground hiphop\" sound to get bigger in the coming years.", "That was not a moshpit.", "Limp Biscuit is and was one of the worst bands of our time. The gospel according to me", "If I remember correctly there's a a song on that record called mighty penis laser.", ">I don't think he was kinda dressed as an old man, but rather he is an old man. dude is 51.\n\nAre you at all aware of the event he's talking about before speculating on it?", "It's from a long ass time ago. Trent in an interview said “It’s one thing if you know your place, like, ‘Hey, I’m an idiot who plays shitty music, but people buy it, f*k it, I’m having fun’. But it’s another thing when you think you’re David Bowie after you’ve stayed up all night to write a song called ‘Break Stuff’,” Reznor laughs, injecting contempt into every word. “I mean, Fred Durst probably spelt the word ‘break’ wrong the first couple of times. Fred Durst might be a cool guy, I don’t know him. But his ‘art’ – in the words loosest sense – sucks.”\n\nAfter which Fred wrote a shitty song about him and constantly rant about how he sucks while Wes continuously praised NIN.", "That's not a mosh pit. Just an excited crowd. That said, it looked like one formed nearby when the music dropped... and also, that does appear to be him.", "Except when the skinheads turn up, then it's best to take a breather for a few songs.\n\nGranted, this happened to me in the 90s so maybe it's friendlier now…", "Fred Dicklessurst touched my ass in 2002 ain’t it a funny story in all ends with his woman and her sister take me to lake house for scaring my ass in the water event mode but I as any champion athlete whom college title holder for platform diving and 400 butterfly abruptly turned the tables in the masterminds ditch in lessons to swim notedly had a difficult evening for herself. I tied her ass to a buoy in the middle of the lake 2 miles from land with a hi-c juice box and my Panties in chocolate edible in melted to my pussy souvenir. Jail time was a worthy outcome as she’s snitched to game warden buddy of hers in my actions so worth it and I fucked her adult aged oldest boy weekend after bachelors gave His ass in 4 year dumb but cock huge Ricky Smallerton fuck and toss to mommy’s inbox in HD format", "Maybe not this specific concert. I went to a korn concert about a month or so back, and everyone there was 35 to 50ish. The younger kids were with their dads. It was nice to seeing them enjoying this music. \n\nI was not referring to this specific concert, but a resurgence in a specific genre when the generation hits middle age.", ">\tDrill and pop-punk type sounds\n\nGod damn I’m out of the loop. I don’t know what “Drill” is and the only pop punk sounding rapper in can think of is MGK, and Come & Go* by Juice WRLD.", "This dude probably goes to FFDP shows", "I will never not love Limp Bizkit and the Chocolate Starfish album. It's an absolute masterpiece and pretty much every song's a classic.\n\nAlso, Fred Durst is an awesome frontman. Great voice and stage presence, and Wes Borland is a beast of a guitarist.", "My favorite is someone found a phone, they handed it to the tallest person they could find to hold it up and started a \"WHOS FUCKIN PHONE?!\" chant. it was beautiful.", "I don't care how you feel about Limb Bizkit, that was fucking hardcore.", "I took the same journey! Started with LB, then via Soulfly slowly into increasingly heavier stuff! \nAnd now very excited about the upcoming new Archspire album, it's going to be awesome! (although I was more hyped about Golden Mouth of Ruin, that starting riff is amazing)", "Hope they paid those guys extra for that. Imagine the suspense in wtf these lb fans are gonna do when the song drops 😵", "My favorite look of Wes was the burnt match head.", "I went to the first Summer Sanitatium tour and saw someone chuck their shoe at Fred as hard as they could and it hit him in the chest and is only response was\n\n\"Is that all you got motherfucker?\"\n\nThat was my first concert and I'll never forget it. It was also my first time seeing titties in person, so many fucking titties.", "I live in Virginia and have driven by there on the way to the beach, with absolutely zero desire to stop", "I was always more of a Burgalveist/Organ Splitter man myself.", "Hello yeah. Man, I love that Suicidal Tendencies song too. God the 80s and 90s were great for punk rock.", "Yep they were supposed to tour with Run the Jewels", "Buahahahha🤣", "I wonder how the rest of the band feels knowing he’s having more fun than them.", "OH MY GOD DUKE LION!!! I forgot all about that record. Thank you stranger.", "Well, all of my 2 friends and most of the people I work with don't know about it.", "Zeitgeist abandoned the purple?", "> I watched Limp Bizkit play, but I was near the back. I don't recall seeing anything overtly bad happening during their set.\n\nWHAT?!?!?! What about them playing Break Stuff and the crowd started burning shit down and girls got raped?\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodstock_%2799#Violence", "Woodstock '99 \n \n [Violence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodstock_'99#Violence) \n \n >Violent actions occurred during and after the Saturday night performance by Limp Bizkit; they included fans tearing plywood from the walls during their performance of the song \"Break Stuff\". Several sexual assaults were also reported in the aftermath of the concert. The band's vocalist, Fred Durst, stated during the concert, \"Don't let anybody get hurt. But I don't think you should mellow out.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "This is so stupid and funny.", "Nice.", "Fuck me thats perfect", "this is metal AS FUCK", "if that band had just had a different singer we'd still be talking about it today, like Nirvana. Wes Borland —and arguably the rest of the band— were covertly brilliant musicians", "Didn’t really see any moshing going on…", "Yeah I kept waiting for the moshing to happen, this was just people jumping up and down.", "I'm surprised Wes is associated with limp biscuit.", "But in order for the fist to go down the elbow first comes up.", "Oh my bad, I guess it was 7th grade then (born in 88)??? Holy shit that was a long time ago pls stop making me feel old", "He even had a pretty nice signature guitar.", "You know those warnings your parents gave you about putting headphones inside your ears?", "I think the rest of them look like white nationalists. He always seemed diffeeent", "I also might just be more sensitive to it since I'm in my 30s now lol. Can't seem to brush off as much punishment as I could when I was 19 =P", "Yea they were terrible, I thought this was common knowledge?", "Energy drink market", "I guess. I'm all for new music, no matter how wacky. My problem is when everyone in this new genre just copies the orginal shamelessly. If you look at your all-time favorite artists, they almost certainly brought something cool and unique within their genre, something that made their music worthwhile to the listener, not just provocation for the sake of pissing off old people. \n\nFor example, the Sex Pistols and the Ramones both launched punk movements on seperate continents, but no one listens to the pistols anymore becauee their music sucked, while the Ramones are iconic and timeless. Being different than the previous generation for its own sake does not necessarily warrant accolades.", "Never fucking knew that.", "Holy crap I completely forgot about Happy Gilmore! Need to rewatch it", "Reminds me of the head vampire in 30 days of night.", "LB is the smashmouth of guys who's life could be summed up as dirt bikes, energy drinks and shitty beards.", "If you want to get a bunch of Millenials in one place quick, have a Limp Bizkit concert….or Eminem", "that album was solid and i will die on that hill", "Iggy Pop helped Bowie get clean. That’s how bad Bowie was off.", "Or when he directed [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtmlHgrxfEc) and had John Travolta play a retard?", "His band/project Black Light Burns was great too\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgDkQmsWgp8", "I said I don't recall *seeing* anything overtly bad happening. I know bad shit happened. I was very far from the stage.", "SO has I’m Broke and Nobody Like You ft. John Davis. Good shit", "This is perfect description.", "John Otto. Possibly the best musician in limp bizkit at the time, and really contributed to their unique sound - a lot of those beats are jazz influenced rather than your standard rock/metal. Maybe more subtle than Wes, but musically really helped set them apart from a lot of other bands at the time.", "You sad sack. 🤣", "Dimebag? From that scummy racist band? Ew.", "I mean, he has his side projects and bands.. if you want him to see in some other band than just LB, you can", "so anyway here's wonderwall", "Wait what? They came back? I assumed this was an old video!", "As Lazer beams shoot from the eyes of the choir!", "Here's the clip: https://youtu.be/tv1urfDXs-o", "The double bass on organ splitter is some of the most insane shit.", "Boiler is in my top 10 songs ever. What a gem of a song within an interesting lineup.", "Again, I get it. Mumble rap, for the record, isn’t my thing at all.\n\nI am constantly reminded of one of my favourite George Carlin quotes having to do with how popularity and accolades are directly linked to the volume of “votes”:\n\n“I have just as much authority as the Pope, I just have fewer people who believe it.”\n\nAnd Eminem:\n\n“Here’s a concept that works, twenty million other white rappers emerge, but no matter how many fish in the sea, it feels so empty without me.”", "Its just too hard to tell when in the midst of it. There's always been more chaff than wheat in 'current' music. Once the truly horrible stuff falls by the wayside, there will only be the gems* left.\n\nas in the best examples of the genre", "Thats why he made his own band ‘Big Dumb Face’. Check it out!", "Drill has origins in Chicago (i believe), as a sub-genre of Trap. but then UK Drill emerged as a unique flavor by mixing some UK Grime with artists like Stormzy. one of the identifying characteristics of a UK Drill song is the sliding bassline. then the UK Drill sound came back to the states and mixed with \"mumble rap\" as NY Drill, with artists like Pop Smoke.\n\nthe pop-punk resurgence has been bubbling for a few years, but i think it's primed to get bigger (perhaps with more trap in the mix) as rappers like MGK and Trippie Redd embrace it for whole albums (though part of me questions if this is just trend chasing). but there's guys like [Lil Aaron](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDcV6X-_wi8) who are based in this sound and make me question what decade we're in. i've noticed a lot of a younger rappers (under 25) are citing bands like Fall Out Boy and Panic at the Disco as influences, even if their sound isn't explicitly pop-punk.\n\noverall, music has an interesting way of splintering over and over, then looping back as artists try to stay a step ahead of whatever has grown to mass-appeal. the end of a genre really comes when it's splintered into more specific sub-genres that take off, which is what i think happened/is happening to \"mumble rap\" - which itself started as a subgenre of trap with punk and EDM influences.\n\nNOTE: these are just my observations as a casual listener to all genres, i'm not a music historian or too deep into these genres so someone better informed might be able to clarify or provide better examples.", "Let's be honest: it is not really a mosh pit if nobody is moshing. It's cool that he did it, but please don't call that a mosh pit.", "They were a surprise act at download fest in the uk , Justin proceeded to go on stage via the audience, being carried on shields, by burly men dressed as vikings , 10/10 experience", "I saw Chevelle in 06 and groped one of the girls crowd surfing \n\n\n\n\n^^^^^^^^^/s", "I think Wes at some point wanted to play for NIN. He blamed Limp Bizkit for stunting his artistic growth. It always seemed like a love/hate thing.", "Rammstein is something else to see live man, saw them at big day out at Olympic park in Sydney about 10 years ago on a double stage with tool", "I'm willing to bet people find your music awful as well.", "John Otto", "Saw that lineup in Seattle, I'd bought tickets through a local radio station pre-order. All except Mudvayne were some of my favorite bands at the time. Deftones put on a very lazy show, pretty disappointing. But Linkin Park were soooo amazing, honestly even better than Metallica.", "Ah man, this takes me back!", "So why don't you give us a description of your finely honed, exquisite taste in the musical arts?\n\nBetcha it's lame as fuck.", "Not a Bizkit fan, but this was hella cool", "The One and Boiler are soooo good, really different from most LB. They've got such a dark sound to them.", "At least his costumes are interesting", "Big Dumb Face is a much better band led by Wes Boreland.", "Wes played bass on the Heroine album by From First to Last, before Sonny formed Skrillex. Probably my favorite piece of his work.", "big fucking day.\n\ni think our little champ may need a nap after all that learnin'.", "Quite the sausage party here", "^^^^cdeez ^^^^nuts", "> Mr. Biscuit\n\nIsn't that Waffle House mascot's arch nemesis?", "The whole \"nu-metal\" scene died in the mid 2000s. Yeah, some of those bands like Korn are still putting stuff out, but I don't hear it being blasted on car stereos in public anymore.\n\nThen we got some kind of weird lame ass phase of banjo and glitch-rock or some shit. I hate it. There's no energy anymore.", "Bands post 1995 in no order and around the time this shit band was around:\n\nRage against the machine \n\nBlack keys\n\nAnything jack white\n\nNas\n\nRadiohead\n\nStrokes\n\nLincoln park\n\nSmashing pumpkins \n\nTalib kwali\n\nPearl jam\n\nBlink 182\n\n\nAlso thousands of other bands/artist. My music tastes arent relevant. Limp bizkit are just lame and make shit music. Always were always will be. For fuck sake, their lyrical content reeks of axe body spray, ggw vhs tapes and ugly ass jnco jeans.", "I just don't understand why every guy in their 30's basically pretends like we weren't huge fans of Limp Bizkit back in the day. lol", "I can't headbang to any of that lame ass shit. I was right. Except Rage. I'll give you that one.", "how limp was he?", "Dude it's because there's no longer a mainstream sound to metal anymore, so anyone left who's listening to metal tend towards the more pretentious. \n\nAs much as I love Animals as Leaders, Periphery, Chon, etc, nothing compares to the rawness of metal from that generation. My favorite memory was having Gwar rip apart George Bush on stage and me getting covered in blood, only to then mosh the shit out of Lamb of God right after. Then look up an Animals as Leaders concert. They were built different in the 90's and 00's.", "I mean, you did. After a week.", "Matt Heafy going bald is the only sign you need that metal is aging lmao", "I imagine they are probably worse than Nickelback. The only songs I know from either are songs I've been relentlessly force fed. Cant recall a single time in my life where I, my friends or family have ever gone out of our way to listen to limp bizkit or Nickleback.", "Name 20 bands, i have to imagine all 20 bands you name will be better than limp bizkit\n\nI mean i would he happy to include nine inch nails, tool, metallica amd several other bands. I was just typing bands coming to mind. If you like harder stuff, fuck, godsmack, disturbed, slipknot and several other harder bands than limp bizkit and more talented and better than limp bizkit", "I like most of those bands (especially NIN). I also like Limp Bizkit. They aren't lyrical geniuses, their songs aren't that complicated, but there's no denying there's a raw anger there that you can...well..break stuff to.", "Clearly the answer is yes. Your AARP membership is in the mail, along with your blood pressure medication and subscription to Phonograph fanatics quarterly.", "To be honest around that time it probably direct deposited into my account, bringing it to somewhere around $35 after last week's overdraft.", "Honestly most pop music is like this to a large degree. Look at pop country for gods sake. I would take mumble rap over pop country any fucking day. It’s just what happens when you formulate music based purely on mass appeal. I guess it probably stands out to you because either you specifically dislike rap to begin with, and simplifying it for the masses just brought out the worst, or it seems to stand out because it’s basically the newest genre of all of the little cookie-cutter pop sub-genres", "\"My Way\" is a legitimately great song I don't care what anybody says.", "But seriously, even not being able to understand what the artist is saying in the lyrics is not new either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm4YFpO3y7Q\n\nThere are other rappers who employ this style as well.", "You're not lying about that! [This vid \$NSFW\$](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht87NuzMpoA) says it's from the show I was at and it's for sure what I remember. Everyone was shocked to say the least.", "awww man FearFactory really takes me back. Obsolete was so good.", "John Otto was actually a great dude! As was DJ Lethal. I would have written more of the story, but I figured the reddit mob would call bullshit, so I didn't bother. But I will now!\n\nI was 17 and with two of my friends. All 3 of us were huge into that scene just as it was getting popular. Deftones, Fear Factory, Korn, Sevendust, Hed PE, etc. Limp Bizkit and Incubus were playing a dual show at a decent sized club, probably fit ~400 in the main showroom, but well over 1000 on all 3 floors.\n\nMy buddy, Adam, was extremely likeable and outgoing. The kind of dude that cool stuff just seems to happen to. So of course he starts talking to a random guy about tattoos. The conversation eventually turns to drumming, and the guy ends up being Jose Pasillas, the drummer from Incubus! After about 5 minutes, he says \"hey, you guys wanna see the bus?\" And of course we freaked the fuck out and said yes immediately. We get on the tour bus, and it's surprisingly nice for how not-yet-famous they were. It wasn't Will Smith nice, but wasn't a shitshow like the bus from Almost Famous either.\n\nWe met the whole band, and we even got to play Jet Moto on the PlayStation with Brandon and DJ Lyfe. They had a supersoaker on one of the couches, and we suggested they squirt the crowd with it because people would love it. Later, during the show, Brandon grabs it from backstage and yells into the mic, \"this is for my bus buddies from earlier\" and goes ham on everyone. It was unreal!\n\nCut to after the show, tons of people hanging out front, trying to meet the band members, get autographs, etc. My buddy Adam recognizes John Otto and says \"hey, Incubus let us on their bus and we played video games. You don't want to get outdone by your opening act, do ya?\" Sly motherfucker, this dude.\n\nJohn says \"fuck that noise, c'mon.\" And he walks us around the corner on, boom, suddenly we're on Limp Bizkit's bus! This one is all red and black with chandeliers like a gaudy champagne room. We hung out for a bit, got everyone's autographs, and then went home the happiest kids in Scranton.\n\nVery few people believed a goddamned word of the story unless all 3 of us were telling it together. I think once they could see the excitement on our faces, they'd think \"fucking A, these cunts actually did* get on those busses, didn't they?\" Overall, it was a fucking amazing night, probably one of the coolest experiences of my life at the time.\n\n(I just looked it up, too. It was actually 1998.)", "I'm rather partial to Kali Is the Sweethog, but there are some real knee slappers on there.\n\n> There's something in the heart of Lord Kali \nKali lights the children's heads on fire, \nand causes disease to spread, \nbut Kali is our friend, \nand Kali is the sweethog.", "i expected him playing in the middle of a circle pit. now that wouldve been epic.", "They were a Meme even when they came out back in the day. Nobody was like \"Wow Smash Mouth is awesome.\" We laughed at them even then.", "Awesome, Ty for the summary!", "Rock rap = tin foil", "Any more recommendations??", "People bought lemons to a concert just in case?", "Literal chills leading up to the drop.", "Well, seniors have a tendency to get tuckered out easily.", "What woman would listen to limp biz kit? Let alone attend the concert", "Wes can shred too. I have a Roland JC120 that I pair with a tube amp and only recently learned Wes had a similar setup. Dude has sweet tone despite me not really liking LB at all.", "He was limp bizkit", "In this video everything went ok. Never underestimate the stupidity of some people once they start drinking though.\n\nIt's a cool performance piece by limp Bizkit though and I'm sure the people around Wes will have fond memories of it. Hell I'd love to be there close up.", "Wow they suck", "Duke Lion!", "Yeah he can\nhttps://youtu.be/KwzgIPHdosY", "Limp Bizkit still performs?", "That’s MC Beats keeping it Kurupt\n\n108.9 on your dial yeah", "Props to the crowd for knowing pit etiquette. Very cool.", "The median age looks to be about 35. That’s too many middle age men with teen angst to not at least make up most of the future proud boys collective.", "can someone Google that for me please?", "Hey everyone, when was this?", "Hey I have those shorts", "Ozzy", "Lol!! BIG MISTAKE", "I love “lie” but tbh I’ve never listened to the entire album. Think I’m gonna do that now lol", "He's the durst to my hunger", "Okay, i hear this a lot but i have yet to hear anything he's played that wowed me. Same with John 5...like, i just dont hear anything that makes me think they would be worth being called underrated. His songwriting ability is good cause theyre songs can be catchy, buuut thats all i can think of.", "Bruh. Dime was a fuckin homie to fans everywhere. Ohhh Anselmo sucks so Pantera is just a racist band, gtfoh.", "amazing", "Oh lord bathe me in flame", "He did Undertaker's music and performed at that year's WrestleMania. Still funny though.", "I live on the other side of Charlotte and drive though there to an even worse place fucking Shelby to work. It's just all down hill once you leave Charlotte lmao.", "Yeah it is. It just lost its form once he entered because everyone got excited.", "Always thought they looked like a bunch of guys that had just stepped out of a red pick up, and Wes looked like he’d just stepped off the mothership.", "You have indeed won the battle of wits!", "I feel like any risks that used to prevent artists from doing stuff like this are irrelevant now given all the fans will just be standing there with their phones out", "Don't care what anyone says, Limp Bizkit was and is awesome.", "I guess you weren't alive or really young in in the late 90s / early 00s, every girl I knew had the hots for Fred Durst.", "I was there when i was 16. Im so glad i could go it was amazing", "Yeah fuck Gastonia", "My favorite and most treasured CD. I swear I spent 3 days watching it non stop just from how awesome that concert was. My 15 y/o self couldn't afford to go to the real thing.", "I've been slammed with some bad luck, soon I'ma gonna bring you doom with the buck.\n\nThe year was 1998, I was headed to yearbook camp (don't say a fucking word) and we stopped at a mall and I picked up Garbage's 2.0, Beastie Boys' Hello Nasty and Three Dolla Bill Y'all from the Sam Goody. Now I'm pushing 40. Where did the time go?", "I love Wes Borland so much", "For real man. I'm on 40s doorstep too. Scary shit", "I break a lot of stuff around the house trying to fix things.", "[I sent this to a mate earlier in the year and he loved all of it, as did I.](https://www.maniacsonline.com.au/news/the-rapid-rise-again-of-nu-metal-in-australia)", "Yeah, I was expecting an actual pit, not just in the middle of the crowd. Cool anyways", "> shitty Nu Metal riffs\n\nwhat? he writes fucking great riffs. That's 70% of the reason LB blew up", "Whatever your opinion of Fred Durst and Limp Bizkit is, you can't not love Wes Borland.", "Awesome. Thank you!!!", "You should try going to the Wal Mart in Gastonia. How employees arent killing themselves in there is beyond me.", "Not a problem. I think Fred Durst said it best, \"music is key, it's the way we're set free, from all this world is throwing at me\", music is the best form of entertainment to me.", "Powerman 5000 takes me back", "No, I don't think I will.", "For anyone who wants an album recommendation give Crystal Machete a try. Wes Borland wrote it as a soundtrack for an 80's film that doesn't exist.\n\nAnd it's quite good!", "give me something to drink!", "Doesn't that guy do special effects videos on YouTube?", "Facts!", "Me too. Oh, and RTJ was added to the RATM show after the first postponement. And there's the Rammstein show that's also been delayed 2x. Gonna be nuts.", "lol you don't know wtf you're talking about", "it was Superjoint iirc", "Oh here let me explain.\n\nSmash Mouth wasnt popular even in the 90's.", "thanks for the explanation. too bad it's completely fucking incorrect lol.\n\nI was born in 1989 and had my mom buy the first record for me in 1997. walking on the sun was a huge radio hit. you should try to function within the confines of reality once in a while.\n\nif you're trying to say they were always a shrek style 'meme band', you're also wrong -- my mom straight up almost returned the record due to the language on it (the fact smash mouth had a parental advisory sticker on their first release is hilarious in hindsight). \n\nThey were pretty obviously one of the many ska-punk bands in the 90s that changed their style so they could chase the $$$. besides, the guy you were talking to was clearly talking about their local band days.\n\nyou'd honestly have a better argument and somewhat of a point if you just straight up said that all ska from that era was meme music.", "I was at 2004 or 05 Gwar, Lamb of God, etc ...The singer from Clutch gave me a fat lip by accident, dude was in his own little thrashing headbang zone and I just wandered into it like the dumb kid I was. He apologized, made sure I wasn't actually hurt and just went back to his jamming out to Gwar.", "or threw real punches and the naturally occuring team of massive bearded men stomped them into a puddle. Basically yes.", "It's the same in the US, ime. Heavy metal and shit, everyone is cool. Punky and thrashier shit, there are always a few wild cards that are throwing elbows or fists at everyone... but they usually don't last the entire show before someone bigger shows up and teaches them a lesson in physics.", "hhaha no shit! yea! I was there too! GWARs prop penis was broken and only spraying a purple mist. Ended up getting a Gwar VHS too lol. \n\nWhen clutch was playing, me and the buds took a 20 minute nap in the stands haha. \n\nThats wild you got a fat lip by the singer. Didnt think they would be out in the crowd, but goes to show you how cool these bands are.\n\nThat was one hell of a concert", "Fun is fun, homie. Don't let people keep you from fun or you'll just end up surrounded by boring fucks who do nothing but complain about being bored.", "Are you 10?", "I've seen some of the least likely people in the worst-looking mosh pits, and somehow they come out completely unscathed. For how violent people can be I was amazed at how that happened.", "Your story was long enough I had to brace myself for some shittymorph halfway through.", "I don't know what shittymorph is. Sorry for the length, though! It's a memory I hadn't thought about in years, and I completely went to town with it. Once the nostalgia train departed, there was no stopping it, lol", "tl;dr", "VOD!! Such an underrated band.... I still play that self titled album all the time", "It's a user on reddit who posts elaborate responses like they are a subject matter expert, then the last paragraph is an Undertaker-Mankind-hell-in-a-cell wrestling meme. Something about 15 feet through the announcers table?", "lol, that's awesome, now I kinda wish I did that!", "Fuck I'd love to go see Rage live", "Ah gotcha. Either way, I'm happy for this resurgence personally.", "the tl;dr is you're a waste of sperm and eggs and you should have been a cumstain on your parents sheets", "tl;dr", "Are you old and bitter?", "For me, it's the insurrection part. Personally, I can't stand the band.", "r/killthecameraman", "I had to listen to that. Wow… that does sound like Turnstile lmao", "Agreed. I still know most the lyrics.", "Your mouth is writing checks that your ass can't cash.", "Yeah! Those people were under his control and can't be held responsible for their actions at all.\n\nFred gonna have to take the blame for all of our sins like a nu-metal backwards hat wearing Jesus in DC shoes. He did it all for the Holy Nookie." ]	870	videos	Wes Borland of Limp Bizkit, playing their song "Break Stuff" in the middle of a mosh pit
https://youtu.be/s2PmIeSdwIQ	/r/videos/comments/qclc8s/i_made_a_thing_i_replaced_the_music_in_the/	[ "Very nice :)", "If it weren't for the horrible formatting this would be an 11 out of 10. \nAs it is, I can only give it 10/10. Or is it 5/7? Great job!", "I like it.", "i formatted it for multiple platforms for the cellphone viewing audience focus", "Sorry for viewing it on my PC. My bad. 11/10 it is!", "No, you just made it impossible to watch properly on any platform 🤷‍♂️", "2 comments -\n\n1) Who is doing all the screaming after the explosion in the bank? You've established that the scene is at night, and that the bank is closed, so it's a bit incongruous.\n\n2) Having the thunder sound effect directly under the lightning is a little off - the lightning is quite distant, so a delayed peal of thunder, with a bit more build would work better I think.\n\nOther than that, bang up job!", "Watched it on my phone, looked great. Unless my phone isn't a platform for some reason.", "So, it was fullscreeen, right? Or was the video just a quarter of your screen? Because its lose-lose either way you watch thee video, vertical or horizontal.\n\nhttp://imgur.com/gallery/0Ne2ovn", "That was a crisp explosion 10/10", "Vertical watch, youtube app automatically had it take up bout 3/4 of the screen. I can see how this would look bad not on a phone, but on the phone it looked how it was meant to.", "So.... vertically watching a horizontal video with no option to just flip it around and watch it properly??\n\nHonestly fuck technology and fuck social media, when everything changes again the stuff produced now is going to date extremely rapidly 🤷‍♂️.", "This is great. It also really shows how well directed and economical the visual story telling is in that sequence that it doesn't require music to drive it or sustain it.", "What do you do to get an explosion sound in foley?", "Use sound clips and Foley library", "Very cool, thanks for the hit of nostalgia. One little nit pick...the sound for the lightning should have been delayed slightly!", "Not in animated shows actually. its a long running thing that lightning and thunder happen at the same time unless specifically stated in the show.", "> its a long running thing \n\nI know and it always bothered me so #letsmakelightningandthunderrealisticincartoons", "Nice job!", "Suspend disbelief", "The lightning was definitely off", "Holy fuck, you're an asshole control freak.\n\nYou make it next time!", "1.) Its stock library sound\n\n2.) Animation sound tends to do that with lightning as you don't have the same constraints of reality and limited time to do sound.", "Sound Foley Library collection is fun", "tried syncing the 2 for the hell of it\nhttps://viewsync.net/watch?v=s2PmIeSdwIQ&t=3&v=rrmUk2YUm14&t=0&mode=solo\nmay have to play with the audio a little", "I've been around long enough to know that catering to fads dates your work and compromises the integrity of the media.\n\nYour foley work on this was absolutely exceptional, no doubt, but it'd be a thrill to watch it fullscreeen on something, anything, ever.", "Amazing job! Wouldn't doubt you if you said you did this stuff professionally.\n\nOne thing seemed entertainingly off tho. Batman's squinting eyes are one of the only moving things that have no associated sound. Of course they don't. I know. But I was thinking about what sounds would be most and least appropriate or, from a comedic stand point, hilarious. Slide whistle? Fart? Him cartoonishly going \"hmmmmm...\"?\n\nThough it was funny", "i actually am going to edit this from requests on imgur to add comical sounds for the eyes. Usually the music would kick in there for dramatic effect, like a violin long pull or drum sweeps", "I can always edit it again but this is meant for the here and now", "You do realize you can.. gasp.. turn the phone over, right? 16:9 videos are already optimized for phones.", "This post a 4:3 video jammed into the top of a vertical (9:16 ish) video so that if you go vertical you've got a quarter of the screen filled, if you go horizontal it's a joke (~1/64 of the screen) and if you're on a desktop and want to fill the screen you are totally boned. \n\nBoth options 🤷‍♂️ :\n\nhttp://imgur.com/gallery/0Ne2ovn", "Creaking leather or rubber.", "Love\nThis\nSo\nMuch", "thanks", "i'm not gonna lie. I don't know if i will ever be able to do this for a job but i got a little teary eyed watching it synced together. It worked well on top of each other." ]	35	videos	I made a thing, I replaced the music in the opening of Batman The Animated Series with just Foley Sounds
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qclpgy/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qclpgy/deleted_by_user/	[ "Every time I see something about Horatio Nelson I'm reminded that he named his daughter Horatia.", "Fuck Nelson. Napoleon 4 ever.", "You wouldn't catch Nigel Lawson doing anything like that", "Good god that man's voice is annoying.", " Rather than bury his body at sea, a quick-thinking Irish surgeon preserved it in a cask of brandy lashed to the deck of the ship." ]	5	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtube.com/watch?v=4GGyQNMPDkk&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/qclub0/steven_wright_delivers_in_this_fantastic_first/	[ "Who's Carson Tonig?", "One of the most underrated legends ever is the guy on the couch. Love me some Steven", "When he mentions the guy asking him to be on the Tonight Show, I expected him to say that it seemed like short notice.", "What the fuck is this audience? Cheering and whistling? I call huge bullshit. Smug asshole bombs imho. \n \nEDIT: \nHi you little shits :D cute, how I am your world for the time of your commenting :) \nGood, good. I like the guy to be honest. Maybe it's just because it's from 1982, but it's pretty lame comedy. My opinion anyways.", "They had to cut it short because you can't say that word.", "That dude who used to have that Daily show on MTV where they played the top 10 requested videos of the week.", "Too bad he didn’t bomb lol", "I don't think there's a better one-liner comedian out there.", "Mitch Hedberg was pretty good", "And many years later - https://youtu.be/lmmeDkS4-Kg?t=2", "Carson Tonig, The Gin King of West Appaloosa. His posse keep broken pool cues in they back pocket.", "They have a video of him being all nervous in the dressing room as well.", "You could tell he bombed by all the cheering?", "I used to worship this guy when I was in high school, even got to meet him.", "Awesome. Did you chat a bit?", "I was 17. My first experience of being 'star struck'. He took his pen and starting drawing on the wall as I stood and stared. Was really weird, his limo driver had two obvious prostitutes with him that were totally hideous. Not sure what the plan was there. So I got my autograph and left.", "Amazing! What year was this, if you don't mind?", "in 1993. I was fully in high school and it was the most ambitious trip I had ever taken, to go to that theater. I liked his material, way, way, too much. But now I look back and realize it was because he was the only thing weird in a time in America where there wasn't much media for people who liked 'weird' humor. \n\nNow I'm fully a weirdo and it's great. \n\nI was there with my girlfriend and after the show I insisted we walk around back. I saw a guy at a door and asked if Stephen would be coming out this door, he said \"not for a long time,\" and I said I'd wait. He rolled his eyes and brought me backstage. Just this dank, concrete room with the limo driver and prostitutes. And two 16 year olds. \n\nHe signed my ticket, which was glossy, so it immediately smeared into illegibility, but I was ok with that.", "He’s a comedy legend while you’re just some dude getting downvoted into oblivion", "Is that on Youtube?", "I just did a quick check and I don't see it.\n\nI watched it on the Tonight Show back in the 80s.\n\nMaybe it was before his second appearance?" ]	21	videos	Steven Wright Delivers In This Fantastic First Appearance - Carson Tonig...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WItUr-qHHBw	/r/videos/comments/qclv3h/a_few_friends_and_i_made_a_short_horror_film/	[ "I like. Is good. Make me scared. My dad was named Charles Johnson was my dad.", "Looks like a lot of fun. That fall though 😂", "Get the man an Oscar 😂" ]	3	videos	A few friends and I made a short 'horror' film based off the game Phasmophobia and I wanted to share it with someone!
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qcmho3/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qcmho3/deleted_by_user/	[ "There's no genius in being so dismissive about the deaths of almost 700,000 American lives like he's doing. His lies are killing people.", "GeNiUs", "ok, Dr. Doctor. Thank you." ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vPJ5jZ7Wdq4&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/qcms7y/did_this_guy_invent_topspin_and_modern_sliding/	[ "Invent? No. Discover? Maybe.", "Perhaps invent was the wrong word, but were there other tennis players regularly hitting topspin groundstrokes before him?", "I have no idea that's why I put the maybe...I'm too tired to look into it honestly. And wasn't your original question if he invented (discovered) topspin? Why's it more specific now?", "nice one." ]	4	videos	Did this guy invent topspin and modern sliding?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65zvlqY3_Eo	/r/videos/comments/qcmt8d/the_title_of_dune_in_danish_is_what_now/	[ "this title 🥴", "There's a dune in Denmark called \"Karens Klit\".", "Klit is also the Danish short word for clitoris, so there is not much news in that the regard for us.", "A woman I knew was a environmental researcher working on dunes. She was a lesbian, making the connection even funnier.", "Sounds like a feature not a bug." ]	5	videos	The title of "Dune" in Danish is WHAT NOW???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk0IIdJwbKg	/r/videos/comments/qcnxlg/the_90s_were_absolutely_wild_atmosfear_video/	[ "I remember playing this at a friend's house when I was young and being scared shirtless (autocorrect can have that one) by this game. We could never understand how to play it properly but it still freaked me out.", "Omg i loved that game as a kid with my older cousins. That dude was scary as hell lol.", "That gravelly voice. It's so good.", "https://youtu.be/tYc273hUBJ8\nA little different take on this.\nKnew this and not the origional", "I have owned this game for years and cannot get one friend to play it with me.", "I'm so happy to know that this is still around. Maybe it's time for a remaster", "I actually had this game when I was younger. We played it maybe three or four times and then it just got repetitive.\n\n\nIt was definitely scary the first couple times and a lot of fun with friends. Haven’t thought about it in probably over a decade but recognized the Gatekeeper’s face immediately.", "I have no idea why it popped into my head. Happy to bring some nostalgia back for people.", "I have two copies of this still. One on DVD and one on PAL VHS. Fun game to break out this time of year!", "Is the dvd one upscale? Or is just the same but on dvd?", "There was one called nightmare that was like this", "It's a different recording entirely. The VHS version is darker and more aggressive, the Gatekeeper is more intimidating. The DVD version isn't as tense but does randomize the game as it can skip between chapters on the disc. It's a different actor with a different script though. This clip you've posted is the intro to the original.", "Where did you get it? Been looking for a copy of this or Nightmare forever but it's obviously out of production.", "Interesting. I'll have to see if I can find copies somewhere for next Halloween", "He's a beast at staring contests.", "Oh my god!!! This game!!! Thanks for posting this. I loved this game. Ahh this strangely brought a nostalgia smile to my face!", "That's one of my favourite types of smiles.", "Lol you can vicariously experience playing it with this video https://youtu.be/2lJYFLvjkuo it always cracked me up.", "It’s back… https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/183490383/atmosfear-video-board-game-30th-anniversary-edition", "Wow. Holy shit wow." ]	20	videos	The 90s were absolutely wild. Atmosfear video board game advert.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LZo9ugJTWQ	/r/videos/comments/qcp19c/do_you_love_me_are_you_playing_your_love_games/	[ "Oh hell no. Not this idiot again.", "You could have just said Old Gregg", "Oh YEAH! Wanna come to a club where people wee on each other?", "Imagine my surprise after watching the latest season of British bake off and hearing Noel Fielding say that he was old Greg.", "Ever drink Baileys from a shoe?", "Easy there fuzzy little man peach.", "Fucking Old Gregg and the Crack Fox. Fucking hateful fucks.", "Don't forget the Hitcher!", "No :(", "Is he christ???", "Wow, that is like a 1p resolution.", "Happy Cake Day!", "it’s just a basic back-comb structure framed with a cheeky fringe", "Do ya want to go to a club where people wee on each other?", "In some religions. All the good ones, I mean.", " Mmmm creamy beige", "Your lines in my head motha licka", "At least post the full video! You left out The Funk!\n\n[https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xz1pqk](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5rg8i)", "No shit!? I was watching this thinking \"man that's some serious Noel Fielding vibes\".", "Audio doesn't sync towards the end. Messes with my downstairs mixup.", "I did it to myself this morning and misery loves company. You're welcome.", "Crack Fox by the same group is hilarious also.", "I say this at least once every two weeks IRL conversations.", "Easy now, fuzzy little man peach.", "Ready\n\nSet\n\nBaaaaaake\n\nEdit: I’m surprised I haven’t been attacked for absolutely butchering the line haha.", "There was this big study done and they found out people who don't like the Mighty Boosh aren't fully human.", "Lol I just cannot stand that character.", "Do ya love me?\n\nCould ya learn to love me?", "Decade and a half. Tops. And yes it's funny.", "That even leaves out some at the end. Doesn't he leave/get rescued and when they start driving away in their van, the camera pans up and you see Old Greg standing on the top of the van.", "Blew my mind when I learned this", "god. this bring back memories.", "Could ya learn to love me?", "The fact that the actor playing old greg is a regular host for The Great British bake off still boggles the mind. But I love it.", "The Mighty Boooooooosh", "This was one of the first videos that went viral that was a bfd at my school. I think I first saw it on ebaums world lmao", "I sing this to my cat on a regular basis.", "Easy there fuzzy little man peach.", "Ever drink Baileys from a shoe?", "except no one ever posts or references literally a single shred of Mighty Boosh content other than fucking old greg though lol I'd feel confident saying that around 95% of old greg fans haven't actually watched a full episode of The Mighty Boosh (at least in America)", "I don't know. Depends on how you feel about the Bengals lol", "I don't know how the people on that show aren't constantly quoting lines to him. Probably licensing...", "I do watercolors.", "Hee hee." ]	45	videos	Do you love me? Are you playing your love games with me?
https://youtu.be/W1PsIIjBI4k	/r/videos/comments/qcp5g0/gabriel_eltaebs_video_why_i_left_dc_comics/	[ "who cares?", "So why did he leave DC Comics? No where in the video does he say anything about it. It tries to be all emotional but is no substance. It is just him trying to make emotional statements about \"Look at there heroes, I am a like these heroes. Merica!\"\n\nDude (Gabriel Eltaeb), you aren't a fucking hero. You aren't standing up to tyrants. You draw comics and quit because you didn't want to draw a bi character.", "Omg superman can't be gay!", "*leaving because they removed “…and the American Way” from Superman’s motto.\n\nSo- snowflake.", "This video is so ironic on so many levels. \n\"Fuck tyranny!\" \n\"I love nationalism!\" \n\"Fuck your invasive opinions and cultures!\" \n\"I'm a second generation immigrant, please listen and look at my family's culture and heritage!\"\n\nDude you can't have both. Otherwise it just makes you look like an asshole.", "What a little bitch." ]	6	videos	Gabriel Eltaeb's video "Why I left DC comics"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raYyKM9wQAc	/r/videos/comments/qcpdv3/limmy_reacts_to_jeff_bezos_mugging_off_william/	[ "Sooooooooo agreed with this in real time…. I was thinking what an arrogant sick Jeff was!!", "Jeff did give Shatner his full attention for about ten minutes afterwards, but that first bit with the champagne was bad. I wonder if Jeff realised too late how arrogant he appeared in that moment, and that's why he had more time for Shatner afterwards, to try and make up for it?", "Did you see the shove when Shatner got to the bottom of the stairs by the guy behind him? He stumbled a bit and recomposed himself. A 90 year old could die from a fall. The guy behind gave an old man a shove so he could go and cuddle bezos for a minute. FFS\n\nWatching this I had the same commentary in my head as this guy is giving. Show some damn respect to Shatner.", "well said!" ]	4	videos	Limmy Reacts to Jeff Bezos mugging off William Shatner
https://youtu.be/aQsaB8_kClQ	/r/videos/comments/qcpwa4/honest_makeup_commercials/	[ "Awesome beat and funny skit. The last part of that video is a great example of why women aren't funny. Although I'm sure this was created and done by a woman they have a habit of congratulating themselves after a good joke too much. It's equivalent to making a really hard shot, then bragging about it for 10 minutes. Or turning around after an explosion.", "Yikes.", "CaN i JuSt SaY tHaT bArBiE qUiEfF iS mY fAvOraT tHiNg NoW. Classic jokes about vaginas. Really ground breaking stuff.", "A Thread on reddit about a womans sketch and the comment section is already garbage.", "The skit is funny because it points out the flaws and ridiculousness of shit geared toward female audiences. How predictable and repetitive it is. Yet fails at the end when it succumbs to the very thing it was trying to point out and parody.", "That was perfect! Just, no fat, all meat, perfect parody. Love it!", "Sometimes, less is more. You should have stopped after your first sentence.", "Awesome comment and insightfull reply because it points out the flaws and ridiculousness of reddit comments. How predictable and repetitive it is. Yet fails at the end when it succumbs to the very thing it was trying to point out and parody.", "Yea, because my comment is usually so well recieved in the hive. Nobody is honest anymore.", "“Barbie Queef”", "Reddit comment sections on anything with a \"female\" are IQ eroding.", "When they were riffing on terminology I was getting heavy George Carlin vibes at that part. Love it.", "Barbie Queef? Sick reference girl, you're references are out of control, everybody knows that", "Let's see your material. I'm sure it's way better than what A WOMAN COULD COME UP WITH!\n\nProbably just a dick joke that you'd think was amazing without realizing the irony, because you sound like a nitwit... and a cunt!\n\nHave a shitty day!", "I'm going to go ahead and continue to have a great day. You should relax and try to enjoy the rest of yours.", "Lilly Singh oof. How many times can she make the same joke. \"Why get this thing when you can get the same thing but worded differently\"", "Yeah and the meat is a dead horse, beating it for two minutes with the same delivery of a joke over and over.", "4/10, not “eMpOwErInG” enough. How am I supposed to base my self-worth on this?!", "Lame....", "https://youtu.be/6cMIRwNdHtE", "> How predictable and repetitive it is. \n\nThat's... not the joke. Even a little bit. No wonder you're so confused. \\wooosh\\", "This is the part where I ask you to explain it then, and the part where you decline because of some sassy reason.", "Is that Lily Singh?\n\nWHAT YEAR IS IT??!?!?!?!?!", "The punchline of the joke is literally in the video: \"there is no new makeup\", yet makeup companies are constantly launch new lines to generate sales. This puts them in the position of literally making shit up to create the impression that it's new, like calling an applicator \"our new Felt Tip Micro Expresser®\". It's funny like laughably transparent political double speak or Star Trek techno babble. The joke is not that its repetitive, it's the opposite: the lengths they go to avoid the impression that they're repeating themselves -- it's not literally the same product, this one has the word \"New\" on it! \n\nThis is the part where you come up with some bullshit rationalization for why you were downvoted, like \"nobody is honest any more\", rather than realizing you're an idiot who has to have jokes explained to him.", ">repetitive\n\nMeaning its the same shit over and over. You dumb fuck.\n\nYou really tried hard to make it sound like it's not what I just said it was. YOU are an example of this very joke. \n\nDumb fuck.", "Lily Singh is the worse", "> repetitive\n\nThe rest of that sentence: \"the joke is not that its repetitive\"\n\nDumb fuck, indeed. Learn to read.", "It’s a compilation of different videos I reckon", "She did almost ruin it with the bit at the end. No idea why they thought that was a good idea.", "You're a moron. She's saying that makeup commercials do the same thing over and over again. How are you this fucking stupid?\n\nSame product, same lies, same tricks and gimmicks. Are you pretending to be a retard just to argue or something? \n\nbUt ItS nOt ThE SaMe It SaYs NeW tHo!! \n\nYea, they always say new. That's the joke. \n\nFucking retard.", "> She's saying that makeup commercials do the same thing over and over again.\n\nNope. That's not the joke. \\woooosh\\" ]	34	videos	Honest makeup commercials
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS8RHIbSIRw&ab_channel=hossam	/r/videos/comments/qcqphn/thief_snatches_the_phone_of_a_reporter_while_hes/	[ "What an asshole.", "I agree! Vertical videos are the worst!", "LPT: when someone is live-streaming a video on Facebook they likely are NOT a reporter.", "Fucking scum.", "Facebook...im sorry but thats not a reporter", "A reporter is someone who reports on stuff, not a particular platform or tool they use, no matter how pedestrian or stupid that platform might be.\n\nIDK whether this guy is a reporter, but simply using facebook isn't enough to disqualify him.", "I feel like middle eastern news outlets could have these kind of reporters", "My local news reporters are often live-streaming videos on Facebook.", "But… that ruins my joke! Have an upvote for ruining my joke. 😀", "New to social media?", "Prime example of why people need to leave their mothers basement right here boys/gals/those undecided.", "https://www.cjr.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/News-Media-Consultation-Form_FPF-FOIA-1536x766.jpg", "exactly.", "Because Facebook/phone users couldn't turn their device sideways to watch a video, of horizontal cars and street, like all the horizontally oriented screens of the past, for our horizontally oriented eyes.", "Glad to hear you woke up from your five year coma!", "Exactly. This was shot in Egypt, and is part of a new report by a local news agency.", "In Egypt (where this video is shot), it is normal for news reporters covering \"sudden\" incidents to live stream on Facebook instead of having a full crew.\n\nIn this case, a 6.6 degree earthquake had just hit Cairo and the reporter was filming the situation on the roads.", "Well his face got seen by 25k people watching the live stream and he was caught shortly after (span of 3 days IIRC).", "Thank fuck for that. Can't have people like that running around doing whatever they want." ]	19	videos	Thief Snatches The Phone of a Reporter While He's Livestreaming a Broadcast on Facebook
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIK-jFvhMq8	/r/videos/comments/qcr2g4/the_problem_with_hitler_jokes/	[ "I don’t get it, Hitler is made fun of endlessly by everyone everywhere all the time? Why would Paramount tell them not to run it again? Was it just a bad Hitler joke? Was it that the audience was too rowdy and ruined the joke?\n\nIt didn’t sound worth canceling at all.", "[And then Norm Macdonald comes out like a mad man and makes tons of Hitler jokes.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAzRb_lErFw)", "I really hope his show gets better because right now it’s both less funny than Jon Oliver’s show and less educational. \n\nI did enjoy him grilling the head of the VA in the first episode but episode 2 was so rough, it should have either focused on masks/vaccines and risked being hacky or focused on the dissident panel which would risk being too heavy.\n\nI just don’t understand who the comedy is aimed at, centrist boomers? Who’s genuinely itching with anticipation for two weeks to listen to a shallow takedown of “the economy”? The topics are just way too vague.", ">Hitler is made fun of endlessly by everyone everywhere all the time?\n\nClearly that's not true.\n\nImagine getting a new show and trying to make 9/11 jokes.\n\nEven now there are people that don't want to see Hitler trivialized, he's a mass murderer.", "I miss him so much. The world got a little less funny when he passed away.\n\nEdit: spelling", "Well, he Ordered the mass killings, I’m not sure Hitler took part in the actual executions. He also loved animals dearly. He couldn’t stand seeing photos or video of animals being hurt. So there’s that.", "It's produced by Apple, did you really think they were going to let him tear at corporate America? He's there for the paycheck.", "k den", "Lmao are you really defending Hitler rn?", "Defending him? No. I’m making sure Factual statements are being said here. It was a Fact that he ordered those killings. It is a Fact that he loved animals.\n\nI am trolling, however. I think this shit is mother fuckin Hilarious.\n\nIt really enlightens my day to make Hitler jokes. It’s the best.", "Don't cut yourself on that edge /r/Cringetopia is that way." ]	11	videos	The Problem With Hitler Jokes
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qcrczw/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qcrczw/deleted_by_user/	[ "Ooh, it's the hot witch girl from the Sabrina show.", "looks terrible", "I've seen worse", "Oh sweet! This looks like it's going to be fun! I always liked [Nathan Fillion](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5CZQpqF_74) in the role, but I dig the younger cast as well. They're pulling off some neat stunts!", "I’m Victor “Gatdamn” Sullivan, say hello to your mother for me." ]	6	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/1xPxnuLk-JA	/r/videos/comments/qcsh0d/100_modern_soldiers_vs_20000_spartans_ultimate/	[ "No need to reload", "The riflemen would want to increase the distance, and the stabby bois would have encircled. What backwards call of duty pageantry is this?", "I'm happy that this was the outcome :)", "you don't carry 7million rounds in your pocket?", "It's hilarious to think that somebody spent a lot of time coding this \"simulator\".", "IF." ]	6	videos	100 MODERN SOLDIERS vs 20.000 SPARTANS \| Ultimate Epic Battle Simulator - YouTube
https://youtu.be/lVHx_UMhkYw	/r/videos/comments/qcsqcy/south_park_fedex/	[ "Lol \"Jews!\"", "This episode literally couldn't have predicted the future better.", "Hahahahaha, just watched the documentary on HBO about the siege on the Capitol. Was trying to cheer myself up after, this is extremely spot on honestly.", "I totally agree with this sentiment. There are so many who are just dumb and don't realize it. Still, their feelings of entitlement have just been perpetuated by all the media they consume, so if someone on TV says some batshit crazy thing they agree with, they feel validation.\n\nI will say, what I think is more insidious is, so many evangelicals and religious types have ingrained in them completely and utterly believing in gods, spirits, the supernatural, that they take that into the real world. If I can believe that God parted the Red Sea, then I can believe that there is a Dem pedophile sex ring, Lizard people, stolen election, microchips in vaccines. \n\nBut what's even more depressing is that, these people are part of the fabric of society. There will always be dumb people, who blindly and willingly follow some person, doctrine, conspiracy theory, movement. They are here, and they will not go away. And we, as a species, will probably kill ourselves before we can evolve past the dumb part of human evolution.", "I used to work for a bank. We had a customer who would cash checks and write \"fuck the fed\" on the comment line on his checks. I told him the federal government has nothing to do handling his check transaction, nobody in the federal government is ever going to see his message.\n\nEdit: For those of you who believe that in 20 years of banking experience I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. 1. I was there, I spoke to the customer, he didn't know shit about the Federal Reserve. 2. When someone writes a check for \"Cash\" drawn on their own bank account AT the bank at which there account is, that check is posted to that customer's account in batch that evening. The check is encoded by the proof operators at that same bank and NOT handed off to the ACH (Automated Clearing House). The Fed (AKA: Federal Reserve, Federal Government, etc.) never sees that check. BUT... Even if he had negotiated the check outside the bank where he had an account, unless they are written for very large amounts, the processing of them will be completely automated so again NOBODY at any federal agency is going to physically look at his check. Some of you have reminded me that I forgot to dumb-down my comments for you \"experts\" out there.", "fuck the fed", "They're not seeing your comment either.", "Fuck Kyle!", "Ok, Kyle heard that.", "Randy turning right wing is kinda BS, dude was always the opposite.", "Im guessing this was in response to the group of ya'llqaeda who took over a bird preserve for...some reasons\n\n?", "Well the Fed is also not run by the government. It’s a private institution like American Express", "Randy is into whatever makes him feel like the center of attention that day, or let's him justify doing what he wants. Past that I don't think he's too invested.", "Yea when they made Cartman a ginger I stopped watching. I can't believe they made randy a republican. \n\nEDIT I'm aware that was only for one episode.", "Randy being back and forth is on brand for him.", "Which episode is this?", "You know that was only for a episode right?", "No I think this was when South Park Elementary School put inches of height gained on a bulletin board and Eric mistook it for being their penis sizes. This evolved until the surgeon general had a graph of what sizes were considered small dicks and which were “well endowed”. The people who burned down FedEx were all told they had tiny dicks and formed the Pissed off and Angry Party.", "We are a country of very stupid people.", "It’s T.M.I., Season 15, Episode 4", "I sure did.", "It did happen. There was a bunch of rednecks that took over a bird sanctuary or something similar up north", "Maybe he was just hungry and jealous of people with enough food to get fed full meals?", "Once a ginger always a ginger, is probably what he's thinking. So much prejudice these days", "It makes me wonder if all big political movements we've ever seen were because someone found a way to convince a large, easily-swayed group of people to do what they want. Get the dummies on your side.", "Too funny", "lol I know I love the show, and I was joking because Randy didn't stay rightwing like the person above said.", "Be original", "That wasn't the point of this episode.", "Is that like a national train line?", "lol it’s a credit card but it totally could be a train. Would make a better train name actually", "Already happened: https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/aug/30/childprotection.society\n\n> Self-styled vigilantes attacked the home of a hospital paediatrician after apparently confusing her professional title with the word \"paedophile\", it emerged yesterday.", "And this private company essentially controls the value of the American dollar, so yeah, Fuck the Fed and it's fairly reasonable to announce that in connection with any monetary transaction in the US.", "I keep thinking about that movie The Other Guys where one character thinks the Federal Reserve is a prison and threatens to send people there", "“No, that doesn’t matter.”", "I just want my mom to stop trippin.", "Should've gone after the Federal Reserve.\n\nNo, wait...", "Thanks, wow. Released in 2011...", "> This article is more than 21 years old \n\n\"That's weird, this says it was written in 2000, not the 80's\" \nSeal was right. Time keeps on slippin.", "I used to work at a Fedex Office. Often I had people assume I was a government employee, Fedex was an extension of the USPS, and that we are responsible for that packages even tho they can clearly see we have like 4 shelfs and they are empty.", "Lol I thought this was from one of their new episodes", "I thought it had to be a newer episode, has the last 10 years really been like this? Jesus..", "holy shit i thought so too. i was convinced it was a 2021 episode in fact by how...errr... relevant, it is lately.", "Dumb, and most likely desperate too. A large reason so many Americans are pissed off and dumb is because we have no funding in our education and a lifestyle that demands you work endlessly and see almost nothing for it. People are pissed, and they don’t know why. Some news stations then propagate whatever batshit insane theories to the pissed off dumb masses to appease and bring in money. \n\n‘Merica baby!", "You’ve got to think at least one person in the federal government is going to see their comment. It’ll probably be some data analyst that doesn’t give a fuck and is just happy with their job and their great benefits. But they still might see it.", "I used to work for a Fedex Office one time a convo like this happened:\n\nMe: We can't ship this due to federal regulations\n\nCustomer: It's against Fedex policy?\n\nMe: It's against the FEDERAL REGULATIONS from the government\n\nCustomer: Thats what I said the fedex policy\n\nMe: We aren't federal sir....\n\nCustomer: SINCE WHEN!?", "I just want to know who this guy is who's friends with GTR, one of the all time Counter Strike legends?", "Thats whats the feds want you to think!", "yeah.. actually it's a good thing that the government and the Federal Reserve are two distinct entities. It's a big underlying feature of the implicit trust in the US dollar. See, if the government could directly control the Fed, why the fuck would anyone own US dollars? They'd just be beholden to whatever retards have been elected in the most recent cycle", "Rubber baby buggy bumpers.", "trippin on deez nuts", "You people are such babies. It's a comedy show, who gives a fuck if Randy is leaning left or right in a singular episode.", "This episode definitely predicted the future well.", "Well this aged well didn’t lmao! South Park is usually right on the money with all sorts of issues. People just don’t pay attention to that fact.", ">Seal was right. Time keeps on slippin.\n\nThat is a weird way to spell Steve Miller.", "Gottem!", "The way the Pissed Off and Angry Party gets dissolved in the last minute of the episode is pretty great", "I-i-iiinto the future.", "I mean a guy fired a gun in a pizza parlour because he thought the Democratic Party was using it as a child sex slave dungeon. This seems more reasonable by comparison.", "Tick tock tick doo doo doo-doo", "I work for UPS. People consistently believe that I’m a federal employee. I remember my sister calling during the last government shutdown and asking if I would be okay.\n\nIt doesn’t seem to matter how many times I explain it. \n\nAlso, for any idiots reading this that want the USPS to fail and think UPS will take over, no, we don’t want that shit. We’re wholly unprepared for last mile delivery across the US.", "Modern conservatism in a nutshell!\n\nEdit: Deleted a typo.", "I don't know about you but if I were I pedophile I'd put that fact in every phone book. I'd meet the nicest people.", "This was released in 2011 - I believe the issue with the surgeon general they are having is the official mandate on where to start measuring the penis from, and that by changing said mandate, these protesters were put into a small penis category.", "Dunno really, I mean it's kinda cool but could range anywhere from \"randomly accepted but never messaged\" to \"best friends\". People are a bit less friendly nowadays though yeah.", "Why would they be talking about Obama's birth certificate if it was from 2021\n\nEdit: The amount of comments saying the same thing and the downvotes this comment got make no sense to me", "Looks like Get\\_Right wants to play CS:GO with you", "Federal Express actually did change its name to FedEx due to people not trusting the government back in 2000. I started a few years after and it was part of orientation at the time.", "This episode was about all these people with anger issues having it stem from their small penises. The issues didn't matter at all.", "Not federal? Next thing you'll tell me is that they aren't express!", "I honestly thought that was the joke. Still hung up on something from a decade ago.", "You’re assuming that the issue is settled for those folks.", "Please, they still trot out Benghazi too", "you'd be surprised at how much people just can't let go. and by 'you'd be surprised' I meant not surprised at all.", "IIRC they called it FedEx in the hope of winning federal work. It didn't help.", "rent free, bruh", "The [Federal Reserve](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve) was created by an act of Congress. It's run by people appointed by the President. All of the profits (after dividends are paid) go to the government. The Fed is as part of the government as the postal system.", "Because they are crazy.", "People still hate on Obama to this day. I wouldn’t be surprised.", "I was talking about you ripping off the top YouTube comment", "This is so relevant that i thought this might have been a NEW episode from last night", "TELL THAT BITCH TAH STAHP TRIPPIN MAYNE BITCH BE TRIPPIN ALL THE TIME MAYNE", "Because Obama continues to live rent-free in conservatives' heads, even to this day.", "Since NINETEEN OT SIX YESSSSIRREEEE", "I have never heard it compared to the postal service. Interesting. Thanks for the info.", "Fuck you buddy!", "Love Randy is is easily the best character", "I believe the real reason they were angry is because they all had small dicks and they wanted to change the way dick length were measured.", "Every country is a country with stupid people. The problem with the US is that the stupid people have very high confidence so they don't hide like in other countries.", "I thought this was a preview of a new episode, fucking hell.", "Well the federal reserve manages the infrastructure that processes all interbank money transfers \n\nSo the fed is probably moving money between banks in the process of processing that check \n\nBut it’s highly doubtful any employee of the fed will bother viewing that check", "Satire is funny and works because it pokes fun of reality and heavily uses irony to make a point. That humor gets real depressing when the reality that's getting made fun of ironically, gets worse and closer to the skit. This aired in 2011. It hits different now because it's actually happening (not specifically FedEx, but other examples) and it's just immensely frustrating and depressing that this is where we are as a society (my perspective as a US citizen).", "cuz they still ask for it this very fucking day", "This is what I imagine every time I see a proud boys rally. A lot of boys with under-average dicks.", "well your mistake is actually going to youtube instead of viewing the video on reddit then actually bothering to read the comments instead of having a browser addon that removes it. \n\nAlso, implying that youtube comment was original to begin with is hilariously naive.", "Bro that's what they want you to believe, the basement was magic, like the room of requirement in Harry Potter.", "South Park can be ahead of their times by decades sometimes lol.", "Just wait until they find out that the Pony Express wasn't actually owned by the ponies, either.", "wait - what is this from? is this an older episode, or is this a clip form the new season?\n\n(I'm assuming it's old, because it is saying something about Obama, rather than Biden, but it could so easily be aired today and be 100% topical)", "Is that the guy that went in and his bullet went through a wall and destroyed thier computer servers? Nothing weird there", "YEAH WE WANT MOMS TO STOP TRIPPIN MAN", "This wasn’t ahead of its time tho. People started acting like this when Obama was elected. It’s just been dialed up to 100 now.", ">We’re wholly unprepared for last mile delivery across the US.\n\nThis is something that a lot of people miss. The USPS is obligated to deliver to everyone, UPS and FedEx don't have to deliver anything that would be unprofitable to them.", "Just like how Mr. Big was right that it's a Wild World.", "The last 2 sentences are exactly what’s happening", "They obviously sealed up the door to it with alchemy", "I was pissed thinking I missed a new episode.", "I think you're confusing Am-ex with Amtrak.", "🚨Weewoooweeewoo🚨 content police is here everybody stand down", "You can calculate your Adjusted Penis Size (or TMI) with the following formula: **((L\\D)+(W/G))/(A\\^2)**\n\n\r \nLength times Diameter plus Weight over Girth, divided by Angle of the tip squared.", "South Park always either gets things really* right or really wrong. The main issue is that most of their remaining audience falls into \"very wrong\" and feels emboldened when they shit the bed.\n\nHahaha. Their core audience found me.", "This tracks.", "What was his reaction?", "Think about the litany of right wing batshit conspiracy theories we've had to endure the past decade:\n\n Obama is a secret Kenyan Muslim\n* Hillary was running a child sex ring from the basement of a pizza parlor that had no basement\n* Global warming is a Chinese hoax\n* Windmills cause cancer\n* Forest fires are caused by Jewish space lasers\n* Covid is a hoax\n* OK Covid isn't a hoax, but it's from 5G cell towers\n* The Covid vaccine is so Bill Gates can microchip and track everyone \n* The 2020 election was stolen, despite Trump's attorney general, head of cybersecurity, courts helmed by Trump appointees, and Republican secretaries of state and governors affirming there was no evidence of fraud\n\nReasonable left the building a long time ago when it comes to right wingers. It's batshittery all the way down now.", "I'm not your buddy, friend!", "….And fuck Kyle.\n\nYea, fuck Kyle!", "This episode wasn't predicting the future. It was satirizing their present. This was at the height of the Tea Party nonsense. Radicalized right-wingers were doing some truly insane stuff, and had few (if any) coherent goals.\n\nThere wasn't anything really \"predictive\" about it at all, except insofar as radicalized right-wingers haven't really changed in a fundamental way in the intervening decade.", "Does it bother you the YouTube comment section isn’t actually affiliated with the Reddit comment section?", "The Pissed off and angry party sounds cool, i might vote for them.", "C'mon, don't go chasing waterfalls.", "Of course they will, if you follow a quick lifehack.\n\nEnter it into your search engine of choice along with asking for instructions on building certain items and federal building locations.", "Only part that made me unsure of when this came out was the Obama birth certificate, but then they mentioned the surgeon general lol. This came our 2011? Damn", "When I was a retail clerk at the post office, a customer came in to tell us he was sick of getting junk mail and was gonna go straight to the mayors office and get us shut down. People arent smart", "I’m not your friend, pal!", "I’m not your friend, pal!", "This reminds of the silicon valley dick joke.", "Damn the inverse square law even pops up in dick measurement. The Universe is a mysterious place.", "Timeless joke I guess lol", "I feel like the NSA can see just about whatever it wants on the internet.", "oh look its /r/conspiracy", "Listen if there’s one reason I watch south park, it’s multi-episode plot continuity and believability. You remove those two and you might as well not have a south park.", "If we're being reasonable I think you can only contribute a couple of those things to all right-wingers:\n\n* Obama is a secret Kenyan Muslim\n* Global warming is a Chinese hoax\n* Covid is a hoax (I wouldn't even say hoax, just that they thought it was overblown).\n* The 2020 election was stolen (this one only really applies to Trumpies and not all Republicans, though a lot were against mail-in voting early on)\n\nAll still crazy things to believe, but not as crazy as the list of fringe conspiracy theories you posted. Also most, if not all, of the ones listed were perpetrated by Trump.", "But now that you've shared his message every federal employee that reads this comment will see his message.", "Oh come on, the president of the United States only repeated some of those batshit conspiracy theories. \\s", "Anything after season 3 or so is \"new episodes\" for me.", "This was the same time a Peter File was attackes and also when a known paedophile disguised himself as a school and went on the run for ages.", "Hold on. Who do you think processes interbank checks?", "Wayne D.. underrated character", "A coworker of mine wrote \"IT sucks\" into the comment box on a server reboot and got sent to HR for it. Someone actually read those things and complained about it.\n\nNothing came of it, HR just told him to keep his comments professional.", "Everything I listed were things stated by either Republican politicians, pundits or their supporters. So it all falls on the shoulders of the right wing.", "Wait, there are dividends that don't go to the gov? Or did you mean dividends as ib coupon payments?", "The place that is actually associated with the government due to being ran by a board of individuals appointed by the US president?\n\nYes... Yes, they should have.", "except you have no idea how the fed works", "Are conservatives still mad about Obama's birth cert?", "We’d all be better off if we didn’t have television", "Here’s one theory I have:\n\nFacebook started the flat earth conspiracy. They wanted to test out their ability to sway segments of the population and to see how much control they really have. They started a few groups and it caught on and worked.", "Fuck me that is insanely accurate lol", "Yeah, that was largely caused by police escalation and counter protesters. Did you even read the article you linked?", "Why'd you have to ruin his day like that? C'mon.", "Yes but I don't think it's fair to claim that all right-wingers believe in the things you listed. I know a fair amount of republicans and none of them thought:\n\n* Hillary was running a child sex ring from the basement of a pizza parlor that had no basement\n* Forest fires are caused by Jewish space lasers\n* Windmills cause cancer\n* OK Covid isn't a hoax, but it's from 5G cell towers\n* The Covid vaccine is so Bill Gates can microchip and track everyone\n\nThese are not things reasonable people think, and as much as we'd like to believe otherwise, there are reasonable people on the right side of politics.\n\nClumping them all into one dismissable nutty group is only going to make our situation worse.", "This episode is 10 years old, back in \"simpler\" times of the Tea Party.", "Trump himself said that Windmills (turbines) cause cancer. MTGreene (R) said that forest fires were caused by jewish space lasers, Trump said they were caused cause the forests weren't raked often enough. Trump never came out to say all of the QAnon talking points, but not only did he encourage it, his cabinet members were openly promoting it.", "They aren't a private company. It is an independent department of the government.\n\n It was created by an act of Congress. The Board of Governors is appointed by the president and confirmand by the Senate.", "I didn't know Trump spoke for all right-wingers? By that logic, he spoke for all American's as well. We voted him in, didn't we?", "The most dated thing about this video is the idea that they would acknowledge and feel angry about being wrong instead of tripling down.", "But then how will hot babes understand my mating potential? My appearance and sexual prowess? Impossible. /s", "Now they will.", "Sounds like the police shouldn't have started all those riots", "Damn did it work??", "If you're supporting a party that believes (or let's be real pretends to believe to appeal to their militant base) any of those things, you might not believe it but you're actively supporting those views.", "I ran a high speed check sorter 3rd shift for the federal reserve back in the 90's. Can confirm I would not have seen the note. Now if the micr line were damaged, it would go to slow speed sorting, and those people would see it for sure!", "This is the same shit with people saying the Simpsons predicted the future. [A lot of things just...haven't changed.](https://youtu.be/IC3W1BiUjp0)", "STOP THE COUNT", "I'm not your pal, guy!", "A thing can be predictive without meaning to be predictive. It was lampooning the present situation at the time, yes, but it also, by happenstance, predicted the dumb bullshit still happening today.", "People still talk about it in 2021", "Radical right dipshits never change, it's why they like the term 'conservative'.", "Remember when the crazy right wingers spent two fucking years straight adamantly claiming that Trump was a Russian agent? It was practically their entire identity, for two whole fucking years. Then it was revealed as a \"batshit conspiracy\" and they tried to pretend like it never happened. Good thing the left has never done anything like that.", "> We aren't federal sir\n\nI mean you are, you're fedex. You're just not that federal. You can't blame people for this when you're the ones who picked the name.", "Shooting up an inter rivalry baseball game however...", "Lotta shills for the Federal Reserve itt, for some reason...", "He's the leader of the right wing party and has a very high approval rating, so yeah.. he speaks for the right wing of the country. \n\n...also, in case you weren't aware, when he was president, he did speak for all Americans on the global stage - which is why so many of us cringed whenever he opened his stupid mouth", "I never said all conservatives. I'm saying that all the batshit conspiracy theorism is coming from the right.", "Weird way to spell Space Cowboy", "[Riots probably wouldn't have been so bad if cops didn't drive around shooting people in the streets for no reason.](https://twitter.com/7im/status/1448330546514329600)", "What", "My point is that it isn't any more predictive than saying something like, \"People will still drink coffee twenty years from now.\" Yes, it's correct, in a literal sense, but it isn't meaningful or insightful. It doesn't reflect keen powers of observation or a deep understanding of evolving human nature. And when you don't even actually make a deliberate prediction of any kind to begin with, the impact becomes non-existent.\n\nBeyond that, it's important to understand the context here, because that does give it meaning. If you haven't been following politics for more than a few years, you might be under the impression that right-wing radicalism is a new phenomenon in the United States, but that isn't true. It's been a running undercurrent in American politics for a very long time, and has been causing mayhem out in the open for well over a decade.", "You have to say Nancy Pelosi 3 times in the bathroom mirror and a secret door opens.", "So then, extending your logic to the discussion that's been going on, we can change u/nankerjphelge's comment from:\n\n> Reasonable left the building a long time ago when it comes to right wingers.\n\nto\n\n> Reasonable left the building a long time ago when it comes to Americans.", "It is a bank, an instrument created by the Government, not a department. It is a bit reductionary to call it a private company as there are both private and public components, but much more accurate than calling it a department since that would imply that it is controlled by the Executive branch, which it is not, directly. It is often referred to as the \"fourth branch\" of government despite not being so, primarily because it is not subject to the checks and balances of the other branches like vetos and elections.\n\nFrom Wikipedia: the Federal Reserve System considers itself \"an independent central bank because its monetary policy decisions do not have to be approved by the President or by anyone else in the executive or legislative branches of government, it does not receive funding appropriated by Congress, and the terms of the members of the board of governors span multiple presidential and congressional terms.\"\\[25\\]", "It sounds like common sense, but what if I like water, a lot of it at a time?", "They say South Park is ahead of its time. He he.", "Fedex hasn't had Federal in it's name since the early 90s.", "> Reasonable left the building a long time ago when it comes to right wingers\n\nOk buddy.", "Wait I thought Randy liked Obama \"ITS- ITS CHAANGE! CELLLLEBRATE GOOD OBAMA CMON! HE'S SO AWESOME HE'S SO COOL AND AWESOME!\"", "exactly. The Fed also sets the interest rate and is therefore indirectly responsible for inflation. In lay terms, they \"print money\", err, i mean... \"took er jerbs\"", "No but you get to own it as if he did, that's reality, pissing and moaning about Bush not representing all Americans back in the day didn't mean I wouldn't get dirty looks when traveling and someone heard my accent. The lesson here is, keep your fucking house in order and keep the crazies out if you don't want to be associated with crazy, that's everyone in a \"groups\" job. If your group or organization cant do that, it means they are bereft of leadership or cohesiveness and deserves the shit they get piled on it.", "When Trump was in charge, yeah. A lot of the world did not treat the US as if they were reasonable, justifiably so. Thankfully that pigfucker is no longer in charge and the first sentence is applicable again.", "Dang. That's the worst kind of alchemy.", "Still waiting for you to point out where I said all conservatives, buddy.", "This is an episode from a few years back, it’s just a scene there is a bigger arch to the story.", "In fact, the Pizzagate thing had nothing to do with basements or Pizza Places. It was about the code words men were using in emails with Epstein. The fact that people think it had something to do with actual pizza.....I guess the CIA did a good job changing the conversation.", "Why is it ok to shame people for having a small dick?\n\nEdit: Downvotes? Why not explain how to square making fun of the intrinsic quality of having a small dick with not being ok with making fun of other intrinsic qualities like I don't know...Skin color, gender, sexual orientation, race, etc.?\n\nEdit 2: Remember when it was cool to use “gay” as an insult like this and now it’s not?", "Represent!", "\nCartman still had a micropenis.", "> All of the profits\n\nuuhm and have you checked how that's going currently? Their current cumulative profit is negative $8 trillion 😅 That's how money is made^TM", "Yeah Fuck, Kyle!\n\nOne of my favorites, even though it’s not the best episodes is the whole imagination arch, and Cartmans dream about his balls exploding from dryness, because Kyle backed out on the contract of sucking them.", "Aught, so you know", "Not the workers fault. Fuck Debitch.", "The far right domestic terrorist that parked a pickup of explosives outside… the library of Congress.", "Now I feel old.", "Were you a janitor there? I don't see how you could not know checks get cleared through the fed.", "YEAH AND FUCK KYLE!!", "it started that way, but was made private", "Well your not going to convince anyone to switch sides by calling them a nutjob. I'm not trying to justify the actions of the Party as a whole. Or the country as a whole.\n\nMy only point is if we dismiss all of the people on the other side of the aisle we are just gonna push them further away from our side. Isn't that the opposite of our end goal? They still hold a large amount of US political power, even if we dismiss them.\n\nAlso this: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qcsqcy/south_park_fedex/hhj0kkt/", "Well, now I need it", "Let's hop aboard the Federal Express!", "There was best of the best South Park marathon on Comedy Central yesterday. There were multiple times I remembered the episode premiering, and realized it was from over a decade ago. When did I get old?", "Yup... this feels about right these days.", "What? You're not even accounting for the correct variables! The correct formula is (Length x Width / Mass ^2 – Shaft Angle) + YAW", "Yes, I, too, watched the video.", "Do I need to pull up the definition of right-winger? Or are you stuck up on the fact that \"when it comes to right-wingers\" implies all of them?", "> The Covid vaccine is so Bill Gates can microchip and track everyone\n\nThis was not a right-wing hoax. It came out of left-wing circles.", "\"Tired of lying in the sunshine, staying home to watch the rain\nYou are young and life is long, and there is time to kill today\nAnd then one day you find ten years have got behind you\nNo one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun\"", "> Ungodly amounts of people in this country are that stupid\n\nand\n> Already happened\n\nJust wanted to point out that the story linked happened in the UK.\n\nThere are stupid people everywhere. It's not just an American thing.\n\nI swear to god the \"we have the dumbest people EVER here!!\" is just 1 more type of American Exceptionalism. The irony is strong.", "For me \"new South Park\" sarted in like 2010 and continues to this day.", "Was it The Alimo?", "Idk, but people feel okay about it. I’m “pretty nice” and have had two girls who I liked, hung out with for a few months, just randomly start shit talking someone because their friend said he had a small dick, and just be completely mentally by how I didn’t think it was funny or okay. Like, both played through the same, “no one thinks you have a small dick, who cares?” Line of logic. The one stormed out when I pointed out how with that same logic, I shouldn’t care about racism. Now that I think about it, only one of those girls was otherwise cool. The other one liked to storm out of places and then back in, because no one followed her. She was hot and nice to me, but mean to her friends, and service staff at restaurants while working as a server. Definitely realizing I had the old dick blinders on.", "> I believe the real reason they were angry is because they all had small dicks and they wanted to change the way dick length were measured.\n\nSo in other words, they are qanon?", "\"Let's rage at the local town hall over federal issues because we're morons!!!!\"", "Cause if anyone complains people just assume they're angry cause they have a small dick. It's perfect.", "I don't think they were. I think it is more that they are shaming insecure people who take their anger over their own shortcomings out on other people.", "You really need to read the Mueller Report:\n\nhttps://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/", "Well that seems dangerous.", "They complain about the rights of private companies they hate while still pretending to be pro-capitalism. Fuckers can't even pick a lane and stick with it anymore.", "\"What really matters is D to F\"", "How do you disguise yourself as a school", "It's always the dumbest shit that turns out to be true. \n\nSecret cabal of cannibal satanists running the government? \nDefinitely false. \n\nHidden underground society of lizard people / aliens / jews(?) that run the planet as a livestock pen? \nProbably false. \n\nPedophiles distributing media of kids being raped with the code name \"cheese pizza\" \nBasically confirmed.", "Dumb people in this world is not a new phenomenon. The new dynamic is that with social media they can find each other and be dumb as a group. The technical term is flock of dopes.", "haha that was some terrific writing. starting in the middle sparks the idea for the new algorithm.", "Considering how long the writers have been with South Park. Any ideas they have are as good as Cartman buying a quantum computer to crash the cryptocurrency system.", "And then talk about it and watch the downvotes come rolling in.\n\nEpstein procured children for sex with Washington elites on both sides of the aisle. That's a fact. They used pizza terms to discuss it in emails. That's a fact. That's what Pizza Gate was. And then one day I turn on the TV and \"we searched the pizza parlour and it doesn't even have a basement\"\n\nLike, what? What pizza?! How did this start actually being about pizza?! Incredible work at disinformation. World class.", "> Also, for any idiots reading this that want the USPS to fail and think UPS will take over, no, we don’t want that shit.\n\nI mean if you are cool with a letter costing $4.50 to mail and taking a week, sure dismantle the USPS.", "Could you quote the part that confirms Trump was a Russian agent?", "I'm not trying to convince anyone, I'm telling you how the world works. You can ignore it, blow me off as being wrong, it's not going to change the fact that a singular person, yes, can be intelligent and not assert everyone claiming an identity shares the same thoughts as that groups defacto leadership, but that's not how people operate in the aggregate and never has been. So a group is collectively responsible for their outward identity to other groups and if the members of that group are too weak collectively to self police, they deserve to shed the members that can no longer tolerate that situation and all the shit flung at them from other \"groups\". With right-wingers we're at the point where the \"Fringe\" of that group seem to be the sane reasonable people and the crazy is pushing them out.", "The irony of trying to use that article as proof.", "If \"small dicks\" is the undesirable trait/insult as implied in their reply, how are they not?", "Can you quote where \"the left\" spent 2 years claiming he was? They apparently changed their entire platform to this, so there should be stickers, shirts and flags, etc. ;)", "Ispo facto: fuck the Fed.", "The actual Federal Reserve banks are private property, though.", "Is everything alright, postal employee Newman?", "https://youtu.be/P-hUV9yhqgY", "No, the past decade hasn't been like this. When this episode was released, it potrayed a wild exaggeration. Reality has simply caught up to South Park.", "There was a guy in my circle of friends back in high school. He was the kind of weird, not-very-bright type of guy who's nice enough but just not particularly cool. Anytime we were watching a movie or something, and someone said a funny line, he'd turn to us and... repeat the line, seconds after it was spoken in the movie, and laugh as if it was him being funny. It was fucking obnoxious and we couldn't stand it.