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/r/videos/comments/qhlw5z/i_made_the_hocus_pocus_house_in_far_cry_5/
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[
"Man, that is amazing! I didn't know the map making editor for Far Cry was that advanced. Great job!",
"Haha nice",
"Thanks very much!",
"Cheers!",
"Amazing! My only critique is the missing foundation and steps leading up to the front door. Everything else is spot on.",
"Haha, thank you! I'll admit that although I've seen the movie loads, my reference for this scene was based on just the one screenshot from the film which is from the same angle, and if I failed to spot it in the image, I failed to include it 😂"
] | 7 |
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I made the Hocus Pocus house in Far Cry 5!
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https://youtu.be/3-yvtYPnVSE
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/r/videos/comments/qhm1z3/john_marston_reacting_to_trailer_of_gta_the/
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[
"This was fun to watch. :)",
"♥️",
"Is there John Marston text to speech built into this game? It actually sounds pretty good..."
] | 3 |
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John Marston reacting to trailer of GTA : The Trilogy - The Definitive Edition
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https://youtu.be/BzLrF4KCQ0Y
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/r/videos/comments/qhm6xq/one_hour_of_silence_occasionally_broken_by_barney/
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[
"Silence is in danger of growing stale, I'm taking it to strange new places.",
"I love [the silent part at 13:06](https://youtu.be/BzLrF4KCQ0Y?t=784). >!It doesn't last very long!<",
"Agreed, definitely one of the best of the silent parts."
] | 3 |
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One hour of silence occasionally broken by Barney Gumble Burping
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https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qhmk0s/deleted_by_user/
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/r/videos/comments/qhmk0s/deleted_by_user/
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[
"Is rocket league not as popular as I think it is?",
"Esports earnings not number of players or sales of game",
"I didn't know Dota was \\*that\\* big.",
"Dota is special in the way they make the prize pool for The Internationals, compared to every other game. 25% of the profits from buying battlepasses and items go directly to the prize pool. Making the prizes abnormally large. So it's not that Dota is the biggest game, they just have the biggest prizes.",
"It is so sad that Tribes 2 never got the recognition it deserves. It was a game perfectly prepared to enter Esports.",
"Yes! I miss Tribes 2 so much, it felt so well balanced.",
"The International, DotA 2's largest tournament, has a prize pool that is split up between multiple teams. In the 2021 tournament, which concluded earlier this month, the first place \"only\" got 45.5%, which amounted to a little over $18 million. All 18 teams that competed were paid, with the smallest prize being $100k. [Source](https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2021#Prize_Pool)",
"How is 1.6 first? I thought prize pools only got big in the last decade",
"because wee lil cars are fun and don't make me wanna violate Geneva convention so much",
"You don't think dota players get paid salary? Even when confronted with evidence, still can't face facts. This isn't about viewership, its about paid esports earnings.\n\nHappiest down vote of my life.",
"It's still super misleading to just use the word \"Earnings\" when you only use money from prize pools. \n\n\nLike if you wouldn't rank the \"Earnings\" from traditional sports but only include prize pool money because that would be basically worthless because not all sports use that model. \n\n\nSame for esports. With some, the pros make most, if not all, of their money from prize pools. While others make most, if not all, of their money from salary. And a spectrum between the two.",
"Let's pretend there's no salary in dota.\n\n\n400k is median lcs player salary\n\n10 teams, 5 players per team\n\n50 players x 400k= 8 mil.\n\nAdd 8 mil to the earnings and it still doesn't touch dota.\n\nAm I missing something?",
"There's more than just the LCS. LPL (China, probably the biggest payer) has 16 teams, LCK (Korea) has 10 teams, LEC (Europe) has 10 teams. Then there are all the minor regions. (Japan, Vietnam, Taiwan, Brazil, Russia)And then factor in Prize pools in league, which is not insignificant.And I'm not saying that at the end of all these calculations League will come out on top (I don't really know Dota salaries). But it will be a much more realistic comparison. \n\n\nEdit - Also money from the prize pools also goes to the organizations for coaches and other staff, right?",
"That's fair"
] | 14 |
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[deleted by user]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUhuPn8_d0Q&ab_channel=AlexaRamos
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/r/videos/comments/qhmr7o/in_honor_of_halloween_tim_curry_in_the_worst_witch/
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[
"My sister watched this all the time growing up. I don't think I'll ever get the songs out of my head...",
"[Mega64 version is pretty good](https://youtu.be/CS1RbLblXO4)",
"Some editor just got Video Toaster.",
"Haha I never realized how much Borat sounds like Tim Curry",
"Did she ever turn into a bat?",
"I love Tim Curry but I can also see David Bowie in this spot.",
"*Anything can happen on Halloween.\nYour toenails grow long and your hair turns green.\nYour teacher could become a sardine.\nYour dentist could turn into a queen.\nHas anybody seen my tambourine.*\n\nAnd they said poetry was dead",
"The most scarring things I've ever seen in movies:\n\n1. The Alien being caught on camera in the movie \"Signs\".\n2. This.",
"Will always think of Rocco when I hear this",
"You could really sense the anticipation.",
"Nice",
"My man still gave 110% delivering those lines.",
"Seen Him in a one time live act in Toronto Rocky Horror Picture Show at the Rex danforth theatre. fantastic the man is Uber talented and of course sexy in a corset ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️",
"I suppose that depends on who you ask.",
"I thought I imagined this movie...",
"I'm sick of finding toads in my bass guitar.",
"Damn he's 75 now post stroke. I was thinking more like 55-60s. But I was totally off.",
"1. I still remember how the hairs on the back of my neck stood up.",
"Flies in like a Final Fantasy boss",
"I still prefer Justin McElroy's cover",
"Damn, that would have been out of this world!",
"Sometimes you forget everyone was high back then…",
"I don't want to see a ghost \nIt's the sight that I fear most \nI'd rather have a piece of toast \nWatch the evening news",
"You're thinking of Labyrinth, and yes, he was.",
"Swoon",
"His Psych episode is legendary - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBIs8dUPHbM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBIs8dUPHbM)\n\n\"I feel like an angel baby swaddled in a cocoon of cloud candy\"",
"\"I bought all the effects, I'm going to use all the effects\" - This editor.\n\nTo be fair, though, if I have Tim Curry as my canvas, I'm going to paint some crazy shit too.",
"I'd get some good food, some drugs, and some albums, then invite Curry into the editing bay to give his input.",
"I have zero doubt something like that happened",
"Yeah I was totally getting Bowie with Freddie energy from the video.",
"And let's not forget his role as Anatoly Cherdenko, where he attempted to escape to the one place that had not been corrupted by capitalism: SPACE!",
"Your dog could turn into a cattt",
"JK Rowling could have been sued into oblivion by the creators of the film this song is from",
"Thank you for this.",
"Back in 2000, X-Entertainment.com had the most hilarious review of this movie I’d ever read. It’s referenced on lots of others’ bloggers sites as being the funniest thing they’d ever read, too. Unfortunately, the original site is long since dead and not even Archive.org saved it.",
"I’m pretty sure this was Rufus Wainwright’s main creative influence.",
"You can literally pinpoint the exact moment he didn't have a next line and went \"fuck it, tambourine it is I guess\".",
"You skipped the best line \"anything could happened on Halloween / your dog could turn into a cat\".",
"Is there any time Tim Curry phoned it in? Seriously asking.",
"I've seen Labyrinth, I was thinking he'd have been good in this as well.",
"Probably more likely a Quantel paintbox in 1986.\n\nAmigas and the toaster were a thing in 1991.",
"If they had just invested in a Roland DX-7 rather than the Casio keyboard this song would have been decent.",
"Hands down my favorite performance of his: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yMy7JuGpJM",
"It's been over 30 years since I've seen this... what a flashback.",
"Perfect 2 point landing!",
"> Your dentist could turn into a queen.\n\nWould you really complain if your dentist was Roger Taylor?",
"Pennywise the Clown in IT.",
"Little Witches School is where they went when they couldn't afford Hogwarts.",
"For me it's the pilot episode of supernatural (I first watched as a kid). They beat the ghost, and as shes dieing she turns into a melting pillar of disfigured flesh. So many nightmares.",
"Tim Curry always at his best",
"And we will end this scene with the Naked Woman Silhouette Pulling Down the Window Shades wipe.",
"Negative, he's all in no matter what.",
"I have this on vhs somewhere",
"Just life though, innit?",
"Well that was terrible. But Tim Curry is cool so I am conflicted.",
"True dat.",
"While he's literally holding the tambourine, no less",
"was gettin ready to share this, lol",
"Nah, Bowie would've demanded a high end Jenny Connelly to woo on, not a bunch of 10 year old girls and two Mrs. Hanagans. Out of their budget, so they got a sweet transvestite instead.",
"I thought this was /r/InterdimensionalCable at first",
"It's hilarious how the kids go from speaking Brazilian to speaking Mexican and then American suddenly (\"he's behind he's behind!\").",
"All in a wheel chair now! Giving his all.",
"Space!!!!!",
"Grand Wizard means something very different in the south",
"It's worth mentioning that Matt is still doing his thing at [Dinosaur Dracula](https://dinosaurdracula.com/). His Mad Matt Halloween video from this year is especially good.",
"I would pay real money to see a supercut of every movie role pitched to Tim Curry. \n\"You wear a massive horn fixture, and you'll be nigh unrecognizable.\" \"Women's underwear and heels.\" \"A butler in 7 layers of tweed and wool, and running almost non-stop.\" \"Remember 'Sound of Music' and the outfits made of curtains? You, flying, but with ALL the curtains as wings.\" \"The biggest, reddest dress ever.\" \"BalloonClownSpider.\"",
"TIL : Tim Curry is still alive. Which is great",
"*vamanos*, children!",
"One time a middle school play was being performed and the lead actor fell off the stage onto the piano. Tim Curry was walking by on his way to a cat food commercial and heard the commotion. He ran in and not only did he take over the lead actor's part he also vocally sang the piano notes at the same time. He didn't even know what play they were doing and he was perfect.",
"Pretty sure that was Marti Pellow actually",
"It would funny if it were The Wurst Witch and it was about sausages.",
"and I'm glad they did. He killed it."
] | 72 |
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In honor of Halloween, Tim Curry in the Worst Witch
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b519ZDHon1I
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/r/videos/comments/qhnez1/an_ad_for_those_thinking_about_going_back_to_the/
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[
"I actually can't wait to go back. IMHO the ideal RTO would be a hybrid model, where going in is optional and people aim to be in office around 2 or 3 days a week, depending on what they are delivering.\n\nI've been home alone every day since March 2020 and I feel like I've actually lost social skills. Solitary confinement used to be one of the worst punishments people could experience, but for millions it's become the norm.\n\n\nEdit: Downvote brigade is coming in, but I won't delete this. It's my opinion, and I'm advocating optional RTO on a hybrid model.",
"You don't get a computer in solitary confinement.\n\nAnd I talk to people just as often now as I did in the office. I just do it through a microphone.",
"> Solitary confinement used to be one of the worst punishments people could experience, but for millions it's become the norm.\n\nThat is the most overly dramatic representation of working from home I've ever heard. jfc",
"I regularly go 7 days without physical human interaction. Single people living alone have a different perspective maybe.\n\nAny again, the key word was OPTIONAL. if you prefer to stay WFH, no worries. Some of us would rather see collegues face to face",
"Yes, me too. But it's not the same - again different strokes. The key word in my statement above was optional",
"I would prefer the hybrid model, but my company built a new headquarters so they had to use it and sent us back in early 2021. No hybrid model and 100% using this new cube land when I used to have my own office. \n\nAll of our meetings are through Teams anyways, but gotta have butts in the seats.",
"> Solitary confinement used to be one of the worst punishments people could experience, but for millions it's become the norm.\n\nExcept for the \"confinement\" part. Also all the entertainment and communication technologies. It's not a punishment either, there's no guilt or regrets like a punishment.\n\nBut other than all that you're absolutely correct!",
"I do on weekends, but noone is ever free during the week. I work 9-5 and normally used to have coffee/go for a drink after work.\n\nThat means I only have social interaction 2/7 days, rather than daily like before",
"Socializing with your coworkers is very important to the success of a business, it creates comradery and friendly competition. Face to face interaction is very important to the mental health of a lot of people. Don't put your antisocial nature on everyone else.",
"Hmm not a big LinkedIn guy, just someone whos first office job has been from home for the past 9 months and it is positively miserable. My point is that people who started their job in the office and moved to WFH love it because they already know their coworkers and team, but for people like me there is no way to get to know your team well over Zoom. IMO a hybrid model is the solution.",
"My job is fully remote permanently. I love it so much",
"Hey relax, I'm just saying its a strech to say that guy \"has issues\" for wanting to socialize with his coworkers because a lot of people want to and miss that. But it sounds like you were the type of person that was excluded from employee group chats so I'm not surprised you don't feel this way.",
"I'd be biking but thank you.",
"Try living near an urban center so you dont have to drive everywhere ya fool, while you sit in your pollution factory ill be getting excercise. \n\nTo be honest, this is an interesting point that I haven't considered. Not everyone can live near an urban center and, unfortunately, cars are required for their commute. But its not your fault, its really General Motors for anti-public transport propaganda and lobbying our idiotic government to make cities car-centric.\n\nIf you had the option, would you rather live close to a city and be able to bike to work?",
"wait you guys have a choice to work from home?",
"You have absolutely zero concept of the horror that solitary confinement imposes on the human psyche to compare living your life at home to that. It's insulting and pathetic. You should be ashamed",
"\"This one time, the subway was kinda full so I had to sit next to a guy for 20 minutes. Honestly, felt like we were in a cattle car on our way to Auschwitz.\"\n\n- OP, probably.",
"Have you tried leaving you fucking house and going out? What you are comparing to solitary confinement isn't even remotely on the same scale. Solitary confinement is far far worse.",
"Wow triggered much? Sorry my opinion differs from yours, I'm not gonna head to the pub every night to talk to other humans"
] | 19 |
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An ad for those thinking about going back to the office
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https://youtu.be/Qu3xxq5F3Gw
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/r/videos/comments/qhnl3k/jack_nicholson_prepping_for_the_shining/
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[
"Absolute legend.",
"Unpopular opinion but I don't think the shining is a good film.",
"Aww it cut off [the best part.](https://youtu.be/WDpipB4yehk?t=120)",
"Blah blah movie fact... heavier door... Jack was a fireman... blah blah. Something like that."
] | 4 |
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Jack Nicholson prepping for The Shining
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https://youtu.be/19yFjayjv3g
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/r/videos/comments/qhnlx4/where_can_i_get_the_full_interview_of_this/
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[
"Heavy bro. Heavy",
"The decision to drop the bomb. Documentary 1965 https://youtu.be/iZ85SgoLRNg ~ min 26",
"Bless your soul, thanks dude!"
] | 3 |
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Where can I get the full interview of this?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAOCiNhQW2Y
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/r/videos/comments/qho9is/1074_mph_baseball_vs_1_gallon_of_mayonnaise/
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[
"Nice",
"Slow-mo shots:\n\n* [13:33 - vs. 1 container of sprinkles](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAOCiNhQW2Y&t=13m33s)\n* [21:15 - vs. 1 gallon of mayo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAOCiNhQW2Y&t=21m15s)",
"You are a lovely human being",
"I love how excited he is \"Oh we can chart data now!\"",
"Who says this?",
"If you don't know the meaning of some Patreon requesting the \"mayo\", it's because you haven't followed the Gamestop saga on Reddit and the \"Ken's Mayo\" episode 😉",
">10/10 entertainment. When people say \"what about modern technology makes life better,\" I will pull out this video.\n\nWhy do you talk like a bot.",
"[Done](https://youtu.be/4I-p8vjQ95s?t=340)",
"Is this a joke?",
"The emotions when a southerner sees mayonnaise destroyed.",
"Bingo"
] | 11 |
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1,074 MPH BASEBALL vs. 1 Gallon of Mayonnaise - Smarter Every Day 264
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9L1a10QfUA&t=168s
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/r/videos/comments/qhot7g/coding_a_compound_interest_calculator_from/
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[
"\"from scratch\"",
"How is it not from scratch?",
"Props to creators over haters, but isn't it better practice to use returns in functions, so you can better use and manipulate the data?\n\nAnd in print functions, wouldn't it be better to use f strings for versatility?\n\nI'm just a rookie Pythonista.",
"I would say that because he's not using a compound interest module it's fair enough to use the phrase \"from scratch\". Still retains it's common parlance meaning. If you want to be pedantic you could say to make anything from scratch you first have to invent the universe.",
"Yes functions should have well defined inputs and outputs. It's pretty rare for math functions like this to just print the answer, but it was just a demonstration.\n\nF strings could be used but this example is so extremely simple idk why you would bother."
] | 5 |
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Coding a compound interest calculator from scratch in Python
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ7ImM9Bys8
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/r/videos/comments/qhowe1/from_june_of_2000_405_the_movie/
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[
"Looks pretty good for a movie from 2000 ngl",
"Man, it's been a minute. That was pretty huge when it came out.",
"They showed grannies Lincoln in park . . .",
"Fun Fact, Will Smith turned down the role of the main character in order to focus on *The Legend of Bagger Vance*.",
"I remember that looking so real back in the day. It's amazing how far we've come for visual effects.",
"Looks pretty good irrespective of release.\n\nFun fact: when they made it, computer storage was so bad, they couldn't import all of the digital video from the tapes. They imported thumbnails, edited the movie, and then exported an \"edit decision list\" that then pulled the footage from the tapes to render.",
"Nah by todays standards the cg plane and cars are kinda rough looking. But as an amateur video from the time it’s pretty top notch.",
"I was working with off- line editing and EDLs for broadcast TV in the late 90s. Storing film or video on disk and RAM with enough space for editing at full resolution was prohibitively expensive. Processors weren't up to handling complex real time video effects either.",
"Posting this just for the nostalgia eh?",
"Yep, I saw [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Roadcam/comments/qh79oi/canada_plane_lands_on_407_toll_highway_in_toronto/) and replied with the 405 video. Wanted to see if anyone else remembered it. It blew me away back then.",
"Meanwhile, yesterday in Toronto... \n\n\nhttps://twitter.com/i/status/1453427923155886086",
"My parents have this on vhs"
] | 11 |
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From June of 2000, "405 the Movie"
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https://youtu.be/rhaWdHJ7wcE
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/r/videos/comments/qhoxis/when_a_british_rapper_freestyles_in_new_york/
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[
"Normally stuff like this really sucks but this was actually really impressive and entertaining. Had to share! Sorry if it's a repost",
"I enjoyed it! It was impressive. Girls in the lake cracked me up.",
"Ha yeah I think they were going for more of a spring break vibe rather than murder at the creek vibe 😂",
"\"That's someone's daughter...moving on\" It was certainly darker than they probably thought!"
] | 4 |
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When a British Rapper Freestyles in New York
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https://youtu.be/HIDEkiJLJmc
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/r/videos/comments/qhpjff/when_scottish_bagpipes_meet_bollywood/
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[
"Huh, yeah that kinda works together.",
"This is the first time I’ve ever heard bagpipes and not want to kill myself.",
"I could jam to this.",
"gives me bagpipe lindsey stirling vibes",
"i like this one as well: https://youtu.be/8RbVuDuCYMY?t=64",
"https://media.giphy.com/media/jpbnoe3UIa8TU8LM13/giphy.gif",
"As a fan of Bwood music, I love this",
"https://youtu.be/HXm8JdC4k4c try this one",
"Hahaha",
"Nice",
"Well that was kickass. Didn't understand a single word but, I got goosebumps down my neck and arms.",
"In Scotland and other parts of the UK, South Asians actually combine the bagpipes with the dhol (An Indian barrel drum) for weddings :)\n\n[This is an extract from an interesting BBC Scotland show, 'Getting Hitched Asian Style'' (watch till the end)](https://youtu.be/9trK_N4GQk4)\n\n[This is also a fun listen](https://youtu.be/ZhXMVDJiwwA)",
"TIL this amazing fact. Thank you for sharing.",
"No problem! Glad you liked it :)",
"Reminds me of [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYggEswHnos)",
"Sounds more like eurodance (or something like it) meeting bagpipes.",
"Give [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUA3sdyZ_Pw_) a try",
"I really appreciate that the Spanish subtitles in that video literally say \"In Spanish\" when Jack White sings the words \"En Español\" @38 seconds in",
"That’s pretty damn catchy",
"It's two not-dissimilar approaches to tell everyone that you're there to FUCKING PARTY and they're gonna learn to love the tinnitus.\n\nAnd they're correct.",
"It's a [clavioline](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clavioline), not bagpipes. You can even see it in the music video at 2:17.",
"I've not a clue what they are saying, but I like it!",
"Camela feat. Carlos Nuñez.",
"I love that her bagpipe has a horse/ dragon head. It's cool",
"India has it's own bag pipes in the Garhwali bagpipe, the titti and the mashak which may or may not come from the Scottish tradition. They are not solely a Scottish thing",
"Bagpipes are already Indian! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bagpipes#India",
"SO is she playing traditional Indian pipes or is she Scottish or part Scottish? Looks like she could be light skinned Indian too. The confused looks on everyone face in the video make me think they are not used to seeing the pipes? Or maybe it's just the type of music they are playing on traditional instrument or the looks?",
"Wow, she has a great set of pipes.",
"that shit slaps bruh",
"She does a Metallica song with two other bagpipe girls also. Lovin this one.",
"Sorry to be pedantic, but those are certainly not Scottish bagpipes. Bagpipes are quite worldly, and have a very large variety of shapes and sizes.",
"In the biz we call that a \"jam\"",
"It is a goal in my life to be in an Indian music video... I keep pressuring my Indian friend to get married because the next best thing is Indian weddings.",
"What a banger!",
"Damn they got that arranged marriage popping",
"This lady just made bagpipes awesome... Now I want to hear it in electronic music",
">and other parts of the UK\n\nNo these are Scottish Asians",
"I never understood why people seem to hate bagpipes so much, I love them personally",
"Thank you, now i hate Bagpipes",
"I love and respect both cultures but fuck that was tough on my ears.",
"Yeah, I'm a Scottish Asian too but this isn't only done in Scotland, you'll see it in England also",
"This was really awesome! I like bagpipes and Bollywood music (for the most part) but it gave me goosebumps to hear.",
"Ok legit this was fantastic. Thank for sharing. I never would have come across this without this subreddit.",
"As opposed to German, Italian, Venezuelan or Bulgarian bagpipes? What a worthless addition.",
"https://youtu.be/HXm8JdC4k4c\n\nWhen those same bagpipes meet Boston Irish punk",
"Got to get this gal on stage with [Tartanic](https://www.tartanic.net).",
"That was....\n\nThat was exactly what I thought it was going to sound and look like.",
"Yea like peanut butter on burgers",
"The bagpipes in this video aren't even Scottish!",
"this is actually really nice - I have no problem with this",
"This video is so lovely! Everyone looks genuinely happy.\n\nThanks for this post.",
"Why is she walking like she has hip dysplasia",
"This is awesome! Definitely should collab with Lindsey Sterling",
"I think it's more her look that has them staring"
] | 54 |
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When Scottish Bagpipes meet Bollywood
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https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qhqmis/deleted_by_user/
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/r/videos/comments/qhqmis/deleted_by_user/
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[
"ah yes Wonder Showzen, such a great show",
"Kids on the beat, kids on the street, beat kids! Beat kids!\n\nThat little song has been stuck in my head randomly for the last decade or however long since that show was on (doing the math seems too depressing to contemplate). Wonder Showzen was a hell of a show.`",
"I still have the Wonder Showzen boxset in my closet, maybe it's time for a rewatch.",
"The one where one of the puppets furry pubes are on the inside flap?",
"BaNkErS BaD amirite?! /s\n\n\nNoone is maliciously exploiting anyone, what a loaded question. I work in banking myself and our goal is to grow wealth for everyone, if something is being shorted it's because the indication is that it is failing, noone WANTS it to fail. \n\n\nThe world unfortunately isn't black and white, and you cant label a profession as evil.",
"I loved Wonder Showzen, for some reason I can read its Ki every once in a while when watching episodes of Gumball.",
"To say that no one is maliciously exploiting anyone is a ridiculous thing to say, especially from someone who “works in banking”",
"The only person being exploited here is the little kid being told to ask questions she doesn't understand.",
"Care to expand on that? I work in AML and recently shut down a child prostitution ring. The Pope literally gave us an award for making the world a better place.",
"Great show. https://youtu.be/Lhu4T_vwxIU",
"I like how your reasoning for your profession not being evil is that it's your job.\n\nAny success you've had in that industry is either off the back of ridiculous monetary policy that is bankrupting the middle class or by mismanaging the retirement savings of people who actually produce things in this country.\n\nWhat is it like not being able to go into places unless you are invited?",
"Sounds like your issue is with politicians, not bankers. And yes, I've never exploited anyone, but I've stopped terrorist financing, identified drug cartels and liberated children from sex trafficking rings. \n\n\nWhat has your career done to improve the world?",
"Holy shit. You personally liberated children from sex trafficking rings. I am in awe of the sheer arrogance and cognitive dissonance.",
"Our neural AI models identified suspicious transaction flows, combined with model simulation and transaction based rule analysis. With this incriminating evidence, we notified the local authorities and they were able to obtain a warrant, and free the victims.\n\nRelevant News story: https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/scotiabank-stepping-up-fight-to-end-human-trafficking-with-new-funding-for-innovative-programs-852608699.html\n\nThe Pope gave us an Award (lol): https://www.scotiabank.com/ca/en/about/perspectives.articles.impact.follow-the-money--financial-sector-plays-part-in-curbing-child-trafficking.html",
"lol is the reasoning here that your bank was facilitating terrorism, drug cartels, and child sex trafficking before it stopped?",
"You realize your firm donating money (as a tax writeoff xDDD) is not the same as YOU PERSONALLY FREEING CHILDREN FROM SEXUAL SLAVERY. \n\nImagine never being told no your entire life. What a spoiled little child.\n\nAlso getting an award from the most powerful pedophile in the world is not something to brag about.",
"You work in banking and you’ve never heard of redlining? Never heard of the scores and scores of banks illegally foreclosing on people after the 2008 financial crisis? I mean Jesus just look at the bank bailouts and too big to fail crap that came after. Banks got billions, CEOs and Wall Street Guys went home with huge bonuses while working people lost everything.\n\nThese guys aren’t going after like middle managers and bank tellers, these are the rich ass Wall Street dudes who gatekeep and get rich off the labor of others.",
"Just one of the best clips out there.",
"Criminals make money. They need to store and transfer it amongst themselves. We do the due diligence to end financial crimes.\n\n\nIs money evil? That's like saying since some people use hammers to murder people, that Lowe's is implicit.",
"Donating money? Sorry, please read the articles.\n\n\nAgain, sorry but the world isn't black and white. Good luck getting a house, or paying for higher education, without a loan from the \"evil\" banks.",
"Investment banking is not the same as commercial banking you mongoloid. Regardless you don't get to take personal credit for your firm's tax write-off activities.",
"> someone has to facilitate terrorism, drug cartels, and child sex trafficking",
"There's no tax write-off on AML activities. The financial driver is risk avoidance on regulatory penalties. But why would that matter, pretty sure the victims didn't give a shit and were happy to be saved.\n\nAlso a bank is not a firm. And I don't appreciate the personal insults, friend.",
"Huh? Banks manage money, so anything in the world that involves money will move through a bank at some point. Even crypto.",
"Hey guys, we stopped helping the terrorists as much. Give us an award!!!",
"I would like to read about the pope award. Are they called the popeies?",
"Bro you're really making a big fuss because your bank spent .0001% of their annual revenue on some charity work? That's the equivalent of an average middle class worker donating 5 cents to charity in a year. Big fucking whoop.",
"It's a comedy bit. Touch grass.",
"Next he's going to be angry that the world was started",
"Thank you so much for explaining what a bank is. The reason that we were criticizing bankers is that we were simply unaware! I now see that you're a hero that stands between my cushy life and sex slavery. Thank you for that and growing wealth for everyone*.",
"[The total cost of financial crime compliance across all financial institutions reached $213.9 billion in 2021](https://www.finextra.com/pressarticle/88026/global-spend-on-financial-crime-compliance-at-financial-institutions-reaches-2139-billion)\n\n\nFor comparison, the largest charity in the world Novo Nordisk Foundation has \"only\" $73 billion total and they have been around since 1923. The $213 billion spent by banks is annual.",
"Far from angry, just trying to educate. It's fun and simple to point the finger and blame people, but reality is a bit more complex.",
"Anytime, happy to help. Recommend taking an economics course if you'd like to know more.",
"I didn't edit my comments.",
"Haha yea, I just dug it up and apparently it is only season 1. It has been so long, I thought it was the whole show.",
"Ah it appears I misread. Enjoy your simplistic worldview, even in the face of facts and reason, and resorting to personal insults when you can't keep up. I'll go on a limb here and assume you're American.",
"> our goal is to grow wealth for everyone\n\nlmao buddy read a book",
"This thread is making me sad. There's so much misinformation being stated as fact. This level or reasoning is for Facebook, not Reddit.\n\n\nhttps://www.economicshelp.org/blog/glossary/banks/",
"Yeah. They have one more season after that. I had stopped watching by that time. I always felt a little dirty after I watched it…",
"That's not charity you dunce.",
"OK for anyone who hasn't seen this show, check it out, just some really fantastic, creepy surreal stuff.\n\nThe very last episode is absolutely amazing. Don't want to spoil why.",
"I never said AML was charity, you did. I just compared the funding. \n\n\nThe Novo Nordisk UK Research Foundation is an independent registered charity that supports research and education in diabetes and invites individuals or departments in the UK working within the field of diabetes to apply for the clinical research awards outlined on this website.\n\n\nRegistered Charity Number 1056410 ",
"Did you shut down the catholic church?",
"Yeah, I get it. It's just kind of dumb. Sorry to hurt your feelings.",
"Extremely underrated show",
"Oh no guys someones upset that other people liked something they didnt! And its involving something as subjective as comedy!?! heaven forbid.",
"https://youtu.be/wM6exo00T5I?t=75\n\nim sure no one in banking or finance feels this way then.....",
"Both seasons are available for free on the [Internet Archive](https://archive.org/details/wonder-showzen-complete)",
"Daddy!",
"Fuck I have to see if I still have it kicking around",
"Grown men running away from a child with a microphone",
"This show was incredible and way ahead of its time.",
"Was that stevie Cohen who didn’t get a chance to exploit people today? DRS GME",
"They don't know what aml/bsa is, don't bother man. I work with our fincrimes group often, super cool people. Glad you are proud of your work, good luck catching bad guys.",
"Holy shit people really don't know what aml is lol",
"av club did a great write up of these segments earlier this year: https://www.avclub.com/wall-street-avengers-and-little-hitlers-an-oral-histor-1846648251/amp",
"Nobody... Yet.\n\nAlso,\n\nYou can't run from a child!",
"From the same people who brought you Xavier Renegade Angel, The Heart She Holler and The Shivering Truth.",
"i think about this clip once a week. this clip lives rent free in my head, for real",
"that was great, thanks!",
"“Patience” is art.",
"I was just about to ask the same question.",
"Thanks man, appreciate it. Yeah it's pretty shocking, people really hate bankers and think they are evil. Crazy stuff.",
"Wat",
"You mean a Hollywood movie about one of the biggest fraudsters ever in investment banking, Jordan Belford? \n\n\nYes, millions work in the banking industry and most don't feel that way.",
"I made the mistake of watching this show on mushrooms. That was the only time I lost my shit, 2/10 stars do not recommend.",
" Not upset that you liked it. That would be dumb. \n\nI just think the kid was exploited. She has no idea what's going on and they had her confront grown men about something she doesn't understand. \n\nYou seem more upset than I am.",
"Lol. No. That’s not how that works. Read Satoshis white paper.",
"Huge influences on a ton of modern shows",
"I understand decentralized and deregulated currency. I'm saying many banks are tracking fund transfers to crypto exchange and will begin tracking it as assets soon, unless you withdraw cash and do it in person. Inb4 omg capital gains tax on my cryptooo\n\nGood luck buying 100k worth of coins with liquid cash though, or meeting a shady dude to cash out with a briefcase full of $",
"Most of Reddit hate their lives and jobs and despise the fact that they can’t complete with financial industry salaries.",
"Truth"
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"Yawn. Another proselytizing champagne socialist using the strawman argument that the only options available for UK healthcare are: 1) the current bloated inefficient system, or 2) the USA.\n\nI do sometimes wonder what people on the continent must think of the UK's religious-like venerance for the NHS. Must seem weird in a country with more privatised healthcare that's still free at the point of service.",
">Must seem weird in a country with more privatised healthcare that's still free at the point of service. \n\nHow do you mean",
"yawn. what is your agenda , old bean. Privatisation of any service has been shown time and again to fail as companies look to cut costs, maximise profits and give huge dividends to shareholders and CEO's...but hey..you know better! The NHS has become much more efficient over the pandemic...any privatisation is a cash cow for the wealthy disinterested!",
"I think the argument that somehow because nationalisation of the railways failed before that it will do so again is every Torys dream. You know, we learn and grow...but if you genuinely think that the manufactured energy industry, rail industry, water industry has been anything but disastrous, then as I said before ..you must have an agenda...or your head in the sand!",
"Another do nothing capitalist who just shrugs and says 'don't worry about the exploitation behind the curtain'.",
"The global right are working hard to funnel taxpayer money into private capitals hands. Aka their fiends, business partners or future board associates. \n\nHere is Sweden we the liberals and conservatives have already experimented with this and surprising nobody these companies always did the most expensive treatments disregarding established medical praxis (like doing operations when medical treatments exists). Also the already mostly healthy are prioritized, since they are cheap to treat, but pay the same. Shoveling those who really needs care to the state run hospitals, now running on tighter budgets. \n\nPrivate tax funded health care is mostly a gift folks.",
"lol, you can't really be a socialist and a multimillionaire.\n\n>the only options available for UK healthcare are\n\nWell what would you see as the options available?\n\nI am someone that recognises that everyone has a right to healthcare, so you get that regardless of what physical condition you are in, how much wealth you have, whatever. You just get it because you need it. I am also someone that likes my society to be fair, as in everyone ending up pretty equal. Like, if I happen to inherit a lot of wealth I shouldn't get to be able to buy more life than someone else. I don't want my society to be like that. So what would you say is the best healthcare system for me given that?\n\n>a country with more privatised healthcare that's still free at the point of service\n\nCould you elaborate a little on this?",
"My agenda is services, the fundamentals if you will, owned and run by the society that benefits from them. Numbers don't quite explain how bad privatisation has been for rail....any improvements were from a pretty low base. The price of tickets and the very ticketing system itself is a nonsense...How can such a small country justify having so many separate businesses running trains? My wife's annual ticket increased incredibly over the years before the Pandemic..for a gradually worsening service!",
"The fact you don't know what I am talking about just illustrates how clueless the average British person is on the different healthcare systems deployed worldwide. Take a look at France, Germany and half a dozen other countries that offer partially privatised universal healthcare. The options are not NHS or USA. People with an agenda (including Stephen Fry, apparently) will seek to frame it that way but it is simply not the case.",
"I'm American not British and I'm still confused what you meant by that sentence",
"Japanese businesses are that..Japanese..most of ours are run by foreign companies.\n\nThe fact that Government had to intervene in ticket prices just shows what a farce the whole thing is.\n\nIf private businesses had not managed to increase users in an age of road traffic and human population explosions then they really would have been useless.\n\nModernising fleets...its their job!!! Did they provide them in a timely manner and with enough carriage numbers?....no!!",
"You don't provide facts..just a narrative! I agree that this conversation should end as you seem unable to accept that the current system is not working for the people! Your answers are political, not in the interest of the public..the facts are so clear that someone as intelligent as you should see..all the industries we are talking about are being or will be brought back into public ownership...because they are shit as they stand.",
"Ok! I read all you wrote and none of it sees past the rose tinted lens of the figures. Customer satisfaction is down..carriages insufficient, prices and ticketing far too complicated and high...tell me where those things are not true!!? Numerical facts (which are too easily manipulated) have to be put in context not only with what has been before, but what companies are capable of doing if they are not feeding the trough of investors! \n\nJapanese railways are by and large owned by Japanese companies!"
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"I love that lady. That was an awesome Hot Ones.",
"Lost interest as soon as they started talking about the shitty NFT cartoon.",
"5:40 Ashton was setup perfectly to yell \"Damn, Jackie!\" when she called him out for having all his 70s show clothes.",
"I lose interest the second it showcases celebrities...",
"much more of an advertisement now, but long form interviews can still be interesting if it's someone you find interesting. The one with Lorde was a good watch.",
"Homegirl just straight up drank some Ranch dressing.",
"You know the guest is in trouble when they say the first wing is spicy.",
"It's the only way they'll do the show. I think Paul Rudd's the only one not to sell something in his episode.",
"[ **Jump to 05:40 @** Mila Kunis Hits the Ranch While Eating Spicy Wings | Hot Ones](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAeOzDhL6tc&t=0h5m40s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: First We Feast, Video Popularity: 99.15%, Video Length: [24:45])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@05:35](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAeOzDhL6tc&t=0h5m35s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)",
"So... what, you want a show where a random Joe off the street is interviewed over some hot wings?",
"She's a charm factory",
"It’s not the selling. It’s the bullshit she’s touting. NFTs, shitty cartoons, having the gall to say it’s revolutionary. All that stuff.",
"Hot Ones is a talk show, and they get guests because they are doing the commercial campaigns mostly. Sometimes they get the odd ball out that just wants to do the fucking show. I think this was one of those, yeah she's plugging her show but that's what it's about. If you thought Hot Ones was about getting people on there that DON'T have anything going on - you are severely mistaken. Sean literally - in every single episode - this camera, that camera or that camera - tell us what you got going on in your life.\n\nI know where you are coming from, I've watched this show from the first episode, but you should know what you're watching if you like Hot Ones. And for the record, no I don't like some of the guests who are purely doing it for the exposure. Mila Kunis is not one of those guests. Ashton did the show and he is in the background watching her doing it, it's a fun thing for them - not a chore.\n\n(edit) the first shows were more real I can admit that, then in the middle we got something like what I was talking about before, it all depends on the guests too. I have a feeling they 'tone down' the sauces for certain guests also, and I feel like Sean is being... Hard to pin-point but a bit disingenuous at times. But then we get guests like Mila Kunis who genuinely WANTS to be there and gives it her all, that's what this show is about - yes, a few guests don't want to be there and just treats it like any interview, but they are recently very few and far apart fortunately, but they have had them.",
"Fuck you machine gun Kelly. Lol",
"I don’t mind what the show is doing. I like the show. I’ve watched other episodes and enjoyed them. It’s this specific crappy cartoon NFT bullshit I don’t like. NFTs are problematic for many reasons. She’s touting this shit because her husband is a douchey tech bro who will make a lot of money off of this idea if people buy into what she’s saying.",
"Okay well.. I can't argue with you on that, I don't watch her show and I don't even know what it's called..."
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"So uh what’s the back story here? You say they’re thieves but I just see some crazy fucker assaulting some women.",
"He’s accusing her of pickpocketing. They speak Russian with Ukrainian accent. And he’s a dick with a dick in his hand…",
"What a Vulgar Display of Power. This guy had a Mouth for War, took things to A New Level, made those women Walk. All because he got Fucking Hostile. They all seem like such Regular People.\n\nThey really felt This Love while he got a Rise. They seemed to Hallow after it all.",
"I'm not sure I just saw a weird video on YouTube with 27 views and felt the need raise it from obscurity by merit of its absurdity",
"Just how my brain works. Saw the dildo, saw him hitting them and thought what a Vulgar Display of Power. The rest just fell into place mentally. Didn't want to mention Pantera directly to see who would get it. No fun in giving away the answers.",
"You need a lesson on what is must see n"
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"Chills! This is a difficult piece… she did an amazing job!",
"So are we just not going to talk about how short that other kids tie is?",
"Wow that was beautiful. Thank you for sharing.",
"Okay, so that was 9 years ago. \n\nUpdate on this (now) 20 year old killing it in the music scene?",
"TIL that your tie grows proportionally with your singing skills."
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"Go check him out - he's awfully underrated!",
"A Canadian did this like a decade and a half ago. Traded a paperclip and ended up with a house.",
"I also did this around 2006.",
"Oh cool! Do you have any of his good content to post?"
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"I don't think anyone ever accused Family Guy of not knowing how to be offensive.",
"r/titlegore",
"I know I upvoted this…but it says zero 🤣",
"yea alot of people with several accounts downvote everything that's new so only theirs gets a changes to grow",
"Quality content 🧐"
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"It came back to bite them though",
"People still think they can beat 3 card monti ... Every time... Always people silly enough to line up!",
"There are three ways of doing things around here: the right way, the wrong way, and the way that I do it.",
"Great movie! On par with Goodfellas.",
"Almost seems like he broke character actually at around 0:58 \"I'm firing you. No I'm not firing you, I'm firing you ya f...!\" then he looks around like he forgot a line.. maybe just me.",
"The worst decision in the entire movie was when Ace didn't let this guy back and just get him to count the blueberries in the muffins or something",
"The guy getting fired was supposed to say his line with a more south drawl \"You're far in me?\" or something like that lol.",
"And what's up with these muffins?",
"Actually that makes sense. But still feels like De Niro wasn't in on it either and maybe it wasn't obvious enough for them to scrap the scene? Honestly feels like a blooper",
"It's not a great life lesson because people can learn. In this case it is merely *eventus magister stultorum*.",
"You don't think it was worse to take his junkie cheating wife back repeatedly after putting their daughter in danger?",
"Shit man, I’ve never seen this movie and based on that clip alone now I want to see it.",
"True that but that guys family had connections to the gaming commission, which is why ACE got in so much legal trouble.",
"[After hearing the desert meeting scene in this movie described as \"USA and Israel yelling at each other over the Middle East\"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2dewDwIQyM) I've never been able to see it any other way lmao",
"The actor playing the guy getting fired was a movie critic of B-movies in the Dallas area when I was younger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe\\_Bob\\_Briggs",
"Joe Bob had a pretty good national run on Showtime and maybe TNT/TBS too? Looks like he is still doing the thing and actively touring!",
"\"You fucking momo\" what a great insult",
"Joe Bobb",
"Totally agree but you see it all the time, doesn't always look so unintentional as it does here. But then again, this is one of the greatest actors, making it look unintentional is all in a days work for this guy",
"I'd like to think Joe Bob Briggs could pull off a drawl if he had to.",
"He went national! I remember watching Joe Bob on TBS in Florida.",
"The movie is unreal and it's based on real events.",
"From the [Script I found](https://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/casino.html):\n\n\n WARD\n You're firin' me?\n\n ACE\n I'm firin' you? No, I'm not firin'\n (mocking WARD)\n I'm firin' you, you -\n\n Gives SHERBERT a look.\n\n WARD\n You might regret this, Mr Rothstein.\n\n ACE\n I'll regret it even more if I keep \n you on.\n\n\nDunno if that's the script they used while shooting or if it's one written after the fact, but if so looks like he followed it",
"He almost got blown up for firing that guy. His car sure paid the price.",
"He’s on Shutter TV now.\n\nEdit: Shudder",
"His real mistake was that he didn't accept the offer from the gambling commission to keep him as a dancing monkey. Leaving him there in his position if he was a security threat could have been disastrous as well.",
"De Niro does this often, that's what makes him a great actor. Most actors focus on delivering lines perfectly. In real life, people don't talk perfectly, people make pauses, people wind up to say something and then don't, people hesitate. De Niro can do perfect delivery 99% of the time and then he adds in that 1% of imperfection which makes it look like he is a real person in a real situation saying the words for the first time.",
"I watched and thought he had reached a point where he was incredulous and couldn't believe there was someone this dumb.\n\nBeing around someone that stupid and aggravating turns my brain off occasionally, too.",
"This firing was the catalyst of all the bullshit that went down later in the movie. Ace should've just moved him to the kitchen and gave him a savvy title like \"Supervisor of Blueberry Logistics\". The idiot wouldn't of known the difference.",
"Godfather: what the mafia wants/thinks they are.\n\nCasino: what the mafia was.\n\nGoodfellas: what the mafia is.",
"HA! Nice! That pretty much seals it then in my mind. Well done",
"What's the lesson?",
"Thats funny because I've always really liked the way he delivered that line. It's like he's so mad he can't think straight and stumbles over his words.",
"For sure and it looks like he nails it here. Someone else linked the script and it's identical word for word even to the look he gives.",
"Yeah and it looks like I read it wrong because he is actually following the script word for word even down to the the looks he gives at the end.",
"Monster Movie Madness on TNT!!!!",
"[ **Jump to 00:58 @** CASINO(1995) ACE FIRES IDIOT COWBOY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcZHSGyos6g&t=0h0m58s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: THE-ALBANIAN-GUY, Video Popularity: 97.10%, Video Length: [01:14])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@00:53](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcZHSGyos6g&t=0h0m53s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)",
"You're a funny guy.",
"When some people behave stupidly, you have to ask yourself if they're actually stupid or if they're being deceitful. What appears to be an accident caused by people who don't know any better might just be a clever way of covering intent.\n\nCheck out this story of an AFT agent that went undercover with a biker gang.\n\n\\[“Billy was what we call a slow-brain,” said Buddy Mgrdichian, the owner of South Pacific bike shop. “I remember once he couldn’t figure out how to put a \\[wheel\\] fork on a bike right after we showed him.”\n\nMgrdichian said Billy didn’t understand the way Harleys are registered. Mgrdichian has been charged with telling workers in his El Monte shop to grind off vehicle identification numbers on Billy’s bike, a federal crime. Mgrdichian claims those numbers weren’t official VIN numbers but merely serial numbers stamped on parts that have nothing to do with registration.\n\nFor the most part, Billy’s work netted mid-level felony charges like Mgrdichian’s. He recorded hundreds of hours of conversations with a wire he wore in the later months of the investigation. He wrote thousands of pages of reports. He went to “headstone ceremonies” for downed bikers and to “church” (chapter meetings), and to scores of weekend runs, riding in tight formation with the collective glint of 50 polished chrome bikes nearly blinding oncoming traffic.\\]([https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-sep-18-me-22970-story.html](https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-sep-18-me-22970-story.html))",
"He would have fucked that up too.",
"Whadda ya mean I'm a funny guy? Funny how?",
"Use it way too often. Love that one.",
"Bart: \"Isn't that the wrong way?\"",
"Marrying a junkie wife beholden to a broken down, no good, piece of shit pimp in the first place was his biggest mistake. A lot of great performances in this movie and James Woods' portrayal of Lester Diamond is one of them. You can almost see the sleaze dripping off him when he is on screen.",
"Maybe, if he really was that dumb. But you also had to ask yourself if he was really in on it the entire time.",
"I agree that its unusual dialog for a movie/tv show but to me it felt like thats the point where he would've knocked him out if the dude wasn't well connected and he wasn't in the middle of a casino floor so thats why he couldn't speak properly lol",
"wouldn't have*",
"Still is national, they revived his B-Movie show on Shudder. Dude hasn't skipped a beat either.",
"Even after that he could have taken the \"Food and Beverage Manager\" position and still run the casino.",
"\"Not if I'm the one doin' it.\"",
"The decision to fire him wasn't what did it. The decision to not play politics and let the guy come back as a low end worker is what did him in.",
"It's a cash operated business in the 70s, everybody was skimming to a certain degree. The guy was just too stupid to cover his tracks.",
"True, but either decision differently would have worked out, either not firing him in the first place and just demoting or just bringing him back as a do nothing peon.",
"Joe Bob, used to watch him in Ohio. Loved that guy.",
"It’s great.",
"Wow he did not age well",
"No, you said it!",
"So... is it real or not?",
"it would be with less Sharon Stone and James Woods. Just too much trashy “drama” with that side of the story.",
"wow im jealous, youre in for a real treat",
"MonsterVision",
"[You have disappointed me, sir.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P0JM3h7IQk)",
"Shot at 0:32 is amazing and I love De Niro´s glasses in this scene.",
"Also a great lesson - don't let your ego mess with someone who is juiced in",
"Yep!",
"I actually never understood what *exactly* set it off. After a second watch I believe the downfall was inevitable as the FBI were tapping Piscano in Kansas. Chances if the cowboy stayed the operation would still get busted:\n\n\"You can't believe it. I mean, who\n\nthe hell would believe that the FBI\n\nhad a wire in the place lookin' for\n\nsome information about some old\n\nhomicide about some guy who was\n\nwhacked-out, God knows when, over\n\nGod knows what?\"",
"I don't agree. The decision to let him back was asked as a favor which would have been extra brownie points with a powerful Anti-Semitic pappy",
"Strong agree.",
"I agree. Woods is an underrated actor. So great in Salvador.",
"True, but he was a powerful guy. Who knows how he could have helped him?",
"I always took it as an internal struggle between the part of himself that’s pissed off at his incompetence and the part that knows he is going to hear about it if he fires him.",
"Here's a little tip on playing blackjack from a former Vegas pitboss. Most casinos will put the eye on a player once he gets to about 20x his initial buyin because beyond that the normal probability variation is stretched to its natural limit. \n\nCounters are much easier to spot than even they sometimes realize. The biggest tell of a counter is changing the betting range but how the counter deviates from basic strategy when the deck is either very plus or very minus. If a guy suddenly takes insurance with an ace showing when the deck is very plus or stands on 15 and 16 against a face card, it's pretty obvious they are counting. Capable black jack players never play \"hunches\", even if they are not counting they usually adhere very closely to basic strategy.",
"I briefly worked in a casino when I was 21 decades ago. Had old timer pit bosses that knew the guy that movie was about. Oh man…they sure had stories. The two things they all mutually said was: \n1) The desert around Las Vegas is full of the bodies of cheaters. \n2) It was better when The Mob ran Las Vegas, because they had the backs of the workers. For example, If some jerk threw a drink on a dealer, or grabbed a waitress’s ass, that person would get tied to a chair in the storage room and beaten with an extension cord. They’d also take their picture beforehand and pass copies around to all the other casinos. 86 them from the entire town. Now it’s all corporate, and they don’t give a shit about the workers.",
"He’s 68. He looks like a 68 year old.",
"He still has a show streaming on Shudder.",
"I never understood why I liked casino less than I should have until you told me. You’re spot on.",
"He did though. He switched job titles many times, but his ego got in the way and he started going on TV",
"Having been around Lefty Rosenthal in the 80's, I can most assuredly say that is exactly how he spoke to people. I worked with a dealer at another strip casino who auditioned as a young man at the Stardust when Lefty was running the show. My friend had juice with a big boss, so he was going to get hired, but the boss gave him one condition: he had to change his last name to Smith. He had an unusual last name that he shared with a cousin who Lefty fired for something and if he saw that name on a dealers name plate he would have went ballistic. My friend dealt there for 3 years as Mr. Smith and Lefty never found out.",
"One of my favorites for sure !",
"He was perfectly cast for the role",
"Don't fuck with people on your job that are \"Juiced in\", and contain your ego. Even if you are the head of the organization there are many moving parts and unknowns. Loose lips sink ships",
"Casino: Love and Honor in Las Vegas\\[1\\] (ISBN 0684808323) is a 1995 non-fiction book by crime reporter Nicholas Pileggi that depicts the story of the alliance of Mafia mobsters Lefty Rosenthal and Tony Spilotro and their exploits working in Mafia controlled casinos in Las Vegas. \n\n\nKirkus Reviews called the book \"riveting,\" writing that \"Pileggi offers a blow-by-blow account of how organized crime looted the casinos they controlled as silent but deadly partners during the 1970s.\"\\[4\\]\n\nMuch like goodfellas I assume much is accurate with some cinema flair by Scorsese. It's based on real events",
"If you want solid entertainment its worth a watch. I liked it as much as goodfellas. be warned it's a 3 hour runtime but somehow feels like two",
"Do you have any idea how long thats going to take?",
"The Sopranos: Such an accurate representation that the mob thought someone was spying on them or had an insider. Which was learned when the FBI was actually spying on them and overheard them talk about it.",
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"For me - I loved this movie.. well I loved the FIRST half of this movie. The second half, while still good, wasn't as engaging for me as the first part.",
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"Still kinda bugs me that counting cards is bad. I mean, you aren't using equipment, just your own ability. I get that it is unfair to the house, but still seems like nothing more than another \"strategy\" to play.",
"what *is* a momo?",
"That's not wrong.\n\nSomeone who made a mistake once will be sure to avoid making it again. If you fire him for it, you trade someone who will never make it again for a newbie who might well make the same mistake a bit further down the road.",
"Yeah, but faster.",
"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't really out to get you.",
"1950's Italian-American slang for a moron.",
"Ace made his bets like a brain surgeon, was aware of the consequences and asked a favor to move the guy to another position. Sure a,liability and not to be trusted, but I never got why Ace wanted to run things \"his\" way only, when so much is outside his control",
"Don't forget about the ratio of blueberries in each muffin. That's an important life lesson too.",
"I loved this film, one of my favorite films of all time.\n\nAnother great scene is [the muffin scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz_-k9qoYns) shortly after. Receiving a muffin with no blueberries acts as a visual metaphor for how he's getting the short end of the stick from everyone around him.",
"Especially since it's trivial to counter: get a shuffling machine.",
"From now on I want you to put an equal amount of upvotes on each comment",
"i treat them like i treat Pulp Fiction and any time Bruce Willis's girl was on camera. Can't STAND her. Fast Forward every time.",
"You did.... You fired him.... You fired him a little bit. A little bit you fired him.",
"I don't see how it's any different from having, like, a good poker face or being good at timing the thing to stop on those old slot machines where you have to manually stop the spinners.\n\nMay as well say a good football player is cheating because he almost never fumbles the football.",
"De Niro freezing on that expression from 2:25 until 2:42 always cracks me up. I like to think he's still wearing that expression right up until the end of the scene, even with the dust passing over his face.",
"https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Bob_Briggs",
"Mormon.",
"Dang but I do love me some momos.",
"Great fucking movie",
"Yes yes, we all know the great parable of Ace and the Casino.",
"Ang’s lemur.",
"It's not illegal, you're just playing the game really well. They can't take your winnings, you're just nó longer welcome. And with facial recognition databases the casinos use, you get banned in Vegas, the next day you are persona non grata in Monte Carlo and Macau.",
"One of my all time favorites, not for everyone but imo definitely worth a watch.",
"Poor Joe Bob can't get a break.",
"It's also trader slang for momentum.",
"so do intelligent people.",
"Or choosing a life of crime. Could be that too.",
"I can tell you the guy they killed at the end and buried in the cornfield was a real guy and one of the murderers was my neighbor.",
"No he’s just mocking the guy because it’s obvious he’s fired, he says “I’m not firing you” facetiously.",
"That's a cool story, thanks for sharing! Did you have many interactions with him?",
"> But still feels like De Niro wasn't in on it\n\nLook you momo, either De Niro had no idea and was just saying his lines or he was in on it. Either way the movie came out.",
"> Mgrdichian\n\nwhat in the actual fuck",
"As someone else said, he hosts a movie show on Shudder these days and just has an encyclopedic knowledge of movies and the people who make them.\n\nVery entertaining.",
"And in Japan momo means peach 🍑",
"A life lesson if you’re a casino owner? I don’t employ people",
"Like actual peach, or peach emoji peach?",
">Sharon Stone\n\nShe more than held her own in a movie with De Niro and Pesci. She killed her role, i was genuinely surprised. But damn was her character annoying.",
"I’m confused. Peach is momo, emoji is emoji. These are all separate words",
"> Mgrdichian\n\n[Middle Eastern Surname, mostly Armenian](https://lmgtfy.app/?q=mgrdichian+origin)",
"The peach emoji can be used to signify something that is not actually peach, or indeed any other form of fruit, much as the eggplant emoji does not mean eggplant. So when you said peach and put the emoji I was wondering if you were actually talking about the fruit or using a euphemism.",
"It's so true it's unbelievable.",
"It's worth remembering though that the movie made some poetic licenses to make the protagonist look good. The whole \"wife\" section was much more complex in the real life.",
"Burt and Ernie instead:\n\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vWBB7WtuFyM",
"Ohh, thanks for clarifying. I get what you mean now. Yeah, it’s definitely the fruit. Since we’re on the subject, kuchi means mouth. It also means vagina in American slang, but is spelled much differently. \n\nhttps://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kootchie",
"No one's accusing them of cheating. Football is designed, as best it can be, to be fair. Casinos have no such concession. If you cost them money, you're not welcome.",
"Oh don’t get me wrong, she is amazing and amazing in the role…I just detest the role and that entire side of the movie…like a shitty side quest B-Plot",
"I'd like to buy a vowel.",
"Max Power, that's the man who's name you'd love to touch, \nbut you musn't touch! \nThat name sounds good in your ear, \n but when you say it,\nyou musn't fear. \n'Cause that name could be said by anyone!",
"MonsterVision on TNT in the late-90s.",
"I might be in the minority but I actually like it more than Goodfellas, both great flics though.",
"Sorry sir, doing my best",
"Didn't they scam him? Been a long time",
"Sharon Stone character was made annoying with purpose of making the protagonist look better. \nIn real life the marriage was a daily hell with a controlling freak.",
"Exactly why I prefer it over Goodfellas.",
"His review column was nationally syndicated in the 80s. And major newspapers ran it; it was in the Seattle P-I (one of the two dailies at the time). I remember him reviewing a classic 80s low budget sex comedy \"Hardbodies\". He said in the intro, \"I'm getting a hard body just thinking about seeing this movie\" or something like that.\n\nHis column didn't last much longer in the Seattle paper.\n\nIf you want to distill the purest Joe Bob essence, get the DVD for the original \"I spit in your grave\" where he does a commentary track and posits a spirited defense of the director and his movie as a feminist, anti-rape statement. And honestly, he won me over. I don't think the movie succeeded on those levels at all, but he makes an excellent case that this is exactly what the director was going for.",
"Yeah that was literally the moment he lost the gaming commission.",
"anybody can die at any time",
"Though on the plus side extrajudicial torture and killings have dropped.",
">He’s on Shutter TV now.\n\nShudder. (unless he's on a specialty channel about weather-resistant window coverings. Which, to be honest, I'd watch at least once).",
"I don’t care.",
"Trader of what?",
"The funny part is that it actually happened. \nLefty was a obsessive controlling person and he micro managed both casino and his marriage.",
"I just booked my first trip to Vegas in 20 years, today. Wish me luck.",
"Life story as a manager is make sure whoever is in that place is suitable, and not a moron or trying to screw you over.",
"r/JellesMarbleRuns",
"Great lesson for the next time I help run a mob casino",
"* If P then Q\n* If not P then Q\n* Therefore Q",
"That is the most earnest and least confident I have ever seen Joe Bob Briggs.",
"Oops",
"James Woods as the scummy, deadbeat boyfriend was a highlight for me. He always plays a great foil (this movie, Contact, Once Upon a Time in America, etc).",
"The lemur from Avatar the Last Air Bender. Duh",
"Probably the best two-thirds of a movie to be put on film. Shame that last third didn't help.",
"Poker players take money from each other, card counters take money from the casino.",
"Also a company that makes steering wheels.",
"Stocks or the like.",
"Lester. What a low-rent name.",
"Those scripts aren't actually the written/shooting scripts, they're just transcriptions of what was said in the movie.\n\nIt's *very* unlikely, unless you're in the industry, that you'll ever see the legitimate written or shooting script. At best, for big movies the studio might publish what they *say* is the script and you can buy it in a bookstore, but is almost always still pretty heavily edited and cleaned up\n\ne: Thinking on it a little more this probably isn't as true as it used to be, it's probably easier to get your hands on the actual written script these days what with the internet being what it is. Still though, that mostly applies to newer scripts and what you found is almost certainly just a transcription.",
"Exhaled sharply out of my nose. Well done, not easily done.",
"and i was just telling myself i need to watch goodfellas again.\n\nIf this ain't a sign from the cosmos, i dont know what is.",
"That car was a 1984 silver Cadillac Eldorado with burgundy interior, the exact same as my first car that I drove to the theater to watch Casino in. The flames lick up the outside of the stereo and digital display panel, which looked exactly like mine. Was a little surreal.",
"You’ve never worked for a corporate hotel chain breathing 2nd Hand Smoke 10 hours a day, and dealing with violent drunks, I gather. For real, if you had a boss that took a guy that threw a hot coffee in your face out back and beat the ever-living fucking tar out of them and sent them packing out of town for good, you’d be pretty grateful.",
"The only thing that seperates Goodfellas as the better film in my opinion is that Goodfellas has a better pay-off in the end. Casino kind of drags as everything comes tumbling down. Goodfellas races to the finish line.",
"I mean I get it. At that point it isn't really gambling. Why would a casino allow someone to sit there taking money from them?",
"What I call \"Full Metal Jacket syndrome\".",
"He went to Vanderbilt. A long time ago he did God Stuff segments on The Daily Show as John Bloom. Under the shtick is a very smart guy.\n\nI loved how his drive-in movie reviews had summaries/counts of deaths, boobs and types of \"fu,\" like Kung Fu, angry grandma fu, disco fu, etc.",
"\"peach\" in Japanese",
"Do you have any idea how long that will take?",
"Boy when you put it that way I totally support criminal organisations that corrupt societies for personal profit by subverting judicial and bureaucratic processes through bribery, blackmail and violence.",
"I checked out the story and don't see what it has to do with the lesson. \nIs Billy really dumb or not? Is Billy the ATF agent? Is Billy in trouble for grinding off numbers or Mgrtechah? Were they actually VINs, or just company serial numbers like Mgrtaugh said? \n \nI haven't learned the lesson",
"You mean like police? \nI’ve never heard about cops giving a fuck about workers.",
"> Loose lips sink ships\n\nWhere does this fit in?",
"Yeah, the war part of that movie put me to sleep",
"I absolutely loved his reviews in the mid-80s; I couldn't believe they were in a \"respectable paper\" and was pretty crushed when they cancelled it. This was so far before the internet that you just couldn't figure out how to continue reading him elsewhere.\n\nI'm 100% certain his reviews appeared because the normal reviewer just flat out refused to review Hardbodies and those drive-in type movies so they figured \"hey we can just buy this syndicated guy's columns for 25 bucks or so\" and be done with it.",
"Are you a momosexual?",
"On his site he used to have an archive with most all of his old stuff. Great to see another JBB fan!",
"Are you the slow brain? It's in the title of the article that Billy is the agent.",
"Made me think of the American POW in Vietnam that convinced his captors that he was such a dumbass they could just let him wander around and do whatever. They basically treated him like a pet because they thought he was too stupid to abuse his relative freedom, but he was actually using the opportunity to transmit messages from cell block to cell block and memorize dozens of names of his fellow POWs. When he was able to get out as part of a prisoner exchange he was able to recall the names of every prisoner from memory and let their families know they hadn’t died in combat as was feared.",
"Oh, be nice.",
"Yeah i did read something like that. I got this from his wikipedia.\n\nIn an interview about the movie, Rosenthal stated that his character portrayed by Robert De Niro was quite but not fully similar to him, namely \"7 on a scale of 1 to 10\", and when asked about Stone’s portrayal of his wife, he stated, “I really wouldn't want to get into that area. It's an area that is distasteful and brings back bad memories. I wouldn't be willing to dispute what you just said, but I certainly wouldn't confirm it.”",
"This is the correct answer. If he cut bait with her early he would've had a shot at keeping things in Vegas more in check. Maybe mob bosses getting popped would've ended him regardless of any precautions he could've made but it's better than him using time and effort on rescuing a hopeless junky",
"Yes",
"I read that Don Rickles was an absolute bully to De Niro. DeNiro was afraid of him - not sure the veracity but it's a fun story.",
"Some shows and films will also create a final or “as aired” script that incorporates any ad-libs or mistakes the actor makes as well as reflecting any cuts made in post. This frequently is used for closed captioning. \n\nAnd there’s all the various drafts as well. I was a script coordinator for a smaller cable sitcom and at the script level, I had the Writer’s Draft, Network Draft (for first notes), Table Draft “white” (for the table read), the various Revised Table Drafts (identified by page color - so it would be Revised Table Blue, Revised Table Pink, etc.), then the Shooting Script “white” and any potential revisions to the shooting script also marked by color, then the Final Shooting Script which was the very last version of the script in full form with all revision notes and marks turned off on white pages. I never had to do “as aired” so I don’t know if those were made for my show or not. So I guess what I’m saying is, yeah there could be any number of scripts floating around and there’s not ever really an official one.",
"You’re missing the point.\n\nIf card counting was allowed, casinos would literally bleed money. Tables would be filled up with professional blackjack players. Eventually blackjack just wouldn’t be hosted at any casino.\n\nIf you want gambling that has skill, play against players in a game like Texas holdem. It’s unfortunate that card counting is even possible. The spirit of the game, essentially, is a game of chance with really simple probabilities at work",
"Weird because I think the biggest reason I liked Casino over Goodfellas is I wasn't super crazy about the ending of Goodfellas. Trying to leave out spoilers even though it's an old movie but how things turn out for the main character felt unsatisfying to me.",
"To be nice, I’m unable to see the article on mobile because of a paywall. But yes, I am slow brained, and yes even I could tell that billy played the gang like a fiddle.\n\nDemo tape is more than slow brained. He’s the guy billy built his character off of",
"It's a tirade against nepotism. I love it.",
"you like shitty soap opera melodrama?\n\nYikes\n\nThey’ve got like 6 hours a day of it during the afternoons…it’s free too, just pick it up with the ol rabbit ears. Enjoy!",
"Ever since I was a kid, I always wanted to be a gangster…",
"Of course! It's a documentary!",
"Sorry, we're all out",
"reddit of all places failing to understand slang be like:",
"Step away from the flying lemur.",
">small dock energy\n\n🤨",
"Robert de Niro seems to play the non-Italian role in movies filled with Italian roles quite often",
"I don’t care. An. Equal. Amount.",
"I brain automatically pronounced it as \"Mur-di-shee-in,\" kinda curious if that's even remotely correct.",
"I use that scene when I do corporate training.",
"The Dickie Smothers gambling commissioner character in the movie was in real life, Senator Harry Reid.",
"I had no idea this was Joe Bob! Famous as hell in horror circles. Had a show on Shudder.",
"He features prominently in the Documentaries \"In Search of Darkness I and II\" \n\nHe seems like a gem.",
">\tYou’re cute Momo, you’re cute.",
"As long as Shudder keeps Joe Bob, I'm keeping Shudder. That show is great!",
"This is a good comment. This is the real world and what (or used to) happens. Thank you for your comment.",
"The real lesson is how there is a lot of holes in the desert, and a lot of problems are buried in those holes. But you gotta do it right. I mean, you gotta have the hole already dug before you show up with a package in the trunk...so dig the hole beforehand",
"The lesson is \"Don't take lessons from cheesy movie scenes and dialogues\"",
"We had an actual Wise Guy that hung around. All he did was bring in high rollers to wine and dine them. He was terrifying. Nice as pie to your face, but we wouldn’t dare even make eye contact with him unless he addressed you first. They’re called Wise Guys because they’re Made Men that know what sports games are rigged.",
"I was a dealer. I am quite certain he knew who I was (he knew everyone who worked for him), but we never had any personal relations. Like all the casino managers I have been around, he was stone cold serious and didn't trust anyone. \n\nThat scene in Casino where Ace is explaining to the audience how the floor supervisors are watching the dealers, the pit managers are watching the supervisors, the shift bosses are watching the pit bosses, the casino manager is watching the shift bosses and the eye in the sky is watching everyone is an accurate description. \n\nCasinos are organized very much like the military: whatever level or rank you hold in the casino, you're discussion about business matters is pretty much applies to peers only. A shift boss may exchange hellos with a dealer, but never would it be anything more than brief superficial niceties. The only people the shift bosses speak to our the other bosses and the casino manager- and the casino manager always wants to know the numbers: Who's winning?, who's losing?, and how is the drop (money and credit in the box, a solid indicator of the casino's expected win). Lefty's biggest contribution to modern Vegas really was his vision of Super sports books where customers can sit at tables and have drinks and watch the games like in a large theatre.",
"Lol it's a casino, people gotta win \"sometimes\" I'm so glad I overcame my addiction to going to the casino. So now I use that money I could've lost on gambling and spend it on cocaine",
"One of my favorite movies ever",
"Personally I've always preferred jiaozi or xiaolongbao. The momos I've had tend to have thicker dough walls and end up feeling heavier than I'd like a dumpling to be. It definitely takes a lot more skill to handroll them thin so I get it, but the ratio of dough/filling is much more satisfying. \n\nThe can be good, for sure, I just find them to be a lower tier dumpling.",
"I agree but it comes down to the casino's right to refuse any bet because it private property, period. It's certainly alot different than Burger King where you always have it your way. They really can't expel you from the casino (unless you make repeated attempts to count), however, all casinos are interested in only one thing: getting as much money in the box as possible. As greedy as a customer may be, the people that actually own the casino are 10x more greedy.",
"And that's why they kept the clip. It's almost like Martin Scorsese knew what he was doing.",
"De Niro + Scorsese = not an accident that made it into the final cut. These guys are both masters of their crafts (acting and directing). Seeing reddit question this is getting me a little warm.",
"Isn't it obvious? We're all Mgrdichian.",
"Joe Bob fucking rules",
"Keeping people who are incompetent or scamming you around is a terrible way to run a business. You have to let people go. You can't be afraid that every mid-level dummy is going to have a big vendetta against you, and if you handle the separation right they usually just go get another job.",
"As another commenter [said](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qhu3ee/a_great_life_lesson_from_casino_1995_listen_if/higksc5/), that's a transcription, not a script. And it's an okay attempt at a cover-up job, but it's not accurate.\n\nThe first \"I'm firin' you\" is clearly not a question, there's nothing mocking in his tone or expression, and the final \"you\" (there's only one at the end there, not two) is basically said backwards, as he looks around for help -- his brain seems to have become confused about wtf it's supposed to be telling his mouth to do.",
"I ask myself that question constantly after certain FB posts from sceptical sources. I got one connection who pastes flat earth videos among all sorts of other anti-anything shit. I always wonder whether he’s deliberately spreading propaganda or just thick as shit. Does my head in every time I see a post that is some copied link or article and all he’s written is ‘Interesting’ followed by the link. Fucking muppet.",
"So it’s really both",
"holy fucking shit. I've seen that movie 100 times. I read your comment and was like no way...it can't be that great a fit. Damn that was fucking hilarious. I'll never be able to see it any other way either",
"The sound guy needs shooting for the sounds of chirping rubber tires on pavement though.",
"Always reminds of me a husband whose wife is chewing him out over not taking out the trash or something lol. He has a perfectly good response in his head but knows he just has to stand there and take it",
"That’s not the point of the quote",
"We really need to apply this sense of logic to politicians..",
"Mug-er-deech-yan. Pretty close. The Armenian alphabet, unlike English, is phonetic. So when translated into English, you just try to make the sounds as you see the letters. \nM - muh\nG - guh\nR - r\nDI - dee\nCH - chuh \nIAN - yan",
"There is absolutely no \"great life lesson\" here.",
"* Billy was the undercover ATF Agent \n* Billy was not dumb - he was being purposefully dumb so that the outlaws would explain things to him while being recorded \n* The other guys are in trouble for grinding off the VINS \n* They were actual VINS, Billy played dumb so the outlaws would explain their criminality \n* OP's point is that Billy was so acting so clueless, the outlaws should have suspected he was deceiving them. Similar to the Casino scene, the guy is so clueless they suspect him of being in on the scam.",
"Basically how I view most of the voting public..",
"Thinking that a legally negotiated bases for a romantic relationship with terms and conditions could ever possibly last was Aces biggest mistake",
"I don't thinks Woods was acting, like Courtney Love in The People vs. Larry Flint they just found an actor who had exactly the same personal traits.",
"It’s actually a subtle lesson. The lesson is that every muffin should have an equal amount of blueberries.",
"He still has a show on Shudder! Love Joe Bob!",
"I’ve never seen it, but the editing in this scene is very poor.",
"I too am trying to find correlation.",
"I love this movie.",
"isn't the lesson don't fire and embarrass an important person who you rely on's relative?",
"You're not very creative, then.",
"Think like politicians who have been there for 20 some years. When re-election comes also they are saying how they will change Washington DC. It hasn’t really change in much longer than that. So they should not be re-elected because they are lying and part of the problem or are incompetent and can’t get shit done. Either way re-electing them isn’t going to change anyhting",
"I am giving you my free award for making this post so I didn't have to. You even put in bulletpoints!",
"That is my opinion on politicians getting re-elected after years serving. They are either part of the problem or they are incompetent and can’t get shit done.",
"Yeah the user u/Superhuzza below spelled it all out 100%. \n\nYou always have to make sure that stupid people aren't just playing stupid.",
"Still use momo as an insult to this day.",
"Do you know how long that's going to take?",
"A marble league racer.",
"Fidget spinner flashbacks 😳",
"Look how many upvotes your comment has, and look how many mine has",
"That takes a long time though",
"Seriously? It’s awful for someone to throw coffee in your face and burn you, but we have laws for a reason. Do you really want to live in a society where we just punish people without due process and beat the shit out of them?",
"Lol have you seen what cops do??",
"Oh so the mob is somehow a better alternative?",
"Oh it’s a real legend",
"I am, I'm just not naive. There's no life lesson here at all.\n\nThis is terrible management of an employee, firstly, secondly, things aren't always just black and white.",
"They kept Vegas pretty clean and crime free. You should see it now.",
"It doesn't matter.",
"It's funny how a bunch of people have come up with their own understandings of how that quote is important and you're just like \"NERRRRP I GOT NOTHING\".",
"Too dumb to use Reddit or in on the scam to get people to explain articles in the comments. \n\nEither way, they’re just the type of person we want here!!",
"> \"NERRRRP I GOT NOTHING\"\n\nThis really says it all. Thankfully you'll mature in time.",
"The lesson is it cost him a lot more to get rid of the guy than it would have been to put him a meaningless job with a great title and no responsibility.\n\nNot keeping the guy on once he knew of his connections was a mistake.",
"The article I posted doesn't have anything to do with the movie. At all. It has to do with the \"great life lesson\" I mentioned in the title.",
"SUKA LA MINK YOU FUCKING MOMO",
"\"Old Don is as useless as tits on a boar\"",
"Watching Goodfellas is never a bad idea.",
"We’re allowed to say vagina, you know. It’s not profane, it’s just a word.",
"What the hell are you on about?",
"> Dallas area\n\nI'm from CA and I've heard of him",
"oh my fucking god, I need to watch Get Shorty again.",
"So why did we arrive at twat?\n\nI feel like this is just gratuitous naming at this point.",
"I remember the [Simple History](https://youtu.be/HHiThRa8mb0) episode about this guy. They called him “The Incredibly Stupid One.”",
"Massive understatement.",
"The eggplant emoji is still an eggplant. It just happens to carry a secondary euphemism to it.",
"He shouldn't have fired this guy. DeNiro also needs to learn a lesson, refusing nepotism has consequences",
"Probabilities and Statics",
"https://youtu.be/w6n-oTNMWkI",
"Don didn’t say a word. I came here to hear an insult and didn’t hear one. Dayam. Good scene though.",
"Don't play slots unless you rig them",
"If it's anything like Worcester then it's pronounced \"Bob\"",
"Sure, I've just never seen anyone use an eggplant emoji and not mean it as a euphemism.",
"Side note from Utah: Also a derogatory term for mormon.",
"the lesson is to create dummy positions for un-firable idiots with connections so they damage they can inflict is minimized. \n\ndon't put the son of a shareholders/politician/aunt as head of accounting, move him into marketing or similar.",
"don't offend the retard with a powerful dad. move him into a lateral position where he can't harm you.",
"He also had a cameo in Face/Off as the prison doctor.",
"I've always thought that there's something just very wrong about that whole system. Oh, you're winning at \\*gambling\\*? Well we can't have that. The house has an inalienable right to always turn a profit! It's the same with insurance, really. Like I get why things are the way they are, it just feels so anti-competitive that a business is guaranteed to be lucrative. The whole thing with business is there's an element of risk. You deserve to get a return because you're risking capital. When you take the risk out of it and just pay the obscenely wealthy more money for BEING obscenely wealthy, well, that feels less fair than the odds on a Keno game, doesn't it?",
"Joe Bob! ❤",
"Joe Bob. He's a horror guy",
"My favorite is in Dr. Strangelove when the military guy gets up and randomly stumbles while explaining things. So random",
"I feel like if enough negative press around this issue falls on the casino industry as a whole, legislative change might occur",
"Why not stop offering the game? \n\nOr call it modified blackjack",
"It’s actually short for mongoloid. Same meaning, more offensive",
"Hello friends\r \nI want to share some joyful information.\r \nyesterday I registered [here](http://pof18.com/), replenished my balance by 30$, received a bunch of bonuses (260% Welcome + 40 FS on Wild Hog Luau:) and, as a result, I WIN 1200$ playing “Wild Hog Luau”"
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"u/profanitycounter",
"80's Yuppie is the best base for finance, management consulting, private equity, defense industry or serial killer.",
"Saw Tasteful Thickness at Lollapalooza back in the day.",
"I have to return some video tapes.",
"I prefer [this version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b00KK6EqqE).",
"[I prefer this business card.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YBxeDN4tbk)",
"Who doesn't like the tasteful thickness of a Snorlax",
"[Alternatively](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_HNpheUjBU)"
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"Look at that subtle off-white coloring... the tasteful thickness of it. Oh my god... it even has a watermark."
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"Read the book!",
"^ agreed the book is amazing. But wow to this video. Im still watching it but I did skip to the end just to see their perspective on that title. \nI never thought of it that way. And now I realize why I was so sad at the end of the season. Well freaking said.",
"Love is not only crazy. 🤓",
"Ya know what... I can agree with this. Because Love seemed so \"intense\" for lack of a better word, but he's right. She is in completely different circumstances so it makes sense.\n\nAnd now that I think about it, that ending really does make me terrified of Joe. The dude is right. Respect on the perspective.",
"hahaha \"ultra crazy\"",
"Haven't read the book yet but Im curious how it will feel without Penn narrating at me haha.",
"That is true. Missing some good old Penn. But it is really good and it does some plots much differently. So it’s kinda a new experience.",
"Is anyone saying that Joe is actually normal? I'd be very surprised to hear someone say Love was crazy and Joe isn't a total sociopath/psychopath.",
"No not normal, but a LOT of people are saying \"Look, Joe is trying to be a better person. Love is ruining it for him.\" Which is super dangerous because Love being rash and Joe being calm doesn't make him an less socio/pyschopathic.",
"Yeah that's what I landed on too. Love just comes across as a the \"crazy one\" but Joe is just a more calculated crazy. And the ending is something that only Joe could do so casually.",
"I know, I gotta read the book. On my list :)",
"Trust me. The second book is a completely different story.\n\nI could not even watch the second season because the differences."
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"Fake as fuck.\n\nCompletely spotless and clean but covered in rubbish? Fuck off. They didn't pick up the trash to clean the floor then put the trash back.\n\nr/quityourbullshit is where you should post your videos.",
"My link yes but not MY video calm the fuck down.",
"I love that your triggered tho lmao. : )",
"I'll calm down when you don't put clickbait bullshit in my feed.\n\nCan I shoot you and say it's fine because it's not my gun? twat.",
"\\*you're\n\nNice double reply cunt, who is triggered?",
"yeah I agree OP, this video is EXACTLY like being shot with a gun.\n\nplease film yourself when your pointless anger causes a brain bleed. in the mean time go gargle Elon’s load, you salty simpleton.",
"Be blocked then you triggered fuckin redditor bitch I cant be bothered : )",
"What the fuck were you even talking about?? Lmaooo\n\nYou getting triggered as fuck and bringing up guns to make a point on a video you dont like?? Bet all you do is talk shit all day on reddit. Lol"
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"The Man Show had some classics.",
"ManShow bit- before Kimmel got woke.",
"And unfunny.",
"Also before Adam Carolla turned into an annoying conservative dickhead.",
"Without even seeing the video I started laughing from remembering \"It's ladies night, bitches drink free.\"",
"Is this Andy Milonakis?",
"Disliking Trump is “woke” to his minions",
"No, Was genuinely an 11 year old kid.",
"I’ll google and answer my own question, yes it was Andy",
"You are bad at googling. It wasn't Andy. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1299759/",
"Wtf there are 2 fat man boys that worked with Kimmel? I stand ( sit) corrected",
"Well Andy has the whole growth thing going on, When the beer scene in OPs video was shot Andy would have been 25 years old. As I said before, the kid in this clip is genuinely an 11 year old kid."
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"Fun",
"Not spraying yourself in the face or those around you with beer while also being pretty fuckin’ smooth lmao"
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"The GOAT dropping some knowledge that’s more relevant now than ever.",
"George is a very wise man but I personally believe he's incorrect in saying that comedy usually goes after power. In that statement he is projecting his comedic genius.\n\nI've always maintained that comedy is the only true \"all inclusive\" form of entertainment because everyone can and has been made fun of.\n\nTo me, someone like a Dave Chappelle can enable a Trans comedian to break into the scene to cut him and the other stereotypes...just like Russell Peters did with East Indians.\n\nWhy can't we all just laugh at ourselves from time to time?",
"Late night comedians have been making fun of poor rural yokels since I've been watching TV. \n\nIs this \"punching down?\"",
"Who are they talking about?",
"Dice",
"You already knew he was talking about Dice w/o that namedrop at the end",
"Yes, but I'm not sure I can think of any examples. Do you mean people like Leno?",
"Where do you live?",
">Why can't we all just laugh at ourselves from time to time?\n\nIt's the laughing at other, already marginalized people that's at issue here.",
"He mentions appealing to young males dealing with insecurities about themselves, and it's interesting because now we have an entire wealth of pundits (from YouTube level to mainstream media) that prey on these insecurities.\n\nFrom these insecurities, you then transition these people as they get older into the Tucker Carlson crowd which is that every night there's a new enemy to be on the lookout for.\n\nI truly don't understand the preaching of hate and I never will. I know George is talking more about comedy here but the anger in our news directed at minority groups rather than people in power is becoming a huge problem.",
"I know reddit like to circlejerk over him, but I think he was a sanctimonious pseudo-intellectual who went out seeking the masses and found a way to talk that made the masses think he had depth and some moral superiority. \n\nIn reality, this was all a cover that allowed him to look down and judge others. It is actually a pretty common ploy among alcoholics and drug addicts (he was both), he just had the stage and charisma to make it work.\n\nHe was a relatively funny comedian who tried to look superior by looking down on others.",
"I hear what you're saying which is why it included the example of Russell Peters. Comedy opens doors for every minority to \"stand up\" and put the stereotypes in check while actually making people laugh over the real idiosyncrasies.\n\nI'm thinking comedians like Eddie Izzard could be literally KILLING it right now with all the hoopla going about.",
"He's by no means saying that this is the only way to do comedy, but his explanation might be able to shed light for people saying that others get offended so easily.\n\nThere's a bit of a togetherness in ganging up on the powerful because they can take it and will virtually be unaffected. But some find it harder to beat up on marginalized groups trying hard to gain any traction and be taken seriously",
"Maybe that’s why Carlos mencia and Dave chappelle were so much funnier than him. They weren’t whiners or only made fun of one group. If you hit everyone, it’s all funny",
"I remember briefly thinking Dice was really funny when I was seventeen. Honestly I still enjoy the nursery rhymes.",
"Wait. You don’t think dice was making fun of white people and Italians his whole career?",
"This damn video again? It was on the front page two days ago.",
"reddit loves to frame its political enemies as insecure puritains tilting at windmills and is generally unaware that the sword cuts both ways",
"Oliver, Colbert, Noah...",
"I'm pretty sure you could include all of social media in that critique.",
"Well your username checks out at least",
"all society",
"You disagree that reddit likes to circlejerk over him? That's cool.\n\nYou disagree that he liked to look down on other comedians? Please see this link and watch many interviews.\n\nYou disagree that he was an alcoholic and drug addict? That's cool, you are welcome to disagree with Carlin himself.\n\nHis comedy didn't just \"punch up\" at those in power but also \"punched down\" at the majority of Americans who, at the time, believed in a god, believed in free market economics, and believed in what could be considered traditional American values.\n\nAs an atheist myself, he was the type of atheist that makes all others look bad. He wasn't just an atheist, he was the atheist who felt superior and looked down on anybody who believed in a god. (You see similar in vegetarian and vegan folks, btw)",
"Probably, but unlike instagram which is mostly just vapid and FB which is borderline mental, reddit actually has a pretty strict ideological consensus (at least on the major subs).",
"When he just stops in the middle because the audience is shouting the punchlines and goes \"aawWW YOU DO IT, DEN!\" lmao",
"Eddie Izzard has been doing fine for decades. Just not in the States. She’s moved into politics lately.",
"Or... it could be that shit is funny yo. Don't try and psychoanalysis me dick.",
"Gotcha \nI agree about Izzard",
"Little boy blew.",
"He acted smart to look down on everyone else. So he acted like a bunch of normal humans do.",
">I truly don't understand the preaching of hate and I never will.\n\nYou didn't bother to read your own post as you chose a group to hate on....",
"I don't buy the whole \"certain groups are off limits and untouchable.\" That is not comedy.",
">But some find it harder to beat up on marginalized groups trying hard to gain any traction and be taken seriously\n\nMy issue is this assumption that making jokes is akin to “beating up on” people. Dave has spent his whole career poking fun at black people and all his jokes over the years weren’t beating up on minorities. He’s done that with every group, marginalized or not.",
"This has been posted here ***every single fucking day*** since the Chappelle special. Carlin isn't the Ordained Prophet of Comedy. Sometimes it's funny to punch down, just cause somebody's an underdog doesn't mean they have moral impunity.",
"Dave really got em tweakin",
"But Clay wasn't encouraging his audience to laugh at themselves. He was encouraging laughter directed outward, toward those that Carlin correctly labeled underdogs. Furthermore, Carlin laid out exactly *why* Clay was playing with fire, and it wasn't in a risky irreverent way, either.",
"But he absolutely *roasted* White culture.",
"Who said that?",
"thing about that is he had us laughing at everything and not excluding jokes that applied to people with differences.",
">That's what quotation marks mean. Someone said that.\n\nNo. Not exactly.",
"Carlin was talking about Dice. IMHO Chappelle and Carlin are of made of the same cloth",
"Carlin himself a coastal elite would dump on poor rurals in his comedy.",
"And what group was that?",
"Dave Chapelle cites a major reason why he quit Chapelle show and vanished from the public was because people laughing at his jokes for the wrong reason. He realized his comedy was becoming a weapon for people to use against black people, so I think this is a poor analogy to draw.\n\n\n\n>The third season hit a big speed bump in November 2004. He was taping a sketch about magic pixies that embody stereotypes about the races. The black pixie — played by Chappelle — wears blackface and tries to convince blacks to act in stereotypical ways. Chappelle thought the sketch was funny, the kind of thing his friends would laugh at. But at the taping, one spectator, a white man, laughed particularly loud and long. His laughter struck Chappelle as wrong, and he wondered if the new season of his show had gone from sending up stereotypes to merely reinforcing them. “When he laughed, it made me uncomfortable,” says Chappelle. “As a matter of fact, that was the last thing I shot before I told myself I gotta take f_____ — time out after this. Because my head almost exploded.”",
"ah yes, weep us all now for the misunderstood reactionary, oppressed and neglected and despised, holding no power, weak and undefended. pity the poor reactionary.",
"Can you give an example?",
"I'm not going to comb back through his specials but I know he specifically had bits about how \"dumb\" rurals spoke.\n\nHe also had jokes about how black men wore their pants at the time.",
"Not really. He was upset people took his comedy out of context and were treating it as a bolster for their bigotry. In 2021, Dave is once again upset that people are taking his comedy out of context and are using it for something it shouldn’t be used for. Also, he quit his comedy. As the comedian, he gets to decide when and what he wants to say. Censoring yourself isn’t the same as being censored by others.",
"You know, I now know where the term \"Wall Street Fat Cats\" comes from",
"Chappelle didn't do anything in 2003 that the Wayans Bros didn't already beat him to 15 years prior in that regard. He just did it with a prime time slot and the N-word.",
"Not seeing anything there bro",
"When you watch those specials there's no real \"jokes\" at trans people, unless you consider \"lol trans people are weird\" to be one. That comes off as lazy and yes, a low blow",
"chappelle roasts everyone. he's a brilliant social commentator, that's why he's been around as long as he has",
"And that's one of the reasons I loved this man, may he forever be one with the big electron. Thanks for posting.",
"This may have been around the time he was making fun of gay people dying of AIDS in the 80s.",
"Maybe in the past, but Chapelle has taken a serious turn in the last few years. I think the guy is one of the comedy greats, but his recents specials are not just mean, but they're not funny. The self-victimisation and declaring he's been 'cancelled' in his special (which was broadcast on the world's largest streaming service for which he was paid $25 million) is so dumb and irritating",
"I watched the special. You do realized how stand up comedy works right? The whole thing is jokes. Do I really need to explain this?",
"I completely agree. I say \"trans rights are human rights\" and I get dogpiled by angry redditors canceling me.",
"What were his words? You're only a minority until you're white?",
">His comedy didn't just \"punch up\" at those in power but also \"punched down\" at the majority of Americans who, at the time, believed in a god, believed in free market economics, and believed in what could be considered traditional American values.\n\nSo he was \"punching down\" on the dominant culture in the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world?",
"He needed the money.",
">they're not funny\n\nUh, say what? I've laughed my ass off to every single one of them. The fuck you mean, \"they're not funny\"?",
"My wife had a bad experience at a Carlin stand up appearance. She was in a major depression and was at times suicidal. George finished his routine by telling suicidal people to kill themselves.\n\nI understand that my town isn’t a major destination. And he was probably experimenting with material. But this apparently was pretty bad. And I say this as a pretty big Carlin fan. There are some things you shouldn’t say even in stand up.",
"Jokes are funny. We like Dave.",
"Unfortunately his specials just weren't that funny in relation to the controversial topics. Everything is on the table to be the butt of a joke. But the more controversial the topic, the funnier the joke has to be to compensate. People used to laugh at Andrew Dice Clay just saying shit like \"My buddy gave me a hug and I was like WHOA HEY what are you GAY?!?! LOLOLOL\" \n\nNow you have to do a lot better than that to have a gay joke accepted as funny. That's where we are getting with trans jokes and Dave is uncharacteristically behind the curve. He can't just blame cancel culture because his jokes didn't land. For most of us, the jokes are lazy because \"lol trans people\" just doesn't hit anymore as a punchline. Personally, I don't think trans jokes should be banned across the board. But, similar to a white person making Black jokes, I have a high bar when it comes to the quality of the joke. I think a lot of people feel the same way about Dave lately, even lifelong fans like myself.",
">Carlos Mencia made fun of everyone and he was hilarious\n\nSomehow this is the most problematic part of your comment.",
"What Dave is also missing is that his audience that he wanted to be distanced from when he stopped the show is the same audience that likes him now supporting the transphobic bits.",
"Comedy is subjective, but I find comedians that punch down to be the laziest of the craft. Low hanging fruit isn't necessarily a goal to aspire to; its derided as such because it takes very little effort.",
"Ok. Seems like this should be pretty easy to check if it’s applicable here.\n\nDid they cancel Chapelle, or is he making jokes about being canceled to an audience of millions?",
"Feels good being a straight white man on top of the food chain. Wouldn't have it any other way baby.",
"Yeah, Dave Chappell isn’t racist for making black, Asian, and white jokes, not homophobic for making gay jokes, not anti-Semitic for making jew jokes, but trans jokes? Transphobia",
"Jokes about suicide are common-ish. I’d say if you’re suicidal going to an edgy standup show is probably a bad idea.",
"Gatekeeping. Funny is funny, no matter the victim",
"Saying you're transphobic isn't making a joke. He's transphobic because he says he's transphobic. He promotes transphobia.",
"Finding something funny is subjective, and one is completely free to say they think these jokes aren’t funny. What I have a hard time with is the “transphobic” label being thrown around so Willy nilly and the protests and efforts to cancel, etc... \n\nThis has fast become an untouchable group, and Dave has shown that not even comedy is safe. That was part of his point, that certain ideas and peoples are now sacrosanct and anything that can be perceived as a slight or disagreement is labeled transphobic and hateful. That’s just not the case.",
"The question is why are you laughing? What are you finding funny?",
"Made me nervous how close their faces are.",
"Good to know you know Dave so well that you can label him as a hateful individual. Also good to know when you can tell when a comedian is telling true, heartfelt feelings, and when they are saying stuff to get a laugh. Since you know him so well, what’s he like in person?",
">Why can't we all just laugh at ourselves from time to time?\n\nWe can but that isn't what is happening. Your making fun of someone and getting mad at them for not laughing with you. They aren't the asshole here.",
">*Carlin isn't the Ordained Prophet of Comedy*\n\n[*https://i.imgur.com/zesmPy0.jpg*](https://i.imgur.com/zesmPy0.jpg)",
"That whole argument makes no sense. Straight white men are apparently the top of privilege curve, comedians make fun of white men all the time.",
"I would love to see someone come up with at least one example in this thread.",
"you don't know who's able to fight back until you get punched",
"Dave Chappelle. I thought that would be pretty obvious. You act like he doesn't deliver the content in his signature \"Chapelle\" delivery. I mean, his humor had always gone to some dark places. But he is so good at delivering a punchline.",
"Are you like, totally ignorant of what he said and how he said it? Not to mention how he's been weaponizing the bigoted masses against the trans community by playing victim for being transphobic in the first place? \n\n\nMy dude, he's a bigot. He's facing consequences of that.",
"I know that breaking down and explaining a joke can sometimes ruin it, but what you actually need to do is look at what the punchline was that made you laugh. Good delivery is great and all but that isn't everything, there still has to be a joke.",
"If Dave cared about funny jokes he wouldn't have quit the Chappelle show because his feeling got hurt. Funny how it's comedy talking about trans but it's so horrible to joke about blacks he had to disappear for a decade. It's the hypocrisy that gets people.",
"Telling your audience that if you’re suicidal you should kill yourself is pretty bad man, come on. Anything else I’ve ever heard him say on stage comes nowhere near this. A suicidal person that goes to his show probably has seen a lot of that person’s stand up and thinks the edgy shit they’ve heard isn’t crossing any lines. She could never have foreseen he would pull something like that out. Everything else he had ever done made her a fan.",
"Slapstick is \"funny\" but to pretend it's the same caliber as a well written stand up is silly. He's just pointing out this low bar comedy.",
"For starters, I don't think enough of the people raging over Dave are putting enough thought into what his last few standup specials are even trying to say. \n\nAs for the \"joke\", what exactly are you looking for? A joke is a setup and punchline. If the punchline lands, then the joke was a success.",
"I think that creating a genuinely funny joke about a vulnerable minority group takes a certain nuance that isn't always so easy. Trump, on the other hand, was 4 years of low hanging fruit and nobody thinks joking about him was a punch down.",
"Thats fine I just don't care enough to rewatch his specials.",
"Just my opinion, but I disagree. Not only is Chapelle funny, he’s focused on what’s important. I’m on Team Daphne. It’s so sad that people don’t support the comedian she was and what she stood for.",
"I know it’s hard to comprehend, but it’s possible to say things without truly meaning them. This is actually pretty common in the arts known as “comedy”. Read here for more info \n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedy",
"while trans people are a tiny minority they are very far from being considered as underdog status in today's world and in the media and are extremely vocal so I don't think if that's the point you're trying to make by posting this that G. Carlin would agree...",
"And what consequences is he facing? A couple angry people on the internet? Lol.",
"This is a great Carlin bit\n\nhttps://youtu.be/EjmtSkl53h4",
"You're not punching down when the man is the fuckin president. It's punching up. \n\nThe problem was how much he basically punched himself so much that it's hardly funny for comedians to do so.\n\nThe man ran the entire country on the premise from 8 mile and lazy comedians lined up like Papa Docs crew to basically just repeat his punchlines to him.",
"Trump was one of the most powerful people in the world for 4 years (some would argue he still is, and that his powerful influence existed before he was President)...kinda hard to punch down someone in that sense. \n\nYou pretty much already have drawn out the comparison to the two, by describing the opposite as being a \"vulnerable minority group\" which no one would describe Trump as.",
"To someone who lived overseas and seen shit. You guys have it lucky that Dave is even bringing up this issue to have a conversation. I feel like I've never even considered what trans people go through before and never really cared cause I didn't have somebody in my life or family going through that or living that way. Most of the times that I read or see conversations about this issue, it's always been phrased as if we're all against each other and the only way to win is to argue. All I have to say is that, whatever you see on the internet is like fights that happen in high school these are are exciting, one-off things that prey on your attention. This is not real. The collective echo is not the individual.",
"Okay since so many people get it wrong, let's start with what his last few specials were trying to say? What do you think that was and why?",
"Buddy Christ!",
"Ya here he apparently told the audience if they were suicidal to go ahead and do it.\n\nI haven’t heard the stuff about eating disorders, but I suppose if there isn’t any nuance, and is just hating on them, that’s just hateful and unfunny.",
"Did you watch them all?",
"Carlin talked about comedians punching up instead of down. But during his career he did some punching down as well.",
"What group of people are off limits by punching down? \n\nDon't you think that putting certain people in a group you feel is not as high as another group a slippery slope.\n\nI think true equality is anything is okay to say, anything is okay to laugh at and anything is okay to be offended by. Just don't expect anyone to do anything about it.",
"Joking about the POTUS isn't punching down lmao",
"Will my answer change their meaning?",
"I really found using a dead friend as a rhetorical shield really weird and gross. \n\nBased on Daphne's prior statements, and those her knew her best, we can presume she'd have like Chapelle's latest set. However, we don't know that, because she's dead.\n\nI wouldn't put words in the mouth of my dead friends, especially in order to win a argument with my critics.",
"It will help me to understand if I am communicating with someone who has formed their own opinion, rather than reading headlines and listening to single out of context punchlines.",
"You cant only punch up because there’s only so many jokes about wealthy, old white men before it gets stale. Plenty of comics “punch down”, if not most, but the craft of it is you don’t notice they’re doing it and if you do notice, it’s done in such a smart way you can’t help but agree, or see the truth in it, or at least admire the structure/writing of the joke enough that you’re not offended.",
"Yeah but trump jokes were almost never funny, at least in my opinion. At best they were just cathartic insulting.",
"I miss this man so much ..",
"I'm guessing it was probably the bit about how more men are successful at suicide attempts than women, so it's \"just another thing that men are better at\", so if women want to catch up to men, they need to \"start taking their lives in greater numbers\".\n\nCan't remember what special it was from, but that's the only bit about suicide from Carlin that I remember offhand.",
">I truly don't understand the preaching of hate\n\n\"Say what I say and you'll have a group to be with. The only cost is hating on some minority so who the hell cares.\"\n\nHate groups prey on insecure people. They give you this false sense of bonding when it's more like a bunch of vultures eating a carcass. They use you and your voice to further your goals. And if you dare attempt to leave them, they'll brand you as a traitor and turn you into the same objective of hatred as whatever they were after.\n\nKeep quiet, lower your head, nod along and you'll be \"fine\".",
"We actually do know what she thought. She was very supportive of Dave and made it clear in her last tweet about him. Her family is also supportive.",
"I mean, Andrew Dice Clay was very successful. He's free to make whatever jokes he wants, and people are free to be critical of him. \n\nFunny is a very subjective thing, and changes based on the audience. I know stuff I found funny when I was younger hasn't aged well, and I don't find it a lot of it funny anymore.",
"I remember that bit and chuckled at the time, but looking back it has aged very, very poorly. It fit with his general critique of America at the time, but it lacked an understanding or sympathy for mental illness that is more prevalent today.\n\nThe bit:\n\n“See, somehow, I can't feel sorry for an anorexic, you know? Rich cunt, don't want to eat? Fuck her. Fuck her. Don't eat! I give a shit. Like I'm supposed to be concerned about this. \"I DON'T WANNA EAT!\" Go fuck yourself.\nWhy don't you lie down in front of a railroad train right after you don't eat? What kind of a God damned disease is that, anyway? \"I DON'T WANNA EAT!\" How do we come up with this shit in this country? Where do we get our values from? Bulimia, there's another all-American disease. This has got to be the only country in the world that could ever have come up with bulimia. Got to be the only country where some people are digging in the dumpster for a peach pit, other people eat a nice meal and puke it up intentionally.”",
"Right, I forgot that Michael Richards was telling jokes.",
"If “funny is funny”, Andrew Dice Clay would still be selling out stadiums. Instead, he was last seen as one of the has-beens competing on Celebrity Apprentice.",
"To Dave and George's point, I think there are probably less comedians than there are trans people.",
"We know that, but what she would think about it today is still an assumption. Like I said, her family and friends know her best, not some stranger on the internet.\n\nRegardless, she didn't watch the latest special, she died two years ago. It's still using an assumption about what she would have thought to defend Chappelle's stance today.\n\nChappelle is free to do what he wants. It's something I wouldn't do with any of my friends, and I think it's gross.",
"Seems like you’re misinterpreting his comment despite the pretty unambiguous wording. He’s saying that Trump jokes stopped being funny because of how little effort was needed to make fun of him and how often people did it. \n\nNot punching down is not an automatic indication of a funny joke. Similarly, while punching down is often done lazily it is not an automatic indicator of an unfunny joke.",
"And the latter half of that joke wasn’t that bad part, for me at least. It’s the first part that comes across as pretty mean. It’s possible to make a joke about the irony of eating orders existing in developed countries (even if it doesn’t get to the jist of why they exist in the first place) without being a complete ass towards the victims.",
"Irrelevant. Is it punching down?",
"Nah the alt right are insecure little freaks.",
"> the sword cuts both ways\n\nSure, everyone is insecure. All sides of the political spectrum can spout negative rhetoric, and usually do. But no one on the side of hate ever was on the right side of history. You can have disagreements, strong stances, etc. But people need to look at who they're listening to and is the message informative or straight up combative",
"Shit man watch Eddie Murphy Raw. A lot has changed.",
"unpopular opinion: george carlin is an unfunny moron\n\nthe reason that people laugh is because we all view ourselves as a tragic hero. When you're watching something like Dave Chappelle it's funny because from the outside looking in the LGBT community doesn't necessarily have it as bad as you potentially do. Sometimes this is true and sometimes it's not - regardless, we should be able to laugh at everyone's bits of misfortune.\n\nIf you're laughing out of a sense of superiority then that's a problem but no one watching Dave Chappelles special felt that way. Dave didn't feel that way. The idea that a group needs to be protected because there may be a handful of people in the audience who DO feel that way is absurd.",
"You have angered the liberals.",
"I think you look way to deep into comedy.\n\nIt's simple, if it makes you laugh do you really care if other people are offended?\n\nThe intent of a comedian is always to get the laugh or a reaction from the crowd, no one thinks this deep on it.",
"Best modern example is Joe rogan",
"It's hilarious seeing guys like Andy Richter and Judd Apatow ramble on twitter about \"punching down\" when they spent the first half of their careers making gay and date rape jokes on TV/movies\n\nThe only rule in comedy is making people laugh. The more offensive the subject matter, the more difficult it is to pull off. But there are no lines to be crossed other than maybe bombing, which sucks for everyone in attendance too",
"George Carlin is a really funny guy. A really funny dead guy. As funny as a dead guy can be. Phil Hartman, also dead really funny. Robin Williams, super funny too, also dead. Patrice O’Neal, incredibly funny. Dave Chapelle, Jerry Seinfeld, Chris Rock, Jimmy Fallon, all alive.",
"And Howie fucking Mandel is a big tv star now. Whether or not any particular comedian is funny, or not, my point stands.",
"peak reddit is imaging anything george carlin says is profound",
"That would pass the responsibility to the viewer and thats not ok anymore. It's always the content or cotnent creators fault now. If youre feeling depressed going yo a comedy show for an act like carlin is probably a bad idea. Going to a light hearted prop act might be a better approach.",
"gen x has creamed themselves",
"No, he isn't. He's talking about the target of jokes, and what he feels is accepted.",
"I think it’s a pretty safe assumption based on how well he knew her. For example I can safely say that I’m pretty sure if MLK was alive today he wouldn’t be a white supremacist.",
"thats pretty bad but his point about those being all american or western at least still stands, eatign disorders did not exist in most of the world prior to mass media and you can directly correlate the rise in eating disorders in 3rd world countries with their level of western (usually american) media exposure \n\n\npunching down on the actual disordered folks is wrong and not funny, pointing out the \"american-ness\" of eating disorders and our shitty shallow values is accurate satire",
"I think you're misinterpreting his comment, making fun of the president of the US is the opposite of a puch down, even if the \"punching down\" axis is somewhat orthogonal to the \"originality\" axis.\n\nEdit: spelling",
"Lmao",
"Yep",
"You're on the money about looking for enemies. Murdoch media owns the majority of newspapers in Australia, and any time I see the front page of one is just an exercise in \"Who am I supposed to be scared of today.\" If it's not immigrants and gangs, it's criminals and dodgy tradesmen. Or the Labor governments. Or anyone who challenges the status quo.",
"Won’t be the last time \n\nReddit is really touchy about how lockstep it’s groupthink is",
"You’re account is r/averageredditor to a T",
"Andrew dice clay",
"MLK is a great example. People are regularly putting words in his mouth about contemporary problems, based on what they think he would believe. \n\nWe can assume he wouldn't be a white supremist, but that doesn't stop them from trying to [put words in his mout](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/22/irony-flogs-itself-steve-kings-mlk-tweet-was-worst-number-tributes-gone-wrong/)h. They're not making the same assumptions. \n\nIt's using someone as a rhetorical shield to claim the moral high ground, instead of letting your argument stand on its own.",
"Weird you say this when you post on some of the most aggressively moderated subs on the Internet.",
"Punching down is lazy, boring, and legitimately hurtful. It appeals to powerful groups who feel themselves losing power (white people, men, rich people, etc.) and makes them feel justified in hurting marginalized people. Seeing people like Chappelle make “demands” of the people he literally hurt is equally pathetic and laughable.",
"punch in whatever direction is funny, idgaf",
"From the mind that hatched [this gem](https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/qhtxl3/z/hifncfy)\n\nYou're a rube dude. No go back to your hyper aggressively moderated \"free thinking\" subs. Your handlers will be getting worried about you.",
"All I’m saying is that what’s widely regarded as funny at one point in time might not be regarded as funny at another point in time. For example, comedians in blackface doing Sambo routines were regarded as funny 120 years ago, but not anymore. I’m in agreement that Andrew Dice Clay was never funny, but 30 years ago a lot of people thought he was hysterical for some reason.",
"It was funny on SNL recently where Eddie said he was like the actual family comedian now especially given Cosby (which is hilarious if you know the backstory between him and Cosby).",
"Aka Andrew dice gay",
"What do you think it was? Answer your own question. Explain why you think the jokes aren't funny, were particularly off-base, or are mean-spirited.",
"Egfuckingzactly!\n\nAnd capitalism rewards hate by profiteering on violence, so low and behold an entire system built on oppression and punching down.",
"It's not profound now, but the fact that he stood up for gays, women, and immigrants before it was mainstream says a lot.\n\nHe's not saying anything profound. But it's significant given the context and time period. It's also significant because a lot hasn't quite changed in terms of fragile masculinity",
"*Dave Chapelle has left chat...*",
"Am I allowed to like Carlin and Dave Chapelle?",
"Making fun of one person in power for 4 years is low hanging fruit too. I'm no trump supporter, but Orange Man Bad can only be funny so many times.\n\nI get the impression that nearly any group is fair game. It just depends on how one goes about it.",
"Yes, every comedian who tells jokes is exactly the same as Michael Richards. That one bit Dave does about the baby selling crack? Totally legit",
"Did you watch the special?",
"imagine getting offended enough to post about it",
"No. At the people, not the institutions. I think you understand the difference, you are just faking ignorance.",
"Agreed. If your group has the support of the majority of Americans, you are not an underdog.",
"A point that media is a cancer that feeds on women's insecurities",
"His best bit\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c",
"You and others obviously don't find it funny for political reasons, which is fine, you don't have to watch it. But you can stop pretending it's objectively not funny just because one of the most easily offended groups in the country got offended. There's a reason the special is making money and there's a reason it's being talked about. Many people agree with Chappell and think it is quite funny. Whether something is funny or not is subjective - stating that his politics put a damper on the show for you is hardly a profound criticizm.",
"Chappelle is the only comic left that has never been wrong in his take on reality. oh boy sure do love that Dave Chappelle.",
"First of all, who mentioned Dave anybody?\n\nSecond, consider how privileged you must be if you don't have to worry about your identity being a punchline.",
"NOTE: the first two seconds are the most important….",
"There’s a difference between picking fun and mocking people though.\n\n“Punching up” at rich people or white people is like saying “y’all got it so good, but..” while making jokes about minorities or other marginalized groups is like saying “you jabe it so bad, and..”.\n\nIt’s entirely possible to make a joke about or involving a marginalized group without it being at their expense though.",
"I think his cultural impact is undeniable, but for sure: many of the clips I've seen are just lowest-common-denominator populism and that's not really \"profound.\" \n\n\"It's *the system* man! You're doomed man! It's all rich people man! Corpo-globalism-military-industrial-complex! The American dream is dead!\" Definitely raising a generation of bright-eyed optimistic go-getters.\n\nCould also just be a sign of the times thing, in the way that early Simpsons at the time was groundbreaking whereas today that style of comedy doesn't carry the same weight. Shit, 100 years ago publicly suggesting that women who have pre-marital sex aren't hellbound whores would have led to fainting spells. \n\nTL;DR: [Looks like those clowns in congress did it again! What a bunch of clowns!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC3W1BiUjp0)",
"I mean I like both, so I guess so?",
"An individual comedian (or any artist) is always the underdog when compared to any sensitive, censorious group, actually.\n\nStand up for artists against censorship.",
">\tI didn't have somebody in my life or family going through that or living that way.\n\nThat you’re aware of. Many suffer in silence, afraid of rejection and alienation, not wanting to become the butt of everyone’s jokes.",
"Trans have all the rights the rest of us do they just want us all to bow down to them. They seem to be in the power class right now so making them part of a comedy routine is more then warranted.",
"\"this guy over here is jerking his dick off while the system's fucking your ass over and this politician is sucking the banker off\"\n\nreddit: omg so deep even today",
">I’m on Team Daphne.\n\nLol. Bullshit.",
"One would have to be pretty dense to not realize this is being posted as a response to Chapelle, considering how controversial his statements are at this moment and how it has pretty much overtaken all discussions regarding the art form of comedy.",
"Man I hope this is a troll, lmao.",
"and Dave Chapelle. They're birds of a feather these days, although Chapelle might be slightly less stupid.",
"He got a lifetime ban from ViacommCBS for telling a nursery rhyme joke about going down on a woman on MTV. \n \nMeanwhile they practically gave Chris Brown keys to the network.",
"Not necessarily. It’s entirely possible to make a joke about somebody without it being the same as “picking on somebody” or punching down. \n\nIt’s the difference between giving your friend a hard time because he’s wearing a goofy pair of pants and giving a poor kid a hard time because he’s wearing a cheap pair of shoes. \n\nYou can absolutely make a joke about a trans/gay/black/poor/etc person but when you start making jokes about something they are struggling with, you’re just an asshole.",
"Yes",
"Wow really makes you think huh",
"The person you responded to is a fan of Louder with Crowder and a religious poster on r/conservative so you can probably make an educated guess about whether or not they are trolling",
"Get a grip lmao",
"This is the consensus viewpoint in the world in general, not just Reddit. Sorry pal.",
"Shhh, don't poke holes in their bubble. They get mad when you do that.",
"Maybe. But it's still totally fair to call out comedians on shitty edgelord material that punches down.",
"He's talking about Andrew Dice Clay, isn't he?",
"Bro what? How is it not an underdog class when people are literally ready to attack them in the street for things they can’t change?",
"Being suicidal is common-ish, even amongst literal comedians. I'd say if you're a comedian, making suicide jokes is probably a bad idea.",
"Is he talking about Dice?",
"It's the first rule in the book; the Unwritten Book of the Road.",
"Am I allowed to think you're an idiot?",
"Yeah guys, both sides!!",
"Carlin would have been on Dave's side, regardless of the agenda Reddit is attempting to push. Carlin didn't like censors.",
"I think this clip goes nicely with that one.\n\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUvdXxhLPa8&t",
"I truly don't understand preaching\\*\n\nOnly the credulous and gullible do.",
"[20 years later George Carlin was still spreading Islamophobia](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGRFTsE2-A8).\n\nCarlin had a life long war against people who were religious. He didn't care whether the person he was offending was Christian, Muslim, Shinto, Jewish, or a follower of Haile Sellase... he considered them all to be \"religious\" and therefore the majority. He wasn't even \"woke\" enough to identify that there are significant differences to being a Muslim in the western world and a Christian in the western world.\n\nSimilarly people who are on Reddit all seem to think that they hold some minority /r/unpopularopinion when in fact... they hold the majority view.\n\nGrow the fuck up. If some comedian wants to make fun of trans people and another wants to make fun of sisgender people... they both get to be on stage. If we're going to have comedy that offends no one, I'm okay with that too. But it has to be applied equally. Either no one can be offended or everyone can be offended. There's no fun middle ground where we can make fun of George W's inability to string a sentence together but aren't permitted to make fun of Obama's stutter.",
"There's a difference in picking on someone and making fun of someone.\n\nIt's entirely possible to make literally any joke, it's not upto the person telling the joke how you take the joke. It either makes you laugh or it doesn't, it's really that simple.\n\nSome sort of imaginary marginalisation olympics where if they're above you they must protect you're feelings is actually insane.",
"So....everything even tangentially related to comedy or controversy is now about Dave Chapelle. Good to know.",
"Yep. Trying to take people's livelihoods from them because they don't share your opinions is pretty damn bigoted too. Censors are always the bad guys.",
">just cause somebody's an underdog doesn't mean they have moral impunity.\n\nYou realize that \"somebody\" is singular, right? Obviously it's possible for any *individual* to be worthy of reproach, morally speaking. If a specific person does something morally repugnant, they should be criticized, regardless of their identity or what group they belong to.\n\nBut we're not talking about whether it's ok to criticize a specific individual. We're talking about whether it's ok to criticize an *entire class of people.* In the case of Chapelle, we're talking about trans people. Do you think trans people in general deserve to be criticized, morally speaking?",
"Or, to be more specific - morally repugnant shock-jock comedy is the laziest form of the craft.\n\nAny idiot can figure out what the moral stance is, and then say the opposite. That's perfectly easy to do, and it doesn't make you clever. It just makes you an immature little shit.",
"The issue though is when you start making fun of people for things they can’t help that they struggle with. \n\nHandicapped people, LGBT people, people of different races, mentally challenged people, sick people, etc. \n\nYou’re absolutely allowed to make those jokes, but getting up in arms when people call you out on your bullshit is akin to yelling “but it’s a prank bro!” When somebody you accosted for a YouTube video fights back.",
"No, not everything. This however seems to be since what they are discussing is totally relevant to the biggest controversy in comedy right now.",
"Omg criticism isn’t censorship get off",
"i'm so sick of walking on eggshells around these fuckin' children with terminal cancer. they're always getting so many privileges and everyone goes out of their way to make them happy. if that isn't true Power, i don't know what is. follow the money, sheeple.",
"That's probably for the best, honestly.",
"Yeah, damn cancer kids.\n\nThinking no one should be allowed to make fun of them or possibly incite hatred against their very existence.",
"That wasn't comedy lmao, that was a statement of fact. The whole \"orange man bad\" meme was a lame attempt by the Right (and/or the dirtbag Left) to use irony/sarcasm to deflect from the fact that he was in fact very bad.",
"It’s Christian America. Sex is evil. Violence is ok",
"You're all dipshits that have never been slapped... You haven't a clue what you're talking about. It's unreal how dumb you people are...\n\nEdit: \"insecure\" about something, so need to downvote? Sounds familiar.",
"So what exactly did Joe Rogan do wrong?",
"Of course! Chapelle doesn’t even remotely compares to the type of comedian Carlin is referring to in this video.",
"I got my studded bedazzled jacket, OOOH!",
"Carlin is not even that fucking funny. I mean, he's got some good bits but Reddit fucking prostrates themselves for him whenever his clips come up and I just don't get it. There's a lot of places I can watch an old man yell at the clouds for 60 minutes.",
"I feel like the fact that you're literally saying \"slippery slope\" in your comment should be a red flag that you might be committing the slippery slope fallacy here. Because you are.\n\n\"Punching down\" refers to power dynamics, not inherent traits. Nobody's saying that anyone's better or worse than anyone else. We're just acknowledging that people with privilege can use that privilege as a weapon against people who are less privileged than them.",
"I have a hard time seeing how someone with a platform that reaches millions is censored, exactly.",
"Dave Chapelle is one of the greatest and most talented comics of all time. Of course a random internet nobody will call him stupid.",
"In this day and age pointing out someone doing something wrong is worse than doing something wrong ( especially if the person you are pointing out is a protected class )",
"Source: I have zero verbal comprehension abilities despite the very clear message in this video",
"I think people are hypocrites.\n\nHere's a video of Carlin going-off on feminists: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3gMELlrO3E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3gMELlrO3E)\n\nHonestly, it sounds like a bit that Andrew Dice Clay would write.",
"Criticism also ought not be a hobby.",
"Ahh Reddit, the place where people abuse a military veteran who risked his life stopping an armed person attacking people in the USA , because he was wearing an anti-Joe Biden T Shirt when he was receiving an award for being a literal hero",
"You're right and it's important to note that sometimes, the joke sucks. Like, if it's good joke, you probably wouldn't be offended, even if it's a really fucking offensive joke. But even the best actors have bad movies occasionally. If a comedian has a joke and it doesn't land well, ya can't fucking cancel them or shit is going to get real boring, real fast. If it's a bad joke, it's a bad joke. Move on.",
"Am I the only one who thinks Chappelle was punching mostly sideways here? Like it is at least kind of close right to the point where making this the primary critique of the routine just doesn't really hold water? How close does it have to be for it to be OK?",
"For what it's worth, yes, he's been getting cancelled from quite a few Film Festivals, where he was promoting a documentary about racism..\n\nhttps://blacksportsonline.com/2021/10/dave-chapelle-says-transgender-community-are-getting-his-documentary-on-racism-banned-at-film-festivals/",
"I'm going to guess that you spend at least some of your time listening to people like Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, or Joe Rogan. If you are honestly under the impression that trans people aren't underdogs in todays society you need to step outside of your very insular bubble and take a look around.",
"Censors? What the fuck are you taking about?",
"I've seen a lot of Carlin's work, I know what he was about, and it wasn't censorship. Also, there's a running theme of the people who have no real backing to their arguments stooping to personal attacks and attempts to offend, you know you're on the wrong side in this, so you attempt to insult my intelligence instead of having any real argument. \n\n\nCensorship is wrong.",
"Plenty of comics don't punch at all. The whole notion that comedy is all about \"punching\" in one direction or another is stupid. But if need to punch, then punch to the side, or punch up. Pretty simple.",
"I agree Dave chappelles comments and views are problematic. But to equate one comedy special to years of serving as a platform for white nationalist propaganda is dishonest.",
"People have been fired for not towing the line with this particular agenda, it's most definitely censorship, and the compulsive lies from the people calling for it don't make that any less true.",
"They're trying to censor him, but people aren't having it any more.",
"Literally everybody who has ever lived and ever will lived is stupid. It's just a matter of identifying how they are.",
"> It’s entirely possible to make a joke about somebody without it being the same as “picking on somebody” or punching down. \n\nNot sure that's true anymore. Everything is considered punching down.",
"People are hating on Chapelle for his most recent special. You should watch it. He definitely has opinions, but he's not in the same boat as a shill like Rogan.",
"You know exactly what I'm talking about, but deny it.",
"A big one that's one people's minds since the start of the pandemic is spreading misinformation.\n\nHe's also very guilty of just agreeing with whoever is in the room when he does his \"interviews\".\n\nBasically, he doesn't make an attempt to be objective, unbiased, accurate, etc. Despite being clueless on things and sharing his misunderstandings, he has a sizeable audience. This allows him to impart the same misunderstandings and confusion that he has to a surprising number of (impressionable) people.",
"My point isn't the comedian getting up in arms, it's people getting upset and trying to stop comics from saying jokes. It's not under the guise of \"well it's a joke so if you're offended get over it\" it's more why expect anyone to do anything about it. \nI find your point of view on this very interesting so thank you for engaging.",
"Yeah I can't believe people made fun of Donald Trump, it's not like his actions impacted the entire world or anything.",
"The banks are run by children with terminal cancer. Wake up!",
"Yeah that's a big fuck-up on his part. I hope she's doin better.",
"Chappelle didn’t, is my point.",
"Serve as a platform for alt right propaganda while masquerading as “presenting interesting alternative viewpoints”.",
"Joe Rogan used to be this guy that was kind of cool for calling out Carlos Mencia for being a joke thief and debating young earth creationists to promoting Covid conspiracy bullshit and giving people like Alex Jones a platform. Meanwhile it's become clear the only thing he really gives a shit about is how much he has to pay in taxes because he's rich as shit now.",
"I’m not sure I’d even call suicide jokes “punching down.” I’ve always thought of that term to mean maliciously taunting a marginalized group/community with the intent of further demeaning their status. It’s like bullying. \n\nAs I remember it Carlin’s suicide bit isn’t really a targeted attack on depressed or suicidal people. I think it’s just shining a light on the fact that suicide is a common issue, while making a sort of cynical joke by encouraging the women to catch up to the men. It’s not a stellar bit, but I think there’s more of a nudge and a wink to that particular bit, like man, we’re some kind of fucked up, ain’t we? I don’t think the intention was to cause harm in the way that punching down (eg. degrading gay people or women or folks with developmental disabilities) is meant to cause harm.",
"It shouldn’t. But it shouldn’t be outright dismissed just because you like the guy being criticized. I like Chappelle but his latest special was weak after the first 20 minutes. It was just complaining and extremely lazy trans jokes. He made like 5 “trans women are ugly” jokes - come on how is that witty lmao",
"So do comics have to change their act when they go to other places where privilege changes? \n\nIf a white man calls me a name it has the same baring as if a black man calls me a name. Even though the white guy has privilege.",
"I think the key word is \"attempting\".",
"Unfortunate.",
"It's almost like it's ok to do whatever you want in comedy and you dont have to follow the rules that Reddit makes.",
"I have a bone to pick with this clip. I like Carlin as much as the next person, and he has a valid point about people preying on insecurities. It's a dick move for him , and dare I say punching down, to pick on Dice.\n\nDice was playing a character. You can argue that many people didn't get the satire, but every comedian knew Dice was playing a character. And then when the media and society turned on Dice, Carlin just piled on. That's not fair man.",
"Don't go to their shows, don't watch their specials. Nobody is forcing people to watch a set that triggers them.",
"Dude rose to the top of the comedy scene and is widely regarded by his peers, and was clearly much more than a fart joke teller. \n\nI don’t think everything he says is “profound” but dismissing everything he says as not profound seems a little silly",
"His specific takes on censorship involved people who were, you know, \\*literally\\* censored by media corporations and had their careers evaporate overnight. Dave Chapelle made very similar punching-down jokes just 2 years ago but Netflix gave him ANOTHER production budget to do it again. That's a big tangible difference.\n\nYou, on the other hand, have no real backing to your argument other than \"(I think) Carlin would agree with me because I like him\"",
"The conversation around Chappelle is whether or not his special should be taken off of Netflix. It is about censorship. Don't argue in bad faith.",
"\"Do not think, consume this media, thus we may pay a sliver of the profit we gain from it to the creative.\"",
"You know who has real power when you find out who you can't make fun of.\n\nGo to China and make fun of Xi JinPing.\n\nSee who has the power then.",
"Well I think that's the irony. Some folks are trying so hard to make it seem like he was or should be canceled and it's clear that most people don't agree at this point. The idea that a great comedian would be canceled for offensive jokes is in itself pretty damn funny. His next $100M special should be called cancelled and we can all have a laugh at the folks whose only sense of self worth is being loud on Twitter.",
"He's not, because Netflix made the decision not to censor him.",
"Why is almost every argument I read on Reddit a strawman.",
"Demanding a special be taken off air isn't censorship?",
"I have watched the first specials and will get to the third eventually. I have not read the arguments for why the jokes are transphobic or not.\n\nI do think that the second special included some jokes that could have been interpreted as transphobic but I gave Dave the benefit of the doubt at the time. His doubling down does concern me a bit which is why I have put off watching the special. Dave seems like a person who thinks deeply about things but who doesn't always look that them from a perspective that isn't his own.\n\nDoes that change what the specials mean to you?\n\n\\*I am watching it now, about 8 minutes in. I hope it picks up a bit.\n\n\\*At 52 minutes I have learned that everyone arguing that people aren't watching the special and are instead reading articles are repeating exactly what Dave Chappelle said, that is interesting...\n\n\\*The Daphne thing was weird. It is hard to believe he was that close with this woman and didn't know she had a daughter but also somehow knew that the daughter meant more than anything to her. He is also making the trans experience very much about himself. Overall I think aside from the offensive jokes this was one of his weaker sets. A lot older very lazy jokes, his penultimate joke was even a Lgbtqlmnop quip, like jesus Dave I thought you were better than plagiarizing my conservative aunts facebook feed. His message seems to be that minorities should work together but he didn't land it well.",
"In this thread: Reddit saying a minority group that can influence the largest companies in the world have no power.",
"\" I truly don't understand the preaching of hate and I never will \"\n\nThen why are you talking about it?",
">So do comics have to change their act when they go to other places where privilege changes?\n\n...no, your comedy shouldn't change. You should always assume that your audience is diverse, and you should never be an asshole just because you don't think any under-privileged people are watching.\n\n>If a white man calls me a name it has the same baring as if a black man calls me a name. Even though the white guy has privilege.\n\nThat's not true at all lmao. We all know that there are different rules for certain words. Just as an example, white people cannot call Black people the n-word. Rightfully so.",
"Its great to make fun of Trump but I'd consider making fun of him or most politicians in general some of the lowest fruit available. Its like shooting fish in a barrel.",
"Based on the logic of punching up, that means by today's standards the targets should be old rich white dudes and young to middle aged white women, no?",
"That's kinda how I feel about Carlin. He made enough good points that I always watch clips of him when they show up. He also made enough questionable or outright bad points that I don't usually recommend him to others.\n\nGenerally, I would consider myself a Carlin fan but kind of a cautious and hesitant one.\n\nI can imagine the bit so I think video of it exists but I'm not going to go seek it out. I want to believe that bit about telling people to kill themselves was reverse psychology. In some cases I think it can work too. If you tell people about suicidal thoughts and they push back and tell you not to, there can be a weird effect where some people feel invalidated and just push on it more. By being like, \"okay, I get it. Maybe just take the plunge?\" Then some people will move past the fixation and think about the conclusion and realize they don't want suicide. That what they want is for the suffering to end and suicide is just the nuclear option.\n\nAnyway, I'm in no way defending that bit. It's not the job of a comedian to dispense mental health advice. So even if my overly optimistic analysis were correct (which I doubt it is), he still crossed a line into stupid comedian shit.\n\nNo one is perfect. We can choose to celebrate his good insights, while I guess just making note of the problematic things he said.",
"Talk shit about white people, then talk shit about trans people. See which group can destroy you and which just has to take it. \n\nChappelle talks shit about white people all the time. Even if we were offended, there isn’t shit we could do about it but deal with it. But he says some very mild things about trans and now he’s on the back foot. \n\nThat’s not punching down, it’s punching up. Like me slapping Mike Tyson, he’s messing with a people who can wreck his shit.",
"That’s the point. He obviously can. He has made transphobic jokes before with zero repercussions. I’ve heard that boring quote a million times. Facing backlash does not mean you don’t have power. That’s a stupid reductionistic way to use that phrase. Just say you’re homophobic.",
"but then he says \"i'm dumb ape and i don't know what I'm talking about\" so that makes it ok",
"and oddly enough...very first time I've seen it. It's always new to someone, so roll with it",
"Who was the right president in your opinion?",
"I see you only know of Joe Rogan by reading CNN headlines…",
"> can only be funny so many times.\n\ndepends on how clever a comedian they are. The point is, people in power can take it, and sometimes need some humbling",
"So comedians can only make fun of certain people. And who exactly those people are is subjective to each individual person.\n\nWhat could be problematic and divisive about that (sarcasm).",
"I watched it. He's a transphobic piece of shit, just like Rogan.",
"I'm not saying they're literally morally identical. That's not what \"birds of a feather\" means. They're different varieties of garbage.",
"You can think that there are different rules for words all you want mate, never mentioned that at all, I just view people as equals and if you don't think the same that's on you.\n\nI wouldn't be an asshole because that's being an asshole, but if you're at a comedy show, you expect comedy, if you're witnessing something you're offended by, leave and complain, but don't ever expect anything to be done about it.",
"> Do you think trans people in general deserve to be criticized, morally speaking?\n\nAbso-fucking-lutely. The trans community is probably one of the most inwardly hostile special interest groups in contemporary history. They operate on a series of contradictory yet dogmatic tenets and will expel/harass/shame any member that contravenes them, or commits a simple faux pas to the wrong person. They beg the world for empathy, for acceptance and then in the same breath condemn their own with venom and spite that would make the most virulent transphobe gasp.\n\nSomebody like Dave isn't going to lose any sleep over a bunch of trans people sending him death threats. They're not his people. A trans comedian, on the other hand, would probably not take well to getting a flurry of hate from their own people.",
"Maybe he is. He's also a fucking moron. These things aren't mutually exclusive.",
"Oh my goodness, you're so tough!",
"In literally every other circumstance, people who punch down are called bullies. I don’t understand why it’s so hard to not be a shit human being.",
"Nobody's above reproach. There are no sacred cows in comedy.",
"I think punching down is funny sometimes.",
"Never thought I'd see the day in America when people accuse a black man of \"punching down\" and yet here we are.",
"Well then you’re a piece of shit 🤷",
"You know false information is wrong, but having a different viewpoint isn't.",
"I view people as equals too. At no point did I suggest otherwise. \n\nYou're not saying anything coherent right now. Just word salad.",
"Cool, so don't try to police words.",
"So we should just censor anyone who isn't rediculously famous?",
"The decisions being made are 100% capitalistic decisions. They have nothing to do with ANY company wanting to push an agenda, or for any big corp being biased vs any viewpoint.\n\nThese decisions are ONLY made based on money. If a company believes that they stand to lose money due to someones comments, that person is fired. If they believe they won't (Dave Chappelle) then they do not fire that person.\n\nIf people want this \"Agenda\" or \"Politically Correct bullshit\" to stop, then they need to work on making whatever viewpoint they hold worth more money than the viewpoints they do not like. \n\nIf they can't do that, they lose. Sorry, those are the rules currently due to the capitalistic market. Money trumps all.\n\nComplaining about political correctness on the internet will not do enough to change someones worth in the corporations eyes. Gotta move more units than the other guy, or you aint worth shit.",
"Then something went over your head.",
"Nope",
"Because punching down is a meme and inherently implies some groups are higher and lower than others.\n\nAlso it’s self contradictory. If we cannot make jokes about certain groups to any degree, how can they be considered “down” if they’re protected from jokes and critical social commentary.",
"Says the guy desperately trying to stop people from saying mean words about Dave Chapelle, lmao",
"Yeah that’s why he literally said “nobody thinks joking about him is a punch down”. Did he edit his comment, or did the whole swarm of you immediately stop reading after “Trump”?",
"Yikes, mask is fully off",
"I thought it was about ethics in game journalism?",
"Not disagreeing with you, but I think it's fair to say all sides of the mainstream media are targeting *some* demographic and preying on their insecurities.",
"How much of it did you watch?",
"People are free to do what they want, right? Isn't that what you want? Freedom of speech, freedom of entertainment? That means that if you, or me, or some dogshit comedian releases some absolute garbage, me you and any other schmuck is free to watch it and share our opinion of it with anybody and everybody else we want. That's freedom. \n\nDespite what a lot of comedians like to say when they play the victim, freedom doesn't mean nobody can criticize you. Freedom doesn't mean you can say whatever you want whenever you want and get zero repercussions. So whenever I hear another washed up comedian whine about the myth of cancel culture in yet-another-shitty-special, all I'm really hearing is \"waaaahhhh I can't wait for my dipshit fans to come to my defense when I get called out for being a hack.\"",
"Being \"cancelled\" isn't the same as suffering the consequences of your words.\n\nThese groups have as much right to not want to show his documentary after what he said as he has to say what he did. That's not being cancelled. That's people taking your at your word. This is his work. it's what he does for *millions* of dollars. So when he says that he's \"team terf\", I believe him. Apparently so do other people.\n\nIt just so happens that some of those people who believe him don't want to be associated with \"team terf\" by being associated with him and choose not to show that documentary. That's not being cancelled that's exercising one's right to free association.\n\nYou can't cry \"free speech\" and then cry when other people criticize you for what you said.",
"The whole thing. He's a really shitty person.",
"Ah yes, any time someone on Reddit attacks \"inbred southerners\" or the like, we have a team on standby to seek them out and inflict pain on them and take their property.",
"No, I just don't think you can punch down on the president of the US. You can make fun of him in an unfunny way, but that's mostly because the funniest way to make fun of him was just to read the words he said out loud.",
"Where?",
"Most comedians are white men. Your argument makes no sense.",
"Excellent rebuttal.",
"[https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qhvfl1/comment/hifpkb8/?utm\\_source=share&utm\\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qhvfl1/comment/hifpkb8/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)",
"That's not me...",
"What's to understand. It's been human behavior since forever. First, we're probably hardwired for tribalism, which gets triggered when we're threatened, and even the \"privileged\" are a disabled child or cancer diagnosis away from ruin. So everyone's threatened, and there's no unifying message coming from any direction. It's cultural and political war and everyone is on instinct looking out for themselves.\n\nIf you study totalitarian regimes, you see they follow the same playbook, and no wonder. The first thing they do is suppress ethnic and lifestyle minorities and move people around in an attempt to homogenize their populations to get everyone in the same tribe, susceptible to the same propaganda, and therefore pointed in the same direction. \n\nThe U.S. had a different idea, and because of favorable circumstances, it looked like the grand experiment was going to work out. Now it looks like it won't.",
">nobody thinks joking about him was a punch down.\n\nThat's because he was the President of the United States you fucking dunce lmao.",
"He knew what he was doing and he got what he wanted. He's only bitching about it because it's impacting his income",
"What part of somebody receiving thousands of messages telling them to fuck off and die do you find morally irreproachable?",
"Punching down isn't just about the target being marginalized.\n\nIt's mostly about knowing that what you say will deeply hurt someone who is already in a difficult or less able position, then saying it anyways.\n\nDeprecating humor only really works in reference to a position of greater appreciation, authority, or ego. You can make jokes about someone who, in complete confidence, does something wildly stupid.\n\nA truly offensive joke isn't just shock, its very substance comes from a place of malice or ignorance.\n\nThat's why Chappelle's special is offensive. Not just because he's making deprecating jokes. It's because his jokes are intentionally malicious. He had to seek out what a TERF was, and after doing his due diligence he still \"joked\" that he was \"Team TERF\". Would he not be upset if someone told him that they were \"Team Klan\"?\n\nThey're also jokes targeted at people who are, compared to him specifically, entirely disadvantaged. Chappelle is a millionaire. He's not some dude in a bar downtown struggling to make end's meet with some comedy act he's desperately hoping will pay for his rent. Regardless of what he went through to get where he is today, the position he is in is not the position he started in.\n\nHe is incredibly wealthy, with immense support from all walks of life, and with very little to want for. He doesn't struggle. He's not fighting just to get by. He's not fighting for his life, or right to simply exist. He's getting paid millions of dollars to make deprecating jokes about people who have it a hell of a lot worse than he does.\n\nEdit: I forgot to address what caused me to post in the first place. Carlin's bit on suicide wasn't from a place of malcontent, but rather from a position of authority with ignorance to what harm his own words could cause as a person of influence. That's still punching down, even if he didn't do it intentionally. It's still a punch, and it's still targeted at someone who was worse off than him.",
"Sorry, so you're saying that every trans person participated in that?",
"This is clearly a shot at Dave Chapelle. \n\nWell, the thing is, when the trans movement has made so much progress that they believe they get to decide who gets to be employed where and who is allowed entry into the public sphere, you can't call them underdogs anymore. When only certain coded language is allowed, somebody has power that can be abused. Somewhere along the way, Juno became the bully.",
"I guess I'll have to find some way to go on living.",
"\"My side is always correct, the other side is immature and stupid\"",
"\"I can make as many jokes and generalizations as I want about you, but God help you if you dare to utter a single negative word about me.\"\n\nSounds pretty fair tbh.",
"Oh cool yeah that’s what I said.",
"Ok, well you're obviously taking that person's side.\n\nAnd it's very clear that all of your comments in this thread amount to you whining that people are criticizing Chapelle (or other unnamed comedians). Because apparently you hate free speech.",
"Serious question: What identity *isn't* consistently used as a punchline?",
"No. Taking a special off air is censorship. If you’re being a dick and I say “shut up” I’m not censoring you. If I duct tape your mouth, that’s censorship.",
"I uhhh, is english your first language?",
"Yes, \"something went over your head\" was a devastating takedown that warranted a really sophisticated and detailed rebuttal. I spared no expense.",
"The argument about Chapelle would be about censorship if he was censored or in danger of it. If his supporters said “yeah what he said was transphobic as fuck but it’s free speech”, sure. But they argue that what he said isn’t deserving of criticism in the first place",
"Is there a reason he wasn’t beside that?",
"Can we all collectively stop conflating \"criticize\" and \"protest the existence of\"? They're not the same.\n\nI thought Tom Segura's new special was pretty boring, but I'm not about to say that special's existence made it less safe for the people of Louisiana (despite LA having one of the highest poverty rates in the US).\n\nIf it were just people calling it lazy or unfunny, no one would care.",
"He was a bad president, but bashing one person over and over again just isn't funny. If it wasn't considered comedy then why did Late Night TV shows go on and on about it?",
"Exactly my point. It's just low hanging fruit. It's too easy and it's not clever or impressive.",
"Eddie Murphy did the same thing. He’s considered among the best comics of all time.",
"I think this video just goes to prove that those insecurities aren't new, and there have always been people out there willing to exploit them.",
"Nothing to see here folks keep scrolling through",
">Being \"cancelled\" isn't the same as suffering the consequences of your words.\n\nDistinction without a difference.\n\nBeing cancelled means being excluded, however that manifests.",
"Yes!",
"Incorrect analysis.\n\nMy country has no free speech, USA does, my dream is to speak freely without fear, and when I see people start to police words it scares me.(I really want to be clear words that are bullying or mean for the sake of mean are wrong) I understand your point of view is different but this is mine and it's the hill I will die on.",
"Meanwhile Norm Macdonald. He doesn't even own a doghouse.\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX\\_gUQeZcB8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX_gUQeZcB8)",
"You're not missing anything",
"While I do agree with the spirit of your point, I can't say that poking at Trump for 4 years constitutes as clever comedy. How many iterations of \"Trump Bad\" can people do?\n\nAs I said, it got to a point where it was too easy, and thus became low hanging fruit. As another user said, it's like \"shooting fish in a barrel.\" It just isn't impressive.",
"You really don't understand what \"punching down\" means, do you?\n\nYou weren't specifically talking about late night TV before. Obviously late-night TV makes lame jokes about the current President. That's been true since Late Night TV became a thing. If your point is that Late Night TV is bad, then I agree with you.",
"His new documentary was dropped by many film festivals, that’s the censorship or ‘cancelled’ he’s talking about",
"Why does Larry King sit so close to people?",
"Did you understand what Dave was saying when he was talking about trans people and the trans comedian he had open for him multiple times? The trans comedian that was bullied into suicide for merely standing up for Dave? The trans comedian that Dave started a college fund for her daughter after she took her own life?",
"If you want people to speak freely without fear, why are you so opposed to people speaking out against Dave Chapelle?\n\nPeople are using their freedom of speech to criticize him. If you love freedom of speech so much, I don't know why you're opposed to this.",
"He has a comedy special, not a platform. Netflix is the platform. So yeah, despite a loud movement to de-platform him, his latest show is still on Netflix, but apparently he can't get a distributor for his documentary and has been dis-invited to film festivals. \n\nBy all accounts, *The Closer* has been a huge hit in terms of number of streams, so the way this would regularly work is that Chappelle should have people knocking at his door, offering him opportunities. Next time he has a special, he should have no problem getting someone to broadcast it. We'll see.\n\nDe-platforming is a loud minority putting PR pressure on a corporation to pull material or fire someone even in the face of their popularity among the general population. It is sometimes justified, but is essentially a authoritarian response--by a corporation, not the government--rather than a democratized response. A democratized response would be the artist loses his audience.",
"So you’re saying the worst things Joe Rogan has ever done was have Alex Jones on his show and talk to him. And has also talked about being rich and having to pay taxes.\n\nWhat a horrible monster.",
"Yeah, the difference between this bit and Dice’s character is that he’s self aware in this bit. Dice’s character (which is what he does, play a character), is never self aware of how he’s perceived. Here Carlin says ‘while I’m being a complete pig’ to highlight the context of this joke. It’s not that feminists are necessarily overly sensitive it’s that people will say some fucked up\nShit to women and be surprised that they’re upset.\n\n\nTo me the analysis that this is Carlin ‘giving it to feminists’ is just someone not really getting the joke. It reminds me of when Chappell said he was taking a break from comedy because he was getting the wrong kind of laugh from his jokes, which was basically people yelling at him to constantly do his Clayton Bigsby character. Most people would have watched the Clayton Bigsby bits and got that he was making fun of racists but certain dumb fuck racists like it for different reasons that I’d rather not explain in too much detail.",
"Even in this clip of Carlin criticizing Andrew Dice Clay, he still says that he should be allowed to say what he wants. From that I think we can conclude that he likely wouldn't be on either \"side\" of this debate. He would be above the whole thing, taking the position that perhaps Chapelle should find better targets for his comedy while also advocating for his right to perform as he pleases. \n\n\n>His specific takes on censorship involved people who were, you know, \\*literally\\* censored by media corporations and had their careers evaporate overnight.\n\nThere are \\*literally\\* people who are clamouring for this to happen. The fact that Chapelle hasn't been outright \"cancelled\" yet (i.e., his controversial specials are still widely available to the public) doesn't disprove that \"cancel culture\" exists. It just means that the people who want him cancelled haven't succeeded yet. It's like saying that a country shouldn't worry about enemy troops landing on their beaches until after they've already seized the capital. Even though these people are in the minority and are unlikely to force Netflix to do anything about it, doesn't mean we shouldn't oppose what they are trying to do.",
"A stutter is any inconsistent repetition of sounds. Saying \"um\" is most definitely a stutter. An extreme stutter may use words like [um, uh, and well](https://www.stutteringhelp.org/differential-diagnosis) as fillers.\n\nI honestly didn't watch a lot of Donald Trump speeches or rallies or anything like that. Maybe he does stutter and I should have noticed. [But Obama most definitely had a stutter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyW9e5QdWxk).\n\nThe fact that I'm picking on the \"wrong powerful person\" is just further evidence to my point. People who say you should pick on powerful people are hypocrites who are trying to direct you to make fun of specific people.",
"This is clearly from long before Dave Chappelle did anything controversial. . Larry King has brown hair lmao",
"Way to prove your insecurities lol",
"That's why I said that.",
"Posting this now is taking a shot at Dave Chapelle........................................................................................................................................",
"What's wrong with Jordan Peterson?",
"No, but I'm saying that the trans people who speak out against it receive similar torrents of hate and spite.",
"It's just about who can bully and who's allowed to bully. There are no people or topics who can't be joked about.",
"And those comics only make fart jokes and puns, which are among the lowest level of comedy",
"So why did you say earlier that trans people in general deserve to be criticized? Can you explain that for me?",
"A worldwide superstar comedian and producer who’s won countless awards including the prestigious Mark Twain Award is a moron? But the random nobody on Reddit who’s done nothing in their life is the smart one. Got it.",
"Yes but no one said Trump jokes were punching down",
"Yes, he is a moron. Not sure why you think his ability to write jokes somehow rebuts the fact that he is a moron.\n\nAlso pretty pathetic how much of a stan you are. Get a life.",
"Toeing",
"I suspect that's because \"you're insecure, let me sell you blame towards someone else\" has probably become a hotter selling method than using sex in modern America. On both sides.\n\nAnd don't come on here being like \"yeah but the other side *really is* ruining everything\" unless you want me to point at you as say \"see?\" Because the truth or untruth of the media is not relevant to my point.",
"Making jokes about cancer kids is a far cry from inciting hatred against their very existence.\n\nStop exaggerating.",
"Actually, yep. It did, you just lack the mental aptitude to process it.",
"No they don't lmao. Clearly you've got very parochial tastes. \n\nBut, that form of comedy is still miles higher than being a fucking bigoted prick.",
"People in power can take it, and the people being punched down to can't? Rich people, powerful people, they've never had mental issues? Never committed suicide? Never went crazy because of public attacks? \n\nAnd all minorites are fragile and can't take jokes? Is that what idea you're projecting here?",
"Can't not upvote carlin tho. That n word drop took some ballllls. I sure as shit don't have the confidence to say that as a white guy.",
"\\>From that I think we can conclude that he likely wouldn't be on either \"side\" of this debate.\n\nThat's my position as well. If you look up you can see that my response is directed at someone who says Carlin would have \"been on Dave's side\" when he clearly holds conflicting views AND when his most vocal comments don't apply directly to the situation at hand.\n\nAnd while I don't think your argument is necessarily a slippery-slope one, it has a similar smell to it: \"we have to fight X preventatively BEFORE ***they*** win\".",
"Oh my! You sound really smart",
"Bullying is bullying. Joking about somebody or something is not always bullying.",
"Yeah, that was stupid, so I ninja'd it out. The rest stands. Nobody said that.",
"Yup.",
"It's not that trans people have a ton of power, it's that many people recognize trans people already deal with a lot and shitty to go after them. It's like going after cancer patients and getting shit on and then saying they must be the most powerful cause you can't be offensive toward them.",
"If you can get someone fired from their job and ostracized from society, that’s power.",
"The real comedy in this thread is that you've got another comment in here complaining about strawman arguments as you post a strawman argument.",
"Was he pointing out how using a trans person as a prop in his previous special was harmful to that person? Or was he making a bigoted generalization about the trans community?",
"To all the people defending “punching down”: how much bravery does that take compared to actually taking on the powerful?",
"Every movie studio in reaction has decided not to host his unreleased film except Netflix.",
"I think you mean as a honkey, whitey, blue eyed devil.",
"Do you Americans have a chart or something on the social hierarchy of being offended?",
"How can u punch down on someone who has more power than u ?",
"Criticism is censorship? So you really don't know what censorship is then?",
"It's an issue that's pervasive to the community. To be clear, **everybody** deserves to be criticized.",
"It's a double edged sword, except one side is sharp and the other is dull.\n\nThe right is way worse.",
"No I'm not.. I'm just full of what actual people with intelligence go through .. I grew up 2nd generation Sicilian and have an extended family that can't believe how pathetic you clowns are. If I acted like you, my dad would've slapped the shit out of me. I have to sit here with my other cousins and sisters and aunts and uncles and watch you dumbshits on TV making fools of yourselves because you never had anyone to tell you \"no, that's a bad idea...\". That's what I mean by you need to be slapped, smart guy.",
"Isn’t intelligence relative?",
"Times have definitely changed.",
"He has no idea, only that certain people told him that JP is a bad man and you're not allowed to listen to him.",
"Wow, your dad is tough too? Crazy.",
">everybody deserves to be criticized..\n\nNo they don’t lmao. That’s moronic. Trans people don’t deserve criticism just because they’re trans. \n\nThat’s a nice bigoted generalization though. Love the transphobia.",
"What misinformation has he spread? \n\nBeing agreeable isn’t the worst quality in the world, like Howard Stern he lets his guess talk and doesn’t lecture them.\n\nNo idea what your last paragraph even means.",
"I don’t have a responsibility to buy a ticket. If those lost sales make the project unprofitable, then that’s not exclusion, that’s the free market.\n\nI don’t have a responsibility to work on something I don’t want to be associated with. If that makes costs rise, or if the project can’t find workers to get the job done, that’s not exclusion, that’s the free market.\n\nI don’t have a responsibility to let people use my property. If a project can’t find a platform that wants to be associated with transphobia, that’s not exclusion, that’s the free market.",
"“Getting canceled” isn’t the point. It’s the mindset that he should be",
"My thoughts exactly. They immediately deleted their comment when asked to provide any kind of reasoning. Gotta love it.",
"Libertarian when it's convenient.",
"Jokes are funny. Dave was soapboxing though. To pretend like its just \"jokes\" is to ignore the point he was making.",
"I'm guessing this was posted in regards to Chapelles newest special. Only those who truly didn't listen to what he said and couldn't see those tears in his eyes are the ones who truly don't understand what he was saying and the message he was trying to convey.\n\nI am aware this is Carlins old words(the big electron rest his soul). The problem here is that the same sentiment does not apply. Chapelle is what's counted as a minority by demographics and is followed by a variety of people throughout the world. Comedy has evolved and is way more accessible than it was back then.",
"Wow that is so true today. We miss you George Carlin we miss you.",
"I watched this yesterday and didn't quite understand it as well as I did when watching it again today with OP's title. Thanks for having the better title.",
"I thought Clayton Bigsby was adorable. There's a bit of Clayton in all of us. He's so ridiculous it can't be a stereotype I thought",
"Wonder if he would feel the same about Dave Chapelle?",
"Having a voice doesn't mean you are omnipotent. Trans people deal with serious shit because not all people are their allies. I'm not on Camp David but I wouldn't compare it to Auchwitz either.",
"Netflix doesn't have the power to censor. There is a difference between not helping someone spread their message and censoring. These idiots that cry censorship at private businesses do not understand what censorship is. All of them are free to say whatever they want it isn't YouTube or Netflix's responsibility to give them a platform.",
"When an introvert psychoanalyzes an extrovert...",
"What Chapelle is doing is just hack content at this point. Its easy and pays well. Say controversial shit then moan about woke cancel culture and get cheered by the mob that tunes in to hate wokeness 365 days a year. It's boring and played out but its popular because these people are addicted to raging against wokeness and they need that dopamine rush.",
">I truly don't understand the preaching of hate \n\nYeah, that's only a problem with the bigots on the right-wing. They're all neo-Nazis who should eradicated.",
"The difference is he is not picking on those groups - he is picking on the oversensitivity towards the words as being offensive in and of themselves. It's not the words that are offensive - it's the malicious intent behind those words which is the problem. Very different, and the fact that people don't get the distinction proves his point.\n\nI don't expect this to change anyone's view on that bit, though, since he comes right out and says this as part of it.",
"Just conveniently ignoring the whole COVID conspiracy/misinformation stuff eh?",
"Carlin would have also pointed this exact same thing out. Chapelle isn't being censored, he's got one of the largest contracts on the largest video platform.",
"This is a false equivalency. Only one \"side\" preaches hate and bigotry. \n\nThe other side wants like, parental leave and collective drug bargaining. You know. Helpful shit.",
"He has a massive contract with Netflix. He can't get his documentary into film festivals, but could easily still get it a wide release. He's complaining about losing an opportunity to win awards, not money and not an inability to get his work seen.\n\nThat's not censorship.",
"$20 million dollars. \n\nScreening his documentary across the country from Cali to NY. \n\nIn the news everyday with people showing him support.\n\n\"canceled\" \n\n😂😂😂😂",
"It does seem like that the people that take issue with Dave's special aren't arguing that the ideas are wrong and here's why.\n\nThey are advocating him saying it is wrong and that it should be removed from netflix.\n\nWhich is basically advocating censorship, even if it's not actually censored (since they don't currently have the power to do so).",
"Apparently. What are some examples of these hilarious comedians that never make fun of anybody?\n\nAlso, you finding a joke offensive has little to do with whether other people (including members of the groups being made fun of) can find it funny.",
"Yeah but this was filmed, when, 1985? 1990? Andrew Dice Clay being a topic of conversation makes me think it was about that time. \n\nGot to say, times were different. It is astonishing to me how far we have come, for example, on gay rights. It’s absolutely astonishing. Gay marriage seemed to go from a pipe dream to the law of the land practically overnight. I’m sure a lot of people in the trenches feel differently about that but that’s how it felt to me. \n\nWhile not as radically different, women were definitely still underdogs at that time for sure. I think the balance of power has shifted pretty dramatically there too though. \n\nAnyway to me that video plays very differently now than it would have to me in 1985.",
"Take a look at what you are saying. It sounds like everything someone says, according to you, has to go by whether their identity allows it. \n\nBunch of bull, Id say. It's one thing to debate if something being said is bigoted. But it's insane to act like someone's identity is what decides if what they say is bigotry.",
"Oh shush. How is that kind of talk going to help the billionaires? Wont you just for once think of what's good for them?",
"Cause that gets the updoots.",
"Trans people are underdogs in my book as long as they can't take a shit in the right bathroom or wear what clothes they want to wear at school. Majority of the worlds opinion might favor HKers but that doesn't mean China is an underdog as they beat and oppress the shit out of them.",
"Fuck man, guess those disabled children run society, huh?",
"Not to mention getting Dave off what are considered \"woke\" platforms shouldn't be considered Trans people having power over someone else, it should just be considered proper content moderation for those spaces. I'm sure I wouldn't get platformed by Tucker Carlson to talk about my socialist gay agenda.",
"What the fuck are you talking about. We can't argue against a point you aren't making.",
"People were protesting for him to be. That's what this group stands for.\nI'm not going to reply to all of these comments, I'm not going to reply to any more of them, your group just keeps on chanting the same lines without any thought to the point I'm not sure any of you are actually real people. \n\nCensorship is wrong, and what this group is asking for, and has been asking for over the last few years is most certainly censorship, even if you continue to try and warp language to meet your agendas.",
"You clearly don't know anything about Italian culture, dumbshit.\n\nWatch any old Italian movie and you'll see parents beating their kids to straighten them out.",
"I see what your saying but I don’t think you can make the judgement that Chapelle didn’t know her well enough to make that assumption",
"Meh. Chapelle thinks being a black man in America is worse than any other minority, so he dismisses the struggles of lgbtq. He thinks he isn’t “punching down” because he doesn’t think any struggle is worse than his. He’s wrong",
"Idk about always, but pretty much this unironically. This seems pretty inarguable after 2020 lol.",
"Your allowed to like whoever you want, and I'm allowed to criticize anyone I want. Ngl Dave's material is good, but hearing him shit on the trans community for an hour straight just makes my blood boil.",
"Talking to someone on the right. How dare he.",
"I assume this is in reference to Chapelle. The trans movement is literally at the top of the intersectional hierarchy right now, don't fucking tell me that telling jokes about them is punching down. You want to be treated equal, learn to take a fucking joke. All these morons did is prove Dave Chapelle right.",
"You must be real fun at parties. That is assuming you’d ever be invited to one.",
"So what you are saying is that this is exactly like the time Dave was joking with the blind person and someone in the audience got offended on his behalf.",
"Still better than Z shitting themselves being overly offended at literally anything a comedian says. At least cum cleans up easier.",
"So instead of talking about it, let's just downvote him. /s",
"I've not had a chance to see the new routine, but as a gay guy with privilege, I'm almost positive Carlin would have loved the commentary on the alphabet car ride.\n\n1. It illustrates how progress can be made.\n2. It's a reminder that groups have to depend on each other for that progress.\n3. As difficult as it is to dismantle the master's house with his own tools, the alphabet car has been successful where others have failed.",
"I'm not sure I've that joke, but did Dave say that blind people are the rulers of society because if not I'm not sure the relevance. I think the most offended people here are the ones who don't like that some people don't like his jokes.",
">I thought Tom Segura's new special was pretty boring, but I'm not about to say that special's existence made it less safe for the people of Louisiana (despite LA having one of the highest poverty rates in the US).\n\nSure, but if many people thought it would, they have the right to criticize platforms that would host and pay for it.",
"Wait, reddit hates joe rogan now? I thought he was still well received for being nuetral and thought-provoking. White nationalist? Really? I musta missed that one...",
"If you think Chapelle “just got” serious with his comedy, you’ve never really paid attention to him and his earlier work. \n\nHe really hasn’t changed much at all. Maybe you did. Society definitely did.",
"I have yet to find someone (usually in the right) who can fight back against this argument. It's so insanely obvious, but they cannot keep their worldview and believe this.",
"Some people in the 1970s watched All in the Family week after week, all the while never realizing that the show was making fun of people like Archie Bunker, albeit while making him somewhat likeable and showing he occasionally had the capacity for change. As recently as a few months ago I have spoken to a person who thought Archie spoke the \"truth\" and that All in the Family couldn't be on TV today because network television wouldn't allow a sitcom character who tells the \"truth\" like Archie.",
"Shit man, I can't even sing my favorite Busta Ryhmes songs, by myself, in my car, without looking over my shoulder.",
"He wasn’t going off on the construct of feminism. In fact, he was very much a feminist. \n\nHe was going after overly sensitive twats like you, mostly. The fact that you took his comedy as anti-feminist and got butthurt over it makes it is SOOO much funnier all these years later.\n\nBasically proving his point. You basically are the joke.",
"Isn't it a comedians job to point out everyday ironies and make us think about them? I thought his point of a man being able to abandon a child should be respected the same as a woman getting an abortion was spot fuckin on.",
"Please be specific",
"Sure. And that doesn’t require you to be transphobic. Nor does it require you to make a braindead false equivalence about abortion and child abandonment.",
">Libertarian when it's convenient.\n\nLol you see this is projection, right? If you say something I don't like, you cannot make me show your work. There is no Libertarian based defense you can offer here for Dave.",
"Alex Jones is currently in that, \"I'm not saying you should kill them, cause that's what the globalists want, but you have to defend yourself and your families cause they want to take your guns, they want to brainwash your kids, they want to break up your family and install a world government and I'm not saying to kill them, but be prepared cause the day is coming,\" stage. In fact, he's been doing that shit for years and then tries to deny he had anything to do with crazy shitheads showing up at a pizza place looking for pedophiles in the basement they don't have. Anyone with any connection to Alex Jones after Pizzagate that didn't try to distance themselves can go fry in hell. Fuck Joe Rogan.",
"Chappelle says TERFs \"look at trans women the way we Blacks might look at Blackface\" in his latest special.\n\nRight after he had said he was “team TERF”",
"How is that false equivalence. Good sex is about as mutual as humanity gets, christ. Two consenting people dealing with the ramifications of the biological building block of life. What's your argument?",
"I don't get it. Should I be offended?",
"i think what happened here was i said something about the trans community that deserved criticism(something that wasn't about them being trans) and you immediately saw red and started presuming my intentions. that's kind of like what they did with chappelle.\n\nsome people straight up don't have a sense of humor, and that's alright, but i think people like that should not be making any judicious claims about comedy",
"Watching you dance around directly answering these questions has been a real treat, thank you.",
">People are so fucking judgemental about why people laugh.\n\nLol he's literally just asking a question.",
"Ahead of his time.",
"Babies do no grow inside men’s bodies. This isn’t complicated.",
"That could definitely be argued",
"Gotta make with the head",
"You are literally the fragile white male that Carlin is mocking for being threatened by a minority group.",
">Jack and Jill went up the hill Both with a buck and a quarter, Jill came down with $2.50\n\nIt's a joke about a guy paying for sex. Not sure where you got the going down part...",
"Exactly. Even Dave’s biggest critics aren’t saying: “don’t say that”\n\nThey’re saying “why are you saying that?” Or just stating that a lot of the bits in that special aren’t funny.",
"Difference is he was wrong in that clip.\n\nTake the n-word for example, it’s not just a word, it’s a word whose sole historic context was to dehumanize black people.\n\nBut he was right in that context does matter in who is saying the word, for example when he called Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy the n-word, it wasn’t offensive because we know Carlin isn’t a racist and wasn’t using it in that way.\n\nBut it still wasn’t right to say it, calling them a word that was meant to dehumanize a whole race of people and defining them as that word, is damaging in of itself. \n\nBut again, context matters as we know Carlin didn’t mean it like that and he didn’t seem to know the full extent of what exactly he was saying, but it still doesn’t make what he said right",
"Do you think biological males who want to live as women should be able to do so without getting a bunch of hate for it?",
"And I’ve never heard a bigger voice then the current “underdogs”.",
">Even if we were offended, there isn’t shit we could do about it but deal with it.\n\nNo, you could do the exact same thing that trans people have tried to do; criticize and impact financials. That is all this is, the free market at work.",
"No, the first two seconds are the easy part that almost everyone knows and agrees with. The rest of what George says is thoughtful and insightful.",
"You don’t need to be offended. But Dave is saying that TERFs are offended and disgusted by trans women the same way that he, as a black person, is offended/disgusted by blackface. And then he says he supports TERFs. So you can make a decision on whether you support a comedian who holds these views.",
"We must've watched different specials cuz I don't remember him \"shitting on the Trans community\"",
"Context. \nMetal gear solid 2 breaks down the whole concept towards the end of the game. Moving into the information age should be a period of growth and freedom. But without proper context the information cant be acclimated properly and we divulge into madness.",
"You can like Chapelle's work and still be critical of his opinions. You could also like Carlin's jokes while ignoring some of his social commentary, but that'd make you kind of a dillhole.",
">But it has to be applied equally. Either no one can be offended or everyone can be offended.\n\nlol literally nothing works like that, has ever worked like that, or could ever work like that. There is a reason edge comics can fall out of favor so quickly. To argue to the extreme, I don't think a white guy yelling the n-word on stage would or could be equated to say, calling white people pale. Thus, there is clearly continuity, rather than your binary \"all offended or never offended\".\n\nYou can hold to your arbitrary rules though.",
"So film festivals have to show every single movie that gets submitted? \n\nGood news for every aspiring film maker!",
"“What’s unusual is that this comedian is picking on women and gays (the underdogs)”\n\nHow can you say Chappelle is not “even remotely” close to what Carlin is talking about in this video?",
"What makes them so special? Why can we make jokes about everyone except transgender people? They shouldn't be treated like they're lesser people that need to be protected.",
"What are you talking about other than repeating Alex Jones rambling?",
"Did he say this in a comedy sketch or did he seriously say this? And yes, there is a MASSIVE difference between these two.\n\nEdit: special, not sketch",
"I haven’t seen anyone pleading for Netflix to pull it. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, and let’s say Netflix turns around and pulls it: that’s still not censorship. \n\nNo ones stopping Dave from saying anything, he can still sell his special, he can still tour that show, and say what he wants to his millions of fans. \n\nIf Netflix bleeped out sections, or edited out parts, then maybe you’d have an argument. \n\nI also have a hard time believing one of the worlds most famous entertainers has been cancelled when he’s in the news constantly and has a loud strong base of fans and supporters coming to his defense.",
"[Really good video on this effect that's made it's rounds here a bit ago](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P55t6eryY3g). It goes into the new generation of alt-right \"leaders\" and \"memberships.\" It's based around how young white males are radicalized online in a sneaky, purposeful, and decentralized way by preying on insecurities and also making it seem that by going against alt-right sentiment or leaving communities that are being radicalized you're losing something important to you.",
"You do realize value judgment decisions are made every day by platforms?\n\nNetflix doesn't publish every wackjob with a set.",
"Thank you! Equal rights.",
"I mean you're watching a video by Carlin highlighting exactly why you maybe shouldn't do that.",
"Reality check: You don’t get to decide who is and isn’t a moron in the world. That is only your opinion, of course which has zero value to anyone but you.",
"R u fucking serious. Calling trans women genitalia \"impossible pussy\" but saying \"I'm not saying it's not real pussy\" before doesn't make it not shitting on.",
"This is a powerful question. Can we have discourse on the nuances of the Chapelle situation or has the internet created a type of crowd fascism that downvotes shades of grey.",
"Yes, he said this in his latest Netflix special, amongst other things - which is causing a huge controversy (and why this Carlin clip was posted). There’s been a lot written about it and there’s been a lot of responses since the special released.",
"Is this yes to him saying it seriously, or during a joke? If it was in a joke, then it's foolish to think he genuinely feels this disgusted about transgender people.",
"You might want to watch the linked video again. Carlin is talking about *you*.",
"You're allowed to not think a joke is funny but saying that joke is shitting on the trans community is reaching so hard, I can't even process it",
"All I want is for people to stop putting the responsibility of making sure their feelings don't get hurt on the rest of the world. If you can't watch a comedian talk about certain topics on stage then don't watch comedy or at least figure out the ones that are more your speed. I don't understand how you can call cancel culture a myth when most companies these days cave under the pressure. Just because netflix told people to fuck off with the dave chappelle situation doesn't mean it's not happening.",
"You didn't listen to what the protestors were saying then. They wanted a content warning.",
"Its not one fucking joke my guy it's the fact he made a Netflix special dedicated to dunking on a demographic with record high suicide and and unemployment rates and turning around and saying trans people are \"punching down\" on his own community.",
"This kinda is the whole problem with his latest special, imo. I don't really give a shit about culture war stuff, but the entire time I was just wondering, where's the joke? The whole thing felt much more like a soapbox than a standup special. Even his last special where he went \"over the line\" a bit had punchlines and jokes. I could count the amount of actual, thought out jokes from his latest one in my head.",
"A rich black cisgender man. Two of those things a more important than the other.",
"When the joke is, \"they're lesser people, and it's funny that they are opressed and don't like it,\" it goes from being funny to being mean. I don't know how to explain the difference between making fun of and being mean to but I know it when I see it. Carlin knew it too. I don't think anything bad should happen to someone who makes jokes that are in really poor taste, but I'm damn sure not going to pay to see it.\n\nEdit: there's a whole bunch of classes of people it's in poor taste to make fun of in specific ways. The nuance of the joke makes all the difference. You want to see someone flirt with the line? Watch Carlos Mencia's stuff about disabled people.",
"\\*Looks at username\\*\n\nAh. A troll. Almost fell for it. Carry on, then.",
"i initially downvoted because I thought it was a troll. Anyway, I respond to delusional idiots way too much already. \n\nLike, people doing SHOCKED PIKACHU at people just saying whatever stupid, incorrect shit passes through their heads is silly.",
"Who is he talking about?",
"Its pretty reasonable to say there's division, and real hate being sown off that division. That doesn't mean that one shouldn't acknowledge when people start seeing their politics as the rapture.",
"And its something I disagree with. Just because he says something doesn't mean it's a universal truth. Comedy is a coping mechanism for some people, and I don't think people should be excluded just because they are in the minority. Some of the funniest jokes are the ones that are at the expense of *your* group, because they are the ones *you* can relate to the most. I don't find the TERF joke particularly funny, but not every joke is a hit.",
"Hilarious",
"And that is 100% your choice! All the power to you. The problem I have is when one person gets offended by something and tries to take it away from everyone, speaking as though they are the voice of the people.",
"How much did you watch? I've seen so many people try to \"Gotchya!\" with \"You havent even watched it!\" who... Haven't even watched it.\n\nThat said, for me, \"watch\" is a bit nebulous, as it was on the TV at a small family gathering. But I think it's pretty clearly transphobic in a... Really weird way. It felt awkward as hell, and I didnt crack a smile at it the entire time.\n\nAll in all, this isn't going to have much of an impact on Dave at all, besides maybe reinforcing his disdain for the broader LGBT community.",
"Then how'd you'd turn out such a thin-skinned little crybaby?",
"He’s saying they’re punching down because the LGBTQ+ community are mostly white, mostly men and mostly wealthy. That was the whole point of the story about the gay guy calling the cops.",
"I'm sorry lmao, you think the ability to post in minority communities online and have those posts be well received equates to real world power? You think internet clout equals privilege? That seems like a misunderstanding in how privilege and power works. A trans person person who has a criticism of a Netflix special do some numbers doesn't change the fact that they're 4x as likely to face violent crime compared to cis people, doesn't change that 2020 was a record year for trans people being murdered. Someone's ability to get likes on an internet post doesn't make the system less rigged against them lmao, and complaining about those likes isn't giving them equality. Literally what is this.",
"Who's influencing what now?",
"Also, these enemies hate you because of your freedoms.",
"Ight the what was the point of the other 98% of the sets? If he's gonna bring light to the issues caused by white men you don't attack trans women and everyone else in the community.\n\nAlso what the fuck no it isn't LGBTQ+ community is statistically poor as fuck",
"I'm not convinced you actually watched it if that's what you took from it.",
"Definitely not, if you know anything at all about George Carlin?",
">dismisses the struggles of lgbtq. \n\nJesus fucking christ dude, talk about *completely* failing to understand what Dave Chappelle is saying.",
"Did you watch the special? I think there were two or three trans jokes total, and a story about his trans friend who killed herself. \n\n\nAccording to the latest Census, the median household income for LGBTQ+ families was $104,000. The median household income for African American families was $46,000.",
"Netflix paid Dave Chappelle tens of millions of dollars for him to do his specials on his platform. Netflix isn't censoring Chappelle, they are amplifying it in a way few other companies can.",
"One person doesn't have that power. It's only lots of people who do. Lots of people found it offensive, and they're going to punish Chapelle, and anyone who works with him, with their wallets. That's capitalism baby. \n\nWould you prefer that trans people be censored when they feel they're belong maligned? I'm a Texan. If you told millions of people that Texans are all assholes, I'd be well within my rights to say, \"/u/ZerglingsAreCute is talking out his ass.\"\n\nI do agree with you on one thing. Zerglins are cute.",
"He isn't \"punching\" at all, which is what you obviously completely failed to understand here.",
"Why do I have to take from it what the dude said I should take from it? Why are these low-key Republican frat boys coming out of the woodwork in support of black issues now that somebody is trying to pry a wedge between the LGBTQ+ and black communities?\n\nHe says he's supportive, he says he's open to a dialogue, but he flat out isn't. \n\nI watched it and it made my blood boil. It was so goddamn frustrating not only because he was attacking a community I love and care about, using the position of another community I love and care about, but also because it was funny. I or anyone I know couldn't put on a show that could rival that. And it makes me feel powerless and angry. Because it just feels wrong but there's little I can do but argue with strangers on the internet about who has or doesn't have the morale highground.\n\nDo you feel me?",
"Do you find it odd that people love to say that homophobes are secretly gay, insinuating that only gay people are homophobes?",
"What does this have to do with anything? Andrew Dice Gay was a character he did like 20 years ago.",
"I do agree with you, but you can still have an extremely vocal minority.",
"Suuuuure",
"I get it, but if you admit it's funny, why can't you laugh and believe him when he says his jokes aren't coming from a place of hate?",
"Except it's not. The rest is what is. \n\nNo real majority is saying we should silence comedians by taking away their free speech but most critquing them for their language. \n\nYou can argue it's overreacting or something but no one is arguing to literally ban anyone from free speech.",
"You should check it out. Most of it is hilarious and then Chapelle gets super preachy and uses transphobia to attack the entire community because some shitlords in it pushed his friend to commit suicide.",
"Yes, you can literally like The Birth of a Nation if you want. No one is saying you can't. \n\nBut we can always critque these people and their media. Just to be open to critique and understand it.",
"As a prereq of being an LGBTQ+ family you are probably living on the coast in a place that is LGBTQ+ friendly, which means higher cost of living and resources to adopt.\n\nLesbians make a median of 45,606\n\nComing out as trans female in many situations is financial suicide depending on the area you live in. \n\nThink about it how many conservative business execs are going to hire a trans woman?\n\nHow many poor closeted members of the lgbtw+ community are willing / In a comfortable place to accurately self report their orientation?",
"I think people who are amazed that Carlin supposedly “predicted” the 2010s are themselves not fully aware of how deep systemic subjugation goes, and how far back it goes historically. Ultimately what this video illustrates is that it’s tragically as relevant now as it was then. But I believe we’re part of a great wave of change right now and I hold a great deal of optimism for the future, and videos like this remain a testament to human kindness and understanding.",
"Fortunately for Carlin's ghost, Chappelle hasn't been censored.",
"Because nowadays the groups Chapelle talks about wield too much power irresponsibly. They aren’t underdogs.",
"Your average lesbian couple brought in $87,000/yr as of 2019. That’s almost double what an African American family would bring in. \n\nDave was saying being lectured by the LGBTQ+ community was still being lectured by rich white people. \n\nYou should really watch the special because I don’t know how anyone can walk away from that thinking Dave doesn’t like trans people.",
"He said it as part of a joke. The easily offended will of course be offended. There wasn't outrage like this when he made fun of any other minority, but he made jokes about trans people and he is Satan. It just so happens that the majority of prominent transgender individuals are wealthy white people, any surprise there? Yes while some metrics show black and Hispanic demographic have a higher rate of transgender there are far more white transgender people who are prominent \"leaders\" of the community. I say leaders because I'm drawing a blank on a more fitting term. Chappelle even addresses just that, I can't remember if it's this comedy show or an older one.",
"It was very clearly a joke if you watch the special. I say give it a watch so you can form your own opinion, instead of taking someone else's as a good source. Weather mine or anyone else we are not a substitute for deciding for yourself.",
"I had no idea...anyway the question still stands.",
"Just because Carlin says something doesnt mean it is correct. Weather you or I agree or disagree with Carlin, what he said is based on his opinion and assumptions.",
"Yes. You don't have to agree with someone on all points, and you usually shouldn't.",
"Average couple is at 125k a year. You can't compare poor to poor and call the less poor one rich. They should both be way higher. Even if he doesn't hate trans people he's convincing people they don't need help anymore.",
"Way to completely miss whatever Dave Chapelle is talking about. Did you watch any of his specials? He clearly states in almost al of them that he knows everyone is getting shit on. He talks about black suffering the most because he is black and knows what it feels and looks like. He’s not gonna talk about the suffering on other marginalized groups at length because he isn’t part of those groups.\n\nHe thinks everyone is human and having a very personal human struggle. He makes fun of it and tells jokes about it because he respects their struggle. Not because he thinks they’re freaks. No one said shit when he made fun of Mexicans back in the day because Mexicans knew what he was talking about. Hell I’m fucking Mexican and I love Chapelle. This is the difference between minorities and other marginalized groups that Dave was talking about.\n\n“They’re minorities until they want to be white again.”",
"I suspect so.\n\nDave's got a habit of expressing empathy for marginalized people before abruptly changing up to punch down on them. It's not far removed from what Carlin was talking about in the linked video.",
"Because the comedians he is talking about makes these jokes out of fear, what does Chappelle have to fear? Getting cancelled or whatever you want to call it? If he never did any of these specials he is still a rich man who doesn't need to work another day in his life.",
"The question implies that people who are calling out someone for being homophobic, by calling them gay is in itself, homophobic.",
"Keyword is \"attempting\". Really should work on that reading comprehension.",
"Could not disagree more. If we take your interpretation of the definition then NBC cancelling Community was censorship. \n\nAnd no need to get mean with it, Dave will be fine and you’ll get to see more of his material.",
"They aren't from a place of hate but a place of ignorance. Trans people and black people are both oppressed groups. Criticizing one in an attempt to better the other just isn't productive though.\n\nI'm cis and male, I can say for certain I would not be anywhere near I am in terms of professional development and socioeconomic status if I came out as trans or was black.\n\nI want to believe him when he says his beef is with white people, but he contradicts himself so much throughout the routine and subsequent interviews and if he means what he said then his supporters are getting the wrong idea.",
"Have you ever been in a friend group where people like to take the piss out of each other, but then one guy crosses a line? Like maybe one guy's dad died and the other guy starts making fun of him for not having a dad. Then the whole group kind of says, \"that's not cool dude.\" And then that guy decides to double down on the joke + gets all butthurt that not everyone finds his douchebaggery amusing. That's what this whole thing feels like.",
"Seeing this post COVID, they are uncomfortably close.",
"Swedish-German Andy Richter?",
">There literally are\n\nThat's not how you use that word. Stop trying to put people down to make your point.\n\nNothing is above mockery, not death, cancer, or even you.",
"quo·ta·tion mark\n\n/kwəˈtāSHən ˌmärk/\n\nLearn to pronounce\n\nnoun\n\neach of a set of punctuation marks, single (‘ ’) or double (“ ”), used either to mark the beginning and end of a title or quoted passage, or to indicate that a word or phrase is regarded as slang or jargon or is being discussed rather than used within the sentence.",
"I’m still traumatized from those comments lmao",
"Then that’s an indictment of the effect capitalism has on morality. Doesn’t change the fact that he wasn’t canceled and referring to him as evidence that people do is invalid.",
"We were talking about people not liking what Chappell said in his special, not his activism, or even his comedy. Who’s the one jumping around now?",
"He has a right to say it. He doesn't have freedom from criticism or freedom from loss of platform or the right not to be boycotted. That's really all \"cancel culture\" is. If the person doesn't want to back down, fine. If the platform wants to support the person, fine. But people don't have to watch it if they don't want to and they're free to criticize it as well. Because they have their own freedom of speech. And if a boycott means the platform takes the show down because they might lose a ton of money, then that's just the power of freedom of speech. Platforms have to appease customers. They aren't a public forum.",
"There are plenty of jokes about people's dead parents or people getting cancer. Just because you don't find them funny doesn't mean people can't joke about those things.",
"People are hating on Chapelle for being unfunny. That last special was shit. I don't even care about who he was talking about.",
"Yes, I lost my uncle and exactly what you described happened to me, but I got over it and can laugh about it now. People fuck up. People make mistakes. Sometimes a joke doesn't land, and sometimes it's just a shitty joke, but that doesn't mean everyone should be up in arms to cancel that person.",
"I am guessing most people didn't watch the special and are on the outrage bandwagon. His special humanizes Trans people in a way I have never seen elsewhere. “I don’t need you to understand me. I just need you to believe that I’m having a human experience.” ",
"Easy to say when *you* aren't the one being punched at.",
">Making jokes about trans people isn't inciting hatred against their existence.\n\nI agree. Where's the exaggeration?",
"Hey, thanks for demonstrating exactly the kind of fragility Carlin was talking about in the linked video. Well done!",
"Not the content of his comedy, not his activism. If you actually scroll up to the comment you started whining about you’ll see that this was about people throwing around ‘censorship’ when it’s not even close to happening. You’re taking stuff out of context desperately trying to prove your point, it’s a classic Olive Argument case.",
"Well, it all depends on how you put it, since what you just described is what 90% of comedy is. It lets you look at things from a different angle. I'm pretty sure Dave Chapelle was the person who dressed up in whiteface, which by all means should be extremely offensive, but it was fucking hilarious.\n\nHowever, if you go onto stage and start screaming racial slurs with no punchline and no relatability, and you call them jokes, you're not a comedian. You're just a liar.",
"You are utterly blind to the irony in your words.",
"That's true, he did - but he also said he needed to have a talk with the trans comedians daughter, but that he's not ready to have the conversation yet. My take on it was he knew the way he thought about trans issues was wrong, and understood he had to grow as a person to deal with it.",
"Trans is underdog?\nWhen every company, business, and government flies their flag?\nDave was punching up.",
"Easy to say when he isn't punching. \n\nYou obviously hasn't even seen his stuff and is just parroting what you heard someone else say.",
"it show you the mentality. dice was told not to do it, tought he was bigger and paid the price. who give a fuck what brown does in the freetime",
"I didn't say all jokes were okay, I said all people or topics can be joked about.",
"You either didn't even watch what he's saying, which honestly would be my first guess, or something is wrong with how you interpret what someone else says. \n\n**Let's do a test:**\n\nThere are two siblings. The brother asks his parents if he can have an ice cream. They tell him no. Ten minutes later, the sister asks if she can have an ice cream. The parents tell her sure.\n\nSeeing this, the brother then argues he should also get an ice cream. \n\nIs the brother now \"punching down\" on the sister? \n\nThis example is actually very close to what is going on with Dave Chappelle and the outraged trans people, but you haven't even bothered to check that out, have you? You're just repeating what you heard *someone else* say, who most likely also didn't watch it. \n\nSolution: Go watch his stuff, listen to what he's saying and then come back. Good.",
"I'm trying to help you sad people... You clearly didn't have parents and are confused between right and wrong and you've all become corporate useful idiots that are just pawns to a corporate game... You're just too sad, pathetic, and dumb to see it. You needed a parent to slap you and say \"no\" as a kid, but you never got it. Now it's everyone else's fault. I'm thin skinned because I pointed that out for you? I did you a favor, bud...",
"Probably because you have a bad grasp of what constitutes a \"straw man\"?",
"I can, after all it's just a matter of value judgement. Chappelle's values are clearly different, and he thinks he was right to make that call. I think less of him for it, and I think it takes away from the argument he was trying to make. \n\nI don't think anyone should make that leap when you're trying to make an argument. It's always self-serving and gross, even if you were super close to someone. In some ways, I think it makes it worse.",
"I don't know if you're referencing a different joke, but the ones I've seen have shown him almost explicitly saying he feels Trans women are on a completely different level of \"real\" when compared to white people blackening up. Meaning he thinks of Trans women as real women, rather than men playing dress up.",
"All situations can be joked about, sure. That doesn't mean a joke is appropriate in all situations. Like, you probably shouldn't make a joke about miscarriages to someone who just experienced a miscarriage, but that doesn't mean you can't in some other context make a joke about miscarriages, or even that miscarriage, again depending on the context.\n\nLike a comedian probably shouldn't joke about someone dying during their show as it happens, but there's nothing saying they can't add something about it to a later act.",
"Did you just assume my gender? You should be ashamed of yourself.",
"Fragile lol",
"Bottom text",
"So…Jack went down on Jill is what you’re saying?",
"Yes, yes, the ever present variant of the \"Emperor's Clothes\" fallacy. \"How can you claim the Emperor is naked when you clearly haven't addressed Smythe's treatise on the splendor of the Emperor's invisible ermine trim?\"\n\nThe fact of the matter is, I am familiar with a considerable amount of Chappelle's work, and appreciate a lot of it - he *is* a talented comedian. But some of his work absolutely is punching down, reinforcing negative stereotypes, and just plain mean-spirited, and the fact that he usually prefaces these downward punches by expressing empathy doesn't mitigate the damage he does by puling this shit, and you would do well to listen when people in a position to *know* when they are being punched say \"we're being punched\".",
"When he went over the TERF stuff almost none of it was in a joking tone or format. You’re delusional. The spiel was just him venting hate. \n\nTell us you’re a transphobe without saying it.",
"He may not have liked censors, but the legend would see how most of his TERF spiel was just getting hate off his chest and not making it humorous at all.",
"A lot of comedians are also depressive and prone to suicidal thoughts. Makes sense for them to laugh about it. It's how they respond to things.",
"Again, you obviously haven't seen his stuff, despite putting it in vague terms like \"I am familiar with a considerable amount...\". Sound like you watched The Chappelle Show 15 years ago or have seen some youtube clips. \n\nWatch his stuff first, realize you fucked up, then come back. Please. Until then you're just another person parroting what you heard someone else say, who did the same thing you just did (which is parroting what he heard someone else say). \n\nBye bye then!",
"That's true, his last special wasn't really funny lol",
"“No idea what your last paragraph means.” \nIt’s in plain English.",
"Andrew Dice Clay.",
"Endless Strawmen",
"You can cry wolf about attempted censorship all you want, Netflix removing from their platform still isn’t it. \n\nAgain, pulling shit from the air, you gotta stop with the Olive Arguments man.",
"So as an amateur it is ok to tell people to kill themselves?",
"This interesting in the context of Carlins commentary, bc the trans community is both an underdog AND abuses their power at times\n\nMeanwhile Dave is also coming from the angle of representing an underdog community. \n\nIt's a unique dynamic .. and I'm sure Carlin would be on Dave's side",
"??? He absolutely wouldn't- this clip explicitly shows that. You'd have to delude yourself to think otherwise",
"No, no it's not. The rest is.",
"Nah you're just too stupid to realize when it's working on you.",
"You're the one rambling about free markets",
"Oooh boy, someone’s upset! Scrolling through my post history! And you gotta lay off community college man, what’s your issue with affordable higher Ed? \n\nAnd jeez oh pete, getting on me for being “woke” when you’re panicking so hard that earlier you tried to claim I was silencing a black activist. Come on now Joe, Dave isn’t going to pat you on the back no matter how hard you type.\n\nI’m starting to think you don’t even know what an Olive Argument is.",
"*cough, Ben Shapiro, *cough…sorry, allergies are bad right now",
"> I’d say if you’re suicidal going to an edgy standup show is probably a bad idea.\n\nNow all you gotta do is extend this logic to every crying idiot in this thread.",
"Norm had a bit about how he'd kill a woman and hide her body. Does that make a Norm a murderer? Think about how fucking dumb you sound right now.",
"> they argue that what he said isn’t deserving of criticism in the first place\n\nWho is arguing that? Strawmen?",
"The people actually offended at Dave would also be offended if you called them Americans. Don't rope us in with them.",
"I’d rather support a party who wants people to do what they want, then support a party who says “small government” then cries for the government to control things they don’t like.",
"Good thing real comedians don't actually believe in punching down, much less establishing any rules in comedy at all.",
"It's cute when the most humorless demographic thinks they can police comedy.",
"How so?\n\n\"Being cancelled means being excluded, however that manifests?\"\n\nThat seems like a pretty broad category? A lot of people get excluded from film festivals because their movie doesn't have a connected producer. Does that mean they're cancelled?\n\nThe point I'm trying to make is no one is entitled to a platform, and there are risks with taking controversial stances. After all, there aren't endless resources to provide people with endless platforms to talk, so private entities will always have to decide what values they want to hold. \n\nThe film festivals have decided they care move about the trans people and allies who don't want Chapelle there. Some other festivals decided otherwise. \n\nIt would be nice if a multi-decade veteran of the entertainment industry, who's fully aware of that, would just quit whining about it. \n\nAfter all, he decided to cancel his own show because he made his own value judgement.",
"Carlin would hate people like you.",
"Reddit has made me fucking hate george carlin.",
">Find a stranger and crack some jokes about their dead family members and see what happens, we obviously have limits to jokes. \n\nAssault is a crime. So is battery. Last I checked, I live in a free country and can say whatever the fuck I want. If you don't like that, I don't care. Move.\n\nIf you think hurt feelings justifies physical violence, you are the problem.",
"That's just the tip of the iceberg \n\nNeed to break this up since this sub has a character limit otherwise automod removes this\n\npart 1\n\nHe didn't make the distinction between mud slinging accounts on twitter (2nd most toxic social media) and the LGTBQ community in general. He goes out of his way to address the entire LGBTQ community explicitly in his gripes. He said that they act like minorities until they need to act white around Black people, based off one personal bad personal experience. He said 'Trans people make up words to win arguments'. He said the trans are out to get him and he needs to look for adams apples\n\n---\n\nHe blamed LGBTQ people for cancelling JKRowling for stating a fact, but she was never cancelled. Still with her publisher, writing stories about cross dressers who are predators. And the backlash was not just for 'stating an opinion'. She openly befriended and amplified the voices of TERFs and wrote an entire manifesto which insinuated that trans women were just sexual predator men in disguise\n\nPeople called her out on her temperament and incorrect facts, and Chappelle wants to silence these people by stirring up backlash by lying about what she did and what happened to her\n\nHe has a huge media platform and tons of further media that will report any statement he makes off the cuff. But it's wrong to criticize a celeb, while people with twitter accounts with less than 10 followers who should be silenced?",
"part 2\n\nHe complained that the LGBTQ community is preventing him to from going after white people, that he had them on the ropes before the LGBTQ community stopped him. But it's Dave who keeps on dedicating his specials to them. When his last special was released there were no articles being written about his beef with them, no social media trends. And then he dedicated nearly his whole special to them\n\nAnd if he wants to get conspiratorial about white people, race, and sexuality issues, look at what they did in India and the Philippines. They did a ton to demonize homosexuality in those areas. They always do. Like the Hindy/Muslim animosity and the Caste system in India (which existed before the British came, but they dialed that the knob up to 100% by codefying into law and making it a part of their educational system) and apartheid in South Africa, they are always pitting minority groups against each other so that they won't focus on their oppressor\n\nHow can this be more glaring than that the anti-gay people and anti-trans people are the same ones who are anti-BLM. The same people who keep passing laws specifically targeting Black people from voting",
"part 3\n\nHe complained 'to what extent am I obligated to participate in your self image'. He has none, but to what extent are they obligated to indulge in the idea that he is beyond criticism? To what extent should they suppress the fact that he is no longer a positive influence in their life\n\nHe complained about trans people using made up words to win arguments, but the majority of the terms that were coined for identifying phenomena regarding the marginalization of minorities came from the racial equality movements. It's mostly the anti-BLM people who criticize people for using terms like microaggressions",
"part 4\n\nHe blamed the LGBTQ community for taking away Kevin Hart's childhood dream of hosting the Oscars\n\nFirst, his old jokes were hurtful. Don Lemon did a great job of explaining why. I'm not going to link the youtube videos because that tends to get my comment deleted by the automod but I'll just mention what to look up on youtube\n\nYoutube Don Lemmon Kevin Hart\n\nAnd Kevin Hart later acknowledged at much, saying that he has grown since\n\nYoutube Kevin Hart apology\n\nBut the issue is that he was adamant in not addressing it twice. But he never apologized the first time. No apologies in every interview he did about his hurtful comments prior to the Oscars; he defended himself and blamed the audience each time\n\nGoogle the vulture.com article titled \"Where Are Kevin Hart’s Past Apologies? An Investigation\"\n\nIf hosting the Oscars truly was his childhood dream and giving an apology (and instead lying about previously apologizing) was a boundary, then he has a \"Brittle-ass spirit\" (Dave's phrase for LouisCK victims)\n\nBtw by his own usage of the terminology, Dave tried to 'cancel' Don Lemon\n\nYoutube Don Lemmon responds to Chappelle",
"part 5\n\nDave says 'look how well the LGBTQ movement is going' as a comparison to the racial equality movement. There are instances where it may be useful to compare movements to better understand varying methods of minority marginalization, but this discussion is wholly incomplete without the discussion of areas where they are not comparable, because systems of oppression uses different tactics to oppress different groups. In Dave's own HOME STATE of Ohio they passed a law that allows doctors to deny LGBTQ people health care on moral grounds. In 27 states, there are no explicit statewide laws at all protecting people from discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity in employment, housing and public accommodations. Which means in over half the country you can be fired or denied housing just for being gay or trans. Conversion therapy is legal in 30 states. Texas just banned a suicide hotline for LGBTQ youths\n\nRegarding the insinuation that the LGBTQ community responsible for Daphane's death, he didn't mention that she had lost custody of her child shortly before her suicide. Also, he didn't seem at that close as he refused to go to her funeral or 3 memorials of hers when invited. Also, nobody can find the bullying as described by Chappelle. Daphane's defense of Chappelle had less than 10 twitter replies",
"part 6 (had to censor this a lot for it to not be deleted by the automod)\n\nHe also complained that Dababy got cancelled for being phobic but not for mrder. First, it's always easier for celebrities to attack individuals over attacking minorities\n\nThe CEO of papa john got cancelled for using a slur. Roseanne got cancelled for telling a POC person she looks like a animal. Kramer got cancelled for using the a slur.\n\nChris Brown got away with beating Rihanna. Don King stomped a guy to death and went on to become boxing's biggest promoter. R*bert Richards, heir to the DuPont company, was convicted of * his daughter and served no jail time. Attacks on individuals don't elicit the media attention like racism and *phobia do. But this is somehow the fault of the LGBTQ community?",
"part 7 \n\nFurthermore, social media backlash isn't a strong indicator of the extent to which systemic racism and homophobia is being addressed in our society. There's still record high killings of trans people. Police can still largely murder POC and face no legal repercussions\n\nAnd even if you wanted to use that, KevinHart still making billion dollar movies, JKRowling still publishing novels, DaBaby recording a song for Kanyes new album. Megyn Kelly, Roseanne Barr, Michael Richards, CEO of papa johns are actually cancelled\n\nActual cancellations from social media backlash are when corporations stop doing business with a person because their image no longer brings in the same revenue as when they hired them. This never really challenges the root power structures and phobias in our society. It doesn't matter how many celebrities throw their careers in toilet, it won't affect systemic racism in policing",
"part 8 \n\nI don't think Dave was homophobic/transphobic in his initial specials. He had some cognitive biases which resulting in him saying some hurtful stuff. But his refusal to accept any criticism and the resulting backlash has resulted in a full blown fear -> phobia of LGBTQ people besides 'the good ones' who are his friends. It's similar to a type of racism many white people have today; they believe in the idea of equality in general, but think the Black community are people hateful to white people when the kneel for the Anthem and criticize the police. They use isolated incidents like looting and random youtube videos to characterize the whole Black community. They think the average Black person has more privilege than the average white person by pointing to people being cancelled by racism the way Dave points to people being cancelled for homophobia. They think Black people are misguided in how they address systemic racism, and I feel Dave feels similarly about how LGBTQ address systemic homophobia/transphobia\n\nDave wants full equality for LGBTQ people but he didn't want them to address the very hurtful comments made by Kevin Hart or JK Rowling. He doesn't want them to call out people for using slurs; he complained about not being able to use the F-word slur. He also implied that the idea of the LGBTQ calling themselves 'my people' is racist, but at the end of the special used that exact phrase to refer to his fellow comedians, 'Stop punching down on my people'\n\nHe always tries to pit the LGBTQ community against the Black community. He complained 'why is it easier for Bruce Jenner to change his gender than it was for Cassius Clay to change his name'. Trans people EXISTED in the 60s, and throughout history. It wasn't easier, it took 50 years after the stonewall riots, which Dave actually referenced in his special. But why do this dumb game Dave wants us to play, does a person with cancer need to complain every time there's a breakthrough in AIDS research?\n\nIf his point is that the rich white power structures in our country are using LGBTQ issues to put down Black people, then he should go after the white power structures in our country directly and specifically. Maybe there are pockets of LGBTQ people putting down Black people like Peter Theil, but largely the white power structures strategy is to pit marginalized grounds against each other. The same people trying to put homophobia and transphobia into our school curriculum are the same ones who are trying to prevent Black people from voting\n\nDave says LGBTQ people act like minorities until it's convenient for them not to, but he's is doing exactly that with his cis/hetero/male privilege to wage with his fellow millionaire celebrities",
"joe rogan, ben shapiro, jordan peterson. they all have their own shtick yet seem to have a large overlap in their target audience.",
"A lot of Dave critics aren't calling for it to be censored, and censoring Dave wasn't in the demands of the Netflix organizers. \n\nDave, otoh, it's trying to suppress criticism by lying about the LGTBQ community. \n\nHave to break this into parts cuz of the low ch limit on /r/videos \n\nPart 1\n\nHe blamed LGBTQ people for cancelling JKRowling for stating a fact, but she was never cancelled. Still with her publisher, writing stories about cross dressers who are predators. And the backlash was not just for 'stating an opinion'. She openly befriended and amplified the voices of TERFs and wrote an entire manifesto which insinuated that trans women were just sexual predator men in disguise\n\nPeople called her out on her temperament and incorrect facts, and Chappelle wants to silence these people by stirring up backlash by lying about what she did and what happened to her\n\nHe has a huge media platform and tons of further media that will report any statement he makes off the cuff. But it's wrong to criticize a celeb, while people with twitter accounts with less than 10 followers who should be silenced?",
"Part 2 \n\nHe blamed the LGBTQ community for taking away Kevin Hart's childhood dream of hosting the Oscars\n\nFirst, his old jokes were hurtful. Don Lemon did a great job of explaining why. I'm not going to link the youtube videos because that tends to get my comment deleted by the automod but I'll just mention what to look up on youtube\n\nYoutube Don Lemmon Kevin Hart\n\nAnd Kevin Hart later acknowledged at much, saying that he has grown since\n\nYoutube Kevin Hart apology\n\nBut the issue is that he was adamant in not addressing it twice. But he never apologized the first time. No apologies in every interview he did about his hurtful comments prior to the Oscars; he defended himself and blamed the audience each time\n\nGoogle the vulture.com article titled \"Where Are Kevin Hart’s Past Apologies? An Investigation\"\n\nIf hosting the Oscars truly was his childhood dream and giving an apology (and instead lying about previously apologizing) was a boundary, then he has a \"Brittle-ass spirit\" (Dave's phrase for LouisCK victims)\n\nBtw by his own usage of the terminology, Dave tried to 'cancel' Don Lemon\n\nYoutube Don Lemmon responds to Chappelle",
"part 3\n\n\n\nHe complained that the LGBTQ community is preventing him to from going after white people, that he had them on the ropes before the LGBTQ community stopped him. But it's Dave who keeps on dedicating his specials to them. When his last special was released there were no articles being written about his beef with them, no social media trends. And then he dedicated nearly his whole special to them\n\nAnd if he wants to get conspiratorial about white people, race, and sexuality issues, look at what they did in India and the Philippines. They did a ton to demonize homosexuality in those areas. They always do. Like the Hindy/Muslim animosity and the Caste system in India (which existed before the British came, but they dialed that the knob up to 100% by codefying into law and making it a part of their educational system) and apartheid in South Africa, they are always pitting minority groups against each other so that they won't focus on their oppressor\n\nHow can this be more glaring than that the anti-gay people and anti-trans people are the same ones who are anti-BLM. The same people who keep passing laws specifically targeting Black people from voting",
"I think a lot of criticism of The Closer that people who normally appreciate Chappelle's work have, is that the jokes just kind of revolved around \"Trans women are weird.\" The \"joke\" where he's in the bathroom and a woman walks up to the urinal and makes him feel uncomfortable just really came across like something Steven Crowder would use as a talking point. Not cancel-worthy, just really unfunny, unoriginal humor.",
"Except removing Chappelle wasn't in the Netflix organizers demands, and a lot of his critics like Don Lemmon want it to stay up. \n\nAnd it's Chappelle whose trying to censor people by stirring backlash against the LGBTQ community for speaking out on things that people actually say and do. \n\nHe blamed LGBTQ people for cancelling JKRowling for stating a fact, but she was never cancelled. Still with her publisher, writing stories about cross dressers who are predators. And the backlash was not just for 'stating an opinion'. She openly befriended and amplified the voices of TERFs and wrote an entire manifesto which insinuated that trans women were just sexual predator men in disguise\n\nPeople called her out on her temperament and incorrect facts, and Chappelle wants to silence these people by stirring up backlash by lying about what she did and what happened to her\n\nHe has a huge media platform and tons of further media that will report any statement he makes off the cuff. But it's wrong to criticize a celeb, while people with twitter accounts with less than 10 followers who should be silenced?",
"Everyone using the new buzzword of the day: Punching Down. \n\n\nGot to love groupthink. \n\n\nComedy: Either it is all okay, or none of it is.",
"Removing Chappelle wasn't in the Netflex protestors demands, and many of his top critics aren't calling for it to stay up like Don Lemmon of CNN, Jessie Gender on youtube, Aja Romano of Vox, and Saeed Jones of GQ\n\nAnd it's Chappelle whose trying to suppress the voices of the LGBTQ community by lying about them. \n\nHe blamed LGBTQ people for cancelling JKRowling for stating a fact, but she was never cancelled. Still with her publisher, writing stories about cross dressers who are predators. And the backlash was not just for 'stating an opinion'. She openly befriended and amplified the voices of TERFs and wrote an entire manifesto which insinuated that trans women were just sexual predator men in disguise\n\nPeople called her out on her temperament and incorrect facts, and Chappelle wants to silence these people by stirring up backlash by lying about what she did and what happened to her\n\nHe has a huge media platform and tons of further media that will report any statement he makes off the cuff. But it's wrong to criticize a celeb, while people with twitter accounts with less than 10 followers who should be silenced?",
"I believe he's developed a genuine paranoia towards the LGBTQ community. \n\nHave to break this into parts cuz of the low ch limit on /r/videos \n\nPart 1\n\nHe didn't make the distinction between mud slinging accounts on twitter (2nd most toxic social media) and the LGTBQ community in general. He said that the LGBTQ community acts like minorities until they need to act white around Black people, based off one personal bad personal experience. He said 'Trans people make up words to win arguments'. He said the trans are out to get him and he needs to look for adams apples/knuckles. He's aware of social media toxicity (twitter not a real place) but then he tries to paint the whole LGBTQ community by the most inflammatory accounts on there\n\n\n-------\n\nHe blamed LGBTQ people for cancelling JKRowling for stating a fact, but she was never cancelled. Still with her publisher, writing stories about cross dressers who are predators. And the backlash was not just for 'stating an opinion'. She openly befriended and amplified the voices of TERFs and wrote an entire manifesto which insinuated that trans women were just sexual predator men in disguise\n\nPeople called her out on her temperament and incorrect facts, and Chappelle wants to silence these people by stirring up backlash by lying about what she did and what happened to her\n\nHe has a huge media platform and tons of further media that will report any statement he makes off the cuff. But it's wrong to criticize a celeb, while people with twitter accounts with less than 10 followers who should be silenced?",
"Part 2\n\nHe blamed the LGBTQ community for taking away Kevin Hart's childhood dream of hosting the Oscars\n\nFirst, his old jokes were hurtful. Don Lemon did a great job of explaining why. I'm not going to link the youtube videos because that tends to get my comment deleted by the automod but I'll just mention what to look up on youtube\n\nYoutube Don Lemmon Kevin Hart\n\nAnd Kevin Hart later acknowledged at much, saying that he has grown since\n\nYoutube Kevin Hart apology\n\nBut the issue is that he was adamant in not addressing it twice. But he never apologized the first time. No apologies in every interview he did about his hurtful comments prior to the Oscars; he defended himself and blamed the audience each time\n\nGoogle the vulture.com article titled \"Where Are Kevin Hart’s Past Apologies? An Investigation\"\n\nIf hosting the Oscars truly was his childhood dream and giving an apology (and instead lying about previously apologizing) was a boundary, then he has a \"Brittle-ass spirit\" (Dave's phrase for LouisCK victims)\n\nBtw by his own usage of the terminology, Dave tried to 'cancel' Don Lemon\n\nYoutube Don Lemmon responds to Chappelle",
"Part 3 \n\nI don't think Dave was homophobic/transphobic in his initial specials. He had some cognitive biases which resulting in him saying some hurtful stuff. But his refusal to accept any criticism and the resulting backlash has resulted in a full blown fear -> phobia of LGBTQ people besides 'the good ones' who are his friends. It's similar to a type of racism many white people have today; they believe in the idea of equality in general, but think the Black community are people hateful to white people when the kneel for the Anthem and criticize the police. They use isolated incidents like looting and random youtube videos to characterize the whole Black community. They think the average Black person has more privilege than the average white person by pointing to people being cancelled by racism the way Dave points to people being cancelled for homophobia. They think Black people are misguided in how they address systemic racism, and I feel Dave feels similarly about how LGBTQ address systemic homophobia/transphobia\n\nDave wants full equality for LGBTQ people but he didn't want them to address the very hurtful comments made by Kevin Hart or JK Rowling. He doesn't want them to call out people for using slurs; he complained about not being able to use the F-word slur. He also implied that the idea of the LGBTQ calling themselves 'my people' is racist, but at the end of the special used that exact phrase to refer to his fellow comedians, 'Stop punching down on my people'\n\nHe always tries to pit the LGBTQ community against the Black community. He complained 'why is it easier for Bruce Jenner to change his gender than it was for Cassius Clay to change his name'. Trans people EXISTED in the 60s, and throughout history. It wasn't easier, it took 50 years after the stonewall riots, which Dave actually referenced in his special. But why do this dumb game Dave wants us to play, does a person with cancer need to complain every time there's a breakthrough in AIDS research?\n\nIf his point is that the rich white power structures in our country are using LGBTQ issues to put down Black people, then he should go after the white power structures in our country directly and specifically. Maybe there are pockets of LGBTQ people putting down Black people like Peter Theil, but largely the white power structures strategy is to pit marginalized grounds against each other. The same people trying to put homophobia and transphobia into our school curriculum are the same ones who are trying to prevent Black people from voting\n\nDave says LGBTQ people act like minorities until it's convenient for them not to, but he's is doing exactly that with his cis/hetero/male privilege to wage with his fellow millionaire celebrities",
"Well yeh. ......Essentially because what you’re saying is that these shitty people must be gay. I get the dudes point.",
"Yeah, I'm not calling for him to be cancelled and I love his earlier work. But dang, there is a ton to critique in his new special. \n\nOne example, \nDave says 'look how well the LGBTQ movement is going' as a comparison to the racial equality movement. There are instances where it may be useful to compare movements to better understand varying methods of minority marginalization, but this discussion is wholly incomplete without the discussion of areas where they are not comparable, because systems of oppression uses different tactics to oppress different groups. In Dave's own HOME STATE of Ohio they passed a law that allows doctors to deny LGBTQ people health care on moral grounds. In 27 states, there are no explicit statewide laws at all protecting people from discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity in employment, housing and public accommodations. Which means in over half the country you can be fired or denied housing just for being gay or trans. Conversion therapy is legal in 30 states. Texas just banned a suicide hotline for LGBTQ youths",
"Nobody is arguing some people are off limits, but I am arguing that Dave expressed genuine phobias about the LGBTQ community. \n\nIf a mega popular celeb can't be critiqued, that’s pretty damn privileged. If you have the ability to use your mega popularity to stir backlash against a minority, that's pretty dam privileged. \n\nDave, is trying to silence the LGTBQ community by lying about them.\n\nHave to break this into parts cuz of the low ch limit on /r/videos \n\nHe blamed LGBTQ people for cancelling JKRowling for stating a fact, but she was never cancelled. Still with her publisher, writing stories about cross dressers who are predators. And the backlash was not just for 'stating an opinion'. She openly befriended and amplified the voices of TERFs and wrote an entire manifesto which insinuated that trans women were just sexual predator men in disguise\n\nPeople called her out on her temperament and incorrect facts, and Chappelle wants to silence these people by stirring up backlash by lying about what she did and what happened to her\n\nHe has a huge media platform and tons of further media that will report any statement he makes off the cuff. But it's wrong to criticize a celeb, while people with twitter accounts with less than 10 followers who should be silenced?",
"A lot of trans talk, but nothing about Black people. You seemed to have missed some of the special, because I remember him saying something like \"he's not a woman or trans and shouldn't be speaking on this..\" to your comment on TERFS. Did anyone notice the different laughter's between the two \"space jew\" jokes? Or the laughter when he said DaBaby killed a n**** in WalMart? So much laughter.",
"You're taking the worst sides of the right and comparing it to the best sides of the left. You're saying \"look at these racists on the streets and compare that to these people on the left that thinks teachers should earn more money!\". The equivalent woud be: \"look at these leftist antagonizers who are setting small businesses on fire and compare that to these people on the right who thinks small businesses should get tax breaks!\" \n\nSee, if you think that's an unfair example, you should re-evaluate because that's what you are doing.",
"Also, lets see what Chappelle is doing. \n\nIs he confirming that he's not above criticism?\n\nOr is he trying to suppress criticism by lying about the LGBTQ community?\n\nHe blamed LGBTQ people for cancelling JKRowling for stating a fact, but she was never cancelled. Still with her publisher, writing stories about cross dressers who are predators. And the backlash was not just for 'stating an opinion'. She openly befriended and amplified the voices of TERFs and wrote an entire manifesto which insinuated that trans women were just sexual predator men in disguise\n\nPeople called her out on her temperament and incorrect facts, and Chappelle wants to silence these people by stirring up backlash by lying about what she did and what happened to her\n\nHe has a huge media platform and tons of further media that will report any statement he makes off the cuff. But it's wrong to criticize a celeb, while people with twitter accounts with less than 10 followers who should be silenced?",
"Furthermore, social media backlash isn't a strong indicator of the extent to which systemic racism and homophobia is being addressed in our society. There's still record high killings of trans people. Police can still largely murder POC and face no legal repercussions\n\nAnd even if you wanted to use that, KevinHart still making billion dollar movies, JKRowling still publishing novels, DaBaby recording a song for Kanyes new album. Megyn Kelly, Roseanne Barr, Michael Richards, CEO of papa johns are actually cancelled\n\nActual cancellations from social media backlash are when corporations stop doing business with a person because their image no longer brings in the same revenue as when they hired them. This never really challenges the root power structures and phobias in our society. It doesn't matter how many celebrities throw their careers in toilet, it won't affect systemic racism in policing",
"Furthermore, Dave says 'look how well the LGBTQ movement is going' as a comparison to the racial equality movement. There are instances where it may be useful to compare movements to better understand varying methods of minority marginalization, but this discussion is wholly incomplete without the discussion of areas where they are not comparable, because systems of oppression uses different tactics to oppress different groups. \n\nIn Dave's own HOME STATE of Ohio they passed a law that allows doctors to deny LGBTQ people health care on moral grounds. In 27 states, there are no explicit statewide laws at all protecting people from discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity in employment, housing and public accommodations. Which means in over half the country you can be fired or denied housing just for being gay or trans. Conversion therapy is legal in 30 states. Texas just banned a suicide hotline for LGBTQ youths\n\nRegarding the insinuation that the LGBTQ community responsible for Daphane's death, he didn't mention that she had lost custody of her child shortly before her suicide. Also, he didn't seem at that close as he refused to go to her funeral or 3 memorials of hers when invited. Also, nobody can find the bullying as described by Chappelle. Daphane's defense of Chappelle had less than 10 twitter replies",
"Mods removed that one for some reason. Search for it, you can't find it, unless you have a direct link.",
"Astute observation. He is not a comedian. He is an activist. One of the few people I held in high regard. Another is James Randi.",
"It was only got to the front page 1 once before this month, Mods removed that one for some reason. Search for it, you can't find it, unless you have a direct link.",
"You just called trans people dicks.\n\nI'm offended",
"He complained 'to what extent am I obligated to participate in your self image'. He has none, but to what extent are they obligated to indulge in the idea that he is beyond criticism? To what extent should they suppress the fact that he is no longer a positive influence in their life\n\nHe complained about trans people using made up words to win arguments, but the majority of the terms that were coined for identifying phenomena regarding the marginalization of minorities came from the racial equality movements. It's mostly the anti-BLM people who criticize people for using terms like microaggressions",
"What if I don't have an irrational fear of homosexuals and I just want to make jokes about it.\n\nReductionist argument much?",
"If he said it it a comedy special, shouldn’t there be, I don’t know, some *comedy* to it?",
"I remember actually watching this live. Fuck im old.\n\nAlso, George Carlin was so ahead of his time. I don't think I fully understood how deep he was until after his death, but so many things he said 15, 20 or 30 years ago could have been uttered today and been just as relevant now, if not even moreso.",
"TIL \" phobia \" means making jokes about.\n\nYou know when you're scared of spiders and one jumps on you so you tell a joke about it.\n\nTurns out THATS arachnophobia.",
"He’s clearly scared of being cancelled, that’s why he’s hiding under Rogan’s skirts. \n\nThis is the gu who got rich and weepy because only frat boys were coming to his shows and demanding Rick James. \n\n15 years later, and he’s shucking and jiving for the same frat boys, and kissing their king’s ring. Dude is pathetic.",
"“No one can criticize comedians.” -You",
"Netflix can’t censor him. What Netflix can and did do is give him millions of dollars and provide a soapbox. The alt-right is mad because we didn’t laugh hard enough and applaud loud enough.",
"Just because you didn't find it funny doesn't mean everyone else feels the same. And this is *including* those that were at the expense of the joke. I find it incredibly difficult to believe every transgender individual is offended by the jokes, because every person is exactly that, an individual.",
">Waaaah comedy is about punching up, not down.\n\nNo. It isn't.",
"I don’t care if you found it funny, keep watching it. I don’t get mad at people for watching Young Sheldon either. \n\nBut I’m not obligated to find it funny, nor am I obligated to not point out that Dave is a bigot.",
"True. But Joe Rogan isn’t simply saying “hey there’s some guy who has this opinion.” \n\nHe has Neil degrass Tyson on his show one week and Alex Jones the next week. It gives false equivalency to the views and gives a platform to people advocating for terrorism.",
"This was not in a sketch where he was playing a character. This was in his latest special. It's the reason people are upset.",
"We've all had thoughts about killing and dismembering a certain someone. Most of us aren't actively racist or bigoted about it, though; we choose our victims based on how annoying they are, not the color of their skin or the state of their genitals. It's dark humor to joke about purely hypothetical murder.",
"That was what I meant by sketch. It's my own fault.",
"I'm starting to think that nobody is actually trying to cancel Chappelle and that he's pushing the narrative that people are trying to censor him because a lot of people just didn't think his latest special was that funny and his feelings got hurt.",
"And you are 100% free to feel and do that.",
"Low hanging fruit implies a joke that’s easy to make and obvious. Punching down is about status.\n\nThese two things aren’t even really related. A comedian belittling a McDonald’s employee could be really clever but punching down, meanwhile you could make a joke about Jeff Bezos’s bald head and you’re punching up with some low hanging fruit.",
"Yeah, comedians should only be allowed to make jokes about powerful people and organisations! \n\nGreat plan, bub.",
"And the people in power want us to have terminal cancer just so we can’t challenge them, instead we’ll fight them by directly supporting them and their initiatives.",
"Dude go online. So many respond with “did you even watch the special” every time someone dares to accuse Dave of transphobia lol",
"I’m calling Dave a dick",
"The only platform, according to him, that didn't turn him down after all the uproar. Sure, it's a big one, but are we really saying just because this wasn't 100% effective that there's nothing to worry about at all? Seems simplistic.",
"“There should be minimal government interferences, in a free market corporations will do the right things based solely on trying to make money by pleasing consumers” - yeah, brother right wing economics ftw\n\n“Corporations are not offering someone a platform to try and get money by pleasing consumers” - fucking libtards…",
"If only that were the whole of it.",
"Here's a hint: when he said he pushed his friend away because he's transphobic, that was a joke.",
"It shouldn't be, that's the problem, satire should be punching up but it's caught up In popularism and punching down to be in with the hate",
"https://youtu.be/rCqiKLHHMTY",
"George Carlin makes a very good point comedians should be focusing on people of power… which is exactly what he did, the community he spoke about had too much power over his life and others lives to the point one of their own, Dave’s friend, killed themselves because of it, so yes Dave was right and George is right.",
"It makes me sad seeing how divided you guys are lately.",
"yeah, Chapelle is nowadays oh so misunderstood by the trans, but where are the American comedians taking on the military and the police?",
"Jesus. The Chapelle brigade is on high alert!\n\nI saw him live about 6 months ago. The entire second half of the set- like 45 minutes - was about trans people. It wasn't funny and was hardly attempting to be funny. Soapbox is accurate. I was really uncomfortable with how consumed he was by the issue.",
"haha, good one.",
"Y’all take everything a stand up comedians says during a show literally?",
"When Trans people are insecure they get anxiety. Which can lead to depression and other mental health issues.\n\nWhen Tucker Carlson friends are insecure they get anxiety. Which can lead to violent and hatred against minorities like Trans people, giving them anxiety.",
"I've seen intensely heinous shit on the louder with crowder sub. There's no way to reasonably engage that.",
"Netflix did remove an episode of Community, so they have censored in the past.",
"NBC or who ever owns the rights to community can broadcast it on their own streaming service or buy a projector and play the mother fucker on the nearest concrete wall. Censorship would be when the government threatens to jail the Netflix CEO's for broadcasting community. How fucking hard is this to understand? Private businesses choosing their content is their right and not censorship. FUCK",
">If you’re arguing you can’t be made fun of, that’s pretty damn privileged. If you have the ability as a group to get someone censored or blacklisted for saying something you don’t like, that’s pretty damn privileged.\n\nRight, black people have been the most privileged people in existence.\n\nWhen Trans people have laws put against them to keep them from transitioning what do you think this means?\n\nPunching down isn't going against groups that can't fight back. People have always been able to fight back. When people trying to give black Americans equal rights were up against the likes of hardcore segregationists the racists were still punching down even when rights supporters were pushing against them.\n\nWhen you're a comedian that makes up lies to slander the trans community, lying about why his \"friend\" (they were never very close) killed themselves and even holding a separate service without inviting the victims trans friends, what does this tell you? What does it tell you he profits off of giving pundits more material to make a vulnerable group that faces constant harassment more misery?",
"> TERF\n\nI watched the whole special and had no fucking clue what a TERF is.\n\nI looked it up.\n\nThat isn't what he says in the special at all.\n\nSo all the people here using \"TERF\" may need to hold their fucking horses, in my opinion.\n\n---\n\nFor clarity: he says that if you look up what a feminist is in the dictionary (just that one word) you will find a definition that he fits himself. From that, he proclaims himself one, and continues with that line of thought throughout the rest of the special. That is not the same thing as TERF, as far as I can tell.",
"It is funny, just its only funny if you are watching it looking to laugh. If you're not interested in laughing and instead are taking notes on how to attack him for what he says in it, looking for anything you can call out and be angry at, then of course you're not going to laugh much.",
"You can make jokes about anything, but the trick here is that the joke has to be funny, not just a bigoted rant like Dave \"I'll smoke wherever I want to and fuck everyone else\" Chapelle.",
"Maybe if he knows that, then he should stop talking about trans people in special after special.",
"Agreed. Chappelle should take note from the legend Carlin. I think Chappelle is a very insecure guy who is projecting his insecurities onto others and feels threatened. If it was funny that’s a different story, but I don’t find it funny seems like he has some underlying hostility there that maybe he doesn’t even realize or understand",
"No, because none of this is as stupid as the strawman you're attacking.",
"Being free to say what you want doesn't mean freedom from consequences. If the free market decides they don't want to serve up whatever bullshit is bubbling out of Dave Chapelle's mouth, then I'm sure he'll find someone else willing to work with him.",
"Says the little troll from pcm?",
"Well you see here the way it works is that you can't 'punch down.'\n\nWhat does it mean to punch down? Well it means anybody below you in social power. What does it meant to below you in social power? Well people who are poorer than you, have disabilities or sicknesses, face discrimination, oppression, etc,.\n\nWhich basically means you can only mock mentally healthy, upper-class, white cisgender men. Anything else is bigotry.",
"The difference is that feminists aren't actually the butt of the joke there, he never said that they're wrong for finding that stuff offensive. \nHe says that it doesn't take a lot of imagination to piss off a feminist, this makes fun of how stupid and simplistic the mind of a bigot is more than it makes fun of anything else. \n\nThe rest of the joke is just general irreverence, he never actually targets the beliefs of the feminist movement in the way that Chappelle attacks trans people when he says that he's \"team TERF\" and that \"gender is a fact\". \nChappelle is straight up saying that trans people are wrong and stupid, Carlin didn't do anything of the sort regarding feminists.",
"It's only bigotry if it's without a good reason.",
"So what in your opinion constitutes being 'cancelled'?",
"> Second, consider how privileged you must be if you don't have to worry about your identity being a punchline.\n\nWhose identity isn't a punchline? I can't think of a single demographic who has not been mocked by comedians before.",
"> punch down to be the laziest of the craft\n\nEh I think it's the opposite. Comedians who mock rich and powerful people are pretty lazy. Everybody likes to mock the rich and powerful people. Because comedians often pander to the lowest demographic, \"the people.\"\n\nGreat comedians are able to mock the audience. The lower class, the average joe. Comedy can often be used for introspection.\n\nPart of being a mature adult is being able to handle sometimes being the butt of the joke.",
"I’m not sure mandating that everyone abide by the preferred pronouns of certain individuals falls under “party who wants people to do what they want” unless the **they** refers to the **party** as opposed to the **people**.",
"Sorry, what part of my comment is the strawman?",
"Checks out",
"Zero replies I see.\n\nFolks really do just wants to put up heinous imaginary enemies, rail against them and feel like they’re fighting for justice.\n\nThat’s social justice for ya. And warriors of such persuasion come from all political sides.",
"You should not expect support from a comedian for your particular issues. \n\nHowever, jokes are relative to the stomach of the audience, and will always dictate how they are perceived.\n\nReading the room is real and great jokes can deal with talking to the room about any subject if the comedian is present enough to understand it.\n\nIn addition, the common audience just doesn't always get what's so funny right away.\n\nComedy is a fluid thing and should not be entered into the tomes of time as the truth when it's meant to just make people laugh about whatever the fuck is happening right now.",
"Well he did say he was going to stop talking about it in 'The Closer', right? I guess I would suggest watching it instead of commenting from the sidelines.",
"The part that implies that people who tell others not to punch down are crazy and unreasonable and want to totally codify every social interaction. \n\nIn reality, not punching down is a totally normal social expectation, it's just being a halfway decent person and it's not complicated at all to fogure out what is and isn't inappropriate if you have any social skills whatsoever.",
"Pratchett said it as well, satire should be about punching up, if you're using satire to punch down then you're just bullying.",
"Haha I hope Dave keeps tossing these bangers out, could watch you guys froth for years",
"You are a fool and that’s why you’re being downvoted into oblivion. Your views are antiquated and you should be ashamed.",
"Saying things conservatives have been saying about trans people for decades on stage is also not comedy. There is a set Kat Williams did on evolution, for example. And you can quite clearly see and hear people laughing like its the funniest thing in the world. The thing is, these are not jokes. Everything that comes out of his mouth are just classic creationist pseudoarguments that he screams at the public. If you have ever come into contact with creationist material this will instantly be obvious to you. And the same goes for Chapelles specials. It just anti trans nonsense he tries to tell in a funny way.",
"Anybody say Chapelle?",
"Show me where I said that? This is the problem with everyone that is outraged - you're putting words, meanings, and intend where they aren't.",
"If you think Carlin wouldn’t be on Dave’s side you do *not* know Carlin’s comedy. Wow... \n\nCarlin would not only fight tooth and nail for Dave’s right to say what he does, he would outright support Dave, and would likely have loved The Closer. \n\nThere’s a *wealth* of Carlin standup, books, etc., you really should dive into if you think Carlin would be against Dave. Carlin was as offensive, aggressively anti-pc, and inappropriate as it gets, and stepped way over the line as much as Dave, if not more.",
"Based on Carlin's comments about Andrew Dice Clay in this video (\"I would defend to the death his right to do everything he does.\" \"Obivously, he should do what he wants.\"), I think Carlin would've critiqued Chapelle's work similar to the way he critiqued Andrew Dice Clay's (\"The thing I find unusual, and it's not a criticism so much, but his targets are underdogs.\"), but would also have critiqued Chapelle's most vocal detractors. \n\nThe issue for them is often not \"the words that were said were not funny\"(criticism) but rather \"the words that were said should not be said\" (censorship).",
"Why hon?",
"Here's a 20 year old Kids in the Hall skit that satirizes this stuff.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/n1tFbZ5kaY8\n\nHell, here's a 50 year old clip that satirized the type of people that complain about this stuff.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/ygNnyHZ12cs\n\nI just read a story about 3 kids who just spent a year living alone with the corpse of their dead brother before someone discovered how they were living. It's probably the worst thing i've read in months yet i've seen this clip and a dozen other clips about Dave Chappelle being cancelled because he may or may not have said something possibly transphobic. No one can make up their minds or come to any kind of consensus about it but people are outraged apparently.\n\n1991 roughly is the year the US turned queer politics mainstream and the LGBTQ label was imposed on people. Hollywood had no problem using trans people for decades as the butt of their jokes and making gay people look like effeminate stereotypes before turning around and marking them as a protected class that now apparently has higher precedence than 'black people'.\n\nI saw a comment the other day that called Dave Chappelle a racist because he's rich so somehow that makes him 'white' according to this person's logic.\n\nSo on the social ladder of oppressed people, is there perks or boosts or something?\n\nLike if a black guy has a good credit limit or their boss listened to Tupac in the 90s, does that rank them higher?\n\nCongratulations, you've achieved whiteness!\n\nYou get a print out license that you put on your car so cops don't shoot you. The downside is that valet parking is no longer friends with you and your radio only plays easy listening.",
"> Private businesses choosing their content is ... not censorship\n\nIncorrect. It can be censorship.\n\n> Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information. This may be done on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or \"inconvenient\". Censorship can be conducted by governments, **private institutions**, and other controlling bodies. \n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship\n\nEg.\n\n> Censorship, the suppression of words, images, or ideas that are \"offensive,\" happens whenever some people succeed in imposing their personal political or moral values on others. Censorship can be carried out by the government **as well as private pressure groups.** Censorship by the government is unconstitutional. \n\nhttps://www.aclu.org/other/what-censorship\n\nEg.\n\n> The Motion Picture Production Code was **a set of industry guidelines for the self-censorship of content** that was applied to most United States motion pictures released by major studios from 1934 to 1968. It is also popularly known as the Hays Code, after Will H. Hays, who was the president of the Motion Picture Producers and Distributors of America (MPPDA) from 1922 to 1945. Under Hays's leadership, the MPPDA, later known as the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) and now simply the Motion Picture Association (MPA), adopted the Production Code in 1930 and began rigidly enforcing it in mid-1934. The Production Code spelled out what was acceptable and unacceptable content for motion pictures produced for a public audience in the United States. \n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Production_Code",
"**[Censorship](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship)** \n \n >Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information. This may be done on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or \"inconvenient\". Censorship can be conducted by governments, private institutions, and other controlling bodies. Governments and private organizations may engage in censorship.\n \n**[Motion Picture Production Code](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Production_Code)** \n \n >The Motion Picture Production Code was a set of industry guidelines for the self-censorship of content that was applied to most United States motion pictures released by major studios from 1934 to 1968. It is also popularly known as the Hays Code, after Will H. Hays, who was the president of the Motion Picture Producers and Distributors of America (MPPDA) from 1922 to 1945. Under Hays's leadership, the MPPDA, later known as the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) and now simply the Motion Picture Association (MPA), adopted the Production Code in 1930 and began rigidly enforcing it in mid-1934.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)",
"Interesting that he says this type of humour appeals to adolescent males.\n\nUnfortunately, many of them never grow up.",
"I agree with this.",
"oh, my mistake..................................................................................................... .",
"The term 'punching down' is a ridiculous buzz word that implies that minorities or whoever is at the receiving end of the joke is somehow beneath other people. It's a term that patronizing people use to look down on other people they deem lesser than them.\n\n> In reality, not punching down is a totally normal social expectation, it's just being a halfway decent person and it's not complicated at all to fogure out what is and isn't inappropriate if you have any social skills whatsoever.\n\nCarlin was being asked about Andrew Dice Clay who was intentionally offensive. His character persona was playing a douchebag greaser misogynist who told dirty nursery rhymes. He was funny because he was offensive. That was the gimmick.\n\nWhat you said basically ignores any kind of context to browbeat people into conforming to safe PC language and if you even joke about it, you're horrible, deserve to be fired, socially excommunicated and treated like a pariah.",
"Nah you're transphobic pos",
">Take the n-word for example, it’s not just a word,\n\nThat is ludicrous.\n\nNo adult should have a no-no word.",
"I know you googled \" strawman argument \" and you still don't understand it.\n\nHow the FK do I make a strawman if I didn't specifically reply to anyone?",
">The difference is he is not picking on those groups\n\nBut to most people that doesn't matter. They see someone simply saying those words as picking on those groups.",
"When minority groups are more empowered than majority groups, are they really minorities? At what point do minority groups stop being considered as minority groups?",
"Nah that's not it.\n\nThanks for the contribution though",
"Because the LGBT community hasn't cancelled anyone before?\n\nIdiot.\n\nBro, Jussie Smollett knows how dumb cancel culture is he tried to make it up and he ALMOST succeeded.\n\nThere's power in being a victim.",
"Why would I intentionally watch something that would make me feel bad about myself? My ex favourite comedian shitting on my existence for the 3rd special in a row.",
">The term 'punching down' is a ridiculous buzz word that implies that minorities or whoever is at the receiving end of the joke is somehow beneath other people. It's a term that patronizing people use to look down on other people they deem lesser than them.\n\nIs it patronizing towards Jews to say that Hitler was punching down when he called Jews vermin? \n\n>He was funny because he was offensive. That was the gimmick. \n\nI'm not familiar with that person, I don't think it matters because we're having a more general conversation anyway. \n\nThe point is that if the joke is people who are offended, even if they have good reason to be offended, then that's a shitty mean-spirited joke. \n\n>What you said basically ignores any kind of context to browbeat people into conforming to safe PC language and if you even joke about it, you're horrible, deserve to be fired, socially excommunicated and treated like a pariah.\n\nI've said no such thing, you can joke about any topic, depending on what exactly the joke is. \nIf the joke is that bigots are dumb then that's funny, if the joke is that it's sometimes hard for cis people to understand trans people then that's totally fine too. \nIf the joke is that trans people are illegitimate and crazy then fuck you you fucking transphobe. \nIf the joke is that the people who call trans people illegitimate and crazy are dumb and use bad arguments, then that's totally fine again. \n\nIt's very simple and doesn't ignore context at all.",
"Explain to me how this clip doesn't apply to Dave then? This is quite a clear opinion from Carlin, it would be weird for him to suddenly have double standards for Dave when it comes to this stuff.\n\nOr maybe... you're just desperate to want a good comedian on your side, despite him having *clearly* the opposite opinion, as shown in this video?",
"Why are you commenting about something you haven't watched?",
"Not from what I have seen lately. Chappell just comes across like someone standing on a soap box preaching about how he is the *real* victin",
"Not sure where you are but that’s not mandated by law…",
"Glad you think so!",
"No?",
">The term 'punching down' is a ridiculous buzz word\n\nIt is. And of course the Reddit and Twitter outrage mob loves it. It now has the term to use that says \"you can't offend me, it's not fair!\" and is terribly misusing it.",
"He actually used the word cocksucker when he told the joke on tv once.",
"Well, but generally speaking, so mot even specifically regarding Chapelle and what he said here, some people finding something funny is not relevant to the question if it is right/wrong/morally reprehensible/not.\n\nThere are people who find torturing animals funny. There are people who find bullying people funny. That doesn't mean it's alright and can't/shouldn't be criticized.\n\nSo applying that to Chapelle: Just because somebody finds it funny, doesn't mean it's all good and right.",
"> Is it patronizing towards Jews to say that Hitler was punching down when he called Jews vermin?\n\nWhat part of that is a joke?\n\n> I'm not familiar with that person, I don't think it matters because we're having a more general conversation anyway.\n\nContext really does matter. Andrew Dice Clay was a bastard character. He was a Jewish guy pretending to be an Italian scumbag. This bit did not age well and personally it never was funny to begin with. This is 'punching down' on purpose.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/9l4JpI0nwf8\n\nHe did these nursery rhymes that were kind of funny briefly but it wore thin quick.\n\nThis was also right before PC 'rules' formed on what you could or couldn't say and there was a lot of media that was designed to be intentionally controversial to piss off the moral majority which was mostly Christian at the time.",
"This was pre-covid",
"People have been cooped up for the last 2 years bored stupid with only media mostly to keep them entertained. It's easy to get sucked into this tabloid controversy if you aren't careful.",
"LOL, nope. The rest is about his personal taste. But you can't argue with his moral integrity. He's right on the money, there.",
">no one is arguing to literally ban anyone from free speech.\n\nYou are an idiot.",
"LOL, nope. The rest is about his personal taste. But you can't argue with his moral integrity. He's right on the money, there.",
"Judging by your constant bewilderment at other people's responses, I'm guessing that reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.",
"Yes, I understand that many, many people like you are in favour of corporate censorship... just don't pretend George fucking Carlin is one of them, dipshit.",
"tvs where small back then",
"murdoch owns the majority of newspapers in the uk too, it's the exact same thing. Labour is to blame for everything, even though conservatives have been in power for literally 10+ years, going through 3 different priministers, and have basically made every major decision for that time. It honestly feel like I'm living in a dystopian 1 party country now.",
">a load of disgust and hateful views for certain races or classes of people, but said it was jokes \n> \n>what you just described is what 90% of comedy is\n\nGood god, what kinda comedy are you watching?",