\n\nReddit is full of that guy.", "These people in the episode were angry because their dick size was below average.", "Exactly how many times do I need to explain to you what I meant with what I posted? For fucks sake, this now marks the third fucking time I've clarified for you that I wasn't implying that I thought all conservatives believe that shit. And if you insist on telling me what I really meant when I've told you now three times what I meant then that's a you problem, not a me problem. \n\nNow fuck off already.", "No, that doesn't matter.", "From what I remember, there were records of Hillary or some other politicians meeting at a local pizzeria or talking about it (probably because pizza is great). Then when a leak happened, people jumped the gun and associated benign pizza conversation with \"cheese pizza\" code and started harassing the pizzeria", "Feel free to provide a citation for that, because the only posts I've ever seen pushing that nonsense were Trumpers/right wingers.", "We ain’t federal and we sure as shit ain’t Express LMAO.", "Not sure if you're trolling, but it's weird how I personally heard several people repeat this and they all come from conservative backgrounds...", "Right, but if they get rid of USPS as many on the right would like to do then UPS & FedEx could essentially charge whatever they want to deliver to rural areas or just outright refuse to serve them. With USPS postage rates are postage rates whether it's going down the street or to the boondockiest of boondocks within the country.", "Trump actually invented some of them.", "He's saying \"Fuck the Federal Reserve\", you know, the central bank that prints money, controls monetary policy through bond purchases, and set's the overnight cash rate. The one that isn't technically a government agency but is run by a chairman appointed by the government.", "[https://youtu.be/Jykgj5B8JHw](https://youtu.be/Jykgj5B8JHw)\n\nWatch this to jog your memory.", "i don't watch South Park really, so I didn't know this was an old episode. I really just assumed that a bunch of trumpists/Q morons had assaulted a FedEx facility in the last week or something and I'd somehow missed it until I checked the date on this upload.", "> I'm telling you how the world works.\n\nMe too. My goal is to make my country more left-leaning. Not being able to communicate and work with the opposing side is not going to do that.\n\n> So a group is collectively responsible for their outward identity to other groups and if the members of that group are too weak collectively to self police, they deserve to shed the members that can no longer tolerate that situation.\n\nI mostly agree with this. The problem is that there are no other options if you believe in conservatism. That's a flaw inherent in our two-party system.\n\nDemonizing people that voted against Trump in the primary and will continue to vote against the ideals that we all despise so much gets us nowhere. Their other options are to vote democrat or not vote. We would be worse off if those types of people were not voting and you're not going to convince them to vote democrat.\n\nIn this situation, we need to be the bigger person, even if it doesn't feel right.\n\nIf the US was a multi-party system I think we'd be in agreement.", "I'm afraid to ask. Did something happen?", "i legit thought this was mocking a real event that took place within the last week or two and I'd just somehow missed it.", "Oof... graduate of YouTube university I see... explains a lot. \n\nYour comment history is horrid. Constantly playing the victim, throwing out the Nazi card as often as you can, consistently having comments deleted by mods... good luck to you friend. Hope you find the bottom, rebound, and rejoin society at some point. :)", "Look dude, I'm fine if you explain that that's not what you meant. However you didn't do that, you claimed that you \"never said that\" right after very specifically saying that. \n\nThis was your first comment saying you didn't mean what you said. Now I understand.", "How convenient that it's never a \"batshit conspiracy\" if it's left wing, as long as there's the smallest kernel of truth to be found in the ocean of falsehoods.", "Compelling argument.", "their other building had a basement", "> Hope you find the bottom, rebound, and rejoin society at some point. :)\n\nSo beautifully succinct. I'll have to use this in the future.", "Wow... you did the biggest woosh of all time, ESPECIALLY for someone working at a bank.... he was talking about the federal reserve - which also is a private institution - you're going to sit there AS A BANKER and tell me you've never heard the federal reserve referred to as \"the fed\" ?!", "I caught that too and gave a good laugh. Like you're saying you're a banker and have never heard the federal reserve referred to as \"the fed\"?! Big woosh", "If you watch that episode and the lesson you learn from it is \"wow, having a small penis must be a bad and undesirable trait,\" that's on you. It definitely isn't shaming anybody", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX56xKAwM88", "I thought this episode was inspired by the Cliven Bundy BLM standoff because it's so very eerily similar. But the episode came out a few years prior.\n\nThey really did predict the future, the similarities are striking - a bunch of limpdick libertarian-types took over an office of the Bureau of Land Management thinking it was the equivalent of taking a stand against the federal government. In classic SovCit fashion, they convinced themselves that the wording of some fine print in some old law stated that citizens can legally occupy federal government offices as a sort of claim of Sanctuary, and did it as a protest for not being allowed to exploit federally-owned land to benefit their private enterprise. \n\nThere's a significant portion of the population that is similarly delusional and there's no indication that the situation will improve in the near future.", "Exactly why I can't watch Idiocracy anymore.", "Must have been a shit disguise, I've never seen a school run.", "[Relevant](https://old.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/qctjcd/this_herman_cain_award_recipients_final_public/)", "> Incredible work at disinformation. World class.\n\nPeople eat it up too. I have a few friends that I can ask about Epstein and they think that Epstein was guilty of sex trafficking.... but still think \"pizzagate\" is bullshit. I just don't even know what's going on anymore.", "No, I meant exactly what I said, you just are being a pedantic asshole about it and under the delusion that the word \"all\" must have been implied by me when it was not. If I meant to say ALL right wingers, I would have used the word \"all\" in my post. But I realize now you are incapable of understanding that basic logic.\n\nAnd now, since you clearly have nothing of value to offer in this discussion besides tiresome pedantry, I'll go ahead and update my blocked user list. 👍", "What exactly is happening? Thanks in advance to anyone who responds", "It's the blue way of saying fragile masculinity, insecure, what have you.\n\n\n\n\nPeople that Randy is a caricature of put too much stock in being manly men. Easiest way to get that revved up is to imply their dick isn't the best thing since sliced bread. \n\n\n\nNow small penis size is a real thing and something that can cause insecurity, no doubt. It's not my favorite insult because there's nothing to be done about it. \n\n\n\nThe longer joke in this episode is their blatant insecurity. It starts with Cartman, the fat antisemite, seeing a chart that has no mention of penis and assuming it's about his penis and therefore him. Then as Randy is yammering, their impotent rage.\n\n\n\n\nSee, the guy who had a bomb at the wrong Congress building.", "It's crazy, right? Like the redirection is off the charts.\n\nThere's a \"conspiracy pyramid\" going around and it has real confirmed conspiracies grouped all around \"lizard people\". Like Free Britney is in the same category as Lizard People. I just can't.", "Same with Futurama, it was making fun of situations by cranking them up to 11, except now we've cranked reality up to 12.", "You mean the gangster of love?", "I'm always so fucking floored when I re-find out that they're in like season 25", "I've seen that conspiracy pyramid, it's pretty bogus. Yeah we are living in what I like to call a \"post-fact era\" where there are no more verifiable facts.", "My guess is weaponized social media.", "Right, same here.", "Yur talkin just like a librul", "The fed means the federal reserve", "He said he was joking though", "I don't know if they're not verifiable, but rather it's like trying to communicate at a rock concert. There's just so much noise that you can't get a point out over the din.\n\nLook at Covid. The numbers are clear as day. Hospitalization is 3 per 100k vaccinated person and 50 per 100k unvaccinated. It's simple. Get vaccinated and stay out of hospital.\n\n\"But I heard\" and now the conversation isn't simple anymore. Now I have to explain to my childhood friend that even if spike protein is a toxin that has nothing to do with.....see? I'm defending against stupid rather than sharing smart. That's pizzagate.", "UPS, FedEx, and maybe even Amazon would probably collapse if the USPS disappeared. Daily last mile delivery is both expensive and a critical component of our economic infrastructure. I can’t believe people want the USPS to fail. It’s like saying you want to stop all road construction and maintenance because you don't like paying an extra $0.15/gallon at the pump.", "That's exactly it lmao", "Wait what? Didn't something similar happen irl recently? I could have sworn that is what was happening here", "That would be being charitable (overly so) rather than reasonable. The entire Republican Party (save for a handful like Adam kinsinger which amount to less than 10 people) is complicit in spreading all that batshittery, if not outright endorsing it", "Rsk", "Yeah but in his defense if had initials that he could make into something conspiratorial. Same goes for the Nearly Adult Sexual Abusers, Communist Nuclear Nudists and the United States Pervert Satellite. The simple rule is that you just can't trust any organisations that use words and letters.", "Do you not realize that trump lost the election? (By a lot). Americans who aren’t bat shit right wingers soundly reject trump. Right wingers guzzle that shit up. Trump stands for right wingers, not Americans in general", "This, especially people who didn't vote the way I wanted them to. I am a highly intelligent redditor.", "I agree completely.", "Its because the initials of that phrase match the initials of an outdated term referencing the recording of child abuse", "> Pedophiles distributing media of kids being raped with the code name \"cheese pizza\"\n\nSee I don't want to say you're wrong, but Cheese Pizza meaning Child Porn is a meme from 4chan that far predates any of this nonsense.", "Lmfao fucking YouTube videos are you for real? That’s all you fucktards have anymore, is YouTube and memes. For fucks sake even ur representatives rely on fucking memes to argue policy (see mtg). Y’all are really fucking stupid and pathetic holy shit", "Didn't some people try to storm the BBC office but went to their old one?\n\nOh also that dude who confused the Library of Congress with the Capitol.", "I'm friends/hobby modding with the other coder from the Korean project you mentioned, as well as Steam Friends with a Valve employee because of one of my mods and as a modder im proud of both those things.\n\nYou're a cool guy", "This predates Trump by a lot.\n\nThe premise of the Episode is Carman discovers he has a tiny penis and become angry about it. Stan's dad get called in to deliver a lecture in school about how to properly measure a penis but gets corrected by a doctor citing the latest medical standards of the FDA lead by the surgeon General. The new standards establish all the men that take over the FedEx have smaller than average penises. The movement grows and reaches a crescendo when the FDA releases a new size chart where the majority of men are officially described as \"above average\". With the new standard many of the men suddenly become less angry and go home. Except for Cartman.\n\nIn real life this actually happened on board the ISS, the attachments for different urinary devices were labeled, \"small, medium, and large\" for astronauts to use. The astronauts were found to all exclusively use the \"large\" attachments with none using the \"small\" (and NASA measures everything on astronauts). So NASA relabeled the devices \"Jumbo\", \"Mega\" and \"super\" or other 'oversized' names to ensure proper fit and working procedure of the devices.", "It was happening when the show was aired too. Nothing matters go hang out with your kids or friends.", "Well Republicans holding a press conference at Four Seasons Total Landscaping hits home.", "The windmill one I'm pretty sure. But I don't think that one spread. Although I remember the Texas governor blaming them for blowing cold air over Texas I really don't remember just that it was dumb", "How do you work at a bank and not know “the fed” = the federal reserve?", "All my homies write superfluous memos on their cashed checks.", "Me today when 2 overnight packages are delayed.", "It's literally just a montage of news clips, emotionally unstable dude.", "alot of people are stuck in the past and can't use cell phones", "Some people call him Maurice", "Randy Marsh perfectly encapsulates the Libertarian minds of Matt Stone and Trey Parker. On the surface they appear edgy with knowledgeable complaints on the topical subject of the day, but don't actually know or care enough to pursue any real insight into purposeful change.", "Maybe when crackpots didn't have each other they kept to themselves more often? Now they can band together on FB and spread crazy memes.", "Ugh.\n\nMy late uncle tried to convince me that we didn't have to pay taxes because of some weird wording in the Constitution. He showed me a book that \"explained\" it and I was deeply skeptical.\n\nLater, talking with my cousin we both decided taking advice from something that looked like a coloring book is not a good idea.", "New season when", "You realize your supporting my argument. Saying Trump represents the view points of all Americans is just as dumb as saying he does the same for all republicans. In 2016 Trump only got 44% of the republican vote during the primaries, yet your ok with lumping the other 56% of republicans in with him? So why are you not ok with lumping the 48% of voters who voted for Hillary in 2016 with Trump?", "AND JEWS!", "The same people that are \"concerned\" about the coal jobs (50k jobs) are totally fine with the usps being dismantled (500-650k jobs). Just reiterates their lack of consistency.", "holy shit spot on", "Can you tell me what change you're talking about and when it was made?", "Or maybe 4chan took pedophile code words and used them on 4chan for pedophilic content…", "Yea that is when all that tea bag party shit started. \n\nEveryone thought they went away, they just reformed into all the crazy groups you see today. It's all the same rhetoric though so you know it's the same people.", "again THE FED WILL NEVER EVER SEE THE FUCKING MEMO.\n\nSo you could write I have a tiny little penis on it for all anyone cares...\n\nAll checks are sent through as electronic images and they just look at the routing info and account info + how much... thats like it. Its all done by computers who read that shit.", "[HE WAS A PAEDO-DOG](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCywGhHQMEw)", "In the UK, earlier this year some antivaxx protestors tried to storm BBC television centre unaware that the corporation had moved many years ago and that building now is largely just flats.", "From the link:\n\n>A member bank is a private institution and owns stock in its regional Federal Reserve Bank. All nationally chartered banks hold stock in one of the Federal Reserve Banks. [...] From their Regional Bank, member banks with $10 billion or less in assets receive a dividend of 6%, while member banks with more than $10 billion in assets receive the lesser of 6% or the current 10-year Treasury auction rate. The remainder of the regional Federal Reserve Banks' profits is given over to the United States Treasury Department. In 2015, the Federal Reserve Banks made a profit of $100.2 billion and distributed $2.5 billion in dividends to member banks as well as returning $97.7 billion to the U.S. Treasury.", "Didn't they have Randy celebrating Obama's win in the 08 election episode?\n\nI swear they use him as a blank slate for everything now. No resemblance to his original character", "With guns.", "lol\n\nno.\n\nLike, I can absolutely believe a ring of rich elites being pedos but them ACTUALLY calling child porn \"cheese pizza\" as a code word... come on man.", "It’s like a series of tubes", "NOTHING about Pizzagate had anything to do with Jeffrey Epstein, except possibly in the minds of the people who were dumb enough to propagate the conspiracy. Pizzagate started when the Russians hacked John Podesta's (Hillary's campaign chair) email account and Wikileaks published the emails. In the leak were completely benign emails about meeting for pizza at Comet Ping Pong, a popular DC pizza restaurant. Most human beings eat food every day and the Clinton campaign was no different. Rather than accept the most logical explanation (John Podesta and his staff enjoy pizza) conspiracy theorists all over the world concocted the ridiculous theory that became known as Pizzagate.\n\nYou are speaking very confidently about something you know nothing about, and in your own small way, you're making the world a worse place to live. Educate yourself and be better.", "You see the hoax communicated by right-wingers because eventually it did pick up traction among right-wingers. But that does not mean it originated with them.", "Look up the debacle with Arizona Iced Tea and SB 1070. Arizona tried passing some sketchy immigration law awhile ago and to protest people started boycotting Arizona Iced Tea. Arizona Iced Tea was founded in New York. It has nothing to actually do with Arizona let alone the Arizona government.\n\nThis was in 2010.", "That's not the question. I'm saying why is it ok to use having a small dick as the butt of a joke? If we swap in other intractable parts of a person (skin color, sexual orientation), that line of thinking would suddenly become highly offensive. \n\nI'm not sure why having a small dick is somehow ok to make fun of.", "So more and more people have small penises nowadays?", "I'm talking more abstractly. People use \"Small dick energy\" and the like as an insult pretty frequently. \n\nUsing someone's skin color, orientation, or nationality isn't ok, so why is using an intractable quality like dick size somehow ok?", "> they all come from conservative backgrounds\n\nWhy is that weird to you? If somebody said something untrue about you, would it be “weird” to want to debunk their claims?", "We’re talking right now, you dunce. That’s what the other guy meant when he said yea trump did speak for Americans when he was prez. It was fucking stupid, so Americans said fuck that and gave him the boot. Republicans still go along with his bullshir. He has like 80% approval among Republicans. So yea he does represent Republicans because they approve and choose to be represented by him, whereas non Republicans chose not to be represented. How is this so difficult for you lmao", "Right on, man, speak that truth! The left alleged that Russia interfered in the 2016 election, with the help of the Trump campaign, and all those morons were able to show was:\n\n- Extensive Russian interference in the election that favored Trump, most notably the Kremlin-linked hacking of Clinton campaign databases and emails\n- 37 indictments and numerous guilty pleas and convictions, including by close Trump associates who lied to federal investigators about their contacts with Russians\n- Sweeping obstruction of justice by Trump and his associates that hindered the investigation and prevented further facts about Russia's interference coming to light\n- That Donald Trump Jr., Paul Manafort, and Jared Kushner met with a Russian asset at Trump Tower in 2016 after being promised information damaging to the Clinton campaign\n- That Paul Manafort had extensive contacts with a confirmed Russian intelligence officer leading up to the election and passed private campaign information on to that officer, including internal polling data\n- That the same Russian intelligence officer potentially was connected to Russia's hacking efforts and later served as a liaison between Manafort and a Russian oligarch, who collaborated on efforts to undermine evidence of Russia's interference in the election\n- That communications were passed from Kremlin-linked individuals to the Trump campaign through an American businessman who served as a conduit. The same businessman who asked to meet with the Trump campaign in person, rather than over \"unsecure emails,\" to discuss an \"approach\" towards the campaign he had received from senior Kremlin officials. When later asked whether a meeting occurred and he participated, Michael Flynn testified that he could not recall. \n\nI mean, what a nothingburger, right? How could you possibly look at these facts, confirmed both by Mueller's investigation and a bipartisan Senate commission, and think the Trump campaign had anything to do with Russia. Stupid libruls!", "Well that and the fact that the people in question are slightly behind.\n\nSlightly by a lot.", "> I only ever heard left wing people refute it\n\nYou don’t talk to enough reasonable right-wingers if you haven’t heard us refute it even once.\n\n> I only heard it pushed by conservatives\n\nThen that means you were not around in the early days of the spread of the hoax. Eventually it did travel to conservative circles—I don’t deny that. But this conversation isn’t about who spreads the hoax, it’s about who originated it.", "> It's the blue way of saying fragile masculinity, insecure, what have you.\n\nI get that, but do you not see what I'm saying? \n\nBy using \"small dick\" in a pejorative/derogatory way, it's making an intrinsic unchangeable quality of someone (like skin color, race, religion, etc.) the butt of the joke/thing to be avoided. Small dick = BAD here. Do you not see the issue with it? \n\nEven if they have a small dick the only reason they would try to compensate for it is because of fragile/toxic masculinity--which this insult directly reinforces because again small dick = bad.", "And again I'm still waiting for you to provide a citation to support your assertion.", "Putting \"federal\" in there was kind of a weird choice to begin with, out of all the names they could have picked", "> documentary on HBO\n\nThat was quick ...", "Your mom is a bitch", "That's very true, conspiracies be wack sometimes, but I'm still curious about what the emails regarding sharing a single slice of pizza were about, and what the significance of a map on a handkerchief was. The email leak in 2016 had some pretty cryptic lines that don't make a lot of sense. I feel like that often gets forgotten for all the crazy far-out claims.", "It’s just a lot of footage, and interviews. I mean everyone has a camera these days, they were all walking around broadcasting themselves, plus footage from all the body cams and security cameras.", "I think because \"pizzagate\" as a thing was completely co-opted by the right, the alt-right went crazy politicizing it, making it about demonic democrats, and it merged into Q insanity. I think they did this intentionally, to discredit the whole thing and get ahead of trump's ties to Epstein.", "They signed a deal with paramount, apparently we are getting two short films before the year is over. New season next year too, and a video game Trey and Matt are developing in house.", "Hahahahaha", "It's not because you make profit from something that you control it.", "If predators were communicating do you think they'd just speak overty about it? Human trafficking is a massive billion dollar industry that is thriving rather than dwindling. It's not without precedence that people within humanitarian organisations or positions of power are directly tied to the human trafficking trade, such as Laura Silsby.", "That's an absolutely exhausting way of saying \"Trump continued being president until the end of his term because it was a fucking nothingburger.\"", "> My apologies.\n\nIt’s quite alright. But while you’re at it, look at all the respectable conservative publications like National Review and politicians (Mitt Romney off the top of my head, but plenty more) who went to the ends of the earth to refute the hoax. Don’t just assume that because the crazies think it, it must be a reflection of conservative ideas. And don’t feed into the poorly substantiated partisan narrative that none of us refuted it—plenty did and plenty continue to do so.", "Don't call my mom a bitch, fatass!", "Devastating counterargument. \"His corruption worked, therefore he was not corrupt.\"", "I'm mostly referring the removal of oversight by the Federal Reserve Board that was appointed by the executive branch through the signing of some 1950s accord", "Most of the conspiracy theories listed at the start of this discussion happened while Trump was President. And guess when he was elected for that term. 2016.\n\nPersonally I think anyone claiming that the current President represents all of the nuanced political views of every individual in the country is really silly.\n\nDoes the president represent us in the sense that he’s literally the head political representative of the US? Absolutely, but that’s not what’s being discussed here. We’re talking about specific view points and conspiracy theories.\n\nAccording to a recent poll 26% of Republicans want Trump to remove himself from politics entirely. Not to mention the people who support some of Trumps views but not all, and I imagine very few think Hillary was fucking kids in a Pizza Parlor. \n\nThat’s all I’m saying. Not every republican is a conspiracy nut, and saying they are is counterproductive.\n\nAlso so many expletives in this comment chain. Why does every political discussion devolve to name calling? It’s a lot harder to get someone to concede when you call them a dunce, just saying.", "people who are united only by outrage, with no substantive goals or methods, just try to fuck shit up cuz they're stupid and are mad about the things foxnews tells em to be mad about", "Semantics are important, especially in online discussions. Also, nice name-calling. 👍 \n\nHope the rest of your day goes better.", "I don’t care if it had 17 basements, that shit still dumb AF", "How completely benign is the phrase \"Pizza related map\"? The Podesta email were talking about something in code. There is no proof at all that is was child trafficking, but it was definitely fishy", "Plot twist: debitch is just trying to shut down the post office because no one would listen to him bitch about the junk mail that was actually catalogs his wife had ordered.", "The Mueller report did not deliver what everyone on the left was praying for it to deliver, plain and simple. Their endless labeling of Trump as a \"Russian agent\" was proven to be nothing but a fabricated conspiracy. Lie to me, lie to reddit, lie to yourself, I don't really give a shit.", "Can confirm, nobody reads cheques. \n\nI got cheques sent to me with my bank statement, for 3 months, withdrawled from my account without my name ANYWHERE on the cheque. \n\nIt took telling the bank that if they didn't fix it (on the 3rd time I had to come down there), that next time I would be going to the police and having their customer arrested for fraud. \n\nAll of a sudden they managed to contact him and straighten it out and get the cheques that had somehow been printed with my account number on them destroyed. (or at least started reading the damn things/put a note on my account not to accept cheques)", "Why is it always some guy who posts about crypto and stonks and posts in /r/Conspiracy", "[Doesn't seem much like how you're describing it](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Federal_Reserve_System#Accord_of_1951_between_the_Federal_Reserve_and_the_Treasury_Department).", "Ha yeah I remember that one, iirc an old Alex Jones \"documentary\" described a way to interpret a part of the constitution to mean the federal government can only tax citizens on \"business transactions\", meaning all taxed wages are ILLEGAL and therefore THEFT! idk my paycheck is a business transaction if you ask me, it's not like our employers* are landed gentry and our income is a stipend for room and board (although it's a little bit like that).", "why not?", "I was just hoping it would have spelled something vulgar.", "I'm talking about rural areas where there wouldn't even be an Amazon box. There are some pretty remote places in the US.", "No one in the clip was wrong. He was acting as if he was. He cowered to Putin in Helsinki. Everyone was right to suspect it given the evidence and investigate it.\n\nThe difference is that they discovered there was not evidence that he was directly involved, only that Russia was interfering and that Trump attempted to interfere with the investigation.", "Because the structure didn't change at all. There was no \"removal of oversight\" as you claimed.", "BLM rioting in major liberal cities over the summer", "This level of cope, years later. Amazing. Inspiring.", "That is why I was surprised when everyone was surprised Trump won. These people didn't just come out of nowhere.", "no, there aren't.", "Lol! [I forgot about John Podesta's pizza handkerchief.](https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/55433) Maybe I'm naive, but when I read this email I see the mundane details of normal life. John Podesta left his dirty snot rag at an open house and didn't care enough to have it returned to him. Here's the actual exchange:\n\n>Hi John, \nThe realtor found a handkerchief (I think it has a map that seems pizza-related. Is it yorus? They can send it if you want. I know you’re busy, so feel free not to respond if it’s not yours or you don’t want it. \nSusaner\n\nAnd his response:\n\n>It's mine, but not worth worrying about.\n\nAll due respect, but no intelligent, objective, person reads something like that and assumes the worst.", "Yeah, I encounter pizza related.maps on handkerchiefs every single day of my life. If ou find mine, it's nothing to worry about...\n\nDude.is definitely hiding something. Illegal drugs or proof of corruption is most likely, but it is definitely something", "Coping with what? I'm just summarizing what happened and what was found in the report. Something tells me you've still never read it.\n\nI get the impression you look to MSM to tell you what to think, too. Try in the future to pay attention to actual events and filter out all the editorials. That's key to forming independent thought and responding to arguments beyond \"nuh uh\" as you seem only capable of doing here...", "That man's name? Louis DeJoy.", "> and it merged into Q insanity. I think they did this intentionally, to discredit the whole thing and get ahead of trump's ties to Epstein.\n\nhmmmm... that's actually a super interesting take. Thanks, gotta think on that a bit myself haha.", "Pretty easy when the morons filmed themselves 🤷‍♂️", "I wrote RIP (friends name that was leaving the company) in a note pad txt on my desktop and got in trouble for wishing death on someone. Had to explain that RIP is just internet slang for anything ending. The guy (my friend) knew that too he wasnt even mad it was just the person who reported me didn't get it. We're in IT too /:\n\nNothing came out of it either it was just a bunch of non sense HR power tripping", "Yes, but you're an idiot. You have to try and see this from an intelligent, objective point of view. Which I realize is impossible. Because you're an idiot.", ">I get the impression you look to MSM to tell you what to think, too.\n\nThat's an impressively wrong assumption.", "SURGEON GENERAL’S RESIGNATION, OBAMA’S REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE, MOMS TO STOP TRIPPIN, AND FUCK KYLE!! YOU GOT ALL THAT??!", "This is how I feel when I see redditors “rant” about taxes", "\\$20 has been deposited to your Correct the Record account. Thanks for fighting the good fight", "Sure, buddy ;) \"nuh uh!\"", "Its fairly old. Way before the Mr Garrison president shenanigans.", "I thought it was a privilege of Karens.", ">Using someone's skin color, orientation, or nationality isn't ok, so why is using an intractable quality like dick size somehow ok?\n\nBecause people weren't historically villified and discriminated against for having small penises? I get the argument you are making and you do have a good point, but equating having a small penis to race, orientation, and nationality just makes your argument weaker", "FWIW Obama’s own brother says they were born, and grew up in Kenya together…", "Sorry, are you referring to the overwhelmingly peace protests in response to decades of racist actions by police departments across the country?", "> are mad about the things foxnews tells em to be mad about\n\nOh the irony", "https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_central_banking_in_the_United_States\n\n\"After Franklin D. Roosevelt took office in 1933, the Federal Reserve was subordinated to the Executive Branch, where it remained until 1951, when the Federal Reserve and the Treasury department signed an accord granting the Federal Reserve full independence over monetary matters while leaving fiscal matters to the Treasury.\"", "This was in the mid 1990s. It's awful knowing how long this nonsense has been going on.", "> It’s just been dialed up to 100 now.\n\nThat or Twitter/Facebook are just making it more obvious. And giving a microphone to the stupid and vocal.", "The president agreed to stop fucking with things by replacing governors before their term was up, but nothing actually changed. The accord doesn't hold the weight of law.", "I prefer the Bane UPS man bit", "Well the late 90's but still correct.", "[lol cope](https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/08/1862/1048/CNN-Headline-Fiery-2.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)", "South Park is wonderful. Takes the piss out of everyone that has it coming. Only show left that doesn’t bow down to the PC world.", "Yeah we all know 94 is the late 90s", "See the difference between conservatives and most of the people reading this comment, is that conservatives are right now laughing their asses off at this video making fun of them, and most of y'all literally never fucking laugh at anything.", ">but equating having a small penis to race, orientation, and nationality just makes your argument weaker\n\nNo it doesn't. We (at least mostly) agree that those things are bad to discriminate on because they are unchangeable, not just because the groups were historically vilified.\n\nUnless you think its okay to be racist against white people, and sexist against men, etc. \n\nHaving a small penis is just like being gay, black, female, etc as in its something you are born with and can't change.", "The creators of the show Veep have been quoted as saying it’s hard to bring the show back because at this point, it’s almost impossible to make satire crazier than what is actually going on. Writers are currently unable to write scenarios that outdo reality lol. Let that sink in.", "“Re-find out”. Lol", "Literally Google fbi pedophile keywords.", "[Don't tell Morbo he said that.](https://c.tenor.com/zPvC6caGbiUAAAAC/futurama-windmills.gif)", "One of the most entertaining ways to compare media bias is to see what headlines exist on one, and not the other. If it's in both places, it's pretty close to real news. Lets take a look at today's headlines. While both have their biases, it seems pretty clear to me which one is more newsworthy:\n\n\n Fox CNN \n\nAnti critical race theory site launches .................... Queen Elizabeth II spends night in hospital for tests\n\nBiden approval ratings ........................................ Biden town hall in Baltimore\n\nDemocrats post cartoons comparing ..................... How white nationalists lure young new recruits \nparents to horror villains\n\nAfghan refugee charged with rape in Montana ........ Latest US military hypersonic test fails", "I thought this was America!", "Wowww I did too hahaha", "Why wouldn't they? They're still worried Benghazi and Hilary's emails", "The fed isn't even government", "> Because people weren't historically villified and discriminated against for having small penises?\n\nI totally get that, it's an analogy not an equivalence. This is what I'm saying:\n\nIf we're going to care about trying to be sensitive about qualities that people can't change about themselves, we probably should not be using the size of someone's dick as the butt of a joke/undesirable quality.", "Randy was whatever he thought would make him look cool/smart in the moment. His whole thing is that he flip flops at the drop of a hat.", "You'd think the literal constitutional amendment authorizing income taxes would have put that argument to rest.", "Dude was copping a feel there lol", "\"Although an instrument of the US Government, the Federal Reserve System considers itself \"an independent central bank because its monetary policy decisions do not have to be approved by the President or by anyone else in the executive or legislative branches of government, it does not receive funding appropriated by Congress, and the terms of the members of the board of governors span multiple presidential and congressional terms.\"", "Because its South Park writers comedy, not actually Republicans bitching", "you mean the chair of the federal reserve? plenty actually changed and could be argued foundational to how it operates today and is bound by federal law.", "Shoutout to PC game modding communities all over!", "It's a reference to the Tea Party Movement, a fake grassroots campaign started by the Koch Brothers to try and convince poor working class Americans to protest for lower taxes for the Koch Brothers.", "I’m not sure I would call a bank teller a “banker”.", "So, like the USPS? They are self funded, and have their own [board of governors](https://about.usps.com/who/leadership/board-governors/). And yet most consider the postal service part of the government and think of postal workers as government employees.", "When I was a cable installer I got sent out on a service call. Turns out the guy wanted me to somehow fix his cable so that the commercials wouldn't be so loud. He showed me how the volume control on his remote barely worked anymore because he constantly had to turn it down when a commercial came on and then turn it back up to hear his show when that came back. I had to explain to him that that's not how any of this works.", "You'd think the Republicans and MAGAs would fly that flag 'till shreds but it got swept under the rug.", "So that’s weird or no? To me that’s strange!", "They understood perfectly. You just don’t get what they’re saying. Read the reply again, OP added notes just for you.", "They understood perfectly. You just don’t get what they’re saying. Read the reply again, OP added notes just for you.", "It’s pretty dumb to think anyone at the fed is going to read your little protest note though…", "You’re an idiot if you think this moron isn’t just covering for his dumb ass comment being called out.", "> In 2016 Trump only got 44% of the republican vote during the primaries, yet your ok with lumping the other 56% of republicans in with him? So why are you not ok with lumping the 48% of voters who voted for Hillary in 2016 with Trump?\n\nOK, how many of those 56% who didnt vote for him in primaries voted for him during the election itself though? I wouldn't lump in the people who voted for Hillary because they literally voted directly against Trump. The republicans who feign moral highground still supported him during his presidency, he had absurdly high approval ratings from republicans the entire time, they dont get to say he didnt speak for them.", "Yeah, the writers don't have any Tegridy.", "You’re an idiot for thinking a former bank employee doesn’t know what “the fed” means. And the fact that the answer isn’t affected at all by either interpretation proves this.", "I don't recall your standing there next to us while I was explaining this to my customer, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt in your 'assuming' what you think he was was talking about. Oh and thanks for the education, yep you're right, in my 20 year banking career I have never heard of the Federal Reserve, completely new concept for me, amazing I made it to management level with my limited experience. Thanks for sharing your brilliance.", "What are you his alt account? Go white knight to someone else you piece of shit.", "Ohhh right. I never knew that at any point in my 20 year banking career. Thanks so much. /s", "Yep, I was the janitor. The tellers would get so busy sometimes they would drop money on the floor and forget about it. I'd come in that night and sweep it all up and take it home. Got a nice yacht out of that job, I'm assuming it was a better then being the janitor at Burger King, but then maybe you would know about that one.", "Learn to tell a story next time and you won’t be called an idiot.", "Serious response: Seeing some of the other comments, you are probably correct about my comment being confusing; perhaps I should have explained in more detail but I didn't know how interested people might be in how negotiating a check for 'cash' as the payee at the drawee's bank would be processed by that bank not not handed off to clearing.", "Damn that sub got ruined so hard. Half of the posts now aren’t even conspiracy’s.", "It wasn't inter-bank, the payee was \"cash\" and we were his drawee bank. I didn't think people wanted/needed that level of detail to tell the story.", "Really!?! My 20 year career and I didn't know that! Amazing, thanks for the education. /s", "There's nothing more funny than someone without reading comprehension calling someone stupid lol", "Genius! Wow, you should have been working there over that 20-year career and not me. /s", "Im hilarious and Think conservative i this is", "Jan.6", "Nah, it was a slight exaggeration at best.", "Do you get to eat the burgers you sweep up or just toss them in the can with the rest of the trash? Idiot comment deserves an idiot response.", "Oh, another moron swooping in assuming I posted this after the edit? Good job Kurt.", "No it was pretty obvious you posted it before, it's just funny you need an extra paragraph to understand what they meant", "Haha you’re so pathetic.", "They get sooo close..", "Reddit, where everyone thinks everyone else is an idiot", "The angle of the dangle is directly proportional to the mass of the ass, when the heat of the meat is a constant.", "I had a very angry fedex driver once insult me and tell me he was a government employee 😂🤣", "I dunno, you could say his character likes to jump on bandwagons\n\nReally you're right I just have trouble judging them after they have made me laugh so much", "I’m sure pizza started well before the email leaks and I don’t recall Hillary being involved.", "In the past I would watch something like this and think that the cartoon is the only place people could ever act like that. \"Not realistic but a funny cartoon\".\n\nHow wrong I was...", "https://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/ “Like our sauce — we harvest a whole crop of organic tomatoes — 10 tons of tomatoes every year. Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in.” Were we wrong to take him at his word? He literally says right there in the article they store the tomato sauce in the basement?", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=133UlXRYIeg", "Don't underestimate the guy\n\nMaybe he was depositing proceeds from criminal activities and sending messages to an FBI agent in the future.", "They are crazy as fuck but at the same time Epstein was a real thing and you had Gates/Royals/Clintons involved\n\nI went from considering them complete nutjobs to considering them almost so crazy it helps hide the real corruption level useful nutjobs. The wayfair or pizza join stuff is beyond stupid but there being a sex slave ring with high ranking politicians seems a given", "I'm sure people like you believe that.", "And right on cue, here we have one of the nutters...", "Somebody is playing Counter-Strike.", "Yes. Yes I do.\n\nCNN is left leaning pro corporate news, but generally does a decent job of fact checking. I use it, but I'm extra cautious of sources that lean in my direction.", "Of course this is getting downvoted rofl I expected nothing less", "The name is a portmanteau. Federal is still there, only as shorthand. Abbreviating a word doesn't eliminate it.", "Nah we’re just going to say no to 2022 and anything beyond.\n\nIt’s just 2019.3 forever", "I have memories of discussing this stuff while Obama was president.", "Dude, you clearly weren't very good if you worked at a bank for that long end you've never heard of the federal reserve, geez.", "And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking, racing around to come up behind you again. The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older, shorter of breath and one day closer to death.", "Obama was still president in November 2016 when Pizzagate became a thing. So that particular memory is correct.", "It's not super ok to describe the BLM protests like that.", "Makes me feel old", "Classic", "You gotta press the secret button on the pepperoni pizza to get access to the basement.", "I think it goes to show that maybe not much has changed, just the way it is portrayed in the media has changed. Network News wins when everything is a unprecedented catastrophe.", "I'm sorry do you have a computer on the other side of a wall? Do you not keep your computer near a wall? Is it suspended in midair? Or did you put a bullet proof vest on your computer?\n\nLol this is such a lame \"gotcha\" you have to see that", "Too many angry people with tiny penises these days", "Ha I watched this episode last night. Aged quite well lol", "bait harder", "I used to work at a FedEx Office. This gave me some PTSD flashbacks.", "I like the [strong woman competition](https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig) too.", "Does foreskin count as length? If so, stretched or stretched? On a table or gravity hang?", "Dude, You clearly didn't catch the \"/s\"* at the end of my comment. Too funny you thought I was serious.", "Cartman does scream \"jews\" in hate. No other words just \"jews\". Saw a post on r/hermancainaward not 30 minutes ago in which an award recipient's last post was simply \"jews\". \n \nProbably not exactly what you meant. But it was so on the nose, i had to mention it. \n \nEdit https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/qctjcd/this_herman_cain_award_recipients_final_public", "I stated a simple fact, you can choose to reject it, but that doesn’t make it less of a fact.", "What does a limo have anything to do with it? The Alamo was an inside job.", "This is exactly like the people protesting outside the nytimes and yelling to defund the media", "I applaud your grace", "I thought it was pretty obvious I was kidding. Clearly it wasn't. The geez would have given away I'd think, but the downvotes suggest otherwise. I'd already read and chuckled at your edit on the first post. 😂", "I have not once had an economics professor not treat the Fed as the section of the US government that handles monetary policy.", "Oh Cartman…you are a legend.", "wow...I was sure it was brand new.", "Any scene with Randy is always great lol", "Someone worked it out and as the length, width and girth go down this equation works to make the size go up, so the smaller the penis the bigger it is. Matt and Trey are geniuses.\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/southpark/comments/6azr7z/i_decided_to_look_into_randys_tmi_scale/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf", "> The Covid vaccine is so Bill Gates can microchip and track everyone\n\nWeirdly, this is the one that I find stupidest. Because Bill Gates doesn't need to microchip everyone through vaccines, we _willingly carry the microchips with us_.", "Prophetic", "Cause Free Speech is dangerous doncha' know.\n\nThere used to be a time where you could tell a man to jump off a cliff, and no one would blame you if he did it.\n\nDo you remember? Pepperidge Farm Remembers.", "Half? You're very generous.", "The witch sounds a bit like Alan Rickman.", "wayyyy more than half, at least 95% or more is anti-vax covid BS or just screenshots of tweets from conservative grifters like Charlie Kirk or Candace Owens", "Randy at this point is Homer Simpson.\n\nGeologist, Terrorist, Lobbyist, International Traveler, Political Prisoner, Entrepreneur, Musical Genius, Witch, Celebrity Chef, Game Show contestant, TV Host…and I’m loving every minute of it.", "I'm shipping a package out to Wasagamack, Manitoba. Canada can be remote as hell too.", "Except that he only fired one bullet and it hit the server sure, I didn’t say I was getting anyone I said it was interesting, lighten up", "This is the one that comes to mind far too often. The utter ridiculousness of it, isn't so ridiculous anymore.", "Thanks. Nothing better than to learn something new and be more educated today than you were yesterday. Being wrong is an important part of life!", ">0-20 should be about education, 20-40 should be about being productive, 40-60 should be about being a leader, 60-80 should be you being a hermit\n\nWhat a silly place.", "Can’t tell if this is a good joke or….", "Subtlety isn't always apparent to me in the written word, it lacks the intonation in the voice, the wry expression on the face or the body language. Anyway thanks for your comment and I'm glad you enjoyed the edit.", "Conservatives in a nutshell", "FedEx Total Landscaping", "This is an old episode. They are angry because their penis size fall below the national average", "That aged so well", "Then argue it. You said the \"Federal Reserve was made private\". That's obviously not correct. You're now arguing something completely different, that the 1951 accord in some way changed everything about how the Federal Reserve operates. Given that you were clearly already entirely wrong about the subject, it's unlikely that you're suddenly going to strike gold, but this is Reddit, everyone gets second chances. Explain how an institution who remits all profits to the US Treasury and whose governors are entirely chosen by the US President and approved by the Senate is entirely separate from the federal government.", "I wouldn't trust the Congress with a puppy much less control of all US monetary policy. Even Donald Trump mostly appointed smart, experienced people to the Federal Reserve board of governors until the latter half of his term when he started appointing gold bugs and fucking Herman Cain, because why the fuck not. Own the libs.", "The Federal Reserve Board of Governors is as much a part of the federal government as is the post office, the SEC, or the EPA. The fact that it is deliberately independent from direct meddling from the President or Congress is a feature, not a bug. The Supreme Court's decisions do not have to be approved by the President or anyone else in the executive or legislative branches either.", "Seems like the exact opposite to me. Putting the US's monetary policy under the direct control of the President or the Congress is, to put it mildly, a bad idea.", "and 'the new algorithm' is a search technique thats been around since vacuum tubes and is taught in intro to CS classes.", "So what you're saying is that I might as well write fuck the fed on all my checks", "I think the fact that Minh Le is somehow called the \"cocreator\" of Counter-Strike is a massive injustice. He's the creator of Counter-Strike. Cliffe didn't do shit. Gooseman was 100% the guy who created Counter-Strike.", "But you're the federal exchange!", "It's kinda the opposite, but\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJp-roulVsA\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTwpBLzxe4U", "longer, this is Gingrich era BS, think Ken Starr.\n\nTea party takeover by Mercer and Kochs, this tactic is 40 years in the making.", "A more impactful solution would be to set the mayor's private residence as a forwarding address for all the junk mail he's been getting and see if anything happens", "So the government as a result got involved and added more delays", "You don't know that\n\nI'm sure somebody over there would see the top post in r/videos", "> Their endless labeling of Trump as a \"Russian agent\" was proven to be nothing but a fabricated conspiracy.\n\nI can't help but notice you're not actually arguing against anything /u/mattyp11 said in his post. Are you acknowledging that everything he said is correct? Kinda feels like you're being very specific in your rebuttal, that Trump himself isn't personally an avowed Russian agent.", "> look at all the respectable conservative publications like National Review and politicians (Mitt Romney off the top of my head, but plenty more) who went to the ends of the earth to refute the hoax\n\nJust to be clear, you're referring to the same Mitt Romney who voted to impeach the previous Republican president for inciting insurrection against the United States government?", "Boutin montair!", "Yes. Is there another Mitt Romney?", "It's not a fact. Presuming you're referring to Malik Obama, he's stated previously that he first met his brother in 1985. He later provided a 1961 birth certificate for his brother from the Republic of Kenya, which is decidedly odd since the Republic of Kenya didn't exist until 1964. The state of Hawaii, which, unlike the Republic of Kenya, existed in 1961, has stated in no uncertain terms that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.\n\nNot to mention the whole claim that Barack Obama Sr persuaded Ann Dunham to go back to Kenya to have their baby seems pretty odd given that he was already married to someone in Kenya who he was keeping secret from Ann. But hey, some guy said it, so despite the nonexistence of the country in question and despite the plain incentive that everyone involved had not to do it, sure, he and his very pregnant wife flew halfway around the world to have his kid in Kenya for no apparent reason. Based on the word of one guy whose only evidence is plainly falsified. Why not? It's a fact.", "The stupid have always existed. Previously to reach a broad audience you had to be smart enough to have a book published, now anyone can just mash some buttons while sitting on the toilet.", "Nobody said direct control? \n\nChecks and balances are an important thing for any sort of government entity.\n\nEven though the federal government has done a shit job keeping things balanced and in check, doesn't mean we should forgo checks and balances entirely.", "Fuck really? Killed me at the end. South Park was way ahead of its time at this episode.", "I don't know what I mean.\n\nAlso, fuck the fed.", "Once again, FWIW Obama’s brother has stated that they were born, and grew up together in Kenya. It is a FACT that he has stated that.\n\nThat’s all my claim was…\n\nNo need to go disproving things I didn’t claim.", "If that would have happened last year I wouldn't be surprised", "I accept the findings of the Mueller report. What I care about is that I heard \"Trump is a Russian agent\" or something approximating that sentence roughly a thousand fucking times across the two year period, and it was shown to be untrue. It would end discussions on this site, get hundreds or thousands of upvotes and awards. 'Um sweetie, your president is literally a Russian agent.' x7 Gold x5 Silver -- For two fucking years I'd see comments like that on this site and across social media in general. But of course, the left never partakes in \"batshit conspiracies\" even when they do.", "Who we are is not important Mr UPS man….\n\nOh wait wrong episode. This is yo mang my momma be pissin me off mang", "https://youtu.be/Q9frVTgoKSI", "They're too busy trying to cancel Dave Chappell", "I mean... It's not that unreasonable of an assumption?", "Fight the good fight, fuck the haters", "A slight correction. Ungodly amount are stupid and armed to the teeth. Luckily, a lot of them are just smart enough to not invade the capitol. The ones that did are the cream of that crop. Over time that number may grow.", "It would have been more apparent that you were joking if your post contained a joke.", "In the South Park episode about ‘raising the bar’, Trey and Matt question if they shoulder some of the blame for the lowering of the bar. Clips like this from the show would seem to be in line with that but I think they just have their finger on the pulse and don’t shy from the truth", "But... but... ponies!", "FEDERAL Express. It’s in the name. It’s not that hard to believe that someone would think it’s a FEDERAL agency.", "yea good one buddy. that one felt iffy even by your low standards i bet. you trash ass waste of life", "south park is the perfect show.\n\nbecause its based on real events and peoples reactions, they will never run out of or have dry content.\n\ngenius idea.", "It's only a fact Obama's Trump supporting half-brother made the batshit allegation, it's not a fact that Obama was actually born in Kenya, which is in fact still batshit and his brother's claim was so stupid [it was easily debunked](http://www.mwakilishi.com/article/kenya-news/2020-06-16/malik-obama-tweets-fake-barack-obamas-kenyan-birth-certificate). \n\nBut the fact that you bring it up here means you must still believe it's true, otherwise why would you even bring up the nonsense about the easily disproven claim?", "I know this to be a lie, as every conservative joke I have ever witnessed has been completely dumb, unfunny, and just generally disconnected from reality. It is known.... That conservatives have no sense of humor", "This is an outrage.", "I'm not falling for that one again", "Hand daddy his brain medicine", "after all that disgusting shit that was the last four years under trump, only 25% of repubs want him removed from politics lol. the \"reasonable conservative\" (aka at least not a trumptard) is considered fringe among repubs now. the romney/mccain/kasich type conservatives are considered fringe, if not downright \"RINOS\". this is what the republican party has become, that is their MAINSTREAM position\n\n&#x200B;\n\nthe MAINTREAM of repubs has been radicalized after trump. people need to realize quicker that a lot of american conservatives are now too far gone, what with all the horseshit they receive from top down (gym jordan/fox news)", "the people who chose the name \"Federal Express\" is at least partially to blame here..", "Back when south park was at its peak.", "I thought of this too its so mental.", "whats ironic about it? not that you'll answer, i know yall's type. fyi, you're a disgusting trash person.\n\nbtw, the southpark clip was talking about ur kind. obama birth certificate lmfao", "Because you're so angry.", "No, it's because on 4chan people would put spoiler on their image posts so people would have to click to see it. A person would say something like I'm posting CP which typically means child pornography. However when a person opened it they would see a picture of cheese pizza instead.\n\nIt would be a terrible fucking code if it was that obvious just because CP is an initialization for both.", "I think that's why South Park kinda lost it's appeal to me. It's social commentary used to be so out there but in recent years real life became too much like a South Park episode so the show just seems like slightly overplayed stories that might very well be in the news.", "should he not be?", "It was before then in my memory. Maybe I misremember it.\n\nEither way I think we can agree that Hollywood and Washington have been making cheese pizza for a long time.", "2011, but it feels like 2021 because the Tea Party morphed into Qanon.", "Welcome to Reddit, I Miss you.", "Did the Obama birth certificate not give it away for you?", "It's absolute bullshit. The whole \"tolerance and kindness\" thing is completely hypocritical. If you complain about people mocking men with small penises, they just reply with \"lol you must have one too, small dick!\" or almost worse yet, they simply shrug it off with \"oh well it's not a big deal who cares.\" Real fucking easy to say when you aren't the target of mockery from virtually all of society. While I don't have a small penis, I am bald and get shit from that angle all the time which even though I've grown some thick skin to, it still is a point of soreness so I can sympathize with the men who are hurt by little dick jokes. Again, something completely beyond a person's control and yet it's considered fair game to ridicule someone over. Complete hypocrisy from these people.", "> Even if they have a small dick the only reason they would try to compensate for it is because of fragile/toxic masculinity--which this insult directly reinforces because again small dick = bad.\n\nThis is the completely ironic part about the whole thing. Their whole \"le small dick energy\" comments only reinforces the very same \"toxic masculinity\" they're ridiculing. It's a closed loop circuit that will never change because the reality is they never were trying to elevate the world to something better, only take out their own inadequacies and frustrations on lesser fortunate men aka easier targets.", "And for most other people new means the last couple episodes not ELEVEN years ago", "I thought that one would be funny, filled with memes and shit. Instead of it's absolutely horrific.", "Bc they refuse to be audited on their decision making and are governed by private institutions and seek no approval for monetary matters in the supposed interest of the country or better yet their banks' interests. Personal profits within its council like organization have nothing to do with it being practically in the interests of gigantic multinationals and not the interests of the public.", "They make a cartoon man, I don’t think they’re trying to change anything. They entertain.", "I mean, that's exactly what makes it parody.", "South Park does not disappoint. They turn the mirror back on these idiots who have lost all common sense.", "I love me some Ted Nugent.", "Also, didn't he start birtherism, or amplify it at the very least?", "What did the Surgeon General do in 2011?", "Being mad at stuff you shouldn't be... So hot right now.", "\"Like, Retirement in Peace man\"", "Honestly probably more like 2007 for me, though I know it's evolved quite a bit since then.", "I saw jbaum303 go into the supermarket, put tomatoes down his pants and squish them until a janitor had to escort him out and clean up the mess.\n\nIt's a simple fact. Just because you reject it happened, doesn't make my statement less of a fact.\n\nYou are not nearly as clever as you think", "Those are downvotes from qanon", ">new episodes \n \nI wish! In the last two years they've released two episodes (\"specials\").", "thanks for letting us all know you are a horrible piece of shit", "because you idiots are literally destroying democracy", "Is this the tiny penis episode?", "It's not. OP spends too much time reading what idiots write online vs what goes on in the real world.", "I immediately knew this was from and older season because it was funny.", "Well the left wing isn't that far on the nutjob scale. Remember the jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams crap.", "Honestly, knowing these types of people they would still ask for it, even today.", "False equivalence. First, I don't recall that specifically being pushed by the left back then, but even if it was, that's one batshit conspiracy theory from 20 years ago, compared to the litany of batshit conspiracy theories being pumped out by the right on a constant basis. And I even forgot a bunch from the right in my list, such as Sandy Hook and Parkland shootings being false flag operations and QAnon batshittery.\n\nBottom line, when it comes to concocting absolute nutter bullshit, the right is so far ahead of the left that it's no contest.", "You forgot one\n\n* And Jews", "I've been checking that sub semi-regularly for over a decade. It's waxed and waned but has at no point in time every been not completely insane. At least they no longer have a picture of Hitler on the sidebar that links to a Neo Nazi site. I was banned from their a while ago by a former mod that also was the mod of a bunch of white supremacist subreddits and ran a couple of racist blogs.", "Yeah, I forgot a bunch like Sandy Hook and parkland shootings being false flag operations, and QAnon, which is an entire subset of batshit conspiracy theories onto itself.", "> …write \"fuck the fed\" on the comment line on his checks. I told him the federal government has nothing to do handling his check transaction\n\nlol okay. \n\nIt’s your story, you can add as many additional details after the fact to clarify whatever you want but people were not “dumb” for thinking that’s what you meant given what you wrote. \n\nIt’s a bad look to blame others for your own miscommunication. Instead insinuating everyone else is at fault by saying you need to “dumb it down” why don’t you take a dispassionate look at yourself.", "Yeah, hahahahaha.", "That about sums up the current state of affairs.", "I would call it mid-90s", "Was this Washington Federal?", "They are not “governed by private institutions” in any way, shape, or form. They clearly state the reasons for their decision making. And no, they seek no approval - that’s a feature, not a bug. The Supreme Court doesn’t check in with anyone either. They are designed to be independent of the politics of the government.\n\nAnd of course you didn’t even try to explain how the accord you brought up had anything to do with anything.", "So basically, you acknowledge that the workings of the Trump campaign were filled with Russian influence and that multiple people including Trump’s son met with Russian agents, but your argument is that Trump wasn’t literally a signed-up Russian agent working for the KGB? That’s exactly where you’re at?", "I actually can’t find any source for that. Regardless, it is also a fact that he said he didn’t meet Obama until 1985.", "Checks and balances like governors with a limited term of office appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate? Be specific - what are you asking for here?", "You’re pointing at a person who literally voted to impeach the President as an example of conservative ideals. You’re deep into no true Scotsman territory. The modern conservative movement is, in fact, on board the Trump train and all in on conspiracy theories. Saying they’re not REAL conservatives is like Christians fighting over communion.", "Governed as in comprised of private institutions that operate in their own interests and no, they are not at all transparent about their decision making policy in regards to monetary policy. The accord ensured the independence from Congress in this exact realm, where they could've implemented other means of regulations and regulatory bodies", "I'm \"at\" the place where everyone in politics is corrupt, but Trump himself wasn't corrupt in the way the left insisted he was for two years straight. The left was wrong. Their claims were false.", "No worries, clearly my explanation was no more well received than my original comment. Alas, I am not half as funny as I sometimes think I am.", "Their “claims” were not wrong - you’re only talking about the one very specific claim, remember? You’ve acknowledged that the campaign was riddled with Russian influence, so if you’re fine with that because Trump either knew about it but hid the evidence or just had no idea what was going on in his own campaign, you’re welcome to it, I suppose.", "Thanks for the pro tip.", "The claim that they are “not at all transparent” is based in simple ignorance. They are entirely transparent in what they are doing and why - they explain their decisions in detail.\n\nAn accord between two executive bodies cannot ensure independence from Congress - that’s ludicrous. Congress could abolish the Fed with a stroke of the pen tomorrow, and can make whatever regulations or regulatory bodies they choose.\n\nAnd the claim that the Fed is “comprised of private institutions that operate in their own interests” is again flatly wrong. Presuming that you’re referring to Reserve Banks, they’re set up superficially similarly to private companies but were created by law and are entirely governed by the board of governors, which is in fact a government agency whose members are appointed by the President. Again, Congress can entirely change or abolish the Fed, including the reserve banks, whenever they want to. The claim that it’s a private institution is utter hogwash. And the claim that they operate in their own interests is completely meaningless - their interest is the dual mandate of maximum employment and stable prices.", "I only care about that specific claim, because it's the claim I saw roughly a thousand times. This calculated nuance never had a home before the Mueller report, when the left was forced to adopt it. The left said that Trump was a Russian agent, countless times, for two years straight.", "And indeed he was a Russian agent, whether he knew it or not. I’m not even sure what you’re trying to argue here - you’re literally happily acknowledging that Trump was just dangling from Russia’s puppet strings because you think it owns the libs somehow. This is genuinely hilarious.", "He wasn't a Russian agent and you can't prove otherwise.", "> In this situation, we need to be the bigger person, even if it doesn't feel right.\n\nI'm not out actively calling everyone a QAnon moron, even anonymously on this platform, but 2 people I care about and respect nearly died from COVID because they refused to get the vaccine. An older, very conservative couple I know living in rural KY, the husband nearly died, has had to have a pace maker put in, and must be on oxygen for the next 6 months at least. They STILL insist its \"all political\" and think Trump is the best thing to happen to this country. They're both retired and until 2020 raised cows and other livestock, all of which they had to sell when the husband got sick. I'm sad about my friends and angry at the people that filled them with so many lies, that out of respect I won't openly refute in their company because frankly I don't want to lose them as friends. I'm just so tired of people who don't give a fuck about the people they're killing and the entire movement / group needs to be completely delegitimized so something better, or at least grounded in reality, can take its place.", "Is FedEx not a gov-agency..?", "Truthfully it’s a self-selecting group of people with severe, untreated mental illness. When t_d shut down it was where they all went", ">Maybe I misremember it.\n\nYou do.\n\n>Either way I think we can agree that Hollywood and Washington have been making cheese pizza for a long time.\n\n[Sure, but you were talking about Pizzagate, the ridiculous debunked conspiracy theory that had nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory) Pizzagate was not a catchall term for powerful pedophiles. And that's one of the lies that Pizzagate/Qanon is founded on, that pedophilia is only practiced by the rich and powerful. Family members, family friends, trusted authority figures (priests, teachers, coaches, etc.) - these are the people most likely to abuse the average child. But that's not very comforting, is it?", "No, Washington Federal was a savings and loan. I worked for a major national bank.", "Last I checked you fuckwits spent four years claiming Russia cheated Trump into office.", "I'm going to give you some credit for your criticism and take \"a dispassionate look\" at myself\" as you suggest. However... I was trying to relate just a short and simple and (hopefully)humorous anecdote as it related to the post, I was not prepared for anyone to begin dissecting the statement for accuracy or present their assumptions about the intricate details of the situation or to bring into question my competency and experience. \n\nWhat I have come away with is, if I ever in the future relate an experience such as: \"I was walking down the street one day and tripped over a cat.\" I should be prepared to provide details on what color the cat was, whether I was walking down the street or really meant the sidewalk, determine if the cat was dead or being chased by a dog, whose cat it was, mine or a stray cat, it was probably injured and did I take it to the vet... and a hundred other questions that Redditor commentors seem to be able to pull out of thin air. \n\nI will in the future refrain from relating any anecdotal experience germane to any OP's post about any subject as apparently people are not capable of just enjoying the comment on face value but instead generate a string of discussion and contention that apparently sets people off. \n\nHappy now?", "Yep, just like everything else most of us do, nobody cares.", "That’s not something you can discuss with blanket conversations like the encouraged pedophilia and human trafficking in Hollywood and Washington. That’s something that needs individual attention on individual occurrences.", "Yeah I read further into it, the comment I replied to was a bit reductionary. \n\nThough it's worth noting that while the Board of Governors is appointed by the president and confirmed by the senate, the presidents of the 12 district federal banks are not, and 5 of the 12 vote on monetary policy.\n\n14 year terms for the Board of Governors also seems excessive. \n\nThere also seems to be issues with the transparency of the FOMC. While they release transcript reports to the public/senate, there have been times when they forgo them entirely or even have 'legally' purged and edited transcripts before submitting them to the Senate. \n\nSo like most of our system, the checks and balances can be ineffectual to say the least at times.", "It's probably not something you should be discussing at all since you're completely ignorant on this subject.", "Probably something anyone could talk about because conversation with more knowledgeable people is a great way to learn things. Maybe the whole “stay quiet” attitude you’re adopting will only encourage more ignorance in the world and the fact that you seem to be hell bent on attacking me doesn’t make me feel like you’re a very reliable source.", "> people are not capable of just enjoying the comment on face value but instead generate a string of discussion and contention that apparently sets people off\n\nI think that sums up Reddit in general. My original comment was so snarky because your story was criticizing the ignorance of a customer in your bank while you initially appeared to share the same ignorance, and so to me it looked like hypocrisy and you became the “bad guy” of your story, for me. \n\nBut you’re right. I don’t know you or the wider context or if the customer was deserving of ridicule. It was ignorant of me to passive aggressively criticize you. And just assume you were being malicious towards someone. I’m sorry.", "I trust the Obama family, do you? Especially over “mwakilishi.com”\n\nI don’t really care where he was born tbh, or what his religion is. I just don’t think it’s the best example of a “right wing conspiracy theory” when his own blood brother has maintained for decades that he and Barack grew up together in Kenya.", "Are you my brother?", "Thats a fact... trumps campaign manager gave polling data to a high ranking Russian official , putin had thousands of online agents fomenting discord and spreading fake news. his national security advisor had to register as a foreign agent and talked to the russian ambassador during the campaign. THERE IS SO MUCH EVIDENCE RUSSIA HELPED TRUMP WIN ITS FUCKING RIDICULOUS", "Here you go friend https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/barack-obama-half-brother-malik-kenya-birth-certificate-tweet-donald-trump-supporter-a7622346.html", "Can you quote me exactly where in that article that it says they “grew up together in Kenya” as you said twice?", "Did you read the article? You want me to wipe your ass for you too?", ">online agents fomenting discord and spreading fake news.\n\nLike you? Got it.", "lol… that’s a no, then. Guess it wasn’t so much a FACT after all.", "America bad.", "Oh, you trust the Obama family do you? Then I guess you should trust, oh I don't know, literally every other fucking member of his family except this one half brother who tweeted a badly doctored and completely debunked phony birth certificate? Including [Obama's Kenyan sister who told this Trump supporting half brother to quit his bullshit](https://citizen.digital/news/auma-obama-calls-out-brother-malik-over-fake-barack-obama-birth-certificate-335849/).\n\nFunny how you don't believe literally every other member of Obama's family, but you DO believe the one Trump supporting half brother who has posted easily debunked bullshit.\n\nSo yeah, like I said, you're exactly one of the fucking nutters I was talking about.", "no like hundreds of people on computers with a concerted plan to convince stupid americans that trump was great and hillary drank babies blood.... they were really effective.. just look at you .", "Yeah, no, your logic is that Russia planned to divide America by checks notes supporting the president.", "YOU ARE INSANE it started before he was president. they didnt divide america by supporting the president they divded us by spreading blatant lies.", "Sure buddy, whatever you say.", "well its well documented ... the russian hack farm \" the internet research agency\" literally is behind all the crazy shit the right believes.", "Dude… I’ve stated this several times now. I don’t care where the guy was born lol.\n\nI simply stated what his brother has alleged. Stop twisting my words.", "I'm not twisting your words, I'm using exactly your words. Here, let me refresh your shockingly short memory. You just said in your previous post:\n\n>I trust the Obama family, do you? Especially over “mwakilishi.com”\n\nSo you just stated that you trust and believe Obama's half brother over all the other evidence. Over all Obama's other family members. Over the clear evidence debunking the half-brother's claims. You still believe him. That's what you said. \"I trust the Obama family\".\n\nOh, and you also said this:\n\n>I just don’t think it’s the best example of a “right wing conspiracy theory” when his own blood brother has maintained for decades that he and Barack grew up together in Kenya.\n\nYet it's exactly a right wing conspiracy theory when the half brother in question is a fervent right wing Trump supporter, and with Trump being the person who pushed the whole Obama birther bullshit in the first place. \n\nYou can try to squirm out of it any way you want, but your own words betray you. It is indeed very much a right wing bullshit conspiracy, it has been thoroughly debunked, and yet here you still are claiming you \"trust\" Obama's half brother, which means you DO believe that bullshit.", "Not reading this lol", "Right wing nutter sticking his head in the sand? Yep, sounds about right lol", "it's not a big truck!", "Lol that you think I’m a right-winger.", "Lol that you admitted you believe a batshit right wing Trump loving conspiracy theorist.", "Oh shit. I guess that explains the obama birth certificate joke.", ">This video contains content from LDS, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.\n\nWell I guess I finally found a downside to being an american", "Nah, we cranked down the reality and cranked up the fiction", "RIP South Park", "Haha, I, too, have seen the video!", "Yeah it bothers me how a lot of people use having small dick and small dick energy as an insult. Ive even seen those people who are against body shaming do it. Its like everyones against body shaming except when it comes to dicks. It sucks, theres nothing wrong with having a small dick", "I agree, it’s hypocritical. I think people will eventually realize it but they’ll need to keep having it pointed out to them.", "What?", "It used to be way funnier, but now it’s mostly pop culture jokes. Kinda happens to every show tho", "fuck the fed", "Well, since Dave Chapelle is apparently now a hateful, alt-right extremist and probably the greatest living comic on the planet, that shoots your little theory up, doesn't it?", "I've met way more ultra conservatives who believe 9/11 conspiracies than liberals these days. Ever since Trump became a thing Qanon types have despised Bush and the neocons they voted into office 20 years ago.", "His half brother is demonstrably and clearly lying.", "Was this a Qanon rally video?", "How does one conjure up a required room that is a sex dungeon filled with minors in a non-incriminating way?" ]	681	videos	South Park - Fedex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE_9n6-DQyI	/r/videos/comments/qcsrs7/thps_combos_in_real_life/	[ "I fucking love this part of skateboarding, either a flip into a grind or a grind into a flip, or both at the same grind. It looks so fucking cool. So this is just insane", "When I was a kid (90s) it was wild to see someone do a flip trick into a grind. And obviously in '99 Tony Hawk broke the industry with the 900. \n\nNow people are doing real life goddamn combos on rails. And it was already hard enough to go pro back in the day. \n\nThat all being said, I love watching this stuff because it's just absolutely nuts.", "wow awesome." ]	3	videos	THPS combos in real life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMtrY6lbjcY	/r/videos/comments/qctia0/is_your_privacy_an_illusion_taking_on_big_tech/	[ "The answer is yes. Privacy is not an option, you have been tracked since the use of electronic transactions started in the late 80's or early 90's. Every \"club\" card is designed to collect demographic information on the end user, just like websites do today. You have no real privacy.", "And your life is the exact same", "Exactly.", "It's a cool idea. Sending sensitive information has always been a pain in the ass, and you're just hoping the person on the other end deletes it once they're done. End to end encryption can't come soon enough. These companies to store so much data and there are so many data hacks and leaks.", "do i trust them? no. do i care? no. as long as you aren't taking my money, i dont give a shit.", "I'm bit confused, how is this going to change metadata? how is it going to change the tracking of click/watch behaviors? Also to revoke the access to 'my' data the other side would have to acknowledged it wouldn't it? \nI hope more stuff will be covered in detail in next videos", "You're the only one in the comments who actually watched it so far.", "So when/how do we convince cell companies to offer a good dumb-phone that can text and call?", "A German Jew around 1920 might have said the same. Less than 20 years later these same people were systematically murdered in Concentration Camps together with socialists, communists, gays, Sinti and Roma, disabled people, priests and many more. Imagine if the Nazi Regime had access to data that you so willingly give up today ( or look at what's happening to Uhigurs under the Chinese Regime ).", "ah, yes. so... google knowing i went to a burger joint for lunch means i'm like a jewish person pre-holocaust.", "This sentiment right here. This apathetic viewpoint of, \"I don't care, I have nothing to hide\" or \"it doesn't affect me\"...it's the reason these companies keep eroding our privacy one earmark at a time.", "If you willingly give something, it's not their fault", "I'm terribly disappointed in Destin's conduct here. Instead educating people on existing, proven solutions for privacy problems, he promotes his own company for his own profit. The 4Privacy project has not yet provided any plausible proof of a real product. Don't fall for the storm of buzzwords. Learn how to protect your privacy with free and open source software today: [https://privacyguides.org](https://privacyguides.org)", "OK so unpopular opinion: it's your fault. The consumer. \n \nPGP works... Tor works... encryption works... and it's easy to use if you just get educated about it. \n \nYou don't need to rely on anyone for your digital privacy. You don't need to trust your government or trust private businesses. You're actually more powerful than them. There are freely available, accessible, open source algorithms and cryptosystems out there that are unbroken at the highest military grade level. The problem is that people don't know about these things. \n \nYou should always assume that whenever you use a computer that you don't physically control (ie. the web, cloud services, social media, email, phone lines) that all the data you send to or through that computer is being stolen. So, be careful what you send and if you don't want anyone but the intended recipient to read it, then fucking encrypt it yourself. It's not hard. Don't expect Signal or Telegram or whoever else to do it for you. \n \n/libertarian rant \n \nedit: perhaps I was downvoted for being too angry/accusative. Really though I'd like to hear anyone say how I'm wrong.", "I’d say it’s worth thinking about, and caring about. The use of data to drive what we see and the world around us starts to creep dangerously close to algorithmically driven determinism, the manipulation of the individual’s reality, thought processes, and decision making. Sure they have access to mundane stuff and that is relatively harmless on an individual level.\n\nYour entire existence is being categorized on an individual level and then you are served what will keep you engaged the longest. In some regards this means you have everything custom tailored your needs, making your life more convenient, but it also has a much darker side in social media.\n\nWhether you like it or not, you are part of the marketplace of ideas and your engagement is product to sites like Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit. Keeping your attention means grouping you with like minded people, signal boosting your own insecurities and amplifying radical behavior within your echo chamber. On its own you have a slippery slope, but when your privacy is for sale, it gives whoever wants to pay for priority to unfettered access to ideological microcosms and ultimately influence over an individual’s perceptions of reality.", "https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/24/child-identity-theft-is-a-growing-and-expensive-problem.html\n\nDamn those 6 year olds! Don't they know they are more powerful than private business and governments? If only these kids would properly educate themselves and protect themselves with their power!", "This follow up video goes into what they're actually trying to achieve.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy6STq337qo\n\nIt sounds like the current technology that they're asking money for is not only to prevent digital \"wire tapping\", but primarily allowing the sender of data the control access to that data.\n\nSo as it stands right now, if you attach a document to an e-mail/facebook message/text (even on an encrypted app like Signal), you've instantly lost control of that document because you have given the recipient absolute control of their copy of that document. If they choose to upload that document somewhere without your permission, they can.\n\nWhat they are hoping to achieve is allowing the recipient to view a document, but not allowing them to copy it. Basically the document remains encrypted and only viewable in this new app (from what I understand - they may have a larger goal of simply making this a protocol so that it can be widely adopted). If the sender revokes access, they no longer can see the document. If the recipient requests a hard copy, a request will be sent to the sender.", "~~I expect you'll be downvoted like I was lol.~~ One day the people will awaken and realise their power! \n \nI'm sure the 4Privacy thing has good intentions and good people working on it. But yeah, the best thing to do is to get educated on what's already out there, because there are already enough tools to protect oneself, and in fact there have been for decades now.", ">PGP works... Tor works... encryption works...\n\nGot that encryption software loicense, citizen?", "Very disappointed in him on this\n\nHe's been teasing this video for MONTHS, how he's gonna make a lot of companies sooooo mad at him\n\nand it's an ad for a kickstarter. A FUCKING KICKSTARTER. \n\nthe fuck", "yep, super pissed by this. He's been teasing this for months and it's all for a dumb kickstarter", "You're misconstruing my argument. What you have for lunch will hardly have any lasting consequences. However, the fact that you previously interacted with r/conspiracy, r/AskTrumpSupporters and r/Conservative could (hopfully won't) get you in trouble in the future. Maybe you've previously voiced support of certain humanitarian groups, political ideologies or critiqued actions of governments? Many things that seem innoucious today could land you in a Concentration Camps in the future at worst or have you classified as a second class citizen at best.", "👉BLOCKCHAIN👈", "Of course he misconstrued your argument. You can tell he's dumb as a door by the dumb thing he said. And then you replied with a nuanced argument that's honestly quite easy to misconstrue. Wasted some good typing there, mate.", "Protecting your privacy is really pointless unless people move away from social media. Too much information is being given out because people are all about the \"look at me!\" movement. The companies have figured out how to monetize our data and combined it with our eagerness to share personal information then personal privacy is really a doomed concept. \n\nPeople under estimate the technology that is already out there that no only gathers and collects your information but the technology that can process the information to create a profile that can be used in many ways.", "So somehow you're surprised that a guy who is on youtube to try and make himself more well known is promoting his product versus the 'big tech companies'?", "You'd be surprised how much of this is available with licenses that aren't as restrictive as the ones that are popular. FOSS is a thing, and quite popular in these circles.", "Except E2EE doesn't fix most of what he talks about. E2EE only works for peer to peer communication. But when you use stuff like social media, search engines and hosted services, your peer is literally the BigTech who will gladly record what you did and the associated metadata.\n\nE2EE + ACL doesn't mititage against unsecure devices on the recipient's end. For example, screen readers (screenshot + OCR), hijacked libraries that the application would inevitably use (libpng/jpeg/ev) or w/e the mobile ecosystem equivalent is etc can still compromise the data. \n\nAll E2EE really works against is MITM attacks and why its gained traction for P2P messaging.\n\nAnd finally, given the size of BigTech, unless people are pouring billions if not trillions into that Kickstarter, or voting extremely progressively, none of this will really impact data being the new oil.", "The first ~12 minutes are pretty dang good, and he brings up a lot of points on tracking, privacy, and how big tech gives your data to the government without telling you (I had no idea about gag orders).\n\nMight be good to have a video which explores more solutions outside of the one thing he's working on. This just makes me want to lessen how much of myself I put online so that there isn't a good 'prediction model' that I'm giving to anyone.", "I wouldn't say Blockchain I and of itself is the answer. Now the practices behind Blockchain can help privacy. Namely asymetric encryption, but I fail to see how Blockchain offers an added layer of privacy that you have to implement a Blockchain for. Just use the encryption and leave Blockchain out of it.", "Hey, he's describing Signal!\n\nOh, he IS describing Signal.", "So to protect my privacy I need to support your research project with Kickstarter money?", "It should be noted that your disappointment regarding this video being \"for his own profit\" may be misplaced. His follow-up video on the Kickstarter mentioned that he is not receiving any proceeds, and that he's basically just the face of a project he wishes to support by advertising it to his followers.\n\nThat is unless he's a stakeholder of the 4Privacy business. Their website unfortunately does not have an About Us page, which does not inspire confidence.", "\"Even if you arent interested in our app, please fund our kickstarter, it will show companies that privacy is important\"\n\nso.. if you don't want what we have to offer, fill our pockets anyway, that'll show the big tech companies.