">If a teacher stop's a bully from punching the quiet kid, it's actually the quiet kid that's privileged and has power over the bully\n\nThat's your argument. It's bullshit.",
"Could you elaborate? I'm interested in understanding your perspective on this.",
"They can shit in the right bathroom tho 🤔\n\nAnd noones stopping you from dressing like an idiot",
">What part of that is a joke?\n>\n\nWhat part of saying that you're team TERF and that gender is a fact is a joke? \n\nAnyway fine, I'll rephrase it if you want. \nIs it patronizing to say that Nazis in Nazi Germany were punching down when they made antisemitic jokes about Jews being vermin? \n\n>Context really does matter.\n\nI never said otherwise. \n\n>Andrew Dice Clay was a bastard character. He was a Jewish guy pretending to be an Italian scumbag.\n\nWell like I've said, if bigots are the butt of the joke then I have no problem with it. If he was making fun of Italian scumbags then that's fine by me. \n\nBased on that video though I don't really like his comedy, it may be the intent to make fun of the kinds of bigots who say stuff like that but I don't think it does a very good job of it, he's just saying random offensive stuff, but not really in a way that makes it extra obvious how dumb it is to say stuff like that. \nAt the end when he talks about aids it seems like he's just straight up unironically repeating a homophobic argument, not trying to make it sound like a dumb argument.",
"If we look at it as a group (White males), and you have one side appealing to their insecurities and then peddling hate and bigotry, the question is what are the other sides appealing to? What are they trying to peddle?",
"Why would the media groups, that are owned by the people in power, criticize the people in power?",
"I love how he starts by telling Larry that dice can do and should do whatever it is he wants (his right). Then he talks about punching down from a rich white drunk. \n\nI don’t understand how this is relevant to compare to Chappell. As dave even mentions and talks about how he isn’t punching down in his special. \n\nMany of the ppl who are channeling Carlin right now wouldn’t understand his bits and they wouldn’t sit and listen to him . His comedy wasn’t joke joke joke. A lot of introspection and reflection on society. Y’all tic tockers would turn it off after 10 min. He talked very fast and with very educated dictation. Tic tockers abbreviate spoken word. My friend a English professor talked about the new bunch of kids who speak in short half sentences , a grammatical nightmare. They’re not quoting Carlin.",
"remember how he told everyone to clean their rooms and get their house in order but he was living in a filthy house and addicted to drugs?\n\nhe's a charlatan.",
"https://youtu.be/uaDFJFP9OtE",
"When they pump up their rookie numbers chief.",
"The phenomenon you speak of is the echo chamber of social media. I don’t have Twitter or tic tok never seen it. Many ppl I know don’t either. But 24 hour news cycles use Twitter as a source to “make news”( they are manufacturing this , is its not news) . The issues brought up in social media are about 8% of the population bitching and complaining. Just as with trumpers you get a small contingent that’s willing to yell so loud it makes you think it’s much bigger. Social media does not represent our struggles. Gotta say comedy specials aren’t what keep me up at night. I’d sY the climate and the earth killing us is a bit higher on my agenda. \n\nIt’s not news, it’s nothing other than more distraction and division.",
"Yeh proud boys get together just as much out of loneliness than anything. These incels are begging for wives at this point. They feel hopeless . I mean they look hopeless too.",
"Yep, so he took advantage of the FrEe MaRket🥴 and booked arenas to show his doc at.",
"Carlin had a debilitating drug problem and severe depression issues. Money and status may provide a step stool, but it doesn’t magically lift you out of depression. I don’t think you’re giving him enough credit. Punching down means intentionally causing harm or denigrating someone who is weaker than you. Someone who is or has been suicidal or depressed is allowed to make jokes about it because they understand. That’s how humor works, it speaks to shared experience. \n\nDave Chapelle, rich and famous or not, is still very much a black man in America. He may be privileged now, but having money and status doesn’t magically lift him up above the reach of systemic racism. That was central to his whole point. Cancel culture is not a fair and balanced phenomena. Corporate interests will fall all over themselves to cancel the black comic in order to please the LGBTQ community, but if the roles were reversed, would the level of manufactured outrage be the same? \n\nSatire is satire. Jokes are jokes. Censorship is censorship. I think most people are on the same side of this issue, and they don’t even know it because they’re being manipulated by a monopolized information stream.",
"You can tell where the joke is when you hear the audience laugh. The more you know",
"You guys are more obsessed with Dave's special than his fans lmao.",
"Imagine watching comedy, and not laughing, but dissecting the joke",
"You're stupid af",
"You seem pretty angry at his reaction",
"It doesn’t matter what you said, it matters what Dave said, you Trumpy dipshit.",
"> Well like I've said, if bigots are the butt of the joke then I have no problem with it. If he was making fun of Italian scumbags then that's fine by me.\n\nThose are your rules though and who defines who is or isn't a bigot? An Italian person might take offense to you overlooking the negative stereotype because you think it's justified based on your personal biased attitudes of Italian people as 'scumbags'.\n\nSo now who is the bigot?\n\n> What part of saying that you're team TERF and that gender is a fact is a joke?\n\nYou're extremely simplifying what the guy said. He's a comedian. He talks a lot. I half assed watched his special and didn't hear anything really offensive but that's just my opinion.\n\n> Based on that video though I don't really like his comedy\n\nI don't either. That wasn't a good set but proves a point that none of this shit matters and no one actually gives a damn and the world goes on. Netflix benefits most from this as does the wall of tabloid media outlets exploiting the issue. For everyone else, it's just a distraction from anything more productive.",
"He also has a bit, as himself, where he claims he bought weed from a baby drug dealer then later saw the same baby inside a woman's vagina. Comedy bits are not supposed to be written out in text and judged literally.",
"Lmao Trumpy.",
"So the 1% is considered minority?",
"Which minority group is more empowered than the majority group then, in your opinion?",
"Please tell me where it is a popular policy position or advocacy to literally take away people's freedom of speech in the US.",
"I don't live in the US.\n\nYou live in a bubble world, dude.",
"Which side is defending Jan 6th again? \n\nIf your side is doing that then there’s nothing further to talk about",
"There’s some jokes about that very topic",
"\"You're\"\n\nYou are account?\n\nHoly shit you are a stupid child.",
"Durr durr",
">Those are your rules though and who defines who is or isn't a bigot?\n\nCongratulations on figuring out that morality is subjective! \n\nMorality being subjective doesn't mean that it's wrong for a person to have moral standards though, or to want society to conform to those moral standards. \n\nAre you really going to argue against the basic idea of having morals? \n\n>An Italian person might take offense to you overlooking the negative stereotype because you think it's justified based on your personal biased attitudes of Italian people as 'scumbags'.\n\nWhen did I say Italians are scumbags? \n\n>You're extremely simplifying what the guy said.\n\nNo I'm not, those were direct quotes and the full context does absolutely nothing to make them less shitty. \n\n>I half assed watched his special and didn't hear anything really offensive but that's just my opinion.\n\nWell maybe don't half-ass watch it next time if you're going to be arguing about it later.",
"Chapelle hasn't been funny since 05. \n\nChildren who were too young to actually watch chappelle in his prime and are just hearing the voices of the older generations saying \"he's the greatest\" makes up the largest part of his current audience.\n\nHe sucks a dick now.",
"Would you like to be in Dave Chappelle’s position right now? It seams like they have a lot of power.",
"Gen Z don't think anyone is funny, that's why there's no more new comedians and all of their youtubers/content creators are being canceled.\n\nYour point?",
"He’s doing just fine. 20 million dollars and a massive platform? Sure, I’ll be in his position.",
"I don't care about Dave Chappelle all that much. He's been a bitter rambling old man for a few years now. If it not trans people, it's me too or some other conspiracy theory. Fuck him.",
"That's a lot of words to say \"humor is up to personal discretion\", which everyone here knows already.\n\nNo jokes are off limits. If someone tells jokes you don't like, don't listen. Not all jokes are funny. The \"N-word\" is not a joke, it's a slur.\n\nThe \"nuance\" is that freedom of speech is a protected right in the US and this has upset a lot of people. It is up to the person who is offended to present their case that something should be reconsidered, not for the comedian to take all peoples' feelings into consideration and police themselves accordingly.\n\nIf you say that's what you are doing, I just think you've done it poorly. If that's not what you were trying to do, then I revert back to my previous position: \"nothing is above ridicule\". Less restrictive speech is objectively better than restricted speech.",
"That's a whato we callo bullshito!\n\nYour point? You state your stupid fucking opinion like it's fact and think I'm going to react to that oozing verbal dirrahea generalization you tout to be real?\n\nDIS GENRATION DONT DO DIS DERRRR\n\nGood job buddy.",
"Haha what a fucking ape you are. Civil discourse isn't your specialty.",
"He was a close talker",
"Pathetic\n\nNice projection dumbass\n\n\"YOU AINT GOT DEM LOGIC SKILLS\"\n\nSayeth the moron who makes a sweeping non-factual generalization and pretends it is unalienable truth.\n\nFuck off ya bitch",
"For all those comparing this to Dave. Keep in mind that at the time Carlin said this, minorities wielded no power other than being punching bags. Today we see these monitory groups wielding power enough to cancel celebrities. Dave’s special was about such as he compared himself and Carlin’s era of minorities to the current day minorities, specifically in the LGBTQ community in which his day had fighters and new what it was like to not be accepted so much so that hiding it was your best plan of action for life. Fast forward now and you have the same group who fought their way out of oppression for this current era of LGBTQ just for them to want to oppress others. It’s well known once your study the psychology of sociology that the oppressed to want to become the oppressors when given the opportunity. It’s happened for millennia in all facets of societies and we’re witnessing the cycle continue.",
"Hell yeah brother!",
"\"He should do what he wants.\" Is the real take away. It may not be for you, just don't watch it. A true capital L Liberal.\n\nGeorge Carlin was an advocate for free speech and hated those who changed language. \n\nhttps://youtu.be/o25I2fzFGoY\n\nRipped on those who thought certain subjects were not meant for comedy. \n\nhttps://youtu.be/fwMukKqx-Os",
"You don’t know it is a leap. You don’t know the extent of their relationship but from what he shared they were very close. He knew her well enough to make that judgement call. She also made it several times during similar instances when she was alive. It’s not that conplicated",
"source: reddit",
"Only one \"side\" preaches dangerous revolutionary ideology. \n\nThe other side wants like, a safe world for their families and a safe functioning society. You know. Helpful shit.",
"Then stop making judgments on US politics and media personalities if you don't comprehend our culture.",
"\"my ideological enemy is worse than me.\"\n\n-very self aware man",
"I don't moderate them",
"George Carlin was fucking brilliant!",
"So glad comedians didn’t run with this at all lmfao",
"lol so wrong open up your eyes amigo if it was the consensus then there wouldn't be so many of them",
"90% of the world is racist and would call you gay slurs if they met you in person. \n\n\"consensus viewpoints\" are not formed on liberal social networks. Try traveling sometime.",
"Thanks for letting everyone know you don't know what \"consensus\" means lol.",
"The whole special is odd.\n\nLike you say, there is a whole section where there just arent jokes. I felt like i was watching a middle aged guy shamefully complaining about getting shouted at on twitter.\n\nFinishing off the special with \"dont punch down on my people\" meaning comedians felt super tone deaf. \n\nWhich was odd as again, he made some great points about the oppression of black people.",
"I never said that most of the world wasn't racist lol. I said that the consensus viewpoint is that the alt-right are insecure little freaks.",
"No one disagreed with that",
"You’re confused.",
"Just because you double down on a false equivalency doesn't make it less false. Trump's own FBI has noted right wing extremists are the biggest threat to our country. Left wing extremists didn't make the cut.\n\nFor an org with a storied history of bashing and infiltrating left wing groups, that is pretty damning confirmation of, you know, all the other data we see on a regular basis. \n\nThere simply isn't a left wing version of Cville or Jan 6th.",
"Your insults have no value",
"I'm not sure if this is in reference to my post, but I was... you know... *asleep*. *Because it was nighttime*. I've responded all over the place here. \n\nThe right doesn't have interest in social justice. That's why it's the right.",
"Exactly. The gas lighting is strong with them. It is literally the behavior of an abuser. Which isn't surprising, given their chosen leader.",
"Source, Trump's own FBI. Uh oh.",
"You seam determined to miss the point so no worries.",
"You guys elected someone to potus with explicit calls for bigoted racist policies. That was his platform. That is your policy identity. \n\nPicking a pamphlet from a violent anarchist and saying it is indicative of dem's policies is inaccurate. We didn't put that guy in the whitehouse, or elect dozens like him to congress. Bernie or Jayapal are as left as they get, and the left wing of the party is united in nonviolence as a position. \n\nAgain, you keep doubling down on this false equivalency and it just further highlights how silly it is as a comparison. You can reply, but I guarantee you it will just repeat this interaction. \n\nThe parties are in very, very different places re political violence and bigotry. Indeed, they have been since the 1960s, when the civil rights act restructured them nationally.",
"Like I said, they're \"peddling\" universal pre k and solar panels. Terrifying.",
"You looking kinda bitchmade for complaining about others not responding to a point fast enough, but getting bodied and not responding either.",
"Look at Dave Chapelle for example getting cancelled right and left currently due to LGBT and especially transgender community having issues with him pointing out that the transgender community probably caused his transgender friend to commit suicide.",
"They have a recent historty of participating in every right wing terror plot they've \"thwarted.\"\n\n>There simply isn't a left wing version of Cville or Jan 6th\n\nLol. You sleep through summer 2020?",
"\"Trans person says guy I like has taken swipes at trans people, but I'm too blinded by privilege to hear it, ergo trans person must be talking out their ass.\"\n\nWell done. Plug your ears harder and keep *LALALALA*ing rather than face even the possibility there's a problem....🙄",
"You're shifting the conversation from your mistake",
"You could always explain it to me like I’m five?",
"Who is they? The FBI? Do you... know how going undercover works? \n\nSummer 2020 was almost entirely peaceful. Turn off the OANN my dude. It'll rot your brain.",
"This is an incredibly over simplified and misleading take, but it sounds like you're set on disliking the guy. You can think that if you'd like.",
"Consensus means \"general agreement\", I think you may not understand what it means. If you think there is worldwide general agreement that alt-right are bunch of insecure children you are..idk, obviously wrong? How do you explain the billions of people who are supportive of that movement?",
"> I believe he's developed a genuine paranoia towards the LGBTQ community. \n\nAm sure a reddit Armchair psychologist know what their talking about.",
"Ain't that the Trans community for not being able to take a joke?",
"Almost all of you have never actually listened to a JRE podcast in entirety, you have only heard short clips edited and/or narrated by others which are often taken out of context by those with an agenda. \n\nYour loss, he has had tons and tons of fascinating and brilliant guests on through the years. And on the show they speak candidly about things and opinions that are not usually allowed to be talked about by the corporate press.\n\nBut you have been told to hate Rogan by others so you do just that.\n\nIf you want to expand your horizons a bit and challenge what you think and know, I recommend the Jimmy Dore Show or Breaking Points on YouTube. Both easy to watch/listen, totally different but really have challenged the mainstream narratives. \n\nEdit: Lex Fridman podcast also good",
"That seems like a weird joke to pick. It was an argument for using the bathroom for the gender you present as. Which is pro-trans people, as the opposite is where you have to use gender assigned at birth.",
"> You're taking the worst sides of the right and comparing it to the best sides of the left.\n\nThe mainstream right is bad enough to criticize without even talking about the real nutjobs.",
"Nobody in the government is mandating that. It would violate the first amendment.\n\nNow private organizations are free to force you to behave a certain way to participate with them...",
"The butt of this joke, and the entire bit, is not people suffering from those eating disorders. The butt of this joke is the American/Western society that has a very comfortable life to the extent that our problems are not food insecurities (obviously we had serious problems with food insecurities then and still do now), but instead eating disorders in a world of plenty.\n\nI'm not saying I agree with this bit or this piece of his material, but I don't think he was targeting people with eating disorders. He was targeting society as a whole.",
"C'mon....there isn't a way to reframe this to where it's \"punching up\", it's not some crazy satire. That being said, \"punching up/vs down\" has no real effect on the quality of comedy (I will bet my life on it, all of your favorite comics routinely \"punch down\" but y'all don't get mad because making fun of those not in positions of power isnt always crossing a line. It's an audience safety vs violation of norms thing. It's when the audience doesn't feel 'safe' that jokes start feeling mean), and Carlin could \"punch down\" all he wants. But let's not try and do some brain gymnastics to make it seem like all of our old favorites were exclusively the most ethical and fighting the good fight all of the time. They were telling jokes that \"punched\" in all directions, they just had a good grasp of safety vs violation. That's why Carlin's 7 words you can't say bit is so famous",
"Can they be joked *about*? Yes, *but* you shouldn't do so in a way that's targeting them. The joke should not be at their expense.",
"What anger directed towards minority groups? Do you actually see it like that ? I think the news is more so directed at being angry towards incompetent government which nobody should be upset about.",
"What a shit take. Satire should not be exclusively used to criticize a perceived majority. The underdog is not always correct and can/should be lightly mocked in satire if need be.",
"No sound sweeter to me than [hearing Norm say \"cock\"](https://youtu.be/x2rcquwo4R0?t=109)",
"Every comedian is going to have a black spot in their history. This is what you call a lesson. What material bombed and what struck gold.",
"\"mostly peaceful\" \n\nLOL\n\n[when memes become real](https://www.nationalreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/CNN-Mostly-Peaceful.jpg?fit=960%2C527)",
"Well, seeing how most people are talking past me, and aren't even looking at what I'm saying that you've already decided to be offended about what someone else has said as long as they don't agree with you that the special is good. My comment was not even about the special, it was about the idea that if you attack a minority group (regardless of whether or not the special did that) and you face backlash that means that minority group holds the power in society.\n\nThe idiot I responded to just suggested that making fun of white people is punching down and making fun of trans people is punching up, you people are full of shit.",
"Covid wasn’t a problem…idk",
"It's all the same BS, different talking heads.",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XASNM1XEQPs",
"It's really not that difficult to figure out if you should be making someone the butt of a joke or not if you have an ounce of empathy...",
"Rogan is full of shit. Get a clue before you're full of shit too.",
"While what Carlin said is technically true, the legitimate usage of those words is *incredibly* rare within the context of racial descriptors. \n\nI mean, nobody cares about the word \"slope\" in general (it's just an incline) but when you're applying it in a racial sense there's not a lot of room for interpretation of your intent.",
"I think you've mistaken punching down with punching at minor groups",
"Meh, \"punching up\" vs \"punching down\" is a load of horsehit in my opinion. However, it's not that what people are getting at that doesn't exist, it's just framed way wrong. What makes good comedy is the dichotomy of \"safety vs violation\". If you wanna put in a joke with a huge violation of social norms, you have to frame it to make the audience feel extra safe. One of the easiest ways to do this is \"punch up\". Cuz you can say some absolutely untethered shit to people in power without the audience feeling unsafe. But also, just filling your set with nothing but safety and no violation results in a set that's filled with \"clapter\". Audiences now feel much more culturally unsafe than 10 years ago, so jokes need to either turn up the safety if they wanna violate more (Michelle wolf, Aziz Ansari), or they need to scale back the violation to do safer comedy (Nate bargatze, John Mulaney). A horse walks into a bar and the bartender says \"why the long face\".....who did I just punch and in which direction? The answer is, humor isn't as cut and dry as what Pratchett says. There's great jokes that \"punch up\", despite what people may think I can go through almost anyone's catalogue and find examples of funny jokes that \"punch down\" (Carlin did it a LOT), and there's even more that aren't \"punching\" at all, which only goes to show me that the \"punch\" isn't really a necessary thing for comedy to work, and it's not what makes it funny or unfunny. Jokes that you say aren't funny cuz they're mean and \"punch down\" include too much violation to make you feel safe as an audience member, and THATS what made it not funny.\n\nEdit: also just for the record, my intent here isn't to be confrontational. I'd much prefer conversation to upvotes/downvotes",
"Plenty of conservatives seemed to think The Colbert Report wasn't satire too.",
"No, that is what \"birds of a feather\" means. \"Birds of a feather flock together\" means \"these people I am comparing have X in common, therefore they do/say/think the same things.\" If that's not what you meant, you chose the wrong idiom.",
"My recollection was that most of the fatal violence then was from right wing counter protesters like Rittenhouse. Or the police. \n\nBut hey, I only watch real news. So it makes sense you'd disagree and then respond with sophomoric shitposts.",
"I'm not saying you moderate them. I'm saying you follow the very strict line those pathetic moderators set and then have to temerity to mouth off about groupthink.\n\nIt's like the pot calling the kettle the n word.\n\nYou're a zealot. A total utter cretin.",
"> The people who get infuriated at anybody being offended by anything are a million times more whiny.\n\nSomething something pot, something something kettle.",
"I mean to be fair, a lot of what I saw was people telling him \"You aren't allowed to say that\" in articles stating that just because he had a trans friend doesn't give him the right to talk about the trans community. So yeah, some people literally are trying to stop him being able to talk about them.",
"OLIVE DEEZ NUTS IN YOUR MOUTH.\n\n Glad we can at least agree that community is a great show, but it’s time to log off and hand over the password.",
"How does it feel to get outraged by something or someone when you haven't even been bothered to check if what someone told you is even true? How does it feel to be such a hateful, sad little creature? \n\nStep one, watch what he actually says. But you won't even do that. Until you do, there's no reason for anyone at all to take anything you say seriously, you're just parroting. \n\nYou're no better than fucking alt-right morons who take anything some blogger tells them as the truth. Let that sink in, please.",
"Comedians make fun of everyone, not only those of power. Comedians are not great philosophers (as some of them think they are), they are entertainers that make people laugh and once in a while make a point with more substance. \n\nAnd funnily enough LGBTQ are the people with power right now (this post is clearly meant as a response to Chapelle). So the comedians need to make fun of them (especially the T's and Q's). Just look at the backlash at even the slightest hint of disagreement with any of their views. That's what power looks like. They may be minorities and without power in a lot of places, but not in western media.",
"I’m not doing the whole thing again, but you can go through the thread of annoying messages u/joevaded and I sent back and forth to each other below if you want more.",
"What a compelling argument.",
"OOooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh",
"Yeah he was",
"I understand the situation and that really sucks to hear, but if someone is that suicidal they need help. Going to a comedy club is probably one of the worst places to go if you're in that state of mind. In the same token you could also say any avenue of entertainment could offer the same stuff, movies and TV even music can glorify suicide.",
"Little Miss Muffet, sat on a tuffet\n\nEating her curds and whey\n\nAlong came a spider\n\nWho sat down beside her\n\nAnd said, \" Hey, what's in the bowl bitch?\"\n\n&#x200B;\n\n&#x200B;\n\nTruly destroying Americas moral fabric.",
"No, you’re just wrong. Saying that they have certain things in common does not mean they are literally equivalent, and it doesn’t mean they say and do the exact same things. You’re confused about what the idiom means.",
"Unnamed super intellectual technique to stammering and saying \"um\" and \"uh a lot? SIGN ME UP!\n\nBut seriously, he did have an actual stutter, it's not something he did on purpose. He did have these filler words and filler phrases he would use. Sometimes they're called \"hesitation phrases\" and often times are used to give yourself more time to think about your response without having to look like you're thinking about it.\n\nOne more specific intellectual thing he would do is a redirection phrase or a strategic rejoiner. But psychologists also think of using this kind of a phrase as a verbal tic. An example of this would be \"that's a great question\" and it's used when you don't want to answer a certain question and you want to shift over to something you'd rather talk about.",
"Yeah but instead of trying to appeal you're just arrogantly saying \"the stuff I'm peddling is good, it's your job to know that and support me.\" Which isn't really working. \n\nYou're barely breaking even against actual nazis, everything maybe your strategy is could use some refinement?",
"Ok, before we go off on a tangent with no idea what’s going on. \n\nWhat Dave say that made him “canceled”?",
"To the people saying you're wrong, they clearly didn't listen to this clip or the other clips from this interview. He clearly states that he defends any comedians right to make jokes about anything, even if he doesn't like their material.\n\nAs a life long fan of standup comedy and someone who has nothing but empathy and compassion, I am extremely saddened by how upset people are by Dave Chappelle's standup. Being offended is something we should be afraid of, it's all subjective. What offends me may not offend you, what offends you may not offend me.",
"Hey at least you have the decency to actually share your real dog shit opinion.\n\nI can tell ur just being a dick for the first part.\n\nSecond part is blatantly false there are tons of schools and organizations that will not allow trans people to wear appropriate clothes.",
"Yes, *general* agreement. Do you know what “general” means? There does not need to be total unanimity for consensus to exist. Look it up if you don’t believe me!\n\nFWIW, it is likely wild exaggeration to say that there are “billions” who support the alt-right. But in any event, there are almost 8 billion people in the world.",
"This isn't a matter of opinion, there is no question that that is exactly what the idiom means. Maybe take this as a lesson about not speaking in clichés.",
"You realize that Democrats wildly outnumber Republicans and their policies are much more popular, right? The GOP is relevant only because of structural issues with our representative government. The senate, and to a lesser degree the house, are not doing a good job representing the will of the US people. The Republicans haven't won the popular vote for potus in decades. \n\nI could go on and on. The United States is a slightly center left populace, proportionally spreaking. Nothing close to say, Denmark, but the vast majority of democratic policy proposals are super, super popular. Unfortunately half our congress represents land and not people.",
"I agree that this isn’t a matter of opinion, but you’re literally just wrong lol. Look it up:\n\nhttps://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/birds-of-a-feather\n\nIt’s pretty funny that you apparently think that this idiom is only used to describe people who are literal clones of each other.",
"I’m really not!",
"Equal treatment? Are there comedians going around saying they're against people who identify with the gender assigned at birth?",
"Trump's own FBI noted right wing radials are the biggest national security threat facing us currently.",
"Trump’s own FBI? I don’t think they had the best relationship lol.\n\nYour post reminds me of when they tallying up terrorism deaths and pushing the homegrown terrorist narrative, they always seem to start counting in October of 2001.",
"Dice is kind of an enigma. He's like walking satire. Did he actually make fun of women, or is he making fun of people who make fun of women?",
"Just because you don't like it or agree with it doesn't invalidate it as comedic material. It's literally all subjective, what you find offensive and repugnant others may find hilarious. For instance, I can't sit through a church sermon without cracking up, it's all such a crock of shit and those people cling to every word like it's all true, thinking an hour every Sunday wipes away their bad deeds. I'm no creationist and I am pro trans rights, but to deprive comedians of their right to poke fun at what they want is just wrong.\n\nIt flies in the face of free speech. We can't suppress comedians rights to make fun of things we don't like, that's tyranny and is ironically what we accuse the right of. I fucking despise Dennis Miller and his shitty right wing comedy, but I'd never say he'd have to be cancelled because I don't like it.",
"Saka Soufflé?",
"Thank you rofl. \n\nMan who made tens of millions of dollars reaching hundreds of millions on the worlds largest media platform is \"censored\" apparently. Christ on a cracker people are insane.",
"Have you ever watched Joy Reid on MSNBC or Brian Stelter on CNN? They do the same thing on the left.",
"I think the problem is that people don’t understand that comedy is an art form. Don’t take what the comedian says seriously. They aren’t politicians or people of influence. They are court jesters. They are artists. No one is getting mad at Picasso for painting weird shit. They interpret his art. If you feel a certain way about what a comedian is saying, don’t blame the comedian. Try to understand why your interpretation of what the comedy represents as an idea about society and get mad at that. People being pissed off about comedians are completely misdirected. You should be pissed off at the people who take what they say literally. I’m tired of comedians having to apologize for their art. Saying boundary pushing thought provoking ideas in a non serious comic sense is literally their job.",
"I agree he has had interesting guests but that doesn't negate anyone who has an issue with his other statements or content. No one told me to hate Joe Rogan, I simply didn't like his style of interview and then I found some of his guests to be somewhat reprehensible. \n\nLike on guy is a ufo quack and a convicted prostitution ring culprit. Another once said \"Arabs like to blow stuff up and live in open sewage.\" And also claimed inherent evil in said group.\nOr being best buds and promoting a guy who tells people *thier children weren't murdered but are actors and their cries on TV are fake*\n\nEverything aside - that last point alone is enough for me to flat out not respect him. No way am I staying friends with someone who does that and I don't think that is a very unreasonable decision.\n\n\nAnd this isn't even counting his libratarian views on health that he profits off of since a lack of trust in our institutions of health increases the chances of people buying his sponsored alternative nutrition and health products. I think his chat with Bill bur about covid19 was pretty interesting. \n\nSure, I have found some clips funny and I'm not saying that every single podcast is evil. But I don't trust a person that constantly goes \"Don't listen to me, I'm and idiot\" and then also ignores the impact of having such a platform that *broadcasters and advertisers pay for*\n\nSometimes a lot of people not liking something is not due to a hivemind of propaganda but simply multiple people coming to similar conclusions.\n\nYou don't have to respond to any points but if you do, in the effort of good faith and brevity I will focus on his platforming of Alex Jones:\nA man he promoted that denies grieving parents their dead children and monetized it.\n\n Only a coward or moral incompetent would keep such a friend in their life. \n\nWhat is your opinion on this single point?",
"I'm assuming this was toward the end of his career. He got pretty dark (even for him) toward the end.",
"Hickory Dickory Dock…",
"They pretty much did whatever he wanted for 4 years. That's why it is so surprising, and such a damning fact in debunking the \"bOtH sIDes r ViOleNt\" narrative.",
"General agreement means basic unanimity, it literally says it in the dictionary when describing “consensus”. You are wrong semantically (who cares) but also wrong generally, there is very much an ebb and flow of support for the alt right with no side having complete hegemony as you would suggest. Reddit and some media would have you believe alt right thinking is some fringe group but they are large and convincing to many, many people. Belittling them will not make it go away.",
"\"okay\" is ambiguous and makes this a tough question to answer. Off the cuff, yeah it's totally okay to say whatever you want, and people are entitled to whatever reaction they have. \n\nChapelle said in his latest special that if you're offended, this isn't for you and you can just walk away/ don't buy tickets (paraphrasing). I've been a lifelong fan of Chappelle and I'm actually not too interested in whatever he puts out next. \n\nPeople keep asking about my opinion on what he said, and if certain phrasing was right or wrong, and to me that overlooks the underlying issue that is making me fall out of love... The guy is a master wordsmith and has chosen a side. I'm not all too emotionally involved with the lgtbq community but reading between the lines and thinking of his motivations, my gut tells me he has a bone to pick. \n\nI preferred a comedy that flipped people's biases on their heads and made them question themselves, with the main goal still being to entertain, walking along the border/fringe of political correctness with social savvy. I think Chappelle's spent too much time online and landed into a thought silo like the rest of us, but he has a supreme social superpower. \n\nIn the words of uncle Ben, with great power comes great responsibility. It made me sad that today even our best thinkers can't resist putting themselves in a box.",
"You get hit over the head with a baseball bat of sarcasm when he calls himself team TERF, and you act like he is up there doing a TED talk, not a standup comedy show.",
"Even as you try to save face, you’re still qualifying “unanimity” with “basic”. Just take the L - consensus does not require unanimity. Seems like you’re tacitly acknowledging it at this point. You tried to score pedantic points, you failed, move on. \n\nI never said that belittling them would make them go away! All I’m doing is stating facts. They are absolutely insecure little freaks, and this is absolutely a consensus viewpoint.",
"Carlin didn't like being told what to say. His entire career was based off saying the things you weren't supposed to but that everyone knew was true.\n\nYou know, like saying that only a woman can be a woman. If Carlin was alive there would be no Dave Chappelle controversy. Because Carlin would have already made the same jokes.",
"I hate dice I always have. His comedy sucks and he's an arrogant asshole, I wouldn't be surprised if his fan base is non existent",
"Kenosha Wisconsin, you're on the air",
"I know right. It's like when people make jokes about gay porn. It's so weird. I mean, everyone loves gay porn. It cuts across all sections of society. Gay people, straight people, young people, old people...\n\n...but Andy, he really likes it.",
"That's not an argument.",
"How are we supposed to be inclusive, if we can't make jokes about the people we're supposed to be including?\n\nIf you wanted to join the pitch, you have to play the game, same as the rest of us.",
"Voter turnout has been abysmal and that's mainly been coming for left-leaning compliancy. \n\nI'm not the one you need to convince, I vote and I'm voting Democrat unless something wildly changes on the political landscape. \n\nHowever, you can't keep claiming your policies so popular among people who just don't vote and expect that to mean anything.",
"One, not outraged. That's just you making excuses to ignore anyone clearing their throat and calmly saying \"You know what? I'm not okay with this. This helps feed the attitudes at the root of a lot of real-world problems that I and a heck of a lot of people like me face. Please stop.\"\n\nBut I guess since that's harder to ignore, you need to try to paint those of us speaking up as shrill, irrational, and outrage driven. Sorry, that's just not the case. \n\nTwo, I've watched most of Chappelle's latest material - I skipped the last Netflix special because I got tired of Dave continually disappointing me with his insistence on feigning empathy as a setup to riff on the same old trans stereotypes repeatedly. Yeah, he probably doesn't do it out of malice, his intention may even be to make fun of the idiots that ignorantly cling to those stereotypes he keeps trotting out. Unfortunately, his intentions don't change the fact that day in and day out, I keep running into people using his words as validation for their own transphobia, sometimes with very real consequences that complicate my (already complicated enough) life. And even when this is brought to his attention, Dave just keeps on doing it and the consequences for people like me be damned, soooo....I just stopped watching him, and I speak up about why when the topic comes up.\n\nBut hey, thanks for the lecture -- I clearly need more cishet guys telling me my business.👍\n\n(And this is where you try to spin a tired sigh into more ignorable \"outrage\", isn't it?)",
"I think you're right. I think it was somewhere around 2002?",
"If you vote dem then they are just as much your policies as mine. I'm not sure why you think I'm Nancy Pelosi, but I'm not. \n\nI'm just a guy who doesn't hate other people based on their race, and who wants a functional healthcare system. Just like... most Americans.",
"I've listened to JRE since the early days of him and Redban and snowflake backgrounds. If you don't think he portrays exactly what Carlin was describing you're delusional. I started cutting back around the time he had Gavin McInnes as a guest, and completely jumped ship when Rogan started talking out of his ass regarding Covid. Bill Burr was actually the last episode I listened to in full.\n\nJoe, and more importantly his audience, are the very people Carlin was describing. I don't think Rogan is homophobic or racist, but he's playing to a certain audience for profit and it's gotten more and more noticeable in the past few years.",
"Rogan says some stupid stuff but he’s not so bad. He just rides the anti “cancel culture” schtick a little too hard. It’s sad to see Chappell doing it his entire last special. It can get ridiculous so a couple jokes is good but there’s so many comedians now who’s entire schtick is riffing on a “cancel culture” that isn’t even there. \n\nHaving thin skin about other people having thin skin and letting their thin skin offend you is especially soft.",
"So out of several thousands of hours of podcasts and hundreds of guests basically your only gripe is having a UFO quack and Alex Jones on?",
">For instance, I can't sit through a church sermon without cracking up, it's all such a crock of shit and those people cling to every word like it's all true, thinking an hour every Sunday wipes away their bad deeds\n\nSo if a priest went up to a stage, started a sermon and people started to laugh that is a stand-up special? Just because you think its funny doesnt mean its comedy material. \n\n>I'm no creationist and I am pro trans rights, but to deprive comedians of their right to poke fun at what they want is just wrong.\n\nHe can say what he wants, he doesnt get to act suprised when he is criticized and ignores criticism.",
"The goat",
"That is not what I said at all. Not even remotely. Please take the time to read before you respond, I'm not going anywhere. \n\nI said that for *brevity* I would talk on that particular point since I think it's one that is unambiguous. In that:\n\nEither you stay friends/promote someone who mocks parents of mass murdered children or you don't. \n\nIs it a hivemind to nope from someone who chooses the former? I would say no. That is not merely a matter of opinion to say such things to those families. That is not some left vs right thing or w.e. That to me is a clear cut choice.",
"That's exactly what I was going to say. I tried watching Raw a few years ago and had to turn it off. We can't really judge the past through the lens of today, but we also don't have to watch it.",
"Dave Chapelle isn't being censored at all you ninny.",
"Won't you pity the poor man who only has ONE streaming network, the largest in the world, to host his documentary? \n\nTruly, his god given right to free speech has been restricted, now available only to anyone with a Netflix account. \n\n*This is just like 1984* /s",
"Ohhhh!",
"Hmm, is Jordan Peterson the dude who says you shouldn’t try to fix society until your life is in perfect order but also the guy who says we should have state-enforced monogamy?\n\nOr is he the guy who said women who wear makeup in the workplace are distracting men and that all women deep down just want to be subjugated?\n\nWait nvm he’s the guy who preaches personal responsibility but ended up getting addicted to benzos lmao what a great role model",
"I'm not trying to start a flame war, but how is that any different than Rachel Dolezal, assuming she actually identifies as a black woman? I may regret asking this but I'm genuinely curious.",
"No, it's a commentary. In a \"comments\" section. Imagine that.",
"1) I am online. We are online right now. It's necessary to be online to have this very discussion.\n\n2) Accusing someone of being uninformed is very different than claiming Chappelle is undeserving of criticism. You're more likely to see the opposite argument; since trans people are a minority group, Chappelle's comedy represents hate or a phobia.",
"Right wing belief always originates from a kind of weakness. The most common being a lack of empathy. \n\nOf course these weaknesses are propped up by their greatest weakness of all, the inability to meaningfully and logically communicate about their worldview and core beliefs.\n\nAlso any redditor out there who can barely contain themselves from saying \"both sides\" in 2021 please [learn what the left actually is first. ](https://youtu.be/a1WUKahMm1s)\n\nHint: liberals =\\= leftist.",
"Steven Crowder has to take a break from chugging dog cum to spout off some slurs every once in a while",
"I think this man is vile and repugnant! I'm gonna specifically protest outside the offices of the company with exclusive rights to his shows! But I don't want them to censor him!\n\nIf you say so, bud.",
"No what he is saying is that the able body audience was the privileged ones... So the audience ( the community) and the blind man was the subset within the community).",
"If you don’t agree with me then you’re delusional? Got it.",
"This video does criticize Dice Clay, even if if fights for his right to say it. I don’t think Save should\nBe arrested for his words but I do think they were transphobic.",
">George Carlin was so ahead of his time. I don't think I fully understood how deep he was until after his death, but so many things he said 15, 20 or 30 years ago could have been uttered today and been just as relevant now, if not even moreso.\n\nNot really. For all the \"progress\" society thinks its made, nothing's really changed.",
"\"I follow the very strict line\" as if I have any choice, you dope?\n\nThe difference is I can call a spade a spade. You lack that self awareness. You're a cultist making fun of other cultists.",
"I don't disagree with entirely but...they specifically told him, \"Don't do the Jack and Jill joke or you'll be banned forever.\" Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.",
"Ironic he laments folks not listening to the JRE podcasts in their entirety, podcasts that are typically 3 hours long, yet won’t take the two minutes to read your comment in its entirety.",
"So you just forgot about the guy pulled out of his truck and beaten to death? Or about the kids shot in CHAZ? Or when antifa protestor Michael Reinoehl straight up capped a dude with a handgun? Or the dozens and dozens of buildings burned down? Or the looting that happeend in all major cities during the protests?\n\n\"I watch real news.\" LMAO.",
"Both sides attack the others sides people on power and punch on the other sides followers. This is such an elitist holier than thou attitude that is spewed out by progressives.",
"It’s disingenuous to call it “cancel culture”. What it really is is people not dealing with “racist culture”, “sexist culture”, and “white nationalist” culture and then propagators of those cultures crying because their feelings are hurt.",
"I don’t think his definition of TERF is fair. But you’re right, by his own reckoning … he’s a piece of shit.",
"Ah - I didn't notice that! Yes that IS pretty funny!\nEspecially since they said \"basically... your only...\" to a point I *specifically* partitioned for a focused discussion.",
"Is this a copy pasta",
"I'm sorry, I don't have time to explain everything wrong with the US political system.",
"George Carlin on Dave Chapelle",
"Is he talking about Jordan Peterson?",
"True, but that doesn't mean people have impunity either. Just because it can be lazy doesn't mean it is, and Chapelle is t lazy whether you agree with him or not",
"I mean it's his entire shtick. This would be like hiring Lamb of God to do a show but \"no screaming, please.\"",
"Do you think it's possible his special, while offensive to the outraged far left, is actually touching to and bridges a gap with another audience that doesn't buy into the progressive left agenda wholesale?",
"This would be a good point if it turned out the other guy had watched them all. He hadn't. So those were some pretty fucking important clarifying questions.",
"I don’t know where you got this idea of “impunity”. Nobody said you’re not allowed to criticize a trans person for things they say or do. What you shouldn’t do is criticize a trans person simply because they are trans. Chapelle made lazy and bigoted generalizations about the trans community in his special based on the fact that some people harshly criticized a trans woman for allowing herself to be used as a prop in Dave Chapelle’s previous transphobic special. This is bad. \n\nIronically, Dave Chapelle seems to be basing his (bigoted and over generalizing) criticisms of the trans community on the premise that the trans woman who aligned herself with him should be immune from criticism. \n\nDave Chapelle does not have impunity either. If he says shitty things, he opens himself up to criticism and professional consequences. This is how it works for everyone.",
"> “Punching down” refers to groups without a voice; people who can’t fight back. \n\nThat's not really true. What group today has no voice, at least in the US? That would mean they have no internet. The Amish but can they really not fight back?\n\n> If you have the ability as a group to get someone censored or blacklisted for saying something you don’t like, that’s pretty damn privileged. \n\nWho was blacklisted?",
"Oh, I thought he was talking about Dave Chappelle",
"I do not believe Chapelle criticized trans people simply for being trans. I don't think most Americans saw that either.",
"\"I listen to what Joe Rogan tells me, you should too! And if you don't it's because someone told you NOT to!\"",
"Regardless, she can't speak for herself. She's dead. \n\nChapelle is using her a defense for his own arguments. He's likely right, but he can't know he's right. He's putting his own words into her mouth to avoid criticism. It adds nothing to his argument but a emotional shield. It's a shitty thing to do. \n\nIt's entirely possible she was comfortable with Chappelle's past jokes, but not comfortable about him joking about how she'd explain her gender to her son. Maybe, hell even likely, she would have been totally cool with it. But maybe she wouldn't be. He can't ask her.\n\nI can't claim to know completely know the mind of even really close friends and family. I wouldn't be so arrogant to make that assumption. \n\nAfter all, I've occasionally recommended shows to close friends who I thought they would really like, and they ended up not liking them. If I occasionally get stuff that small incorrect, why would I make much bigger assumptions on much more sensitive matters?",
"You're the one not understanding them lol.",
"the one I saw was \"dat fuckin whore\"",
"You seem to have confused what I actually said with, essentially, \"no leftist has ever committed a crime\". Do I need to repeat myself or can you be trusted to reread the conversation and realize how off base you are?\n\nSigh. Why am I even asking.",
"Who gives a shit? Whether that person had watched them or not should not affect the answers to any of these questions.",
"> And on the show they speak candidly about things and opinions that are not usually allowed to be talked about by the corporate press.\n\nThis is the part that kills me about the JRE's popularity. Somehow, Joe Rogan and his fans have convinced themselves that the large majority of discourse is \"corporate\" and strictly controlled according to some nebulously defined speech codes. In that world, the only way to really break out and encounter different perspectives and interesting ideas is through Joe Rogan, because the \"corporate press\" won't allow it.\n\nThe problem with this idea is that it's flagrant bullshit. There's a wealth of discourse out there that's open, freewheeling, and deeply interesting. There is absolutely nothing of value being discussed on the JRE that's not available in a more rigorous, less bullshit-friendly form elsewhere. The only guests that are truly bringing views to the table that you can't hear elsewhere are the Nazis and Alex Jones-ish sociopaths who don't deserve to be heard in the first place.\n\nThe idea that Joe Rogan is a window into a world of ideas and people who you'd never encounter otherwise is more of a sign of how intellectually stunted young masculine culture has become than anything else imo. You think that he's discussing issues that aren't allowed to be voiced anywhere else because your intellectual world is the size of a grape. I think one of the reasons for Joe Rogan's explosion in popularity is that there's a huge and unsatisfied intellectual curiosity among young men who lack the tools, temperament, cultural values, and education required to explore the world in a more effective way. Which is just sad.",
"Again, I'm not familiar with the anecdote, but I don't see the relevance. Many trans people, not all, don't like the jokes and thought they were needlessly punching down, many non-trans people felt the same way, and are boycotting him. That does not mean that trans people have the power in society, it just means it's no longer socially acceptable to attack them. I don't see what you are trying to get at with your comment about the blind man.",
"Must have missed that on the MTV special.",
"\"cries on TV are fake\"\n\n\nYou've seen the full video right?\n\nhttps://youtu.be/7ir4sWOPEdM",
"did you find out about his addiction to benzos before or after his trip to russia?\n\ncan you explain to me without sounding like an insane conspiracy theorist why he would choose to enter an induced coma in russia to kick that addiction, given his life and the message he preaches?\n\nthe dude has a sick wife and an insane daughter, and he felt the need to proselytize to a generation of frustrated young men about the evils and feminism and socialism. he's been a dickhead since his historically ignorant reading of Bill C-16 something like 5 years ago, why do his supporters/sycophants pretend the rest of us are unaware of what a fucking moron the man is and how much a glass house he lives in?",
"I see problems on both ends. I don't think it's ok to grant anybody any exceptions to what we all decide should be equal rules and treatment for everybody. Comedy is free speech. Haters can hate, but frankly most people wish the haters would STFU and calm down. If you don't like the comedy don't listen to it. There is so much hyper-sensitivity now and people are so fragile. There's a growing \"entitlement\" to feel overly sensitive (like people feel justified be so super sensitive), as well as a sense of entitlement to be shielded from other people who are just utililzing free speech. This works against them because everyone tires of the bullshit.",
"Having a discussion with someone about the meaning of the special, who is clearly critical of the special, but hasn't seen the special, doesn't seem fruitful. Sure, you can be interrogated, but who wants to be?",
"You're saying that like there is agreement on policy even in the DNC. \n\nYou're going to need to be specific before I or anyone can say if it's my or Pelosi's policy. Any by specific, saying \"I think college should be free!\" isn't specific, you have to clarify the limits service and how it's paid for or else it's not a policy.\n\nThat's also the problem with claiming everyone supports your policies, it's easy for a policy to be popular where there are no details to disagree about.",
"Your post that simply says comedy is subjective and individuals are unique— two basic facts— is being downvoted. It really makes it difficult to take any part of this controversy seriously when the people acting offended are openly hostile to objective truths.",
"That brings us back to the question, what are you laughing at? The special seems to be going full circle back to the end of the Chapelle show. The jokes might not be written for the far right, but the far right sure does think they are funny for some reason.\n\nAlso as stated above, this is one of Chapelle's worst sets, it had a lot of very low hanging obvious jokes and shock humor that didn't go to a deeper level I am used to with Chapelle. This special wasn't good enough to bridge the gap.",
"What a dumbass.",
"Congrats on your abusive father I guess",
"That's not even remotely true. You can make jokes about absolutely anyone. Not punching down just means not making jokes that mock people about the specific things that cause them to be discriminated against.",
"> if you don't comprehend our culture.\n\nI do, though, so it's fine.",
"Show me where Chappelle is being censored. Because he hasn't shut the fuck up since his special premiered.",
"You are mistaken.\n\nAnd I listened to Crystal/Saagr, the Hill, and Jimmy Dore long before Rogan ever mentioned their names.",
"All of your arguments have been countered with experts in the field. Why are you putting on this act that you sit from a high position of authority on this topic?",
"No, they're both still comedy, we just use the punching up / down metric to help us decide what's shit and what isn't, along with lots of others. You know, like what happened with Ricky Gervais. Remember him? Yeah, neither do I.\n\nYou can also do a standup act full of \"take my wife, please\" jokes. No one's stopping you from being unfunny.",
"People fighting for the right to use the bathroom are somehow using their power less responsibly than a megamillionaire with no responsibility to anyone whatsoever. Lol, sure.",
"I think he said TERF women view trans people that way. Even if you were to take him seriously about being a TERF, Chappelle is not a woman.",
"Dude - I laughed at my best friends funeral in the 5th grade after he was murdered by his dad. I couldn't help it. It is a very well known and understood reaction.\n\nIf you think that justifies Alex Jones then you just need to go outside more often and also consult some therapists or mental health officials and ask them about grief responses. This is so cliche and old it bewilders me that you never came into contact with this phenomenon or heard about it.\n\nHeck, when I worked at a soup kitchen some of the veterans would have a similar disposition when remembering a skirmish. Nervous laughter and all that.",
"Gypsies surprisingly high on his list.",
"Where they?",
"Watch. His. Last. Special. Then.",
"I understand them fine, they just aren't relevant.\n\nDid I say it shouldn't be legal to cancel people?",
"I bet Carlin would be in favor of businesses not working with people they don't want to. Like, i bet he wouldn't think Netflix would even have to work with HIM. If they don't want to work with people, they don't have to. If Twitter doesn't want people putting out racist BS on their platform, they don't have to. If people are going to cancel their Hulu subscriptions because they allowed some terrible thing on their platform, they can take it down or disallow it. It's fucking capitalism and free speech. \n\nThese are companies and services that you work with and use at THEIR discretion. You sign an agreement before you do so. When you violate that agreement, you get kicked off. It's that simple. You don't have a right to have your videos published through any and every company in the world.",
"The joke is \"feminists are so sensitive, all it takes to piss them off is being a sexist pig.\" The joke isn't funny because feminists are sensitive, it's funny because men keep being sexist assholes.",
"Rogan has millions of followers from all over the world. Making broad generalizations about all of them is ridiculous and unfair.\n\nI don’t know where else in the podcast world on a single podcast you can listen to Lex Fridman one day, Dave Chapelle the next day, and GSP the day after. It’s wild and that’s what I like about it. Of course he’s not perfect, he drinks whiskey and smokes weed during the show.\n\nIf I hadn’t ever listed to Rogan I probably would have never started bjj. And BJJ has changed my life profoundly. \n\nYes they have indeed talked about countless stories that are not being widely or thorough talked about by corporate press. Or at least talked about before they become mainstream and acceptable to talk about. And example is Bret Weinstein lab-leak theory.\n\nI’m fine talking about Rogan. Last thought: Here’s the difference between me and you: if I don’t like something I don’t listen. I don’t waste my own time and energy smearing people who happen to like different things or have a different world view.",
"> Having a discussion with someone about the meaning of the special, who is clearly critical of the special, but hasn't seen the special, doesn't seem fruitful. Sure, you can be interrogated, but who wants to be?\n\nAnswering the question of \"why were you laughing\" does not depend on that person seeing the special. Hard to tell if it would have been fruitful, given the dancing.\n\nSomeone responding to reddit comments, in general.",
"> My recollection was that most of the fatal violence then was from right wing counter protesters like Rittenhouse",
"Like him or hate him, there’s a hilarious clip of Trump on Larry King inching back further and saying “Your breath smells quite bad”.",
"You keep wanting to make these \"my policies\", and it's baffling to me. I'm talking about the dem platform. I think we're just crossing wires here and I'm kinda done with it. \n\nMy *only* point is that the policies are not the problem. The system massively biases rural areas. That is the fundamental problem.",
"https://youtu.be/w6n-oTNMWkI",
"He wasn't abusive.. just what Dad's have done throughout human history bud. That's why some kids are fking stupid and some aren't.",
"Yup. *Most*. Nothing you said refutes that. Again, all the stats and government agencies are in agreement. The right wing is much more violent. \n\nSorry, but facts over feels.",
">I understand them fine, they just aren't relevant.\n\nThey are, as this is what you are declaring to be cancelling. By your own definition, anything that fails the free market is 'cancelled', which makes the concept rather meaningless.\n\nDave - who is not really cancelled at all, given all the speech he's still saying on stage - would be as cancelled as Quibi or most bloggers. \n\n> Did I say it shouldn't be legal to cancel people? \n\nNo, and you haven't shown how cancelling is not compatible with Libertarianism. In fact, it's basically to only form of social feedback compatible with it, given that it works through the market and property to accomplish its goals.",
"It should be fairly obvious to anyone with half a brain which is why I see you are struggling so much",
"I liked the whole thing. I think it was insightful and touching. Obviously it was meant to have some shock moments but he has always had that.\n\nIf you think Chapelle is only funny to the far right you have a very skewed perspective on who is watching and enjoying his commentary and comedy. He has a broad base that probably encapsulates about 90% of the left/right axis in the real world. Yes, they are funny to the far right, but also the middle, and the moderate left.",
"Hey look it’s one of the insecure white males he was talking about in this video!",
">Dave - who is not really cancelled at all, given all the speech he's still saying on stage - would be as cancelled as Quibi or most bloggers.\n\nThat's exactly why this trend of cancelling people is distasteful and should be criticized when possible.\n\n>you haven't shown how cancelling is not compatible with Libertarianism\n\nI never claimed that, point is that cancel culture can and should be criticized. My take on it is to boycott any company / organization that engages in cancel culture.",
"Well isn’t that convenient that you have to provide 0 examples of what you are talking about to prove your point",
"Never got hit, clearly smarter than you, cause I hate to break it to you bud but if he hit you for doing harmless shit just cause he didn't like it, he was definitely abusive. Hell, if he hit you at all he's abusive, you can't justify it with human history otherwise slavery and women not having rights was just fine. Which BTW it wasn't, just like your dad hitting you wasn't okay.",
"Most of the builders were burned down by right wing counter protestors? Most of the looting was right wing counter protestors? Most of the violence was right wing counter protestors? \n\nDo you have a first-hand source for any of this or is it all conjecture?",
"Reddit sure loves to take an all or nothing, black or white stance on things. We are all flawed, and I certainly don't agree with him on everything, but I don't think advocating for personal responsibility is a bad thing. I'd be interested to see a source on him calling for state enforced monogamy. I think that sounds like a ridiculous thing to advocate for personally, but the media in general has certainly taken many opportunities to deliberately misinterpret or otherwise misrepresent his stance on things, so I'm skeptical. You have your mind made up on him, and that is completely fine. In general I feel he is a net positive to humanity, and I think it's possible to advocate for personal responsibility, without necessarily being a perfect example himself (though it would certainly help...).\n\nThe benzo thing is unfortunate to be sure, but do you think that completely invalidates him? Many people have had issues, of varying length and degree, with drugs/alcohol. Does that mean they are completely devoid of value, and should be disregarded? Not trying to \"win\" an argument or hit you with a \"gotcha\" here, just want to hear your thoughts.",
"Why would you need to be an insane conspiracy theorist to understand why someone might opt for a medically induced coma for kicking benzo addiction? They are among some of the worst withdrawal symptoms out there.\n\nMight not be what you would have done, but I think you're for the most part just being bombastic here.",
"Just because you don’t find setting cats on fire funny doesn't mean everyone else feels the same.",
"Ah the old conservative prioritization of property over human lives. A classic unintentional red herring, as well as a wonderful la reveal magnifico of what you really care about.",
"> That's exactly why this trend of cancelling people is distasteful and should be criticized when possible.\n\nWhat? I don't think you are actually reading the response.\n\n>My take on it is to boycott any company / organization that engages in cancel culture.\n\nThis is cancelling, by your definition.",
"Shrug. I like speaking with people who know what they are talking about. I'm with the other guy.",
"So no source at all then. Cool.\n\nYou're also shifting the conversation away from your initial claims. \n\n\"Most of the violence was done by right wing counter protestors\" ---> \"oh that kind of violence isn't important.\"\n\nAlso just handwaiving past the people who were killed. I guess they just aren't important? \n\nBurning down people's homes and businesses doesn't matter to loonies like you, but to normal people it does.",
"I just got an email to go see his film in theaters. How the fuck is that canceled?",
"Lol k",
"There once was a guy named Dave\nWho kept a hooker in a cave.\nShe was ugly as sin,\nLooked like Rin Tin Tin,\nBut think of the money he'd save.\n\nOhh!",
"> I bet Carlin would be in favor of businesses not working with people they don't want to.\n\nLOLOLOLOLOL",
"Til correcting your departure from the original conversation is me shifting the conversation. \n\nY'all are so gaslit you do it subconsciously. If you don't believe Trump's FBI, you certainly won't believe me. You're in a non falsifiable cult. Not much else to say.",
"> Well maybe don't half-ass watch it next time if you're going to be arguing about it later.\n\nWait, if I watch it harder, I might be more offended?\n\n> No I'm not, those were direct quotes and the full context does absolutely nothing to make them less shitty.\n\nI googled the term 'i'm team terf' and it brought up 570,000 results and the majority of them seem to be about Dave Chappelle. Nothing more than tabloid fodder.\n\n> Morality being subjective doesn't mean that it's wrong for a person to have moral standards though, or to want society to conform to those moral standards.\n\nAh, so as long as everyone conforms to your ideals of what is or isn't socially moral, you're good.",
"Nobody sane can defend Jan 6th, but to compare it to 9/11 or call it the greatest terrorist threat in modern US history is ludicrous. It's a bunch of idiots cosplaying revolutionaries storming the capitol, scaring shitless a load of corrupt career politicians that on a normal day, everyone would agree should be kicked all the way back to whichever state they came from. But because of how divided we are and how politicized everything is, oh no, half the country must now empathize with these fearless congressional leaders of ours! Imagine how terrified they were of the terrorists!!!\n\nGet real will ya?\n\nYou can't downplay the cities burned during \"fiery but largely peaceful protests\" while keep bringing up 1/6. Both are idiot cosplay revolutionaries destroying shit as if their actions have any real meaning.",
"Shrug. I enjoy watching people dance around things they obviously don't want to admit to.",
"Dude they had zip ties and were bashing cops with fire extinguishers. \n\nSymbolically, that was a really big deal. Our own populace storm the federal capitol building in broad daylight. \n\nYou should get real. What do you think would have happened if they caught up with aoc or pelosi",
"It's funny how whenever someone doesn't automatically equate the right or Republicans with pure evil incarnate, we just assume they're one.\n\nNaturalized immigrant here. Mostly liberal. But by how you just labeled me one of \"them\", ostensibly \"they\" just gained an unwilling member! You're literally making \"them\" appear stronger than they actually are!",
"If people were being punished for mocking disabled children, then disabled children would, in fact, hold a great degree of social power-- especially if they are the ones who get to decide what is and isn't punishable mockery.",
"I'm not critiquing his last special, dear, I'm critiquing his behavior leading up to it. This long term pattern he had been engaged in, and his ever-increasing push-back against the critique. And seriously, the man is complaining about being \"canceled\" *when he got paid millions for his latest special*? Doesn't that at least start to clue you in that the hyperbole surrounding all this, suggesting trans people are bullying him, is utter nonsense?\n\nAnd yet here you are still looking for excuses, any excuses, not to listen and to deny even the slightest possibility Dave may have earned even a bit of the criticism currently directed his way...\n\nYou're smarter than this, aren't you?",
"You view is weirdly predicated around the idea that people are afraid or embarrassed to like Chapelle and his views. We aren't. It's just exhausting to deal with an outrage machine driven by people who only know headlines.",
"You decried \"social justice\" as a bad thing. I think you can forgive everyone for assuming you are a moron.\n\nNow, I want to gently introduce to you the possibility that you may not be as progressive as you think, if you find \"social justice\" such a deplorable goal.",
"Neither does the left have any interest in social justice.\n\nBy definition when one is a \"social justice warrior\", they're someone who has no actual interest in promoting the wellbeing of disadvantaged or oppressed individuals. That's why there's the \"warrior\" part tagged on. The term is used to refer to folks who fly the banner of progress and change to destroy others all while being in the comfort and safety of their own homes, behind keyboards and monitors -- true \"warriors\". \n\n\"Social justice warriors\" are simply people who use whatever the latest outrage is to target people for destruction. In the 90s and early 2000s, it was the right with video games, fantasy, music lyrics, movies, etc. Right now, it's mostly the left with... well, about the same things really.",
"Well, he's for freedom of speech, right? What about the freedom of the comedy club owner to kick you the fuck out?",
"Hmmm? \"Bitchmade\".",
"That last point is kinda garbage. \"If you don't like it....don't look at it\" is just about the weakest response to criticism I can think of. Like shit, I'm all for free speech n shit, but that comes with the free speech of someone criticizing you. And do you really think that we shouldn't be allowed to criticize things we don't enjoy? Especially if the point is how Joe's program influences the thought process of young men that watch. Like we can't just not interact with young men, and that's as one myself. If it effects society, and we're part of society, we're allowed to comment on it's effects. I highly doubt you actually don't spend any time badmouthing things/people you don't like. We all do. Like shit, I had generally less of a problem with Chapelle's special than most others but if he can say what he wants, other people should be able to say what they want about it. Just disagree with their point, don't insinuate that they're being more disrespectful than you for having one.",
"> You view is weirdly predicated around the idea that people are afraid or embarrassed to like Chapelle and his views. We aren't. \n\nMy view is predicated on the fact that this person was actually unwilling to answer the direct questions lol. Like, it's self evident given constant responses that were unwilling to address the questions.\n\nAnd I enjoyed watching it :)\n\n> It's just exhausting to deal with an outrage machine driven by people who only know headlines.\n\nThe user ended up watching it, and had already watched the previous specials. It didn't change anything, like when I watched it. It's meh, like he's been for awhile. It's exhausting having people's response to defending their views as \"HaVe YoU wAtChEd It?!\" Almost as exhausting as watching a once great comic complain about getting cancelled while earning tens of millions into a microphone.",
"Individuals and Companies / Orgs are not the same thing.",
"I'm ova here nao!",
"What kind of coke have you been licking and where can I get some?",
"Yeah, because when Dave Chapelle makes jokes about Black people, he is a lot funnier when he never mentions race right?\n\nComedy is inherently about suffering. Avoiding discriminatory jokes is really freaking lame. The best comedies are the ones which mock people about the things they are discriminated against. Because this form of comedy is often the most insightful and the most relatable.",
"> Individuals and Companies / Orgs are not the same thing. \n\nSo I can't boycott Dave Chapelle, because that is cancelling, but boycotting a private business film festival because they refuse to host something they don't want to host, isn't cancelling?\n\nThis seems a weird way to get around just admitting that the free market is speaking lol.",
"\"Social justice\" in the context of current world isn't the same as just the lofty idea of \"justice for the downtrodden and powerless\".\n\nI think we both know that.\n\nWhen you pair the term \"social justice\" with the term \"warrior\", everyone who's not trying to willfully misconstrue knows that the term is regarding individuals who fly the banner of social justice in order to destroy people to then feel virtuous about themselves.\n\nAnd like I said, it's not a phenomenon exclusively reserved for the left.",
">Comedy is inherently about suffering\n\nSilly me. All this time I thought comedy was about laughing.",
"Ah the ol' reddit sidestep: when you have no good response to an argument, downvote, make a flippant remark and run.",
"We laugh at suffering. Think about everything you find funny. It's usually involves some form of suffering.",
"Oooo what a screaming hot take. Straight out of 2016. Give me a break dude.",
"Also, you're the one adding \"warrior\" late. Originally you decried the idea of social justice itself. My point is that that made you look like a sensitive feels over reals republican, and so everyone assumed you were.",
"I’m pretty sure he didn’t miss the point, he just correctly pointed out how ridiculous it was and you didn’t like that. Tell us about poor Dave Chappelle and how badly he’s doing. Are mean people talking badly about his 24 million dollar special?",
"I admit it doesn't look good. That's why they're a bunch of idiot rioters.\n\nA far larger number of idiot rioters on the other side of the political spectrum caused far more damage the previous year, however. Burning down police stations, setting fire to courthouses, beating up regular residents, etc.\n\nAnd I wouldn't like them to actually catch up to any politicians. Though if I remember right, weren't they as pissed at the Republicans for failing to support Trump as they were at the Democrats? It probably would've been pretty bad. Though I still think they're mostly a rowdy group of politically charged hotheads kidding themselves into thinking they're actual revolutionaries, there are definitely some among them who are actually clearly violent and would probably seriously harm or even kill any of the politicians if they were to corner them.\n\nBut symbolism aside, I'd like to know, if you were to look at the actual tangible damage caused by the left over the summer of 2020 and the that by the right during the capitol riot, would you still say the capitol riot was worse?",
"Simply trying to make clear definitions so our disagreement can be over on common fundamentals.",
"Why do you place such emphasis on the amount he has been paid up *until* getting cancelled? What has that to do with anything? You are talking about a man who walked away from 50 million dollars because of principles, do you think you have the moral highground because he is now getting millions of dollars for his shows? \n\nAnd what is this \"long term pattern\" you are talking about? Is it the same made up bullshit you heard others repeat before you so you just bought it? The guy does not critique the lgbtq movement, nor trans people in particular. He critiques the fact that nothing happens with black rights moving forward. He compares the lack of progress for black people, with how quickly for example trans people have made headway, in order to highlight the issue. \n\nIs this offensive to you? Because it seems to be offensive to a lot of people in the lgbtq zone, and honestly if that is how fucking locked in some people are on being the victim, that they can't even tell they are not even the focal point of what he is saying, then fuck those people. That kind of people are so extremely detrimental to any movement and this unfounded bullshit critique of Dave Chappelle will only result in a huge reactionary wave *against* the lgbtq movement. But some people are too stupid to realize where to pick their battles, because *their friend* told them Dave Chappelle was a bad man and joked about trans people.\n\nBut I'm sure people will just extrapolate what *I* just said, to try to turn it into *me* saying \"fuck lgbtq people\". It would be equally disingenuous as what is currently happening to Dave Chappelle.",
">Why would you need to be an insane conspiracy theorist to understand why someone might opt for a medically induced coma for kicking benzo addiction? They are among some of the worst withdrawal symptoms out there.\n\nbecause it flies in the face of both A) western medicine and B) taking responsibility for yourself.\n\nyou conveniently never address why anyone on Earth would follow the life advice of a man who found himself hopelessly addicted to drugs, but still felt compelled to give life advice to other people, all the while being a misogynistic piece of shit.",
"I think it’s hilarious he preaches personal responsibility and then practices none of it himself. Everything is the fault of those spooky post modern neo marxists which is a hilariously buzzword filled contradiction, but its enough to hook in dudes who can’t look at a girl without getting the sweats. [I even highlighted the relevant passages for you](https://i.imgur.com/Fqxz0Fu.jpg)\n\nThe thing that makes it especially funny is that there’s a direct line you can draw from the faces of atheism debacle to edgy videos DESTROYING fundies to DESTROYING those pesky SJWs to simping for daddy Peterson. \n\nYou’re the digital equivalent of putting on a fedora and thinking you look like Humphrey Bogart but really the rest of the world sees his fans as the pathetic trilby wearing incels they are.",
"Yeah, I'm a coward for not giving a treatise on how bipartisan it is to be an authoritarian corporacrat in the US government. The congress-to-lobbyist pipeline is bipartisan. Face it, the Patriot Act isn't a bill about \"people doing what they want,\" unless by \"people,\" you mean government agencies, and that was unequivocally bipartisan. And that's just barely scratching the surface of things wrong with both wings of our political system. The parties themselves are corrupt, the DNC even argued in court that they are not beholden to democratic principles in their primary process.\n\nIf it feels like I'm harping on one side more than the other, it's only because that's the side that you're giving a pass for bad behavior. Both sides are complicit in the strengthening of the presidential seat, which people only realized was dangerous once a demagogue reached it, and promptly forgot about once the demagogue was ousted.\n\nYes, the Republicans are worse in almost every way, but it's a difference of degrees, not of essential characteristics. We need major political reform, and both parties will stand in the way of any reform that could undercut their mutual stranglehold on power.",
"Lol you are obsessed with the free market.",
"Huh... did I?\n\nI'll have to look back at the original post.\n\nOk my original post was: \n\n>That’s social justice for ya. And warriors of such persuasion come from all political sides.\n\nThat was me alluding to \"social justice warriors\" as a broader concept. I even made sure to say that they come from all sides. It's not something that most on the right agrees with though. Anytime you tell them \"SJWs aren't just leftists, there are plenty on the right who behave exactly the same\" and a lot of them will flip out, \"no no no! SJWs are leftists!\" \n\nMy point is that \"social justice warriors\" have as much to do with social justice as buffalo wings have to do with buffalos.",
"And you are obsessed with blocking freedom and free speech in the name of 'fairness'.",
"You can call people or their arguments garbage, smear and unfairly misrepresent millions of people all day, but you need to know your opinions and biases have zero value to anyone in the world but you.\n\nThe underlying message behind all your your posts is your false belief that you and likeminded are somehow morally or intellectually superior than the average JRE listener.\n\nI obviously do not buy it.",
"I read your first sentence, rolled my eyes, and I'm walking away. Chappelle has *not* been \"canceled\", he's just at the center of a controversy at the moment. Until you can stop with the hyperbole (which, I might point out, rather opens *you* up to accusations of the kind of strident, irrational outrage you have been attributing to trans people critical of Chappelle) there's really no point in talking to you further. You're not listening, you've built up a rhetorical wall around yourself to *avoid* listening, so there's no point in trying.\n\nMaybe step outside, get a breath of fresh air, and enjoy the rest of your day - that's what I'll be doing.",
"\n\n>You’re the digital equivalent of putting on a fedora and thinking you look like Humphrey Bogart but really the rest of the world sees his fans as the pathetic trilby wearing incels they are.\n>\n\nAh, so we're going for personal attacks now. That's unfortunate.\n\nHave a good one dude.",
"You're obsessed with making arguments that I never made. It's like, pathological.\n\nI said he's being cancelled by film festivals. And he is, being cancelled by film festivals.\n\nThat's it. It's a fact. Stop punching the air, ya fucking weirdo.",
">I googled the term 'i'm team terf' and it brought up 570,000 results and the majority of them seem to be about Dave Chappelle. Nothing more than tabloid fodder.\n\nLol wtf kind of argument is that? Yeah of course the results are about Dave Chappelle, I'm fucking quoting him! \n\n>Ah, so as long as everyone conforms to your ideals of what is or isn't socially moral, you're good. \n\nI confess, I think that it's good when people do good things and bad when people do bad things. \n\nLol you really are arguing against the very concept of having morals aren't you? \nFunny what kinds of corners defenders of transphobia have to twist themselves into to avoid admitting that they're being fucking assholes.",
"What does this have to do with the video",
"they turned on him after his stupid comments on masks and their other icon, bill bur, called him a retard for it.",
"I mean, have you seen Congress lately?",
"Have fun in the lobster tank 😘",
"[You joke but that's not too far off from the idea of the 'progressive stack' at the Occupy Wallstreet protests](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_stack)",
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"That's Norm Macdonald picking on minority and underdog groups.\n\nWhat are you one of them gay guys?",
">I said he's being cancelled by film festivals. And he is, being cancelled by film festivals.\n\nIn the same way that Quibi, purple ketchup, and the Dixie Chicks were cancelled, yes lol. In that people told others to stop buying those products.\n\n> That's it. It's a fact. Stop punching the air, ya fucking weirdo.\n\nAre you going to watch the film festivals? Or are you boycotting them?",
"\n>because it flies in the face of both A) western medicine and B) taking responsibility for yourself.\n>\n\nHard disagree. But I guess in your eyes it's important that he suffer through the withdrawals so he doesn't come off like a hypocrite. Doctors prescribe benzos all the time, and it's a well known issue that the potential for addiction is often understated, or flat out not mentioned by said doctors.\n\n>you conveniently never address why anyone on Earth would follow the life advice of a man who found himself hopelessly addicted to drugs, but still felt compelled to give life advice to other people, all the while being a misogynistic piece of shit.\n>\n\nBecause there is nuance to life, and to people. MLK cheated on his wife, and was on his way to do so when he was assassinated. John Lennon sang about peace and hope, while simultaneously beating the shit out of his wife and son. These are terrible things, and I dislike them for it, yet I think taking an \"all or nothing\" approach to people, as you seem keen to do, is simple minded. You certainly don't have to like the guy, or agree with him. Like I said, we're all flawed to varying degrees, but that doesn't mean he's incapable of speaking truth, or making good points. On the other side of the coin, I'm certainly not advocating that people blindly follow his advice, or anyone's advice for that matter, but nuance seems to be a lost art, and many people (myself included) are often quick to completely disregard what others have to say, simply because they dislike them.\n\nNo one's mind is really being changed here, and I knew that getting into this, but I hope you have a good one man. I disagree with you, but I have nothing against you.",
"Bro it's not just that he chuckles. The whole routine is fucking wierd.\n\nHe starts working himself up to make sure it looks legit on camera. Dead kid or not his reaction does not look honest at all.",
"Bro....I'm literally a different person than the first conversation. I never actually made any claim about Joe or his listeners if you read my comment. And my opinions matter to anyone that feels like listening to them, thats how opinions work. All I'm saying is that the defense of \"if you don't like it, just look away\" is a dumb argument that falls apart if you apply it to anything you yourself don't fuck with (if you don't like that that guy is getting beat up....why are you watching it happen, just leave). Or how about this: \"if you don't like their opinions, why are you talking to them?\". Cuz who WOULD be allowed to criticize anything? People who like things tend to not criticize them, and of they used to like it but don't anymore, like this person you're arguing with, they're still not allowed to criticize? That doesn't leave anyone left, buddy, and that doesn't sound very \"pro free speech\" to me.\n\nBut hey, underneath this all I could be a religious JRE listener, I never said anything about anything Joe or his fans have said or done, nor insinuated that they've done anything wrong, or that I even agree that there's anything bad to comment on. I just think that they're not off-limits to criticism (whether I agree with it or not), just like any person or fanbase isn't either.\n\n\nEdit: also I never called anyone garbage. A dumb argument doesn't make a dumb person.",
"I don’t have time for any of this nonsense. Sorry not going to read your long rant.",
"Right, so one more person who hadn't watched it trying to question the views and motives of someone who had. Gross behavior.",
"Lmao how you gonna comment on what I say but not read it? Well here's the tl:dr\n\nIm a different guy than who you were arguing with an I never made any comment about the quality of Joe's program or his fans. He's just allowed to be criticized the same way he's allowed to criticize others. Not being a fan doesn't take away that right",
"Dude did that on my comment too. Bro is the absolute king of starting an argument, responding to your shit and then being like \"sorry I didn't read what you said\" when he responds. Guy's literally having an argument with himself",
">Right, so one more person who hadn't watched it trying to question the views and motives of someone who had. Gross behavior.\n\nWhat's gross is not simply answering a fairly basic question because one is embarrassed of the answer, but also being unwilling to introspect about that.",
"Again you can just look this stuff up. Even if I believed that he was faking it, and I don't, that is still not a conspiracy. Some people laugh but others go into deep grief and are unable to cry... and what do you think will happen if they are asked to come and talk on their child's behalf? They might force it. So even if I entertained him faking it there are valid reasons.\n\nLastly, let's get to you specifically. Do you think that Sandy Hook was a hoax? Yes or no? You sent a link implying the grief-stricken father was faked so where are we going with this?",
"He's clearly a piece of shit, what's to talk about?\n\n\"Hey guys, I'm a right winger. I hate literally every minority, hate the environment, hate education, hate other cultures, hate learning new things, hate anyone who is different from me, hate anyone who doesn't hate what I do, and want to materially ruin the lives all those people and may even support them all being outright murdered. \n\nWhat? You don't want to talk to me? Bigot'",
"I literally said making fun of disordered people was bad and wrong and not funny, what more do you want lol? \n\n\nIm not saying his valid point about american media makes that whole bit okay it doesnt just pointing out there was more to that bit than just the punch down \n\n\nand no, very few if any of my favorite comics punch down , maybe yours do",
"Rich as fuck and set for life a thousand times over, getting paid many times my lifetime salary to sit around and bitch on stage *one time* for forty five minutes?\n\nYes I would love that. I wouldn't even have to shit on any minorites in the process.",
"Your side's cowardice and the need to cling to billionaires and authoritarians for comfort is driving our entire civilization to ruin.\n\nYour side even seeing a \"dangerous world\" in their suburban ass lives is the exact problem. \n\nYour side defines a \"safe world\" as being one devoid of everyone who doesn't look and think like them and the threat of deadly violence from the state in response to the mere existence of other people as the solution.",
"I mean I'm not like mad at your or anything just talking.\n\nI guess my point is that the \"punch down\" isn't what made it unfunny and the angle of the \"punch up\" isn't what saved it a bit for you. I'm trying to make a case that even though the idea of being mean in comedy CAN leave a bad taste in a fans mouth, that doesn't mean that the answer is \"punching down = bad, punching up = good\". There was something else at work there, ie the fact that you don't feel \"safe\" that he's saying mean shit about people that are having a rough time. He's made tons of other funnier jokes saying mean shit about people having a rough time because it was executed with a better setup that made you believe more completely that he was talking without malice. This bit doesn't convince you of that, so the \"violation\" of commenting on how it seems like an absurd disorder doesn't seem like he's not trying to hurt those with it. \n\nBut just for curiosity's sake, would you mind listing a few of your favorites? I would bet money that there are at least a few examples of \"punching down\" that are pretty easy to overlook because they also makes the audience feel safe",
"\"They might force it. \"\n\nBro that's a fake cry.\n\nThis is the only part of your post I was disputing.",
"How many people have lost their job or income because of Dave Chappelle's jokes that didn't leave their job to try and make a point?\n\nBecause there's a short list of people getting longer that have sided with DC and lost their main source of income.",
"I don't watch Tucker Carlson, I'm not even a conservative. You can be a leftist without thinking minorities are a sacred cow and that comedy needs to be policed.",
"No, that's just an idiotic statement.\n\nIt's weird that you put an \"if,\" people are punished for mocking and making fun of disabled kids. At the same time, disabled kids don't decide what is and isn't a dick move, a collective society does. \n\nIn general, people think you're an asshole if you make fun of someone for something they can't control. That doesn't give them greater social power, it just means making fun of them is a shitty thing to do.",
"Again, I disagree with you and I think the cry is not fake at all. But zi am saying there is no need to imply a conspiracy for forcing a cry and it is not an uncommon thing.\n\nAnd since you chose to respond:\n\nDid Sandy Hook happen or not?",
"Nah, I'm right. Anybody can be mocked for any reason. The only that matters is that it has to be funny. At the very least that's my own personal value. If you don't share it, that's fine. People don't need to share every value with each other.",
"I've got no idea and neither do you.",
"so we have to think dave chapelle bad because george said so ?\ni swear most people who complaint about the show haven't seen it completely.",
"Ok, so you believe those parents and cops and all of sandy hook are lying. At that point I doubt we even share the same objective reality. \n\nI do have an idea. Those kids were killed and you are doing a great harm pushing a conspiracy that it can *go either way* . \n\nYou don't think its a 50/50 and you never did. You think those parents are lying and that people fake the deaths of children for years on end. Just be an adult and admit it instead of fence sitting. You never looked up how people handle grief and you believed that his laughter and etc is *only* explained by fraud and thats because you're uneducated on such a broad topic.\n\nWhich is ironic because given the full range of human actions this isn't even a blip. People feigning emotions when socially appropriate ahead of there time is old hat. Plenty of people go to funerals and never feel it until years later. It is entirely likely that he was forced to be in a mode *ahead of time*. \n\nYou want to poke at the bad stuff in the media? There you go. There's your story. People under a spotlight not being given the time to grieve. Yes, its mundane compared to whatever Alex Jones believes but its all we get. \n\nGo watch a movie or read a crime novel.",
"https://youtu.be/Pa3shoH-eZI?t=97 \n \nHere's the performance. The Jack and Jill joke was part of his planned routine (the audience recites it with him). He added this new one about Jack Sprat doing analingus on his wife and was donezo.",
"No I don't know exactly what happened and either do you.\n\nLike, who believes the official 9/11 story, or the official Las Vegas story?\n\nFucking no one right?\n\nSandy hooks official story doesn't make sense either.\n\n Did kids die? I'd say so. Is the official story true? I doubt it.\n\nYou and I both don't know exactly what happened and we won't ever know because we weren't there.",
"Sorry, I'm not a conspiracy theorist.\n\nBut let's go further. \n\nWe both weren't in Nazi Germany to observe the Holocaust. Are you also of the opinion that the event doesn't match the official story?\n\nDo you engage in this level of hyper skepticism in everyday life?",
"\"Cancel culture\" must be a completely new concept for you. \n\nYou are a great asset for the LGBTQ movement! *Not at all* the type that is a burden to an entire movement and only causes people to take a reactionary stance. It's not like people will get upset at this obvious bullshit against Dave Chappelle and that risks undoing a lot of the progress for LGBTQs at all. Great battle to pick, really! \n\n*You're doing great.* 😏",
"Ok, well all I’ll say is let’s then not use this video of Carlin to try to predict what his opinion would be on the Chapelle situation today",
"Fritz the Cat wasn't conservative, it was counter-culture. R. Crumb denounced the movie because he didn't agree with aspects how the character was portrayed but it was critical of the hard left and hard right.",
"Damn, this reply is a pretty manipulative misrepresentation of what was said, which is ironic because (1) it’s what you’re accusing Chappelle of doing and (2) it’s what the entire special was pushing back against—albeit inarticulate and out of touch with current vocabulary at times. \n\nYou don’t cite a single quote or source of anything said in context. To be fair to you, you’re just echoing others’ reductive rephrasing. You don’t sound like you’ve read or watched much of what you’re “criticizing”. \n\nI’ll use this one quote from you to illustrate the larger point:\n>He blamed LGBTQ people for canceling…\n\nNo. He blamed bullies, who happen to be a subset of very online TRAs pretending to represent all of the LGBTQ+ population. In doing so, they can misrepresent pushback against their bullying as anti-LGBTQ+—sort of like you’re doing here. \n\nBrilliant really. Manipulative af. But brilliant. Unfortunately though, the less-online general population (of all gender identities) are getting sick of it. We’re fully capable of saying “Probably not the best way to say that, but I know what they meant.”\n\nBut more critically, for the sake of my trans friends, I hope it stops, because it’s creating a whole new dogshit and untrue stereotype about the trans community. Not that they’re pervy predators defying god, but that they’re assholes. \n\nNo matter how hard you or Twitter try to prove otherwise. They’re not. They’re cool af, can laugh and fuck around as hard as anyone.",
"Its not hyper skepticism. Bro youre the ONLY one who believes the official 911 story.\n\nDo you believe saddam had wmds too?",
"Doubt it",
"You're forgetting that we're talking about legal sanctions here, not people just thinking some comedian is a dick. Please read people's posts more carefully and try to stay on topic.",
"I'd agree with that. You can see how he thought, and that's not a bad thing, but Carlin is another prime example of people putting words in dead peoples mouths to support their own stance.",
"You can gaslight all you want.\n\nNo, just because some people lie in the government doesn't mean everything is a conspiracy. So I can think Bush lied and that Sandy Hook happened. \n\nDo you think we landed on the moon?\nOr that the holocaust happened?",
"> Lol you really are arguing against the very concept of having morals aren't you?\n\nNo i'm against people who think they get to dictate morality to me.\n\nI was keeping this fun until you accused me of being transphobic. Now you've just pissed me off. You don't know me, I don't know you, yet you have the audacity to make an accusation like that because I disagree on your take on morality.\n\nYou trying to use trans people to be a moral overlord is sad. Like, really sad.\n\nFor the record, i've had trans friends since the 80s. I respect them and i'll use whatever term they prefer but if you aren't part of that group, you don't get to say a damned thing to 'correct' me.",
"Probably, but the official story for both is unlikely to be without politically charged twisting of the truth.\n\nGulf of tonkin?\n\nUSS Liberty?\n\nMKULTRA?",
"Give me an example in regards to the holocaust.",
"Who knows. The official story has changed so many times. \n\nUsed to be fact that they were making soap and lampshades, not to mention masturbating jewish men to death with sex machines. You would have to expect more myths to come to light as time goes on.",
"This goes in my joke book. Am a dad.",
"Ok so you do believe that minorities were massacred in Nazi Germany right? Like in Auschwitz?",
"Damn girlboss, gaslighting me already?",
">No i'm against people who think they get to dictate morality to me.\n\nSoooo, people shouldn't desire others to be good? What is that, some kind of radical centrism? \n\nYou're really gonna die on this hill aren't you? \n\n>I was keeping this fun until you accused me of being transphobic. Now you've just pissed me off.\n\nI'm still having a great time TBH. \n\nAlso, I specifically made sure to avoid calling you transphobic, I just called you a defender of transphobia. \nWhich I'd say was very generous of me, overly generous TBH, dunno why I bothered when a snowflake like you is gonna get mad anyway just because they get called out on their shitty behavior. \n\n>For the record, i've had trans friends since the 80s.\n\nLMFAO OK boomer. \n\n>I respect them and i'll use whatever term they prefer but if you aren't part of that group, you don't get to say a damned thing to 'correct' me. \n\nLol fuck off with your identity politics you PC SJW.",
"Idk if they're not funny, that's pretty subjective. I can say that he's MOSTLY not telling jokes anymore though. He just sort of tells stories, and sometimes almost preaches but there's not really many, and sometimes almost no jokes.\n\nI don't personally find his \"new stuff\" to be funny because I watch stand up comedy for different reasons than people who are laughing their asses off at Dave. I don't really care about his politics or any of that and am a bit sick of hearing him go on about things he's bothered by even when I see where he's coming from. Personally, I've started to find him taxing.\n\nI don't think he should be cancelled or anything along those lines, but a bit idk... he should just get some new material at this point and move on.",
"I realize that maybe you’ve never googled what a strawman argument is so let me help you out. \n\nYou created a narrative (the strawman) and then mocked it (the argument). A strawman argument doesn’t have to be a response, if I make up bullshit and then argue against it, it’s still a strawman.\n\nHopefully I’ve explained this in terms even someone like yourself can understand. If you’re still struggling feel free to reach out.",
"You're using the term \"gaslighting\" incorrectly.",
"With how crazy you get flamed socially and how most people who don't have status and even some who do can lose work over making fun of them I'd tend to agree with you.\n\nI think people need to generally chill and start to distinguish true damaging statements and maliciously peddled falsehoods and everything else. I watched the last Chappelle special and while I didn't really find it funny I don't think he was really punching down during any of it or even really going out of his way to say anything terrible about the trans community? None of it really felt malicious or vitriolic, and while I think he has his own misguided feelings and conclusions I think a lot of the vocal trans community similarly have their own misguided feelings and conclusions.\n\nYou can't have a conversation when at least one of the two or more parties default to giving emotional reactions. There's very clearly no intentional to dialogue with people like him from at least the vocal minority but it sure feels like more than that and he even has brought that up himself. \n\nTo me it looks like the most vocal people in the trans community spin their wheels and make demands while the majority would just like some dignity, respect and to live their lives peacefully... like most other human beings? Per usual the few tend to make the many look bad, but when you keep that in mind it's easy to remember that they're the few and you can write them off and move on. I think that's where Dave has been a bit... annoying to me? He needs to just drop it, chalk all this stuff he's talking about up to a shitty vocal minority he has tension with, and just move on (he does say that he's done talking about it at the end of the special so we'll see?)\n\nDef not punching down though in today's climate. People definitely need to calm the fuck down cuz they're definitely making things worse for everybody.",
"Yeh obviously.",
"Holy shit, there's the gatekeep",
"Woke people never dare listen to contrary opinions.\n\nJP has some great interviews with ex-diehard woke leaders. The beginning of the end for all of them starts with actually listening to one of the forbidden speakers and discovering that none of the horrible things they expected them to say ever come out.",
"I never said anything about punching down. \n\n\nMy point was about low hanging fruit, not punching down. \n\n\nMaking fun of Trump is punching up, but it's low hanging fruit.",
"It takes 2 seconds to look up their list of demands. Be careful though, that'll ruin your victim complex",
"Holy shit, I didn't know he said that. Good to know that one of the kings of comedy thought the same thing.",
"You're just full of buzzwords today... whatever it takes to avoid having to engage with a difficult argument, eh?",
"It takes 2 seconds to see that I said \"if you say so, bud\", which definitely means I'm on your side. Literal meaning is all that matters of course, not intent.",
"See, now that's comedy.",
"And you think the children at Sandy Hook were massacred by a mentally ill gunmen?",
"> our news directed at minority groups rather than people in power is becoming a huge problem.\n\nthat's by the design of said people in power.",
"If you're too stupid to pick up on the meme I've been quoting, your argument isn't worth my time.",
"At a very minimum you must be cast in to the Shadow Realm",
"I'm not the one parroting memes in order to hide from a difficult argument.",
"Bruh arguing with a parrot would be more entertaining, you're literally just stupid. Your argument isn't difficult, it just slithered out of a slug incapable of reason.",
"I find it hilarious that you would go to such lengths to avoid engaging with the straightforward claim that people who can cause legal sanctions to be imposed on others hold some degree of social power over those people. \n\nYou seriously can't come up with an argument against that? You can't think of even a single counterexample?",
"I'm seeing if anyone will impose legal sanctions on me for bullying a clown.",
"Why are you so upset?",
"Enlarged pituitary gland, chronic.",
"That sounds bad. Maybe you shouldn't be getting into online arguments if your reasoning is so clouded by anger...",
"Thanks for taking the time to type this. Although it’s hard to say for certain whether he has “full blown paranoia”, I think it’s certainly possible and would explain a lot. And I think everything else you wrote is a refreshingly reasonable take on the situation.",
"Maybe you shouldn't be getting into online arguments if you're incapable of reason.",
"thanks, but it looked like automod ate parts 4-8. Here is the complete version\n\nhttps://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/qi4kjw/people_offended_by_dave_chappelles_special_why/hihtty0/",
"Given that you admittedly suffer from a hormonal imbalance, your judgment about what is and isn't reasonable is not particularly reliable. \n\nMany people find that green tea and yoga helps to keep their emotions in check. Look into it :)",
"You ok?",
"You can't make a strawman if there's no \" real man \" IE: the argument I'm avoiding.\n\nSo you're wrong.\n\nThanks for trying though.",
"Jesus christ you’re brain dead.\n\nPrivilege is taking home sacks of Netflix money after shitting on minority groups and crying about some angry twitter comments you get.\n\nIf people don’t like your comedy, thats called an audience reaction. If a birthday clown sucked and wasn’t hired he wasn’t cancelled, he just *sucked*. Is the government attacking comedians for their shitty jokes? No. Its younger audiences saying they don’t like a particular style of comedy.",
"Never heard of any of them aside from Joe Rogan because I have bro / friends who like that crap. Calling my life an insular bubble is hilarious, I work with real people everyday - including trans people. Dunno where you're coming from...",
"show me numbers. they're vocal but women (biological women so we're clear) are murdered everyday all over the world and you're up in arms about this minority?? You know they had to bring back an old word 'femicide' in South America because women are being killed there at such an alarming rate? Check that out.",
"What makes you think I’m not also against biologically female women being murdered as well?",
"Lol why are you so upset? You're getting paid to post political shills online",
"Lol why are you so upset? You're getting paid to post political shills online",
"It gets better man.",
"It gets better man.",
"Sexy with a sense of humor?",
"Comedy is not necessarily about suffering. Its your opinion that its lame but i find comedy that uses easy shots at discriminated groups and furthers to promote stereotypes and prejudice to be lame, lack luster, in poor taste and not entertaining. There is a way to make jokes about controversial topics thats clever, funny and doesnt just flame people and play into prejudice",
"You also arent necessarily treating people as sacred cows for not supporting comedy that effectually supports or benefits off detrimental prejudices. Its a hard line to ride, there is no rule or one size fits all. But both sides have merits.",
"Saying it in a joke doesnt mean its not a view he holds. He has echoed homophobic and transphobic comments through out his career. Theres a part of it thats a bit where hes trolling. But there is some kernel that is based on his views.",
"I agree. Hes definitely taking a side. I dont think its particularly educated and it really seems like a hill of a middle aged man venting for a time when he could get away with things like this. Where people were less offended and hurt. The thing is before people were still hurt they just took it on the chin. But groups and society at large has decided they are done with this. That its time to move into a more sensitive and empathetic time. The natural progression of culture is for it to change. Comedy back in the 50s can see off color nowadays. Im sure people back then said the same things that people upset about political correctness say today. I dont disagree that there are some things that people are upset about that are over the top. But by and large i see this as a natural progression",
"It was a joke in the sense that he tried to make it funny. But he has echoes various sentiments for years.",
"Well yeah jokes that suck, will suck. The problem with offensive humor or jokes making of different demographics isn't the topic, but the execution.",
"Art forms can be criticized and critiqued. I dont think you actually think that labeling something as an art form absolves it off social repercussions or impacts. There are several \"art pieces \" that were created by filming people have sex with dead corpses. Sure they are pushing a boundary but they arent without criticism or response. \n\nComedians frequently espose views they believe in their material. They also may not be. Chappelle is likely venting some truth, probably in an exaggerated way to troll. \n\nFamous comedians are absolutely people of influence. They influence culture and society. Dave Chappelle's career is evidence to that. \n\nDistinctions are also made depending on the artist, the art, the time period, and whether they are living or dead. The response is also based on individuals and there isnt necessarily a right or wrong interpretation or response (within reason). \n\nYou can both analyze the comedian, their jokes and their message as well as your feelings and responses. All of the above are inevitable. \n\nComedians dont have to apologize for the art. Just like flagrant bigots dont. But they may have to deal with social and economic repercussions. This has almost always been true. I believe their should be thicker more analytical skin worn by those that view art. But i dont think that means the creators dont have to deal with the impacts of their creation.",
"This is kind of like saying black people dont experience racism and prejudice because obama was president and george floyd caused protests across the country. Trans people like black people still face daily prejudice that not only hurts them socially, economically politically but leads to physical violence and suffering.",
"Sometimes its funny to some people. Nobodies saying anyone is immune to jokes but just because its a joke or a comedian said it doesnt mean they cant face social consquences. You can say anything you want but you might suffer as a result, this has always been true in any society.",
"I think everyone agrees to this by and large. The complaints are the execution. Punching down implies the jokes fall into poor form of execution. Obviously this is subjective. Theres always gonna be a minority and majority opinion and thatll break down further.",
"\"Punching down\" is such a weasel phrase. \n\nI mean who exactly is the \"down?\"\n\nDoes making jokes about Trump supporters count as punching down seeing as a large chunk of them are uneducated and live in rural areas?\n\nIs making a joke about Caitlyn Jenner punching down? She's white and rich, but she's also trans. \n\nWhat about making jokes about middle-class/upper class trans people in general? They're honestly better off than poor people in every demographic.\n\nIf you make fun of Black people in African countries is that punching down? I mean they're the majority in their nation. Is it okay for White Zimbabweans to crack racist jokes about Black people seeing as they're technically an oppressed minority?\n\nI mean you could argue that making fun of anybody is punching down and that you aren't punching down on anybody because every group of people has some form of privilege in society.\n\nHonestly when Leftists say \"Don't punch down\" what they really mean is \"Don't make fun of groups of people that I personally sympathize with.\"\n\nBut saying something like that comes across as petty and self-centered. So instead they dress it up to sound more morally correct then it really is.",
"Its contextual certainly. You could make arguments for all of the above. Leftists arent a unified group. There are many divisions and ideological groupings. But specifically looking at rural uneducated poor trump supporters, if they actively support oppressive ideologies and beliefs then you become open to it. Also its not punching down if the criticism are legitimate. You can call out people who are being absurd. Now thats were the subjectivity comes in. Its all about deciding where those lines are for you. You can stand where ever u want but there maybe consquences. Just like being a leftist in deeply conservative areas suffer consquences.",
"> Also its not punching down if the criticism are legitimate.\n\nExcept everybody's thinks their criticism are legitimate. For example, Dave Chappelle's thinks his criticism are legitimate.\n\nSo really the issue isn't punching down it's \"I disagree with this person's opinion.\" Which is fine, but people should label it as such.\n\n> But specifically looking at rural uneducated poor trump supporters, if they actively support oppressive ideologies and beliefs then you become open to it.\n\nUsing that logic it's perfectly acceptable to mock like 90% of the planet then. for example, most Africans support regressive and oppressive policies. So do many Middle Eastern Muslims.\n\nHowever you'd receive far more backlash from Leftists on Twitter mocking Africans than you would if you mocked Trump supporters.\n\n> You can call out people who are being absurd. \n\nOkay so you can make fun of Trans people as much as you want, as long as you're making fun of absurd trans people?\n\nOf course the issue here is what other people consider to be absurd, is \"somebody else's truth.\"\n\nThis is why I hate the argument of \"stop punching down.\" It's unbelievable vague and subjective that it doesn't really have any value as an argument.",
"'freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences\"\n\n&#x200B;\n\nwhat's a consequence? what's a valid consequence for speech?",
"Depends on the speech, its impact, social acceptability, the response from others etc. Im not the supreme decision make on these things. My statement is more an observation of fsct reguarding human nature and society. Even if you can argue your way out of the logic, the reality is what you say and do impacts your life.",
"My position is that what I *say* i.e what opinions I have, what ideas I express, should *not* impact my life.",
"This has never been the case and I would say youre in for a rude awakening. Id also say that it makes no sense and is a childish idea.",
"It's the foundation for the concept of freedom of speech and expression. I understand that I have relationships both personal and professional that can be impacted by the opinions I hold, but in an ideal world, somebody's expression should not be inhibited by the law, or by internet lynch mobs gunning for their job, nothing.\n\nWe need this for a free society. If at any point expressing oneself becomes dangerous for their livelihood or life, then we do *not* live in a free society, and what you're allowed to say becomes dependent on what whoever's in charge wants it to be.\n\nI know it seems silly that I'm invoking tyranny and despotism in reference to comedians getting flak for edgy jokes, but it really must be absolute. The notion of free speech is like a bone that gets whittled away every time somebody gets fired for trying to make people laugh. We cannot wield social pressure against wrongthink with such wild abandon.",
"nope, your censorship will NOT be tolerated\n\nif you're offended just leave and don't go to another show ever again.",
"The irony of this is rich. You're so triggered by my suggesting that Billy Thorpe isn't in the Mosconi Cup because he assaulted someone and used gay slurs at them that you went through my comment history and started replying to past comments... \n\nYou need help.",
"nope\n\neverybody has used offensive language at one time or another\n\nthat's life\n\nstay safe Snowflake",
"Lol… fuck off, dumbass.",
"this isn't golf...this isn't synchronized swimming...it's pool\n\nthere is attitude in the game of pool, if you can't handle it go play another game Snowflake. \n\nbesides, who the fuck are YOU to decide this mans career over one private little blow up. Unfucking believable. some casual fan that will NEVER reach the heights of his game sitting back going 'yeah, you can't say that, your career and everything you've worked for is gone.' \n\nSome serious pretentious, holy-than-though, bullshit. \n\nThe man is a human being. He got a little too heated and made a teensy little mistake. Don't bury him for it."
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George Carlin talking about comedians who pick on minority and underdog groups
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https://youtu.be/mFsxeL9NXn8
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/r/videos/comments/qhw2c4/facebooks_metaverse_sneak_peak/
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"I want this... but I just don't want it from Facebook. I also don't want this creepy Mark guy involved. Who is that weirdo? Couldn't they find better actors? #sarcasm",
"I have oculus 1. If you get the new one, you’re forced to get a FB account. #notworthit",
"What the fuck is this?",
"this reminds me of the scripted video game trailers",
"\"For our next trick, we're going to completely absolve your sensory awareness, so you can experience the true essence of our monotonous, and mundane, soul rotting content.\"\n\nThis is junky territory. I can already see people spending hours zonked in a dirty bed with a head set on, a bong and bottles sitting on the side table.",
"Yeah I have the newest one. Almost didn't pull the trigger because of the FB requirement but the wife really wanted it and she never wants anything tech so it was an opportunity to get a new toy.",
"Happy wife. Happy life. \n\nBut I also suspect that FB has ways of tracking us through every visit to any business that has a FB page instead of a proper website. \n\nWhat games does your wife enjoy?",
"We just use it for working out primarily. Though I play The walking dead game from time to time. Never use it for more than an hour. I really assumed there would be a virtual drum kit on there or something cool like that. Closest was a dj table. Not really a fan of racing games and FPS so it's been a bit of a let down to be honest and the Startrek game requires an internet connection and I have GARBAGE internet so anything that requires internet doesn't really work.",
"This always devolves into anime girls and furry stuff.",
"i need to find great fitness games. i haven't bought beat saber bc I heard the music was limited and gets old quickly. if you have any suggestions, please let me know. quick FYI: the bomb defusing game can be fun for two folks with only one headset.",
"Thanks for the recommendation! We use supernatural for the workouts. They just added a new boxing style work out too. the only problems we ever have is when the internet is at 2mbps or lower the warmups/cool downs don’t load."
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Facebook's Metaverse Sneak Peak
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQJntE70PD0
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/r/videos/comments/qhw9hl/sleeper_cars_are_something_else/
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[
"Well yeah",
"This video got recommended to me randomly by youtube, I have zero clue about the subject matter. \n\nHowever I found some comments that say its a sleeper golf by a guy called bobba. He is known for doing Golf 1-2 with > 1200 hp, V16, 100-200 km/h (62-124 mph) in under 3 seconds.\n\nIf I had any clue about cars I would attempt to build a sleeper too, this looks like a lot of fun and GTIs are fun already as they are.",
"It's always a good idea to put that much power into an old car that doesn't have the handling or safety features needed.\n\nIt's an even better idea to drive like this on public roads. Everyone loves having their lives put in danger because a couple douchbags want to have fun in their cars. \n\nSo cool.",
"Yeah, it's the autobahn, but still not a race track.",
"I believe this is a 2.slow iron block that is being force fed something like 50psi lol.",
"Yeah just watched this bobba guy racing on a straight track and he starts swerving like crazy until he gets to high speed. But the car he drives looks even more monstrous than that in the video so not sure if its the same guy/car.",
"Forgive my ignorance but aren't electrics really good at accelerating from low speeds but then they fall off? My guess is that the guys in this video turn the corner with around 80-120 km/h (50-75 mph) and then start to accelerate... my uneducated guess is that the Porsche is going at around 280 km/h (173 mph) there at the end.",
"It's the autobahn. They put a speed limit on it and accidents INCREASED.\n\nThe old car does have the handling required and is heavily modified. It handles VASTLY better than a brand new unmodified car.\n\nYou are completely ignorant. But you only cared about being angry, who gives a shit about facts.",
"There is literally no way they got 1200hp from a 4 cylinder engine. If that car had 1200hp it would have been more than three times as fast as the porsche. Which it clearly isn't.\n\n1000hp jap modifieds have at least 6 cylinder engines ffs.",
"Facts?\n\nHow on earth do you know for sure that car has the handling modifications it needs? Do you have any idea how common it is to just increase the power and skimp on the handling? \n\nAnd it's the autobahn. Not a race track. \n\nTalk about ignorance.",
"V16 but I'm not sure if its the same guy/car in the video",
"Its a Golf 1, I had a 2 when I was younger and the backside looks different. Iron block describes it well tho.",
"Autobahn has no speed limit. Fuck all to do with being a racetrack. FACT\n\nThat car could do that speed in factory condition. FACT\n\nIgnorance.\n\nYou get to be angry and that's all you care about.",
"BMW got 1,500 HP from a 1.5L inline-4 back in 1986, but that was an F1 engine running in qualifying trim. It’s possible with an absurdly large turbo and enough disregard for engine longevity.\n\nEdit: Not vouching for this car. Just want to point out that it’s not impossible.",
"The \"V16\" you are talking about is a 16 valve engine. You can't fit a 16 cylinder engine in a golf. Literally does not fit.\n\nIf this is the boba car, there is no way those dyno figures are road running power. It would just be constantly blowing up. He wound the boost up to get a nice dyno figure. Even then 1200hp is extremely dubious.",
"That's bait",
"The estimates:\n\nThe people on the right lane would go at around 100-120 km/h (60-75 mph) normal travel speed. The Porsche maxes out at around 320 km/h (200 mph) and hasn't reached full speed yet.",
"He's referring to the size (2.0) and engine type (cast iron block) which is much stronger and more durable than modern aluminum blocks and would be able to handle a lot more boost.",
"Yep I read that wrong:\n\n> Bobas VW Golf Mk2 4Motion 2.0L 16V Turbo street car with 1233HP & 1094Nm @ 64psi on E85 fuel.\n\nGoogle told me 4Motion 2.0L is a 4 cylinder.",
"Damn I haven't driven a car in a long time (live in a big city where a car is just a hassle) and have no clue anymore. Can we go back to talk about how to be a passenger on public transportation? I know all the lingo there.",
"Douche alert 🚨",
"Lada?",
"Boba motoring has some seriously quick 2.0L 16v with gtx turbos with 100+ mm inducer.... With their new dq gearbox installed... they detuned it and lowered their 1/4mi ET.\n\n\nNot sure of that particular rabbit.. Its probably very similar... 2.0L 16v (maybe 20v 1.8t?)\n\nMany moons ago... There was a video going around... Supra porsche and rabbit... \n\nThat rabbit in the supra porsche video... Same thing... 2.0l 16v turbo... That one... In the old video was done by ARC motorsports....\n\nhttps://youtu.be/RwLDk4lFBKg",
"Actually... Vw did...\n\nThey made a mk6 w12 650 ....\n\nBut you clearly are armchair champ",
"Autobahn has suggested limits within urban sections...\n\n\nBut you know a the facts armchair champ",
"Found it. https://www.carthrottle.com/post/this-736hp-mk1-golf-is-a-veedub-youll-reheres-what-a-bonkers-736bhp-mk1-golf-drives-like-ally-want/",
"It's a built car with a roll cage https://www.carthrottle.com/post/this-736hp-mk1-golf-is-a-veedub-youll-reheres-what-a-bonkers-736bhp-mk1-golf-drives-like-ally-want/",
"> handling or safety features needed.\n\nNever driven a VW I see.",
"Piss off",
"I have an unmodded VW GTI, 2.0 turbo. Even that thing fucking slapps.",
"Why is he in the left lane?",
"I was talking to a friend the other day about this video. He'd never seen it and just started laughing when the Golf appeared, and left them both.",
"And a sport bike would smoke your Tesla.\n\nSome people like making their cars fast. Not just buying them fast.",
"I own a 87 GTI and from the way that sexy ass MK1 looks, I know its not a sleeper.\n\n\nIt looks well taken care of and the wheels give away its not a slouch of a car.",
"4Motion is the name of VW’s awd system\n\nMost VW’s come with a 2.0L 4cyl turbo as the stock engine, but this one has very little that is still stock, performance wise",
"Correct, its a MK1 Golf but its got the 2.0 16v motor with a big ol turbo on it.",
"87 GTI here, 1.8 8v fully built.\n\nSadly she is in pieces, the front sub frame is bent and I am having trouble hunting down another one",
"\\>but that was an F1 engine\n\nSo not a modified road vehicle engine?\n\nThanks for the strawman.",
"Feel free to dispute either fact. But you won't, cos you know I'm right.",
"Since when is a W12 a V16?\n\nCan you count? Champ.",
"This was not within those sections. Champ.",
"Sick! I miss my gti vr6.\n. First, and best car I've ever had",
"people who race on public roads are idiots",
"Woah dentist alert! Check out his braided belt and his son Kyler.",
"Exactly what I was thinking. I wouldn’t look at a modded MKI and think it was a sleeper. I don’t think anyone is going through the trouble of keeping an MKI running 40 years later so that they can keep it bone stock as a daily driver.",
"Please tell me you are joking or are you naive and dont know what the Autobahn is....",
"my truck is something like this. no 'farm truck' to be sure but i enjoy having power. compound turbos, 350hp injectors, high durration cam, arp top and bottom end, bored and stroked, plus drive line mods. 10K lbs 1 ton diesel that does 0-60 in sub 5.5 seconds\n\nalso 37\" tires and dented/rusted to fuck",
"A w 12 isn’t a w16 and and mk6 isn’t and MKI.\n\nMy brother did a VR6 swap on his MK2 when we were young and it barely fits - and a w12 is basically 2 VR6s. I don’t think your appreciating how much smaller the MKI was compared to anything MKIV and later.",
"This is on the autobahn - passing on the right is illegal.",
"These are the people I wish police would pull over. Meanwhile here’s me getting pulled over going 80 so I could pass aggressive drivers. Fml",
"thought this was going to be about trains with orgy cars",
"Actually, the BMW “Megatron” F1 engine (M12) used a lowly M10 engine block design out of a vanilla BMW sedan.",
"It’s the autobahn, there is no speed limit?",
"sounds more like _some assembly required_ than _fully built_",
"\"While much of Germany's autobahn highway network has no speed limits, around 30 percent of the network does limit drivers to 130km/h (80 mph) or lower. Holding races on any public roads — speed limited or not — is illegal.\"",
"What do you think it means race-track in German or something? You're acting way too incredulous for how stupid of a comment that is.",
"This is a highway sir. Also he didn't expect to get overtaken.",
"Then he shouldn't be in the left lane.",
"[Boy do you look stupid](https://imgur.com/NspF68O)",
"What about this is a race?",
"lol",
"https://youtu.be/aI9eU1e0WsM",
"It's mostly in the way that the three cars in the video are competing to see who can pass one another.",
"My guess he’s they’re calling you a stuck up rich white guy?",
"Not my words. I don’t have a dog in the fight. I was just trying to decipher the meaning.",
"[Could be worse. Could look like a complete liar.](https://i.imgur.com/xzsOnzB.jpg)",
"Jesus people cant take an obvious joke",
"This video is older than my balls",
"... mostly \n\n-Newt",
"No no, the engine is fully built\n\nThe car is not =P",
"Way to double down.",
"Anyone who has played Need For Speed knows the terrors of a modded Mark 1 Golf. Understeer for days but they are absolute rockets.",
"You're so right.. Omg... How could I have ever forgotten how much room there really actually is when you do an r36 swap...\n\nBut I guarantee you don't know shit about swapping r36",
"there's a huge difference between high speed driving and actually racing other drivers.",
"Erm, the execution was really bad",
"That's why there's a driving lane and a passing lane.",
"I don't have a Golf but doing this to old cars seems like a fun thing to do.",
"This looks a lot like Boba Motoring: https://www.youtube.com/c/BobaMotoring/videos",
"Am I wrong or is the Porsche not seemingly racing with the Golf at all and not on the throttle? Looks like he laid off after smoking the Z to me...",
"Ima need your drag logs on that 0-60 5.5 there bud",
"This one always has me laughing. When he points to the speedo and it's just off the end of the scale :D\n\n&#x200B;\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbguTArNHiw",
"German here, so I know what the Autobahn is. This would be classified as racing and is highly illegal.",
"We didn’t swap an r36. We swapped a VR6 from a Corrado into an MKII Golf. This was in the early 2000’s so the 3.6 was still hard/expensive to source while VR6s from MKIII GTIs were easy to get. We actually swapped the full subframe. My brother bought a wrecked Corrodo vR6 and basically followed a guide on dropping and swapping. The only part we didn’t physically do ourselves was the welding as we didn’t have the skills.",
"Because he's an idiot who doesn't understand the flow of traffic and respect other drivers.",
"It really wasn't. You are over simplfying things so people who know nothing thing you are right. F1 engines have very very little to do with roadgoing engines.\n\nNot a road car. Not an engine for a road car. Strawman bad.",
"1500HP VW Golf **Twin Engine** \\+ Twin Turbo \"**VR12** TT\"\n\nA car with two v6 engines? Is that a V16?\n\nMotherfucker can you count?",
"I was going to say, VW aside that's either a REALLY fast Z or the GT3 didn't know he was racing.",
"Auto = car\nBahn = path, pathway, road, course, etc...\n\nAutobahn = carpath = Road for cars",
"Isn't the car featured in the video breaking Autobahn rules? He was undertaken twice and so should've yielded to the inside lane. The other two cars are also breaking the rules undertaking so they're all in error.",
"They are all in the wrong. Driver in featured car should've not been in the left lane as soon as it came clear he did not have the acceleration to justify being there.",
"Yes, I believe the technical term is a \"gang of idiots\".",
"meh I thought it was funny.",
"How old are your balls? Asking for a friend.",
"I saw this on one of those thug life videos. It's funny when they have that riding dirty song playing.",
"I've seen this video so many times before, and I'm a fan of sleeper cars. But for some damn reason this time I genuinely thought this was a post about Amtrak.\n\nedit: I love sleeper cars so much, I just about lost it a few months ago when I saw an Audi RS6 Avant on the turnpike and I kept asking my wife to try and take pictures of it.",
"At least 3",
"[Is... Is this you?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM9jhGiIAFM)",
"Driver looks Aryan.",
"Woah. Calm down there. It was just a link. I figured maybe you’d think it was cool. Sorry for bothering you."
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"Cool",
"he forgot about adobe valoran",
"The character animator thing is pretty neat. I dabbled with flash animation as a kid, and doing all the lipsyncing stuff is soul crushing.\n\nBeing able to just facetrack that shit would save an insane amount of time for small content creators who want to use animation in youtube videos and stuff. Like what Joel Haver did with the image interpolation thing he uses.\n\nIt's no substitute for the high quality animation you get from some youtube animators, but youtube kind of punishes that sort of high work low runtime content.",
"wait... cold fusion is still being used? WTF",
"Flash was a great program. That character animator is fairly cool. Make your character in photoshop or illustrator. Do your transitions in Animate then all your vocal work with Character Animator and Audition then run it through After Effects or Premiere.",
"This video is 10 minutes and 19 seconds long. Misleading title"
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"Dune (1984) hasn't really aged well In my opinion , and I always loved that film :(",
"The music and acting is still much better imo. Dune 2021 is almost boring if the soundtrack of screaming natives didn't keep me alert.",
"This movie has really sold to me the concept of how little \"I read the book\" qualifies you to judge the film.",
"the old movie is much better i agree completely. the first scene we see the baron can be a perfect example of how much more gripping and rich the narratively is.",
"I'm so glad you mentioned that scene, I've been using it in discussions about Dune frequently. Lynch had more creative diversity and depth than DV and many actors on the original cast were better trained actors, least of which being Patrick Stewart. \n\nOr perhaps the average person's taste has changed and directors have merely swapped to *selling entertainment* instead of *creating art*. Just now I went to check what other films DV made I might know...2049 had the same problems as Dune imo lol. They're both quite visually stunning works and no small amount of work or artistic taste is put into delivering such brilliant scapes. They just lack depth in characters and narrative, and seem to ride off the audience bringing it in from the source material. This movie was made for those who are familiar with the story, and that cheapens it even further for me because it still feels like a cheap action/emotion sci-fi not so far removed from the likes of The Avengers. Either embody the strange lore and crazy concepts or make a truly consumable movie; they failed to do either entirely.\n\nHe so minimally represented the intriguing strangeness of the Dune universe and the heavier metaphysical/spiritual concepts it portrays. The mentat ritual, the sleeper must awaken, the raw terrifying mess that is the Baron and the House Harkonen, the *folding of space* and what kind of mentality evolution must lead to such abilities, the Voice; it was all canned and for what? Who are they going to scare off? Why get rid of some of the most ironic quotes and concepts? Why dumb down the whole thing to feel more like *our* lame ass civilization/culture? Why are some of the best scenes so poorly delivered...like the box scene...we just watched a young man get telepathically pep talked through a hard bowel movement. The lines were so meekly delivered, nobody really seemed all that concerned about what was happening, Gaius was hardly intimidating or expressive. The box looked cool, her outfit looked cool, they got excellent lighting on Paul's bulging neckvein but I didn't feel an echo of sympathy or urgency for Paul. The whole scene was rushed, like many important/iconic scenes, while we got tons of screen time watching giant ass ships take off or land with some huge slow doors opening or closing thrown in for fun.\n\nTheir narrative is delivered sporadically and infrequently by mumbled lines scattered among seemingly unimportant dialogues. Hearing the characters' thoughts in Lynch Dune was a practical and well executed means of exposition as it not only builds the character, it naturally informs the audience about relevant details. It helps guide them into what the nature of a given interaction is. Despite showing a meeting between Shadam IV and the Guild Navigators technically not being in the book, it replaces pages and pages of background the book lays out about the Emperor's motivation for killing of the Atreides and the power structure of the Guild and the Landsraad.\n\nChrist I could go on forever about it. The movie disappoints me for delivering such a spectacular visual experience and being not that great at anything else. I can't believe they would commit the sin of creating a Part 1 without even knowing if they would shoot part 2. For such an overall poorly handled cinematic history, they dared to once again leave Dune fans hanging. Risking that outcome, among other things, reveals, at least to me, a general disrespect for the source material. Again, it feels like highly funded entertainment, not art. Being visually stunning is not great film, it's a fireworks show."