\n\nnah", "First off, I'm not saying this is bad or useless, or anything like that. But the amount of comments on that video which essentially say OMG! Online privacy is solved! Shut up and take my money!!!1 or I signed up before I even finished the video is kind of disturbing. I mean, both of those examples are almost verbatim copies of two I picked. Parasocial relationships are fuckin weird, man.", "What's the endgame here? It seems self-hosting seems the be the only way to ensuring 4th amendment applies. We do have computers in our pockets, but serving friends' requests would hammer our battery. Sadly we don't have a good way to publish e2e encrypted posts to friends and have those show up in their feed. Perhaps regulation to force Facebook to embrace federated protocols that self-hosted platforms commonly use.", "In UK, you need to have a license to use encryption software. Prove that you're a certified IT specialist that uses this in work, just like an electrician would have to prove the right to carry a hammer around.\n\nThis has nothing to do with proprietary/open source.", "There are some great privacy-focused options available for free today. I recommend Brave web browser, ProtonMail email, and Signal messaging app.", "Usually when someone says 'license' if discussing software it's not a business license, hence the confusion. Also any country that has that restriction is asking for trouble, because I've seen plenty of folks with those kinds of certifications still do stupid ass things, and folks without do just as well.", "At what point did we assume that we were entitled to privacy in public, or that the information we give to other parties is still our own?\n\nWhen you enter virtually any retail business, you're recorded while you shop, on closed-circuit television, and those recordings are sent to a company which analyzes shopper behavior patterns to advise them on how best to lay out the store. If you participate in that store's loyalty card program, your purchases are tracked individually, and stored in a database, in exactly the same manner that an online business would.\n\nThat activity precisely what online businesses are doing with the data they obtain from customers: Keeping track of what you submit, and using it to try and improve the likelihood of making a sale.\n\nSo my question is: Why is it being proposed that online businesses are being held to a higher standard? Why is Facebook compelled to delete my data, when the mail-catalog clothing company I bought something from 15 years ago keep sending me trash in the mail, and I have no recourse to stop it?\n\nThe truth is, no amount of regulation is going to fundamentally change how Facebook or Google operates. They make too much money, they can afford the lobbyists and lawyers who will gut any regulation, and ensure that it winds up being nothing more than yet another block of legalese that nobody reads before they click 'accept terms'. Remember the EU cookie law from 2011? Congratulations: All that accomplished is to add a completely unnecessary click to every website you'll visit, for the rest of your life.", "taht's why I used exaggerated British accent", "I'm confused. Isn't what he's saying the app is LITERALLY what Signal(that he even shows in the video) or Telegram is? Send stuff, auto delete.\n\nMaybe the difference would be you can send filed (not just messages or pics) that the receiver can only view while using the 4privacy app and it gets deleted after some time or smth.\n\nAlso people use a second phone to record the screen of their first phone's snapchat all the time already, aka it doesn't actually do very much.\n\nBut most people seem to act like this is revolutionary or something (at least in the yt comments) but I'm just confused, sitting here thinking \"but this is literally telegram, no?\"\n\nIn the kickstarter video he shows paying for some service through the app, and sending medical records, but these only actually work if the company/hospital uses his app, and what the fuck is the chances of that happening?", "Their website says he's a co-founder. \n\nhttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/4privacyapp/4privacy-app/faqs\n\n\"What is Destin's role\"", "Apps that claim privacy but are closed-source should be, at best, viewed at extremely critically. At worst, avoid them.", ">It seems self-hosting seems the be the only way to ensuring 4th amendment applies.\n\nIf you encrypt data (with your own private key) before sending it to a 3rd party, they can turn it over sure, but only you can still decrypt it. And you can't be forced to do so if it would be self-incriminating.\n\n>Sadly we don't have a good way to publish e2e encrypted posts to friends and have those show up in their feed.\n\nDon't use Facebook then?", "Blockchain has been in use for years and, while not perfect (what artificial system is?), has proven to be quite secure. As a net protocol, it would allow far greater user control over what data is shared and with whom. And no need to crowdfund another approach.", "> social media\n\nIt can work for something Facebook-esque where the peers are your close friends.", "So this literally only protects you against people who UNINTENTIONALLY save it on other services (google drive etc)? If screenshotting is disabled, people can just use a second phone. It happens literally all the time currently with snapchat. Leaked pics/videos.\n\nThe video shows buying something, or sending medical records to a hospital, but those are only possible if hospitals and companies literally also use the 4privacy app? And wtf are the chances of that?", "He sets up the problem that \"Tek\" has our data, not just the data we give it explicitly but also unintentionally through using their products. (But also explicit in the ToS if most actually read them)\n\nThe problem is not really them holding our data, it's the massive amounts of other data we consent to for these products and services to be mostly \"free\".\n\nI'm curious to hear more but I am very skeptical.\n\nAlso, Kickstarter??! Kickstarter?", "You can send files with Signal or Bitwarden.\n\nAnd you don't even need to record Snapchat with another phone in most cases. It's wildly easy to do on Android or Mac OS + iPhone + QuickTime.", "Screenshots and cameras exist. Soooo.... 🤷‍♂️", ">What is Destin's Role?\n\n>Destin is a co-founder, board member, advisor and investor in our company. He certainly isn't coding!", "He's a cofounder and investor.", "You can send files, but can you revoke access like his app will? If not, that's the only thing that his app does that signal (to my knowledge, which is very limited) does.\n\nAnd I wonder if the other party needs the 4privacy app to view the files or if you generate some sort of link. Because he shows buying something from companies and sending hospitals medical records - If the receiver needs the app good luck getting companies and hospitals to do that?", "He's extremely pro-military also, what do you expect?", "Go tell me why a greater fraction of the Jewish population was murdered by Nazis in Netherlands than in Germany.", "Can someone explain to me what the product actually is? I thought this video was simply going to be educational about the history of internet privacy, then he suddenly brings up some Kickstarter he is founding. I even watched the Kickstarter video, but still am not sure what it is. From what I can tell it's some sort of E2E encrypted Dropbox/Google Drive clone?", "Do i trust them? No\nDo i use them regardless? Yes", "I dunno, I think a E2EE would make things more understandable for a layman at least. It makes a somewhat physical thing that a person can hold in their mind like a key to their front door, with as much importance. At the moment even reading the TOS for Facebook doesn't clearly tell people (not at a reasonable reading level) what you're getting into.\n\nIf we had an internet where when you connect you KNOW \"if you give out this key, this is all the things you can do with it\" would be more intuitive.\n\nsadly, I gotta agree with the last point though. You gotta give a reason for people to latch onto this. TOR probably focuses even more on anonymity. So you won't get that community. If this doesn't create more than a fad, it won't last. If it doesn't have mass adoption, it won't be useful.\n\nKickstarter is... not what I would've expected to kick this off. I would've figured changes to your phone, your habits, things you could do to reduce your footprint now.", "Bruh what are you on", "Its pretty clear, when someone malicious gets hold of the large amounts information being collected on you, its ripe for abuse.", "He says [here](https://youtu.be/Hy6STq337qo?t=176) that he's not getting any of \"this money\". Sure, Destin you don't. The Kickstarter cash might not be yours. It seems suspicious however that the product is planned to be monetized on a subscription based model (with all this talk about \"1-year of access to the app\"). I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that this monthly fee will include a not insignificant profit margin. Probably justified with crap like \"If you don't pay then you're the product.\" \"We're sending big tech a message.\" \"Help us include this clean privacy engine (what even is that lmao) in more products.\". Now. Who's pockets is that profit going to land in if not our friend, mr. co-founder, board member, advisor and investor?", "I'll tell you why. It is because Netherlands stored vastly more data on its population. The moment fascists had access to that data, they used it to commit mass murder with a frightening efficiency.\n\nSaying something like \"And your life is the exact same\" ignores atrocities like that. Just because you haven't been impacted by the existence of vast stores of data on your population doesn't mean others are not, nor does it mean that such data will not be used in ways that cause harm.", "No it cannot. E2E would imply that both peers share unique keys. So if you want to post to a group, now the entire group shares the same key. This is akin to group chats on signal, but it cannot come close to the share by default approach of social media.", "What you’re saying here is ‘I’ve been had’. By you, too, Destin.", "Good eye. Thanks for pointing that out.", "E2EE already exists. Even facebook's own WhatsApp enables it by default. So do Signal/Telegram. Even google supports E2EE w/ RCS for google messages. To counter against E2EE, it seems like Facebook still uses the decryption at edge devices to capture data and metadata around user conversations.\n\nIt is impractical and unfair to expect end users to do data management let alone key management. Ease of use/access trumps all when it comes to consumers. And again, outside of MITM on P2P conversations, I don't see how E2EE will help at all.", "I felt the same way.\n\nIt's an ad for a product that doesn't exist- and actually wouldn't solve any of the issues. It just seems like a VPN to scrub cookies without the added security features.\n\n...A product that Destin has a financial incentive to promote. I'm really disappointed in him.", "True. There is a codebase that allows app developers to at least prevent screenshots while the app is open. But, nothing can get around having a second phone/camera to take a picture of the document on a separate device. \n\nThat being said, looking into the future if something like this were widely adopted, legislation could be introduced which prohibits the storage or redistribution of a document if you have not been granted total access to it. That wouldn't prevent it entirely, but it would mitigate it.", "Lmao guy who simps for the us military now scamming his audience to buy into something he’s a fucking cofounder and investor in lmao", "Google tracking your location = Holocaust", "My understanding/expectation is that they are designing a protocol, and the 4Privacy app will simply be the first to implement it. Kind of like their version of the Signal app. Key difference between this app and Signal though is that Signal only prevents wire tapping, whereas this new app would grant access control to the sender. As far as copying without permission, I discuss that here: https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qctia0/is_your_privacy_an_illusion_taking_on_big_tech/hhj0jn8/\n\nTheoretically if this style of protocol is popular, it would simply be picked up by anyone. Kind of like how a ton of places have adopted services like DocuSign.", "Yeah thinking of that approach, in some locations there are protections from people using personal images against you, no matter how they obtained them. So expanding that to include everything?\n\nReally not sure what the best approach is besides self hosting and not using services where you and the data you create are the product.", "If there are fascists with access to that kind of data, yes. We have seen it happen.\n\nhttps://www.annefrank.org/en/anne-frank/go-in-depth/netherlands-greatest-number-jewish-victims-western-europe", "What he thinks he is promoting is a way for you to encrypt you data while it is transit and remove your data from someone else's device once you don't want them to have it any more.\n\nWhat he is really promoting is\n\nSnake Oil.\n\n.\n\nWhat he wants to do is flawed. The other end has to be able to decrypt it to read it. If they can decrypt it they can copy it. If they can copy it they can do whatever they want with it. (from a digital standpoint)\n\nIf they want to make shift on this at all it would require laws not apps that companies will not use. There are already apps for sending things to friends/family and have them be encrypted we don't need another one.", "[yep](https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/suicide-rate)\n\n[yup](https://www.publichealthpost.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/1-1-e1574099010168.png)\n\n[uhuh](https://archives.drugabuse.gov/sites/default/files/fig4-test4214.jpg)\n\n\nnothing to see here move along", "There's a million and one ways to circumvent access control like this. There is not, nor will there ever be, a way to secure control to any data after you have transmitted it to someone who has the keys to view it.\n\n\nKeybase also already has all this functionality, as does Signal, but they don't pretend that you can protect your files or messages from someone maliciously sharing them because that's impossible.", "Okay, so I haven't watched the video, but is he promising an app that lets you send sensitive information that will be deleted on both sides?\n\nBecause a) that already exists in lots of apps, and b) there is always, without exception, a way to go around that and keep the data anyways on the other side. Everyone who disputes b) is lying or does not know what they are talking about.", "I have always been disappointed with Destin's conduct in his videos. The guy has a really good job and has no reason to have so many sponsors. Its hard to take him seriously when he is shoving a mattress, audiobooks, or headphones in your face. \r\n\r\nThis is especially true for the submarine series, where the freaking US Navy allowed him amazing access to something most of us will never get to see. Yet, he goes and puts sponsored ads on all of those videos for his benefit. Thank goodness for SponsorBlock.", "I mean I was talking about adults. But you're right of course, we have to make sure we educate kids about this stuff too.", "> What they are hoping to achieve is allowing the recipient to view a document, but not allowing them to copy it.\n\nThat is not technically possible.\n\nIf you can view the document, a copy of it is on your device. Unencrypted. Because how else are you actually seeing the document right now?\n\nAnd as soon as that is the case, you can create a copy.\n\nThere may be some hurdles to get to your copy. You will have to root your phone, do some shenanigans, but it will always, without exception, be possible to make a copy.\n\nAnd I'm not even going into the very basic fact that photographs and screenshots and videos exist that can be made of anything you see.", "I know this is always easy to say in hindsight, but I’ll say it anyways:\n\nDestin/Smarter Every Day has always struck me as not genuine/inauthentic for some reason, and this just confirms those subconscious feelings for me. \n\nIt makes me feel pretty dirty that an educationally focused channel, with a HUGE focus on family oriented and accessible content, is now hawking a Kickstarter for a vaporware product that Destin has a direct financial interest in. \n\nIt feels to me like his kids and family have been used as props to show us what a “good and trustworthy guy” Destin is, and after this it feels super hollow. Maybe I’m reading too much into it but watching this put a really bad taste in my mouth. \n\nIt’s probably naive of me, but I thought if there was any corner of YouTube that was above the usual influencer cash grab, it would be this corner of educational/“non-biased” (lol) content. \n\nAgain, not surprised, but disappointed.", "Dudes, he is on Reddit. Why not just ask him instead of bashing him in this thread? u/mrpennywhistle\nTo my knowledge Destin has never done anything malicious or intentionally misleading towards his audience. He has always shown really good character. I’m sure he would be happy to answer all of your questions.", "Listening to his podcast made me realize that too. You could almost hear the decline in authenticity over time.", "You already lose control over your data if you are using a google or apple device. You lose control over your data when you use Windows or MacOSX. People don't realize what kind of meta data is being sent all the time from these devices to these companies. Using end to end encryption isn't enough, you need to change platforms at together. Using platforms that are built from the ground up for privacy, the usefulness of the device becomes lessened due to loss of support for the platform. I find this product to be playing off of people's ignorance. YOU AREN'T SAFE using products like 4Privacy.", "> But yeah, the best thing to do is to get educated on what's already out there, because there are already enough tools to protect oneself, and in fact there have been for decades now.\n\nThe point is that you shouldn't need to be an expert in these things to utilize these things. It SHOULD be given for free. \n\nTo keep with his car analogy, I could take my 1995 Honda Civic and replace the combustion engine with an electric engine; if I'm a mechanic and I know what I'm doing. If I don't, I could educate myself on how to do it then do it myself.\n\nThat's an extreme example where doing engine work on a car is a lot longer than doing any internet set up guide; but the internet is also a much faster moving piece of technology where time is a precious commodity in terms of how it runs.\n\nWeb page takes longer than 3 seconds to load? You're going to lose out to the competitor that loads in less than a second. Its just a fact. Internet users hate waiting. \n\nIf asking them to read a privacy guide and follow some steps takes literally more than a minute to get set up, hardly anyone is going to follow it. \n\nWe need to build in the new technologies and get them adopted, or enabled by default, and/or enforce it with legislation - so that when I open Chrome and sign in to reddit and have some cookies from facebook kicking around; none of that meta-data that's really concerning is leaked. \n\n--\n\nIt's not like this is a one or the other thing... You can educate yourself and protect yourself... AND support streamlining the techs to provide it so that YOU don't have to play tech support for your tech illiterate friends and family.", "I also always had that weird subconscious feeling about him. Just constant unauthentic vibes from him.", "Exactly this.", "> End to end encryption can't come soon enough.\n\nAlmost all messenger apps already use End-to-end encryption", "I think we agree. What I had in mind wasn't share by default. Although at that point maybe it shouldn't be called social media. Having not been on Facebook in many years, my understanding is that it's a site where people keep in touch with family and friends and are not speaking to the entire world like on reddit.", "Couldn't there be a social media platform where every post I create will be encrypted with the public key of each my friends. (So my client creates a separate ciphertext for each of my friends.) Then only my friends will be able to decode my posts because only they have the private key. So basically like a separate chat with each of my friends, but with nicer UI.", "No one does anything malicious or intentionally misleading until they do. Now he has as well.", "This app is an illusion of privacy when you consider the platforms they are supporting.", "He is a very religious man, so probably just doing what most religious speakers do. Suck as much money from your following as possible, and laugh all the way to the bank.", ">4PE consists of a small SDK and API that can easily be included in other products and services to enable digital ownership (protection and control) of their customers’ data. \n\nhttps://4privacy.com/our-technology/\n\nWell good luck with platforms implementing this", "Wow. Really disingenuous to say he isn't making money from it when he is literally an investor and very likely owns part of the company.", "[From the website:](https://4privacy.com/our-technology/)\n\n>4PE consists of a small SDK and API that can easily be included in other products and services to enable digital ownership (protection and control) of their customers’ data. \n\nSo any decent programmer can super easily (because it's open source) make an alternative version of the SDK and API that just stores everything that is displayed and make versions of client apps that use that version. (Like NewPipe and YouTubeVanced are alternative versions of YouTube) \n\nOr just photograph your screen and [edit out the watermark](https://4privacy.com/our-technology/) if you don't want to install the alternative app.", "A kickstarter ad... This guy was always suspect...", ">\tAlso to revoke the access to 'my' data the other side would have to acknowledged it wouldn't it?\n\nThis is the biggest problem I have, claiming that your app can prevent unauthorized access by revoking files that have already been sent - it’s an impossible claim. \n\nSure, you can mitigate unauthorized access, but once you’ve sent data, you’ve sent it - period. You can’t claw the data back or un-write 1s and 0s from storage. \n\nIf the data has been unencrypted once, you no longer control that data. Your fancy app can ask nicely to have the receiving device delete the data, but no app can force that to happen.", "Is it practically impossible, but that underscores the real problem - when it does work as described, it coerces the receiver of the document, denying them control of their own property. The client application can only make that \"no copy\" guarantee on devices that prevent the owner from altering its behavior.\n\nUnder the guise of empowerment he's perpetuating DRM and the consolization of computers.", "Their answer to this problem is just an individualized watermark...\n\n>Data Protected In-Use – Decrypted content is kept only in memory and only as long as needed. When decrypted content is displayed, a visible watermark with the viewer’s identity appears to deter unwanted sharing. While we understand the analog-hole challenge makes the existence of any complete solution difficult, we are continuing to innovate on technology to reach the goal of giving digital ownership and control to all people.\n\nhttps://4privacy.com/our-technology/", "Nice, a water mark with my identity! If someone is determined to keep something, they could care less about you and your PII.", "Yes the man's greedy. I'm not happy about it, but mainly that's not what I'm disappointed by. I expect a certain (not too high) level of journalistic integrity from Destin. In the past his videos have provided unbiased and nuanced views on scientific topics. He often included expert opinions and strove for educational value.\n\nNow, he chooses to actively misinform, by painting a falsely oversimplified picture of a complex issue and failing to let people know about the commonly accepted (free) solutions. These characteristics are commonly found in advertisements. I'm no lawyer, but I think it's illegal not to disclose that a piece of media is an advert. It is also illegal not to disclose that he has financial stake in the company. And to top it all off he has the audacity to ask for our \"trust he's earned throughout the years\".\n\nThat's why I'm really disappointed. The selfish use of good reputation to misinform thousands.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy6STq337qo", "Opioid epidemic is the result of intense marketing campaigns and intentionally omitting the harmful addictive qualities. \n\n\nThe depression is correlated to high social media activity. \n\n\nSuicide grows along with population growth.", "[If you are interested in privacy on the internet, you might be interested in Solid. It's a project by Tim Berners-Lee (one of the \"founders\" of the internet).](https://solidproject.org/)", "Because tech companies have information about where you are all day and everything you're doing. All locations you have been. [Advertisers can just buy data on people that were at place X at time T and rewind their locations back to their home adress.](https://twitter.com/TectonixGEO/status/1242628347034767361) Imagine someone doing this with a pro-choice protest and showing up to people's homes to intimidate them. (Now you're going to say that this could be done before by simply following people, but following this amount of people would be such a massive amount that it isn't practical to do at all.) This amount of data is simply not okay.", ">\tOn top of all this he has the audacity to ask for our \"trust he's earned throughout the years\". That's why I'm really disappointed.\n\nThis is really it. It’s akin to the idea that anyone who has to tell you they are an “honest person” likely is not an honest person. \n\nFor him to say something like that unprompted is… weird. \n\nThe fact that he’s speaking about his audience’s trust as if it’s a commodity that can be exchanged for monetary value is kinda gross, and at least to me reveals more about his goals and viewpoint than maybe he intended.\n\nAll of it contributes to the impression I get that his channel and content feel inauthentic - and his own remark seems to suggest he feels he is owed financial support from his audience because he “earned” it. It all just feels wrong.", "Yeah, I am in the same boat. I think that they are trying to make you only interact with the files using their app, or via their API. But even then I don't see how you can control what people do with the data they show you.", "But do the messenger apps also have a key? I think that is the difference.", "He makes a number of other shady comments as well. I hate how he starts it off by complimenting the audience and calling them smart. That's pure pandering and a mark of a con artist. He's better than this, way better. \n\nI think somebody else wrote this script. That doesn't get him off the hook though, he should have refused to speak many of the lines in this video.", "why are you sure ?", "only thins is signal has Moxie, Dustin has nothing, except ability to scam people, at least he did not mention Crypto currency.", "I think you're asking if the private key (the only key that can decrypt messages sent to you) is stored on the client only? And the answer is yes. But only for the open-source apps you can check that only you can open the message.", "...so it's a VPN? And yes I should have one to mask my web traffic at home and on the go", "Personally all the military focused videos turned me off from him. One or two video showing cool submarines is okay, but at some point he straight up transitioned to pro-military propaganda.", "yeah I am not bothered by sponsorships (e.g. Veritasium and Kurzgesagt are very open about their sponsorships). People have to make a living. This kick-starter just seems like abuse of years of built-up trust.", "I'm happy that a popular science educator on YouTube is highlighting privacy issues. I'm not so excited that it ended as nothing more than a product pitch. I also think he missed the mark -- the real risk isn't the government getting this data, it is what the private companies are doing with this information. Imagine universities using this meta data to determine whether you get accepted or not, or a bank to determine whether you get to open an account, or a real estate company on whether you can live in one of their buildings.\n\n\"You spend 6 hours a day on Reddit, we're not doing business with you\" is the real risk here.", "But do services like Facebook Messenger have a hidden private key that can decrypt your encrypted content? (So Facebook could decrypt it for themselves or the government etc.)", "> intense marketing campaigns\n\nAnd what kind of data do marketing agencies use to \"dial up the intensity\"?\n\n> high social media activity\n\nAnd why are people using social media so much? Is it because those companies know everything about you, and can deliver a custom tailored experience that has the highest chance of keeping you \"on platform\" for the longest period of time?\n\n> Suicide grows along with population growth\n\nSure. It also grows along with income, and time, and a meatier diet.\n\nAnd also the usage of social media.\n\nCited by teenagers as their number one cause of depression.", "They say they have none, but you can't be sure without the source code.", "I don't you think you understand what a Blockchain is.", "This felt like an MLM pitch. I get that privacy is important and that it's pretty much non-existent in the digital age, but I feel like he should've been more upfront that this was basically a 15 pitch for his Kisckstarter.", "You do know it's possible to both be impressed and proud of what our military is capable of and at the same time not put full trust and faith in our government / large companies?\n\nI'm probably on the wrong website because this is the \"Everyone is only capable of one thing\" site.", ">Because tech companies have information about where you are all day and everything you're doing.\n\nYes, but that's not because they got that data from Google or Apple. They got that data from a third-party app, which the end-user then had to EXPLICITLY permit to access to the phone's location. So how would it be if you let end-users decide what level of privacy they want to apply to their own devices?\n\nI DEFY YOU to produce a way that you can simply purchase location data on a stranger directly from Apple or Google, or any other device manufacturer.\n\nIf you don't want third parties to have access to your tracking data, then don't install apps which insist on accessing it. No government regulation is required, nor would any government regulation prevent an end-user who insists on installing apps which collect location data from sharing it.", "Yes, unfortunately either Destin is over his head, or he has played the long game on us and only now is revealing his true colors... \n\nMost of these types of theoretical solutions rely on pseudonymization/tokenization of data. So I fill out 'sensitive' fields on facebook with tokens representing that data (for example my date of birth might be represented as [https://4privacy.com/33b36ab7-dea6-4cfc-aaf0-124583e379ba](https://4privacy.com/33b36ab7-dea6-4cfc-aaf0-124583e379ba) )\n\n\"only\" 4privacy.com knows my real date of birth, and every time someone looking at my facebook profile looks for my birthday, facebook asks 4privacy \"What is the Date of Birth represented by [https://4privacy.com/33b36ab7-dea6-4cfc-aaf0-124583e379ba](https://4privacy.com/33b36ab7-dea6-4cfc-aaf0-124583e379ba) ? \", and [4privacy.com](https://4privacy.com) serve up the data, maybe as a watermarked fuzzy image that is hard to copy and paste (a bit like a CAPTCHA image). \n\nSo facebook doesnt know my date of birth, only viewers of my profile can see it. \nYou also have a specific 'key pair' for facebook, so if facebook suddenly gets taken over by an even MORE evil company (hard to imagine, I know) - you can revoke the key, and suddenly Facebook cannot even display your Date of Birth any more. \n\nThere are huge problems with this, like...\n\n* It requires all social media companies, (you know, those evil guys who are making money selling your personal information) to voluntarily agree to give up a huge part of their revenue stream (knowing as much as possible about you so that they can sell highly targeted advertising) and take on additional the cost of implementing various non-standard third party technologies to help you with this.\n* If your data can be displayed on your friends computer screen, it can be 'scraped' by a software robot. You are trusting every site you trust with your data to solemnly stand on 'their' side of the fence, and never take a peek at what their customers can see.\n* Every search engine works by looking at (crawling) websites - and only the well behaved ones admit \"I am a search engine, not a human\" - if the data is visible to your friends, it is visible to search indexers/spiders/crawlers. \n* It makes life harder - so would probably only realistically be worthwhile using for sensitive/confidential personal data. I cannot ever envisage a world where you would substitute every tweet, every artistic picture of yourself posing duck-faced in front of a pair of conveniently placed graffitied angle wings - every Reddit post... with a token stored at '[4privacy.com](https://4privacy.com)' - even if that was somehow seamlessly taken care of by your privacy supplier (you think you are sending a tweet to twitter, but you are sending it to [4privacy.com](https://4privacy.com), who tokenize it, and send it on), the overheads are HUGE.\n* if [4privacy.com](https://4privacy.com) tokenized ALL your data (including pictures, videos etc) for ALL of your social media accounts, their data processing and storage needs would be MASSIVE - who pays for that?\n\n4privacy commit to publish their 'white paper' in 'early 2022' and to be ready in February 2022... [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/4privacyapp/4privacy-app/faqs](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/4privacyapp/4privacy-app/faqs)\n\nSo they will tell you \"what\" it is when it is \"ready\" for market...", ">They got that data from a third-party app, which the end-user then had to EXPLICITLY permit to access to the phone's location.\n\nIt's on by default on Google. And even if you turn GPS off, they use nearby WIFI networks to track your location.", "The conclusion end of this video should be \"you should be using encryption, here's the pre existing tools to do that. The end.", "Yes, blended in my head. Ty", "READ WHAT I WROTE.\n\nYou cannot buy location data on a person from Google, or Apple, or Samsung, or any other device manufacturer.", "Excellent summary, and a truly great point re: data overhead for tokenization. \n\nThe more I think about this the more head scratching it becomes, and I find it really hard to buy the idea that they spent months and months planning this and didn’t think to ask any of the basic questions or concerns we’re discussing now. \n\nIt’s hard to see this as anything but intentional and misleading.", "> I'm terribly disappointed in Destin's conduct here.\n\nWell, he did say he's pushing away all of any trustability he's earned for this.", "You're misunderstanding. It's the viewer's ID not the owner of the data. Many documents I get that aren't meant to be shared are sent to me with MY name on them. The reason is simple: if I upload the file they'll see it online with my name on it. Then they know who is responsible for leaking it.", "/u/MrPennywhistle (Destin) these are all really great questions that we could use the answer for :-) \n\nThanks!", "Besides the ease of editing out watermarks - who cares? The only way watermarks with an individual ID dissuades leaking is if the consequences to the leak matter to the individual. For example, leak the new Apple design = lose your job. A random person you are sharing with leaking = annoyed acquaintance? Or just a friend saying \"my computer was hacked, I didn't leak it\" which could easily be true. \n\nAny company grabbing data and leaking it at-scale would copy the info over and remove the water mark or edit out the water mark - either way, the watermark is irrelevant.", "Gov't bad pay me.", "> can you revoke access like his app will\n\nrevoking access only works if the receiver hasn't accessed the data. And that doesn't require anything fancy, you can do that with Google drive shared links. Once someone has accessed the data, they have the data, revoking access is irrelevant.", "First, it is non-trivial to remove the watermark. It requires additional processing that does cost money. Second, it's just an additional form of deterrence. There are other methods that can be used and combined with the above, like changing a few words here and there to individually identify the copy sent to me.\n\n \nNothing is going to be perfect, but adding security is better even if it isn't a cure-all. I'm assuming you still lock your house at night even though it doesn't stop all crime.", "Well, no, they'd be able to view the material but not download it.\nBut yes they can write stuff down, use a second phone to take pics/vids etc. That's the point, that the receiver can't download/share it on whatever site/service wether on purpose or not.", "> view the material but not download it\n\nThe only thing separating those two statements is a bit of scraping. They are practically the same thing.", "> cost money\n\nGood thing there's no value in personal information :-) \n\n> additional form of deterrence\n\nIt is the only deterrence. What are the others? Having to scrape the data?", "Yes. You do understand how investing money works? Companies aren't just investing in everything that can turn a profit. They're looking for the most profitable ways to spend their money. If you add additional cost it's possible there are more attractive avenues to invest their money in.\n\nThings are much more nuanced than you think.", "This is an ad", "The personal data market is gigantic, that's the whole rationale for this product. If it costs an extra 2 cents a user to get data from this system verses another system, that isn't a barrier. \n\nYes, I agree, there is nuance in snake oil. Sometimes it does really help a bit, sometimes it kills you, but either way it gives real medicine and science a bad name. Will it take a bit more time and effort to get the data from this system if it ever gets implemented by anyone? Yes, but that time and effort is insignificant. The technical challenges presented by watermarks or data scraping are low. One of the main reason captchas aren't text-based anymore.", "The entire point of all this is to not have all the metadata etc in the hands of google and whoever else. You being able to view it, screenshot it or write it down on paper doesn't carry with it stuff like that.\n\nBut yes I don't really get it, the proposed app doesn't seem revolutinary or something like a lot of people are acting like. And there already exists stuff that does more or less what he talked about.", "I think you're assuming I support this product. I don't. I was just correcting someone about how the watermarks were used. Regardless, people aren't going to scrape PDFs, remove watermarks, and convert them. There are much easier methods.", "I'm not actually. I should have said I assume. Which I do because I think Destin's generally a good/smart guy. Who knows though.", "> I think you're assuming I support this product. I don't.\n\nDoesn't matter to me :-) \n\n> I was just correcting someone about how the watermarks were used\n\nAnd I was just expressing for others how easily watermarks are defeated. \n\n> people aren't going to scrape PDFs, remove watermarks, and convert them.\n\nWhat you just described is easily automated and very simple computationally. It isn't a high bar if Facebook wanted to unwatermark all data like that - but as I mentioned, it doesn't even need to be unwatermarked, who cares where it is from, there are zero repercussions.", "> the entire point of all this\n\nI guess it is to make money, or the devs would have just volunteered in their spare time for Signal. \n\nI hope some decent channel with cred remaining makes a video going through all the current existing solutions that can be used instead of waiting for this kickstarter. like pcloud, sync.com, or protonmail. Help folks that are getting bamboozled by this all.", "One more thing, this is substantial indication that there's intention is to sell you product and make money, nothing else, because it is subscription based platform and it will not be open source product, if they intended to fight, they would make it contribution based and full open source product from day one, you know like tor, and sci-hub, pgp, hell I would understand if product was something like yubikey.", "The answer is no...", "I am not clear what this offers that other trust-no-one encryption services offer. They aren't suggesting anything new here as far as I can tell (even if the best known big services don't qualify)", "It seems to be vaporware at the moment. There is no clarity on what the product is.\n\n[Their website](https://4privacy.com/our-technology/) uses a whole lot of words to say a whole lot of nothing. It talks about a lot of components but with no explanation of how they are put together or how they interact with anything on the internet. And their [github](https://github.com/4PrivacyEngine/4PrivacyEngine-Core) is empty outside of a readme with a bunch of spelling errors.", "Dude is a fucking sad grifter whose only talent is filming things in slow mo and saying “woaaaah! Science!”\n\nI’ll never forget the time he spent an entire fucking hour shilling for some scam of ivanka trump", "Don’t forget he also shilled for ivanka trump", "It is.", "What about the time he spent an entire video shilling for ivanka trump?", "Haha it's literally just DRM.\n\nIt's hilarious how people will rail against DRM while simultaneously being like \"oh yeah I should be able to control my data and prevent unauthorized users from accessing that data, and be able to revoke control of it whenever I want\", when that's just them putting themselves in exactly the same position that companies who own copyrighted media and software are in when trying to ensure that only people who bought a digital product can use it.\n\nIf this were a feasible project, big corporations who have thrown a lot more money at DRM than Destin's kickstarter can hope to raise would have made much more successful progress than they have.", "I think he's selling this idea in the wrong way. The app appears more to be of a file server than an app to containerize your content so Facebook/Google/etc can't see it.\n\nIf he sold it being as a file server to keep your documents truly encrypted then he's right. What I'm reading on his website it does do that.", "I hate to be the acctualllyyy guy but you absolutely can.\n\nIf you design the app to work by connecting to the cloud to show you documents, then nothing is ever stored on your phone. When you sign-in you see a document(it's only stored in memory) and if you were to say.. lose connection it could automatically exit out and your phone no longer has access to that document.\n\nNow what if someone were to take a screenshot(or external photograph).. well true. They could do that but at that point you've ruined your privacy, not them.", "Haha wtf is up with these comments. One video criticizing big tech and the comments all shit on him... At least be a little less obvious next time... jesus.", "From what I'm reading on their website it's more a fileserver instead of doing stuff with 3rd party websites. As a fileserver it's completely acceptable and I'd probably use it tbh. A cloud storage provider that doesn't spy on me? Nice. I'll take it.", "You guys are all just salty he's doing something with his life and starting a company. Good for him. The haters can fuck right off :D", "This is the website that if you mention liking donuts or bacon you get called a bootlicker.", "You can do it if it's cloud hosted. Sure an image you can take a screenshot(or external photograph), but with an entire file you can send it to a device and have it be read-only and only stored in memory. If it loses connection to the server the app automatically closes it out and that person has lost it. It's how cloud servers work.\n\nThis assuming he wants to create a fileserver, which seems to be what he's building. It works fine. There's not anything wrong with it and nothing he said is out of line(aside from him not making money on it).", "Hey now, I wouldn't go that far.\n\nHe makes way better educational content than most other creators.\n\nHowever, his videos are also very human. He literally makes videos about whatever he wants. If he gets the chance to make a video with an interesting charity, whether connected with the Trumps or the Clintons, he's gonna do it.\n\nHe has never expressed any political preference whatsoever in his videos. And overall.. I just don't understand the dogpile onto him in this comment section.\n\nHe's literally one of the most wholesome and enjoyable YouTubers out there.\n\nIf he wants to try and co-found a business, or invest in a business, he can do that. It might suck, it might fail, it might be a cash grab, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't have any malicious intent. His videos are still awesome.", "I have already ended all Facebook products but after watching his video I am thinking of switching to a flip phone.", "Same guy who shilled for 23andme has the nerve to make a video on big tech privacy.", "I don't think interviewing military people and educating about how the mechanics of military operations work, is \"simping\" for the military.\n\nIt's always a dive into the technology and physics of the situation. Not some moral argument that war is good.", "I don't think it had anything to do with who she was. He was invited as press and he went.", "He's just a great dude.\n\nAnd people probably see this as akin to.. buying merch. Which it is.\n\nEven if you don't want the hat, you'll buy it to help support someone you truly believe in.", "To be fair though, if I were a YouTuber who wanted to diversify, I'd be trying to figure out a way to invest in some startups too.", "The only one he's mentioned any political preference is the video he made where he got to meet Obama. However, it was extremely wholesome and totally worth the watch. Destin is an all around great guy, and he's definitely not trying to grift people out of money.", "And if it turns out that the idea is stupid and fails.. I'm sure he'll address it publicly.\n\nHe might even address all this backlash, if it extends beyond reddit.\n\nIt can be a bad product without him being a bad person.", "Absolutely.", "He makes some nice videos like the backwards bike thing, but he's also extremely pro-military and some of his videos are very heavily biased for the US military agenda.\n\nI'd trust a pro-military app to keep my data \"private\" as much as I trust the hooker down the street saying it's their first time. Even if this app has nothing to do with the US military, if the government comes to Destin for some favors do you really think he won't be completely on board with supporting them? This app is going to be a direct feed to the NSA.", "Sure, you could mitigate this by only storing the document in memory, but then bad actors would just dump ram at readtime to extract the unencrypted data, or use a rooted/compromised device to copy the data to persistent storage. \n\nThis is kind of the whole point, you can mitigate certain scenarios, but you can never ensure custody of that data once it’s been sent to another device.", "Apps involved in privacy should be criticized to the upmost scrutiny, because otherwise it's just snake oil. Plus he's the one that decided to use his trusted youtube persona for what is at best an Ad.", ">\tOne video criticizing big tech and the comments all shit on him...\n\nPeople aren’t upset that he made a video criticizing big tech. \n\nPeople are upset he made a video criticizing big tech and then used that as leverage to promote a kickstarter campaign without disclosing his vested financial interest.", "Sure, but this is much more secure than the alternatives. So it's still a big win.", "I'd like to know based on his pro-military background, if government agencies came to him on the down low for some favors in tapping this app how can I trust him to turn them down?\n\nI'd also like to know if privacy was the end goal and not profits, why is this project not open sourced?", ">\tSure, but this is much more secure than the alternatives. So it's still a big win.\n\nI’m confused where you’re getting this definitive info from? \n\nIt’s only a proof of concept right now, their own roadmap doesn’t even have the white paper being published until early 2022.. so how are you able to claim it’s more secure than the alternatives? It doesn’t exist yet.", "As soon as the file leaves the server with keys to decrypt it, it's accessible outside of the app and can be saved and reshared. The file and the keys exist in memory, and unless they've gone to extreme lengths, other processes can see that memory and hijack it with relative ease. At the end of the day, if the user viewing the protected document owns the system, they can see and access anything on that system. It's the exact same principle as having an unpickable safe- it doesn't matter how secure the lock is if a thief can take the entire safe, at that point it's a matter of time and tools before its defeated. Similarly, no data is secure from being copied out of a \"protected file\". If it can be read once, it can be copied.\n\n\nThe only circumstance where this is useful is one where the user is not the system administrator and can't arbitrarily access program memory. Otherwise, it's dangerous to suggest to someone that they can safely share private documents with others with the ability to revoke access at anytime. While technically access to a file in the app may be revoked, there's no way to guarantee that file wasn't previously copied.", "Yeah, you got me. Slinking away now, head hung in shame. 😄", "What if the decrypted data has a message at the top that says \"plz no copy thx\"?", "Banana", "I think you found the secret! Ship it and give this guy a raise!", "Secure is not the same as private. The entire point of a blockchain is that there is a publicly verifiable ledger of transactions.", "That's already doable with any of the myriad group messaging protocols (like these protocols just send arbitrary messages between a set of users, doesn't matter what the message is). However I don't really see the use of doing it. Doing PKE that many times with all your friends (and I don't see a faster way to do this since you can't establish a shared secret key for your friend group, theirs and yours isn't a perfect intersection) would be ungodly slow.", "It's highly unlikely they do, but yeah the only way to really check is make sure all key-gen is happening on device and not being sent out to servers. If everything is verifiablely happening on device and the protocol it's following has a security proof, it's probably fine.", "> There is not, nor will there ever be, a way to secure control to any data after you have transmitted it to someone who has the keys to view it.\n\nYou can theoretically time lock the time to decrypt and that's pretty much it.", "For the record, I'd sell out u/RollingTater's privacy for 500k.", "Shit I'd sell for a new gpu.", "This guy has always creeped me out. His persona gives me a really duplicitous vibe.", "No, I don’t trust them. I trust that security researchers and lawyers are holding them accountable to the law and to their terms of service, and that a free press will report about it when they have extreme behavior.", "idgaf about my privacy. Why is everyone so upset about this? It's all literally only used for ads. No one is going to look through some random persons browsing history of whatever from the other part of the world. Ya'll need to chill.\n\nUnless of course you're a criminal or someone which dabbles in dubious activities, then yeah it might be a concern, but come on. How thick are you?", "Yep, absolutely ridiculous that he's doing things this way. He could literally have just told everyone \"go install Signal and use that for sharing sensitive stuff.\" But noooooo, he has to find a way to make money off it. Ridiculous, ridiculous, ridiculous.\n\nI know he is capable of good research, which really makes me doubt his sincerity here. A cursory google search tells you everything you need to know about what privacy tools are available on the market already. The \"technology page\" also displays a pretty severe misunderstanding of what \"forward secrecy\" means: [https://4privacy.com/our-technology/](https://4privacy.com/our-technology/) so I'm really not sure if anyone involved knows what they're doing at all.\n\nIt's difficult for me to conclude that he's acting in good faith. Very disappointing. He needs to have a long, hard talk with this pair of grifters he's somehow stumbled across and figure out how to get everyone's money back to them.", "It's pretty clear that he didn't do enough research to even realize that's a possibility. I feel bad for the people giving him money...", "It's honestly hard to tell whether he actually believes in what he's shilling. I know he's smart enough to see what's going on, so is this just a research fuckup, or does he know he's scamming?", "I love how we literally found out snapchat was saving all messages to device storage like a decade ago and nobody learned a goddamn thing.\n\nMESSAGES. DON'T. DISAPPEAR. It's that fucking simple.", "Nope, not just you. I've been an online privacy activist longer than I can remember, and this guy is totally full of shit. I really liked his other videos, even the US mil propaganda crap, but this is a step beyond. He's actively hurting peoples' privacy by recommending snakeoil instead of tried and true tools like Signal.", "Ooooooooooh it all makes sense now. The pair of grifters with the app figured out he was a good mark and now we all get to see how gullible he is. What a fucking shame. He had potential...", "He's definitely in over his head, but I doubt he has the guts to back down at this point.", "He's a super-Christian, pro-military, anti-evolution, conservative that does nice science videos. What did you expect?", "That would make sense, if that was how this worked. But it doesn't cause it's not.", "You can literally do all of this with Signal. Which he even mentions in the video. Either he's stupid or he's scamming.", "And the best part is that this pair of clowns chose not to use Moxie's double ratchet even though every single industry-standard secure message app does. They've cooked up some kooky \"key displacement\" scheme instead even though that's, like, not a thing that exists in cryptography. How in the hell did Destin fall for this? He's not that stupid...right?", "One RTX Keylogger 3090 Ti coming right up!", "His inital point about privacy etc is correct, but the solution is law and policy changes, not yet another app.\n\nPretty disappointing", ">\tSo as it stands right now, if you attach a document to an e-mail/facebook message/text (even on an encrypted app like Signal), you've instantly lost control of that document because you have given the recipient absolute control of their copy of that document. If they choose to upload that document somewhere without your permission, they can.\n\nEncrypt the file before you send it? There are many many options to control this as well. Most people just don’t bother because the truth is most people don’t care if Facebook sees their college transcripts or Walmart invoices. \n\n>\tWhat they are hoping to achieve is allowing the recipient to view a document, but not allowing them to copy it. Basically the document remains encrypted and only viewable in this new app\n\nMovies are still pirated by guys pointing cameras at film screens. \n\n——\n\nI’m sure he has good intentions. But this is the age old problem of trying to sell a solution to people who simply don’t care. Any extra step that isn’t legally mandated between them sending an email is an inconvenience most people won’t take. \n\nNot to mention he’s dumbing a lot of this down to the point where it’s almost concerning. I get he wants it to be a solution for the layman -the everyone-, but ahh… you really risk misrepresenting the whole issue and making it seem like you can be safe with this one easy step. \n\nIt’s the same issue people have with VPN ads. Vpns promise you security and privacy and anonymity, but without other best practices all you’re doing is trusting your VPN instead of your ISP. Sure it stops coffee shop sniffing attacks, but it doesn’t stop google from knowing who you are.", "That’s what I don’t like. \n\nIt peddled the false promise of security and privacy.\n\nYou can never secure something against copy once it’s on the internet. \n\nAnd at the end of the day, even if you 100% could prevent digital extraction and copying… analog copying will never be stopped. It is impossible. \n\nAsk the RIAA about that one.", "Screenshots are easy to protect against in software. \n\nI mean try taking a screenshot of Netflix. \n\nCameras on the other hand… it’s basically physically impossible to protect against.", "People steal art and remove watermarks all the time. \n\n10+ years ago this was an issue on incredibly complicated art pieces with massive intrusive watermarks. Just look at deviant arts ugly watermark. It never stopped anyone. \n\nA 10 year old with basic knowledge of how to use a clone stamp can get rid of 99% of all watermarks.", "Bro, I get serious crypto scam vibes from this.\n\nLike this is the kind of video you get before 2 months down the line after the launch and dump you get an apology video where the creator says they’re sorry and they truly believed and they had noooOooOo idea this was a p&d scam. \n\nLike I know it’s not that. \n\nBut ugh I get identical vibes.\n\nTbf I do believe he genuinely cares. I don’t think he’s doing anything bad. But I also think he’s a little in over his head.", "That said a lot of internet stuff is presumed to be private. You wouldn’t call your Google drive or other cloud folder a public space, would you? \n\nBut legally the internet is defined in such a way that it would be. Hence why the government can spy on it in such manners.", "Wait, wasn't one of his points that a good privacy system needed to be open source so it could be independently verified? And his is not open source? Wtf.", "Anti evolution? I could swear I remember him taking about evolution before.", "All the sudden you guys care about privacy? LMAO", "Link to his talks? All I remember was him dodging the direct questions.", "WTF? By the USN and then he got like 4(?) videos on YT on top of that to earn revenue from?", "It's open-source. Even if they do a hidden watermark, you can find out exactly how they do it from the source code and remove the watermark.", "What are you talking about? He made a whole video shilling some dumb scam of hers", "It's gonna be open source. It's just not released yet.", "He's literally a millionaire? You probably need the support more than him.", "Google “ivanka trump smarter every day”…I can’t copy the link I’m on mobile", "What did Veritasium do?", "He’s an Alabaman who worked as a civilian contractor for the Army at Redstone for most of his career as a missile flight test engineer, I should think it would be pretty obvious what the political leanings of that type of person are lol.\n\nHis engineering and physics videos are fantastic because of this expertise, but I wouldn’t trust him as far as I can throw him as a political or social visionary.", "Reddit being Reddit. Pro military and Christian? There is no way that can be a good person according to the Reddit think tank! It's too easy when you have these labels and you get piled on and ripped to shreds.", "God forbid he gets paid for the work he does L O L.\n\n“Why would you put ads on this video that you edited literal days worth of video footage for and researched and prepared for months? What a loser.”\n\nHow fucking dumb of an opinion is that? “I can’t believe you didn’t give us this content for free.”", "I have thought about that. In the past computer stuff hasn't really been his strong suit. So I think there is a very solid chance he just doesn't understand this one fully.", "My problem with these pop-sci edutainment channels and their sponsorships is that their sponsored videos are so indistinguishable from their regular content that a simple disclaimer just isn't enough. Even if Veritasium starts a video about autonomous cars by explicitly saying it's sponsored, I doubt most of his audience are still going to keep that in mind when they're 10 minutes into what feels like just another \"look at this cool technology\" video. And when Kurzgesagt makes a video about how important for humanity space travel is, people aren't retroactively unaffected by the entire thing when they hear \"by the way thanks to Airbus for the sponsorship\" at the end. \n \nI get that interested sponsors are most likely to come from areas that align with your usual content, but these channels who brand themselves as educational straight up plug advertisements into their usual formula with a blink-and-you'll-miss-it mention that nothing they are saying in this particular video can be trusted. At least if some cooking channel host sets their knife down and pans up from their waistline for a minute to give the typical spiel about how some food delivery service is oh-so-yummy and convenient, it's pretty apparent that it's sponsored even if you miss the disclaimer.", "$500k/New GPU\n\nThese are the same thing.", "His \"changing the engine of the internet\" idea is also flawed. He is proposing to remove the revenue stream of these big tech companies with no replacement. The data mining they do is also how they provide useful services to me. \n\nI generally hate things like the Youtube algorithm and how it kind of puts me in a tunnel, narrowing what is displayed to me, but it also turns me on to some really interesting stuff. Digital assistants can be genuinely helpful tracking shipments, upcoming events, etc.", "Supposedly from other comments it's not released yet. I mean I'll believe it when I see it, plenty have promised open source but are \"open\" for random things like the UI but are closed source for areas where it actually needs to be scrutinized under the guise of some random reason. That way they can plaster OPEN SOURCE on their product but in actuality it is not.", "You made the claim he's anti-evolution, so you provide the evidence.", "Yes", "Anti-evolution? You have any links to support that?", "Is Code.org a scam?\n\nhttps://youtu.be/G6N5DZLDja8\n\nBecause it seems like a good charity that he happened to admire, no matter who was associated with it.", "The best thing to do, is to hold our own groups accountable when they need to be called out.\n\nThere's too much tribalism where if you're a born-again believer you clearlyyyy love Trump etc etc or if you love Bernie Sanders you must smoke pot every day and live on welfare.\n\nAdmit that there are absolutely.. stupid people on both sides. Even if one side has much more apparent issues.", "Yep, those navy sub videos made me stop watching him. He straight up accepted money from the navy to put out pro-military propaganda. \"Look guys! This nuclear sub is so cool! They get pizza and fried chicken and all this good food! They have video games! Cool missiles! It's so cool! Not at all dangerous, it's just a fun little vacation! Think of all the science you can do!\"\n\nIt was infuriating to watch.", "Yeah, because the multiple discussions of pizza, fried chicken, great food, and video games on a nuclear submarine were definitely just about the physics. No propaganda here. Not being paid by the navy to make living on a nuclear submarine look cool, definitely not, he was just there to talk about the physics only.", "It doesn't look like he needs to back down... $3,000,000 and counting. \n\nThe sheer speed and timing of this is amazing - 7300 backers and an average pledge of $400 per person, but only 119 comments - many of them critical, made by people who feel so strongly about this that I guess they pledged $1 just so they could make their voice heard in the comments. \n\nThat makes me wonder if some big insiders have seeded the campaign, to make it look like a winner from the get go...\n\nShaking my head... I have to admit that If had the power to make $3,000,000 in 24 hours on a a vague promise, just by sacrificing \"any trust that I have earned from you throughout the years\"...(video 0:07) I might be very tempted.\n\nThe world is crazy, man...", "Basically. I like both, but when i mention i think bacon maple bars are trash i also get downvoted.", ">You wouldn’t call your Google drive or other cloud folder a public space, would you?\n\nNo, but I wouldn't expect Google to be unable to access it. Expecting otherwise isn't just asinine, it's physically impossible.", "> The data mining they do is also how they provide useful services to me. \n\nIt's not even that, and this is the biggest BS of the video. \n\nEvery single one of them could still work and monetize without targeted advertising - and that can be attained if you enable all privacy options. \n\nBut without location history, the assistant couldn't physically fulfil its duties for example. And men seeing tampons ads wouldn't be nice It's not even about prying your data for their own sake, at a certain point it's *you* that is happy to oblige to have a better service. \n\nAnd this is where conveniently they don't really care if some very privacy conscious user opts out.", "How about stopping to bend your ass to carriers in the first place? \n\nContracts suck.", "/u/seanbrockest made the claim he's pro-evolution, he should provide the evidence.", "I did not", "> I remember him taking about evolution before.\n\nRight.", "You're reaching pretty hard there. I literally said \"I could swear I remember him talking about evolution\", and you morphed that into \"made the claim he was Pro evolution\".\n\nRegardless, I went back to the video I was trying to remember. Although he doesn't talk about it in the video, he links to three sources which discuss the evolution of the plant he was videotaping.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/MUaTOoVmg1Q\n\nHe does not appear to be anti-evolution. The person who claimed above that he was anti-evolution still has not provided any sources to back that claim up.", "You could have just provided the source of your comment instead of trying to be self righteous about your comment which obviously purported that he believed in evolution.", "I know he got paid for that partnership, but do you have a source on the specific amount?", "Yeah the video series he did showing how cool submarines, air force stuff, navy seals etc were interesting from the technical stand point. But his shilling the end with military recruitment and links just rubs me the wrong way.\n\nIts potentially showing kids the military in a really positive light, showing off the, rightfully so, cool engineering that goes on, and using that to try and recruit them.", "He's a smart guy and from listening to his NDQ podcast for a while he certainly seems genuine and not the kind of person to back crazy ideas.\n\nHowever, from the outside this does look like he just hasn't done any due diligence on this product, especially after backing the Lockdown app (from the same developers) last year that turned out to be a flop.\n\nI'm hoping this is a typical silicon valley \"fake it 'til you make it\" scenario where a company is promising the world in the hope that one day they can deliver, but it all comes across as a bit of a vapourware scam.", "I'm not entirely sure how this hurts me, as he says. How should this hurt me in my day to day life? And if I die in 10 years, how could it have impacted me in the next 10 years?\n\nThanks for anybody replying.", "It depends on the watermark. This type of watermark is invisible to the naked eye and only detectable if you run it through special software. \n\nIts used to track people copying the data.", "How will he circumvent the patriot act?\n\nDoesn't the patriot act force American companies to secretly implement backdoors (eg. to bypass end to end encryption) when requested? If so, how could I ever trust an American company in regards of privacy?", "I still don't understand people are not tripping on this for being a subscription based solution and that the price per period isn't declared anywhere.\n\nStill people throwing money at it as it is nothing, \n\nAlso YouTube keeps promoting this advertisement on my front-page, which pretty much proves the YouTube algorithm doesn't care much about if something is a scam or not." ]	262	videos	Is Your Privacy An Illusion? 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https://youtu.be/HPOng-uPqyE	/r/videos/comments/qctxag/90_years_old_grandma_insane_painting/	[ "wow that was amazing.", "That is clearly not her hand when details are being done. THere is also one where this guy tries to pretend its his young son making it. This is like that owl meme. Where they don't show her doing any of the detailed parts.", "Anyone else notice that was a tiger not a lion?", "nope...u watched it very carefully" ]	4	videos	90 years old grandma insane painting
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qcu37z/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qcu37z/deleted_by_user/	[ "I just woke up from a nap. That's about the extent of what I'm doing today.", "haha! atleast you burned some calories getting up!", "And here's me thinking 160 iso squats and 5x30 pressups in 1 hour is good going.", "That is good going! it took me a long time to build up to these levels. To be honest, it was more mentally difficult than physically. I was completely shot mentally after this.", "I have to say I was impressed.\n\nFor me its just about age and a hard life of drugs and alcohol ;-)", "Thank you, no matter what your life was like, the opportunity to improve will never stop being an option my friend :)", "true....", "The only thing worse than watching someone's workout is listening to someone talk about thier workout. Very impressive but it's OK to exercise and not share it.", "Respectfully disagree. I find watching what it takes to go through that process for someone to be outrageously inspiring and helpful to understand that while hard, this isn't impossible.", "I mean to each thier own. If it helps you then that's awesome. But to me if you can't work out without checking in or videotaping it it's douchey and self absorbed." ]	10	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/JvRuelKXugM	/r/videos/comments/qcu5o6/uncharted_official_trailer/	[ "\"Don't touch your ear like that. You look like an idiot\" - Looks like a dig to something hmm", "This did not feel anything remotely like Uncharted.", "Spoiler: he dies from a jump puzzle an hour into the film.", "“Sully doesn’t have any friends. I should know, i’m one of them.” …What?", "Looks generic", "Wait, the trilogy is coming to PC?!", "Fuck it, I’ll be the odd one out. I think this looks fine. Nothing groundbreaking but some fun, like the games. There are plenty of references to things in the game but seems to carve its own story. Tom actually is pretty good, although should have grown some stubble lol. I Hate mark Wahlberg in general but who knows.", "No one replied to this comment. I should know, I replied.", "cookie cutter movie for the berg. The movie will do ok but he'll still make tens of millions.", "No, not the whole trilogy. Uncharted 4 and Uncharted The Lost Legacy.", "I've never played the games, but it looks like dumb fun. I'm a sucker for any kind of adventure movie.", "dumb mixology crap, bad casting, disney style humor. \n\nmaybe i’ll watch it the next time i’m super sick but otherwise this is a hard pass.", "Ah, dang. Actually forgot about the two newest ones. I just want Uncharted 2, such a great game.", "Usual bland and generic Wahlberg movie it seems. He doesn't even act like Sully from the games.", "\"sigh, it's not uncharted, you lost the chart!\"", "This actually looks super entertaining. My expectations were pretty low so that probably helps, but the trailer makes it look like a fun movie.", "Supposed to be a funny line, but feels like it lacks a comedic pause", "my thoughts exactly", "The part where they ripped off an entire sequence from uncharted 3 felt like uncharted. In the worst way possible.", "I like Tom Holland.\n\nI dont like Tom Holland as Nathan Drake.", "Terrible casting. I'm a huge fan of Tom Holland and Mark Wahlberg and I'm sure they'll put on solid performances but it just doesn't make sense.", "Big fan of the games; this does not feel at all like Uncharted. They're retconning how Drake and Sully meet. Neither Drake or Sully are cast properly, and Sully has always had a broom mustache.", "The problem with video game adaptations: that scene they took from Uncharted 3 will never be as excellent or as immersive as it was in the game", "Ripped off? It's the Uncharted movie. Did they rip off the idea of a character named Nathan Drake?", "Uhhh it's an uncharted movie prequel. So Nathan Drake hangs out of a plane by cargo in this movie and then 10 years later does the exact same thing in uncharted 3? \n\nThe writers of this film were so devoid of ideas they just copied something that's already been done.", "Act like? He doesn't even look like Sully", "Mark Wahlberg seems like he’s shoehorned into whatever role he’s put into.\n\nHolland is fun, but not sure I agree with him in this role. Banderas’ parts will probably be some of the better ones. \n\nI think it’s the kind of movie where you can enjoy watching it, but a month later you won’t remember anything about it.", "I think you might have some bad info, or maybe I'm not understanding you. This movie is not a prequel to the games. It's a movie based off the characters and events of the games. Looks to be some sort of mashup of story elements from Uncharted 3 and 4.\n\nSo, it's going to have things in it that happened in the games. Including some of the big action set pieces. \n\nThis would be like getting upset that Harry Potter fights Voldemort in the movies because it already happened in the book. It's a film adaptation.", "I am whelmed", "Tom Holland is younger than Drake was in the first one and it's about how he meets Sully. How is this not a prequel?", "or 'What if John Wick was one of the Goonies helping Laura Croft'", "Looks like a new age Spy Kids. Barf lmao.", "The most exciting thing from the trailer is that I will finally be able to play Uncharted. Hope the port isn't terrible...", "I dunno seemed really uncharted to me with the story. Even though Tom is playing a very young Nathan Drake he seems like he's got the bones of the character down.", "Yeah because the first thing I think of when I think uncharted is Led Zeppelin. Fucking awful choice of music for this.", "It starts with the top. Sony is kinda fucking oblivious to anything remotely close to critical rational thinking.", "It's one of those lines where the writer thinks it sounds cool, but it's actually just shit and cliché", "It's like how Harry Potter films ripped off the books by J K Rowling", "Spiderman: Homeless", "He just explained how. Given we see how Drake and Sully meet in the games, and this has it being vastly different, it is not a prequel. It's essentially a reimagining of the concept.", "It's called an adaptation for a reason.", "Look how they mascaraed my boy...", "If you have good enough internet you can play them already on Playstation Now the pc cloud gaming app for Playstation. I played through God of War on my PC and it was fine I really didn't notice any lag at all. they have a lot of good titles for like 10 dollars a month. I honestly just played god of war and canceled it but I may presubscribe later so I can play a different game if I get the urge.", "Yeah, I'm just not getting the Nathan Drake vibes from Tom Holland right now. Maybe in 10 years but he just feels too young for the role right now. \n\nLike the last Indiana Jones where Shia LeBouf was Indie's kid, thats what Tom Holland feels like to me. Nathan Drake, Jr at best.", "also \"there are places that can't be found on any map\" as he's literally pulling out a map", "Nintendo has Mario, Sega has Sonic, Sony has Tom Holland.", "Excited for this.\n\nIts been a while since Ive been able to say \"I like the games, not the film\".", "The real Uncharted trailer IMO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5CZQpqF\\_74&ab", "\"There's places out there you can't find on any map\"\n\nProceeds to show a full minute of him looking at different maps.", "Tom Holland as Nathan Drake? My heart says no... buuuuuut... I mean it makes sense. All our favorite picks for actors to portray the character are outdated, too old (for a potential movie franchise... come on people, Nathan Fillion is Drake in my brain too but the guy is 50 years old), and lack the physical training. \n\nI think partly why I'm adverse to him playing the role is simply because I'm so used to him as spider-man. And even I can admit this is a dumb reason to assume he shouldn't be Nathan Drake.\n\nAt the end of the day, Tom Holland is a likeable actor who plays likable roles (even if they are kind of samey).\n\nSo parking my preconceptions, I have to admit, this movie looks like it might be pretty fun... however the disastrous history of video game movies (with exception of the most recent Tomb Raider movie, which is basically Uncharted with a female lead) has made me jaded. I really hope this movie continues to challenge my preconceptions.", "Looks pretty fun. Doubt it will be some masterpiece but should be enjoyable for what it is.", "You’re a fan of Mark Wahlberg? I guess someone has to be", "Boring game is now a boring movie.", "Mark’s Wahlberg could be described as miscast in every movie that he has been in and I would probably agree.", "Dude they closed their laptops and were like “we fucking nailed it. Lunch?”", "Except Spy Kids fucking rocked????", "Tom, I don't mind. Marky Mark on the other hand.......", "While I get that it’s an uncharted movie, I would prefer if they came up with new action sequences instead of just blatantly using ones from the games. Makes it just feel lazy.", "Looks pretty, pretty, pretty... bad", "I've never even played the games and I can tell the casting for this doesn't match well. \n\n\nI can only imagine how fans of the game feel.", "Did they really have to \"reboot\" the story? Guess figuring out how to develop an already existing story arch as a prequel would have been too hard. Hell, it wouldn't even need to be about Drakes treasure.", "Tom Holland is the bigger name, but I think Jensen Ackles would have fit the look better. And they didn't even try in casting Marky Mark as Sully. They didn't even give him a mustache!", "Everyone looks 15 years too young.", "Hey it's not their fault, every character needs to be aged down in the casting to better suit the target demographic. That's how it works right?", "Does anyone think this will be successful? I'd be shocked if it turns a profit, much less warrants sequels.", "Mark would be way more entertaining if he just played Dignam in all the movies where he plays himself.", "I mean I have the collection on PS4, but would have loved 4k etc. My internet is good but my wifi ain't reliable enough to play it in the living room after my PS4 dies. Beyond framerate and all the bells and whistles that's the main thing I love about PC. I can just reinstall games I bought 20 years ago without having to hunt down old hardware or using emulators (which don't always work perfectly). In order to preserve games, I really think all console exclusives should be ported to PC once the life cycle of their console is done.", "Why would I watch Tom Holland do fake parkour for 2 hours when I can just replay Uncharted 2-4?", "hes too short and not rugged enough to be playing drake", "Nathan Fillion would have been so much better for this.", "What was his brother’s name? I missed it.", "Blegh", "Sully is young and also Marky Mark", "I love Nathan Fillion, and he'd make a great older Nathan Drake - in fact, Nolan North voices Nathan Drake, and has subbed for Nathan Fillion in Destiny 2. But he's also 50 years old, and they're clearly going for a younger \"origin story\" Nathan Drake. They're probably hoping to turn it into a franchise, so they want to start with a young actor.", "You clearly haven't seen the Fillion Uncharted fan film:\n\nhttps://youtu.be/v5CZQpqF_74\n\nYou're welcome.", "Huh, I guess I'll play it, then. My biggest issue with playing on the PS4 was trying to aim with twin sticks. Hate it.", "Honestly that sounded like a franken-line to me. Especially since we don’t see her saying the words “I should know I’m one of them”", "nope, mixology. that annoying shit you see bartenders do where they treat making a gin and tonic like a circus act.", "I mean he is an actor of course he will act the character if he is good at his job, usually the problem in that department is shitty writing or direction and Nathan Drake is a pretty well established and competently written one in the first place, while not really being all that complicated or unique of a character in the first place. He is a generic \"charming roguish adventure guy\". \n\nI'm more concerned about whether or not Tom Holland was actually the best possible choice, or if the general direction that made him a good fit for the role age wise was a good one.\n\nIt's like if they finally made a Looney Tunes movie for the first time and it was Baby Looney Tunes.", "He was good as Diggler", "Yeah makes sense I am not a console person so having the ability to play the them on pc is good regardless. seems worth the price but I guess it depends on the person. I also nearly never reply games unless it's like an rpg with a lot of choice in it or different classes I can play with.", "I refuse to watch unless the body count is astronomical.", "Sure, but come on there is a pretty huge difference between 1) the level of physical acting performance one would expect from a full length Uncharted movie and 2) what is shown in this short story, is pretty high. Not defending the choice in casting here but I wouldn't cast an older actor who wasn't in really great shape and that didn't have experience with the required level of physicality.", "Fair enough, I don't really know that actor that well, but he looks the part. I'm just saying they needed someone who can handle the physicality of the role.", "oh jesus christ sure whatever.", "20 years ago, yeah. They clearly want this to be a franchise and you can't hire someone who'd be 60 by the 3rd one as the lead in your action trilogy.", "Looks AWFUL.", "Yep. I love how every action movie these days has to have every line of dialogue include low effort snark.", "The games have amazing action sequences that people love\n\n...let's not do that guys.", "She's should have said 'I'm not one of them'\n\nThat gets across that she knows him well and it actually makes some sense.", "Spoiler: Most of the action sequences in that trailer aren't done by Tom Holland.", "Imagine saying the wrong thing and then getting frustrated at someone else over your mistake", "imagine using an obvious colloquialism that’s widely understood and dealing with pointless, annoying pedantry.", "National Treasure 4, where he looks for a treasure and the bad guy is also looking for it.", "I'm not trying to be mean to you, but I don't think you quite understand what the word prequel means. This movie does not take place before the events of the games, it doesn't take place at any time at all in the timeline of the games. It's a reimagining of the story and characters you know from the games. Drake's age doesn't matter at all in regards to when certain events happened in the game vs the movie. Think of it like an alternate universe where some things are the same, and others are different.\n\nA prequel would imply that this movie takes place in the same timeline as the games, which it clearly does not.", "It was a stupid thing to get hung up on.", "Damn Tom Holland doesnt have any of that Nathan Drake charm", "There are a lot of extremely unrealistic reactions from civilians witnessing murder, torture etc. They are shocked for about 2 seconds then often make a joke.", "Have you… have you ever played the game??", "So I guess Led Zeppelin is letting loose of the right to use their music in movies now.", "Might as well call it anything but Uncharted. Also fuck Marky Mark. Such a terrible actor I’ll never understand his hype", "If you read the chain, /u/jaxx4 didn't get hung up on it, they asked for clarification.", "sure thing fam", "classic reddit interaction lol", "Guess this is one of those films where the physics is as realistic as in the game engine - I'll just casually jump from behind into this FLYING PLANE...", "Given that Hollywood makes rollercoaster movies, Uncharted looks to live up to that.", "Uh yeah. 2, 3 and 4 to be exact. It felt like an Indiana Jones type campy adventure game with a focus on setting design with a funny yet likeable protagonist and a typical bad guy who gets in the way.\n\nReally don't understand how this is any different. And it's also a younger Sully/Nathan so they have room to grow more into how we know them.", "Yeah, because they’ve already been done. Uncharted 4 doesn’t use action sequences from Uncharted 2. The movie shouldn’t either. It can feel like an Uncharted movie while still have new action set pieces.", "Mission Impossible: National Treasure", "Not the vibe I'm getting at all. Seems like a kid pretending to be Nathan drake, like a Halloween costume come to life.", "Nathan Fillion where?", "Oh shit... Thought this was a fan made trailer. _", "You do know the vast majority of people watching the film will never have played the game", "You do realize that the people they are trying to get hyped for the movie are people who played the games right? That’s why they put those scenes in, as a cheap nostalgia bait.", "Or just maybe they know they're good action scenes", "Yeah, they know it’s good cause the scenes have already been used. I’d prefer they be a bit more creative than a best of action scenes from the games. It’s just lazy.", "Jackie Chan says fuck your ageism.", "> “Sully doesn’t have any friends. I should know, i’m one of them.”\n\nMy exact reaction.\n“Sully doesn’t have many friends. I should know, I’m one of them” would have worked a lot better.\n\nMovie looks fun, though.", "This really looks like a movie by committee. No singular voice, just a recycled mess with the sole purpose to make money. Money is ok but this just seems like any of a thousand forgettable action adventure movies over the last 30 years.", "I dunno, it looks pretty bland. Quite true to the source material.", "wut is this lmao", "Aka sony movies. \n\nBut they still lose money.", "You just repeated the line from the movie. 🤷", "I like to think of you all as my not friends", "Pour", "Who the fuck is casting this nonsense?", "Tom Holland does the Spider-Man pose at 2:06", "Agreed...but with the state of the recent movie landscape being what it is, I do not mind a forgettable action adventure movie.", "This entire thread doesn't make any sense. I should know, I am one of them.", "Don’t see the point of a movie tbh. There are lots of movies like this. Uncharted worked because it was the game version of those type of movies.", "It could never be without Nathan Fillion", "Jesus Christ….Tom Holland has the voice of an 11 year old boy who has just started puberty. He makes a genuinely horrible Nathan Drake. Who was the complete idiot that made this casting decision? What the fuck is this dumpster fire?", "I was about to say the same thing. Like a kid doing cosplay of Drake..", "This is like when your parents pick out your clothes and think it’s cool, and it’s totally not.\n\nYeah, this is like that.", "That chain of boxes off the plane is peak uncharted. How to turn a dramatic action film moment into a platformer jumping puzzle.", "I still believe bruce campbell would've made WAAAY better Sully compared to Mark.", "Jackie Chan says he started rigorous physical training since he was 6 years old and has been pretty much been doing it non stop, has his own choreography team, only occasionally uses stunt doubles. \n \nNathan Fillion laughs and says yeah he's no Jackie, thanks though!" ]	139	videos	Uncharted - Official Trailer