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"Clever guy",
"very touching video from the World Congress of Human Traffickers and Pedophiles, but I wonder who is in a better position to address China and India's carbon output: them, or the guy writing this with cheeto dust caught in his arm hair?",
"I mean, if you want change to happen, get rid of Veto power for the 5.\n\nLiterally THE ENTIRE WORLD voted on lifting the blockade on Cuba a while back, and because Israel and The U.S., a permanent member with veto power, said no, it didn't happen. Like, it was ridiculous. The entire board was completely green with YES votes and there was two little reds with the U.S. and bitch boy Israel doing whatever Daddy says going 'no.'\n\nSo nothing happened, and Cubans are suffering because the U.S. just wants them to. The UN is almost as useless as the Democratic Party.",
"You would literally just get countries ignoring the UN even more.",
"Going extinct is a Bad thing.\nNice video.",
"Then what's the point? It's a finger wagging organization then, and not the world police it should be.",
"THE ENTIRE WORLD also doesn't give two rat's asses who or what suffers for their own betterment and *regularly* overlooks human rights violations for the sake of profits **while** saying the US is some dystopian hellhole of Capitalist excess like that excuses them being arrogant assholes. So yeah I'd rather some one who isn't some psychotic pack of preening primates have at least a eay to say \"god damn that's a stupjd idea\" when those imbeciles propose such a thing.",
"You're wrong. The majority of people on earth care about climate change. The majority of the people on earth thing what China is doing to it's Muslims is genocide. The majority of the people on earth think Israel is committing war crimes. This apathy lens you see the world through is an American creation.",
"It seems relevant here, so hopefully it's ok if I paste this comment of mine that I'm trying to edit down:\n\n-----\n\nThe global average CO2 level is ~415ppm, up from the 1850 baseline level of ~280ppm. The last time CO2 levels were at or above 400ppm was during the Pliocene Era; the mid-Pliocene warm period (3.3 Ma–3 Ma) is considered an analog for future climate. **The global average temperature in the mid-Pliocene was +(3-4)C, and global sea level was 17-25 meters higher as a result.**\n\nSince 1950, the global average CO2 ppm has risen many times faster than ever seen in the geologic record. **Resulting higher temperature and sea levels are simply lagging behind because the CO2 increase has been unnaturally fast (heating lags behind CO2 rise, and melting/sea level rise lags behind heating)**, but they're coming unless the CO2 level can start lowering from 400ppm almost immediately. That's not happening. A realistic best-case projection has emissions continuing, the CO2 concentration rising for years and remaining above 400ppm for at least a century, and our climate becoming more like that in the mid-Pliocene. I would be surprised if CO2 doesn't exceed 500ppm before it declines.\n\nThe eventual temperature increase we should expect simply from staying at the current CO2 level is ~(+3)C and higher unless methane emissions aren't also curbed. Just to achieve this, we would have to go to net zero CO2/methane emissions today because CO2 hangs around for a long time: [between 300 to 1,000 years](https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2915/the-atmosphere-getting-a-handle-on-carbon-dioxide/). Obviously that isn't happening and is impossible. [Neither CO2 nor methane emissions have even peaked yet](https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions), much less started to decline, MUCH less reached net zero. **This is what people mean when they say that certain outcomes are already baked in to existing conditions.**\n\nMany people misunderstand what an increase in the global *average* temp means. What studies of the Pliocene era indicate, and what current temp measurements confirm, is that the temp increase varies considerably with latitude. The increase is many times greater near the poles and minimal near the equator. The global average temp increase is therefore somewhat misleading in terms of its effect on sea level rise due to melting ice; at +3C average, temps where most of the world's glacial ice exist actually increase by 10-15C.\n\nFor decades there has been a false-choice debate over whether the responsibility for correcting global warming falls more on corporations or more on consumers. The responsibility has actually always been on governments. Governments had the only authority to regulate industry and development, the only ability to steer the use of technology through taxes and subsidies, the greatest ability to build public opinion toward environmentalism, and the greatest responsibility to do all these things. Global warming is the failure of governments to resist corruption and misinformation and govern for the public good. Governments failing to do their job is the most accurate and productive way to view the problem. The only real levers that people have to correct the problem are in government. The ideas that consumers can directly convince corporations to 'save the environment', or that consumers can 'save the environment' directly by carefully selecting from consumers' choices and by being mindful, are utter pipe dreams by comparison. Making it about corporations vs individuals leaves governments that failed to do their job less accountable, and it diverts people's efforts into unproductive directions that leave governments and corporations free to continue the status quo.\n\nOne problem with telling people that an impossibly optimistic goal is somehow possible (like limiting warming to +1.5C) is that then people don't prepare for what will actually happen - and governments don't do everything they should to address the problem. This is what we've seen over all the decades leading up to now, so continuing to promote dishonest optimism and expecting a different result would be irrational. It would mean that in coastal areas as stormwater systems start backing up, and ghost forests grow, and building foundations become unstable, and the lower income demographics are left behind in a real estate market collapse due to climate flight, we'll have more suffering and financial loss by those least able to 'weather' it than if governments had taken a pro-active approach based on honest predictions.\n\nIn a sense, climate or CO2 goals are not the immediate issue. The issue is whether people are willing to face even the minimum, inevitable climate outcomes - vs continued denial - and then use government for its intended purpose. It is an 'all hands on deck' situation, because doing anything less will make it even worse. Yet we don't even have a basic carbon tax system in place, which is probably the only way that governments can adequately incentivize industries to reduce carbon emissions and to create a scalable DAC industry funded by businesses wanting to purchase carbon credits. Even achieving global net zero CO2 emissions won't be enough; it will take net NEGATIVE emissions to bring the CO2 level down within the next 500 years. This won't happen until the public is told the truth, and accepts it - and gets mad enough to force governments to do their job.\n\nThat was the good news, relatively. The bad news is that [atmospheric carbon dioxide causes ocean acidification](https://news-oceanacidification-icc.org/2021/06/22/plastic-and-toxic-chemical-induced-ocean-acidification-will-cause-a-plankton-crisis-that-will-devastate-humanity-over-the-next-25-years-unless-we-act-now-to-stop-the-pollution/) and it's looking like we have about 25 years before a trophic cascade collapse is irreversible. This is a much more immediate threat from CO2 than global warming in that it affects the food supply for 2 billion people soon, yet many climate activists seem unaware of it.\n\nedit:\n\nSomeone always says *'But the people elect their government so it's the people's fault, not the governments'*. That's a common response that I disagree with for two reasons:\n\n1. The US has a first-past-the-post voting system [that is guaranteed to foster a 2-party (only) system](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law), that prevents people from voting for their actual first choice candidate, and both of the electable candidates are chosen by those corporate-funded parties. Consequently ~99% of state and federal government leaders are effectively selected by a corporate-funded duopoly, not a \"government of the people, by the people, for the people\".\n\n2. Shifting the blame down to non-government individuals is taking reductionism too far, i.e. reducing the analysis to 'all eligible voters' takes away the ability to identify **systemic** problems because the systems are composed of people. Groups that have powerful influence and groups with neglible influence are both made of people. So it's counterproductive in analyzing the issue, because it doesn't tell us which groups of people we need to address.\n\nI don't want to veer off into politics, but in the US it would silly and unhelpful to equate the culpability of the average voter with the culpability of the POTUS or Congresspeople. It's not so much about 'blaming certain people' as it is about identifying which POSITIONS with the most influence on the issue must act appropriately.",
"I hope this message gets to the 10 year olds out there because I'm not sure who the demo is. Feels like a waste of their efforts.",
"Honestly kind of an annoying/frustrating video. What power do I have to stop fucking fossil fuel subsidies?\n\nThe idiots who vote for the idiots who support that shit, are idiots who aren't gonna be swayed by a cutesy CGI fucking dinosaur (which half of them don't even fucking believe existed).\n\nLiterally the only people who would care about this video are people who already care about climate change.\n\nAnd yet, I get that we have to make videos like this, otherwise that voice dies. And that's even more fucking frustrating.\n\nAt this point, all I feel is: if we reach extinction we deserve extinction.",
"> What power do I have to stop fucking fossil fuel subsidies?\n\n\"voting\"",
"You’re right! The US and it’s billionaires are the ONLY folks caring about the world. Literally everyone else are just Neanderthals. \n\n/s for the non-bootlicking people\n\nBut on a real, how can any American boast about democracy then say yea but we say no so therefore what we says goes. Some serious mental disconnect there",
"Rocket Velociraptor",
"Whoa, is that Jack Black?",
"I’m getting a Chris Evans vibe for some reason",
"I'm not saying how there is a threat in Cuba, I'm saying that the UN is useless as an institution because instead of in representing what the world believes what we should do geopolitically, it actually serves the interests of the big five. The entire world, 6-7 billion people, believe that we should lift the blockade in Cuba. And yet we don't because the U.S. says so.\n\nAnd can you honestly believe that the Democratic Party isn't useless when they control the house, the senate, and the executive branch and yet they still can't get ANYTHING done because a corrupt senator from West Virginia cares more about his widely known publicly available gifts from corporations more than helping people in the U.S.? How on earth is that democracy even? It's literally one of the most insanely blatantly corrupt things to happen in years, and yet the Democrats will do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about it.\n\nExcept maybe lose in 2024, like they usually do.",
"Who was their targeted demographic here?",
"At this point, I'm convinced that \"voting\" is little more than a shibboleth for progressives who don't want to admit that the necessary changes are never going to come from within the system. Who am I supposed to vote for in this situation? How can I possibly hold them accountable when they renege on their campaign promises -- which is an openly-acknowledged practice in America? For that matter, how are non-Americans supposed to vote? How many of them are capable of voting at all? \n\n\nThe only possible \"vote\" that might mean anything is voting with your dollar. We need to cut it out with this dingenous \"climate change is driven by 100 companies\" bullshit and admit that we are complicit in what those companies do. We buy the cars, we buy the gas, and we buy the goddamn Funko Pop Figures. The only thing that might persuade them to do away with this garbage is if it becomes unprofitable. \n\n\nI don't know about the rest of the world, but I don't think the average American is willing to give up their cars and their fast food and their trinkets. We've engineered a whole society of people who willingly pay to be poisoned.",
"I figured the next part of my comment made it pretty clear I'm aware of, and already doing, that. And is it working?\n\nMy point was, anybody who this video is even remotely going to touch, is already voting against it. And it ain't doing shit, because too many right-wing nutjobs,selfish assholes, climate deniers, or stubborn ride-or-die partisan voters are voting the other way. And none of those groups are gonna be swayed by an argument like this one.",
"That is exactly the point: there was no existential threat from Cuba and yet the U.S. still voted to maintain a ridiculous blockage. The point of the analogy is to say that the U.S. does not use its veto power rationally and that this is a problem because it can stop something from happening even if the whole world agrees it should -- like with Cuba.",
"What does the blockade of Cuba have anything to do with climate change or extinction",
"This is just too corny to be taken seriously. \n\n\nIt should have shown very graphic images of people's houses on fire in California and the destruction caused by the series of hurricanes we just had or projected images of Miami underwater and half the population of the world starving. \n\n\nYou can't shock people into action and entertain them at the same time. Jesus Christ, this is like if a mime tried to warn you about a fire.",
"What if most people simply don't care about extinction since it's the kids/grandkids that will suffer through it?",
"How much money was spent in this ad that could have fed children. Stupid ad just like the utterly stupid UN.",
"Blaming governments rather than corporations is like blaming the car for a car accident but not the driver.",
"It is indeed [Jack Black](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10135227/amp/Save-species-UN-uses-dinosaur-fossil-fuel-message.html).\n\nEdit: Formatting",
"Allen!",
"Should be the #1 reason to vote imo. There is lots consumers can do to lower their footprint as well.",
"probably not as many kids will die from starvation as climate change.",
"I'm not seeing that analogy.\n\nI'd say it's like blaming the faulty stoplight that was supposed to stop drivers and manage traffic.\n\nedit:\n\nCorporations are only obligated to follow the laws and regulations. Certainly many broke the laws and regs that existed, but that's an insignificant contributor to the problem compared to the inadequacy of the laws and regs (and enforcement) in the first place. [Regulatory capture](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture) has always been an issue.",
"This is cheesy and stupid. Make a real policy change or don't some stupid ass marketing company making a few million to have a raptor scold us is fucking pointless.",
"Has \"Never Again!\" Germany banned all imports from China? Ya know, a country with massive concentration camps they are super against? Does Germany deny that sweet sweet Holocaust 2: Trouble in China Town investment capital? Nah.",
"Philosiraptor has arrived at the UN.",
"We're so fucked. I'm just glad I'm old enough that I'll be dead before shit really hits the fan.\n\nThis is what a culture of greed and anti-intellectualism gets you.",
"I hope the people in power, the people with billions in their pockets take it to heart. I'm not sure the average person can do much in terms of big change.",
"The amount of bootlicking replies to this by “hurr durr america” guys is astounding",
"All of us? It's a bit silly, but we all watched it didn't we?",
"Right? I'm so confused. The average world leader who gets their news from CGI internet publicity stunt videos? Citizens who will see this and then pressure their democratically elected officials to do something?\n\nThe people who made this video obviously aren't UN delegates, it was made by a VFX studio that has no say in global policy. Is this just supposed to convince the world that people in charge are doing something?",
"Yes...people need that damn fear so its real.",
"The primary purpose of the United Nations is to facilitate peaceful diplomatic exchange between its member nations. Smaller nations may be at the whim of UNSC resolutions, but there's no way a country like the US, which has stated they'll use whatever force necessary to protect their war criminals from the ICC, would participate if they didn't have veto power.",
"To paraphrase from Community regarding the UN *\"a fundamentally symbolic organization founded on the principles of high-minded rhetoric and empty gestures.\"*",
"Cool I think I'll stop destroying the world now",
"ngl that caught me off guard and made me flinch in the theater when I saw it",
"Not only that but why would they ever willing give up that power? It's not like it can be taken from them... because they have veto power. \n\nThe idea that any country would voluntarily and intentionally diminish their own presence on the world stage is bordering on the absurd.",
"The government is the driver in this analogy, not corporations.",
"I personally think everyone should just imagine what a zero carbon future looks like and do our best to emulate and move towards that.\n\n- Pressure businesses and buy from businesses that are mimicking what a zero carbon economy looks like\n\n- Vote for policy and parties that mimick what a zero carbon future looks like\n\n- Try your best to emulate and act out how you you'll have eventually to anyway under a zero carbon lifestyle.\n\n**It's what we got to do eventually anyway?** \n\nAll this talking. \n\nMay as well just try our best across the board to get there. \n\nNo one's saying sacrifice everything, just move at a pace that shifts towards the inevitability anyway.\n\n(I really don't get the whole 'blame' game thing people keep shifting around - but sometimes I feel it's the new disinformation campaign by fossil fuel companies to encourage inaction and apathy)",
"i actually still think its okay moment IN CONTEXT but when people use it out of context it is pretty hilarious",
"I bet if we stop eating meat we will make china’s output decrease/s",
"I disagree (didn’t downvote). The majority of people on earth have no idea what is happening to the climate or cares. And the majority of people on earth have never even heard of the Muslims being persecuted in China. The majority of people on earth are very uneducated about worldwide political affairs unfortunately. Maybe I’m just an extreme pessimist",
"No, it's a dinosaur.",
"I'm sure this will change some minds.",
"Governments force corporations to comply with rules and regulations, at least ideally, and we can better force a government to enact those rules/regulations than we could a corporation, at least ideally. You can vote to elect a politician who would support policies, you can't do shit about what a corporation does of its own voilition, especially when its not breaking any laws.\n\nYes corporations share a huge part of the blame, but expecting them to do anything, when a corporation is basically just an amoral black hole designed only to suck in more money, is a fool's game. So it's our government's job to actually *do* something about this.",
"Fine-A-Fuckingly, we are talking about saving the species and not the planet. I could give a fuck about the planet honestly. It will be fine. Once we ruin our environment, after a few million years this place will be a utopia again. We need to be talking about how the human race, arguably the most advanced species on this rock, is literally looking at extinction within the next couple hundred years. So, not much.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nEdit: OBV I care about the planet, but I care about the human race more and we need to survive.",
"He means governments are working at the behest of corporations the same way a car does what a driver tells them to do",
"It is a corporation's fiduciary duty to try and create as much profit as \nlegally possible.\n\nIt is the government's job to limit what is legally possible. \n\nIt's the public's job to hold the government accountable. \n\nAlso if corporations were the only thing influencing politicians we wouldn't even have a minimum wage let alone half the other worker's rights we have codified into law. and because I can see this strawman coming from a million miles away, no I am not saying that means corporations have no influence on lawmakers, simply that they are not the grand puppeteers most people online make them out to be. \n\nThe real \"blackpill\" when it comes to politics is that the reality is there is an astonishing amount of political power up for grabs nearly for free it just requires active participation by the American people. Literally just voting in midterm elections dramatically amplifies your political power because the majority of eligible Americans don't even vote in midterms... \n\nThat one act alone nearly doubles your political power and believe me when I say that is only the very *tip* of the iceberg. Doing something as simple as showing up to town hall meetings on a regular basis will yield a truly surprising amount of political power on a local level, something that requires no experience or political acumen. \n\nPoliticians listen to those who get involved, not because of some altruistic goal to do good, but because the people who actually get involved are the ones who will ultimately decide their fates. Most people don't and the ones that do are disproportionately old and wealthy because those are the people with the most free time and resources on their hands, as a result that's who politicians listen to. If we want to change that we need to change who gets involved and that means young people and it means poor people, the two groups who currently participate the least.\n\nThe truth no one wants to hear is that creating political change will take sacrifice on all of our parts, not sacrificing luxuries or even necessarily money but instead the one thing many value even more, our time.\n\nEdit: for anyone who has a legitimate desire to learn more about the absurd amount of political power free for the taking in our country I HIGHLY recommend the book [Politics Is for Power, by Eitan Hersh](https://www.amazon.com/Politics-Power-Beyond-Political-Hobbyism/dp/1982116781)",
"Going to use this thread to say me using fucking straws is not going to ruin tge world, banning straws doesnt do anything but screw regular people. Large corporations are responsible for whats going on. Stop passing the responsibility to the people who cant do anything and are scraping by in life. Thank you for listening to my psa.",
"The UN is certainly a dinosaur, they got that part right.",
"LOL the \"UN\" pft...",
"I think everybody on reddit and meme culture is pretty much in agreement of what climate change is about and what needs to be done. Wasted energy.",
"The veto power exists so that nuclear nations don't get pissed and start a nuclear war to get what they want. It quite possibly has saved us from entering world war 3.",
"World leaders. Dinosaurs relate best to their own kind.",
"Who the fuck is the target audience for this?\n\n\nWe don’t need to be told this, we know things are fucked! we have been saying things are fucked for a very long time now, the ones who need to listen are the ones who can change it But they’re not listening to fact based evidence I don’t think they’re going to give a shit about a fucking CGI dinosaur.",
"Like this is gonna make a bit of fucking difference\n\n44% of Americans don't think climate change is human caused\n\nSo we are actually all fucked\n\nBecause of Newt Gingrich to Mitch McConnell to Fox News\n\nAnd bolsonaro\n\nAnd Russia\n\nAnd china didn't help but at least they're doing some green shit\n\nedit: China is definitely the worst, though it does seem like every so often they do more green projects than we do",
"nah, i think youre right. i suspect the other guy was extrapolating the worlds opinion based on his own. but theres several billion people on the earth who are poor as shit and are just trying to get through the day in one piece - i dont think they would give much of a shit what Israel or china are doing if theyre even aware of it in the first place.",
"You got some weird ears amigo.",
"The planet will be fine, it's been through a lot worse than humans.\nThe people are fucked though and we had it coming to us, good riddance.",
"Going extinct is inevitable. 95% of the species that have ever lived are extinct. How many kids could this PSA's budget have fed?",
"No, that's NATO.",
"And if you live in a democratic country, you may as well shift the blame to the populace.",
"China is the #1 emitter. Fill your brain with facts.",
"If you want climate action in the US then vote for more Democrats. \n\nWe are already getting some things done in the reconciliation bill. But Manchin blocked some of the more aggressive measures. More can be done with more Democrats. \n\nAnd don't give me that both sides are the same bs. They're not. Republicans don't believe in climate change, and won't do anything about it.",
"Exactly. What the fuck are we supposed to do. It’s the politicians and companies who need to change and do something. We don’t have any power over that.",
"The car is the corporation. The government is the driver.\n\nThe old man crossing the road is the planet.\n\nAnd the citizens are the brakes.",
">What power do I have to stop fucking fossil fuel subsidies?\n\nBuying an electric car.\n\nYou know, things the average person in the world can do.",
"He's a method actor. He is just getting ready for his role as Bowser.",
"Don't forget the polar bear on ice!",
"Yeah, Jurassic Park really made me want to recycle.",
"People who think Jack Black is a scientist.",
"BRAVO *chef kiss*",
"We're most likely the first species aware that we will go extinct and maybe we could do something about it.\n\nBut yeah, our time will come. This video didn't inspire me.",
"https://www.southparkstudios.com/video-clips/y7xyt1/south-park-randy-s-theory\n\nToo close in tone to parody. I really hope things do change though. Pretty much all I can do though is vote and hope.",
"Id say a cross between those that like Jurassic Park and Kung Fu panda that's a generation bridging ven diagram",
"Is this politics on r/videos?",
"Reddit has a hardon for turning literally any topic into \"Well what about America?\"",
"The difference being that a car is supposed to do what its driver tells it.",
"Your comment makes me feel hopeless and a great sense of dread for a slow and painful death of life on this planet. Why do you chose not to focus on the solutions after saying all of this? This type of post, whilst informative, I fear only inspires hopelessness and apathy. It’s one thing to be right about how shit things are and it’s another entirely to inspire change and get people engaged. I honestly think this is the kind of thing that turns people off the climate debate. A barrage of the most depressing facts. Scaring people into action is part of moving towards a solution but it’s also destructive.",
"Corporations have a disproportionate amount of influence on the populace. There have been public campaigns to shift the narrative onto individuals, which were actually quite successful. We are all responsible to an extent, but it should also follow that people in positions of power are disproportionately responsible.",
"Touching, but this video absolutely targets the wrong people. Most normal citizens don't want to continue subsidizing oil, but we don't hold any decision making power. The politicians and lobbyists (corporations) are the ones that need their minds changed. They aren't sitting around watching these kinds of videos with readily changed priorities.\n\nOur species is fucked, the true powers that be won't feel the consequences for generations after the people do.",
"Underrated comment",
"Who do you think is greasing those gov palms? \n\nJust look at manchin and sinema right now. We have the most ambitious plans to date to tackle these issues.... and they keep getting cut smaller and smaller to the point they will mean nothing all because those two are bought & paid",
"Hot take: The vast majority of Reddit users are American and common sense dictates that they'll likely talk about America.",
"Most normal citizens don't want to eat less and walk more. consume more and drive to get it. Don't like big trucks stop buying stuff? especially the stuff you don't need.",
"> but they're coming unless the CO2 level can start lowering from 400ppm almost immediately. That's not happening.\n\nHow likely is removing carbon from the atmosphere an option? Like, I know it probably can be done, but can it be done on a large enough scale to make a difference?\n\nSurely if we could remove the carbon and store it (be it in plants or in tanks), that would effectively solve the problem immediately and we could even continue use of fossil fuels, no?",
"Yeah, obviously the people who think Alex Jones is a scientist won't care for this.",
"Agreed, we shouldn't subsidize anything. Screw crony capitalism.",
"What save us from WW3 is MAD. You just don't touch nuclear ever. Nothing is worth that.",
"fuck the UN",
"What’s NATO got to do with China nuking India? Or Russia?",
"My kids. I think that should be shown at schools and then discussed with kids, who would probably go home and ask their parents about it. Me, I’d say awesome question and have a discussion about how the raptor was right. Another kid would ask his parents and they’d say the school was full of commies, and then those kids would get in to who’s parents were right and nothing changes, so we all die off in a few hundred years. But I liked the dinosaur, they must have spent a good amount on that and Jacks voice.",
"It was never meant to be the world police. It was created in an attempt to avoid ww3. It didn’t work for the League of Nations after ww1, so they made changes and tried a somewhat different approach.",
"Obviously it is you, you fucking retard. You're so god damned stupid you are going to end the entire fucking Earth, even though you have literally no control over it. \n\nGod, this CGI dinosaur, voiced by Jack Black, is so right. You're trash and deserve the blame for everything. Fuck you, you useless piece of shit.",
"politicians aren't going to do anything, they only listen to the billionares, and they already made their choice, hence why they're visiting space; they're scoping out the real estate.",
"Isn't the veto power only for the Security Council though? What does that have to do with climate resolutions?",
"Honestly it's not a democray. It's a capitalist democracy. A bourgeoisie democracy. Democracy in name and theatrics yes but clearly run by money and the ones who own that money.",
"That's a common response that I disagree with for two reasons:\n\n1. The US has a first-past-the-post voting system [that is guaranteed to foster a 2-party (only) system](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law), that prevents people from voting for their actual first choice candidate, and both of the electable candidates are chosen by those corporate-funded parties. Consequently ~99% of state and federal government leaders are effectively selected by a corporate-funded duopoly, not a \"government of the people, by the people, for the people\".\n\n2. Shifting the blame down to non-government individuals is taking reductionism too far, i.e. reducing the analysis to 'all eligible voters' takes away the ability to identify **systemic** problems because the systems are composed of people. Groups that have powerful influence and groups with neglible influence are both made of people. So it's counterproductive in analyzing the issue, because it doesn't tell us which groups of people we need to address.\n\nI don't want to veer off into politics, but in the US it would silly and unhelpful to equate the culpability of the average voter with the culpability of the POTUS or Congresspeople e.g.",
"I agree with the Velociraptor, we should subsidize meteors.",
"**[Duverger's law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger's_law)** \n \n >In political science, Duverger's law holds that single-ballot plurality-rule elections (such as first past the post) structured within single-member districts tend to favor a two-party system. [T]he simple-majority single-ballot system favours the two-party system. The discovery of this tendency is attributed to Maurice Duverger, a French sociologist who observed the effect and recorded it in several papers published in the 1950s and 1960s. In the course of further research, other political scientists began calling the effect a \"law\" or principle.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)",
"I understand what you're saying, but I personally disagree. Individuals vote at the polls and they vote with their wallets.\n\nAs someone who uses Amazon 3-4 times a month and absolutely loves beef, I'm not going to sit here and absolve myself of any responsibility for the shit we're in.\n\nCorporations are in positions of power because of consumers. I\"m not about to stop being a consumer, so all I can do is vote for candidates I think will reign in the corporations on my behalf.\n\nAnd then shake my head when 90% of the state I live in votes against their own best interests.",
"The most unbelievable thing about this video is not the dinosaur speaking English to the body of the UN, but the fact that at the end of its speech, everyone in attendance seemed to agree and stand to applaud.\n\nedit: I didn't mean \"speaking English\" as in speaking a language and everyone could understand. I meant it as \"speaking a human language.\" Dinosaurs can't talk. Someone said that the Documentary in the OP proved otherwise, but the superior documentary, \"Jurassic Park\" proves otherwise.",
"If you are living in America voting Democrat is the best and easiest way to protect the environment. Individual action does not make a noticeable difference, like the raptor is saying political subsidies and policies must change. I'm so thrilled that even the trimmed down social spending package includes over 500 billion dollars in clean energy subsidies and incentives. \n\nClimate change is a political issue and saying what I just said is the only way forward right now in our current political climate.\n\nTrump and home interior secretary zinsk sold off thousands of acres of previoudly protected national forests to oil drilling as well as coastal waters, while simultaneously leading the EPA to cut major pollution regulations. These facts matter a lot.",
"We’re all part of the problem - “people.” But as individuals, we can’t do anything much. We have collectively decided that larger things should be handled by government - roads, safety regulations, etc. Corporations cannot solve this. We need top down edicts from government to enact real change. I absolutely agree with u/jason_batemans_hair - this isn’t about consumers not doing enough or corporations not doing enough - the lack of action (at least for the past 40 years) is government not resisting corruption.\n\nWe already know that (for example) oil companies knew what was happening in the 80s and they lobbied against regulations and spread anti-scientific misinformation while they also started to change how they built their infrastructure to account for the inevitable rising sea levels. Are they bad? Yes. Are we bad for driving cars? Sure. But we formed government to take larger action for the greater good and they failed to do so.\n\nThat is just one example. We are ALL culpable in this. We need to demand change.",
"Right. I know this and you know this, but the tiny dick patrol that is our world's leaders don't seem to know this.",
"Why the fuck is the UN using jack black as a cgi dinosaur and not like actually fucking doing something productive???? Taiwan? Rwanda? Nope let’s just fuck off with a cgi dinosaur I guess. Nuke it all I swear to Christ just restart humanity at this point",
"Turns out this system is old and misused :^ )",
"The most unrealistic part about this entire thing is the standing ovation at the end.",
" I'm so thrilled that even the the Democrats trimmed down social spending package includes over 500 billion in clean energy subsidies and incentives.\n\nEdit: why is this being downvoted?",
"Really well written - the whole blame game thing never got me, because isn’t it humanity as a whole to blame, not any particular subset, granted more people emit more co2 than others. But we got ourselves into this as a species, and the only way we get out of it is as a species IMO",
"Average person here. Currently have a 2003 vehicle with 200k miles.\n\n*looks at budget*\n\nNope, can't get an electric car.",
"The world is controlled by Lizard people confirmed.",
"I felt I addressed that, e.g. \"This is what we've seen over all the decades leading up to now, so continuing to promote dishonest optimism and expecting a different result would be irrational.\" and \"This won't happen until the public is told the truth, and accepts it - and gets mad enough to force governments to do their job.\"\n\nWhether you get sad or mad is up to you. I don't believe that the problem will be adequately addressed before enough people get mad.\n\nedit:\n\nPerhaps I should have said that you can get mad now or you will get mad later, but the sooner you get mad the more it might help.",
"How much did this ad cost?",
"Sure looks like a big waste of resources in one room",
"The world is led by lizard people and they aren't even hiding it anymore",
"Slow clap",
"It's honest. Pretending that we'll somehow be fine or that the actions needed are too radical only guarantees the worst case scenario.",
"This! Instead of blocking the roads while I am trying to go pick my son up from childcare",
"Yeah this is how we get doomers. There seems to be evidence that there's more going on with the climate than just what humans can influence (cosmic rays, exothermic core cycle), but it's not really my field. I just go with assuming it's an important concern—possibly the most important—but not as catastrophic as some would attempt to predict. At the very least, it doesn't help us to demoralize people in the face of it, or make it worse by desperately flailing around and making bad policy.",
"I can't imagine what a zero carbon future would look like. Everything we do emits carbon. Has anything been written about that?",
"It is far easier to pump CO2 into the atmosphere than it is to recapture it, and we've been pumping it into the atmosphere at incredible rates for 100 years. Removal has to happen, but you have to think on the scale of centuries of effort.",
"Democrats won't do it either.\n\nGiven the slow churn of political processes in most of the world I really don't believe we can be saved with anything shy of full scale global revolution",
"And so you let the political dick waving play out through the UN.",
"Well it's not just an ego contest. It's their own skin they have to save, they launch a nuke, it would also means they will face the same nukes coming their way. They can hide under bunkers but for how long will they last down there. Fear is an effective deterrent, no matter how dumb/egoistical they are.",
"which politicians should I be voting for, exactly? Here in America both parties do not give a fuck across the board, none of them will do anything to actually fix this issue. Any third party candidates literally cannot win because the system is rigged against them. Who do I vote for? I'm already voting democrat, they're the closest to \"doing something\" out of the two parties, but even with 100% democrat control this issue would not be even remotely close to being addressed. They don't care.",
"Do you think it involves plastics and fossil fuels for energy?\n\nWhat parts can you imagine *definitely* won't be in because they're already on the way out?\n\nWhat existing alternatives are on the market?\n\nWhat are the climate policies of your government reps? Which is better for sustainability of our environment?\n\nThese are questions specific to you and your region and governments and economy. I can't answer that for you, it's up to you to understand your context. If you don't understand what that is, it might be a good time to start investigating environmental issues in your area",
"Teens. Teens who can pressure their parents and, in a few years, vote themselves.",
"Actually the democrats build back better legislation has over 500 billion dollars of clean energy subsidies to pay to move to clean energy. They could do more too if we voted more progressives into congress like I'm suggesting.",
"Ok greta velociberg\n\nIt's not only about helping the impoverished, it's also about helping them skip the boom of what's perceived to be development at this time and finding a mutually sustainable way of living for all walks of life.\nSounds like socialism, because it kind of has to be.\n\nSince we aren't taxing the rich yet, we're a long way from preventing extinction. It is inevitable, and will be selective should we continue down our current path.\n\nWe need a small asteroid to shock us into a balanced way of being. Just hope it hits one of the tax havens the Pandora papers has released and not off of the coast of Mexico.",
"So long and thanks for all the fish.",
"Yes because the security council is the root cause of government inaction over climate change. Ya great thinking good criticism of the system. Learn your shit before criticizing.",
"Nothing. OP is confused and angry and doesn’t understand how UN works",
"The year is 2021, why doesn't this dinosaur have feathers?",
"\"What's our plan to get people to care about climate change?\"\n\n\"Tell 10-year-olds that they and their friends and everyone on the planet will perish like the dinosaurs if they don't do something. And get Jack Black.\"\n\n\"Yep, that'll do it.\"",
"> Feels like a waste of their efforts.\n\nSo literally, the UN.",
"People, who against the opinions of all experts, consider *human extinction* as the risk we're facing, instead of the actual, real, serious, but far-from-extinction consequences.\n\nI'm shocked to see *the UN* spread this sort of fake news.",
"What's wrong with nuclear power? I live right by one and never think about it.",
"Well more trees.",
"Not really. The entire world is literally against the US and Israel on Palestine and Cuba. In that situation, the political power is against them. The UN just formalises it as being the opposite. Let the US get out voted, and let them suffer as the international pariah that they are.",
"Yeah, what does the World Food Programme even do?\n\nMost people who criticize the UN don't know anything about the UN.",
"The straw thing was just a marketing ploy put together by the company that came up with that final straw product. They plastered that turtle video all over the internet and made a lot of money off it. \n\nThere are so many better ways to attack the plastic problem than forcing people to drink through soggy cardboard at every restaurant.",
"We can always mitigate by taking actions now. The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago but now is the second best (or something like that).",
"Perfect. Childish cartoons from our clown world administration. Its all a joke.",
"US state department found insufficient evidence for any genocide going on \nhttps://foreignpolicy.com/2021/02/19/china-uighurs-genocide-us-pompeo-blinken/\n\nMaybe start to consider that you've been hoodwinked.",
"Maybe decades instead of centuries, but definitely way too long for it to completely mitigate the amount we're currently pumping in. It does mean that if we can eliminate fossil fuel usage, we can start bringing down CO2 levels",
"lizards",
"Absolutely nothing is wrong with nuclear, it's a great source of power. The problem lies instead with people. People are irrationally scared of nuclear, to the point where they oppose it at every opportunity. It's incredibly infuriating, honestly. \n\nPeople will loudly oppose nuclear while knowing absolutely nothing about it, and it's the #1 reason new nuclear plants don't get built. Any time a site is chosen, a bunch of white ladies show up to protest it because they're uneducated on how safe modern nuclear power is.",
"They really need to turn the thermostat up in that meeting room.",
"Careful man! Don't break the programming...",
"Imagine being so unbelievably naive as to think that the policies being proposed by democrats will have even the most minute impact on long term climate change. It's actually incredible",
"This has to be a bot. Are we not living in the same reality? I feel like if it’s your job to know your coworkers like pelosi and Biden should, and you don’t know that these 2 people will do this. I think they have been forced to do this by a populus uprising and sanders and have found a convenient out. This whole situation seems a bit off to me.",
"Nail on the head. Unfortunately there are just way too many people who don't give a shit to vote with their dollars.",
"Not even close to enough not to mention we are literally watching even that modest barely anything bill crumble I'm real time",
"[Here's his photoshoot.](https://imgur.com/gallery/ywVPK4Y/comment/91537930?nc=1)",
"Which company will benefit the most from this so that I can invest accordingly? Sunrun? Enphase? Which one does Nancy own?",
"You are providing zero reasoning whatsoever. Please give us more effort.",
"Probably would just encourage those 5 to leave.",
"saying there is nothing wrong with it is not genuine. The biggest problem with nuclear is all the waste. There is no way to get rid of it and all that can be done is stored away in some deep hole in an ever bigger growing pile. Granted containing it like that may be a far better option than making the planet's surface uninhabitable but nuclear does have some major problems that you can't just pretend don't exist.",
"So the way he said \"that's the stupidest thing i've seen in 70 million years\" makes me think that not only is this dinosaur sentient and can speak and has strong views on the environment, but also that he's some sort of immortal dinosaur demigod. Because not only has he been around since the extinction of the dinosaurs, if his comments are to be believed he was alive for roughly five million years before they died out.\n\nWhich makes me think he's seen entire biological eras come and go and he'll probably be able to survive whatever humans do to crash the planet (and probably doesn't care that much about humans, to be honest). But i guess he enjoys the current status quo.",
"I don't think we can do anything but to **get informed and vote**. \n\nRead every now and then to stay informed and spend 1 day every 3-4 years to vote\n\nIf the politicians know a majority of their population care about climate change and is willing to vote, they'll have to step up, otherwise they'll be replaced with one that will. \n\nIf I pay for someone to solve a problem for me I wouldn't expect myself to do the majority of the work and still pay them. Likewise, not to sound entitiled, but I already payed for taxes, I think the government can come up with solutions without having me to also think for them.([If I was to help, I'd probably suggest a giant icecube in the sea every couple years](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SYpUSjSgFg))",
"No, that is Patrick",
"Uh, did you read that article? It immediately states the concentration camps are real, but they don't believe the death toll amounts to genocide. So, is this some sort of gotcha moment to you?",
"What needs to be done?",
"Buying is voting. If you buy from a company you support them. Its not much power but it is still a lot in masses. There is also real voting. Vote for parties that push this on their agenda. Be vocal about change in social media and affect others to be positive about change. We must change or we are doomed and every person counts.",
"Ah, so someone else, not you, has to do something.",
"Honestly at this point I’d rather have the asteroid.",
"So when are we going to start building bombs?",
"nothing will be done",
"Until I can but an EV for 15k or less they better continue subsidizing fossil fuels. I can barely afford a car payment for a 15k car, there's no way in hell I can afford a 40k one. And with gas prices well over 4 dollars things can't get more expensive.",
"500 billion dollars is extremely significant. Let's get that straight.\n\nThe 500 billion dollars I mentioned in clean energy subsidies is not one of the cut measures.\n\nThe trimmed down version is still breathtaking - including for the environment.",
"It’s accurate though, it isn’t a lack of awareness, but the greed of the few but powerful, that’s biting us in the ass.",
"lmao",
"Great. Now even the UN is feeding into the common misconceptions that *human extinction* is a realistic consequence of climate change. (For those unaware, this contradicts what most scientists say. If you don't want to look up sources yourself, [Wikipedia has a few pointers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_extinction#Ecological). And no, that doesn't mean we can just continue as is, the real consequences that scientists actually predict are also extremely bad, just nowhere near human extinction level bad.)\n\nYou would have thought that governments and international organizations have learned that burning credibility for short-term wins is a really bad deal in a long-running disaster...\n\n(Now watch as this gets downvoted to hell by doomers.)",
"International pariah?",
"rip polar bears",
"But Dinosaurs are more closely related to birds than lizards.\n\nEdit: For those not getting the joke, I’m calling our leaders lizard people.",
"Interesting. Made me want to empty a whole can of Barbasol on my face…",
"You've misunderstood. It's got nothing to do with the number of killings; they cannot find sufficient evidence of ANY ethnic targeted killing. If they could find evidence of ethnically targeted killing of even 100 people, they could class it as genocide.\n\nSee, this might be confusing, until you realise that the reason a lot of this ethnic group are being targeted in china, is not because of the ethnic group they belong to (there are famous Uighurs movie starts in China), but because they often are associated with extremist groups, that have, to no surprise, been previously listed as terrorist groups by the US, but have since been removed from that list, and funded by the US.\n\nSo, is China doing some dodgy stuff with prisoners that may constitute crimes against humanity? Almost certainly. Are they carrying out these crimes in an ethnically targeted way? There's no evidence of that.",
"> final straw product\n\nWhat final straw product?",
"a good point, but then, if we can't get people to wear a fucking face mask for covid when all the cost of it the annoyance of having it on your face, you think you gonna sway them when money and income from fuel is on the line?",
"This makes me want to choose extinction oddly enough",
"The thing about space is, it sucks as a place to live. It's only a place to travel through.\n\nBut once you get to another planet, they're still 100x worse than the worst places on Earth. Even the fairly hospitable Mars has no air, little gravity and is freezing cold. Not to mention that it's dead and barren. It makes Antarctica look like the Mediterranean.\n\nWe literally could never ruin Earth to the point where Mars looks better, or do damage that would be harder to undo than it would be to terraform Mars.\n\nElon is on his own mission to try to be the historic figure that colonized another planet. The other guys are just having a dick measuring contest, their space programs are comparatively a joke. But nobody wants to go live out there.",
"Joe Manchin.",
"Lizard People run the world . Gotcha.",
"Public opinion counts bro. At least get at the younger generations.",
"Nancy's known stock trades during 2020 were for companies like Google, Microsoft, Apple, and Amazon , some of the most popular stocks in the world.\n\nI am not the best for stock picks by any means but green energy ETFs are doing pretty decent in the lead up the legislation moving.",
"It doesn't help that we ship plastics to other countries to be recycled. And those countries mostly dump the plastics.",
"It's us. \n\nThe question that remains now is *what are we going to do about it?*\n\n## We need to listen to scientists\n\nThe consensus among [scientists](https://people.uwec.edu/jamelsem/papers/CC_Literature_Web_Share/Science/CC_Science_Perspective_Rosenberg_2010.pdf) and [economists](http://policyintegrity.org/files/publications/ExpertConsensusReport.pdf) on [carbon pricing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_price)^§ to mitigate climate change is similar to [the consensus among climatologists](http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/) that human activity is responsible for global warming. Putting the price [upstream](https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887323611604578396401965799658) where the fossil fuels enter the market makes it simple, easily enforceable, and bureaucratically lean. Returning the revenue as an equitable dividend [offsets any regressive effects of the tax](http://www.nber.org/papers/w9152.pdf) (in fact, [~60% of the public would receive more in dividend than they paid in tax](http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0081648#s7)) and allows for a higher carbon price (which [is what matters for climate mitigation](https://www.worldscientific.com/doi/pdf/10.1142/S201000781840002X)) because [the public isn't willing to pay anywhere near what's needed otherwise](http://www.apnorc.org/projects/Pages/Is-the-Public-Willing-to-Pay-to-Help-Fix-Climate-Change-.aspx). Enacting a [border tax](http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2026879) would protect domestic businesses from foreign producers not saddled with similar pollution taxes, and also [incentivize those countries](http://ageconsearch.umn.edu/handle/205761) to enact their own. A carbon tax is [widely regarded](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-019-0474-0.epdf?author_access_token=tst1A-oZnQ8zUO18wGGPQdRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0Nfy3PIgvrwnNXQzIbXH8z1Wkqhm6g5NiMnxMk__ebsKxGQNB0hMf1Vpo-ZiNplSt5LeLyks-Q3sdrpBdfxxHvAfQylqqwqHxgEml7GEGOxaQ%3D%3D) as the single most impactful climate mitigation policy.\n\n[Conservative estimates](http://rdcu.be/cLYO) are that failing to mitigate climate change will cost us 10% of GDP over 50 years, [starting about now](http://policyintegrity.org/files/publications/ExpertConsensusReport.pdf). In contrast, carbon taxes may actually *boost* GDP, if the revenue is [returned as an equitable dividend to households](http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2014/jun/13/how-revenue-neutral-carbon-tax-creates-jobs-grows-economy) (the [poor tend to spend money when they've got it](http://www.econ2.jhu.edu/people/ccarroll/papers/cstwMPC.pdf), which [boosts economic growth](https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/sdn/2015/sdn1513.pdf)) not to mention [create jobs](https://econ.ucalgary.ca/manageprofile/sites/econ.ucalgary.ca.manageprofile/files/unitis/publications/1-7729354/Yamazaki_CarbonTax_JEEM_2017.pdf) and [save lives](https://globalchange.mit.edu/news-media/jp-news-outreach/shift-renewable-electricity-win-win-statewide-level). \n\nTaxing carbon [is in each nation's own best interest](http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2015/wp15105.pdf) (it [saves lives at home](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-09499-x)) and [many nations have already started](https://carbonpricingdashboard.worldbank.org/), which [can have knock-on effects in other countries](http://policyintegrity.org/files/publications/ExpertConsensusReport.pdf). In poor countries, [taxing carbon is progressive even *before* considering smart revenue uses](https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/02/ipcc_wg3_ar5_summary-for-policymakers.pdf), because only the \"rich\" can afford fossil fuels in the first place. We [won’t wean ourselves off fossil fuels without a carbon tax](http://news.mit.edu/2016/carbon-tax-stop-using-fossil-fuels-0224); the [longer we wait to take action the more expensive it will be](http://rdcu.be/cZjG). Each year we delay costs [~$900 billion](https://cla.umn.edu/heller-hurwicz/news-events/news/policy-brief-calibrating-price-climate-risk).\n\n## Carbon pricing is increasingly popular \n\n[Just seven years ago, only 30% of the public supported a carbon tax](https://web.archive.org/web/20140723120752/http://closup.umich.edu/issues-in-energy-and-environmental-policy/13/public-views-on-a-carbon-tax-depend-on-the-proposed-use-of-revenue/). Three years ago, [it was over half (53%)](https://news.gallup.com/poll/232007/americans-want-government-more-environment.aspx). Now, [it's an overwhelming majority (73%)](https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2020/06/23/two-thirds-of-americans-think-government-should-do-more-on-climate/ps_2020-06-23_government-and-climate_00-01/) – and that [does actually matter for passing a bill](https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09644016.2016.1116651). But [we can't keep hoping others will solve this problem for us](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility). \n\n&#x200B;\n\n## [**Build the political will for a livable climate**](https://citizensclimatelobby.org/join-citizens-climate-lobby/?tfa_3590416195188=online-002&utm_source=online&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=002) \n\n[Lobbying works](https://sociology.stanford.edu/sites/default/files/publications/friends_or_foes-how_social_movement_allies_affect_the_passage_of_legislation_in_the_u._s._congress.pdf), and you [don't need a lot of money to be effective](http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.1016.1967&rep=rep1&type=pdf) (though it does help to [educate yourself on effective tactics](http://www.congressfoundation.org/storage/documents/CMF_Pubs/cmf-citizen-centric-advocacy.pdf)). If you're too busy to go through the [free training](https://citizensclimatelobby.org/new-member/#climateadvocatetraining), sign up for [text alerts](https://citizensclimatelobby.org/monthly-calling-campaign/) to join the monthly call campaign ([it works](http://www.congressfoundation.org/storage/documents/CMF_Pubs/cmf-citizen-centric-advocacy.pdf)) or set yourself a monthly reminder to [write a letter](https://www.ted.com/talks/omar_ahmad_political_change_with_pen_and_paper?language=en) to your elected officials. According to NASA climatologist and climate activist [Dr. James Hansen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hansen), becoming an [active volunteer with Citizens' Climate Lobby](https://citizensclimatelobby.org/join-citizens-climate-lobby/?tfa_3590416195188=online-002&utm_source=online&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=002) is [the most important thing you can do for climate change](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4DAW1A6Ca8). Climatologist [Dr. Michael Mann](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_E._Mann) calls its [Carbon Fee & Dividend](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_fee_and_dividend) policy [an example of the sort of visionary policy that's needed](https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/06/03/climate-change-requires-collective-action-more-than-single-acts-column/1275965001/). \n\n[It's the smart thing to do](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0095069698910580), and the IPCC report made clear [pricing carbon is *necessary* if we want to meet our 1.5 ºC target](https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/sites/2/2018/12/SR15_TS_High_Res.pdf).\n\n&#x200B;\n\n§ The IPCC (AR5, WGIII) [Summary for Policymakers](https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/02/ipcc_wg3_ar5_summary-for-policymakers.pdf) states with \"high confidence\" that tax-based policies are effective at decoupling GHG emissions from GDP (see p. 28). [Ch. 15](https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/02/ipcc_wg3_ar5_chapter15.pdf) has a more complete discussion. The U.S. [National Academy of Sciences, one of the most respected scientific bodies in the world, has also called for a carbon tax](https://www.nap.edu/download/21712). According to [IMF research](https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/05/how-much-does-world-subsidize-oil-coal-and-gas/589000/), most of the $5.2 trillion in subsidies for fossil fuels come from not taxing carbon as we should. There is general agreement among economists on carbon taxes whether you consider [economists with expertise in climate economics](http://policyintegrity.org/files/publications/ExpertConsensusReport.pdf), [economists with expertise in resource economics](http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.381.484&rep=rep1&type=pdf), or [economists from all sectors](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Doris_Geide-Stevenson/publication/261884738_Consensus_Among_Economists-An_Update/links/56a7f3fa08ae860e0255a8e3.pdf). It is literally [Econ 101](http://sites.bu.edu/manove-ec101/files/2014/10/EC101Outlines14-Externalities.pdf). The idea [won a Nobel Prize](http://environment.yale.edu/news/article/william-nordhaus-wins-nobel-prize-for-economics-of-climate-change/). Thanks to researchers at MIT, you can see for yourself how it compares with other mitigation policies [here](https://en-roads.climateinteractive.org/scenario.html?v=2.7.11).\n\n&#x200B;\n\n/r/CitizensClimateLobby\n\n/r/CarbonTax",
"More than any other country, the US has signed and ratified the least amount of international law, continually breaks international law more than any other country, partly because they haven't signed and ratified most international law, and continually votes against the rest of the world at the UN. That's what I mean by international pariah.",
"^It… ^feels ^kinda ^racist ^how ^they ^just ^kinda… ^plug ^in ^Africans ^to… ^”pull ^at ^the ^heart ^strings”",
"^Nice",
"Why do we even need straws?",
"How can you think this is not targeting elites when it’s about hundreds of billions of dollars in subsidies?",
"We truly are at the final stage.. the committee tasked with making the real difference in the world is pandering to youtubers as if they themselves aren't holding the keys to this out of control vehicle.",
"This is about climate, not environment. They're two different issues. One drives huge continent-altering effects like heat waves, harder winters, submerging coasts, while the other litters and affects your health and produces eye-sores in your environment.",
"Apparently Putin is obsessed with how Gaddafi was murdered, but not to the point where he'd stop stealing from his people and assassinating dissidents the world over.",
"Just more fear peddling from the elitist class.",
"> there was two little reds with the U.S. and bitch boy Israel doing whatever Daddy says\n\nWrong way around mate.",
"You don’t think China and Russia are just as bad? And more of a “pariah”?",
"Am I the only idiot who was too busy being distracted by how ridiculously huge they made the velociraptor? \n \nThey weren’t anywhere near that large…",
"^You ^mean ^creating ^solutions ^to ^artificial ^problems ^is ^profitable?",
"People love justifying their apathy.\n\nLike I'm well aware of the corruption within a lot of government, but I don't understand how people think that means we do nothing in response to it.",
"So yeah! I'd 100% be on board with teaching young people about global warming so they have a greater grasp of the problem but that's not what this video is! It's a CG dinosaur saying \"you need to change your ways\" that ends with the group of UN delegates clapping, agreeing, and then presumably doing that. If anything it's convincing younger generations that we solved the issue?\n\nMaybe I'm too cynical IDK.",
"People where I live will lose their minds if there are any issues getting cheap fuel, it results in lots of media attention and a lot of unhappy voters very quickly. Getting people to not do that, and maybe to push back a bit against that, is useful.",
"^No ^one ^my ^age ^will ^ever ^buy ^an ^affordable ^house",
"Yeah, I'm gonna keep it real with you. I'm not buying what you are selling and there are countless articles on exactly what is going on and you either don't have access to those articles for \"reasons\", or you are brainwashed, or a shill. You can Google this topic and find tons of evidence for what is going on.",
"Not even 4k, the UN doesn't care.",
"Did you not read the title of the video?",
"Mankind elected to ignore the dinosaur for he was to eloquent, his talking points to sane... Besides, he couldn't grab the headlines like a Trump or a Boris Johnson.",
"I don't know who the target demographic is here. The common person? But this is great. It shows you how truly out of touch these people are. We have to use a bad CGI dinosaur who sounds like he's talking to children. That is how *they* see people like *you* and *me.* \n \nIf they didn't have friends in media and others to blow smoke up their ass I think people would find the majority of those that \"represent\" us to be entirely out of touch and driven only by their own egos and interests. I can totally see when put into context these scumbags would pretend to know what's best. This is how they see you. \n\nedit: love the caption for \"context\" underneath lmao",
"LOL. Most people who are anti-vax don't believe in dinosaurs either xD\n\nAt least thats the case where I live!",
"Straw thing is less about destroying planet and more about less waste in the ocean and hurting animals\n\nWhy the downvotes? I'm right, every bit helps and plastic straws are just an easy way to get started and go without. Also kinda like a gateway into starting to reduce single use plastic waste.",
"As far as I am aware, they have signed and ratified more international law than the US has, and when they break it, it makes huge headlines. The US breaks international law in almost every action they take outside the US; it is their normal mode of operation, because they are above international law. For example, when the US does a show of force in the south China sea, they are very clearly breaking the UN 1982 sea treaty. The US is not signed to the 1982 UN sea treaty, China is. When the US bombed Syria because of attacks on a US base in Iraq, they were breaking international law.",
"This is just your big brain Reddit man showing us how edgy he be. Just disregard and move on, not worth the hassle.",
"Sorry in advance for the wall of text.\n\nI get where you're coming from, but I'd like to make it clear that I'm not absolving the average person of *all* responsibility. I'm just saying that if you're in a position to make decisions that affect others, you carry more of the responsibility. The more impactful, numerous, and informed those decisions are, the more responsibility the individual holds.\n\nFor example, the average person has a baseline of opportunities to make decisions: voting, buying, and other lifestyle choices. Someone in a position of power has more opportunities for decisions. How much more? It's hard to quantify. A toddler, on the other hand, is extremely limited in their decisions/information and therefore not accountable. I think this is something we can both agree on.\n\nAnd now if you'll allow me to rant a little bit, is it realistic to expect consumers to be informed on every micro-decision they make? Even if a consumer wants to stop climate change, think of all the research they need to do beforehand: is this egg brand *really* from a sustainable farm? Does this product use palm oil? How much extra packaging is in this product? Does this politician have any plans for enforcement of littering? Was this carrot grown with pesticides? Does the recycling facility *really* do recycling or do they ship it out? Will these clothes last for more than a few years? Can I get a job within biking distance? Does the parent corporation for this product align with my interests? And that's *just* on the climate issue, not accounting for the myriad of other topics, controversies, and movements we should be informed on. If every consumer devotes their whole lives to an entire 6% of the total number of these particular issues, is that enough? It may very well be, but it's not something could say with a smidgen of confidence.",
"Is this a reference to something?",
"AAAaaaaaaaaaaaaand tomorrow will be no different.",
"According to my napkin calculation, people have emitted ~2.4 trillion tons of atmospheric CO2 since 1950, from the burning of fossil fuels for energy and cement production alone. You seem to say this can be removed in decades.\n\nHow? Please be specific.\n\nedit:\n\nFor context, the recent CO2 capture plant in Iceland, the world's largest, is supposed to capture 4400 tons per year. It would take that plant over 545 MILLION years to remove 2.4 trillion tons. Even with 100 CO2 capture plants operating at 100x that capacity each, it would take them over 54,500 years to do it.\n\nIt's not a decades long process by any technology with which I'm familiar.",
"Sometime it's about *reinforcing* an idea. \n\nYou know something, you go \"well, yeah...\"\n\nYou hear it repeated and you go \"hell, yeah!\"\n\nYou hear it again, by more people around you and you go: \"You know what? I've said 'yeah' too many times, what can I actually do this time?\" \n\nHow many of us are emailing or calling our representatives or getting involved in local politics? \"We're well aware of climate change\" yeah we are, and we keep saying \"it's the politicians fault\" but it's the politician's fault exactly because we aren't screaming in their face that we *want them* to do something. \"That's bullshit,\" you might be thinking, \"we keep screaming and screaming and they still keep doing nothing\" - no, *you* keep *writing* and *writing* on Reddit or Facebook, sure it's better than nothing and it does express what the population wants to some extent and helps spread the word and influence others, but of course *it's not enough* because for the politicians it's easy to ignore until it translates in actual *consequences* for them. \n\nWhat are we gonna do, say \"it's the politician and corporation's fault\" until they actually succeed at killing us all, and then we'll get to act smug beyond our deathbed?\n\nHow about we step a little bit on our apathy and cynicism, take a breath, and think about our actual possibilities here outside of just pointing fingers? \n\nReading the comments in this thread, we're already dead. There's nothing to be done, it's not our fault, anybody saying we might be able to do something is a shill trying to shift the blame from the elites onto the poor innocent citizens, all's left to do is lay down and die. Fuck this bullshit. \n\nGet involved in your local politics, contact your representatives directly, take part in marches, keep spreading the word that it's not all doom and that there are solutions, vote, *get angry*, real angry, never loses the focus that yes: it is the fucking corporations and politicians' fault, but *act* on that.",
"Could try voting for people who actually care?",
"Casting the widest net to the lowest common denominator who will recognize the raptor from the tv because that's the hook of the PSA.",
"Manchin has entered the room: “Nope, is not happening, extinctions are good”",
"I dunno what they're teaching young people these days, but it should be pretty common knowledge dinosaurs aren't around anymore to convince kids we solved climate change.\n\nThey don't make commercials targeted at UN delegates. That's an audience of what, ~200 people? This is a public campaign even if it is a bit obtuse.",
"Yes, yes, yes. The answer's yes.\n\nBecause individual efforts are fucking meaningless. We need large scale societal change. I can't choose what kind of power plant gets built. I can't even boycott the ones I don't like. All I can do is vote and I'm doing that anyways.\n\nThere are miniscule efforts I can take like reducing electrical usage and buying a car that gets better mileage, BUT IT'S NOTHING. It's a statistical irrelevancy.",
"Lol that is metric ton of bullshit you shill",
"I got a great idea. let's let a few guys at the top make all the decisions for us and run the entire planet the way they want and make us all live the way they want us to live.",
"I think he's doing a terrible job trying to be sarcastic. I don't know what's with him calling renewables \"so-called,\" but he might just be too edgy for us.\n\nTo be serious, nuclear is great, and probably the most-green way to handle base load for the foreseeable future. The risk of meltdown in a modern plant with modern safety tech and procedures is basically 0%. There is some waste, which is bad, but less of it in modern plants, and in the grand scheme of things it's very little for how much energy you get.\n\nThe biggest downside is it's very expensive upfront and not all that cheap per lifetime kWh. Solar is approaching $.03/kWh and nuclear at best is around $.09/kWh. The problem with solar, of course, is that storing the energy in a Li+ battery quickly makes it a terrible option, as the batteries themselves are far from green, and the price explodes past nuclear or coal even if you build enough storage for a single day. And typically people still want electricity even when the sun isn't shining and the wind isn't blowing. So far we blindly continue to use coal, oil, and gas, because no one is willing to confront the issue of base load honestly and people are afraid of nuclear.\n\nUntil we figure out cheaper storage and expand the infrastructure to include alternative energy storage (e.g. water pumps and weights with flywheels) on a grand scale, nuclear is basically the only way we're getting off fossil fuels. Eventually we can transition to 100% renewable, but that'll take massive investment in a country the size of the US. And hopefully we figure out some cleaner/cheaper battery tech in the meantime.",
"Okay, so like- what dinosaur is that? It’s using Jurassic Park style cloned dinosaurs but it is way too big to be a JP velociraptor, is it a utahraptor?",
"Pay more taxes. The experts all agree that the money won't be squandered.",
"Climate change is natural. Like meteors. I hope this is satire.",
"This comment has more blue lines then a fuckin Republican rally.",
"Hence the inclusion of my quotation marks.\n\n I'm just as frustrated as you are. Most people in power only care about themselves. That's why most of them get into positions of power. I think if you picked out the average person and made them congressman or world leaders they would make better choices regarding climate change.",
"Propaganda has rarely been overly concerned with scientific accuracy.",
"Jackasaurus",
"maybe they should put foward actual actions instead of videos and warnings",
"If a strong majority of normal citizens pushed for a carbon tax, we'd have it. The only reason we don't have one is because most people refuse to consider paying more than a pittance for it. It's not a conspiracy, the vast majority are just selfish and short sighted.",
"Jesus christ you need to take a political science course. You do NOT want this.",
"The African Group is the largest regional group in the United Nations, with the 54 countries represented making up nearly 30% of the UN's membership.",
"Lol noice",
"Cool.",
"It's not just knowledge they're trying to spread, it's also excitement / engagement (assuming this psa is in good faith). A lot of people are feeling hopeless right now, which leads to inaction, which just makes things worse. Propaganda like this can help morale.",
"Needed T-rex to break in at the end and scream \"HOW DARE YOU!\"",
"If the woman writing the headline is to be believed, he's a Utahraptor.",
"> this is like if a mime tried to warn you about a fire.\n\nThis is a great analogy.",
"Reminding normal citizens of the stupid shit their government does is exactly how you get the change we need.",
"They only way I see us getting through climate change is through massive engineering measures. Most people will die.",
"The name literally translates into big lizard.",
"If we are waiting on corporations/lobbyists to change their minds.. we're truly fucked.\n\nThey will never change, they need to be persuaded, coerced, forced. If left to them they will keep following the money and lead us all deeper into that hole.",
"If you're an average person please disregard this. You cannot change a thing.\n\nYOU CAN VOTE THOUGH, and hold those you elect accountable for sticking to their platform/promises and helping heal the world.",
"Ah yes, the \"the other guys aren't perfect, so let's just ignore it, sit back, and enjoy our ocean front property in Denver\" approach.",
"Lost all credibility when it didn't have feathers.",
"All single use plastics are a bad idea and should be banned. This includes straws.",
">human extinction is a realistic consequence of climate change.\n\nYou mean we're not all going to drown in ~~ten~~ nine years?",
"I think they have little thingy's in their ears.\n\nBut either way, if I had just seen a dinosaur make a speech in any obscure language at all you better believe i'm applauding that.",
"As a capitalist, I couldn't agree more. Crony capitalism is worse than socialism, communism, or even feudalism. At lease those methods are honest.",
"Pay very close attention to these \"changes\" that will \"save the species\". Don't let this become an \"own nothing and be happy\" campaign. \n \nDon't let this become a \"*we* own *nothing* and *they* own *literally everything*\" event.",
"Did you watch it?",
"paper straws are PURE SHIT.",
"You are missing the biggest thing you can do: Activism. Organize ith your close ones. Join an environmental organization. Coordinate with other organizations. Establish communication channels, a social media presence, support networks. That takes years, but you won't be alone. Once the groundwork is done, you protest. Mass, sustained protest. You hold the economy hostage. Sooner rather than later, they will yield. It becomes costlier to stay the course than to change, and they follow the money. I've seen it happen. I've been part of it. It doesn't happen on it's own.",
"Reptilian",
"I would be surprised if there weren't *multiple* doomers on reddit actually believing we will...",
"If only we were able to choose our politicians.",
">The average world leader who gets their news from CGI internet publicity stunt videos?\n\nMaybe they're preparing for donny twoscoops getting reelected in 2024. If they do another ad featuring a map and a sharpie, you can be absolutely certain.",
"In which case its reasonable to get best guess, so chill.",
"Issa joke",
"I have a strange feeling this thread is being astroturfed",
"When your the most powerful country in the world you don’t give a rats ass about what anyone else thinks. Why Tf would you blow away your own interests based on the votes of people who aren’t even citizens of your country? I’m not even a American but it’s just common sense. Who gives a fuck about the “global community” if covid taught me (a Canadian) one thing it’s when shit hits the fan everyone’s on their own.",
"**We** have all the power. You are missing the biggest thing you can do: Activism. Organize with your close ones. Join an environmental organization. Coordinate with other organizations. Establish communication channels, a social media presence, support networks. That takes years, but you won't be alone. Once the groundwork is done, you protest. Mass, sustained protest. You hold the economy hostage. Sooner rather than later, they will yield. It becomes costlier to stay the course than to change, and they follow the money. I've seen it happen. I've been part of it. It doesn't happen on it's own.",
"/r/cringe /r/iam14andthisisdeep /r/hellofellowkids",
"Because the people who named them at the time had no idea they had any connection to birds.",
"nuclear is promoted worse than crypto shit coins and it freaks me the fuck out",
"You savage.",
"This was put out by the UN... this is a propaganda video to get the people on board with coming \"changes\" to \"save the species\".\n \nRight after they've bent us all over the barrel to \"stop\" covid for two years. \n \nYou think the UN hasn't known about climate change until this particular moment (read: opportunity)?\n \nPay attention.",
"See, it perfectly illustrates how much UN care about accuracy and science.",
"Jokes on them we'll be dead when the meteor hits! \n\nGood luck collecting from our ashes \n(•_•)\n( •_•)>⌐■-■\n(⌐■_■)",
"I mean you can get pretty dishonest in communist systems (Stalism). You can get cronyism easily in socialist states.",
"China and Russia breaking international law is the exception; America doing it is the norm.",
"Seemed so self-congratulatory lol",
"\"It's just one vote, out of tens of millions. It's a statistical irrelevancy.\"",
"Stop trying to make me recycle!",
"Well that was dumb.",
"What if an unvaxxed terrorist organization slips into the USA via Mexico's border and hijacks / causes meltdowns at all of nuclear power plants?",
"This is cringey",
"Nobody. They basically have too much money and no idea how to use it.",
"Not really true. Not in all countries. Politicians listen to whatever gets them reelected. A lot of times that is the lobbyist who is sitting with the politician because billionaires hire them to keep their issue constantly in the politicians vision. Anybody could really do that. If you had like 100 thousandair's you could also do it too. Lobbyist aren't crazy expensive. But I mean its much easier to go stand in traffic and yell at people having lunch than use a process that works for every other industry. But yea if you have a lobbyist in the right place at the right time, then they can really convince a politician that voting certain ways are a great idea. You just need to put up the capital. I know individual families that do it for issues specific to them.",
"For sure, they're all corruptible, but I like to believe that the government should be out of all of it, and therefore less centralized corruption.",
"Humans are going to be in the 5% that won't.",
"Fucking cringe fest",
"Do you think we...aren't? This country has been destabilizing economies, invading countries, killing civilians, exploiting foreign labor, oppressing entire populations for resource control, etc. since before I was even born.\n\nWe've been the bad guys for long fucking time.",
"Judging by the CG, about $4.",
"Well, the younger generation will fill those seats in the decades to come. So at least we have a hope a tackling climate change after its too late.\n\nThe kid is supposed to grow up to be the t-rex!",
"Climate Change would suck, but we wouldn't all die.",
"Fuck Reddit’s you tube links that freeze every 3 seconds.",
"Jack \"Dino\" Black",
"That’s way too big and not even considering that it has no feathers",
"I just happen to know ever so slightly more about international law than the average person, and know of instances where the US is not a signatory, but China, for example, is, [like the Un 1982 sea treaty](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_on_the_Law_of_the_Sea). Furthermore, the US is the primary reason why the biological weapons convention does not have any proper onsite inspection criteria, they refused to support any such process. In knowing ever so slightly more, my position comes off as detached and absurdist to people who do not know the same things I do.\n\nsome further perusing for you.\n\nhttps://www.jstor.org/stable/29766228\n\nhttps://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2016/10/12/how-us-violates-international-law-plain-sight\n\nI think you'll find that my position is quite consistent with the facts. If that makes me \"edgy\", then so be it.",
"Dude your Greta hate comes from being manipulated by groups like the koch bros. Relax.",
"Jack Blacks mother was a rocket scientist and helped create the Abort-Guidance System which rescued the Apollo 13 astronauts",
"Whats the alternative. Make corporations gind a better alternative. They dont because they have no incentive/or punishment to polluting. Straws are good ways to protect your teeth.",
"Don't choose extinction.",
"The ones watching the video have no control on what happens.",
"I mean, that's how Julius Caesar fixed an issue with the poor people of Rome not getting enough food",
"Yea were was Saudi's in that meeting? Probably issuing a kill team to meet the dinosaur in the auditorium.",
"Meanwhile Putin is ordering the chemical poisonings of political rivals.",
"That eould rewuire real sokutions and people dont want that they want to fp nothing and look good tonthier friends. \"See im saving the environment\" while buying a new iPhone every year.",
"The target audience is the next generation of leaders because there is literally no way to stop the current generation of leaders destroying the world",
"Sorry. even a really clever animation wont stop humans being fucking retards.",
"Fwiw every ounce of science backs it up. It's just flat better and available now.",
"Except the electricity that powers that car is most likely still being generated by fossil fuels",
"Was that Jack black",
"Doesn’t this type of statement embarrass you?",
"Here's an article about a CO2 capture plant built in Iceland recently.\n\nhttps://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/sep/09/worlds-biggest-plant-to-turn-carbon-dioxide-into-rock-opens-in-iceland-orca\n\n> when operating at capacity the plant will draw 4,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide out of the air every year.\n\n> that equates to the emissions from about 870 cars. The plant cost between US$10 and 15m to build\n\n> Proponents of so-called carbon capture and storage believe these technologies can become a major tool in the fight against climate change.\n\n> Critics however argue that the technology is still prohibitively expensive and might take decades to operate at scale.\n\n10 million USD to offset 870 cars yearly. Plus maintenance and whatever powers it. Yikes. Gotta start somewhere, though.\n\n(it doesn't say how it's powered.. being Iceland, my guess is geothermal energy)",
"its an example of the UN's impotence to American footdragging.",
"The honest answer is that \n\n1. Most people would be like “oh that dinosaur has feathers” \n\nAnd\n\n2. It’s way easer to make a cgi monster out of smooth ish skin. Especially when it has to be in broad daylight. That’s why Toy Story was about smooth plastic creatures and why all the humans look like nightmare fuel.",
"I’m not quite sure what you’re trying to get at with regards to the first bit.\n\nBut instead of using a straw to try and protect your teeth, just stop drinking the stuff thats bad for your teeth.",
"Sure, while UN itself is becoming a joke. United for nothing.",
"So we can drink our sugary sodas without putting our two-handed hamburgers down, duh.",
"Because if it was targeting elite it would be a bad argument. The people subsidizing fossil fuels don't do so believing it is leading to our extinction. They argue (either willfully ignorant or maliciously lying) that climate change doesn't exist or is manageable or not anthropogenic or any other such excuse.\n\nThis is like telling a bunch of people to stop dragon summoning rituals because dragons will kill us all. Great argument, except that it doesn't work against people who don't believe in dragons.",
"American college kids who are feeling rebellious about politics are massively overrepresented here.",
"Because we can make our lives a lot worse on an individual level and it have little impact. \n\nI'm going on a cruise in 2 months. I love them. Big boat, mini golf, tropical sun, rock wall, shows, and a cabin I can stumble back to after being out all night. All for around $1000. \n\nBut apparently they are terrible. Well....shit but I only live once. I guess I could not go on a cruise and...what? The earth doesn't get hotter by .00000000001 degree?",
"> Maybe I'm too cynical IDK.\n\nYes. Kid me would've been pumped to see this. Optimism and dinosaurs man!",
"> because Israel\n\nI genuinely have no idea what Israel has to do with this. They are not on the security council",
"Who’s the good guys?",
"I noticed that instead of the name of the countries on the signs on each of the desks, they all said United Nations (other than a couple of LITHUANIA and others in the far back). Would they have shown China or Russia joining in the standing ovation at the end of the speech?",
"Thank you! i was like i know that voice but i can't place it!",
"[But... World Leaders...](https://youtu.be/I8gY0IT0CuA?t=41)",
"Everything has a minute impact on the climate, trivially true",
"Propaganda does not have to be false and it does not have to be wrong. 'keep calm and carry on' was probably one of the most effective propaganda campaigns in history and it had neither. Propaganda has a derogatory connotation but it literally means 'advertisement'\n\nAll state media is propaganda. Whether you agree with the message or sentiment is irrelevant.",
"What would the World do without Jack Black? I mean, we'd have to rely on Gilbert Godfrey to voice everything again...",
"You will not be penalized for paying too much tax. You can pay more. #writethecheck.",
"This isn't even the most outlandish possibility.",
"Ads change minds.\n\nThis one would have been through extensive focus testing. It changes the conversation from personal responsibility (an argument constructed by fossil fuel syndicates) to expectations of leadership.\n\nTo answer your question, it could probably have fed about 3,000 kids. Climate change will kill 10s of millions of kids.",
"Yeah, I mean can you please stop taking millions of dollars from lobbyists that support the fossil fuel industry and support laws that subsidize said industry as consumers/voters decide to opt out? You're such an asshole man.",
"Because not all dinosaurs are believed to have had feathers.\n\nOne theory has to do with some dinosaurs being warm blooded, prevalent by their metabolic rate. Snakes, and other reptiles, don’t have much energy and only ‘hunt’ in short bursts before they run out of gas. Certain paleontologists believe this lends to the theories of what dinosaurs had feathers and which ones had scales, using clues from their hunting patterns. \n\nSo the ones who would be more active, closer to mammals and chase prey = possibly feathers\n\nThe ones that hunted more locally and in short bursts = scales, like the reptiles. \n\nI’m sure there’s more info on this. Been a while since I dived into it.",
"And like I said, it made huge headlines; meanwhile, you hear virtually nothing of the extraordinary rendition program of the US, which has done similar things at much greater volume. \n\nBut it's interesting that you bring that up; did you know that the person in question was in Russian custody just weeks before he was poisoned in the UK? Surely if Putin wanted him dead, he could have killed him then. Furthermore, why would Putin use a poison that could be easily traced back to Russia? Russia being the only country known to have produced it, but having lost track of a lot of it with the collapse of the USSR. That would risk too much in the way of additional sanctions on Russia, when Putin is far more interested in economic growth. Why not just shoot the man with an untraceable weapon: more likely to have killed him (he survived the poison), and wouldn't have been an obvious \"hey, Russia tried to kill this guy, please sanction us more\".\n\nWe don't know for sure what happened, but there are lots of questionable parts of what we do know happened, that make it entirely plausible that it was, in fact, not Russia that tried to poison him.\n\nMost of this information comes from \"Secret: The makings of Australia's Security state\" by Brian Toohey",
"If everyone who agrees with you does something, isn't that large scale? Or do you still mean someone else?",
"Uh....I have a job, I have to sleep, and sometimes I want to play video games. Many people have kids. When is all this activism supposed to happen?",
"Sadly I don't think the world's climate problems can be solved with optimism and dinosaurs alone but hey, what do I know :P",
"Straws are quite beneficial for teeth health if your a soda drinker according to my dentist. The idea being much less of your drink is sloshed around your teeth and instead hits your taste buds then goes down the throat and leaves much less acidic left overs to decay your teeth.",
"Yep... now try telling that to the doomers.",
"Undecided voters. Parents, mid-20s - mid-40s. Also, young people, sub-18.\n\nTimed to coincide with Cop26 to raise expectations for meaningful announcements from leaders.",
"Heaven forbid all the necessary resources for action and information about implementation was easy to access",
"Normies. Sharing this all over the place now, so we all \"create consciousness\"\n\nTypical feel-good bullshit people eat up",
"The new Jurrassic Park Dominion looks like it's going to be... interesting to say the least.",
"That isn't true. At all. Nuclear is good. But it still has major issues and the question is would investment be better off in other areas which there is good reason to think it would. Storage is the hurdle. Maybe I'm wrong but I've talked with geologist who flat out say there's not system that is earth proof. Every single thing we have will leak over time and you'd have to trust that a company would be doing routine inspections and maintenance for the lifetime of the waste without cutting corners or you will risk contaminating our an aquifer and potentially our fresh water supply. As more plants are built, more storage will be needed. More storage means more inspections, more maintenance. basically more cost to a business interested in profits where those costs bring in zero profits. So you solve the problem of energy generation but you now are on the hook for a whole new environmental problem.\n\nNow here is my counter argument to all of this. Its batteries. If we could perfect energy storage then it would beat any thing we could create today. Because if energy could be stored long term without loss then you could generate power, store it and release it when needed",
"Joke's on the dinosaur. Humans are stupid, petty, and doomed to extinction because money.",
"> Chester: “It [COVID] will taper off to a point that it's not a problem anymore. Climate change can take years, so they'll [CNN will] probably be able to milk that quite a bit…Climate change is going to be the next COVID thing for CNN…Fear sells.” \n\nhttps://www.projectveritas.com/news/part-1-cnn-director-admits-network-engaged-in-propaganda-to-remove-trump/",
"I said nothing about his mother. Just Jack Black.",
"Average Human: What's a subsitties?",
"Damn by like twice of what the US is. That's fucking bad\n\nFuck off China and be better at changing faster",
"Really wanted to give this an up vote, but didn't want to be the one to tip it to 667.",
"Everything is bad for your teeth and stains it. Why not produce a better straw. Better yet why noy punish companies for not recycling, who dont pay taxes, abuse workers and society instead of going after the guy who wants to use a straw and works for slave wages. Do you understand the misdirected blame?",
"Stern but fair",
"Ah yes, tik tok kids love the UN",
"There's a short shot in the video of a reporter writing an article headline calling it a Utahraptor.\n\nShould have feathers, but that would just confuse most people over 30, I guess.",
"Because they never had feathers you disgusting furry",
"Lemme guess it's about global warming right?",
"It did help. Shits funny. Got you watching it.",
"Well if we can get rid of greed, envy, pride and stupid we would have a chance.",
"The whole point of the UN is to get people talking to each other. It's not an enforcer. They put forward a suggestion: stop subsidizing fossil fuels. It's up to the governments (and voters) to do it.",
"The UN prevents nuclear war. It does some other stuff as hobbies that mostly indirectly work towards that goal too, but that's it's job, that's why it was created, and it does it pretty damn well.",
"> 'But the people elect their government so it's the people's fault, not the governments'\n\nIt's also irrelevant at this point. Whose fault it was does not matter. Whose fault it is now and in the future does.\n\nArguing over that shit is the kind of thing fossil fuel companies love because it diverts our energy away from what needs to happen. \n\nUnfortunately, because I don't want to get banned, I cannot say what needs to happen.",
"yea, super good point. Logical. Concise. I'm glad you clarified it because its important and not at all a joke. \n\nJack Black is not a scientist.",
"Why do there have to be \"good guys\"? Everything I said is true without any need for comparison.\n\nThis reminds me of the ridiculous conservative argument against Socialism. \"WHERE ARE ALL THE THRIVING SOCIALIST COUNTRIES?\"\n\nAh, right. I forgot the world hasn't changed in the last 50 years so any and all Socialism must be exactly like the USSR. 🙄",
"> I personally think everyone should just imagine what a zero carbon future looks like\n\nIt looks like technology that doesn't exist yet. Just FYI.",
"This is all wrong\n\nThe Velociraptor would be busy *eating* the people causing the climate catastrophe",
"Do you think they go good with Sweet Baby Rays?",
"The common thread? They both kill marine life.",
"All of the people deeply offended by this commercial.",
"Pretty sure a big chunk of meme culture are right wingers who stupidly don't agree.",
"Did you even watch?",
"To me it looks like consuming less non-renewable stuff.\n\n(shrug) just FYI.",
"The only way you could go is to now deny climate change. This commercial was deeply offensive and it didn't resonate with you and your sensibilities. Bad taste. How dare they. I'm burning coal as we speak.",
"Maybe death isn’t so bad…",
"I do all that stuff too. That's a prime consideration for organizations too. One afternoon a week, or saturdays, etc. Mass protests were usually called around 18:00-19:00 so that people could get there from their jobs. Don't let our epitaph be \"We were so busy that we didn't do what was needed.\" It is work, yes. But, again, change doesn't happen on it's own. And you need not do it alone, nor constantly. This needs to be sustainable, no point in burning out, we need a fire, not sparks. Offer your expertise in some relevant area if you have it. Attend demonstrations with family and friends.",
"Water isn’t bad for your teeth.\n\nI agree with punishing companies who pollute the environment. But in the case of consumer single use plastics, the onerous falls on individuals to recycle those plastics. And no one is going after wage slaves, as there is no punishment for individuals.\n\nAnd better, reusable, washable straws already exist.",
"It's a translation - I don't remember which language, but it translates to 'advertisement'",
"its easier on paper than actually doing it, but its not impossible",
"Good message but kinda cheesy if you ask me.",
"Well then I suppose we can all die instead and give up on trying to get people involved in activism.",
"Lol nobody is living in space. Your body literally deteriorates in space and there is nothing to do.",
"This is where I'm at. Plastic straws are bad, fine, but cardboard straws are worse, as a customer experience, so I'd rather just drink directly from the cup. I don't really have a problem with doing that.",
"This is really weird. I don’t think people need convincing that bad things are bad. I still like to hear Jack Black though",
"Not straws per se,but please go watch some Ocean Conservation Namibia videos on YouTube to see just how easy small plastics can be absolutely devastating\n\nhttps://youtube.com/c/OceanConservationNamibia",
"Don't forget foreign actors that are paid to undermine American sentiment.",
"I'll give a shit what the UN has to say when they stop being blatantly evil and stop putting some of the worst aggressors on human rights on their council of human rights.",
"One of the issues is that they are running their own misinformation and propaganda campaigns. So even though many people are becoming informed we are seeing a crazy push back of anti-science rhetoric, and literal lies at every turn.",
"If the US had China's per-capita emissions, global CO2 emissions would drop 7.5%. Everyone's gotta get better. But you'd expect the US to be a leader not undermining everything for the past 20 years.",
"Unless you're a veteran climatologist, oceanographer or related sciences, you may not know just how bad it is. The dinosaur metaphor is NOT hyperbole.",
"Why can’t a Republican or third party also think climate change is real?",
"Where do you think the power fueling your electric car comes from? Serious question, very few places on earth run 0 fossil fuel power grids if your buying an electric car your simply kicking the proverbial can down the road so you can feel good.",
"Massively brave",
"When I was a kid, I accidentally sank a straw an inch deep into my right eye. I was jumping out of a truck while holding a soda from Sonic. So I mostly avoid them now. They might be dangerous for the environment, but they’re definitely dangerous for this clumsy idiot.",
"I thought we were over the featherless raptors...\n\nEdit: spelling",
"no, it doesn’t. If you take any global politics course worth their salt you will know that.\n\nBesides, the UN doesn’t prevent nuclear war. Ironically enough, nukes do that. Two countries with nuclear weapons will never fight each other. The UN isn’t there for that…",
"........",
"Or from listening to her speak.",
"Yeah, it’s way too big. The thing in the video is like almost the same size as an Allosaurus. No raptor I know of were that big.",
"UN WHO are evil agencies.\n\nThe US is a sovereign nation and not subject to their nonsense.\n\nC02 is not pollution. Carbon taxes are evil an Trump was right.",
"The title cuts off before Jack Black on mobile\n\nEdit: with RIF app",
"I mean, doesn't Sweet Baby Ray's go with pretty much everything? High lizard Zuckerburg even uses it to prop his books up.",
"Dumbest shit ever.",
"Being talked down-to by a precocious rich child is not something people need to be manipulated into resenting.",
"The vampires that are responsible for climate catastrophe won't be moved by a cartoon dinosaur that talks like it's from a children's show",
"and people still can't belive that reptilians are governing the world.",
"Talk to those people you know and educate them to be better.",
"What's embarrassing is that my tax dollars partially funded this.",
"Lol like it's us that are a form that brings together and mediates interactions between Sovereign Nations.",
"Yeah, OP. You ruined everything!",
"It doesn’t literally mean “advertisement” but it does literally refer to “propagating” ideas. Propaganda is simply spreading ideas and information to influence the public in some way. Most things colloquially described as “propaganda” are harmful or misleading, but that’s not how it’s defined. \n\nA government could put out advertisements comprised solely of verifiable facts, and it would still be propaganda.",
"Is that statement incompatible with improvements in technology to provide improvements in renewables? Or new materials?\n\nI believe that we can also make up ground in the mean time by cutting our use of plastics.\n\nIt can be many things. Not just some weird ascetic hippie shit, yeesh.",
"Nope. Absolutely not. There's not only two teams you know. I'm just saying I don't believe for a second either of the major US parties are actually gunning to avoid extinction",
"God, I haven't thought about young earth creationists in such a long time, I genuinely forgot they existed.",
"I mean. It's not. But that's fine.",
"Going extinct is bad? Well, it worked for us (by the Dinosaurs and many other species before us going extinct).\n\nWho's to say what would come after us wouldn't be better?\n\nAlso... It's time for \"you humans\" is this more of the \"we personally all have to do more\"-garbage? They already did thee math on that, useless. What we need is **CORPORATIONS** to stop polluting and ruining the planet. Thanks.\n\nPerhaps the UN can write a stern letter, or make another animated video to show the Koch Brothers!",
"Nah I don’t believe that they actually believe climate change doesn’t exist. Regular people who have been tricked by them do but not the people at the top. They feign ignorance. \n\nThey know climate change is real but they stand to make money personally, or secure their own power with political donations, if they continue doing what they are doing, and risk their own interests if they take responsible actions. They know they won’t be around for the worst of the consequences. It’s all greed. \n\nAnd I think although the video will have a very limited effect, if any, it can’t be a bad thing to remind people that continuing down this path on one hand is literal extinction, and the other is profits for the elite at the expense of ordinary people.",
"If you're trying to shit on me for not voting. Please direct your attention to the part where I say I do vote and respectfully fuck off.",
"What bothers me the most about this. Humans will not go extinct due to climate change. First of all, there is not a single model that promotes that. And we as a species have outlived epochs of worse. \n\nRandom source if you care: [https://www.livescience.com/climate-change-humans-extinct.html](https://www.livescience.com/climate-change-humans-extinct.html) \n\n\nSo not even the simplest message of this video makes any sense. It is more than pointless.",
"Batteries aren't Earth proof either, and there are myriad of problems capable of happening the more energy is stored in a single battery. They are essentially bombs. If you're as likely to trust a massive expansion in battery technology and usage, I really do not understand the reservation to nuclear energy. They both have their inherent flaws, its just the pros in almost all cases heavily outweigh the cons. The issue with batteries and renewable energy is, our technology just isn't quite there yet. If we truly want to move away from fossil fuels in the immediate future, nuclear **must** be part of that transition. There isn't any other way to go.",
"And this kids, is the reason why we are definitely going extinct. It's not me, it's them !!! Guess who those evil corporations sell their stuff to ?",
"\"Think of all the other things that you could do\" with that CGI money",
"Funfact: If you were to live 100 years of your life being 100% carbon neutral, the fossil fuel industry would wipe your efforts in a few seconds. It honestly is pointless for the everday person to cut their emmissions when the fossil fuel industry isnt",
"The United States killed millions of innocent Iraqis and poisoned millions more with depleted uranium shells in an internationally condemned illegal war and occupation of Iraq. Millions in the USA and around the world marched. Take moment to think of the magnitude of that: poisoning millions of civilians versus individuals. \n\nAnd American leaders have outright threatened to bomb the Hague if any Americans are arrested.\n\nAre we the bad guys? Hmmmm….",
"Have to remember that China has 4x the population as the US. And since the industrial revolution the US has emitted twice as much in total.\n\nPeople use China as an excuse to do nothing. They can point at someone else and say they're the bad guy, distracting from the fact they're actually twice as bad on a personal level.",
"Steve!",
"Is this what Bowser is going to sound like?",
"No it's showing them talking dinosaurs",
"Well I mean.. Elon is working on making electronic, clean energy vehicles. [Motor vehicles contribute a pretty significant amount to pollution](https://treehozz.com/how-much-do-cars-contribute-to-pollution) so I'd say that counts for something.",
"This is Sparta?\n\nNo no, it's THIS...IS...SPARTA!",
"I voted. You're welcome, world.",
"It's amazing how few comments in here are actually talking about the subject matter in the video. Fossil fuel companies don't need 470 billion a year in subsidies to run their companies. That's the sum total given to fossil fuel companies each year by all the countries in the world.\n\nThey don't need it. That's your tax money being given to them. Demand that your countries stop giving your tax money to fossil fuel companies.",
"They will become the UN in a decade or two whether you like it or not.",
"They're an alternative to receiving dental care.",
"Just keep the dinosaur away from Saudi Arabian embassies",
"Obviously many would understand english? Also even if they dont im pretty sure they all have translators listening.",
"Even if every single country voted to lift the embargo on Cuba, including the US, it wouldn't be automatically done. It's a US action, not a UN action. They have nothing to do with it. \n\nIt was really dumb to bring it up, and also to call it a blockade. The OP seems to think it would end if only the US and Israel voted yes. The US would end it with or without a UN general assembly resolution.",
"This ad is targetted towards millenials but we don't have that much power.",
"> They argue (either willfully ignorant or maliciously lying)",
"If you have spent any time in the politics subreddit, there are a lot more than can be described by just saying \"multiple\".",
"Right? Lmao",
"Racist",
"99.9% of the 40k people who live in my small town are exactly that and worse.\n\nIt's... both hilarious... but sad...",
"I was worried we would never come together as a world and change our behavior for the better. This gives me new hope.",
"They stated that we were more of a pariah than any other country. I’m just pointing out his hyperbole",
"So I know that's Jack Black, but at parts he was really sounding like Steve Blum (Spike from Cowboy Bebop, and a million other things.) \n\nNo further commentary, just thought it was novel.",
"At around :50 they cut to a guy putting his earpeace back in",
"Its propaganda. \n\nYes climate change is a massive problem but that is only the top level message. The underlying message is one of cooperation and hope. Probably setting the general public up for a larger propaganda drive telling us everything is fine as long as we (The human race) do something about a couple of these \"minor\" issues. Telling the masses that everything is fine is an attempt at calming everything down.",
"They know it. That's why they censored their own research whenever it showed the truth about climate change.",
"True the government does subsidize the oil. That's pretty much socialism! \n\nGas price under $5 is cheap! \n\nSocialism Suck!\n\nStop the socialism! \n\nThe government pays like $15 usd per gallon for it! That's messed up!\n\nRaise gas price to $20 a gallon! \n\nSay NO to socialim!\n\nWho's vehicle uses the most gas are Super Socials!",
"Subsidizing things can be used to accelerate the adoption of technology where normal market forces would move too slowly. Because of how entrenched markets work in capitalism it's possible for a large enough industry, like fossil fuels, to continue for decades even if better alternatives exist. Subsidizing research into electric vehicles, batteries, and accelerating the construction and standardization of charging stations among other things can solve problems that might naturally takes decades longer to occur, if ever.",
"This is one of those things so dumb it'll probably hurt the cause.",
"It’s all theoretical. I mentioned one of them in regards to how not all dinosaurs had feathers, and your response was to say that I am wrong, and to respond with a different theory as an absolute fact? Hardly a way to assert your intellect in civil discourse. I hope you can do better than that.\n\n> Exactly how many dinosaurs had feathers has been contentious, but a new study has shown that feathers were likely restricted to just a small proportion of the non-bird dinosaurs. \n\n...\n\n> We can't be certain that the feather-like structures seen on theropods like the tyrannosaurs originated from a follicle in the skin because these microscopic structures are not preserved. But the fact that these animals are so closely related to birds, on the basis of numerous features seen throughout their skeletons, means these structures are considered to be true feathers.\n\n...\n\n> 'We have really strong evidence that animals like the duck-billed dinosaurs, horned dinosaurs and armoured dinosaurs did not have feathers because we have lots of skin impressions of these animals that clearly show they had scaly coverings,' says Paul. 'We also have zero evidence of any feather like structures in the long-necked dinosaurs, the sauropodomorphs. If we look at the evidence that we do have, and we combine that with evolutionary trees, what we find is that there is no evidence for the first dinosaurs being feathered.'\n\nMaybe don’t be so absolute when discussing theoretical subjects found within science, eh? \n\nI wish you well.\n\nSource: [The Natural History Museum: “The first dinosaurs probably didn't have feathers”](https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2020/march/the-first-dinosaurs-probably-didn-t-have-feathers.html)\n\nEDIT: And before you get back to me with “But the theropods...”, I never mentioned any particular species of dinosaurs in my reply. I was making a more broader statement in regards to not all dinosaurs having had scales according to certain theories.",
"Oh fair enough, I must have missed that part.",
"Everyone who agrees with me is in the same position I am. And every last one of them is \"someone else\" so you're shifting the goalposts.\n\nEven the combination of all of our miniscule efforts is a drop in the bucket unless we change how power is generated. And like I was saying, that requires government intervention. More than one government in fact.",
"\"You OK? Ya need a minute?\"\n\nGold.",
"It's very rare that dreams represented on screen ever turn out looking good and not goofy or dumb.",
"Maybe if you're on a razr lmao it's 2021 get a bigger screen with a YouTube app",
"Was that jack black?",
"The message is always things will be bad after your life is over!! Who alive is going to care about that? I never understand these things.",
"PSA: capitalism causes humanity to kill itself and humans couldn't care less",
"Just when you thought the UN couldn't be a bigger joke.",
"corporations: nah we choose money",
"That raptor makes a lot of good points",
"Stroke?",
"Reddit is a massive corporation yet you still use it.",
">They argue (either willfully ignorant or maliciously lying)\n\nYou're the second person who has responded to me and either didn't read this or misunderstood. That's exactly what I'm saying. This video doesn't actually address the viewpoints held by dissenting opinions. Instead it re-expresses the opinions of those who already believe in climate change reform.",
"Wordswordswordswordswordswords",
"wait, there's fcking giant talking lizards in this world. man fck that, choose extinction",
"wtf can i do about it",
"I think everyone is kinda missing the point. This video is much less about climate change than it is about pushing the idea that we (human kind) will be ok if we work together. The message is \"Hope through unity\". \n\nIts a propaganda piece to push the idea of governments working together on a global scale. This same idea was front and center in almost every speech given at the annual meeting in September.",
"Well that was fucking gay as fuck.",
"/r/thathappened",
"It's not even good CGI, or an effective message...",
"I think it’s targeting politicians and the such. Obviously is going to be a huge miss",
"Why is he posing so sexily and alluring?",
"Holy Jesus TLDR?",
"Name a more worthless organization than the United Nations.",
"I fully expected that raptor to say, \"Alan!\"",
"It doesn't have to. You can structure it so the funds collected from the tax are returned as a dividend targeted at the poor.",
"While OP is wrong that voting Democrat will do anything meaningful, the GOP is full of people who deny climate change, and whether they deny the science, or just don't care, they act as if they think it's not real. And third parties in the US will get nothing done.\n\nIt turns out the entire electoral system is completely captured by the wealthiest individuals that it only fits to serve them, and the only possible change must come from outside that system.",
"It goes great on sweet baby legs. Lizard people love a hot basket of sauced up baby legs. Mmmhhmmhh!!!",
"no, you're a realist. people have been talking about this type of passive progressivism for the past 20 years ESPECIALLY about climate change and even back then it was all \"well we influence the world leaders of tomorrow\" but here we are a few decades later and the same decrepit politicians are in office soaking up tax money changing nothing\n\nthis is drenched with \"i will make this video to feel like I've made a difference while actually making no difference at all\"",
"Yeah except I've voted and nothing changes, no matter who we vote in. Democracy is a fucking scam when everything is bought and paid for by corporations.",
"So there are two groups of people watching a building burn down, and they're both preventing the fire department from putting out the fire, and one of the groups is tossing a few buckets of water on the corner of the building",
"yea but then the rest of the world doesn't get daddy's little handouts when they want money for international aid, military assistance, etc.\n\nit's easy to hold the moral high ground while all of you are living in the pool house",
"how does this contradict my point about the UN's impotence. i dont understand. this reads like a tautology.",
"What are we really supposed to vote for? Literally everything runs off fossil fuels. Air travel, shipping, cars, our electrical infrastructure, the list goes on and on. It will take many generations before we can truly come up with a sustainable world economy.",
"Public opinion doesn't mean anything without valid action. The rich will not let the people vote away their wealth.",
"They can’t trick us! That’s a cgi velociraptor!",
"Yeah it's just pretty fucked that I can't have children because the generation before us refused to do anything rational",
"I mean, it provides additional resource.",
"Qultist: See they aren't even hiding it anymore, the UN is run by lizard people!",
"Lobbyists: Nah.",
"Yes, I as a single human am more damaging to the environment compared to the totality of China. It doesn't matter what the US' pollution output WAS, because we don't live in the past. China RIGHT NOW is the #1 polluter on earth.",
"Sounds good on paper, but won't ever happen. Or, if something does happen, people will only jump to action when it's too late. That's just how the world works",
"> The US and other developing western societies got to trash the environment while other countries remained stuck in the mud.\n\ni always feel lukewarm about this concept. 50 years ago, people didn't REALLY know how harmful smoking was and now we do. should we let the new generations figure it out for themselves or should we keep them from smoking? I understand the analogy isn't perfect because we're talking about global agency and not individual agency but you can't really say \"it's for the good of the whole planet, but these guys don't have to participate (and even worse can actively work against us for a while\"",
"Hate to say it, but it’s both. We need to stop using single use plastics, hard stop. They’re still made of fossil fuels and they’re still causing global warming. What WON’T fix it is telling people to stop using them when they’re readily available and they’re the most convenient and affordable option. The free market is gonna keep doing its thing and we’ll keep destroying the planet. What you do to stop them is dismantle the system that keeps creating and selling them, and banning them from being made.\n\nWe like to blame corporations (and they absolutely are to blame) but corporations do their thing because we are all trapped in the system that keeps us buying things to keep the markets happy. Our lifestyles in the developed world are going to kill us, but it makes no sense to blame the individual when making the choice to live carbon neutral essentially means you can’t participate in normal society. Nobody will make the jump until they’re forced to.",
"Politicians getting paid by Oil Companies : Hehehe oil go brrrrrrrrrr",
"I don't think this is too accurate. It's possible that most people are against or undecided on oil subsidies, but people for cheap gasoline is a huge demographic, probably much bigger than people specifically against oil subsidies.",
"the point with the batteries is yea they're bombs but not all batteries need to be chemical. a lake can be a store of energy. when energy is cheap use it to pump water up into a large basin. when energy is expensive send the water through a hydro electric dam. likewise if batteries were better each house could have a battery wall like musk attempted. the problem with nuclear is the requirement to store the waste for hundreds of years which i don't trust any of us to do",
"i turned off my AC when I left my house this morning. I did MY part.",
"republicans don't believe in anything that won't make them a buck. Its a shame that positions of power attract the worst kind of people. This is a hole I don't think we can dig ourselves out of..\n\nMark my words, once this becomes too big for the most foolish among us to ignore, those in power to help themselves will say that they knew it all along. I am so tired of that cycle.",
"Was that Jack Black-o-Raptor?",
"I hope you're right.",
"if you felt hurt because she talked down to you then you have bigger issues than climate change.",
"cut the shit. it's strictly cultural.",
"Voters. I mean, isn't that obvious?",
"This guy has been copy pasting this gish gallop comment for ages. Half the links don't even back up what the sentence says, but nobody will read them all, so people don't question it.",
"This would have been great if they got the right voice actor",
"Once again the conspiracy people were right. Lizard people.",
"The voice actor sounds a little bit like Wes from three dead trolls in a baggie. [Here is one of their skits](https://youtu.be/nL24aNugo_4).",
"we are doomed. peoples greed exceeds their humanity, we lost the fight and there is not going back. \n\n\n Just end it all now and everyone hit their big red button please. just let this end.",
"Dinosaurs don't, um, talk.",
"Exactly who are they pandering to?",
"Even China Claps? Interesting since they are the one is mainly to blame.",
"It's 2021, can't titles scroll across and let you read the whole thing?\n\nAny decent car stereo has done that when reading music tags. Interfaces that don't do that are utter garbage.",
"Plastic straws are 0.025% of ocean plastic.",
"very perceptive of you.",
"We Dead.",
"What if you and all the people who agree with you stop using power? That would be you, not someone else.",
"Boo this man!",
"Shitty cracked phone screen but thanks for the concern ;)",
"Is this about the virus with 99% survival rate?",
"Dont let the anti straw people know that.",
"What about humanity is worth saving?",
"/u/MagazineSufficient85 is so wrong on this one it's hard to even explain, but I'll try.\n\nThis PSA is for regular folk like me and you in well-off democracies (think Western Europe/North America). It's \"targeting elites\" in the sense that it's going after them, but the PSA isn't for them, it's main goal is obviously to induce political change such that subsidies are revoked and more money is spent on green initiatives.\n\n>They want adolescents to blame themselves and the people for their dire future, instead of blaming the elites.\n\nI don't know how they even got that from the PSA, where is it telling people to blame themselves? It's the opposite, saying the problem isn't that we don't recycle enough or turn the lights off more often, it's that we're incentivizing industries that are harmful for the environment. Unless MagazineSufficient meant multinational oil & gas companies when they said adolescents, it's just illogical.",
"I buy less shit than 90% of people. Stoby buying so much unnecessary stuff and hold compankes accountable and fix your governments. Dont blame some random law abiding guy who does recycle but uses a plastic straw.",
"Batteries leak and involve serious chemicals too. Also, you have to power them with something. \n\nNuclear is possible, big, and much easier on the environment than anything that can compare. All the current stuff that makes \"big power\" (coal, oil, natural gas) are worse for the environment. Everything else is too small, too expensive, and/or too regional. We could just eliminate outrageous amounts of fossil fuel use, almost immediately, with virtually no repercussions, if we just transition to nuclear power and run cars off of the grid.",
"i got lost in the sauce of your metaphor a bit, but the gist of it seems that you're suggesting that the already developed countries were the biggest offenders anyway when it's not even the case as some of the developing countries are India and China which are 1st and 3rd. \n\nI also feel it important to say that my argument isn't suggesting that NOBODY reduce emissions as it kinda seems your thing was implying, more that if we as a planet have decided to move forward with developing in a more green way I don't think anyone should be above that rule even if it slows them economically. as is, it's ludicrous that China gets to do whatever the hell they want when they singlehandedly are responsible for almost a third of the CO2 emissions while also having one of the largest economies (pick a lane) but everyone is afraid to call them for it because of how intertwined they are in the world economy (and how an entire country can and will just delete your company from the country if you protest anything there). compare this to the USA which puts out half as much and we have teens on twitter toppling industries lol.",
"> Who was their targeted demographic here?\n\nThe lefties that have a large carbon footprint, but tell everyone else to change their lifestyles.",
"I mean, dinosaurs weren't intelligent and didn't have technology, in addition to a giant meteor being completely unavoidable and imminent. Our situation isn't remotely the same at all, it was a dumb comparison to begin with.",
"Does it? Public opinion has been anti-global warming for decades and nothing changes",
"Yeah... They do lmao. Maybe he's using off brand/shitty YouTube app.",
"Im finding cutting single use plastics but straws are so fsr doen on the list that trying to stop those over bigger plastic issues simply a waste and just a way for people to feel good for doing nothing. Plastic bags are bad, tons of plastics used in packaging and no one discussed that. It's pure laziness and politics.",
"I guess you're both right. Climate action will definitely affect the poor more than the rich and it's unlikely that they'll be compensated as well as they should be in the US. It's just that co2-fueled climate change has consequences that'll end up hurting the poor disproportionately too and much more so than rising fuel prices.",
"sure go nuclear. You're going to regret it.",
"The trump administration.",
"You wrote that one no problem?",
"How DARE you!",
"Yet another example of why the UN is a useless organization that just spends taxpayer $$ stupidly.",
"> corporations: nah we choose money\n\nYou choose money as well though.",
"I'm daring",
"My god! You still obsessing over that guy after 10 months of him being out of office?\n\nGet a life",
"Your psa is shit asshole",
"you're soooooooo close to getting it, so close!",
"Okay, you fundamentally do not understand how international aid works. There is a good reason that countries are now going out of their way to avoid US international aid. It is, and has always been, a debt trap. This is well documented.",
"These are all great ideas, the issue is where our technology is *right now*. Hydroelectricity doesn't scale very well, so while it may be capable if being used to serve an immediate area, it is only ever going to be supplemental in our growing energy demanding world. Nuclear energy doesn't produce that much waste, certainly not in comparison to emissions from fossil fuels. Hell shoot it into space as test payloads for SpaceX if we're really that concerned about it, the point is if we have an immediate concern waiting for technological developments before implementation of any change is like shooting yourself in the foot. The problem continues to grow while every year we wait for batteries and renewables to get better. Meanwhile, a nuclear power plant can be built and become operational in ~6 years. We don't have to use nuclear forever, but it is a disingenuous to not adopt already existing technology if we're truly at the wake of an existential catastrophe and these facilities cannot be built over night.",
"Why give him a Texas accent and not something nice?",
"how do you know some one doesn't know what they are talking about without them saying it?",
"Incentives is the only way we are going to cut carbon emissions. I get your cynicism of how how unrealistic some policy changes are, but apathy is much much worse than idealism when it comes to existential threats.\n\nJust take one of the problems we are facing, [within a few decades most of oceanic life will die off together with plankton when the carbon sours the oceans below a pH of 7.95.](https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3860950) Half of the biomass of the oceans has already disappeared since the industrial revolution.",
"He's using Cuba as an example, his main point is about the need to get rid of veto power. The fact that you didn't recognize that and instead chose to hyperfocus on his Cuba example says more about you than anything else.",
"nobody cares that you don't care.",
"And everybody clapped",
"\"Not only have we failed to realize we are one people, we have forgotten that we have only one planet.\" ~Jacques Cousteau",
"I've said this before, and I'll say it again. The individual is not the ones causing global warming. Most do their part to combat it. The problem is industry, and big business. They tell you to reduce, reuse, and recycle, while they continue to pollute our planet. Just stop and think for a moment. How much energy did you use Monday night? 30kwh? The Seattle Seahawks football team used 10 million kwh. That's one day (4-6 hours). Now tell me who is causing our extinction again?",
"Mitch McConnell: \"Never.\"\nJoe Manchin: \"Never.\"\n\nThe rest of us: \"Fuck!\"",
"Because if there's one thing china's known for, it's respecting other countries' territorial waters.",
"oh sweety, did you forget that you asked?",
"You're making shit up \n\nOh look, you post on r/Libertarian and you go out of your way to defend how Bezos treats his workers. There's a shocker /s",
"Yeah, this is where you're wrong, you're equating soft power with how well a nation follows international law.\n\nThe US has the most soft power (ergo influence) of any nation in the world right now, and it's not even close. Maybe the EU competes, but even then only as a bloc. That's why for the most part, no one really cares that the US didn't sign whatever Geneva convention or IAEA treaty.\n\nEx. NATO, TPP, AUKUS, NAFTA renegotiations, G7, G20, JCPOA, Taiwan situation, response to Crimea's annexation\n\nNot all of those succeeded but they demonstrate American influence.",
"I didn’t expect there to be obsessive nut jobs out there still foaming at the mouth over trump.\n\nSeriously, move on…",
"Plastic straw ban is definitely insignificant, but the decline in happiness is pretty much insignificant too. If someone actually feels \"screwed\" over a plastic straw I kinda feel like they would've been miserable anyway.",
"I think you meant to post in /r/cringe ?",
"Point out *one*.",
"\"And everyone clapped\" is absolutely the appropriate end to this pointless garbage.",
"No, but we probably can't support 8 billion people.",
"If everyone on earth skipped on that one vacation with 0,00000000001 degrees of increase, the earth would be 0.08 degrees cooler. Skip 5 of them and we are down 0.4 degrees. So I think you just made their point.",
"10°C is equivalent to 50°F, which is 283K.\n---\n^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)",
"That's exactly my point. Whenever China does something that peters on breaking international law, there's headlines everywhere. Meanwhile, when the US absolutely break international law (UNCLOS in this case), with shows of force in the south China sea, nobody bats an eye. So yes, there is a reason why china is Known for it, but it's not because they break international law there more than the US does; it's precisely the opposite: US breaking international law is normalised.",
"You are exactly right. The planet will heal NO PROBLEM. Everything is fixable. Just humans won’t be around.",
"Exactly, like the prisoners dilemma if I remember",
"Should I just hand you my wallet?",
"It’s not a blockade, it’s an embargo. One is surrounding a country or port with military boats and stopping by boats from entering and the other is refusing to trade. \n\nAlso, if you think removing the veto power is going to do anything, you are sorely mistaken. The UN is about as useful as tits on a bull at the best of times. If you take those veto powers the big five are A) going to stop finding it and B) just tell the UN to get ducked when they write them a strongly worded letter. \n\nFor fucks sake, China is committing a literal genocide and the UN did fucking nothing.",
"Reptoids",
"this convinces me he will be a good Bowser.",
"Shhhhhh don’t insult China on Reddit. The red helicopters will come for you.",
"Lucky me, I had Jack Black talks to the UN as a CGI dinosaur in a commercial in my 2021 bingo!",
"> I don't think we can do anything but to get informed and vote. \n\nIt doesn't matter who you vote for, they will still be in the pocket of big oil.",
"Disappointed he didn't have feathers.",
"American democracy is a scam*",
"And then what? So they get a nasty letter from the UN, you think that matters. The UN isn’t going to do anything about it. They aren’t going to send troops. They aren’t going to add trade sanctions to the US when the US can just kill global trade if it wants, same with China. \n\nAlso, you think the US gives two shits if they’re an “international pariah”, they’ve been mocked for 50 years ago as the country of cheeseburgers and rednecks. They don’t care.",
"Cringe",
"> Literally everything runs off fossil fuels.\n\nYou're mixing cause and effect here. Everything runs on fossil fuels because the government subsidizes them, not the other way around at this point.",
"> If you really think they’ll use the tax money to help the poor\n\nYou mean like the $3,200 the government mailed the poor for COVID?\n\nI would want to see the carbon tax applied at the source, so oil producers would be the ones paying it. This will, of course, raise gas prices, which will hurt the poor, which we should offset with the dividend.\n\nCarbon taxes are a real solution to solve this problem once and for all and would affect *everyone* fairly. It wouldn't be possible to just pass the cost off on the poor since the rich consume much more carbon than anyone else. If we demand it, we will get it.",
"\"Oh no theyre standing in a crowd! We should stop accepting millions in donos from big oil and ban fossil fuels!\" said no politician ever.",
"The UN is an embarrassment.",
"But that's exactly my point. And it's not just soft power, far from it. Because of the power the US has on the international stage, it effectively acts as being above international law; and its breaking of international law, or unwillingness to even place itself under it, is entirely normalised. Yes, that's my point, you seem to be agreeing with me.",
"You mean the UN agreement that China repeatedly violates with their China sea islands they are making? That one?\n\nWhy would the US sign anything about that when they don’t need to. The US’s control of the sea is absurd.",
"No feathers?\n\nLiterally unwatchable.\n\n\n\n/s",
"Name what country you're from, I'll inform you who buys your politicians. The UK, Germany, France, etc are no different than the US. You might think you have a say, but who do the politicians assist the most? The citizens or the corporations? In all of the nations listed, it's the latter.",
"Because even if every single person in America quit meat and started growing their own food and shit, the climate is still fucked because of the these big companies that make the world work. \n\nWe need an entire paradigm shift to overcome this. It can't just be one side doing it either, we need both the populace and the governments to work together to get past this shit.",
"No, UNCLOS does not have anything to do with territorial disputes in the south china sea. It does, however, strictly outlaw shows of force that the US partakes in there.\n\n> UNCLOS does not deal with matters of territorial disputes or to resolve issues of sovereignty, as that field is governed by rules of customary international law on the acquisition and loss of territory.[12][13]\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_on_the_Law_of_the_Sea\n\nThere are different laws that apply to territorial disputes, and they are far more circumstantial and nuanced. China believes it has legitimate claims in the south china sea, other countries disagree. It will take a lot of time and effort to sort that out.",
"I just ate my chocolate lab, your logic didn't hold up",
"I asked a bartender for a straw one time at a casino and he handed me a little, plastic, cocktail straw and said \"Here you go dolphin killer\". Took me a minute after waking away to process what happened. Was probably around the time that turtle video was getting lots of attention.",
"Best food lotion.",
"Nah, it all goes back to [ancient greece](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXt0VCPKfQ4)",
">Mass, sustained protest.\n\nYou know what happens when you have over 10% of the population of a city on the streets at once? The city stops. It's just like strikes. Mass, sustained ones work.",
"Stop calling them laws, they aren’t laws, they’re treatises. Laws have consequences for breaking them, these do not. I get you read a whole wiki page but you have no idea what you’re talking about. \n\nThe US can not violate a treatise they are not party to. That’s would be like you spitting outside in the US and China sending you a fine for spitting outside because it’s illegal in China. \n\nThe number of international treatises signed by a country indicates nothing. The us isn’t going to hamstring itself so weaker countries can feel better, especially when it would conflict with their complete ownership of the worlds oceans.",
"At literally no juncture was it supposed to be global police.",
"Sure we all watched it but did we all take it seriously?",
"It doesn't matter. \n\nInternalizing external costs is how you make markets work properly. Yes, when you implement it on the manufacturing side, some goods will be more expensive. That's the point. People will naturally choose cheaper products, and carbon emissions get reduced.",
"Something telling about this piece…",
"Everyone on Reddit hates China though..",
"> The US can not violate a treatise they are not party to.\n\nYes, lol, that's my point, and why they are an international pariah. You're making my argument for me perfectly. But they also do break treaties they are signed and ratified with.",
"Carbon tax. Offset costs to poor people with lowering other taxes, or tax dividends.\n\nI don't even understand the point of your criticism unless you disagree with the goals.",
"People wearing Che tshirt think Cuba is better than the US since it has free healthcare.",
"I hope you're joking. But just in case you're not, The House of Saud, isn't a race.",
"That is very very very false. Your average citizen wants cheap gas and will happily subsidize oil.",
"I'm not saying the overall message of trying to get away from fossil fuels is wrong or that it's a bad video, but humans aren't going to become extinct from rising sea levels or warmer temperatures or even failing vegetation unless some permafrost melts and releases some viruses.\n\nThere would be drastic social upheavals, famines, and lots of people would die, and large areas of the earth will become harder to live in, but humans wouldn't go extinct.",
"That Velociraptor? Jack Black.",
"If you think that humanity has a significant risk of going extinct due to climate change, you are no better informed about the issue than someone who doesn't believe climate change is real.",
"Last I checked we've had nationwide RIOTS here without anything being accomplished. No they don't lmao.",
"Oh that's a great idea. Hey why don't I just skip a step and kill myself! /s\n\nSeriously, that's not feasible. I can barely even cut back on my power consumption.",
"That would probably be the most realistic thing that UN officials would take away from that.",
"Really, a video of a CGI dinosaur preaching to a useless and ineffective group of politicians who all stand and clap when it’s done isn’t going to be helpful?",
"You probably do more than you realise. You haven't been the cause of any environmental catastrophes, you probably don't make frequent unnecessary business trips, you're not pillaging the earth's resources on a mass scale. Not everyone can say that.\n\nI'm not saying we should all do nothing; activism, voting, whatever you personally can do is great. But putting the onus on the people with the least power + influence, can come across like we're not expecting the same from those who are actually responsible for the vast majority of it.",
"You know not all countries use our flawed representative model, right? Switzerland for example?",
"Hello fellow kids. 🤦",
"The label “dinosaurs” is a huge umbrella term and in no universe did they all share the same features. Even though certain species have been confirmed to have had feathers, it’s perfectly correct to point this out here. Palaeontology is very much detective work so you have to factor in a lot of possibilities and be open to honest argumentation. A great YouTube channel I would recommend if you’re interested is “Your Dinosaurs Are Wrong”!\n\nAlso idk why this other guy is being rude to you. You sounded perfectly reasonable and genuine to me.",
"Go look at the citation-dense comment above. The perfect carbon tax is progressive, so one person driving isn't taxed into oblivion while the rich spit as much smoke as they want. The perfect carbon tax uses those taxes to lower the cost of living for everyone.\n\nCost of living. Ever think about that? It's literally how much you have to spend just to be alive on this planet. If you do not meet the cost of living, you simply die. This definitely was the preferred method of running the world for a long time, mouths to feed but there's no food. \n\nWe just don't have to do that anymore. We can use money collected from the perfect carbon tax (since there's a whole lot of carbon being put into the atmosphere by the corporate overlords) to solve poverty in the United States. Imagine if everything in this video for the path to save humanity happened.\n\nEveryone in the whole world could be alive, safe, and well fed, look around and smile at their existence. So many people can't do that in America, let alone other countries, because various processes that release carbon are just *so profitable*. Make jobs fixing the climate and everything just gets better.",
"Gee thanks UN, you made me realize that I should tell the UN to do it's job and stop meme-ing.",
"Know who else is blocking everything besides just Sinema and Manchin? Every single one of the Republican Senators. \n\nIt takes two to tango but only one to drop on the floor and play the “pretend I’m dead” game so that if even one small muscle of the other dancer doesn’t cooperate they both collapse.",
"Was that Jack black?",
"Ah yes, Switzerland, the country that has been lead by a far right nationalist party since 2011. The *pinnacle* of democracy for sure.\n\nAnd also the Federal Assembly is a bicameral body no different from Congress so...You're wrong. They're just as much a representative democracy as we are, unless you wanna tell me they only have 246 citizens.",
"Public opinion only counts on voting day.",
"The edgy liberal arts college student smell coming from you is suffocating. Not only do you not know what you’re talking about you can’t keep on topic. \n\nThe US’s involvement or lack therefore of in the UN, THE FUCKING UN, is not why people complain about the US. No one actually cares what is agreed on at the UN. It’s also impossible to be a pariah when every economy on the planet is dependent on you to buy their shit. \n\nYou may want to go back to your drum circle and complain there, you’re going to have away more receptive audience than you’ve found here.",
"Sure, but realistically..that’s never going to happen..so..\n\nWhat’s the point in even imagining that?",
"What's the alternative?",
"Fascinating PSA, honestly. \n\nUsing a dinosaur to speak means you'll have to use a voice actor and CGI. It can be translated into any language with lip syncing (though not great on the English one here) and likely come across less dubbed than if an upright, mostly-hairless mammal were speaking. \n\nThe CGI though...Mr. Dinosaur looks straight out of Jurassic ~~Park~~ World. Hey isn't there a new one perpetually on the horizon, pushed back in fears of low theatre attendance amidst a pandemic? This had to cost a decent amount to produce, I'd be genuinely shocked if this wasn't linked. \n\nAnywho, if any of that's true, I'm mostly for it. Doesn't set a great precedent for UN messaging and corporate sponsorships/ads but this is a critical moment indeed.",
"Can we elect that well-spoken *Utahraptor* president of the United States?",
"Skipping 5 vacations has a cost: the enjoyment of my life.",
"The United States gives these dipwads entirely too much money.",
"*citation needed",
"Could you explain how US actions in the South China Sea have violated UNCLOS?",
"> I want to play video games.\n\n\n“But muh vidya and muh capeshit movies!”\n\n“You really expect me to sacrifice that?”\n\nYeah..it’s official, we’re screwed.",
"By golly, he’s figured it out! Fuckin cringe",
"Who is going to pay to suck carbon out of the skies? Even a whole country fully dedicating all their resources to that job would be fighting against the rest of the world burning fossil fuels.\n\nIt is much easier and cheaper to lower emissions than pump it out.",
"It's definitely a hard fight, but resigning to apathy or worse shouting down people who want to do something about it is sad.",
"Okay, I'm a PhD in physics, but whatever.\n\nThe point you seem to be missing, is that there is an international community that exists outside the US, and they have come to various different consensus about how they should act towards each other. The US continually ignores and breaks these consensus, making them a pariah.\n\nPretty simple straight forward argument. Not really sure what you are taking issue with.",
"You missed the sustained part. Those were sparks, not fires.",
"Jurassic Park. At one point an escaped raptor sneaks up on her handler that is trying to sedate all of the escaped raptors and just before he dies, he notices her and says “Clever girl.”\n\nEdit: Not really sure why people downvoted an honest question about a nearly 30-year-old movie.",
"Not skipping them has a bigger cost, the health of the global biosphere and the enjoyment of the lives of all humans to come.",
"mobilization of a global effort to concentrate on development of sustainable energy generation by building new infrastructure in developing countries so they're less willing to resort to worse energy production. \n\nI also wonder what ways we can make things more efficient.",
"And then they chose extinction.",
"Just guilt tripping average people into thinking they are the ones to blame for climate change instead of big corporations.",
"Of course it can happen. Carbon taxes would be an easy way, without changing much. That vacation wouldn't be 1000 USD anymore.",
"Right, so let's just lay down and fucking die. It takes more than voting every 4 years. You have to vote in local elections also. This attitude is 100% the reason we are where we are right now. Fuck apathy.",
"It'd be a quicker demise at least",
"Ack! Ack ack ack! Ack!",