https://youtu.be/UNg3Vnfu4Pk	/r/videos/comments/qcuqma/monopoly_who_owns_the_world/	[ "I don't care if it's a video that would tell me who shot JFK, if it's a god damn hour long, I ain't gonna watch lmao", "12:44 goes who the monopoly is, then proceeds to provide evidence for a monopoly. \n\nWas easy to skip around and find that answer.", "Consider just watching the first 15 mins today, the next 15 mins tomorrow, so it will only take a few days to see the entire documentary. I believe the author covers as much as he can while not wasting listeners’ valuable time. This blew my mind completely, and we ALL need to take our power back.", "Lots of people says we need to take our power back, it's just some people happen to conflate the situation to the extreme.\n\nIt's quite boring when you get down to it, there's no overarching, grand conspiracy. Most, and I mean nearly all, politicians are just in it for money and govern accordingly. \n\nThe solution is also quite boring; campaign finance reform. It's not worth an hour long video slowly walking people into some sort of dystopian reality and agitating their brains. A good education on how campaign finance works would be much better.", "Sounds like you have an opinion on the video, at least to me. Did you already watch it?", "I watched to the point where I realized it's nutty conspiracy video.\n\nI'll give them credit, it's presented in a way that it took me longer than usual to figure out. \n\nI skipped around after that point, I lol'ed at the part where they say Trump was just somebody who \"thinks differently.\" And that bit about how the pandemic is an attempt to keep us from communicating. That's some bat shit stuff and makes no sense.", "And the guy titles the footage of Joe Biden ‘illegitimate President of the United States’? I ‘researched’ that information and it’s untrue.\n\nYou lost me there. \n\nAnd how about hiring a narrator for the next video? You sound like you just got back from the dentist.", "People are so quick to write stuff off if it has one sentience that doesn’t align with their beliefs. In order to learn new things and and expand you’re knowledge you must first put you’re beliefs aside and look at things objectively without any pre determined beliefs. If people would start looking at the world and everything with open minds and allowing their beliefs to be challenged I think we could change the way things are going slowly but surely. It amazes me how ignorant most people are to everything. Please watch this video and do some of you’re own research on the information that is given. It can be a real eye opener and dot connector", "He’s Dutch you idiot. Not everyone speaks in an American accent.", "Neither Blackrock nor Vanguard own any one of the companies mentioned in this movie. They hold a bunch of shares but they do not have a controlling majority. The premise of the entire movie is WRONG.", "Yes. I know he’s Dutch you friggin’ dimwit.\n\nThere are people called ‘narrators’ Who can provide dialogue just like there are people called ‘editors’ who can provide continuity.\n\nUltimately, this guy is another carbon copy freak who spends an hour complaining about bullshit and offers no solutions other than ‘a better tomorrow’.\n\nYou seriously think this marble-mouth idiot is someone worth defending?\n\nIn his next video, he might want to mention that Trump has his own nonprofit foundation. I guess he forgot about that in this one ;)\n\nHe might also want to mention that Trump is forbidden by law from running it anymore because he stole money from handicapped children and veterans.\n\nBut what do I know? I’m an idiot who thinks narrators shouldn’t sound like a clogged aquarium pump on the video made in their ‘small apartment’ on ‘their old computers’.\n\nBut if this is the kind of ‘research’ you rely on during a global pandemic, let’s have Darwin sort everything out for us. M’kay?", "i do think the anonymous nature of the author combined with the website infrastructure and overtly political dogma is kind of off-putting \n\nbut i believe strongly that many of his assertions are based in reality.", "not really some far-out thing. money has always ruled society, money always will rule society\n\nbut the implications of this in an information-age context with globalization are very profound. especially with rapidly evolving methods for population control\n\ni agree on some level that it comes off as nutty and conspiratorial but the assertions he's making are obviously massive. so naturally they come off as such. that being said i think the political overtones, the deepfake, the dramatic music to manipulate the viewer's emotions, grand allusions to \"saving humanity\", and the creepy religious website w/ a donation page put me off.\n\nhonestly, i'm a conspiracy nut myself (only really in this area tho). so i look at all that and my first conclusion is \"this guy is controlled opposition\". i have studied the subject for years and i believe there is an abundance of evidence to prove his assertions. countless books, data, associations, etc. but the manner in which this anonymous Dutch guy presents the message is fucking terrible" ]	39	videos	Monopoly - Who owns the world?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsPsnwXDGNM	/r/videos/comments/qcvbe6/steve_white_a_young_philosopher_at_northwestern/	[ "The entire thing is 3 hours, but most is viewer questions. The actual talk is the first 45 minutes or so.\n\nI thought it was particularly heartbreaking that one of the things that Steve thought made death bad was that it meant less time with the ones you love, like his young daughter (who you can hear in the background).", "Well, at least he died doing what he loved... thinking about how much it sucks to die.", "On a similar note: [The \"Last Lecture\" by Randy Pausch](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7zzQpvoYcQ)", "How did he die?", "Complications from heart surgery." ]	6	videos	Steve White, a young philosopher at Northwestern, talks about "premature death," why it's scary, and why all death seems "premature" in some sense. He died less than a year later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GQoHIBDogU	/r/videos/comments/qcvmwz/awkward_moment_when_jeff_bezos_ignores_william/	[ "Talk about zero social skills. What a douche", "Came to call bozos a super douche. Beat me 2 it!", "And he litters!\n\n/S", "he literally asked him if he wanted to go\n\nwtf is that title", "I think this moment speaks VOLUMES about what's to come.", "Shatner’s half way through his epic speech and Bezo’s like ‘I’m bored now, let’s fire champagne at each other’.\n\nBeing rich really does chip away at your social skills.", "Eh...I mean Jeff Bezo’s is definitely a greedy asshole, but I think this specific moment is greatly overblown. I feel like I’ve been in situations like this multiple times myself so it doesn’t seem so bizarre to me.\n\n Jeff Bezos is listening to Shatner, then several crew members beckon to him and ask him to join in...he goes back to listening to Shatner, then he hears more celebrating from his crew, requests a champagne bottle and asks Shatner to join in. After the fanfare is over he immediately goes back to Shatner and asks him to continue.\n\n.\n\nWas it a little rude? Yes. But if you’re an awkward person or someone that has ADD like me, situations like this where multiple people attempt to interact with you at once can be difficult and can lead to everyone only having part of your attention instead of one person having full attention. I’ve had to apologize to people in the past for now giving them my full attention, unintentionally.\nIn my opinion he seems genuinely interested in what Shatner has to say...but also wants to be apart of the celebrations his staff are taking place in in the back. To me this is just a very normal, awkward human moment and nothing more.", "\"Folks, can you hold on a sec I want to hear what Mr. Shatner has to say about this once in a lifetime experience? Thank you. You were saying?\" \n\nThat's all he had to do.", "^^This.", "Wow what a fucking douchebag.", "do go on?", "He had every right to tell everyone to shut up and wait until Shatner was done speaking. He gave him no reverence. It was more than a little rude.", "in the full video, after the brief celebration with champagne (which is douchey) Jeff Bezos does turn to Shatner and gives him his undivided attention for like 4-5 minutes straight.\n\nthis clipped video is not really the whole story\n\nedit: here's the [rest of the video](https://youtu.be/dv7mWN1JoJA?t=6997) for reference", "What a dick, like his rockets", "Well, that clip is damn near art in my book.\n\nThere is Shatner representing the old, public, optimistic, discovery and adventure aspects of what space exploration used to be juxtaposed with Bezos and his modern, private, cynical perspective. There we have Shatner (Captain freakin' Kirk) waxing philosophical about the wonders of the once in a lifetime trip and there's Bezos completely not paying attention more focused on something profane while missing the point.", "“What you’ve given me is the most profound experience I can imagine.” is what he says seconds later.\n\nLots of reasons to be upset with Bezos but this just ain't one of them and is taken out of context. \n\nhttps://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/13/william-shatner-speech-to-jeff-bezos-after-blue-origin-launch.html\n\nIf someone gave me a gift like this and then we had an awkward moment immediately after the most amazing experience of my life I can't imagine it would bother me. He picked him for this trip, it was dangerous, it was expensive and I imagine they were both overwhelmed with emotions.", "I need you to follow me around and give me advice like this.", "Awkward moment when Jeff Bezos tells his team to shut up when they were celebrating.", "Yes, the awkward human moment where you're compelled to join a champagne fight over listening to a living icon of science fiction. So human, we've all been there.", "Awkward? Didn't they just go to space? I'm pretty sure everyone here is excited and in the moment. Shatner seems to be in the moment in a different way. I'm pretty sure he is way more preoccupied with the experience he just had than he is in Bezos \"giving him his due\" or whatever y'all are expecting. Like this isn't two dudes having a conversation at a mutual friend's birthday party. They just went to fucking space.", "i do most of my shopping on amazon and i still think it was very rude.", "Cos I’m poor and nice as shit", "Hey but of course at least it would have meant he would have avoided being rude /s", "Not really. He was in a rush, but if you watch later afterwards, you see that he listened to everything Shatner had to say.", "To be fair Shatner is conceited bag of hot wind that expects people to want to listen to what he's saying... you can't see as soon a Bezos stops talking he immediately becomes Debby Downer", "It was like he realized his gaff in the middle of it, and played it off by saying what he should be doing.\n\nThe id side of him was more excited about the laughter and fun behind him, than listening to someone who like to hear themselves speak.\n\nAll this really shows is that rich people have lost their awe of celebrity, and commit social gaffs the same as anyone.", ">this clipped video is not really the whole story\n\nWho the hell cares about whole stories anymore? \n\nGimme enough to get angry and I've got my fix until I see 30s of something \"wholesome\" that I can tweet to my pals.", "\"Smiles all around…\"\n\nWell, almost all around.", "Want to know what's worse? Shatner's a recovering alcoholic and Bezos clearly didn't know/care and offered him some anyway.", "William Shatner is someone who is known to ramble for a long time. I probably would have cut off the conversation as well.", "Huge hate boner", "\"Hey guys quiet down and let Mr. Shatner share his experience\"", "I didn’t know that. That’s shitty.", "Definition of a dick move.", "Was shatners experience more meaningful than their’s.", "Sure you could do that. But I don't know if that would be the \"normal\" thing to do either. \n\nI wold probably say \"Sry, 1 sec\", turn around do the I'm your provider thing then go back into the conversation and say \"sorry\" again. \n\nBut that's not smooth either. Think I agree with /u/FerretHydrocodone that its a awkward human situation. \n\nRather be angry that he is overworking his employer at amazon warehouses or some shit like that.", "goddamn, they should just end the whole Will They or Won’t They thing and fuck each other all ready. Put it on AmazonPrime.", "What a prick.", "Lol yes and he's more important than them", "I’d like to know how we are distributing peoples worth.", "Not a fan of Bezos, but why is it shitty? How the fuck is Bezos supposed to know he was an alcoholic?", "If you expected the billionaire who exploits hundreds of thousands of workers to show some basic human decency to a legendary actor, I have some bad news for you.", "star trek fame. captain motherfuckin kirk!", "Shatner was an advertisement.", "Pay someone to know it is key. There's no way his team could have missed that. He probably just didn't give a shit.", "Sure but it was still very rude. That did not warrant the interruption.", "Hey Whitey! Where’s your hat?", "This is actually the funniest shit to me because he doesn’t give a fuck about Shatner lmao he’s a sci-fi fan and he’s like “yea whatever expanse is better than Star Trek you’re welcome for the ride peace”", "It crazy that the first time this was posted the full video was shown. The top comments were all people pointing out how Bezos actually didn't do anything wrong, and the title was stupid.\n\nNow the video got clipped and the top comments are all people calling Bezos a douche for ignoring Shatner. \n\nTake note everyone.", "The video IS the whole story. Fading away when you should be listening is among the highest forms of disrespect.", "> Want to know what's worse? Shatner's a recovering alcoholic and Bezos clearly didn't know/care and offered him some anyway. \n \nDo you mean Shatner, or his wife?", "Yeah, not like there's video proof or anything.", "That was a long moment.", "Because before being blasted into space they must have gone through medical assessments and surely past addiction would have been flagged especially before he took on the financial risk of firing them into the air.", "Shatner probably been droning on about nothing the whole time. If most of us had his money & success we'll probably be just a shitty.", "Jeff is a dick for a lot of reason, but using this short clip to prove his a dick is fucking stupid.", "It wasn't really that bad, he continued the conversation and they clearly shared a moment.\n\nIt was a little misstep but its the sort of thing that happens millions of times in day to day life. You can tell shatner didn't care he was so grateful and full of inspiration in the end.", "In the full video, yea there's not much", "I think your misinterpretation is a more concerning sign of the time we live in.", "This scene reminded me of being at a house party and all my friends are having fun playing flip cup while I am listening to some stoned guy rambling about politics (and I'm thinking how to get the story wrapped up so I can join flip cup).", "You expect people to know who is an alcoholic?", "\"little\"? talk about apologist", "I dont want to watch this.", "When you're a multi-billion dollar corporation with the resources to shoot people into space and a PR budget that eclipses the gdp of entire countries, I don't think a quick google search is an unreasonable amount of research to do before you spray champagne in the face of a recovering alcoholic.", "Confirmed: Bezos is a fan of RedLetterMedia.", "Lex Bezos is such a douchebag. It's always about him. Shatner was trying to share a profound moment in his life with the guy, and he couldn't even spare him a couple of minutes. And then, he tries to give Bill the champagne not realizing that Shatner doesn't drink anymore. It's like, you couldn't do a minimal amount of research on the guy you invited for a free trip into space?!", "Hail corporate!", "Can’t Reddit tag this as “misleading”? I know I’ve seen it happen before.", "You've done worse and don't realize it, little edgelord. \"Hurrdurrr dae le faux pas means bad billionaire man is le psychopath reptilian?\"", "you could smell the toast coming from this post", "Jeffrey, get off Reddit", "This backdrop, this group of people, the sorority-type laughter make this flight seem like it was all staged and in actuality Shatner was just flown around Philly for a bit and brought back down.", "Even in this video he says 'I want to hear this'\n\nI don't see how this is awful other than 'Bezos bad'.", "I don't give a fuck about Shatner going to space. And I'm a Trekkie.\n\nAmazon is a misrable company to work for and it's well documented they treat their employees like shit. I don't know how Shatner can stomach bring around Bezos. I feel like shit everytime I order something off my family's Prime plan for something I couldn't find at a local store. Like, how many miles was this poor soul forced to walk to get this to me.\n\nIt's like that episode where LeForge on STNG gets his eyesight back due to Q's powers, but refuses to keep it because he knows where that gift comes from.", "\"Little\"?\n\nIt was awkward as fuck... what did you watch?", "He literally sprayed him with it. \n\nBut shatner was telling a shitty boring story, as usual. Gotta shut him up somehow", "are you ok", "Two douce bags. Typical Hollywood assholes who think the world evolves around them", "lol it's Kendall Roy.", "got it, I wondered if you were musing on Amazon's future foot soldiers etc etc", "Why is he wearing the flight uniform when he didn't even go up this time? Something so tryhard about him that makes me want to gag.", "I watched it live. This moment was cringe but as you said Bezos redeemed himself shortly afterwards and gave Shatner alot of attention.\n\nIf my understanding is correct i believe Shatner was bumped up the queue specifically so that he could be the PR vehicle to get more interested...he initially wanted to be in the first vehicle. So there is absolutely a bit of gave and take with Bezos and him.", "Thank you, Jeff. \n\nI watched a certain viral CEPHALOPOD-related Netflix series recently and thought the dialogue of the very relevant wealthy persons seemed simple, unprofessional, and just straight up dumb, especially compared to how amazing everything else was.\n\nJeff just showed us all what fucking dumbasses billionaires actually are.\n\nThe script for the series checks out. It is depressingly realistic. Jeff is a spoiled dumbass.", "Fuck Bezos, Fuck Amazon, Fuck Blue Origin.", "I heard the \"I want to hear this\", but I thought he was referring to the squeals the women made when showered with the champaigne - knowing that would be their reaction. \n\nHe could've been saying that about Shatner and his story, but that's not how it sounded to me. I wonder how it felt to Shatner.", "I'm not Shatner's biggest fan, but that was pretty shitty if Bezos. You can tell he's looking for an excuse to get away and do something playboy-esque.", "Bezos is a fuckin cunt", "\\Proceeds to buy more shit on Amazon.\\", "Sent from my Amazon bought phone", "Ya he is bad", "why's Jim the asshole here? \n\nwhen the old startrek actor starts a sentence with \"an you shoot straight up\" when talking about Rockets to the man who ordered them built, it's time to freaking switch off. \n\nyou don't become a billionaire to listen to someone ramble on like a geriatric in a retirement home. \n\nNot to be disrespectful, but I've heard Shatner's speechs before and they are [terribly boring](https://youtu.be/x2zHBymwRxE?t=346) I cannot understand the facination with him.", "He says \"I want to hear this\" and gives Mr. Shatner his full attention shortly after this clip ends. It's just a terribly clipped vod.", "I thought that was him basically saying \"hold that thought\" while he quickly did something else with the crowd of people. That makes sense given he did go back to listening to Shatner right after.\n\nIt's hard when there's multiple things going on at once, with lots competing for your attention, and Bezos is still just a bag of meat and water like the rest of us.", "Rather he put Shatner on hold for a second while he dealt with everyone else who was there, then he could actually listen to Shatner without everyone else fucking about trying to get his attention.\n\nIf you watch the full clip, Shatner clearly isn't bothered by it. It's just a faux pas on the part of Bezos, and a small one at that, one which seems less important to Shatner than the spaceflight he just went on.\n\nI know Reddit likes to paint Bezos as some bond villain, and not always without reason, but it's reaching to do so here.", "And his wife died drunk drowning in a pool", "Did you watch the full video? They had a really good conversation. Bezos was mostly just listening but watch the full vid.", "Hail bullshit!", "Even how he asks...\"Give me a Champaign bottle, I want one!\" no class, no manners.", "Stop shopping at Amazon. It’s so fucking easy", "Nah, just more of a shift away from public scientific endeavors towards private profit/ego driven motives.", "Sure I agree but much more importantly, vote on politicians and parties who talk about ending the fucking tax havens in the world. It's time to make the ultra rich pay their fair share of taxes. \n\nDon't let certain countries have minimal taxes as their damn business model. When a country like fucking Ireland is in on the race to the bottom, something is fucked up. And it's not difficult to avoid having to pay taxes in such a world.", "what a massive douchebag", "That...would have also made him look like an asshole though and we’d be having this same conversation.", "Why is Shatners time and experience more valuable than the 8+ other crew members...? Just because he’s a celebrity?", "You idiots. He even said I want to hear this, popped the champagne for 5 seconds then listened to him for 5 minutes after non stop. idiots this sub.", "You get it", "yes they instruct him via earpiece after his ad lib improv", "Jesus dude, if all these people without the resources Bezoa had knew this how can you not be surprised he doesn't? \n\nIt's not like we all know Shatner personally, we all just know how to use Google.", "He might be rich, but you can't buy class.", "Yes, cause he's a celeb but also cause he's famous for starring on a television show that helped formed a lot of people's ideals of space travel.\n\nBut yes, if you wanna oversimplify cause he's a celeb. Probably how Bezos saw it too, clearly.\n\nPlus, Shatner is actually trying to reflect while the others are just spraying champagne, lol.", "Username checks out.", "A lot is two words", "Who are all the girls in the back?\n\nAlso I feel like musk would have listened to shatner", ">in the full video, after the brief celebration with champagne (which is douchey) Jeff Bezos does turn to Shatner and gives him his undivided attention for like 4-5 minutes straight.\n>\n>this clipped video is not really the whole story\n>\n>edit: here's the [rest of the video](https://youtu.be/dv7mWN1JoJA?t=6997) for reference\n\nWho is the girl cuddling him?", "K, yeah, didn't watch full thing... but, come on, mate. Come on, mate... Come on... \n\nWatched the thing everyone is talking about... \n\nAm American... \n\nYeah, you're never gonna be rich. Why you towing their line?", "C'mon man, bezos good", "Alright so you're obviously asking this genuinely i'll try to explain.\n\nFirst, i get it. The system is rigged, the rich get richer and get to play with an unfair set of rules. The poor seem to get trapped in their situation and it seems to get more difficult. A few people get away with too many resources. I don't entirely blame the rich people themselves as much as the system, but of course the push back against Bezos is warranted.\n\nSecondly, yea i'll never be rich rich. But over the last 2 years i've been able to hit and exceed my financial goals, i'm where I wanted to be and have some extra to invest. I'm happy with that, i don't want stupid amounts of money i prefer free time and a stress free life. I don't understand people who want to amass billions.\n\nBut the reason i was towing the line. I think nowadays people turn on each other on the drop of a hat. That's not fair, that's not good. It could be a celebrity, a rich person, someone from another country or ethnicity, gender etc.\n\nPeople are too quick to label someone as the \"other\", demonise them and pick up their pitch forks. I think it's very important to keep an empathetic view point to other people and judge them on the merits of their actions.\n\nYou want to criticise amazon's policies, their tax exemptions, enact better policies for our economic system. I'm with you 100%. You want to turn him into a disney villain based on a misleading little snippet and raise your pitchforks, i'll counter that with what I saw.", "Am I wrong? The system is rigged. We can agree on that... or not. \n\nFirst, fuck rich people. Exactly, how do poor people cope with your white society... of 1984 private prisons, then 1985 crack shows up. \n\nSecondly, yeah, fuck me... But, I'm glad you're doing good. \n\nThird: I don't disagree.\n\nFourth: How do we change it? \n\nFifths: apologize? Cause white people said so...?", "I wouldn't give a shit either to do a full background research of every person in the group. Maybe just behave like, you know, a normal person? \"hey have some champagne\", \"oh no thanks I don't use alcohol\", \"oh sorry didn't know\"", "ah yes because I'm definitely English native speaker. How many languages do you speak? I'm sure you know all the phrases in Finnish?", "Rather have Finnish social skills than live in a shit hole 3rd world country like USA :D Enjoy", "There's a four letter word I'd use to describe Bezos, but I'm not sure I'm allowed to use it here. I'm sure you all know what it is though." ]	133	videos	Awkward moment when Jeff Bezos ignores William Shatner to shoot off champagne
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qcvpvy/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qcvpvy/deleted_by_user/	[ "Love this guy’s delivery", "\"Slightly bubbly, mango-scented, poisonous, aluminum flavored moistness\"", "\"Our delicious cans of brain murdering peach fart flavored earth-blood\"", "I don’t understand this guy’s selective complaining about hard seltzers. It’s an alcoholic drink, just like hundreds of others in the market?", "Im pretty sure its made with rum." ]	5	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/IYXdsWJPbv4	/r/videos/comments/qcvqkq/horny_drunk_girl_denied/	[ "I never understood bar tenders who will get their customers that wasted. Crazy.", "Go be a bartender and you will....its called MONEY\n\nImba firm believer in deal with your own life, its not my problem you got drunk...thats your problem for being a light weight bitch who cant control your own impulses", ">thats your problem for being a light weight bitch who cant control your own impulses\n\nBut it's not just the customer's problem. If that light weight goes out and kills or injures someone or herself, the bar owner and bar tender can be sued into oblivion.", ">Go be a bartender and you will....its called MONEY\n\nI was a bartender in multiple places for 14 years. I've done my time.", "Sign me up" ]	5	videos	Horny Drunk Girl Denied
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ49YFCMt2k	/r/videos/comments/qcvyvj/nobody_wants_to_work_anymore/	[ "Employers don't want to pay enought to make rent and eat, they don't get people wanting to work there. It's not rocket science.", "Ever so slightly grouping rednecks, antivaxers, bad parents, spoiled parents, bad tippers, and people complaining about the job market all into one. This man must live a marble home. \n\nReal quick: \n\n1. The job market is wide open. There are tons of opportunities out there for people who have skill. Hell, remember 2007 when the market crashed and there were no jobs? Well, we're going through massive inflation, and there are more job openings than ever. \n\n2. Apprenticeships in the trades are desperate to get young people in. You can make a great living, but you won't be Steve Jobs rich. Unfortunately, the youth have been sold a bag of goods that tells them that they need to work at Google or Amazon, or develop their first startup at 16, otherwise they're destined to be failures. \n\n3. People that aren't skilled workers, and who may need a job at Mcdonalds are shortly going to be out of a job as these megacorps use this argument to justify going fully electronic. No more human interaction, just kiosks. Then we'll be complaining that the robots took our jobs. \n\nI get this is a very complex issue, but this guys is just bundling all the trending hated groups into one argument to make a YouTube video that gets him revenue. In my opinion, he should throw himself into this category as well.", "The video seems to specifically target people complaining about the shortage of workers in the service industry....", "Solid parody. Funny voice. Funny cuts. Funny message.\n\nI laughed!", "Did you watch the video?", "r/iamverysmart", "bro what are you even talking about", "While that's true, there is also a lot more complications behind the problem. If you're talking about large restaurant chains, I would agree. Fast food thrived during the pandemic, and workers saw little to zero from that shift. \n\nIf you look at smaller businesses in the service industry then that's completely different. Closures due to mandates, rising costs due to inflation, and a customer base that's pinching pennies due to the increase of uncertainty and inflation all culminate into a big problem. \n\nFor bigger chains this is totally ok, because they're all pushing towards automation. They can afford to lose head count and still make profits, because they have the means to wait out the current economic crisis.\n\nAlso, this isn't just in the service industry, it's across all industries. I've seen mega corps buy up large percentages of the market, because smaller shops knew they couldn't survive the pandemic and issues with supply chain. From a work force perspective, I'm seeing people move laterally to bigger firms because of stability. Instead of taking a risk at a smaller firm, people are even taking pay cuts and title decreases to work at the big corps.", "I thought it was a hilarious parody of all the entitled people wanting our service industry to put up with shit wages and no benefits. “It’s funny because it’s true!”", "I'm...sorry...but i have no idea what you're trying to say. Brain not working well, I guess.", "I loved the podcast (I think The Daily?) that interviewed a McDonald's employee about how McDonald's gave away free mcmuffins to essential workers to say thanks, but the McDonald's employees got nothing.", "He didn’t watch the video", "ITT: people not watching the video and instead pull up a soap box to solve the nation’s unemployment.", "~~unemployment~~ fucked up, predatory, classist, greedy version of capitalism we have become. FTFY.", "Capitalism is great, stop drinking the Kool-aid", "Yikes.", "what kool-aid? the version of the world we've created for ourselves is fueled by greed and hatred. i never said capitalism was just BAD, i said we've allowed it to get a bit too predatory and fucked up.\n\nMaybe you should consider that there are more sides to a coin than two. :)", "Wow kudos to this dude for reminding me of that random 1-2 months of calling service industry workers heroes before treating them like animals again. I completely forgot about that.", "Greed maybe, but hatred? I don't know where you're getting that from.", "NOBODY WANTS TO WORK ANYMORE!", "Oh, that's easy. Republicans. Remember how they tried to overthrow the government in a violent, hate-filled coup?\n\nRemember how they said that children dying was made up by the left wing, which is comprised of child molesters and communists, because they think people should be able to get more affordable education and healthcare?\n\nRemember how they still stage protests and still talk about civil war being imminent?\n\nRemember Alex Jones? Donald Trump? Ted Cruz? Mitch McConnell? Texas? Florida?\n\nRemember how they also use the bible to cover up their hatred and selfishness?\n\nRemember when the crazy trumper ran over the girl with his car?\n\nRemember when they tried to take horse medication for covid instead of a vaccine?\n\nRemember how they STILL angrily protest (screaming, carrying weapons, etc.) to this very day about how they want all democrats to die because of the vaccine, even though all republican leaders have also been vaccinated?\n\nRemember?\n\nEdit: speaking of Kool-Aid, do you remember Fox News?\n\nRemember how they defended Nazis and other evil, bigoted people, by just saying, \"Both sides!\" after all those violent nazi protests?\n\nRemember how the dad killed his kids because he had become convinced they would grow up to be evil and had \"serpent DNA\" because of QAnon and Fox News?\n\nSpeaking of that, remember QAnon?\n\nRemember Tucker Carlson spreading lies and anger every night? Sean Hannity? Steve Bannon?", "1. The job market is open, but the conditions to fulfill the positions is not ideal. First there are a lot of people (particularly women) who need consistent and affordable childcare. Female labor participation has been going down since 2009 for this reason, and the pandemic only made it worse. Also there are many positions that want experienced labor and are trying not to hire with the expectation of training.\n2. These are pretty shitty jobs, but they do pay well. My wife was a steelworker apprentice in Texas for 8 months. She made good money but she had to work 12 hours a day for 6 days a week. This was a 'union' job. If the trades want more people they need to actually improve the working conditions or increase the compensation for essentially giving up your life. Friend in plumbing said it was pretty much the same for plumbing.\n3. Sure. But there should be pause to note that essentially paying people a living wage now means automation is more viable. We knew it was coming but now we know it is happening now. \n\nI don't think that blaming workers for systemic problems in our society is very productive. When the labor shortage started politicians and business owners were very quick to blame lazy workers and social programs. We know now that unemployment insurance was NOT the cause, but yet I don't hear any apologies from those parties for essentially insulting workers. We don't even have a good explanation for what is happening, and now you are once again blaming workers. Maybe...just maybe...this isn't caused by people who are at the bottom of the class hierarchy.", ">Maybe you should consider that there are more sides to a coin than two. :)", "Yeah there isn't.", "I worked like 8 years in the restaurant industry before moving out of it 3 years ago. \n\nThis dude is spot on. It was hellish af. The satirical attitude this dude is taking is fucking spot on. You got treated with so little respect and the sheer entitlement random assholes would hoist on you was insane. God forbid you spend a day not working at 100% or if you make a mistake. \n\nI do not blame people for not wanting to go to those kind of jobs. I actively encourage any friends in the restaurant industry to get the fuck out. I have been mocked, ridiculed, embarrassed and much more in that field. All just to get a 18% tip.\n\nLife couldn't be better now. Repressing those memories and living in a good place but fuck man, I feel bad for those that have to deal with that shit.", "\"At least I don't tip well\" is legit a badge of pride for some people. Trash people. But not cool trash people like Oscar the Grouch.", "None of this has shit (directly) to do with capitalism though, which is my point.\n\nAnd yes a lot of republicans are crazy and dumb but painting them as one big group that's just all inherently evil is wrong and unproductive. Most don't think a civil war is coming, or care about Alex Jones, don't listen to the more outdated Bible parts and definitively most of them aren't fucking terrorists.", "Nuance for me, none for thee", ">None of this has shit (directly) to do with capitalism though, which is my point.\n\nHuh, I thought you asked me where the hatred was coming from. So I told you.\n\nI don't think you actually know what \"your point\" is, bro. No offense.", "NOBUDDY WAWNTS TO WARK ANYMOWR!\n\nthis is up there with \"I have a settlement but I need cash now!\"", "I misread your previous post, I thought you were blaming the hatred on capitalism but that's backwards. I still disagree with the other shit you said though.", "sall good. diff strokes diff folks n all that.", "People don't want to work anymore because the corruption has made itself glaringly obvious in the last year and a bit that rich get richer while the working stiffs continue to get poorer. The worlds billionaires added trillions to their wealth while everyone else either lost their business or job. Now prices are going up on everything and once again the rich benefit while the poor continue to suffer. \n\nMost people work just to survive and aren't able to put money away for savings, the lower and middle class are turning into a slave class and soon there will be no opportunity to for them to move up the ladder. The wealth gap between the rich and the poor is only increasing creating further division among the classes with the lower class having less and less of a voice. People don't want to work cause they are fed up with being screwed over", "By the look of him, he never worked anyway.", "Besides pay the other #1 thing they could do to get workers is to provide them a safe work environemnt. Including protecting them from all these now openly brazen hate mongers.", "But at least I don’t tip well! 🤣", "Yay post-empire America is FUN!", "Better get on the phone with JG Wentworth.", "This is Brent Terhune, very funny guy. I saw his standup a few months back, he was very nice after the show when I met him and I bought his koozies that say \"Emotional Support Beer\"", "The time to move up the ladder is high school and college. When you Dick around in high school and drink your way through college( if you even go) you’ve likely already missed your chance to move up. The 28 year old working at McDonald’s as a cashier who does nothing but complain about billionaire’s greed while they spend their paycheck at the bar and the drug dealer is beyond redemption. They go screwed over by their past self. Are there problems with the system? Sure. Most of the problems can be overcome with hard work and dedication though.", "Where I worked I never got the mistreatment, but thanking me for my service seemed empty to me. \n\nAll of them took my service for granted when there weren't any supply chain shortages or a pandemic, I still had to show up like there wasn't a pandemic, I still got paid like there wasn't a pandemic (store owner kicked $200 cash out of his own pockets to all of us then one more time with like $100 or $50 I forget which).\n\n Wish I could have told them to stop acting like I landed on Normandy because I rang up their bananas in the middle of a pandemic.\n\nIn the end my employers dropped me like a bad habit anyway so I guess they weren't thankful for my service.", "It's hard to repress the memories 😪", "~~They took our jobs!~~ Nobody wants to work anymore!\n\nIt's almost pitch-perfect.", "Gotta give them credit, haven’t seen that commercial in God knows how long. But if I needed to dial up ole JG, I know his number still to this day thanks to that goddamn jingle", "Dude's videos about the NFL are great too.", "As a pizza delivery driver the first year of the pandemic was kind of amazing. I went from $40-60 in tips a night to $100+ every night. I got thank you notes, and face to face praise from customers every day.\n\nI didn’t have to worry about my power being shut off. I was able to buy a few fun things for myself.\n\nHowever, none of the people working in the store got more money. So they’ve been quitting like crazy. And demand for our food has continued to rise. It gets busier every week. \n\nAnd most of the customers stopped giving a shit about us. So I’m working longer harder hours and my tips are down again, close to pre-pandemic.\n\nI want off this ride. I want to just sell all my shit and move to… I have no idea. Out of the country? Is there anywhere better?", "I love this. 😂", "877 CASH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW", "You had me in the first half. You're right, you can lock in better chances for a good future, but then you turned and blamed it on drinking and smoking weed. Sure, people that work entry level and basic jobs deserve pay that is... entry level and basic in nature. But they also deserve to be able to afford rent and groceries. There are a LOT of people working these types of jobs, and \"bootstraps\" isn't the answer. Simply put, not everybody is skilled.", "Um, no. That's not how it works.", "Good idea - go into massive debt to go to college to learn how to be \"politically correct\" where everyone has an opinion as long as it's not different than the current cancel culture opinion.\n\nThis is one area where the right are right, unfortunately. Colleges don't breed open and free thought anymore. They breed groupthink. If you disagree you are shunned.\n\nThen, after you spend 4 years earning your \"degree\" you start at the absolute bottom of the pack and have to spend years working your way up. \n\nOr you can go to a trades school for 18 months - come out with skills you can immediately use earning 2-3 times as much as that entry level college graduate.\n\nI'm not saying trades are for everyone, but our current education system funnels most people into a college track where you are expected to go for 4 years to get a degree that you probably won't be using in a decade.\n\nAt least that was my experience. What I do now is nothing like what I went to college for.", "I look forward to places trying to automate, having the same customers that abused the workers, come in and smash your touch screens weekly, and slowly realize that replacing/maintaining electronic doodads isn't the cost-saver they thought. The corps with greed dragons at the helm will either go under, or remove those people from leadership and start paying people living wages.", "ITS MY MONEY AND I WANT IT NOOOOOOOW", "I say this with peace and love but you’re an absolute moron", "Reminds me of that one HCA winner who only wore t-shirts proclaiming what an asshole he was (including in the photo his family used in his obituary).\n\nAmazing, these people. Real turds in the rough.", "Literally all of this is directly connected to our ridiculously unsustainable version of capitalism and its \"profit over people\" attitude, but if you say that you're a commie socialist who should leave America.", "I'm not saying you're wrong, but you definitely don't get it. The economy requires many different types of jobs. If you do better for yourself, and leave a bad job, that job doesn't disappear. It goes to someone else. You're just passing the buck to the next poor schmuck. So yes, it's important to do the best you can for yourself and advance to bigger and better things. But billionaires didn't grow by 11% in the last year alone simply because we didn't apply ourselves. The rich have been squeezing the poor for all of history, but the ratio of rich to poor, and the rate of the squeeze, are variables. We have entered into an era of too many wolves to sheep. If an entire class of jobs within the economy are disappearing and/or have become unsustainable to live with, that will have a negative effect on all of us. Even for those of us who have worked our way up to cushy jobs, it's ignorant to think our sectors aren't propped up by the underclass.", "It's almost as if it was total bullshit meant for PR purposes!", "Military", "yeah. same as a gun debate.\n\n\"YER GONNA TAKE OUR GUNS!?\"\n\nconversation ends.\n\nlol. there can never be a healthy discussion about shit like this in america.", "r/IWantOut", "MAGA conservatism is a death cult. Pro war, pro pollution, pro spreading covid to own the libs, anti affordable healthcare. I don't think they wear robes and sing Gregorian chants, but sounds like a death cult to me.", "Cuz the practice broke up or something. Its different now and the number thing a less memorable seven 8s.", "Ha!", "Yeah dude just become disposable government property", "BTC seven years ago?", "Talking about being mocked....\n\nI did a summer program in college where I worked at sea world in San Diego. One day I was on trash duty and heard a mom tell her son \"that is why you stay in school\"\n\nI casually made conversation and the mom asked how long I had been working here and explained just about a month as I was a college student doing a summer program. \n\nHer look was so awesome of complete confusion that the lowly trash guy was actually staying in school.", "Even if you are not in the military, you are still disposable gov. property.", "I fully clicked this knowing it's a 50/50 shot of being infuriating or pretty dang good.\n\nJust delightful.", "Man I already did that 20 years ago. lol", "THEY TUKKRRRDRRRR", "I imagine you already know but I just want to say it myself to add to the consensus. Unemployment isn't the issue, our lives have been robbed of anything meaningful or equal. We're all being used & abused to make others dreams come true and no one wants to do that. Until social media it was easy to believe that enough people were into improving the world to keep it happening for all of us. Instead, life quality has been on decline for the poor for the past 30 years and shows no signs of improving. If anything, the greed & lack of sympathy are becoming more brazen. I'd rather tear down this disgusting system that rewards cruelty & destroy my temporary \"comforts\" than continue exacerbating this gross reality.", "This is not funny or smart\n\nEdit : bunch of simpletons", "Right? Lasted a few headlines and then it was back to Karen's screaming at people and throwing hot coffee on workers", "The fucked up thing is I had one Bitcoin like 9-10 years ago. Never paid attention and I think it was on a hdd that got reformatted accidentally.", "“You have a pancake butt Stacy, get back out there.”\n\n/s", "Largest jobs program the US has.", "There ya go lol", "I absolutely love this guy. Discovered him last year. His satire is brilliant.", "Ya, I remember spending a couple nights trying to get $20 in bitcoin back in like 2010. Was a giant pain in the ass back then. No idea what happened to that computer at this point.", "Then learn to cook and stay at home.", "Yikes. Hey you could be that guy who threw out the flash drive with hundreds of thousands (at the time so prob worth wayyy more now) worth in BTC and went to the dump to search for it (he did not find it).\n\nI had some I bought years ago for like $600 and sold earlier this year when it was in the 30s. Made sense then bc it was the highest it's even been and looked like it was sliding back down 🤷‍♂️\n\nThat's life sometimes", "Boomers really expected to pay under $10 for a decent sized sit down lunch for the rest of their lives.", "If you have not used that hard drive you can easily recover a formatted drive. Lmk if you need any more info.", "> I had some I bought years ago for like $600 and sold earlier this year when it was in the 30s. Made sense then bc it was the highest it's even been and looked like it was sliding back down 🤷‍♂️\n\nStill 50x passively, that's awesome.", "Either be Jeff bezo's disposable property, or be the government's. That's the choice some people have. Most people don't own their own freedom.", "Cops love being called heroes and then not working. Why can't we have a little bit of that for ourselves?", "There are people who are stuck in entry level jobs for a lifetime because they never aspire for more.", "New Zealand.", "I worked an entry level job… when I was 15. I worked my way up through hard work and an education.", "That’s one place I’ve been thinking about. Seems serene and beautiful and… some of the funniest and most talented people lately seem to be from there.", "EATIN' BEANS TO OWN THE LIBS", "I just wrote a 9 page essay about the process you have to go through to move there. And it sounds like a great place to live.", "r/woosh", "Do a 1-2 year course/certificate for IT at a community college. Had a friend quit teaching and he is now making triple his old salary. \n\n\nThe only way out is up or (6 feet) down. Welcome to America!", "> but thanking me for my service seemed empty to me\n\nImagine how the military feels.", "That's exactly how I try to look at it instead of the fomo of what I didn't get. \n\nI basically bought it and forgot abt it bc it was flat for so long lol", "add to that, I noticed I got better tips as a man serving women than my female coworkers got serving women, but aside from the guy who thought he could tip his way into people's pants, men tipped me and my coworkers the same. That's not to say I didn't get the unsolicited lewd comments (from men and women) but its generally pretty easy to laugh off as harmless when you're 200lbs.\n\njust one of dozens of reasons why service jobs suck and no one should do them longer than they need to unless they really enjoy it. it warms my heart when I'm served by a kid who has no idea what they're doing because it means there aren't enough adults with job experience left dealing with that bullshit", "There's so many cases like this. Probably a million+ BTC have been lost forever, nobody knows. When the total supply is only 21 million BTC losing a million of them is significant in terms of creating a supply shock.", "If you have a structured settlement and you need cash now…", "i completely agree with you and i think something needs to be done to fix all these problems but i have some hypothetical questions: Someone busted their butt in school and work and have finally got to a point where they're making a good living and are considered \"the 1%\" because they make 2-300K a year. Do those people deserve to pay way more than everyone else? The simple answer is yes, but what about cost of living to where they make that money? also, i know a lot of people say that the service industry needs to increases wages, which i again agree with. but once that happens the cost of food at those establishments go up and customers dont want to pay those prices which in turn force a lot of small food service businesses to shut down. margins are already thin in most mom and pop food service establishments. Again, i agree with you, but the solution isnt easy.", "Stop telling people!", "Never!", "[I have some texts between a friend and I going back to when Bitcoin was $30 and we set up an algo trading bot on Mt. Gox](https://imgur.com/a/86a9aQ9).\n\nBack in the later half of 2015 when I bought my house I was going to sell off 10 BTC for an additional down-payment but thankfully my mortgage broker couldn't figure out how to verify authenticity of funds since it was the first time anybody had asked them to do so. They said they could figure it out but it might delay things so I told them not to worry about.\n\nBitcoin was only at ~$800 so thank fucking god I didn't/couldn't do it. Unfortunately my friend went on to have over 100 BTC \"hacked/stolen\" when Mt. Gox went under and they are still in the settlement process some 8 years later.", "Found the boomer", "I lookedat your profile for the essay. I would be thankful if you could share it.", "I actually liked working as a server, and I'll likely go back to it once my kid is in school, but the fact that you basically need to accept that sexual harassment is a part of the job is absurd. Not just from customers, but usually from the kitchen staff and management, and of course nothing ever happens if it's reported, and reporting it in the first place just puts a target on your back. The only time something ever happened was when the victim was a minor, and even then the perpetrator was just moved to another location.", "in england we clapped for the health workers, several times.. and they still wanted better pay and working conditions... \n\nare our claps worth nothing ? /s for those that need it", "His name is Brent Terhune. You should check out the rest of his stuff. It's pretty good.", ">The fucked up thing is I had one Bitcoin like 9-10 years ago. Never paid attention and I think it was on a hdd that got reformatted accidentally.\n\nIf it was \"fast\" reformatted there is a still a chance. The fast reformatting doesn't actually erase the data, it just \"flags it\" as available for overwriting later in", "Just about to finish a bachelor's in networking and administration with an associate's in web design, please tell me more.", "THEY TERK ERR JERBS!!!", "Norway is nice.", "It actually is. There are European countries where they pay their employees well over $15/hr and the average price difference was like $0.60. Also the only reason the pay gap between the highest paid at a company and the lowest is because the lowest wage never changed but the top keeps taking more and more. Cut the fluff from the top and pay your workers, take a page from Dan Price's book, it clearly works.", "I'll be honest, I thought that would be way different and a risky click. The internet has ruined me.", "Ok", "Long, long before the Pandemic I worked at a large-ish Fortune 500 Company, and even though I worked my way up from minimum wage to a few bucks more, I was still called upon for emergency tasks, such as working the switchboard after hours because the regular operator was ill or couldn't stay late or couldn't work on a Saturday...etc etc. My Boss always assured me when I agreed to help out (in retrospect, I was saving his butt, but I was still sipping the Corporate Flavor-Aid at the time) that \"Your day will come, trust me.\" His implication was that I'd get a promotion/pay raise but once the early 1980s Recession hit I was laid off, just like my boss was. I guess my point is that sometimes no matter how hard you work and whether or not your work is appreciated, in the end it's Every Person For Him or Herself. Never count on the Company.", "> cost of food at those establishments go up and customers dont want to pay those prices\n \nMost of the cost of food isn't labor, it's overhead and materials. increasing a service workers wage by 2x for example would only increase the food price by about 10%, but then restaurants now have an increased customer base because now their service workers can afford to eat out and have some amount of leisurely spending and arent living paycheck to paycheck. \n \nWe pretend America has these unsolvable issues that dozens of developed countries in the world have solved for decades. \n \n> Do those people deserve to pay way more than everyone else? The simple answer is yes, but what about cost of living to where they make that money?\n \nPoor people work in those HCOL areas as well, though. Not to mention, most people asking for higher taxes aren't on people making 300k, even biden is only implementing it on people making 400k or more. It's the people who have enough money they couldn't spend it in a hundred lifetimes. Billionaires and multibillionaires.", "A huge factor (other than all of the glaringly obvious ones regarding low pay, bad management, etc), is that service/retail employees shouldn't also double as security officers for minimum wage. The amount of times people come into an establishment and immediately get confrontational/hostile toward the employees is pretty significant. It's not worth an employee's safety or life to tell some 250 pound meathead to put on a mask or to stop harassing other masked customers or employees. Honestly, every place like this should have security on site (if we were a functional country here in the US) to ensure this type of stuff is enforced and also for the employee's protection. \n\n\nThe company I used to work for employed a 70 year old man as their \"security\", which went about as well as you could imagine. Most of the time it was up to the employees to confront problematic customers, which never went over well and put them into some extremely risky situations.", "Yikes, 8 years?\n\nI did 1 month and that was enough to make me go \"Never again\".", "Hey, that isn't fair.\n\nYou are also the property of the board members of Raytheon, Halliburton, and Boeing.", "What the fuck are we even working for anymore? Those retired folks all worked so they can own houses, not so some company can profit off them.", "How is it that you know this?", "Its a free market... people don't need to take jobs that they don't want", "with this mindset, you should only eat at places where they pay employees a living wage (they do exist, but they are few).\n\nDon't punish the servers for the company's shitty behavior", "\"IF YOU'RE TOO SCARED TO HAVE YOUR HOUSE BURN DOWN THEN DON'T HAVE ONE!\" \n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3hzoIBA4oI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3hzoIBA4oI)\n\nFor anyone who hasn't seen these videos, one thing that absolutely kills me about Brent's videos where he portrays this MAGA type guy is at the end of almost everyone since covid started, they usually end with him coughing up a lung after a rant of how covid is fake or vaccines shouldn't be mandated.", "I will attempt to post it. But no promises. Otherwise DM me your email and I can shoot you a copy.", "Because I worked in the hospitality industry for 15 years.", "What's wrong with bettering your skills and finding a better job?", "I worked in the restaurant industry for 15 years. Burned out and went to a community college for two years while still working fulltime plus. Worked my ass off, got an internship 15-20 hours a week while still working fulltime. I finally got a job in my desired background and left the restaurant industry. Eventually I went into business for myself. I had zero money in the bank when I went to school. I took out the minimum amount to get through. If you have a job and are a male, there are zero grants for you. I'm a lower middle class moron. If I can do it, anyone can. No excuses, just hard work with set goals.", "> conservatism is a death cult.\n\nftfy", "here's the thing: wealth class and financial struggle is simply a facade fabricated by the top 1%. even that term, \"top 1%\" is a fucking mislead trigger term. on the grand scheme of wealth inequality, even $100 millionaires are still lower income. so to say that we need a strong middle class is absolutely utter bullshit. the idea of billionaires is economically outrageous and no one truly understands the scope of it. if you had to pay $1 every second to live, some one with a million dollars would last 11 days...bezos would last 6 thousand years. let that sink in.", "If your credentials are for jobs in the range of pizza driver you're going to have an incredibly hard time finding a better life in another country. Europe does have better welfare programs, but despite what reddit tells you, they don't want welfare burdens immigrating so you're going to have to compete with the cheaper eastern European labor they typically hire for non-skilled labor.", "Ok", "I kinda agree with you, but I think there's wiggle room with just 'conservativism' and I don't like thinking in binaries of 'good and evil' with broad ideas or groups. That being said, I agree, modern conservatism is a death cult and it's irrefutable that MAGA isn't.", "What, do you mean I can't be a Walmart greeter and become wealthy doing it???", "I'm curious, what did you end up going into?", "You have to get some sort of education. Doesn't have to be a lot; you don't need a 4 year degree or anything. It just has to be enough to get you in the door to a larger, better paying job. It'll take some time too. You gotta put the work in for years before you'll start to feel the real stability and economic payoff. 4 years in college will do it, but you'll pay for the time. 2-3 years in an entry level job will too, but you have to get your foot in the door. Code camps are an option. Learn a bit about project management. Get some tech certifications. I'm sure there are a dozen other options as well; I just happen to be a tech worker, so that's what I'm familiar with. Tech also happens to have some easy and cheap online resources to let you teach yourself the basics.\n\nTake [this guy](https://www.wired.com/story/gig-economy-uber-lyft-doordash-jeffrey-fang/). He was the best at the gig economy rat race, and slowly saw his earnings shaved to the bone. At the same time, one by one he watched his driver friends found more stable, better paying jobs. They climbed the ladder while he found himself at the bottom of a hole the gig companies keep digging deeper.", "Jokes on you, I never want to work. Its just something I do to prevent my cats from starving.", "Tech. I'm currently a software engineer.", "You're gonna make more than us 2 years with your bachellor's, but in respect to a non-skilled labor position the help desk jobs a 2 year in IT can net is still a substantial life improvement over living generous tip to generous tip.\n\nSo don't quit your 4 year finish it off.", "The thing is, did anyone want to work ever? Work sucks. I do it b/c i get paid.", "The exact same thing happened at my Dominos. I just had to quit because I was the only driver who also made pizzas and took call in orders because the actual pizza makers sat in the office on their phones.", "If you get a BA, you've got your foot in the door already. I know it doesn't feel like it from that end, but you've done the hard part. Work with your school to find companies they work with. Go to job fairs. You'll find an entry job. Then it's a matter of networking (with people, not routers). You'll be able to move your way up, or from company to company if that's what you want to do as you continue to gain new skills.", "but but there's a labour shortage and we need more TFWs to fill it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!", "Non-infantry MOS's are literally 9-5s where you do whatever the fuck you want in your free time, and is ran like a business only better because there's written processes for everything. Military is unironically a good option if you're that hard stuck in Bronze queue.", "Reposting to keep in everyone's mind why we are short on workers:\n\n1. Lots of people died during the pandemic, so can't work anymore.\n2. Lots of people have permanent health problems from Long Covid, so can't work anymore.\n3. Lots of people have parents with Long Covid who now require a caretaker, so can't work anymore.\n4. Lots of people have parents that died of Covid, inherited unspent retirement funds or even a house, so don't need to work anymore.\n5. Lots of people were depending on Grandma and Grandpa to watch their own grandkids for free, but grandparents died, so can't work without someone to watch the kids.\n6. Lots of kids are still too young to get vaccinated, so their parents don't want to send them back to regular school just yet, so can't work when someone needs to be home with the kids during online-school.\n7. Lots of people lost their homes during the pandemic, despite rent memorandums and such, and obviously it's difficult to get and hold a job while homeless, so all those people aren't working anymore.\n8. Lots of people had time during the pandemic to dip into creative pursuits and discovered they can make decent money at it, so they aren't working regular jobs anymore.\n9. Lots of people retired early so they could enjoy whatever time they have left, so aren't working.\n10. Lots of people got deported over the last however-many years, so aren't working here.\n11. Lots of people who had already immigrated here got scared off during all the chaos of the last however-many years and moved their family somewhere safer, so aren't working here.\n12. Lots of people who wanted to immigrate legally couldn't because of changes to the laws in the last however-many years, so they aren't working here.\n13. Lots of people who wanted to immigrate any way they could got scared off by all the chaos of the last however-many years, so decided to go elsewhere, and aren't working here.\n14. Lots of people who would be working age now were never born because most Millennials were raised with \"don't have kids you can't afford\" and then were never paid enough to be able to afford kids, so all those non-existent people aren't working.\n15. Some parents are discouraging or not allowing their teenage children to take part-time/summer jobs due to the pandemic, so they aren't working.\n\nAdd onto all this the fact that people now CAN get better jobs instead of being forced to work minimum wage, and suddenly nobody can be found to do those. For some perspective, UPS has bumped starting pay (temporarily) up by over $7 an hour (50% increase) just to try and keep people around so they can stop forcing their office employees out on the line to make up for the labor shortage. And its worked.\n\nEdit: I originally saw the list posted by /u/OpheliaRainGalaxy though I'm not sure if he was the creator of it.", "I like to call real estate agents and see how close we can get to a settlement before disappearing and blocking the number. It's a better use of my time.", "Great YouTuber, A+++ would watch again.", "Nice! Good luck!", "Jeff Fatsweighty", "The Israeli's and the Swiss require military service. The US should require two years of wait staff service. The richer your family is, the worse position you get. \n\nImagine how attitudes may change, if the Walton family kids had to work at fucking Applebee's for a few years, and converse with real human beings.", "Keep buying those lotto tickets ;)", "The look on your face when you move to literally any other country, get paid similarly, and there is literally zero tips.", "There are better places but it's very difficult to legally immigrate to them--marrying a local is usually the easiest way to become a permanent resident (and probably the only way if you don't have skills that are in demand).\n\nPersonally, I'd consider moving to New Zealand, Canada, Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden or the Netherlands if the opportunity ever came up. I'd be willing to live for a couple of years in Japan but not permanently.\n\nIf your only experience is pizza delivery, your best bet would be to find some place within the country to move to. A change of scenery can make a huge difference.", "I truly hope fast food workers didn't think they were heroes. The nurses dont even deserve that status let alone drive thru kids", "What a shit take lol", "What are you on about?", "I mean I'm 24 and agree", "I'd love to move to seven years ago. I'm even okay with five!", ">Someone busted their butt in school and work and have finally got to a point where they're making a good living and are considered \"the 1%\" because they make 2-300K a year.\n\nThe lower limit of the 1% of incomes is twice what you seem to think it is.", "It's a very accurate and poignant take.", "The problem is so many kids are entitled and want a good paying job with growth potential right out the gate. It doesn't fucking work like that. You don't have the skills or experience for those jobs, and you don't want to work the positions that get you there. No one starts at the top, it doesn't fucking work like that. You are not going to become manager, or senior whatever right off the bat. You need to put in the work doing that shit job to make yourself attractive and skilled enough to be considered for that better paying position. \n\n\nI think everyone on the planet should work at least one shitty job they hate just to better respect all future jobs they get from that point on. Otherwise you have no reference point for what a bad job is, which pushes that bar up more unfairly, plus the entitlement thinking that your 17 year old self has the skills and experience to be considered over the other 2 dozen applicants with degrees and years of relevant experience.", "Thats the way to look at investments like that. It could always go higher, and it can always crash. Just gotta sell when its right for you.", "Well… yeah. \n\nThings are backwards as fuck in the restaurant industry. \n\nThe people who are producing the actual product work the hardest and get paid the least. \n\nCooks who went to school to become great chefs earn less than the attractive waitress that never finished highschool. \n\nTips should go the chefs, not the person carrying the food.\n\nWant to lower your bottom line? Get rid of servers and let me pick up my meal at a window and carry it to my own damn table.", "I feel like I can be friends with this guy. \n\n\nSide note: I am thankful everyday that I was able to get out of the service industry. (yes, I am bragging.)", "Happy to work. Want to be paid my value. Have a magma cum laude master’s that pays zero.", "And that means they don't deserve a living wage?", "The large majority of service members get electric power and a roof to sleep under.", "Yeah, people were making profit off of those retired folks as well. Why would anyone employ anyone if not to make profit off them? That's kind of what makes our economy run. We'd all be subsistence farmers if no one dared to make a fucking profit off of someone else's work. Not a single first world country in existence today has an economy that doesn't allow businesses to profit off their employees.", "But those countries probably also have an entirely different social system, education system, tax system and logistical system for trade/shipping/goods. \n\nI totally agree that it's possible to change and improve, but plugging in one example is not an easy solution because the rest of the pieces won't fit.\n\nAmerica is big, divided and stubborn. Imagine a melting pot where every single person believes they're the main ingredient. Then try to apply their solution to everyone else. It just isn't that easy.", "As others have suggested, look to up skill. Most blue states have training programs available for little or no money. They will then help you find a new job using those skills. Sometimes the help is pretty piss poor but at least people trying to help you make your life better.\n\nIf you want to brainstorm, feel free to PM me", "Only on reddit lmao. Literally millions of jobs, many paying well with benefits with no more qualifications needed than an associate's(dont even need that for the COUNTLESS trade job openings). Yall act like if you're not driving a new BMW and vacationing on the Amalfi coast every year then you're being treated unfairly and it's a clueless, ignorant, and exhausting characteristic of you unemployed, self entitled, reddit incels", "Even though I couldn't get Jimmy Johns today for lunch due to a shortage of workers, i'm loving the self-realization/revolution that's happening across this country. Insane it took a pandemic/shut down for workers to wake up, but maybe it's a bright silver lining that comes out of this.", "Find a job where you’re being paid to grow your skill set. Someone with 10 years experience doing a repetitive service job can’t command much more income than someone with 6 months experience. Get paid to learn.\n\nThen Reduce expenses, rent a small room in a house and spend your spare time and cash increasing your skill set and changing careers. \n\nI rented a tiny 8x9 room in a small house and had a 30 minute commute to work. Studied and learned amazon e-commerce on nights and weekends. More than doubled my income in 2 yrs", "Why not?", "The Darknet Diaries podcast has an episode about the Mt Gox thefts! Incredibly interesting podcast if you're into cyber security and related topics.", "I’d be willing to bet you’re more likely to keep showing up to a shitty abusive work environment.", "I generally think the mistreatment of service workers and pay that is so ridiculously out of touch with living costs, to the extend that it exist in america, is a uniquely American problem.\n\nOther countries aren't perfect but far less worse than america so jumping over to the EU or just going up to canada is a pretty general improvement, not just on respect towards service workers or worker pay.", "This also perpetuates the myth that the wealthy are wealthy only because they worked so hard.", "there was a tipping bot a long time ago on reddit and I'm pretty sure it used bitcoin. I remember I got tipped on my other account? Maybe this one? I dunno, I only just remember that a year or so ago but I can't really find anything about it anymore. I'm guessing that bot owner just decided to sweep everything to their account? Is that possible? no idea.", "I'll only be on your couch for a few weeks to years max! I promise!", "What are you a manager or something? Hire the next 17 year old then, OH WAIT THERE ARENT ANY RIGHT NOW LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE TO PAY MORE!", "Technology industry. Became a software engineer. One of the toughest transitions I’ve ever done. \n\n\nIt was a hell of a struggle but I got there eventually.", "Is he the same dude that did a parody video in his boat sinking during the trump flotilla?", "True. My point wasn't placing blame on one person or entity. It's a much larger problem. That being said, there are a lot of unskilled people out there who have expectations of what job they should have VS what job they can get.", "I think the margins should be forcefully brought down and distributed amongst the workers. But that is communist of me.", "This and that fact that until it becomes a stable asset, it'll never work for currency. You can't live with walking out the front door to go buy a pizza, get to the store, and find bitcoin has dropped 50% in 30 mins and your pizza cost double of what it was now.", "Gotta love that.\n\n“That racist or sexist thing just I said? That’s not who I am.”", "That's what I just recommended. \n\n\nMy point is, no money = no healthcare = death during a pandemic. So you either make money and live or you stay poor and die. That's what is wrong with America. \n\n\nSo get a better career through attainable education, its easier done than it sounds and can be done at your own pace education wise. We need universal basic income right now for anyone making under 50k. Inflation and housing prices are killing the lower/middle class silently.", "I just moved to Prague to get away from the month to month grind. So far it’s been a bitch dealing with getting my visa and everything in between but it’s been worth just being off the ride. Something about it makes me feel so free.", "Guys I’m sorry this is so embarrassing. I’ve been telling my mom that just because shes being forced to wear a mask that not plucking her chin hairs doesn’t do anything as a statement against it. Now this stupid video of hers has gone viral.", "What do you think is more likely to fix the tipping disaster? Companies just coming around to paying people properly out of good will or people getting fed up with the complicated biased system and workers finally realizing they can't consistently get good enough tips to make these kinds of jobs sustainable? This movement starts on the consumer end not on the corporate side. \"conscious\" businesses that pay better and have no tipping and adjusted prices will start popping up only when the social and economic climate is ripe.", "Let me earn reddit points with the family guy Lois meme:\n\nCapitalism\n\nis bad.\n\nI just solved unemployment.", "> 7. Lots of people lost their homes during the pandemic, despite rent memorandums and such, and obviously it's difficult to get and hold a job while homeless, so all those people aren't working anymore.\n\nAddition to this is that home prices are absolutely fucking skyrocketing AND rent costs are going through the roof because of companies like Zillow buying properties on speculation and because short term rent is being artificially inflated.", "2. I agree. Aside from the physical toll, I think the way unions are structured make the trades an undesirable place to go. If you look at dock workers as an example, union members are rewarded based on time rather than skill. That causes a bunch of guys that aren't very good at their jobs that get into some type of management role they don't deserve, and create a horrible experience for the new workforce coming in. (not sure how they change this though)\n\n3 + your final point: I completely agree. I'm not trying to blame \"the bottom class\", but what this guy is doing is trying to give an argument while also making fun of particular classes of people. For me, the delivery of what he's trying to say gets lost, especially with the last bit of poking at the anti vax and boomer crowd. \n\nThese problems were caused by both parties, media, tech influence, even the rise in \"YOU NEED TO GO TO COLLEGE TO BE SOMETHING\". It's caused a generation of people to all go after a limited amount of positions. \n\nThanks for replying with an actual comment about what I wrote instead of calling me an idiot. We need more convos like this.", "New Zealand is doing great last I heard.", "We only really meant it panderingly... he's right on, there.", "> Add onto all this the fact that people now CAN get better jobs instead of being forced to work minimum wage, and suddenly nobody can be found to do those. \n\nThere was a sign in a local store here that said \"Now hiring: Starting at $14/hour.\" Then it went to $14.50. Then $15. Then $15.50 etc. I think it got up to around $18 or so before they hired someone. \n\nWhere I work we have a different problem. A lot of the people were nearing retirement. A lot of them had pretty much maxed their pensions out years ago (yeah, one of those rare places that used to have a pension) and they just hopped to lower stress places. \n\nThe company is reacting to it, albeit slowly. Companies at first really wanted to wait it all out but they just added paid maternity/paternity leave (which let's be honest really only has to be paid out rarely) so I have hope that things are getting better.", "The simple fact that everything other than minimum wage is inflating (sorta close to) proportionately tells you a lot about priority here in the US.", "Maybe you'll forfeit tips, but you'll probably have access to free healthcare and less likelihood of being shot. Swings and roundabouts.", "Yea there is . Europe, Germany, Netherlands, so many better places! Even Israel and Italy to some extent. USA is just like a popular hot girl in school. Everyone wanna smash but a long term commitment is a bad idea", "\"you need to stop finding better paying jobs and come back to where I eat!\"", "That cracked me up.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nAlso: How are you doing?\n\nHim: Dr. Pepper.", "I personally think working as a waiter is a good for young adults.\n\nIt teaches them what a tip means, it teaches them the person taking your order is a person, they might be busy as fuck waiting on your stupid ass to order, etc etc.\n\nIf I was a really rich and I had a teenage son. I would make him work as a bus boy thru out highschool.\n\nJust so he can understand/learn to be humble.", "I work in Cannabis Retail and served a couple the other day who repeatedly took their masks down to talk to me (we have a provincial wide mask mandate), got WAY too close when talking, and then paid with cash. The dude then told me he's purchasing edibles because he can't smoke right now because he has \"the flu\".\n\nI'm immunocompromised and nearly quit on the spot.\n\nThis shit ain't worth minimum wage, I'll tell you that.", ">confusement\n\nconfusement intensifies", "At first I thought it was going to be some right-wing redneck bitching about people not wanting to work. Well, it was, kinda-sorta, but hyper satire mode was engaged.\n\nI lol'ed.", "In the US some health workers made way over 100k$ during the pandemic. \n\nIn Europe here they got some nice attention from the politicians and some small increases in salary here and there but thats about it. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nThe absurd amount of money in the healthcare system in the US also has its upsides sometimes I guess.", "It doesn't take a luxury car-owning, international vacationing, employed individual to see that your view of the value of work is not in line with the average worker in the US. I just happen to drive and Audi and leave for Spain next week, so I guess BMW and Amalfi weren't that far off. \n\nBut here's the thing, you can be as mad as you want about people demanding better working conditions. But the workers have all the power.", "Look into penetration testing. Tens of thousands of relatively well paying jobs out there with a low barrier for entry. Some 1-2 week bootcamps you can take.\n\nYou need to specialize in something to have a better life. Fast food won't help your resume after 1 year of doing it.", "the fear of dying homeless and riddled with disease and rotten teeth outweighs the unpleasantness of working a soulless job.", "I had a total of 30 bitcoins in 2012 when they were like $10 each. If only I had held onto them instead of buying dilaudid off the Silk Road. Oh well. At least the dilaudid was nice at the time.", "Yeah, I remember when I started as a co-op position about 3 years back, they had told me that 50% of the programming department would be eligible for retirement in five years. Obviously many of the people would continue on, but the fact was most of them could if they wanted to. Well, in comes COVID and suddenly that aging depart has many more people retiring then they had expected, even though they knew it could happen. On the plus side, now us millennials can finally get some good jobs.", "If restaurants paid their servers $15 an hour, they'd raise prices on food, the servers would quit because they make more than that on a tipping system, so you'd have more expensive food and worse service.", "I'll add on to this:\n\nBack at the start of the pandemic, I knew I'd be finishing my degree in 2021 and had a job lined up (i'd been working for the company for years), so I started looking at places in that part of town. I had budgeted that it would be around $1200-1300. When I finally did graduate and went to actually get a lease, every place I'd looked at had increased their prices to between $1450-1550. In one year.", "“How are you doing?” \n\n“Dr. Pepper. No ice”", "Ok", "Don't worry about it. :) Have a great day!", "There is some element of that. But the bigger issue is that it used to be you could get work in a job somewhere at the bottom (and still make ok money), then move up and get paid better. In the past few decades people have been stuck in lower paying jobs -- food, service and retail say, and not go anywhere.\n\nI grew up with many neighbors that worked assembly line or other manufacturing jobs -- they all had families, multiple cares, often boats/rv/etc., often vacation homes. Oh, and they all had decent benefits like vacation, pensions and health insurance.\n\nMy dad was a skilled trades person and made a decent living. We took vacations in the US and europe when I grew up.", "it just really illustrates how the sort of folks complaining about this shit don't actually care about anything besides their own conveniences. it's a completely self-centered mindset that has nothing to do with the health of the economy or the country, or the well-being of others lol. \n\nnext time my mom starts going off on the same sort of complaints, I'm just going to start responding to her questions with \"Dr. Pepper, no ice.\" and see if she starts to get frustrated/understand why people don't want to work these jobs where they just get disrespected all day by asshole customers. she probably won't, but it will be funny regardless.", "Reminds me a bit of the Hyper inflation after WW1 \nWhen they were too slow after getting their money,the bread costed 300000000 Million instead of 150000000", "It DoEsNt WoRk LiKe ThAt DoNt GeT gOoD pAyInG JoBs Be SlAvEs UnDeR mE", "I think it'll become like the grocery stores nowadays. Like a mix of self checkout and old school registers. I think we'll see it in causal fine dining places little by little as well. \n\nAt least in America, they fucking love their stupid server traditions - so it's not going away completely any time soon. Personally, I prefer it in other countries where it's a regular job and not some fucked up audition to see if you earn 20% of the check.", "> if you play your cards right you will never see real hunger again with the amount you earned\n\nNot to downplay the situation you're in, sounds like you're in a touch spot right now, but saying I can never go hungry again by using 30k wisely is a stretch for sure", "Because you'll ingest far more saliva that way", "Edited it again. Figured I'd give you an actual reply, lol.", "Holy shit the derangement is hilarious haha", "I worked in retail for 8 years and it was true hell, from terrible customers, to unprofessional supervisors, unreliable co-workers, never enough hours, 15-minute lunch breaks, sporadic raises (if any), no bonuses, terrible health insurance. To this day I have nightmares of clocking in 5 minutes late and having to find my supervisor to let me clock-in.", "Ok. That is the extent of the information for your comment then. Thanks!", "I made a comment earlier tonight that I guess was heard by the waitress that I am deeply ashamed of. If I have hurt anyone out there, I can't tell you how much I say from the bottom of my heart I'm so very, very sorry. I pride myself and think of myself as a man of faith, as there's a drive into deep left field by Castellanos and that'll be a home run. And so that'll make it a 4-0 ballgame. I don't know if I'm going to be seated at Cracker Barrel again.", "I find it to be sad, honestly. It was funny when it first started, but now it's just sad.", "I remember my city would honk horns for 10-20 minutes every day at 7pm. It was annoying as fuck", "Damn that read was rough, well written though. I am disappointed at all the opportunities he squandered and the stubbornness but also understand his hopes I guess. But yeah... Hope he makes better decisions from now on", "Loved the last line, perfect", "I honestly feel kind of bad anytime I go to a restaurant, so I do it as seldom as possible.", "No offense man, I'm talking about you. You make a good point about the crazy qanon people, but don't go so deep to the other side. A lot of the points you made are grossly exaggerated.", "What school taught you the word \"confusement\"?", "The ultra rich don't get ultra rich by having any modicum of empathy. They would hate every minute of it and once their tour was over, they would go back to their yachts and mansions and continue to not give a fuck about real humans. They are a separate species at this point.", "Thats one of the things where the US is really fucked up in my eyes. \nWhy not pay those people fair ? \nHere in Germany you get at least minimum Wage which is 9,60€ and that goes up to 10,45€ in the second half of 2022 and in good places you already get more + Tips (not as frequent and big like in the US but just because its not needed)", "The apartment building adjacent to mine has a nice dog park so I take my puppy over to socialize in the afternoons. The residents there are having their rents raised by $400+ at renewal and they are forming a class action suit based on some sort of city code about rent raising. The place is already like $1900 for a 1 bedroom, 1 bathroom, 975 sqft apartment.", "Dude kept my spirits up the entire pandemic from the crayola virus", "I worked trash pickup for the summer too during college. Not a bad job, ride on the platform when the trucks going faster than the safety sign say and throw bags in the back lol. Trash day was easy. RECYCLING day was aweful, people are nasty. If it rained the day before everything soaking wet and sticky. Then the BEES!\n\nPretty sure the full timers I worked with probably didn't have the best salary, but benefits were good. I don't think I would want to work that job for life though, I never had to work in winter.", "There are when you're an edgelord", "But then we have to collectively agree that these jobs are pointless and shouldn't exist. We can't have the benefits of delivery drivers and other low wage industries and not pay them enough to live accordingly.", "If you dont want ro tip, you should demand that bars and restaurants increase prices by at least 20%. I'm guessing you don't want ro pay any extra there either, cheapass.", "Based-\n\nr/antiwork", "Because otherwise you're knowingly exploiting others.", "Indeed he is", "In lieu of money...we're giving everyone a pizza party!\n\nAlso, Friday is Jeans Day! So, if you want, you can wear jeans (with Supervisor approval, of course)\n\nAnd, FYI, due to being short-staffed all PTO and vacations requests from October until the end of January are denied. Also mandatory overtime Saturday and Sunday. \n\nNOW GET BACK TO WORK!!!!", "I learned the trick is to do sometimes more but remind them that you need your time off too. I work sometimes late too, but just because some old lady or young family would sit in the cold otherwise (and when i dont have something important to do after work)", "Please share this to r/antiwork they will love for it. I already love you for it.", "No one really stays in New Zealand pnce they realize it is all smoke and mirrors", "Everyone in the world is in a collective state of that \"This is fine\" dog in the burning building.", "Absolute travesty imo. Norway is very nice, and offer a lot of help to its citizens. The citizens really need to put in effort to be homeless, etc.\n\n...Keyword being citizen though. If you're an immigrant you get a d-number instead of a PIN, during which you're entitled to virtually none of the benefits.\n\nI still give you a good chance of it being a better experience to be living in Norway without benefits than in America under a variety of circumstances, but it's... much more unclear what things cost with a d-number. You're not entitled to free healthcare, but god knows what the actual, true cost of healthcare is in Norway. We spend less than the US, but that... doesn't say much. So... I'm guessing, yeah.", "Trade jobs aren't easy to get, are you kidding? You can't just walk into being a plumber. It takes years of training and apprenticeships, during which you're poor and trusted poorly. Not to mention that tradepeople often fuck up their backs and bodies, so they're basically fucked once they turn 65.", "[He is the same dude.](https://youtu.be/ayCLE_ctpYg)", "All the power until those jobs available now disappear, forever because companies will go under or be forced to adapt. And when all the unemployment people are collecting runs out (it will, we're about to default on the national debt) they wont have any jobs left to save them, but by all means advocate for the bleeding dry of the system. It's not like the values and rights that the USA guarantees are important or anything", "Clicked it. First post I see is someone that wants to move from the US to Norway. A country with incredibly strict immigration requirements and an unbelievably high cost of living. The delusion in that sub like the rest of the world is some type of utopia that will let anyone in is off the charts.", "I want to get off MR BONES WILD RIDE.", "I don’t want to work. Haven’t for near twenty years.\n\nBut here’s the thing. If I don’t work, I can’t afford my home, my utilities, my food, my hobbies, my wife would be pissed at me and you know what, no one is going to give me any money to just sit on my ass and not work.\n\nAnd while my job can suck, I make too good of money to quit and go find an easy, relaxing job that only requires me to work 40 hours a week. \n\nHere’s another thing, why do I make really good money? Because I worked my fonking ass off to learn the skills needed and gain the knowledge needed AND put in my time to gain the experience needed… to make really good money.\n\nI get people hate working food service or delivery jobs. Go fonking learn how to do higher paying jobs. \n\nIf you just quit, that’s all on you. And no one should give you a dime because you chose to quit.", "Clearly you did not read at all. If a company hires someone with zero relevant experience and skills over someone who has a decade of experience and the exact skill set needed, yes that is a problem. The fact that someone with zero experience would even be considered, and not have their app immediately discarded over someone with a decade experience is a huge problem.", "> 2. Apprenticeships in the trades are desperate to get young people in. You can make a great living, but you won't be Steve Jobs rich. Unfortunately, the youth have been sold a bag of goods that tells them that they need to work at Google or Amazon, or develop their first startup at 16, otherwise they're destined to be failures. \n>\n\nTrades pay like shit for the first few years, and they fuck up your body. Old plumbers and carpenters deal with constant pain, and you can't just switch to a desk job when you get older. Youre stuck doing that trade until you retire/die", "Solid review i didn't need as i also watched the video before comments.", "None I suck typing on my phone.", "I thinking dining out at a restaurant and not tipping hurts the server way more than the restaurant/owner.", "No we don't. Service jobs are at the bottom of the social and economic ladder, sure, but they're hardly pointless. The only thing worth noting is the salary and that's a workers rights issue.", "Yeah this was not full trash by any means. Was just emptying trash and taking to compactor at a restaurant at sea world. \n\nStill was not nearly as bad as many would think. Outside and get to walk around. \n\nI agree never want to do it full time but for 8 weeks was not bad.", "That part about the Dr. Pepper is spot on. All while having a bad attitude, then telling me I need to smile.", "> we're about to default on the national debt\n\nNot if wealth is taxed appropriately. \n\n> they won't have any jobs left to save them\n\nthis is a baseless statement\n\n> values and rights that the USA guarantees are important or anything\n\nValues and rights that have never been distributed to anyone but the capital class", "> service/retail employees shouldn't also double as security officers for minimum wage\n\nI agree, but then places like In n Out burger decide not to put their employees at risk by making them check vaccine cards at the door, and what happens? they get shut down :/", "Huh, weird...All of those things are, you know, factual events that actually happened or are still happening presently.\n\nSometimes, the truth hurts. Take it slow. Breathe.\n\nEdit: also, he says \"No offense man\" after saying, and I quote:\n\n>Holy shit the derangement is hilarious haha\n\nSo...perhaps this fella is just projecting his own derangement...Tough. Ya hate to see it.", "I worked for a pharmaceutical company that made injectable medicine.\n\nWhen covid hit, another competitor got an FDA warning letter and was unable to produce so they ramped up our production to \"steal\" their business. (Pure coincidence, but terrible timing)\n\nThis resulted in moving from 4x10's to alternating 3x12's and 4x12's. A total increase in worked hours, with NO INCREASE in PTO, Sick Time, etc.\n\nA ton of the office staff was moved to WFH, and we had an HR lady even come in and try and tell us how we were heroes for risking our lives for showing up to work. Then she started to talk about how WFH was super hard because her cat would jump on her keyboard over and over.\n\nHad a coworker come down with covid, and admit to me that she was \"still having headaches, and lied about still having symptoms because she needed to \"get back to work\"\". Told my HR about it, in which they told me \"well the FDA guidelines are just guidelines, we don't need to follow them\". Then told me I might be \"happier\" working somewhere else.", "Better than the US? Yes. Many countries ate much better ate some things, including how workers ate treated.\n\nIt's very difficult to emigrate for most people, though (including my wife and I).", "\"NO I'M NOT VACCINATED!\n\nI WON'T WEAR A MASK!\n\nAND I GOT A BAD ATTITUDE!\n\nBUT AT LEAST I DON'T TIP WELL!!\"\n\nThis is America.", "You have to recognize that being a moron does not mean it's something everyone can do. There are any number of factors, including blind luck, which can prevent people 1000x more capable than you from achieving the same.", "The last part ! Yup that sounds like the USA to me as a German. \nI know 2-3 People that came from the US to Germany and living here now for a couple of years and want the german passport and they are all grateful to be here. Only thing they still dont get in their head that we are not that fake friendly with always smiling, nonsense small talk and all that bla", "Care to elaborate? Most cybersec channels are recommending putting in somewhere like 2 years for positions.", "Why not? Why does every paying task that exists on earth require a \"living wage\"? Do I need to pay my babysitter that same wage? How about the kid that mows my lawn?", "A lot of people should feel really stupid after watching this video, but they wont.", "\"Check that might not come\". Unless you're such a loser you don't even have a bank account, it gets electronically transferred into your account immediately.", "Become wealthy? No. You should, however, be able to afford the basic needs to live, without government aide.", "Alright mister pink you’ve solved the problem", "You and your political party are literally everything that is wrong with America", "Bullshit.\n\nMany countries pay far more for normal restaurant server work, and some extent that to delivery drivers. It's true tips aren't a thing, but the employers pay you something resembling an actual living wage.", "I don’t think you can cook a cup o noodles", "Dey terk urh jerbs!", "Shit take lol", "A week or 2 back, there was a thread where someone said it was impossible to become wealthy just by working and saving normally.\n\nSomeone chimes in and lays out this plan where you get a job making 6 figures at 20, still live at home with mom and dad for something like 20+ years paying for nothing, have no other expenses in life (need a car? get hurt? want to go on a date? have kids? heck, ever want to go out to dinner once, ever?), investing everything you make, and doing that, by the age of 65, you could be rich.\n\nNowhere in that did they realize the ridiculous life they just laid out for this hypothetical person to live in order to get rich, since the numbers could add up, it was possible, so everyone should shut up about it.", "Tips should be done away with entirely and restaurants should actually pay their employees a living wage. The price on the menu should be enough that employees get their full share.", "Yea, it's time to rip that bandaid off and tell people they're not the main ingredient.", "1. Nobody is asking to erase all the gains of doing well. Asking people to pay their rightful share is not erasing the incentive to become rich. \n2. Nobody who became rich are rich just because they worked hard. You gotta put in the hours, but if the hours was all it took the working poor would all own multiple mansions.\n3. No, costs of food does not actually appreciably increase from increasing the wages. Claims to the contrary are simply not consistent with reality.", "the bludgeon brothers shirt", "> America is big, divided and stubborn.\n\n...As opposed to Europe, or...?", "Omg...\n\nWe just had too many maga flags on the boat...never thought I'd say that.\n\nI love that boat...it was my personality.\n\nLMAOOOO", "New stimulus. Grandpa Joe's tippy bux! Money that can only be used as a tip to service workers. You can't buy drugs, dildos, or any of that crap. Only tipperoooooooos", "You are a kid though, so i’m not sure why you’re using that word. I’ve never worked drive through, but I know they work a lot harder than you do.", "But, but then people would have to gulp get up and walk. Think of all the overweight adults who have to ride scooters because they can't carry their own weight! \n\n( /s just in case)", "Norway does consistently rank as one of the happiest countries in the world, though. While we can't 100% replicate their way of life here in the US, but we need to stop using American Exceptionalism as an excuse NOT to learn from other countries.", "Did you read the post? They literally say they want to move there to avoid cities and have long winters.\n\nAlso the sub is there to give advice on how to move so whilst they might have strict immigration requirements it's a sub to get advise on those requirements.", "What's the point in expecting people to go work a job that they can't make a living from? \n\nAnd when the cost of furthering education is so mental, how do we expect those without an education to be able to afford it?", ">The 28 year old working at McDonald’s as a cashier who does nothing but complain about billionaire’s greed while they spend their paycheck at the bar and the drug dealer is beyond redemption.\n\nThe fact that you think a McDonald's cashier can afford to drink at a bar tells me everything I need to know about you.", "Considering there are no other occupations than pizza delivery... Honduras or Guatemala.", "It’s not my job to stand up for every service worker in the country. It is THEIR job to unionize and so far it seems they want to bitch about their wages but continue accepting tips as the standard method of payment.", "Imagine that, a company couldn't find people, so they slowly kept offering more until they found what they were looking for. Now if only the rest of the companies whining that they can't find people did the same, they'd have people.", "As a fast food employee, it really be like this. Can't count the amount of times I'll be doing something that I won't be able to take an order for (running out an order, filling ice containers, changing soda boxes, whatever) and I'll say \"Hi, I'll be with you in just a moment\" and the person on the other side will start to rattle off their entire order. It's gotten to a point where I'll let them finish then come back with \"All right, sorry about that wait, what can I get for you?\" because no matter what I say they're gonna be pissed. At this point, at least hopefully I can get them to realize they weren't listening, but probably not still.\n\nSide fun: The way people order is hilariously awful sometimes, and I've been joking about how people place their orders. If someone wants 2 cheeseburgers, they'll order a meal by number then say \"just the sandwich.\" At this point, I'm waiting for someone to come through, order a #7 large size with a Coke no Ice, but no fries or sandwiches.", "\"I may be on dry land, but I'm still going down with the ship.\"", "I mean, with the \"don't eat there\" mindest, the income of both the employer and employee are affected as an end result. The employer still has to pay the server actual minimum wage regardless, but they're likely to close up shop if they don't have revenue to support it. With the end result being the employee has to find another job. \n\nSo I'm not sure it really ends up hurting the server more than eating there and not tipping. The end result is the same, only if there are still customers who don't tip, the server has more control over when they start looking for another job.", "You can do a CEH bootcamp in 2 weeks that will get you into entry level positions, and then work your way up from there", "Well nobody waltz in a country and demand citizenship. But you can go to a country on a work visa, working holiday visa, then you have a foot in the country, and if things work out. Get to stay.", "I had about 9,000 bitcoin left in a wallet in an old computer. Bought bitcoin for $10 total to buy some mp3's from a russian site. I never heard of bitcoin at the time but it was the only way to pay them. I think one mp3 song was like $1 or 1,000 bitcoins or so.\n\nThat computer drive is in some dump someplace. Long gone.\n\nI don't feel bad because had I been paying attention and kept the wallet I would definitely sold all the bitcoin as soon as I saw them worth $5 or $10 each. No way I would have rode it out till it hit 60k. I paid $10 for my bitcoin, and you want to give me $45k for all 9,000 of them - fuck yeah!", "I had about 9,000 bitcoin left in a wallet in an old computer. Bought bitcoin for $10 total to buy some mp3's from a russian site. I never heard of bitcoin at the time but it was the only way to pay them. I think one mp3 song was like $1 or 1,000 bitcoins or so.\n\nThat computer drive is in some dump someplace. Long gone.\n\nI don't feel bad because had I been paying attention and kept the wallet I would definitely sold all the bitcoin as soon as I saw them worth $5 or $10 each. No way I would have rode it out till it hit 60k. I paid $10 for my bitcoin, and you want to give me $45k for all 9,000 of them - fuck yeah!", "I'm sad that isn't a Helloween subreddit.", "Learning? In my United States? GTFO of here.", "I wouldn't contemplate moving to New Zealand, especially if you aren't bringing a lot of money or have the skills required for a high paying job.\nOne of the highest house price to average income ratios, high rent, high food prices, etc.", "And expensive.", "Durka dur", "Land is probably cheap in Siberia.", "People like you are the reason things like Tragedy of the Commons exist. People like you are why we can't have nice things. In short, youre a fucking twat. You deserve every misfortune thst befalls you.", "> including blind luck, which can prevent people 1000x more capable than you from achieving the same.\n\nYup. Example I like to give people is I knew a person who was struggling to break into a job at IT. \n\nThey had about 3 years experience compared to my 14. They had an associates compared to my Bachelors. No certificates. \n\nI helped them shape up their resume and study for the test they'd have to take for a position I told them to go ahead and apply for, despite me also applying for it.\n\nI never got an interview.\n\nThey got the job.\n\n\nJob market is just a numbers game unless you're REALLY in demand.", "Yeah, these people seem like they're requesting advice. \n\nThey aren't just showing up at the airport and asking where to buy a home in Norway.", "sounds like you're a hard worker. You're in the right country. but maybe the wrong geography. learn a trade if you're physically able to. It's tuff work but you will do well over time. good luck man.", "How great a place it is depends on your finances and lifestyle you desire.", "This is easily a South Park episode.", "> What do you think is more likely to fix the tipping disaster?\n\nRegulation, which requires high level political action. Not tipping your servers, etc, in the US where their income is dependent on the tips is not \"fixing,\" you're just being a twat.", "A pizza deliverer makes 35k American per year in Norway and 32k in Sweden. I guarantee that a typical driver in America makes more than that when tips are considered.", "Wow. I can’t believe you forgot the extra ice. I expect for the mean to be comped.", "If a literal kid mows your lawn, then you pay per task. No one pays a living wage to someone who only performs a single task for your home. That's an insane comparison. \n\nBut if you employ people to mow lawns, that's your business, then yeah, you should pay your employees a living wage unless you want them to quit.", ">Why does every paying task that exists on earth require a \"living wage\"?\n\nBecause everyone needs money to live. If you don't think fast food workers deserve a living wage, who is making up the difference? Either they live in extreme poverty, in debt, with poor nutrition, poor mental health, and perpetuate these negative effects throughout society - or you're expecting the government to step in and subsidize their wages, effectively giving the employer a break at the expense of taxpayers.\n\nAs for your specific examples, no one expects you to pay a teenage babysitter or a child mowing your lawn $20 an hour because they (usually) don't need that money to live. If someone is an adult and working full time, they should have enough money to live comfortably, period.", "You’re a real piece of shit.", ">However, none of the people working in the store got more money. So they’ve been quitting like crazy. And demand for our food has continued to rise. It gets busier every week.\n\noh yeah i remember that. i delivered pizzas for a few years. every couple months they would ask me if i would manage the store.\n\n\"hey do you want to manage the store?\"\n\n\"does it still pay less than what i make delivering, along with waaay more responsibility?\"\n\n\"sure does!\"\n\n\"no thanks!\"", "This is just nonsense...\n\nCovid has killed 0.2% of the population in the US and the best studies I can find say that Long Covid affected less than 0.1%.\n\nSo many of your bullet points really don't mean much.\n\nIn fact, I'd wager if you addded up all 14 bullet points you'd be talking about maybe 1% of the total population.\n\nSo much for \"Lots of people\"...", "I dont associate with a party but I do recognize which one of the two main presents a bigger threat to America and it's values.", "I'm saying (as a former server trying to make it night to night on tips) - that not tipping hurts the server short term a whole lot more than the employer, and that's not a mindset I'm willing to get behind. Especially when you're at a restaurant at capacity and on a wait-list, having your valuable tables filled with non-tippers is CRUSHING.", "Can you be more specific about which dump they're in exactly?", "I was able to go out and have a drink when I made $9 an hour.", "So unless you're making a full time, \"liveable\" wage, there is no point in doing any job, even part time? Any task on earth requires full time pay with benefits?\n\nAnd you don't have to get a college degree to find a good job. There are dozens of fields that you can gain experience and get into without a degree.", "Ok", "Same in New Zealand, our nurses just got shat on again.", "Woah talk about baseless", "she was… my personality.\n\nHoly fuck lol.", "for real i think the biggest reason for the shortage is that people that were off work were able to have a minute to themselves and regroup, figure out what would be a better job and they went and got it\n\nthey having trouble finding people for only the jobs that no one wants, jobs that no one wanted before the pandemic let alone during one.", "Sort of the response I expected. Oh well. Can't help everyone.", "There will be no further discussion of upsides in America on Reddit. You have been warned.", "There it is, the fucking “just learn to code” comment.\n\nPeople working 12-14 hours minimum wage to support families and kids, keep their house clean, do general chores and shopping etc.\n\nSome even working two jobs to keep their head above water.\n\n“Just take a project management course”\n\n“Just learn to develop apps”", "i always thought that was one of the best legal scams ever invented. you take away someone's guaranteed money that is coming in later or that they get every month, and give them a lump sum. pretty brilliant and i bet they made out like bandits.", "Electrician apprentice here. I literally started school in May and I've already completed the course and am a Licensed electrician lol. Maybe things were different last you checked but it's not difficult. You don't even need to finish high school. Hell some of the guys in my program took nearly a week to understand how to convert a decimal to a percentage. It doesn't take much to get in. You live in the land of opportunity right now but you're too focused on finding a boogeyman and being a victim.", "I was listlessly browsing different countries permanent resident requirements and while many them are fairly complicated at first glance, they can be generally be boiled down to just two questions:\n\n1) Are you rich? \n2) Are you an engineer?\n\nAlso to my surprise a lot of them don't want anyone over 50 regardless of the first two answers. But really, it sort of makes sense. Old people are plentiful and can be expensive, no need to import them.", "a lot of people's \"side-hustles\" became their main hustles and they never looked back lol.", "What about Australia?", "> they think the rest of the world is begging for them to immigrate.\n\nA colonizer’s mindset.", "I searched high and low for this exact comment.", "The jobs are worthwhile.\n\nThe companies need to pay them a living wage and not rely on customers to tip. If that requires higher prices, then so be it. Eliminate tips and you can raise the price 15% with little to no actual impact. \nIn reality, they don't even need to raise prices to pay real wages - but the executives don't like that option and the shareholders agree.", "Some people I know try to convince me that everyone quit and isn't coming back just because of the stimulus checks. \nSo what is for some people probably going towards paying the bills, isn't going to have them not working months later- it's not like they're given lump sum lottery winnings each.\n\nAll this scorn over an imagined situation and getting angry at the wrong people because things are worse than they would be willing to admit- like the concept that not everyone is rich and some people are struggling is lost on them.", "I mean you can't just attempt to discredit me by saying it's baseless and then following up with multiple baseless claims. We're not going anywhere with that", "My girlfriend worked at a KFC where they fired a guy for going to jail for child porn and soliciting minors - he was recently rehired as a GM just a few years later. No idea how he's even free, let alone working at the same place he was fired at that knows he's a sexual predator, but I guess it's easier to hire pedos than pay a few dollars more an hour for better applicants.", "I mean maybe not plenty people going there to try and find mammoth tusks, also the insane wildfires might be putting them off.", "If you work 40 hours a week at job, why should you live in squalor? If your job requires you to give up 40 hours a week of your life why do you deserve to barely scrape by?\n\nNot only that, but in the 70s-80s those same hours and jobs would allow them to have a family, or a house or a car or all of the above, but now you can work 3 jobs for 60 hours and get to enjoy the only luxury of Netflix HD in your shitty apartment?\n\nThe only thing thats universal is the amount of time we have in a week. No amount of wealth can buy time back (you can certainly do alot more when you can pay other people to do all the time consuming things in your life).\n\nWhy should in a developed civilization you toil away as much or more than anyone else and not only get scraps but derided and looked down upon\n\nCustomer service sucks far harder than a lot of jobs but you are paid so little to deal with so much.\n\nI'm not saying everyone deserves lambos, I'm just saying if you have to work front service at a mcdees for a huge chunk of your hours every week, you should at least get to be comfortable.\n\nAnd before theres any \"but X works harder and they get paid crappily\"\n\nEveryone should be paid more. Not as a fancy leftist dream, but that productivity and profits have gone up, but all those boons and bonuses have been sucked to the tippity top. No trickling down.\n\nWe produce more than ever, yet all the benefits the workers of the good old days who could not produce as much as now have ceased to exist, but economically it's not that there is no money, it's that it's all being sucked up to the people who already have so much, and wouldn't be hurt by losing a little.", "Reddit gets very angry about tips but as a bartender, please don't take them away. I realize your normal Bob Evans server might not make bank but I do pretty well for an \"entry level\" job.", "You forgot the part where you mention that you have a wife, a sister, and 2 daughters so you could never disrespect a woman like that.", "I think the worker shortage is being overhyped. Millions of people aren't deciding they don't want to work anymore. They're deciding they all want to work somewhere else... all at the same time.\n\nThis is more of a musical chairs situation where the least informed and least fluid organizations flounder wondering why they can't replace lost manpower.\n\nHere in WA our ferries have been fucked by lack of manpower and it's pretty simple: shit schedule and shit pay that only turns onto a good career if you can stick it out for several years. You can offset the shit schedule with good pay. Being a government agency, fixing pay will take forever. Qualified deck hands will take their labor somewhere else willing to get with the times.\n\nThis is a double-edged sword. This is supposed to happen in a free market regularly, it hasn't and we're overdue. The problem is that every critical part of our economy is dealing with this at once.", "> We're not going anywhere\n\nTruest statement yet", "Kinda missing the point tho innit. Why are the people working? What are their long-term goals, etc?\n\nRight now, for a terrifying amount of Americans, that is \"to stay alive\" because that's just about all they can afford, and for many Americans even that's not really working as they're sliding backward into deeper debt.", "That’s the plot of lillyhammer, I watched a few episodes, eh", "If you're an adult who's living on their own, yes you will generally be looking for a full time job. \n\nAlso please notice I didn't say college degree in place of education for a specific reason. Even trade schools can be expensive. If you need certification for something, that's gonna cost you money you probably do not have.", "I mean I love America and I’d still love to move to Norway. But they have incredibly high immigration requirements for a reason. They have a strong social safety net and benefits, so they need to ensure people coming in won’t be taking resources.", "How long ago was that? The buying power of the dollar has drastically decreased within the last 20 years. And average rent costs have gone up by 36% within the last 10 years.", "It's near impossible now to immigrate to anywhere anyone else would want to live even if you are highly skilled.", "Literally picking their favorite picture that's amaaaazing", "Hmm well I’m in a union and don’t have to rely on tips. Maybe someday that karma will get me, but I doubt it.\n \nAnd btw, maybe I am doing more than people who tip. Those who tip just seem to be enabling the owners of restaurants to pay shitty, maybe one day when service workers realize their actual worth they won’t just bend over for peanuts anymore.\n \nAnd one last edit: I’ve made my sacrifice. I’ve gone without wages while fighting for a good contract. I’ve wondered how I’m going to pay rent while fighting for what is fair, so don’t come at me with your “Tragedy of the commons” bullshit. I can’t stand with every single organizer, eventually something has to give where the people being exploited actually do something about it.", "A hero is someone that does something outside of what they would normally do. Like run into a burning building to save someone or dive into the water to save someone from drowning. Doing your job doesn’t make you a hero. This includes being a police officer, fireman or service member. You’re taking a salary and reaping the benefits of that job. You’re not doing it out of the goodness or your heart for free.", "\\#2. Nah, this was because Texas Unions are essentially glorified job boards due to the state limiting what they can do, and being unwilling to enforce labor laws around migrants. 12 hours/day and 6 days a week is something unions specifically fought against, and I was baffled when that is what they were saying she needed to do.\n\n>especially with the last bit of poking at the anti vax and boomer crowd.\n\nWell what ideology are anti-vaxx and boomers predominately associated with? Conservatism. Who is saying that workers are lazy...conservatives. Sure it is a generalization, but it is more correct than incorrect. \n\n>Thanks for replying with an actual comment about what I wrote instead of calling me an idiot. We need more convos like this.\n\nI didn't upvote, but I didn't downvote either :) Ehh I upvote just because you were nice.", "I mention code because it's what I know how to do. Don't want to learn that? Learn some other skill. Do day labor on a construction crew to get some basic trade skills. Learn car maintenance. Learn how to sell real estate. Hell, I don't know, but you have to have some marketable skill in order to get a foot on the ladder. Delivery driving just isn't a career path with any room for growth. Code is just easy because you can learn it with youtube and a chromebook. It's a lot more expensive (and dangerous) to start messing around with an electrical panel or a car engine.\n\nThe guy says he wants off the ride. Well, this is how you do it. I get that it isn't easy. But if you want a different outcome, you have to start walking down a new path.", "God, the level of sexual harassment in the kitchen...you learn real quick not to give anyone hugs.", "Idk about this, I feel like even with this rubric teachers are heroes. I mean, what benefits are they actually getting from their jobs? It sure as hell ain’t good pay.", "\"I've made a huge mistake\"", "They look like the sort of person that has done nothing other than hold down a couch and a bag of dorritos.", "Why would “America is #1” encourage people to immigrate?", ">I dont associate with a party\n\nEnlightened centrist displaying right-wing values in damn near every statement. Fucking lol.", "Sure, we can prescribe a change to society so these jobs aren't necessary, as a broad policy. But to an individual I'd never tell someone to just sit and protest their life away because it won't better their individual situation. I have to give the best advice to an individual based on their circumstances for the best chance of betterment in their life.", "🇨🇦", "It's basically just taking out a loan with the same term and monthly payment as the settlement. Could be completely above board if the interest rate reflects the low chance of default.\n\nBut the people calling in from a TV commercial are probably not the most financially savvy.", "No but I can pay you to make me one.", "The ending cracks me up everytime.", "> Look into penetration testing. Tens of thousands of relatively well paying jobs out there with a low barrier for entry. Some 1-2 week bootcamps you can take.\n\nThat's the scariest thing I read today. script kiddies with 14 days of training as security experts.", "Boring account, try harder.\n\nTo actually take you seriously (though you're not), you don't fix a system at the lowest level, i.e. the service worker in front of you. You fix it at the state and ultimately federal level. You not tipping doesn't do fuck all to the employer.", "Security expert =/= Pentester.", "> Unless you're such a loser you don't even have a bank account\n\nLike thousands and thousands of military veterans. \n\nThank you for your subservience.", "why would you need an army of thousands of low-skill penetration testers? China or Russia?", "Working is just the only way I can reasonably figure out to afford to spend time doing literally nothing which is all I want. Some people aspire to climb the work ladder, I aspire to be able to do nothing.", " u need 2 solve the riDDle", "I can tell you're not educated or a fan of brevity; your entire argument could be cut down to \"fuck you, I got mine.\" \n\nYou arent a good person, don't ever mistake yourself for one.", "Because cyber security is a massive issue for companies right now. Have you not heard of the ransomwear attacks?", "Also no PTO will rollover, use it or lose it. \n\nAlso supervisor never approves jeans on casual Friday.", "saw him do standup in louisville and he was great!", "It's a practice that, overall, is unpleasant and antiquated. While it's the law/custom of the land, people should tip.", "We've all seen videos of a herd of antelope standing around watching a pack of lions tear one of them to shreds. This is us.\n\nI like to imagine each antelope is watching and saying to themselves, let that lion try that with me or my family and I'll kill them all.", "Unless you do it illegally", "What kind of animal orders extra ice with their DP??", "It's a legislated requirement in some countries to protect employees from abuse and violence - so there are established models of requiring companies to do this. [eg. Australia](https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/work-related-violence)", "Extra ice, that's how I knew he was a moran.", ">S.S MAGArita Ville\n\nRIP my sides.", ">\tConservatism is an aesthetic, cultural, social, and political philosophy, which seeks to promote and to preserve traditional social institutions.\n\nBut sure, let’s call it a death cult", "You basically just admitted to being uneducated, so I'll spell this out simply for you: look over my comments. Point to me anywhere I made this about me. I didn't. So why are you accusing me of things? Why are you talking about me? Because you're a dumb fuck. Remind me to have any electricians submit a writing sample, I wouldn't trust you to plug in a toaster.", "> Side fun: The way people order is hilariously awful sometimes, and I've been joking about how people place their orders. If someone wants 2 cheeseburgers, they'll order a meal by number then say \"just the sandwich.\" At this point, I'm waiting for someone to come through, order a #7 large size with a Coke no Ice, but no fries or sandwiches.\n\nBeing on the other side of it, it's because of all the times I'll ask for the sandwich, and they'll assume I mean a combo and ring it up as such. I'd order a western cheeseburger, and they'll say \"So a #3?\", and then I have to explain well yes, but I don't want the combo I just want the sandwich and the drink.\n\nPlus most of these menus will say \"#1 Famous Star, Sandwich $X, Combo $X\". At that point there's nothing wrong with ordering that way.", "It's funny cause a lot of the people complaining probably just quit their job over my state's vaccine mandate.", "Hea just someone dumb enough to buy what Republicans are selling, but socially aware enough to realize he shouldn't advertise that fact.", "Leave the high school kid jobs to the highschoolers and get a better job.", "It will be forgotten in a year. For example remember all the other life changing moments of the past? Exactly ;)", "> Because cyber security is a massive issue for companies right now. Have you not heard of the ransomwear attacks?\n\nyha, and maybe the problem is that the level of education on cyber-defense is so low and poor that this concept makes sense! As the same skill levels as minimum wage fast-food workers?\n\nSounds to me the USA society is treating computer viruses in 2021 with the same level of intelligence as we did with the COVID-19 virus.\n\nHe says that everyone in the Soviet Union knew the system was failing, but no one could imagine an alternative to the status quo, and politicians and citizens alike were resigned to maintaining the pretense of a functioning society. Over time, this delusion became a self-fulfilling prophecy and the fakeness was accepted by everyone as real, an effect that Yurchak termed hypernormalisation.", "As someone who was working in the service industry, they never stopped treating us like animals. In fact with all the new, constantly changing rules that we were now responsible with enforcing, we got treated worse", "/r/vandwellers", "All your questions are fairly childlike in tone. Why should anyone live in squalor? Why do I have to work so much for so little? You might as well complain about why the weather is so bad.\n\nYou can play \"the world SHOULD be this way\" all day, but sooner or later you need to accept the fact that no one is responsible for giving you a comfortable life except yourself. The world is a tough place. Do your best.", "\"I can't work today, I got bone spurs from a prostitute.\"", "Move to Kentucky if you’re fine being alone. Cheap AF.", "'Berta?", "It's ok man. No one is coming to get you XD", "No clue, I was in brooklyn at the time so wherever the trash dumps were for that area. Possible it's already built on top of as NY likes to make parks and buildings on top of landfills.\n\n\nIf somehow found and was able to be recovered - what is 9,000 bitcoin worth? $450 million? Would probably cost you close to that to try to find it - if you could even get permission. And if you came up with nothing you would be out money.\n\nIf you had that kinda money to go looking for it - would be better to just invest it into the market and make money", "\"Should have\" has nothing to do with anything. Aren't you old enough to have learned that life is difficult, and you have to do things yourself to better your situation? I don't agree that any person deserves to have a good, comfortable living because they once filled out an application at McDonalds", "Any 13 year old can get a bank account in 15 minutes", "Forreal tho, I work in a hardware store and we keep hiring people who legit just never show up for their first day of work. It's fucking infuriating because we're so short staffed and people go through the orientation then ghost us. It's fucking baffling.", "I tried to tip more but now everything is 10-15% more expensive in my area but no raises mean I have much less disposable income.", "Lol close; Newfoundland! Although, Fort Mac is basically NL lite so I'd say demographically speaking you are very close!", "Several states had theirs systems overloaded at the beginning of the pandemic and still haven't caught up.", "Bro nobody gives a fuck about you, we hear you. Yeah you're so smart and grown up because you're ok with people working 40 hour weeks to live in squalor.\n\nMaybe when we are literally just discussing philosophical bullshit on reddit you're allowed to want a world where working 40 hours a week is enough to have a good quality of life.", "Their employees are also subject to uncertainty and inflation. If your business relies on paying starvation wages, your business model is shit, and you deserve to go under.", "I agree with him. If you said all that in an actual conversation with me I’d think you’re an indoctrinated nutjob who’s disconnected from reality, spending too much time looking at political shit online. I think you’re the one who needs to take a step back and stop paying so much attention to the blowhards on the extremes.\n\nAnd this is coming from a guy who just called two of his right-wing-conspiracy-nut coworkers straight-up traitors for discussing the need to dissolve the United States because of the “socialism”. Like dude I understand these people are out there but that doesn’t mean their opinions matter or that they have the courage of their convictions. We have to run this country together with these people, and making comments like the one you did isn’t how you get them to see reality and moderate their views.", "We don't exist remember", "Then go live in your happy fantasy world and quit talking shit to me.\n\nBye!", "Not true, most of the world outside of North America has no tipping. I've been to places in several countries with no tipping, the food was just as good, reasonably priced for the location, and the service was arguably better, definitely not worse in any way. I do tip while eating out in NA of course because those servers are laid less than min wage somehow legally, it's still ridiculous.", "> What the fuck are we even working for anymore? \n\nNobody should \"want\" to \"work\". Most people \"have\" to work. If you don't, don't. Live your life.", "Have you uh, tried getting a better job? Teaching yourself a new skill like coding? Let’s not blame the country due to your low skill ceiling.", "It's taken me 18 years to go from high-school to college degree to working jobs that try to pay you the bare minimum despite being highly skilled and qualified for twice as much pay, and finally have a stable position with a company that appreciates the workers and pays well. \n\nIt's been a shit show but yea after almost 20 years life flies finally paying off", "Yeah but as a customer you can look long term and it's worth it Tipping is ridiculous, racist, and just screws the employees in the long run. Change starts with the tippers. Otherwise it just gets worse.", "We offer $24/hr for at home data entry and couldn't find anyone for months.", "Oh boy, when i was a server i had a customer lift up my skirt and try to grab my ass once as i walked by him and his buddies at a table. I managed to grab his hand just-right and put it in a quick chicken-wing hold (my dad was huge on teaching me martial arts and self defense from a very early age, and i kind of never stopped practicing) as i banged his wrist joint down onto the edge of the table (it hurts more than normal because your joint is flexed open)... I didn't really MEAN to, it was mostly just instinctual. I basically looked at him and said \"are you fucking kidding me dude\" and called over our bouncer (nicest dude, but built like a goddamn ox) who was pretty much already up and out of his seat. Dude gets grabbed by the collar and tossed on his ass (literally) as his friends try to apologize to me, and i just said \"just dont be friends with assholes\". To top it off, the fucker only left a $3 tip -- on a bill for 5 people. \n\n \nThe only good part was that my manager/coworkers/bouncer were all supportive and that asshole was 86'd for good.", "Another one to the pile that I've seen on Reddit is that some parents are discouraging or not allowing their teenaged children take summer jobs or part-time jobs due to the current clime.", "Lol. Yeah we all retired off of ~$3k.", "Very very interested, is it this one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFmnAGjt-lI", "What ignites an impetus for such regulation? Attitudes have to change first.", "just be kind, be patient, treat others like people. We want customers like yourself -- otherwise all we're left with is entitled pricks.", "As someone in the manufacturing industry, who has worked every day... because we are considered \"essential\".\n\nAt least you got some kind of recognition and bonus pay.\n\nPeople actually see you.. so they will thank you. But I work behind the scenes. I make parts that keep factory machines operating. I've seen everyone thanked.. except my industry. \n\nBut as they say.. out of sight out of mind.", "I don’t want to work anymore", "> outside of North America\n\nFine, I amend my comment with \"If restaurants in North America ...\" because the rest of the world the no tip policies have been the norm for a long time, as the tipping policies here have been the norm for a long time. I assure you, nobody working for tips in NA wants to go to a set pay rate and no tips. Go ask talesfromyourserver subreddit.", "Maybe best if American cunts keep thinkin that aye mate", "Everyone was reeeeeally nice to grocery store workers when they weren't sure if they could get toilet paper. Now? I get bitched at about prices and stock levels bc everything is stuck at the ports... and I even had to turn down a promotion to dept manager at another store bc the pay bump was so little I'd have lost money on the commute", "Humans are going feral.", "> I get people hate working food service or delivery jobs. Go fonking learn how to do higher paying jobs. \n\nThat's what a lot of people are doing and part of the reason for the labor shortage of those less desirable jobs.", "Waiters and waitresses do get their fair share. They make alot of money in tips. I was a very bad waiter, at a chain resteraunt and I'd make 100 in tips in a 5hr shift.", "Language evolves. Don't be surprised if you start to see \"confusement\" more and more, then suddenly, it's in the Merriam-Websters and then it's taught in school. ¯\\\\\\_(ツ)_/¯", "Or we do, but we're an oppressive dictatorship that needs to be rescued by freedom-loving Americans. \n\nAt least, that's what Fox News tells me.", "> Have a magma cum laude master’s that pays zero.\n\nYou know what they say, find a job you lava and you'll never work again!", "Considering the nightmare of many peoples lives, delusion is more rational than you give credit.", "....and behind a Wendy's doesn't sound good ....", "My favorite was the good ol' \"fast food and minimum wage jobs are meant for teenagers!\"\n\n- People who eat fast food and depend on products and services during the school day.", "Heh Yuck!", "Being a twat is not how you do that though. You'd accomplish more through activism than this virtue signaling bullshit.", "If restaurants outside of North America suddenly had a new expense they would raise prices to compensate. Right now food prices at restaurants in America are based on tipping. If restaurants had to pay servers more so that people don't tip, food would cost more. One way or the other the customers will end up paying.", "Funnily enough, a lot of those jobs pay really well- and they're not going anywhere.", "Doot doot", "The problem with America is not our lack of \"quality citizens\", and even if it was, the majority of Americans are not immigrants in the first place so immigration policy would have no impact. Do you think that all the people that live in Norway immigrated there? Crawl back into your xenophobic cesspool, wherever that happens to be.", "There was an entire generation of professionals (teachers, engineers, etc.) That were able to afford to buy their homes.", "So we've been told. Yet that's how millions of us die after spending our life working to make someone else rich.\n\nBut imagine those millions of workers laboring for the benefit of all of us and not just a few. What's that? The rich people say that would be socialism and it is bad.", "But you wouldn't pay what it's actually worth, you'd bitch about how expensive it was because \"Why pay that when I can make it at home for 1/3 the cost?!\" You'll just move that goal post again.", "It is! I listen to it through the Apple podcast app so IDK if there's any difference in editing or content, but that's definitely what I was talking about.", "Actually for most of those people, no.\n\nThey are quitting their current job BEFORE learning new skills and knowledge to get higher paying jobs. \n\nAnd while they’re unemployed they’re draining money from others.", "honestly dude, just find a job waiting somewhere. if you make your money off tips you might as well find a place to serve food and you'll make more money without spending so much on gas and eventually wearing your car down.", "I know it's been posted before, probably many times, but this makes me chuckle every time. Here, have one of my internet SVUs (Standard Valueless Units) aka an ascending arrow.", "> Those retired folks all worked so they can own houses, not so some company can profit off them.\n\nNo, they worked so the rich can profit. Remove that one thing and the job disappears. Working for the benefit of the worker is socialism. We should be for that. But our religions forbid it.", "lol Nailed it. My family keep saying this sort of shit.", "This guy has a mighty beard. Props!", "Even better\n\n\"That racist or sexist thing that stranger just said? Thats probably not who they are.\"", "As an icu nurse, I had friends and acquaintances buying my entire unit pizza and checking up on me. For the first wave, I had to live in a hotel for two months because my fam is immunocompromised. It really was a terrible time for me and those things helped a little. Now I get called a liar by people I used to respect. I get told I’m biased because it’s all I see and operating on fear. I get told fake news about my own profession I’ve worked at the most intense level at for ten years. I’m a joke to many now. I’d love to quit and find something else. Even hospital admin are piling on, telling us to “use our resources” when we tell her we are operating at an unsafe staffing level. We have no fucking resources.", "Terhune is a national treasure. Brett if you’re reading this - get off my lawn!", "The rich profited less when they were working.", "More socialist, communism is closer to the capitalism we have now where a select class of people control the wealth.", "This lad gold, has been for a long time.", "> Cops love being called heroes and then not working.\n\nWhile collecting overtime. From the workers.", "Why not? What mysterious value does a person suddenly gain because they worked hard enough to appease you? What value do you bring that is so much greater than a worker at a restaurant, McDonald's or otherwise, that you have earned a few of the comforts in life and they have earned none?", "Boomers can remember when McDonalds advertised a burger, drink, and fries with change back from your dollar. VW Beetles cost under $2k.\n\nWe could have that world, or we could have Bezos. It's really our choice.", ">\"I know tons of people who had smoke detectors and their houses still burned down! Whats the point of that!\"\n\nWas beautiful", "Maybe, good luck with that, but frankly maybe letting more people in from my country and other parts of the world where tipping isn't so abused would help more. I can't see how the needle is going to shift in the US when you just call everyone that doesn't pay 25% extra for everything from a car ride to a dinner a \"twat\".", "That’s an incredibly interesting sub!", "And all your responses are condescending and dismissive, I doubt a child could even ask those questions.\n\nBy the way, the weather is shit because the same people who devalued the price of labor across the board, decided cheap fuel and profits now meant that my generation and everyone after it could get fucked.\n\nFrom your tone I doubt you even give a shit about anyone but yourself.\n\nI don't demand handouts or absolve all self responsibility, I'm tired of hearing were civilised or developed or the economy is bad when in reality it's just the dragons on top making everything shittier than it has to be, and I'm sick of people like you who say life's shit deal with it, and won't lift a finger to make it any less shittier.\n\nYou'd chop down every fucking tree before you'd plant one because you wouldn't get any shade and fuck anyone who would.", "I don’t believe in good people and anyone who calls themselves one is a narcissistic liar. We’re all just people. I’m sorry you don’t make enough so you need tips but tips are variable and you end up in the shitter anyway, do I need to strike for you?", "Yep, that's capitalism bro. This is how the system was designed to work. Nothing about this is broken or going wrong, don't be alarmed, it's all going according to plan.", "Maybe you were not ready for a family and kids if you make minimum wage...", "What I did as a driver was once a month the drivers would pool some money and do something nice for in store people", "Nothing. It has nothing to do with me. I don't determine a person's value.\n\nSome people win the lottery. Did they deserve it? Who cares? It happens.\n\nI just don't believe people should get things just because they feel they deserve them.\n\nMostly because that's the way the world works. I don't see any value in bitching about how life isn't fair.", "Did anybody ever ‘want to work’?", "Why don't you get a better job if it's so easy then dumbass?\n\nHowever much you make you could always stand to make more.", "HAAAA", "Why do you hate America so much?", "Do it, if you can!\nI moved around a lot in my 20’s and had a blast. I came back and went to college, and graduated in my 30’s. Now I’m in the hole with student debt and in a place where I want to make sure I can retire comfortably… so bailing out isn’t an option for me anymore. But it was fun when I could/did. Things are obviously much different with the pandemic, but maybe there is still a way :) good luck!", "This is so beautiful it reminded me as well", "Emagherd, I’m about to jump on a union call and here we may have to authorize strike action because our employer won’t give us a fair contract.\n\nThis just hits home", "Some of these \"high school\" jobs are also a perfect fit for people with certain disabilities, which they can't magically grow out of. I don't expect someone with your point of view to give two shits about something like that though.", "From the [Bureau of Labor Statistics](https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2019/home.htm):\n\n> The percentage of hourly paid workers earning the prevailing federal minimum wage or less edged down from 2.1 percent in 2018 to 1.9 percent in 2019.\n\nSo even if you think that advice can’t be followed by 2% of hourly paid workers, there’s 98% earning more.", "Im sure refugees have something to say about this. Its not like theyre leaving their country with tons of money or expect to be suddenly rich when they reach the country of their destination.", "thank you for your unbelievable wisdom. The point still stands that some certain people are in that situation and are essentially locked in", "You just described capitalism.\n\nAnd people not wanting to work was once called [drapetomania](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drapetomania). Funny how not wanting to work was a disease that plagued slaves.", "Why do you think I hate America? Or is this just another cry wolf, is the next words out of your mouth going to be \"you're racist\"? lol or INSURRECTION!!!! \n\nhahaha so predictable.", "[Drapetomania](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drapetomania) \n \n >Drapetomania was considered a conjectural mental illness that, in 1851, American physician Samuel A. Cartwright hypothesized as the cause of enslaved Africans fleeing captivity. : 41 Contemporarily reprinted in the South, Cartwright's article was widely mocked and satirized in the northern United States. The concept has since been debunked as pseudoscience: 2 and shown to be part of the edifice of scientific racism. The term derives from the Greek δραπέτης (drapetes, \"a runaway [slave]\") and μανία (mania, \"madness, frenzy\").\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "And while the cost of living is high, the social programs are great and average wages are also very high.\n\nI'd 100% rather work at mcdonalds in Norway than the US. \n\nThe median wages can also be misleading because the [income distribution itself is much tighter](https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2017/04/24/middle-class-fortunes-in-western-europe/st_2017-04-24_western-europe-middle-class_e-01/)...so the scenario for people on the bottom is actually MUCH better than it would seem based on average/median incomes alone. \n\nFar fewer people making poverty wages, but also less people in that upper middle class range.", "Ill take this opportunity to link another favourite of mine, please everybody dont just flood it with karma farming circlejerking bullshit\n\nr/collapse", "Well I graduated college in 2007 right when the economy tanked so around then. And I lived in Miami, one of the highest cost of living cities in the country. I had a one bedroom apartment for $1100 a month.", "You have been trained well, your rewards will come in heaven, your boss's will be collected now. But you will get yours, please continue your evangelism for the super rich until then.", "Youre projecting your own failings and inadequacy on others. There are good people in the world, you just aren't one of them.", "I'm not seeing your point? You're just stating the number of people earning minimum wage?\n\nA lot of people do not have the time, resources or energy to dedicate to learning a complicated new skill. And it becomes even harder still to pick that skill up if you can only dedicate an hour or so every few days", "Brutal. \nI was once told that working more than 14 days in a row for 12 hours a day was against company policy. But was just a guideline. But if I felt UNCOMFORTABLE with working more, I should speak up. Like what? So someone else working the same schedule as me will have to cover me if I’m not “comfortable”. Yeah, pass for not getting the work and pass for being a “pain in the ass” \nI did it. And it was miserable.", "I mean his point still stands to. People's sexual irresponsibility creates situations of their own making. You can still work to better yourself while maintaining a family/work schedule.", "Nice little rant. Feel better? Are you making the world a better place with your strident internet posting? You don't shit about me. If I'm condescending, it's because it's what a majority people posting here deserve. I know dozens of criminally lazy people who have a hundred complaints about the government and society while they literally sit on their couch 12 hours a day and watch tv. A whole bunch of whiny little babies bitching when the great majority don't do a damn thing to change even their own position, let alone society in general.", "Because the narrative is that America is #1 not because of anything about the region itself (the main reason for America’s domination in the past), but of some superior intrinsic quality of Americans. If you’re dissatisfied with your situation, go wherever you want. You’re the belle of the ball, and any country would be glad to have you.", "I bought those koozies for my republican family members who enjoy them unironically. And I am waiting for the day they go to his website and learn about him....", "Clapping out the window at 7pm every night… now public enemy number 1", "This always gets me. I'm a barista. We fill the cup all the way with ice. It ends up being 50/50 ice/beverage. While that may seem like a lot, less ice doesn't chill the drink fully, which is fine if you like it that way, but lots of people don't like lukewarm iced lattes. The drink occupies the spaces between the cubes, melting them slightly to cool the drink and allow a straw to fit. I literally can't fit more than a few more cubes even if I let some of the first cubes melt some. Have fun with your five extra ice cubes. The people who ask for only five ice cubes annoy me less.", "people are doing that and it's apparently creating some kind of job crisis. The job doesn't disappear just because someone doesn't want to do it, you know.", "Our new boss decided to work remote despite the mandate that we \"all\" be back in the office (for no good reason, since we're all set up to work remote.) Morale has tanked, and people are getting PISSED since a few managers and other departments are remote still.\n\nBUT new boss wants to throw a pizza party! Insisted on it even despite being warned how low morale is. Got the budget approved for it, set a date, then they immediately put in for a few days off around that date. Holy shit we are so done.", "Okay, your buying power of $9 in 2007 would require $12.20 today [based on this CPI calculator.](https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=9&year1=200701&year2=202109) And [average rent for a Miami apartment is around $2200](https://www.zumper.com/rent-research/miami-fl).\n\nSo not only has buying power decreased by 35%, rents doubled. You may have been able to pull it off 15 years ago, but I highly doubt people could do it now.", "Be sure to read the pamphlets Walmart gives to its workers on how to file for welfare and food stamps even with a full time job there.\n\nWalmart really cares about its workers ability to keep generating profits for them.", "This is really really good. Funnier than most Netflix stand up specials.", "Yet you still bitch about what a victim you are and how your entitlements are deserved. God bless you.", "So my point stands too. Thanks for your unbelievable wisdom. Stfu.", "My mother does this with her orders of iced tea. It drives me insane. Why not just order water at that point?", "Removed?", "The ol crayola virus ay? Lol havent heard that before", "And I don't see how you being a twat is going to \"shift the needle,\" you're just being a twat.\n\nIn fact, I know it's not going to at all. It just makes people's lives miserable. And you know it does. That's why you're doing it. That's what makes you a twat, not the amount you tip.", "Yeah I’m really not sure why it was removed, it’s not political and this video was never posted to this sub before, not sure what rules it broke?", "Norway is great if you are Norwegian.", "> Luck plays a huge role in things as well.\n\nTrue, I'm rich because of luck. I stay rich from being smart but I never worked for my wealth.", "My point is that if someone posted an advice comment like \"eat more bread\" and then I angrily responded \"but what about the people that can't eat gluten!?\"\n\nBoth minimum-wage earners and gluten-free people are roughly about 1% of the population. So advice can still be helpful for the vast majority of other people, even though it doesn't apply to literally everyone.", "Saw a tweet linked on reddit a day or two back about how the \"immigrants are taking our jobs!\" people have been really quiet lately\n\nProbably too busy threatening people at school board meetings these days I guess", "derp", "Just be kind to them, they need to work regardless of how shit it might be and youre income, just be kind, the feeling lingers for quite a long time when someone is kind", "> The way people order is hilariously awful sometimes\n\nHow would you interpret \"Jr bacon cheeseburger, just ketchup\"??\n\nWay back in the late 90s, I received two plain burgers on buns with just ketchup. Yes, I still think about this from time to time. They screw you at the drive thru!! 😆", "> Because I worked in the hospitality industry for 15 years.\n\nSo you're a loser.\n\nAnd of course a conservative.", "Lol its hilarious you soap boxed to the guy directly complaining about soap boxing, i love you thank you", "This always comes up lol. I have paid 100% of my taxes since I started serving. We tip pool and you can't hide them. Many restaurants just claim for you now because they don't wanna get audited.", "Hey Peter man! Check out channel nine, it's the breast exam!", "always the american's that fucking hate the poor with a passion lmao", "> Don't punish the servers for the company's shitty behavior\n\nDon't reward the thieves. Don't partner with the scum and pretend to be the victim.\n\nYou should look into the litterbug campaign to see how you are a corporate tool.", "you're responding to a thread of comments advising a pizza delivery guy to just \"learn to code\".\n\nNo one is talking about the other 99%, only you", "As a cook/chef it was soul crushing when I’d work a 13 hour shift in the hot, sweaty, stressful kitchen and then a waiter would come in, just for dinner service, and then make my weekly wage in cash tips….in a single busy night \n\nAnd of course, the servers would never tip the kitchen staff for making the incredible food that they are receiving the reward for \n\nFuck, it still upsets me \n\nAfter 10 years I had enough, now I build stairs out of metal and life is so much better; steady hours, no moment-to-moment stress, I’m home at a reasonable hour every single day, and I make better money than my old bosses\n\nAnyone working in a kitchen has my respect and my condolences; that job is brutal and so incredibly under compensated", "Tipping is not a market mechanism, it wasn't just willed into existence by market participants. Tipping is part of a compensation regulation framework codified in US law, and eventually fit into the social and business structure of US food service.\n\nThe most efficient and permanent way to effect change is by law, which will lead to change in business structure, which will lead to change in social structure.\n\nYou're suggesting to start at the opposite end by changing consumer habits. That's fighting an uphill battle for no reason.\n___\n\nEdit: We agree on the outcome, we disagree on the means to achieve it", "That's by design. The restaurant wants to exploit the server, The customer does too.\n\nTipping is how they do it. Travel to a different country to see how this can work.", "> The employer still has to pay the server actual minimum wage regardless\n\nThat's like saying you still have to feed slaves.", "Lmao sorry I can handle the fact that your actions have consequences. Poor people popping out 5 kids and never getting an education and being like “why don’t I have enough money??!!”", "> Just so he can understand/learn to be humble.\n\nLike you are!", "> I prefer it in other countries where it's a regular job and not some fucked up audition to see if you earn 20% of the check.\n\nAmen!\n\nAlmost all women servers are encouraged to use tactics similar to a prostitute to try and get the biggest tip. Hooters is the best example of this. If you have to flirt with customers you're selling yourself, not the food.", "Ok, that's why I also have an American example with Dan Price. He made the minimum base salary at his company $70k and did it by slashing his own and other C level executives' salary, while still paying them handsomely. Turns out if you just bypass that second yacht and third summer home and instead treat your employees as humans that you actually care about and pay them enough to live comfortably, you get great help and your company thrives.", "2 friends of my sister got one way tickets to australia and haven't come back. that was 4-5 years ago. no college degree, not a ton of work to put on their resume but they've said it's been the best decision ever and they probably will never return to the usa.\n\n\nmy sister went to sydney, australia for vet school. she's probably moving to europe in a few years but has also said she'll never return to the usa. it's just a better life elsewhere. the whole \"work yourself to death\" lifestyle doesn't exist there at every job like it does here.", "I'm not sure I follow?\n\n\"Rewarding the thieves\" in this case is paying for your meal from the restaurant. If everyone stops tipping, the servers get screwed until they quit, if everyone stops supporting businesses that don't pay a living wage, the servers still lose their jobs, but the business owners with shitty practices also go under\n\nI am aware of the litterbug campaign, it's the same thing as the plastic recycling deal", "And the line cooks and dishwashers?", "I’m neither but ok. I worked from 15-30 in restaurants working my way up to executive chef and then walked away to become a stay at home parent. I’m also a registered independent.", "Be that as it may, you still depend on tips. I do tip btw. I tipped a whole 20% at Red Robin today. I’m not the reason you live in the prison that is service work, you are.", "18% if lucky. Sunday lunch you are more likely to get a Jesus pamphlet for a tip. And then a bus full of teenagers shows up with the tipping is optional attitude. #twelvedollarshift", "How am i a victim and what entitlements do i deserve?", "First thought: they want a small bacon burger only ketchup, we got McDoubles, so ask if the Bacon McDouble is okay and if not ask if a cheeseburger add bacon is what they want. Only ketchup is easy. After that it's on table to get the order made right, then for the runner to bag it up right, then for the presenter to hand it out right.", "I don't see why you're upset about that. It's why people are leaving their dead-end jobs to learn how to do higher paying jobs.\n\nMore people will increase their skills if it's encouraged and add overall more value to our economy.\n\nIf you have issues with unemployment benefits, that's a different matter entirely, however I get the impression you're justifying a narrative to yourself rather than looking dispassionately for the rational justification for decisions people in an economy make. I thought we were talking about the reason people are doing things, not how you feel about it.", "No, you're just a twat being a snarky shit.\n\nCurrent regulation is what allows the tipping culture in the first place.", "I've worked in restaurants a long time. No server in NA wants to get rid of tipping, and restaurants raise prices on shit all the time because the cost of product keeps going up. Imagine then also having to pay dozens of people almost $12 more an hour.", "> (I am not a politician, I have no say in regulation, I cannot affect policy, the only thing I can do is not continue to perpetuate the system)\n\nSo you're replacing doing nothing with doing the one thing that just makes things worse for everyone stuck with it.\n\nFuck off.", "1. They didnt even throw capitalism entirely under the bus, but your version of it. \n\n2. You probably call yourself a \"capitalist\" which makes about as much sense as someone watching Joe Rogan and not owning any weapons calling themselves a \"hunter\".", "I get that, it's just hilarious to me that people do it for the most basic sandwiches, not the special ones. I started joking about it after I had a few cars in the same night ask for a number 7 no fries or drink and had to confirm that it was for 2 cheeseburgers (one of them only wanted one).", "Haha, thanks for answering. This was Wendy's and it's one of their standard burgers which normally comes with lettuce, tomato and mayo. Except I didn't want any of that. \n\nBut I assumed saying bacon and cheese in my request would get me those toppings, especially since it's in the name! In fact, I used to order exactly this plenty of times (they were $1 at the time) and got what I wanted on every occasion except this one.\n\nIt just stuck with me because I had already driven away when I found that they had taken the \"just ketchup\" part very literally. 😄", "Hahaha I'm likely just as educated as you. I chose this to start my own business as it's a solid industry to get into. You sound like a real clown though", "I'm conservative yes. Republicans are not my party though. I forgot being able to understand both sides of an argument makes me a nazi.", "Just like everything else I said but okay bud", "And I thought r/ChildFree was full of solid reasons to avoid having kids.", "It was a very interesting listen, going to check out the rest of their podcast. Ty for the heads up, I definitely learned a lot.", "I almost want my son to become a plumber vs going to college.", "How many pizza delivery guys does Norway take in a year? Like 3000 or 5000? There must be quite the need for pizza delivery", "You likely aren't", "I was just able to watch it. The thumbnail is fine, but the link still works.", "What is it with you skinflint morons and trying to make these conversations about me? I'm talking about the industry and people at large, that is not my profession. You're fucking stupid.", ">Mostly because that's the way the world works. I don't see any value in bitching about how life isn't fair.\n\nOk, then let's give up on society altogether. Let's revert back to the truest state of nature - abolish all laws, take whatever you can, kill if you feel like it, rape if you're powerful enough. Why not?\n\nIt's like you've somehow bought so far into Ayn Rand type propaganda bullshit that you've forgotten the entire point of human society. The goal is supposed to be to make life better and more equitable for future generations - if we're not striving for that, what's the point of any of this?\n\nThe real problem with people like you, as I've seen time and time again, is that you're all \"survival of the fittest\" when you're on top and benefiting, but the moment the tables turn, you're crying about how unfair it all is. If you want to abolish society and all social safety nets, I hope you're prepared for the consequences. When the poor have nothing else to eat, they will eat the rich.", "You gonna be ok lol?", "The fuck? I'm not talking about myself or my job, moron. What is it with cheapskates and conservatives lacking critical reading skills? Is it a congenital defect or did you eat lead paint chips?", "Yeah I think imma be ok, but I don't think the kids are alright.", "I got a trade, road construction- They paid me to do my training/on the job experience. Walked out with a certificate + machinery tickets, and a permanent job out of it. At 19. No uni debt. Kept on for 10 years until I moved to something else that paid more- Which also didn't need a degree. Life experience helped out (existing job experience, volunteering etc)", "Uh, in places with comparable living quality as non-shithole parts of the US, food absolutely is that expensive. They also have generous social safety nets that change the equation of what is a living wage. Get a clue, needledick.", "What if I don't work for an hourly wage and I also feel that they deserve a living wage?", "What mom taught you to be an asshole?", "Dude it definitely is. I'm not making this up. Read about race and tipping. It's terrible", ">I took an early retirement \n\nHow did you do that\n\n>in my late 30s I slipped and hurt my back on the job as a construction site supervisor making $85 an hour and got to retire with full benefits and my disability insurance continues to pay me 80% of my wage", "There is literally no fuckery going on towards the tipping customer unless they're an entitled cheapskate like you. Every meal or beer I order I know it will be 20%+ more than listed on the menu from tip, just like I know it will be more because of sales tax. Get the fuck over it. Lobby congress, don't take it out on working people.", "Oh dude you’re telling me. I might be a straight man but I can’t lie and tell you I haven’t flirted with gay men when they’re customers. \n\nI straight up entertained some creep trying to convince me to travel to Puerto Rico with him for a fun little trip. Gotta fat tip for that. I was broke af back then.", "i mean... yeah. but i have dental care and a roof. im not saying its right or good... just that that's how it is. that's why people work jobs they hate that don't treat them right- the potentially horrific alternative is even more frightening than the known/predictably unpleasant.\n\nkinda like 'Prisoner's Dilemma.'", "If there are 10 nazis at a table and you sit down with them then there are now 11 nazis. And you speak as if understanding both sides of an argument should also mean both sides are valid when one is clearly inferior and shouldn't even be considered to begin with.", "Nope. \n\nThe average for a full time delivery driver in the US is around 24k a year. \n\nThey also have to pay for all the wear and tear on their car, which many companies in Europe cover. That's a major difference. Then you have health insurance contribution not being taken out of the wages, which in the US is often 20% or more of a paycheck (hell, I've payed over 37% for just myself and my wife).\n\n You also get a nice amount of actual guaranteed paid vacation time and other benefits that you're not getting in the US. That amounts to quite a bit.\n\nThe actual amount you earn and keep is simply higher for most European people in service jobs. Income taxes are higher for many people, but for those at this level, they actually end up with more than equivalent workers in the US do. That's a fact.", "Australia usually has jobs in demand that you can try and find. \n\nOne of my mates came over from South Africa as a paramedic, for example. \nSomeone I used to work with, his mum is a hair dresser, and they needed that at the time.", "yes many people find that doing rewarding work is more then just a pay check, teacher or construction are great examples of being able to stand back and say look what I made.", "I smell a nazi", "What a selfish, backwards justification for not tipping. If you don't agree with the service model, don't go out somewhere where the server relies on tips to live. You aren't hurting the company by eating there and not tipping - the only person you're hurting is the server making 2.35 an hour. If you actually go through your life not tipping because you think it's some sort of crusade, you are absolutely not helping anyone.", ">What are they doing that deserves tips that I'm not.\n\nWorking for 2.35 an hour you fucking moron.", "I'm sure the server with a child at home is going to thank you 20 years from now when your grassroots anti-tipping campaign has shifted public opinion enough. I'm sure she'd appreciate that more than buying groceries or paying for daycare. Jesus I don't know how people like you function with such few brain cells kicking around.", "> Imagine then also having to pay dozens of people almost $12 more an hour.\n\nOh the horror! Imagine if businesses actually had to compete instead of having other people subsidize their costs! This country is so full of people that cry about socialism yet encourage corporate socialism at every turn.", "But that’s only because they typically don’t file all their tips. 30k is the base salary.", "Threads like these always make it easy to tell who has never worked in food service. Or were a cashier at McDonalds for three weeks and think they know the ins and outs of it.", "Maybe you can't afford to eat out? And how do you keep up with any social norms? Times change, boohoo. Be a normal person. If you'd like some cooking classes if be happy to help. It's a great hobby, you'll be healthier, and you'll save a fuck ton of money.", "I'm making an argument more for improving material conditions in the US than for people emigrating to Norway", "coward.", "Ok", "There is a social contract surrounding tipping. If you dont tip, you shouldn't go to places where there is an unwritten rule you will tip. \n\nPlay by society's rules or don't play in society. Your choice. Otherwise you're just another gaping asshole", "r/videos has 25 million subscribers. The audience for all our comments on this public forum is not one single person, but hundreds or thousands of people that happen to read it.", "Hell, see if he's interested in Roblox since it can be a good gateway to programming with Lua and he could be a software engineer of some sort too without needing to get a degree or certs.", "Tipping isn't actually an option. It's understood thst you will tip, if you choose not to youre just being an antisocial asshole. If you cant afford to tip, you can't afford to eat out. You arent entitled to the labor of restaurant workers without compensation. The system we have is the system we have, play by its rules or stay out of it. This isnt difficult to understand unless you're a selfish twat.", "You can think and feel all you like. It's your right.", "\"Okay, let's give up on society altogether\"\n\nIn other words, \"let's give up on this point altogether and immediately generalize me into whatever trope you feel best serves your bias. \n\nI'm lower middle class by salary level.\n\nI just don't buy your bullshit.\n\nGood luck.", "There is a lot of shit to get pedantic about, ordering a burger is a new one", "Thanks for that. I have no plans on quitting though, I only have 3 classes or so left in the spring semester and I'll be finished.", "Had a guy who constantly tried to press his nasty dick against me when I worked kitchen still. Had to threaten him with physical violence to get him to stop because our managers did nothing and told me to deal with it. \n\nJust recently I tried to get back into it in a bakery and the assistant manager stole my number off my resume and started creeping on me in texts with never having met him. Only just got that situation fucking handled.\n\nI just want to work. Just because I'm a woman doesn't fucking mean I exist to be molested or harassed, and I am so fucking done with it.", "I appreciate your input, I'm open to all advice handed my way at this point. I'm 36 and graduating this next April. There's not a lot of job opportunities within my commute distance here in small town Montana, but I look every day. Cheers, and thank you again.", "Historically your best bet would be to move to a bigger city. But now remote work is increasingly common. I'd recommend looking for an online recruiter to work with, though I don't know if they work much with new grads. But if they don't, keep them in mind in a few years. Recruiters can be super helpful for finding new, better paying positions.", "Lol how uncultured are you? Either that or you're showing how young you are. https://youtu.be/wrwQ9G4epys", "You picked a restaurant where tipping is expected. Youre the asshole here. Full stop. You. You suck. Be better.", "I thought Joe Rogan did mma?", "You point only takes into account the first 2 bullets. *There are 12 (now 13) more.*", "Good point, I'll add it to my list.", "this guy is fantastic, he did a video last year about not wanting to wear a mask.", "I've got a condition, it's called, being selfish.", "huh?", "People who have manual skill can be valuable in many countries. For example, you can get a working holiday visa in Australia. The us doesn't qualify, but there are 19 countries on the list.\n\nThen there are people who are going to Asia to teach English just because it's their mother tongue. A lot to US citizen benefited for that.\n\nCanada use to look fod tradesmen.", "Seems weird after all this time they still call it Newfoundland. You would think by now it would be called Foundland, or Oldfoundland", "Thank you for the credit! Yeah, I wrote that up myself. Just got tired of watching folks try to blame the \"labor shortage\" on just one thing, when the reality is a giant pile of things all happening at the same time. \n\n\nPardon me while I go squeeing to my husband, \"Honey, they're quoting me on the internet again!\"", "As it should be", "I don’t think anyone would deny that the US healthcare system is highly profitable for the US healthcare industry.", "Are we playing argue the other guys side? If we are you won.", "Ooh, ignorant and confidant.", "You left off healthcare. Small businesses in Europe aren’t saddled with hundreds of dollars per employee paying the profits of health insurance companies. \n\nAnd yes, it’s a complicated problem. But America’s attitude seems to be, “Well, we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas”.", "Get the fuck out of here, but also, no one will take you.", "You complained about livable wages, and here you are spewing hate against other people for being stuck with shitty wages.\n\nWhat a fucking twat.", "Tipping culture is explicitly regulated to exist. In fact, it's explicitly in the law as an exception to normal minimum wage. Without that regulation explicitly giving an exception, they'd be at least minimum wage.\n\nYou're also being a twat. Nobody here is advocating for keeping tipping. But if you're using their services and you don't tip you're just a twat. There's nothing more to it than that: You're a twat.", "I feel sorry for you", "I think also what’s making it worse is nobody wants their high school kids working in the middle of a pandemic. Normally a ton of high school kids fill in those jobs in grocery stores and fast food but if the parents don’t want them working there’s less workers. Our babysitter used to be a cashier at a grocery store before covid.", "Well hopefuuly some day you'll learn how to empathize with the guy delivering your food. The current mindset you have is very selfish. So, in your own words, grow up.", "In Hamilton times sure, and immigrants now make positive contributions to society all the time. I live a whole lot closer than most to where many immigrants to the US come from today, and I'd love for you to express your feelings about them in person. I doubt you'd have the spine to.", "Well, don’t forget the old adage, “If you don’t like it here, you can leave!”\n\nI’ve been hearing that one since childhood.", "I’m glad you escaped that trap.", "It's sad, we need more clarity on tax expenditure.. In england during the recession of 2008 the wankers on the house of Lords voted for a pay increase and to their food allowances in the on site restaurant when they can eat for free and a pint costs them under a quid in the centre of London where the rest of us pay over 4 pound a pint.. Politicians need to be strung up", "A friend of mine works in the housing department at a university. He was talking about how many students, if they can't make a meeting with him, will do things like send a photo proving they are sick or a doctor's note, etc. Like \"Dude, I don't need a photo of your rash to explain why you didn't make the meeting. Just say you're sick.\"\n\nI thought about it and I think it tracks back to working in retail/restaurant. Most college students that have had any kind of job before college have likely worked in retail or food service and for whatever reason, those industries are absolutely convinced that their employees are constantly lying about being sick and demand \"proof\" that someone is sick if they miss work. So it becomes ingrained in people that if they are sick they have to prove it somehow. I work in software development, 20 years later, and I still have to stop and remind myself \"My boss trusts that I'm sick if I say I'm sick and I don't need to send in a doctor's note or proof.\"", "I don't feel bad about going to restaurants at all. Food service employees need that paycheck, man. I just make sure that I treat them with respect and dignity. And I tip well. Minimum 25-30%.", "That's right, baby.", "I tip delivery guys HUGE. I tip for to go food even when I pick it up. I worked in restaurants for years. I also didn't bitch and whine about how life was unfair to me and expect other people to pity me. Empathizing is fine, but it doesn't change basic facts of life. You'll understand better when you grow up.", "k", "I'm proud of you, you're a winner!", "Well maybe some of us want positive change while still acknowledging reality while others see reality and thinj it is impossible to change..\n\nObviously jerking ourselves off on reddit isn't gonna do dick but I'd like to think we can change things to be better for everyone in the end. \n\nNobody is expecting people to pity them merely expressing a desire for a basic standard of living achievable if you give up 40 hours of your life a week in labor. It's beyond me why people would suffer then say \"oh i suffered they should too\" vs \"oh i sufferes let's make it so they don't\" but that seems to be a mantra for many folks I've met. \n\nAs if making it unfair for future generations will retroactively make what happened to them ok instead of just continuing the bullshit for no reason other than spite.\n\nEdit: re grown up, idk what you measure that by but i think once you have a mortgage wife and cars and a job and youre paying taxes you should* count as grown up so... Consider me grown (although we never truly stop growing as people)", "I think you need to socialize with some people in real life, maybe that will help.", "It was a good trade. You just had to buy back in later when it dipped. Also literally anyone with a financial education was telling you that buying imagination currency made you insane, so like, that's an entirety of human social conditioning working again you.", "No dude person. Mr pink don’t tip in the movie. \n\nNothin beyond a movie reference, I don’t make jokes about people’s sexual preference cuz it’s lame as shit.", ">Conservatism is an aesthetic, cultural, social, and political philosophy, which seeks to promote and to preserve traditional social institutions\n\nto the exclusion of anything else. Conservatives have always, and will always strive for intolerance and exclusion as basic principles", "400K where i live isnt enough money to not spend in a life time", "do you run a private restaurant and know the current profit margins?", "No hate here. Why do you assume my lack of approval equates to hate? Great pic by the way, thats one good looking son of a gun.", "I can live with that", "I can live with that" ]	655	videos	Nobody Wants To Work Anymore!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHztnnekHic	/r/videos/comments/qcw9kq/garth_brooks_comment_section_explained/	[ "Where are the bodies Garth?", "My mom and dad went to a Garth Brooks concert, never came home. I want my parents back Garth", "Garth touched my camera through the fence", "Garth did it, the taco bell story makes it just too obvious.", "I like that.", "What", "Don't touch my comment through the fence", "Very high and tight", "I GOT A DUI BABE-EEEEEEEEEEEEE", "Y'ALL KNOW WHAT'S A BANANA SPLIT?", "I used to love YMH until it turned into essentially a 2hr pod that ridicules and laughs at mentally retarded people. Not just dumb people, but clearly people who have awful mental disorders. Christina P is probably one of the most unfunny humans on the planet. Water wee dune hair!??!", "I think the what guy is my dad", "You just ruined your life.", "You just don’t understand cawlmedy b", "Remember to watch out for waspeses, have some water, hydration is important. It's thursday which means it's almost friday which is the weekend, so have a good weekend and be safe. Dont have too much fun or you might not feel good. Be blessed. And have a good weekend. Remember to drink plenty of water. Cuz if you dont, you might feel bad, and that's not good. Ok. Have a blessed day, I hope you all have a good day.", "Exactly man. I also used to watch it but realized it literally just Tom and Christina doing the same shit and making same unfunny references whilst making fun of mentally ill people.", "You're gonna get the stamp buddy", "Try it out Garth", "They deserve closure, G.", "It has always been about laughing at mentally retarded people, try to keep up.", "Secrets out. I’m the water champ", "What", "Fuck the police, fuck-, fuck-", "I mean that's basically any podcast tbh. Cumtown is just calling each other gay and making fun of retarded people. Difference is, that show is actually funny unlike YMH.", "https://www.reddit.com/r/yourmomshousepodcast/\n\nStealing the top comment just to initiate more people to the sub, and fuck it up worse than it is.", "I want to smell like nothings impossible", "some beautifully curated clips from the annals of the internet.", "I like to think they bought a cheap guitar for this video, and decided they didn't want to actually pay for it so they kept it in the box and just returned it still unopened as soon as they were done filming.", "TIL what a banana split truly is. Turns out I wasn't ready, those mashed up cornchips really were a curve ball.", "You're not following proto there chomo", "Hihitler.\n\nYes! References are the best! I see no reason to speak in any other language!\n\nTouchmyjeansthroughthebigtitsthatfartrandyroflmaocopter!\n\nBart Krasher is Fat and Nadav is googling!", "There's something really unsettling about Tom Segura, I can't explain it, it's in his eyes, he looks so unfeeling.", "Good morning, Julia!", "Lol I can't wait for those drops in the future.", "I used to follow their podcast, but I stopped because it was kind of making me feel uncomfortable sometimes with a few of the videos they were reacting to. It's fun to laugh at weirdos on the internet and I think it's mostly harmless when you're a smaller show, but they are kind of huge now and every time they mock some mentally ill person they are directing their entire audience at them. Garth Brooks can take that heat, but I wonder if the same is the case for some of the other characters they've featured.", "100% a psychopath but he's OUR psychopath.", "Chomo", "You must be the \"Good morning Julia\" guy.", "Swipe Up!", "That's not how we do things down at Falcon Carwash.", "Hope this video doesn't scare you", "Try it out!", "I want to smell like nothing is impossible", "Point of personal privilege!", "when I saw the preview on the front page I was like \"Garth has really let himself go\"", "Tommy bunz is starting to look like Walter White", "I don’t understand what the videos after them talking about the buried bodies mean. Can someone explain?", "I feel this is mean spirited.", "Hi Mommy's", "You just lost yer life there bud.", "Keep your uncle away from my family", "Watch out for waspes!", "Poor Garth vs an army of homeless", "Sometimes that guy he looks right into ya. Right into your eyes. And, you know, the thing about Tom... he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When he comes at ya, doesn't seem to be living... until he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'.", "What", "Two words: Chris Gaines", "Nobody forget that Bert Kreischer is attracted to dogs and is morbidly obese.", "good morning my queen above 18", "WHERE ARE THE BODIES, TOM?", "Stop calling me Daddy nalgon", "Cmon, Garth, show me how them big tits fart", "Big words to Garth", "I think he has already told us indirectly that they're in the garden...", "What?", "Your mom told me your current smell is \"nothing is possible\"", "Uhhhh wtf are you doing", "Haha just a joke dude.", "I don't know who this fellow is, but he looks like he's got bodies all across the south.", "Christina 100% fucked Ted.", "Just tell us where the bodies are.", "They definitely think of mentally disabled people as less than them and no amount of humour can cover up their blatant ableism.", "Someone needs to bring up delias impression of garth\n\nIts double weird because of Delia has a messy time of it now", "Gurth Brooks. I appreciate that motherfucker.", "wut", "Those poor baristas." ]	77	videos	Garth Brooks Comment Section Explained