"In basic, UNCLOS says that there are certain limits around a country that are their territorial waters, and that outside of them, international waters, any individual country does not have authority. The US, going well outside of its own territorial waters, and doing shows of aggression aimed at China in international waters, and sometimes even water that are in territorial dispute by third party countries and china, is them trying to enforce their authority in contradiction of UNCLOS. However, the US isn't even a signatory of UNCLOS, so technically, they aren't breaking anything. But that's the point; they ignore international consensus like no other country does. China, on the other hand, is a signatory of UNCLOS, as is most of the rest of the world.\n\nImagine if China sent a fleet off the coast of the US, or in disputed water with Cuba and the US, in an effort to intimidate the US into dropping (illegal) sanctions on Cuba, imagine the international reaction to such a thing, and you start to get a sense of just how much of a pariah the US is.",
"why does his VA keep sounding like an alternating between jack black and a southern gentlemen",
"Lol..so let’s make everyone suffer to get our way?\n\nYou really think that’s going to end well for the people who try to lower the quality of life to enforce this measure?\n\nOnce again..it’s not realistic and it will never happen (atleast not that way, for sure).",
"It's like in Taxi Driver. There's nobody else here.",
"Something something lizard people.",
"You’re thinking of Independence Day. Jurassic park made me not want to clone things",
"Oh, shit. I should have realized. It makes sense given the huge amount of legal classes one must take in order to get a PHD in physics.\n\nThere’s legal interactions of subatomic particles, the 1982 quark accord, the highly infamous euro-asian wave particularly duality conference and of course the subsequent legal kerfufles from that, am I right. \n\nBragging about a physics PhD in a political discussion is like bragging about having a fine art degree when you’re talking about how to fix a flat tire. \n\nYou don’t understand international law, you incorrectly used the term repeatedly, you’ve been inconsistent on every assertion you’ve made, and you generally have no idea about international politics. \n\nI don’t care that you have a jstor login and go through legal documents when you’re bored. You barely have enough knowledge of these situations to be able to sound wildly ignorant. \n\nStay in your lane, you’re way out of your depth.",
"That dinosaur is tremendous, let me tell you folks.",
"Whatever it is we are doing doesn't work, so fair play to them to keep trying. The children are our future and all that.",
"Clever Girl",
"haha I have seen Jurassic Park a few times and have seen people say \"Clever Girl\", but didn't make the association to the movie. Thank you for answering!",
"Okay I'm gonna be blunt.\n\nTHIS IS NOT A JOKE. CLIMATE CHANGE IS VERY SERIOUS AND THINGS NEED TO CHANGE. \n\nAhh yelling!! Seriously tho, everyone knows change is hard, so we all need to buckle up together and take a risk.",
"Yes, you are super cynical. Look at what the world consumes for media today and tell me a CGI Dinosaur isn't on the same level of the shit that gets posted on this site daily and what get upvoted to the sky. They don't give a fuck about people like you, they need to convince the morons waving Trump flags and who get their news from Facebook and Instagram.",
"\"I'm rich enough to survive, and someone else will fix it\" -every rich person",
"Well. Now I know why Jack Black posted a picture of a raptor on his Instagram.",
"LOL you're unbelievable. you're the one that starts baseless adhominem attacks, and then my mere and inconsequential dismissal of those attacks, sends you on an irrelevant rant where you ignore the simple point I made.\n\nWell done, you played yourself, fool. And guess what, knowledge is what is important, not titles. People are perfectly capable of accessing and understanding knowledge outside of institutional titles they have been granted. \n\nAnyway, you're clearly not a serious person. You are in fact a fool. So, don't expect any further replies; I will not be reading your comments. I have no interest in engaging with a fool. Have a good day.",
"I bet the building was asking for it",
"I'm surprised he didn't put USA in triple parentheses",
"I think every one knows the dangers ahead. The problem is, on a large and small scale, no one knows what the fuck to do about it.",
"Ah now Reddit gets to pretend like they know anything about how the world works.",
"6uild 6ack 6etter",
"Skipping a cruise doesn't seem like a huge sacrifice. \n\n\nBy \"not that way\", you mean carbon taxation or skipping cruises?",
"We can go with that but I'm still left asking, who is it propaganda for?",
"They were some of the most sustained protests of the past 30 years. They went weeks without pause.",
"The future is wild",
"Whoever designed the dinosaur just watched Jurassic Park and didn’t bother consulting scientific reconstructions.",
"That's not Zuckerberg dude that's a dinosaur.",
"I've voted every year since I turned 18. It'll be a decade soon and shit hasn't changed at all, in fact I think it's gotten worse. The so called progressives are bought off just as much as the conservatives. It's not apathy when it's fact. Open your eyes to the reality bro.",
"Also the velociraptor was extinct before the meteor.",
">Two countries with nuclear weapons will never fight each other.\n\nUntil someone from any one country with nukes happens to ever be acting irrationally while in power. Then the whole world is at risk of nuclear annihilation. Great defense.",
"Alright I’m gonna be *that* guy. Climate change is not an existential crisis, is it the most disastrous thing human civilization has faced? Sure, but if even only 1% of 1% of humanity survives, that’s not extinction. The species will still continue. The odds of it killing everyone, however, is basically zero. There are plenty of existential threats to humanity, but climate change isn’t generally seen as one.",
"I mean by indirectly forcing people through insane taxation to no longer do the things they previously enjoyed doing..it will not end well for the people who enforce it. \n\nIt will totally backfire and eliminate any chances of it ever happening.",
"In the US, maybe. It took us many months, and using all the social connections that had been built by mass protests in the past 15 years to accomplish large changes, but it can be done. It has been done before. Who said changing the world was going to be easy? BLM was a good first step. You need to follow up. Show them that you won't stop until stuff changes.",
"right? Being subjected to this cringe makes me want to go run my car",
"if the raptor was feathered it would be the focus of the video",
"Now that's a chaos theory.",
"It's the piiiiiick of destiny!",
"what, you think I'd watch that blatant propaganda? Fuck off",
"Insane taxation? It's economics 101. Negative externalities. Not having carbon taxes, not including the very real environmental cost of things in their price, subsidizes destruction. Why should the world pay for one man's vacations? Let him pay for the damage he would be causing.",
"ALLEN!",
"Yes: https://www.shots.net/news/view/the-uns-raptorous-reception",
"Because it’s voiced by Jack Black.",
"okay, but, what can I do about it. Please tell me that dinosaur",
"I dont think global warming and a global extinction event are on the same level. Also wtf",
"I don’t believe I saw any feathers. What Utahraptor doesn’t have feathers?",
"Imagine if China sent a fleet off the coast of the US, or in disputed water with Cuba and the US, imagine the international reaction to such a thing, and you start to get a sense of just how much of a pariah the US is.",
"> BLM was a good first step\n\nI was mistaken when I said weeks in my former comment, looking back actually the protests lasted several months without pause. \n\nThey literally even burned down a fucking police station. What was accomplished? Literally nothing, police budgets have been increased and cops still kill with impunity.",
"But, it *is* published on the UN YouTube page. Obviously not *made* by policy makers, but also rubber stamped by whatever UN panel oversees their PR and public outreach.\n\nIt's doubtful that UN delegates have all that much say in what each of their member countries do with their GDP, so IMO it's a way for the UN to apply public pressure/set expectations without relying on delegates to go home and do it themselves. \n\nI mean, it's hard to say how effective it is without knowing what their intent is for this video, but if their goal is to get people talking - well, we're here aren't we?",
"Ami Horowitz U.N. Me",
"> Lobbyist aren't crazy expensive.\n\nCorrection, lobbyist aren't crazy expensive **now**. If commoners start pooling their money to hire lobbyists, the rich will just price the commoners out.",
"Jack Black fans",
"https://www.shots.net/news/view/the-uns-raptorous-reception",
"Yes: https://www.shots.net/news/view/the-uns-raptorous-reception",
">Yeah, thats the viewpoint I'm criticizing. Do you not see the issues in the US, who became a world leader through destroying the environment, criticizing a developing country using the cheapest forms of development (at the expense of the environment) while suggesting they use more sustainable forms of development (at a higher cost)?\n\ni mean this is the same logic that is applied within the US when criticizing cities that rely on coal mining, but traditionally your side of the argument always says that that town has to move on even though entire generations will have no way of re-training themselves for new vocations. the alternative is just letting it go on forever because there will always be a 'still developing' nation because it's not like the modern nations stop developing to let the others catch up. at a certain point you just draw a line in the sand even if there are some economic casualties.\n\n>It's not sustainable, and frankly it's not fair. I believe that if the west/developed nations care about the environment, in this instance, they would help a developing country in implementing sustainable development by making the cost the same as the cheapest methods.\n\nit isn't fair that some people are 7 feet tall and can dunk on me in basketball but that's the way it is. you boil it down to countries that have already industrialized vs those that haven't but there are tons of factors involved and it's not like the west actively discouraged the growth of every other country (some of the countries didn't even exist yet). I do agree that a good middle ground would be assisting in the implementation of sustainable development systems but again this gets weird when some of the biggest offenders/developing nations are also the bigger economies \n\n>I don't get your point, what teens are 'toppling industries'? And you are aware social media stars/influencers are extremely prevalent in the East, just as much so in the West.\n\nmy point was that public opinion is not a real currency in China because the government has an absolute stranglehold on the economy to the point of having full control over the force of its 1b+ potential consumers; they say so, and nobody buys from a specific company anymore. this is not present in any other country that I can think of especially at a governmental level. I reference twitter mobs because that court of public opinion is the closest thing reflected to this with the 'ability' to cancel companies and people but is still nowhere near the economic or focused scale of an entire country essentially turning off half your revenue. It's the reason every company/celebrity immediately turns around and kisses the boot every time they accidentally offend Chinese sentiment: because they risk losing the whole country's base rather than just the half that disagrees (see L. James, H&M over the summer, pretty much any mainline social media platform, etc.)\n\nI don't think we REALLY disagree on the main point so much as the way to get there, but I just don't see how any plan can be feasible while the two of the most populous and offending countries will get to essentially cancel out the hardwork of the rest of the planet (while also the rest of the planet foots the whole bill hence giving them no incentive to stop).",
"> Why should the world pay for one man's vacations? Let him pay for the damage he would be causing.\n\nWhat you aren’t understanding is that the few times people *actually get off their asses* to protest and make change is when *their own quality of life decreases*.\n\nWhat do you think is going to happen when people who previously loved to travel can no longer do so?\n\nAt that point, there is only one group of people who will be “paying” and it’s the group that brought about this change.\n\nIf you think 99% of people will suddenly just choose to no longer care about vacations..you are literally out of your mind.\n\nAmerica already has a mental health crisis, doing this would tip people over the edge and you would see “activism” like you’ve never seen before *against* these measures.\n\nIt’s never going to happen…atleast, not in this lifetime.",
"Yes: https://www.shots.net/news/view/the-uns-raptorous-reception",
"So they went with ... a talking dinosaur?",
"Oil and gasoline are not net-subsidized.",
"All Maniraptorans definitely had feathers, though, and feathers were definitely ancestral to Coelurosaurs, although they may have been secondarily lost in some Tyrannosaurs. The dinosaur in the video (despite being based on Jurassic Park instead of scientific reconstructions) is clearly supposed to be a Dromaeosaur, so it should have feathers.\n\nSome scientists do believe that the common ancestor of all dinosaurs *and pterosaurs* had feathers, which would mean that every single dinosaur either had feathers, or was descended from ancestors with feathers; this is dependent on whether pterosaur and ornithischian filamentous integumentary structures are actually primitive feathers, or just similar to feathers, which is still controversial.",
"I will no longer subsidize oil companies.",
"...and that, my people, is the **epitome** of \"The Reddit Argument\".\n\nA says something, B vehemently disagrees and presents a different theory without evidence, A explains in depth why they were correct, addressing all relevant points, and finally B dismisses them for spending so much time participating in the argument they started.\n\n[edit] ....and the deleted comments just seals the deal! You just can't get any better than that, folks!",
"Smoking some meats",
"Someone should make a movie showing exactly what their dreams entail, not some Inception type thing, I'm talking wild shit. I'd pay for, especially if they were mine",
"Fossil fuel companies aren't net-subsidized.",
"who is this meant for?",
"I mean, we are if you're talking about a mass extinction event.",
"What scene are they talking about?",
"and I'm all for it, because the big-brother syndrome is frankly exhausting (in this case referring to how everyone hates their mean older brother until they need his help with the neighborhood bully).\n\nthat being said, China pretty much owns all the US debt so it's all trickling that way anyway",
"Pretty much anywhere the government is spending money at this point is bad for us",
"it is being done but for every teaspoon we take out they throw another bathtub full in. . we just need a lot more of em",
"An ok climate change message and everyone is just saying \"How does this help\"... Y'all edge lords gonna die together when climate change changes everything, almost rooting for it now.",
"Very unlikely. CO2 capture is mainly something you do at the source of emission where you have a dramatically higher concentration of CO2 than in the atmosphere.\n\nPresently our technology used for CO2 capture is nowhere near where it needs to be to make an impact by pulling from the atmosphere.",
"You have a very simplistic and naïve view of the world.",
"talking evolved raptor, very scary.",
"I love it in my Mac N Cheese or in my cereal!",
"Ultimately the UN is a means to avoid great power conflict. Anything else is extra.",
"Dinosaurs have all the answers.",
"Great detailed answer. Much respect. I totally appreciate the point being made about the dinosaur in the video. I straight up thought this was a collab with the latest Jurassic movie or something at first. I was mostly just defending the guy’s comment since it isn’t by any means a definite fact that all dinosaurs had feathers.\n\nAs a side note: I felt like nitpicking an already pretty ridiculous UN social announcement video is a little pointless anyways. I get social awareness about accurate dinosaur depiction but there’s plenty of that starting in video games and other media. It’s not like the UN social media team needs to get it right before the general public can understand that dromaeosaurs had feathers.",
"Well Utaraptor... well allo... well yeah damn what the Hell UN? WHERE ARE THE FEATHERS?",
"Why? Because if a group of people is guilty of something, and you intentionally attempt to expose one of them while ignoring the rest, then we can filter your words through the knowledge of your intentions.",
"Carbon Dioxide is plant food.\n\nOur current 400ppm of CO2 is about 6% of the theoretical planetary maximum of 6,000ppm-7,000ppm. We are still recovering from the lowest CO2 levels in the planet’s history.\n\nWe should take care of our home and not fill it with crap. The vast majority of people don’t do that. Is it our fault that when we recycle, domestic corporations don’t buy the raw materials and instead local communities pay Chinese firms to take the plastic across the ocean and instead of recycling, they just dump it in the ocean? Because that’s a big part of what our giant garbage patches come from- the rest is from active trash dumping, which also should have never been allowed. The EPA and FDA have let through so many exotic toxic chemicals, it may not be safe for centuries to have giant landfills and then later build on top of them. But dumping in the ocean is worse.\n\nWe should stop fooling with the weather and actively changing the climate to understand our real impact on climate before we force the entire world to live in darkness and have electricity 4 hours/day like we live in Africa. Sometimes if you stop throwing rocks in a pool, the waters begin to calm. We have no idea whether the crazy weather patterns are a result of passive human activity or active weather manipulation- but the weather manipulation is constant and widespread. Here’s a snippet from the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation if you want to an introduction to this reality:\n\nWEATHER MODIFICATION\nHarvesting the Texas Skies in 2020 - A Summary of Rain Enhancement Operations in Texas\nhttps://www.tdlr.texas.gov/weather/summary.htm\n\nThe people raising panic about Carbon Dioxide and pushing for sequestration want to starve billions of humans. Carbon Tax and the resulting “carbon credits” are just a scam super currency that will allow the hyper wealthy to extend their dominion over the planet. They won’t change a single thing about their polluting behavior, but it will squeeze out every small and medium and large businesses in favor of the mega corporations that can trade carbon credits in exchange for wanton polluting. And the only places these will be enforced will be in the West- China already snubbed its nose at the Paris Climate Agreement and now the same product that could be made in America with strict environmental regulations will be (and has been for 2 generations) made in China with no regulations and then shipped across the oceans.\n\nGovernment has enabled corporations to outsource our economy and destroy the productivity of our countries, particularly America.\n\nAnd of course, maybe two people will read this before I get permanently banned for “denying climate science”. There is so much evidence that the Oligarchs pushing this narrative are full of crap. Does this mean we shouldn’t make widespread changes to protect our planet? Of course not. But the people who created and incessantly advertise the crisis should not be the ones allowed to provide solutions that only enrich themselves at the expense of the rest of the human race. They keep buying beachfront mansions. Do what they do, not what they say.",
"Can’t wait to see how politicians will profit off the jurrasic park climate change DLC",
"utter nonsense",
"Uhhh, the documentary OP just posted says otherwise.",
"Children it’s about indoctrination",
"The people who aren’t fucking around in other peoples’ business.",
"The UN cannot just make policy changes for different countries... Countries have to do that themselves",
"Exactly. Most countries in the world are democracies.\n\nThe leaders currently in power didn't just materialize themselves there. People voted for them.\n\nBut Reddit always needs to be so fucking cynical about everything. This South Park way of life where nothing matters is one of the reasons we are in this mess.",
"I think their joke is that not everybody would cheer for his message since clearly world leaders haven’t gotten on board yet in real life.",
"I think their joke is that not everybody would cheer for his message since clearly world leaders haven’t gotten on board yet in real life.",
"fuck um rolling coil! fuck biden!",
"Anyone who will listen? And with how weird it is it's working. We are watching and talking about it.",
"Redditors",
"Jurassic Park 3\n\nThere's a scene where the main character Allan Grant is dreaming about raptors until he gets woken up- which is represented by the raptor saying \"Allan!\"\n\nThat's literally it.",
"That's because they stopped. The attendance waning, with a peak below the critical treshold. Research has shown that no protest movement has failed to enact change when it hits a peak of over 3.5% percent of active population attendance (at once). But reaching that point is hard. Don't lose faith in your power. In my country it took us many false starts.\n\n1996.\n\n2008.\n\n2010 (succesfully stopped a coal power plant).\n\n2011 (partially successful, free college for the poorest 40%).\n\n2012-2014 (successfully stopped a destructive dam hidro power plant).\n\nPlenty of mass feminist protests afterwards to keep the organizations and social connective tissue alive.\n\n2019 (\"El levantamiento social\") was the year when we rocked our country and managed to wear down the powers that be and change our constitution. At our peak we had 2 million protestors in a city of 7 million. Building momentum takes time and work, don't give up.",
"Most TV etc. portrayals of them in the media. Feathers are hard to animate",
"This is a legitimately good message, but IDK what this will do to influence 60+ year old members of congress to betray their donors in Oil. They don't give a shit. They'll be dead before it will affect them, and they honestly don't care about their constituents or Grandkids. \n\nWhat are Billionares doing now? Space race. So when everything goes tits up they can sell tickets to the wealthy for the next habitable planet/spacestation/etc. \n\nThe only chance the working class has is to run for office with integrity and kick these old fucks out. This isn't just in the US, but everywhere.",
"cause most people aren't clever and need simple spoon feed messages. like you two",
"I am writing this under the assumption that you think the suffering going on in Cuba is because the country is not allowed to trade anything but food and medicine imports from the U.S\n\nCould this not be seen as a great paradox. Is the tragedy denial of access to capitalism? Because if so the Cuban government is doing the same to its people.\nWhy is it essential for Cuba to trade with the U.S? And is it your honest opinion that not trading with Cuba is evil?\n\nSurely you don't think any country should be forced to trade with another? The reason for the embargo is the Cuban government's lack of \"democratization and greater respect for human rights\". The U.S is not interested in this regime staying in power, the same way they don't want to help Iran or North Korea to do so either.",
"No I'm not. And looking through my comment history to attack me just makes you look bad.",
"> That's because they stopped.\n\nSo your definition of \"sparks\" is \"3 months of nonstop protesting\", what the fuck is sustained? Several years of nonstop protesting?",
"I love it in my human consumption materials!",
"It won't happen. We can try voting out the problems, but they get replaced by new problems that are voted in. We have limited choices of who we get to bring in, and those individuals almost always ignore problems like this.\n\nThen we have countless people who know they are not going to live long enough to see the end of the world, so they blatantly ignore the need to change. Selfish, self-centered people.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nMany people believe, but those who can really start changing won't.",
"https://imgflip.com/i/5s8dld",
"Short of making people believe it's so hopeless that they give up, isn't it in most people's best interest to make as many people as possible believe the situation is as bad as possible?",
"I love that people pretend to care about the environment, but lose their shit with the mildest inconvenience.\n\nSure, ending plastic straws won't save the world. But if you want a clean environment, plastic straws do need to go.\n\nNo wonder shit is fucked. People complain about fossil fuel subsidies, but I bet a huge number of them would be bitching if that was changed and gas prices went up. Even if it inceased just a bit.",
"I don’t believe they meant the language barrier I think they meant that everyone just simply agreed and had this “let’s do make a change” attitude.",
"The solution is simple - give lots of money to special interests and they'll save us! It's a simple plan, guys!",
"Aren't the dinosaurs to blame? Without them, we wouldn't have fossil fuel to begin with. /S",
"A carbon tax couldn't be further from live in darkness billions die scenario you describe. We can still be prosperous with a carbon tax. The change it makes is simple: if you do $1 of damage to the environment you must pay $1 to have it fixed. As long as you're offsetting the damage you do, go crazy and burn as much carbon as you want.",
"There are plently of citizens who are just fine with subsidizing the fossil fuel industry.",
"\"Elections have consequences\" \n\n-The man who has done the most to destroy our democracy.\n\nThough that's not to say voting is sufficient anymore, it is in the bare minimum one can do.",
"I actually think it's a Utahraptor. Velociraptors were about 3 feet tall.",
"That wasn't even close to the point.",
"Thanks 👍",
"Makes sense.... Ya know, because, lizard people!",
"I've seen most of the population take more taxes for a fairer society. And I'm not saying everyone should give up vacations. Highly emitting cruise ship vacations subsidized by everyone in the world? Not the only way to have vacations. You can have hydrogen cruises, the technology is being implemented as we speak. Sorry if I don't shed a tear for the poor first worlders that will have to go to the beach or the mountain instead of taking a cruise. There's a reason the US is the biggest responsible for climate change, and it is this insane individualist narrative.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nCarbon taxes won't increase the price of most stuff significatively. Only the worst products will have over 2% increases in price according to my ongoing study (preliminary numbers). And if implemented as redistributive taxes, as most economists suggest, only the richest people will see a decrease in their spending power. Most people's would increase. It will just change the economic decisions. Would you pay more for the high emissions cruise? Or instead go for the considerably cheaper sustainable alternatives?",
"This^^",
"Read the next phrase...\n\n>The attendance waning, with a peak below the critical treshold.\n\nWaning attendance instead of rising momentum. Of course Covid didn't help. Bottomline, those in power knew they could weather it out, and so they did. It got weaker instead of stronger, proving them right.",
"I'm a simple person. I see a dinosaur give a speech I give a standing ovation.",
"Yea.... who is that though?",
"My point is that not following signing onto international agreements doesn't make you a pariah if you're the United States or any other country with the same amount of influence.",
"I get it. You want someone else to do something to save the planet. You can't be inconvenienced, but someone else has to be.",
"I stopped at, 'you just bounced back from a pandemic'.... This 'pandemic' has killed 0.2% of the population at the most in the places where it has been correctly measured.",
"Y’all need to think of it this way:\n\nI’d be very happy if all the Neo-Nazis in the world took their own lives, because they cause nothing but trouble. I’d be incredibly fucking happy if they did. Now, consider all the shit humanity as a collective has done. Think about it. The combined death toll and suffering caused by humankind makes Hitler’s genocide of 16+ million innocent people look like a fucking school shooting. Extinction? More like karma.",
"This is some meta within meta about Meta.",
"A strong majority of US citizens want universal healthcare, preschool and daycare credit, student loan forgiveness, action on climate change, and many other things. The politicians, on both sides of the aisle, don’t care.",
"It's the corporations because they pay the politicians to enact the policies they favor. Hence they're the driver and government the vehicle.",
"No. The car is the government and the driver is corporation.",
"Don't you dare lump me and my people into your petty Earth politics.",
"Lizard people.",
"Fun fact: This isn't CGI, this is what people at the UN look like.",
"This comment thread is about the US. There's no contextually relevant \"the rest\" to ignore.\n\nYour logic: You can't just say \\[mass shooter\\] is guilty of something if you don't mention all the other \\[mass shooters\\]!!",
"Then I suppose she turned out to be untrustworthy after all.",
"Wrong \n\nhttps://skepticalscience.com/heading-into-new-little-ice-age.htm",
"It's always whataboutism.\n\nNevermind the fact that among international mass-shoters, the US is by far the most prolific.",
"Why is it always just about the humans? So many other species going extinct and they did nothing wrong. I care more about them",
"Birds ARE lizards, though.",
"M E T A\n\nE\n\nT\n\nA",
"“Surrender your flesh. We demand it.”",
"The current climate change is anthropogenic not natural",
"that’s Jack Black!",
"#This is a dual face coin,\nBecause yes we should control environmental hazards at all cost. \nBut stoping technology and development can also be leading us to extinction like the PhD. Dr.Velociraptor \nsaid an natural disaster event can always happen.",
"Everybody wants to complain about climate change yet no one wants to go with nuclear power, in short we’re doomed",
"Charlie! Take the phone to Mommy!",
"Which is sort of like saying that blaming government over the corporations is tantamount to sticking your head in the sand.",
"Jack black?",
"How can I cash in on my “hey let’s stop being racist to Chinese people because you don’t like their government” talk? I feel like I really ought to be paid for this free service I’m providing",
"Climate change=Meteor propaganda?",
"This was a terrible idea",
"Sure it's a fact that things have gotten worse politically. But [apathy](https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/11/03/in-past-elections-u-s-trailed-most-developed-countries-in-voter-turnout/) is THE biggest uncomfortable fact of how we got here. If everyone voted in all elections, not just every four years, then the U.S. would more closely follow what the public actually favors. This is a fact, This is reality.",
"I mean if you read the book it's practically about how we are killing ourselves by not having control or responsibility for what we do and create.",
"Children, aka the future.",
"Damn, I've been doing it for free this whole time.",
"I wonder how many billionaires sit on the UN council. Strip mining the earth of its riches and then make some stupid commercial about how its your fault, the lower classes.",
"Correct, because the US has acted as a global police force for damn near a century now and has, generally, acted in the best interests of the Western Nations. This very unusual and unfounded “America is a Global Evil” is just not a position that s rational person can sit there and argue from. The US is able to bend the rules because it stands for and represents the interests a Western World which stands for a free society. China does not have this same standing in global politics because of the fact that it is seen as an aggressive state which supports nations like North Korea, is in the act of committing a genocide, and is actively oppressing nations. Not to mention the whole Taiwan situation. The US is allowed to “break the rules” because it’s checking a global superpower which actively makes threats to invade a sovereign nation. \n\nAnd please don’t be so dumb as to compare that to the Middle East, which has a history far more complex and nuanced than I’m sure you’re willing to pay any mind to given what I’ve seen thus far.",
"I wish this is real, I'd pay to have a dinosaur unleashed at the congress and eat those motherfuckers like wolves in henhouse.",
">There are a variety of ways that we can draw a line for when a country becomes responsible for it's own emissions/output. You say that like there isn't.\n\nfair.\n\n>You're making my argument for me. If you want to apply a global standard for emissions, you have to have everyone agree. How do you convince a poor nation to do something that's more expensive? Especially when their counter argument can be \"you knew it was bad when you did it, why can't I do it?\"\n\nnot at all: the US industrial age was the late 1800s into the early 1900s at which point I promise you climate change was on nobody's mind lol. \n\n>I'm not sure what your argument is here.\n\nthe point was that there is no way to make a perfect system in which everyone will feel like their interests are met fairly, but with this issue it's bigger than that and it 'feeling fair' is a secondary goal at best\n\n>Again, I'm not arguing in favor of China's emissions, or any of the big offenders. This is irrelevant to what I said.\n\nit's not irrelevant, because these countries would actively be aligning themselves with the benefits of developing nations rather than the drawbacks of already developed ones. there is no world where the global leaders set a meaningful system for every major power until China gets on board so like it or not they are kind of the focal point for the whole issue.\n\n>okay so teenagers aren't toppling industries lol.\n\ni dont know why you are so fixated on this when it was obvious in my original comment that I was using the comparison facetiously to demonstrate that the west has no actual public opinion united front the way China does further than angry internet people. the entire point of the twitter teens was that it's a joke because they have no actual power.\n\n>It's just capitalism at work.\n\nyes it is, and is the same reason that the whole climate argument is a catch 22 because at best the people who actively strive to help it do so thinking they don't have to participate and at worst will be working actively against it for profit. you cant have a system that picks and chooses because nobody is impartial it has to be everybody.",
"to be fair it doesn't.",
"Jack Black Dinosaur.",
"They also like Jack Black… apparently",
"Unless the dinosaur is lovingly caressing a piece of coal with a semi under the table, it won't mean shit to the Aussie Prime Minister.",
"And yet we're the ones that already agrees with message. People that don't understand the message will see this and go, \"lol look it's a total fucking joke!\"",
"> I don't think we can do anything but to get informed and vote\n\nI'm more of the armed revolution type. We've been voting for years and it's gotten us nowhere.",
"“the consensus among economists”\n\nLinks to a report where a group surveyed 1100 people who had an article referencing in some way climate change or global warming that was published in a climate science journal, but only 365 responded. Then, only 75% of that responded favorably to a question asking if we should implement a market based solution at the regional or national level (which could include a carbon tax among other things), and 6% supported market based solutions at the state level.\n\nThere was no direct response about a carbon tax, merely a response that could encompass a carbon tax, and it was only 81% that responded that way from the third of all people selected that responded at all, who are supposed to represent not only all climate economists, but all economists?\n\nAnd don't forget “it's the smart thing to do” which links to a 99 study using data from the 90s that assumes economic trends will remain static and which only shows that their carbon tax model which hypothetically works is better than the model they put it up against which isn't even reflective of what the US does, er, did 20 years ago.",
"Is that... Shrek?",
"This reminds me of that Australian movie, and it's ending. Haunting, honestly.",
"> There's a reason the US is the biggest responsible for climate change\n\nI could’ve *sworn* their was another country far worse than the US when it comes to climate change..\n\nI think it started with a “C” maybe?\n\nCan’t seem to remember the name…\n\n..oh and speaking of that!\n\nAfter you miraculously manage to avoid any and all protests while *substantially* decreasing the quality of life for Americans..how do you propose to get a country like that on board with your plan?\n\nSeems like your plan would be all for nothing if you can’t get the worlds largest polluter on board, yes?\n\nThis is a silly discussion of course..but I am enjoying entertaining it.",
"Are you all the corporations?",
"Flashbacks of the Jurassic Park 3 dream sequence",
"\"...and everybody clapped.\"",
"If you give the UN supremacy over the security consoles individual governments the UN will just be dissolved and replaced with something that doesn't do that",
"Just to be clear: climate change is bad for us, for humans. The planet will be fine, the planet has seen worse. Mercury is close to the Sun and that planet is just fine there. We need to change for ourselves.",
"The message is for governments to stop subsidizing fossil fuels. How is that guilt tripping average people?",
"If we had 52 Dems instead of 50 (assuming they weren't more Manchin/Sinemas) we could pass the bill as is, plus bigger bills in the future.",
"I’m going to stop driving my 1967 Cadillac Eldorado convertible with hot pink with whale skin hubcaps and all leather cow interior and big brown baby seal eyes for head lights because of this commercial.",
"I don't think this message will sink in to the heads of world leaders.",
"Couldn’t they have picked a more suitable voice actor for this? I mean, I’m not asking for Morgan Freeman here (sadly; yes sadly, he can’t narrate everything and make it work) but at least someone with some more gusto… someone with a Marlboro Red-coarseness with a dash of Old Milwaukee’s Best-raspiness along with some well-placed pausing… where’s Redd Pepper when you need him!?",
"So if subsidizing fossil fuels is \"choosing extinction\" wouldn't the best way to reinvest those funds be to start subsidizing green energy instead?",
"New Zealand? The Netherlands? Vietnam? Idk",
"Welp, I found the dumbest fucking comment in this thread. Guess I can go to bed now.",
"Ahh yes, the people in power who are profiting off of industries that catapult us towards extinction are gonna have a big change of heart after seeing this.",
"So the UN ***IS*** capable of more than a strongly worded letter and a furrowed brow! Now they can do it with cgi dinosaurs!",
"Every company in the world, at the end of the supply chain, is reliant on consumers for it's business. So actually consumers have the power to affect every aspect of this, you can also vote as well and influence and educate others, get informed and contact your government representatives.",
"You realize this is the UN and not the US Congress, right? Lmao",
"That’s about as disingenuous of an analogy you could come up with. The comment stated that the U.S. was an international pariah. That’s like saying one party is extra guilty of committing the same crimes as the rest.\n\nI’m not saying the rest committing the crime suddenly makes the single party less guilty, just that it is deceptive to condemn one and ignore the others. There’s a lot of stupid shit said about the U.S. in the echo chamber of Reddit. I just want people to be logically consistent, and not display such blatant hypocrisy.",
"Absolutely. In the US less Than 25% of the population said they were willing to pay $40 to fight climate change. in Other word, over 75% of people think $40 is too expensive to stop climate change.",
"[https://ourworldindata.org/contributed-most-global-co2](https://ourworldindata.org/contributed-most-global-co2)\n\nUS: 25% of cumulative historical emissions with 4% of the world population.\n\nChina: 13% with 18% of the world population.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nSo, how would redistributive carbon taxes substantially decrease quality of life of the average US citizen?\n\nAnd China is an exporter. You just tax their exports for their footprint. They will do the same for imports to protect themselves. Once you have the biggest markets, Europe and the US, taxing carbon emissions, China will do the same. Not that China is uninterested in carbon taxation, they are not set against it.",
"The leathery scales looked so realistic on those old shrivelled billionaires",
"Normal citizens hold all the decision making power. Every single company in the world is created to fulfill consumer demand, that includes energy companies.",
"Democrats have the slimmest possible majority in the senate. I wouldn't call that a strong majority.",
"It should have ended with the dinosaur casually biting off a random persons head. Then scared dude just puts up his hands like “oh well, he is a dinosaur” and everyone laughs cause we’re all doomed. The end.",
"Every large corporation, at the end of the supply chain, is created to fulfill consumer demand.",
"> back then it was all \"well we influence the world leaders of tomorrow\" but here we are a few decades later and the same decrepit politicians are in office soaking up tax money changing nothing\n\nI can date myself and say that when I was in school, people like Bush Sr. and Clinton were President. \n\nThe climate message of those days did impact me. I do care about the environment. I do vote for candidates I believe will keep things like climate action at the forefront of their policy.\n\nThe problem is, as recently as 6 years ago, we were talking about voting for (a) Clinton _again_. \n\nShit isn't going to change until these people are out of power, and they're not going to be out of power until they're dead of old age.",
"Okay then, I guess we should all just throw our hands up and do nothing",
">I think everybody on reddit and meme culture is pretty much in agreement of what climate change is about and what needs to be done.\n\nHeavy doubts, look at the reactions in the YouTube comments alone",
"Source ?",
"Have you met any?",
"This is the Pepsi commercial of PSAs.",
"And then they all clapped.",
"It really wanted me to see Norm voice a Dinosaur .",
"Yeah right. They’re just trying to normalize reptilians in global government before outing themselves",
"> stupid\n\nLike telling an organisation that doesn't make policies to make policy changes.",
"\"That's an anatomically inaccurate raptor. No feathers, no way I listen to you! Fake Raptor News! Climate change is a hoax!\"\n\n\\- some idiot",
">just that it is deceptive to condemn one and ignore the others\n\nIt's not deceptive, it's practical. What you're asking is not reasonable. I should be able to say chocolate ice cream is bad without having to also compare it against all the other ice creams I think are bad. I should be able to say the piece of shit who shot up Aurora, CO is bad without having to compare him against all the other pieces of shit who shot people up. This isn't Critical Analysis of Modern History 201. It's reddit.\n\nHow can you expect anyone to provide a detailed analysis of the full context?\n\n>I just want people to be logically consistent, and not display such blatant hypocrisy\n\nI get it, but there is not an atom of hypocrisy in anything I said here.",
"I think the term dinosaur was to reference the old fartness of the world leaders.",
"It's a straight up alarmist propaganda video",
"That’s not Allen. Steve! Steve!",
"I think we do. We need to get our politicians back in line. The're supposed to be there for the common good, not for themselves or holding on to wealth and power.",
"Read better.",
"Just because the power is real, does not mean the the rest of the nations like that the US flaunts it or abuses it. There is no contradiction between the power being real, and also being a pariah.",
"You could say it's been changing at a...*glacial*...pace.\n\n(☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞",
"Birds are basically reptiles, so...",
"Do birds count?\n\nActually, if we consider birds as dinosaurs, and we therefore consider parrots as dinosaurs, then I suppose you could say that some dinosaurs talk. \n\nThat's heavy.",
"Israel may have very well voted against it anyway (wouldn’t have mattered anyway since no veto power)\n\nIsrael and Cuba have some bad history.\n\nFrom Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba–Israel_relations Seems like things have always been up and down, but Cuba sending soldiers to fight against them is probably the big issue. Maybe it’ll get better one day, who knows.\n\n> Since the establishment of Israel, relations between Cuba and Israel have been turbulent. In 1919, Cuba supported the idea of independence of the Jewish people and condemned the extermination of Jews by the Third Reich in 1942.[2] On 29 November 1947, Cuba was the only country in the Americas to vote against the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine which led to the founding of Israel.[3] Despite the vote, Cuba recognized Israel and both nations established diplomatic relations in 1949.[4] In 1952, Israel opened an honorary consulate in Havana and upgraded the consulate to a diplomatic legation in 1954. Cuba opened a diplomatic office in Israel in 1957.[5]\n\n>In January 1959, Fidel Castro came into power and became Prime Minister of Cuba. In 1961, Prime Minister Castro appointed Ricardo Wolf as ambassador to Israel.[5] During the 1960s, Prime Minister Castro began to develop close alliances with Arab nations. After the Six-Day War in June 1967, Cuba and Romania were the only socialist countries to not break diplomatic ties with Israel.[6] Between 1967 and 1970, Cuba sent military assistance to Egypt during the War of Attrition to help the nation take the Sinai Peninsula which was occupied by Israeli troops after the Six-Day War.[5]\n\n>In September 1973, during a summit of the Non-Aligned Movement being held in Algeria, Cuba announced during the summit p that they would break diplomatic relations with Israel.[6] In October 1973, Cuba assisted Egypt and Syria in the Yom Kippur War against Israel by sending troops and equipment to Syria.[7] After the war, relations between Cuba and Israel were non-existent. Israel and the United States were the only other nation since 1992 to vote for the embargo against Cuba.[5]\n\n> In December 1991, the Dissolution of the Soviet Union occurred which severely affected the Cuban regime economically. Cuba's foreign policy changed dramatically with the nation no longer sending military aid and troops to other nations and the regime stopped supporting state terrorism.[8] In 1992, Israeli companies began operating in Cuba led by former Israeli Minister Raffi Eitan.[9][1] Israeli tourists also started to visit the island nation.\n\n>In 1994, during the inauguration of Nelson Mandela as President of South Africa, President Castro met with Israeli President Ezer Weizman.[10] Between 1995 and 1999, Castro allowed 400 Cuban Jews to immigrate to Israel with the assistance of the Canadian government known as Operation Cigar.[11] In 1996, during the funeral of former French President François Mitterrand, President Castro met and spoke with Israeli Minister Shimon Peres.[5] In 2000, President Castro and Prime Minister Ehud Barak met at the Millennium Summit in New York.[5]\n\n>In September 2010, while speaking with American journalist Jeffrey Goldberg, Fidel Castro announced that he believed that Israel has a right to exist as a Jewish state and denounced Holocaust deniers.[12] Castro also expressed concern with regards to Iran’s nuclear ambition. After Castro's remarks, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu praised Castro for his statements.[5] There has been talk of re-establishment of diplomatic relations between both nations, however, no major steps have been taken.[13]",
"OP clarified that it was, in fact, the point.",
"I mean the citizens of the world mostly agree on this. \n\nIt’s the world leaders and billionaires of industry who pay those leaders to do nothing who need to change.",
"Climate change partially manifests in the form of starvation, particularly so in developing nations",
"> plastics\n\nWhat do plastics have to do with carbon emissions?",
"Stop spreading FUD. If it’s not your field, then shut up about it.",
"Get up and force their hands? If people 150 years ago or so just said \"I mean sure it sucks that we don't have freedom, that my 12 year old kid has to work 12 hours a day in the factory and that we don't have enough food, but what am I supposed to do? The king is the rightful representative of god and the boss owns the company, I don't have a say in any of it.\"\n\nDo you think kings in Europe just gave up their power? Do you think things like safety regulations, the weekend or the 8 hour work day were just given to us by generous bosses? No of course not, people had to fight for every inch of this. And this was during a time were everyday people had almost 0 power and 0 rights. People joined unions and organizations that represented their interests, united and worked together to force the powerful to act differently. And this was during a time were unions were illegal and faced violent consequences.\n\nSimilar groups already exist for climate issues, it's just a matter of time until they are big enough to put on pressure.",
"How are you going to feed the entire planet without the use of fossil fuels?",
"I read the whole thing, but I don't really have time to argue about it all. Happy to talk about carbon taxes though. Have a nice night.",
"Sorry, my experience and knowledge of US history and actions completely contradicts you, so we just have absolutely 0 common ground of knowledge to work from. I can't see how this conversation could go anywhere. \n\nEven if I were to accept that the US acts in the interest of western nations (which, my understanding of history tells me it does not), then comes the next question: does acting in the interest of those nations actually benefit the people of those nations? The answer, seems to be no. The only people that are really benefitted by US actions are a small elite class, the rest of the US population, for example, has only seen decline in the past 50 years; the past 50 years that has seen the US become the most powerful nation-state in the world. But this is nothing new: the empire feeds off the republic. The Romans knew this, and it applies to the US as well. The imperial ambitions of the US are detrimental to its population at large, this is clearly documented. The next point to make would be, why is it that only so called \"western nations\" are allowed to have a world police that breaks all the rules? Why are the rest of the nations interests somehow less important? Well, they aren't, the power structure just happens to be the way it is; that does not justify its existence, and it would not justify the opposite.\n\nSo, I think you're wrong on almost every count, and in multiple conflating ways, and I think any search into the public record would show this.",
"Has anyone tried drinking a frappe through a paper straw? It fucking sucks!",
"You are now being sued by fuckerberg for copyright infringement.",
"How much cash did the UN blow on this waste of time?",
"Asteroid 2024",
"Jack Black, he's so cool.",
"While I agree apathy is the wrong direction, we are required by law to vote here in Australia and we still have fossil fuel loving, religious happy clappers in power, likely due to propaganda from Murdoch who is so entrenched in so much of our media.",
"Side note: if the dinosaur is there talking are they really extinct?",
"A strong majority of US citizens also don't want to pay higher taxes or higher prices on goods, which are necessary for these programs to really work.\n\nSo how do you reconcile that?\n\nThe question of \"do you want this\" is very different from the question of \"do you want this at this price\". \n\nAnd no, just taxing rich people more isn't gonna pay for everything. If you seized the entire wealth of all the billionaires in the US, that amount will sustain the federal government for something like 9 months. Collective effort and sacrifice is needed.",
"Yeah you know what, tomorrow I'll stop the deforestation of the Amazon rainforest.",
"Sorry to break your dreams about this city sized country, government has an amazing grasp on information, not parties as the rest of the world, that means internal and external public perception is tightly controlled. It’s a direct democracy where your vote is usually defined by keeping your job, and usually your job is in a business that’s focused on building loopholes to evade taxes on the rest of the planet, clean money or build excuses to sell unethical raw materials (like extracted by slave kids and such), the government even puts explicit suggestions on what to vote on the slips, just in case. it’s not a accident Kim Jong Un has spent his pre-dictatorship life there, because in some ways they are pretty similar, your dream country has a massive propaganda machine in place to make them look like the best country in the world with the happiest people (with the highest suicide rates, massive drug abuse and that look depressed and stressed on the streets never looking in front of them), the more you go on this rabbit hole and the more you’ll see that’s the country sized equivalent of Some big bad billionaire “philanthropist”. Source: I am one of them, and I really love the country, and for that reason I think it needs a good shower on reality and wake up.",
"Most influential countries* most countries definitely aren't democracies, or at least not fair democracies.",
"90% of his comment is about Cuba, so it wasn't a very good example because it overshadowed whatever the main point was supposed to be. Any evidence the veto power of the 5 has stopped meaningful climate change initiatives?",
"Okay pal calm down with insults.",
"The poor. The rich do love to moralise about how other people should use their rescources.",
">I don't think we can do anything but to get informed and vote.\n\nYou have to be shitting me. Yes, of course you can do something except voting. In fact, we need to do more than voting. Sure, take 1 day every 4 years to vote, great, but that won't be enough.\n\nWhen people weren't allowed to vote back in the day, do you think they just said \"yes lord\" all day long? I'm sure many did, but if everyone did that, we would still be ruled by kings and our kids would be working 12 hour shifts in the coal mines.\n\nJoin organizations, unite with others and then apply pressure to the people who claim to be your representative into either actually being your representative, or else get them out of power. This has always been one of the few things that effectively changes things. If you think the only option is to trust in our leaders and hope for the best, we might as well just give up.",
"Fuck your tax dollars, you're spending your free time doing THIS",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq2nWUtQ5G8",
"I think there was one raptor That size but I forget what it’s called and allosaurus was slightly bigger than that",
"There's gonna be a lot of war and famine for sure.",
"Pretty sure the commercial was made for humans and not the planet.",
"Also most toys are plastic",
"[Dr. Grant!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocGfGtutmsE)",
"You still missed the point. Just because op clarified regarding speaking English doesn't mean you didn't. \n\nThe first thing OP stated was that the dinosaur speaking wasn't the issue. \n\nOp's point was regarding everyone at the UN actually agreeing on something. \n\nWelcome to the point, try not to miss it, again.",
"I'm a mid-20s centrist and I hated it",
"Yeah even it’s proportions are weird it’s crazy how even though we know so much about dinosaurs dinosaurs and media still Looks like how we thought dinosaurs look like in the 80s it is stupid",
"Then what does the UN do to prevent that? Nothing. The only thing that stops such an irrational actor is... the threat of nukes being used on them. Mutually assured destruction isn't necessarily a long-term solution, but it has worked for about 70 years, so I'm not sure it should be dismissed out of hand. It does seem like it has done a lot more to prevent nuclear war than the UN...",
"Look up the word 'extinction'. There is no restart.",
"Crony capitalism is just capitalism. There is no non-crony capitalism. To save the world and ourselves we need to *abandon* capitalism.",
"Most people who work in the un or anything somewhat related to politics is untrustworthy",
"Mark Zuckerberg?",
"You know people in power have kids right?",
"> We should stop fooling with the weather and actively changing the climate to understand our real impact on climate before we force the entire world to live in darkness and have electricity 4 hours/day like we live in Africa.\n\nWhat the fuck are you talking about lmao. There are several highly developed countries using mostly renewable or nuclear energy (like Scotland and France). If anything, the research that goes into making them viable will (and already has) further scientific development. You should cut down on your oil industry propaganda consumption.\n\n>Carbon Dioxide is plant food.\n\nAnd climate change is horrible for agriculture. This is not the gotcha you think it is.\n\nAnd what's your source for blaming climate change on rain enhancement and similar techniques? Or is that just baseless speculation to deflect blame from the much more likely, widely documented cause?",
"You can vote.",
">but the fact that at the end of its speech, everyone in attendance seemed to agree and stand to applaud.\n\nNo, that's very realistic, politicians love to clap and agree with speeches like this. It's also very realistic that the video just ends and then nothing happens..",
"Republicans obviously",
"Typing 3 words is foaming at the mouth?",
"Yeah, not sure what their deal was. Maybe they were having a bad day or something - you never know about these things. I genuinely wish them well. \n\nTo answer their question of why I even bothered getting back to them; I regard the participation of civil discourse to be of outmost importance, online or otherwise, and have no problem taking a couple of minutes out of my day to uphold its integrity, especially when its utility is questioned. \n\nThank you for time, my friend. Take care!",
"> that would effectively solve the problem immediately and we could even continue use of fossil fuels, no?\n\nYou've built a perpetual energy machine friend. To look at it from another perspective, we need to unburn all the fossil fuels we've burnt over the last 100 years plus probably at extra 50% at least to account for inefficiencies in unburning.\n\nBut yeah, if tonight we stopped burning fossil fuels and used all our renewable energy toward carbon capture we'd be pretty good. Unfortunately we would no longer have electricity and billions of people would begin dying of starvation.",
"All the extra green taxes added mindlessly and suddenly on different types of fuels in europe already create a lot of poverty and death. Gj",
"Point is, for their first film and most people’s first jump into 3d animation, they chose a project about toys because their texture is easy to animate. Their first movie wasn’t about a mouse who wants to be a chief",
"You demand I become amish through the keys of a computer. Anyone who cares to prevent climate change must throw their lives away, but god forbid we touch a precious coal plant.\n\nI am not the one guilty of hypocrisy.",
"> The only possible \"vote\" that might mean anything is voting with your dollar.\n\nYou can understand that your political vote is meaningless because there are no good options to vote for, little accountability, and most people are actually quite disenfranchised. All of those things apply to the \"vote with your wallet\" argument as well. Almost any economic activity is going to generate emissions, there is little to no transparency or accountability to those emissions, and most people do not have much freedom over how to cast their wallet votes.",
"I love when disgustingly rich celebrities tell poor people they are the problem.",
"What did you just see, Lisa?\n\nBut it-\n\nWhat did you *just* see?",
"They said strong majority of US citizens, not US senators. Huge difference between what those 2 groups want, which was actually the point they were making.",
">Then what does the UN do to prevent that? Nothing.\n\nI wasn't arguing for the UN, I was disagreeing with the statement I quoted.\n\n>The only thing that stops such an irrational actor is... the threat of nukes being used on them.\n\nThe threat of nuclear destruction would stop a *rational* actor. It's great reasoning, but people act counter to reason. You know, irrational actors. One person acting counter to reason could cause a bunch of destruction.",
"Yeah, we'd all really appreciate if you could stop dumping thousands of gallons of oil in the ocean, cutting down valuable forests to replace them with palm oil trees, and leaving giant fishing nets all over the place. You, specifically, random Redditor.",
"How much power do you think the UN pr committee has?",
"they *know*. they just don't *care*.",
"Big gold dick and earths for balls at the end, nice.",
"Yes. *If* anything can be done via political process rather than revolution, it needs to be done by wresting control away from neoliberal moderates and replacing them with *real* progressives with *real* ethics.",
"Recycling? You mean the lie? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5735618",
"Overblown, we're heading for difficulties, but no where near extinction.",
"This was a good attempt, but ... it's been just a few days, and people have already forgotten about it. We are a weird species.",
"The guy I responded to made a comment about how everyone can understand English because of translators, both my comment and the OP's edit were about how dinosaurs can't talk in the first place. So...",
"\"Excuse me, sir. If your species is extinct, how are you here?\"\n\n\\*chomp\\*\n\n\"Next question.\"",
"1) I think you made that number up\n\n2) Switching to paper, metal, or no straws to put even only that much less plastic in the ocean is a complete no brainer. No one ever needs a plastic straw.",
"Wtf is the point? What can I do to stop climate change? I hate it but that doesn’t make anything stop",
"Far too big to be a velociraptor lol. Maybe a Deinonychus or a Utahraptor... velociraptors were tiny. But yes either way, should have feathers :p",
"The UN is one of the biggest jokes which for some reason has respect. This is absurdly misguided and moronic.",
">We don’t have any power over that. \n\nCollectively we do have unlimited power.",
"true, apologies",
"Look up the word “evolution”, after a few billion years there’s //potential// for a restart\n\nEdit: just did the math, humanity would have roughly 1.5-2.5 billion years left (before the fucking sun explodes) to do whatever they want if we just ended it all right now.",
"That's what they WANT you to think. It you do your research then you know that would be clearly impossible since [birds aren't real](http://reddit.com/r/birdsarentreal).",
"People would walk out in the first 30 seconds because nobody likes hearing about other people's dreams.",
"The best part, the deniers I know are the same people who believe dinosaurs are a myth. Should've had Jack Black voice a rhino or a dodo bird or something.",
"Who is “they”?",
"And the name of the black and white birds on the south pole means \"Penguin\", but they are not at all related to penguins.",
"US citizens own the majority of US debt",
"https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/news-plastic-drinking-straw-history-ban\n\nIt is indeed a real number.\n\n>No one ever needs a plastic straw.\n\nThis isn't a real argument. No one needs anything, but people don't need to justify having things.",
"Funnily enough I just saw [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/qhqzw4/i_think_myanmar_and_several_african_citizens_can/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) earlier today on reddit.",
"A V A L A N C H E",
"Some people just don't expect any objections to their hardline statements, and take any kind of objection or question offensively - instead of seeing an opportunity to discuss opposing viewpoints in a civil manner.\n\nI much prefer to thoroughly discuss and address all raised points, and don't interpret disagreement as aggression. Reddit used to be a place for that, about 10 years ago. But now, since the digg and Tumblr exodus, any attempt at meaningful discussion just results in The Reddit Argument. So tiring!\n\nHave a great day :)",
"> Most normal citizens don't want to continue subsidizing oil, but we don't hold any decision making power.\n\n1. Normal people hold all the power.\n\n2. Rise the price of fuel, and see if your first statement was correct...",
"Like I said, it's not hyperbole. No other nation on earth has the same track record of international destruction, oppression and carelessness. That's just a fact, and an easily verifiable one for you to look into yourself. Am I claiming that no other country could ever overtake the US? not at all. It's just that at this point in time, the US is in a league of its own.",
"So the UN made a PSA where a dinosaur talks to them? Ok then.",
"A mouse turned into Master Chief? I missed that one, but it sounds tight.",
"The most productive thing the united nations has ever done 😂😂😂",
"cringe",
"Oh yeah? While driving on his own private roads to get there huh",
"No.",
"People *do* need to justify having things when it is destructive to the environment to have them.",
"pay $40 or watch Denmark go underwater?\n\nbye bye Denmark.",
"Ah, a strongly worded video.",
"There's plenty of arabic people that don't torture and murder journalists, however it would seem that the arabic leaders do enjoy torturing and murdering journalists.",
"Oh, those idiots ?\n\nSo that means we will be extinct soon",
">literally translates into ~~big~~ terrible lizard.\n\n\nIt's Greek:\n\nDeinos - terrible\n\nSauros - lizard",
"[In February 2021, it was revealed that the New Zealand Air Force with the approval from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs had been silently assisting Saudi Arabian Navy in the Yemen Civil War. Military equipment to Saudi Arabia was also exported in 2016 and 2018.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Defence_Force)",
"Kind of.. weird. Like, I support the message, but no one seeing this video is really in a position to make these kinds of changes. \n\nKind of hollow. Which again feels weird because I support the message of the video. Ugh.",
"**[New Zealand Defence Force](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Defence_Force)** \n \n >The New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF; Māori: Te Ope Kātua o Aotearoa, lit. \"Line of Defence of New Zealand\") consists of three services: the Royal New Zealand Navy, the New Zealand Army and the Royal New Zealand Air Force; and is commanded and headed by the chief of Defence Force (CDF). New Zealand's armed forces have three defence-policy objectives: to defend New Zealand against low-level threats to contribute to regional security to play a part in global security effortsNew Zealand regards its own national defence needs as modest, due to its geographical isolation and friendly relationships with neighbours.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)",
"If Wall-E didn't work, nothing will.",
"Are they really though? Here in Pennsylvania Republicans thought it'd be a good idea to pay state police with gas tax, who patrol areas that can't afford their own police coverage. But I'm not over here crying about it.\n\nDo you have a bank account for every single item you plan on purchasing?....or does it make sense to just throw it all in one account and pay what is necessary as necessary?",
"They going to do anything about the murders they committed",
"The United Nations can go fuck themselves.",
"Okay, but this is reaching the public, we need to be reaching our politicians and congressmen, people of power and in charge of law and legislation. This is just preaching to the choir. \n\nThe only other option is gathering in mass and marching to their doorstep and demanding change or else.",
"Joking aside, this is guaranteed to trigger some qAnon nut jobs to kick off about lizard people… and that it’s a targeted secret message. Or some other bizarre interpretation of the facts to fit their twisted reality game.\nI think it’s a bit crap given the budget. They should have either made it funnier so that it went more viral, or more scary. It kinda sits awkwardly somewhere in between.",
"So they can cringe to death?",
"What’s up with the voice?",
"The person you responded to missed the point, then you responded by missing it as well. Ops edit reinforces that it isn't about the dinosaur speaking English or not, it was regarding the UN unanimously agreeing on anything. If you can't comprehend that even after I've explained it to you, I don't know what to tell you.\n\nThey are literally saying \"the most unbelievable part isn't that a dinosaur is talking, it's that the UN would all agree on anything.\"",
"I need to take care of old people, and poor parents with children, and the global environment. I may not use any of those directly, but I'll definitely be affected if no one takes care of them.",
"I vote we rename dinosaurs geriaviars",
"*Awgument scawee, weading is too hawd fow my wittle bwain!*",
"Reddit is full of angry and impotent communists who will take any and every opportunity to whine about the US, the Democrats, and Israel, while extolling the virtues of various authoritarian socialist regimes.\n\nThis comment was practically a bingo lmao",
"Hahaha...because you know....dinosaurs restarted. Here's to looking forward to Human 2.0",
"No, in all cases you need to justify why people can't have something. The burden of proof is on you to prove something is harmful.",
"Lots has changed. A lot of bad, and a lot of good. But all of it is a result of elections. Iraq happens because of an election. Etc etc. It’s not a scam. But winning barely a majority(which we don’t even really have) and expecting massive results is naive. The only way massive legislation can pass is if there’s states like Texas going blue etc. that’s gonna take some major momentum in terms of voting efforts etc.",
"OP's edit literally only refers to dinosaurs talking and has nothing to do with the UN agreeing. Are we talking about the same comment?",
"They change how the dinosaurs died on a bi-yearly basis.\n\nEventually they will decide white diesel car drivers did it.",
"Also it was the size of a turkey.",
"99.99% of all species that ever existed are extinct. \n\n\nJust to give this some perspective. \n\n\nNone of them 'chose' it. Espc not the dinos",
"Ah must have been Mark Zuckerburg speaking.",
"Only if you assume people never find out that it was a lie.\n\nLook what governments did when there was a mask shortage and what it caused.",
"The ambassador from Isla Sorna finally does their job.",
"You know unemployed people must exist right? Like if every single person was employed then employees would have more power than employers and capitalism would implode. So not everyone would be able to afford to take care of their children or themselves.",
"We aren't only talking about the edit. I edited my previous post for clarity. \n\nWe are discussing op's point of the entire post, which is clarified in their edit.",
"The justification for not having it is that it is destructive to the environment. You already knew that, but you're being intentionally obtuse.",
"This was cool, it’s not gonna change anything but it was a nice sentiment.",
"I don't remember personally seeing one that predicted doomsday within less than a decade. I think I've seen a few predicting it in 20-30 years, but not 10.",
"I'm specifically talking about soft power",
"I desperately need to see this become a show of some kind.",
"What they need is to become Vlad Tepes’s lawn ornaments. Then the ones left can figure out whether they want to join the gnomes and flamingoes too.",
"But .. medical emergencies? Orphaned children? Old-timers swindled out of their savings?\n \nI imagine you might say: that's what charities are for. Well I agree. Our government is just people getting together, using our collective wealth to help people in need, like a charity would. The \"community projects\" it carries out don't work too well with unpredictable funding, so yes, we need to donate consistently (taxes). But that's really all it is.",
">Going extinct is inevitable. 95% of the species that have ever lived are extinct. How many kids could this PSA's budget have fed?\n\nThis is an unbelievably stupid comment. \n\nDying is inevitable. 94% of all humans that have ever lived have died. So I will conclude that taking any actions to try and live are pointless...",
"Why….Human person Ted Cruz, of course!",
"People voted from among the options they were given, and most win by default, not the actual will of the people.",
"Jack black was a great choice.",
"IT IS!",
"Wow is this the trailer for Jurassic world 3?",
"Me",
"It means terrible lizard, which I guess is accurate, they are terrible at being lizards.",
"\"what made you change you're approach and lifestyle to support a more green initiative?\"\n\n\"a talking dinosaur\"",
"I don't see why the distinction should be made, and I don't see why making it changes my point?",
"This is the cringiest piece of propaganda ever produced",
">The problem is, as recently as 6 years ago, we were talking about voting for (a) Clinton \n> \n>again\n\nThat is a problem. However, a much much bigger problem is that we DID vote for a Clinton again, but instead got Trump.\n\nalthough we, as a people, actually did vote in Clinton in 2016, just like we voted in gore in 2000, it's just that the system is rigged by the electoral college to be against the will of the majority of the people who cast their votes.\n\nand that isn't even starting the conversation about gerrymandering at the state/local levels\n\nfor too many decades america has been held hostage by the vocal minority that rigs the system, undemocratically, in their favor.",
"How on earth can you argue that making it rain with cloud seeding and lasers and electromagnetism is not influencing climate? And when almost every state and almost every country has their own significant weather manipulation programs, how does this not influence “climate”? Climate is the summation of local weather events. And if the weather is constantly being manipulated, isn’t that profoundly changing the climate?\n\nDid you not notice the shift in language from “global warming” to “climate change” and “climate emergency” because it’s about to get cooler and they don’t want to get caught looking like fools again?\n\nIf there is a set amount of water vapor in the clouds and it all drops in one place because of the weather manipulation, what happens to the next place that the clouds were supposed to go? Does that area receive increasingly severe droughts? Has an increase in the number of localized droughts and localized flooding been happening? It used to rain every afternoon in Colorado. Now they only get huge storms every few weeks. Does this explain the world we see?\n\nIs it really possible to evaluate the passive effects of humans on the changing climate in a vacuum? Is it scientifically honest to cut out the past 400 years of CO2 increase and fearmonger about “highest in human history” when our planet supported megaflora and megafauna with dramatically higher levels?\n\nHere’s a more complete graph of CO2 and oxygen atmospheric concentration. Tell me about the industrial revolutions 175 million years ago and 250 million years ago that caused worldwide CO2 levels to spike. We don’t know a damn thing about our planet and what it is and and how it works and how the cycles of the sun influence out weather. A bunch of people who are paid to only give parts of the evidence that fit their narrative they are pid to research aren’t going to give us any answers.\n\nhttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/7340170_Land_plants_equilibrate_O2_and_CO2_concentrations_in_the_atmosphere\n\nAl Gore and some eggheads calculated that the polar ice caps would be gone by 2014.\n\nHere’s a “dire” UN report from 1989. These people are full of crap. Does that mean we shouldn’t take care of our home? Obviously not.\n\n“A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.\n\nCoastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP.\n\nHe said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control.”\nhttps://apnews.com/article/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0\n\nClimateviewer.org and Climateviewer.com have more data on the pervasive nature of climate manipulation.",
"Reminds me of how the TV show Dinosaurs ended with all of them freezing to death in an ice age. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9b9aoINXzk",
"Well, fuck.",
">lowest common denominator who will recognize the raptor from the tv \n\nPar for the course for such a pandering, reductionist, sensationalist video.\n\n>Just like stop destroying the planet bro! Instead give money to, like, africans and shit. Just don't go extinct bro!",
"The point of the UN and before it the league of nations was to control and limit great international wars like WWI and later WWII. \n\nThe reason for the UN Security Council are those nations (save the rotating nation) are capable of waging massive wars independently and as such could respond to a global vote with a massive war. \n\nSmaller countries could start a war but the security council or even regional powers could stop their aggression rather quickly. \n\nThat is why there is veto power.",
"This is some cringey shit.",
"This could be the Utah Raptor.",
"Perhaps the very concept of nations states as they exist today are inherently destructive and dangerous?",
"How meta.",
"That's not YouTube.",
"And this accomplishes, what, exactly?",
"Israel was a rotating member on the council.",
"I can't tell if you're joking but it's great.",
"Regular citizens not taking it seriously, who might then press their governments and vote for people who are actually doing something",
"If countries want to start wars though any kind of ‘agreement’ would just be thrown out the window right? I figured that’s kind of a pre-requisite to a good solid war",
"How are plastic straws destructive to the environment?",
"Jesus, if I could drop a cool $40 and be released from the sense of impending doom for me and my children…\n\nActually can we make it $20? I was planning on going to the movies…",
"This is so fucking stupid on many levels. If people ever bitch about conspiracy theorists perpetuating bullshit, this is exactly fucking why. As stupid as it is, they’re either doing it on purpose or are so out of touch with reality that it’s borders incompetence.",
"Boy, Greta Thunberg hasn’t aged well",
"Ah casinos, the paragons of morality.",
"The memeologists",
"I know lots of disabled and physically challenged people need to use straws to drink water. Metal straws are hard to use and clean.\n\nNot everyone can have options.",
"There could be any number of possible variations that just haven't made it into the fossil records.",
"We solved climate change guys! This video fixed it all!",
"In encompasses everyone who is against people getting informed and voting. It can be local politicians. It can be another government using bots to spam misinformation. It can be other voters who are just my team and spread lies. It can be a corporation using their power to spread lies and lobby the politicians and run propaganda in the name of profits. \n\nIt is just everyone or thing that is against this idea.",
"The richest Raptor survived and got a posting at the UN. Is this supposed to discourage our psychopath leaders to change course?",
"That's why protests need to be accompanied by riots",
"This is Sick they are literally Trolling us with this Nonsense",
"We're fucked.",
"I mean these are nice sentiments but there is almost literally nothing you or I or anyone else can really do to have any real effect on this outcome. Literal world leaders are trying to save us from this and are getting basically nowhere on the scale needed to save the world. Unless we start tarring and feathering the selfish rich in order for them to begrudgingly choose saving the earth over their own *immediate* demise, I am doubtful things will change.",
"The UN: ~~nuance~~",
"Lol all the projecting and blame-shifting in this thread is ridiculous.\n\nThe fossil fuel industry doesn't produce any carbon. The fossil fuel industry sells you carbon, and you burn it. Exxon didn't ask you to drive to the 7-11 to refill your slurpee.\n\nIf you want to cut carbon emissions, make a carbon tax. I voted for one! But alas, even in ultra-progressive WA, it failed. This is on the people, not the corps.",
"Is no one gonna mention the size of this thing? It's obviously supposed to look like a raptor from JP, but why did they make it so big?",
"Which is why the UN wants to the control the world.",
"I was just thinking that /r/conspiracy Is going to go nuts over this",
"No, having context on the person posting is helpful.",
"Well we're certainly not going to call them dino-ornis.",
"My favorite of the extinction scenarios in that wiki article is the underpopulation one. At some point we expect global population to fall as developing countries turn into developed countries. And then if you extrapolate the trend, at some point the population reaches 0. Because people don't want children. It's the funniest, silliest, most unexpected, preventable, uneventful, deflated scenario in light of all the devastating, doomsday scenarios you see in popular culture.",
"Okay here's the problem Democrats are 200,000% on board with this Republicans will not even acknowledge climate change is real we're skipping over the first issue. We either do away with right-wing propaganda or we suffer demise.",
"Wait, aren't human beings, like, at the *opposite* of extinction at 8 billion people? We should definitely save our climate, not for our own survival, but for that of other species.\n\nThe best way to do that is to reduce our population and stop being the dominant species on earth, at the risk of extinction.",
"Whatever nerds, just gimme back Ow My Balls! Stop intrupting my show.",
"The dinosaur in the video was supposed to be a Utahraptor, which is thought to have most likely had feathers.",
"Jablinskiraptor isn't real. It can't hurt you.",
"happy cakeday",
"“Sure”\n*laughs* *in* *Australian* *Government*",
"Alas, the issue lies with consumption culture. Yes the corps 100% fuel it, but we've created the demand.\n\nWere self destructing, and individuals are looking to point the finger at someone else, anyone else. Industrialization and consumption has destroyed the planet, bit its only done it to cater to us.",
"> blockade on Cuba \n\nThere is no such thing.",
"What context changes what I said? I didn't make any ideological statements. I just commented on that guy's comment. My beliefs or out of context posts have nothing to do with it.",
"What a time to be alive! Our own extinction being officially discussed at UN level.",
"damm, the new jurassic park looks sick",
"Not relevant, if there are unemployed people, which there HAS to be (regardless of anything any person does) for capitalism to function then there will be people who can't afford to take care of their children or themselves, right? How would an unemployed person pay for shelter, food, medicine, etc.?",
"Was that Jack Black???",
"It would have been hilarious if he just goes apeshit and eats everyone anyway",
"Lol ok keep thinking that",
"It's way too big even for a Utahraptor, they were only about 6 feet tall but this thing is towering over the people.",
"I mean, part of taxes goes to savings: Social Security and Medicare. And with group buying power that can be more efficiently handled. Why would no taxes mean cheaper medical care?\n \nHaven't you ever been swindled? If you did get conned, or screwed by a ruthless employer, unforeseen market shift, unexpected tragedy ... I'd want to help you out. So that's what I think taxes can help me do.\n \nMaybe you just want to live in a more \"mind your own business\" kind of society than I do. But life can be pretty unfair. I don't understand why it's a bad thing to plan to help each other out.",
"More like slapping us out of our existing indoctrination",
"Found myself hoping he'd jump down and eat someone at the end there. Just as an exclamation point",
"In a video about combating climate, they don't suggest the money from not subsidising fossil fuels be used instead to subsidise green energy to combat climate change. Well done UN.",
"You'll often find people in charge are thoroughly disconnected with common people, and their proposals make no sense because they don't understand how difficult life is, or how it works at a fundamental level when you don't have the abundance they have.",
"New movie is a sequel to the dinosaur based first movie confirmed",
"It shaved for a more professional appearance.",
"Last movie \"Koopa\" was a dinosaur as well as everything else. This is proof that the new movie is a sequel and the first movie is official canon",
"The dog was more nightmare fuel",
"UN is a forum which is currently trying to expand its power it is not a nation that controls everyone",
"No idiot, I'm making the point that small efforts of individuals - while individually statistically insignificant - add up to material impact.",
"We're so fucked.",
"Well you're definitely a cynic.",
"Na he probably isnt good looking as this guy right here.",
"Reddit: *If it doesnt perfectly fix everything right away, it’s worse than nothing.*",
"Well you know how to be a bummer, that's for sure",
"That doesn't look very scary. More like a six-foot turkey.",
"The common folks. They've been telling them for years that if they recycled 100% of bean cans, we'd be saved. And it's been working so far.",
"D:",
"On Reddit, for sure, but is this true in general?",
"exhibit A",
"Would've made more impact if he'd bitten the head of someone",
"He's joking about the typo. 'Chef' is the cook that stands in a kitchen. 'Chief' is a word that means 'boss' and a famous video game character is called 'Master Chief' from Halo.",
"What the fuck am I supposed to do? Use less plastic? Remember how hyped everyone was when most places decided on banning plastic straws, even though that only accounted for like 0.1% of all the ocean waste? \n\nBig oil is still trying to make us feel guilty and responsible.\n\nIf every single person on the planet stopped using plastic and stopped eating meat and fish, we‘d still be fucked.",
"Because the left wants to do something to solve climate change so the right instinctively has to do the exact opposite.",
"The UN realistically has very little power beyond being a vague authority figure.",
"Ah I missed that",
">\tif we reach extinction we deserve extinction.\n\nIMO we definitely deserve extinction whether or not we reach it. Human nature is a cesspool of greed, exploitation, and destruction.",
"I didn't claim someone has to do something. I didn't demand you do anything. I suggested that if you think something has to be done, then YOU do it. You claim man is making negative climate change, so do something about it. Not someone else - you do it.",
">for too many decades america has been held hostage by the vocal minority that rigs the system, undemocratically, in their favor...\n\n... And when that doesn't work they pass voter suppression laws; pass legislation that allows them to ignore certified votes at the state level to submit whatever they want in presidential races; and oh yeah, support a failed insurrection, the murder of federal police, & the attempted murder of congresspeople, senators, and their own Republican Vice President.",
"I think the world's climate problems could be solved with bullets.\n\nJust make sure they get delivered to the right Boardrooms.",
">and when that doesn't work they pass voter suppression law\n\nit's never not worked. it's already been working. they have been doing it for centuries, literally. literally literally.\n\nthe newer voter suppression laws are only in ADDITION to what they have already been doing for centuries.",
"Remember kids, if you can't defeat the argument, defeat the person. Its easier to make a person look bad than it is to present facts.\n\nAd hominem man, away.",
"Make a list of assholes for the dinosaur to eat. That will be much more effective than an inspirational speech.",
"* Well when you have people in power who think like my 70+ year old dad who's a Trumpian who when we're having conversations about Climate Change and he's basically like \"Fuck yours and the next generation I'll be dead so don't need to worry about it.\"",
"This is, obviously, fake. The velociraptor has no feathers.",
"Tomorrow, I'll put an end to the pollution of the oceans.",
"The choir.",
"This should have a lot more views than it currently does.",
"I feel strongly inspired by this!\n\nI will start by reducing the amount of plastics I buy. 2022 I will not use condoms and be going in raw.\n\nThanks UN.",
"This is so weird to watch. Like I think I’ve just become so desensitized to the reality of how far climate change has gotten with us just doing nothing. \n\nLike when I was a kid I never in a million years would think the UN would need to produce PSAs begging people to stop accelerating us towards extinction.",
"You live in a democracy? Vote for the parties and representatives that work to reduce global CO2 emissions in a permanent and realistic way.",
"If anyone, it's the younger generation that's going to save us, or themselves and their children. It's the sad truth. They're the ones who are going to need to mobilize en mass to put pressure on the powers that be- be that government officials or their parents to make better choices. They hold more power than they realize, they just have to take hold of it. That pressure may take time to make change, but it's still there.",
"I was referring specifically to the last presidential election which they lost despite every dirty trick in the book.\n\nThat was the catalyst for the latest round of voting and electoral college tomfoolery to work it's way through the regressive-controlled state legislatures.\n\nMany states can now look at certified votes for a president and go \"Nah, we'll give our delegates to the other guy\".\n\nThere were always issues with faithless delegates, but it's gotten so much worse since the last election.",
"Yes.",
"Vote if you want to but understand that it's mostly pointless as a means to effect change in any part of society. To suggest people need only vote and depend on change by proxy with our current representative democracy is frankly misleading.\n\nActual change is doing things yourself- concerned about the environment? Go spike trees en masse to disrupt logging, sabotage roads that service industrial mining operations, and research other ways to monkey wrench enterprises that rely on exploitation of the environment. \n\nSteel from your workplace, lie on your resume, fabricate paystubs so you can qualify for that wildly overpriced 500sqft studio apartment.\n\nUnderstand that nonviolent protests are ineffective and are ultimately beneficial to the state.\n\nThe list goes on, but the point is that options for positive change presented by the state are ultimately intended to placate concerned parties and preserve the existence of the state.",
"I can’t remember the last time I cringed this hard. Sheeeeesh.",
"You lost, get over it",
"Should have started with \"Listen up you f7ck nuts\" . Now do the one where the raptor wakes up Manchin in his bedroom.",
"No.",
"the billionaires and the jets they use",
"It's either Jack Black or Andy Richter, I can't tell.",
">\tA strong majority of US citizens also don't want to pay higher taxes or higher prices on goods, which are necessary for these programs to really work.\n\nNah. We could easily just tax the wealthiest Americans and get all that shit and much much much more.\n\n>\tAnd no, just taxing rich people more isn't gonna pay for everything. If you seized the entire wealth of all the billionaires in the US, that amount will sustain the federal government for something like 9 months. Collective effort and sacrifice is needed.\n\nThe other day, Musk made 36 billion dollars. Ending homelessness in America would cost 9 billion.\n\nWe can ABSOLUTELY afford things like universal healthcare and paternity/maternity leave and preschool vouchers by just taxing the rich. Other countries do ALL this stuff and MUCH more and they’re worker class isn’t taxed much if anything higher than ours.",
"> final straw product\n\nhttps://final.co/",
"I don't know that much about American politics besides what I read on here, so forgive me, but I thought those you describe are mostly policies promoted by a group of democrats, and, for instance, presidential elections are usually split pretty close to 50/50 in the popular vote. If we assume most republican voters wouldn't subscribe to these policies, and not all democratic voters would, I wouldn't be surprised if the public opinion is close to 50/50 on most of these as well.\n\nBut again, I'm probably completely wrong, just trying to understand.",
"yup. i've basically resigned to the fact that my young nieces and nephews (I'm not dumb enough to bring my own kids into this world) will live in a hellscape that i don't even want to think about.\n\ndogs and cats living together! mass hysteria!",
"Awesome. Pretty much confirms that we're screwed if this the level of effort they're putting in. F-",
"Strong majority of US citizens. There is a VERY tiny minority of Dem congresspeople who actually want any of that stuff.",
"It's a little weird that the UN paid for this add. Is anyone supposed to take them serious if they need this kind of stunt to be heard. The freaking UN!",
"\"I'm from Pangea! The ORIGINAL united nations!",
"welcome to the uncanny valley",
"Hurt isn’t the word I would use, which is why I didn’t use it.",
"That's still insane. All climate change predictions when giving temperature increase number they mean by the end of the century. Current estimate for \"buisness as usual\" temperature rise is 3.5C by 2100. Bad but not catastrophic.\n\nThere was really interesting paper about it how doomsday propaganda is counterproductive to fixing the issue. People hear \"we're going extinct\" and they just give up caring about the problem since it feels like we cannot do anything anyway.\n\nRealistic reporting is much more useful, it's much easier to get people and goverments support for \"let's improve what we can, it will still have some effect at least\" than \"we're all going to die\".",
"It’s going to take a bloody revolution from most major countries to do anything.\n\nVoting isn’t enough",
"Didn't the UN also just like last fucking week go out and say we should stop listening to alarmists?",
"Bunch of whining children in this thread. It's a great video. You're absolutely the target audience. The idea that you can't make a difference and it's all shit anyway is an idea that's supported by people **HEAVILY** invested in different kinds of carbon burning. \n\nIt's simple: Vote for parties that work for a realistic change in global CO2 emissions. How you feel about brown people, guns, lgbtq+, education and taxes are all valid concerns I'm sure, but they should be weighed against the inevitable loss of our entire habitat given no action is taken. \n\nEach time you make the \"but muh plastic straws\"-argument you convince yourself that there's nothing you can do, and when you voice it you convince others. You are shilling for free for the big oil companies and investors. Start shilling for the biosphere instead, at least that way there's a potential payout in the end.",
"Seems like it would spread well on social media, even on places like facebook where support is lower than reddit.",
"Other dinosaurs.",
"This dinosaur video is misinformation.\n\nThere are no scientific projections that predict climate change as an extinction event, especially from the UN IPCC.",
"The causality there goes the other way though. They made a movie about plastic toys *because* CGI of the time looked stiff and plasticy. You notice the same trend whenever a new rendering technology is developed. When they got effective volumetric water, we got Finding Nemo. When they had good short fiber simulation, we got a bunch of furry monsters in Monsters Inc. When they could handle effective hair, we got Tangled. Snow and ice refraction, we got Frozen, Fluid simulation, we got Moana. Etc. etc. etc.\n\nAnd of course every movie carries all the advancements of its predecessors—every film after Tangled has Tangled-level hair, every film after Moana has beautiful fluid simulation, etc. But the \"main theme\" of a the new movie is always on whatever fancy new thing they've just figured out how to render effectively, and you can basically predict the (visual) theme of upcoming pixar films by whatever new rendering tech just got demoed the year before they entered production.",
"Cheer up. At least Amazon is bringing back company towns again!\n\nSoon we'll all get our company scrip that we will use to trade for an ever-dwindling supply of rationed air and barely re-processed H2O inside our spacious 1.2 x 1.2 x 2.4 meter AmazonBasics Rest Hexagons... Until an algorithm decided we spent 0.00368 seconds too long voiding our bladders and we get re-assigned to mandatory organ re-distribution....",
"Glad you said it.\n\nAnd we wonder why there are so much anti-scientific bullshit pereating our societies. Stuff like this really does not help. Get your basic facts straight, and build your propaganda from there! \n\nAs a scientis, albeit in a different STEM field, I am all for the message, but the package is important!",
"He pointed one out. Are you going to ignore it?",
"But World leaders don't watch television or Iisten to reason! I think far more effective would be to tell the leaders that they should do something or they're not getting paid and also probably will get killed. Hey, I'd also like it work differently, but, as our world leaders have shown us all many times, people are more motivated by fear.",
"Yeah it would be Thoughtful but they did not INCLUDE THE DO DO BIRD as the RELIGIOUS NUTS that want AN EXTINTISON.",
"THAT'S WHY I LOVE IT.",
"Yep. Also, I think the prediction is now [down to 2.9 degrees](https://climateactiontracker.org/global/cat-thermometer/) (and that's assuming firmly planned but not yet implemented policies will be cancelled), because despite what doomers may say, there is actually *incredible* progress happening. People are just pissed that it didn't get completely fixed in the ~10 years or so since governments started to take it somewhat seriously (the Paris agreement wasn't even 6 years ago!)",
"And so it came to pass that the leaders of the world did absolutely fucking nothing. And humanity was doomed.",
"I'm sorry but I just do not buy this solution, and I do not buy that governments are at all serious about this.\n\nThe solution has existed for fucking decades. Nuclear. You want to tell me that this is a human caused ultra fucked in every orifice catastrophe and that costs $900 billion every year that we delay it? Take $900 billion for 1 year and build an entire infrastructure of new nuclear power plants. Nuclear is safe, basically as good as renewable, better in fact, and the waste problem is nothing near as bad as you think it is. 40 years of nuclear waste can easily be stored in a single room that you could safely walk around at the location of each nuclear power plant. Nuclear produces NO CO2, and NO POLLUTION. Pollution from power plants alone kills millions of people, and nuclear produces absolute ZERO. Think it's too costly? It's not me that's saying this is mega bukkake cataclysm for the entire human species. Surely any price is worthwhile. Not happy with uranium nuclear still? Develop thorium which is fundamentally safe and can't melt down like China is doing RIGHT NOW by the way. We could have done this like 6 decades ago.\n\nStill think it's too expensive? Do you have any idea how much money the US government just robbed the entire United States population of in 2020? They printed over $10 TRILLION in 2020. Trillion with a fucking T. That's $10,000 Billion. In a single year. Which by the way, is drastically fucking every single one of you and is the most insidious form of tax that you probably do not know about - but it's you that's paying for it.\n\nYou want to prevent climate change. Solve the single largest issue which is energy production and we will have gotten ourselves up to 73% of all CO2 produced globally and at the same time, erased the problem of energy security globally practically forever. Yeah there's teething problems with the areas you have to use a few fossil fuels but fuck me this solution is obvious. It was obvious to me nearly 20 years ago when I was a fucking teenager.\n\nI'm sick. To. Death.... of being told this is my responsibility. That it's the every day Joe's responsibility. That I have to take less holidays, don't fly, drive a greener car, think about my personal carbon footprint. Fuck. Off. \n\nThis is and always has been an issue of massive global industry, and technology, not of ordinary people who don't have the power to do shit. If you want to tell me this is a serious problem, then take fucking serious action and use solutions that have been here for god damn decades to solve it. Is there going to be public resistance? Educate them, don't give them soft fluffy bullshit feelgood answers like solar and wind which will never be able to fully solve the problem and certainly not in anything like the timescale we need to. Educate the public on why nuclear is actually safe, why we need it, and why this is worth it for the fucking millions of reasons that it actually is. \n\nI do not support carbon tax. Shove it up your arse and do something serious that will actually solve the problem rather than finding another way to take my fucking hard earned money which I have not nearly enough of, whilst basically telling me that I'm the problem.\n\nI apologize if this feels directed at you. It's more of a random shotgun blasting into the sky. I'm just so fed up of hearing about these shitty half measure solutions to climate change when we could have made multi billion dollar plans decades ago to completely renew the entire energy infrastructure and completely solve the biggest part of the problem whilst at the same time creating HUGE energy security. Every developed nation on earth should have done this decades ago.",
"If you visit the URL that they plug, they claim that \"Fossil fuel companies are too powerful for us to change\" is an \"unfair excuse\" and then suggest buying a children's book titled \"The Birds and the Bees\". \n\nDon't get me wrong, I support the cause. But is convincing children that there's a problem REALLY a reasonable way to \"change fossil fuel companies\"? Is it even necessary to make children's books about this? I'm pretty sure future generations will figure it out on their own (the moment they try to explore what's left of Nature).\n\nThis statement -- \"fossil fuel companies are too powerful for us to change\" -- is really important to address! It's why millions of people feel helpless. Is this really the United Nation's BEST plan? For us to all buy \"The Birds and the Bees\"?",
"Did you take it with you to properly drop it in an ocean? /s",
"They missed the chance of saying don't pump up our old bodies..:)",
"/r/yourjokebutworse",
"So the religious right , social conservatives, survivalist and name one are Saving All Humanity",
"Every euro country right now is experiencing a spike in energy prices, and governments are scrambling to find ways to subsidize the costs so the population won't be angry. \n\nPeople don't want climate change, but people also don't want high gasoline prices. Make it make sense.",
"Not sure why such a neutral comment would spark such outrage, but judging by the amount of exclamation marks, you find it insulting that QAnon nut jobs who think lizard people control the world, 5G causes covid, coronavirus is a bio weapon, and Bill Gates is trying to inject microchips into people. Y’know - the crazy end of the spectrum. It’s a mish mash of real conspiracies intertwined with the utter fantasy. That’s who I’m talking about. Unless you’re one of those, you have nothing to be offended about. \nI have absolutely no doubt that power systems have corruption inbuilt, the power is controlled by a small number of people and the rich control the world. But it’s always been like that. As far and I can make out, QAnon just splices together reality, conspiracy and fiction into an endless real world mystery solving RPG that hooks people - mainly because our primitive brains aren’t equipped to cope with the viral algorithms that drive outrage and panic responses. And people have too much time in their hands these days.",
"What? \n\n> this video absolutely targets the wrong people\n\n> politicians and lobbyists (corporations) are the ones that need their minds changed. They aren't sitting around watching these kinds of videos with readily changed priorities.\n\nThat is the entire point. For normal people to actually do something about it and change it. Such a clown take.",
"That’s the movie Mother with Jennifer Lawerence. Straight up a dream and nightmare sequence, in my mind.",
"Idiots I guess. The message is good but it's sort of cringe tbh",
"Burh, what, when, how did you learn about the UN and what does the Security Council mean to you. Also how do you feel about Woodrow Wilson\" askin for a Friend.\"",
"Wow a raptor and a Mormon",
"When the lizard people start coming out to address us, we know we’re screwed.",
"Inside job?",
"Yeah it is actually comical. \"I want to help the environment..... but not if it slightly inconveniences me\".",
"Why not just put the money for this ad into so.e program that would help",
"I bet all these clowns complaining about paper straws would be rightfully annoyed at someone just straight up littering despite its insignificant impact.",
"No. The idea is if the resolutions dealing with international security are palatable to all major countries with the largest armies and later nuclear arsenals then they will enforce the “peace through strength” on the rest of the countries. \n\nIf there was no veto country A could hide behind country BA4 and start a major war with a simple majority even though a majority of the military power opposed it. \n\nThink of the general assembly as the Senate (equal votes for everyone) and the security council as the House (representation based on size/power). \n\nYou need to pass through both houses to pass the resolution. It’s like military/security political federalism.",
"I'll go ahead and say no, no they are not. But every drop in the bucket counts so to speak. Be the change you want to see in the world.",
"They had feathers damn it!",
"And the CCL shill posts on /r/neoliberal so pick your poison",
"I really Hope Humans go extinct",
"I'm not sure fine is the right word. The planet will survive yes but humans are also creating a mass extinction event. There have only been 6 or so of these in the entire Earth's history. \nSo I wouldn't really consider what the planet is currently going through as fine.",
"Oh yes, capitalisms favorite solution to [serious problems](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcosc.2020.615419/full) - incremental, market-based change",
"Sources please!",
"Ah yes, i believe you are what is called a \"must be fun at parties\" guy.",
"Aaaand nothing will change",
"American voters just came out of a four year government who not only denied climate change but took *active* measures to increase it. Maybe you can start by not voting for that.",
"We were going for something different here, but I'll allow it.",
">information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.\n\nJust watering down words to less useful definitions is not how etymology or descriptive dictionaries work, quit being a nerd",
"Or people think $40 isn't going to make any difference. If you could guarantee that their $40 will definitely end climate change and that will probably go up to 80% approval.",
"There isn't money in saving the planet yet. There will be when it's too late, and that is when they might start doing something.",
"So a use tax you suggest? Only get taxed on the things you use?\n\nSo if I don't drive a car and buy gas I pay no tax toward fixing roads? What about when I use a bus or ride to work with someone else? I'm getting use out of it. \n\nWhat about a sidewalk? I'm only using the sidewalk from my house to the corner store. Should my taxes be used to put sidewalks on the rest of the street, neighborhood, borough? \n\nWhat if I choose to go somewhere else for a change? \n\nWhat about social security tax? Should I not be paying into this if I'm not using it? What about for when I need it? Oh it's a good thing I paid those taxes.",
"This is the dumbest video I have seen in a long time. No reasonable climate scientists predicts that humans will go extinct due to climate change.",
"This seems to be the complete opposite of what scientists are saying.\n\nI guess it all depends on which scientists you listen to.",
">Its now or never\n\nAnd they’ll choose the one that makes more money",
"I understand feeling like \"wtf am I gonna do\" but let's remember, the people in charge are there because we put them there, in the democracies around the world anyway. So we can do absolutely everything to combat climate change, starting with electing the people that are outspoken advocates for saving humanity, and not voting for people who don't give a fuck. If we keep voting for people who don't give a fuck then we're actively pushing against the movement to stop climate change man, and that's crazy. People have made governments do crazier things than start using renewable energy, I think if we're loud enough and use our votes we can do a whole lot about climate change.",
"I see nobody really responded to this, but you took time writing it and I appreciate it. I don't have have any stake or opinion on climate change, but this was an interesting read. Regardless of what anybody says there's a solid point in taking care of our home. At a minimum we need to stop polluting our air, oceans and food with chemicals, plastic and waste.",
"Unfortunately the UN also doesn’t have much power over politicians, so the best they can do is encourage us (the voters) to try and take some action.",
"Sorry I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to, but how could we ever know? As far as I can tell scientists aren't saying it's impossible, they're just saying it's unlikely. I don't know how we'd prove it was never on the cards before we reached a point where it wouldn't matter anyway.",
"You can shout, cry, elect someone different,... Nothing will change or with just small margins.\n\nWe will drive this earth into a wall, kill ourselves in the process and that's it. It won't happen overnight and a lot of people will suffer. At least when it's over in a few centuries this place we call earth will regenerate itself.",
"you know what an example is?",
"Based dinosaur.",
"You can vote for whoever this doesn't change the political lines by much. If you haven't realized that yet you probably haven't voted enough yet.",
"Let me guess, save the planet by paying more taxes and eating less meat, having no car and owning no property?\n\n&#x200B;\n\nWhile the elites of course don't have to do any of that and pay 0$ tax every year, but they fly to useless meetings funded by taxpayer money spent on private jets which are contributing more to pollution than 10 joe schmoe's do in one lifetime",
"We’ve come to the point where a CGI dinosaur has to tell to get ourselves together, I think that says a lot about our species.",
"Its funny how all of the 'climate change solutions' end up being an essay which always ends up being: \"Pay more money while the elites do nothing\"",
"Good boi",
"Answer me this: why would average people have to pay 40$ each every month for a problem they didn't really contribute to when it could be taken from the already vastly overblown paychecks of politicians who actually caused it?",
"Pure, unadultared cringe. Kinda ironic to be talking about wasting public funds...",
"I feel like this shouldn't be here",
"What you’re saying is mostly accurate. The population is split about 50/50 when it comes to the question of “Dem or Repub.” but the population is NOT split on many issues, including all the ones I listed. The Republicans just keep voting Repub even though the issues they want are solely part of the Dem platform (and not well supported by the Dems either).\n\nBut if you want proof:\n\n63% of Americans want Universal healthcare of some kind, including 34% of Republicans.\n\nhttps://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/09/29/increasing-share-of-americans-favor-a-single-government-program-to-provide-health-care-coverage/\n\n85% of Americans think paid personal medical leave should be universal, 82% say paid maternity leave should be universal, 69% say paid paternity leave should be universal, and 67% say paid family medical leave should be universal.\n\nhttps://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/03/23/americans-widely-support-paid-family-and-medical-leave-but-differ-over-specific-policies/\n\n54% of Americans and 68% of American parents say that child care should be universal:\n\nhttps://familystoryproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Family-Story-Childcare-Survey-Final.pdf\n\n58% of Americans support wiping out student debt AND making public college, university, and trade school universal, including 40% of Republicans:\n\nhttps://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/461106-majority-of-voters-support-free-college-eliminating-student-debt\n\nAnd 61% of Americans, including 32% of Republicans said the government should “do a great deal more” to deal with climate change.\n\nhttps://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1198a1Global-Warming.pdf\n\nSo yeah, all these policies have a majority support in America.",
"and when I already do that?",
"Oh please. It's already too late!\n\nAnd it's not the climate change that'a going to kick our ass. It's the lack of oil and the scarcity of food that's REALLY going to make us suffer. So in ten to twenty years we can look forward to not only rubberbanding between terrible storms and drought, but ALSO the aftershocks of that freak weather. Plants will die because of the snap in weather and animals will die as a result.\n\nOptimists like to pretend \"oh it's never too late. No sense giving up!\" But I'd love to hear from them when all this shit hits the fan in the coming decades when deserts grow and global ecosystems collapse. The global warming effects we're feeling now is a result of what we did in the 80s. We haven't even BEGUN to feel the results of what we're doing nowadays. This shit is hitting us like a tidal wave and we are NOT prepared.\n\nYou think the pandemic fucked things up? Just wait till everyone's scrambling to keep it together when the food that their food no longer exists.",
"We haven't had a world war for a while",
"Thank you for the summary.\n\nI'd gladly vote for a scientists party that would take actions based on rational thought for the future of the world.\n\nHowever it won't happen and any other party available don't have the wellbeing of most as their target. Hence we are fucked. The game is rigged I'm afraid. (Not to sound pessimistic)",
"Thank you for posting the numbers.",
"They were talking about harmful public fund uses, not wasteful.",
"Try in everyday life in actions and words to convince others to do likewise by whatever means you see fit.",
"Absolutely :)",
"Lol this is just straight up not true",
"I'm interested, tell me more",
"The fuck they want from me anyway?",
"Did you say something troll?\n\nGo worship the Rittenhouse poster hanging in your room Cleetus.",
"Lmfao.. You're not even good at trolling kiddo. 0/10, keep trying.",
"You got me. I'm a troll for pointing out the idiocy of ad hominem attacks. Not surprised you are too stupid to actually comment on my post. Probably don't even see the irony.\n\nWho needs genuine discourse when we have such great shitposters like you.",
"Fair point. The video is still stupid, overly simplistic and accomplishes nothing",
"The people in charge are psychos. They will gladly let us all die while they live in opulence.",
"> I think most regular people are actually enthusiastic \n\nmost regular AMERICANS",
"r/Sino is leaking.\n\nHow many social credits is Pooh bear giving you for posting this bullshit?",
"Yawn, 0/10 kiddo.",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qhx603/the_united_nations_just_released_this_psa/hifscon/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3",
"UN is a joke at this point. Can't even stand against China and Russia.",
"So they released a video with an oversized monitor lizard? Monitor lizards aren’t extinct. Tone deaf ad?",
"Good luck finding one that actually delivers on what it promises",
"I don’t know that this warrants a lot of effort because your understanding of the issue falls largely on conspiracies and misinformation but I encourage you to read through some of the other material in the thread.",
"Awww, how cute. He only has 3 or 4 insults to spam.\n\nIf you're gonna show up to threads and shitpost on multiple comments, atleast mix it up",
"I think you mean birds are dinosaurs",
"Trolling would be making irrelevant arguments about someone's comment history to derail the discussion.",
"Clever girl",
"They said \nif you want change to happen, get rid of Veto power for the 5. \n\n\nagain what does the UN's 'Veto power for the 5' have to do with climate change or extinction. Why bring this up. \n\n\nIf there is a valid reason by all means but it isn't being discussed.",
"Can you then give and example of succesful socialism that isnt like the USSR?",
"\"FoLlOw ThE sCiEnCe!\" say those who think dinosaurs looked the way we thought they looked 30 years ago.",
"Take a dump and leaves.",
"Group of scientists qualified to have an actual opinion on climate science, vs some random person on the internet?",
"r/brandnewsentence",
"You paying attention Australian Liberal and Labor party?\n\nSigned,\n\nus in Australia , where live the residents, the vast majority supporting a move to renewable energy. We are not being listened to. Hopefully Scomo and his reduction by 2050 (too late) will be laughed out of the room and he will be so embarrassed",
"> It’s the politicians and companies who need to change and do something.\n\nPoliticians won't budge if it's not a ballot issue, which depends on what the people put as priority.",
"I've done that since I was 18. Always on the green party. I don't think I've made an impact :P I don't think you can change the the things that matter much. Seems you need big money.",
"David firth's 'Sock' series is based on animated dreams",
"The Claw of Destiny",
"Genius. Wish they make more adverts like this. By far one of the most extremely effective in terms of exposure",
"Seems like the usual thing of blaming the general public for the small actions they take whilst industry and military contribute insane amounts of pollution. \n\nOoh did you not bring your own cup to starbucks? You got a disposable one? You fucking monster. Please ignore that huge oil spill, and focus on your cup.",
"The internet. \n\nGet the people to talk about it. Hopefully the younger people. Push for a change on generations that are not completely deaf to climate change.",
"Scott Morrison is doing wonders to speeding Australia’s demise , he thinks “future technology” will deal with it… in other words whilst he’s in power, he’s not doing anything to help",
"> Most normal citizens don't want to continue subsidizing oil, but we don't hold any decision making power. \n\nDead wrong. Most normal citizens would absolute hate any politician that is willing to put environmental well being over economical well being. Gas prices hikes, job shortages are instant news. Reducing consumption is an instant turn off. Every politician trying to go green has to put mascara on the issue and saying 'its an opportunity! More jobs! More infrastructure!' instead of putting the urgency of climate change first. We are still one generation away from having environmental issue being the fore front of political discourse, if at all.",
"Not that it'd make a difference, politicians just as awful will just get voted in...",
"\"Do a nuclear\" I think your idea is the shitty half measure solution here. If you just let energy consumption scale up with nuclear technology while claiming it can't be the users fault, we'll likely still be in the same position when the minable materials are depleted.",
"> If a strong majority of normal citizens pushed for a carbon tax, we'd have it.\n\nAnd even if you did, the most impacted would riot instantly if not done carefully. See yellow jackets in France for a small taste.",
"Yeah, and it’s his parents making him hold those scripted speeches, they’re just trying to make money off of his fame and shouldn’t he be at school? Poor thing.",
"I've been doing outreach to teens and I can tell you that they are pissed. \n\nOlder generations have been screwing up their future and they know it. In a few short years, they will vote and I hope it's impactful.",
"And here I thought it was going to be a trailer for Velocipastor 2.",
"M E T A\n\nE E \n\nT T \n\nA A",
"Unfortunately companies new promise projections are pushed out to 2030. This climate summit comming up there is already other countries that want more time. No ones gonna change anything. Theyll just throw out more stuff for us. While the big azz problems keep going on.",
"meanwhile in Europe: EU scrambles to subsidize gas prices because people don't like high gas prices",
"Vote away? No. But *other* away? If the masses were willing to go there as a unified force, then maybe.",
"I mean no, workers have power(and not just voting, which doesnt do shit without pressure) by being able to grind the economy to a halt through unions and strikes. You just have to organize to make it happen, which is certainly easier said than done.",
"I know right? \"Don't choose extinction\" bitch I'd extinct the rich and powerful who got us into this mess before choosing extinction. But maybe you could convince them to do something first?",
"This is, frankly, what it will take. Rich, greedy fuckers will breed more rich, greedy fuckers. Only if the common folk rise up and smite them down will we see change. But good luck with that.",
"Surprisingly weak advert. Kudos for trying though...",
"In a way we do, because we continue to elect the people who do this shit.",
"I mean.. the UN are the ones who can actually do something about climate change. What do they want me to do? They’re in power. SMH.",
"por que no los dos?",
"China is using a lot of market-based solutions to solve the climate too, which isn't what most people who hate r/neoliberal want.\n\nAlso we also live in a country with a horrific credit system, so don't throw stones in glass houses.",
"Isn't toy story 26 years old?",
"There is no cure that doesn't involve reducing population. You can reduce reuse recycle all day if there are twice as many people twice as much is used simple logic.",
"thats rich coming from the united nations, get it? rich? :))",
"yeah talking about how shit it is",
"ok, lets take action guys.. im finally going to buy that prius ive always wanted",
"but nucelar is stinky cause i watch the simpsons and they said it was bad but homer doesnt even realise cause hes stupid but we are smart so maybe we can avoid this bad nuclear",
"r/conservative is downvoting the shit out of this post.",
"Okay I had a feeling at some point CG artists were researching dinosaurs for a movie or tv show, saw the feathers, went \"we can't do that yet\" and just went with the simplest textures.\n\nLike every short haired 3d protagonist in a game back in the day.",
"If we need a CGI Dinosaur who speaks English to tell us where we have gone wrong and what to do, it's obvious we have missed the mark as humans.",
"So…solar & wind powered desalination plant, with hydroponic and aquaponics farming, infrastructure?\n\nSo that once built, the input values are; sea water and electricity, with the output values of; fresh water, crops, fish, fertilizer and salt…hydroponic used to reduce water needs per plant(op ex), fish farming to reduce fertilizer needs (op ex)….\n\nAquaponics: fish farming that uses fish poop and pee processed by bacteria for fertilizer in hydroponics\n\nThough, the thing I didn’t talk about was…population density…would be easier to distribute, and less pollution…if the population you were trying to feed was densely populated…\n\nso maybe we build densely populated cities for the poor and disenfranchised… and we use what Americans give to 501c(3) and 501c(4) organizations(charities) a year ~$465 billion…$65 billion on previous talked about infrastructure then ~$400 billion a year on High density mixed use building’s, 100 stories; retail first few floors, flex space next couple, commercial next few, office next, then building systems, then low income “live to own” residential, then mid range apartments, then residential amenities; gym, pool, garden, etc, then luxury apartments top floors…let’s say $100,000,00 build cost for each building, so ~4,000 a year or 4 million people a year, 100 million refugees/illegal immigrants worldwide, so 25 years… “give me, your tired, your hungry, your huddled masses, yearning to be free!”\n\nIf we were to do this globally, could be 100 cities with 100 million people each. Each city comprised of 100,000 buildings with 1,000 people each, in 100 sq miles each (10x10)…connected by highspeed rail(electric), passenger and freight…that’s the world population; (housed, fed, and watered) with room to grow in less that .1% of the world land mass and minimal op ex per capita…\n\nEdit: I will put on my tin foil hat, and show myself out… because I was trying to solve the worlds problems, and that’s just crazy…time to read Don Quixote again…",
"shut up dad, i mean mr president",
"Good god I hope Bowser doesn’t sound like that.",
"They way ahead of you dawg",
"Even if they were they wouldn’t have veto power",
"so they dont veto man have u played too many g🤮mes that rotted ur brain or something\n\nalso if veto power to the 5 changes anything has nothing to do with u not know what an example is u dirty stinky g🤮mer",
"You know, we can do two things at once. It doesn't have to be either or.\n\nIf the science shows that a carbon tax is effective, (something that the poster has listed many resources for), then let's do it.\n\nIf the science shows that nuclear energy is also effective, (which I personally agree with you that it is), then let's do that too. \n\n\n> take my fucking hard earned money which I have not nearly enough of\n\nDid you not pay any attention whatsoever? If you don't have much money, you're presumably not spending much on carbon anyway, which means you'd likely fall into the 60% of people who'd financially BENEFIT from the tax. \n\n\n>(in fact, \\~60% of the public would receive more in dividend than they paid in tax)",
"Big Reptiles would be more accurate.",
"Can't they just, start a nuclear war? Whether or not it gets formalized in the UN seems irrelevant.",
"Because the second one will in an likelihood never happen. These assholes will croak rich, fat, and happy without ever seeing a single consequence. I see the common citizen paying a climate tax way before some oil executive.\n\nOur system was long fucked before we were born. Lobbyists actively control our government. Even if they don't necessarily have the wheel, they have their feet on the gas and brake.",
"[Jurassic Fight Night fans](https://jurassicfightnight.com/)",
"I like all Raptors.",
"I'd pay 40$ to see Denmark go underwater.",
"People that will tell others to 'follow the science' but haven't payed enough attention to the science in the last decade or two to know that science is pretty sure the raptors didn't look like the drawings in the 1980s children's books",
"This will be discovered by the next civilization and will be very puzzled.",
"No, it’s voters.",
"You realize only some of them were \"bird like\" the carnotaurus was a big fucking lizard the size of a car a lot were scaled lizard and a lot were birds",
"This is 100% Paid Placement",
"The Nordic European countries. You don't really need to go more extreme than the social democratic countries.",
"It says in the video it's a Utahraptor. When it cuts to the production booth there's a girl typing on a laptop that says Utahraptor.\n\nAlso there's a spelling mistake in what she's typing which was funny.",
"The very idea of carbon tax is to move the problem upstream (i.e. to the industry producing oil/gas/coal/whatever), so that \"market forces\" can work to make things more carbon-neutral by whatever measure is most efficient. This would presumably especially make nuclear more competitive, and everybody could continue flying and driving to their heart's content as long as (!) they could still afford it. \n\nNot to say that carbon tax doesn't have its own share of problems, but you seem to rather violently agree with exactly what carbon tax is trying to accomplish?",
"Yes we do. If we stand together we certainly have the power of violence!",
"That sounds a bit Judge Dredd-ish.",
"Velociraptors also weren’t that big. Blame Jurassic Park. Although they did explained it away in the later Jurassic World.",
"Probably Ireland? Does any country have a grudge against Ireland?\n\nI can't think of another country where as much of the world choose celebrate their national holiday.",
"I mean the dinosaur makes some good points, but doing this will make liberals happy. Is there any way we can not go extinct and still own the libs? No? Oh well, extinction it is I guess.",
"You literally just dont understand WHAT it is the US does.\n\nDo you honestly not get that every single expense is in the name of economic power? You get a net plus out of it all pretty much.\n\nNot to mention that national debt is an idiot magnet, since people dont know how it works whatsoever.",
"Because governments don’t tend to get their news and advice on Reddit from cg dinosaurs.",
"Yeah, that was pretty much the most stupid thing I have ever seen.\n\nI know a little bit about the workings of the UN, and those seats are filled with politicians that got there by by less than scrupulous means. These people spend their days shopping at the commissary and sleeping behind their country names (possibly watching videos or facetiming their kids). \n\nHow much did it cost to produce that video, that has zero impact? I can only imagine that someone made the mistake of giving an intern a budget...",
"They are capitalist lmao. Most industries and production there is privatised and they engage in open free trade with other market economies. Having good social policies and higher taxes does not mean they are socialist.",
"The only people that will save us is the newer generations. There are still to many old farts kicking around tbh that are set in their ways.",
"I'm sure it is the right word, I would say life is doin pretty alright now even after 6 or more mass extinction events. \nand remember after all, if it was not for one of those mass extinction events we would not even be here. \nI just think of it as a new opportunity for life to reroll the dice.",
"And the dinosaur's name? Velocibert Rapstein",
"Hey, it's us 'foreigners' that are supposed to bitch about America. These American college students and thier cultural appropriation!",
"How many fossil fuel industries are there per person? Isn't it something like 8 billion to one? \n \nIt's stupid to compare an entire industry to one person. A person shitting in a river does no harm to the river. A million people shitting in a river would make me think twice about going for a swim.",
"Sry but this is so incredible stupid.",
"My toys were made of real skin and feathers when I was a kid",
"**Raptor Jesus has returned!!!!**",
"Our leaders can be pretty flighty, though",
"This should get people to come around.",
"If it's recycling that's the message, wouldn't Aquaman be the film? What did independence Day have to do with recycling?",
">The average world leader who gets their news from CGI internet publicity stunt videos? \n\nMaybe they commissioned it while Trump was still in office, these videos can take a while to make",
"Wow,so instead of promoting hard restriction for polluting corporation they make a funny video .\n\nFuck the UN as much as the EU",
"If you want the government to ban/regulate/cut down on stuff - then you may aswell start now, though. Lead by example and be the change you are asking to be given to you. It will make it much easier when/if the time comes. We are not as equally complicit in all of this, but we are still complicit.\n\nOtherwise we're like - \"Hey stop selling us meat and oil, now here is some money for some oil.\", due to the lobbyist culture of the west politics/business are very intertwined.",
"I think you needed to be more specific here. Dinosaur. Dino. DINO. Democrat In Name Only. This is clearly targeted directly at Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, who are holding up major legislation on climate change in the US.\n\nReally though, the UN is a forum for discussion between governments, not a lawmaking body. The biggest thing they can do to make change, especially with a major international conference on the subject coming up, is to create international public pressure. And this is weird and silly enough that it's probably going to be seen by a lot of people, while simultaneously getting a message across.",
">The UN is about as useful as tits on a bull\n\n'Nipples on a breast plate' works here too.",
"It depends on how the survey is structured.\n\nTypically if you ask if a government program should be created you get in the mid 60% range of you provide no details about how it will be implemented.\n\nIf you include the costs and regulatory changes required to make it happen in the survey question the levels quickly drop to 30-40‰\n\nA third or so of Americans support new programs completely. An additional third answer yes until they are reminded what the consequences would be of making that happen.",
"You're just being contrarian at this point. Obviously the target is the public, but how is a message of stopping government subsidization of fossil fuels \"guilt tripping average people\"? It’s not.",
"Im pretty sure utah raptor was also feathered. Recent studies suggest that all dinosaurs and even pterosaurs had some sort of feathering",
"You're right, the rock floating through space will still exist. It is just all life on it that is at risk...",
"Yep, but they do have a heavy mix of capitalist & socialist practices and for the most part they have balanced it well.\n\n>Having good social policies and higher taxes does not mean they are socialist.\n\nTell that to the rest of the US.",
"Anyone else aware that majority of the world fossil fuels are burned by developing countries that are not part of the United Nations? They are in the middle of of huge economic and societal growth and don’t care one bit about climate change. They care about the welfare of their people and they need cheap power to expand. Just saying..",
"I’m not the person you responded to originally.\n\nHow? Because how is the public meant to stop governments from subsidising fossil fuels? Write a strongly worded letter?",
"Why would the 'elitist class' want us to tackle poverty and have a healthier ecosystem?",
"It is most likely they had a mix of both. Even birds today have scales. Research into feathers get more and more in-depth, and studies suggest feathers existed even before dinosaurs and were even found in pterosaurs",
"Astonishgly bad take.",
"I said this at the start of the pandemic.. At the bottom of the covid crash. My post will be on my history somewhere buried on the 6th level of the abyss.\n\nThat we have an opportunity to reinvest and take control of the direction we want to see our species go.\n\nI was downvoted into oblivion.. So I guess I know what the answer will be.",
"Good point. I admit it can be an inconvenience in case they had used disposable plastic straws specifically. Still, there are also pretty good nonmetal disposable and nondisposable alternatives.",
"Zarkin frood",
"By being aware of the issue and voting accordingly.",
"The jurassic park dinosaur was based on deinonychus, the film makers even used research on deinonychus for their work, they only called it velociraptor cuz it sounds cool",
"Most of them probably did and still do",
"The comments on there are interesting. \"I'd rather us go extinct than have global communism\"",
"So if we say the natural extinction rate is life doing *fine* we are currently experiencing extinction rates 100-1000 times that rate, which is definitely not just *fine*\n\nhttps://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01448-4",
"won't be \"all\" life. the planet has been through much worse than a bunch of greedy fucks pumping a little bit of carbon into the air \nIt will cleanse itself and be reborn, \nit's a self cleansing system :)",
"Ngl id rather a meteor that kills of 75% of all species and casts a shadow for over a decade doesnt happen",
"Good fact! It does sound cooler!",
"Maybe deinonychus?",
"Birds aren't real",
"Some say we live in a mass extinction event right now",
"We should have invested 10x as much into Nuclear power R&D 40 years ago and imagine where we could have been now ...\n\nAs it stands, with current Nuclear power technology it's really not even possible to meet the world's energy needs.\n\nNuclear plants are expensive as FUCK to build ... and require a metric fuck ton of water - hence why they are either by the sea or a major river. Climate change and rising sea level/flooding is going to be a big issue for nuclear power plant placements.\n\nBut that's irrelevant because we physically couldn't build enough of them at this point to meet energy needs due to their high cost and materials demand.\n\nWe needed much better nuclear power options than we have now and it's too late to catch up technology wise.",
"Climate change skepticism rate drops to zero",
">pumping a little bit of carbon into the air\n\nOf all the things to spread misinformation about for fun, can you just pick a different topic? The is the one global issue we all actually need to do something about.",
"I am all the corporations and i was destroying the planet for a little bit of trolling",
"extinction rate according to what. 200 years ago? before that nobody counted. not much of a sample size. \nhttps://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus\\_asset/file/6851721/post-64231-this-is-fine-dog-fire-comic-Im-N7mp.png",
"Read the paper, it's literally in the first few sentences of the abstract.",
"Does this mean dino from bedrock is named terrible",
"I choose extinction.",
"False, Israel has never been a member of the UN security council.",
"The first time I saw this I thought it was the new Jurassic park film",
"While I’d love for that to happen, I’m not overly optimistic it’ll get through to people in that way. I really hope it does, though.",
"Wait, are they still pinning the solution on the people who have no control over this? \n\nPlease tell me this is aimed at the billionaires, capitalists, politicians, world leaders, and those who hoard wealth in tax havens....\n\nThere was literally just a live stream of oil execs throwing out word salads and excuses to U.S. Congress about why they are killing this planet and its people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9aCjtcFzwY\n\nI sure hope those same folks aren't telling us, the people, to stop making excuses....\n\nBecause then we should get the fucking guillotines and show no mercy.",
"I really don't know why people care so much. \nfact is, even if everyone caring tomorrow there is not enough they could do to reverse the trends anyway, unless they want to literally live in a cave with no modern conveniences \nway i see it, humans are a natural product of this earth and whatever we do to the earth is natural.\nand if we kill ourselves with our own pollution and take 80% of life with us,, oh well. life always finds a way, it will come back ever more robust than it was\n\neveryone cares about climate change until you tell them to walk 5 minutes instead of drive. so of course, i am very controversial here in refusing to be a hypocrite like everyone else",
"I'm 12 years old and totally convinced by this Velociraptor!",
"You aren't being controversial. You are being a troll.",
"ALAN!!!",
"The problem with this approach is that you are never going to get the majority of the population to willingly reduce their own standard of living significantly enough to matter.\n\nFor like 70% of the population that lives inland enough and in a moderate enough climate in even the most drastic predictions climate change mostly amounts to unpredictable weather & supply chain issues for the next generation or more. Most proposed remedies are supply chain issues themselves so to those people you are presenting the option of doing nothing vs starting the decline of your standard of living earlier so that the minority doesn't have to relocate.\n\nThe second option has a very limited appetite from the majority.",
"So, that's Rocket in a Velociraptor costume, right? Y'all heard Rocket's voice?!",
"We are 10 years from Gen X taking control unless 80 and 90 year old's are in the primaries. Should be interesting.",
"I speak facts. if you don't like it then go do something about climate change instead of arguing with \"trolls\"",
"Eh I just like being out in nature and seeing a healthy diverse ecosystem, maybe you don't get outdoors enough to appreciate it?",
"To my knowledge deinonychus it’s about the size of the velociraptors in Jurassic Park because that’s what they are in the book.\nI might be thinking of Achillobator",
"I miss the days of a CGI camel telling me to smoke cigarettes.",
"Thereeee you go, that's the actual goal - brainwash kids! \n\nIf this video doesn't convince you that the UN is not a scientific body I don't know what will.",
"This is great. But it makes the common man feel guilty when its the Governments (I’m mainly thinking of my own, the US) who need to enact real change. Citizens have protested, written letters, all sorts of things. But it will never compare to another couple of bucks in the pockets of old Senators who will be dead by the time the real disasters happen. \n\nOh yeah, we’re seeing the beginnings, but that’s nothing to what it will look like 10, 20 years down the road. It will be horrifying. And you know who wont me affected? That’s right. The senators and congress people getting kickbacks now who will be dead anyway in 5 or so years.\n\nIm so fed up with feeling guilty like I dont want to live in a world that’s sustainable. Ive made changes in my daily routine as far as using renewable sources where I can. Realistically, it doesn’t make a dent without legislation. Legislation that isn’t going to happen until maybe, MAYBE, we get used to not going outside during certain hours on hot days, or those rich fucks in charge lose another beachside property to erosion. Personally, I cant wait. The sooner we get to life threatening consequences, the sooner we can start pretending like changing legislation at that point will make a difference. \n\nSorry. The dinosaur idea is a great one. I hope some kids get to see it so they have a nice memory when the Earth is literally on fire half the year.",
"\"Chief, mind telling me what you're doing down there?\"\n\n\"Sir, finishing this dish.\"",
"Klaxar",
"Michael Shellenburgs book 'Apocalypse Never' is an excellent read. It is all about being an environmentalist without reeeing constantly about fatalistic depictions of imminent extinction. This shit on the other hand is bullshit.",
">I love that people pretend to care about the environment, but lose their shit with the mildest inconvenience.\n\nLiterally who? The only people I know who bitch about these things never pretended to care about the environment to begin with. Everyone I know who does claim to care about the environment doesn't mind the inconvience, myself included.\n\nThere is no reason on earth to assume that the two demographics are the same, or even have significant overlap. Who are you talking about when you say \"people\"? Who, pray tell, is doing this? The public? News flash, the public is a gigantic chaotic mix of literally everybody. Seeing a lot of random people say one thing, and then seeing a lot of random people say something else, does not imply hypocrisy on anyone's part. \n\n\n>\"I want to help the environment..... but not if it slightly inconveniences me.\"\n\n\\>Scoffing at the nonexistant words of an invented person.",
"I guess Zuckerberg was a hero all along",
"Imagine having to be passive through a fucking reptile. It’s the United Fucking Nations.",
"The UN is a sham organisation, full of scumbags and criminals. \n\nThey have no right to tell us anything about anything. This is disgusting.\n\nFuck the UN.",
"yeah i get it, it's easier to sit behind a phone and get pissed off at people for their opinions rather than do something to change the \"climate crisis\"\n\n\"nature and seeing a healthy diverse ecosystem\"\nafter humans go extinct there will be a lot of that. :)\n\nI see lot's of nature tyvm, I live in the middle of nowhere, far away from your kind.",
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_a_Dream",
"**[I Have a Dream](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_a_Dream)** \n \n >\"I Have a Dream\" is a public speech that was delivered by American civil rights activist and Baptist minister, Martin Luther King Jr., during the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom on August 28, 1963. In the speech, King called for civil and economic rights and an end to racism in the United States. Delivered to over 250,000 civil rights supporters from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D.C., the speech was a defining moment of the civil rights movement and among the most iconic speeches in American history.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)",
"So the people with the most power to help the planet created a video about needing to help the planet.",
"Did you read the rest of the comment? He's using it as an example to show the ridiculousness of how the UN is run and it's hard to get any really change through",
"We have an international food surplus. The reason ppl starve is governmental corruption or lack of real concern. Not climate change. How many kids could have been fed for a year instead of making this piece of shit short?",
"I don’t get it, the UN made a PSA directed towards themselves?",
"Abolish the UN.",
"Why not both🤷♂️",
"It's fucking hyperbole",
"And you know what I'll stop drilling for oil off all the coastal waters.",
"He voices a bird in Mike Tyson's Mysteries, so pretty close?",
"#I HATE THE ANTICHRIST\n\n#I HATE THE ANTICHRIST",
"You have democrats in power right now. What have they done about this?\n\nThe problem is that both your political parties are bought and paid for. Whinging about \"Trump iz badz\" or \"Clinton is predatorz\" is pointless and a distraction from the point at hand: \nWhat are you doing to stop yourselves dying out?",
">The problem with this approach is that you are never going to get the majority of the population to willingly reduce their own standard of living significantly enough to matter\n\nWe're never going to get the majority doing shit if corporations and government are pushed...?\n\n>The second option\n\nThese aren't options.\n\nThese are all areas that need to change to meet carbon neutral civilisations and avert the climate crisis. All of them.\n\nNone of these will remain unchanged on the path to carbon neutrality.\n\nJust be ahead of the curve where you can, that's all.",