https://youtu.be/v2VAWU3mPts	/r/videos/comments/qcwqku/catch_me_by_kenna_feat_dj_miando_official_music/	[ "This is dogshit.", "You’re just mad because you don’t have the great editing skills that I have 👍🏼 have a blessed day hater 😊", "wow this is bad", "You’re only saying it’s bad just because you don’t have the amazing skills that I have. Money doesn’t buy skill and experience Thanks! Have a blessed day.", "For all the haters ready to bash, GO FUCK YOURSELF! 🖕🏼! I worked hard on this and put a lot of time and effort into it, something that you MF haters will never comprehend nor understand! For the genuine people who are not trolling little pieces of dog shit feel free to comment😊", "maybe pick a different hobby; you suck at this", "I'm glad I don't have your lack of editing skills, not a hater, just a realist." ]	7	videos	Catch Me By Kenna (Feat. DJ Miando) Official Music Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_tji_c86Bs	/r/videos/comments/qcwvst/marine_corps_veteran_disarms_suspect_in_attempted/	[ "Robber’s street cred just crashed", "Looks like the fucked with the wrong marine.", "Uh not sure that was the smartest move considering there was a 2nd guy there also with a gun", "The title could have just as easily been \"Idiot trys to grab a gun during a robbery and gets killed\".", "Dude is lucky he’s still alive. He didn’t even grab the gun, just knocked it out of his face. He could have easily been shot after this initial scrum. Good thing criminal #2 wasn’t packing.", "I understand the criticism of this guy but we also have to remember that “fight” is one of the standard panic responses. He may have acted out with aggression without even thinking about it—it was just instinct for him.\n\nIt shouldn’t be encouraged because yes, it’s stupidly dangerous, especially if it’s clear the perpetrator just wants money and isn’t looking to hurt anyone—It’s obviously best to just cooperate in that situation. But this might have been fear-driven instinct for him just like “fly,” “freeze,” or “faint” are instinct for others. \n\nI think this is probably doubly true for a Marine veteran who has been trained in combat and has probably drilled scenarios like this before. I wonder if he regrets it though because Jesus, this was dumb as shit.", "Yes. He's lucky. Let's get that out of the way.\n\nWe need more people that are willing to take risks in order for the rest of us to be able to walk into a gas station at 4am and feel safe. If the criminals have to think about customers not cowering that's fine by me.", ">If the criminals have to think about customers not cowering that's fine by me.\n\nHaving represented a number of people charged with committing these types of robberies, let me tell you that is not how most of them think.\n\nMost of these perpetrators are young adults or juveniles high on recreational drugs doing something mostly for the thrill of it and a lack of other ideas. A lot of them have been shot or shot at before, and they've almost all lost friends in robberies and street beefs. They often have been through pretty terrible shit at home, too. They're numb, high and nihilistic as fuck.\n\nMy point is, they are not in a stable state of mind when they walk into the store. If they're pointing a gun at someone, it's all raw adrenaline guiding their actions, and wisdom is not one of adrenaline's strengths. If someone looks at them weird or tries to resist they will just shoot at them. A trend of people resisting these types of robberies would not cause a reduction in robberies. They frighten easily and will run off if they sense that they no longer have the upper hand, but they also often mag-dump the gun at the same time, because that's what the cocktail of nihilism, percocet and adrenaline tells them is the best idea in the heat of the moment.", "Looking at their body language the criminal was scared as shit. Look how fucking out of it they are walking in. There's no sense of awareness because they've dissociated so much they don't even see the huge marine dude in front of him. No sense of holding their space.", "Nah.\n\nIt's a 50/50 chance when one of these kids hit a place. Might as well go down fighting than cowering. \n\nI was in one of these situations years ago. I noped right out the door. Next week I took my CCW class. I'm not big enough to fight back, at least I have an equalizer these days.", ">Nah. It's a 50/50 chance when one of these kids hit a place.\n\nNot here to invalidate your feelings about CCW. Being present during an incident like that can be life-changing even if you don't get assaulted. But what are you basing this particular part on?", "Haven't been around many marines have you? Most I know would not regret it in the slightest. They live for this shit.", "> I think this is probably doubly true for a Marine veteran who has been trained in combat and has probably drilled scenarios like this before. I wonder if he regrets it though because Jesus, this was dumb as shit.\n\nExactly right, training can take what would have previously been a \"flight\" or \"freeze\" response and turn it into a \"fight.\" Often the differences between these responses has to do with the subconsciousness ability to come up with valid responses to the event.", "You twitch the wrong way they'll take it out on you. \n\nI live in a nice safe neighborhood. Nice place, very safe and diverse. However, we're the first bus stop/gas station/walmart up the hill from what used to be referred as the 'Ghetto'. These places see a lot of desperate crimes. These are not always kids, nor are they always sane. I've seen car jackings, muggings, stupid acts of dumbness and good 'ol plain hate. \n\nThere's no reason, there's no stats. If you fight back you have a better chance of getting out. Looking like the wrong kind of person in these situations will have you singled out either way. I can't change how I look and I wouldn't anyhow. \n\nBest course of action was and remains getting a gun. Stand quietly and leave, at least I know I have the option of going out the way I want if things go bad.", "> There's no reason, there's no stats. If you fight back you have a better chance of getting out.\n\nThere's gotta be stats if you're going to say something that bombastic though. What you're saying about fighting back is either true or not true, and stats either bear it out or they don't. You can go down with a fight if you want, but don't kid yourself into thinking it heightens your chances of survival.", "There's lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics.", "Pro move to drop his keys to give him self a better chance to grab the gun", "scrum? tom is that you?", "God, pray our next generation doesn't face any adversity.", "Literally someone with more experience than you dealing with folks who commit these types of crimes and your first response is. \"nah\". God I fucking hate reddit sometimes.", "No,\n\nHe represents those people after they've rampaged through my neighborhood. He deals with them after they've been caught. I deal with them trying to buy a slurpee. \n\nGo back to lala land where everything is rainbows and unibrows.", "Lots of reddit armchair experts in here.", "The fuck are you talking about? You sound like you have a hard time being wrong. Hope your life works out as good as you want it to.", "There seems to be a third guy who only gets as far as the door before the second guy runs out. The marine has balls of steel no doubt but it's really fortunate that this ended the way it did.", "It wasn't aimed at him, the suspect had a very poor grip and stance, and the vet had a two hundred pound advantage against the suspect.", "This is the situation every marine I know hopes to be in. A one on one fight against an armed aggressor. I'll joke about Marines eating crayons and being stupid but I respect that they are trained to be bad ass superheroes in the right circumstances.", "The point that is being made here is that he didn't really make a decision. He didn't respond, he reacted. His fight or flight kicked in. Because of his training, rather than \"flight\" his reaction was \"fight.\"", "He saw an aggressor with a gun not looking at him or pointing the weapon at him. He also had a height and weight advantage to go with the trained ability to disarm the suspect. Once the suspect moved past him it was over.", "I've seen Marines in Afghanistan do a lot more dangerous shit than this. These were kids with guns, most combat vets would have done the same thing if presented with this same situation.", "Hi jeans", "Yes people should comply and do what they're told. Maybe the robber will not kill them.\n\nLearn to trust in the judgment of your robber, people!", "I have fight response to and it’s frustrating to explain that to others.", "Did he give him an ocular pat-down as well? I doubt thinking \"I have the weight advantage! And my reach is longer, so long as I exclude the range of that gun!\" was involved.", "I'd love to buy that guy some beer", "Totally true. Dropping a gun into the equation automatically produces a whole new set of possible outcomes and this absolutely—very easily and very quickly—could have gone differently. A quick scan of news stories anywhere in the country will impress with the wild, extravagant, and painful variations possible once a gun comes into the picture.\n\nIf there’s one thing that the behavioral sciences can tell us it is that we are very bad at predicting how we ourselves will act in a given situation, and even worse at predicting how others will act. Thinking that producing or facing a gun in an adversarial situation is likely to go one particular way—your way—rather than another is the temptation of an imagination better suited to fantasy than non-fiction.", "More info [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/marine-corps-veteran-disarms-suspect-in-attempted-robbery-in-yuma/ar-AAPLMaw](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/marine-corps-veteran-disarms-suspect-in-attempted-robbery-in-yuma/ar-AAPLMaw)Good guy !", "The gun wasn't pointed at him, but at the cashier. Dude is literally a trained soldier, he knows what he is doing.", "You will see the same thing said by experts when it’s on [Active Self Protection.](https://youtube.com/channel/UCsE_m2z1NrvF2ImeNWh84mw)", "What a coordinated attack from the Marine", "Wasn’t pointed at him? The dude had the gun on him from the second he walked in the door? He only directed to the cashier once he was a step or two in the store lol. Watch it again in slow-mo of you need to. \n\nHe might be trained sure, but he flubbed the disarmament, you can tell because it’s on video. \n\nHe went for the gun, but ended up hitting the robbers wrist, then had to revert to brute force to subdue him. \n\nHe’s lucky my dude.", "This has been your educational minute from \"numbers guy\".", "Right and theyre trained for this shit, what if the robber was going to shoot them after he robbed the store. He joined the marines to fight bad guys id assume. If the bad guys over seas tried some shit id assume the same response would be warranted.\n\nThey are trained to react. I don't think what he did was bad at all.\n\nIts also weird that the robber looked like he was just going to let him walk out of the store lol.\n\nAlso keep in mind I'm just some guy on the internet", "he didn't disarm him, and he could've been killed... that was stupid", "First time?", "Source that please", "Telling your god to pray is pretty arrogant.", "Evidently he was supposed to ask the person with the gun if his threat to kill people was serious before attempting to prevent him from killing people.", "And why wouldn’t we want our children to avoid hand to hand gun violence?", "That guy is just as cringy irl", "I don't recall making that statement. I meant more of a criticism of some weird praying for the next generation doesn't face any adversity sounds a bit sarcastic like jimmi is saying next generation is unfit to meet any adversity. Which is ridiculous and has been said by the old generation for time immemorial.", "Rex Kwondo", "Live your life the way you want but dying over at best a couple hundred in the till which would be covered by insurance anyway is fucking stupid.", "For fucks sake man. I was reading your comment and gaining wisdom and insights and then you drop the fact you’re just some guy on the internet?!", "reddit armchair monday morning quarterback review here:\n\n\nSlow mo shows the Marine missed grabbing the gun. Used his left hand, which is usually the weaker non-dominant hand. He could be a lefty, but was carrying a bag in the right suggests otherwise. Robber pulls the gun back down by his right side. He could have gotten shot there in the struggle. \n\nCan't blame the Marine for going for it, though, when he got the chance. Robber was using his other hand for holding his pants up, so the Marine probably got a really good punch or two in. Had to have hurt and probably dazed the robber I bet. The Marine used the element of surprise to his advantage and closed the distance quickly. He'd have been outnumbered if his accomplice didn't immediately NOPE out of there, which would have been disadvantageous. Marine probably took one look and saw that sideways aiming of the gun and said internally \"fuck this shit\" and went with the fight response over flight. Can't be surprise with that since he's a Devil Dog. \n(Just heard a lecture about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chosin_Reservoir and this seems like nothing in comparison) \n\nThe Marine played it cool for a second too, which was pretty smooth to catch the robber off-guard. All that said, this could have ended badly. Any idiot could start pulling the trigger when confronted and at that distance you don't need to be a marksman. Generally speaking, for most people (non-trained) this isn't a good idea. Robbers usually just want the money. Best to not get between it. Especially if it isn't yours.", "[Battle of Chosin Reservoir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chosin_Reservoir) \n \n >The Battle of Chosin Reservoir, also known as the Chosin Reservoir Campaign or the Battle of Lake Jangjin (Korean: 장진호 전투; Hanja: 長津湖戰鬪; RR: Jangjinho jeontu; MR: Changjinho chŏnt'u), was an important battle in the Korean War. The name \"Chosin\" is derived from the Japanese pronunciation \"Chōshin\", instead of the Korean pronunciation. The battle took place about a month after the People's Republic of China entered the conflict and sent the People's Volunteer Army (PVA) 9th Army to infiltrate the northeastern part of North Korea. On 27 November 1950, the Chinese force surprised the US X Corps commanded by Major General Edward Almond at the Chosin Reservoir area.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Trained to react. Did what he was supposed to do. He did a good job. Stop complaining.", "Hooah! Thank God this brave marine was there to risk his life to protect the sanctity of the $50 in the register. \n\nHis kids must be so proud he was willing to make their mom a widow to protect this hallowed 7-Eleven (a company that was $50 away from bankruptcy.) Neighborhood youths, you can stop crying, the local community center (7-Eleven), is no longer shutting down because of this one brave hero.", "I just read your name, lol", "What's it say?", "So nice to see some action from ordinary people.", "Lol", "the problem with videos like this, is that for every 1 of these videos, there are 10 more in which the marine gets brutally killed and those videos don't get released to the public", "3:10 to", "the problem with comments like this, is that for every one of these commends, there are 10 more in which the poster actually knows what he's talking about and those posts don't get released to the public", "People get killed in robberies, even after complying, all the time. He saved a person's life as well. Also, the blame should be on the criminal, even if the marine acted \"impulsively\" in your opinion." ]	68	videos	Marine Corps veteran disarms suspect in attempted robbery in Yuma
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KMtrY6lbjcY&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/qcwvxf/is_your_privacy_an_illusion_taking_on_big_tech/	[ "The Patriot Act: lol biiiiiiih", "Yes, that is addressed in this video, but honestly, it's a really interesting explanation of what's going on and the first of a series.", "LineageOS runs on phones from 2014 and stuff from 2020. The stable of 5G capable phones is growing. Your phone is loyal to you, not some big tech company.\n\n/e/OS has a similar privacy and security rating." ]	3	videos	Is Your Privacy An Illusion? (Taking on Big Tech) - Smarter Every Day 263
https://youtu.be/KMtrY6lbjcY	/r/videos/comments/qcx13j/is_your_privacy_an_illusion_taking_on_big_tech/	[ "I only partially care about my privacy being sold, of course I don’t want people watching me etc but what can we do? It’s to late. \n\nBut I do want things like the net to remain neutral.", "Here's the Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/4privacyapp/4privacy-app", "Nice ad.", "This app is an illusion of privacy when you look at the platforms they are supporting.", "Oof.\n\nI'm glad that Destin is getting on board with the erosion of privacy and that he's trying to communicate that to his audience. Overall, we need more of that. But there are two really important points missing from the video, and in the end, it's just another pitch to sell a new widget to people that papers over some fundamental problems.\n\nThere were people who were horrified at the reaction to 9/11, at the PATRIOT Act and so much of what happened at the time, and were vocally opposed to it. We got shouted down by people like Destin -- if not Destin himself, then at least people with whom he shared views. It's really important to address this head-on, because without a public reckoning over this, the next time some equally calamitous thing happens, another generation of people will demand that secret laws be written to keep us safe.\n\nThe biggest threat to privacy right now is not the government -- which, again, fits with Destin's personal political concerns -- but with advertising companies. The biggest services we interact with on the internet -- Facebook, Google, YouTube, Reddit -- are all advertising companies. Users want things for free, and they get it by being willing to be part of a vast advertising-based economy. Destin wants to publish videos for free, and he wants to get paid for his videos, and it's advertising that pays him, and advertising pays best when it knows as much as possible about viewers.\n\nSo it's disingenuous to paint this as a government problem when the much bigger problem is the digital advertising economy. And, any solution that doesn't offer an alternative is doomed to fail.", "It's definitely a multi-faceted problem. I don't think he painted it as a purely government problem. But I'm glad you watched regardless and I think it's good that bigger YouTubers are using their platforms for good towards speading awareness about these things.\n\nFirst it was Louis Rossman with Right to Repair followed by Linus and MKBHD, maybe this can cause a similar conversation among more popular YouTubers, and their viewers, about privacy and why/how it can be protected.\n\nI just thought it was worth sharing since I'd personally like a user friendly experience involving end-to-end encryption that's app agnostic and OS agnostic. This app may not be the one to do it. But I think that as a proof of concept, and proof of market demand, it can be somewhat valuable.", "Somewhat. Like, I don't want to just immediately shit on anyone's efforts on this subject. But, E2E encryption does nothing about the collection of data by major platforms. People want to use Facebook, or something like Facebook, and they want to watch videos, and they don't want to pay for the hosting or other infrastructure costs to do it. Other people want to be able to buy an audience or make a living by making videos without having to convince people to pay for it directly.\n\nThat's where the real erosion of privacy is happening. From a practical standpoint, the biggest risk to you and me right now is not coming from the government -- although there is risk there -- it's coming from the platforms that we use for communication and entertainment.\n\nFocusing on government surveillance kills the right-to-privacy movement because most people aren't afraid of what the government might do with their information, because it isn't affecting them in ways that they can perceive. Destin does a good job of trying to address this in his video, but he's only repeating a conversation that has played out millions of times already and the end result has always been the same: nobody's worried.\n\nWhere people do get a little less comfortable is when companies get involved, and when the full extent of data collection practices is described. There's been a [recurring story about the technology that department stores use to physically track the cell phones of their shoppers](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=department+stores+tracking+cell+phones) for over 10 years now. Inevitably, some new reporting on this issue happens, some store in particular maybe gets mentioned (Nordstrom) and decides to stop the practice, temporarily, until they find a better solution. That kind of messaging is effective.\n\n\"The government can snoop on you\" is not.", "That's a great point. I guess Apples integrated privacy features on iOS do what I'm looking for to some extent. But I'm still trusting Apple which is less than ideal. \n\nIt's hard to picture a future without tracking now that it's how I mainly interact with a free internet. Not sure if I'd want to pay for \"privacy\" across all apps, but as a consumer it would be nice to have a paid feature to turn off tracking. \n\nBut I assume that would get pushback as well since it's classist tbh. Plenty of internet users wouldn't be able to afford to take advantage of something like that. Which would lead to the question of: \"Is privacy a basic human right?\" Which is an interesting debate. This whole thing is pretty wild", "The video fails to address why users should care about privacy too.\n\nLots of people think 'I've got nothing to hide', and it can be hard to argue against that of they truly don't care about privacy.", "Good point. People talk about how great bitcoin is because it prevents governments from controlling us. But in the greater scheme of things I actually like the government. I'm worried about corporations and individuals. That said I don't want either of them able to see my data and I'm glad we see some movement towards people being able to control their own data.", "The thing is we don't need YouTube to have free videos. Google is just middle manning they don't actually provide a service. If we all got together and sold our data directly to advertisers we could use the profit to pay for advertising, essentially Googles exact business model except we've cut out the middle man. Yes we are still selling our data and that might not be a good thing, but at least Google doesn't get to skim profits off data that should be ours to sell. I wouldn't be surprised if after paying for hosting costs there was leftover money that could be mailed out as checks to everyone.", "It's important to note that was the first video in a series. Hopefully the series goes on to flesh this product out more. \n\nRight now it feels like an encrypted messenger w/ encrypted cloud storage, like Signal meets Nord. \n\nHowever in the video he kind of hinted at a lot of 3rd party integration. If this goes more in the direction of a protocol or platform vs just an app, I think it has a chance, with lots of correct design decisions, to be something. \n\nHolding off on funding for now because I'm not really sure what it is. And I'm not sure they're sure yet either, which is OK, I guess.\n\nEither way the kickstarter is already way over the goal.", "\"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.\" -- Snowden", "if you use facebook you don't give a shit about your privacy.\n\nnot so much the blunders of the company itself...but the amount of shit people post on it that they should not that everyone can see.", "\"Bitcoin is about avoiding the fed to control you\" or something -- also snowden.", "> the biggest risk is coming from the platforms that we use for communication and entertainment.\n\nA risk of what?\n\n> because most people aren't afraid of what the government might do with their information, because it isn't affecting them in ways that they can perceive.\n\nThat's not how bars should be set.. Also, global surveillance isn't possible anymore today when most of the web is over TLS. \n\n> There's been a recurring story about the technology that department stores use to physically track the cell phones of their shoppers for over 10 years now\n\nMAC addresses are being randomized since half a decade, and bluetooth beacons seems either to just help you with geolocation, or at least require a trojan app on your phone to track you. \n\n> That kind of messaging is effective.\n\nIt's also bullshit. \n\nNot because they couldn't be true at the time of writing (even though a recurrent theme is that they are written by people with little technical understanding), but in the sense that it's hard to cry wolf when the US privacy laws are possibly a laughing stock even for chinese people. \n\nIn this very sense it's a government problem. \n\nBut that's in turn a problem of the voting population: nobody gives enough of a damn." ]	16	videos	Is Your Privacy An Illusion? 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https://twitter.com/laautonomica/status/1450794754896187397	/r/videos/comments/qcxauz/policeman_in_la_palma_fighting_the_wind_and/	[ "John Constantine in hell vibes", "Wind is the movements of hot air in the surface.", "Enemy stand user is nearby" ]	3	videos	Policeman in La Palma fighting the wind and stones, while trying to take measurements near the active volcano. This phenomena occurs due to the fast movements of hot air in the surface
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qcyve1/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qcyve1/deleted_by_user/	[ "It's missing the daily snaps of parties, concerts, and close ups of whatever drug they happen to be addicted to.", "damn, I knew I was forgetting something. although I’m pretty sure I don’t look like the kind of person getting invited to actual parties very often hahaha", "You owe me 1:14 of my life back", "Does he paint his teeth yellow?" ]	4	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qcyzy1/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qcyzy1/deleted_by_user/	[ "Looks decent, but there's no way I'm giving Mel Gibson a $1 of my money.", "He'll survive", "weird. Mel Gibson giving me Jack Nicholson vibes and Evil Elon Musk as the bad guy.", "Who the fuck is hiring that crusty old racist pos?", "Why does it look like every single actor in this trailer was phoning it in?", "You have no problem watching a good person play a bad person in a movie and getting paid for it. So what if a bad person plays a good person in a movie and gets paid for it. You're watching the acting.", "It’s more of a moral thing for me. I don’t support antisemitism" ]	7	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2HzHSeV9v8&t=24s	/r/videos/comments/qczgl0/perhaps_the_most_elegant_considerations_in/	[ "Honestly, making sure the billionaires aren't the only players is reason enough.\n\nI loved West Wing. Watching it now is just sad. It was always idealistic, but at a time when the hope seemed less pointless.", "I despise Jeff Bezos as much as the next middle class american- but this is how new technology always works. It's always available to the wealthy before it's open to the rest of us.\n\nCars. Refrigerators. Airplanes. Air Conditioning. Television. All once the trappings of only the wealthiest who could afford them. And yes, I want NASA to get 3x or 4x the budget it has now. But commercial space flights for civilians would never be their priority.", "Idk he literally just said \"People are realizing we're economically superior because we exploit and bomb them into submission and we need a distraction for them that's good PR.\"", "To be fair, we learned all that from Betty White.", "It didn't work that way in the first space race. We got all sorts of public benefit. Velcro, Tang, the... other stuff. Different times, I guess.", "Doesn't have to be if we change the way technology is thought up, tested, and produced. That requires however, a radical change in our society.\n\nAlso West Wing is still an amazing series from beginning to... well almost the end(last 2 seasons are genuinely pretty meh.)", "[Dark was the night](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8AuYmID4wc) by [Blind Willie Johnson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_Willie_Johnson).\n\nAmazing...", "[Blind Willie Johnson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_Willie_Johnson) \n \n >Blind Willie Johnson (January 25, 1897 – September 18, 1945) was an American gospel blues singer, guitarist and evangelist. His landmark recordings completed between 1927 and 1930—thirty songs in total—display a combination of powerful \"chest voice\" singing, slide guitar skills, and originality that has influenced generations of musicians. Even though Johnson's records sold well, as a street performer and preacher, he had little wealth in his lifetime. His life was poorly documented, but over time, music historians such as Samuel Charters have uncovered more about Johnson and his five recording sessions.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Uniting the world is enough. In the midst of the coldwar everyone eveywhere stopped, held their collective breath, and watched in awed silence as we the first man set foot on the moon. Afterwards came the politics, the grandstanding, the hurrahs for America. But in that moment it wasn't about any country. It was about humanity reaching for the stars. In that moment, brief and fleeting, we understood that we are one species, one planet. Chasing that makes space exploration worth it. It will never be lasting. If at some point space travel becomes common we will likely grow even more divided. But if the journey to that place can give us even a brief era of unity it will have been worth it." ]	9	videos	Perhaps the most elegant considerations in support of America's Space Program- by Josh Lyman on West Wing.
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qczmy8/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qczmy8/deleted_by_user/	[ "4th generation native californian. that grass is brown", "golden", "How can I be as fit as this man at his age? Can we get a routine?", "He on TRT and used to be on steroids, plus he exercizes a lot. He has a whole website and is a long time fitness youtuber. \n\nhttps://scoobysworkshop.com/", "Ahh damn I should have known steroid were involved.", "Less a 'guide' and more a list of things he demands you think and say.", "Where else would a super tan, 60 year-old fitness buff with a bike helmet, spandex shorts and no shirt be from? LOL!\n\nHis video is about California misconceptions, but he's just one big stereotype." ]	7	videos	[deleted by user]
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XIJvoC8k6eo	/r/videos/comments/qczuqx/mrbeast_talks_lucid_dreams_juice_wrld_doug/	[ "I never got the appeal of saying what a celebrity does or doesn’t do, they’re just random people as far as I’m concerned and it really doesn’t make the thing any better or worse", "I do everything MrBeast does. Which may be why I’m homeless.", "I assume juice world is the owner of some kind of hipster bar" ]	3	videos	MrBeast Talks Lucid Dreams (Juice WRLD, Doug Stanhope, MrBeast) 3 Celebrities that Lucid Dream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oMXZhhEnjk	/r/videos/comments/qd055v/we_intentionally_go_for_lofi_videos_no_mainstream/	[ "I don't know what you call \"poor lighting condtitions\". If really poor, the result is good. It seems the close-ups were zoomed. 4:12 great lipstick make-up tutorial :))", "[ Jump to 04:12 @ &Tilly - Easy Way Out [Official Music Video]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oMXZhhEnjk&t=0h4m12s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: &Tilly, Video Popularity: 100.00%, Video Length: [06:24])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@04:07](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oMXZhhEnjk&t=0h4m7s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "I liked the turtle part", "I think it would not be perceived positively, you should distort it and add effects. It does not seem intentionally lo-fi for artistic purposes, just seems like someone recorded it with a cheap camera. I think people generally don't like looking at non-HD videos. Is there a way to add effects and upscale it so its HD, even if distortion or wierdness results?" ]	4	videos	We intentionally go for lofi videos, no mainstream. We tested the new iPhone 13 Pro here, poor lighting condtitions. Disapointed with the record quality (noisy, 4K & HDR for no gain). Could the resulting production quality be perceived positively or should we distort it more if unable to do better?
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qd12ir/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qd12ir/deleted_by_user/	[ "The Queen of Wien", "Apparently according to the The National Hot Dog and Sausage Council you’re not meant to have ketchup on your hotdog if you’re older than 18.", "so not as gross as people made them out to be ;-)", "Big Wiener propaganda.", "I was always told hot dogs were made with everything but the oink…." ]	5	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qd13p0/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qd13p0/deleted_by_user/	[ "You left right as a better song was coming", "I would’ve loved to stay there all day and listen to his beautiful violin skills, but I had to be home also. I’m happy with what I’ve recorded though", "It doesn’t really look like he’s actually playing. Watch at around the 2 minute mark and the music and his strokes don’t match up at all. Sort of looks like he’s playing a recording and pretending to slay it in the violin.", "Milli Vanill-olin. That man is not playing that violin.", "He's not actually playing. This is a pretty well-documented scam.", "The plot thickens…", "You gotta jump scare them so the music keeps playing to prove they're faking it.", "There’s no way I would’ve been brave enough to do that lol", "These guys cropped up at several supermarkets near me for a couple weeks this summer. There were at least three of them who all popped up and then left town at about the same time. \n\nIt's a con.", "I can’t believe I posted recorded and posted something I thought was nice, but ended up accidentally uncovering a scam/conspiracy \n\nThat’s insane" ]	10	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzhREYOK0oo	/r/videos/comments/qd16eu/jetson_one_official_launch_all_electric_vtol/	[ "Me want!", "What we need is a 1 hour flight time 30 mins doesn’t cut it", "Nice hype video, but can I see the damn thing actually take off and land?", "Exactly. Let's see the actual VTOL for crying outloud!", "I like the name but like all the other rideable drones I think flight time is the limiting fact of a practical \"flying car\".", "That definitely needs some prop guards if it's to be a real product. Otherwise it's a matter of time before some messy accidents.", "I generally subscribe to the belief that if a business has something to show off, they will. If they're not showing off cool shots of that thing smoothly landing down, or taking off, it's for a good reason. Wouldn't be surprised if a combination of the ground and the air those rotors are pushing is causing instability when they're close to the ground, as it can happen to helicopters as well. Obviously just a guess, I don't know for sure.\n\nI just question why a business wouldn't want to show something off if they could. Obviously certain circumstances do occur where they wouldn't want to, but a lot of the time it's simply because it doesn't work yet, or work well enough to be on camera.", "It's basically a big drone innit. Still want one though...", "And maybe some skids underneath with shock absorberss so your neck doesn't just immediately snap if the thing fails on takeoff a few feet above the ground.", "[Article explaining the specifics](https://themagazineplus.com/2021/10/21/jetson-one-launches-a-personal-electric-aerial-vehical-that-anyone-can-fly/). \n\nApparently, they're selling this unit, as it is. Pre-orders have already sold out for 2022, and they're accepting orders into 2023 now.\n\nIf you're wondering what the catch is, battery lasts 20min. There ya go.", "That thing is probably insanely loud for the pilot.", "Good thing we have that roll cage to protect us from a crash, and then have parts of the blades decapitate you", "I’ll be getting one to finally enter the race on Tatooine.", "These things have a very short range the batteries die fast.", "Only 100K...", "Personally, no looking forward to idiots in cars becoming idiots in drones...", "Looks like a shitload of fun... Until you realize advertised battery life is 20 minutes, in reality probably a lot less than that.", "Advertised is 20 minutes, I wouldn't be surprised if actual is even less... It does look like a shitload of fun but I would like to be able to do this without having to worry about battery", "Here's an exhaustive list of use cases of a drone that can carry a person:\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n ", "From the video it looks like they're making use of the ground effect, which could let them squeeze out a bit more flight time.", "Came here to confirm this. A lot of the videos for eVTOL aircraft don’t let you hear what the vehicle sounds like because it’s awful haha", "Fun.", "And its probably crazy loud.", "You know what I want? 4 extremely high rpm blades spinning right in line with my neck!", "Could you theoretically put some kind of a booster on this, like a miniaturized jet engine?", "Aerial cinematography in tight quarters, with heavier cameras than a heavy lift drone can handle, but in situations a full sized helicopter wouldn’t be safe or practical. Following a car just over the road, then flying out and up. But if you need to do that with a heavy camera. The difference is this, a drone can carry about 50lbs of camera maximum, and that’s plenty, but the stabilizing tech in them isn’t as good as what a full sized Shotover system can be. The bigger ones on motion picture helicopters. \n\nThis could be interesting, because if you can get a very small and light pilot, a smaller Shotover may be an option here. It looks like it has less rotor wash, and is physically smaller. \n\nInteresting.", "> causing instability when they're close to the ground\n\nThis is called prop wash", "Or even better, the rpm's, power draw, and projected flight time at different speeds.", "The classic line of need power to lift, need more ways to create power, those ways increase weigh, which continues to make the original problem worse.\n\nI have high hopes for the inventor of the super soaker, who's been working solid state batteries for the past 30 years.\n\nOtherwise we got about 50 years to weight for the small possibility that we'll figure out fusion, and how to miniaturize a reactor.", "My biggest qualm about a human sized quadcopter is that if you suddenly lose power, you’ll fall straight to the ground. At least airplanes and helicopters can glide relatively safely back to earth.", "Imagine hitting a bird.", "Anikan! Get down!", "Ground Effect in rotorcraft.", "$5 says a Canada Goose would come out on top.", "After hitting those blades, he'd come out on top, bottom, the sides, and a little bit of everywhere else.", "Only if the pilot is miked up and agrees to say \"JANE! STOP THIS CRAZY THING!\" if something goes wrong.", "20 mins is really good for the current battery technology. Right now we've got everything there tech wise, batteries still suck tho. By suck I mean kWh/lb needs to be improved. It's fine for a car but thats why Tesla's are insanely heavy.", "Prop wash is when you are flying into your own turbulence. So you're actually getting both when landing, prop wash and ground effect. You're both right.", "it has a parachute for this reason. Similar used on other designed personal aviation aircraft.", "Ground Effect is the name of the aerodynamic efficiency you achieve close to the ground (all aircraft) while wash is the outflow that (negatively) effects others. Airplanes have ground effect, too, I should have been more clear. But we’re talking about VTOL here.", "Yup that's exactly what I was saying. If you decend too fast straight down you get prop wash and then once you are close enough to the ground you get ground effect.", "Missed opportunity to get the Jetsons theme song integrated into the background noise", "I mean not quite, it’s called Vortex Ring State or Settling With Power. But yeah we’re probably agreeing more than disagreeing 👍 have a good one.", "Let's see...\n\n* Extremely short flight time? CHECK (20 min)\n* Unattainable price for vast majority of people? CHECK ($92,000 USD)\n* Completely impractical? CHECK\n* Unknown maximum occupant weight? CHECK(my guess is no fatties allowed)\n\nWon't actually be able to fly it \"anywhere\" because Aviation Regulations are a thing and I highly doubt they are evolved enough to cover personal VTOL aircraft flying around and landing in your back yard. Not to say that COULDN'T happen, but legislation takes a long ass time.\n\nNot to mention anyone wanting to fly this will likely need at least a recreational pilot's license - approximately $5000\n\nDon't get me wrong, this thing is cool AF and if I were rich I would definitely buy one since I have my pilot's license, but the statements:\n\n\"Our mission is to make the skies available for everyone with our safe personal electric aerial vehicle.\" and\n\n\"Are you ready to experience a completely new and exciting way of travel?\"\n\nare not at all true with this model. Experience a new way to travel? Yeah, if your destination is within 20 minutes, and you can actually legally fly and land there.\n\nAvailable to everyone? Yeah, if you're rich.", "In the drone world we call it prop wash, but yes I think we are talking about the same thing!", "There are actually 8 because there are 2 props on each pedestal/motor mount.", "Pilot here. Fuck no.", "20 minute battery life. But let's think about this. How close are you willing to let the flying thing you're sitting in get to \"out of battery\" before you don't feel safe anymore? 5 minutes? Is it a cold day? That may not be 5 minutes anymore.\n\nProbably more like 10 minutes of actual flight time. Did you bring a generator on you're little excursion? Cause if not, hope you enjoyed towing that trailer for 10 minutes of fun. But, I suppose the fact you bought it already says you have more money than sense.", "The fuck, you are so wrong.", "For some reason I'm picturing it crash landing in a watermelon field in super-slow motion. Would look epic.", "There is no comparison in stability between a shot over and a Drone dragging a MOVI in the air. Especially at speed.", "What a horrible video lmao.", "remember that video of the magnetic levitation that locked the monorail in place? why dont we do that with these things, and just have tracks all around the city", "Is it really that hard to make one of these such that the props are not in-line with the passenger? I know it's probably screwed anyway if a bird hits a prop but at least the shattered blade pieces won't make it a closed casket funeral.", "Drone just means autonomous. The stability has nothing to do with whether or not it's autonomous, or multi rotor vs helicopter, etc. \n\nSure, bigger gimbals can be better than smaller ones. But your comment is nonsensical because a manned quadcopter like this one has nothing to do with cinema and it would not be difficult to make a heavy lift drone capable of flying a full shotover heli gimbal.", "I think this VTOL has an interesting concept https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz7SQ1nb4HQ", "Pretty good price for what is effectively a big ass drone. And that’s carrying a ~75kg payload. Which is a human.", "My guess is the added weight would require bigger props which would fuck up the image they're going for with the small form factor. Accepting lack of safety just to look cool is going to end badly I presume.", "I would assume the challenge is that if you put the blades below the pilot, you end up with an unstable ride because the center of gravity is too high.\n\nPutting the blades above the pilot could work, but would lower the center of gravity in a way that would drastically reduce the maneuverability of the craft (since it would be more difficult for the craft to lean).\n\nPutting the blades above the craft would also affect your ability to have an emergency chute pop out of the top.\n\nThis type of craft isn’t new, by any stretch of the imagination.\n\nGoogle the Moller Skycar, if you get a chance", "The only animal in the animal kingdom that wants anything to do with Canada Gooses is Canada Mooses", "Double the fun!!", "There is definitely a dead zone there where you're too high to survive the fall but too low for the parachute to do anything. Definitely super sketchy.", "I am, ill wait a year so they all kill themselves, then itll be free skys all around", "Should be close to their prototype (annoying as expected):\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUgKyNm5X24", "Personal transportion for one person in an area with a lot of ground traffic? Transportation in any sort of environment where roads and ground vehicles aren’t ideal?\n\nThose are two incredibly obvious ones that have very large use cases. There’s a littany of reasons why this may not be practical in reality, but not having a use is the last thing I would worry about.", "just gotta fly over 1000 ft at all times. sounds really safe.", "It's so crazy to me how any of these companies get people to invest any amount of money when they just literally can't ever be a thing. You have to have a secondary method to generate (at least some) lift in the event of losing main engine power. EVERY other form of air craft has that.", "I don't know too much about rotorcraft, but isn't ground effect only strong within a height of between half and one rotor diameter? In this case, the actual blades would need to be within a couple of feet of the ground.", "In addition to all of the many problems mentioned here, it also looks very hard to fly. It seems so shaky.", "Parachute won't do shit if you're say 20m off the ground.", "Ya I suspect they are only flying that low because they dont trust the thing in a crash or not to crash. It has an aluminum roll cage, that's not gunna save you from anything higher than a short drop. That's saying something when their test pilots dont really fly it.", "Okay cool, but how safe is it for a passenger if it crashes during normal/optimal operation? Over different terrains? In urban environments with physical obstacles/hazards? The thing is just a frame without and protective panels or coverings on any side. Sky motorcycle? If a single rotor fails that thing is fucked right out of the air.\n\nThis is just a bunch more silicon valley hot-out-the-incubator bullshit", "?", "It looks like this has multiple motors and props. Would it still need a backup if it has an acceptable descent rate with one or more failed motors?", "Your name checks out", "man, nothing sounds more fun then sitting inbetween 4 spinning knives. At least I got a helmet.", "Does it get out of ground effect? or are you stuck at 6m max altitude?", "That's a lot of liquid nitrogen to keep on hand at all times.", "Having multiple rotors and engines only introduces more points of failure AND the more rotors you have (and the smaller they are), the less autorotation lift is generated in case of a power failure. That's why a helicopter (which already exists and can at least produce some lift without power) only has one large rotor. Besides that, I'd imagine this thing only has one battery. You can't have an aircraft where if it runs out of fuel it drops like a rock. A battery is even more dangerous as it could have a failure at any point (as opposed to running out of fuel).", "Helicopters have the same envelope where they can't autorotate safely to the ground. They avoid these areas. It's like you never see them lift straight up for a while. This is dangerous. They don't have enough forward momentum and energy to autorotate.\n\nIt's called the Helicopter velocity/height diagram. Or H/V Curve. Or deadman's curve.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter_height%E2%80%93velocity_diagram\n\n\nEdit: I think this vehicle's curve would be about 5ft above the ground while going 5 mph.", "The solution is fuel cells.", "A helicopter can not glide to earth unless you consider dropping like a rock, gliding.", "Those are super dangerous and I dont think they have the amp output needed to lift 200lbs. We've used motors at my work about the size these guys are using and it pulls 200 amps at 55v from one motor. They got 8, pretty sure nothing except a lipo or a gigantic lion can do that.", "After watching the homemade helicopter guy in India, no thanks.", "me 2 years ago on r/lightbulb \"A drone you can fly in!!\"\n\nTop comment: \"So... A helicopter?\"", "They need some safety rings around those props. Flight is dangerous enough as it is", "uh... speak for yourself", "Not all fuel cells are dangerous. And it's not for the engines it's to charge the batteries.", "um it's \"Geese\" and \"Meese\" thank you", "Lion powered aircraft. I like it.", "Looks like alot of fun...for jockeys and those that don't want to fly more than ~~15~~ 20 minutes", "God I can't wait 'til this thing is real in like 40 years but then no one gets to have one because we're all dead except the Bezoids who live on Prime Am'zun alt Terra in the sky realm (but joke's on them because they are actually decedents of AERisxuS//-TYSLKt, second spawn of Elon Mask, the AI who took over Elon Musk's shell in 2031, \\[also like a total bunch of dweebs\\])", "For those wondering it has a 20 minute flight time.\nhttps://www.jetsonaero.com/", "How the hell can a helicopter glide? They are death machines for a reason.", "Wow only $92,000 USD. What a steal", "You theoretically could but I think that would make it more dangerous, harder to control and less efficient. I believe jet and or turbine engines like to go real fast. \nTLDR no", "They are..?", "I thought it was gonna take off straight up when the beat dropped XD", "They don't at all operate under the same principles. Quadcopters / Drones / whatever this thing is all use multiple rotors and varying speeds to act as \"flight controls\", because it has 4/8/16/32/whatever blades on a Drone/Quad/This, they vary their speed of individual motors to change direction/lift//speed. (this is why people in this thread are commenting that it's sketchy as fuck because it has no control surfaces or method of generating lift if those motors go down)\n\nHelicopters have a single rotor which pitches the blades to create lift and control. (tail rotor factors in here as well, but for the sake of keeping it basic let's ignore it.)\n\nIf a Helicopter loses power it can technically still \"land\" given it has the altitude and speed to \"auto-rotate\" the blades. You can (normally) still give them control input to land. It's not a landing any helicopter pilot wants to do, but it's possible.\n\nQuadcopters and things like this however, losing a motor can be a serious issue for a ton of reasons. You're losing power AND control efficiency. In some kitted out drone people use to take videos/pics with, it isn't really a big deal if it rapidly plops to the ground or you oopsie it into a tree/house/etc. This thing and any other Quad that is carrying a person however just lost part of it's weight bearing capacity AND it's flight characteristics/controls.\n\nI've spent a lot of years flying RC Planes and Helis to have seen countless failures at various fields from everything like a ParkZone $400 kit to $20,000 custom build jets. It happens all the time and you couldn't pay me to trust my life to something like this, much less get me to pay $100k for the experience.", "Only a matter of time before some oil rich kid buys one and crashes into a crowd and dismembers half of them.", "They get this thing up to a one hour flight time at a steady 50 kph and I will gladly use it for my daily commute vehicle.", "Ugh, shoot that drone operator.", "Basically like the quadcopter of ATVs. I can see why a decent number of people would want one.\n\nAlso probably the military cause it looks cool and \"stealth or something, I dunno we got the budget go get some damnit!\"", "So is this bring announced cause they're going public through a reverse merge with a SPAC soon?", "Why not an air bag for the bottom. Instead of crashing you bounce like a hippity hop.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTqu9iMiPIU", "Huh. I didn't realize auto rotation was mostly absorbing forward velocity until your post. I figured fall speed would overtake velocity quicker than it does.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTqu9iMiPIU to go a bit more into what /u/failuretoreport said", "An [aluminum-air battery](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium%E2%80%93air_battery) has great energy density. Can power a car for 1000+ miles. They already exist (maybe not on the market but they have built them).\n\nUnfortunately, you cannot recharge it so need to replace the battery. It's not as bad as it sounds but still a hurdle and not great. However, for this use it might make sense.\n\n- https://youtu.be/xtlwVMASbWQ", "This area needs to be relatively flat, the flight time up to 20 minutes, the one person that needs to be transported should also be the pilot, be light and no carry any equipment. You can use another vehicle in almost any area, a jet ski in sea, or an ATV in the dessert.", "\"Autorotation\"", "Worst. Editing. Ever.", "Exactly. Yet another company trying to turn a toy into an actual human-carrying aircraft. Makes me wonder if these companies have any real pilots or serious aviation engineers working in them.", "What powers the fuel cells? Hydrogen? What do you store it in? Big heavy tanks? That's your solution?", "My qualm is the unshrouded aerial decapitators on each corner.", "How is something less than $100k unattainable? That's less than some luxury cars off the lot", "You can buy a Piper Cub for less than $50,000.", "No surprise that there is no sound to this video. As one of the reasons this type of vehicle has been previously impractical, other than the disturbance to the ground below, is that it would cause an intolerable amount of noise pollution.", "WHIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRZZRRRRRRRRZZZEEEEEEEE", "If you think this is really cool, but you're not thrilled about the 100k price tag, then check out paramotors. They're very similar, but a lot cheaper.", "Guy back in coach class here. You guys gonna take off any time soon, or are we staying on the tarmac?", "Sort of. Prop wash generally refers to the air the rotors move, it can interact with other aircraft, the same aircraft, or nothing (if flying high). Doesn't really matter what aircraft does it, it just describes the air pushed by a propeller (or rotor). When you're close to the ground, due to prop wash, the air can enter what's called a vortex ring state, where the air moves in a vortex, engulfing the rotor and causing a loss of lift.\n\n>Prop wash: The force or wind generated behind a propellor, particularly on or before take-off when high/full power is set, but also when the aircraft is taxiing.\n\n>Vortex Ring State: The vortex ring state (VRS) is a dangerous aerodynamic condition that may arise in helicopter flight, when a vortex ring system engulfs the rotor causing severe loss of lift.", "I am sure the military has had them for years and after all this time we are now seeing them being introduced to the public.", "There's no situation using this you even get s use for a parachute.\n\nYou have 20 minutes of flight. If you ever need it, it's because you deliberately rise to a safe parachuting height, knowing the thing can't actually get down safely and you'll have to bail out.", "if these things become as commercially popular as cars, that could be a huge motivator for people to lose some weight!", "I read somewhere that this counts as a drone so no license. This probably needs a licence? But yea its expensive as fuck", "awesome. now lets talk about drunk drivers, speed maniacs and terrorists", "These are going to be outlawed as soon as they exit that desert. \n\nThere's no room in society or nature for these literal noise-machines. They're unbelievably loud. \n\nThe future of aerial short-range transportation is railgun and parachute, sooner than this shit. It's cool, but entirely impractical.", "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ5vTRE4DLQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ5vTRE4DLQ)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nFlying Cars Will Never Be A Thing, Here's Why - Adam Something", "You’re not gunna get too hurt from that height with the right safety features. Formula 1 drivers crash into a barrier at 200km/h and get out of the car 30 seconds later.", "Ooh ya right Lisa... A wonderful MAGICAL power source...", "Video of the prototype:\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoFQ1NTwy04](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoFQ1NTwy04)\n\nIt basically looks like a giant drone that you sit in.", "You have a good chance to break your back if you crash from that height.\n\nI would feel much more safe flying 100m over ground with an emergency parachute.", "The stick off to the side on and angle is what I would have concerns with. I have a gliders license too, and have flown in some super tiny one seaters, but this thing takes the cake.\n\nThere has to be some way to better position the controls. Straight and level flight with the stick position off of 90 is just asking for trouble.", "Sorry, can you link me a cheaper personal helicopter?", "Man I hate these videos. Nice drone shots and all but boring as hell when you want to know some facts, specifications and as you say, see it doing the tricky stuff. Yeah I know its supposed to drive traffic to their site but really it just looks like all the drone shots top and tailed with some generic 'man-tech' music. We get it, it flies.", "Honestly most of it looked like CGI to me.", "the other thing it would need is an autorotation feature, but i think how the blades are set up doesn't allow this effect. \n\nPart of the cheapness of drones compared to typical aircraft is the motor speed controls manoeuvrability, where as a typical helicopter you can change the pitch on the blades via a complex (and expensive) collective while the blade speed is pretty constant.", "not impressed", "We talkin' Murdock crazy or that old guy from Independence Day crazy?", "> Also probably the military cause it looks cool and \"stealth or something\n\nHave you heard a drone?", "Google autorotation", "Yes, energy density in batteries hinders a lot of technologies. \n\nIn the Tesla's, they use lithium-iron-phosphate (LFP) for standard range cars and nickel-cobalt-aluminum for its longer-range vehicles.", "The joke was he wouldn't make the \\~75kg payload... How much is a Chinook?", "Ah, thought he was saying the price was not “pretty good”", "F1 cars also have hundreds of millions of dollars poured into them.", "Surprised at the absence of propeller protectors: the first thing I thought when I saw the \"between trees\" segment of the clip is \"would a less well trained pilot manage not to hit any branches with the props?\".", "Interestingly the video is silent except for music.", "The battery is the catch?\n\nI thought it was the fact that it's like a helicopter without the ability to auto rotate when an engine fails.", "Stealth doesn't mean nobody will see or hear it. Stealth (for aircraft) means nobody very far away will see or hear it. Plenty of aircraft are considered low profile (B2 bombers, MH6 Helicopter, even some C130 variants) because they can fly low, and are quiet enough that people a mile away won't necessarily hear it.", "Have your heard an F35?", ">all up weight 90kg/198lbs \n> \n>Empty weight 40kg / 88lbs\n\nDoest this mean that the pilot can weight 50kg/110lbs?", "surely you could deploy an explosive parachute with compressed gas.", "What a terrible product…\n\nThis throws up more safety and operational questions than anything.\n\nAre you small, weigh very little, have a spare desert and are indifferent about living on? Boy do we have something for you!", "\"Honey, I gotta go to 'work' today filming that commercial, don't wait up.\"", "Which is why the military discontinued drone use", "Fuck that bullshit music, play the loud ass noise these things probably make.", "They atleast did work some on safety. Two backup motor controllers, is able to fly with 1 rotor failure and has a parachute.", "And decades of development.", "Okay I guess I will leave the only positive comment. My current daily commute takes 20 minutes via car. I imagine a direct flight in this would take maybe 5 minutes. That's enough juice to get to work and back home. Would be a very fun way to commute. Driving through 8+ intersections is probably just as risky.", "Hydrogen may not be the solution but at the moment liquid fuel (gas, kerosine, diesel, hydrogen, etc) is so many more times energy dense than our current battery technology. Until we make our batteries lighter, liquid fuel will continue to be much more energy dense to the point where its impractical for things like flight.", "Kerosene is still 1.5x as energy dense as an aluminum-air battery, so its not really a great solution considering the huge downsides.", "I don't trust most motherfuckers to navigate in 2d. I hope this never takes off (pun) as a tech.", "What's the top speed?", "You can hear a regular-ass drone a mile away.", "What happens if I put my arms through the window ????", "Only a matter of time until theyre on Banggood for a fraction of that, maybe stay away from the Wish offering", "https://www.globalplanesearch.com/helicopters/piston/bell/47.htm", "It does have motor redundancy according to the manufacturer. How save exactly are airplanes in crash situations? With all the Kerosine? Would \"protective panels\" help much? For \"Silicon Valley bullshit\" this thing seems to fly pretty well. As opposed to anything else I've seen in that direction so far.", "Also- let me hear it.", "I think I'd rather have an ornithopter. :-D", "Robinson R22 second hand comes into this price range (fun to fly and 2 seats, had a couple of hours fly time in these). Alternatively there’s the helicycle diy kit at about 67k or the composite fx xe at about 50k so you could get 2 of these. \n \nhttps://helicycleventures.com/pricing/ \n\nhttps://composite-fx.com/models/xe/", "how can it run on 3 rotors? I'm seeing three points of thrust and a center of gravity that's outside of that triangle, which just seems intuitively like an unstable situation.", "You can't. You don't have to go more than 50m elevation on a small drone and you can't hear shit. 100m for a bigger one. Any wind and it's even less as the sound gets more diffused.\n\nSource: me flying my Mavic.", "the airflow spins the rotors which create enough lift to slow the descent enough for a landing", "With these small rotors and low momentum of the electric motors+rotors the autorotation would be useless.\n\nIt looks like this has 8 motors so in case of a motor failure the other motors will have to generate some extra lift to land safely. For performance reasons I can't imagine that they're running at more than 60% of nominal power to maintain level flight, so the loss of one motor wouldn't prevent a safe landing.", "Thanks", "I absolutely can. More than once we'll be out and about and hear a drone so far away we can barely see the speck. Maybe not a mile, but 500m definitely.", "Where is Elroy supposed to sit?", "I think they mis-interpreted the info from the website. It states it will fly with a single failure, but given 8 rotors it likely has 8 motors as well, meaning 7/8 so you still have trust on all four points, just half power on one.", "If it doesn't require a license, that's a gap in legislation that will close pretty quickly.", "I don’t even trust my handheld drone without me in it. Why would I trust a larger drone with me in it. Lol", "This seems like a good way to kill off a few dumb rich kids. That's about it.", "Imagine flying in a city. No blade protection. Sure the got it figured out.", "you get to learn something awesome today, I'm jealous. \n\nas others have said, helicopters can convert wind going up through the blades (instead of down like they normally do) into rotational speed (think windmill). \n\nThen, when they get close to the ground and enough rotation in the blades, they switch that rotational speed into lift (the blade essentially \"pitches up\") and they have a soft landing. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nIt's actually safer to be in a helicopter without engine power than a plane..", "ahhhh that makes more sense", "Imagine hitting literally anything.", "Hope I remember at 19 mins, to get closer to the ground 😂", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9cRjMip_fo", "I don't think it's \"probably just as risky\" lol. Streets are an easy way to guide people into predetermined directions. In the air there is no such thing. Who is going to stop you from shanking some random people on the street with your blades, fly off. Or Imagine every car in the city not being on the ground but randomly flying in the air. No rules, only chaos. That seems so so so fucking stupid and I can't imagine aside from \"yea looks cool\" it has any other useful application. You can't even use it in war since you'll just be a clay dove for the enemy.", "This thing has an emergency parachute equiped. But $22K downpayment is too rich for my blood.", "EEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee", "I’m the drone", "Go three steps up on a ladder and jump head first into a rock. You can even have a helmet on if you want.", "100k.\n\nAlready sold out.\n\nBattery lasts 20 min.\n\nI'm sorry to the large majority of Americans who can't fit into one of these.", "https://youtu.be/tYrmIIp_a6U there you go", "Ever seen a cirrus? How about a fighter? Both have side sticks", "I love this. Obviously. But 20 mins needs at least a triple fold improvement. If they could make them last an hour that would be pretty fucking good. And presumably the airbags are.. comprehensive? As opposed to half assed, or a token gesture? or... non existent?", "Ah, but it is multi engined so if one engine fails you still have the others which should mean you are.... well, fucked. But differently fucked.", "There’s literally a roll cage around him 😂", "I said for vast majority of people, not everyone.", "I dream of being differently fucked.", "Not really worse than a helicopter in that regard, though.", "I would want some kind of button I can press to release a parachute quickly. Even that would be useless when used at lower altitudes. \n\nFor something like this, you really want everything to be redundant.", "So yeah, I guess if they fail in a way that stops the blades spinning altogether, they're fucked.", "That's way less obnoxious than I though it'd be.", "Especially with a battery life of 20 mins.", "Definitely not a mile away. Zero chance. 500m you would need to be downwind and it to be a really loud drone. I have excellent hearing (objectively and hear above 16khz) and there's no way I would be able to hear my Mavic Air 500m away.", "How? Maybe to spot people, but looks like it needs a decent size flat area to land, which is the opposite of where you will find people stuck in the mountains. It cannot carry anyone other than the pilot. Better if with a regular drone with good cameras including heat seeking. \n\nThis thing has 20 min duration and that's not including climbing 1000's of feet. More likely to add a casualty than to find one.", "Your list is missing an item:\n\nVenture capital bait", "8 spinning knives, dual rotors on each corner.", "Initial thoughts:\n\n* The in-air collisions/malfunctions will be horrific\n\n* Can't wait for the first race between competitors\n\n* Can't wait for the first news article of someone robbing a bank and getting away in one of these", "That’s the neat part, there’s 8!", "About 40% of crashes in the U.S. are intersection-related.\nIntersection-related crash deaths account for more than 20% of all traffic fatalities in the U.S. every year.\nAround 96% of intersection-related crashes had contributing factors related to driver behavior.\nNearly one-fifth of intersection-related fatalities involve motorcycles.\nAround 41% of pedestrian collisions occur at roadway intersections.\nEach year, an average of around 31% of intersection-related deaths occur at intersections controlled by traffic signals, and around 38% occur at intersections with stop signs.\n\n\n..lol", ">\tThis area needs to be relatively flat\n\nOnly a relatively small take-off and landing area. And the area must be far more flat for a car. \n\n>\tthe flight time up to 20 minutes\n\nThis is also my biggest complaint, although there are plenty of commutes that are less than 20 minutes and benefit from this. You can recharge at the destination. \n\n>\tthe one person that needs to be transported should also be the pilot\n\nI don’t see the problem here, this is how most people operate cars. \n\n>\tbe light and no carry any equipment.\n\nMost people don’t carry heavy equipment wring them on their daily commute. \n\n>\tYou can use another vehicle in almost any area, a jet ski in sea, or an ATV in the dessert.\n\nThere’s a reason they don’t use jetskis for island hopping. An electric vehicle like this has obvious advantages over all those things. You don’t see the benefit of simply circumventing the terrain instead of off-roading on an ATV or taking a jet-ski or skiff?", "That genuinely looks super cool", "How often are people in our even near an area that would be safe to land this thing? \n\nA jet pack seems a much more practical and probably even slightly faster solution to get a medic in, although I'm sure more difficult to pilot. That way landing just about anywhere someone can stand is possible.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/gtvCnZqZnxc\n\nAs for evacuation, as you say, it would need to operate as a drone as it doesn't have the payload for two, which is probably less safe than a helicopter and would almost certainly require line of sight. \n\nI'm sure we will eventually, maybe even soon with the \"air taxis in development\", get suitable craft like this with more payload and capability. Just not this one.", "That looks insanely fun", "King of the Jungle, King of the Sky ^TM", "That music is the sound it makes", "I’m just happy they didn’t include a cheesy voiceover saying that it’s “time to rethink personal transportation” or some bullshit like that.", "I have to call bullshit. Where are the batteries or does this thing have a 30 second flight time?", "Thank god this will be very expensive and out of reach of the general public. Considering how generally inattentive or inconsiderate a lot of people are in regular street traffic, you don't want them flying these things overhead.", "I absolutely love how these things are coming out and not a single manufacturer shows how annoyingly loud they are in the demo videos hahaha. \n\n10000 bee hives coming at you", "It is, a helicopters rotors are above head height on the ground. These are not.", "I would guess at least a bit more than 100k USD", "\"All electric VTOL aircraft\" made me think it was an electric Harrier or something. I was pretty underwhelmed when I saw it was just a large piloted drone. It's cool still, but not really that interesting to me.", "If you're 4m tall then that would be a problem with helicopters yeah", "Space age musical rotors, eh? It truly is the future.", "I argued that one sheep is actually a shoop a while ago on the same basis, but I was laughed out of parliament", "Reminds me a lot of the Top Gear hovervan that Clarkson, Hammond and May made", "Do you have a proposal for how to support your organs while being fired from a railgun?\n\nJokes aside though, something that always irked me about Iron Man - he's flying at 200mph or whatever then lands on concrete and stops immediately. Sure, I can believe his magical suit is fine, but all of his organs would then become a pulp relocated to his fists and feet.", "Guess Airbus needs to rethink it's control scheme.", "Freestyle/racing quadcopter pilot. I would try to power loop a tree then die. Nope.", "If you think \"will this have a practical use?\" the answer is no.\n\nIf you think \"this would be fun to use in a controlled environment in a theme park/amusement style setting\" the answer is hell yes.\n\nHow about using it as a race vehicle? Cover those sharp blades and design a bunch of easy courses. Program in speed and height limits and LET'S GO. \n\nI could see these being great fun, as an amusement park-like attraction.", " This is something Elon Musk is working on right now I've heard him discuss the engineering challenges, it seems like he is very hands on with this project.", " I wouldn't be so sure the military relies on battery technology that comes out of the production streams of the major consumer-based companies like Tesla, Panasonic, etc.. so while the US military might have very advanced weapons and equipment, the batteries themselves might be held back to whatever is available. It's unlikely the US military would have better battery tech simply because such a technology would have MASSIVE impact on our society. Sort of like how they didn't have smart phones before the iPhone and Nokia launched them.", "Yup more fucked unless they have some wild balancing Algo that automatically kicks off when one fails. You’re not too high off the ground and that roll Cage looks legit so may be fine", "Anyone who has seen a prop explode isn't going to sit with their body in plane with the prop, let alone specifically their unprotected neck....", "Very Nice , Mine was a bit larger, so top speed and travel distance along with flight altitude if you don't mind me asking ?\n\nSingle gears tend to fail so maybe independent motors in that counter rotating coaxial configuration it would be SAFER and you might want to add a Parachute just in case...\n\nN. Shadows", "laughs in Reaper Drone noises.", "Both of you are wrong. A mile seems to be too far away to hear a mavic, but I've definitely heard my mavic at farther out than 500m. Both of you are also leaving out the crucial variable of ambient noise. Whether you can hear a drone depends just as much on other noise (wind, traffic, insects, etc.).", "What a coincidence!", "With 20 minutes of battery capacity today, I think it takes 3-5 years before the battery technology is mature enough for a vessel like this.", "I want one. I fly often i my dreams. This would make them real.", "or only one twentieth of a decent single family home! yeah, i'd definitely buy one for me and each of my best buds than one of those. we'd make a new sport.", "I assumed it would modified to add protection from the rotors. Guess not. Someone is going to get decapitated because, let's face it, just because you have $100k to blow on a toy, doing so does not mean you are capable of being a responsible pilot.", "Even with the guards, if this stuff becomes common then its basically just morons on jets skis at the lake...but over our heads. I worked at a lake for a few summers and there were a lot of pretty horrific and sometimes fatal jet ski accidents.", "They have that.", "There are guards on the render on their website, but idk if they'd do much.", "Lol, because one is a car which is considered a necessity for many; and one is an overpriced, impractical toy.", "[\"Current Price $ 25.1 million to - $ 32 million U.S.\"](https://aerocorner.com/aircraft/boeing-ch-47f-chinook/)\n\nand that's probably a wholesale price", "Points two and three are pretty fucking silly. Owning virtually any GA aircraft is way, WAY more expensive and literally just as impractical, unless you consider flying your own aircraft at a fifth the speed as an airliner for at least triple the price and a fraction of the range to be practical.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nBut the regulations! This is an ultralight. It is governed by the same laws as paragliders, meaning very little regulation, no need to get a license, etc. The fact that it's VTOL doesn't have any effect on regs (why would it?). If the only concern is noise, well there are already laws covering that in most municipalities. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nLong story short, obviously this is just an expensive toy, but frankly general aviation is nothing but massively expensive and impractical toys.", "I'm not sure for what reason you are sharing this info for? Since there is literally ZERO data on fucking flight razor blades that are used by billions of people (like cars are). The only thing you have shared is that the US can't drive and should learn how to use roundabouts. But then again, the US is build in such a fucking stupid way flying deathly razor blades might actually be a solution to your stupid as fuck car centric way of living.", "First thing I would do is paint this like a Banshee from Halo", "It was a flippant joke", "u/Guitarmine just wants to flex his Mavic Air :D \n \nI will accept being partially wrong, as long as I'm partially right.", "At this point in the pandemic I would even settle for normally fucked.", "\"Aw shit, I hear a millennial coming!\"", "I think he was referring to \n\n>~75kg payload. Which is a human.\n\n165 lbs puts a lot of people out of being able to use it.", "Good thing many advances in technology are largey accessible to and benefit everybody. Do you think the engineers of F1 cars had to start from compete scratch?", "I have, I found it to be louder than every other jet at the air show it was at (F15, F18, F16). Maybe not louder, but at least as loud as the f15 but it was way deeper and rumbly if that makes sense.", "Many of the barriers are designed to absorb the crash energy, though. Can't really say the same about the ground.", "He’s literally 3 - 4 metres off the ground, he’ll be fine if that thing crashes, it might hurt but you’re not gunna die…", "A 4 seater GA aircraft is FAR from impractical, especially compared to this Jetson, costs less to buy, goes ~400 miles, and provides convenience for relatively short distances compared to hopping on a commercial jet for those who can afford to buy the aircraft in the first place.\n\nThis machine is strictly for entertainment value, nothing else. Imo cannot be compared to a GA aircraft.", "Lasts 20 minutes!?!", "That's... a glider.", "Can people stop designing these things so that person and the blades are on the same plane? Put the blades below or above the person, so that in the event you tap a blade to something, the likelihood of it hitting the pilot is reduced.", "I suppose there is a good reason it doesn't get more than a few feet off the ground.", "No, hence: \"And decades of development\"", "Well then why would the same rule not apply to the manufacturer of the product in the post? Does it also not benefit from decades of development of this technology?", "Fuckin right? That was my same thought. I was like uhhhhh everyone is most definitely NOT a pilot and that is for GOOD REASON. lmao", "They can do an infinite amount of work on safety, there is no getting around physics. The two most dangerous times during flight are take off and landing, that's why airplanes, helicopters, and any other form of aircraft get up to a high altitude as quickly as possible (so they have more time to troubleshoot if a problem occurs). This thing is DESIGNED TO OPERATE in the death zone. That thing will never fly high enough for a parachute to be effective. And if you can fly it high enough that a parachute is effective..... just use a helicopter.", "92,000 USD.\n\nTBH I rather this thing than a Model X if I had that much money to waste", "I mean, I guess the draft is down so, just painting the ground. . but.. ewww?", "Don’t forget sales tax. And insurance.", "No. It's a chair in a cage with Drone technology. It's just a big Drone with a chair in it.", "Idk if I would call a quadcopter a cheap design, it's just new technology. Auto rotation cant work on this that's why they have redundant motors. Once battery technology is better and cheaper, this will 100% be superior to helicopters for a small personal craft. I've built many quadcopters from small to as big as this. The technology scales great and its actually really simple compared to helicopters, less moving parts and they are relatively cheap. The only thing that doesnt scale is the battery, which will improve one day.", "Idk you need altitude for a parachute to save you, meanwhile on your way up and down to you are in a zone where the parachute wont be effective but you will certainly die. At the height they are flying at, you will def be injured but it isnt certain death. If I were the legal team I'd limit them to that location with soft looking sand and to a max height.", "I'm agreeing with you, vortex ring state probably does happen on a quadcopter but not to a noticable effect. I've flow my micro quad in ground effect tons of times, and I've also had experience tuning out prop wash. Prop wash happens when you are falling into your own down wash/turbulence and the prop has reduced lift, this causes instability of the craft and it will shudder on it's way down. The instability comes from each prop having different and variable amounts of lift, so the craft cant hold attitude hence the shuddering effect. The flight controller does it's best to hold attitude but looking at datalogs you can see the commanded motor speed for each motor going up and down as it attempts to correct itself. VRS sounds to me like a different phenomena and also more specific to a single large rotor on a helicopter. When you fly a quadcopter near the ground it's like your bouncing off a cushion of air, it lifts you up. That's why I dont think quadcopters see VRS when in ground effect. I've never even heard of the term in the UAV industry I work in.", "What would be use case for this? You need permits to use drones and this is basically big drone.", "Nah, I was just clarifying that you two were talking about two different things. Vortex ring state is entirely different than prop wash. Technically prop wash causes a vortex ring state, along with other elements.", "also people can't drive cars, these things would be crashing every day.", "> battery lasts 20min. \n\nHate how bottlenecked we are by current batteries, sht sucks", "The actual solution is actually; actual fuel.", "> Unattainable price for vast majority of people?\n\nI remember when drones first hit the market and some were like $10k.\n\nThen we moved forward and people even started making their own.", "That they’re using the previous research and technology to build? I’m frankly not sure what your point is here. Can you state what you’re disagreeing with more explicitly?", "Yea if that's all it carries I'm gonna need two.", "At first I thought him and I were talking about the same thing cuz I'd never heard of VRS, but ya we were not thinking of the same term but we were thinking of a similar type of effect.", "They claim it'll work on 3 engines and it also has a parachute so could be worse i guess", "sigh read the comment chain again.", "Well.... Ya... They're constantly under heat for lack of feedback between pilots and co-pilot input which has been a contributing factor in crashes as well as the specialized training needed for pilots trained on tradition yokes that are used by 99.9% of manufactures. Bowing sells to airlines that can normally pay for that specialized training and hours for the rating. This will have PPL pilots, or even non pilots operating on an unfamiliar and untested system, hence my concern.", "I have, can you tell me what I’m missing?", "It's electric and doesn't suffer from engine malfunction nearly as easily as a traditional helicopter.\n\nSo, the battery is the catch. Don't be an idiot with it.", "Good luck insuring that thing for less than 8k", "A complete vehicle is 92 000 USD and is delivered to you as a partially (50%) assembled kit for home completion. It contains everything you need, from the aluminium space frame to motor controllers, propellers and motors. You will also receive detailed build instructions.\n\nIf you want to have your own Jetson ONE, please contact us for purchase. 22 000 USD deposit to reserve a build slot. We plan to have twelve build slots for autumn 2022, with production starting during the summer of 2022.", "For Canada Gooses... Anything!\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1exJGPZyhs", "> railgun and parachute\n\nWhat?", "This is well below ultralight specifications. The FAA has never cared about this kind of stuff. It would be under the same restrictions as a paramotor.\n\nIn a few years under Urban Air Mobility regulation you could probably get a license and fly over buildings or switch on an autopilot to fly without a license within a city between hubs. Regulation will be expanding in interesting ways for electric VTOL.", "Lol who said it was actually a flying car that would get more than a few feet off the ground? Don't buy that.\n\nFan lift then you're close to the ground is much easier because the ground provides resistance. Escaping gravity with fans or rockets requires many times more energy.\n\nYou can look into this a lot, but at the end of the day there's a reason we use wheels on EVs. Levitating is a waste of energy. This is a fun off-road trick that I'd legit pay to experience for 10 minutes. If it's being marketed as anything else, don't buy it.", "Over water and you'll never get out in time before you drown", "https://www.google.com/search?q=hat+helicopter&rlz=1C1CHBF\\_enUS915US916&sxsrf=AOaemvJW7J0IGdIDvQ0UCm3C573G6jUwcQ:1634992882342&source=lnms&tbm=shop&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiYz9iPx-DzAhVVk2oFHXe-AowQ\\_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1280&bih=577&dpr=1.5", "blade comes off and pilot dies", "\"We are landing in the hudson\"", "<characteristic engine whine>", "Would be useful for them to demo it out over the snow in colder climate\n\nBatteries tend to hold less charge at lower temperatures\n\n(Actually, I'd prefer to see a video that demos a ballistic parachute, to see how safe the failure modes are)", "Ya I'd like to see all that. For that much money there should be battery warmers built in.", "If you are squeamish about deadly accidents experimental aviation isn't for you.", "210lbs payload \n\n20min flight time\n\n...I'll pass", "I've got all sorts of shit I could call out about it:\n\n* 20 minutes flight time really only means ten minutes out and ten minutes back unless you've got a way to charge it where it is, or a truck to carry it. \n* 210 pounds pilot weight could rule out a huge segment of the population with 90-100K to drop on a recreational vehicle.\n* I doubt you'd be cleared to fly it over anything populated, so unless you've got land or live out west, I really don't know where you'd use it.\n\nThat said, I love it, and I'd fly one if they'd let me. It may not be truly viable, but things get better over time. The first RC car I had went either forwards or reverse and right at the same time, and in the 1970s, that was normal, because in the 1960s, they didn't have hobby-level RC at all. My last RC car had independent suspension and adjustable steering knuckles, and it went almost 40mph. \n\nSo this thing is cool, and I'm glad they are selling out, and I hope no one kills themselves. I hope the idea catches on, and we all get them. If not, well, maybe we'll see some idiots do some idiotic stuff on youtube, right? \"Watch me fly my personal quadcopter over BLM lands to Walmart! SIIICCCKKKK!!!\"", "Let that marinate", "I’ve done 720 autorotations from 0 airspeed in a Cabri G2. It’s far from the ideal scenario for most helicopters to autorotate, but it’s still possible. We do them anywhere from 2000ft+ AGL to 5ft at a standstill. \nHelicopters frequently hover and ascend vertically, especially for long line utility work. That’s a scenario where you really won’t have the ability to autorotate in a failure, but it’s a risk that’s taken. \nThe jetson thing looks like a massive liability though. No pilots license needed! I’d love to run into one of these things trying to land at any airport and not have a clue about airspace, patterns or procedures.", "I reserved one , hihi jetson-aero.com", "Yea but 210 lbs isn't small or \"weighing very little\".", "Checked max rider weight capacity: 210lbs. Sorry. None of these coming to America!", "I could see it eventually designed to protect the occupants entirely in an air bubble to assist when hitting the ground, should that occur. Won’t work from an height to speak of, but from a height above typical power line range, and including the potential of hitting electrical lines, some protection should be developed/integrated into the machine.", "I looked at the pre-order list. San Francisco about 4-5 times shows up for ‘22 and ‘23. Can I assume high wealth tech bros? This whole thread is starting to feel like an episode of Silicon Valley, with Gilfoyle just standing and watching, arms crossed, waiting.", "everyone is a ~~pilot~~ moron. \n\n\nFixed it for humanity.", "Especially if you run the ac during flight. And you just know someone is going to ask why it doesn’t have ac." ]	322	videos	Jetson One Official Launch (all electric VTOL aircraft).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njy7pMVKJ8Q	/r/videos/comments/qd24rc/can_you_keep_the_beat_in_74_time_nate_smith_tries/	[ "I'd be happy if I could do \\anything\\ as well as this dude plays drums.", "He's one of the best out there right now. Phenomenally talented and probably the definition of 'pocket'.", "Honestly, the whole thing made me anxious. I intrinsically want that 4/4 beat.", "Enjoyed this immensely", "Every time I thought I had it, I’d lose it on next round.", "You can’t hold No grove if you ain’t got no pocket!\n\nYeah!", "Drummers are just something else man.", "It's normal for the brain to want to hear the \"clap\" as being the last beat of an 8 beat phrase when it's actually the first of a 7 beat phrase. So it's easy to get it right the first time but where I get off is when I go \"5,6,7, clap,1,2...\" but it's actually \"5,6,7, clap,2,3...\"", "That was fantastic. Thanks for sharing!", ">it's actually \"5,6,7, clap,2,3...\"\n\nYeah this. I'm a (very amateur) drummer who's been playing for a while, and even so I have to literally mouth the '1' when I hit the clap and physically sway in time to the 7-count as I follow along - otherwise I'm toast.", "Impressive, and the answer is mostly no. I was there sometimes, but most of the time I couldn't track.", "So the trick is - if everyone's trying - that the clap is on the '1'. In the beginning of the clip, listen to the hi-hat... and count as follows:\n\n\"Clap\"-2-3-4-5-6-7-\n\n\"clap\"-2-3-4-5-6-7-\n\n\"clap\"-2-3-4-5-6-7-\n\n\"clap\"....\n\nIf you can hold that even when he's doing crazy 'displaced' hi-hat fills and so on, then you've done it.", "You and me both my friend. You and me both.", "I’ve heard people say that he’s the real life buddy rich from whiplash - music students idolize him", "Cool so I kinda had it right! I know little nothing about music so I never know what the first beat is. I was counting to 7 and clapping on the 7th beat making the beat after the clap the 1st.", "It's pretty easy if you break it down into smaller chunks: \n\n1 - 2 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 2 - 3\n\n Or just learn to play pretty much any Tool song and you'll get the feel for it pretty quickly.", "Can anyone tell me why the \"marching drums\" in this song is impossibly difficult to drum your fingers to? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABXtWqmArUU", "If you like modern songs with weird time signatures, this one's really good (one of my favorites): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1kwxgEgEZs", "Hmmm... not too sure as it's in fairly simple 4/4 time; although there's some intricate syncopation going on with his accents.\n\nMight help to try the counting it by following the gentle tambourine (I think?) you hear... it's on the 'and' of the 4 count - so count = \"1-and-2-and-3-and-4-and-1-and-2-and-3-and-4-and...\" (put the 'ands' where the tambourine is)\n\nThe single kick-drum is on the one. The second of the double kick drums is on the 3.\n\nHowever... it is Steve Gadd... so y'know... he's probably one of the best drummers to ever live and I'm not trying to say it's easy to drum as good as him!", "That helped. The drumming occurs every 4:th but every other time it's slightly later.", "Yeah the snare work is beautifully syncopated - pretty cool explanation here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbultyEVOqw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbultyEVOqw)\n\nMay or may not help you :)", "Buddy Rich is the real life Buddy Rich.", "Same here, even though I knew it was 7! Then I watched a 2nd time and had no trouble at all. Try one more time", "The greatest drummers are the ones that can blow your mind with nothing but a snare, hi-hat, and kick.\n\nFor the uninitiated, here's Nate with [The Fearless Flyers](https://youtu.be/8P-y0mD442I), with three of my other favorite musicians.\n\nEdit: I couldn't pass up the opportunity to share their take on [Signed, Sealed, Delivered. ](https://youtu.be/kH1ZxoEkv84)", "I get that, I guess my statement was poorly worded. In the movie he idolizes buddy but music nerds never did.", "The time signature is 7/4. The easiest way to think about it is that the numerator indicates the number of beats per measure. The denominator indicates what note gets one beat. In this case it's a quarter note. So, there are seven (7) beats in the measure and the 1/4 note is counted as one beat.\n\nYou may want to check out [\"The Right of Spring\"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkwqPJZe8ms) to hear a revolutionary piece of classical music performed utilizing [444 time signatures changes](https://www.reddit.com/r/classicalmusic/comments/1lme4t/the_rite_of_spring_has_444_time_signature_changes/) that nearly got Stravinsky run out of Vienna when it first premiered.", "Huh. I had the clap on 7 in my head. I kept it by \"1-2-1-2-1-2-clap\"\nI tried it with \"1-2-3-4-1-2-clap\" but that didn't work as well.", "I think it's actually \"5, 6, clap, 1, 2, 3...\"\n\nCounting it your way, you would hit all the claps, but would always be a beat behind.", "I'm not sure that's right. To my ear, it's a seven beat measure with the clap on the 7th beat.\n\nIn other words, the clap ends a measure, rather than starting it.", "First time I heard this break was [Andre Nickatina - Last Breath of an MC](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fqllwlulHM)", "Look at all those 4/4 shills downvoting this.", "Listen watch at about 23s when he 'restarts'. He begins with a clap on one.\n\nWhen he gets going with the sticks the snare is on 2, 4 and 6.\n\nThat's how I hear it.", "Listen watch at about 23s when he 'restarts'. He begins with a clap on one. \nWhen he gets going with the sticks the snare is on 2, 4 and 6. \nThat's how I hear it.", "Whenever I see someone talk about syncopation I immediately think of Danny Carey and his Pneuma video.", "I mean it doesn't really matter what you count as the one as long as you can keep it steady, whatever helps you.\n\nI'm kind of cheating with these things as I have a habit of tapping my fingers against my leg/other hand when counting time so I just did pinky-ring-middle-index - ring-middle-index (1-2-3-4-2-3-4) over and over which made it easy to keep it steady even with his shenanigans, and I had the clap on the 7.", "Well it takes a TON of time and effort to get that good at anything. Gotta practice like a mad-man, and when you're not feeling like it, you do it anyway.", "Fourth position.", "Jojo Mayer does some crazy (and great sounding) stuff with just a kick, a dry snare and a hi-hat. Makes me wanna get a second snare, a really dry one.", "It's all about where the big beats are though, and 7/x time can be felt different ways. I feel like what he's playing is each bar composed of 4/4 + 3/4, but it can be 2/4 + 2/4 + 3/4 or 3/4 + 4/4 and these are all subtly different but all 7/4.", "The clap is on 1 because the snares are usually played on offbeat (2,4 etc). But since our ears are normally trained to clap on offbeats, it's much easier to count the rhythm with the clap on 7 than on 1.\n\nThis beat would have been much more satisfying for me if he got the audience clapping on an offbeat.", "This. I've never felt whiter.", "Now there's a name that would get any drummer excited. That man is a beast.\n\nAnd now I'm on a Jojo Mayer rabbit hole. Thanks!", "Damn nobody heard Shoreline 7/4 by broken social scene back in the day….", "I don’t think that’s a cheat. Counting is fine in an analytical sense, but I’ve always found it too distracting when trying to keep a beat. \n\nMoving your body works great, I used foot taps: clap-tap-taptap-clap-tap-taptap-. The 7/4 beat just needs that double tap in there somewhere, and you’re golden.", "Here's a couple of songs in 7/4 I made. Well, maybe the second is 7/8.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/j62L8WZo4rA\n\nhttps://youtu.be/Ohkb3B8BmsE", "I also heard it on the 7. I tried to force it on the one and my brain said “noooope”", "Why are people downvoting this?", "2 and 4 are not off beats. They are up beats. Off beats would be between beats. OP is correct. When he first starts, he’s playing a downbeat after the clap, I think to make it easier for the audience to count, but once he starts going he follows the clap with an upbeat.", "Because there isn’t really a correct way to count it unless he was playing a straight beat all the way through. Yes there are 7 beats, but it could also be a measure of 3 + a measure of 4, or a measure of 4 + a measure of 3, or three measures of 2 and measure of 1, etc.", "It’s really not that hard. If you can tap your foot and count to 7 you can do it.", "This is my favorite unconventional time signature. I think it's 15/4 for a lot of it. \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbckIuT\\_YDc", "I think what’s confusing is how he starts the beat on the snare", "I know it's gimmicky sometimes, but I'm a sucker for shit like this:\n\n* [Cinematic Orchestra - Flite](https://youtu.be/rQhrrZr0hUU)\n\n* [Venetian Snares - Szamár Madár](https://youtu.be/2PBeKzVhWHY)\n\n* [Venetian Snares - Pwintendo](https://youtu.be/1oXqMuhj1iM)\n\n* [Don Ellis And His Orchestra - Pussy Wiggle Stomp](https://youtu.be/BWAGjFJFMBA)\n\nIt's just a neat time signature - Venetian Snares in particular seems to work almost exclusively in 7/4 or 7/8.", "[This seems pretty white](https://youtu.be/rQhrrZr0hUU)", "Since you guys are clearly fans with great taste - make sure you watch Jojo with Benny Greb - improvised drum performance: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyed1YR2cRM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyed1YR2cRM)\n\nMesmerising!", "That feeling is completely normal, and odd time signatures like this are often used in songwriting to create a sense of hectic tension before switching to a more standard time signature. The tension followed by release makes a chorus groove so fucking hard, in my opinion.\n\n\nSpoonman by Soundgarden is a great example of this technique.", "I'm hoping one of the other three is our Lord & Savior Joe Dart, with Cory Wong as a possible third? Or maybe it's Blake. All of these are the correct answer.", "I'm a bassist, and the best advice I ever got for odd time signatures is to break them up if the groove allows for it. 7/4 can be broken into two measures, one with 4 beats followed by a measure of 3 (or 3 then 4.) 9/4 could be counted as 3x3, 4+5, or 5+4.", "Do y’all struggle with Pink Floyd’s “Money” too?", "It doesn't help that he keeps starting his beat on the 2 and skips the 1 beat about half the time. It makes it feel like those should start on the 2. The silent \"beat\" adds to the confusion.", "With that intro sound, I immediately yelled \"VULFPECK\" and was reminded of my favorite drummer,\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq5LMGtBmis\n\nOf KNOWER and Clowncore fame", "I counted it this way too the first time. The clap happens on the 7th beat with the feel I got. But if you go back and count the clap as beat 1 it works better with the exercise.", "I want the Fearless Flyers to re-record the soundtrack of Marvel Vs. Capcom 2.", "White is pretty great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq3-ByunU_M", "It's kind of neat to try to switch between the two... not each measure, but count with the clap on 7 for a bit then restart and try it on one.", "It's kind of neat that it can be counted both ways. It makes it feel a bit different, basically changing where the accent is in the measure, but it doesn't change the actual timing. I counted it with the clap on 7 the first time then tried with the clap on 1. Both work.", "Is this at Kingston Mines??", "Yep I closed my eyes and I get it, get one too soon, get one too late, repeat", "Not my tempo", "As long as I counted out loud I got it but even then he’d throw me off", "as someone with zero musical inclination of any kind, I feel like I'm too stupid to understand what's so great about this. I mean, he looks like he knows what he's doing, but I don't know what makes this so impressive.", "That was really fun to close my eyes and nod my head and try to pat my belly on the 7th. Also, an amazing lesson for people unfamiliar with non 4/4 time.", "All you have to do is just count to and clap on 7 with every beat and not pay attention to anything else lol", "How is that easier than just counting 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7?", "All i could hear was 1,2,1,2,1,2,clap. I might even be a half beat off.", ">a measure of 3 + a measure of 4, or a measure of 4 + a measure of 3, or three measures of 2 and measure of 1, etc.\n\nThis is literally not how time signatures work. A time signature says how many beats are in a measure and what notes get the beat. 7/4 means there are 7 beats in the bar (aka, a measure) and the quarter note gets the beat. That's it.\n\nWhat you described means the time signature would be changing from measure to measure.\n\nThe drummer is playing the quarter notes with the hi-hat. The clap is on 1st beat, then there are 6 hi-hat beats, then the clap on the first again (only at the very beginning, before he starts riffing). The bass drum is playing 2 quarter notes, followed by 2 eighth notes, then 2 quarters. Every clap is the start of a new measure.", "Right? I don't drum and i had no problem.", "When you're counting the clap is on 1", "It does because there is an actual one beat in what he's playing", "un-fucked link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbckIuT_YDc", "Because you haven't wrapped your head around the beat yet.", "Couldn't the clap be the 7? 4-5-6 \\clap\\ 1-2-3-4-5-6 \\clap\\", "Clap on 1", "He's essentially using a musical equivalent of a tongue twister to intentionally mess with the audiences sense of when each bar starts.\n\nA bar is a single unit of a composition, and usually a bar contains a certain consistent number of \"beats\" or \"pulses\", which in Western music is most commonly 4 or 3. But just because each bar has these pulses that van be felt throughout, it doesn't mean those are the only times you can play. He's already upped the difficulty by using a somewhat non-standard number of pulses per bar, namely 7, but he also then plays various rhythms that obscure what the real rhythm of each bar is, all the while perfectly maintaining a bar length of 7 beats.\n\nSo its vaguely like a musical tongue twister in that unless you're paying very close attention, his cleverly constructed beats are able to manipulate our brains into doing the wrong thing because of muscle memory (in this case for normal 4/4 time signatures).", "Yeah, I think that 7th beat is all that throws you off, without counting anyway. I kept wanting the beat to end early, but it wasn't too bad.", "You're not wrong when you state that you can count the measure in different divisions in your head. However, if you state \"a measure of 3 + a measure of 4, etc.\", then the time signature would would reflect there is a measure of 3/4 followed by a measure of 4/4. \n\nLet's say the time signature was 13/4 there would be 13 beats in the measure and the quarter note would still get one beat. However, if the time was 5/8 there would be five beats in the measure and the eighth note gets one beat.", "Isn't 7/8 just 7/4 with twice as many measures? Depending on the phrasing of the riff, it would make sense to double count a 1 Beat, because it would be a bit weird to indicate that in the middle of a 7/4 measure.", "What, no [Broken Social Scene?](https://youtu.be/Uev2J_cBHjQ)", "That's where I heard it and couldn't unhear it.", "Uhh no. There are not six snare beats. And it’s only 7/4 if he’s playing a straight beat the whole time. I would count it as 7 so I wouldn’t get lost, but that doesn’t mean he’s playing straight 7/4. Different time signatures have different feels and there are accents in different places. \n\nFor example. 3/4 would be down, up, up. 4/4 would be down, up, down, up. 6/8 would be down, two, three, up, five, six. Odd time signatures like 5, 7, 9 can be mismatches of evens and odds. So yes technically he’s playing 7/4 since every measure has 7 beats, but he’s playing different patterns within those 7 beats and mismatching even and odd feels. \n\nSo if he plays down, up, up, down, up, down, up that’s seven beats, but the feel is a measure of 3/4 and then a measure of 4/4. Often times locking into the feel is way more important than locking into the count because if the drummer is playing down up up down up down up and the guitar player is playing down up down up down up up it’s is going to sound terrible. Both people playing 7 beats, but totally different rhythms.", "That song sounds so familiar. Pretty sure it's not a cover though. It's like they took a heavily inspired part of the melody from it.", "I listen to lots of Radiohead.\n\nThey do lots of this shit\n\nhttps://youtu.be/p_IHotHxIl8", "I am self taught drummer and counting 1-2-3-4...and clapping at 7 worked for me", "21/8 seems scary until you realize it’s just 3 bars of 7/8", "> where I get off is when I go \"5,6,7, clap,1,2...\"\n\nIt doesn’t help that all the phrases he plays has a rest on 1. It gives it the feel that the clap is at the end of the measure (where tests are more likely to fall. \n\nHim starting almost every phrase on 2 really gives 2 the feeling of being the downbeat", "The track called \"Love Is Stronger Than Justice (The Munificent Seven)\" on Ten Summoner's Tales by Sting has a 7 beats per measure time for the verses, but not the chorus.", "or you can clap on any number as long as you clap back at the same number.", "Someone else has heard of the fearless flyers?", "I just realized I said snare when I meant hi-hat.", "Hell yes, I love this piece.", "I think [Nate Smith & Kinfolk live on Tiny Desk](https://youtu.be/peYcNm3JTe8) will go down in history as one of the best performances NPR has ever hosted. Seen it at least 10 times. Every tune is out of this world. Be sure to watch the last- “it’s short, but it’s angry.”", "1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and 5 and 6 and 7 and...\n\nEZ PZ, that said this was a joy to watch.", "Seriously, my foot taps to the beat subconsciously.\n\nI don't even need to count anymore.", "I wish I could pat your belly on the 7th.", "I've listened to enough Venetian Snares that this isn't that hard anymore, except for the parts like at 2:25, where I'm guessing he's playing a polymeter? I'm not sure what else it would be.", "Yes I can .... you might find this interesting \nIt's a clip Of Harry Connick jr. Slipping a 5/4 bar into a solo to make the audience clap on 2 and 4 instead of GOD DAMN FUCKING 1 and 3.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/4hYYgz-AJKU", "Jojo was just suggested to me in my discover weekly! It was real good", "This is not a traditional West African rhythm as far as I know. But it brings back wonderful memories of C.K. Ladzkepo's African Rhythms class at UC Berkeley. \"Playing inside the framework\" is what C.K. would call it.", "NOT MY TEMPO\n\nSource - am a white guy.", "Toadies - Possum Kingdom. 15/4.", "If you hum the bass riff from Pink Floyd's song 'Money' along to this, it's a lot easier to folllow", "I was like “wow this is pretty interesting and good”\n“Oh wtf it’s Steve Gadd. Of course.”", "[ Jump to 02:25 @ Nate Smith giving a counting lesson in Chicago](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njy7pMVKJ8Q&t=0h2m25s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Shedthemusic, Video Popularity: 99.23%, Video Length: [03:26])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@02:20](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njy7pMVKJ8Q&t=0h2m20s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Music! \nIt's a hit. \nDon't give me that 7/4 time bullshit.", "Course I can, I'm a TOOL fan", "Not if it’s subdivided differently - based on OP’s counting it’s more like a bar of 5 then a bar of 7 then a bar of 9", "Well that's just syncopated.", "You know what I've always hated? [Alex Clare - Too Close](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zP50Ewh31E4). He wrote that song in standard 4/4, but whoever he hired to do the dubstep beat or whatever site he bought it from for the chorus did it in 6/8 while he still kept singing the lyrics in 4/4. Fuck that guy.\n\n\nNothing to do with this video, I just have hated that for years and haven't vented about it before now...", "A time signature is just a heuristic tool for organizing time - you can write and think of any piece of music in any time signature. Some are simply more intuitive than others and there may even be a disconnect between how it makes sense to write and how to feel the music. It is incredibly common to internalize something written as 7/4 as either 4/4 + 3/4 or the reverse, depending on the beat.", "Did you see [different zones](https://youtu.be/MhV9h9K8yHo) with jojo mayer? It's insane, impossible to keep time!\n\nTalk about this with two of my drummer friends sometimes and we're forever undecided on how to count it", "Aww", "How do you know it isn’t a pickup on 7? ;-)\n\nThere’s a 12-beat flamenco rhythm that’s traditionally counted starting on 12, with accents on (12), 3, 6, 8, 10, 12. I always hear it as starting on 1, with accents on 1, 4, 7, 9, 11. It’s really the same thing, though, regardless of how you want to notate it.", "Loius Cole is legit one of my fave drummers right now.", "Killer song!", "Time signatures and the definition of a \"beat\" are entirely arbitrary though. It's only defined via convention.\n\nFor all we know, his notes are written as 2 + 2 + 2 + 1 with the snare on the 1st beat.", "Hundreds of us", "Most drummers at some point absolutely idolize buddy rich. Still to this day, very very few players can match the power and speed that he played with. He was an innovator and a giant asshole.\n\nWhiplash was also kinda whack. No drummer would ever play a jazz ride pattern at a medium tempo until their entire hand was torn up. That’s just silly. Stop and stretch bruh, maybe get some bands aids for those blisters before the situation spirals out of control and it looks like you’ve had a table saw accident.", "The secret is that the clap could be any of those numbers, or even multiple different numbers at different times. Or even between those numbers!\n\nYou just gotta keep counting to 7 so you don’t lose track! Haha", "Then you're clapping on the last note, not the first.", "Shits fuuuuun.\n\nMeshuggah made an entire genre out of this kinda stuff.", "\"The Rite of spring\", as in ritual dance", "Use to have to play 3/4 across 4/4 for big band; that shit is madness", "Thought I was wrong when counting and starting with the clap as one. But it is the way apperantly. My piano lessons 15 years ago still come in handy with the counting I see :D", "Nate has been and always will be the king. Best of the best right now, this video doesn't do him justice although very cool.", "Probably because it's an extremely well known song by one of the most acclaimed singer-songwriters ever in history?\n\n\nIt's honestly pretty funny reading \"It's like they took a heavily inspired part of the melody from it\" about Paul Simon's biggest hit song lol.", "How about keeping the beat in 5/4, 6/4, and 11/4 simultaneously?\n\n[https://youtu.be/5EtB4kXzNmE?t=1366](https://youtu.be/5EtB4kXzNmE?t=1366)", "[yea they can blow your mind but Danny Carey can alter the very plane of your existence](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEner2pmY08)", "It's not fair to compare regular drummers to Danny. Even multi-Grammy-nominated artists can end up looking like Elementary school band instructors, trying to teach class how to count in a single time signature.", "Louis Cole is the shit.", "Holy shitballs that is awesome! I hadn't heard it but I love it. I'm mostly hearing 5/8 (I think?), but they also change tempo as well; sometimes gradually, sometimes chopping and changing suddenly.\n\nVery creative. Wonderful mood.", "I guess not listening to music gives me a super power.", "I would have gone with this one, personally: \n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FssULNGSZIA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FssULNGSZIA)\n\nPeople that appreciate drummers should find that especially satisfying.", "honestly I'm impressed with how many in the audience did hit it.", "What's your fave song in 7/4?\n\nThe fuck outta here with that useless shit. This is the shit that killed rock n roll", "There's times where he goes on the \"and\" side of the beat and that's where everybody seems to fall apart. Tapping your foot helps, because if you just listen to his kick or hi-hat you'll get lost in those parts.", "This isn’t too weird of a time signature. Solsbury Hill is in 7/4 but it really complicates it by adding one bar of 3/4 at the beginning of the main phrase, and then throwing in two bars of 4/4 for the hook (“grab your things I’ve come to take you home”).", "Haha yeah saw this recently. Brilliant. Love the drummer (Shannon Powell?) celebrating in the background.", "Never listen to r/Meshuggah", "Well others have said Money by Pink Floyd, of you like rock. \n\nMe, I like jazz funk soul pop fusion... So most stuff by Snarky Puppy. There's bound to be some 7/4 in there.", "This is what was really fucking me up.", "I was just thinking as I walked out the door yesterday \"huh, I haven't listened to knower in a while, I gotta get back into them\"", "My music lessons have been paying off. I felt where the clap needed to be every time. Feels good", "This is all I know", "Dream Theater loves to pull these timing shenanigans. As an example, \"The Count of Tuscany\" has a verse riff in 9/4 time, spread out over 2 measures as (3+2+2+3+3+2+3)/8.", "Yes, the clap was on the 7th beat of each measure.", "Funnily enough this did the opposite for me, complete zen.", "The best way to keep track is by counting... \n\n1 & 2 & 3 & [CLAP!] ...", "Just focus on the hi-hat, it's always 6 hits followed by clap + hit, rinse and repeat. At some point it disappears, but if you keep sticking to the 6 hits, clap, 6 hits, clap rhythm nothing should throw you out of it.", "Steve. Steve.\n\nSteve Steve Steve.", "No, 7/8 means that there are 7 eighth notes in a measure. 7/4 is 7 quarter notes. In 7/8, an eighth note is still only half a beat. In 7/4, you count it 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 and repeat. In 7/8, you count it 1-2, 1-2, 1-2-3, so you have 3 beats in a measure, with one of them half a beat longer than the first two.", "It's not as complicated as everyone is making it. \n\n7/4. Just count to 7 and then start again. None of the other stuff really matters until you start adding other musicians and accents and start playing something. This is just count to 7. It doesn't matter if I go 4 then 3, while you go 3 then 4, and someone else just goes 7, and some random dude goes 1 2 1 2 1. Just so long as we keep the quarter note steady it's super simple. Guy can play as many drums as he wants, subdivide and expand on rhythms and motifs all day, we just count to 7 and clap on 1.", "7 beats per measure, and a whole note gets 4 beats. It sounds familiar until you count and clap and it just doesn't feel normal, but it totally is.\n\n1-2-3-4-5-6-clap, 1-2-3-4-5-6-clap", "This guy would be so good at osrs", "At 2:25, he's keeping the triplet subdivision going (three notes per beat), but grouping them into fours.\n\nWith seven beats per bar and each beat divided into 3, there are now 21 subdivisions in the bar. Immediately before 2:25, the groupings emphasised all seven beats:\n\n3 3 3 3 3 3 3\n\nAs you can see, it adds up to 21 in a nice, round way.\n\nAt 2:25, assuming the clap is beat one, the groupings become:\n\n4 4 4 4 5\n\nThis pattern emphasises subdivisions that don't line up with the true 7 beats per bar structure. As 4 doesn't divide into 21, this new grouping pattern requires a sneaky group of 5 at the end to maintain 7 beats per bar. The audience gets lulled into a false sense of security by the new pattern of fours, and it's easy to become mixed up and count each group of a four as a beat. The extra subdivision in the last grouping means that many in the audience clap one third of a beat early.\n\nIf you were continuing to count the actual 7 beats throughout the pattern at 2:25, they would only line up with the \"false beat\" twice; once at the beginning of the bar and also at the start of the 4th grouping. This is obviously challenging if you aren't sure of what you're listening to!", "This brings me back to rhythm labs practice at college. Back when I thought about a career in music. Then I saw how ACTUAL musicians didn't make hardly any money. I then became a process controls engineer. Lol", "That was rad", "\\-Wong and Dart intensifies-", "General Apathy.....a Ben Folds 5 reference ?", "it breaks my heart i cant keep up with clapping.", "This is why he's the ace of aces.", "instead of replacing a number with \"clap\", say the number anyway clap every time you get that number. putting more emphasis on the number helps too.\n\nso instead of \"clap 2 3 4 5 6 7 clap 2 3 4...\"\n\nyou go: \"ONE 2 3 4 5 6 7 ONE 2 3 4...\"", "When I saw Winnipeg is a Frozen Shithole for sale at a show in Winnipeg I was in love.", "The snare rolls aren't in 4/4, and so every second roll comes in after 4 but before 1, making it hard to tap along to if you're trying to follow in 4/4.", "And Major Boredom, singing", "This one is 11/8 if you like this kind of thing\nhttps://youtu.be/J5McdXcZKbw", "King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard have done over 30 distinct songs in 7/4 and 7/8", "I love how he throws the ladies on stage with him off a little too. He’s got everyone in the room thinking 🤔", "Whatever and ever, amen.", "I've got, this great idea.", "Thats how i did it", "Reminds me of the jam session where the drummer excitedly exclaims that he can now play 7/8, and he starts counting in: one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.", "I had to teach a rock group in Los Angeles “Fraternity of Man” how to play the Frank Zappa tune “ Oh No I don’t Believe It” which is in 7", "Ah, the old 5/4 clave...", "Outshined (Soundgarden), and Them Bones (Alice In Chains) also are good examples. I hold artists with good songs in odd time signatures in particularly high regard because it requires not only a musical ear and skill with the instruments, but a real understanding of exactly what they're putting together.", "Why don't you sell it to", "And no one knows who they are outside of the Patreon followers.", "Pink Floyd is a perfect example of the bloated and self-referential music that made rock irrelevant.", "Ugh. I'm a drummer and thought I would have no problem.\n\nWas going smooth till Nate started doing triplets over a 4/7.", "No. The one beat is a real thing", "Why do Americans make everything about race?\n\nDo you think black people have some kind of internal metronome?", "Count alternating bars of 3 and then 4.\n\nOften when counting bars of 7 or 11 or 13 or whatever you can \"feel\" the music as alternating or multiple bars of simpler counts combined.\n\nFor example there are some Tesseract songs that have parts in 13/4, but it feels like two bars of 6 with an extra beat at the end.", "If the clap is on 7 or on 1 does it actually make a difference? Not trying to be a smartass, just curious if this actually changes anything with how a song would sound.", "Probably due to how many big time artists, especially hip hop/rap, have sampled or flat out done covers of the song. Eminem for example sampled it twice.", "Song has got such a good fucking groove", "A significantly easier way to count that is to go \n\n1-1-2-3-4-5-6\n\nPeople accustomed to western music are able to be very comfortable in 6/4 time. 7/4 not so much. By adding the extra 1 they get to stay in 6/4 feeling wise. \n\nA similar technique works with 5/4.", "What, you think he didnt intend it like this?", "Aside from this guy, what is the definition of pocket?", "Does it have to be whole numbers? Can you have a 10.78/3.14 pattern?", "This is impressive", "This tickled my brain just right", "Mehldau, Guiliana, Jamerson..", "Thanks for the explanation", "The trick for me is, feel what the bpm is, then just count in my head will trying to ignore what he is playing", "yeah this made it much harder. If they just clapped on the 1 then I reckon most people would manage no bother.", "The ace of aces himself", "Oh, I don't care either way. The chorus bothers the hell out of me.", "Eh, it's six of one or one half dozen of the other since it's 7/4 time but the way video is played the clap does not appear to be the final downbeat i.e. the quarter note played after the last measure that drum lines play during cadences and warm-ups. So, that's why I used the 7th beat and not the 1st beat of the measure.", "Vulf related, [Tud McGrearunchth teaches odd time](https://youtu.be/qxkHWzYK9NE?t=101)\n\n1,2,3,4,5,6,sev-ven", "Rush's Limelight is the most natural feeling 7 I've heard, even when it switches between time signatures it just feels like 'that's how the song goes', it doesn't make your brain annoyed.", "I'm a drummer myself, who even takes a little bit of pride in being better than average with odd time signatures, and he still got me a couple times there.", "It's definitely a stereotype that black people have better rhythm, so basically yes", "Watch this video all the time. Fucking incredible", "Feels a lot easier for me to go\nClap-2-3-4-1-2-3-clap", "Cause someone told you it was in 7/4… then counted you in. From that point you’re just a shitty metronome", "I found this exceptionally easy... after I muted the audio.\n\nWhich I think is basically the game here. It's not actually hard to count by 7s reasonably consistently. The challenge here is that the drummer is intentionally screwing with you by dancing all over the beat, switching between being syncopated and on the beat, skipping random numbers of beats in random places, constantly changing the rhythm and cadence, etc.\n\nThis is like asking somebody to count to 100 while you yell random numbers at them to screw them up.", "I couldn’t clap with it. I have no rhythm.", "> The greatest drummers are the ones that can blow your mind with nothing but a snare, hi-hat, and kick.\n\nnope, not at all\n\nbullshit broad sweeping statement", "Sometimes, [jokes are funny](https://youtu.be/l6AlQgq9MRE).", "> No, 7/8 means that there are 7 eighth notes in a measure. 7/4 is 7 quarter notes.\n\nYeah? This still means 7 quarter notes have 14 eighth notes. Which is half as many measures to write down. Because that is two 7/8 measures.\n\nThe tempo is still based on the quarter note. So it just doesn't really matter. Depending on how you write the melody, it comes down to which method is more convenient looking.", "Because the US is the most multicultural and successfully integrated country on earth. As a result, racial, cultural and identity issues are often top of mind.", "Well I never heard of the song before. It's not in my main genre of songs to notice, especially by name. The one Paul Simon song I actually know of is, You Can Call Me Al.", "Years ago I saw Brubeck perform live. He was playing something off of Take Five, an album full of theses oddball time signatures. Before the song, he turns to the audience and with a wry smile says, “I dare you to tap your feet to this.”", "As a Meshuggah, general djent, and progressive metal fan, I was extremely conformable with this guy's beat.\n\nEdit: though apparently most Meshuggah is actually 4/4, but they do some weird stuff that makes it sound like it's not. I have no idea but [this guy](https://youtu.be/UcsAAPdJTBE) explains it very well.", "Dude, Vulf is sick, but the fearless flyers are bananas. I don't know the dude who runs that second guitar, but he's as much a beast as Joe n them.", "The clap is the very 1st thing he plays, to me that's beat 1\n\nI guess he could start the groove on beat 7, but that seems... clunky", "Or, just doing what sounds cool with no idea of the technical jargon behind it.", "Big thanks, can’t stop watching", "He claps at the 4 second mark but was already playing the bass drum and hi-hat which would imply the measure had already started.", "7/4 isn't hard to pick out when he starts with simple patterns like he did. Lol\n\nCool conversation skills bro", "Being \"in the pocket\" in music is to do with the tightness and groove of the rhythm section. It's a tough one to define - but you'll know it when you just hear a really slick, consistent, easy groove that sounds really pleasing and forms a rock-solid foundation for all the other musicians. \n\nYou'll hear it mostly around funk/soul music, often jazz.", "Im a doo doo brain and will just count off 2 3 2\n\nAnd that melds in to 2 2 3 at some point. and I get all lost.", "At :24 seconds in he restarts the groove. There's no ambiguity at all, he is clapping on beat one. It's the first note of the groove.", "He's my favorite silly walker [all the time](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glgPZmSwC4M).", "If you found this fun to play along with, and you enjoy video games, may I strongly recommend a game called Rhythm Doctor on PC. It is a very unique rhythm game that actually teaches you about this kind of stuff as you go along. I have no affiliation with the game, just find it an awesome time. \n\n[Rhythm Doctor](https://store.steampowered.com/app/774181/Rhythm_Doctor/)", "doesn't help anyone that doesn't know what a measure is, or a quarter note.\n\n\"Seven beats per measure\" As someone that has no musical background this means nothing to me.", "Wow you’re a pompous dickhead.. he’s intentionally trying to throw you off. His fills are syncopated and on the off beat. But sure, simple patterns. \n\nThat’s the whole reason this is interesting, because it’s not immediately obvious.", "What genre of music would you describe that Fearless Flyers clip as?", "For anyone who is confused by this. Count 4 beats then count 3. The clap is on 3.\n\nSo 1,2,3,4,1,2,Clap.", "Matt Halpern is super good at using a minimalist style set as well.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/snnque6s1vU", "I don't think you understood my comment.\n\nIronic calling other people dickheads", "Yep right.. this comment only confirms you’re a dickhead.", "Its kind of embarrassing how childish you are.", "Well that just blew my mind", "My mother fucking man Joe Dart just always crushing it in there too.", "Are you referring to [Mark Lettieri?](https://www.marklettieri.com/bio)", "Imo the whole \"we play in 4/4\" thing is misleading.\nTheir riffs repeat phrases that are definitely not 4/4, but they correct for this by only playing a partial phrase near a 2^n /4 boundary.\nThis lets their drummer keep 4/4 with his snare, to give the song a \"pulse\".", "'The Idea Of You' by Nine Inch Nails is one of my favourites for this. You never feel like the song is 'even'. March of The Pigs also feels very unbalanced, with apparently a 29/8 time signature.", "That one is pretty good, my favorite 15/4 song is\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUmARJ0o6Hw", "Well, not everything is aimed at you. Failing to address your level of knowledge isn't worthy of a downvote, is it?", "Unless it's not.", "Benny fucking Greb! This thread is making me so happy! Great video!", "Louis Cole is the greatest drummer no one's ever heard of. Well, mostly no one. Not nearly enough.\n\nSo stoked you just brought him up. \n\nDo you want to ride in my blimp?", "If people don't understand your explanation they will downvote you.", "Joe Dart, Cory Wong, Mark Lettieri. :)", "can you at least bring something to the discussion if you're gonna call it bullshit? i'd like to know why that rubs you the wrong way, unless you just \\want\\ to be a dick.", "I guess funk. Seems underwhelming to just call it funk... but god damn it's funky as fuck.", "always stoked to share my favorite musicians with people. glad you enjoyed!", "Yes, that is exactly right and the only way it was possible for me to even comprehend it. \n\nI think that song switches to 4/4 for David Gilmour's solo because as talented as he is, 7/4 is a mindfuck!", "Yes. But I don't think people really understand the beat or try to count the rhythm of Money. It is truly a mind-fuck if you sit there and go clap-2-3-4-5-6-7", "Thanks, I like it.", "Mark Lettieri is one of the guitarists for Snarky Puppy. Can hang with the best of them, for sure.\n\nHe's got a slide solo in [this tune](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JICdTKQ5jOU) that I get stuck in my head note for note all the time. So much with so little.", "What do you mean?", "Wow. OK, being a huge jazz fusion nerd, I am pretty knowledgeable when it comes to complex rhythms and compositions....\n\n But honestly, that kinda broke me a little. 🤣", "there's a small steady bit after his quick snare breakdown that's clearly in 5. other than that, I even have trouble finding the 1 for most of it!", "For sure! Check out Vulfpeck if you like this. Fearless Flyers are a sort of spin off of Vulf in a way.", "Benny's the best. Like in my opinion, seriously: the best. My own personal favourite - I just love his style, his groove, his discipline, his artistic flair. Understated and yet so showy at the same time. He's a magician.", "Money by Pink Floyd?", "Just count to 7 bro", "In high school jazz band, our drummers always had big kits because they thought it was cool. Whenever the band director sat in, he just used snare hihat and kick... No comparison to the kids.", "Eh, the last one was the only one that didnt do it for me. Absolutely vibing hard for everything else though. Thanks for sharing!", "As a lifelong drummer of mediocre talent, I was happy just to have kept the beat throughout the video. He's ridiculously good.", "They have no hits. Zero hits", "Yeah I'm a major proghead and actively try to find ridiculous rhythms lol but this is one of the few tracks where I'm pretty much lost completely. Love it a lot though", "Here’s something a little easier to wrap you head around\n\nhttps://youtu.be/Uev2J_cBHjQ", "Thanks I’ll watch it", "it's a broad sweeping statement that is simply, 100% incorrect\n\nyou've just phrased it to sound edgy \"only the best drummers can do this hurr durr\"\n\nthere are no absolute truths like that", "[7/4 Shoreline x I'm A Flirt](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrV4AZknk4c)", "OK. Then fuck right off sir. I've been drumming for 20 years. I made a statement about the skill of drummers, that almost any drummer can relate to. Nothing broad or sweeping about an observation, ya dingus.\n\nYou're just trying to be edgy by being another asshole on the internet. How unique. I hope your day is as pleasant as you are.", "He is the most musical drummer I've ever heard. Best is always subjective, but Benny's skill and style is as close as you can get to the top of an objective list.", "I've been sending it to my other drummer/musician friends and they have all come back as frustrated as they are blown away. I searched the comments hoping for a Good Will Hunting moment in there. 😂\n\nSeriously, from prog head to prog head, thanks for sharing. It's always a treat to expand the musical palette, especially to this degree.", "It's really humbling. Drummers like Danny Carey and Neil Peart obviously earned their legendary status. But something about that minimalism is so much more impressive to me. It's a master class in technique.", "Nonagon Infinity was a huge release for them. They're not mainstream pop artists, which is all most people bother to try to get into, but if you like any of kinds the music they make, you know who they are.", ">The greatest drummers are the ones that can blow your mind with nothing but a snare, hi-hat, and kick.\n\nquite broad, you stupid Fuck", "Yeah me too.", "Saw it live. Still get goosebumps.", "the greatest drummers are all capable of demonstrating incredible technique with bare minimum. that's an absolute fact. i'm getting the sense you don't have even a little background to dispute that, which i tried to give you the opportunity to do in a reasonable discussion above. crying about it being a broad statement doesn't actually communicate anything.\n\nwith that said, i hope you're ok. there's something seriously unhealthy with being this upset with strangers on the internet over \\absolutely nothing.\\", "> i'm getting the sense you don't have even a little background to dispute that\n\nminus the 20+ years of playing and studying the drums you'd be correct\n\neat a dick you fucking asshole", "Doubt it. Sitting and looking at drum kits in a store window doesn't count as studying.", "LMAOOOOOO\n\nYou've got your head SO far up your ass, incredible. \n\nfuck off you pretentious cuntbag", "Buying gf 10gp", "Fun", "I wish you'd respond with even a little substance. I've been genuinely interested why you are so bothered by this. Yet all you can muster up is petty insults. My search for intelligent life has been for nothing, so it seems.", "> so bothered by this\n\nno, just regular bothered\n\nyou pretentious cuntbag" ]	300	videos	Can you keep the beat in 7/4 time? Nate Smith tries to mess with you (and probably succeeds)
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qd3hk6/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qd3hk6/deleted_by_user/	[ "\"I'm down here in the hiz-ouse, you know the hizzie.\"\nI died.", "\"What's the diilly, yo?\"\n\nPeak of that actresses career right there.", "Zelda gets those cheeks clapped on the reg", "This is miserably cringe worthy. I miss the 14 minutes ago before I knew this existed.", "Why the fuck can't corporations talk like normal people? I went to my locally owned game store because the guy there, while treating me like a customer, talked to me like a normal fucking person and didn't attempt to upsell the shit out if me. He knew the games, learned what I liked, knew what to suggest, and let me leave the store without a 15 minute groveling session about $15 product protection plans on a $10 game and a subscription to Game Informer.", "> 90s Gaming Store\n\nStart video. See Xbox logo in background.", "I like Dragon games.", "To some people anything before the iPhone is the 90s.", "and that 90's classic Madden 2004.", "Xbox and GameCube came out in late 2001." ]	10	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AmS91H2B6Y	/r/videos/comments/qd3vpo/a_guide_to_understanding_mechanical_keyboard/	[ "I hate those neutered tens keyless boards. Lack of wrist support also.", "This was entertaining, well produced, and informative! Nice job man.", "You can always get an external numpad if you prefer; and the thing about wrist support: just get a separate wrist rest. It's not a cheap hobby, but that's just another part of the custom experience.", "So my only requirement for a keyboard is that it can support multiple keys being down simultaneously, ie: register control, alt, shift del, up arrow, right arrow, all at the same time.\n\nI have never used a mechanical keyboard. I look at what's available, and everything is $100 plus for a low end version, where high end logitech membrane keyboards have always been less than $100\n\nI think most of these keyboard enthusiasts are being suckered for their cash", "You actually can't understand mechnaical keyboard enthusiasts. They are just people who blow money on things that make them happy, that are ultimately pointless.\n\nIt's the same with a lot of hobbies.", "That keyboard in the intro looks so uncomfortable. I use a keyboard with mechanical switches too, but it wasn't designed by children. I have a kinesis (cherry red mx switches) that I use for work and a traditionally shaped keyboard with cherry red mx switches that I use for gaming. The kinesis was expensive, but it's a work expense. The keyboard I use for gaming is from monoprice and I bought it in probably 2014? For I think about $80?", "fuck i almost turned this video off when i saw that unbox therapy piece of shit.\n\nthat guy shilled for that escobar phone. fuck unbox therapy.", "they're saying for a functional standpoint. so i guess it's like saying your honda accord will get you to the store just like a benz will get you to the store.", "The marketing got you good or you had an horrible membrane keyboard (yes there are good membrane keyboard like there is bad mechanical keyboard) but no it's not faster, it's just more enjoyable.", "Not sure how location dependent the prices are but where I live my Cherry mechanical keyboard cost the equivalent of 70 USD, and that's for one with numberpad there are cheaper here.\n\nIm not an enthusiast though I just type a lot for work.", "I have a heavy metal framed Ducky keyboard with a year of the wolf space bar and super light sliver switches. it is so nice i have stopped buying expensive keyboards because I dont want to give this one up. I have 5 others on a shelf in my closet. one ortholiniar one and one split keyboard. there is one i liked a lot that was super clicky but had a very specific cable that i misplaced. I had an obnoxiously loud razor keyboard that i gave to a co worker and his GF fucking hated it lol. I think it would still be fun to print one of the split curved ones. but yeah i like expensive collections. I have keyboards, knives, and fountain pens. and i know i have spent several thousands on each.", "Walmart has their own brand under $50. It's loud, but very comfortable. Is also a real mechanical, not a membrane.", "I strongly doubt I will ever buy a mechanical keyboard for two reasons. The first is that I've been using the same AU$13 keyboard since 2012. Considering how much use it gets, that is unbeatable cost efficiency.\n\nThe second is that I also used to use cheap mice and saw no point in spending more on them. Within a month of getting a AU$100 mouse for free I thought \"Fuck, I can't go back to that cheap shit, this is now an increased replacement cost I have to bear for the rest of my life\". I'm certain the same thing will happen with mechanical keyboards. \n\nI might not see why people spend so much money on them from the outside, but past experience tells me that when there are that many enthusiasts involved then there is probably more to it than meets the eye (politics and religion not included).", "Both membrane and scissors switch can have lower pressure required to activate it depend on the model really, but anyway it doesn't make you type faster or slower, if it would everyone would use mx red switches.\n\nAnd scissor switches have much lower key travel distance wich I guess should be in your equation somewhere?\n\nIf you are really interested just do a quick google search, there is literally 0 proof that a mechanical keyboard type faster.", "Orrrr, you get just get a keyboard with a number pad and wrist support.", "When my Logitech G710+ broke (it's a bad keyboard by the way), I didn't want to spend a lot of money on a new keyboard, so I bought a cheap tenkeyless keyboard (Redragon Kumara). Before buying it, I was concerned about the lack of wrist support and the lack of a numpad.\n\nI was wrong. This tenkeyless keyboard is much more comfortable without wrist support than the G710+ ever was with its built-in wrist rest. I also don't miss the numpad - this way, my mouse is much closer to where my right hand usually lies on the keyboard.\n\nSo I guess it's subjective.", "I honestly hate membrane keyboards. They are 100% fine for typing, but for gaming, i always had to deal with horrible ghosting. Also keys always started to get unresponsive after 2 or 3 years.\n\nMaybe they have improved since then, idk. I got a mechanical keyboard 12 years ago for about 100€ and it still works perfectly and it didn't ghost one single time.", "Enthousiasts spend $100s on single, individual keycaps. They know there's nothing functional about them, if anything - they are less functional because of their weird shapes. That's ok though, it's just a hobby. Did you even watch the video?", "I spent about $160 on TKL board a few years ago, and spent another 170$ on some special keycap set. I waited over a year for the capset to finally get produced and shipped, and spent the day I got it meticulously changing all the keycaps and lubing the switches in the process. It was really a lot of fun. Now it just sits on a display in my office, I don' t use it a lot because I have another, perfectly fine keyboard, and this is just so nice to look at. It's a hobby. It's like art, but with my own input. I browse the subreddit every so often, look at other builds and think of building my own some day. Not for function, but to put next to the first one on the wall, or maybe on the opposite side of the room, I haven't decided.\n\nedit: [I mean look at this and tell me how this isn't art](https://i.redd.it/u60wvvc4v1661.jpg) (not mine, not my taste either, but brilliant execution and dedication by [u/coookiecurls](https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/kfysq1/the_full_collection_that_can_fit_on_this/) )", "I dunno about wrist support but it is annoying that full keyboards aren't cool anymore. Surely people would want a numpad and discrete function keys? But it's not minimalist, so it's not trendy.", "Thanks so much mate!", "You can get a cheap mechanical keyboard for $30-50 if you don't mind using off brand switches and ugly keycaps. Keyboards that look and sound better cost more.", "You’re more limited as far as options go, and 100% layouts in general are more expensive. You’ll also only have “standard” layouts for that, nothing with possibly ergonomic features.", "More expensive than buying a TKL, separate number pad, and separate wrist pad?\n\nThere are tons of 100% quality mechanical keyboards out there. And a fair portion of those in the $100 or less range. So you're not really all that limited, and it's not really all that more expensive.", "> More expensive than buying a TKL, separate number pad, and separate wrist pad?\n\nYes.\n\n> There are tons of 100% quality mechanical keyboards out there.\n\nThere are lots of manufactured boards, yes (like Razer, Logitech, etc.), but then you don't get the same level of choice when putting it together using switches and keycaps you like. There's barely 1 or 2 boards a year that make it to a group buy that are 100% layouts. You'll find more 1800's or 96% if you're lucky, but those are going to be more expensive.\n\n$100 won't cover a 100%'s full keycap set if you're looking at anything that isn't a super-cheap bit of flimsy plastic. Even if you go for cheap switches, you'll already break $40. If you're looking at good switches it'll be at least $80. Most manufactured boards also rarely offer silent switches, or if they do -- it'll be a single option that doesn't work for everybody.\n\n> So you're not really all that limited, and it's not really all that more expensive.\n\nCost is a part of it, but it's also lack of availability. The cost drives demand pretty low, so there is no incentive to increase supply.", "My keyboard cost me £25 years ago and still works perfect today", "> Redragon Kumara\n\nBurh I have the same keyboard. Cheap-boys unite! \nI agree about not needing the numpad. The keyboard takes up less space on my desk. \nI disagree with not needing a wrist rest though. I had to get one for myself because the keyboard is too tall. I had to get a foam one that raises my wrist to the same level as the base of the keyboard.", "i don't type any faster or better but good god it feels more consistent to type on even a mass market mechanical board.\n\ni fully intend to make my own mechanical keyboard and go for a deep dive. i don't really expect to spend that much since so much of the cost of the high end board is cosmetics. hell i don't even need characters on my key caps since most of the time i don't even look at it when i am typing. what i am gonna spend a lot of time on is getting the keys stable and consistent. do things like after lubing testing the typing weight so they are all the exact same.", "I'm just happy with my GMMK full size with whatever blue switch came with the keyboard and the stock key caps. As an actuary I don't think I'll ever lose ten keys.", "Honestly, if you aren't doing data entry, who needs a number pad? I also almost never use function keys either (main use: programing, writing papers). I'm sure people out there have very different use cases than I, but I don't personally really want either that much.", "This is like 'no, my new shoes _do_ make me run faster'.", "Unless I'm also typing something with letters, I use the number pad for typing numbers. Whenever I'm using my laptop I miss it dearly. I think most people have a laptop for daily computer use, and most laptops don't have number pads, so they get used to not having one.\n\nI also do a lot of photo/video editing so being able to enter values fast is great. As far as discrete function keys go, they contain valuable shortcuts that wouldn't be super short if I had to do (for example) alt+shift+fn+4 instead of just alt+f4. There are also games that use function keys. I guess I just like the utility of every available tool - I just don't see the benefit of TKL or 60% keyboards unless you actually don't have enough room on your desk. Maybe if I was building a computer just for writing or internet browsing I'd use one, but by that point it's just as useful as a show piece.", "Left handed people need them. I use the keys a lot while coding or writing anything longer than a reddit comment as well.", "For me, as a software developer, my keyboard is irreplaceable tool. Only once did I leave it at home when I went on a longer business trip and never again. I though yeah, who cares I can work on laptop keyboard for few months. How wrong was I. Just few days after working full time on those my hands started hurting. I had to go hunt for some decent membrane keyboards just so I could continue working.", "I don't see it that way. For me keyboard is a tool which I use daily. It's the same with screwdrivers. You have cheap ones that do a perfect job of loosening or tightening screws, for a while. Then they get messed up and you just go buy another one because it's cheap. Or you can buy a higher quality one and be set for life.\n\nSame thing here. Also, while I understand that large majority of people is just fine with rubber dome keyboards, I am not. I kill those within a year or so. Membranes just give up. And it wasn't just some cheap ass keyboard either, it was 100$+ Logitech keyboard.", "Because to common folk it's all about function and nothing about comfort. To me it's the other way around. It's a tool I use every day whole day. I need it to be comfortable otherwise my hands start hurting.\n\nThat's where actuation force and profile come to play, where profile of keycaps matters the most, texture, weight, layout, etc. They all contribute to having more comfortable experience.\n\nIt's just that most people don't look at anything they use from that point of view but ask them if they'd prefer sharper needle for drawing blood or duller one. Or thinner vs. thicker. Choices matter, it's just that've never through about keyboards having a choice.", "I kill Logitech membrane keyboards within a year, and yet they cost me around 100$. If anything people buying these are suckered for their cash. That said, number of keys pressed at the same time is defined by the protocol, with USB it's 6 while PS/2 it's N. There are some keyboards that allow extending USB with more but require drivers.\n\nThat said, it's not the matter of price but comfort. When you buy shoes you don't go for cheaper, you go for comfortable. Same thing with bicycles or cars. Anything that's used frequently.\n\nIf your rubber dome keyboard serves you well, then there's no need to upgrade really. For me personally they are a bit too hard but are otherwise perfectly usable. However on these you can't change key caps and those matter a lot. Without cylindrical or spherical profiles like XDA or DSA my hands are forced into different position at my typing speed and hands soon start hurting.\n\nMy keyboard cost me around $150. I made stock key caps very shiny first year so keyboard always had this greasy feeling to it due to this. I purchased replacement key caps out of PBT plastic for $40 and they've been going strong ever since. So yeah, it's more money but if you don't see the need, you don't have to buy... just like you don't have to buy more expensive car.", "It's not about the price. It's about comfort. I had cheap keyboards that lasted me a long time and I had expensive ones fail me within a year. Good thing with mechanical ones is that you buy one and you are set for life. Anything that breaks can be fixed.\n\nAlso, there's more to them than just switches. Keys on mine are mounted on steel plate and then soldered to PCB. At not point, no matter how much I abuse the keyboard will switch break off. It's just more quality construction and since price is higher engineers think about all kinds of minute things from key profiles to actuation force and sound.", "I love them. Easier to travel, more free space on desk. And what do I sacrifice? Numbers that I have above letters so I don't even have to move my hands much either.", "That all sounds good but there's no way I'd spend more than £30 on a keyboard, just seems wasteful to me", "That's just a habit you have. Of course you would enter values faster with numpad since that's what you use the most when entering values. You have just become proficient at it. But you can look at it from a different point of view. Numpad makes your keyboard off to the left or your mouse further to the right. So it's less ergonomic and also takes more time to get your hands away from letters to the numpad and back. So you could be actually slower. \n\nUltimately speed doesn't matter. To me it's all about comfort. As a software developer to me it's much easier no to move my hands away from home row. So numbers above are easier to type than moving my whole hand and then getting it back. Not having numpad this also means my keyboard can be centered in front of my screen since I don't use mouse a lot anyway. So overall it's more comfortable position to me. \n\nIf you are say accountant, then having numpad is much better because you'd be using it more than I use my numbers. So it's all about use and to each his own.\n\n60% though is a bit too constricted for my liking. I like my keys grouped nicely. But that's also matter of preference. Just like there are dedicated keyboards to video editing, you can consider TKL somewhat dedicated to general purpose.\n\nAlso, full keyboards being a norm you can thank to IBM, since they were the most influential with their design. Just like QWERTY is the standard layout we inherited from typewriters, completely designed for different purpose but people were just too use to it to change, even though we have more efficient layouts like Kolemak and Dvorak.", "They don't make them, period! IBM stopped making those some 30 years ago. I forgot which company claims they have bought the molds and are making them the same way, but it's obvious they are not. The fact I can find Model M older than me speaks a lot about build quality IBM had.", "People aren’t saying you can’t buy a good mechanical keyboard that you will use forever. Don’t kid yourself that that is what that subreddit is about, it’s people looking for a way to fill a void and dump loads of money.", "Well, for me it's a tool which I use for work and privately. So price is justified. Also I didn't waste 3000$ on this. Mine was 150$ and after few years I got different set of key caps for 40$.\n\nLike with anything, price scales with quality only up to a point. After that it becomes luxury and I don't like going there. I explicitly looked for keyboard that suits my needs. No multimedia keys, no back light, no special functionality like volume control and stuff. I don't need that.", "My point was that up to certain point, while quality is following the price, it's not as odd and weird to purchase a good tool for yourself if you are going to use it all the time.\n\nThis 3k price range is not something I'd go for though. It's too much in my opinion and price is dictated by the rarity instead of quality.", "Left handed people need number pads? Why?", "Because our mouse is in our left hand?", "> I also do a lot of photo/video editing so being able to enter values fast is great. \n\nI used to be a photographer. What sort of values are you entering fast? I only use numbers to rate/flag keepers. \n\n>As far as discrete function keys go, they contain valuable shortcuts that wouldn't be super short if I had to do (for example) alt+shift+fn+4 instead of just alt+f4.\n\nI personally don't use any shortcuts greater than three keys, and I prefer to not move my fingers off the home row. How many shortcuts do you have such that you require 4 keys? 3 keys should be enough for thousands of things, right?", "Ten-keyless are a godsend. I did design work for years, drove the mouse with my right and the keyboard with the left. My wrists would hurt so bad after being forced to have the two so far apart. Once I got a board without the ten key, most of that pain went away.", "Probably because I learned to type in an old mechanical typewriter, but mechanical (and long throw) keyboards are much more comfortable for me to type on. I absolutely hate when I have to type on a cheap, flat-key, laptop type keyboard.", "I’ve got a couple different computers. In 8 years or so, I bought exactly 1 good quality board for one particular one, and half a dozen lower quality boards for the other.", "I enter values for color correction and other parameters with the numpad, and I also have keyframe shortcuts mapped to the numpad. The less stuff I have to click and drag, the better.\n\nAbout the shortcuts - I was describing what it would be like if I was using a 60% keyboard with no discrete function keys. Even multipurpose function keys (like on laptops) have Fn, but on a 60% the function keys are also the top number row, which means more keys to hold down if you want to use function keys.\n\nAll of this is taste and style, I just like a numpad personally.", "I have fairly broad shoulders, so my arm would be turned in at almost a 45 degree angle if I moved the mouse over six inches, which would make me either hold the mouse at an angle, which would probably be best but I'd need a deeper desk, or bend my wrist back to being straight with the mouse. Ergonomics are weird. I'm also left handed and use the mouse in my left hand and the trend of cutting off the right side of the keyboard is frustrating when looking for higher quality keyboards and laptops are mostly out of the question for me without an external keyboard.", "Any suggestions on where to browse keycap sets?", "Not really, I just follow the subreddit and most drops show up there right away.", "You missed the keyword: \"enthusiast\".\n\nMechanical keyboards are dirt cheap. Also that's not what the difference between mechanical keyboards means. You're talking about the physical dimensions when you think you're talking about the mechanics.", "That's cool and all, but you're disagreeing with truth." ]	57	videos	A Guide To Understanding Mechanical Keyboard Enthusiasts
https://youtu.be/8HEyVBZTm7o	/r/videos/comments/qd4wwl/well_that_didnt_age_well/	[ "🤷🏾‍♀️ Aged perfectly fine to me", "Yea same", "Like Fine wine imo." ]	3	videos	Well that didn't age well...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrEUzKTt7j0	/r/videos/comments/qd562d/you_will_be_happy/	[ "Modern horror reality.", "Brilliantly put together! Klaus was a nice touch ;)", "This seems to be where we're headed.", "Really well done, though the vaccine booster poking and the political nonsense is off putting.", "You see no moral hazard with the social credit system being implemented?", "Its 4chan art. See acronym FAGMAN instead of FANGMAN for big tech. Still I do concede they put a lot of effort into this.", "Equating non-materialism with some kind of dystopic future is a bit of a strange message.. If anything we are headed this way because people have a need of ownership and constant consuming.", "Respectfully disagree. History shows one of the first signs of any totalitarian regime is the abolition of private property and ownership for the middle and lower classes. Meanwhile the elite or ruling class can still own all they want." ]	10	videos	You Will Be Happy
https://youtu.be/pnoLAMHwf2I	/r/videos/comments/qd59ni/the_12_myths_about_taxing_the_rich/	[ "Comprehensive for an 8 min video, thank you.", "If you don't know that the rich own congress, then good luck.", "lol. Yea. This thread with ten upvotes. The indoctrination is really setting in\n\n\nJust report the thread if you feel it breaks rules you performative loser lol", "Could have just reported it and moved on. The fact that you’re still here means you’re grandstanding. for someone who hates Reddit your really crave attention here.", "\"70% of Americans, 54% Republicans\" judging from the resulting pie chart apparently only ~20% of Democrats believe in taxing the rich", "The speaker demonstrates why this has bipartisan support and specifically does not mention political parties.", "The account you're talking to has only been around for 3 hours. Which is weird because it's super early Moscow time.", "This has to be my favorite conspiracy meme of all times.\n>but but the government is actually ruled by the rich!!!", "A lot of this is opinion, not \"myth vs fact\". Nonetheless I was disappointed that the point about billionaires simply moving to another country wasn't addressed.", "Myth Number 4 had a pretty dumb statistic at the end. Looking at nominal taxes and nominal growth in those years completely ignores the fact that most fiscal policy has been countercyclical. What does that mean? You EASE fiscal policy when growth stinks, so it makes sense to have lower taxes when growth is low, and you TIGHTEN fiscal policy when growth is doing pretty great, so you tend to raise taxes when growth is already doing well. So it APPEARS as though HIGH TAXES = HIGHER GROWTH. But the truth is, periods of high taxes are followed by periods of lower growth. And periods of lower taxes are followed by periods of higher growth. I stopped watching after this, because it's just as bad as the myths they're pointing out in the video.", "b-b-but mah safe spacezz", "Different person here: They're not ruled by for sure, and I think that's going off the deep end to imply, but withing the US government there's a lot of shirking of responsibility to constituents to kowtow to the interests of the wealthy and corporations.", "What many refer to as the \"Golden age\" in the us (1950 to 1970) had some of the highest taxes the country has ever had so IDK how you can correlate high taxes to lower growth when that historically was not the case.\n\nYou may have a point if there had always been a persistent dip in growth after a tax hike, but that wasn't the case during that time.", "Reich can justify higher taxes a million different ways, but the bottom line is that even if taxes are raised, it will never be enough. Government will never, ever have enough revenue, and the burden, waste, and inefficiencies will continue to grow. You'll never tax your way to prosperity, but higher tax rates kill dreams and reduce incentives to go out, take risks, and make it big. Why risk everything if the government is just going to take it away and spend it on some wasteful social program? The size of our government needs to be dramatically reduced and it needs to get more efficient and productive.", "While I do agree with most of what's in this video I do think it's a little weird to talk about raising taxes (on anyone) in a vacuum. I think in general it's good to talk about what you're getting for the extra tax dollars because despite what he says taxes are indeed to raise revenue. Even if the goal is reducing income inequality, we'd be doing that by funding legislation and programs that hopefully accomplish that goal, unless of course he's actually trying to imply we do that solely by making the wealthy less wealthy without increasing the wealth of the lower-class (which I highly doubt). \n\nWhen you talk about increasing taxes on the rich without talking about what you hope to accomplish by doing so (more specifically than just reducing income inequality), than it gives the appearance you're only doing it out of spite.", "They wouldn't because most other countries either have harsher taxes or less freedoms and respect for private property. \n\nThere's a few outliers that would be better, but no one's going to pick up an entire empire and move it to a different country, risking it folding in the process for various reasons, only to come out slightly ahead. It's much easier to hire a lobbyist to get concessions to keep things comfortable.", "70% of Americans and 54% of republicans are two separate statistics.", "Sure, but they projected 54% of Republicans over the pie chart of Americans", "> there's a lot of shirking of responsibility to constituents to kowtow to the interests of the wealthy and corporations\n\nSure, but baring exceptions, those are usually aligned with the interests of the people. The entire point of lobbying is aligning one's politics with a nations economy.\n\nA good example is the 2008 bailout in the US which is often talked about like it was literally gifting money to rich people while in reality not only was it done to protect the public from the sginificant fallout that would have occured from the relevant cooperations failing, but the bailout literally made money overall on interest. It wasn't a gift to rich people, it was a loan, that made money, with significant benefit to the general public.", "In Ontario our premier has been cutting healthcare budget, and as a result our healthcare system is suffering. It has become sort of a common knowledge that his party is doing so to make a case for private healthcare as people grow more tired of overnight wait times in the ER.\n\nI see your point, your are right, but I think the full picture is being lost here. Super rich has a heavy lobbying hand in the government, and when the government continues to fails in efficiency because of its own policies it's hard to not draw the conclusion that it's the lobbyists who are pushing for inefficiency; Maybe if they didn't have as much money as they have now to influence the government, we would have a better government capable of delivering on its intended functions and doing so efficiently.", "I'd say it's more likely the things that aren't done are the things that aren't in the interest of the people. Lack of regulation (or repeal thereafter) or punishment for those responsible for the 08 crisis is an obvious sign of that. The banks definitely needed to get bailed out, otherwise pretty much every citizen would've felt the ramifications immediately instead of over the course of years. \n\nI'm mainly stating that even if it's a small amount of lobbying that goes against the people's will, it's already too much and has been pretty disruptive to the country.", "> Lack of regulation (or repeal thereafter) or punishment for those responsible for the 08 crisis is an obvious sign of that.\n\nI don't think it's as simple as that. There is no \"this policy will prevent from something like this happening again\" that doesn't have significant downsides also. Ultimately it's mostly a personal preference between free/regulated market and growth/security. More regulated housing market might have prevented 2008, but also negatively impact the housing market in terms of affordability of housing etc..\n\n>I'm mainly stating that even if it's a small amount of lobbying that goes against the people's will, it's already too much and has been pretty disruptive to the country.\n\nYeah I'm not denying it exists, I'm saying I think it's vastly overblown. People make it out like half of the raison d'être of politicians is corruption. I think it's dangerous because it pushes the rhetoric of the need of a radical revolution (because electoral change is painted as impossible, i.e. \"If you don't know that the rich own congress, then good luck.\"), be it left or right, while risking the current system, which, while flawed, is pretty good compared to what we had historically.", "> but higher tax rates kill dreams and reduce incentives to go out, take risks, and make it big. Why risk everything if the government is just going to take it away and spend it on some wasteful social program?\n\nBe interested to see a list of the periods in history in which the scenario you described has happened.", "you mean the post-world war 2 supercycle? you're just exemplifying the point i made. High taxes are seen in periods of high growth, because the economy can sustain those high taxes. Gross simplification sure, there are plenty of other reasons for raising taxes, but the stomach for those kinds of policies typically come when growth is doing well. I'm not saying high taxes are correlated to lower growth, they're correlated to HIGHER growth.", "what does moving solve? If they remain US citizens they still have to pay taxes on income less a credit on income taxes paid in the country they are living. So if they relocate to a place with 0% incomes taxes - all their income is taxes in the US. If they move somewhere where the tax liability is the same or greater than the US they generally do not have to pay taxes in the US.\n\nIt wasn't mentioned because it is a non issue. \n\n[https://www.greenbacktaxservices.com/blog/25-things-need-to-know-us-expat-taxes/](https://www.greenbacktaxservices.com/blog/25-things-need-to-know-us-expat-taxes/)\n\nWhat in there was opinion? Other then arguments presented by the right wing talking head.", "Tax 'em or we eat 'em", "wait much longer and the primary use of the revenue will be paying off interest on foreign debt\n\nhttps://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/images/full-reports/2020/56516-fig4_deficit-interest-vs.png", "He said that was part of what it would be used for, as well as raising revenue but then said the biggest thing was reducing income inequality but that doesn't seem distinct to me from raising revenue. \n\nHonestly even paying off debt doesn't seem distinct to me from raising revenue and I don't really understand why we'd push back against the notion of raising revenue to begin with honestly...", "Agreed on the lobbying, but with that said, yes there absolutely are people who have picked up their entire lives and companies just to live in a tax favorable location.", ">unless of course he's actually trying to imply we do that solely by making the wealthy less wealthy\n\nWhat's wrong with that? Eat the rich.", "I mean myth 11 is \"it's unfair to raise taxes on the wealthy\"\n\nI even agree with him on this point, but there's no denying that \"fairness\" is one of the most subjective things to debate about.\n\n>if they remain US citizens\n\nthat's a big if, though. If it results in big tax savings for billionaires, why wouldn't they renounce citizenship? [This is something that is already happening quite regularly, and is on the rise.](https://www.businessinsider.com/ultrawealthy-us-citizens-are-denouncing-citizenship-in-droves-2021-8)", "It happened in his libertanistan dreams.", "His characterization of property taxes as a tax on just having property ignores the fact that the existence of that property within a municipality creates costs for the municipality. Police, fire, roads, schools, record keeping. That's the reason for property taxes, not to tax people just for having stuff.", "I feel as though the sentiment here is valid...but a few of these points could be construed in multiple ways. For instance, I was curious about the fact that doubling the tax rate \"DOUBLED\" the growth. If anyone is an economist here and can weigh in I would love to hear about the convergence of growth values while varying the tax rate and if theres a limit to how much growth we can get from a tax. If 10% results in a 0.02 growth is it worth it? I am in favor of taxing the rich more, however I do fear for a future where we always continue to ask for MORE and never stop until all is taken.", "Commonly phrases as: Correlation != Causation \n\nI agreed with most of the video, but this stood out to me as being kinda bogus. And the arbitrary percentages seemed odd too, very handpicked and fishy looking.", "The US is actually a tax haven for people from the rest of the world, FYI.", "Robert Reich is the greatest of all time", "I'm going to say some capitalist shit, I think \"the market would adjust\". What if a Windows 11 license came from India, what if Teslas were manufactured in Germany? I'm just making shit up with those examples but I'm finding it hard to care if Larry Ellison moved to Thailand, didn't the Panama Papers reveal that everyone was banking off-shore anyway? I really have trouble worrying about the 1% leaving, it doesn't feel like they're actually here to begin with", "Why? The poor are leaner", "I’m not sure if myth 7 makes much sense, rich people pay capital gains taxes, if they pass on their wealth to their heirs, they will need to pay either capital gains taxes or estate taxes.", "Mh-hm, keep it vague, wouldn't want to sound smart on accident would we", "Most rich people would not move to another country and give up citizenship. Basically you are exiling yourself. As a tourist you get 3 months in the US and then have to reset. Then if you do that 2x or more, you risk getting rejected. So basically you transition into life outside the US. \n\nNo more nights with friends, weekend on Broadway, see your kids at boarding school 2x a year, etc. Miss out on US friends and family.", "Haven't watched the video. Just reading the comments for flavour and it is super interesting.\n\nThe tone is so... reasonable. It's all tongue-clucking, beard-stroking and 'what's to be done?' Where's all the crazed lefto's that reddit is supposed to be full of? Jesus I mean these mega-rich assholes bear some personal responsibility. They're not just the victims of a flawed system.\n\nThe world is on fire. It's too late to debate the minutiae of tax law. The debate should be on whether to start sharpening guillotine blades (please note literal-minded people(read: conservative) - this is my attempt at humour).", "Did you even read the article? \n\nInsider previously reported the US passport lost a big chunk of its value in 2020. Some of the reasons the richest Americans wanted to flee were the handling of the pandemic, general social unrest, and, perhaps most importantly, the presidential election.\r \n\r \nAt the time, America's wealthiest people were having a hard time finding a way out of the country, even for vacation, since so many countries weren't allowing Americans in.\n\n\rNuri Katz, the founder of Apex Capital, a firm that specializes in citizenship by investment programs, previously told Insider the wealthy had to adjust to not being able to travel for work or pleasure — which led to a desire to \"diversify\" passports.", "Excessive Income and wealth taxes when the lower earners pay nothing, amounts to theft. You can’t make a poor person rich by taxing a rich person. That just makes everyone poorer due to the reduction in purchasing power, and that most lower earners don’t manage money well. Yes taxes are needed to fund roads, schools etc. just make it equitable. With a flat tax, the higher incomes still pay more. Also high taxes have a tendency to inflate government and government spending, both of which are much less efficient than keeping those in private sector. Think about who gets that money first when it’s taxed.", "It accomplishes nothing?\n\nI don't think you understand what this sentence means my dude. It means the rich get poorer but no one else ends up any wealthier as a result, the poor are just as poor as they were before.", "It being tautological is practically the antithesis of it being untrue, you understand that correct? \n\nand that the entire issue I was raising is that he was saying it was blatantly untrue that the goal was to raise revenue?", "US has one of the lowest tax rates when you involve tax writeoffs/loopholes. Pmuch any other first world country has higher, all things considered.", "It's addressed indirectly in point twelve", "> The trick is that billionaires just don't pay themselves.\n\nWhich is the point I'm making.", "Not really no, plenty of other candidate countries are stricter on enforcing tax policies so that they have to pay. That's why the term \"effective tax rate\" even exists, and why it's higher in most other countries.", "https://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?DataSetCode=CTS_ETR\n\nAustralia #1 on the list.\n\nEven if we only look at income tax, their income tax rate is [45% over 180k](https://www.ato.gov.au/rates/individual-income-tax-rates/). US is [37% over ~523k](https://taxfoundation.org/publications/federal-tax-rates-and-tax-brackets/).\n\nAnd there's more on the list than that.", "No I didn't. Please go reread what I said and then you try again.\n\nEdit: Since you edited I'll edit too...\n\nYour anecdotal experience with taxes does not negate the reality that the effective tax rate in the US is smaller than a most of the other countries people might want to move to.", "First, you're saying EFT not ETR. Maybe just a typo. \n\nSecond, you're literally arguing that peer reviewed statistics for normalizing tax rates across multiple currencies and economies is just \"made up\"\n\nMoney is made up, as are words. Everything in society is \"made up\". That doesn't change whether or not those things are valid within the systems they're created for. \n\nThe numbers from OECD are perfectly fine and are evidenced thoroughly. I'm sorry you're upset that thousands of tax and economy experts disagree with you, but that doesn't make you right.\n\nIf you have a problem with it you're going to have to prove the OECD wrong, not me. Good luck with that.", "Again, I'm not the one you have to disprove. Take your qualms up with the OECD. If you've got a better source, post it. Otherwise hush up." ]	57	videos	The 12 Myths About Taxing the Rich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW9gS69bRGY	/r/videos/comments/qd5abb/incredible_scenes_of_riots_between_fans_and/	[ "Metallica deserves as much credit as Reagan for ending the Cold War.", "I had no idea how close to the fall of the soviet union this gig was. like 2-3 months before. crazy", "Very ac dc sound to the opening band.", "Yikes bad move on the Soviet authorities letting this go through.\n\nEssentially the fans realized they had nothing to fear from the goon squad, and the goons were put in the position of having to be private security for Western Capitalist rock bands -- kind of letting both groups know the end is here.", "My man, it was known long before this that the end of the USSR was here. Germany was less than a month away from reuniting for example, everyone knew it was over.", "Whenever I hear \"Monsters of Rock\" I think of Pantera's Performance not Metallica's. I can't be the only one, right?", "And Metallica doesn’t bear any responsibility for perpetuating the Cold War or exploiting people through fear." ]	7	videos	Incredible Scenes of Riots Between Fans and Soviet Soldiers at Monsters of Rock '91 (Where Metallica Famously Played)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dap5Kmg2kpU	/r/videos/comments/qd5pk5/perfect_blue_cinematography/	[ "Excuse me, who are you?", "I don't watch much anime, but I watched Perfect Blue.\n\nWeird ass film, but excellent.", "Saw this in the theater, was amazing", "For people that haven't seen this, go watch it. Not many films keep their relevantly 24 years later... I would even argue that this is more relevant now than when it came out.", "Sigh, when will Japanese animators start making meaningful art again?\n\nI feel, now that Studio Kyoto burned down, it's essentially all over.", "Satoshi kon influenced a lot\n\nThere's a every frame a painting that shows how a lot of imagery from the four films he did really impacted Christopher Nolan\n\nSome stuff straight up feels like theft" ]	6	videos	Perfect Blue \| Cinematography
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qd5rhn/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qd5rhn/deleted_by_user/	[ "He handled that well.", "More like a creek than a well", "welcome to 2008" ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qd5x24/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qd5x24/deleted_by_user/	[ "I’m going to go out on a limb here. But I think there’s a small chance that they were deliberately trying to be cringe worthy. You just can’t explain Zelda otherwise.", "As far as training videos go, this one is actually pretty good. Zelda was written that way deliberately and she nailed it, IMO.", "Thats correct", "\"Keeps 'em Coming Back\"", "I like Zelda.", "I never knew Zelda was so gangsta \n\nNo wonder that pimp ass Link was down with her yo", "Don't hate the playa, hate the game (crazy)" ]	7	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/cPo-AAm-bzg	/r/videos/comments/qd72jo/primus_best_cover_of_a_song_ive_ever_heard/	[ "Guy absolutely kills it.", "Thats what I'm sayyyying! It could be passed off as the real thing to a person who hasn't spent much time listening to primus imo.", "If anyone needs me I will be thinking about how good the OG Tony Hawk Pro Skater was", "Randy Quaid is talented.", "Lmaoo", "Yep that was note for note. If you didn't say it was a cover I would have thought it was off the album.", "This is what Primus would sound like if Ler was turned up past 6.", "Les Claypool is a GOAT\n\nPrimus sucks", "xD", "Damn, that’s something else!", "Sounds great, but doesn’t compare to the 6 string fretless bass sound.", "Shitter was full", "This was pretty good.", "Primus Sucks", "THPS players stand up", "Still can't understand a single thing being said.", "wow really good", "Holy shit, that was really good! Dude absolutely nailed it.", "I wonder what that electric drum set up is", "It really is bizarre how good it was", "Primus sucks!", "My friends and I played it for uncountable hours and I wouldn’t take a second back.\n\nSimpler times!", "That's where I remember the song from! Thank you!", "Went into this thinking yeah right, left thinking yeah! right!", "I know Les being amazing is a given, but I always feel like Ler's parts would be really tough to play." ]	25	videos	[Primus] Best cover of a song I've ever heard...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UHBJDSwlBc	/r/videos/comments/qd751q/remember_cartoon_cartoon_friday_on_cartoon_network/	[ "This was what Friday nights were about!", "Before my family got basic cable, it was One Saturday Morning on ABC for me.", "Does anyone remember what a cartoon?", "Been there too. I remember waking up Sunday mornings turning on the tv wishing it was somehow Saturday again.. only for it to be Jesus channel…", "You just unlocked a memory for me!", "Hey remember Saturday morning cartoons? How about the weekday afternoon cartoons right after school? Duck Tales, Tailspin, He-man, Smurfs, Chip n Dales Rescue rangers, TMNT, Gargoyles, Batman, etc etc...", "I've been watching a lot of [this](http://www.myretrotvs.com) lately", "No, they are dead now.", "[It's Friday Night!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AH6QWK6z6Q)", "Yup! Love me some Cow and Chicken!", "nostalgia hit me hard...times have changed.", "That was super cool. Just wasted like 20 minutes", "nothing feels good anymore", "If you want a website to watch old cartoon network, www.toonamiaftermath.com\n\nThey have two different channels with different rotating schedules similar to what cartoon network did back in the day. And they play old commercials as well. Old video game ads and mcdonalds happy meal ads.", "www.toonamiaftermath.com\n\nIf you are feeling nostalgic for old school Cartoon Network." ]	15	videos	Remember Cartoon Cartoon Friday on Cartoon Network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2oARPfSbcs	/r/videos/comments/qd76oh/super_bad_party_ring_commercial/	[ "Is this real?", "In for 2", "I'm assuming it was meant to keep your cocaine inside." ]	3	videos	Super Bad Party Ring commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBIX_Y-fT24&ab_channel=letmeatice9	/r/videos/comments/qd7f7v/the_dog_walked_itself_home_ate_a_pizza_and_took_a/	[ "I do that all the time, where's my celebratory news report?", "You dirty dog.", "Hot rod is an amazing film", "Ok? And? What's your point?", "Sully, you chode! I owe you a kick to the nuts.", "Where is the dog", "Runs over raccoon, “oh man, I can’t wait to tell sully!" ]	7	videos	The dog walked itself home, ate a pizza and took a nap.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KMtrY6lbjcY&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/qd7fts/is_your_privacy_an_illusion_taking_on_big_tech/	[ "Yes.", "This guy really is smart.", "Not so smart that I'd buy the app he's developing though." ]	4	videos	Is Your Privacy An Illusion? (Taking on Big Tech) - Smarter Every Day 263
https://youtu.be/36XI8z37kfA	/r/videos/comments/qd7kzd/mv22b_osprey_part_deux/	[ "It's at 2:20 ish and it's not a real tiger. Very disappointing.", "[ Jump to 02:20 @ MV-22B Osprey Part Deux](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36XI8z37kfA&t=0h2m20s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Eric Jensen, Video Popularity: 100.00%, Video Length: [02:56])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@02:15](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36XI8z37kfA&t=0h2m15s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "there are a ton of far more efficient ways to kill US Marines than the Osprey, but those don't cost the taxpayer nearly as much money." ]	3	videos	MV-22B Osprey Part Deux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsGYh8AacgY	/r/videos/comments/qd8pir/charlie_the_unicorn/	[ "Really? This is like 15 years old and it was questionably funny back then.", "Damn, who stole your kidney?", "Shun the non believer!\n\nShuuunnnn", "They took my >!fricken kidney!<", "Classic.", "Lol, I just commented this yesterday about cheese.\n\nhttps://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/qcgupd/whats_a_popular_food_or_drink_that_you_dislike/hhfzw28/?context=3", "[You are not worthy of The Millipede](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbF9nLhOqLU&t=93s).", "Agreed.\n\nWelp, I guess our work is done. Adam and Eve weren't half as certain when they named the Pranda!", "I read this in Charlie's voice. You are now part of the fabric of the internet.", "Let's not forget the follow-up \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFCSXr6qnv4", "candy mountain! candy mountain!", "..and if you require more\n\nhttps://youtu.be/eaCCkfjPm0o", "let's", "Shhhhunnnnn", "It's entirely possible that I've made references to one of these videos 100 times in the past decade or two. Today's younger audiences might not get those references, I'm all for exposing them.", "Much funnier in Sicilian xD", "hated it then, hat it now. this shit and annoying orange were just sooo annoying when they came out.", "But wait, there’s more \n\nhttps://youtu.be/wbF9nLhOqLU", "Why is everyone cool with this? This is a repost bot. Downvote it.", "My mind was blown when it was revealed who/what Red and Blue are!", "[Oh, no. Anyway](https://youtu.be/UnyBJJI2eqs)", "They've released 4 more episodes so far \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HvyUSZcDk4", "I think the things they're able to do and the horrors they inflict on people was pretty suggestive of that.\n\nAlthough I haven't discounted the possibility that the entire finale storyline is just another big prank by them.", "He's gonna wake up and find out that they stole the whole forest", "Chaaaaaaaaarliiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeee", "Damn this takes me back", "\"Those aren't unicorns, they're corpses puppeted by demons\" yeah that makes sense.", "Suddenly i realize that my 15 year old self had no sense of humor whatsoever", "That you didn't get the humor when you were 15, or that you don't get the humor now as an adult?", "Spoilers!", "There. Better?", "Whatever gets classic shit in front of new viewers...", "high karma account complaining about low karma account\n\ndon't worry dude, the karma will keep flowing", "This and llamas with hats!", "He has some comment karma on a 6 year old account, not millions of post karma like the bots.", "Yeah, now I also have to search for Salad Finger from David Firth. Then it’s like 2007 again.\nHere he is! https://youtu.be/M3iOROuTuMA\nAnd he still likes rusty spoons.", "This is still hilarious to this day IMO.\n\nNot only that, it's absurd and in many ways, unbelievably creative. It's not easy to pull off genuinely good \"random\" humor, it tends to come off as really forced and awkward (and therefore not funny).\n\nCharlie the Unicorn does not have that problem, it's always such a wild ride, and you truly never know what to expect or what's going on. It walks the line brilliantly, where there's just enough coherence in the story that the insanity can remain effective, it's honestly quite well written.", "Shun the nonbelieverrrrr", "undisputed classic, but i never saw the appeal", "During our first dance at our wedding, my wife and I kept whispering quotes like 'liopleurodon charlie!' and 'candy mountain'. Kept us smiling and distracted from thinking about everyone watching us.", "ssssssssssshuuun", "The non-believer", "I wonder if this is what we feel should we be put in a k-hole" ]	43	videos	Charlie the Unicorn
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qd8rfc/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qd8rfc/deleted_by_user/	[ "Trespasser remastered!!!", "TUROK IS BACK BABYYYY! YUSS YUSS YUSS YUSS.", "Looks pretty cool, but what was with those bats?", "Not a feather in sight. Tsk tsk", "This looks neat", "I think it was meant as slow motion.. but it caught me off guard as well..", "Short bit of gameplay looked like they were trying to hide a generic stiff game that will be on sale for $6.99 six months after release.", "All my life, I have dared to go past what is instinct.", "Big meh energy.", "A few points.\n\n1. Fucking stupid title, Jesus Christ.\n2. Horror game with full automatic weapons...... it's an action game.\n3. Gameplay looks boring as hell, generic walking shots then doing nothing while a raptor runs at you?\n4. Main character seems to have anime breasts WTF?\n\nmeh.", "discerning taste, I agree", "I'll stick to replaying Jurassic: The Hunted for the PS2" ]	14	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzPGUn8P5MQ	/r/videos/comments/qd8xeu/point_blank_with_a_blank_gun_is_it_really/	[ "Ask Alec Baldwin", "Putting your head next to a directed explosion is never a good idea, regardless of projectile involvement.", "Well this is a fucking tasteless post.", "I mean, not really. It's timely. Hopefully seeing this will prevent someone from being injured or doing something really stupid.", "How is it tasteless? I mean it is a safety video explaining to people that Blank guns are not toys and are still dangerous, proving you should still not \"play\" around with them.", "Or Brandon Lee.", "Ask the late Jon-Eric Hexum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon-Erik_Hexum. Oh, wait. He killed himself with a blank gun shot to the temple on the set." ]	7	videos	Point Blank With a Blank Gun: Is It Really Dangerous?