"100%. It's a joke.\n\nWe legitimately cannot transition to renewables in the timelines these idiots at the UN are proposing without cutting off energy to millions. We don't have enough alternate energy ready to roll out. It doesn't matter how expensive you make gas in the short term past a point. \n\nIf you're going to advocate for policy that kills millions, you better have more evidence for it than \"our made up computer models (which have been wrong for a decade) show a very bad thing happening someday\"\n\nThe fact most redditors haven't woken up to this reality is super annoying to see on the daily.",
"Yeh Im yet to get to watch much of that. I feel he would have been good for this dinosaur role ..weird thing to think but his voice and cadence gets stuck in my head sometimes that I can hear it over the top of other voices.",
"The public is aware. They aren't the ones preventing change.",
"> Literally who? The only people I know who bitch about these things never pretended to care about the environment to begin with.\n\nNo. What? Do you want me to give specific examples from my life? Lmfao your entire comment is based off of the assumption that these people do exist when I have had first hand experience with them. You are a spastic, move along.",
"This a desire. Not a plan. Sustainable energy cannot come online at anything near reasonable speed or costs.",
"To be fair in the USA people only real mode of transportation is the car. Thanks to the oil companies destroying public transportation back in the 50s. But oil is so much more than just fuel.",
"A lack of political will is not what is stopping climate change being \naddressed. A lack of solutions is.\n\n> If I pay for someone to solve a problem for me I wouldn't expect myself to do the majority of the work and still pay them. Likewise, not to sound entitiled, but I already payed for taxes, I think the government can come up with solutions without having me to also think for them\n\nYou sound incredibly entitled, actually.\n\nTypical redditor stance on things \"WON'T SOMEONE ELSE PLEASE FIX THIS??\"",
"Cool, i guess me, a normal guy will now singlehandedly stop climate change. Thanks UN",
"Yea but for sure the dinosaur definitely is going to do it ! I already heard this video convinced enough people in r/politics to buy a Tesla.",
"Really wish people would look into the historic warming and cooling trends that scientists have uncovered from millions of years ago. People that create these have no clue that our planet regulates its own warmth on its own as a side effect of volcanoes. Right now we're on a warming trend. This trend started somewhere in the last few decades. Unfortunately, this is also when the ozone started to erode and C02 levels were higher than what the planet produces. Not necessarily making things worse, but expediting the warming trend.",
"Ok so a PSA for UN ambassadors and world leaders made for their constituents, who have little or no effect on policies that said officials pass? What's the message here? \"We need to do something? \" well yeah, duh... well how about setting standards that all countries can and will abide by, and punish countries that fail to meet their goals?",
"Jesus everything you say is wrong m8, learn something, *anything* really, before commenting.",
"I wouldnt look into it too deeply, most enviromental places still use the DODO as a mascot to keep its existence and death via humans in the publics eye, although we did not kill the dinosaurs there is some evidence that an event that caused mass climate change aided to kill them off.\n\nWe are the new event causing climate change and we for the most part rely on other animals for food, even when not eating them directly they polinate plants that grow vegetables and fruit etc.",
"We have the power to change those corporations. We buy stuff from companies, we pay for their investments. If we want them to change, we collectively have to change our spending habits.",
"Ummm the average temp of the planet when Dino’s were alive was much higher than it is today. Dinos want climate change",
"The UN lost all credibility a loooong time ago lol",
"How do you get rid of the veto if all proposals to do so get vetoed?",
"Well I got it and laughed. Thanks",
"Oil industry: \"Cute PSA, but we're the ones actually in charge around here.\"",
"Hey here's an idea: Life is short and I'm gonna enjoy it how I see fit. Kindly keep your preaching to those who care, oh right no one does that's why you're shaming people on reddit for drinking soda.",
"Okay Hollywood Redditors, ball park me on just how much money they spent to make this?",
"Well when the west was developing during the industrial revolution they actually spewed a lot more carbon than currently being done by asian countries. So quite hypocritical to shame other countries also going through a development phase to be doing wrong",
"Nice, but why are there so many subliminal ads for NBC hidden in this?",
"Cool, but pretty sure we've chosen extinction...",
"Jack Black?",
"What youre getting wrong is that this happens over thousands of years not a couple hundred",
"Hmm… what about a $500,000,000 fee for entering Earth’s atmosphere, directed toward the construction of further carbon capture plants? Every space tourist is ~2600 cars offset, which isn’t a lot but it’s more than none.\n\nMight need to grandfather the crew of the ISS though, nobody expected to have to spend that to get them back, they could end up being left in space to rot.",
"Us little people that individually can make .002% difference but collectively can make 8.2% difference...meanwhile global entities and world powers can account for 85.2% and the rest is just mother nature doing its thing....and yes this entirely made up and yes we are fucked.",
"There's one tried-and-true way of getting the attention of rich people and until that happens, expect zero useful progress on climate change. The 1% will simply block any action that affects their power and comfort; they would rather the global population starve, than they give up anything.\n\nYou can't ask wealthy people to give up their private jets, palaces, armies of servants/slaves, their banks, their private law. You can't ask",
"Life cannot be really eradicated, unless you blow up the planet and even then maybe no",
"The reason climate change is bad is cuz it will make a lot of regions inhabitable and will also produce massively destructive storms",
"Money sadly cannot remove world hunger. That only goes when systems are redone",
"👍",
"Climate change happens over thousands and millions of years, not a couple hundred…\n\nAnd what we are doing is nowhere close to other mass extinctions, but its still bad",
"It’s effective. If it was a person they would be judged by their appearance and age and sex and immediately dismissed. If it’s a dinosaur, we are curious about what it wants to say so we will listen.",
"Jesus these comments are lame.",
"Meh, i hate fear propaganda. \"Its now or never\", no it is not. \"You will go extinct\", no we wont.\n\nWe can change today, or we can change in 10 years, or in 100 years, or not at all. And whichever we choose, we won't go extinct (atleast not in the current rate). Will millions upon millions die and have to leave their homes? Sure. Will every last person on earth die? Nope. Several millions or tens-hundreds of millions of people will still inhabit the earth.\n\nNot saying we shouldn't stop subsidizing oil and gas, we should because thats just stupid. Build nuclear plants instead and switch over to electric as much as possible. But stop it with the damn fear propaganda.",
"Oh look, it's the \"subsidizing fossil fuels\" line that's been debunked for over a decade. \n\nOil and natural gas get no special subsidization (in the US at least). What they get are similar tax deductions as other manufacturing industries on expenditures and losses. \n\nGetting a tax break where you don't pay taxes on losses is not something unique to Oil and Gas. Every industry has similar tax breaks. It is also not the same thing as the government writing checks to companies for specific developments or rebates. \n\nI believe in climate change action, but I'm not a supporter of spreading disinformation to do that.",
"Someone needs to tell that dinosaur about capitalism and why we're never getting out of this crisis while capitalism exists.",
">Right? I'm so confused.\n\nThat was the plan.\n\n>The average world leader who gets their news from CGI internet publicity stunt videos?\n\nThe last 5 years should've alerted you to the possibility that the only world leaders anywhere close to being competent are so geriatric that it affects their mental capacity, and their replacements are fakers who made it by knowing the right people and now have no idea what to do next in the face of a real challenge. \n\nIn short, yeah, they're short-sighted, vain and immature enough for a cartoon dinosaur to better get through to them than an Nth powerpoint presentation... But don't worry, as they come down from cocaine high and yell \"I don't wanna choose extinction!\", a Saudi prince will swiftly be at his side, generously offering a snort of white powderized hopium off his circumcised cock. And it will be back to normal again!",
"Fun fact: the Rendering on the Raptor alone increased temperatures by 1C world wide. \n\nWell played, UN",
"Humanity cannot go extinct from any of the climate predictions.",
"2:18 noce cock brother",
"The most unbelievable part is the standing ovation at the end. The real ending woulda been that raptor being shot and called a terrorist while big oil used the publicity to try and direct more funds into their own pokcets.\n\nAnd our world leaders would help them do it.",
"The uncomfortable truth is there is only one way to deal with it. I ain't even that old (46) and the world's populating is damn near 2 times what it was when I was born. \n\nWe need to stop having kiddos. At least making more than we replace at this point.",
"The joke is that they have to clap, because otherwise the dinosaur might eat them.",
"https://youtu.be/F0BfcdPKw8E\n\nOh what that’s not Steve that IS Allen",
"And you won't be able to live there, or anywhere, much longer if we don't stop manmade climate change.",
"Love this",
"Nuclear technology is a great solution to remedy a lot of issues right now. It will also gives us a lot of time to improve our renewable energy tech so that can take over in the long run.\n\nIt's the only thing that makes sense and is feasible.",
"If I shot this I would've definitely included the raptor having a little \"snack\" at the very end of the video. You know, for comic relief.",
"╰⋃╯ლ(´ڡ`ლ)",
"The climate change happening now isnt a couple thousand",
"I'll be long dead before it's a big enough problem for my area, but yeaah, R.I.P Florida.",
"This is not a good example of the veto power of the P5 in the Security Council. The vote was on to end the US blockade on Cuba in the General Assembly. The UN cannot stop the US from ending its own blockade. The vote was symbolic and accomplished nothing but sending a message that the literal entire rest of the world wants the blockade to end. The P5 veto carries more weight because it can stop the Security Council from actually taking action. If China wants to invade Taiwan tomorrow, it could veto any UN action against it, like sanctions or an international peacekeeping coalition. Again, that wouldn’t stop the US from forming its own coalition forces independently from the UN. \n\nThe main function that the Security Council provides is a venue where adversaries like China and the US can talk it out instead of going to war over a misunderstanding. It would prevent things like a tiff between Japanese and Chinese fishermen escalating into World War III.",
"None of the politicians you can vote for give a shit. Not one.\n\nThey may lie and say they do, but when it comes down to it. They don’t give a fuck.",
"You mean we won't go extinct like *some* dinosaur descendants made it to 2021?",
"😂😂",
"As are Chinese and Russians paid to stir up divisions among Americans. It has been confirmed and proven multiple times and then we all just go back to arguing with strangers as if there are no paid bad actors.\n\nEdit: likely US, Israeli and others too.",
"Sounds like you folks have it taken care of. I am going to grab a beer and kick up my feet.",
"Between the factions that view the climate changing as inevitable & the factions that view the change as less than a crisis the factions that think massive economic harm from shuttering entire industries and declaring currently habitable land off limits are in the minority by quite a bit.\n\nEven in the most dire projections sea level changes directly effect 8% of the population. All cause effects somewhere around 12%. Indirect effects are much more widespread but become more of an economic factor.\n\nSo for 80% or more of the population this is almost entirely a moral or economic argument or it is a choice between being able to afford fuel and utilities vs changes in what is affordable at the grocery store.",
"Lol a lot of lights in that big room using plenty of energy. Consider downsizing perhaps.",
"go on the streets, be loud.\n\nJoin a local group that organises protest for climate justice",
"Oh...you're from Florida. The stupid makes sense now.",
"Living Fossils to be fair",
"Not to mention Utahraptor was early cretaceous. 70 million years? Try 125 million years. Nowhere near the K-Pg extinction!",
"Nah, part of the problem is that we still have a bunch of people that either think electing a republican will save it all or electing a Democrat. We have seen the cycle many times, it is just a game. \n\nLook at right now, there is literally 2 dems blocking all progress . How about the insider trading that people like Pelosi take advantage of and then wants to preach about inequalities and shit, some of these people are just as bad as McConnell, the only difference is that they do it behind closed doors.",
"Is this the stuff american people need to listen? Ok, then, I guess. Anything that helps is good.",
"Americans",
">people have been talking about this type of passive progressivism for the past 20 years ESPECIALLY about climate change and even back then it was all \"well we influence the world leaders of tomorrow\"\n\n>20\n\nHa-ha-ha-ha-ha!\nOh, sorry. That came out wrong.\n\n*draws air*\n\nXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXXAAAAAAAAA\n\nTry sixty years, almost to the fucking day. The Third Program of the Communist Party of Soviet Union has outlined the challenges (you're never gonna believe it - it's environmental degradation, growth dependency and disenfranchisement of the workforce), and hardships, that we are facing today, almost as if there's been no progress for these 60 years. And the \"solutions\" they've offered are almost EXACTLY the same ones as we are offered today by the progressives. Education, influencing the world leaders of tomorrow, global support for disenfranchised groups. I shit you not, these exact words. The folks in power today, they are the ones educated by the teachers who this sixty-years-old program was intended to spur.\n\nOh, and there's \"forming new relations and connections in the industrial and economic base\", which was supposed to bring communism in 20 years (that's like Second Coming, it was predisposed that communism automatically solves every problem and thus its realization is the only thing that really matters) without elaborating HOW. Now we know, it's the gig economy.\n\nhttps://www.amazon.com/Report-program-Communist-Party-Soviet/dp/B0007ENFZQ\n\nI can't find you a translation sadly, but it's gotta be somewhere out there, or at least a report on the Program's resolutions.",
"Cool, except I don't see government people actually changing shit because of a yt video. So you know... But I appreciate the idea.",
"nah, I am Canadian. \nwarmer winters? sign me the fuck up",
"I keep voting Green Party and they keep not winning. I don’t think it’s helping much.",
"> However, a much much bigger problem is that we DID vote for a Clinton again\n\nNah, the bigger problem is that you DID vote for Sanders and the DNC has instead decided to pick a candidate infamous for antagonizing their own base at the height of OWS protests just 5 years prior. A wet napkin could beat Drumpf, and Clinton did worse than even that. DNC's leadership that caused this idiotic failure has suffered no negative consequences for their incompetence and thus will do it again and again. \n\nI'm willing to bet that if the RNC picked anyone other than Trump - be it Cruz or Santorum or a dead-looking turtle, or if they dug up Bush Sr. and put his jawbone into the chair, they'd have the democrats beat again in 2020. \n\nThe comparison of Gore to HRC is unfathomable, Gore beat his opponent in the primaries by over 50% while even the Democrat media was on the fence on whether to full-on throat Wanker Bush or do lip service to environmentalism and economic regulation. In contrast, Clinton barely squeezed past Bernie after DNC's collusion (sorry, I mean their legitimate co-operation with the big media businesses to fight against a dirty business-hating anti-American socialist) with the propaganda firms to smear Sanders on TV, in the radio and on the Internet.",
">What power do I have [...]?\n\nYou have your voice, use it.\n\nGo on the streets, organise protests agains fossil fuel subsidies, be annoying & cause disturbance.\n\nThis is how change can happen - we need the people on the streets making their voices heard",
"> not even considering that it has no feathers\n\nwhat? It shaved",
"Do you want $12 gas?",
"I'm surprised it wasn't voiced by Chris Pratt /s\n\nThe future fucking sucks.",
"They clapped to Greta. They always do that. Then they do nothing.",
".",
"Exactly. They clapped to Greta. And then they did nothing.",
"And fuck all will be done as the ruling classes don't care about the future of the lower classes.\n\nWe're fucked, absolutely fucked.",
"The raptor sounds like a great value Jack Black aka Jack Brown.",
"Where are is feathers?",
"I do lots to take action on climate change. I've actually written papers on it too but hey sometimes you can't fight willful ignorance!",
"The only thing random citizens could do is overthrow their culture, government or economies. They won't. They need them. So they will wait until these things collapse under their own weight.",
"No adult claps to greta. they sit in shame as she lectures them.",
"Yes...but that's pennies compared to the money given to oil, meat, and all other industries that pollute for profit.",
"Birds are living dinosaurs and they have feathers",
"wow, you've written papers! I'm sure that will change a lot!! thanks for fixing the problem.",
"just makes me want to consume more",
"The black guy wasn't eaten, I applaud that subversion of narrative.",
"ok I'll vote if they give everyone an electric car and solar panels",
"im young n i dont give a frick",
"12k EV subsidy in the infra bill. Just don’t expect to get a Tesla and you’ll soon have that 15-20k EV. That is unless man chin kills that too, or the manufacturers all raise their prices by 12k",
"Increases from a carbon tax will most likely get passed down to the individual",
"if you’re dumb enough to think the straw thing is being discussed as a climate change solution by world leaders then you better go back to facebook and mainline the propaganda directly",
"Putin said that 95% of politicians /governors are non humans and cold blooded hibrids",
"Thank you! The guy you’re responding to is technically right that some were suspected to have feathers and some not, but it’s not a mystery that this group had feathers!",
"You voted for those politicians with your votes and potentially volunteered on their campaigns and you supported those companies with your money. There’s a good chance you drive a vehicle that emits and you probably could get one with less emissions. You likely use more AC than you need and eat meat. I think people especially Americans who have one of the highest per capita carbon outputs should stop pretending they’re innocent here.",
"Perhaps liquid dinosaurs can still help!\n\nDinosaurs vs APCs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwGd0WM2uA0\n\nDinosaurs vs water cannon, with a sprinkling of optimism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c6HQpH7zWQ\n\nTrebuchet and optimism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln8hFSLE1Qc",
"Seeing them scared on the floor reminded me too much of Jan 6 to be able to enjoy this. My mind jumped right to congress crouching down hiding.",
"Aww whatta cool advert……..we’re so fucked.",
"Yeah good luck. [This](https://i.imgur.com/SWRRtv8.jpg) is kind of logic we're dealing with.",
"This is the cringiest shit",
"Oil subsidies are a tiny drop in the bucket. They’re incredibly profitable without them and they’re mostly just tax breaks and costs of drilling domestically - not money given to the company- for depreciation on assets same as any other corporation",
"People keep spouting this but there is little evidence that actually taxing businesses appropriately is going to directly and proportionally increase the cost of goods and services.",
"If we stopped oil subsidizes, what do you think that would do to the price of energy? Do you think it will be become more or less affordable? Do you think that will help or hurt the poorest people among us?",
"Why in god's name would a he have a southern American accent though!? I think we know target audience XD",
"People with a similar accent to the dinosaur I would imagine XD",
"You can tell this is fake because everyone supported his idea.",
"It's all coming together.",
"Alex Jones is going to have a field day with this one",
"There are enough dodos in leadership that it still applies.",
"This doesn't work on people who also don't believe in dinosaurs.",
"You might actually see colder temperatures if the polar vortex continues to be altered through climate change.",
"Yeah this is the sad truth. We need some very creative application of current tech and/or development of new tech to tackle that problem. \n\nThere is some interesting stuff being done in the artificial photosynthesis world and even bioengeneering could help. But w/e workable solution is very likely at least a decade away of even being prototyped.",
"People are so quick to talk shit on the efforts made by the UN technocracy to further a green agenda, but forget that the SDG's are literally the most used sustainability legitimizing system the world has ever seen. Millions of things get done every day to further the SDG's, at business schools all over the world there are entire programs dedicated to aligning companies with SDG's. It's ridiculous how successful the UN has been in making those the common sustainability language of the world. It might be their most successful endeavor to date.",
"Good message for political dinosaurs but the answer has been there for a while. Switch to nuclear. But unfortunately people are scared to because it sounds like a dirty word",
"What's the point of this psa? It won't stop corporations and politicans from fucking this planet over and over again.",
"Find another person. Individually add up how much it costs to sustain you and/or your lifestyle and combine what’s left over with them and have them do the same. Each taking turns in spending every other payday.\n\nYour jobs will provide the income and the combined surplus will make it easier to pursue hobbies or climb the societal ladder. Including more and more people will add to the over all supply that each person in the network will have access to, thereby compounding the process.\n\nFor added security (insurance) have each person in the network find others to rely on. With that you’ll have overlapping security.\n\nSupplant anything of value to you personally for the “income” portion and as long as you’re covering for yourself first and foremost, all goods (including for luxury) will get distributed across a wider system in accordance to how you relate to other people. Use cost cutting measures to increase any holdings and share information.\n\nWith that added insurance, use any and all surplus to invest in people most capable of bringing about change, including local chapters and environmental projects. Tell them about this process and aid them in building up a web of support and you can scale up any system, company or self-governance",
"Jeff Goldblums character constantly talks about recycling in that movie.",
"What an inspirational Dino.",
"oh well, i only need to deal with it for ~80 years tops, after I am gone I literally don't care what happens to this place.\nif that makes me a ignorant asshole then i guess that's what I am :)",
"complex issues require complex explanations",
"Okay but who the fuck is this for?",
"Is that Chris Evans' voice?",
"We call those little thingies in their ears Bable fish.",
"It's unfortunate that it is already too late, but I like the sentiment.",
"There's not the slightest chance that climate change will lead to human extinction.",
"Lol, the rest of the US is technically wrong. People don’t research what socialism is. It’s he means of owning production. Not social policy.\n\nUniversal healthcare has nothing to do with socialism. Not being able to own a private business is socialism.",
"Well its a little hard to change anything when chevron is sending people to prison",
"[Evidence of adults clapping to Greta](https://youtu.be/KAJsdgTPJpU?t=289).",
">Probably Ireland? Does any country have a grudge against Ireland?\n>\n\nNorthern Ireland and England had pretty tense relations (to put it mildly) for a good portion of my lifetime.",
"This is WUMBO!",
"From what this lizard person says, we wouldn’t be in this mess if the world were controlled by lizard people",
"The UN and WHO are a joke. Complete failures, dominated by corrupt world politics. Ask them about Taiwan. Ask them about Crimea. Ask them about Russia. Fucking JOKE.",
">Yep, but they do have a heavy mix of capitalist & socialist practices and for the most part they have balanced it well.\n\nWhat are those socialist practices? Good social healthcare is not one of them BTW. \n\n>Tell that to the rest of the US.\n\nOk. But can you tell progressives like Bernie Sanders or AOC to stop calling themselves socialists so they dont cripple what little chance they have of achieving any policy success?",
"Maybe in europe that works but in america you only have the illusion of choice. We're in a corporate plutocracy where the actions of either party are dictated by lobbies.",
">Dinosaurs can't talk.\n\nCommon side effect of being dead.",
"Not from the front, but from the side.",
"Mouseter Chief",
"The only thing to fix these is a fundamental restructuring of our economic system. Those in power have a death grip on control so we either forcefully remove those from power or our entire species goes extinct.",
"I'm pretty sure he'd be favored actually against Biden or Harris unless things drastically change.\n\nThat said, \"drastic change\" very often happens over the course of 3 years.",
"Ah don't worry I'm sure you'll face some financial costs related to climate change within 80 years. Fires, floods, extra snowfall, food scarcity all possible well within 80 years.",
"Love it! Sephiroth 2024, VP Magic Meteor…",
"Haha, where did you get that data? I don't recall being polled?",
"lol ok",
"It's at least worth making an effort -- write a letter to your senator, sign a few petitions. Maybe someday our children can live in a world without cheeto dust caught in their arm hair.",
"Who is this for? Not for any CEO running this planet into the dirt. Not for politicians. So who is it then?",
"If they think like this one then fucking good!",
"Should have opened with \"What's jablin jables?\"",
"You ever heard of a revolution?",
"Astroturfed by either.... people who believe climate change is a legitimate fear, or people who believe it is overblown? You think the internet has a shortage of one of these two categories?\n\nLooks like just the internet being the internet, but I dunno, I've seen a lot of internet",
"Thanks for the explanation",
"Go away, baitin’!",
"Says the most inefficient organization on the face of the planet.",
"Found it. Its called These Final Hours. \n\nIt takes place on the side of the planet opposite of a meteor strike that will eliminate all life on earth. And the people who are waiting for the end to get to them.",
"Those videos are too serious to be memetic. It's tough to strike a balance between \"message that will get to people\" and \"funny video people MIGHT share even if they disagree with our message\"\n\nThe ideal scenario for a video like this isn't to reach 100 people and change their mind. It's to reach 10,000,000 people and get them to talk about the video. It's okay if the video is corny.",
"I’ll see y’all during rapture. Too bad we gonna die in a geostorm, then we gonna have a Hollywood movie made about us after we die, and someone gonna make billions.",
"Does every drop in the bucket count? Does an ounce of waste really impact the plant the same way 1000s of metric tons does..? \n\nNo.",
"Uh... Okay",
"Very wholesome and shit but none of the people that actually have the power to make the decisions is affected by these kind of videos. They only respond to numbers",
"Viral video hopes! Target audience is the world if it goes. You got your 15-30’s on social media, random Facebook vibes & then general public once morning shows start showing it.",
"OK, you've just shot the elite and destroyed their information gathering networks, cut loose any of their subordinates in control of their property, and popped the bubble that is the global economy. Now devoid of IMF loans, WTO regulators and globally-funded welfare for their largest state corporations, most of the world's population has the price of their market basket rocket into the roof and stay there. Governments are left unable to pay the increased demands of their military, leading to mass desertions and sale of firearms to whoever's bid most. If you want to know how it looks like, look at July Days, at oceans of rag-tag gunmen flowing through the streets (the largest demonstration has included half a million people in just ONE procession), shot at by unidentified snipers and shooting back into any suspicious window, rooftop or tree. Soon enough, it evolves into a mass of armed paranoid and panicked people.\n\nAnd that's where the ACTUAL climate-problems-changing-bullets start flying - the bullets that cut our population back to where it used to be at the start of modern phase of the Industrial Age - around 2 billion. Some of them are administered on the street, some in prison, some at home, some in clandestine detention facilities organized by whatever's left of the government, or whatever's left of the revolutionary leadership. \n\nOr maybe not, maybe this global civil war will destroy enough industrial infrastructure to make even 2 billion unfeasible, and we'll plunge back into low nine or eight figures, as the nature's intended. \n\nIf any of this sounds absurd, it's because it is, and it is because we've chosen to ignore reality for long enough to get here.",
"Personally, i don't mind whatever that price goes to if it means we are making significant improvements in the environment. It can go to $1200\n\nI do understand it's not that simple, some people's lives depend on it. But for the most part its about priority. Some prices may go up some luxuries may go down.. the world could become unlovable though, and what will prices matter then?",
"There's depth in this joke.",
"Its a copypasta, seen a different one in r/memes too, so i went checking the profile",
"Kinda looked like a small t Rex when it walked in, it's at least 10 ft tall",
"Yeah no, for real.",
"You know why dinosaurs can't talk?\n\n\nBecause they're all dead.",
"Imagine smoking your entire life but instead of getting lung cancer yourself, your great grandchildren are the ones who get it and have to deal with it, after you have been dead for years or maybe decades.\n\nBut you'll be dead so who cares, right? We should just enjoy life because future generations won't be able to!",
"And some people would comment about how only big chickens are scared of climate change.",
"Why not have a scientist do it?",
"We also have to do labor organizing. Obviously the problem is capitalism. It is the short term finacial interest of captial owners to do nothing about climate change. \n\nIt is just a fact. We need democracy at in our workplace. The rich don't care if we light our earth on fire.",
"I think the proper term is Plucked like a chicken",
"LOL, isnt this the government telling us that the government spends too much money on oil? Why are they telling us if they are the ones doing it?",
"You're right, I couldn't imagine that. Better to just destroy our planet",
"If only the un took action against the global corporations responsible for the majority pollution in the world :)",
"Thank you sir!",
"The problem is capitalism, we need democracy in the workplace",
"UN is a fucking joke!",
"Wait I’m in the us and you might not be. But if you are, are you suggesting the current indoctrination in the us from schools, media (tv, music, etc), and social media is not pushing this stuff?",
"yeah, now you getting it, fuck future generations.\nlife is built to be able to adapt to situations, like it has numerous times in the past.\nlife and humans will be able to adapt to any situation,\nand if a few species (including humans) go extinct along the way, big whoop, life that is left behind will find a way to fill the void of whatever is extinct.\nIf dinosaurs still existed on earth, humans would have never evolved, and so on.",
"I don't think there are any true socialist countries left, really. Some South American countries say they are but to my knowledge they are just authoritarian fronts. Though I don't know for sure.\n\nHowever [Democratic Socialism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism#21st_century#Europe) has proved to be quite successful and especially so the [Nordic Model](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model). There's nothing about the practices I could tell you more than what you can find there.",
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"So this is an ad for the un, they don’t even mention green alternatives to fossil fuel.",
"Big mistake giving people the option of\n\nNow or Never\n\nWe all know which option will be taken",
"Thanks for playing! I'm also honestly irritated that my honestly funny bit about political accords using physics terminology got nothing out of you. That shit was gold.\n\nAnd of course I'm not going to take you serious. You're an idiot on reddit crying about the US not caring about signing on to everyone's accords that do nothing. When you own the oceans you don't really need to ask permission or give up control to some toothless governing body.",
"Yep, it’s very possible to return the gains from carbon tax to the final consumers essentially making it such that they don’t pay more than they otherwise would.",
"Carbon pricing is [widely regarded](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-019-0474-0.epdf?author_access_token=tst1A-oZnQ8zUO18wGGPQdRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0Nfy3PIgvrwnNXQzIbXH8z1Wkqhm6g5NiMnxMk__ebsKxGQNB0hMf1Vpo-ZiNplSt5LeLyks-Q3sdrpBdfxxHvAfQylqqwqHxgEml7GEGOxaQ%3D%3D) as the single most impactful climate mitigation policy, and for [good reason](https://en-roads.climateinteractive.org/scenario.html?v=2.7.11). The [IPCC report](https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/sites/2/2018/12/SR15_TS_High_Res.pdf) also makes clear that pricing carbon is *necessary*.",
"They'd invite him to Dubai first.\n\nCan't be killing dinosaurs on foreign soil, that's giving away oil futures.",
"It's a common [misconception](https://www.reddit.com/r/Economics/wiki/faq_carbonpricing) that a carbon tax necessarily hurts the poor, but it turns out [it's trivially easy to design a carbon tax that doesn't](http://www.nber.org/papers/w6546). Simply returning the revenue as an equitable dividend to households would do the trick (though [even that may not be strictly necessary](https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/550691-economists-a-us-carbon-tax-would-be-progressive)):\n\n-http://www.nber.org/papers/w9152.pdf\n\n-http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0081648#s7\n\n-https://mpra.ub.uni-muenchen.de/65919/1/MPRA_paper_65919.pdf\n\n-https://11bup83sxdss1xze1i3lpol4-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Ummel-Impact-of-CCL-CFD-Policy-v1_4.pdf\n\n-https://energypolicy.columbia.edu/research/report/assessment-energy-innovation-and-carbon-dividend-act\n\n-https://www.econstor.eu/bitstream/10419/155615/1/cesifo1_wp6373.pdf\n\nThe reason is that the [Gini coefficient](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient) for carbon [is higher than the Gini coefficient for income](http://physics.umd.edu/~yakovenk/papers/2016.Motesharrei.NatSciRev.3.470.pdf). The truth is, [distributional neutrality is easier with a carbon tax than with a general consumption tax](http://www.nber.org/papers/w6546), and [a carbon tax alone may even me progressive](https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/550691-economists-a-us-carbon-tax-would-be-progressive). \n\nTL;DR: A carbon tax would be paid mostly by the rich. \n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Economics/wiki/faq_carbonpricing",
"Welcome to the NWO. You are responsible to change!Not the government. Not the UN. Not any corporation. It’s your fault the world is going through “climate change”. You must pay for what others have done. You will own nothing and you will be happy.",
"I'm onboard.\n\nBetter than the slow but total death of the entire species we are currently working on.",
"> You've built a perpetual energy machine friend.\n\nNo I haven't? \n\nA: plants and soil can capture carbon\n\nB: As you mentioned, renewable energy can be used to power those machines\n\nC: that isn't what a perpetual energy machine is",
"The UN ironically depicted as a dinosaur, trying to simplify the message, I’m guessing Barney wasn’t available?",
"I always assumed that all of David Lynch's movies were his dreams interpreted through film. Some of them more nightmares. Especially Eraserhead.",
"Thanks to researchers at MIT, you can compare nuclear to carbon taxes [here](https://en-roads.climateinteractive.org/scenario.html?v=2.7.11).",
"/r/cringe",
"I think most normal citizens are so out of touch with the political landscape, if you talked about subsidies at all, you'd be met with \"the fuck's a subsidy?\"",
"Better writing than any of the Jurassic World movies.",
"Funny, I was just discussing with my family tonight about how if a dinosaur extinction sized asteroid were aimed us, we'd probably nuke it into oblivion.",
"How to determine [who bears the burden of an excise tax](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlWCAdp6sys).\n\nEven so, [a U.S. carbon tax would be progressive](https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/550691-economists-a-us-carbon-tax-would-be-progressive).",
"I'm surprised by the amount of people dunking on this video. Feelsgoodman",
"Is fucking wild! This is something that I would expect in the movies \" UN message about going extinct and fighting back\". We are soooo fucked!",
"Arguably, [extinction](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O5S2Y4FhJ0&ab_channel=SolarSands) is one of the only ways to ensure the eradication of all human suffering.",
"Most regular people are probably either unaware or supportive of subsidizing oil. So if a consequence of this video is more people knowing about that, that's one step further. When more people know, that is more pressure they can put on politicians.",
"Very fitting.\n\nUsing a fabricated spokes-dinosaur.",
"Implying that a credit card system and China's Black Mirror esque social credit system are remotely similar <\n\n\nLmfao.. Fuck off stupid shill",
"Clever girl…",
"Cool, but I suggest you read True Stories by L. Razgon and watch all the footage of Azeri-Armenian 2020 war available on YouTube before you fully commit to the idea.\n\nWhen you launch a machine that converts excess people into labor output (a logical response to famine), it's hard to stop it. It's hungry, and before long it will eat your sleeve and pull you in. And the next guy at the lever might be not averse to leaving it going until it's out of fuel.",
"Surprised there wasn’t a joke about burning his family as fuel.",
"Great video. Doubt if it’ll actually make any change at the table though sady",
"Like real talk the only thing that's going to change the world is if it gets too dire they can't make money(which at that point it's too late) or if the world rebels and I mean really rebels takes up arms. I'm not advocating for an armed revolution, but it's seriously going to take one which if it's gets to that point it's again probably too late....",
"Wait, wait ... wait... Dinosaurs are fossil fuels and this dinosaur is trying to tell us not to use fossil fuels? Hol up. I think there's a conflict of interest here and I declare that we can't trust this. \n\n\nI'll look for my check in the mail Exxon",
"(Humanity is no where close to extinction due to climate change)",
"THEYRE THE ONES WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT",
"The Raptor Race from inner earth is redefining extinct with A [Climate Hoax](https://www.auricmedia.net/tag/the-climate-change-hoax/) the fictional irony is maddening. Not sure whats worse 1.) peeps dont know about the Raptoids in inner earth 2.) the climate hoax to coerce and manipulate 3.)the striving emotional appeal that is is paradoxically deceitfully achieved and simultaneously destroyed ( I’m an living breathing example of extinct) [doublethink] 4.) the sublte Plandemic shout out[which reeks of double think]. ( the vAccinated are protected from a virus unless of course they come across the unvaccinated, oh and the new booster is needed or else the vaccine you took which totally works ,must we remind you, save in the rare rare occurrence of the non vaccinated) i think i found a perfect example of the truth hurts",
"Uh yeah, we know. But it's you guys who have the power to fix it. I know this isn't actually the UN but if it was it'd be a video targeting themselves, telling themselves to stop being fkn stupid.",
"Ok great, now why doesn't the UN do something useful like actually fight climate change",
"While I agree with the handsome dinosaur, it all just seems so lost. Selfish old people end up with all the power and, because they are old, they make short-sighted decisions. They make selfish decisions. The kind of people who seek the kind of power that COULD enable change are usually the same people who end up leveraging that power to further themselves. It's what got them to that position in the first place by way of political Darwinism. I know being a hopeless pessimist isn't the answer. The only chance we have is that the old will die and we need to start voting for the young. My parents' generation had their shot and they fucked it all up. For the love of god, vote for people who believe in science and will back it up with action rather than empty promises. . . Vote for somebody who knows how to boot a computer and doesn't call Xbox a Nintendo. Vote for the handsome dinosaur. Vote for Vince the Velociraptor. He knows what it's like to lose everything, so he'll actually try not to fuck it up.",
"I don’t take advice from an organization that can’t do Jack about genocide",
"Demonstration needs to be followed by electoral consequences more often. Minneapolis City Council, for example, will probably re-elect exactly the same members as before, because even though the Greens have a foothold there they do nothing to back it up and threaten the other in incumbents.",
"They didn’t want to address the slave labor, genocide or Taiwan, but they felt the need to make a dinosaur yelling at us. Even if the dinosaur is right, I’m fine with humanity disappearing.",
"Because they want more control. They convinced the gullible people they are trying to do good by it's about controlling the indivudal.",
"We have been misled to believe that the problem is caused by individual actions. In reality it is caused by powerful companies trying to make short term profits at any cost. \n\nThe companies and powerful people are the ones who need drastic changes",
"You scare easy.",
"[Not as much you think](https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/550691-economists-a-us-carbon-tax-would-be-progressive). \n\nAnd depending on the proposal, [most people could actually come out ahead](http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0081648#s7).",
"You won’t hear an argument out of me from that one. \n\nIt drives me nuts seeming them being like your super echo car and heating your home is the problem when we have nestle stealing water from millions and using slave labor. Dublin donuts throwing away thousands of pounds of food a day. Etc.",
"Absolute trashy content being peddled here",
"And you think it is 'fighting poverty and helping the environment' that will do that?",
"Stupid propaganda",
"I was really hoping he would kill at least 3 of them.",
"I'm not sure why you've been downvoted. \n\nMIT researchers have [modeled the solutions](https://en-roads.climateinteractive.org/scenario.html?v=2.7.11) and you can see the impact nuclear has even at full deployment.",
"https://en-roads.climateinteractive.org/scenario.html?v=2.7.11\n\nhttps://www.pewresearch.org/science/2020/06/23/two-thirds-of-americans-think-government-should-do-more-on-climate/ps_2020-06-23_government-and-climate_00-01/",
"> Strongly worded letter\n\nI mean, that's generally the idea. Plus electing non shit representatives.",
"I feel like this is somehow also an add for the new Jurassic World",
"No suffering, no mass death, no Renaissance.\n\nWe need a reset. And honestly, what does it matter if the majority of 8 billion people die on this small rock circling round an indistinguishable star in this mediocre galaxy.\n\nThe ego-centric belief that humans are *'special'* because we have consciousness and digital watches is at least as destructive as the belief in unlimited growth in a finite environment.\n\nAs long as the *'right'* few people die along with the *'undeserving'* masses, our species may gain a few more undeserved decades.\n\nIf existence is the point, then that's got to count for something.",
"O….ok lol",
"The user you replied to is a copy-paste lobbyist spammer. Of course he wants to make it seem like the costs needs to be carried by the average Joe rather than big and dirty corporations.",
"\"Stop burning my people!\"",
"I shared it to Facebook.",
"Dear UN. \nDon't tell us the people that, a super majority really don't want to die/see their offspring die. \nTell our world leaders, the CEO's of the biggest corporations, the owners of the biggest and most polluting industries and so on, all this. Tell them to get their shit together or that the people will get their shit by force if necessary.",
"Carbon pricing is [widely regarded](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-019-0474-0.epdf?author_access_token=tst1A-oZnQ8zUO18wGGPQdRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0Nfy3PIgvrwnNXQzIbXH8z1Wkqhm6g5NiMnxMk__ebsKxGQNB0hMf1Vpo-ZiNplSt5LeLyks-Q3sdrpBdfxxHvAfQylqqwqHxgEml7GEGOxaQ%3D%3D) as the single most impactful climate mitigation policy, and for [good reason](https://en-roads.climateinteractive.org/scenario.html?v=2.7.11). The [IPCC report](https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/sites/2/2018/12/SR15_TS_High_Res.pdf) also makes clear that pricing carbon is *necessary*.",
"Technically it's that the dinosaur isn't feathered, but I appreciate that they went with the classic reptile look instead of NuScience Wimpy Feathered Nonsense.",
"Humans never met dinosaurs, so for all we know, they invented English.",
"So true but ain't nobody gonna do a thing about cause you know humans are the worst animal on the planet",
"Probably not very effective, but I certainly enjoyed it.",
"[My counter argument ](https://www.auricmedia.net/tag/the-climate-change-hoax/)",
">Maybe I'm too cynical IDK.\n\nI mean, kids have been seeing this kind of targeted advertising for the past 30+ years regarding climate change and there's not much that can be done. Finishing the vegies on your plate and turning the lights on behind you can only do so much.\n\nIt's even worse as an adult when you realize that it's a desperate cry for help for something to be done when any immediately viable solution can't even make it to the pipe, let alone make it past decades of backed up political and economic sewage.",
"What a mistake to not equip these people with actual power.\n\nThe UN was a failed thought.",
"I disagree, human extinction is the best possible thing that could happen.",
"Andrew Yang has started the Forward Party, based on pragmatism.",
"I think electric vehicles will continue to grow in popularity as we increase the number of charging stations and as they get more and more efficient/affordable. We just haven't reached that point yet.",
"They seem to have found the fountain of youth as well.",
"I have to admit, this was cringe",
"We are all the corporations on this blessed day.",
"Trumptards",
"The power of the un veto means most issues they’d start a war over are resolved without conflict.",
"'you humans' fuck off. The people causing this 100% ain't human in my eyes. Lower than bacteria scum.",
"I fucking knew it",
"Anyone think it's weird that it's a dinosaur rather than one of the 99% of scientist that agree with climate change making this argument?",
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sample_size_determination#Required_sample_sizes_for_hypothesis_tests",
"Reptilians...",
"**Sample size determination** \n \n [Required sample sizes for hypothesis tests](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sample_size_determination#Required_sample_sizes_for_hypothesis_tests) \n \n >A common problem faced by statisticians is calculating the sample size required to yield a certain power for a test, given a predetermined Type I error rate α.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)",
"Shit won’t help.",
"to be fair there is a scary dinosaur in the video",
"1. [**Vote**](https://www.environmentalvoter.org/sign-the-pledge), in *[every](https://www.vote.org/election-reminders/)* election. People who prioritize climate change and the environment [have historically not been very reliable voters, which explains much of the lackadaisical response of lawmakers](https://www.environmentalvoter.org/news/millions-environmentalists-are-registered-vote-us-dont-what-if-they-did), and many Americans don't realize we should be voting (on average) [in 3-4 elections per year](https://www.environmentalvoter.org/news/millions-environmentalists-are-registered-vote-us-dont-what-if-they-did). In 2018 in the U.S., the percentage of voters prioritizing the environment [more than tripled](https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/green/A-Green-Wave-Signs-Point-to-Voters-Demanding-Action-on-Climate-Change-502796391.html), and then [climate change became a priority issue](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_New_Deal) for lawmakers. Even if you don't like any of the candidates or live in a 'safe' district, [**whether or not you vote is a matter of public record**](https://washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/april-may-june-2018/planet-earth-gets-a-ground-game/), and **[it's fairly easy to figure out if you care about the environment or climate change](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCL1luiOM7U&t=2m53s)**. Politicians [use this information](https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1468-2508.2005.00357.x) to prioritize agendas. Voting in every election, even the minor ones, [will raise the profile and power of your values](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCL1luiOM7U&t=2m53s). If you don't [vote](https://voteclimatepac.org/voters-guide/), you and your values can safely be ignored.\n\n2. [**Lobby**](https://citizensclimatelobby.org/join-citizens-climate-lobby/?tfa_3590416195188=online-002&utm_source=online&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=002), at *every* [lever of political will](https://citizensclimatelobby.org/about-ccl/levers-of-political-will/). [Lobbying works](https://sociology.stanford.edu/sites/default/files/publications/friends_or_foes-how_social_movement_allies_affect_the_passage_of_legislation_in_the_u._s._congress.pdf), and you [don't need a lot of money to be effective](http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.1016.1967&rep=rep1&type=pdf) (though it does help to [educate yourself on effective tactics](http://www.congressfoundation.org/storage/documents/CMF_Pubs/cmf-citizen-centric-advocacy.pdf)). Becoming an active volunteer with [this group](https://citizensclimatelobby.org/join-citizens-climate-lobby/?tfa_3590416195188=online-002&utm_source=online&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=002) is the [most important thing an individual can do on climate change](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4DAW1A6Ca8), according to NASA climatologist [James Hansen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hansen). If you're too busy to go through the [free training](https://citizensclimatelobby.org/new-member/#climateadvocatetraining), sign up for [text alerts](https://citizensclimatelobby.org/text/) to join coordinated call-in days ([it works](http://www.congressfoundation.org/storage/documents/CMF_Pubs/cmf-citizen-centric-advocacy.pdf), if you *actually call*) or set yourself a monthly reminder to [write a letter](https://www.ted.com/talks/omar_ahmad_political_change_with_pen_and_paper?language=en) to your elected officials.\n\n3. [**Recruit**](https://community.citizensclimatelobby.org/learn/communications/), *across the political spectrum*. Most of us are [either alarmed or concerned](https://climatecommunication.yale.edu/publications/for-the-first-time-the-alarmed-are-now-the-largest-of-global-warmings-six-americas/) about climate change, yet most aren't taking [the necessary steps](http://www.congressfoundation.org/storage/documents/CMF_Pubs/cmf-citizen-centric-advocacy.pdf) to solve the problem -- the [most common reason](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6DoiQM_-is) is that no one asked. If all of us who are ['very worried'](https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2019/03/21/worries-priorities-and-potential-problem-solvers/) about climate change organized we would be >26x more powerful than the NRA. According to [Yale data](http://climatecommunication.yale.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Global-Warming-Policy-Politics-May-2017.pdf), many of your friends and family would welcome the opportunity to get involved if you just asked. So please [volunteer](https://www.environmentalvoter.org/get-involved) or [donate](https://www.environmentalvoter.org/donate) to [turn out environmental voters](https://www.environmentalvoter.org/sites/default/files/documents/annual-report-2019-2020.pdf), and invite your friends and family to [lobby Congress](https://citizensclimatelobby.org/join-citizens-climate-lobby/?tfa_3590416195188=online-002&utm_source=online&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=002).\n\n4. [**Fix the system**](https://electionscience.org/take-action/volunteer/). [Scientists blame hyperpolarization for loss of public trust in science](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nobel-prize-usa/respect-for-science-in-jeopardy-in-polarized-u-s-nobel-winners-say-idUSKCN1C81T7), and [Approval Voting](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Approval_voting), a [single-winner voting method preferred by experts in voting methods](http://www.votefair.org/bansinglemarkballots/declaration.html), would [help to reduce hyperpolarization](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Approval_voting#Effect_on_elections). There's even [a viable plan to get it adopted](https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/aaron-hamlin-voting-reform/), and [an organization that could use some gritty volunteers](https://www.electionscience.org/) to get the job done. They're already off to a great start with [Approval Voting having passed by a landslide in Fargo](https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2018/11/15/18092206/midterm-elections-vote-fargo-approval-voting-ranked-choice), and more recently [St. Louis](https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-primary-elections-st-louis-general-elections-elections-cba7eb3251d5479b9375d55db428d429). Most people haven't heard of Approval Voting, but seem to like it once they understand it, so anything you can do to help get the word out will help. And if you live in a [Home Rule state](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_rule_in_the_United_States), consider [starting a campaign](https://www.electionscience.org/commentary-analysis/so-you-want-to-run-a-campaign/) to get your municipality to adopt Approval Voting. The successful Fargo campaign was [run by a full-time programmer with a family at home](https://www.electionscience.org/events/fargo-a-look-back-live-discussion/). One person really can make a difference. Municipalities first, states next.",
"The grim reality is, despite how awful they may taste, we do need to eat the rich if we want change. \n\nThey are okay with people dying. They will not let go of their dollar bill until it's that or their life. No-one wants a french revolution, but sometimes, when the world leaders want it like that, it's the only way. \n\nAnd look at the french now. They're doing pretty good!",
"I think a more nuanced take would be if straws *were* a major problem, and they were strictly useful for drinking soda to avoid tooth issues, then perhaps drink less soda. In the context of reducing the Pacific plastic waste patch (that's twice the size of Texas) I think it's more then fair to reduce your soda consumption or straw use if it stops shit like that. I don't know if it does, but in that context I think it's fair at least. Life may be short for you but it hopefully won't be for the whole planet.",
"> [The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any.](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qhx603/the_united_nations_just_released_this_psa/hiies0q/)\n\n-[Alice Walker](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Alice_Walker)",
"Yep, it's a very difficult problem to navigate politically.",
"Well great if there is at least something that works. What I meant is it's in the hand of a few powerful people and other representatives democratically elected but there is no sign of them wanting to change things, at least not radically.",
"r/steroids",
"Just [don't stop at voting](https://citizensclimatelobby.org/join-citizens-climate-lobby/?tfa_3590416195188=online-002&utm_source=online&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=002).",
"Or a mix of nuclear, solar, wind and other more environmentally friendly energy sources depending on what's the most sensible in each location. None of those are the perfect solution by themselves, but still better than fossil fuels.",
"I'm going to go out on a limb and suppose this did not involve the efforts of the whole UN, and that they did other things in the mean time.",
"[Did anyone else's brain automatically jump to this scene in Idiocracy?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IieuC0IflkE)",
"> China: 13% with 18% of the world population.\n\nThe fact you trust China and it’s track record with lying about their numbers tells me *exactly* why you would also believe this plan could work without retaliation. Retaliation from the people, retaliation from China (and not the kind you just described) and the entire thing would collapse almost immediately.\n\nIt is *pure* delusion on so many different levels..it would *never* work.\n\nI would love to see it attempted though, just so people like yourself can learn the hard way and join the rest of us living in reality.",
"https://citizensclimatelobby.org/household-impact-study/",
"You should watch \"Sleepwalk With Me\". It has many Mike Birbiglia sleepwalking dreams.",
"This must have been pre-COVID. That raptor isn’t wearing a mask and I know it’s not vaccinated cause it’s age range (1,000-100 million) hasn’t received the green light for their vaccine distribution…",
"> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any. \n\n-[Alice Walker](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Alice_Walker)\n\nIt's in [our hands](https://np.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/qhmgir/does_congress_listen_correlation_between_house/), too.",
"yo united nations. you know who the idiot is, that can change something? not me. it's you and your corrupted stooges. go, do it yourself un.",
"You know there's people that independently calculates and verifies these numbers right? It seems you haven't studied the subject at all.\n\nSo, how would redistributive carbon taxes substantially decrease quality of life of the average US citizen?",
"But he didn't really. Like, all of science uses subsets of a population. It's not like entomologists measured every beetle on Earth, either.",
"Nah dude fuck off, she has a great point. You understand environmentalists push for things like the straw ban in the first place right? how would those same people get pissed by the inconveniance? Huge swaths of people are riding bikes or using electric vehicles to avoid using gas at all. If you met one or two people that believe gas should be cheap but we should also stop using it... Those people are idiots who are completely out of the norm. People who are barely scraping by may need gas to stay low, but thats not an environmental thing thats just being broke. Sorry if I missed anything but what even is your point again? All environmentalists are.. hypocrites or something? Fuck off, you are the \"spastic\" one you (most likely European) cunt. Stepping aside from being an asshole, Europeans use spastic similar to retarded right? In the US that just means like.. twitchy. Have a good day ya dick head.",
"They have been wrong, it's my understanding that we've been *underestimating* the impact... :(",
">Whats the alternative.\n\nNo alternative. Shit, if we can't even give up such a minor comfort as a straw without whining for a readily available alternative, we must not be able to give up anything at all.",
"Yo I might be high as fuck but I think we are gonna go extinction",
"Humans aren't worth saving",
"Is that Jack black?",
"I mean....England has that coming. When you oppress a country don't be surprised if that country hates you right back. Hence why we have so many countries creating terrorists against the US.\n\nThe US keeps invading and murdering people in their lands, creating terrorists, endless war on terror fueling the military industrial complex. Done.",
"Jack Black = Lizard people confirmed.",
"That guy works in a building thats essentially a monument to wastefulness, while serving cancer causing poison to people for the explicit purpose of making them less likely to resist getting addicted to losing their money.",
"Vote? Lol. Do yourself a favour and look at the donations and speaking fee’s these people get each year that you vote for. Voting does nothing. The rich rule the world and the rich govern the rich. Nothing can change it at this point. Rich are just living our their lives because the world won’t be ruined before they die and it’s no longer a concern for them.",
"They really just \"and then everyone clapped\" that, huh.",
"Cause of nukes. Let's be honest.",
"Yes, I agree. Is there anything I can do besides protesting and voting? Not really. I eat local, garden/compost, recycle, drive as little as possible and still it won't make a dent. So yeah, unless politicians told huge corporations accountable we're fucked.",
"The US was also the only country to vote against including food as a human right in the UN charter. Some abstained but only the US said no.",
"It doesn't help that if your country does something to help, you'll have trouble competing with the countries that don't help. It's one thing for gas to be more expensive, but it's another thing entirely if your countries whole economy suffers because India and China keep burning cheap coal.",
">this is drenched with \"i will make this video to feel like I've made a difference while actually making no difference at all\"\n\nWelcome to the advertising world!",
"You don't seem to understand that the actual purpose of the UN is to divide the world up between the 5 great global empires at the time of its creation.",
"> And honestly, what does it matter if the majority of 8 billion people die\n\nWell, you can kiss your combined knowledge goodbye. Culture, science, technology, all that will be gone or be actively destroyed. Seriously, read the book. Any tremendous hardship that sees people starve and die of destitution always sees the most beneficial individuals die first, and the worst of society turn out to be best-equipped to draw their lives out to the other side. \n\nSeriously, read the book. The labor camps are a microcosm of our society, as people were sent there almost at random. Every virtue was exploited and its carrier maligned for being \"weak\", while every bit of wickedness was rewarded if not with power, then with living another day to take yet more from others. Take Nazino island. The teachers who thought too liberally of the rigid Bolshevik doctrine, the scientists researching fields that were deemed by ignorant leadership to be \"ideologically undesirable\", the Jews, the randomly-arrested people were preyed upon by felons and hardened criminals, who would rip golden teeth out of their mouths and throw them to passing barges (with yet more \"settlers\") in exchange for food and clothing, or cut off their breasts and calves to eat. This isn't in the book BTW, the book is more about Far North and eating moss to survive the trip to another camp. There was nobody alive and sane to write about Nazino from the inside. The reason we know about that at all is because the head of camps had to explain wasting manpower and construction materials, and someone dug up his interrogation protocol.\n\nThese kinds of people are who make the most of a true catastrophe, and if these are the kinds of people to survive and thrive, I think we're better off just dying altogether. \n\n>We need a reset.\n\nThere's no reset, as there's no time machine. If we spill beer on our laptop and take a chance on it still working after it dries, and it does turn on, this doesn't mean we've made a reset, it means we've almost broken the laptop and got incredibly lucky. It still smells, there's still beer inside and it will probably break faster than it would if we haven't done that.\n\n>The ego-centric belief that humans are 'special' because we have consciousness and digital watches is at least as destructive as the belief in unlimited growth in a finite environment.\n\nThe belief is that we're special because we can think out our actions and envision our future. Space travel is kinda cool too, arguably it makes us the closest species ever to propagating life off-world.\n\n>As long as the 'right' few people die along with the 'undeserving' masses, our species may gain a few more undeserved decades.\n\nThe problem is that the masses contain more than a few \"right\" people and the undeserving few (scientists, engineers, teachers, artists) are what our species relies on for survival and progress. When USSR exterminated these people, it only entrenched the parasitic elite's grip on society. Sure, whole generations of elite have died (Razgon was initially imprisoned for attending the Congress of Soviets - the most important assembly of all ruling Party elite from across the Union - all the other attendees were executed and he only survived because he was there as a journalist and not as a lawmaker), but the next elite, more inept and less shrewd, has taken over and lost none of the brutality while losing the few inklings of initiative, adaptability and conscience that they did possess, and when this elite died off, there was nobody left to take helm and the country collapsed. Elites are dime a dozen! You can kill them your whole life and they'll keep popping up, one worse than the other. \n\nBut the thinkers? They are few and fragile. Lose them and you'll be stuck stealing tech from USA forever. But if there's no West to steal know-how from, and you lost your intellectuals to violence, starvation and lack of services, then you're proper fucked. You will still have the brutal government, except without a hope for improvement and without knowledge that life can be different. \n\n>If existence is the point, then that's got to count for something.\n\nWell, we still have the problem of heat death to solve or there's indeed no point.",
"Ah yes, because “independent studies” surely can capture the full corruption happening within that country..again, your naivety is showing. And this isn’t even considering what happens to people who report negative information within China. It does not end well for them..hell, even *google* has bowed to China with censoring search results.\n\n I don’t think you understand how bad it’s gotten.",
"Extinction is the rule, survival is the exception.",
"Doesn't drink coffee though.",
"That dinosaur's name? Albert Einstein",
"It’s the only way to get them to empathize with humans.",
"> All environmentalists are.. hypocrites or something?\n\nConsidering I consider myself one I sure hope you. I am going to just copy/paste my previous comment.\n\nNo. What? Do you want me to give specific examples from my life? Lmfao your entire comment is based off of the assumption that these people do exist when I have had first hand experience with them. You are a spastic, move along.\n\n> most likely European\n\nNo lmfao. Nice paragraph.",
"You're right, it's a very difficult global coordination problem. Once we establish our own carbon tax we'd at least have the necessary moral high ground to begin pressuring other countries to do the same.",
"Like the Space Pope?",
"Ad confirms the conspiracy that covid was/is an attempt by the global elite to try and \"reset\" the world economy with things like the Green New Deal. Lol.",
"Whatever gets the blame off of me!",
"O ok let me call joe manchin right away",
"It's really good. I think my favorite part was the Jet Fuel.",
"Oh look, an actual delusional person",
"Says who?",
"It also eliminates all human happiness. Flawless antinatalism argument.",
"lame",
"Nestle CEO. “I was watching YouTube and saw this wild clip about a Velociraptor that was saying how we were essentially investing in the earths destruction; that hundreds of thousands die each year due to poverty.”\n\n“Oh.. I must say I’m surprised to hear this from you sir. Does that mean…”\n\n“Yeah. I think if we set aside enough funds each year, and with the right investments into the scientific community…”\n\n“It would save so many lives sir, this is fantastic-“\n\n“WOAH WOAH. Save lives?! Fuck that, I’m making Jurassic Park. Smack dab In the Amazon. We can take so much of their water if we offer cheap labour. It’s time we really tap into the tourism market there. Dinosaurs are making a comeback and I want on the ground floor! Best idea I’ve ever had.”",
"Oh look, an actual delusional person",
"I just liked Regan in general \n\n“Remember to do your time cards! TIME CARDS!!!”",
"Yeah that's my point. If we're the people literally campaigning for these things we're not going to complain when we get what we wanted. Anybody who does is fringe at best, and like you said, an idiot who isn't representative of anyone but themselves.\n\nAlso fyi I'm a she, but no worries, it happens a lot on the net.",
"_\"We did it boys, global warming is no more.\"_",
"Australia's media and government are owned by the mining industry. We're choosing extinction down here and there's no way back",
"We have satelites monitoring territorial emissions. You can't fake that data. Hell, we caught China using CFCs a few years ago and stopped them promptly.",
"Nah I don't doubt you met someone that meets that description, I doubt that it's at all the norm. Which is how your comment read. I've met pot heads that think pot should be illegal, If I said \"pot heads want pot to be illegal\" I would still sound like an idiot. Which is how you sound you *spastic*.",
"They already have their excuses ready. They will say that historically western countries have already release 'such and such' amount of carbon, and that it is racist to force them to reduce their carbon while they're still building up their industry.",
"Ah you bastard. It was right there.",
"\"They don't share my global geopolitical views!! REEEE\"\n\nImagine just now realizing that the vast majority of the world doesn't actually agree with you bud",
"You are a great example of cognitive dissonance.",
"Do you agree with China in general? You have NO IDEA what I am talking about, aren't you?",
" Scovid from marketing needs to see this. The VFX department has more of a plan than what was released to the Australian public",
"yes, This unrelenting hatred isnt healthy. Please dont tell me you suffer from the same.",
"Single use plastics aren't a problem with climate change, the carbon they're made of is relatively secure and \"Captured\". They suck because pollution is gross and shameful in its own right",
"what did I lose? Who won something?",
"To be a bit cynical if we invest into helping poorer countries wouldn’t we just push them into an industrial revolution and cause them to be the next Britain then USA then China and India? \n\nHistory has proven that the path to posterity goes through industrialization through very bad means on the environment. \n\nI’m far from educated or know the true path but I think there’s more to it then “stop oil feed Africa” to help climate change.",
"I'm hoping that one day normal people can build and run carbon capture devices like this open source machine: https://openaircollective.cc/violet\n\nBut that's complex and difficult, so for the less technologically inclined you could plant trees, lots of trees, I mean literally hundreds of trees per person.\n\nThese people telling you to yell at people are wrong. Yelling at people on the streets won't do shit. We need to get our hands dirty and do the work.\n\nThe government should set aside some public land as new forests, and it'd be nice if normal people could come from all across the country and help plant the trees and tend to the saplings while they grow.\n\nHonestly I'm pissed off at all these armchair activists that think they talk their way into fixing this problem.",
"A goal without action is a dream",
"Please note that we don't know what dinosaurs looked like. They might have had feathers (we are sure of some), they might have been colorful and they might have been more puffy and meaty.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/xaQJbozY_Is",
"I think Germany may have done more international destruction and possibly oppressed some people?\n\n\nAgain I’m not saying America has the moral high ground on everything but this hot take that America is the root of all evil in the world is fucking laughable",
"I don't understand who this was aimed at. Do the people in charge of all of this need a CGI dinosaur to tell them this stuff? If so, we are in some deeper shit than I could have ever imagined.",
"> people who cant do anything and are scraping by in life. \n\nBan subsidies and see how the people scraping buy cope then.",
"Shit made me cry a little",
"https://dontchooseextinction.com/en/excuses/fossil-fuel-companies-are-too-powerful/\nWe shouldn't give up because we feel powerless, we need to find a way to make change. It won't be easy. 😞",
"I actually lost it when they were casting for WWIII where the US is the bad guy.",
"Glory to the new world! Death to the old and all who don’t comply",
"Truth is stranger than fiction. The existence of this phrase carries a ton of weight. What is delusional exactly about this comment?",
"Literally translates to 'Terrible lizard'\n\nFtfy",
"Best comment from YouTube:\n\n> The people who don't have the power to change things already know this message, and the ones who do? They already ignore it. Cute video though.",
"Birds are dinosaurs.\n\nThe dinosaur in this video went extinct before the meteor hit.\n\nThe ocean is full of dinosaurs.",
"Human extinction can’t come soon enough",
"Ok great concept UN, we completely agree. Now start with China.",
"They may take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom!!!!",
"Boomer humor at it's finest.",
"I wish, they might actually care about the world if that was the case...",
"Conspiracy theorists: the world is run by lizard people\n\nThe UN: Conspiracy theories are dangerous\n\nAlso the UN: Let’s have an animated lizard address the UN",
"Yes, clearly a YouTube video of a dinosaur saying “Extinction is bad” will change the minds of people who currently disagree on the scope and severity of anthropogenic climate change! /s",
"I really like that the one example given was fossil fuel subsidies and not something small like recycling at home. I’m not saying we shouldn’t recycle, but the burden of climate change prevention fall on the average Joe.",
"Literally all we need is a larger democratic majority. Their climate platform is already very progressive.",
"Just to be sane… the government tells people to obey rules and breaks the rules themselves. The UN has watched more genocides and war crimes happen then attempted to save. And cooperations are the biggest polluters out there and spend millions on tv advertising rather than cleaning or better environment practices",
"Stop funding the military industrial complex too",
"Per the headline it's supposed to be a Utahraptor",
"Oh look a delusional person!",
"How do you target those leaders? Who elects those leaders?",
"I worked on this job. It had a relatively tiny budget, as it's seen as a PSA within the industry. The total budget would be an irrelevant amount of money when talking about hungry children worldwide.",
"Really hope this show gains more traction. Expected it to suck ass but genuinely enjoyed it",
"time for the reptoid orgy!",
"We've had the basic facts for at least 50 years and there's still anti-scientific bullshit. It's not stupid commercials like this' fault. People believe in whatever stupid anti-scientific bullshit they want that suits their needs. It's what brains are best at - doing whatever they want in the moment and justifying it afterwards.",
"> getting reelected in 2024\n\nHe won’t get re-elected. \n\nBut he *will* have a much better organized coup in 2024 after four years of the FSB and other competent people who will benefit from his presidency planning it.",
"Can we all just acknowledge that the UN is the most useless waste is money. They don’t help prevent shit, the enslavement of Muslims in China, the massacres in Africa and Southeast Asia",
"*MORE DUNKEY*",
"They would if we gave them power to do something about it.",
"r/collapze material",
"That first person who stood up and clapped at the end looked like they would have been the first one up and clapping regardless of what the dino said. They were like, \"I for one welcome our dinosaur overlords\"",
"u/savevideobot",
"I wish this video was exactly the same, but that it ate someone on the way out Jurassic park style",
"the members are supposed to represent the will of their countries and i have seen almost nil of countries actually trying to do what they say they want",
"> Nah I don't doubt you met someone that meets that description, I doubt that it's at all the norm\n\nI never said it was the norm you sperg. \n\n> Which is how your comment read. \n\nNo, it really isn't. There was actually nothing to indicate it was the norm - I even mentioned \"specific people\".\n\n> Which is how you sound you spastic.\n\nBecause you made a baseless assumption. Mate you are literally trying to argue with a fact. Move along.",
"Or more likely, the current generation will continue to fuck up like all previous ones and then future generations will blame them. The cycle continues.",
"The SS Atlas Shrugged \n\n“This is the ship that made Bernie Sanders vomit on live TV!”",
"Trying to get the people of the world to convince their leaders who sit in the UN general assembly to act responsibly. Which seems like a slightly roundabout way of doing things.",
"I don't really get the idea on this thread this sort of shit is supposed to be geared towards the elite, its designed to be viewed by everyone and its a fun enough concept to be appropriate for all age groups. I thought it was one of the better PSAs like this personally.",
"It’s like you don’t even know.\n\nBirds aren’t real",
"Judging by the all the comments I've read about the topic of climate change the average person thinks they have no power and can do nothing about the situation. So those in power have really succeeded in teaching people to accept the idea that they are insignificant. Learned helplessness of the masses will be the reason nothing changes.",
"The general public. They used a simple visual analogy to get a point across.",
"You'll never see valid action if you have an entire generation of young kids grow up hearing the Fox-Republican propaganda that Climate change doesnt exist, or its cyclical or it exists but its not our fault or it exists and its our fault but its not that big of a deal.\n\nIt's important that everyone who isn't a dinosaur hears this message and internalizes it. Without out that who is going to pressure greedy assholes to not fuck over the entire world to create value for the shareholders.",
"Clever girl",
"I also highly question if the people they met were *actually* enviornmentalists at all, or just average neutral people who agree with basic premises like, \"Taking care of the earth is probably good\" and have never done a single bit of activism or campaigning in their life.",
"Don't worry, \"meme culture\" will save us.\n\nGod, we really are fucked.",
"Weird... im watching that episode right now",
"Fuck this is dumb",
"Videos like this are meant to inform the populace. Reach enough people and the politicians that do those things will stop getting voted into office. This one single video by itself won't do that, but do it enough times and eventually you'll get there. That's how public opinion changes over time. That's how politics shift over time.",
"\"Master Chief, prepare this meal!\"\n\n\"Yes, sir. I need a recipe.\"\n\n\"Right this way.\"",
"The UN, the outdated organization who likes to talk the talk, but won't walk the walk. Lots of countries actually push people to the UN as punishment. \n\nYou ain't going to get changes with half ass measures. \n\nThe only thing that is going to happen is the first war is about to happen between India and China and no one has a fucking clue about it in the news. You know all those big ass rivers that go through India? Yah, China about to divert those, and the U.N ain't doing shit, because china does what china wants.",
"100% agree with this message, but small side note:\n\n>It doesn't happen on it's own.\n\nIt doesn't happen on its* own (you don't want the apostrophe in this context)",
"People’s kids. They need to make people worry that they are going to leave their kids a damaged and unstable world.",
"So Toys could have been Ostriches? You just ruined my childhood.",
"People who already agree with them.",
"> I don't know about the rest of the world, but I don't think the average American is willing to give up their cars and their fast food and their trinkets. We've engineered a whole society of people who willingly pay to be poisoned.\n\nAnd so you think this is going to change by some ground swell of individual altruism?\n\n> The only thing that might persuade them to do away with this garbage is if it becomes unprofitable. \n\nOK, how do we make this unprofitable? Please don't say \"ground swell of individual altruism.\"\n\n> how are non-Americans supposed to vote?\n\nOther countries vote... and have representation.\n\n> We've engineered a whole society of people who willingly pay to be poisoned.\n\nTotally agree. Solutions? None? Just brow-beating because you're afraid to be duped by a politician?\n\nI get why you've given up. I really do. But that's not going to help things any more than what's already not helping.\n\nHoping everyone in the whole world just decides to \"vote with their dollar\" - which is strange that you immediately assumed it wasn't included in the original \"vote\" comment - is just as foolish as the rest of your complaints.\n\nHold your breath and see if most of humanity barely scraping by will go research every product and company they purchase from. You looked at a broken, ineffective system and suggested that we use an even more broken, completely impossible disorganized approach instead.\n\nIt's a cyclical problem. You giving up on human organization increases the very failures and corruption that makes people give up on human organization.\n\n> Who am I supposed to vote for in this situation?\n\nTry starting with people who don't pretend climate change is a hoax.",
"Yeah, but it sounds nice and edgy.",
"How would people be able to keep flying as much as they want? You can't power an aircraft with nuclear power. And air travel is a major contributor to pollution and global warming. Seems to me that we need to fly less.",
"Doesn't change that 1) the group wouldn't speak for all economists when that was never the original sample and 2) the response was NOT support for carbon taxes only, but market solutions in general which might not include carbon taxes for everyone (and the only other choice was changing performance standards).",
"I mean, the message is not wrong.",
"For nearly 20 years, 2000-2020, we heard \"climate alarmist\" coming from conservative government officials and media over and over. It was the boilerplate response. Don't really hear it said that much any more. Wonder why?\n\nFrom 2017 study, and events have accelerated since this study.\n\n[https://scripps.ucsd.edu/news/new-climate-risk-classification-created-account-potential-existential-threats](https://scripps.ucsd.edu/news/new-climate-risk-classification-created-account-potential-existential-threats)\n\n\"A new study evaluating models of future climate scenarios has led to the creation of the new risk categories “catastrophic” and “unknown” to characterize the range of threats posed by rapid global warming. **Researchers propose that unknown risks imply existential threats to the survival of humanity.**\"",
"Heh, good catch, I tend to lose that kind of training, been reading and writing too little in english, not my primary language.",
"They weren't reptiles though. They where their own class. Warm blooded and feathers. Like birds but not quite birds.",
"All for stopping oil subsidies. All for stopping _all_ subsidies since those just make things that aren't cheap appear to be cheap.\n\nBut the \"other things we could do with that money\" dream should #1 be to not take it away from the people in the first place.",
"You're right. With 100% democrat control we'd likely address about 80% of the issue. As it stands with a slight majority they're looking at addressing 30-40%.\n\nSome people care. Just because those people aren't literally gods doesn't mean you shouldn't support people who care. That's who you should be voting for, and why they need your vote - BECAUSE other people DON'T care.\n\nIt seems thankless and fruitless but giving up is worse.",
"\"Believe the science!\"\n\n-The people who got their reference for what dinosaurs look like from a Spielberg movie with rubber suits",
"Just for the sake of argument, I could see it swaying younger people and helping some break out of their partisan prisons. I don't think it's very effective but I'm not sure you or I know what would be.",
"Are you trying to say that China is in the equivalent of our industrial revolution? \n\n&#x200B;\n\nChina is a modern country and doesn't deserve any slack.",
"Now do one with Rex from Toy Story!",
"Blaming each other is a big reason nothing is getting done.",
"Everyone is so cynical here. We NEED more messages like this. Simple, straight-forward PSAs you can show your kids, grandma, illiterate cousins, whatever.\n\nMost people with an education understand our lives are about to be dominated by climate change, but we're still not pulling together.\n\nWe need massive engagement, we need to make this the dominant conversation in the public sphere. Nobody is going to find political willpower unless it's in their voting interest. So share share share and more of this please.",
"From Sha Na Na?",
"> Then, only 75% of that responded favorably\n\nSo the majority.\n\n> There was no direct response about a carbon tax, merely a response that could encompass a carbon tax, and it was only 81% that responded that way from the third of all people selected that responded at all, who are supposed to represent not only all climate economists, but all economists?\n\nYeah, it was a good sample size. How many economists do you think there are? The fact that a solid majority of then support a solution like a carbon tax shows his point pretty well. \n\n> And don't forget “it's the smart thing to do” which links to a 99 study using data from the 90s that assumes economic trends will remain static\n\nOh so you just didn't open the link and read anything. First off, dismissing a study because it was made in the 90s is fallacious reasoning given the idea still holds. Are we going to dismiss the existence of gravity because it was discovered before the 90s too? Second, calling it non-representative is kind of mind boggling considering that the US doesn't have a carbon tax at all. \n\nIt sounds like the issue isn't the links, but rather your reading comprehension.",
"Is that Jack Black?",
"Jack Blacktor.",
"Or bird-brains",
"Shhhh you'll wake the sheeple",
"It’s a psa...to themselves? This was a really stupid idea",
" +1 for the conspiracy theorists. The pandemic being a pretext to restructure the entire economy. Wonder if they'll be right about climate lockdowns too.",
"So this is what we're going to have instead of actual action on climate change?! We're fucked.",
"That talking animal is fictional and is clearly intended to be understood as fictional. It is not meant to serve as an accurate depiction of any actual animal, because that is not the point of message.",
"By definition an irrational actor isn't taking into consideration the costs of benefits related to nukes.",
"Hey they turned Ted Lasso into a hit series from an ad, it's time to give this Utahraptor a shot too.",
"OH EM GEE GUYS IF WE JUST SWITCH TO A NEW ECONOMIC SYSTEM THE WORLD WILL LITERALLY\nBE SAVED FOR ETERNITY, SOCIALISM WILL INSTANTLY DROP THE TEMPS 4C AND ELIMINATE FOSSIL FUELS",
"And the fact that the reason its much less than the west’s pollution during the industrial revolution is cuz they have invested in renewable energy",
"Sorry do you expect me to be on reddit 24/7? Kind of outing yourself, bud. Regardless, the response was bunk.",
"Look, I know reading is hard sometimes, but “especially” does not mean “exclusively.” If it meant “exclusively biased or misleading,” it would have said so.",
"It was a representative sample. The fact that there were some non-responses doesn't change that. And point 2 is just irrelevant.",
"If I want people to take my stance on civil rights seriously I'm not doing a speech in blackface",
"Reread the context buddy, the comment you replied to, the one you agreed with. It was about huge amounts of environmentalists bitching about actual change. Not the two people you know, \"huge amounts\". You were referring to it as a norm. I don't mind disagreements but at least align with the facts here buddy. I'll even stop insulting you because that seems like a cornerstone of how you communicate.",
"The USA emitted 5.1 billion tonnes of CO2 in 2019. China emitted 10 billion. \n\nHowever USA also has a population less than a quarter the size of china. So going by population the west does pollute more",
"It doesn't seem like they do. You gotta chill my man, just because Trump turned out to be a worthless joke (I was genuinely hoping for a reduction in spending and the deficit, too) doesn't mean you need to take it personally. You're not Trump. There are thousands - maybe millions of people better suited to representing you and me. Let's focus on the future and use the past to inform our decisions so we don't make the same mistakes.",
"Why can't I crosspost this to /r/cringe ?",
"Control isn't an end goal, control to do what? Seems to me they want control to reduce fossil fuel usage and reduce pollution and ecological disaster. Which... duh.\n\nYeah, that's what I thought. You know you're full of shit but too chickenshit to say anything. gfy.",
"And who would have thought lizard people could give you goosebumps?",
"Sweetie, it's time to give your therapist a call, you need to up your doses.",
"First, where are the feathers man!!?\nSecond, is that Jack Black?",
"Yeah its already way too late. We've already chosen extinction.",
"Wind farms are terrible for the environment like as bad as mining",
"Not a bad idea, how would you go about punishing them?",
"I can tell this is fake because real dinosaurs are feathered animals.",
"DR GRANT SAYS THATS A BAD IDEA",
"Have you so little knowledge of marketing that the idea of using a popular and recognised voice that has confidence, charisma and a background in voice acting to appeal to the masses is foreign to you?",
"The only way to solve this systematically is through regulation. The state of the regulation fairly accurately reflects public opinion (US) imo. Which is improving, but is the product of concerted propaganda. Anyway, what are *you* suggesting?\n\ntl,dr; Rupert Murdoch is the closest thing we have to a Bond villain. Bringing about a slow-motion global disaster with satellite rayguns that make people stupider.",
"Whoever felt motivated by this fake raptors speech needs help 😂",
"Seems to me we're desperate and trying anything. It's not going well.",
"We could have used this video before Joe Biden gifted the Taliban with $85 billion worth of new military technology and weaponry…",
"> If anything it's convincing younger generations that we solved the issue?\n\nWhere tf do you see that? The whole video is saying the opposite.",
"The UN funded an ad featuring Jack Black voicing a CG velociraptor is a sentence I never thought I would ever type.....",
"6th graders. \n\nBecause as an adult who doesn't own or operate a conglomerate that is a part of this, it has no impact on me. I recycle.",
"As a Swede, this is an acceptable consequence.",
"Shoulda been a British accent",
"Na the original comment was talking about straws. Relax you sperg you could of said \"surely you don't mean all environmentalists\" and then I said \"no\" but rather you had to make yourself look like an actual goober arguing with a point of view that I am not putting forward.",
"We still need fossil fuels for a ton of things, which is why it's incredibly important to remove them from the applications which we don't need them for, like grid power.",
"Who exactly is this message for? The handful of people who can actually do something about it? The middle class has been saying this shit since the beginning. Talk about spending money in the wrong place... how much did it cost to CGI a fucking dinosaur speech to advertise to the masses? Who have no control over government spending or corporate regulation at all. Fucking retarded.",
"Piss against the wind, got it.",
"lol oh yeah, I'm tErRiFiEd1!1!! lol chill.",
"We just gonna skip over the fact that the velociraptor was voiced by Jack Black?",
"does the 'p' stand for propaganda?",
"You think they're really trying to \"fight poverty and help the environment?\"",
"Or. [Counter point.](https://www.vhemt.org/)",
"Lol, that was the joke.",
"Sorry that was difficult to read, edited. Hooray for renewable energy, maybe let's focus on that for now.",
"He just doesn’t like fossil feul because he is fossil fuel!",
"Lmao got 'em",
"Um. Nor should you. But, seriously, what the fuck? How is this even remotely on the same level? It's a moderately cheeky piece of animation designed to get people's attention.\n\nAs a lifelong student of paleontology, would I have been pleased to see a depiction that was accurate to our current understanding rather than cribbed straight from *Jurassic Park*? Sure. Did that in any way diminish my enjoyment or appreciation of this ad? Not even a little, because it's a cartoon dinosaur. It isn't fucking blackface. Never mind saying they aren't in the same ballpark; those two things aren't even part of the same sport.\n\nIn other words, please try to refrain from such hyperbole over something so ultimately trivial.",
"In what country?\n\nIn the US, we just *barely* got to a majority of people who acknowledge that anthropogenic climate change exists.",
"Clever...guy?",
"I'm okay with extinction, just not today, it's Friday. Let's put that off until late Sunday night or first thing Monday morning.",
"Irony = the carbon footprint of making this video.",
"So the UN in a nutshell. \"We don't like what your country did, we're gonna sanction and fine you!\" Country: \"yeah I dont care, ain't paying or changing\" UN: \"...ok\"",
"Ya, but we didn’t do a damn thing a decade ago, so your whole point is terrible",
"This was Jack Black right?",
"Whoosh.\n\nThe entire point is that **you don't need an example**. \"There's no good example\" isn't a valid reason to be against Socialism. Also the USSR and modern Socialism (particularly Democratic Socialism) have practically no relationship whatsoever. Conflating them demonstrates a severe lack of knowledge of both.\n\nLet's just never try anything new unless there are examples to copy. No matter how bad things get, no matter how much late stage capitalism fails us, let's just keep our heads in the sand and pretend it's better than Socialism *we've never seen*. \n\nUgh.",
"My argument to that is why don't we stop making air harder to breath and killing everything in the ocean and piling up mountains of trash just to make the world a better place, even if the world isn't ending. You really want to live on Wall-E Earth?",
"[Shoot her intensifies](https://tenor.com/bfCvj.gif)",
"No, that's BS. We have made real progress on this. Not anywhere near where we need to, but you can see for example, the big uptick in wind and solar after obama got PTC passed. Individual states are moving along faster.\n\nUnless you are voting in every single f'ing election, you have no room to complain. Yes, your vote is diluted and disenfranchised, but the #1 most successful disenfranchisement is convincing people not to vote. And we sure as fuck aren't going to solve this by NOT voting.",
"Don’t these votes happen extremely often and this one happened to pick up traction. Also, forgive me for my lack of knowledge on the topic, but isn’t the embargo on Cuba only from the US and a few other counties it would be obscure that the US has the power to force an embargo on Cuba that affects other countries powers on trade with Cuba. If that is the case and all other things are the same shouldn’t the US have the most weight in the vote anyways? That is not to say I think people should be suffering, if they are, in Cuba just curious on the topic as a whole.",
"Depends on who you think 'they' is.\n\nDo I think that COP26 will be full of thousands of influential, powerful people who passionately care about the environment? Yes.\n\nAre they people they are trying to convince 100% commited to this? No, but they can be persuaded for a number of reasons.\n\nMy question about why chossing the environemt nand poverty as things to address is somehow a secret attempt to get more control hasn't been answered. What control is tying to be achieved that isn't already controlled?",
"To me, there's something pretty obvious that normal people can do: dethrone our leaders!",
"Looks like the overconfident dunces have left the chat in the face of actually information. Weird ¯\\\\\\_(ツ)\\_/¯ .",
"> What about when I use a bus or ride to work with someone else? I'm getting use out of it. \n\nYou're not using the road, the person operating the vehicle is using the road. They get taxed. Carpool person gets taxed. Bus service gets taxed. \n\n> What about a sidewalk? I'm only using the sidewalk from my house to the corner store. Should my taxes be used to put sidewalks on the rest of the street, neighborhood, borough? \n\nRoads take from walkable space. Sidewalks are not a feature, they are there to implement some level of safety around roads. They also don't experience wear and tare from people walking on them. They damage from vehicles driving on the road next to them. This again would be under road tax. \n\nAlso vehicles would be taxed according to their weight. Trucks do more damage to roads than cars do. \n\nI'm not for this tax plan. Just entertaining the commenter's hypothetical.\n\n> What about social security tax? Should I not be paying into this if I'm not using it? What about for when I need it? Oh it's a good thing I paid those taxes.\n\nThis is the worst example you could have used. Social Security will likely lead to a financial disaster down the road. \n\nhttps://usdebtclock.org/\n\nhttps://www.thebalance.com/unfunded-liabilities-definition-and-examples-4159564",
"Nah, just quit using all of the taxes to blow up brown people around the world, and use them to improve the lives of the tax payers instead.",
"What’s up Joel. Fellow Joel",
"Did the Dino being a great speaker make anyone else really uncomfortable? Something is rubbing me wrong here (besides the extinction level event thing)",
"A nation with a lot of soft power is the opposite of a pariah, the US can't be both.\n\nWhy the distinction? Specifically because I wanted to leave hard power out of it, because yeah, the US obviously has a ton of that.",
"1) 365 economists who have published an article mentioning climate change do not speak for all economists\n\n2) op also said the consensus among economists was similar to the consensus among scientists about climate change being man made\n\n3) this was 81% of the responding economists (out of only ones who have written about climate change), versus 97% of scientists. That is not a similar consensus\n\n4) it's not irrelevant that the response given in the survey was NOT “support for carbon tax”. That's more important than the sampling issue because it invalidates the claim no matter what sample was used. The response was simply not just about a carbon tax. At most you could say that many support *a* market based solution, but you can't pick one of them and say they all support it.",
"I did not get the impression that the issue has been solved. It's been a major crises for decades, I don't think this video solved all of that. I think it's encouraging other people like world leaders and the younger generation to make the needed change",
"Who cares what they say they are a fucking joke anyway",
"You clearly defined that people have a problem with the government, not the average citizen. Also if China wasn't so predominantly Han then nobody would be making these allegations. When people hate America they're not considered de facto racist.",
">We are watching and talking about it.\n\nShame talking about a trending internet video does absolutely nothing to solve this problem for the average person.",
"He’s got a point but at the same time, extinction isn’t such a bad thing",
"You’re talking to a straw man",
"More voting won't change the fact that the electoral system is broken, and nobody we can vote for is willing to change it.\n\nAndrew Yang, a smart, young, and ambitious man wanted to change things and was laughed away. Joe Biden, a senile career politician, said \"Fundamentally nothing will change\" and he's the president.",
"Raptoids",
"Made up computer models? What kind of anti science dumb dumb shit is this?",
"Prove it.",
"Simpletons: the elite are lizards\n\nIntellectuals: the elite are birds",
"Canadian here. Can confirm. America is a gun crazed always attacking overweight joke.",
"I'll rephrase what he said, the issues never change every election, this is always what I vote towards every election. At the end of the day it's purely whether the politicians decide whether it works for the status quo for them to act, or simply promise that they're \"working\" on it, which means my vote doesn't really do anything.",
"> I do not support carbon tax. Shove it up your arse and do something serious that will actually solve the problem rather than finding another way to take my fucking hard earned money which I have not nearly enough of, whilst basically telling me that I'm the problem.\n\nThis is a \"have your cake and eat it too\" satiation.\n\nThe sole reason we keep burning fossil fuels is because it's obscenely economical, you get a huge amount of energy for relatively little effort. Every other energy source (yes, including nuclear) is much more expensive, and that situation isn't going to change in the near future.\n\nThis means that any business or industry that wants to move away from CO2 generating energy sources will be paying a premium to do so; the result is that their products will be more expensive than that of a competitor who is still burning fossil fuels.\n\nThis is where you and I come in.\n\nHow much more would you be willing to pay for a given product if it was net-zero? To put it the other way, how much cheaper would a product have to be before you would consider it worth the effects of global warming?\n\nWe know, thanks to the fact we're in this situation, that the answer is \"not much\".\n\nThe whole point of a carbon tax is to make fossil fuels much less attractive to the free market by making it just as expensive as the alternatives.\n\nYes, it will cost you more, but if you wound back the clock and \"made multi billion dollar plans decades ago to completely renew the entire energy infrastructure\" then you would've been paying more already.",
"Go look at the shit PragerU spouts",
"Fuck Atlantis",
"Libertarians never have even the faintest fucking clue how society functions.",
"It's American and European companies who offshores all of their production to China, India and soon Africa ya nonce.",
"Yeah, but this creature will *literally* start eating the rich if they don't make the right move.",
"I can’t explain it - but this is how I know it’s over. Something about how cutesy it is combined with the knowledge that there’s no amount of public will that is sarcastic and appealing to emotion, rather than angry and out in the streets, that will ever overcome the greed and callousness of the powerful.",
"> Join organizations, unite with others and then apply pressure to the people who claim to be your representative into either actually being your representative\n\nNot everyone is in their early 20s with everything to prove. A lot of people simply have commitments and responsibilities they can't abandon to radically revolutionize this type of stuff.\n\n>or else get them out of power.\n\nThis comes down to voting, my single vote does not change this, and regardless, I have always voted for the party that seems to be for working on the climate change issue. Beyond that, I simply have no control over politics.",
">[Please clap](https://youtu.be/OUXvrWeQU0g) -Lizard\n\nI think you missed that part.",
"It isn't going to happen, though the video is fun. We're heading for more dystopia. Just at the lip of the curve now.",
"Not the US",
"No, that is Barney.",
"Quit making excuses for China. They pollute twice as much as the US. \n\nAnd your response had nothing to do with my question.",
"I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Donald Trump fanboys are never, ever arguing in good faith. They don't get to support a wannabe fascist like Trump and then have the right to clutch their pearls about government overreach.",
"“Imperial Ambitions” is a clear reference to the Middle East, which I addressed in my previous comment. You’re backing your way into an argument, not building it from the base to reach a conclusion. The Middle East had been in a state of continual turmoil for generations prior to any US Involvement and has been the subject of global conflict for centuries. To act as though the US’s very recent involvement, late in the game, is at all responsible for that turmoil is just an outright denial of reality. Was the military occupation of these nations, IN PART, a result of special interests pushing said occupation to serve themselves? Yes, absolutely. But let’s also not forget the fact that entire ethnic populations were being gassed, en masse, there was a continual buildup of arms being placed in the hands of a murderous despot, and the world was clamoring for “a police action” to help prevent further suffering. The occupation was a failure but to latch on to the interests of a particularly opportunistic group of special interests is to lack any nuance whatsoever. \n\n“Why are western interests more important?” Because the Western World stands for freedom. Simply put. China, Russia, Afghanistan, Iran, etc exist as quasi-dictatorships. That makes them wrong - outright. I’m sure you wouldn’t try to make the argument that the interests of dictatorships that actively oppress their citizens, cleanse ethnic groups, and act as the aggressors on the world stage should have *their interests* protected first and foremost, and I’d bet you wouldn’t even be willing to stretch so far as to say “we should just leave them to their own devices” as nations like China actively threaten to invade sovereign countries and commit genocide within their borders. \n\n“The imperial ambitions of the US are detrimental to its population” any police action or war is detrimental to the nation’s population, but I’m sure you wouldn’t argue that getting involved in WWII was a bad decision. Criticize the occupation of the ME, sure - I’d be happy to do it with you - but if your subsequent conclusion from that is that the US is some sort of Global Evil, then you’re far too emotionally invested in your position to be able to argue it rationally. ESPECIALLY if you’re going to argue that the interests of the Western Nations, which exist to prevent the further encroachment and growth of interests of “super power dictatorships” aren’t more important than those dictatorships. The West stands in opposition to these countries and even the most controversial wars that lack much support, like the Middle East, were undertaken in an effort to curb the influence of nations like Russia seeking to control the global energy supply. \n\nIn summary, if your entire international political standpoint is summed up into “America is an Imperialist State” then you’ve spent far too much time on this website and lack any real depth or understanding of the layers of influence involved in these politics and clearly do not understand the scope of negative influence that would be wrought on us in the event China or Russia stepped forth to be the most powerful country in the world. You might not like what it takes to secure freedom at home and promote it worldwide, but that’s a feelings argument, not a logical one.",
"Bezo’s pet project?",
"Imo, both of these things pretty much do nothing aside from just giving your the appearance that you're making a difference. You can vote as much as you want, you can bitch all over social media, and you can go out and protest. \n\nNothing matters unless you can make it worthwhile for the people in power to see a drastic change to their life.",
"I, for one, welcome our new dinosaur overlords",
"Per capita the US emits twice as much as china and over 7 times as much as india. The west is also very polluting, although most pollution per capita goes to qatar followed by UAE",
"That reminds me of these vegans I know that eat meat, shit is comical when vegans eat meat. You may conclude that they weren't actually vegans but trust me they are, I know them. Are you gonna call me wrong? It's just my personal experience. I also know a blind man that can see! Shit's crazy yo, I know him though. Shits almost as comical as my dead life coach. He's a corpse but he knows how to live trust me. Might not sound likely, but trust me it's just comical, I know him personally.",
"Not easy to get 100,000 people to stop working and protest all at once for something that has been protested for decades.",
"No, and like I say, that's even more annoying. Or maybe frustrating is a better word.\n\nI just feel like literally half the population are anti-climate in some way, and I honestly don't think anything short of an actual climate disaster is going to stop them at this point.",
"I'm fairly certain Cubans are suffering because of their own government bro\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Cuban_protests\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Cuba\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Cuba",
"No, but there's no way in hell capitalism is going to even try to stop climate change.\n\nWe are at the point where every measure we could possibly implement is just mitigation, but capitalism still won't do them. Communism vs capitalism is the difference between global climate disaster and global climate apocalypse.\n\n> INSTANTLY ... ELIMINATE FOSSIL FUELS\n\nIdeally yes, but any time frame is better than capitalism's \"when it stops being profitable, and we'll do everything we can to keep it profitable\".",
"I don't think people are saying do nothing, or actively hurt the situation. People are just saying \"well I'm already doing what I can short of throwing away my life for this cause that will never change until select people agree to it, and it won't be me who will be convincing them\".",
"The history Channel was right!",
"> You are shilling for free for the big oil companies and investors. \n\nRealize that most big oil companies are pushing for 'green' energy. This is because the solutions that are going to be rolled out - like solar and wind power - are profitable. Notice how nuclear energy gets swept under the rug in these conversations?",
"Most plastics we use these days are made from fossil fuels, which are carbon based. Manufacturing plastic releases that carbon that was previously trapped in the form of oil/natural gas deep underground, and that carbon goes into the atmosphere in the form of carbon dioxide.\n\nWhen plastic is burned in an incinerator, more carbon dioxide is released. And a lot of places still [incinerate plastic](https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/feb/21/philadelphia-covanta-incinerator-recyclables-china-ban-imports).",
"Without a doubt that's it. Idk why this guy pisses me off so much lmao, I hope you have a great day though internet stranger :) Assholes gonna asshole.",
"They won’t understand until wits too late.",
">Activism. Organize ith your close ones. Join an environmental organization.\n\nCan you show me a single time in history where this was effective, and didn't involve the people in power being pressured by other people in power?",
"Let me tell you about a director named David Lynch...",
"Okay buddy",
"I know it's supposed to be a serious/inspiring video, but I get nothing out of it except cringe. At the rate we're going and without immediate global response *this immediate moment*, there's fuck all that can be done to save the planet. We've already pressed the proverbial button, now we've gotta live and die with it.",
"/r/uninsurable\n\nhttps://www.drawdown.org/solutions/nuclear-power\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/environment/comments/dbmudd/nuclear_cannot_help_against_climate_crisis/f232f68/",
"I don't think the idea is for them to live out there, it's to send other people to live out there and make it habitable. Billionaires will have no problem living in the best, unravaged places on earth while this is happening.",
"Air travel is one of the last (and hardest) problems environmentalist should be worrying about. That may very well be the kind of travel we need carbon capture for. Complaining about people taking a vacations (especially Americans who barley vacation) is a classic example of environmentalist shaming people for things that NO ONE but them think is bad. If you want to reduce aviation emissions work on improving the roll out of telecommuting. Most business travel is miserable and you would be improving people lives.",
"If it was a strong majority in every state, then Democrats wouldn't have only a slim majority in the Senate. Instead there are states where most people feel very much the opposite.",
">\tHe did not, the theoretical value of his assets went up $36 billion. That is very different than having $36 billion.\n\nBezos pulled 10b out of his “non-liquid” assets last year and nothing explodes, no one went bankrupts and both he and Amazon are just fine. Stop with the pie that these billionaires can’t access their money because of bullshit garbage. Because that’s all it is…bullshit garbage.\n\n>\tIt's also ~1% of the $2.7 TRILLION budget deficit, so extremely meaningless for US tax revenue.\n\nWhere the fuck did I say anything about the national deficit?!? I didn’t? No? Good. Drop the non-sequiturs. That’s fucking deflection, and you know it. Knock it the fuck off. \n\n>\tIt's also ~1% of the $2.7 TRILLION budget deficit, so extremely meaningless for US tax revenue.\n\nNo. They fucking don’t. Not when you subtract the cost of things they don’t have to pay for. Take universal healthcare. If you make less than the equivalent of $120k (which only 7% of Americans make more than) in the U.K., just 2% of your taxes towards the NHS. And the NHS is one of the most extreme and costly forms of universal healthcare in the world.\n\nNow, do YOUR total medical bills cost YOU 2% of your income? No? They cost you SIGNIFICANTLY more than that? Well then subtract ALL that money you just saved because we made our healthcare universal from your tax bill, cause that’s a DIRECT savings.\n\nEverything you wrote is nothing but billionaire capitalist propaganda designed to keep you from enjoying benefits that LITERALLY the ENTIRE developed world has EXCEPT us.\n\nStop dumping for Daddy Bezos and Mommy Musk. They will never love you.",
"It makes sense for the strongest nations to have a veto power, but there should be a mechanism to override the veto (a 4/5th vote or something). The UN wouldn't work without the most powerful/influential nations being members.\n\n Those same nations wouldn't join and/or cooperate with the UN if they didn't have the right to veto since they wouldn't voluntarily subject themselves to the whims of weaker nations (see, e.g, international court).",
"> You gotta chill my man,\n\nSo, the guy pointing out to people obsessing over trump still is actually the one who needs to chill? \n\n> just because Trump turned out to be a worthless joke (I was genuinely hoping for a reduction in spending and the deficit, too) doesn't mean you need to take it personally. \n\nWhat is it Im taking personally?\n\n> You're not Trump. \n\nCorrect\n\n> There are thousands - maybe millions of people better suited to representing you and me. \n\nWho is talking about representation here? Are you sure youre responding to the correct comment?\n\n> Let's focus on the future and use the past to inform our decisions so we don't make the same mistakes.\n\nIs that not what I said in regards to these people still raging over trump 10 months after him being out of office? I feel as though you didnt read my comments and might actually be obsessing over the guy still as well.",
"Worthless organization.",
"Bowzer the Greasersaurus",
"It's always funny to me that people think that the 1% or greater will be affected by climate change anywhere near as equal as everyone else. If 90% of humanity goes extinct, the upper elite will be the last to notice it.",
"The average citizen will be paying a lot more than $40 when faced with the impacts of climate change anyways. Like the price of insurance going up due to increased natural disaster risks, etc.",
"Ctrl+F \"geoengineering\"\nCtrl+F \"nuclear energy\"\n\n0 hits hmmmm",
"Yeah, it has been low key protested for a long while. But the same is true about any issue. Women's rights were protested for a century before it caught momentum last decade, and we went from some 5k in my city around 2010, mostly women, to a couple hundred thousands of all walks of life, spearheading the uprising. Also, no need to stop working. You can and should organize protests at other times (19:00 was usual, or saturdays) to gauge engagement, build up momentum and morale, etc. Once you have developed and proven your capacity to reliably convoke an enthusiastic crowd you should start doing the more \"costly\" stuff. Remember, any social movement needs to be handled in a sustainable fashion. Burn people out and your movement will fizzle for a while. Have you seen how bitter and cynical US people are after BLM failed to enact change? That was a poorly managed protest movement (paired with covid, no small foe). It will take some time to rebuild it.",
"yoooo you can't say that word, thats *their* word",
"Oh damn, do they not teach about climate change at all in the US?",
"For those missing the context (like I was), SDG here stands for Sustainability Development Goal. More info here:\n\nhttps://sdgs.un.org/goals",
"Why are the people IN POWER making promotional videos?",
"Looks like someone didn’t watch the video.",
"The high cost and long build time can be easily remedied by removing a lot of the bureaucratic red tape. If we allow cookie cutter reactors, I think we could solve it easily.",
"> Women's rights were protested for a century before it caught momentum last decade\n\nFalse equivalency. There are just as many women in the world as there are men, therefore there are just as many elite and powerful women as there are men, so the top 1% of the world (or I guess the US) is directly affected by the issue. Something was going to break.\n\nIt'll be decades before the climate change issue affects the top 1%.",
"Still it's absolutely useless for what the video is talking about (pressuring countries to move away from oil). Russia, USA and China are all permanent members of the security council. It will never lead major action.",
">The fact that a solid majority of then support a solution like a carbon tax shows his point pretty well. \n\nExcept that isn't what the survey shows.\n\nThere's been a climate pledge in support of a carbon tax for a couple of years, to date it only has ~3600 signatures, which is only around 20% of working economists in the country (not necessarily all economists). Not exactly a consensus, and not one as strong as the man made climate change consensus.\n\n>Oh so you just didn't open the link and read anything.\n\nOh fuck off, I wrote about multiple problems with the study because I clearly did look at it and you have no idea what you're talking about because I know you didn't. Are you his alt or something? The study literally lists as a limitation that it assumes economic trends to be static. Don't lecture me about not reading, something you obviously haven't done with any of the links. Yet you believe them all, just like I said would happen.\n\n>Second, calling it non-representative is kind of mind boggling considering that the US doesn't have a carbon tax at all. \n\nYou didn't read it, because if you did you might have understood what I meant.",
"Its inevitable",
"https://en-roads.climateinteractive.org/scenario.html?v=2.7.11",
"Especially because the problem wouldn't be solved and you would have collapsed the economy for nothing.",
"https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1468-2508.2005.00357.x\n\nhttps://www.environmentalvoter.org/get-involved",
"I knew this comment was going to arise instantly LOL",
"Why the last qualification? If you change the scenario enough that some power players are forced to align with you, you still enacted change.\n\nExamples from my country only (Chile):\n\nPunta Choros (2010, stopped a coal power plant)\n\nThe 2011 student revolution (got free college for the poorest 40% of the population)\n\nHidroaysen (2012-14, stopped a destructive hidro dam)\n\nEl levantamiento social (2019, got to rewrite our constitution)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nMy country is not exceptional in that sense. Pacific protest movements have been studied and proven to be effective worldwide. The critical tresshold seems to be having 3.5% of the population protesting at once, no movement in history has failed after surpassing that number according to recent research. All the worker rights we all enjoy were won by mass protests. Weekends. Guaranteed vacations. Guaranteed sick leave. Worker's safety standards. Workplace accident compensations. 8 hour workday. Etc.",
"I really like this video, but that confused me as well... Who is the UN? Isn't that basically \"all\" the nations? Was this made by those who should watch it? Who can do anything about this if not the leaders of the nations?",
"that lizard is infringing copyright on mickael jackson",
"I’m so inspired. Let me just go shut down my super container ship that creates as much pollution as millions of cars.",
"human race died of clappydia",
"Allens",
"I think OP is just Cuban and probably voted for Trump because JFK was a Democrat",
"Worker's rights? Seriously mate, just think of a few examples yourself instead of nitpicking at one you didn't like.",
"This guy really hates the US. Like, a lot.",
"Probably middle America, The over 40% that don't believe climate change is real. The prehistoric giant raptor is speaking English and designed to look like a popular movie monster.",
"> Why the last qualification? If you change the scenario enough that some power players are forced to align with you, you still enacted change.\n\n100% agree with this, and that is why I made that statement. I think a lot of people assume that protests convince people in power to make changes, they do not, other people in power using that situation to manipulate the top people in power, that's pretty much it.\n\nFor example in my country, First Nations people protest all of the time, for completely justified reasons. They have been for hundreds of years. It rarely goes anywhere, *unless* someone who's actually in the government finds it advantageous to take their side (for votes, money, political sabotage, etc).",
"Every Rock needs a little Hart for the follow up punchline.",
"Another way to say it is that [we're already paying more, it's just hidden](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FILWIIid9C4).",
"I have kids from 2nd-7th grade, and I believe it’s taught somewhere in between there. I’m sure my 5th grader learned it, so maybe it’s 5th. But it is taught, if just for a lesson or two. Not sure how high school is yet.",
"This entirely. Industry only makes what it can sell, so if we don’t buy it, they don’t make it. But people need their fossil fuels to go places which is kind of important. So the only way to make people stop consuming it is to market a better mode of transportation and make it affordable.\n\nThen again, people have tried to do that in the past and were mysteriously killed so… Yeah. Maybe we’re just fucked.",
"Well considering the title of the video says Jack Black I’m 66% sure it was Jack Black",
"The veto power exists so the security council members will show up at all. Try convincing China or the US that they deserve the same voting powers as Liechtenstein.",
"The same UN that ran cover for China's COVID lies and pretends that china is in compliance with carbon goals while being largest offender by enormous margins, producing more emissions than most of the rest of the world combined and only increasing?\n\nTell me more.",
"You didn’t have to go that far to see if it’s JB… it says it right in the title of the youtube video",
"Climate change will be used for the next lockdowns. It's coming.",
"What you are looking at isn’t “two Dems blocking all progress”. That’s just the symptom. The problem is that the power of the Senate is unfairly distributed amongst Americans, and holds an excessive amount of power. \n\nThe senate is an advantage for conservatives that is baked into our constitution. We can reduce the impact of that advantage by expanding the House and Judicial Branch, but cannot eliminate the advantage without constitutional amendments, or wide scale emigration from blue states to red to turn them blue.",
"Funny how they skirt around naming capitalism as the root of most of this. Endless growth, production, and consumption cannot exist on a finite planet.",
">We find that voter preferences predict the aggregate roll-call behavior of Senators while nonvoter preferences do not.\n\nWhat the fuck does that have to do with anything?",
"Is that fucking jack black",
">so the top 1% of the world (or I guess the US) is directly affected by the issue\n\nSorry so you're saying workers striking would not have effected the top 1% at all?",
"Bowser is a turtle",
"11/9 was an outside job \n\n\n*Person asks* \" do u mean 9/11 ?\"\n\nDinosaur: \"I've said to much \"",
"We're at a point where we're using cartoon dinosaurs to get people to care about a very real issue.\n\nHoly shit. We're all going to die, aren't we?",
"Not funny, didnt laugh",
"We (Americans) are worse per capita and outsource much of our carbon output",
"Why are you saying feathers are wimpy nonsense? Raptors definitely had feathers and it’s way more badass.\n\nI think UN fucked up here personally. If they’re taking about science and using a scientifically inaccurate raptor, that’s not exactly going to sway the people who think climate change isn’t real.\n\n(Although, some of those people probably think raptors were featherless anyway)",
"fuck it let's go extinct",
"One air travel vacation per year isn't really a problem. But I know someone who flies like 10x a year. His carbon footprint is massive and you can't just pretend that it's not an issue. Airplanes deposit pollutants and CO2 higher up in the atmosphere and this actually makes them worse than other forms of pollution on a per unit basis.\n\nI'm not about shaming people, just looking at objective facts. Air travel is really bad for the planet.",
"Bruh almost all of us have absolutely zero say in what does or doesn't get subsidized. \"It's a big club and none of you are in it!\"",
"Why they are always playing poverty card?",
"I mean the world leaders arent as bad as american leaders",
"Holy shit, i laughed at this whole thread. Don’t ever change, reddit",
"Dictionaries aren't prescriptive, but even if they were, you'd still be wrong. Literally nobody uses propaganda interchangeably with 'any messaging at all' as you suggest. \n\nhttps://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/propaganda",
"Extinction is good for the bottom line.",
"For the last time, there is **not** a race of cool, smart, sexy lizard people running your society. Our society.",
">[WE NEED TO LISTEN TO SCIENTISTS](https://i.imgur.com/zq2ZfK8.jpg)",
"Cringe much?",
"While I disagree that a carbon tax is necessarily bad (if you remove other taxes on the poor and middle class) you have perfectly summarized why I get so frustrated with environmentalist. They are so busy trying to destroy capitalism and control every aspect of our lives they end up being a hindrance to actually getting shit done. They are treating it as a social problem and not a technical one.\n\nI could go into all the monkey wrenching they do to projects that would help climate change but I would end up writing a book. If the only solution to climate change is some global Eco-authoritarian regime then we are fucked.",
"the next jurassic park should be about a scientist domestic terrorist who unleashes his test tube carnivorous dinosaurs inside government buildings then locks the doors",
"SHUT UP YOU EVIL ILLUMANTI REPTILE DEMON! I WILL NOT SUBMIT TO YOUR DEMANDS, I WILL NOT DRINK CORN SYRUP!",
"As leaders spent the past year flying around the world on private jets for parties, vacations and meetings. The little people should give up and go without so the wealthy get to travel and do what they want. If these leaders care so much they should give up their multiple homes, large size homes, private jets, yachts, stay home and stop traveling. If they can't do that, why would someone who makes 50k spend 50k on an electric car?",
"As long as money can buy anything, money will buy anything.",
"Any of you guys eat elk?",
"The message will fall on deaf ears. The rich and powerful could care less. They're already old. They won't see or experience the world changing for the worse. The ones that will survive to those days can afford to continue living in luxury and opulence. \n\nI doubt we'll go extinct from climate change. Humanity has already survived multiple Ice Ages and the events that caused them. Lots of people will die though. We live by 'The Golden Rule' and the ruling class has already decided our fate. Money. Money triumphs over everything.",
"Maybe if they'd get off their asses and sanction India and China for their pollution, and push for them to move onto nuclear energy/clean energy too significantly, and actually pursue Nuclear energy more, instead of harping constantly on us normal citizens, the shit situation might be averted.\n\nIt's pretty pointless to keep harping on US and European citizens etc. that have already started doing their bit to some degree, as well as harping on US and European corporations/businesses and moving towards electric, solar, nuclear(in some areas) etc. and not doing anything about the astronomical issues with India and China... what they're doing over there is absolutely miles worse than where we are now in the west, and they don't look like they'll sort things out anytime soon unless extreme pressure is put on them.. so us changing things over here willl honestly not stop the collapse if China/India aren't doing shit.",
"#The VelociRapture is here",
"That's just Joe Biden.",
"Nah, fam, I'm going to use your putrefied guts to fill up my pickup.",
"Science should not be marketed. It should just be.\n\nYou have Jack Black the Kung Fu Panda tell me to get vaccinated, i might think twice about getting it, and I'm already vaccinated, because its clearly propoganda.",
"It really is now or never. Joe Manchin just cares about living in a mansion.",
"You don't throw the baby out with the bath water homie.",
"Thank you lizard person 🦎",
"they still believe there's a chance, isn't that cute",
"the united nations could care less about this planet. this is such a joke",
"Uh, mass protests also affect the 1%... They stop the economy.",
"Jewish Velociraptors control the world!",
"The reason people have problems with a carbon tax is because they don't trust environmentalist to not use it as a weapon to tax them into the \"correct way of living\". While most of the people who came up with these systems are thinking of it as a way to de-carbonize the economy (with both a carrot and stick approach) and even give the poor and middle class some tax relief in the process. Its the internet Eco-authoritarian crap that makes any kind of change impossible.",
"There is no good or bad. Those are constructs to control public opinion. Reality is complex and nuanced, not painted in bright colors like a superhero comic book.",
"Make it make sense? Fuel prices are an immediate problem that affects the consumer in a direct and obvious way. Climate change is a future problem that affects the consumer in an indirect and difficult to understand way.",
"Beautiful!",
"Why the heck are they telling us for? They're the goddamned United Nations.",
"Yeah, but they never gathered up enough momentum to become a mainstream issue. They never got a large percentage of the population protesting.\n\nProtests do convince people in power to make changes tho. But not because they changed their hearts. It is because mass protest impacts stuff critical to those in power such as productivity, economic growth, votes, etc.",
"Just eat the bugs, live in a pod, and drink the soy you bigot!",
"You want real , why are these people NOT feeding themselves by growing what they need as WE have dumped TRILLIONS into feeding the world and for what out of control POPULATION GROWTH that leads to invasion and occupations of others because they were working to feed themselves and their own the large scale erections of cities with the loss of usable farm lands to house and feed others NOT of our own and hidden behind the economic and population shell games based on promises and hope it will be different when it cannot be under the same methodologies that keep leading to the same end results which IS all you are doing and have been doing for over 100 years now as you use US as your dumping grounds then blame US for your failures because they are not ours.\n\nEnergy is subsidized like farming because the end results cannot be achieved any other way, you talk about money but money is made from industry industry is jobs jobs provide money however industry of any kind needs energy all forms of higher standards of living require it and the shell games will put an end to any possibility of surviving because the propaganda is a deception into genocide under the guise of doing things differently by switching it all around...\n\nEND THE U.N as it is not and has not been worth the cost WE have paid into it only to have US used as their DUMPING GROUNDS because this IS what they have done NOT US SO close borders because you are already on the road to extinction and IF you want to stop it that is what you are going to have to do and just for the record to safe the rest of the other species that also inhabit this planet you will need to set aside 50% to stop those extinctions as well because without them you are still going to go extinct...\n\nIt's funny how you always seem to have enough people to march against others but fail to have enough to feed and care for your own within your own it is also funny that you can afford to buy so many weapons and complain about others who pay for farms to feed the hungry, homes to house them and work at taking care of their own within their own. \n\nN. Shadows",
"I think that is where you are wrong. Politicians are reactive. If the people don't care about the environment the they won't care. They want voters and they will adapt to what the voters want.",
"Isn't this rife with bad science? Including the dinosaur?",
"Energy production isn’t the only issue we have to worry about, and you’re doing a huge disservice by trying to frame it like that. Energy and heat only accounts for about 25% of global co2 emissions, and that includes heat sources like wood and natural gas burning. \n\nYou are right, Nuclear is truly the only widescale solution, but we also need to rethink our how we use energy, and where it is generated, and how we can better store it. \n\nIf we are being honest, greenhouse gas emissions aren’t even the only way in which we are fucked. We are losing our fish, and our insects, and our fresh water. It’s been a slow boil, but it will come to a roaring boil soon.",
"I'm just happy to see they didn't kill the black guy at the beginning as Hollywood typically does.",
"You know that, I know that, but most people on Reddit only know “America is the worst country in the world” or “America is the best nation that will ever exist and has done no wrong”",
"Joe Biden: Hey it's corn pop!",
"Only they can defeat Raptor Jesus.",
"Capitalism has to end, that's the only way",
">They want voters and they will adapt to what the voters want.\n\nThen why is UBI still not a thing when a majority of voters are for it in most places in the world? It's not worth it for the wealthy, and it's an issue they can easily ignore for now.",
"> Yeah, but they never gathered up enough momentum to become a mainstream issue.\n\nIt's actually a voting issue every election. The Keystone Pipeling protests have been in the news for the past couple of years, but the protests themselves have changed very little, despite receiving constant coverage.",
"And if it does?\n\nLook, humanity **needs** to start recognizing the true impact of the things we buy and use. Really the only globally recognized scale of “value” we have is with currency. \n\nWe have to start paying the true costs of our externalities. If that makes each gallon of gas cost $20, well, then, I guess we should find some transportation alternatives pretty damn quick. Market forces drive change, and we cannot allow capitalism to continue to steal wealth from our planet because that’s exactly what is happening right now.",
"UN is a joke",
"Covid stopped the entire world's economy, and yet made wealthy people wealthier.",
"Is that a diplociraptor?",
"As so someone who has lived in multiple countries, it is bizarre to me how apathetic Americans are to climate change or their leaders not doing shit. My friends in the UK were way more invested in climate change ten years ago than any Americans I know now are. \n \nOur government won't change unless we do.",
"Lol are you embarrassed by this comment? Downvote!",
"I gotta say, I am thoroughly baffled by your line of reasoning.\n\n“Propaganda *has* to be misinformation, the dictionary says so.”\n\n“Actually, the dictionary says it’s any kind of public influence messaging.”\n\n“You can’t use the dictionary like that, that’s prescriptivism!”\n\n\nI’m not sure where you’re getting the idea that literally nobody uses it to mean public influence, considering that *both* definitions you’ve sent do exactly that.\n\nJust for [another](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda), “Propaganda is communication that is primarily used to influence an audience and further an agenda, which may not be objective”\n\n\nAnd that is sourced from [Encyclopædia Britannica](https://www.britannica.com/topic/propaganda), which calls propaganda “dissemination of information—facts, arguments, rumours, half-truths, or lies—to influence public opinion.”",
"I like how confident and condescending this comment is with fucking 10 downvotes and going hahaha god damn this is funny",
"I'll pitch in and stop melting all the ice caps",
"There’s always one clown like this",
"Dinosaurs are fake",
"Democrats will save us! You drank the koolaid",
"You ignored the important part, the line after the one you quoted...\n\n**They never got a large percentage of the population protesting.**",
"OK.... cue the Lizard People conspiracy theorists who are going to roll coal as a result of this PSA.",
"Yeah, those far beyond the 1%",
"Is that your fantasy bro",
"You have been brainwashed sir",
"Socialism and Communism are (in theory) inherently Democratic. Hell, Communism is literally direct democracy.\n\nThe authoritarian mess of the USSR wasn't the final or defininite manifestation of these ideas.",
"nice video but yet again the messaging doesn't hit the mark...",
"No matter how many PSAs they release, it’s still not reaching the right people. They simply do not care. You’re preaching to people who literally can’t do anything about what’s happening.",
"It's more that reptile is a useless grouping that excludes mammals and birds despite the ancestors of both being called reptiles.",
"Fucking wish, nobody be getting any cloaca action anytime soon. Except the freaks anyways.",
"I can forgive humans for wiping out humans but I'll never forgive humans if they let dogs go extinct",
"*Ben Shapiro voice* Well, um, factually, technically, that is not \"by definition\", since an irrational actor is simply one who is not perfectly rational, and technically no human is perfectly rational. So an actor can be irrational and still perfectly able to understand and take into account that they will get nuked back, and we can see this by the fact that, as a human, I am not perfectly rational, and I can understand that fact right now.\n\nThe \"lone wolf\" nuclear attack is a very extreme case. You can just say that all it takes is one irrational actor. All it takes is one irrational actor to give me $2 billion dollars, I don't plan my life thinking that is a legitimate possibility for two reasons: 1) it is extremely unlikely, 2) it is (reasonably) out of my control.",
"The dinosaur would be too fabulous.",
"Are you acting dumb? This is obviously just about branding. No biggie.",
"Gonna need a source on that one. It's not perfect by any means, but I haven't seen anything that says it's that bad.",
"I look forward to our extinction to be completely honest.\n\nWe probably wont though, not that there wont be a massive disaster, but Im willing to bet billions of us will die out within the next 50 years or so.",
"Air travel is around 4% (i believe that includes the effects you are talking about) of all emissions currently. While there are things we can do like focus more on telecommuting, telling people to take a train for anywhere they would fly is basically telling them you are not allowed to travel. Its a hard problem because of the way aerospace industries around the world operate and are regulated. Long haul carbon free travel is at best 10 years away from production. One the plus side battery tech is almost at the point where short range electric flights are becoming more viable.\n\nYou could spend those 10 years focusing on de carbonizing the power, car and maybe oceanic shipping fleet. That would make more of a difference. People are not going to forgo the safest form of international travel for sailing on the ocean. \n\nYes flight shaming is a thing radical environmentalist have tried to popularize.\n\nAlso your friend is either a business traveler (which telecommuting might help with) or so rich any carbon taxes/regulations they will just shrug off.",
"I don't know why you think the people democratically voting in a bunch of fascists means democracy isn't working, it just reflects the will of the people there.\n\nThere's nothing that says democracies have to be liberal. People can and do democratically vote in right wing parties and vote to do all sorts of terrible shit.",
"Dude who tf is the target audience of this video? I have zero control of this stuff.",
"Thanks! You too.",
"Can somebody explain who the fuck this is aimed at",
"Hopefully in Toy story 5 they finally give the humans feathers, it’s only accurate. \n\nOn a serious note\n\n> It’s way easer to make a cgi monster out of smooth ish skin. Especially when it has to be in broad daylight.\n\nTIL a bit about CGI.",
"I can't help but feel like I would take this PSA about a science topic more seriously if they had used a scientifically accurate reconstruction of a dinosaur. C'mon guys, we're like 20 years into knowing that dromaeosaurids (I can't tell if this is supposed to be a Velociraptor or a Utahraptor or a Deinonychus or what) had feathers.\n\nI'm on board with the message though.",
"Why didn't they end with him eating the guy at the end 😂😂 missed opportunity",
"They’re stupid for not making a policy change when they have absolutely zero authority to do any of that? Really? Are _they_ stupid?",
"My 2 year old who LOVES dinosaurs and complex world issues!!!",
"There’s a game that was I believe that was only released in Japan that is kind of like that. It’s called LSD, and it’s basically walking through the creators weird dream cycles. Pretty cool honestly check out a video of it.",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MondapIjAAM\n\nThis video along with the other videos on this channel pretty much sum up that it doesn't really matter what we do.\n\nUnless you have many billions of $$$ to lobby, you can't compete with the corporations that are leading us to demise.\n\nAs long as corporations can continue to just buyout politicians & as long as we continue to have senile people in power, very little is going to change. We need younger people in power who will actually be impacted by the consequences of doing nothing, not the senile people who only think about their own short term benefits who'll be dead before long anyway.",
"That’s because people think the correlation is a lot higher than it is. We don’t need subsidies to have inexpensive gas prices we need the politicians to stop getting such big cheques.",
"Imagine being the people who make the laws, telling other people to stop making excuses.",
"> Because the second one will in an likelihood never happen. These assholes will croak rich, fat, and happy without ever seeing a single consequence. I see the common citizen paying a climate tax way before some oil executive.\n\nLMAO you think paying that climate tax is going to do a goddamn thing to fix the problem? Shits just going to line more pockets.",
"Whoaaaaa! Well done.",
"I am conflicted. I am all for less population(I feel the Ideal population is around 5B) but I don't want people dying of something that can be prevented either.",
"Gee I wonder why governments are spending their resources on rich people instead of helping the poor",
"Maybe people don't trust that voting for a carbon tax is going to do anything productive. Which seems like a perfectly reasonable position.",
"Cute. Are they showing this at meeting where billions dollar heartless CEOs are? If so they wasted time and money that could have been used on something else.",
"How can we have Reptar on Ice if there is no ice?",