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qd9ucn/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qd9ucn/deleted_by_user/	[ "Didn't take long.", "Is the girl in the bottom left the waitress from the first avengers?", "yeah i was gonna say.. she rings a bell but i can't work out who she is. like a girl from a sitcom or something. I can picture he like 8 -9 years old in a sitcom...", "Ashley Johnson?\n\nShe's a well established and very successful actor / voice actor. She was in Growing Pains as a kid so that may be where you know her but she's more recently done Blindspot, and yes she was the waitress in Avengers. As far as voice acting goes she was Gretchen in Recess and more recently Ellie from The Last of Us.\n\nThese are just examples I can list off the top of my head. There are many many more things she's done", "Yep! Growing pains that's it! Thanks mate. It was doing my head in", "tldr - yes", "Probably her most famous VA role is Ellie from The Last of Us 1 and 2", "\"YOU CAN TELL THEM THAT ELLIE IS THE NAME OF THE LITTLE GIRL THAT BROKE YOUR FUCKING FINGER\"\n\nIMO She absolutely nailed that role, and it is one of her finest.", "Can someone give context?", "Sam Riegel, basically.", "The stream is from Critical Role, a Dungeons and Dragons show. This is the first episode of their new campaign, which tends to introduce a new setting and characters. \n \nSpeaking in the top-right corner is Sam Riegel. He's an Emmy-winning voice actor. His character's name is \"Fresh Cut Grass\", and claims this name comes from one of his creator's favorite smells.", "Last night, the first episode of Campaign 3 of Critical Role aired, a Twitch show where voice actors play Dungeons and Dragons. Campaign 1, you've probably heard, is being animated as a cartoon on Amazon Prime.\n\nThe guy in the clip is giving his character's backstory. He's playing a robot, and revealing why his name is \"Fresh Cut Grass.\"\n\nIt's as intentionally stupid as it sounds.", "Thanks for putting the joke in the title. I'd hate to be surprised by something humorous.", "Reminds me of campaign 2, Episode 56, [love this animation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a40snl93w_w) another redditor did of it as well.", "Makes me think of the WKUK [Pussy Salad](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0IYfPODmUU)", "Where she went from being a baby one season to 8 years old the next.", "Lol the punchline in the title was the funniest part /s", "She's also more famously the voice/mocap actress for Ellie in The Last of Us games", "It alludes to the punchline so strongly that, once we hear the set-up (\"we were named after favourite smells...\"), we already know how the joke will end, so it has no impact.", "You're a pussy", "but you smell like one", "Jokes on you I love rotten fish", "Oh shit I didn’t know that", "Context as in I know nothing about anything that’s going on here and why that would be funny", "I did not know that was a thing thanks for the explanation appreciate it" ]	24	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtube.com/watch?v=b9Y4bmbh1KY&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/qda1jb/rolex_oyster_cosmograph_documentation_ca_1971/	[ "I totally remember seeing this", "I think this makes up for draft #7", "Best I can do is $3.50", "he paid almost $400 back in 70s and now worth $500,000 - $700,000 in auction.", "Could you do 7 bucks?", "Make it $5.5 and you've got a deal.", "How do you sell such a Rolex?", "sick bro I watched the video too", "$400 in 1971 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $2,709.23 today, an increase of $2,309.23 over 50 years.", "I gotta get it framed and matted and there is no telling how long it will take for me to sell this... I take all the risk! Besides the sticker on the back is slightly peeled up it's far from perfect!", "Well summbich, that was a rabbit hole.\n\nI just spent the last 4 hours watching antiques roadshow videos.", "Antique roadshow fiction.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3bzmCfBh6k", "I didn't and I appreciate it.", "I read he died on the drive home. Emt stole the watch and sold it for weed. Weed dealer sold it for blow. Blow dealer sold it for pussy. Hooker drowned in a river later that day wearing the watch. Jim Carey found the watch floating on some seaweed. He put it on and hisnhand turned bright green. It was hilarious.", "A what", "This is clearly bullshit. First of all that's obviously not NOS you can tell it's worn & in \"OK\" condition. And it's almost certainly not been in a safety deposit box for 30+ years. $400 in the 70's is like around $3000 today. Realistically that watch is probably worth I'm guessing around 100k. So still stupidly valuable but not \"obscenely\" so. And that's today's prices - this video is a few years old and Rolex's have since shot up in price so it could have been like 50-70k back then\n\nThat's effectively $1,000 a year or so profit since he bought it. Had you invested the same money in let's say in a Dow Jones tracked fund you'd be up twice that in a shorter amount of time", "Fuck off dipshit", "Auctions", "I think living through 'nam makes up for draft #7.", "Think about how much trash you could have picked up during that time.\n\nNow think about how much you could have littered during that time.", "At auction. \n\nSothebys usually auctions properly like this. They hold specialist auctions, collect the lots and send catalogs out to frequent bidders. \n\nItems like this are investments and, to a degree, tax avoidance. The rarer the watch, the more safe the investment is. A watch like the one in the clip, there isn’t another in the world in that condition, and Rolex is the safest investment in the watch world with a higher APR than a bank or even gold.", "idk guys do I trust a random dude on the internet or a professional appraiser on a trusted public tv channel?!?", "Is that Ed Begley Jr. in disguise?", "\"Rolex is the safest investment in the watch world\"\n\nLmao, certain Rolex's models sure. But as a blanket statement no. And there are brands that certainly are a much better investment (if you can somehow buy it)", "And are now considerably more expensive even when accounting for inflation. Submariner starts at like 8k, a Daytona starts at like 28k.", "Weird considering you made this comment about 2 hours after the post was made.\n\n\nEdit: (God damn people this was a joke comment, give him a break he exaggerated a bit lol)", "I was being a bit facetious. So that particular model is rare wrt to the dial, lume markers etc. But the blank papers are not good if anything it bring down the value.\n\nI would guess the dude probably bought the papers (or some of them) separately from somewhere to make it more a complete. And it's fucking obvious it's not NOS. Also, his story is a bit confusing.\n\nHe was in the air force and pilots wore Daytona's? The Daytona at the time was not a particularly popular watch. And then he says he bought it for scuba diving? The Daytona is hardly water proof. Yeah it's the Oyster variant but actually using the Chrono underwater would destroy it lol. So he can't actually time his dives so why wouldn't he have bought a more \"sensible\" roving watch instead.\n\nTo me that set of circumstances is fishy enough not to trust anything the dude days. Yeah the watch alone is still valuable, no doubt about that. But it's not the complete package, far from it. Especially is such strange circumstances - if the guarantee papers are genuine then maybe the box isn't etc etc. If he did do that then he still did a very good job at buying period correct and consistent paperwork tbf lol.", "you're wrong", "I’m not actually sure which brands you view as better investments.\n\nThere are certainly more expensive brands, like Richard Mille, who have very uncertain investment value.\n\nCertain specific models can increase in value and provide similar investment returns to a Rolex, but not consistently. Vintage Omega Speedmasters or Seamasters. Blancpain Fifty Fathoms Aqualungs. Patek Philippe Nautilus. \n\nBut no other brand increases in value as reliably as Rolex. \n\nPersonally I’d be looking at Heuer Bundeswehr and Tornek-Rayville as specific models to invest in outside of Rolex. But at $100k plus, I doubt I’ll even get a bid on a Tornek. The easiest and quickest investment today is just a plain old steel Rolex submariner.", "whoops lol someone exaggerated a bit...", "On the internet? nooooo", "Mind blown", "Or you know, you can practice a bit of skepticism toward video made for entertainment value 1st.\n\nThere a quite a few professionals that have called a lot of the claims in the video out, and the real value is MUCH lower than the video makes you believe.", "Seen it before here, but it's worth a second watch...", "YouTube time dilation", "He was watching at double speed…", "Still kinda a funny ahole", "Imagine if he knocked the table over when he fell back and the watch broke and the building in the background caught on fire?", "Hm is it only me who feels like the 400k to 500-700k range feels weird?\n\nA watch like this, where there are probably a lot more, is 400k. But this one of a kind one that might be the only one in the world, that can never be made again, pure uniqueness, is only like 20-30% more?\n\nUsually when it comes to collectors with money, that little difference between the very top and the space below it, can mean differences you won't believe. Even in games where items can roll different stats, an item that has near perfect stats can be worth say X of something, and then the perfect version suddenly is worth 1000X. Not because it's 1000 times better, but just because it is the very best and that little difference draws out all the rich competition.", "Past performance is not indicative of future results.\n\nCollectible discussions seem to forget that and it´s overestimated how easy it is to predict trends.", "They had another one where it was a patek pocket watch that they appraised for like 300k or something, sold for over a million. I’m sure they are conservative in their estimates.", "Daytona in SS is $13,150 retail.", "True.\n\nAll investment has risk attached. \n\nThe difference with physical assets like art, or collectibles like watches, is you can insure the asset against damage, theft and depreciation.\n\nAnd, with the right accountant, it’s untaxed income once shifted into a physical asset.\n\nThe same is not true of the stock market or similar forms of investment. \n\nBasically luxury watches are part of a different economy that benefits people with a lot of liquid funds that they want to reduce tax and increase the value of. Or, in some cases, just a method of straight up tax evasion or transfer of wealth (fund transfers, currency exchange, inheritance etc) with lower tax liability. \n\nNobody should recommend you invest in watches to make a profit just from appreciating assets.", "This watch now has a cult following due to the Antiques Roadshow segment. This alone is going to add move value again as it adds to its story. If it really is one of the best of its kind in the world, then the sky is literally the limit for it at Auction.", "Also near impossible to get at retail unfortunately.", "I don't know how unfortunate that is. Never been a Rolex fan although I do own a black/gold Daytona and a oysterquartz. I wish more people would turn away from Rolex because of the shortage and onto better brands.", "eBay", "Not to mention the overhead!", "Etsy", "[Here is Antiques Roadshow podcast Detours episode regarding this watch and another Rolex they had on the show.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGT4ulGv9yA&ab_channel=AntiquesRoadshowPBS)", "Carboot sale", "\"Great! Wanna buy it from me?\"", "And can you deliver it? I live right across town. (Had that several times on Kijiji. Yeah, ten bucks in gas to deliver a ten dollar item.)", "is it worth a rolex watch?", "Good thing he put it in a safe deposit box and didn't have Walken take care of it for him", "The sticker he claims is \"unquestionably a dealer sticker\" and \"has a price written on it\" [clearly says $384](https://imgur.com/O1AwvMT), which matches the price on the receipt, given the 10% discount. \n\nHe says he thinks a Daytona would have costed more than a month's wages in 1971, but [here's an ad from 1976 for the same watch at $500](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0809/1255/products/1976Daytona1.jpg?v=1569942215). \n\nI don't know about the other points, but I'm having a hard time taking his word for it after hearing those.", "he just doesn't have a rolex oyster cosmograph to tell him how long it has actually been.", "What's a better brand?", "Didn't you hear the man! it's worth 2!", "Mr. Bean?", "As someone who respects the craft and engineering of watches, but don't know anything about brands and don't even own a watch; why are other brands better than Rolex?", "In 1971 an E-5 with 3 years of service made about $350 a month.", "Depends on what you are going for. If you want extremely similar Tudor is basically the same, down to be owned by the same company.\n\nThen you have other big names like Omega and Breitling that make similar stuff to the basic Rolex. Personally for me the Grand Seiko and Piaget is the best watch company in the $7,000-$10,000 dollar range. The GS spring drive is an incredible movement and provides a much smoother sweeping second hand than Rolex which Beats at 10 per socond compared to the Rolex 8. 8 is very common on decent watches and isn't anything special anymore.\n\nFor Piaget the Polo is a fantastic option, especially the chronograph ones.\n\nThe only category Rolex absolutely dominates is the status symbol category. Even people that know absolutely nothing about watches will recognize a Rolex, which is why even serious watch collectors like myself will wear one. My Daytona is recognized by basically everything and was fantastic at getting a women's attention when I was single. Yet if I was wearing my most expensive watch, a Piaget that cost 10 times with the Daytona cost virtually nobody would recognize it is as anything special.", "Something something glass house\n\nsomething something own medicine", "Bdum tiss, take my upvote and get out of here dad.", "This guy just speculates a bunch and googles inflation? Took him more than half a 12 minute video to even start trying make his point and was a huge letdown. Seems like he’s trying to ride the viral popularity of the other video.", "The absolute state of the world.\n\nThat programme solely exists because it makes money.", "Rolex is nice, there is simply a lot of better options for the price. The SS datejust is basically a $2,000 watch with a $5,000 logo added.", "Crane game", "I've seen it 4-5 times. I like it, it warms the cockles of my heart. (do hearts have cockles? what is a cockle? why are we here? who are we? ah, life. so mysterious.)", "This is just more fluff and bigging up, not content", "Well. A physical asset is a physical asset. Stock is financial, and more clearly regulated.\n\nSo, with a physical asset, there are a few ways to avoid tax on income. Purchase it via a business entity, with directly reduces taxation on company income. Purchase it in a foreign country with a Swiss account, then bring it back on your wrist declaring the value as whatever you want. Gift the asset to family. Reduce your end of year income through purchases like small expense assets, reducing the tax you pay. \n\nBear in mind most folk buying this type of asset are not American. It’s more popular with Europeans or Russians as a form of tax reduction. \n\nI’m not an accountant, and rules really depend on which country you officially reside in. For instance if you declare your primary residence as Monaco you’re pretty much tax free. \n\nBasically the world of taxation for the 1% is a murky and corrupt world.", "Looks worn to me - whats all that crap on the back? Face even has slight blemish on the left side.", "I love how the top comment is this trash. Reddit will really upvote anything without looking into it themselves. This guy is full of shit.", "I'm beginning to feel my bits chuffing.", "Purely for timekeeping?\n\nA $60 Casio plastic watch will likely keep as good or better time than a Rolex worth x150 more but it probably won't catch the attention of anyone but overly frugal jerks like myself lol.", "\"No other brand increases in value as reliably as Rolex\"\n\nThis is the kind of certainty I have a problem with. You are predicting reliable future increase in value based on past performance. Rolex HAS increased in value but who knows about the future. Trends change and maybe Rolex brand or watch collecting falls out favour with collectors.\n\nI don't know why I got downvoted. Explain what I was wrong about.", "Does anyone know if this was ever sold at auction? I’d like to know what it went for.", "Not to a Jedi", "You couldn't be more wrong. This video is now almost 2 years old. Today, it's virtually impossible to get a \"Paul Newman\" Daytona that's in good quality and all original parts for less than $200,000. Literally, all you have to do is Google this.", "Or you could google it and see that the video is accurate...", "These aren't reasons for spending so much though, the smooth sweeping action? Who gives a fuck lol. You can save $10,000 and never be late once. They aren't good watches they are amazing works of craftmanship and that's what you pay for right?", "Kurt Russell Gandalf took that from Smaug's hoard", "Better in what respect? The holy trinity of watchmakers are Audemars Piguet, Patek Philippe, and Vacheron Constantin. They make a Rolex look like a bargain bin watch and are definitely \"better\". Funnily enough most people don't recognize they are better - only the ultra wealthy. Rolex is definitely thought of as the king of luxury watches by the middle class.\n\nBut better might also mean better value - Omega and Grand Seiko for example, or \"better at keeping time\" which would be pretty much any battery powered quartz watch, or \"better at monitoring my heart rate and sleep\" which would be a smart watch.", "> Richard Mille\n\nChrist, googled it and they look like those watches you'd buy for $1.20 and it'd be full of candy.", "Yeah, that's why I don't have one", "lol", "I'm not a watch collector like /u/WurthWhile, but I know Rolex is not even close to the best watches out there. The \"holy trinity\" of watchmaking are Audemars Piguet, Patek Philippe, and Vacheron Constantin.", "Here for this.", "Dude is full of shit saying he never wore it. The sticker is really worn and faded and there's all sorts of gunk on the back of the band. \n\nI'm sure it's still easily a 6 figure watch and appealing to collectors, but it's not as unused as he's saying. Really surprised the \"expert\" seemed to easily overlook the obvious here.", "It was all the extra shit that enhanced the value I believe.", "Only because he lived", "Question is then, would you sell it?", "I guess we should take the advice of some random redditor who knows nothing about appraising watches over the actual expert.", "On the subject of timekeeping, I recommend this great thirty-minute documentary called [The Secret Life of Clocks](https://youtu.be/Kd6m0fvlDOc). It's part of \"The Secret Life of Machines\" series by Tim Hunkin. His style of detailing the history of a mechanism, building oversized demonstrations of the mechanism, and dry humor are all quite charming.\n\nTimekeeping is all about finding something that repeats itself regularly and then converting that to a visible indicator of the time. Shadows move somewhat reliably throughout the day, and so a sundial can tell the time.\n\nBut a pendulum swings back and forth much more reliably and at a constant rate, especially big ones. So long as you have a big tower to put it in, and gears to convert that motion to the ticking round a dial, you've got yourself Big Ben and the like.\n\nMechanical watches like Rolex operate on essentially the same principle, except the pendulum is swapped out for a weight in the watch that oscillates with a known cadence. Gears are still needed to convert these motions to the movement of a watchface.\n\nA quartz crystal is special in that is piezoelectric. That means that physical deformation of the crystal generates a voltage. If we shape a quartz crystal like a tuning fork, then striking it leads to a reliable frequency of oscillation, which generates voltage pulses that can be measured. It is by far more reliable than any purely-mechanical watch. Quartz watches can still have gears in them, but they're just told what to do by the ever-reliable quartz crystal, rather than a little pendulum analog. More often than not, quartz watches have no moving parts at all, and their voltage pulses just go through circuits that tell a digital display to update.\n\nThis obviously oversimplifies things, but the point is that the best everyday timekeeping is also the cheapest. But mechanical timekeeping is cooler, and ends up costing more despite keeping time less well.", "Thank you for noting GS, I think they’re incredible pieces (and frankly have the best dials that are sub $100K IMO). However, having tried some on only the Snowflake and White Birch did it for me, I hope to own the Snowflake one day but I have some other pieces in mind before it.\n\nAdding to your write up, A Lange & Sohne is (again in IMO) the absolute peak of watchmaking, and the Zeitwerk is just the most incredible piece.\nFor a cheaper alternative, Glashutte Original has some of the best hand made pieces for its price point (~$10K), though I might be biased as I own the Panomaticlunar.\n\nI’m either going for a 3510 Speedmaster (on Chrono24) or a Datejust if I can find one somewhere.\n\nI also have a Longine Presence, Seiko cocktail time, and Tissot Le Loch Powermatic as my “backups”.\n\nIn case you haven’t seen it, I very highly recommend Hoodinkee’s Talking Watches with John Mayer episodes.", "Ah yes because it being 50 years old doesn't wear on things at all.", "I just went to the Vacheron Constantin website and the whole first row is listed as \"Price on Request.\" The highest listed price is at $134,000. This is probably one of those \"if you need to ask the price, you can't afford it\" situations.", "How can you insure a watch against depreciation? The market dictates this. If people lose interest in collecting old watches the whole thing falls through. I find the level of certainty a bit too bold here.", "And a wagon will get you to the same place a Ferrari will. A true watch enthusiast looks at the history, the mechanisms (incl. the movement), and of course the craftsmanship of a piece. Grand Seikos spring drive (which our man above mentioned) is one of a kind and is truly special.\n\nPeople (incl. myself) collect watches because they can be incredibly fascinating and something to be passionate about. Yes they can be absurdly expensive, especially compared to watches you can get for $10, but many of the higher end pieces at the very least hold their value well so you can look at it as an investment.\n\nNot many people at all will truly admire a great watch, but you shouldn’t devalue a persons interests in them just because you aren’t into it yourself (which isn’t a bad thing, different strokes for different folks). \n\nIf you are interested in understanding watches and what makes some special, I’d recommend Watchfinder on YouTube or look at Hoodinkee’s Talking Watches episode with John Mayer (the man has an insane collection, especially in the second episode with him).", "As WurthWhile commented, Rolex is expensive because of brand recognition. Their watches are still great pieces and deserve to be recognized as such but they are far from the end all be all, especially within their price range.\n\nFor example, Rolex pumps out about 800K-1M pieces a year (estimated, they don’t actually officially say) because they use a lot of automated processes. Other brands do a lot of the work by hand and only produce ~15K pieces a year, even within the same price range as a Rolex.\n\nAs many others before me have said, you wear a Rolex if you want other people to admire it (and potentially ask if it’s a fake), you wear other fantastic pieces if you want to impress yourself first and foremost.\n\nAgain, I very much respect what Rolex has done for the industry and very much plan on owning one but there are better watches out there, even cheaper.", "The Real Housewives of Orange County.", "Wow", "Not everyone has the time for that", "Thats pretty fucked that a rolex was worth 1 months salary or so. Nowadays it'd be worth like 5-7x that same person's salary. What happened to our society? We've just accepted definitely worse quality of life for the sake of slightly cheaper goods and technology? \n\nA fucking house is 400-500k now!", "[Cockles.](https://i.imgur.com/RGgilCF.jpg)", "Honestly, it’s fairly common.\n\nYou can insure your car against depreciation if you want. It’ll protect the value of the car against market forces, so you’ll get the difference between what the car should have been worth and what the market price is at the time of sale. Different insurance companies call it different things, depreciation shield, gap insurance etc. \n\nA painting, sculpture or rare watch is exactly the same. You can insure against depreciation exactly because the market may go down, but the insurer is essentially betting it won’t.\n\nIt’s useful if you’re leveraging your assets often. If you have depreciation insurance included in your loss/theft/damage package lenders are more comfortable with the loan repayment risk and give you a better rate of interest. \n\nIt’s only really a thing that done on high value goods you’re going to resell later. It doesn’t really matter what it is, but obviously if it’s not expensive it’s really not worth bothering about.", "Maybe below the cockles\nMaybe in the sub cockle area\nMaybe in the liver, maybe in the kidneys\nMaybe even in the colon, we don't know", "https://i.pinimg.com/originals/97/c1/9a/97c19ae1c0e2ca6b8611ccc4a26b59d6.gif", "That sounds interesting but wouldn’t the premiums be insane if you had something like the watch in the OP? Presumably if the watch collectors market fell through the insurance company would be on the hook for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Which rolls back around to my initial point of incredulity that you actually CAN insure assets like this in a capitalistic market. Not saying I don’t believe but that’s just crazy to me!", "Will that value remain the same once Paul Newman becomes completely irrelevant to people?", "I'd love to get my hands on an urwerk one day but I don't think I'll ever make the kind of money to afford one.", "Air America Airlines - CIA airline back then\n\n\"Another base and did some SCUBA Diving\" - Interesting.", "Rich people are dumb, change my mind", "have a poor mans gold 🥇", "Just like the videogame auctions being artificially inflated", "[Entertaining read about Seiko.](https://watchesbysjx.com/2013/06/explaining-seikos-legendary-history-in-swiss-chronometer-trials-with-live-pictures-of-its-landmark-astronomical-observatory-chronometer.html)", "It's not cheaper good or technology, it's fucking greed, corporations without proper regulation. And a greed that requires quarter over quarter gains in stock.", "\"That's not fair.... That's not fair at all. There was time now.\"", "But not enough to rub off the numbers which probably is the most important to collectors", "The guy in the video probably knows.", "The spring drive is actually an insane piece of tech. It basically uses the movement of the wearer to create a minuscule electric charge which is transferred to a quartz tuning fork which is used to keep the time in the same way as a quartz watch. \n\n\nThe result is the best of both wristwatch worlds. You get the accuracy of the quartz timekeeping which is accurate to 1/15th of a second every day without needing to replace a battery because it doesnt use one.", "Yep, I would add A. Lange to that list he had as well. All of those companies start at 6 figures with their watches and have models that are several millions per watch.", "Once you get into the uber luxury watches you get things like perpetual calendars, which is a watch that wont need to have the date set for several hundred years. I think Patek has one that will keep the date accurate also showing the day of the week until like 2299 or something without any adjustments. You also get thinks like a dial that shows the phases of the moon along with the time or a bunch of different things. They are also often done in a smaller package. An AP royal oak is under 10 mm thick while a rolex datejust is like 14 mm thick. \n\n\nLike compare something like a JLC Reverso dual face to any rolex and you will instantly see the differences in quality.", " I’ve seen one episode of this show in my life, and it was the episode that this segment came from lol. Did they ever do a follow up?", ">not a fan of Rolex\n\n>owns 30 grand OF Rolex\n\nI wish my wealth was on your level.", "but you have time to walk around and hit balls in to holes for hours", "I suppose it’s a combination of things.\n\nFirstly. I didn’t say the brand would always increase in price, just that it’s the only brand that reliably does. Current tense, not future. \n\nSecondly. What you’re stating is a truism. It doesn’t add anything to the conversation.\n\nThirdly. When people are asking why the valuation of a watch is what it is, and how it’s sold, they are not asking for commentary on the economic inevitability things will drop in value at some point. Everything is eventually worthless and we all die is true, but that’s not necessarily what people want to hear. \n\nI actually agreed with you. I was polite and added some more thoughts. Not sure why I’m to blame for people not finding your comment interesting or why you’re demanding I explain myself.", "If I needed the money, sure, otherwise ...fuck no. If it's worth that much now, imagine how much more it's going to be worth in a few years.", "I didn't demand explanation from you. I was hoping someone would reply with explanation.", "Shrug \n\nIt’s Reddit. Sometimes people vote comments up, sometimes down. \n\nIt’s not really too important.", "I wasn't worried about karma. I wanted to learn.", "Wtf this is my home town lol", "Good for him.", "It'll take more than a few years to gain much value. You could take that $500-700k and invest it in something fairly secure and make the same if not more and that would be much more liquid. I'm selling.", "I binged everyone of these I could find on their YT channel. One of my favorite all time shows.", "He never wore it? How do you buy an expensive watch and then just never wear it? Not even once?", "...did you watch the video?\n\nhe literally said AUCTION 3 or 4 times\n\nsheeesh", "actually, that would be a GREAT clip to test those Pawn Shop dudes\n\nafter he knows what he's got...to then bring it to them and see what they say about it. \n\nWonder if they'd try to pull some fuckery with the guy.", "Of course you sell it", "hell a $10 digital with a picture of the ninja turtles on the dial will keep better time than any mechanical movement.", "Being 50 years old and sitting in a safe deposit box at a bank for almost all of that shouldn’t induce any wear, no.", "wtf did I even just read?\n\n>My Daytona is recognized by basically everything and was fantastic at getting a women's attention when I was single\n\nIs there a watch movement that will help you climb out of your own ass hole?", "> Not many people at all will truly admire a great watch, but you shouldn’t devalue a persons interests in them just because you aren’t into it yourself (which isn’t a bad thing, different strokes for different folks).\n\nI browsed /r/Watches for a while and yes you absolutely can. The majority of watch enthusiasts are elitist assholes. OP being a perfect example.", "I'd pay double for a watch that Walken had keistered.", "Have you not seen what simple air does to things? Those safe deposit boxes are not vacuums.", "[This looks like the same watch](https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-6200140) (ref: 6263, like in the video)", "If that ever happened, it would never air.", "How much does the govt take when you sell it?", "I'm gonna have to pay a guy just to make room on the shelf for it", "they could bring their own camera crew though\n\nwould be brilliant", "I dunno tho. For one there is a picture of the back of the watch (presumably?) and it says 6262. And it's not a foil sticker as highlighted in the video. Also the description says \"property of an important Italian private collector.\" And there is no mention of any of the documents from the video (although those could very well be sold separately.)\n\nI am going to go on the notion that this is NOT the watch from the video, mainly because it only sold for $488,000 and I want so much more for our friend here.", "I wonder what an oyster dome top from the late 50s is worth with a blank guarantee and original case.", "Another Redditor posted a link to an auction site that had the watch (same model, serial number and manufacture year) listed as having sold for 447k Swiss franks in 2019 when the dollar was the same value as the frank", "Sotheby’s", "Watch me sell it", "best I can do is 3k in store credit", "I would be listing it in my car when I got to the parking lot", "How is he being an elitist asshole?", "He was simply providing anecdotal evidence on the power the name Rolex has. He has better watches but looks fancier to common people because they only know how to recognize a Rolex. Like younger sister recognizing Katy Perry and having no clue who Johnny Cash is.", "Interesting. He pegged it at about a month's wages and so I figured around $2,000.", ">The only category Rolex absolutely dominates is the status symbol category.\n\nI agree that they don't have the same technical level of watchmaking as other brands, but they make very robust workhorse movements. I don't think you could abuse other watches the way you can abuse a rolex.", "Here's 5\n\nhttps://chrono24.app/rolex/rolex-daytona-6263-big-red--id20647856.htm?SETLANG=en_GB&SETCURR=GBP\n\nhttps://chrono24.app/rolex/rolex-daytona-ref-6263-big-red-original-box--id20111848.htm?SETLANG=en_GB&SETCURR=GBP\n\nhttps://chrono24.app/rolex/rolex-daytona-6263-cosmograph--id21154107.htm?SETLANG=en_GB&SETCURR=GBP\n\nhttps://www.1stdibs.co.uk/jewelry/watches/wrist-watches/rolex-daytona-6263-mens-stainless-steel-watch/id-j_9363172/\n\nhttps://www.ukspecialistwatches.co.uk/shop/rolex-watches/rolex-daytona-cosmograph-6265-vintage-1972/", "value drops down if it's been worn. Goes way up if it's worn Walken like a winter coat", ">My Daytona is recognized by basically everything and was fantastic at getting a women's attention when I was single.\n\nare you capable of reading?", "The dude is like 60. Of course you sell it. That would supplement his retirement and VA/SS checks so he could probably live a pretty lavish lifestyle in his twilight years.", "Why is Dumbledore staring at the Penguin's watch?", "That stunt he pulled pretending to faint was such a risky move. Imagine if he accidentally hit the table doing that faint and the watch fall and break???", "I'm just a regular Joe with a regular job, I'm your average white, suburbanite slob....I like football and porno and books about war, I've got an average house with a nice hardwood floor...", "Ive actually seen episodes where the appraiser straight up says \"Ill buy this off you, or I know someone personally that will buy this off you\"", "What he is saying is true, everyone recognized a rolex and a daytona is one of Rolex's signature models whereas only people into watches would recognize a Panerai or something.\n\nAnd yes, a rolex is a great way to get some women attention. Doesn't seem elitist to me. FYI I am also literate.", "Don't forget the best one, it's not on youtube or it comes and goes at least...\n\nhttps://www.pbs.org/video/antiques-roadshow-coming-monday-october-1-109c-simply-best/", "Same. Never heard of it before, but I can't fathom why anyone would feel the need to pay upwards of $1 million for a watch that looks like it plays the spiderman theme when you click the button", "Alibaba", "The Kanye West one is really cool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6se2lGrxhI", "Yeah he said in the video that those are usually the first things to fade out when wearing the watch. This kinda proves it was rarely ever worn.", "Or stashed in his doo-doo flesh pocket 🤣", "I get that this stuff is akin to art, all about style, collecting. I know a few people that are in to watches. But I always like to poke fun at them, reminding them that these thousands of dollars watches keep worse time than a $5 mickey mouse quartz watch.", "I don't think it is. There listing says the clasp is stamped 2 / 71 where this one is 1 / 71. Also says the watch in the auction is signed.", "Thats why i buy my watches off r/RepTime", "It's a classic", "The one you linked is 6262 not 6263", "The one in the video is hardly \"mint condition\" and the box and papers are suspicious. I don't place much value on them. Again I was mostly being tongue in cheek, if you're trying to buy a vintage Daytona you're not going off of Chrono24 but you get my idea. The dude A) \"knows what he's got\" and B) is overplaying what he's got. I don't think anyone genuinely believes his story. Of that doesn't match up the whole thing is fishy what else is he lying about. IMO the blank guarantee card is a massive red flag that screams run away if I was a collector", "That's a good question", "Only if you don't wear it.", "This reminds me of a spectacular show in German TV called „Bares für Wahres“ meaning something like „Cash for the real deal“. Despite the title, the show is not trashy, but a little gem. The appraisers and dealers are fair, where people from the region of each shows venue bring in the old stuff from the attic and little family treasures. Some only want to know more about their items, other ones want to sell it\n\nThey’ve guests brought a cross from around 1700 made out of much gold and 40ct diamonds. But the kicker was the inside, behind the papal seal there was a real splinter of the cross of Jesus Christ, at least that what the specialists thought. The appraiser and antique dealers were speechless. The sellers where idiots though and sold it for just a 42,000€ / $ 49,000, so much below it’s worth. \nHere is the show, but it’s just in German: https://youtu.be/0-anv7wfLdU", "Genuine question, why do people buy these kinds of things at auction? You always see these stories of some antique niche thing being auctioned for an insanely high price, and while I can understand a rich person wanting to buy one, they're bought by collectors, so I take it these collectors have several other variations of the same thing (in this case, I guess other Rolex watches). But why would you dedicate so much to several watches? And if the answer is investing, then why invest in watches compared to any other items like paintings, cars, etc. And are all watch collectors just collecting watches for investing, hoping to sell to other investors, or are there people out there who are just rich enough and really into watches that want these kinds of watches?", "I thought the same thing! “He’s seen some things, man”", "I'm an asshole!", "Looks like you’re right.", "Whoops.", "Congrats. Go tell the people of r/IHaveSex, idiot.", "I also wonder what % of people back then had that kind of money to spend on a collector's item. And then there is the fact that the collector's market wasn't what it is today. There was no guarantee that such a watch would increase in value. Just thoughts.", "Uber-uber luxury watch: has a tourbillon", "That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch.", "WOO! WOOWOO! WOO!", "Not usually. That is a new trend as a tourbillon doesnt really have a point on a wrist watch but some companies have been bringing it back just because it looks fancy.", "> Lmao, certain Rolex's models sure. But as a blanket statement no.\n\n\"Rolex Sport Watches\" would basically be an accurate qualifier for that. And especially basically any daytona like the one in this video.", "not 6263", ">\tBut amongst the rules of the contest, one governing the provenance of the timepiece stands out. It reads: “All parts used to build the movement must be made within Europe.”\n\nThat’s actually hilarious", "Yep.\n\nWhile Paul Newmans name may be attached to this in a way, this is more about scarcity, just like almost any collectible. It's value is such because there are very few of them, it's in great quality, and includes all the original boxes and paperwork that came with it.", "This type of attitude is why you will always remain and be poor.", "It’s all about personal taste. Rolex carries the instant name brand recognition, but there are plenty of other manufacturers that charge 10k+ for a watch. For me personally, my grail watch would be an IWC.", "Nice. Those were oyster spectacles.", "He literally said in the video that it was too nice and he was worried about damaging it.", "> an increase of $2,309.23 over 50 years.\n\nWhat's your point?", "Or because you have a phone for time telling", "except the white panda like in the video on the grey market for $37-$42k and basically impossible to buy at retail cost. I've been hunting for one for years and had no luck. My fiance's parents have bought 7-8 rolex's over the past 20 years from the same dealer, when I had them ask their dealer if they could get me a modern daytona their dealer laughed and said good luck maybe in a decade or two. \n\n\nSo even brand new ones are just completely insane and rare to find at MSRP.", "\"Five long years, he wore this watch up his ass. Then when he died of dysentery, he gave me the watch. I hid this uncomfortable piece of metal up my ass for two years.\"", "https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/rolex-daytona-paul-newman--id19396975.htm\n\n\nthe crazy thing is that this video is old and the daytona market has SKY ROCKETED. the watch in the video now would probably go for close to $1m if not more at auction.", "this video is old, in 2021 dollars that watch is $1m+", "28% (of the sale price minus the purchase price, so pretty much 28% of sale price in this case)\n\nsearch collectible gains tax\n\nsource 1: https://www.thetaxadviser.com/issues/2019/nov/taxation-collectibles.html\n\nsource 2: https://gscpa.com/art-antiques-collectibles-tax-benefits/#:~:text=Art%2C%20Antiques%20%26%20Collectibles%20%E2%80%93%20Plan%20To%20Maximize%20Tax%20Benefits,-Do%20you%20own&text=For%20example%2C%20currently%20capital%20gains,on%20your%20income%20tax%20rate.", "it's worth over $1m now. i mean realistically it's only going to go up in price. but if it's never ever been worn then you really don't have any connection to it, so i'd take my money.\n\n\nEven if you are a Billionaire and you buy a watch like this, idk if you ever wear it? i mean maybe? but it's basically a piece of art at this point. It's value is in the condition and rarity. I guess maybe if you wanna show off you wear it around at special events? idk. probably end up framed and on a mantle somewhere.", "i have regularly followed the Daytona Paul Newman and in today's dollars that watch from the video is valued over $1m in value. like the guy said, it literally may be 1 of 1 that has never been worn and in that good of condition.", "About $55k is believe is the current value of the Daytona and $10k is the value of the oysterquartz. The reason why the latter is so high is I have all the original documents and box.", "That’s insane. I can’t imagine spending that much on a watch, then again I’m poor as fuck compared to the people that buy those lol", "I don't own a urwerk but I do own several similar watches to that style. The feature that makes them unique is called a wandering hour. \n\nI own a [Xeric Vendetta](https://www.xeric.com/products/xeric-vendetta-automatic-wandering-hour-silver-brown) which is pretty similar for $1,500 which is pretty affordable for most people who really like watches.", "Sell it, buy a nice car and another Rolex", "Eh… that’s a bit of an exaggeration, they start in the 15-20k range from what I’ve seen. It’s the more complicated ones that command those crazy prices. Not that 20k isn’t crazy to most people.", ">He literally said\n\nIt was a rhetorical question.", "He better sells his watch and buy a house cause if he keeps the money for the next 30 years that will then only buy him a liter of gas.", "I love both of those guys. Watching that show I'll always appreciate the experts dedication. It's crazy.", "“…and it’s a shame that I’m going to have to relieve you of this fine specimen.”\n\n::pulls out pistol::", "The fake fainting and falling in shock annoyed me when this was new, and it annoys me now.", "Over a months salary to buy a Rolex, they had it good back then.", "Haha \"never been into Rolex\"", "One of those trench coats with the gallery of wares on the inside when you open it.", "Daytona is in all honesty to impress people, I have the [black face gold one with diamond](https://imgur.com/a/cQttFNw) which is instantly recognized by basically everyone no matter how little they know about watches while not coming off as a poser watch by collectors who do. The Oysterquartz is because a battery powered Rolex is a fascinating concept.", "Can you explain the significance here? I know you’re implying he’s CIA, but how does SCUBA diving connect with that?", "Not the same watch iirc", "This was worth the watch.", "The implication is that someone doing scuba diving in a warzone would probably be a frogman of some sort.\n\nOf course he could just be talking about a base where there was recreational diving. If you're stationed somewhere like Kwajalein, diving is probably one of the most popular activities.", "Best I can do is $3.50.", "He said it was Air Force EOD perhaps they had issues with mines placed in river crossings and such, so to clear them out they had to wear scuba gear.", "Don't go down the Antique Roadshow rabbit hole!", "[Or you could be the assessor and totally break a one of a kind piece](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anFtSTHWaSc)", "And some stuff!", "Not a humble brag when the entire thread is about Rolex. That like complaining about a guy bragging because he attended a cars and coffee event with a nice car.", "This guy looks like… how do I say this… he looks like the guy I would immediately imagine would be telling this story, but that I would immediately dismiss because it was just too on the nose.", "I doubt it. Just admit you went unnecessarily into his history/genuinely thought it would be of value to call bullshit. \n\nThis is because joke comments, usually have to have to actually have a joke.", "(in case you missed it, the timestamp for when a comment is posted is attached to the top of the comment, no history delving needed) A joke doesn't have to be a setup knockknockwhosthere with a punchline. For people who are neurotypical they can detect obvious sarcasm and recognize it as such, you detected it was off, but chose to think it was malicious instead of light hearted, try the opposite, you'll come off as less awkward.\n\nI made my edit because I was seeing people were downvoting him quite a bit for no real reason because as I said, my comment was meant to be a bit of fun poking.", "I still don’t know ay - usually when it’s a joke people would thereon reply “WTF man. It was a bloody joke!”. Not throw a whole bunch more words out in what could look like an attempt to convince themselves in a doublethink to avoid agreeing with an uncomfortable truth posed by a stranger on the internet.\n\nEdit: saved too quickly.", "Remember back when Rolex made watches for the love of it and wasn’t concerned with making money?", "If he’d invested that money in crypto back then he would be a trillionaire by now. \n \nChange my mind.", "I did the same thing the first time I saw it. Next is the looking around folks home for anything they could potentially cash in on.", "Are you drunk?", "No..? My username is quite clearly the_colonelclink. \n\nSee!? That’s* a joke.", "I'll take that as a yes.", "There it is is again. You tell yourself whatever it is you need for your story to work. \n\nBut again - not drunk.", "Don't think I've ever seen someone gaslight themself, bravo.", "Thing is many people will accept v v low ball offers due to info asymmetry", "It seems that, rather than answer. You’ve paraphrased what I said to you? Are, ah… you drink?", "Is everything alright man?", "Strong.", "Oh well. I guess this is us then? It’s been interesting. \n\nAll words aside, I hope you’re well and your future is bright. \n\nAll the best Xendrus.", "Sure, sad it had to come from you overreacting to not being socially capable of reading a comment correctly, oh well.", ":)", "Still way above what I'm comfortable spending on a watch lol", "He did mention salt water concerns though", "I think you may have some issues", "Facebook marketplace", "All i see is an instructional video with an important life lesson for the young kids of today. This guy thought, that one day this watch could potentially making him rich (hence storing it, with all the extras for 40 years). \n\n-\nThus he decided to wait til 2021 to cash in ... if he had done that 20y ago, he would have been a 50+ year rich fuck. But now at close to 80 ...he can finally live again the life of a modern 20y. \n\n-\nNothing will change for him, the sooner he spends that, the better he is off. Someone with a tiny pension, will not be able to manage close to $1mill.\n\n-\n“Live every day like it’s your last because tomorrow is never promised.” – Homer Simpson", "That is literally what I said. A charge is sent to the quartz tuning fork which is used to keep the time, or as you say to \"regulate\" the time.", ".", "Wrong person", "Like... how is it actually worth that? Im sure it doesnt actually cost even a fraction of that to make... it has to be pure marketing right? No one on planet earth needs to spend 25k on a watch.", "> The GS spring drive is an incredible movement and provides a much smoother sweeping second hand than Rolex which Beats at 10 per socond compared to the Rolex 8.\n\nIt's the Grand Seiko Hi-beat movement that beats at 10 per second. The Spring Drive is a mechanical-quartz hybrid and does indeed have an incredibly smooth sweep, basically perfectly smooth to the human eye.", "r/yourjokebutworse", "Do Omegas also appreciate in value like this?" ]	278	videos	Rolex Oyster Cosmograph & Documentation, ca. 1971 \| Best Moment \| Antiques Roadshow
https://youtu.be/aDNxq33LVtY	/r/videos/comments/qda33z/model_disheartened_that_shes_told_to_show_your/	[ "No thanks", "Yes I understand what you’re saying. It’s a industry that has extremely specific qualifications.\n\nThe fact that she overcame an eating disorder makes the comments worse for her. She seems way too smart and conscientious to be in that industry. \n\nShe should do something that makes her feel good about herself and contributes positively to the community.", "I agree - the industry is not going to change and she knew that going in", "it was the ears" ]	5	videos	Model disheartened that she’s told to ‘show your bones’ at casting call
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl5YUi3vxzs	/r/videos/comments/qdacwt/i_made_a_video_resume_and_then_got_bored_halfway/	[ "Man I love space frogs", "I keep little notes of thoughts I have for stories, I keep them in a Crown Royal bag..... there is more to the story....\n\nBecause when I used Markov chains to help write dialogue for the praying mantis with chainsaw arms dream scene, well it is from my real dreams, but spookier, because robots write it!\n\n\nMy next big solo trip will be backpacking and writing in remote Albania, so I have a lot of respect for your video! I get it, IT IS A LIFESTYLE!", "you said it!", "they saved the world from space flies", "thank u!", "Haha! This was funny! I subbed to your channel. I hope you make more! Do you work as a writer in the LA area?", "thank you!\n\ni do, just moved in march! how bout you?", "I’m just a humble pet sitter from a major East Coast area, but one day I hope to publish something somewhere. \nThat’s awesome that you went all-in and moved to follow your dream! Not sure how much of this reel video was improvised, if you actually did get “bored” in the middle of making it, but it looks like it had good pre-production planning. Looking forward to seeing what’s next!", "very cool! it was pretty improv-y, but we found the idea and stuck with it while shooting. \n\nthank you for your support! i love east coast pets, thank you for taking care of them! and if you want to publish something, you will. might take a decade, but. \n\njust gotta decide! and then do it again every day for x years lols", "Haha thanks! Solid advice 10/10 with rice" ]	10	videos	I made a video resume and then got bored halfway through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSYLQPsbV4s	/r/videos/comments/qdagk5/guy_made_a_working_gamesphere_from_drake_and_josh/	[ "Only the most sophisticated gaming experience ever created by humans.\n\nAnd, it’s spherical.\n\n\n#SPHERICAL", "He should have made a custom bootup that has all the original sound effects \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjctmSdrWzM", "Hey this is mine! And actually, that was my intention but modding the GameCube just for that purpose (at this time) wasn’t really on my list of things for me to consider this “done.” But it’s definitely something I want to do with it.", "Its spherical! SPHERICAL!", "Damn beat me to it", "I fucking love that episode", "wow", "Can you imagine it? What it would feel like to be way, way too dry? I'll tell you something: You don't want to know. And I don't know.", "He made a custom case for a gamecube.", "[You shouldn't have done that, he's just a boy. Poor little fella.](https://youtu.be/rb9Cpg2bJTg)" ]	10	videos	Guy made a working GameSphere from Drake and Josh.
https://youtu.be/ki4Fbctwnjs	/r/videos/comments/qdatzi/casino_cheating_expert_reviews_card_counting_and/	[ "So as soon as you start to make money at casinos they cut you off lol", "Nice to know.", "Watching this and I don't even gamble", "They ain't running a charity" ]	4	videos	Casino Cheating Expert Reviews Card Counting and Casino Scams From Movies
https://youtu.be/fXhnG902iVI	/r/videos/comments/qdblva/rush_hour_at_an_animal_rescue_centre_in_wiltshire/	[ "This is awesome! He reminds me of the guy from [Pet Goose George](https://youtu.be/ic42c6CJ0Ko)", "Thanks for the intro. I could watch this kind of video for hours", "Of course, it’s Eric, Dexter and Clover. \n\nI needed this! So wholesome 🤙🏽", "Eric! This just made my day.", "Holy crap. What a chaotic little paradise.", "Yeah, this dude's energy and enthusiasm is infectious. Was really disappointed Coco (I think?) didn't get a carrot too though...", "The no-carrot did seem harsh, but I reckon she got one a moment later", "Absolutely he did. He had a handful of them and those animals all seemed like they were very well taken care of. Great start to my day with my morning coffee, thanks for posting this.", "The mild chaos continues, including cows chasing emus \n\nhttps://youtu.be/tlVMWRMjmTA", "I love that this is a video because seeing this live might be really hard on the nose.", "That would be Cat-astrophic. Made me chuckle.", "Do the animals all get along?", "The first thirty seconds would go great with the Jurassic Park theme.", "Seems so… but goodness knows what goes on in that barn at night", "Give Coco a carrot!", "How do the big birdos know not to peck cute baby goat?", "He named one of the 'Bangers and Mash'. LOL", "I love this guy. I instantly had to follow them on Facebook as there isn't a single video that doesn't bring me joy ☺️", "!!!", "This reminds me of when I worked at the zoo , I covered for someone once at the Children's zoo.\n\nEvery morning I would open the big gates and the Rabble would come pouring out, most of the animals would run past, but this one goat would aim for me and butt me in the kneecap every time, little bugger.", "Is it me, or do emu's always look wet?", "So much joy in this man’s heart.\nThis woul be a great place to visit for those suffering from depression.", "Cocoa needs a carrot, too!!", "This is so idyllic in a frenzied sort of way.", "ffs", "It needs the tune of The Archers :)", "what the hell are they doing with emus in wiltshire?!", "That cat seems pretty docile.", "He sounds like the best and coolest grandpa ever. I love how he was telling em all good morning as they hurried out. I hope I'm just as cool when I become an old lady.", "That video make me so happy that for a minute I actually thought it was Tuesday and I was okay with it. It ended and I remembered it's actually Friday. Even better.", "This is the most wholesome video I have watched in some time.", "This is the best YouTube has to offer.", "I'm mostly surprised it was just the one. Goats are pure chaos.", "Seems like he might have named every last one. There is an Emerson, Lake and Palmer too!", "I dunno man [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yLxxyzGiko) is pretty good.", "nice. when are these being taken to the slaughterhouse?", "Right!!!", "I lost it at the happy conclusion, \"oh dear, I've lost control\". Very wholesome!", "The video from this morning is sure to wake you up if you're still sleepy. Sound on for sure.", "Their daily posts got me through the lonely parts of last year! Every day on twitter is a new rush hour. It's so wholesome!", "Some knob got pet emus, realized they are psychotic demon-dinosaurs and gave them to this dude, who has high energy chill out magic and land. I'm sure if they didn't have the constant chaos around them, they would create some.", "The pig in that video (at 0:52) looks like a potato with legs", "I woke up this morning and watched animals get cheerily ushered out of a barn for six minutes. I checked my messages and I was excited to see that Dune was performing well in theaters. I checked the tracking information on an order in eager to receive. I had a glass of water, took my medications, brushed my teeth, did everything I was supposed to do; it was a good start to the day...\n\nAnd then there was you.", "Damnit", "R.I.P Cuthbert", "Wiltshire is a strange county.", "Hope you have a good rest of the day, sounds like it's going good so far :)", "I'd give this gold if I had any.", "Jumping on my own comment. Since this post blew up, and as it seems like a good cause (educational centre too), here’s their Patreon\n\nhttps://www.patreon.com/caenhillcc", "Who took it from a good to fantastic start to your day?", "Oh no! It has been awhile since I've stopped by this page and I kept waiting for good ol' Cuthbert to pop out. RIP legend", "[ Jump to 00:52 @ Referenced Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlVMWRMjmTA&t=0h0m52s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Caenhill Countryside Centre, Video Popularity: 97.14%, Video Length: [04:04])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@00:47](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlVMWRMjmTA&t=0h0m47s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Thanks for sharing this. I needed a ray of sunshine, and you provided me a subscription. Thanks for sharing light in dark times ❤", "Yeah wtf was that, Coco got fucking stitched up", "\"The ducks are going back in, they've had enough.\"", "@caenhillcc on IG", "I hope those emus are rescues and not illegal bought.", "That was good!", ">I hope those emus are rescues and not illegal bought.\n\nWell it's a rescue center after all.", "A YouTube ad played in front of it saving me. I guess... thanks?", "This is brilliant! Good to see my home country getting represented too!", "This feels like the UK version of uncle ben and his urban rescue ranch, and I am all for it.", "Made my morning", "I didn't understand everything because of the accent but I don't care, his energy says it all. What a lovely man", "Emus are hardy enough for cold weathers.", "I see emus so I click", "Ironically I wasn't going to click on that video until I read your comment and then I had to click to see what it was. Thanks for getting me unintentionally rick rolled.", "Right after we take you there first!\n\nMmm, long pig.", "Love everything about this.", "Look at all these chickens.", "I would enjoy knowing this man and his farm.", "It's a fuckin' emu", "If I were to win the lottery, this what I would do. Buy a big bit of land and rescue as many animals as I possibly could.", "It reminds me of Ricky Gervais' bit on Noah's Ark", "omfg! \n\nLOOK AT ALL THOSE CHICKENS", "you should twitch, feeding, daily routine etc", "Love how there's a cat in the mix.", "Release the Quacken!", "I’m op but I’m not the farmer", "That’s what I was thinking. This experience is probably better as a video because of the lack of smell lol.", "I bet it smells fowl in there", "Love it! Thanks for sharing!", "I love the energy. I love the sights and sounds. \n\nBut I wouldn't want to smell it or walk through it. 😂", "DUNE IS GREAT!! oh man i'm so thankful", "Came here to say this!! I'm outraged", "Maya?", "I noped out when I saw the death chickens.\n\nDo not trust them", "Welp I thought the best thing the internet brought me was porn and that very well might still be true but I think this past cat pictures at the very least.", "It's a rescue centre so probably never.", "> cows chasing emus\n\nAnd emus chasing cows. Neither of which I thought I'd see today.", "#carrotforcoco", "This is so wholesome, made me smile instantly!", "Huh. First rickroll I've ever seen downvoted on Reddit.", "to the top lets get this account more followers", "[His name is Wadders! He's an asshole!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdUoZJvdipA)", "This is 10mins down the road from me and I had never heard of it before", "May be worth a visit. I’m going to when back in the area", "Is it a farm or a sanctuary?", "That’s one of the many reasons I recommend anyone on an iPhone to use Apollo. Link preview in comment.", "The ducks are going back in", "I suspect it’s a farm that became a shelter and educational centre", "Don't forget about lil Eric!", "I wish I could be this enthusiastically happy about something", "This is the one and only stream I could watch over coffee in the morning to start my day.", "Legs and a cute wagging tail🥺", "Waiting for Eric the half a bee to show up. [Eric the half a bee]https://youtu.be/ftomw87g61Y", "Coco got lost in the burro-ocracy.", "Look at all those chickens", "😍😍😍 I'm in love!!! Pig, goat, AND various fowl?", "I’m got giving anything until Coco gets a carrot!!!", "He's shouting so he can hear himself over the smell", "Every emu looks like if you touch it, it'll be sticky.", "They look quite greasy, which is funny because their feathers are very dry when you touch them!!", "GREETINGS, GOOD MORNING, AND IN SOME CASES GOODNIGHT!", "This is a few miles away from my family home, which means I can basically guarantee that my dad knows this guy!\n\nAlso, Caen Hill Locks are cool.", "The chickens and ducks are famous for getting a long together. \n\nI’m not sure about the others. They’re probably very used to each other and have enough food to not fight.", "One of these birds is not like the others. ^(eyes clover suspiciously)", "Made me snort.", "Not going to lie, I subscribed.", "#Justice4CoCo", "Corporate Carrots https://youtu.be/7JxbTOX-Igc", "I fucking love this interaction.\n\n\"You daft cunt\" lol. And the correction. All in all it seemed pretty neighborly. Not sure this would go down the same in my neighborhood. The police would probably get called.", "Okay these animals definitely all speak English and get up to adventures when humans aren't around.", "Pretty sure Coco got a carrot and just hoovered it up before he cut back. You can see her chewing.", "I'm pretty sure she got one and just gobbled it down before the camera came back. You can see her chewing it just like the other one.", "Was even better than the original video. Brilliant stuff.\n\nLove his enthusiasm.", "It's just smells.", "r/happy", "This is my dream. Having a farm full of all sorts of animals and I spend my time divided into growing food for them, and hanging out with them.", "their mighty ancestors ruled the earth for 165 million years and now they are just happy lil birds", "[he's got a Twitter, too. ](https://twitter.com/caenhillcc) That's where I found him.", "Some aren't bad. I had one for years that was just part of the family. Used to play with one of the dogs a lot, and was a big goof most of the time. Its favorite thing in the world was when we had a sprinkler on in the yard.", "How much would it cost to run a small-ish rescue farm like that?\n\nNo donations, no nothing, roundabout per month?", "[Classic stitch up](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMFjVI_GbRg)", "He tilted his head like “well okay then?”", "Yes and of course the [urban rescue ranch](https://youtu.be/CNvkOuuUWoc)", "Thanks for introducing me to him, I love it!", "If you’ve got the land it can’t be too much. Vets bills can be steep so some tough decisions would have to be made sometimes", "Adorable", "Bucket meal for 4.", "They rebelled this afternoon https://youtu.be/6YzSynpGID8", "Anyone else have a butterball turkey ad right below this post?", "WHY \nMost social media consumption is ON MOBILE", "I’m more impressed he can remember all their names.", "Wholesome af", "What a foul way to start your day.", "Yikes", "You best believe I am now subscribed", "Quish!", "Why didn't donkey get a carrot too in the end, I am crying for him", "Why on earth are Emus in Wiltshire?", "I love this guy. Been following him about a year. Instant dopamine every rush hour.", "r/mademesmile", "That was awful", "I love that the ducks at the end all get in a line like ‘I’m out’ and waddle back into the barn haha.", "I like the cat up on the door like \"I want no part of this.\"", "That would catastrophic.....hahahah", "Is this you? I was very upset the other donkey didn't get a carrot.", "I agree, he seems to have figured out the secret to happiness!", "Not me, but I’m sure he got one soon after.", "Donated.", "correction: emus are arseholes \n\n\nWhen I was a kid a friend of mine with his backpack on got cornered by one in an enclosure and his backpack raped by an emu", "Emus are fairly harmless, unlike their Cassowary cousins who are actual murdermachines", "Erm... Hoping that's a typo!", "Brilliant. This is the quality and happiness I think everyone needs. Just an absolutely legend !", "It honestly depends how old they are when you raise them. Raised from chicks they get along really well with dogs etc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYETIQH\\_mVA", "Mad lad. Love the enthusiasm", "I’m just curious,\n\nWhat is the point of all of these animals? For him to have them I mean.\n\nChickens you get eggs, I get that.\n\nIs it for the pure love of having animals? I get that for sure.\n\nWhat’s his reason is my question?", "Goats can be real assholes, in the most cute sense, so thw birds probably already learned not to mess with them.", "This is that man’s joy. You can hear it in his voice how happy he is and how much he loves them all. Wonderful video. Happy human. Happy healthy animals:)", "You sure about that?\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War", "I don't it would be that bad the place looks pretty clean for a farm so things should not be particularly smelly I imagine.", "I prefer vertical sometimes if I’m watching it from my phone", "I want to take one home with me! they move like I do on my YOUTUBE CHANEL", "I don't think I can eat meat after watching this", "He must spend at least half the day getting them all back in the barn", "I mean, they ran out of ammunition?", "I think he's speaking English, but I'm not certain.", "Yeah nah they arent pure hatred and rage like their banana bending cousins, but they'll still do one on ya if they want to.\n\nHolding something above your head to make yourself taller than them normally keeps them at bay", "Donkey lives matter?", "NGL Clover is a terrific name for a goat. Especially whatever breed that goat is.", "[Emu's feathers are long and limp.](https://www.emuridge.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Emu-Ridge-Emu-Feather1.jpg) So they sort of hang off their skin in a shaggy coat. The colouring probably makes them look like they are damp too.", "Animals have a pretty..... lets say earthy smell. And that many. No matter how clean it looks, that many birds means poop everywhere.", "Any casualties the pigs would probably eat the evidence so you’d have to literally count your chickens if you needed to check", "Great ... one of those happy morning person.... I'm with the cat.", "You know, I thought this was a dumb comment at first seeing as how I thought this place was a sanctuary. After going through their site now I’m really not sure!\n\nThey’ve held BBQs in the past so they’re definitely not vegan, and looking at their Instagram they also hatch chicks. The website is pretty tough to figure out so who knows!", "u que bonitos", "Goodness, with those geese flying overhead it was unreal!", "They DO move in herds...", "That's the dream innit... One day I'll have my own chaotic paradise with chickens and a goat. One day....", "It seems to be a historic farm being used to educate children in agriculture, horticulture, and general farm life. While also working to restore the historic farm to it's prime from 150 years ago. The title mentions the animals are rescues so they could have ended up here from all types of situations. This being a 70 acre farm would be a great place for them to thrive with all the caring help. If you want to know what each animals uses are a quick wikipedia search should give you all the info you need. If you want to look into the farm here is their [website](https://www.caenhillcc.org.uk/about-demo).", "I grew up on a farm so I know that animals can smell bad. It was a dairy farm but we did have Chickens and ducks as well.\n\nThat many birds does mean poop everywhere but he seems to keep it cleaned up based on the video. It is going to be worse where they are sleeping for sure but outside it should not be that bad since it seems pretty clean.", "Yes but he went inside to visit the mules.", "That is true but it's still looks like a very cheap set up with it being a big airy looking barn. I don't see any compacted poop anywhere so it's cleaned very regularly. It is open to the public to visit apparently so I assume they will try to keep things as pleasant as possible.\n\nThe animay will stop have a smell bit it shouldn't be particularly bad. Many people like the smell of horses even though these are donkeys/mules. Most animals doing smell particularly bad on their own it's normally the environment they are in that creates the really bad smells. But to be fair I grew up on a farm so I'm probably a bit nose blind to it.", "Oh shit ha ha. I've fixed it.", "We all have different levels of smell tolerance. At a glance, I can say it'd be too much for me.", "That's fair. Slurry doesn't really bother me too much anymore it's kind of annoying but there have been things that made me gag from smell which is rare. I would hate to see someone with sensitive smell experience that.", "It's just great. Some people really do live the dream.", "You get used to them, like I do my farts.", "Animals are a remedy for almost everything.", "Hey, I've been following these for a while on tiktok. Funny how things just pop up on other platforms.", "Nugget and Karen were so cute!" ]	208	videos	Rush hour at an animal rescue centre in Wiltshire. The owner enthusiastically films this every morning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph4DFH80nDo	/r/videos/comments/qdbo5k/smooth_phone_snatcher/	[ "dont keep your phone in your back pocket", "When cycling that is the only pocket you typically have. Some kits have a zip pouch in case of a crash you can keep your phone in it so it doesn’t go flying, but not all of them have that.", "true, true" ]	4	videos	Smooth Phone Snatcher
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qdbxzx/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qdbxzx/deleted_by_user/	[ "> Well. What should I write here. There is so much to unpack. \n\n>So many facts connected with half truths, assumptions and correlations framed as causations - and an incredible lack of nuance - just to drive home the point of \"the internet is dead and fake and bots.\" \n\n>Again, some truth at it's core, but lacking so much nuance in every other regard. I could spend the whole day dissecting this video, but that's not worth it to me. \n\n>Just one thing: Make up your mind if the algorithms want us to fight and yell at each other or if they censor us by making us only publish non controversial content. Can't be both - or at least not without showing them - wait for it - in a more nuanced way.\n\n>Basically what you are doing here is starting emotionally (\"Something doesn't FEEL right, MANY people feel it, you probably too!\", then taking some known facts (algorithms filtering our social media feeds to manipulate us in a way beneficial for the platform owners, as well as the existence of bot armies on those platforms) then make >some assumptions (\"2013 they said 60 % is bots, so we can assume today everything is bots\", not mentioning >that those very bots are a problem for the platforms themselves and they are fighting them strongly) and say in >the end \"Well, wether you agree or disagree - you have to admit this is an interesting theory!\"\n\n>This is how conspiracy theories work: Mixing facts with half truths, assumptions and emotions to then conclude something in the end that isn't based in logic, but what \"feels\" logical because of how it is built up.\n\n>I know it can be difficult to check the credibility of certain sources in this day and age, but it's still possible. Do it.\n\n>And reduce your time on social media to a minimum - there are still some interesting alternative niche places on the web, and also the real world has still a lot to offer ;-)\n\n[@PeterSchmuttermaier](https://www.youtube.com/c/PeterSchmuttermaier/featured)", "I think that a video that make so many claims that are presumably backed up by evidence should have links to at least SOME evidence to back up claims. Also claims of something being a common thing, like \"how so many of us have experienced conent on the internet having different comments, different like to dislike ratios etc. etc.\" is presented almost every minute here. This guy saying that something is common does not make it common.", "I don’t think this guy has the slightest idea of how the internet actually works. From the perspective of someone opening an operating system expecting to be fed information and entertainment, there are some valid points. From actual professional and commercial uses, this is laughably delusional.", "this comment has been reposted so many times lol and your claiming this theory as fake. go figure.", "I can barely understand what you're trying to convey but: No, I'm the only one to have copy & paste that youtube comment.", "https://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/", "What's scary is how convincingly journalist try to cover it up. I was trying to look stuff up and all i can find these days are clickbait. Lol i was searching a specific term in the news and google news shows me unrelated, irrelevant clickbait stories. 4 search results all the same: \"the cast of lord of the rings sings a song or whatever\" from 4 different news networks (abc, nbc etc) and/or online news sites. Youtube has automatic negativity filters for it's comments sure i can see the need for that, but it just becomes a circle jerk of pride and praise even for abysmally mediocre videos. And the most popular providers (the one's the almighty algorithm decide to show you) get there because they buy comment and like bots. Can't convince me that they don't exist. Are scalpers gone just because it's illegal? Um, no. It's not dead, it's just been turned into a corporate grind. It's as dead as anyone who works a job they hate. It's all just for money.", "The internet can cover it's ass. Can you find any legitimate links connecting Disney to Nazi's? \n\n\nWhat would happen if you asked God about the Devil? \nGod would tell you the Devil is evil.", "https://www.getalfi.com/advertising/facial-recognition-advertising-future-is-here/", "[https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/assistant-attorney-general-kristen-clarke-delivers-keynote-ai-and-civil-rights-department](https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/assistant-attorney-general-kristen-clarke-delivers-keynote-ai-and-civil-rights-department)\n\nThe problem is any time congress addresses stuff like this; what happens? Viral videos mocking congress about their age and ignorance. This is why government is important, at this moment in time it is our only defense against predatory capitalism.", "Are there imaginable digital computers which would do well in the imitation game?", "Some of these comments in this post trying to claim it is not true because it doesn’t show enough evidence and they can dissect it and prove it’s wrong but it’s not worth their time really makes me think it’s true." ]	13	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/bjUfzMrdQio	/r/videos/comments/qdcy1q/microscopic_flea_anatomy/	[ "I wish I was in a room full of these with an advanced flamethrower from like the movie Alien.", "What’s the YouTube channel’s name?", "It's called [Down the Scope Microscopy](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFaJCklYgRhU4woY_5Va1pQ/videos?view=0). It does mainly histology of different animals but sometimes has whole insect anatomy.", "Thanks!" ]	3	videos	Microscopic Flea Anatomy
https://youtube.com/watch?v=oS0vYAI2t98&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/qddpe7/a_destruction_scene_of_tokyo_for_a_fanfiction/	[ "Tokyo tower is a basically a radio mast. What's exploding in it?", "The cheesy Godzilla-type explosion sound effects made me laugh.", "The Japanese really shouldnt store so much volatile substances inside all of their building, shits just exploding into fire all over the place." ]	3	videos	A destruction scene of Tokyo for a fan-fiction project titled #JusticeForLove: End of the World

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