"You mean climate scientists",
"Thank you!",
"Is that Captain American voice?",
"Even the folks here believe public opinion doesn’t count. No wonder humanity is fucked.",
"It already has been bu thousands of papers",
"The first article literally says it will fuck poor people unless you recycle the money back to those people via a dividend check? Just seems like it gives the government a massive opportunity to say nah, we're keeping that money, and we're also not going to build in programs that effectively use that influx of cash.",
"Nirvana fallacy. So better not to make an effort if it’s not perfect, right?",
"So funny how there is two token mask people while no one else is wearing a mask indoors and was this velociraptor vaccinated? I guess the mask message is going extinct too.",
"The use of altruism as an argument does not work in the long term, just look at the Catholic Church.",
"Capitalism is destroying the planet.",
"And that that podium mic was picking up his voice clearly even when leaning multiple away from it. I call BS.",
"pourquoi non les deux?",
"https://t.me/babysystem",
"Maybe you’re right! This video has 17k+ upvotes now, evidently people think it’s worth watching. If CG dinosaurs convince people this is a problem I’m all for it I suppose.",
"Donkey!",
"\"We won't listen to actual scientists, but this endearing child has become a household name, let's hear her out.\"",
"They don't give a fuck about us",
"If that terrified you, you are very soft.",
"I’m Canadian but also yes for us too.",
"this makes my fenix rise",
"Jack Black",
"Dummies giving away hard earned money is creating a world that allows for people to allow birthing without consequences. If people had to pay for their decisions, capitalism would work, but we have dummies stealing money and giving it to people to have more children than they, and the planet, can sustain.",
"This shit just makes me more pessimistic, ngl",
"I can count on my tail how many minds this changed",
"Yeah I immediately thought \"lizard people\", sadly, myself.",
"pandemic is losing popularity so its on to the next talking point to gain power and increase taxes, climate change.",
">Shit isn't going to change until these people are out of power, and they're not going to be out of power until they're dead of old age.\n\nThis is the key thing right here. Two decades isn't really long enough to have a meaningful impact, most of the people in power had that power before then. Unfortunately, it seems our best bet is letting time take these dumbfucks out.",
"I think I’m stretching it a bit, but imagine this was the climax of a movie. The third act is here, will the UN vote to save the planet or not? The dinosaur comes out, everyone changes their mind, they vote to pass legislation that ends fossil fuel subsidies or whatever! The planet is saved!\n\nIt’s a bit of a reach, but that’s just where my brain went with it. Hopefully it’s not other people’s takeaway.",
"I'm here for the orgies",
"Narrator: They chose extinction.",
"You're right I'm sure that's a big part of it. I wouldn't call it a reasonable position though, it's misinformed. As far as the experts can tell, it's one of the best tools available to us for resolving this problem.",
"Its because online Eco-authoritarianism is pretty rampant online. Combine that with right wing propaganda (which uses the left against itself) it makes realistic change hard.\n\nEdit: I meant to say rampant online.",
"Yeh it's a pretty realistic dream imo",
"No no we got it",
"Well I mean, I’m sharing the talking dinosaur with my friends. So. I dunno. I’m doing my part?",
"In that wiki link you give -\n\n> Carl Sagan among others have raised the prospect of extreme runaway global warming turning Earth into an uninhabitable Venus like planet.\n\nIf your argument is we won't go completely extinct then yes you have a valid argument. If it's that we aren't headed for a climate catastrophe that could very easily turn this world into a barren hellscape then you're wrong, and the [majority of scientists say so](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction).",
"You obviously. I saw you using that plastic straw you monster. /s",
"All of the things you mentioned involve vastly different actions. You can say “people want action on climate change” but the moment you say “well you can’t buy f150s and have to pay $5 or more for gas like a European” they will immediately get pissed",
"Nowhere as eloquent either.",
"Cries in \"Lacerta Files\"",
"lol you pulled that 9 billion out of your ass. 9 billion has easily been spent on the homeless over recent years, including state, city, federal, and private money. Ok, you got every homeless person a dorm…. That doesn’t stop a ton of issues with the homeless population. Think of their lack of jobs and community issues",
"Air travel is currently 4% of emissions which doesn't sound like much but the problem is that the emissions are growing as more of the world develops and people become wealthy enough to afford it. And while other emissions-generating sectors of the economy can be decarbonized, air travel cannot without significant advancements in technology. Electric airplanes are not a realistic engineering possibility without remarkable improvements in battery storage to weight ratio.\n\n So the end result is that it's actually one of the most problematic aspects of industrialized living vis a vis the climate crisis. The only real solution to it is to get people to stop flying. \n\nAnd yes, my friend is wealthy.",
"Name checks out jeesh",
"In this age of heightened awareness over representation, I'm glad to see the lizard people finally on screen. \n\nFinally, our leaders can see someone they can relate to.",
"Wait\n\nI’m sorry\n\nDo we mean $40/gallon of gas? Or literally just a one time fee of $40?\n\nAnd also… if it’s some kind of one time fee… are we dealing with some random person on the street interrupting our day… coming up and saying, “would you like to pay $40 to fight climate change?” OR was this information obtained in a poll?\n\nI have lots of questions. I think even my dad who is a climate change denier is willing to pay $40 one time to fight climate change.",
"This is definitely not how a velociraptor talks.",
"Brainwashed by who exactly? The consensus in my country, the West, and most of the world is neoliberal capitalism. Who is there to brainwash me?\n\nI've simply looked at the state of the world and the inaction and straight up opposition to action on climate change from capitalist nations and their politicians at the behest of their large companies. The fact is under capitalism, profit matters more than the climate.\n\n[Exxon knew about climate change decades ago](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jul/08/exxon-climate-change-1981-climate-denier-funding) and chose to suppress that information while funding deniers in order to continue increasing their profits. Because that's how capitalism works, profit matters above all else.",
"Tell that to [President Koopa](https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/President_Koopa)",
"that was all part of the raptor's hunting strategies - the clapping was encouraged for the distraction so all those delegates wouldn't notice his buddies closing in from multiple other sides",
"It’s how you remind them of government incompetence which is why many Americans want the private sector to have more power",
"LMAO \"Hey expert, how would we solve the climate crisis?\"\n\n\"Gonna take a lot of money\"\n\n\"Ok, lets tax them more\"\n\n\nLets be real, 'experts' are useless when it comes to this shit. What kind of expert can tell you a carbon tax is a wonderful solution? A climate expert? And economics expert? An economic climatologist? \"The experts say\" is the most meaningless and shallow fucking answer out there, and it blows my mind that people just hear 'expert' and go along with whatever the corporate-sponsored media says. Its absurd.",
"2021\n\nThe world is dying.\n\nThe UN releases a video about a velociraptor voiced by Jack Black that warns the world not to go extinct and to end poverty.\n\nI fucking LOVE THIS TIMELINE BABY YESSSSSSSS",
"Okay and what is the UN going to do about it? nothing. \n\nThe UN is the most useless shit on the planet",
"No this is directed at the old fuck in the senate that wants to end “finsta” and has a net worth of $100 million dollars. As well as all his old ass, rich colleagues.",
"lmao you don't even have an argument, because there's nothing to argue. It's two simple facts: 1) capitalism does what's profitable and 2) stopping the use of fossil fuels isn't profitable. Do you think either of those are wrong?",
"You can keyboard warrior definitions all day - it will never change the realities of etymology or descriptive dictionaries. You can find 100 references that label propaganda as \"any material disseminated to people\" but you'll have a much harder time finding someone who doesn't think you're an idiot for using it in that way. \n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda\n\n>In English, propaganda was originally a neutral term for the dissemination of information in favor of any given cause. During the 20th century, however, the term acquired a thoroughly negative meaning in western countries, representing the intentional dissemination of often false, but certainly \"compelling\" claims to support or justify political actions or ideologies.",
"They are right. This will change nothing.",
"I agree with the climate message but I would have liked the dinosaur to eat the rich. \n\nAt the very least, they should have ended with, “I haven’t eaten in a few million years, where can I get a good rich person to eat?”",
"Don't inject your fetish into history, bud",
"According to your fetish, you degenerate dog fucker",
"Eat the rich.",
"Dude dinosaurs still have feathers and fossils have been excavated with feathers",
"I mean, term limits are a possibility and would at least ensure some sort of turnover at a regular pace instead of waiting for the senile retirees to die.",
"Thanks! Issue is (among greed and many others) nirvana fallacy. Best to sit on your sofa do nothing so you cannot be criticized, as whatever you do won’t be perfect. Important initiatives like this are being put down. People are fucking clueless on all the efforts made and fast to criticize those who do act.",
"I think it was target at the USA because they were the only country singled out.",
"Short haul electric flights are closer than you think. A lot of the expensive battery tech that's not ready for electric cars actual works out for aircraft because the economics are different. Your not ever going to get people to permanently give up flight. You are not going to get every country to agree to something that radical especially the wealthy. That's why its a waist of time.\n\nTelling people that you are not allowed to fly ever would be a disaster for any candidate running on that. If none of the things Airbus and Boeing are working on pan out then bio-fuel or carbon capture will be factored into air travel. That might be the one area where bio fuels make sense.\n\nEdit:worse than usual grammar.",
"saying 'DON'T' only triggers MAGAs to want to do it more",
">No raptor I know of were that big.\n\nUtahraptors?",
"Humans are very adaptable, and ingenuity will solve the climate issue, not this whole reworking of how the entire world functions. The reality is that scientific advancement comes from capitalist nations like the US or S. Korea",
"Yuuup!!",
"Air travel would become (and stay) more expensive no doubt - really hard to compete with fossile fuels where you need high energy density both in terms of volume *and* weight. Whether it would become prohibitive is up for debate.\n\nI mean, in a hypothetical world where the entire energy, construction and ground-based transportation sectors became carbon-neutral we could likely easily afford the current level of air traffic. Is that realistic? Does it even reflect what we truly want? Nobody knows. The hope of carbon tax would be to use capitalism to figure it out.",
"More Climate Change, sky-is-falling BS. From a satanist this time.......\n\nFU Jacko!",
"Is that Jack Black voicing the raptor?",
"Nope. Anyone Unironically advocating for communism in the 21st century has brain damage. I stopped taking you seriously after that.",
"> Citizens who will see this and then pressure their democratically elected officials to do something?\n\nThat's the one.",
"Birds are also closely related to lizards. Though more closely related to crocodilians. \n\nBirds *are* reptiles.",
"No, under modern cladistics reptiles does include birds.",
"Stopping climate change is good but this video was cringe",
"I thought the same sounds a lot like him.",
"Love that the raptor is Jack black",
"Voters have agency, and you should exercise that agency to elect politicians that align with your preferences. In the US for climate change, that means Democrats. \n\nI would say that you \"drank the kool aid\" in pretending that both parties are the same, or that voters can't change things.",
"*Clever girl*.",
"I forgot to add that any technology that replaces what we are currently using need to be either close enough to or better than what we are currently using otherwise people won't go for it. Environmentalist have been screaming just do without for 40 years and look at where that has gotten us. That's why its such a losing strategy they are only preaching to those that agree with them.",
"u/Late_emu",
"They?",
"Someone send this to Manchins office. He is currently right now butchering the biggest piece of climate change legislation in the history of our country and two people are absolutely destroying it because they are stakeholders in the fossil fuel industry and get donations from big oil. It’s so fucking wrong.",
"What is eco-authoritarianism?",
"Utahraptors were large and but nowhere near what we see in the video.",
"Jeff Black.",
"On the straw thing, I don't give a fuck. But my wife bought us these metal ones that we've been using and caring around with us. I kinda like them. Def better than paper or plastic straws.",
"choose social democracy\nif every country adopted the nordic model we would be better off.",
"The issue is they will just get corrupted after elected, see Sinema for an example.",
"If we can't stop dickheads from dropping litter rather than walking the extra 3 steps to the bin, a dinosaur voiced by Jack Black isn't going to get people to dramatically change the way in which they live and consume.\n\nThose of us who give a damn are already doing our best to change the way we live. Sadly, a large percentage of the population just don't seem to care.",
"> use the past to inform our decisions so we don't make the same mistakes.\n\n> Is that not what I said in regards to these people still raging over trump 10 months after him being out of office?\n\nNo. You seem to want to pretend the past never happened or, when it's convenient and popular, support Trump or another jokester like him again.\n\nYou are exactly the right person for me to be talking to. You're clearly triggered by the mere mention of Trump and projecting your emotions onto others when all they did is say \"lol Trump was bad at his job\" which is just stating the obvious rather than obsessing.\n\nHell, we still make fun of Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Nixon, Chavez, Bush, Clinton, etc. etc. I think your claims of other people raging is cover for your own misgivings. But then, I'm not your therapist.\n\nRelax, people just making jokes, and Trump's an easy one. Will be for decades yet.",
"A common argument supporting fossil fuel subsidies in the US is that they support thousands of jobs that would otherwise be eliminated due to the decreasing profitability of e.g. coal mining. Setting aside how anti-free-market that is in the first place, the subsidies would still be better spent re-training the workforce or even pivoting the employer's business to something less destructive.",
"Yeah. We do have other options but they're not good. Trying our damndest to get something proactive done (read: barely scratch the surface and face moneyed resistance at every turn)... or straight up authoritarianism (which, gee, that always works so well).",
"This is so corny lmao",
"Video's been live for 2 days now on a youtube channel with 2.02 million subscribers and it's been viewed 210k times, but it's only amassed a staggering 8k likes...",
"Ugh, this is awful.",
"So this is the kind of talking points that climate change deniers and Republicans love, because it always leads to no action. \n\nI'm just going to focus on climate action here. The most recent reconciliation bill has 550 billion in climate spending, the largest in US history. \n\nIn terms of executive action, Biden attempted to pause offshore drilling, but was blocked by a court action. And Biden's executive appointments actually believe in climate change. \n\nPointing to a single election is part of the problem. It takes voting for Democrats in every election to cement change and take more drastic action. For example, the most recent bill could have had more aggressive action if the 50th Democratic senator wasn't from an R+30 state. This could have been avoided as recently as 2018 and 2020 if Florida, Iowa, the Carolinas, and Maine had Democratic senators.\n\nIf you believe that climate change is an existential threat, then take some agency for God's sake. Vote for politicians (Democrats) that actually believe in it. You are part of the problem of you refuse to do so.",
"People who buy bullshit",
"Is that Jack Black?",
"When you make CO2 regulations don't exempt the world biggest polluters in China and India as \"*developing*\" nations.",
"With my sound off, I thought this was relating to old dinosaurs in positions of power making decisions that fuck over all the younger generations because they don’t care, they’ll be dead anyways.",
"What is this Mickey Mouse shit? [just watch this video on nuclear numbnuts](https://youtu.be/k13jZ9qHJ5U)",
"I mean I agree with the message but this is really fucking stupid",
"I agree with you, but unfortunately term limits isn't the reality we are currently living in, at least in the USA.",
"Where are the feathers? So unrealistic.",
"The denial is strong. The American public loves fossil fuels, and choose the politicians and do nothing about it. Just complain on twitter, Facebook, or Reddit",
"Couldn't the carbon tax be used to support nuclear power investment? Why insinuate that the two are mutually exclusive?",
"What a fucking joke. This entire thing just completely confirmed to me beyond a morsel of doubt that climate change is an absolutely fucking joke. Imagine actually spending the time, money, energy, and resources required to make this video instead of spending time, money, energy, and resources actually making a positive difference for climate change.",
"Oh haha thanks. It plays such a big role in my daily life that I forget there are people who might be out of the loop",
"Hey no worries, I appreciate you bringing it to my awareness! I learned a good bit about what the UN is actually doing to counter climate change.",
"themselves. this was public masturbation",
"Yeah I think that if we had an otherwise net zero economy then flights would be permissible, though we would probably still need some carbon capture technology. As it stands though, they present a massive problem that is very hard to solve.",
"Who called the Velocipastor?",
"Its also because its an extremely complex thing in practice. I think very few western countries want to be first and they wait for other countries to try it first. Sweden almost has it in practice. If you don't have a job or money you can apply to get money from the state every month and a place to live. It's not seen as an income though but more as support. Many people live of it though.",
"i prefer [blah blah blah](https://youtu.be/UryIL4kUcx8?t=24)",
"So you'll just let extinction be chosen for you then? As though you're not part of a greater chain? Jesus.. the learned helplessness is real.. \n\nOrganize, educate, get active. Try something. At least you'll get to die in the wasteland knowing you did.",
"Us doesn't get veto power one very resolution, just the security council. Blockades are security, climate change isn't necessarily. \n\nThe veto power exists to get countries like China and Russia (and the US, though that's more because we helped create the organization) to the table in the first place. Getting powerful countries to submit to the rule international organization is incredibly difficult, since it gives tiny countries outsized power over them.\n\nIt's not a perfect system, and absolutely should be modernized to reflect current security power, which brings me to the second part: a veto isn't meant to be used as often as it has, it is meant to be a stand-in for actual military action. The UN, after all, replaced the league of nations with a primary goal of connecting countries to prevent world wars.\n\n Its the same as saying, sure, I'm outvoted, but my military is bigger than the bottom 50% of you put together, if you pass this resolution I will use my military to prevent it.",
"I mean I agree that trying to make real change is a waste of time. The truth is that we need a reduction in the standard of living for developed countries and that's not something any politician will endorse. And that's why we will hurtle into massive environmental disruption. No one actually gives a shit.",
"Yeah metal ones are good and dont mind using them at restaurants but im not going to carry straws with me and businesses wont give away metal straws woth drinks. Honestly all that has to be done is creste some sort of good biodegradable straws. Papers straws are trash and dont work. Those sippy cup lids as an alternative use kore or the same plastic as a standard lid with a plastic straw. I simply dont like the fake outrage over using plastic straws. Its boggles the mind but im in thr minority apparently.",
"Social democracy isn't socialism. it's closer to socialism than we are, and a good system, but it's democratic capitalism with high taxes and a safety net.",
"The answer to \"what type of expert\" is [pretty much all of them](https://citizensclimatelobby.org/who-supports-a-price-on-carbon/). Please don't be too hasty to write it off as some secret corporate scheme, given that it's economists and climate scientists pushing for it, and corporations would be the ones paying the tax.",
"UN has too much money",
"Corporations are not going to pay the tax. Come on, you know better than that.",
"Bully != International pariah. We are still seen as the preferable polar power(by western democracy's) compared to what the USSR was or what china has signalled they will be.",
"Sounds like buddy from community",
"Cause y'all screwed our future up and are keeping us from doing anything about it.",
"It suggests lawmakers are taking voter preferences into account while making laws.\n\nEvidence that voting matters.",
"Except mad has a bazillion issues that keep it from being 100% effective.",
"> The first article literally says it will fuck poor people unless you recycle the money back to those people via a dividend check?\n\nNo, it says that assumption is not correct.",
">they're both preventing the fire department from putting out the fire\n\nActually not true, it takes 60 votes to put out a fire and democrats consistently vote to action.",
"Everyone is a rotating member afaik",
"I’m just happy the UN publicly admitted that climate change will result in human extinction",
"While I kind of use it as a catch all this is pretty accurate.\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecoauthoritarianism\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecofascism\n\nI excluded Eco-socialism because it can go either way on being authoritarian.\n\nWhile your average environmentalist don't support this stuff it is embedded in a lot of their philosophies. So on one hand you have your average person who's concerned about climate change and wants clean energy, better meat alternatives, electric cars. etc. On the other hand (especially on the internet) you have people who think that the only way to save the planet is to force everyone to live a hyper minimalist life. \n\nSince people don't want to live like that they get mad and decide the only way to get people to live like this is through force. Which means bypassing democratic processes and violating human rights (or constitutional rights) if they see fit. Also replacing capitalism with a system that basically rations everything. De-growthers sometimes get into this but not always.\n\nThe problem with this is no one is going to accept a system that makes their lives demonstratively worse than what they currently have. So at best they help muddy the water and at worse they give the far-right in the US tons of ammunition. They erode trust in achievable policy and drive more people to the far right.",
"They will if we make them. Also, it's not like the individuals who make up those corporations want to destroy the Earth. They just don't want to get stuck paying their fair share while others skate free, just like everyone else. In fact, the big fossil fuel companies like [Exxon Mobil and BP support a carbon tax](https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresaghilarducci/2019/03/11/why-big-business-might-welcome-a-carbon-tax/?sh=7eec17002b5d).",
"I thought they went away with the rapture?",
"https://youtu.be/yiw6_JakZFc",
"They can't dispose of the fiberglass blades is problem #1. CF blades has a process but I don't know how widespread it is yet. Of course they turn it back into a fuel to power machines, so we kind of just continue the burning of fuels to create pollution...\n\nI will say the wiki on this is quite interesting ([here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_wind_power)) - At the start of the intro they say when comparing environmental impact of a turbine creation/use:\n\n>*The environmental impact of wind power is relatively minor when compared to that of fossil fuel power.*\n\nThen towards the bottom of the paragraph in regards to habitat and fragmentation:\n\n>*However, many details, as well as the overall impact from the growing number of turbines, remain unclear.*\n\nSeems kinda like they don't know as much as they want to sound like they do. But it produces less CO2 per megawatt so it's considered a win.\n\n[Here](https://undecidedmf.com/episodes/the-truth-about-wind-turbines-how-bad-are-they) talks about recycling but mentions that it can be done to most of the components and what countries are doing. But without regulation in this sector I don't think anyone is going to pay for deconstruction and recycling unless they have to, at least here in the US, so it is effectively waste now. Plenty of room for cheap innovation to gain a footing tho.",
"Should have ended with him going on a rampage and killing everyone regardless of their country of origin. That would have been cute.",
"Doesn't really matter if you vote or not, either. Any gains in reductions will just be eaten up by other counties you have no influence over. Even if the US and Europe emissions went to zero, it would just give China more breathing room to continue until we're at the breaking point anyway.",
"Climate change action costs money.\n\nRepublicans don't believe in climate change action. \n\nI'm not sure what the point of your comment is.",
"**[Environmental impact of wind power](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_wind_power)** \n \n >The environmental impact of wind power is relatively minor when compared to that of fossil fuel power. Compared with other low-carbon power sources, wind turbines have one of the lowest global warming potentials per unit of electrical energy generated by any power source. According to the IPCC, in assessments of the life-cycle global warming potential of energy sources, wind turbines have a median value of between 15 and 11 (gCO2eq/kWh) depending on whether offshore or onshore turbines are being assessed.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)",
"I mean, nothing is impossible, but based on current scientific understanding, it's not going to happen, with high confidence, since all scenarios that are considered even remotely realistic are far from extinction conditions. Remember that humans have survived in the Arctic and in deserts, without modern technology. Civilization is easy to break, which could render our population numbers unsustainable, but the human species is hard to kill off.\n\nI was referring to governments around the world saying that masks don't help to discourage a rush to the limited supplies. That way they both laid the foundation for all the anti-maskers *and* destroyed the credibility of official statements.",
"Unfortunately we live in a society where people celebrity culture is far more accessible and effective at disseminating information. Sad truth",
"No, you don’t understand. They will not be paying the tax. They will pass along costs, while supporting legislation that makes it more difficult for any other company to break into the market. \n\nMight want to ponder a bit as to WHY those corporations support that tax.",
"I don't see Joe Biden liking the possibility of being the president who 'left the UN.'\n\nA Republican president wouldn't care, but Democrats pretend at least like they care.",
"It's an example I'm using for how ineffectual the UN is.",
"I mean, America is the majority of the earth's problems right now.",
"Fuck off and go nuclear you shill.",
"The average person can do a whole lot to enact massive changes. It just usually ends up with them in prison or dead.",
"The UN existed throughout the cold war and into modern day and it doesn't prevent major powers waging proxy wars throughout the world, so your point is null.",
"I prefer velicipastor. An amazing movie on Amazon prime. You should watch it immediately.",
"This makes absolutely zero sense, since up until this point the 'elite class' had promoted growth, spending and individualism as a way to enrich and empower themselves. A disunited, misinformed people dependent upon consumerism is a carefully crafted way to control people developed over nearly a century. Why would they pivot now?\n\nThis is a nonsense argument. The article on ecoauthoritarianism is barely even sourced.",
"Something I’d like to see a reminder of daily. Help spread the word and pass on the energy for change.",
"Stfu, start telling the people that’s really responsible for polluting our countries (AKA Corporations)",
"https://en-roads.climateinteractive.org/scenario.html?v=2.7.11",
"Hush, tankie.",
"I can see who doesn’t have a job from a fucking mile away LOL. \n\nYou’re basically saying “if you don’t live in a part of the world that has effective and easily accessible public transportation, good luck doing fucking anything”\n\nWe’re already seeing this now with the insane inflation caused by the stimulus checks, I make a decent amount straight out of college and even I’m having a hard time paying my gas when it’s literally 56 dollars per tank now.\n\nFuck you, fuck all of you who think the grand solution to this problem is telling everyone on the bottom to eat taxes that’ll shaft us so hard we either live on the knifes edge of our fingernails, or just fucking die when we get fired from our jobs for not being able to come in.\n\nNuclear power exists, and you morons wanna keep your heads in the sand for.. well for what idk? I guess it’s just fun to ignore the single most effective solution to your problem, and opt to tell everyone else “pay more money, just accept it 😃😃”.",
"The atmosphere doesn't care that per capita 10 billion tonnes of Co2 China emits is much better than the 5.1 billion America emits. In fact, I think the only entity on Earth that thinks that's important are teenagers with a Mao Zedong fixation.",
"Just more BS nobody is going to listen nor care about. \n\nSure put some fancy shit up, but this is just a cartoon.\n\nPeople need instant repercussions for not doing what they should be doing.\n\nBut once again those with the money and power fill up on greed.\n\nThese people don't care about a fucking dinosaur and a shitty speech.\n\nThese people need to be fucked over if they don't decide to do something.\n\nThose consequences need to be impactful enough for them to shit their pants. \n\nOne maybe an entire dozen would change and realise, because they have empathy. \n\nThese fucks that really need to act, that can change the world, will burn the world.\n\nPeople are scorpions sitting on a frogs back.\n\nSpeech is good but it's just glass and mirror BS, just like what I'm writing.\n\nNot enough people that can change the world, will not nor care too.",
"There always seems to be stuff getting in their way. The Republicans are able to get their shit done all the time. They fucked the usps with the prefunding mandate, passed citizens united, got a majority on the Supreme Court, and seemingly blocked everything the democrats have supposedly been trying to accomplish. They couldn't even do anything meaningful during Obama's suoermajority. Either they cynically use McConnell, Sinema, Manchin, or some other reason as an excuse to not being able to pass stuff they pretend to care about, or they are so incompetent that they are identical to a cynical party. Meanwhile, they claim that you must vote for them because every election is the most important election, and actively stifle any productive action from the left",
"Yes corporations will raise prices in response to the tax, that's an expected phenomenon. In fact, it's the mechanism by which carbon emissions are reduced. Higher prices result in lower consumption, which results in less carbon emitted. Corporations support the tax because it would be good for them. I support carbon taxes because they would be good for me as a regular citizen with no ties to Big Oil or whoever else. Everyone involved has self-interested reasons for supporting carbon taxes **and** they work.",
"\"Save your species before it's too late!\"\n\nNarrator: \"They didn't.\"",
"What point are you trying to make here? Biden and the Democrats are doing exactly what you suggest. And they would do more with more Democrats. \n\nSaying \"nothing happened\", or that Biden will do nothing for the climate is absolutely a Republican talking point, because it depresses Democratic turnout and stops climate action.",
"Dinosaurs are Birds, not lizards.",
"exactly what is the effort applied here? the result is intentionally intangible so that the creators can claim that its effect is for some obscure long term goal when in reality the UN are the ones who have the power to actually make changes...so why make a meme youtube video to share with everyone outside of the UN who can't make any real change?",
"If you think D's are good and the R's are terrible, or the R's are good and the D's are terrible, you bought into their game. They're all terrible",
"https://youtu.be/w6n-oTNMWkI",
"Yea what the fuck is anyone who this appeals to able to do about climate change? World leaders will not see this, nor give a shit about it.",
"Corporations would not support them if they were bad for business, nor would they support them if it led to a stagnation or reduction in consumption of their products. \n\nSo how do you figure corporations benefit from the tax?",
"the video is posted by the UN who have actual power in comparison to the youtube audience they are trying to relate to; maybe instead of wasting resources trying to 'grassroots' a movement that won't see results for decades after it's too late, perhaps we stop kicking the can down to the impressionable children of the future and ACTUALLY crack down on the offending parties",
"at least with most advertising there can be a tangible effect of seeing a product sell more units or whatever; the only product being pushed by the UN here is ineptitude",
"You're not going to win over poor or middle class Americans or Europeans by telling them that their life is about to be permanently crappier. I have heard environmentalist talk about the pandemic as a good thing that will get us used to living \"simpler lives\". Crashing the entire global economy did little for emissions (and added a ton of anti-depressants to our water supply). This mentality has been a losing strategy for the last 40 years. \n\nWhat we can change is HOW we produce things. If people didn't give a shit there would be no progress in renewables, batteries and the like. That has all been happening in spite of fossil fuel companies meddling. That's what we need to get politicians to do is help promote the deployment of those systems. Environmentalist also need to learn how to sacrifice their sacred cows like nuclear power if we need that to ease the transition. That means they need to stop using the law and lawsuits for things that they may not like but might be needed for transitioning to a zero carbon economy. \n\nPart of the reason progress is so slow is that environmentalist are always letting perfect be the enemy of good or at least whats possible.",
"i'm sure the same mantra has been echoed by politicians since politics began, but I was more referring specifically to this specific batch of geriatrics who do nothing but preserve their own power",
"Son, were you born on Reddit?",
"Because the destruction of the planet is bad for business?",
"Don’t think you know what a tankie is",
"Birds are reptiles? How many reptiles do you know that are covered in feathers, endothermic, have a 4 chambered heart, bipedal, have only 3 and 4 digits, are hollow boned, fused collarbone, keeled breastbone, have a unique and highly efficient unidirectional breathing pattern that never leaves them without fresh air, raise their young, have a larger brain, etc?\n\nAt best crocodiles have a 4 chambered heart albeit structurally different than birds and some female alligators will assist their young to water at birth.",
"this video was posted by the UN...is the binary for the UNITED NATIONS do nothing or post a dinosaur youtube video?",
"Nope, this is exactly the point I'm trying to fight against. \n\nDemocrats believe in climate action, Republicans don't. So vote for more Democrats if you want more climate action. It's just that simple.",
"Second it. I like shows like this that have aspects of both smart humor and really stupid/crude stuff.\n\nI have struggled to find new adult animation that I really can get into because I feel like a lot of it is just pre-teen content with swearing, drugs, and explicit sexual references.",
"yea but you have to trust the very people who would be usurped to enact rules that would restrict themselves. unlikely.",
"So why don’t you pay for it and leave everyone else alone?",
"lizards?",
"Albertasaurus Einstein. \n\nI know its not a velocirapter but technicly nether was the video so I think it's fine.",
"Birds are basically reptiles bro",
"Or possibly just playing it directly as it is embedded into the Reddit app, where it doesn’t show the whole title and hides it once the video starts playing.",
"I'm not saying it is the same at all.",
"It’s true, it would be a difficult adjustment, even for me. But it’s also the fairest thing to do. If folk needs financial help then we can address that. If wages need to increase to account for increased transportation costs, then we can address that. \n\nBut congrats on entirely missing the point, and then completely misinterpreting what I said. \n\nYou aren’t special, and you don’t get to freely pollute our earth without consequence. You, me, everyone should be expect to pay the true cost of the things we consume. \n\nAnd again, energy sourcing is only a minor part of what humanity needs to address here.",
"That’s just typical antivelociraptor rhetoric.",
"you can stop contributing yes https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49238749",
"stop eating fish and seafood and you do your part",
"It is a Republican talking point, because Republicans want people to think both parties are equally bad. \n\nIf you think Republicans and Democrats are the same, especially on climate change, then yikes. The Democrats are about to pass a 550 billion climate bill. Biden has appointed officials to agencies like the EPA that will actually consider climate impact. At a state level, Democratic governors implement various incentives (exactly like you suggest) to fight climate change. Democratic administrations consistently tighten emission standards.\n\nWhether you like it or not, this is about politics. Because it will take governmental action to fight climate change, and only one party in the US is remotely interested in doing it. \n\nLobbyists can be beat with more votes. The more Democrats there are, the less influence these lobbyists have.",
"> I was more referring specifically to this specific batch of geriatrics who do nothing but preserve their own power\n\nThey might as well be [clones] (https://youtu.be/LsF4c06txHM?t=271). If you can, try to find a translation of the whole conference, or its stenogram to pop into GTranslate. It's yummy if you like irony.\n\nEarly 60s are kinda remote and not readily understandable by the modern people, but the Emergency Committee speeches are very relatable - as in, this is the same bullshit, word-for-word, that we've heard at COP26 and such. The vast country, on the world in our case, is falling apart in real time and all they can muster is vaguely-worded promises made in a decisive tone, and BS about \"models\", \"projections\", \"adaptations\" and such, and of course \"educating the world leaders of tomorrow\". Because that's all they've got.",
"A bit ridiculous...\n\nWho are they putting this video to?? The UN is made of representatives of every country. Instead of wasting money of CGI, just tell your governments. It's your responsibility!\n\nJust do it, don't make youtube videos.",
">The only catch22 is a climate argument in which developing countries play by the same rules as developed countries. As I've said now 3 times or so, you would need to sweeten the deal for them.\n\nthat's not what a catch 22 is, but either way this is where this whole thing hinges. the power at be (let's say the UN) has no real power to stop countries from just saying that 'no, we don't want to follow those rules' and 'sweetening the pot' will often amount to actively letting them not follow those rules. it's fun to devolve your end of the conversation into condescension but if it were as straight forward as you suggest, it would already be in effect. the burden of proof in the argument is on your side, as my side explains how it is whereas yours explains how it should be; their is no inertia to get over with my argument because we are already here, as you say 'doing nothing'. \n\nmy initial comment was calling criticism to your notion that the West should shoulder the responsibility for the rest of the world in saving the planet when the rest of the planet would be essentially actively working against them. I haven't budged from that point as made clear by my condemnation of allowing the larger developing nations to fester. the GDP point is a good one, but again all China has to say is no and there is no real power to make them say yes. \n\nnot sure how you came to the conclusion that this last quote was your argument; you're whole point was to have developed countries shoulder the check and that exact quote says that nobody would ever agree to sabotage their own country for the sake of the other countries. it couldn't be more against your point.",
"Yes. Birds are reptiles. That’s accepted by pretty much every evolutionary biologist. \n\nReptilia consists of the Lepidosaurs (the tuataras and the squamates), testudines (turtles), and archosaurs (birds and crocodilians). \n\nIt’s not even debated that crocodilians are more closely related to birds than any other modern reptiles. So the only options are that crocodilians are not reptiles, or birds are.",
"25% percent of global greenhouse gases, almost all land loss and ocean deadzones is caused my animal aggriculture. If people actually cared they would eat plants.",
"Climate change is a problem that affects everyone, and presents a classic tragedy of the commons situation. I'm happy to pay my share. \n\nIf you're anti-climate change action, ok, just admit that. My comments are geared towards people that care about climate change.",
"I honestly think that global warming by ozone depletion through rapid population growth, is our inevitable end unfortunately. We are just not strong enough at this point in time as a species to rebalance the scales tipped by rapid growth and ignorance in the past.",
"Or. And I’m gonna say this real slowly for your smooth brain to comprehend it cause you completely ignored that part of what I said. \n\nWE. COULD. SHIFT. TO. NUCLEAR. POWER.\n\nThank you for coming to my Ted talk, and keep licking the boots of all these politicians trying to push this carbon tax while they fly their private jets and do fuck all themselves.\n\nYou by all means, pay 25 dollars a gallon. Me, with a realistic perspective on what cost is since I have a job and have people to support, will tell you and everyone else pushing this shit to fuck themself.\n\nThe sheer autism emanating from the idea that the “solution” to climate change is to take a sawed off shotgun to the knees of the economy and decimate the overwhelming majority of people’s ability to LIVE ANYWAYS, is mind boggling to me.",
"But what about creating value for shareholders?",
"I dunno, I just had one a few nights ago where I was living inside of a kind of Pokémon RPG type game, where the Pokémon were all life size and I could fly around the area I was in like Breath of the Wild. A woman who was supposed to be my grandmother and also a powerful rich old woman was trying to kill me and the young brides I was trying to rescue from their arranged marriages. There was something else involving a windmill, a strange man, musical instruments, and zip lining but I forget that part.",
"73% of people want to be taxed into Oblivion? Bulshit pally.",
"You seem like a nice and level headed person",
"Jesus you are dumb. \n\nElectricity *and* heating only accounts for 25% of global co2 emissions. How are you going to solve for the other 75% dumbfuck?\n\nYou’re shitting the idea of ensuring externalities are baked into cost, without understanding that it would likely ensure a full switch to nuclear power, simply due to the economics. Right now “SHIFT. TO. NUCLEAR. POWER.” ISNT. FUCKING. ECONOMICAL. And how do you make it economical? Well, by utilizing tools like carbon tax. \n\nHave you learned something yet, or are you grasping onto that ignorance still?",
"When did I say I didn't vote?",
"I think you can do better than that reductionist bullshit lmao",
"I've voted every year since I turned 18. All that's happened since is fuck all. The climate problem has continuously gotten worse and no one in power gives a fuck because they'll all be rotting in the ground when it matters",
"I won't discount the complexity at all, but if the right person becomes affected by it, it can roll out in a couple of months in many countries easily. Look at how fast most of the world suddenly turned around on marijuana for example.",
"I'd gather this goes hand in hand with what I'm saying. An issue will only matter to someone who's powerful enough to change it when they reach a critical mass of people who's votes would actually affect them, they need a big enough issue for their political face, or a movement grows large enough that a powerful enough person has joined it out of altruism.",
"The cannabis stuff is going well but I guess that was simpler in terms of seeing how much cash it would generate vs relatively little harm. Personally I really like the concept of UBI . I would love that people are entitled to a basic ok life without having to work. Majority of people would like to work anyway so I'm not afraid that massive amount of people would just settle with UBI. A few will but that's ok and it would probably be for a while until they figure out what they want to do. \n\nBut I do think that some country needs to take a lead. Just like with weed. The states in the US are good examples. They took the lead and showed that it can work. Then cannada and now others follow.",
"8 year old boys.",
"So you are telling me, there is no corruption in deciding who gets what contracts to fix roads in socialist countries?\nNah I'm sure the choice for a politician to pick his son and his guys to do it had nothing to do with cronyism or nepotism.\nNo you sir are confusing human nature and capitalism. You can't escape greed, no matter what system we implement.\n\nI want subsidies gone in America. Fuck corporate handouts.\nSigned a crazy Laissez-Faireist.",
"Are we all going to ignore the fact that the UN wasted money making this video, only to complain about wasted money in it?",
"Given the track record humans have, I disagree that extinction would be a bad thing.",
"You need both. We need to change how we produce things and we also need to reduce our demand for those things. There isn't really such a thing as a zero impact source of energy, even solar panels and wind turbines have emissions and pollution associated with their production. Nuclear would be the best option but it's never going to happen. \n\nMy goal here is just to look at objective reality. I don't give a shit if people are upset by the idea that they need to reduce their lifestyle. It's the hard truth whether or not people like it.",
"I don't think it's more complicated than that. The people who make up corporations are rational humans who can see that if nothing is done the results will be bad for everyone.\n\nThe reason they don't voluntarily cut emissions on their own is because it's a [prisoner's dilemma](https://ncase.me/trust/). Cutting back on your own emissions hurts you and accomplishes nothing unless everyone does the same. Therefore we need everyone to agree to cut their emissions at the same time.",
"JFC. is this for real?",
"Who is this for? I love the message’s content, but it’s just words. Is the intent with this video to make greedy and corrupt politicians that are already bought by fossil fuel companies to think twice? \n\nIt won’t work. Those people are evil. All they care about are their bribes. \n\nWe need something more radical and direct than a silly YouTube video.",
"LOL “shift to nuclear power isn’t economical”, and your carbon tax IS economical?? \n\nRead the last paragraph I wrote above, until you autists can solve the last sentence, we ain’t cooperating. Some of us have families to support without you cunts coming in and telling us “oh just pay literally 200% more per gallon, which is the only way you can get to work, and if you can’t? Well, tough luck”. \n\nNuclear power has every single benefit your asshats are looking for in renewable energy, and no I never said switch the whole fucking power grid overnight? But if you mean to tell me that removing 25% of all carbon emissions isn’t enough to have a positive effects on the global climate, then I guess I DONT CARE enough at that point. \n\nI DO care about supporting my family, and I’m not going to pay your climate tax if it means we can’t pay our fucking mortgage cause I can’t get to work since gas is 20 dollars a gallon. But I clearly can see you don’t understand that argument since you’re probably sheltered and have 0 responsibilities.",
"The technological solution to removing carbon from the atmosphere is a farce. The technology doesn't exist, and barely more than theoretical at this point. Carbon capture technologies are touted by politicians and proponents or the status quo to qualm frustrations and delay climate action for the sake of corporations. Don't get me wrong, it's worth investing in research for these technologies, but treating them as a panacea to our ills is a very deliberate and pernicious lie.",
"what makes you think that my condescension toward you is unearned?\n\ndrawing conclusions from incomplete/non-existent information - classic con",
"The elite are not the ones who promote this kind of thinking. This comes from elements of the environmentalist movement and parts of academia. Authoritarianism is a common theme in environmentalist opinion pieces. Controlling what people can and can't do economically and individually is authoritarian by nature. You mention the Elites as one entity even thought the last century has many different \"elites\" promoting different ideologies all causing their own degree of horror. \n\nHere is another source that has quotes from various people claiming democracy should be supplanted quoting people like James Lovelock. You have redditors saying things like Ted Kaczynski was right. \n\nhttps://www.thegovernancepost.org/2020/10/playing-with-fire-green-dreams-of-eco-authoritarianism/\n\nIf that's not enough then just go look around the internet you will find that mentality all over the place. Also go pic up some of the books that are actually sourced in the wiki.\n\nI'm not criticizing mainstream environmentalist but the radicals that promote authoritarianism.\n\nThere is a long history in academia of promoting that kind of thinking.",
"There is only one Sinema and one Manchin-how are we not protesting them the way we did Trump?",
"So is it the elite, academics or environmentalists? Which one has power? This doesn't make sense. In what way are environmentalists activists linked with oligarchic power structures? How do they have even remotely the same interests?\n\nAnd in what world was Ted Kaczynski pro authoritarian? Why have you linked me to a student magazine?\n\nWhat are you talking about? This is all completely disjointed and makes no sense at all.",
"So you see absolutely zero reason for corporate support of this other than pure goodwill?",
"Chickens",
"And then they didn’t",
"Oh look another idiot who think any legitimate criticism of Israel is just antisemites. Nowhere did the Jewish religion was brought up in his comment, stop with that propaganda excuse they keep using to absolve themselves of any fault.",
"I love you. Don't ever change. If I had 17 gold id give it to you 🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇",
"That was actually very presumptuous of me, I'm sorry.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nStill, no friend of the CCP is a friend of mine.",
"It's not pure goodwill, it's self-interest. Carbon taxes are a win-win for everyone.",
"Wrong",
"Porky no less ducks?",
"[Irrational and rational actors are defined academic terms in economics, poli sci, international relations, etc., not just general descriptions.](https://online.norwich.edu/academic-programs/resources/5-key-approaches-to-foreign-policy-analysis#:~:text=The%20most%20widely%20cited%20foreign,perceived%20benefits%20to%20the%20state.)",
"Honestly, the statement sounds like some smug over-simplification by someone that doesn't grasp the full enormity of the problem at hand. \n\nIt's the kind of statement that gives the impression the one making it doesn't understand human beings, logistics, time scales, or really anything required to productively discuss what needs to be done. \n\nThe less said in reply the better, I think.",
"You are missing the economic pressures, the social pressures, discontent, ingovernability, institutional crisis, productivity loss, the destruction of private property, the loss of investments due to instability, the stock market, etc. You seem to be married to this simplistic conception of powerful individuals. It is all an entangled web of interconnections. Power is soft and maleable, and it's nature can change in a very short time. I would recommend reading some Foucalt. His later works, not the early ones.",
"After seeing our response from covid? I'm not even convinced we could survive an asteroid like the dinosaurs by nuking it.\n\nWe would have some parts of the population arguing that we should not interfere with God's plan and let the asteroid kill us.\n\nConservative politicians would of course deny the existence of the asteroid entirely and fund disinformation campaigns while secretly building mega bunkers or space stations to protect themselves and their rich donors.\n\nCapitalist billionaires would of course be arguing about the costs of nuking an asteroid and the rare metals that could be profitable if we just let the asteroid hit.",
"No (see 1). They are descended from reptiles through dinosaurs. I will grant that according to cladistics they are reptiles but according to cladistics humans would be fish. In cladistics, all descendant groups stay within the parent group. Having birds in a paraphyletic group like reptiles creates problems in taxonomy because reptiles are traditionally defined as not including mammals or birds. Also the term reptile would lose meaning when including a broad range of characteristics. Cladistics have tried to introduce a monophyletic group called Sauropsida that resolves this issue to include birds and dinosaurs. You may be thinking of Sauropsida because in cladistics will mean that when saying reptile. (See the section on “Phylogenetics and modern definition” in the same Wikipedia article for the difficulties of reconciling birds and reptiles). We can go round and round on this if you want, but I don’t see why as biologists and taxonomists are still contentious on this. \n\n1) “Reptiles, as most commonly defined, are the animals in the class Reptilia /rɛpˈtɪliə/, a paraphyletic grouping comprising all amniotes except synapsids (mammals and their extinct relatives) and Aves (birds).[1] “ — https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptile",
"See my response to the other guy.",
"I would say you need to look up how things like regulatory capture work before believing everything you're told",
"What the hell, making plastics doesn't release that plastic to the atmosphere. It was a loaded question as I work in plastics and I know that people equate plastics pollution with climate change, but they are actually two separate issues. \n\nYou can't say X material is good or bad, because you don't know the context in which it's used. The goal is to reduce carbon emissions and this can be achieved by making more durable products, in some instances a plastic product will be many times longer lasting than one made of steel or especially wood.",
"Indeed",
"I expected this to end with The Doctor whipping out the sonic screwdriver and realizing \"That's not a dinosaur.\"",
"> discontent\n\nI don't think enough people will get to this point, a lot of people are still living better than at any other point in human history. It'll only change when peoples' actual livelihoods are at stake.",
"The world where Ted Kaczynski says we need to destroy industrial civilization. Don't you think a lot of people are going to lose their lives and liberties if that were to happen. Why would it just be one group. You know there is a lot of crossover between groups. Its not a binary for those three groups to have some intersection. I linked that article because it had the quotes of people who talk about using authoritarian measure to tackle climate change. If you want you can find those quotes by themselves elsewhere. The fact that someone who wants to destroy all technology isn't proof enough of authoritarianism is all I need to know about how the rest of the conversation is going to go. Also do you own research im not going to spend the rest of the day writing a novel for you.",
"Obviously corruption is always possible. That doesn't make a carbon tax any less effectual. Many countries have already succeeded in implementing one. There's no reason we can't as well. Don't let cynicism blind you to potential solutions.",
"Were fucked.",
"Weird stuff",
"Hard to not be cynical when the solution is handing over more money with no clear goals on how its spent.",
"> I would love that people are entitled to a basic ok life without having to work.\n\nI don't even think most plans have it like that. It's usually like you simply have enough money to keep you fed with adequate living conditions, but if you want anything on top of that, you'd need to supplement UBI with a job, even if it's part-time, or temporary, which is what most employers are already doing anyway.",
"Of course it wasn't. But hey he does sound like him a bit.",
"It doesn't matter how it's spent. Carbon taxes solve the problem just by putting a price on carbon. Yes we should spend it on worthwhile things, like a dividend paid out to the poor who are negatively impacted by it, but it will work regardless.",
"Aw fuck I think I remember seeing an advert for this years ago, never did watch it though\n\nThanks for reminding me",
"Wow. You literally don’t get it. You’re tilting at windmills. \n\nOn top of being astoundingly dense, you are also an incredible asshole. So congrats at being above average at at least two things. \n\nSigned, a fourth year old dude with a family and a career and a mortgage, etc. Go fuck yourself.",
">Its not a binary for those three groups to have some intersection.\n\nLike what?\n\n>Also do you own research\n\nI have. I work in the environmental sector. You are just completely making things up. What you are spouting is objectively a fantasy.",
"If you have the money to pay astronomical prices on gas, whilst still managing to support your family, then I assure you asshole, this problem does not affect you in any way shape or form. In fact it reinforces my notion that the main demographic pushing your autistic policy are ivory tower rich people who CAN afford to shoulder that cost when 90% of everyone else CANNOT.\n\nIf it does however, and you’re willing to jeopardize your family and your livelihood for your precious climate tax, then you are the world’s biggest cuck without contest.\n\nSo, *kindly*, touché motherfucker.",
"It absolutely matters how its spent, are you out of your mind?",
"For the purpose of reducing the quantity of carbon in the atmosphere, no it doesn't matter how it's spent. As long as it's not used to put more carbon in the air it will work.",
"You might have a point if any of our democracies actually worked how they should.\n\nlol at trying to blame people and spouting some “South Park way of life where nothing matters” BS. Like where do you come up with this stuff? Jesus what a horrible take. The fact you got upvoted and people think what you said makes any sense at all is more of a problem than a “South Park way of life.”\n\nLike really. Extremely ignorant of you to say some shit like that.",
"lmao it will not. Its a wealth transfer scheme.",
"I guarantee if people in power stood up and stopped taking the money, actual heads would roll.",
"A lot of people are not. And we know what's coming.",
"By the time they decide to start changing it’ll be way way to late!",
"Large corporations will never care about the well being of anyone but themselves. I hate to say this but it isn't their fault. Assume the worst when dealing with a corporation. The only party that gets it's sovereignty from the population and should therefore give a shit is the government. This is a government problem and always has been.",
"Reminds me of D.A.R.E",
"I’m totally fine with normalizing the dialog against fossil fuel. You don’t get anywhere by not saying anything.",
"Ah fair enough, didn't remember that",
"Do you have an argument to make? If it's a carbon tax with a dividend returned directly to taxpayers, how exactly is that a wealth transfer scheme?",
"Yeah on Reddit... That's not YouTube.",
"oh my...\n\njust....oh my.",
"But there is also the advertising world of the ad agencies. Where you just create an ad for a good cause (that doesn't change anything) just so you can submit it to win a Cannes Lion and get more clients. \n\n\nJust like when some agency created the bank notes of the trash island [http://www.panthalassa.org/the-trash-isles-an-official-country/](http://www.panthalassa.org/the-trash-isles-an-official-country/)\n\nIts a [whole category](https://www.canneslions.com/support/awards-support/awards-for-good)",
"Traditional taxonomy doesn’t really matter. We don’t use linnean taxonomy very much. Cladistics is the most widely used model. \n\nAlso, fine if you take crocodilians out of reptiles. If they are then birds are. If birds aren’t then crocodilians aren’t. It’s that simple because crocs are so much more related to birds than any other reptile.",
"How is it returned directly to taxpayers?",
"Allegedly.",
"Better than being a furry",
"All good haha. Hacking with computer viruses and recycling",
"Write a check to each taxpayer for carbon_tax_revenue / number_of_taxpayers.",
"After the government takes their cut, obviously. And the people use it to buy more products. \n\nSolves nothing",
"> After the government takes their cut, obviously.\n\nHold your representatives accountable.\n\n> And the people use it to buy more products. Solves nothing\n\nThey buy more products, but if they buy an alternative that requires less carbon to produce they get a better deal because it has a lower carbon tax. Now greener products are encouraged. \n\nEither way, the damage carbon does to the environment is added to the price of the goods that require it, which lowers demand, which reduces carbon in the atmosphere, which solves the climate crisis.",
"You just don't expect to ever have to change your lifestyle. You are the selfish piece of shit here. It does affect me. It affects the earth, it affects all of us. \n\n\"JuST SwiTcH To NuCLeAr!!\" as if that wouldn't ALSO result in astronomical costs for energy in this country. As if enacting a carbon tax wouldn't also promote the usage of nuclear energy.\n\nYou need to do better for your family, if you are unable to for them without also stealing value of the earth from the rest of us. You are literally stealing from the commons to support your lifestyle. \n\nSeriously, get fucked, right-wing trash. This country would be so much better off without your fucking brain-dead backwards ideas holding us back.",
"Conservatives: You lost me at helping poor people in other countries",
"I'll have you know that is not just any random person. That is u/smartas and he is the most knowledgeable person when it comes to climate and its change. If you get your information from any of those librul degree mills then your listening to da prupaganduh!",
"Neoliberal democrats would never get in bed with big corporate interests!",
"I didn't say it releases plastic into the atmosphere, I said it releases carbon into the atmosphere. \n\nManufacturing plastic DOES release carbon into the atmosphere. By reducing our reliance on single-use fossil fuel derived plastic, we can reduce our carbon footprint as well as reduce garbage.\n\nSingle-use plastic either ends up in landfills, the oceans, or burnt. When it gets burned, it releases additional carbon into the atmosphere.",
"You obviously have no clue what the fuck you are talking about. Where is the power in the UN? In the member states. Especially p5. Cynical slackers like you who sit on their couch doing fuck all all day for the fear of being criticized and don’t believe in the power of public opinion (while criticizing efforts in the right direction - it’s so easy right?) are just as much a reason we are so fucked as all the greedy leeches on the top floors. Read up, get education, do something. If you cannot even see the benefit of this message reaching millions of people you are a part of the problem.",
"Yes. Unfortunately the pigs at the top tell us everything is fine and to fix anything not in their favor is bad or socialism.",
">Hold your representatives accountable.\n\nFor what? Planning, implementing, and maintaining the bureaucracy needed for this crap isn't free. \n\n>They buy more products, but if they buy an alternative that requires less carbon to produce they get a better deal because it has a lower carbon tax. Now greener products are encouraged.\n\nCall me crazy, but I think we can encourage 'greener' products without the wacky tax scam. \n\n>Either way, the damage carbon does to the environment is added to the price of the goods that require it, which lowers demand, which reduces carbon in the atmosphere, which solves the climate crisis.\n\nThis is the goddamn underpants gnomes theory of climate economics. Like its genuinely amazing that people are being convinced to give more money to the government and corporations with this nebulous bullshit.",
"I see what u did there",
"Jesus, the thought that you're more concerned about gas prices than the future of humanity is fucking harrowing.",
"ALAN!\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2_Zt-4IxBc",
"How fucking fragile lol. Just because the guy wants to drink soda doesn't mean you need to preach and play holier-than-thou. I'm sure you have plenty of shitty habits— like criticizing people's drink choices on reddit.",
"What about my comment was insulting? I was just acknowledging that you were close to getting the point that other \"Pete Buttigeigs\" like me (apparently) see from a scientific perspective, I hardly think that I was being insulting in the slightest. You however have been hostile from the start but I don't complain about that because it's irrelevant, leading me to believe that you're not interested in helping anything. Play victim with someone else kemosabe, I'm out.",
"I'm not really sure you get that finding a sustainable lifestyle isn't really optional. It's that or face collapse of our lifestyle with no plan.",
"Democrats are increasing the corporate taxes and spending 550 billion to fight climate change. Republicans decreased the corporate tax and don't believe in climate action. \n\nSo let's stop the name calling. The choice is clear.",
"Single use is the problem, not the material. You can't claim one material is any better than another as it depends on the application, as I said above.\n\nPlastic is about 3 x the carbon emissions of Steel per kg, but steel is about 8 X the density of plastic. It depends on the application and what product they're making, and how long it will last.",
"Literally no one said they were a \"friend of the CCP\" here.\n\nIt's possible to believe that both the CCP *and* America suck. Even as an American. Source: that's me.\n\nCalling people \"tankie\" and telling them to shush just makes anyone reading your comments immediately dismiss any point you might have made.",
"Talked down to? Howso? I mean, if I voted for climate change deniers maybe I could see thinking she was talking down to me, but then I would deserve it.",
"A thin layer, on top of decades of accumulated US exceptionalism and capitalist propaganda.",
"FUCKING LOL.\n\nAll I hear is \"Fear everything we dont know. Submit authority to us. We'll keep you safe.\"\n\nTHATS JACK BLACK?! THE FUCKING IRONY \"The government totally sucks mothafucka\" fuck him.",
"Fwiw you’re right and I don’t disagree. I’m not claiming any material is better than the other is in general. You’re projecting that on me.",
"Lol you realize how many conspiracies ended up being true? Just because it takes decades to prove them doesn't mean they're wrong.\n\nFuck man Edward Snowden is a conspiracy theorist and he's often right. Get your head out of your ass for one second and actually take time to look. Maybe you'll see the bigger picture.\n\nYuri Bezmenov was considered a conspiracy theorist. I implore you to watch this video and tell me he's wrong.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/bX3EZCVj2XA\n\nI also think you need to check out \"this is a danger to our democracy\" as well.",
"I thought i was going to hate this, but im pleasantly surprised by how that turned out.",
"Some people just enjoy being preached at by a large faceless entity, so long as it's a woke message that confirms their biases.",
"If you are a climate single issues voter, you drank the Kool aid",
"Wrong bill bro, the 550 bill is for infrastructure. You're confused, mistaken, and you drank too much Kool aid",
"You're projecting that I'm projecting that on you. Original guy was implying that plastics are worse, not my fault if you took it over.",
"Yikes and yikes. \n\nObviously if you support Republican policies then vote Republican. But for all of reddit's pet issues (climate change, marijuana legalization, net neutrality, heathcare) voting for more Democrats will advance those goals.",
"The infrastructure bill is 1.75 trillion, of which 575 billion is going towards climate action.",
"Seriously, let's tackle the possible extinction of our race, we want people to take it very seriously. So let's get a talking dinosaur that sounds like Jack Black. Completely hijack the seriousness that the message should be conveying.\n\nBut who am I kidding maybe people don't want to interact with anything serious anymore unless it's colorful or fun to make up for it.",
"yikes",
"Yikes, what a shitty comment",
"If you had any understanding of US history and actions, you would know \"imperial ambitions\" is not at all a reference to the middle east. Like I said, this conversation can't go anywhere.",
"Wildfires, irreparable damage caused by storms, drought and potential famine: not my responsibility \n\nMan has slightly more expensive vacation: activism the likes of which no one has seen\n\n\nThis would be hilarious if it didn't have implications for the rest of the world.",
"Yikes",
"> A nation with a lot of soft power is the opposite of a pariah\n\nI see no contradiction for being both, as I argued. And, even if I would grant you that, if you gave some argument, I would still point out that you are creating the circumstances of your choosing by arbitrarily ignoring hard power.",
"evil is largely a word someone throws around when they don't understand shit. Grow up.",
"Because you brought up Israel as if they have any impact on whether or not the UN condemns the US for the blockade.",
"What do you expect them to do?",
"Because the UN has no power to do anything itself. If member states don't abide by its resolutions, they have no recourse. In the end \"might makes right\"; economic might or military might is how rules are enforced in this world, and the UN has neither\n\nI'm all for moving closer to a true world government, but the Nation-States of today will not give up any sovereignty on their own; the idea of surrender sovereignty is almost antithetical to the concept of the Nation-State as its become to be known. That concept has to be discarded by the peoples of the world if real change is to be achieved",
"I know you're talking about me but you're right. Yikes. This shit is fucking scary lol.\n\nAny government calling people stupid for not following their orders should raise an insane amount of suspicion but history will repeat itself because everyone thinks that their government wouldn't try to control them.\n\nHell most people have a hard time believing their governments did things like this in the past often.\n\nEdit: not only that calling people stupid is a great way to get them to not listen. What a fucking great PSA. Definitely wasnt created to stir the pot.",
"According to who? A majority of the world's nations voting against us repeatedly at the UN suggests otherwise. Pariah = outcast. We have been forcing our agenda on the world, usually against the wishes of most other countries, for decades. What better describes the US than \"pariah\"?\n\nAnd again, what the fuck does the USSR have to do with *anything*? I don't understand why conservatives always attempt to make that addle-brained comparison.",
"> we can encourage 'greener' products without the wacky tax scam.\n\nIf you have a better solution please share it. You keep calling it a scam without demonstrating what exactly makes it a scam.\n\n> This is the goddamn underpants gnomes theory of climate economics.\n\nIt's just supply and demand. If you're an average American, you probably put something like 30,000 lbs of CO2 into the atmosphere per year. Currently, emitting that much carbon costs you nothing. If the price of that carbon went up to $1,000 a year how would your spending change? If it went up to $20,000 a year how would your spending change? There's nothing nebulous about it, there's a direct relationship.",
"and it's a good voice!",
"This is by far the most pathetic attempt at saving face I've seen on Reddit. Too weak to even contest anything said. Thanks for the laugh.",
"Cool, keep fighting the good fight man! Don't let the libs trick you into thinking you're crazy now, ya hear? Lmao",
"A sure sign the UN is a pointless and stupid organization and we should just ignore or abolish it.\n\nWe need to build out a lot of nuclear as well as some renewals like solar and wind.",
"If there's any changes you may want to have in your adulthood, then not caring is one of the worst things you can do.\n\nEveryone in power is older than you. And it's not really in our particular interest to sacrifice ourselves for lives we won't able to get to live.\n\nIf the lives we're trying to protect themselves say \"we don't care\" why should we?",
"I'll quote myself here:\n\n>How fucking fragile lol.",
"jack black?",
"Because I t does nothing to *solve the problem *.\n\nPoliticians love it because its giving them more money, power to regulate, more government jobs and bureaucracy, and easy votes without the pesky work of navigating difficult tasks like making good policy.\n\nCorporations love it because it further entrenches them into a captured market and squeezes out competition from any smaller companies, allows them to pass off costs and increase prices, while expanding their customer base.\n\nWhat it doesnt do is anything actionable towards fixing any problems.\n\nIts no fail for either of them. Doesnt work? Well we just didnt tax or regulate high enough. Guess we need to increase our power. Still doesnt work? Guess we need more power.\n\n\nHow about offering substantial rewards towards greener innovation? Making smart, focused, incremental improvements? Actually independently regulate instead of allowing corporations to capture agencies? Punish lawfare practices? Anything other than give the people who created and enabled this mess MORE POWER",
"Individuals who produce waste, of any amount, aren't the problem.",
"Can you answer my question, please? If the price of your personal carbon consumption went up substantially from its current price of $0, would you consume more or less carbon?",
"Imagine if a Swedish girl and a Dinosaur were actually the people to lessen the impact of the climate catastrophy.",
"Probably the exact same amount, and anything less would be so little as to be functionally pointless for the effort it took the rest of the society to make things cost more.",
"The sad thing is, the argument is really that basic at this point.",
"Reptiloid, actually. Don't ask how I know, though",
"Kind of sounds like it…but judge dread buildings were 200-300 stories…with only a hundred stories, the real world example would be taller areas of Manhattan…\n\nPreach Trees in the dread remake was 200 stories…\n\nHall of justice in original movie was ~300 stories",
"The point was its not just corporations opposing climate policy. Most people don't want to make that sacrifice.",
"u/ScarySkeleton24",
"Imagine being so fucking dense your literal world view centers around a single country. FFS Americans are so simple minded",
"I wonder how many other sciencey things they are wrong about? Velociraptors we’re about the size of a medium dog. But oh well it makes a point!",
"Must Elect Trump Again\n\nMake Everything Trump Again",
"Gonna have to disagree with this one, I think we should absolutely choose extinction. The human race is a blight on this planet and the only ethical thing for us to do is to fuck right off",
"Hmm well, maybe you aren't an average American then. For the vast majority of people, raising the price of something will make them consume less of it - see [gas prices, for example](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-28/the-high-price-of-cheap-gasoline). Therefore, one way to reduce carbon consumption (in aggregate, maybe you're an exception) is to raise the price of it.",
"lmao jack black",
"We won't though lol",
">or it is a choice between being able to afford fuel and utilities\n\nI think you might want to look abroad to China and India to see how a slow transition away from coal is going for \"affordable fuel\" in 2021. The future we were warned of is already here. \n\nThe reality is this is the old economy you're talking about. Things are changing but everyone's stuck in the malaise brought on by decades of inaction.\n\nTrillions pouring in to renewables right now, the money isn't in fossil fuels any more. Doesn't matter what conservatives think, the market is already moving.",
"And I repeat, the thought that people are more concerned about gas prices than the future of humanity is fucking harrowing.",
">that gives the impression the one making it doesn't understand human beings, logistics, time scales, or really anything required to productively discuss what needs to be done.\n\nOr I understand that this is an enormously complex issue and dilly-dallying around deals and intricacies before agreeing on a sensible goal is only going to generate useless prevarication.\n\nSimilar to how carbon taxes allow nations to meet reductions unique to their context, I don't see what's controversial about saying \"we should all envision the future and move towards it\" as a way of seeing the forest from the trees when it comes to relatively petty squabbles of individual self-interests or jurisdictions. \n\nIn the era of the internet and individuality, were trying to wrangle the entire earth in a single direction.\n\nWhat's got your knickers in such a twist about consensus of direction while allowing the details to be left up to each individuals context?\n\nWe've got to get to carbon neutrality in a few decades. \n\nWhat is so controversial about trying to envision that and move towards it? Should we instead fly blind in to the inevitability? Or keep awaiting for institutions to agree upon the most economically fortuitous route for themselves before we can act?\n\n------\n\nTo be honest the fact you seem unable or unwilling to come up with \"how it doesn't work\" (because it *is* intentionally large and encapsulating) shows it works.\n\nAll the issues that you say we have to address fall under this simplistic goal which is *accessible to all*. Global issues require global goals.\n\nLet's *all* move to carbon neutrality. From policy to economy to consumer. \n\nWhatever it looks like in your context.",
"Lmao, what the fuck?! I have like 2% body fat... but more importantly, how does someone \"sound fat\"?! You really gotta work on your online insults, man. \n\nIf you're gonna be so touchy, at least be able to back it up with something that doesn't sound like an insecure twelve year old.",
"Whatever makes you feel better dude. Just like most of your replies your comparisons here are quite shit. These people who are environmentalists - volunteer often, work in the sector - do not think that the change to plastic straws is worth it and they see it as essentially lip service.\n\nBut please, do tell me more. I am very interested to hear more about your opinion on a fact.",
"This is true. Thanks for letting me be The Rock.",
"I can confidently say ive bought roughly the same amount of gasoline per week this week as i did when gas prices were half what they are now a few months ago. I suspect a vast majority of american drivers can say the same.",
"Mario Bros. fans",
"Bowser makes a convincing argument.",
"Nope, but it seems to be the alternate universe one of my close friends seems to live in these days…",
"I didn’t say proxy wars. I said great international wars.",
"Yes",
"I wonder how much money they spent on this video. Should have put it to better use like helping people in poverty",
"CaLL yOuR ConGrEssmAn. Redditors have a hard on for saying this. But it doesn’t do shit.",
"Being a pariah doesn't allow for cultural influence.\n\nThe reason why I left out hard power is because we're already talking about international law, having lots of that means you don't have to follow it due to military strength.\n\nThe US doesn't use its military strength to avoid backlash from violating international norms, it uses its soft power to do so.",
"If a country is bigger than the other, then of course it will pollute more\n\nAnd idk where india comes into this the USA pollutes more anyway",
"If you read the article I linked, you'd see it's a long term relationship. It sounds like you're arguing that supply and demand aren't real.",
"Whaddaya mean allegedly they still have feathers",
"Well on that I completely agree. The replacing plastic straws with paper straws thing isn't actually doing shit. I worked at a restaurant that uses all compostable plastic, and we've been doing it for years and I'm a big supporter of that. It costs 10x as much but that ends up being a 40cent increase per order and it works out fine. If companies just focus on the straw thing thats 110% lip service and it doesn't actually fix anything. But I guess my point is that young environmentalists that are doing that misguidedly (in my opinion) are still not ignorant enough to be the ones complaining about it. I complain about plastic straws because i've seen several better alternatives, but at the same time i'm happy cutting out just about anything from my life if that's what it takes to combat global warming. I don't know man, I think we probably agree about most of this stuff in the end, i'm sorry if I misunderstood you. The more I think about it the less I think my clarification matters at all if you were genuinely talking about people you know. Bit drunk sorry for the shit phrasing, have a good night/ day mate",
"Yet here we are. Ultimately we are at the whim of the lowest common denominator so any viable climate policy has to cater to them.",
"Are all the Democrats on the same page? Things seem to be getting held back by a couple of them. \n\nWhat name calling? A neolib is a neolib, if that's a dirty word to you, then stop voting for neolibs.",
"Idiot.",
"soft power is not culture influence. It can result in cultural influence, but it is not itself cultural influence. Vietnam and Japan have a lot of cultural influence, but not soft power, for example. I can see your confusion if you think the US \"soft power\" is just them influencing people with their culture. Soft power is imperial power, make no doubt about it.\n\nYou seem to be making the argument that everyone likes the US, so they can't possibly be a pariah. You offer up a handful of associations as evidence. No, people work with the US because they have to, and often have no real choice in the matter, because of the soft power. It's like, you work with your boss, not because you like him, but because he has power over you.",
"Needs feathers 🪶",
"Idk I thought I was being pretty nice there, either way have a nice night! Frankly I am an idiot, won't stop me from picking dumb arguments on reddit. I just try to listen to the other person to see if i'm the dickhead, and frankly you won me over just a bit. So you win, if that pisses you off then who hurt you? Lol",
"WELL SINCE YOU ASKED. MORE KIDS WILL DIE FROM CLIMATE CHANGE THEN CAN BE FED WITH SOME MONEY FROM ONE COMMERCIAL \n\n\nWould you like me to say it a third time so you can hear it again?",
"This feels like a high school social studies project that somehow had a huge budget.",
"Do you have a mental disability? Your very first comment you called me a... what was it? Spastic asshole? And now you are trying to take the moral high road when you realized how wrong you were? hahaha fuck me you are a clown.",
"First off grow up dude, but second It's crazy you can say that after hurling insults in every comment haha. What do you want me to say? I just went back and checked and my first comment I was pissed that you called someone else a \"spastic\" which is slang for retarded. I responded with the same insult you hurled at someone else?! I'm not trying to argue dude, but you litterally had a point.. I gave you the W and you can't let it go? Now seriously... you were moments ago right as rain, but now again you're just being a dick? You called someone else retarded first? Take responsibility dude, I wasn't taking the highroad I was taking responsibility for being a douche. I'm shocked right now, are you okay?",
"Well yes - you are the idiot arguing against a fact so my insults make perfect sense.\n\nI don't think you realize how little I care about your opinion. There is a reason I simply called you an idiot before and left it at that.",
"\"clever girl\"",
"Fair enough",
"Just yikes. I'll get right on that. Y'know rather than going after the companies and countries that don't give a fuck about global emissions. Since the ones spouting this shit are the ones being ~~bribed~~ lobbied... it'll always be our fault rather than the people/companies that actually matter. Yeah because its those pesky people working minimum wage, they had better stop buying Avocado's dammit. So crazy to me.",
"[Oh look, it's UN. UN-Nazi the world forever!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntAR0IT5pl4)",
">What conspiracy \"theories\" does Snowden push? As far as I'm aware, he gave evidence and proof of an actual conspiracy, he didn't peddle any theories. \n\nFucking lol. Maybe you should look more into people than what you just see on reddit.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/e0zAJfbP3gg\n\nHe is ***literally*** a conspiracy theorist by definition. He is basically ***the*** conspiracy theorist.",
"Correct. Your point being? Mine was that the absence of suffering should be valued more than the presence of pleasure. Since much like darkness, there can always be more suffering. It can always be worse.",
"No",
"A lot of them have been proven false",
"bruh you ever seen a BIRD",
"It should have been all growls and roars with subtitles.",
"We need a new power source. Something the likes of which the world has never seen. We need to generate more electricity than we've ever seen before. \n\n\nAnd fast.",
"Cultural influence is an important component of soft power, and yes, Japanese culture helps Japan be ranked 2nd in terms of soft power: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_power (see measurements).\n\nA pariah is an outcast. Calling the US an outcast is beyond ridiculous, you even admit that nations pretty much have to work with the US. Be it economic, cultural, or military strength, that does not describe a pariah.",
"And covered in feathers\n\nEdit: No evidence to suggest that Utahraptors had feathers, apart from that all other dinosaurs of its kind had them. It is generally accepted that they did have feathers though, and will be until we find specific evidence that they didn't. \n\nSo my original comment is silly",
"Nope, I'm talking about the correct bill, the other guy is mistaken. \n\nI'm sorry, but in this climate, the Republicans are completely deplorable. They backed Trump, backed the insurrection, and have no interest in governing.\n\nIf you care about climate change, and it seems that you do, then the only choice us Democrats. This is not an unhinged partisan take -- it is literally stated by each respective party.\n\nFinally, to claim that voters can't change anything is another right wing talking point. They want you to think governments are corrupt and that voters have no agency. But the fact is, voters can make major impacts. And yes, even over the interests of lobbyists.",
"Democrats are a big tent party. Not everyone agrees with everything. But electing more Democrats will result in more aggressive climate change legislation. \n\nYou are basically name calling because your comment was devoid of substance, especially with your claim that they are in bed with corporate interests. The exact opposite is true, given that the bill is funded largely by a corporate tax.",
"lmao you think there's no corruption in Laissez-Faire? Laissez-Faire is the epitome of corruption.\n\n[Socialists do something about their corrupt.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/01/chinese-ex-official-on-trial-for-corruption-as-xi-jinpings-purge-continues)",
"> ingenuity will solve the climate issue\n\nNo amount of \"ingenuity\" can undo the damage that's already been done, and no \"ingenuity\" is even being put towards mitigating it.\n\nWe know the cause: release of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. We know the fix: stop releasing greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.\n\nSo stop burning coal, natural gas, whatever ***immediately***. There is no \"ingenuity\" needed there. We already have alternative power sources, we just have to use them.\n\nAsk yourself why we aren't using them. Why we aren't treating this as the incoming disaster that it is? We needed to take drastic action 20 years ago, now we *really need* to take drastic action just to mitigate the damage that *will* happen.\n\nCapitalists have clearly stated for 40 years they are unwilling to take said drastic action because it hurts their bottom line. Believe them.\n\n> The reality is that scientific advancement comes from capitalist nations\n\nYeah, what's the space race? Never heard of it.",
"None of that will matter if we kill the planet",
"This is miserable and not fucking needed. Can we all grow the fuck up and have an honest discussion about this? Please? This kind of garbage is so distasteful- this is a real honest-to-god extinction event not a fun-timey pandering pr moment. Ugh.",
"lol. fucking reddit.",
"He sounds Texan. \n\nHe has also overestimated humans' ability to think about the survival of others.",
"The biggest ozone hole closed",
"You clearly don't know what a neolib is, and your lack of maturity is showing if you thing calling them out for being in bed with big business is simply name calling. \n\nThat sort of retort is devoid of meaningful commentary, as you simply deny that they exist within the big tent. Which means you're delusional. \n\nElecting the right Democrats may help fix things, electing more neolibs will exacerbate things. You don't seem to get that, though.",
"It is an outcast; outsider; despised; it is the only nation that continually breaks international law as a norm. It is continually against the world at the UN. It is the only nation with the track record of constant international destruction, coercion, suppression. That is a pariah; particularly the UN voting record. Japan does not have any of what I am calling soft power. It's fine that they might be using the word differently; that's not really important. What is important is that the US has power to politically coerce other nation states. That's what I call soft power. Their voting record at the UN, and history with international law makes them a pariah, by definition. No other \"facts\" can change that reality; the fact that they might have some cultural influence does not change those facts.",
"I think that's being a bad person, so I think I'm going to do my best to care and see where it gets me.",
"All I'm saying is that the thought process is fucking terrifying. That's it.",
"Climate catastrophism is a hoax",
"Ooh, sassy, this thread is going places",
"I work with a lot of overseas folks. If you think that China and India aren't seeing massive affordability & availability problems with basic necessities for the middle and lower classes & outside their larger cities I would strongly encourage you to look more closely.\n\nThose aren't the #1 & #2 slots in US Visa applications just because they all want easier access to first release Netflix or something.",
"Your post is cool because it makes the lizard people joke and then explains itself",
"Experts who rank countries by soft power consistently ranked Japan in the top 10 specifically because of their cultural influence. Maybe you have your own definition but we should be clear that UN voting records doesn't make a country a pariah.\n\nIt's about willingness to work with that country on issues. North Korea is a pariah because nobody wants to make a deal with them. The US does not have this problem. Saying the US is the only nation that continually breaks international law I hope is exaggeration on your part because the Pyongyang, Damascus, Tehran, Caracas, and Jerusalem would like a word with you.\n\nFun fact, nobody cares that the US didn't sign onto a couple articles of the Geneva conventions or some nuclear treaty. Yeah, it would be nice if Washington did, but it doesn't change the geopolitical dynamic partly because the US has so much soft power.",
"They very much were reptiles. \n\nModern birds are more closely related to dinosaurs than other living taxa however doesn’t make dinosaurs, and birds by extension, not reptiles.\n\nGroups are defined by taxonomic evolutionary relationships not characteristics, the fact that dinosaurs were warm blooded, and most modern reptiles are not doesn’t make dinosaurs not a reptile.",
"Yeah it was handy that an MS DOS virus affected an alien mothership which had a handy floppy disk drive!",
"Neoliberal has no real definition in modern politics. It just means liberal I don't like. \n\nOn the contrary, I gave a specific example of how Democrats are not in bed with corporations. You have not. So either stop with the name calling, or add meaningful commentary to the discussion.",
"Didn't realize they were talking about Jurassic park 3. I thought they were talking about [tyrannosaurus Allen](https://youtu.be/KVdvaZAOkBE).",
"This is so damn depressing. Going by this, the single biggest factor is a carbon price and it has been so highly demonised in my country after last only 2 fucking years that it will never get another run.",
"Can we drill said depths for profit above all?\n\n'cause I'm not interested otherwise.",
"\"Stop name calling\"- still hasn't added anything beyond that complaint. \n\n>I gave a specific example of how Democrats are not in bed with corporations\n\nOne example shows that every single Democrat is not a neolib who's in bed with big corporations? You haven't provided that at all. That's an absurd thing to claim. \n\nHere's the specifics, look at them yourself\n\nhttps://www.opensecrets.org/industries./recips.php?ind=E01++",
"Finally, we are getting an actual example. That's what I mean by stop name calling.\n\nYou claimed that \"neolibs\" (still no real definition) were in bed with corporations, and I gave an obvious and clear counter example. Support your claims with arguments. \n\nTo address your actual example, I severely dislike the way open secrets presents information. Almost all of those \"contributions\" from the \"oil and gas industry\" are just from people. It's not from lobbyists or corporations. Because with very limited exceptions, corporations cannot donate to politicians. \n\nTo take Manchin as an example, that makes sense since that's the largest industry in the state. \n\nSo present a better argument to support your claim.",
"I already did support my claims with evidence. I don't care if you don't think it's good enough, you deny that neolibs even exist, because you're delusional. \n\nHow about you provide better evidence? Your singular 'example' isn't good enough to deny a paper trail.",
"Your evidence is a bad example, as I stated in my previous post. Those aren't contributions from corporations, or evidence that these industries have captured Democrats.\n\nAnd yes, I don't think \"neoliberal\" means anything in modern politics beyond liberal I don't like. \n\nSo support your claim with actual evidence.",
"You haven't backed up your claims with anything. Yet you tell me to back up my claims when I already have. You're delusional. \n\nIf you're just gonna stonewall, we're done here. I've no more time to waste on delusional redditors with their inane political commentary.",
"Humans made it through an ice age without much technology. I think we'll survive the planet getting warmer.",
"Let's back up a bit. \n\nYou claimed that \"neolibs\" are in bed with big corporate interests. And because this was a response to my original comment that more Dems = more climate change action, implied that electing more Dems is pointless because they are captured by corporations.\n\nSo, obviously, I don't think Democrats on a whole are captured by corporate interests. Still, it's hard to prove a negative. But I believe there's compelling evidence against this claim, the most recent example being the Democratic push for increased corporate taxes, and how their most recent bill will largely be funded by these increased taxes. You have not responded to this evidence. \n\nThe only evidence you cited in support of your claim is an open secrets link to the oil and gas industry. But, as I've repeatedly stated, **these are not actual contributions from this industry.** They are just contributions from employees who work in this field. \n\nI don't think I'm stonewalling here. I've supported my claim with argument, which you have not responded to. I have refuted your evidence, which you have not responded to. \n\nIf your goto to actual rebuttals is just name calling, then I suggest some serious self reflection as to why you believe what you believe.",
"nope, not reading that\n\nfuck off to r/politics, you basically live there.",
"Ok, I would suggest some serious self-reflection. You don't seem to want to be challenged regarding your fundamental views.",
"I'd suggest you realize that once you start stonewalling people, they're not gonna take you seriously. You're delusional and I owe you nothing.",
"No, but we can troll them to empty the oceans of life.",
"unfortunately",
"Stonewalling ... I don't think it means what you think it means. I've literally responded to every point you've made. Kinda feels like projection from my side, since you haven't responded to any of my points. \n\nYou've just reduced to name calling ... kinda full circle from my original response.",
"As expected, you literally cannot accept or even consider anything that doesn't conform to your predetermined world view. It's just met with denial and stonewalling. Kinda full circle with being delusional. Good thing I called it early on.\n\nYou seem to have more time to waste than I do, so I'm disabling inbox comments. Goodbye backyardmidget",
"You ever read scientifically accurate articles?",
"It's not enough though",
"I like sources.\n\nI like predictions that come true.\n\nThere is no such thing as “misinformation”. There are things that are true and things that are false. If a hypothesis is repeatedly not supported by evidence, it is most likely false. Systematically collecting evidence, building hypotheses and challenging them is the only way to try and find truth in science. Does that happen with climate science? Obviously no.\n\nBecause anything questioning the same recycled narrative and predictions that have repeatedly not come true is called “denialism” and “misinformation” and “conspiracy”.\n\nIf climate science is exactly as we are told by the mainstream media, it will stand up to scrutiny and challenge. Ignoring challenges and questions is not a rigorous application of the scientific method. It’s propaganda.",
"Yup, that guy! It also wasn't very busy at the time, so really a big part of his job should be some form of customer service / being friendly. Maybe he's a dick on purpose for the sole reason of discouraging people to come back and is hoping the casino fails. An unappreciated hero being a dick to help society and not receiving a single 'thank you'.",
"Obviously I would have if we were closer to the ocean but it would've been like a 2 hour drive and not everyone wanted to. I left the empty glass on the bar with the straw still in it. Hopefully the casino had people on staff to notice and make sure all the little straws make it home to their ocean families. /s",
">international pariah\n\nYou gave yourself away as a raving loon.",
"Read my comment history, I'm not conservative at all and most of my time on that subreddit is bashing conservatives. \n\nThe USSR has something to deal with it that would be immediately clear if you studied IR at all. It was the other half of the bipolar power balance from WW2 end to 1990. They were the alternative to align with, but because their cultural values and economic systems were different from much of the world we had many counties choosing us, hence, not a pariah. \n\nMany countries are now choosing China as we shift towards a bipolar system again as US relative power declines. Mostly this is because china is communist in name only, and hands out development loans without restrictions for human rights violations that the US includes. We are still notably the center of Western economic and military power, and despite our bullying, flip-flopping, and habit of treating our population poorly, we are a better choice for modern democracies because at least on paper our country believed in rights, elections, and industry that isn't entirely owned by the state.\n\nEdit: disagreement doesn't make you an outcast if many of those countries are still reaching for trade and military agreements from the US. Disagreement is healthy and for the general assembly the majority opinion will outweigh that of the US, as intended. For the security council it is more complicated but I believe the veto power serves a purpose to stop us short of war if the UN is about to cross a hard line of one of the other veto powers.",
"That's fine. That's just life and reality. I've lived long enough and didn't have a rosy enough life to believe otherwise.\n\nBut if good people stop doing good things because it's hard or unfair, there's no more good left in the world. \n\nWe do good because we choose to do good. Not for rewards or because it makes most practical sense. We all got to have a code to live by.",
"interesting",
"> It was the other half of the bipolar power balance from WW2 end to 1990.\n\nYes. Thank you for demonstrating why it has literally nothing to do with modern Socialism, lol.",
"Was that Jack Black?",
"is that Jack Black?",
"The first sentences of your comment indicates that you didn't actually read mine. Perhaps it would help if you did? Clearly, your definition of softpower has no connection to the link you gave either, because you claimed that the US has more soft power than any other country, and I would agree. So let's toss aside that irrelevant list that refers to something called \"soft power\" that neither of us agrees with that has the US at 5th.\n\n> Maybe you have your own definition but we should be clear that UN voting records doesn't make a country a pariah.\n\nit does, yes. They are an outcast in voting on Cuba and Palestine, for example. Continually voting against the rest of the world. That by definition makes them an outcast; pariah. They are allowed to get away with it precisely BECAUSE of their soft power; their soft power enables them to act as a pariah.\n\n> Saying the US is the only nation that continually breaks international law\n\nNo, it's a fact. No other country comes close. The US last broke international law when it bombed Syria for attacks on a US base in Iraq, that I'm aware of. I'm sure it has broken international law since. I think it might have done a show of force in the south china sea since, so another instance of breaking international law. And, this is kind of irrelevant anyway; the only way you could argue the US isn't a pariah here is if you argued that breaking international law on the level that the US does is the norm.\n\nAgain, having \"cultural influence\" does not change these facts; it is a pariah. I don't know why you think you can keep saying \"soft power\" as if it makes US continued actions against the world irrelevant. It's like some kind of weird white washing you're hoping if you repeat enough will eventually work. The world is a complex place; the US can have cultural influence in some areas, and still be a pariah in others. And yes, people DO care; clearly you don't, but that does not change the facts.\n\nPerhaps it would be helpful if you gave a definition of what soft power is? I have given mine, you seem to be swimming around in a grey zone where you argue based on having no solid position on what soft power means? All that is clear with your use of the word, is that it seems to have some property whereby it is impossible to be a pariah in any sense if you have some. Pretty weak position for you to argue from.",
"It matters a lot because it is related as well. Who do you think is pushing uncontrolled carbon emissions and industrialization but the UN has no balls to confront?",
"Yes mr dinosaur id love to not subsidize fossil fuels. I’ll cancel that check right now",
"> Like I said, this conversation can’t go anywhere. \n\nYou’re right about one thing, but not for the reason you think.",
"Pretty confident it is; our assumptions and knowledge are completely contradictory. In order to proceed, we would need to unpack potentially endless amounts of presuppositions and assumptions.",
"That is not what a deinonychus looked like goddamnit",
"Yea guys extinction? Haha funni lmao we dont have to deal with it lets increase more usage of fossil fuels our kids havr to deal eith them fuck them amirite 😎😎",
"I swear I’m still scared of that dog",
"Right because being the ideology of the second largest bloc for 40 years is meaningless?",
"One: You are misinformed, misunderstanding, or knowingly arguing in bad faith.\n\nTwo: The world is different. Our country is different. Our history is different. The conditions upon which we would form a more Socialist model of governance are different.\n\nThree: No modern American Socialist is out there calling for a system even remotely similar to the USSR's, so the comparison is meaningless in the first place. The only way it applies is if you choose to learn literally nothing about American Socialist platforms and only consider your own imagined version that doesn't reflect reality. Even then, it would barely apply for the two aforementioned reasons.\n\nThe bottom line is it's fuckin dumb, and I think you and people like you know it.",
">One: You are misinformed, misunderstanding, or knowingly arguing in bad faith.\n\nPossibly misinformed, not intentionally.\n\n>Two: The world is different. Our country is different. Our history is different. The conditions upon which we would form a more Socialist model of governance are different.\n\nAgreed, we have a better basis if socialism were to develop here.\n\n\n>Three: No modern American Socialist is out there calling for a system even remotely similar to the USSR's, so the comparison is meaningless in the first place.\n\nI am aware that we are not, and didn't mean to imply that we were.\n\nIt's only meaningless if I was arguing that the USSR was a reason for us not to be socialists. I was arguing that we were not pariah because, in the past, we represented shelter for many from a very oppressive and poorly executed form of socialism, and lots of that influence lingers.\n\n\n>The only way it applies is if you choose to learn literally nothing about American Socialist platforms and only consider your own imagined version that doesn't reflect reality. Even then, it would barely apply for the two aforementioned reasons.\n\nAgain, the parent comment wasn't arguing for or against socialism in the US, it was an example of one factor that led much of the world to align with us.\n\nAnd I would bet my imagined version is much like yours (:\n\n\n>The bottom line is it's fuckin dumb, and I think you and people like you know it.\n\nIm not sure what you're assuming about me but I'm pretty sure it's incorrect(or misrepresented in bad faith?). It's hard with Reddit threads over multiple days to remember what the subject of the original thread is but, again, I'm not arguing against the potential of socialism as an economic system in general or in the united states. I support more social safety net policies and admire Nordic social democracies. \n\nI'll try and restate my argument against our being an internationally scorned outcast and how that's related.\n\nUSSR bad and oppressive, also socialist. During cold war era many countries align with US because we had an irrational fear of the spread of communism and were militarily capable of preventing it. In the process we overthrew and invaded a bunch of democratically elected left wing governments. We also provided an economic and military strong point for those western European countries also interested in stopping potential communist growth. This was part of what led to our current position where we are a major trading partner, defense gaurentor or aid distributor of much of the liberal world and an uncomfortable amount of oppressive countries as well. This is a bunch of power and responsibility and it means that in the reality of power politics much of the world either aligns with us or votes with us to gain favor in other issues.\n\nVote with us and in their interests != Outcast pariah that everyone votes against. \n\nLook up UN voting records on major issues of your choice, you may be surprised.\n\nParticularly right now consider the position South Korea, Japan, Australia, or Taiwan would be in without the US. We took a major risk in our relationship with our oldest ally (France) in order to protect Australia in a part of the world that doesn't threaten us directly at all.\n\n\nNow one area in which we are outcast is in our refusal to sign or ratify many international treaties the rest of the world agrees to be pretty good, like the ICC and iirc a ban on certain uses of anti-personnel mines.\n\nEdit: you also ignored that my original comment said \"preferable to what the USSR was or what China has signalled they will be\" and you latch onto the massively repeated \" USSR wasn't truly socialist\" when the more salient point in the 21st century is China (again, communist only in name) expanding the influence of it's state capitalism surveillance state and how much of SEA is again aligning with the US because they see us as a preferable alternative. \n\nI've seen lots of what appear to be foreign trolls posing as leftists trying to attack other ones and stir internal conflict. I'm not accusing you of that b/c this is too involved of a conversation, but you have some similar talking points which would be worth considering.",
"Contrary to popular reddit discourse, US parties are not really bought out. \n\nAbout 48 Democratic senators support meaningful climate action. Almost all Democratic house members. Zero Republicans do. \n\nIt's not really a close comparison.",
"Reddit's discourse on this issue is incorrect. \n\nFor example, \n\nThe site open secrets, which presents \"contributions\" from each industry, is extremely misleading. 99% of those contributions are from employees, that is, people who work in those industries. They are not from the industries themselves. \n\nIn that vein, it is illegal for corporations to donate directly to candidates. \n\nIt is also generally illegal for a sitting politician to accept speaking fees. The fees you hear about are always from former politicians.\n\nI won't deny that a lot of politicians are wealthy. But the wealth doesn't originate from their offices -- they are either already rich or have wealthy spouses. Politicians like Biden, who did not have either, were among the most famous \"poor\" (by politician standards) senators.\n\nBy the way, someone making 133k a year for 30 years should have millions when they retire if they saved correctly. \n\nInsider trading by politicians is also illegal.\n\nThe system can be improved, by limiting super pacs and dark money groups. But these entities aren't transferring money to politicians. \n\nReddit loves to imply that politicians are bribed in some way, and thus they don't adopt the policies they support. The truth is much simpler: the US is much more conservative than reddit, and therefore so are its politicians. \n\nWhich brings me back to my original point. If you want more climate action, then elect more Democrats.",
"I’m happy to do it - this country’s been locked in a Cold War against Communist Interests for the better part of 60 years now. Obviously there are going to be missteps in the pursuit of reducing that spread of influence in the same way there were missteps in reducing the spread of Nazi influence. Proxy wars and war of ideology are always going to have casualties and a nation of over 300 million is absolutely going to fall victim to the occasional bad actor, but to not be able to understand why the West (and majority of the world) tolerates these missteps and the roles that have been bent in the pursuit of a more free planet just, to me, seems to show a lack of a broader understanding as to what’s going on here.",
"Uranium One is a conspiracy theory. If that's your go to example then I suggest you reexamine your beliefs. It's essentially right wing propaganda. \n\nhttps://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/\n\nI've yet to see evidence that the USA government is, as a whole, corrupt. I believe this talking point today is essentially a conservative talking point to suppress liberal voters.\n\nBecause, as I've said, literally every liberal policy has a better chance of being enacted with more Democrats. Smugly staying on the sidelines just maintains the status quo, which is what conservatives want.",
"The idea of communist containment is itself flawed. If you look into the internal files, the cold war was largely motivated by internal economic concerns after the Marshall plan ended; it is no coincidence that tensions rise almost immediately after the end of the marshal plan; the US needed a replacement economic stimulus:\n\n> What is surprising is the primacy that has been accorded economic considerations in\nshaping strategies of containment, to the exclusion of other considerations. One\nwould not expect to find, in initiatives directed so self-consciously at the world at\nlarge, such decisive but parochial concerns. . . . To a remarkable degree,\ncontainment has been the product, not so much of what the Russians have done, or \nof what has happened elsewhere in the world, but of internal forces operating within\nthe United States.\n\nJohn Lewis Gaddis,\nStrategies of Containment: A Critical Appraisal of Postwar American National Security\nPolicy, New York: Oxford University Press, 1982. The exact words (pp. 356-357;\nemphasis in original)\n\nThis is the leading expert on US containment history. Furthermore, the same author points out that the idea of \"containment\" need only be justified because US leaders \"perceived\" a threat, not that the threat was real. And to be clear, this is in his defence of the containment idea; he believes that containment was \"defensive\"; and that is the best defence he can muster for that belief. By that same logic, Nazi Germany also \"perceived\" themselves to be under threat by surrounding countries, and so, could justify their actions as \"containment\" adn \"defensive\" by the same rational, and they would probably have a stronger argument than the US, given that they were literally surrounded by enemies. In fact, any and all imperial conquest could be justified as \"containment\" of some other threat, as all such entities tend to see \"perceive\" themselves as under threat by outside forces.\n\n\nFurthermore, under this façade, the US deposed many democracies in an imperialistic effort of control. The US has ensured that democracy and independence has been reduced around the world, not increased. One of the earliest examples of this is with Woodrow Wilson in 1918, he invaded Haiti after a successful slave rebellion pushed out the masters, and proceeded to promptly reinslave the population under US control, and it has been that way ever since. Around this same time, the US invaded Cuba and the Philippines under similar circumstances, these countries had just freed themselves from their masters, in the form of the Spanish empire. The US wanted to play the new imperial master. By the 1950s, the vast majority of land, infrastructure and business in Cuba was US owned, thanks to a US puppet dictator that had been installed after the US invaded. The US tried to do the same thing in vietnam after the French colonisers withdrew from the region; that one didn't go so well, but was still a success.\n \nMoving on from there, we have Guatemala in 1950, where the US labelled the recently democratically elected president \"communist\" not because he had any communist ties, which he did not, but because he was not playing ball with a US corporation: the united fruit company. The US brought in Edward Barneys, father of modern public relations, to to create the illusion of a communist threat in Guatemala, in order to manufacture consent from the population to invade a country that was doing nothing more than not playing ball with US corporate interests. The CIA eventually deposed the leader, with Edward Bernays feeding US news companies all the lines they should write about the successful US coup. The story goes on from there. Almost every country in south America has been invaded by the US to remove a democratically elected leader, to install a US puppet dictator that would play ball with US corporate interests.\n\nIt is precisely because I am aware of the specific detailed history of US \"containment\" that I do not take your position.\n\nOr, if you prefer, you can just take it straight from the horse's mouth:\n\n> [W]e have about 50% of the world's wealth but only 6.3% of its population. This\ndisparity is particularly great as between ourselves and the peoples of Asia. In this\nsituation, we cannot fail to be the object of envy and resentment. Our real task in the\ncoming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain\nthis position of disparity without positive detriment to our national security. To do so,\nwe will have to dispense with all sentimentality and day-dreaming; and our attention\nwill have to be concentrated everywhere on our immediate national objectives. We\nneed not deceive ourselves that we can afford today the luxury of altruism and world benefaction. . . .\nWe should cease to talk about vague and -- for the Far East -- **unreal objectives\nsuch as human rights, the raising of the living standards, and democratization**. The\nday is not far off when we are going to have to deal in straight power concepts. The\nless we are then hampered by idealistic slogans, the better.\n\n\"Statement Of Policy On U.S. Policy Toward Latin America,\" September 25, 1956,\nForeign Relations of the United States, 1955-1957, Vol. VI (\"American Republics;\nMultilateral; Mexico; Caribbean\"), Washington: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1987,\npp. 119-127.\n\nBut this history of intervening to disrupt democracy is not limited to Latin America. The US also had similar ventures in Italy, where they directly intervened in the 1948 Italian election.\n> (on\nU.S. use of covert funding and military supplies, sponsorship of massive propaganda\nefforts, and employment of the threat of cutting off aid, in order to sway the 1948 Italian\nelection)\n\nJames E. Miller, \"Taking Off the Gloves: The United States and the\nItalian Elections of 1948,\" Diplomatic History, Vol. 7, No. 1, Winter 1983, pp. 35-55 \n\n> Enormous resources were poured into Italy to manipulate the postwar elections.\nA Marshall Plan subsidy of some $227 million was voted by Congress just prior to the\nItalian elections of April 18, 1948. . . . In the mid-1970s the Pike Committee of the\nU.S. House of Representatives estimated that $65 million had been invested in Italian\nelections in the period 1948-68. Ten million dollars was pumped into the election of\n1972. Former C.I.A. officer Victor Marchetti estimated C.I.A. outlays were $20-30\nmillion a year in the 1950s, dropping to a mere $10 million a year in the 1960s. These\nfunds were also used to subsidize newspapers, anticommunist labor unions, Catholic\ngroups, and favored political parties (mainly the Christian Democrats). . . .\nFollowing the victory of the Right in the elections of April 1948, a new, secret\nantisubversive police force was established under the Ministry of Interior, with U.S.\nadvisers. This was filled largely from the old fascist secret police of Mussolini. At the\nsame time, the fascist party Italian Social Movement (M.S.I.) began a massive\nexpansion program, with the assistance of U.S. intelligence officials. M.S.I. had\nsignificant backing from business interests in both Italy and the United States, and\nprobably received financial support from the U.S. government. The honorary\nchairman of M.S.I. was Prince Junio Valerio Borghese, the long-time fascist leader,\nwho had been protected by the United States at the end of the war. General Vito \nMiceli, another M.S.I. leader, received an $800,000 U.S. subsidy through U.S.\nAmbassador Graham Martin in 1972. M.S.I. official Luigi Turchi was a guest of honor\nat the Nixon White House in 1972.\n\n Edward S. Herman and\nFrank Brodhead, The Rise and Fall of the Bulgarian Connection, New York: Sheridan\nSquare, 1986, ch. 4 (on the coup plan in the 1960s by the C.I.A.-dominated organization\nS.I.F.A.R., see pp. 78-81). An excerpt (pp. 73-74).\n\n\n> President Francesco Cossiga [of Italy] has called for an investigation into a report\nthat the C.I.A. encouraged terrorism in Italy in the 1970s, his office said yesterday.\nThe report on state-owned R.A.I. television alleged that the C.I.A. paid Licio Gelli,\ngrandmaster of the secret Propaganda Due Masonic lodge, to foment terrorist\nactivities. The P-2 has been accused of seeking to install a right-wing dictatorship in\nItaly during the 1970s with the help of secret service officials. . . . The R.A.I. report \nwas based mainly on interviews with two men who claimed to have worked for the\nC.I.A.\n\nItalian Asks Probe Of Story On C.I.A.,\" Boston Globe, July 23, 1990, p. 10.\n\nAnd you see similar interventions by the US throughout post WW2 Europe.",
"Nope it's a conspiracy theory. Did you read the link? While some Russians made an attempt to curry favor through donations, there's zero evidence this ever influenced her decision making, and zero evidence that she had any major sway over the Uranium One decision in the first place. That's like the definition of a conspiracy theory. \n\nFrankly, you're extremely privileged if you think Democrats have done nothing. Just off the top of my head: medicare expansion, more universal healthcare, LGBT rights, DACA, and reduction in child poverty. \n\nAnd, of course, they want to do more, but need more Democrats. \n\nWith respect to the two parties, it is basically a mathematical certainty from a winner take all electoral college system. And both parties are big tent. Even under parliamentary systems, coalitions are needed because it takes a majority to pass legislation. \n\nIt sounds to me you are sitting on the sidelines, because you're not offering an alternative. Conservatives love that. \n\nFinally, I'd rather take data, evidence, and examples, rather than what looks like a privileged gut feeling.",
"Put a hold on their foreign aid. If they're one of the countries that doesn't receive foreign aid from us, then put penalties on any companies that does business with them until they show progress towards meeting those goals. \n\nI know it's not as simple as how I explained it, but if it worked like that that would be ideal....",
"Lmao, yes dude, I was totally blaming you personally, since I know you so well ! Get a grip already, that wasn't the point of my comment.\n\nIf tommorow nobody want to buy stuff that isn't eco-friendly, I guarantee you every single corporation in the world will adapt to make sure they sell 100% eco-friendly stuff. That's the point.",
">Funfact: If you were to live 100 years of your life being 100% carbon neutral, the fossil fuel industry would wipe your efforts in a few seconds. It honestly is pointless for the everday person to cut their emmissions when the fossil fuel industry isnt\n\nbruh even if the \"fossil fuel industry\" was to stop entirely in the west China India and the rest of the third world would not do a thing. the only answer is to adapt to a changing climate and research new technologies.",
"Featherless jurassic-style dinosaurs are just as valid and cute as feathery scientific dinosaurs",
"Yep, but hearing and listening are not the same.",
"This is a bot",
"So they where not the definition of a reptile, but they are still reptiles? How's that figure? Like you can't be something if you don't fallow the definition, you have to be something new, something different.",
"You don’t define the reptiles as animals that are cold blooded, you define them as a group of animals who all share a common ancestor. \n\nIf we define Lizards and crocodiles as both reptiles we also need to define dinosaurs and birds as reptiles because the most recent common ancestor of a lizard and a crocodile is also the most recent common ancestor of a dinosaur and a lizard, as crocodiles are more closely related to dinosaurs than they are to lizards.",
"By the logic then humans are reptiles cause they shared a common ancestor.",
"I’d vote for that dinosaur before 99% of politicians."
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"Really interesting and wholesome Youtube Channel I've stumbled across recently. I didn't realize how crazy towing could be.",
"I cant wait to see what they can do with this to get it going again. The look on Eds face will be priceless!!",
"I know right. These guys are awesome. Great group of family and friends."
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Recovering Ed's LJ20 Stuck 40 Years In The Sierra Nevada Mountains
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYGNqUWcOCs
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"SNL might be the worst show in the history of all of television.",
"I just did.",
"It just did.",
"K",
"U",
"My friend got to know him pretty well after she was injured in the service. \nNothing but great things to say about him. Pity he passed.",
"I’m on the last few episodes of the last season of my first time watching The Sopranos and I’m really dragging it out. On purpose. I know how the last episode goes (just by being alive and connected to the internet at the time it aired) but I’m still having a great time watching it all. It was pretty funny seeing this in that context.",
"I saw the last episode live when it aired. And I hadn’t seen the whole last season so I was kinda lost but wanted to see it since it was everywhere that it was the finale so wanted just for the convos after at work. Anyways. It got to the end and I thought my cable went out right on the ending. I was so confused. I was cursing direct tv which we had at the time and would do that time to time. I was so mad I missed the ending. When I really didn’t.",
"I don't actively care but this would not fly today.",
"It just did.",
"Reminded me of [Martin Brundle being told he \"can't do that\"](https://youtu.be/iprsCPcGLSQ) by Dime-Store Malfoy at the US Grand Prix.",
"You should write a book about it.",
"Alright but you gotta get over it",
"I mean there’s an new netflix special where a comedian makes fun of Jews a lot, no one seems to care.",
"\"You probably don't even hear it when it happens, right?\" \\~ Bobby",
"brundle is a national treasure",
"I mean, Bobby sure heard it when it happened.",
"Ah the finale, that was one of the first things I remember checking out on youtube, all the people speculating on what wtf had happened on the finale",
"RIP Bobby :(",
"I'm very surprised to learn that he never hosted.",
"Choo choo!",
"James Gandolfini was quite introverted, he never appeared on any talk shows. But he made appearances on SNL and Sesame Street. \n[His appearance on Sesame Street is adorable. ](https://youtu.be/Y-v6T4gUmkw) \n\nIt’s such a shame he’s no longer with us, he had so much more to give.",
"Finished watching it for the first time a couple weeks ago. It's a show that, for me, totally lives up to the hype it gets. That final season is pretty much flawless.",
"With a username like that, if figure you'd take more exception to the Sopranos...\n\nSNL is great not because it was hilarious every time (we have South Pstk for that) but because it was always pushing boundaries. Even this would've been pretty edgy fir it's time. Sopranos git away with heavy shit because it was behjnv a pay wall. SNL is network.",
"I finally got around to The Sopranos just a few months ago myself. Always heard it was a great show, I just never got around to it. Man, that was a great ride and I regret not doing it earlier. As I was watching it I kept thinking, \"Damn this guy's a good actor\". Like Tony's a real jerk, he's got some soft spots but come on he's an asshole. I don't want to be around a dude like that. But I just love watching Gandolfini make that character so real, he was amazing.",
"I'm trying to figure out if he's in character, of if that's his real mannerisms.",
"omggg his smile when he gets the lollipop just melts my heart",
"Yeah. I bet phill didn’t.",
"Bobby didn’t deserve it. He was a good man.",
"One of the best that’s ever done it.",
"Bye Pop Pop",
"I just watched the entire Sopranos series for the first time in the last month while I was in lockdown and I think James Gandolfini's performance is the greatest I have ever seen. That and Walter White.",
"They alluded to it several times that season. I binged the show when I was home with a broken ankle for a while and thought the ending was foreshadowed very well",
"Just started season 5 of my first watch through. It really does hold up. It's a little slow-paced, which can probably throw you if you're expecting something else, but it's such a well-written and well-acted show. It's also a very good time capsule of the early '00s in terms of technology and cultural references. Gandolfini makes you feel empathy for the objectively monstrous Tony Soprano.",
"Is it just me or was that kind of painful? \n\n\n* First 45 seconds nothing but audience whooping\n* Gandolfini smirking through half of it\n* Less than half of the jokes actually stand on their own, and barely at that\n* The rest just boil down to a drawn-out pop culture reference (\"He's vaguely threatening and it's funny because he's that mob guy from TV!\") \n\n\nSNL blows.",
"As I remember, people who knew him personally talking about him he was exceptionally humble and kind, basically the absolute opposite of his character on Sopranos. I - of course - didn't know the man so I'm kind of talking out of turn here but, I really think that must have helped him to get this wretched human being (Tony Soprano) to be liked, like an anti-hero.",
"In 1965, a show was released on NBC called *My Mother the Car*.\n\nThe premise features a man whose deceased mother is reincarnated as an antique car, and she communicates with him through the car radio.\n\nBeat that.",
"Yes.....and I have some questions.",
">Dime-Store Malfoy\n\nHaha, the poor bastard.",
"I was in high school when the show ended so all the Bush era references are super nostalgic for me. Starting to feel like an old man.",
"Me too! I finished it about a month ago, and I still miss Tony Soprano! The movie...ugh, that movie.",
"Look him up on YouTube. You'll be shocked to hear him in his natural voice. Better yet, when he briefly portrayed the Director of the CIA in *Zero Dark Thirty*. It's like Tony Soprano never existed.",
"What movie?",
"Hate to break it to ya, but I think you are what blows homie :)",
"bruh I just can't. Tony Soprano is on fucking Sesame Street. Sorry Mr Gandolfini, but I just see Tony.",
"He's more than an asshole. Guy is despicable, but what great writing to see the little inklings of good in him.",
"I've watched the series maybe 3-4 times, but always stop at the last 2 episodes. \n\nWe lost James Gandolfini WAY too soon.",
"[Likely talking about the horrible prequel](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8110232/)",
"Fugettaboutit…",
"*Shakedown on Sesame Street*",
"Cranston as Walter White is fantastic but it's not even close to Gandolfini as Tony Soprano in my opinion. I personally feel there are several performances in the Sopranos alone that beat out Cranston.",
"Someone had to break it to him eventually…",
"*Commences aggressive googling*",
"First time I watched it I had to go dvd by dvd for all 8 seasons through Netflix, they didn't have streaming back then.",
"James Gandolfini just had \"it\". \n\nI don't know anyone else who could portray a, to be frank, overweight and balding guy as the most charismatic, masculine, dangerous and likeable man in the room.",
"I'll be waiting to see your show, when does it air?",
"I was the Anchor for NBC Nightly News for over 20 years, pal.",
"Never seen this before. Thank you!",
"Ive watched stuff from him, that shows different characters, last castle, enough said. But in this clip, it looks like he's portraying a toned down Tony soprano. I just wonder if it was intentional from Sesame Street, or his idea. \n\nKeep in mind, I was high as balls when I wrote the original text, so there's that aspect as well :)",
"Apparently, that's exactly what people want to see.\n\nMaybe SNL has gotten shitty, but maybe it's just that I've gotten older. From the time I was about 12 until about 18 or 19, I loved it and made a point of watching it on TV. I haven't watched it a lot of years, save the clips I occasionally see posted online. None of those have ever made me laugh the way I did back then.\n\nThat said, I loved the Sopranos. And while I didn't enjoy this SNL clip, it was kind of cool to see James Gandolfini (sort of) reprise that role on a different show. Not amazing, but interesting enough to click and watch for two minutes.",
"South Beach Strumpets 4",
"Oh good, then I can accurately critique your work. Links?",
"\"i don't SNL\" is so many less characters",
"Gandolfini was great on Madtv though -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RFdg4CHBgg",
"The sequel set in Norway is pretty good though.",
"He still murdered a guy",
"Is it worth starting the show now? I had my heart broken with Lost, and I know how this series ends.. but I'm worried about starting because I heard the ending was just too abrupt after watching the rest of the series",
"yeah. Google former Anchor of NBC",
"The ending is abrupt but makes sense. There is plenty of context clues that make it clear what the ending means.",
"He might just open a Delicatessen on that uh Sesame Street there. Fuggitaboutit, what are you gonna do.",
"Half of that milkshake money goes to Tony, now.",
"[Easy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heil_Honey_I%27m_Home!)\n\n>Heil Honey I'm Home! is a British sitcom, written by Geoff Atkinson and produced in 1990, which was cancelled after one episode. It centres on Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun, who live next door to a Jewish couple, Arny and Rosa Goldenstein.",
"He was a Canadian. He would of forgiven him anyways.. \nplus it was going to happen regardless. I’ll rather have Bobby do it, at least you know he felt horrible about it.",
"I’m genuinely disappointed in myself for not immediately thinking of Heil Honey.",
"That ending was so accidentally brilliant.\n\nI mean, don't get me wrong, the ending they intended is brilliant. Clearly Tony's dead, what with the whole \"you don't even hear it\" angle that they talked about leading up to it. \n\nBut at the time the show aired, everyone was so confused. I remember someone connected with the show (Chase maybe?) basically said, \"We were never going to come up with an ending that satisfied everyone, so we just let the audience fill in the blanks.\" \n\nWhich if true, is absolutely brilliant and ballsy as hell. Everyone gets to envision the ending they want, and everyone has plenty of evidence to support their view.",
"Man that \"How you doin\" made me smile. I miss seeing James on screen.",
"Good god your easy to spot shitty ass attempt at “viral grassroots marketing” is so obvious that anyone who actually cares about crypto would avoid whatever you goons are yelling about.",
"It's a good watch, like the other commenter said, the ending makes sense.",
"Tony's mother is what sold me on the show. It's fucking frightening how well she is written and acted. Probably the best depiction of narcissistic personality disorder I've ever seen in film or television.\n\nThe psychosexual stuff with Melfi is a little too Freudy for my taste, but god damn is the show well written.",
"what did you think of my work?",
"Finished it for the first time just last night! I cry-laughed at how much I liked the ending.",
"Im not here to do research post a link",
"The movie was totally fine. They never intended it to be like to show. It's an excuse to go back into that universe. I'm thrilled that they plan on doing more."
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James Gandolfini never got to host, but Tony Soprano did stop by the Weekend Update once on SNL
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"Why don’t I know her name",
"BRAVO!",
"They go better with couscous.",
"Katie Porter, California's 45th \n \nShe's a real one: \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcUCIJiqnTE",
"AOC gets all of the attention, but Katie Porter is amazing!",
"Wow one CEO after another she just laid down the hammer on them..bravo!",
"I agree but seriously, rule 1.",
"She always does a great job at grilling the people she is questioning.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpdhD4ZLBxc",
"Katie Porter is an absolute maelstrom of poignant arguments.",
"And she did that while unpacking her car.",
"I'd love to peek out my window and see my neighbour tipping M&Ms into jars and yelling at CEOs in her driveway",
"KATIE PORTER!111!!1!!1!!!1!\\\\\n\nsorry, she's so good I get a little excited.",
"Dear god, that intellectual smack down was the equivalent of Mike Tyson fighting Pee Wee Herman. She demolished them.\n\nSadly though, facts, data, evidence, and solid arguments don't do well with the American public.",
"I get where she’s coming from but these are systemic problems that can’t be fixed overnight. They’ve got 20-30 year investments & contracts that have to be fulfilled. They can’t just flip a switch and not bankrupt the global energy systems. We needed people to stand up in the 1990s.",
"The thing is that the same companies are promising the same stuff for over 60 years and they are doing nothing. They had their time to fix their mistakes and still they are lobbying for some bullshit that makes them profit and they are lying over and over.. \nWhen the first rocket went to space they were telling the same lies and nothing changed.",
"There’s a lot of finger wagging to go around but they were completely enabled by everyone around them including us. The last three recessions were caused at least in some non-minuscule percentage by high energy prices. And the next one probably so too where Biden is going to give up some leverage to them. We want too much with no sacrifice.",
"\"us\"? What do you mean by that? You sound like a shill. \nWe want too much with no sacrifice? Are you sure we did not sacrifice the entire planet for few companies because they... what? allowed us to sacrifice it and it is \"our\" fault now?"
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Lawmaker grills Big Oil execs with M&Ms and bags of rice
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuYDHqhQlGg
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"Bruh \n\nWhy are there people still on the island let alone that close to the volcano itself…",
"Why the dude still there?",
"Why the dude still there?",
"The island is large enough to be at a safe distance from the volcano.\nThese people taking the video are scientists I think.",
"I was hoping it would hit some of those plants and set them on fire.",
"**[Monogenism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monogenism)** \n \n >Monogenism or sometimes monogenesis is the theory of human origins which posits a common descent for all human races. The negation of monogenism is polygenism. This issue was hotly debated in the Western world in the nineteenth century, as the assumptions of scientific racism came under scrutiny both from religious groups and in the light of developments in the life sciences and human science. It was integral to the early conceptions of ethnology.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)",
"That my friend is a Goron.",
"That boulder behaves neither like a bomb (it doesn't explode) nor a like cannon ball (it doesn't travel through the air).\n\nNice clickbait you got there. Be a shame if something happened to it,",
"What does monogeism have to do with this?",
"I was thinking maybe it was a technical name",
"Probably compared to a cannonball in the way that it's such a heavy object that has a whole load of momentum in it, much the same as the cannonballs that rolled across battlefields.",
"Bob loblaw lobs lava bomb",
"Did anyone go take a fresh bite into that gorgeous and tasty snowball?",
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_bomb\n\n\"Cannon ball\" is a little more colloquial, but I think it still conveys the shape and size of the bomb pretty well. OP probably didn't even choose the title of the video on youtube, although I may be wrong about that.",
"Happy birthday, rock!",
"Ya shame OP he used the correct term to describe something and you got confused!",
"Right on. You're Joe Meteorite and I'm Joe Dirt.",
"I'd take that thing home",
"Guess it was a dud",
"A few notes...\n\n- They misspelled \"cannonball\".\n- A video shot in 2021 and it's uploaded in 360p? Really?\n- That's the decoy lava ball, while everyone's watching that one go past, the volcano sneaks the real one up from behind!",
"Alternate title: boulder being born",
"Uh, lava BOMB?",
"1000 years later… “How did this huge boulder get all the way out here?”",
">Video by H. Geiger.\n\nThe landscape does look almost alien...",
"Never seen a semtex roll like that.",
"After 10,000 years, I'm finally free!!!",
"Do you believe in evolution?",
"wouldn't like to be a building in the way of that",
"It sucks this happened all those days ago, I would have loved to see this with a modern camera.",
"Lava don't like being told what to do.",
"When I imagine a bomb, they're usually a bit more [square.](https://www.tobyscs.com/files/csgo-how-to-rename-bomb-guide.jpg)",
"The pioneers used to ride those things for miles....",
"dang, hope you got a refund",
"I always wondered how they got their spherical shape considering they are spewed out of a volcano, makes perfect sense now.",
"Bob Loblaw lobs lava bomb, look live on Bob Loblaw's Law Blog.",
"This may be a sign you are too close.",
"Seems like hot balls are a thing in La Palma.",
"Lava is very much like my toddlers.",
"So this single volcano is *still* erupting after over a month now, yeah? Wow!",
"and antivaxxers",
"Most canon balls did their damage to infantry while rolling or bouncing. The most common cannonball injury was getting your leg taken out.",
"Fair point.",
"As in they’re both best kept sandwiched in the earth’s mantle at least 18 miles below the surface and held at a temperature above 1292°F for millennia where they can’t brainlessly extinguish innocent life on earth as we know it? Agree!",
"> Belief is for stupid people\n\nDo you believe or not believe \"Belief is for stupid people\"?",
"That makes a lot of sense since there's probably a much shorter window of time/distance covered where it both hasn't hit the ground yet but is also low enough to hit a human than after it hits the ground and keeps going.",
"So is your claim that you neither believe nor not believe that \"Belief is for stupid people\"?",
"This new Sonic the Hedgehog 2 trailer sucks."
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Lava bomb rolling down volcano (La Palma)
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https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qhz2zf/deleted_by_user/
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"This movie was so bad!",
"I had just discovered KISS (Destroyer, Double Platinum) when this first aired (oh, dear lord) 43 years ago, so I thought it was incredible. But in truth it's only one level above the Star Wars Holiday Special, which aired less than a month later and was obviously horrible even to a 10 year old.",
"I remember watching this on TV at the house of a guy my mom was dating. I remember wanting her to marry him because he had two daughters and I thought it would be cool to have sisters. I was probably quite wrong.",
"I had this on VHS! I am not a big KISS fan but I always thought this movie was a lot of fun.",
"I knew a girl about 20 years ago who's dad wrote this movie. She was embarrassed a bit by how god damned much I pressed her for info because I was a MAJOR Kiss fan when it came out and was way to young to realize how ridiculous it was.\n\nI honestly can't totally remember what she said about making it other than her dad had very little time to write it, and was basically told to \"write a movie that allows us to film at night at Magic Mountain, and we have like a week where we can feature the Kiss guys.\" And despite that I think they brought in another writer who rewrote everything.\n\nI think he bounced around after that but had no other credits; I'm sure the stink of this movie didn't help much."
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"Not my proudest fap",
"Sigh… *unzips pants*",
"The old darling on the right wriggling her fingers is adorable",
"Sigh… *unzips 2nd fly* (because I have two dongs)"
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Used to volunteer at a nursing home. They just dropped a video for daily good feels.
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"Is that really new star trek? I am being bamboozled. No. This I will not believe.",
"It is not like the target demographic would in any way change over last 40 years... I bet that we would not like to use more of 1966 Star Trek moral principles to be used as much as we use the moral principles of 80s show. Soon even ideas from 80s will be outdated.",
"With the example provided in the video - do you think the moral or ethical standard presented by the 80's version is outdated?\n\nAnd if it is - do you think the end result, where a ship is over run by an alien species, a crew member loses their life and the captain faces tribunal was more desirable outcome than the older show where the crew are forced to work with someone despite the challenges and ultimately it makes that individual stronger and the crew stronger as a result?\n\nIt seems to me that the overarching message of Star Trek is that of a positive future. Aspirational characters expressing behavior that is unrealistic for our time, but perhaps achievable in the future. Demonstrating the best of us. \n\nThe old show seems to show an example of how to handle that situation in a positive way that leads to a positive outcome. A manner that isn't always expressed in today's world. The new show seems to show an example of how not to handle a situation like this and leads to a very negative outcome - a manner that is easily referenced in todays world.\n\nYou could argue - however - that below decks is really just a fun experiment with the Star Trek brand and in this instance it could be considered comedic value. This would however, contradict that positive future that you see with most Star Treks and void the argument that this new show - as demonstrated by this episode - somehow depicts more modern ethical values.",
"You can pick any number of franchises to make a dumb comedy.\n\nOld trek had standards, new trek doesn't. It is just \"fun\" or \"dramatic\" whenever needed no matter the consequences.\n\nNew trek teaches people to treat \"weird\" people like they are lesser people. Great show considering they ham fisted as much lgbtq+ in as they could.",
"TL:DR Read Long and Suffer.",
"It's a little misleading. Larkin was both incompetent and immoral, and had serious social problems to the point where he could not get along with the crew. Barkely had severe social problems and holodeck addiction but he was competent ( and even something of a genius, he later found a way to communicate with Voyager ) and a decent person . So the actions in both scenes made sense because the contexts are totally different",
"This. When I commented I forgot that there is whole community of Trekkers going after me after that just because I commented about one situation taken out of context. xD \nI will be checking back soon just to see how many essays I get in the comments.",
">This would however, contradict that positive future that you see with most Star Treks and void the argument that this new show - as demonstrated by this episode - somehow depicts more modern ethical values.\n\nOr humanity and an artistic change to the property. I love TNG, but TNG is TNG. You can't break the universe and still call it Star Trek, but you can definitely portray a comedic alternate framing of the universe.",
"How can you just get rid of Archer like that?",
"How fucking insufferable. I couldn’t last the whole clip!\n\nI honestly can’t tell which franchise shit itself and smeared it all over its legacy harder, Star Trek or Star Wars.\n\nIf only we’d let franchises gracefully pass into history instead of propping them up with the latest writer’s room rejects and strapping tropes to them like Frankenstein’d abominations.\n\nFuck modern media is depressing.",
"Poor guy probably ended up flipping burgers somewhere.",
"To be fair, this is from Short Treks which is a sort of goofy set of short-film vignettes. This episode pretty firmly had its tongue in its cheek.",
"That vocal fry, yick.",
"To be fair, it's canon.",
"Didn't Barkley create proxies of his crew and subsequently beat the shit out of them?\n\nI'm pretty sure Barkley was acting out in ways that could have had serious consequences.",
"Discovery is such a junior high school level show, chock full of sci-fi cliche and tropes it is nauseating. They even go so far as stripping the trekking out of Star Trek. Now they just plug this cord into a space bugs ass (and later a guy's) and poof-plam whippy zam... you're there! No travel, no space anomalies to happen upon.",
"wtf is this other startrek? i watched piccard and discovery and this is neither of them...",
"...yes? Never said it wasn't. Just contextualizing that this is not one of the mainline series and thus had an intentionally different creative tone.",
"Hmmmm. Well, I'm not a trekker. You made a reasonable comment that I attempted to respond to in what I thought was a reasonable manner. \n\nI'm sorry if what I wrote came across as anything but and I'm sorry if my reply was lengthy. \n\nI'm not the one who downvoted you, I simply replied.",
"This is from a skit. It's a joke. It's not meant to be taken seriously.\n\nI get hating the new series, I do too, but holy fuck you nerds have a stick up your asses sometimes.\n\nIt'd be like watching a scene from Hogan's heroes and going: \"Wow, the luftwaffe is insanely incompetent in this, how could they do this?\"",
"Yeah the new one has some crappy actor choices, a voice actor and this girl with the fake big eyes, she has more charisma as a CGI.",
"it is below decks so not as bad and Piccard or Discovery seeing as they are trying to copy The Orville still bad, but it doesn't make me angry like Piccard or annoyed like discovery.",
"i thought below decks was animated... \n\ni may check it out.\n\nthe orvile is seriously a fucking amazing show...",
"I’ve seen this video before and it breaks my heart now just as much as first viewing. Why did they do to Star Trek… all the optimism and camaraderie amongst crew members and friends; all sucked away and replaced with cynicism and mean spiritedness. Even if this is from one of those less serious series of shorts, that doesn’t excuse it in my eyes.",
"it might be short treks then I don't star trek died when they cancelled enterprise.",
"yea but that was in a holodeck. I don't think that means very much. It is on the same level as being mad about your boss and wishing you could beat him up in your imagination. Doesn't mean you would actually do it. If it is then a lot of redditors who watch incest porn are seriously compromised morally simply by watching it",
"I think they are referring to how doofy it is and how much worse the acting is.",
"He created proxies of the crew, and proceeded to fuck the women and beat the men.\n\nSo yeah.",
"What in the world was that lol star trek vs a parody? that can't be real",
"Nah, I think he ended up as a school coach.",
"i hated they canceled that show. it was just getting good and stretching its legs.\n\njust like stargate - the fucking CEO didnt like scifi shows so he pushed it out. such bull shit",
"Which if I recall the show actually makes a point of calling out as creepy and unhealthy. Like the characters acknowledge that it's fantasy, but it's not an appropriate fantasy to indulge in.",
"Yes. It was a parody actually. Yet people here are freaking out anyway",
"yeah idk why that channel did a comparison lol I'm so lost",
"They shoved it all in the transporter and it wound up on \"The Orville\"",
"The Orville is so good. I hope the long hiatus doesn’t affect the quality when it comes back.",
"I know this is not taken from Discovery. But Discovery is truly an embarrassment. It's a soulless, poorly written, forcefully emotional disgrace.\n\nI am genuinely surprised anyone actually likes it and that it keeps getting renewed.",
"That Alita actress is fantastic in a Netflix series that is so fucking surreal and creepy.",
"In my opinion, Trek. Star Wars at least attempts to maintain the original spirit, fun action adventure. Star Trek has betrayed the original idea. The optimism is gone, the ethical high road is gone, and now it's schlocky action. Also the Mandalorian was fun, people liked Rogue One and Solo, and a fair deal liked force awakens.",
"I hate this channel. Not because of the video but because of the goddamn thumbnails for their videos. It's (part of) what is wrong with youtube, along with the thumbnails of the creators gasping and forced perspective....crap.",
"my main gripe with the modern scene is that they are using 2021 sounding dialog and tone - the whole \"and this conversation is over\" is a product of current times and not how people would speaking 200 years from now.",
"lol what? I'm 99% sure that never happened. I remember goddess Troi, mommy Beverly, and sword duels with the men. No fuckings or beatings",
"It's not below decks. That's an animated show. This is short treks, a small series of short stories",
"it's literal garbage that makes a mockery out of Star Trek. Literal Space Hitler was integrated into the crew.",
"The team running Star Trek today has completely given up on the utopian premise that Roddenberry started and that drove Star Trek writing through the 90s. It's really disappointing. A well executed utopian sci-fi could be so powerful in today's world.",
"It's like the worst example to use. It was writtten by the dude that wrote Portlandia as a bit for H. Jon Benjamin and they pretty much told him \"Do Archer\" and the whole thing was meant to be a one off.",
"This video feels like someone really wanted to have a 3 minute video but only had 90 seconds worth of content.",
"Completely agree. Hell, I went back and watched the original Star Wars and came away with a surprising realization: *they were* ***never*** *good movies*. They're cheesy, fairly poorly acted, and in general pretty hokey. The prequels made it worse and then the sequels were just marketing grabs...but every generation of them have all been pretty crappy movies for one reason or another. I realized that the lore and universe of Star Wars was actually far and away more interesting and attractive than the movies themselves. My best Star Wars experiences have come in the form of video games and books.\n\nStar Trek, I do not feel that way about at all. The original series was cheesy, but it was still *kind of* thought provoking. It came into it's maturity for a good run (TNG, DS9 and even Voyager), but ever since the remake movies, it was sold up the river to turn it into a brainless action series with the Star Trek logo on it.",
"It is from the Short Treks which are part of Discovery between seasons. For myself I love discovery and all things Trek, it's surprising to me that people can't find enjoyment in different types of shows within this universe. I guess we're both shocked.",
"It’s been a long road, getting from there to here.",
"This is real Star Trek???\n\nI thought it was a parody. Holy shit.",
"THIS!\n\nThis is what irks me.",
"It’s canon, end of discussion.",
"I just watched that TNG episode last night, a very good episode to be sure. Anyone else who watched, was Barclay on the spectrum? My wife and I were discussing his issues and it seemed to me that he was.",
"It is real, it was made by the same company, writers and show runners of Star Trek Discovery. It was one of a few \"Short Treks\" made between seasons and not part of the Discovery story. But it is cannon, for NuTrek, and like the other shorts, it is very much \"real\" and indicative of the level of television that is being made by Secret Hideout, the TV division of Bad Robot, and sadly the company who now owns the license to make Star Trek. Although nothing they've made looks, sounds or feels like Star Trek.",
"Comparing the original to a parody... makes sense.",
"Having grown up in the 70s that was the problem I had with That 70s Show. Most of the show's dialog was late 90s.",
"Rose Salazar. Do you mean \"Undone\"? In the US it's on Amazon Prime. Really good show done with an interesting animation style. She is a good actress. The only reason she's unlikeable in this Short Trek is because of the horrible writing which is in all NuTrek. Discovery and Picard are made by people who have admitted they never liked Star Trek, and the writers have clearly never seen any of the actual Trek shows or movies.",
"But I can just keep commenting and continuing this thread.",
"So both TNG and Discovery had a time loop episode. The TNG episode was what got me into Star Trek in the first place. In Discovery, the loop could have easily been exited if the main character just sent an immediate message to the bridge about the stow-away she knew was there. Instead, she first had to learn to dance or something. I stopped watching after that episode.",
"Discovery is the worst offender. There’s none of the working together and trusting other officers. The conflict is always “I want to do this” “but I say we do that” “we’ll I’m going to do this.” The old star treks would have something crazy happen to a character, they report it, the team all splits up to investigate no matter how crazy it sounds. Now if something crazy happened to a character the rest of the crew would treat them like they have 3 heads and ignore the problem.",
"I dont know how you made it this long on reddit behaving like this. this is why I ended the discussion. I'm having you banned on r/videos. end of discussion.",
"it's just this one and discovery that's bad. Picard was great",
"MOOOOOODS. GET THE MODS, THIS GUY KEEPS DISCUSSING AFTER THE DISCUSSIOM WAS ENDED",
"He gets in a bar fight with holodeck Riker in an early scene where he beats him up, and I think it’s implied that the goddess Diana was a sex thing.",
"Agreed. It's a sad commodified husk of what it used to be. I miss old trek.",
"Ben Katz*",
"Son of famed psychologist Dr Jonathan Katz",
"To be fair though,",
"It's canon",
"It's subtext, but very-present subtext.",
"[This is clearly Barclay venting his frustration about his crewmates in an extremely disturbing manner.](https://youtu.be/tAV7p5wJUig)\n\nThere's nothing harmless about it. The way this behavior was ultimately resolved would ultimately solve this problematic behavior. By helping Barclay resolve the source of the frustrations rather than finding some bizarre, overly simplified simulacrum where he can behave belligerently to a crew that doesn't deserve it because he feels too shy to express his feelings in real life.\n\nIf someone I work with is creating proxies of me in the Sims and burning them alive or beating them up - while I may never find out about it, I would want to know about this. I'd find that kind of behavior extremely disturbing and I'd want to know what I could do to help alleviate those frustrations. In Barclay's case - it was the crew recognizing this issue and identifying the cause - his crippling shyness and self doubt. This allowed him to open up to people and express his feelings in a more heathy, constructive manner - rather than internalizing all of this frustrations and then unleashing those frustrations in the holodeck - to no avail other than short term feelings of satisfaction.\n\nThose projections are how Barclay imagines people think of him and none of it was accurate. Even Geordie who openly expresses frequent frustration with Barclay seeming inadequacies doesn't arbitrarily hate Barclay - he just wants a functioning crew mate. And while he thoughtlessly dismisses Barclay - it takes Picard to remind him of his responsibilities as Barclays superior and as his fellow crew mate. Geordie and Barclay go on to form a positive, functional relationship when Barclay over comes his problems.",
"In fairness, TNG is constantly shitting on Barkley for his anti-social behavior. They make efforts to try and change him, but it never actually works. They don't just fire him, but they come close. And ultimately he leaves the enterprise and finds a role more suited to him working on holodecks.",
"Last time this video was posted, a bunch of shills went downvoting everyone and calling them out for cherry picking scenes from next gen and Short Treks. So i gave them the benefit of the doubt and actually watched Short Treks and Discovery and found that they were a complete dumpster fire. Star Trek has been skinned and its skin is being puppeted by a bunch of zero talent corporate execs hiring zero talent writers ticking as many boxes as they can.",
"It's not Star Trek, it's something else.",
"I think their point is that they trotted them out as tokens to hit a demographic and the content of the show was pandering and condescending. Just my guess, though.",
"This one with HJB is by far the best one.",
"I mean I get how this hits different from the OG, but no cap, queen had to go off on his sassy ass. Boomer always been sus and even in this clip he’s so extra she hada yeet him. Dude prob got the vid anyway.",
"Yeah dude we old :D\n\nTOS is now referred to as 'Ancient Star Trek'",
"I watched two episodes of discovery and it was all I could stomach. I later watched one episode of Picard and gave up on that too, I couldn't watch them do that to my boy",
"noooooo it was not",
"The sad part is... it works. I kinda can't blame people for doing it, because it is proven to get more people to watch your video, so you'd kinda just be throwing away money and exposure by not doing it.",
"And TNG is also of its time.",
"STD is awful",
"Nope, lower decks is great season 2 is legit trek especially by the end",
"but who cleans the toilets ?",
"what a joke lol",
"Probably means Brand New Cherry Flavor, it's on Netflix and it's a trip.",
"The cartoon is Lower Decks, Below Deck is a bravo reality show about luxury cruise ship workers.",
"The acting by that girl in the yellow is terrible to a cringe level, I've seen better acting on redtube \"spending the day with my stepbrother\" LOL.\n\nWhat show is this? Is this show as bad as it looks in these clips.\n\n*Update: She's in the IMDB top 500, so she sure is \"someone\", as it was suggested it very well could've been bad direction.",
"I’m so glad I grew up watching Picard model how to be a leader among men. ngl, I’ve tried to do him proud in my managing of people.",
"Typically STDs are.",
"Yeah, and he’s presented as being a little off. So yeah, the show clearly isn’t condoning it.",
"I still have my Star Wars toys from when I was a kid but I really sort of hate Star Wars now. Disney sucked it clean. Same goes with Star Trek. They're just money generators for the parent companies and have no heart.",
"I don't think the acting is the problem here. I think the script is the issue.",
"It's a difficult problem for writers in general. For example, in Stranger Things a character says \"that's a bad look for you Mayor\" which is clearly a modern expression and not something that belongs in the 1980s.. however there is a difference in degree between it accidently slipping in and not even trying. Of course no one knows how future English will be, so the best bet is to use neutral language and tone ( which I think TNG mostly did, although no tv show is perfect in this regard )",
"I watch Star Trek yearly in chronological order from ENT, TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY. That's all there is for Star Trek.",
"I went to watch this Short Trek episode and the guy deserved to be spaced with 2 minutes of his appearance. Picard would have fed his butt to the borg.",
"Where in Voyager he still gets shit on for his antisocial behavior, which has developed into an addiction to holodecks and an obsession with the missing Voyager. Granted he finally gets his recognition in the end being a massive part of the Voyager rescue missions, but still.",
"I wasn't trying to suggest Barclay didn't have issues, I was originally just contrasting him to Larkin in the original post, who did cruel experiments on animals in the real world. Barkely could be helped, though, so Picard made the right call in not transferring him and intervening with his issues. Whereas the Discovery Captain also made the right call writing Larkin off as a lost cause.",
"Discussion over.",
"The new Trek isn’t written for those that grew up and loved the Kirk, Picard, Sisko & Janeway versions. The Archer version (Enterprise) was ok and did stick with the principles and ideals. Discovery is just horrible with too many bad plot holes and dismal character development, unless you’re Burnham. Picard (the new show) is much like Enterprise - ok at best. \n\nI have to hope that this incarnation of Trek is the equivalent of the last three Star Wars movies. I hope there’s a Star Trek version of the Mandolorian in our future.",
"I agree TNG was pretty free of catchy modern phrases. In that 70s show the writers weren't even trying. I guess maybe their target audience wouldn't know the difference and would relate to more to characters that spoke the way they did.",
"100% missed opportunity",
"If only Disney had bought it. I know star wars isn't great but they didn't skin it like buffalo bill like cbs did.",
"Never seen discovery; huge fan of tng. You got nuance. this juxtaposition bothers me so I'm curious of your opinion. do you think the morality of next generation holds true with discovery? Like would Picard, Geordie, and riker stand with the decision to boot off Larkin or is there a clear break?",
"I would say that the 70s show did a great job of capturing the overall tone of the era, and the characters seemed like actual people from that time period.",
"That's true.",
"Discovery is uneven trash, but trying to integrate and redeem an evil character is very Trek. The execution was bad, but you say that like the idea was out of range of what trek would do, which I don't think it is.",
"Not really. It's from a series called *Short Treks*. Some of them relate to the plots of the other current shows. One of them was literally a cartoon. This one was clearly a farcical comedy piece that is disingenuously being used to compare to a serious \"real\" episode.",
"Picard is ok,you are dumb to ignore the nostalgia lol",
"I don't think so. His awkwardness comes from his social anxiety, not from a lack of reading social cues.",
"Unless...",
"Who is she? I seen her somewhere but can't remeber.",
"Picard is what I would expect of a TNG fanfic written by a 14-year old edgelord.",
"I think in this case absolutely yes .. read this wiki entry for details\n\nhttps://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Edward_Larkin",
"Attempting to redeem an evil character is very Trek. Just accepting their evilness because they look like and old friend of yours is not.\n\nIf the crew of the Enterprise went back in time and plucked up old Adolf from his bunker before he could shoot himself, regardless of how much personal growth he eventually went thought, could we ever justify a heartfelt moment where the crew reminisce about all the good times they had with Hitler as they send him back to Germany a \"better\" man? No punishment for committing some of the most horrendous atrocities in human history? Just a big hug and have a good trip?\n\nI love Michelle Yeoh as much as the next man but fuck me was that some morally bankrupt storytelling. Star Trek, of all things, should be better than this.",
"Oh yeah, dude deserved his fate",
"Nothing ever directly stated, and the spectrum wasn't really well known enough at the time for the writers to include it. But it's very likely.",
"Give Lower Decks a shot if you haven't already",
"I knew I recognized that voice!!!",
"Soooooo every major franchise in the last 20 years?….",
"That's basically the first season of Voyager which they set up really well. Fighting over the chain of command, trust issues, few ethical dilemmas, and then by the end of the season they're working as a regular crew.\n\nDiscovery just constantly keeps the internal drama going and going and going and doesn't resolve it.",
"nonsense",
"The biggest difference between the old and new is probably the tone. Discovery has this high school douchebag clique vibe. Everyone's a condescending asshole that needs to have the lest word. Pretty much every major character in DSC and PIC is just a shitty person.",
"Sorry what is this show? My brain cannot comprehend this “New Star Trek” to me this feels like a YouTube channel making a short… is this for real a show that airs and is part of the ST universe?",
"She also looks like she’s in her 20s. Captain Kirk was young and he was late 40s in the script… right?",
"when i first saw this, i thought the \"new star trek\" was like a skit put on by like some youtube comedy group or something. it was just really badly done and poorly acted and poorly written, and just shit all around.\n\ni think this isn't so much old trek vs new trek, as it is decent writing vs utter dumpster fire writing.",
"How are her eyes huge in the YouTube video before you click play then it is normal eyes?",
"I tried to watch last season since the 31st century sounded interesting. Nope it was terrible. I never finished the season. How do you even make the 31st century boring?",
"Yeah I watched this. I think it was supposed to be comedy but it was so nasty and mean. No captain should ever treat her subordinate like that. Then she showed zero remorse after his death and even called him an idiot. Wtf. Sociopath captain.",
"I heard he turned into a can of beans",
"Discovery gets pretty good by the second and third season. It’s not next gen, but even next gen was pretty bad until season 3.",
"Like fax machines",
"**Old Trek:** *Actors from present time pretending to be people from the future.* \n \n**New Trek:** *Actors from present time pretending to be people from the future acting like people in present time*",
"I just meant to point out that you misunderstood the original comment. They were complaining that the show was just *using* demographics to tick a box or as cheap tropes rather than to explore character differences and push the boundaries of social norms like the show's original brilliance did. I think you read it as them being upset that diverse characters were represented at all, which I don't think is what they were saying (thankfully. sick of that sentiment and how seemingly popular it is).\n\nI don't see how Chekov or Uhura were ever considered tokens. Most people at the time didn't want or expect them to be there. A token is someone that's jammed in just to tick a box but otherwise ignored. There's an important difference between technical representation and actual inclusion.",
"> Star Trek has been skinned and its skin is being puppeted by a bunch of zero talent corporate execs hiring zero talent writers ticking as many boxes as they can.\n\n*cough* J J Abrams *cough*",
"Your comment is flying over Reddit's head, sadly.",
"Wagon train to the nursing home..",
"Ted Lasso in space sounds great.",
"The problem with making your protagonists utopians is that you need to invent a utopian society - no problem, totally simple, right? - and then stubbornly stand by it no matter what kind of criticisms get levied at it down the line.\n\nIf you somehow succeed, your franchise gets boring and repetitive. Everybody knows the society's values. Everybody knows what they're going to do and say. Their own internal struggles will be handily dealt with by the utopian machinery, because if they're not, then it isn't much of a utopia!\n\nBut it's much more likely you'll fail. Then... wew lad.\n\nBesides, think back to how often *some* part of the Federation gets criticized in TNG. Rose colored glasses, man. They were seriously entertaining *declaring Data a piece of property* because it made for a cool episode. That's a meta-holy-fucking-fucking moment of \"didn't you Star Trek guys fucking watch Star Trek as kids?\"",
"Then again, old Star Trek is so little science and so much fiction that it's honestly hard to watch. \n\nTypical Star Trek TNG episode: Episode begins with the ship finding a sentient energy cloud floating in space. The energy cloud figures out it can use the ship for its purposes and enters the ship's computer and lives inside it (because it can do that). The energy cloud can leave the ship's computer and hijack people instead, brainwashing them, and then leave those people and jump back into the computer as it wishes. Because it can do that. \n\nRest of episode the crew tries to figure out who is currently taken over by the energy cloud and how to eject the energy cloud back into space. No explanation about wtf this energy cloud is and in the end nobody seems to really care. \n\nThis is a real episode, lol. There are countless ones that are similarly ludicrous. I honestly don't get how Star Trek got this image of being about scientific stuff because it just isn't, most episodes are completely bonkers. Like I said, hard to watch.",
"The Orville has picked up this mantle.",
"I don't care what her age is I care that she's can not act at all even a little bit. Sometimes it's not their fault, hard to say, but it's really bad, unbelievable and her delivery is stupid. IMO. \n\nSometimes a good actor is asked to make bad choices.",
"Jeeze people this is a comedic short trek! It seems like a lot of fans don’t really remember the original series or even the sillier TNG eps. Star Trek is not as stoic as you think, it’s quite horny and melodramatic, especially the original series.",
"Yeah, in the future they'd clearly only be quoting classic Earth literature that coincidentally predates the divergence between the real world's timeline and the show's. ULTRA REALISM!\n\nHrm, wait... maybe it was never intended to be a commentary on the fictional world so much as a compromise in order to connect with the real world audience that's actually watching the show.",
"This is the correct answer",
"It's naaaaaaaaked time!",
"I thought the new start trek was a fan made parody. Had to read the comments to realize it is from the actual show. Wtf!",
"Even when i saw that episode originally as a kid i thought it was stupid. A well-written Federation would have had the rights of sapient computers figured out long ago.",
"377 years ahead of its time to be exact",
"First episode of TNG aired over 30 years ago",
"It’s a separate image meant to get you to click the video. It doesn’t have to be from the video itself",
"He was a role model for me too",
"That's why DS9 was so good though, it's exactly the kind of challenges you're describing. It's just a shame it takes good writers to make it happen and these days those are quite rare.",
"Michelle Yeoh did kill it thought she would have been a great villain a la Gul Dukat.",
"I'm all for trashing on New Star Trek, but this comparison is to a web comedy sketch.",
"I'd criticize the original movies as being cheesy and the prequels as poorly written but watching them you can at least tell that people put some passion into making them. The sequels feel like the Disney money machine at work.",
"It can be cannon and comedy at the same time, which it very obviously is.",
"Anybody else just getting the vibe that JJ Abrams sucks in general...?\n\nLike, he's great at developing an original premise, LOST/Fringe/Cloverfield, but he's awful at follow through. And everything he's touched that wasn't one of his originals has just been terrible.\n\nCould you imagine J.J. Abrams - Dune? lol. Just the idea of that is depressing.",
"Pretty sure that's the chick from the old college humor videos.\n\nHere she is dating [Anime Guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66hSiRgbgX0)",
"Watch all of the Short Treks then re-evaluate your opinion of their optimism and camaraderie.",
"Star Trek: Enterprise was the best show imo with the exception of the last season as that was mediocre at best.",
"True, but to do that they had to diverge even further from the utopia\n\nPreviously there was no need for currency in the utopia but suddenly in DS9 everything revolves around gold-pressed latinum.",
"It's hard to write a story that makes people care in a world with no problems. \n\nI'm currently starting my Star Trek journey, just finished up the first season of TOS and I like that instead of focusing on peoples dramas. thoight it does touch on stuff here and their, it's straight up science fiction about time travel, planets in distress. and evil clones, thought I can see that getting boring for some people.",
"I got it, but it still pains me to read it.",
"I thought season 3 had potential and the early episodes were pretty interesting, but their explanation for 'the burn' was just so stupid that it ruined the entire setting, and the season retroactively.",
"He needs to be part of a team of writers, not the sole or head writer. He comes up with great ideas but just can't conclude them in a satisfying matter.",
"There was still no need for currency *within* the federation, but DS9 was on the border, and so currency was needed when trading with people from other galactic powers (like the ferengi).",
"That is the best thing to come out of Star trek since voyager and ds9 (not sure which ended later). Its comedy that still manages to be star trek.",
"or just a reference to Alita battle angel?",
"Alita battle angel.",
"And yet the terran stuff was probably the most interesting parts of the show.",
"Theory...all new trek is mirror universe....it's the only way to explain the total change in tone.\n\nThe Orville is more star trek than star trek.",
"And Voyager has the excuse of \"we're stuck on the other side of the galaxy with no way to communicate with the federation, and now we have to work together with literal terrorists in order to survive\".",
"> on the border\n\nfurther from the utopia",
"I can't believe they just handwaved time travel out of the picture. I was totally down to see the crew of a future federation ship doing temporal shenanigans like the relativity from voyager.",
"It'd be unrealistic for there not to be a few shitty managers in an organisation of millions of people.",
"Lower Decks has been a super refreshing and fun show. I watched all the new trek except the most recent season of Discovery and it felt like a trudge to get through; and have to say despite all my misgivings, Lower Decks has won me over completely.\n\nIt is clearly a show for the fans of trek, I really want season 3 to hurry up and come out.",
"Settle down buddy, that's disrespectful to 14-year-old edgelords.",
"Was hoping The Orville would be mentioned in here, this is definitely the \"new\" Star Trek. They are following the recipe that made it so great and added some humor in there, and it works.\n\nDefinitely an underrated TV show, the only people I know that's watched it was because I recommended it to them. If you like the old Star Treks, The Orville is definitely something worth watching.",
"If you end up searching for it, the proper name is \"Lower Decks\".\n\nI highly recommend it!",
"Star Trek was always about a crew and their journey through the unknown. Discovery is about a single perfect character who is the answer to all problems.",
"See: Foundation series",
"That ship sailed with DS9 in the nineties.",
"You left out season 4 of enterprise. But yes, lower decks is awesome.",
"I got it but damn was that rough.",
"Misleading video comparing a serious conversation from TNG to an online comedy short from the Discovery universe.\n\nYou can cherry pick quite a few scenes from TNG that have become memes and make those Discovery shorts look like Citizen Cane.",
"No it's gonna be on Hulu.",
"Did that come out after? I did enjoy that.",
"It's bad when the parody of a show is more true to the original than the reboot/sequel. The Orville should be the sequel to TNG and not this dog shit.",
"That example they used was an extreme outlier, but the sentiment isn't wrong. The top comment on yt under this video puts it best:\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>The older shows tried to imagine what humanity COULD be, the new shows just takes humans as they are now and puts them in the future.",
"That new Star Trek looks like it was going to be a porn parody ngl lol",
"I'm sorry are you saying DS9 didn't have the utopian premise?\n\nIt absolutely did.\n\nThe premise and reason for existing of Star Trek, in my view, is a left-wing utopia and challenging it with right-wing gotchas.\n\n\"Oh yeah, you've got unlimited money and no racism... well what happens if X?!\". And episodes explore that.\n\nDeep Space Nine was the ultimate expression of that.\n\nBecause it's a space station not owned but simply operated by Star Fleet. The crew and civilians are almost exclusively not members of the Federation. \n\nThen they get challenged by the ultimate right-wing question of all time \"well, all this hippy bullshit is well and good, but what happens during war time? you'll need us then!\" and that concept is explored.\n\nControversial opinion: Deep Space Nine is the best Star Trek.",
"Those tribbles looked BAD... I much prefer the practical effects of the original tribbles.",
"Not really. In the 80s TNG was radically different compared to how self-obssesed people were back then. And the technology of TNG was so mindblowing it shaped the way actual tech evolved.",
"STD is a fucking mess all over the place. For a brief moment I had hope that we'd explore how the federation deals with actual criminals that have done serious wrong. Mutiny, murder, violating orders, starting wars. You know, a progressive look at criminal reform. NOPE. Let's just ignore that for Spock's brother. ooooof. \n\nTOS was hella progressive and open-minded for it's day. \n\nThe movies had a wide spread, from silly comedy to cerebral. \n\nTNG was the pinnacle. \n\nDS9 was a darker, edgier version that I thought was alright since it's on the frontier. This is Star Trek OUTSIDE of the federation. Uncivilized space. But this trend just keeps going. \n\nThen Abrams destroyed canon. \n\nEven Picard shows a dysfunctional corrupt and backwards starfleet. Jon Luc is pissed that Starfleet has changed. (An alright show, just skip the last episode. Just don't. Accept that there is no payout for any of that mystery. \n\nLower Decks is the closest we've got to that TNG feel, but even then it's pretty irreverent. Dysfunction is all over the place and routinely used as a comedy bit. Sorta corporate office humor stuff. But it's irreverent like ST:IV, it's a comedy. I like it.\n\n\nBut yeah, all in all I think writers are just lazy. They NEEEEED families to by dysfunctional so they have some source of drama to play off of. Of course authority is both full of shit AND incompetent, how else will our characters shine? I dunno if this is all projections of their own failed lives or cynical bent. But that liberal utopia which Roddenberry imagined is all but gone. And I think that's exactly what a lot of people would like to have right now.",
"Wasn't he not involved in these projects anymore after the first seasons usually, outside of leaving his name on the credits? Seem to remember something like that about Lost where basically he stopped writing whatsoever after the first half of season 1 and just had his team of writers pick up the slack.",
"Not at all. There are two seasons out now, with a third on the way and there are rumors it's been renewed for a fourth.",
"To be fair, this isn't the same situation.\n\nIn the short trek the captain is given her first command in a science ship with the task of solving the starvation issue a planet is facing. She is briefed by her personnel about their work including Edward Larkin who proposes genetically modifying tribbles for food. He was unprepared and hadn't even done basic research like if tribbles are intelligent, that would have ethical implications. She decides to go to another direction and reassigns Larkin. He goes aver her head, contacts her superiors and tells them she is bad at her job and dumb. He also ignores her orders and continues with his experiment creating the tribbles we know from the original series.\n\nTransferring someone that undermines her is perfectly reasonable, and its a punishment for insubordination more that transferring the problem to someone else. I doubt Picard would keep anyone who undermines his authority on the Enterprise \n\nPicard and other captains from the old shows also made a dessication and shut down any further discussion plenty of times. But most Star Fleet personnel knows that once the captain makes a dessication they shouldn't argue.",
"I think this is amazing. That there is so much in that episode, and so little in whatever shitfest I just watched where Archer got trampled by tribbles.",
"> you need to invent a utopian society - no problem, totally simple, right? \n\nRight. Especially when one has already been created for you. It's called \"The Federation\". \n\n> Everybody knows the society's values\n\nI was really hoping we'd see how the federation deals with prison and reform after I saw an officer commit mutiny, kill a dude, and start a war. (NOPE, ignored). What does Earth do with everyone that's NOT starfleet? What's religion on Earth look like after we discover Q? Or the prophets? \n\nWhat happens to planets that want to join the federation, but can't quiiiiite adhere to federation rules? How about that one island full of idiots that want to break away from the federation (and then get pissed that they can't vacation in Risa)?\n\nAnd outside that utopian society, I want to know how homeworlds are handled in the Romulan and Klingon Empires. They have huge swaths of territory. You know there's other races in there. Are they genocided? enslaved? Suffer as second class citizens? Simply taxed and protected?\n\n\n>Everybody knows what they're going to do and say [in this known society]\n\nDo you have an idea about what's going on in TODAY'S society? Yea? Are there still stories made in and about our society? WOW! How does everyone not already know what everyone else is going to do and say?\n\n>Their own internal struggles will be handily dealt with by the utopian machinery, because if they're not, then it isn't much of a utopia!\n\nWe want stories about that machinery that's dealing with those problems. Starfleet IS THAT MACHINERY. I want spy-hunters digging around for Romulan spies. I want social workers shielding refugees seeking alsylum from Klingon slave-worlds. I want an outbreak of replicating toasters in the research lab trying to thwart Borg tech. I want philosophers waging metaphorical war over the implications of Q existing. I want smugglers providing predatory sapiosexuals with pon far juice.\n\nAnd just to be clear: There are problems that are TOO BIG for the federation to \"handily deal with\". Namely other major political players: The empires, the borg, the Q, and all the little guys whom they simply don't want to crush. You can make plenty of stories about federation captains just struggling to \"play fair\". \n\nSure, there were assholes in the federation. Like... ALL the admirals that I remember. A utopia doesn't have to be perfectly divine with no struggle, drama, problems, or issues. But when they tried to take Data, they had a trial. Evidence presented. Rational civic debate. How fucking crazy of an idea is that? Talking through our problems? NOT shooting someone? It doesn't have to be perfect, a utopian dream just has to be better.",
"They didn't want to just declare Data as a piece of property, they wanted to re-create him into thousands of Datas. One of the side-effects would be his eventual death, and possibly stripping the thousands of new Datas of their emotional intelligence. It wasn't just \"a cool episode\". \n\nIt was a character study on multiple characters, a discussion about slavery, good sci-fi, and it especially put Starfleet values through the ringer (do we want betterment for everyone at the expense of an individual?) by making the values obscure (can we sacrifice that individual if he barely counts as an individual? he doesn't care or we can make it so he doesn't).\n\nThat's the topic of most \"good\" TNG episodes. Will the utopian values hold up against challenges? How can the crew solve problems while being constricted by their own laws? Will they compromise or will they look to their core beliefs for guidance? Can integrity win battles? \n\nAnd even if Starfleet was utopian, the crew was not. There are plenty of honestly relatable issues between all crew members, and all of those issues are resolved BY their integrity and their maturity and professionalism, and it all leads to them organically growing in front of the audience.",
"Yes. A Star Trek Story OUTSIDE of that utopia. Voyager was even farther. \n\nBut a Star Trek show on earth, dead-center in utopian society would be a welcome relief to the constant display of dysfunctional incompetent immoral self-serving idiots. I think it's why I like Rutherford and Tendi so much.",
"Soo it's completely misleading because this is not a comparison between two Star Trek shows, but between a Star Trek show and a comedy short set in the Star Trek universe.",
"> I agree TNG was pretty free of catchy modern phrases.\n\n\"I have to take a leak\"\n\n\"There's a leak? Where?\"",
"...For a constant LAN party and a permanent 1:1 bridge replication so we can play Bridge commander or Artemis every Tuesday",
">Transferring someone that undermines her is perfectly reasonable, and its a punishment for insubordination more that transferring the problem to someone else. I doubt Picard would keep anyone who undermines his authority on the Enterprise\n\nI believe the decision to transfer this guy is reasonable. Unfortunately the script doesn't aid in expressing this and instead paints the captain as childish. You can actually see in one of the shots later when things are too late, she's explaining why she is transferring the guy.\n\nIt probably would have been better to explain that to him in the meeting she had instead of just telling him the conversation is over.\n\nPicard would be more than willing to explain to a subordinate why he was transferring someone and would make no bones about expressing his frustration without coming across as petty and immature.",
"Start Trek Discovery is basically identity politics, female chauvinism and misandry that is shoved down people's throat. Have a fantastic day reddit.",
"I havent watched any of the new star trek, but is this not an unfair comparison? The clip from the new series looks like a tribble episode and the tribble episodes are always very silly and completely different in tone to the rest of the programme.",
"Give Lower Decks a try. It still kinda portrays Starfleet as dysfucntional, but it's a comedy and it just comes off as way more TNG than STD. And it's not just the uniforms.",
"Star Wars is dead.\nStar Trek is dead.\nIndiana Jones is dead.\n\nAlmost like Hollywood needs to stop beating off the dead horse and come up with originality or at least fund it rather than selling dead horse cum.\n\nI guess there's the Marvel franchise which is pretty good overall. \n\nBut for the love of god, pay your writers.",
"If Picard had issues with the social interactions and competence of a crew member, he would not have dealt with it like it is in the Short Trek.\n\nIt would have still been conducted in a respectful, calm, and professional manner.",
"Its odd because it's just random and serves literally no purpose. It's like it's trying to pretend the video is featuring some crossover or Star Trek \"Alita-ized\" just for people to click it. I hate how people do this shit.",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-N1yJyrQRY",
"\"What are you doing, step-Klingon?\"",
"The first few STD episodes left me somewhat optimistic despite glaring stupidities. I liked the new captains and didn't mind more Battlestar Galatica approach. \n\nBut boy it went downhill from there.",
"Yes",
"Decade ago I used to shit on the prequels all day long, but in hindsight I have to deeply appreciate how original they were. Especially episode 1. The episode 7 felt like a reboot of a reboot.",
"The new show takes humans as they are now, assumes Starfleet has no personality tests before allowing them to join, and has them casually disobey the rules of command or regulations.",
"Captain Kirk was the youngest to ever make SF captain at 33 not long before the beginning of Tos. They've made it clear they do not honor cannon over their \"story\" so I stopped caring.",
"He has one trick. JJ's mystery box:\n\nWrite a mystery. People love a mystery. What's the answer/conclusion? Who cares, you can figure that part out later. Or not at all! By the time you need to conclude your mystery you've already tricked people into wasting their time on your story.\n\nBonus points if you can get yourself kicked off the project before the need for a conclusion. Then some other poor scrub takes all the blame.\n\nThe man is a hack.",
"This feels like a scene from the Orville, which is a good show to be fair.",
"Op has been banned from R/startrek",
"Star Wars has actually been fantastic outside of the new trilogy. The sequels are a travesty, but the Filoni and Favreau shows have been nothing short of incredible.",
"????",
"You think it's impossible to do comedy in Star Trek without abandoning its essential virtues?",
"Too bad they're more or less outliers. \n\nThe Mandalorian has some great episodes in the beginning but at the risk of being downvoted to oblivion, I personally saw it getting kind of worse and had some pretty bad episodes as time went on. It looked very campy and almost Star Trek like at some point. I forget which episode where this started happening byr I thinking was the one where the space villagers first had to fight the AT-AT. Don't get me wrong, Favreau is a good director who actually makes creative decisions and cares about what he does, but there were definitely misses through The Mandalorian, even if it has some great episodes. I like the show, but Incan still be objective about it unless too many fanboys who just flip their shit anytime the audience gets fan serviced.\n\nThe originals had a grit and serious \"realism\" to them even with adult tones despite the science fiction setting that just hasn't been reflected in anything else except for *maybe* some of darker aspects of Rogue One. Now Star Wars has become an overly produced, barrage of CGI and endless of amount of shit just thrown at the screen with horrible writing, terrible creative direction and the bullshit campy tones that only serve 14 year olds.nwhixh, okay use the excuse of George Lucas saying they're for kids but too bad they just suck as films, space dramas or not.\n\nI forget which video game it was for (Old Republic?) But theres a CG animated short cinematic that came out a few years back that is 99% better than anything Hollywood has produced Star Wars related.",
"Yes, it's a fair comparison. You're right about one thing being left out though: new star trek is a comedy.",
"ViacomCBS is not managing Star Trek at all. They don't understand how franchise ownership works.\n\nEven in the most cynical business sense, where you are eternally milking a franchise for money, the Star Trek franchise is not taken care of. At least Disney understands franchise as a business. Star Wars universe and their other franchise have rules, settings, and looks, no matter how much they water it down.\n\nTheir newest: \"Star Trek: Prodigy\" is example of complete abandonment. It's an animated children's show that is seemingly happening in the Star Wars universe, not in Star Trek. No connection to Star Trek at all.",
"Can't believe everyone is getting outraged, it's very clearly comical",
"Sure but those people don't get put in charge of starships.",
"They also gave up on good writing, good dialogue etc",
"I'd say pretty accurate to be honest, I watched two seasons of Discovery and cant remember anyone's name apart from Burnham and Tilly, Till's 'power of Science people' comment and wooden acting when gay science guy goes 'oh yes ensign' and claps..... drivel.\n\n\nThen there's the scene with Michelle Yeoh and that chick with the metal shit in her mouth (I cant remember her name her character was dull and pointless) when they are fighting the AI CG monster guy and going 'oohh' and 'yeahhhh' as they dish out the violence... good lord.",
"I get what you’re saying but I think that’s too generous to New Trek. It’s more like:\n\nOld Trek: Actors from present time pretending to be people from the future. (Level One Acting)\n\nOld Trek on the Holodeck: Actors from present time pretending to be people from the future acting like people in present (and past) times. (Level Two Acting)\n\nNew Trek: Actors from present time pretending to be people from the future but having the same culture and idioms as present time for no good reason. (Level Zero Acting…and Level Zero Screenwriting)",
"I'm saying the point of the Short Treks is not to show stories of essential virtues. It's a comedy skit. And it's totally fair to not like that and to not want Star Trek comedy skits.\n\nBut this is akin to comparing TNG with the new animated show. It's just not the same, and it is not *trying* to be the same.",
"It was the show where the Utopian idea fell. Star fleet was not so innocent anymore.",
"Oof. This was painful to watch. Completely aligns the message [this video](https://youtu.be/Nqmd4iU8J3k) is sharing. I don't know who is writing these female characters and how nobody is objecting to the attitude of these characters during the whole production phase.",
"There is a difference between following a thread of thought and seeing where it leads just for the exploration, and baking a cake that will maximize certain intended metrics to gain approval.\n\nThe first invites you on a journey just to see where it goes. The second cloys and hopes that you will approve of it.\n\nThe pursuit of approval is what recent Star Trek franchises are. They are massively cloying. I wouldn't be surprised if the plots are written according to big data findings on concerns of our time, and how long it takes for viewers to stop watching a movie on Netflix because it took too long for a fight scene to start again.\n\nWhen I saw the first season of the new Karate Kid on Youtube I realized what data driven script writing would look like. There was a certain kind of contrived tempo to the series and plot mechanisms that I keep noticing in popular entertainment today.\n\nWe are being studied intensely for what will capture our attention now. Studied in finer resolution that is far finer than what was yielded by Nelson ratings. Netflix can tell when you stop watching a movie. They can compile statistics to study why certain movies are abandoned. If particular movies are abandoned frequently at the same point, Netflix can see the frequency of dumpage and go take a look at what's happened in that movie up to that point to guess why it got abandoned. They can tell what segments of movies we return to rewatch and if it happens a lot in the same spot they can look to see why a moment is so rewatchable.\n\nAll of that can get logged in an actually useful database for querying. \n\nWe are being understood in ways that we do not personally have to understand ourselves now and our popular entertainment is showing features of that understanding.\n\nIt is jarring to see how we are being manipulated, but as the understanding of our attention mechanisms improves we will notice less of the features of the features of manipulation.",
"All these box ticking monstrocities wearing the skins of popular/familiar IPs flaunting their fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to be *of the same species* as the show they are aping not just missing the mark in terms of writing and direction...",
"Riker and Geordi were trying to get Barclay transferred. Picard is a paragon of virtue who has decades of command experience. He’s the only thing standing between Barclay and a transfer (and even he calls him “Mr. Broccoli” at one point). \n\nIn the Short Trek episode, it’s Captain Lucero’s first command and Edward is being incredibly difficult to the point of insubordination. \n\nYou want to compare “new” Trek to “old” Trek? Picard wanted to genocide the Borg in “I, Borg,” Sisko bombarded and poisoned a Marquis colony in “For the Uniform,” and did we ever get justice for Tuvix? No!",
"Wait...that was a real star trek variant?",
"Riker and La Forge are both in management positions and want Barclay gone. Are they bad managers? Sometimes you have to fire people for the good of the team, and it’s obvious that Barclay is underperforming at that point in the episode.",
"Bingo, yes this one.",
"Pretty accurate",
"Listening to the hamster scene with no video could easily be an Archer episode!",
"The Lower Decks, there's a whole show about it and *it's great*",
"LD?",
"What personality test did Barclay pass? Or Kirk for that matter? \"Disobey rules\" was his thing.",
">To be fair, this is from Short Treks which is a sort of goofy set of short-film vignettes.\n\nContext is everything!",
"Ah, this misleading comparison again. \n\nThe bit with H John Benjamin was written specifically with his character to be a disruptive narcissist. \n\nThe guy literally destroys the ship because of his ego.",
"To be fair, this is a comedy bit written specifically with H John Benjamin's character to be an egotistical, disruptive narcissist. \n\n\nI'm not a fan of Discovery and Picard at all, but this video is horribly misrepresentative.",
"The tele novella Klingons of discovery were comedilcally stupid cardboard cutout villains with no depth. What's there to like?",
"Pretty boss",
"People having a melt down that’s comparing TNG to a series of comedic skits",
"Hell, I don’t know much about “old” Star Trek but know enough that “red shirt” means nameless, disposable crew members were routinely killed on missions while main character officers survived. Hardly a team first utopia.",
"Michael Burnham is legitimately one of the worst written characters to ever main a show. And it’s not even a meme. She actually does cry almost every single episode. There was one episode in season 3 where she cried three separate times. And this is a woman raised by *fucking Vulcans,* who somehow cries ten times more than your average person. (And nobody give me any nonsense about her finally tapping into her human emotions. That’s your bullshit head canon to justify shit writing.)\n\nOh and let’s not forget they tried to humanize a genocidal *cannibal* who has gleefully murdered *billions of people* and are now giving her her own spinoff show. \n\nStar Trek is beyond fucked.",
"Barclays charachter ark was the most important one in SNG for me.",
"In the episode the specifically talk about how unique Data is",
"Your odds of dying are much higher if your name isn’t in the title credits",
"Man, I forgot just how amazing Patrick Stewart was. Also Lower Decks is the only material recently worth being canon.",
"If you're whining about people liking something being shills than you're probably not the highest yield torpedo in the weapon's bay.",
"Fuck this guy's YouTube channel. The entire thing is just shitting on star trek. The clip doesn't even make sense as he comparing a mainline show TNG to a parody one off basically. Hater all the way.",
"\"Get to know the man. Try to be his friend.\"\n\nCrew: (mutiny intensifies)",
"Also, Larkin's captain was inexperienced as a leader and handled her first command so poorly she lost her ship to furballs. \n\nIt was an example of bad command right down to her final takeaway from the HER losing a STARSHIP being, \"Well he was an idiot, not my fault.\"",
"H. Jon Benjamin is a master",
"I expected better from H. Jon Benjamin.",
"yeah that was actually one of the things I hated MOST about it",
"> .nwhixh\n\nShit, man, I can tell how mad you are at Star Wars just by this single word.\n\nWhilst I disagree with your opinion, you're entitled to it. So my question is: If all of these franchises are \"dead\", then what are your examples of modern day shows that are actually high enough quality for your discerning taste?",
"[Hi, I'm Archer.... from that show, Archer.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBDJF4EryN0)",
"Nope, but he made the best Jazz album of all time.",
"ever heard of captain ransom from the equinox?",
"\"Shut up, Wesley!\"",
"The whole Tuvix storyline never sat well with me. I was hoping Janeway would get assimilated after that episode",
"> Rose Salazar. Do you mean \"Undone\"?\n\nThat post you're replying to is one of the most hilariously indirect comments I've ever seen.\n\n*\"A woman in the clip you just watched, who is also from a movie you may or may not have seen, is fantastic in a TV show you may or may not know of, from Netflix.\"*",
"By FAR the best new Trek is Lower Decks. It has the soul of Star Trek in a way Discovery/Picard just don't.",
"But the thing is they are a military organization (of sorts) and there is certain way of speaking, which hasn't changed that much.",
"You think Luke attempting to murder a sleeping child, refusing to help his friends or family, and giving up, is maintaining the original spirit?\n\nIf the sequels gave me anything, it was the realisation that the prequels weren't that bad in comparison.",
"> The Mandalorian has some great episodes in the beginning\n\nI was a huge Star Wars fan growing up but abandoned the franchise after the prequels. I heard SO MUCH PRAISE for the Mandalorian I figured I'd give it a try. I didn't finish the first episode. It's trash level tv wrapped in a shiny skin of expensive cameras and effects.",
"[literally OP](https://i.imgur.com/rAFP13z.gif)",
"That reminds me of All Good Things, Picard had absolutely no hard evidence and yet the entire crew worked tirelessly based on only his word that something was off. It was great to see the different trust levels between the time periods, and it really stuck with me how much they respected each other to go off his word alone. In new trek they probably would have mutinied.",
"There is an extension where people can mark spots which have ads in the video so it automatically skips. I was thinking maybe we could have an extensions where the community members write a non-clickbait titles. For example, I like LTT, but their video titles are pure garbage.",
"Weirdly, as a long time Trek fan, I feel like the writers of Lower Decks actually love and respect the franchise more than those of Picard and Discovery.\n\nI know it's taking a lot of the premise of Star Trek and adding humour, mischief and dysfunction, but at the core they still try to do more of a Roddenberry Trek.\n\nDiscovery and Picard (and I have watched all of them both) just went super dark and emotional. Discovery especially felt like every single episode was meant to make you feel it was the last time. \n\nSomebody transporting to an away mission? Better have an emotional moment between two crew members.\n\nGoing into battle? Better have an emotional moment between two crew members.\n\nFalling out over not meeting someone for lunch? *Better have an emotional moment between two crew members.*\n\n#FEEL SOMETHING!!! DO YOU FEEL SOMETHING?? EVERYTHING IS ON THE LIIIIIIIIIIINE!!!!\n\nLower Decks on the other hand has just fantastic animation, great call backs to the Prime universe trek moments, decent stories, wonderful ship designs.\n\nI've recently been rewatching Star Trek Enterprise, that first season was so damn promising. Ship half finished, no such thing as red alert yet, who are the Romulans? Seeing humanity take it's first big steps into what trek became was such a great premise. But then 9/11 happened, and the writers got it in their head to mirror that and drag us through a boring singular mission season or two.",
"You've waited a long time to use that idiom and you blew it on hyperbole and banter. Good going. Maybe this will be a fun story to tell when you're getting your cum-stained Michael Burnham funko pop signed at your next comi-con.",
"What Star Trek is that? Not Next Gen, the second one....",
"Are we talking about Star Trek or the real world?",
"Yikes",
"Guess who was involved in both of them? JJ fucking Abrams.",
"It's rare to see a nuTrek thread that hasn't been dominated by a CBS hired media team being aggressively defensive about it.",
"Hey at least we got Dune now. Can’t wait for the suits to run an “unfilmable book” into the ground. Although I think Frank Herbert’s son already did that.",
"> Star Wars at least attempts to maintain the original spirit, fun action adventure.\n\nThe original spirit of Star Wars was heroic space opera and the Hero's Journey. Luke didn't walk from action sequence to action sequence kicking ass, he flailed around as a dumb kid in the first one, failed as a trainee in the second one, and by the third one when he'd EARNED being a badass he didn't even use it like a badass, he was calm and collected and drew his lightsaber *last*.\n\nMeanwhile in Nu-Wars Rey starts off as a badass and just kicks everybodys ass from start to finish like a videogame.",
"To be fair Barcley was a genius in many fields, AI, holograms, he even help design the Pathfinder System that help Starfleet communicate with Voyager in the Delta Quadrant using micro wormholes, all this dude ever did was tribbles, which are illegal.",
"Yeah its a great pretext to have your hero be shitty to their own crew and all but there's a reason that Old Trek didn't have those pretexts, because they didn't find value in having a captain that acts like a petulant child.",
"The animation style makes me think its going to be full of insufferable Rick and Morty shit",
"Yes and no.\n\nIt was nearly impossible to write meaningful character conflict or development in TNG because of Gene. \n\nThere was an episode right after the famous \"Best of Both Worlds\" where Picard heads back to Earth, takes time to recover from the trauma inflicted by assimilation, and has to deal with issues between him and his brother. It's one of the better episodes of TNG. \nAnd Gene hated it. Families were not allowed to argue in his vision. Members of the crew were never allowed to have interpersonal issues. In fact speaking of the Borg, the most memorable and developed villains outside the early Klingons, the only reason they were allowed to exist at all was by that point his influence over the show had waned. \n\nThe amazing Klingon civil war? That too. There was no place for that in the 24th century. Hell he nearly refused to allow Stewart as captain because the future shouldn't have bald people according to him. Frakes was told by Gene that Riker should never smile, always be stern and proper. I can go on all day, but Roddenberry was stifling the creativity of the show and 99% of what made TNG amazing was only possible when he stopped strangling it. And DS9 couldn't happen at all.\n\nI will not disagree DS9 started to push things a bit, and I will absolutely agree that Discovery and the reboot continuity have completely lost any of that magic.",
"I mean, I’ve told this to many of my employees and even my kids…\n\nhttps://images.zapnito.com/uploads/NuMGXcrRBC9vmnaMI4ai_JLPicard.png",
"Well I mean\nToS\nTNG\nDS9\nVoyager\nEnterprise\nand now STD",
"What? Is it a Saru funko pop?",
"I thought Picard was going order a code red on Barclay at the end.\n\nAnyone else feel the Few Good Men similarities in the scene?",
"Welcome to the internet. New is bad, old is good, and I'll lie to you to prove that point if I have to. /s",
"Is this the episode where Picard called him Broccoli?",
"OK, but this isn't Star Trek Discovery. It's Star Trek: Short Treks. It's not a fair comparison since Short Treks is designed to be comedic.",
"They shouldn't have chosen a short for this clip because it ruins integrity for people who don't follow Star Trek.\n\n\nBut the truth is they could have chosen any scene from the actual new shows (Discovery and Picard) and had the same effect.\n\n\nThere are many better Youtube videos that demonstrate how Star Trek has gone from thoughtful, positive scifi to mindless action that's reliant nostalgic elements.",
"How is Discovery different?\n\nI would posit that Discovery is a thematic continuation of what was started in DS9. It still uses the high minded Utopic ideas of Star Trek as a backdrop, but it's exploring all the ways that the Federation is (and always has been) a metaphor for the US even when led by liberals - filled with high minded ideals and forever talking about equality and justice, but also willing to do terrible things in the name of the greater good, and often being arrogant, self-serving, and imperialistic, with a healthy does of white saviour complex (even when not being white).",
"Everything is cannon, but not everything is true",
"Correct",
"This may not be good example but I have watched all star trek shows and season and half of Discovery, I can tell you that the suggestion is not far off. \nDS9, Enterprise and Voyager are all superior to Discovery. I have never been so disappointed in the show before. However, I liked Picard as a sci fi show but it didn't feel like Star Trek either. New star trek movies all felt like entertaining sci-fi movie but did not feel like I was watching Star Trek. \nFor what it's worth, that was my humble opinion.",
"Wtf Star Trek is that?",
"I think one of the biggest missteps of modern Star Trek is they also try to shoe horn in modern socio-economic problems into star trek.\n\nIt makes no sense having the terminology, discussions and presentation of the bourgeoisie - proletariat class struggle.... in star fleet. There is no class. Captains are not rich, the workers are not poor. \n\nYou can explore those ideas by visiting planets that have those issues, then have the star fleet crew discuss it. But having those conflicts with the crew makes no sense. With modern star trek wanting to have a continuous story telling structure instead of \"monster of the week\" style structure, they end up focussing way too much on the crews interpersonal conflicts instead of actually exploring the galaxy.",
"The original shows were a passion project for the creators, the new shows are people trying to write their own stories while being forced into the star trek universe. The location in the timeline is also a very poor choice, because the bounds of what happens is already tightly confined.",
"I mean it could be a Star Trek designed to suck and I'll still point out how much it sucks\n\nHow you can you know *anything* about Star Trek and still make your captain such a shitty immature bitch? Why even use Star Trek's setting for that shit?",
"> Sisko becoming a terrorist to the ~~Marquee~~ Maqui\n\nFTFY. And Javert got his man in the end. :)\n\nA big credit to why DS9 worked is the writing of Ronald D. Moore, and his insistence that the series be more serialized vs. the episodic \"alien of the week\" of TNG.",
"I learned a great deal about leadership and ethics from Star Trek. Reflecting on my 20+ year career and thinking back to my youth watching TNG and the OG, I know that I was better a better leader for having watched. I hope the franchise can create similar outcomes as opposed to entertainment value only.",
"The 1990s versus the 2020s",
"I don’t watch Star Trek beyond the 20th Century. Enterprise had some good episodes, but descended into a 9/11 terrorist miseryfest. TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY and the movies for me.",
"I think it is why I am enjoying The Orville as much as I am. Yes it is a comedy but it is the closest thing we have to TNG we have right now",
"I made a comment similar to these sentiments on a different video about the new Star Trek content and I was also downvoted. I had a feeling CBS backed shills were to blame. So I agree with you.",
"The sad part is it's sort of needed if they want to get views. Veritasium did a video on click aircraft and how it's essentially mandatory now.",
"It's literally mentioned EVERY TIME this debate comes up on reddit, do you even reddit?!",
"Riker, Troi and Laforge go onto the holodeck and see a representation of Troi as the goddess of empathy, where she declares that you should shed your inhibitions and embrace love.\n\nThey didn't show the sex but there was definitely sex",
"I too would be using the holodeck in an entirely inappropriate manner",
"I knew criticism of Discovery was bullshit when Pike showed up and suddenly the show was \"brilliant\", even though it had the same writers.",
"The guy that's a pile of regrets and mistakes?",
"ITT, people who don't know the difference between cannon and canon.\n\nEdit: also ITT: People who downvote others for pointing out the truth.",
"The theme to Enterprise is the worst part of the show.\n\nIt's like some Christian rock band.",
"the cautionary tale of the USS Bounty expedition",
"Trust me, as a person who doesn’t follow star trucks, we don’t care.",
"How's life been lately? These are rough times for everyone.",
"The only actual Star Trek show post Enterprise.",
"TOS, TNG, DS-9, and Voyager all share one common theme: They're job porn. Everyone is highly skilled and doing their best. The boss takes responsibility for failures and relies heavily on his experts for solutions. If there's failure, everyone knows they did their best and works together for a new solution. It also helps when most of your problems have engineering solutions and you have a Starfleet engineer that can turn rocks into replicators.",
"[And so is this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JIgAKA80UY) [And so is this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a49K-uzKMZQ) Star Trek has always had its moments of humor and cringe. Its not some unsullied perfect work of serious, contemplative scifi.",
"That's only fair, I am disappointed in Picard.",
"> Or Kirk for that matter? \"Disobey rules\" was his thing.\n\nOnly in the Kelvin timeline.\n\nIn the actual Star Trek universe, there's little to indicate Kirk was some rogue personality. Rather he seems to have been something of a geek. Finnegan hazed him while he was there. As a cadet, he was such an exemplary junior officer he was awarded the Palm Leaf of Axanar Peace Mission. Kirk did \"cheat\" to win the Kobayashi Maru, but he got a commendation for original thinking for it. After graduation, as a midshipman on the *USS Republic*, he logged the mistake his best friend Finney made, a very much \"by the book\" move. He was teaching at the Academy *as a Lieutenant*, something that doesn't seem likely if Starfleet thought he was some sort of loose cannon. Mitchell later remembered Kirk as \"a stack of books with legs\" which suggests that early in his career Kirk was studious and certainly not a hedonistic girl-chaser.\n\nKirk as Captain may have played it a little more fast and loose, but as Janeway noted in *Voyager*, that was how all the Starfleet captains were at the time. The Federation was not as tightly integrated and it gave their captains (certainly those of command cruisers like the Constitution Class) a lot more independence.",
"Be she was so SASSY!!!",
"It's intentionally comedic, but it is *also* canonical. This actually happened and is representative as to how the characters on the show would be \"expected\" to behave.",
"Don't watch Star Trek Picard, you'll only get depressed at how far the once mighty have fallen.",
"Janeway is literally in the first episode. How can you claim it has no connection to Star Trek?",
"I'm so glad about that because I laughed my ass off when she said, \"He was stupid.\"",
"Yah, if only the meritocracy was universal and infallible...",
"Not sure why it's labeled as Discovery. It definitely wasn't.",
"The Orville is like a funnier sillier TNG but it's fantastic. I love the characters on that crew. The main differences I've seen:\n\nPicard pretty much always knew the answer or the right thing to say (edit: and if not right away, he would figure it out by the end of the ep). Mercer does not\n\nTNG admirals and people back on earth let the Enterprise crew recover their people who go missing (i haven't finished TNG so I can't say if this is consistent across the whole series). Orville they say \"it's not worth it\" and regularly tell Ed to abandon his crew.\n\nOrville is funny. TNG has amazing writing with lessons on morals/ethics. Rights and equality. \n\nObviously the tech on Orville is much more updated than TNG and the VFX or CGI used for space battles is pretty dope\n\nI say if you like Sci Fi, just give the Orville a shot",
"Season 1 was not great. Skipped 2. Season 3 was good. I had no real problems with it.",
"Current Trek makes me feel like they watched DS9's *In the Pale Moonlight* and decided that's what Trek should be. Don't get me wrong, I love that episode, but that was a dark chapter in the Star Trek Cannon. And it was *earned*, because of the way the story arc of DS9 was going up to that point. These other two series really just started at a *In the Pale Moonlight* and went full in after that.",
"No, Star Trek has been a post-scarcity utopia for a longer period of it's run than the modern depiction. Earth hasn't declared a state of emergency in over a century, even in Discovery.\n\nThe entire point of the show is that the replicator basically solved most of our issues, and that people who want to do something meaningful and be part of something bigger than themselves venture into space.",
"Damn that was embarrassing",
"You realise his arc is pretty great, and culminates in him being accepted by his crew, forming good healthy relationships etc?",
"Bahaha. God, you fucking people. Watched tons of Trek and thought it was about something other than what it said it was.",
"Star Trek TNG is one of those shows that when it's bad.... woo, It's rrrrreally bad. Absolute cheese-fest. But when it's good, it's SO good. Deeply philosophical and thought-provoking sci-fi.",
"Wait is that actually Star Trek discovery? It looks like a completely different show from the 1st couple of seasons? \n \nEdit: So it's not actually Discovery but a comedy short? Bit of a disingenuous comparison then.",
"Eggs lv",
"I was hoping to find someone recommend Lower Decks in here. It’s great.",
"Picard is what would happen if the only media Shinzon had access to in the mines was Nemesis.",
"I feel like Star Trek fans need to come to terms with the fact that TNG was an outlier, not the norm. No show since has had characters that act with that much integrity. And it never will be like that again. And it sure didn't start with Discovery, either. As if Janeway didn't completely ignore all integrity in every other episode to do what she personally thought was the right thing to do.\n\nKinda sucks, but that's just the reality of it.",
"yeah the theme was weird and a bit too christiany for me. but the show was fun to watch",
"I genuinely think it would have been better received if the intro song wasn't a terrible Christian soft rock song.",
"Is that H Jon Benjanmin?",
"Watch Lower Decks. It's excellent.",
"[Was it this, by chance?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbpDxrew4A0)",
"Having a therapist as a main bridge crew member was a very 80s move, people were obsessed with therapy back then.",
"For good reason.",
"No, there are tons of videos comparing STD and Picard to older Star Trek, and the problem persists.",
"that series from the familyguy too",
"Heresy. There is no new Star Trek.",
"Orville is fun. The first few episodes try to be too goofy, but it gets more serious as it goes on. I hope they can continue making more of it",
"TNG had a few episodes where Picard had to go up against terrible captains and admirals within the Federation.",
"Well, he should have...",
"Check out Under Decks, it's solid.",
"The most amazing part of that song was that the producers listened to feedback about season one's song being jarringly bad, so they made it immensely worse for season two.",
"Post-scarcity doesn't mean there weren't bad people within the Federation. Picard had to deal with bad captains and admirals throughout TNG.",
"Did that spacecraft just get taken over by Protopets?",
"Learned to play the piano?",
"There's a reason it's been bleeding money since DS9.",
"Cool, cool, cool so the new star trek is not like the old star trek and the new one just looks bad.",
"More misinformation. This was Short Treks, not Discovery.",
"As much as I have trouble with Star Trek's new tone and at times terrible writing, this comparison isn't fair.\n\n1. This is a short trek that was meant as a comedy short, not an actual show or series, in comparison to one of the most moving TNG episodes. It's like comparing a joke in Lego Clone Star Wars, to the finale of Empire Strikes back.\n2. The oddball in this case isn't just a socially awkward person, he's literally a dangerous mad scientist at the end of his tether. How he he even got into Star Fleet is a farce on it's face.\n\nThere are things to complain about with the new series, but this is dumb.",
"'job porn'\n\nThat's a very interesting observation. I'd not thought of those shows in that way before.\n\nThey did indeed portray unusually high-functioning teams wrestling admirably (and successfully) with logical and ethical problems. I suspect the success of the shows demonstrated a wide public appetite for this - especially from disillusioned employees!\n\nIt brought up a memory for me. Years ago I read of a company that ran management seminars. Apparently they would regularly employ clips from SNG to demonstrate good practice.\n\nPerhaps along similar lines, The West Wing could be considered 'politics porn'.",
"This keeps coming up. It's an unfair comparison, this is one of the Star Trek Discovery \"Short Treks\", which were comedic in nature. Especially S2. This was an episode about a guy literally breeding tribbles with spliced human DNA. It was absurd.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Short_Treks",
"He also had relations of a carnal nature with them as well. Lets be real, Barkley needed intensive therapy for months to get better, the show kinda glosses over how messed up his actions were. \n\nImagine someone has a virtual puppet of you that's extremely accurate, and then does whatever they want with it. \n\nThat's no cool... and should probably be illegal.",
"Agreed.\n\nAnd it's not as if trek avoids discussing racism or class issues. Whether it's in the earth's past (Sisko as a discriminated against black writer, ...) or near future (Bell riots, ...), or in how alien races and members of alien races treat each other.\n\nBut in the federation Sisko is a black captain, and his race never an issue. Geordie is a black engineer, but no one questions his abilities. Uhura is a valued part of the crew, and that's never questioned ... It's an imaginary future where mankind has evolved, and overcomes predjudice like that. That's inspiring. Marten Luther King even got Nichelle Nichols to stay on the show, for exactly this reason.\n\nA future where man is still tackling these issues, is fucking depressing.",
"To be fair, the new shows destroy a lot more of the star trek universe than just the idea of competent, patient leadership in starfleet.\n\nIn Picard, Starfleet is now a xenohobic, reactionary military that hates androids, and their foul-mouthed admirals will insult and mock one of the greatest starfleet captains in history, because he wants to help one. Earth isn't a utopia like it used to be, it's full of spies and hostility and drug addicts, and appears to be a worse place to live than modern-day Earth.\n\nIn Discovery, they just straight up destroy starfleet, along with most of the galaxy in a big explosion. And that's not counting all the retconning they did of the original races, characters and plotlines since it started off being set before TOS.\n\nI haven't seen Lower Decks because it's just Rick and Morty in a Star Trek universe, and I don't care for the humor.\n\nWe just want a comfy, intelligent show with a likeable crew that wants to get along (even if they fail to sometimes), backed up by a Starfleet that is worthy of being something to strive for. Classic Star Trek was also very often based on setting up a mystery at the start of the episode, dropping some clues along the way, revealing and resolving the mystery, and returning to normal. The new shows never do that, if they do set up a mystery, it seems like the writers don't even know the resolution, it stretches out for dozens of episodes, and the payoff resolution is absurd and unsatisfying when it does come.\n\nI could rant for another hour about these things.",
"I sometimes think of that comment from JJ Abrams, where he said he always wanted to make a Star Wars movie, but nobody would offer him the chance because he'd never done a spaceship action movie before. On the other hand, he said, he couldn't stand Star Trek, but Paramount offered him the license, so he figured he could bang out a few spaceship movies with the Star Trek license as essentially an audition for Star Wars.\n\nHaving watched the new Trek shows, it seems really clear that, like Abrams, nobody involved in making them wants to make a Star Trek show, but the funding they were offered was contingent on them using the license, so they're making the show they want to make and just putting Starfleet badges on everyone's chests.",
"He's one of the best. Not my fav (much love to Sisko) but Picard always landed on the side of defending the helpless, and was willing to put his life and his crews life on the line to do the right thing. \n\nMy favorite quote? \"It is possible to make no mistakes and still lose, that is not a weakness... that is life.\"",
"It is impossible to overstate how bad that intro song is. \n\nIts like going out for a burger at a moderate quality diner, but they wont let you in until you smell the dead rat.",
"Right, but those were outliers in show. They were highlighted as being extremely abnormal.\n\nDiscovery makes no such distinction, Micheal Burnham had no business being on a starship.\n\nThis is largely because the Federation is a socialist society, the replicator has solved almost every material problem within The Federation, and thus there is nothing to even have conflict over, hence why we were drawn to the stars.",
"the shorts are a part of the show, so if u dont watch them you will miss out on some stuff that is later connected to the regular episodes, so i think its a fair comparison.",
"I think that was true in the first season, but the show has gotten a lot better since then. The last season was about precisely that utopian vision, and rediscovering it. I think if you haven't been watching, you've missed the improvements they've made. \n\nThey stumbled badly in the first season, but the show has improved.",
"a web comedy sketch that ties in with the regular episodes tho. If you dont watch them you wont understand why tilly is friends with an alien queen that shows up later in a normal episode for example.\n\nEdit: the shorts are just as much a part of the series as the regular episodes.",
"Ye, comapred to Discovery that is always shit, every fucking episode.",
"Thank you for this reminder of the nostalgia affect that a lot of Fans have for the old shows. They were good... but they were not some perfect pearls of entertainment. To often we forget how convenient many of the stories were, how quickly the reset button was used, and how unsophisticated the story telling could be. \n\nWe should never so romanticize the past and despise the present because it is no 'just as I remember it\". \n\nNew Trek isn't perfect, but it's trying something different, and I for one am here for the attempt.",
"Actually with Pike show moved from utter crap to barelly watchable.",
"A lot of Discovery haters in this thread, with so many of them unironically decrying the modern shows for not respecting Roddenberry's dream Utopian society, while in the same breath making very right leaning socially conservative commentary.",
"TNG is now as old as the average Redditor's parents... It's old.",
"Star trek is basically given any and every opportunity to be a great show... Go anywhere, meet anyone, do almost anything. Let's make shitty drama about the space crew instead... This captain seems like a winner... \"I don't know how you made it this far in your career behaving like this\" Is almost too ironic..",
"You cared enough to go in the comments of a Star Trek video though and respond 😜",
"> when most of your problems have engineering solutions and you have a Starfleet engineer that can turn rocks into replicators.\n\nThank you for putting into words why I don't like so much of Voyager.\n\nI don't really believe that applies to those other Treks, but that's a very good encapsulation of my beef with Voyager.",
"I've been out of the country for 10 years. Is this real or a joke? Star Trek is not this asinine right?",
"The writers managed to make Pike seem like a regular starfleet captain. Why does that disqualify the criticism of the other characters?\n\nYou can criticize a writer for one thing and commend them for another. The writers are not as one dimensional as the characters they write.",
"Burnham is not developed character, she is crying space Jesus Superman. No real development there.",
"Exactly - none of what I just saw makes me want to even consider watching any Star Trek movie or whatever it is.",
"New Trek is cynical and lazy. I don't think you can say anything worse. Given Roddenberry's vision was the antithesis of that of this it's really a terrible indictment of the people running the franchise now a days. They don't even understand the franchise. \n\nI personally don't even think it's Star Trek anymore. It like Trek uncommon valley, it may look a little like Trek but it doesn't have the spirit.",
">I haven't seen Lower Decks because it's just Rick and Morty in a Star Trek universe, and I don't care for the humor.\n\nI thought this too but there are 5 episodes that are really quite strong. If you're willing to invest in just one episode, I'd love to know what you make of the final episode of season 2. I may have been gaslit, but it felt more like Trek than The Orville",
"I concur, Also the new prodigy show is off to a decent start (for two episodes)",
">product of current times and not how people would speaking 200 years from now.\n\nIf you wanna go thst way, technically people 200 years from now wouldnt be speaking modern english or like the old star trek at all.",
"Sheer fucking hubris!",
"This video is idiotic and gets reposted constantly, this was a fucking comedy sketch.",
"Imagine showing this to a person from the 70s, they wouldnt understand it at all. I love seeing how languages change over time. Language fascinates me",
"\"Goes commando\" must mean something different where you're from.",
"Yeah, that was trash dialog. I didn't even know there was a new Star Trek. So I can't confirm if this is real or not.",
"nope. disagree",
"I heard he had quite a dull afterlife.",
"That doesn't stop this particular video from being misleading, though.",
"What a farce",
"Not to rain on your parade but Marvel isn't much better. Those movies lack heart and the filmmakers' touch that is on display in Batman 89, Raimi Spider-Man, Nolan Batman, hell even the first Iron Man. It's like they're cool kids doing a school play and they're too embarrassed to engross themselves into the universe. There's always an element of \"this is dumb, we know\" to it all. They lack a sincerity that I greatly miss in movies, no matter how goofy the source material is on its face.",
"I think this would be easier to take if the new shows haven't continually crapped all over Roddenberry's vision.",
"The comparison is misleading but new star trek sucks fucking balls compared to original trek.\n\nIf it was New Sci-Fi show I would say its half decent but since it has the expectations of star trek and its preset canon it is dogshit.",
"Gotta say, you're not really making a convincing point here",
"eh, if you think rick and morty is insufferable, you might not like it. It's got the same sort of quick-paced dialog. But that's because animation pays by the second. It's the medium.",
"> Yeah, and he’s presented as being a little off.\n\nI think even by reddit standards creating realistic simulacra of your coworkers so you can fuck and or beat them down is more than just a little off.",
"> TOS is now referred to as 'Ancient Star Trek'\n\nlike wheels on a vehicle",
"It's been a while since a Family Guy's clip made me laugh.",
"It was stupid obvious from the very first episode she'd make Captain...and that was the episode she started a war with the \"Klingons\", for fuck sake.",
"I have fallen asleep to classic trek for 15 years and I have absolutely no problem with new trek. Those folks have a hardon for \"Gene's Vision\" when in reality the guy was a misogynistic womanizer with more failed pilots under his belt than should be possible to found a career. The people who made Star Trek great are the writers, actors, and all the crew who worked hard to make it so.\n\nNow.. if we're talking actual non nostalgia-glasses critique I'd have to say that Picard leaned way too far into nostalgia territory and the whole neural-net cell thing was a big stretch.. but as with everything Trek of you just let them tell the story without questioning everything then it's still a good ride.\n\nDiscovery? I love Discovery. Season 3 imo is a bit weaker than the predecessors, but was still a thoroughly enjoyable romp through the stars. \n\nSome \"Trekkies\" /s just want to cling to the past. You folks wanna talk about how humanity was evolved in TNG? What about the beard conversation at the poker table? What about the multiple rape scenes with Troy? What about the fact that Starfleet was prepared to forcefully relocate a colony of Indians and they barely managed to avoid that? Oh hey while we're at it let's mention Code of Honor. \n\nTake off your Nostalgia Glasses and pull your brain out of your collective asses. Trek has been both a shining beacon of hope and a warning of what may come to pass.",
"i'll agree with that",
"Holy shit, thanks OP. I’ve watched every Star Trek series through Enterprise, and won’t be watching this garbage. Looks semi entertaining, but it’s not even close to being the right formula for Star Trek.",
"Your \"Job porn\" is what I'd like to call a \"functioning society\". You know, competent people doing good. Yeah, I LIKE there being solutions to problems. How crazy is that? \n\nAlso remember that this is a liberal utopia; they don't have to work, they don't get paid, and everyone is there because they want to be.",
"Yes.",
"Thanks for the clarification. I am not up to date on the current Star Trek stuff that's been coming out over the past couple of years or so.",
"I was wondering what that was from. Now I need to go find these short treks. Are they on Paramount plus?",
"Cobra Kai is really good, camp fun though. It's refreshing to see something brought back by people who actually care about the property.",
"I couldn't watch Picard either, it just doesn't feel like Trek for SO many reasons.",
"I’m sure this isn’t an original thought but my dad said (back then) that Enterprise was Star Trek for Republicans…\n\nEdit: you bringing up the intro music made me think of this haha",
"I would find it more relatable to watch Star Trek to have a professional centuries old successful organization but you still wind up working with idiots.",
"Can't say I've watched any Trek made past Voyager since it just doesn't seem like Trek from the clips I see... and if it's genuinely a case of vocal fry replacing Picard then i think I've made the right decision there.",
"Forgot The Orville!",
"Remember when they stole the Enterprise? Iirc they also sabotaged another starfleet ship to pull that off.\n\n>Kirk as Captain may have played it a little more fast and loose, but as Janeway noted in Voyager, that was how all the Starfleet captains were at the time. The Federation was not as tightly integrated and it gave their captains (certainly those of command cruisers like the Constitution Class) a lot more independence.\n\nDiscovery takes place largely just before Kirk's time. So if that was fine for Kirk it stands that Burnham, who was actually punished more severely for her transgressions, isn't some outlier, but unlike Kirk she had to deal with more negative consequences.\n\nYet she's criticized for breaking rules.\n\nIf you factor in Admirals going off the rails, or section 31. Which the internet loves even though it undercut the \"evolved humans\" argument and is worse than Burnham \\**checks notes\\** knocking out her captain in an attempt to prevent the war with the Klingons, even though she knew that it would end her career. Something we the audience know would actually have worked.",
"> Roddenberry Trek\n\nDid you catch the joke where one of the crew members said to another \"*we aren't supposed to have interpersonal conflicts*\".\n\nFor anyone out of the know, that was a requirement of the Roddenberry trek of having the cast not have any interpersonal conflicts or fights.",
"Well, I really do like the show but I didn't count it, since it's not officially Star Trek. The first season was a bit wonky and maybe a bit too silly, but it really found it's stride in the second season (IMO).",
"Please tell me this seriously over plays the difference, I’m not sure how since my god the clips of the new one were awful… like so bad I thought it might be from the Seth mcfarlin spoof of Star Trek…..",
"OP is misleading you. This was taken from a short trek. They're one off stories and usually laid out as comedic. They're comparing an episode of TNG about accepting our differences to a \"what if\" romp through a tribble backstory. The entire premise of that YouTube channel is to take new trek out of context and ruin the experience for others.",
"You're here. You care. \n\nWhoops there goes your edge.",
"Holy crap, I can't believe I didn't recognize him or his voice. I just watched Archer last night!",
"What I saw in this clip was an incompetent captain. There's no reason whatsoever for her to be acting like a 12-year old Mean Girls wannabe. And, given her response at the end, she's clearly a psychopath, if she would attack someone who died in her command like that. \n\nI can't fathom how what we saw is supposed to be humorous. Being a shitty person is not funny. The only way it would make sense is if it was all imaginary, but I'm told it's canon.",
"wait? is this real?? holyshit did I ever dodge a bullet by not watching Discovery.",
"I thought this was from Discovery, so I was pretty pissed, but now I know it's from some short I'm pretty pissed at the creator, trying to pull a fast one on us.",
"...but it's the captain who is clearly an egotistical disruptive narcissist. She acts like a 12 year old brat. And she lacks the ability to be sad about a crewman's death.",
"of course. there are times, places and domains where left policies make sense, same thing with right/conservative policies.\n\nyou can't solve the reality of society and individuals with only one side of the political spectrum. it will always have to be a rotation or some kind of compromise.",
"> I haven't seen Lower Decks because it's just Rick and Morty in a Star Trek universe, and I don't care for the humor.\n\nYou are doing yourself a disservice. It's campy, sure, corny, sure. You have to have a few episodes to get used to Mariner, but it's fun and has a warm heart to it over all.",
"Eh, it's just not my thing, the cartoon style is so silly and off-putting, and the wacky characters are too obnoxious. I acknowledge that a lot of people say it's got some decent trek story lines in there though, and at least it doesn't seem bleak and depressing like the other new shows.",
"It doesn't really matter. If it's canon, then it happened in-universe. In universe, there is this psychopathic captain who acts like a sassy twelve year old and snarks about her dead crewman being stupid, rather than seeing it as her failing.\n\nThe fact that it's a comedy should mean the clip would be humorous.",
"7 of 9 was pretty amazing.\n\nAlso, Nog of DS9 hit you right in the feels.",
"That parody one-off is apparently canon. So thus not parody and not a one-off. I'm told it's meant to be comedic, but there's nothing there that seems remotely funny. People being dicks isn't funny.",
"I had a boss like that, most unaware unprofessional one I ever had.",
"I seriously thought I was watching a parody\n\n*Oh dear how I was wrong*",
"I wanted to like Picard so bad. The first episode, if I remember correctly, seemed pretty promising but it just... meh.",
"It got rat fucked by the pandemic.",
"I still feel like Lower Decks is a direct response to The Orville.\n\nFor years Seth Macfarlane has been part of Star Trek and wanted to make his own Star Trek, and they kept telling him no, so he went and made his own with Star Treks Brannon Braga.\n\nThen three years later bam, they have a cartoon comedy Star Trek.\n\nIt just felt like a middle finger to Seth Macfarlane because people were calling 'The Orville' the better Star Trek.",
"I’ve never seen the New Star Trek but I was a huge fan of the old. This isn’t going to change.",
"Looks like Star Trek trying to copy The Orville which parodies Star Trek.",
"They conveniently left out the time Barclay seized control of the ship, flew it at a speed so dangerous the entire crew could have been killed and if not stopped, he might have conquered the entire (mortal) universe.",
"Not everything in existence has to be a 1:1 perfect representation of reality. A huge part of comedy is an exaggeration. All that being said it's still a great representation of modern Star Trek vs old Star Trek.",
"I wouldn't be surprised if this were true as everything sucks...Dune was also a disappointment.",
"Yes, Trek had humor. Good natured humor. Not hateful \"humor\" where we see a psychopathic captain dismiss the death of a crewman, after she dissed him like a 12-year-old Mean Girl wannabe. \n\nThere's a reason why people watching the clip can't figure out that it's supposed to be comedic. Nothing about it reads as funny. Try doing that with any of the humorous parts of \"old\" Trek.",
"What a legend Dukat is...",
"Except this clip makes it very clear that the captain is the narcissist. She acts like a Mean Girls ripoff, and is snarky about the death of one of her crew. \n\nUnless this is some imaginary sequence and H John Benjamin is the real captain, this argument about him being the narcissist doesn't make sense.",
"Unfortunately the attitude in DSC is more realistic in a large government organization. The only difference is that it wouldn't have been a transfer but a promotion to another station.",
"Only if you open your mouth and chug the frothy diarrhea smoothie that Kurtzman is pumping out.",
"God the new one's are so awful. Also that chick has one of the most punchable faces I have ever seen.",
"The only bright spot is Lower Decks, IMO. The first few episodes are a little rocky, but you can tell from watching that it was made by people who love classic Trek.",
"Sure, you can argue that these clips aren't a fair comparison. But just compare it with any of the usual Trek comedy. That stuff was always good natured, not infuriating. It's genuinely difficult to figure out what about these clips are supposed to be funny. \n\nIf your comedy is good, it shouldn't be possible for people not to realize it was comedy. For example, obviously Lower Decks is comedy--I could tell from literally any clip.",
"I can't remember the race of human crew members ever being an issue in disco?\n\nI can't even remember it even being mentioned.\n\nDid I forget an episode somewhere?",
"Probably why they did the time skip.",
"Yeah. The psychologist on the bridge was super 80s.",
"As a girl I was socially awkward and terribly anxious. Even all grown up I’m still not great in person. So Barclay is like my spirit animal. Then Sylvia Tilly in discovery.",
"Agreed. At the end of the episode, they do a \"Tribbles Cereal\" parody so yeah, take it with a hug grain of salt.",
"No, it isn't. If someone does something bad, you don't transfer them. You punish them. You court martial them. \n\nAnd, if your in a position of authority, you don't act like a snarky shit. And, no matter how shitty the guy is, you don't makes a snarky wry comment about how he's an idiot when one of your crewman dies. \n\nIf the whole thing is that this one guy is supposed to be a narcissist who you enjoy seeing his karmic punishment, why did they write like a little narcissist herself?",
"That intro honestly prevented me from watching the show as dumb as that sounds (I love all Trek till VOY but never watched anything after). All the other Trek shows had great orchestral intros that got you excited! When I tried watching Enterprise it was that slow, weird christian rock ballad that put me to sleep followed by a cast if characters who seemed so stiff and had no chemistry. I know TNG actors didn't have great chemistry season 1 but it was good enough that I was engaged and interested where it might lead. I know I need to give Enterprise another chance but just saying they didn't do a great job getting Trek fans thinking it was the same as older Trek.",
"That editing was done by a schizo",
"Personally I don't get the hate for discovery. It's a decent show and, it's working, it's attracting new viewers.\n\nJust churning out the next next generation would please nobody but the trekkies and would kill star trek. Speaking as somebody who would personally like to see more trek in the style of the old series you do have to consider practicalities and some trek but different beats no trek.",
"You watched a different show. That happens in one episode--the one that Picard chastises them for. After that, Barclay tends to have his problems but winds up saving the day, and no one mocks him.",
"The only good thing to come out of the new Star Trek shows, is RedLetterMedia's review videos.",
"Gul Dukat was possibly one of the best villains to be put on the screen. The acting and the writing were amazing. Every time you saw him you went through the arc of hating him, feeling sorry for him, and feeling he might be redeemed, only to have you hating him again by the end. It happened time after time, and every time Marc Alaimo had you hooked and hoodwinked. Every single damn time.\n\nAs someone who rewatches it from time to time, he still gets me. Kai Winn, on the other hand, was perfectly hateble every second. Great acting as well, but never once did I think the character was redeemable, or a victim of circumstance. Of course she was exactly what she should be, but Dukat really was amazing.",
"I don't even watch Discovery, but you also gotta love those who complain about it no longer being about an optimistic utopian society, and in the same breath scoff at the \"woke\" politics and diverse casting.",
"I need to bite the bullet and try to get through discovery again. I had kept up with it to like episode 9 then for whatever reason just stopped watching. \n\nDid it get any better?",
"I would argue people can’t tell because the clip is taken out of context and edited against a straight drama episode of arguably the most beloved Star Trek show (including mine). \nAnyone is free to not like the modern streaming Trek shows but a lot of the hate reeks of people reflexively hating anything not exactly like the thing they loved when they were younger. The same exact thing happened when TNG first started.",
"Yep. As if Trek wasn't always like that.",
"Star Trek has always been a woke show. It has always pushed progressive ideas. It's literally set in a world without money, where the greedy capitalists are jokes. From the beginning it pushed for diversity. TNG has an episode about how it's okay to be trans, and how evil it is to try and \"fix\" them. TOS had the first American interracial kiss. They specifically chose a black man and woman to be captains of their series. \n\nTo make a Star Trek that was conservative or even moderate would be a betrayal of what Star Trek even is, far more than the stupid Klingon BS.",
"Star Trek Lower Decks is actually pretty good. Not as good as The Orville, but definately made by people who loved old school Trek just like The Orville is.",
"Going commando, going rogue, potato tomato.",
"Had that vibe since 2009... \n\nI'm just glad everyone else is starting to realize what a massive hack he is.",
"It may be a direct response to The Orville, but clearly the people in charge of Lower Decks care about Trek and \"get it\". I'd be happy if the people running Lower Decks or MacFarlane were put in charge of all of Trek because both shows really display a love for the spirit of real trek.\n\nEDIT: But, yes, MacFarlane does it best.",
"Picard would have had security escort him to the brig. Not been a whiny 12 year old Mean Girl wannabe. And you'd never see him smirking about the death of a crewman. \n\nApparently the joke is supposed to be that the older male character is a narcissist. So why did they also make the captain into one?",
"Lower Decks too, to be fair.",
"this is both new Star Trek",
"At least with Voyager, that was the entire point...you can hate Janeway's decisions all you want but the shows description is basically \"Voyager is cast into a distant quadrant, and they must survive without the help or guidance of The Federation as they try to return home.\" That means making unlikely alliances (like in episode 1 with the rebel Maquis, or later with the Borg), just whatever they need to do to return, and maybe gather some science along the way. They made it clear from the beginning the goal wasn't to spread Starfleet's ideals across the galaxy...if that happens then great, but they're on their own in the wild west where no one gives a damn about you and your lone ship. Gotta survive somehow. Yeah it got ridiculous at times but it still felt like the same universe or timeline.\n\nBut with shows like Discovery or Picard it honestly seems like the writers think they're writing good Trek, yet it doesn't even feel like the same characters, or the same universe. Everyone's forgotten their ideals, everyone's fighting and screaming because drama...it doesn't resemble Star Trek at all, and they don't have an excuse as to why they've lost their ideals the way Voyager had an excuse.",
"Wait is that a defense of this video or a defense of the skit this video is criticizing?",
"I would say it’s not quite Star Trek. It has its progressive moments in its own way, but it lacks that core of social commentary that is traditional in more episodic forms of Star Trek. It feels more like a space opera set in the Star Trek universe. Which is how the more recent Star Trek movies also felt.",
"I've seen exactly one poster go the right-leaning route. Most people just object to this very snarky captain acting like a shitty bully and not like an actual captain. And they object that this \"comedy\" is canon. They don't like that something they love is being treated with irreverence. They don't like that what we saw felt like a shitty CW teen drama.",
"Say conversation one more time mother fucker.",
"that's the chick from Brand New Cherry Flavour",
"I don't know why, but your text comes off as defensive.",
"That video is some of the dumbest drivel I've encountered in a long time, what a shit show lmao",
"The new star trek sucks!",
"I like in season 3 where they had a slightly more upbeat version of the theme song. It made you want to tap your foot a bit before finding a gun to shoot yourself with.",
"If she was a character in a fanfiction people would be mocking her for being a too obvious Mary Sue",
"I keep memory hole'ing that movie lol. Yeah you right, but that kinda lends credence to how rare it happened after the formation of the post eugenics wars government.\n\nIt happens in TNG, but the borg would probably have that affect on any plane they roll up next to.",
"People being hateful assholes isn't comedy. Not on its own. You need, you know, jokes. \n\nThat this clip reads is not obviously comedy shows how poorly this comedy sketch was written. It's bizarre how many of you are saying the guy is supposed to be shit, when the reason we hate it is that the captain comes off like a childish asshole who snarks about the death of a crewman. \n\nIt would not be hard at all to have a captain who told him to leave, or threatened to bring in security to have him removed and taken to the brig. But, no. We get her being a little shit.",
"how is the \"probem\" persisting? Like the entirety of the first season is Michael Burnham going from a scorned Starfleet officer to being a reliable part of the crew.",
"> \"I have to take a leak\"\n> \n> \n> \n> \"There's a leak? Where?\n\nI'd forgotten about that dialog from First Contact. It really showed the slang of today not being understandable in the future.",
"Yeah, I was getting the movie vibe from it as well.\n\nI guess I'll try it again someday, but just not right now.\n\nThanks anyway!",
"Roddenberry’s vision was given up halfway through ST: The Next Generation.",
"Is this porn? It sounds like porn.",
"This thread is definitely full of people who have \"watched\" Discovery through.\n\nI have seen all three seasons and it took some time to find it's stride but I think Discovery found itself. It will never be TNG or DS9 so stop trying to make it that. Watch it for it's own story.",
"Fucking Millennials!",
"I mean you can easily explain away the issues with the other shows as well.\n\nWith Picard, it's because the federation has become corrupt (in parts, anyways). So, just like with Voyager, there's no way to get help or guidance from the federation, etc.\n\nIt's all just an excuse to write \"modern\" characters, really.",
"I really liked Enterprise so definitely give it another go. Just mute the intro.",
"This is the first I've seen of this new Star Trek and it makes me happy that I just don't give a shit anymore. I've got TNG, DS9, the first half of Voyager, and Enterprise to enjoy. All the new nonsense can be thrown out an airlock.",
"Hahah true.",
"IVE GOT FAAAAITH",
"That's weird. They used to be space commies. How could anyone imagine that was a setting for today's socio-economic struggles?",
"> They don't like that what we saw felt like a shitty CW teen drama.\n\nThen they should get off their high horses and stop putting Roddenberry on goddamn pedestal. He was a human being, so were the creators of this show. Most people did not even watch these Short Trek episodes, and they aren't missing anything, while they might be \"canon\", some are clearly better than others and certainly are not representative of the main series in totality.\n\nP.S: Roddenberry hated religion. So stop fucking deifying him.",
"Star Trek's identity was based on examining the human condition through science fiction. Highlighting where we could do better as well as the every day heroics of being human. If the new Treks are just stories in space then they will never be true Treks to me. And I'll always hate them and their creators a little bit for ruining a great thing.",
" THERE ARE 4 LIGHTS!",
"You're thinking of the animated porn parody, Lower Dicks.",
"I get the sentiment the video is trying to convey, but this is an unfair assessment. Having worked in management positions in my life, there are some individuals who go beyond just needing assistance or guidance but actively make teams worse and endanger the whole. That is not to say they are irredeemable, but that the cost/benefit of providing the right coaching/guidance/training or finding a better role for them isn't worth it. Sometimes people are just not the right fit and your good intentions prolong problems while taking resources better spent elsewhere. \n\n\nTL, DR: Sometimes you just have to toss people out of the airlock.",
"No worries, this has been one of the most wholesome exchanges I’ve had on reddit. So it’s my pleasure.",
"Sorry but if you were a huge Star Wars fan, and you hated the Mandalorian, you probably were never a huge Star Wars fan. \n\nIt’s true to form and exquisitely executed. Maybe you should re-watch Star Wars.",
"downvote me all you like but I think New star trek is great. yeah sure it isn't a carbon copy of TNG or DS9 and those shows were good but they were also pretty cheesy, sometimes badly written and had terrible characters and had just as much action in them as New Trek. This New stuff is just made in a time that isn't rooted in the end of the last century.\n\nFrankly, I love it all and I am massively glad that new stuff is being made with as much love and budget as it is. Roll on as much New Star trek as they can make.",
"It’s a one off that is supposed to be comedic so you’re pretty much on the nose.",
"Yeah I gave up on discovery after *spoiler* they went to the future where both warp tech and the federation had collapsed. It was just such a bummer that I just couldn't.\n\n Like even with overwhelming threats like the Borg or the dominion, the values and ideals of the federation generally hold true and persist, making progress and the future ever brighter. Just a 'and here everything is undone, things get worse and regress badly' is just the antithesis of what trek is about. I just quit watching discovery. \n\nFeel free to tell me what happens and if it gets better etc..",
"As long as you can dance, race never mattered in Disco.",
"It's like Luke. The only use the heroes of our childhood have is to be crushed to show us how much we suck and how much better the glorious new world will be.",
"Its kind of better that way. Barclay isn't shown to be just fine despite his flaws, his flaws are serious and have to be addressed. However he doesn't just shed them and become some perfectly self-actualized socially acceptable person either. It's a very realistic and sympathetic portrayal of a person struggling with long term social problems, and he's shown as both bad because these problems keep influencing his life but also good because he's a human being that's defined by more than just his problems.",
"Eh, to me The Orville is all facade - it tries to say things about societal issues, but is really more interested in flashy premises than making a point.\n\nIn the episode about gender reassignment, circumsion is brought up, but brushed aside more or less as \"that's different\" - and apparently still practiced in the future.\n\nPoke too deep, and plots fall apart all over - so many episodes fall apart when facing the slightest scrutiny and applying a modicum of logic to the whole thing. The episode about people born in the wrong month is so illogical it hurts, so is the one where everyone decides on peoples judgement by votes - the characters do not act like highly trained officers of an spaceship, but as hormone-addled teenagers.\n\nIt tries to straddle the line between drama and comedy, and in my opinion, fails at both.\n\nI wanted to like it, I just couldn't.",
"yes but since we don't have universal translators, we make a compromise",
"> Star Trek has always been a woke show.\n\nNo, Star Trek has always been a *progressive* show. Woke is what happened when progressives adopted the attitudes of regressives, it's all the hate and judgement and contempt of old school conservatism mixed with progressive political goals (except the whole \"discriminate against white people\" thing), and Star Trek was *never* meant to be hateful and judgemental and contemptuous.",
"That's a fair take. But I still disagree personally. Shows like VOY and DS9 absolutely changed the tone of Star Trek, but they still held the spirit. No matter how bad things got for these lonely crews in the wild west, you always knew there was a Starfleet at home, where Picard was negotiating with races and bettering the humanity for the mutual benefit of the galaxy. \n\nWith new Trek it feels like all that is gone to me, not just the tone but the spirit. There's little hope, and that feeling of hope for mankind was by far the most appealing aspect of Trek to me. I wanted to live in that world where humanity was *better* than it is today. But when everyone and everything in Trek is dark and angry just like real life it's far less uplifting and more depressing.",
"It's literally the premise of a Black Mirror episode.",
"All good, but if you do ever give that episode a try, please let me know your thoughts. The show has grown on me more than a bit so not sure how objective my eye is",
"I agree that there's a way bigger difference between Picard and TNG and Voyager and TNG, yeah. But I still think that Voyager was already deviating a lot from TNG's spirit. Not nearly as much, but enough for me to kinda lose interest in the Star Trek that made TNG special.\n\nIt's kinda fascinating, really. Today, super flawed characters are all the rage. So a \"perfect\" character like Picard just feels out of place. Makes me wonder what a competent writer could do with a new TNG that would just go against this trend.",
"lol what bullshit. I was obsessed with Star Wars when there were only 3 movies and some books.",
">There are many better Youtube videos that demonstrate how Star Trek has gone from thoughtful, positive scifi to mindless action that's reliant nostalgic elements. \n \nWow, how dare you suggest new Trek isn't thoughtful. The sheer fucking hubris!",
"Canon or not. It's obviously a satirical take and shouldn't be taken seriously. \n\nThis comparison is grievously disingenuous.\n\n*This coming from someone who doesn't even really like Discovery.",
"Oh look. Another hate mongering thread that Iwould make Gene sick to his stomach for y'all gatekeeping star trek and thinking your view on it is the only one.\n\n\nThe fucking arrogance",
"tbh I'm not a huge fan of animated shows in general, but maybe someday I'll watch it. I just started a re-watch of Farscape and I'm definitely not watching it until I'm done that. If you haven't watched Farscape, I highly recommend it to any trek fans looking for some entertaining and well-written sci-fi.",
"I forgive this episode of new trek somewhat. I think they were trying to go with a weird comedy theme and overall missed the mark. \n\nThe new trek has so far really let me down... I think it's mostly because it's formatted like a lot of modern shows... high budget, few episodes etc. Lacks a lot of character development, is not really rewatchable. \n\nI mean once I knew what the plot of each episode was I never felt like watching it again",
"We're talking about the new trek stuff. No one is being honest. Everyone is being disingenuous. People are letting hatred completely cloud their judgment and some of the comments here are just pathetic. Thinking that soulless corporate writers are doing whatever as it their view of trek is the only one.\n\nI don't hate New trek. I hate that it's impossible to be a fan of this without trekkies gatekeeping what trek actually is while ignoring that every complaint about disco was originally made about the other treks.\n\nAnd this whole \"oh trek isn't optimistic anymore boohoo it's just alll conflict.\"\n\nSo... DS9? You know, the show that was all about war and conflict? The hypocrisy is psychotic. You're all willing to completely overlook that show for an argument that doesn't make sense. You can not like discovery but the arguments y'all are using are stupid and purely emotional, driven by zero logic at all. \n\n\nEdit: What a surprise. Gatekeeping asshole fans downvoting without trying to debate because they know they have no solid ground to stand on. Typical cowardly response. It's remarkable. Trek fans have turned into something that Gene would loathe. You're all judging shit immediately based on face value but think you're a Star Trek fan? LMFAO! Sorry guys. Not even close.\n\nDownvote me all you want. You're not a Star Trek fan lol not if you're willing to judge shit based off of your misunderstandings, misconceptions, and ignorance. In that case? You're more of a Big Bang Theory fan :)",
"Finally. A captain who's a even bigger bitch than Janeway.",
"TBF TNG was a very sinister utopia. They basically went around the galaxy making everybody more like themselves whether they wanted it or not.\n\nEven in this video we see Troi congratulating someone on changing to become more like rest of them rather than fitting in as themselves.",
"Which also just straight up doesn't matter but k",
"Hilarious. You're saying the show is stupid but didn't finish the episode and actively misunderstand what was even happening in the episode you referrence because nah dude that wouldn't of helped. They tried. In that episode.\n\n\nMaybe you should finish watching it before whining when your complaints aren't even based in reality.\n\nEdit: Lmao never ceases to amaze me how many hypocrite Trek fans there are. Truth. Justice. Honesty. Upvote the emotional nonsense that isn't based in reality lmfao",
"I tried to point out she was a terrible CO (Edward was not a great officer either but literally no one ever reached out and tried to make it work like Picard did with Barclay - and Barclay ended up saving the day multiple times). Got downvoted to all hell by the pro NuTrek crew. \n\nKurtzman cares not about the values Trek used to stand for, in McMahan I trust (and hopefully SNW puts the live action trek back on the right track)\n\nEdit: the idea this isn’t a fair comparison because it’s comedy is absurd. Lower Decks proves you can do comedy and espouse Trek ideals. The fact they gave her the last word “he was an idiot” instead of something else proves they didn’t care about the messaging. At least Pike had a Picard like message about making it work and giving it a try - she immediately ignored it however.",
"Discovery still has a utopian premise lol",
"The show that has a season 2 ending of OH NO OUR LOVE IS FORBIDDEN AND WILL DESTROY THE UNIVERSE being good?\n\n\nLol",
"> Star Wars is dead. Star Trek is dead. Indiana Jones is dead.\n> \n> Almost like Hollywood needs to stop beating off the dead horse and come up with originality or at least fund it rather than selling dead horse cum.\n> \n> I guess there's the Marvel franchise which is pretty good overall.\n> \n> But for the love of god, pay your writers.\n\nLOL and you expect people to take you seriously",
"JJ is a great director but a terrible writer.",
"Science fiction franchise is not like a trademark. Just because you slap familiar characters with familiar names into something, does not make it so. You must create the feeling, set the tone and narrative right. \n\nYou can make authentic Star Trek movie or TV-series without referencing any characters or using any copyrights. Orville is more Star Trek than Discovery. It even has the more writers and directors and with Star Trek credits than Discovery.",
"So good story telling is gatekeeping?\n\nGuess I'm a gatekeeper then, get the fuck out.",
"Dude killed the entire ship, lied to everyone, disobeyed orders, causes a genetic pandemic on an insane scale after putting the lives of everyone on board at risk.\n\n\nI'm with her. Dude was an idiot.",
"Complaints aren't about story telling, your complaint is invalid :\n\n\nEdit: /r/Conservative poster who says let's go Brandon?\n\n\nLmao Gene would have fucking hated you dude lol your opinion really doesn't matter here when your own choices demonstrate you don't want trek to be real\n\n\nBye bye kiddie",
"Go back and watch TNG. Picard is full of regrets from the very start. It comes up a lot.\n\nAlso, we DO suck. Star Trek says this over and over again. As we are now is not something Treks thinks is okay. We don't get it together until we meet the Vulcans.",
"As a millennial I back this statement.",
"I did actually finish the episode. At no point in the episode did she try to contact the bridge to tell them to not beam on the whale. Feel free to correct me with a timestamp.",
"That video was more poorly edited than anything New Star Trek ever did.\n\nWhat's with the shitty repetition that wasn't connected to the following scenes? What's with the 15 second black space at the end of the video?\n\nThis video was straight garbage. I agree with the concept (of how much the new shows changed things in a bad way), but trying to prove it with an even worse video isn't how you do it.",
"> They make efforts to try and change him, but it never actually works\n\nIt's clear you didn't end up watching TNG very closely then...\n\nThen again, having strong opinions based on ignorance seems to be a new internet staple.",
"Lower Decks on New Trek vs Old Trek:\n\nMariner: So, was the Titan as awesome as everybody says?\n\nBoimler: Eh, it was a bunch of complex characters thrown into heavily serialized battles which always ended in mindblowing twists and made me question the basic tenets of my reality. But who cares about that? Tell me more about this puppet ray! That's the kind of stuff I live for.",
"I'm not putting the blame solely on Kurtzman and his crew. Stewart was reportedly involved in the writing of Picard and ever since Insurrection it's been pretty clear that he probably shouldn't be. He's a good actor, but when it comes to *writing* him he'll just go with whatever he finds fun or interesting over what actually fits the character.",
"I mean it is cherry picked, they chose a Short Trek that was clearly made as a joke. Which is unfortunate, because Disco IS a dumpster fire, and they could have easily made a video showcasing how terrible it is in comparison to TNG.",
"No you didn't finish the episode, or if you did then you weren't paying attention. How do I know this? Both of your comments contradict what actually happens in the show. \n\n>At no point in the episode did she try to contact the bridge to tell them to not beam on the whale.\n\nCorrect but accidentally. ***She didn't need to contact the bridge because she was already on it.*** She specifically suggests ignoring the Gormagander and to not beam it on board. Saru then cuts her off and says that according to endangered species regulations they must beam it on board and transfer it to a safe and designated location.\n\nAlso there's the fact that your initial claim is different than the one in this comment.\n\n>About the stow-away she knew was there.\n\nShe didn't know there was a stow-away tho. The only thing she knew was that Stamets was losing his mind saying it starts with a Gormagander. He was the only one on the Discovery Crew to be able to see through the timeline fuckery but he couldn't keep it straight. \n\nYour entire comment hinges upon shit ***that you aren't even correctly remembering.***\n\nFeel free to correct me with a timestamp. Oh wait. You can't. Because you don't even know the episode you're talking about.\n\n\nSo you wanna try again there kiddo? :)",
"What kind of cannon, like a 20mm?",
"What kind of cannon, like a GAU Avenger?",
"Nu Trek is just Riverdale (or any other terrible CW show) in Space. Horrific writing, story design, character interactions, and motive. What it isn't, is Star Trek.",
"Thanks, for a second I almost went full Marlon Brando “look what they did to my boy”",
"Oh this is going to trigger some folks\n\nSo glad I didn't watch but a couple of the new series crap",
">So a \"perfect\" character like Picard just feels out of place. \n\nFunny enough that was the big problem back in 1987 when they were figuring out TNG, and Roddenberry made a mandate of \"no interpersonal conflict\" in TNG. And the writers basically said \"yeah...that's impossible...you can't have a tv show with no conflict, what do you honestly expect us to write?\". What they ended up with was honestly about as close to that goal as anyone could've done while still making the show compelling, and the characters interesting. There was interpersonal conflict but it was rare, and usually just debating with the same overall goal in mind.\n\nIt could absolutely be done again, those writers weren't magicians or anything. It just might be impossible for the studios to see it that we can go back to that after all this time, where the mandate has been stretched so incredibly far that it barely resembles TNG other than superficially.",
"Star Wars is not dead, it has a lot going on that is positive and great.",
">And no one gets to whine about trek not being optimistic after DS9. No one.\n\nI could get behind that if the shows just weren't so poorly written.",
"Is..... is this real? The new show seem like a parody made by some Youtuber with a green screen...",
"https://youtu.be/w6n-oTNMWkI",
"That would be Paramount+",
"But they arent. My point is that's not an objective viewpoint. It's subjective.",
"Don't ever go to the Star Trek subreddit and say you don't like it, you will be banned instantly.",
"That's not quite what happened. Roddenberry created that mandate, yes. And for two seasons, it was adhered to. And the first two seasons of TNG are *awful*.\n\nAnd then Roddenberry died. And *then* the writers got the freedom to include interpersonal conflict, and they started doing that. Still in moderation, but there was no more mandate. And the show became awesome.\n\nBut yeah, it could be done again. But that would require risk taking, and CBs sure won't ever take risks here, unfortunately.",
">No you didn't finish the episode, or if you did then you weren't paying attention.\n\nMostly I tried to just block it out. I shouldn't have continued watching after the war crimes in the pilot.\n\n>The only thing she knew was that Stamets was losing his mind saying it starts with a Gormagander.\n\nYes, thanks for the correction: the entire plot could have been solved by *Stamets* contacting the bridge at any time. Why did he tell Burnham instead of Lorca? This is what's known as an [Idiot plot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot_plot). \n\n>Your entire comment hinges upon shit that you aren't even correctly remembering.\n\nYour entire argument rest on me getting the character wrong. It still could have been resolved with a simple message to the bridge. But then again, every Star Trek show sucked in the first season.",
"OH FUCK OFF OP, this is a disingenuous comparison between an actual episode and a comedy short.",
"Still doesn't doesn't ruin the integrity for me.",
"Nor are we like, wait a minute... wasn't the glopospiel apart of the antikwa!?",
"Reading is hard for some people but you'll get better at it with practice.\n\nI couldn't care less. The integrity of star trek has not been ruined for me and thats all I'm saying.",
"To be fair the actual show: Discovery, is hit or miss for most trek fans. Either like or it or hate it, have yet to find one that loves it.",
"I will admit that the series has issues with Burnham being able to fix anything, and the series is a lot more focused on one character (her) than most other Star Treks.\n\nHowever, as far as quality goes... A lot of Star Trek has been *really* bad. I tried rewatching voyager and it was hilariously bad, with one season having them coincidentally time travelling every other episode, as an example. I think some people have a lot of rose colored glasses for past Star Trek, or focus only on the good stuff they remember.\n\nThere's nothing wrong with rebooting Klingons. Just because it's different, doesn't mean it's bad. I think making Klingons more alien was atleast an attempt to do something interesting.\n\nThe genetic engineering was specifically called out as an illegal thing they did, and people looked the other way because it gave them an advantage in war. Which is just going back to showing how the Fed is willing to compromise its' values if necessary. If you'll recall, the Federation compromised its' principles in DS9 to allow Bashir to remain in Starfleet despite being genetically engineered (allowing his dad to take punishment, and then to keep a star doctor that they wanted to recruit to section 31 anyways).\n\nI'm not going to say that Discovery is amazing - it's not. But I don't think it's insulting to Star Trek nor out of line with Star Trek as a whole.",
">Mostly I tried to just block it out. \n\nTherefore literally nothing you say on this episode has any weight or merit because by your own admission you're ignorant on the situation and don't know the full context.\n\nThanks. The rest of what you say is irrelevant because you dunno what you're talking about. Like.... at all. Literally NOTHING about your comment has any relevance or merit. So maybe you might wanna pipe down when trying to make a point because you just immediately contradicted yourself, but for the sake of amusement, let's keep going with your nonsensical comment lol\n\n>Mostly I tried to just block it out. \n\nTherefore literally nothing you say on this episode has any weight or merit because by your own admission you're ignorant on the situation and don't know the full context.\n\n>I shouldn't have continued watching after the war crimes in the pilot.\n\nBecause warcrimes have only ever happened in Discovery. K. Whatever you say. Not like that was Siskos whole deal. Lmfao\n\n> the entire plot could have been solved by Stamets contacting the bridge at any time. \n\nNope. He tried which was seen in the episode but to everyones perspective he had lost his damn mind. Which was seen clearly in the episode. The episode you know nothing about which is why your complaints have no weight lol\n\n>Why did he tell Burnham instead of Lorca? \n\nHe tried. Was said in the episode. Again you don't know what you're talking about but trying to whine about this? It's HILARIOUS. It's like watching a toddler insist that the square root of 2 is 807 because they once saw an apple. Like nothing about what you're saying makes sense lol\n\n>This is what's known as an Idiot plot.\n\nIt's literally not though lol the point of the episode is that everyone isn't an idiot but they're all working off of very limited information and when the info starts getting put together they realize what's going on. You're trying to say they're an idiot because they're trying to do a 500 piece puzzle with 7 pieces. K. Lmfao\n\n>Your entire argument rest on me getting the character wrong.\n\nNope see the rest of this comment :)\n\n>It still could have been resolved with a simple message to the bridge.\n\nNope. See the rest of this comment :)\n\nIn conclusion, nothing you say matters because you've openly demonstrated severe ignorance about the episode. More over, you keep doubling down on your incorrect memory and then when pointed out that it was false you go \"WELL WAIT BUT ACTUALLY THAT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE ANYWAY BECAUSE REASONS\"\n\n\nTry again kiddo :)\n\n\nEdit: Actually.... don't lol I don't care what you think. Liars generally are worthless and their opinions even less so.\n\nBye bye. I'll have a conversation with an adult who knows what they're talking about now lol",
"Also the difference between the Civil Rights movement and the progressive left as a whole under leaders like MLK (and Gene Roddenberry), who taught us to fight the evil within our own souls first, and then HELP those we are at odds with fight that same evil within themselves, and the woke left today that defines the conflict in terms of the pure good of the woke left, and the pure evil of everyone else who doesn't agree with everything they have to say about the world.\n\nEveryone who grew up watching Star Trek TNG, including the majority of people who hold mainstream conservative political views, agrees with all the best virtues of classical liberalism and inclusiveness as portrayed by TNG. This is the face of progressivism that truly did change the world. Mainstream conservatism today - when you actually look at it instead of trying to stereotype it by the worst examples - is virtually indistinguishable from classical liberalism in the 80's, SPECIFICALLY because of Gene Roddenberry and Star Trek's influence on the culture.\n\nAnd the deviation from that ideal that has been driven by the self righteousness and false sense of superiority of the woke left, is not only why the new Star Trek is correctly seen as soulless and empty, but also why the woke left today has so completely failed to understand how far society has come as a whole, and why the stereotyping of the right by the woke left has created so much animosity and destroyed so much of that progress.\n\nI was born and raised in a very conservative political socialization. Even then I rejected the idea that progressives were evil BECAUSE of shows like Star Trek. Even as a kid I could see the virtue in stories exactly like Barkley's, and what made Captain Picard's moral leadership so virtuous and estimable. Even today my strong preference in political commentary is for the people who host long form podcasts and have different perspectives shared amicably and debated in a healthy way. I would much rather watch a three hour discussion between Jordan Peterson and Slavo Zizek, than watch Sean Hannity castigate all liberals as scum because of one example that he can take out of context in a society of 330 million people.\n\nOld Star Trek is all of us.\n\nNew Star Trek is also all of us.\n\nEach of us individually has to choose which of those impulses to follow, because each of us as individuals are the only ones capable of defining our own contributions to the dialogue through our interactions with our fellow citizens.\n\nAnd everyone who agrees with the premise of this video is part of the solution. All we have to do is follow the example we all identify as the better of the two. This video is great because it's a road map for everyone to follow.\n\nRegardless of what your politics are, just see that each of us is wrestling with our own misconceptions and limited perspectives of the other. See that the person on the other side of the keyboard is the same as you, driven by the idea that the other is a threat that has to be stopped. \n\nSee that the real threat is the enmity and the ignorance that we hold towards them, as much as the enmity and ignorance they hold towards us. \n\nWhen you see that your own limited perspective has caused you to misjudge and stereotype and contribute to the cycle yourself, you see that you were influenced to do harm despite wanting to do good. The human condition of limited perspective is what caused the problem, not your intentions or your motivations.\n\nOnce you see the real enemy, you fight it by understanding that this is the real enemy both in yourself, and in those you are at odds with. They may not agree with you on policies, but that doesn't mean they want an unfair world where one group dominates and alienates another under a false sense of superiority. They just don't want to be dominated any more than you do. They want the right outcomes, but they come to conclusions that cause harm because they, like you, were duped into backing the wrong play because they see you as a threat rather than as part of the shared solution.\n\nThat's how you defeat that enemy within yourself. When you see that we are all the victims of the real enemy, and we see ourselves in those we are at odds with, then that enemy within ourselves is defeated.\n\nAt that point, we can take on the task of helping others fight that same enemy within themselves.",
"No, I would say the ratings are a reflection of the quality of the writing.\n\nThe new shows have been hemorrhaging viewers, old fans, while struggling to attract new fans.",
"Lmao\n\nSorry guy. Doesn't work like that. It's a show on a streaming service and viewership numbers don't apply the same, especially when you're trying to compare it to basic cable and syndication.\n\nTry again. Or don't. I really don't care because there's nothing that you're saying that's based in reality lol if you wanna whine and bitch based off of your own failure to understand the world then go for it, but don't expect people to hang around in your life when you're doing nothing but screaming high pitched at the top of your lungs because you didn't like a thing but don't understand how the world works.",
"If you only watched the first two episodes of Discovery, you really didn't give it a fair chance. Try getting at least half way through season one. If it doesn't win you over by then, fine, it's not for you. But you're missing out if you haven't even seen the introduction of Ash Tyler and uh... somebody else I won't spoil.",
"It decent, but the characters aren't Star Trek characters, they are Futurama characters. So it's funny, but it isn't Star Trek.",
"Those franchises are only dead because of the absurd \"woke\" theme that they all push so hard.",
"TNG is older now than TOS was when TNG was new.",
"It does matter, if you dont watch it you will be really confused when you watch S2E13 and it starts with the \"previously on star trek discovery\" and it shows parts from that short. \n\nIf it did not matter they would not have included it in the recap.",
"muh strong queen yes kweeen",
"So... You're pointing out the specific reason you don't need to see it as an argument saying you do.\n\n\nNah lol",
"What are you one of the writers?\n\nThe new shows are not that popular, period. Not sure who is screaming, I tried watching them, they sucked, I stopped watching them. The writing was bad and main characters are all some form of Mary Sue. \n\nI am not alone in thinking they suck. \n\nPicard lost half if its audience from the premier.\nhttps://wegotthiscovered.com/tv/star-trek-picard-reportedly-lost-audience-season-1/\n\nDiscovery ratings sucked and is basically propped up because its one of the primary streaming draws for what it is. Not to mention is the worst rated show that CBS is streaming at the moment.\nhttps://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/star-trek-discovery-ratings.html\n\nDon't get me started on what the fuck people were thinking with this show.\nhttps://redshirtsalwaysdie.com/2020/08/13/star-trek-lower-decks-is-lowest-rated-show-in-series-history/\n\nNo offence, but you're the one who is out of touch.",
"I wouldn't call myself a writer, but I read a shit ton and have dabbled a bit in writing. \n\nMy instinct is that to write a good mystery you almost certainly need the answer first and then work backwards adding layers to it. \n\nAnything else and it will feel contrived. \n\nIDK maybe there are people who can do what JJ does, but actually come to a conclusion? Is his fault that he's unable to find his own answer or that he's doing the entire \"mystery writing\" wrong in the first place?",
"So from the way you keep deleting/expanding these replies, it's obvious that you like the show. That's cool. Fandom is fun, and don't let me spoil that for you. \n\nBut I don't have to like the show, and I don't have to have an encyclopedic knowledge of the show to criticize it. There's no reason for you to get this worked up about it. If you want a real discussion, I'd be down, but you'll need to calm down with the insults.",
"\"Here's a comparison of a DC movie and an SNL skit about Marvel, see how dumb Marvel is?\"\n\nThat's basically what this video is doing. I don't give a shit if you hate newer Trek shows or not, this is just blatantly misleading on purpose and actually hurts any real argument against the newer shows and just makes you appear to be a nostalgic fanboy rather than someone with genuine criticism.",
"Thanks for clicking on the submission, making a comment.\n\nShow's that you care and want to contribute.\n\n:)",
"Yes, but Seth MacFarlane isn't funny. I mean, he's funnier than Trey and Matt, but all three of them have been on a steady, downhill roll of edgeboi joke-a-rinos since 1998.",
"* Hollywood\n* Original\n\nPick one.",
"To be totally Honest, i thought this was a joke! I haven't been able to watch the new stuff yet. Hold shit... smh",
"So... You're telling me that if you watched a series and in one of the recaps it showed you things you had not seen, that would not confuse you? \n\nWith that logic, you could skip plenty of episodes because they will tell you the important parts in the recap anyway?\n\nNah lol",
"OMFG great response!",
"> don't lol I don't care what you think. \n\nPutting this at the end of a really long comment explaining why the other person is wrong is freakin hilarious. \n\n>Liars generally are worthless and their opinions even less so \n\n Calling the guy a liar and a child with worthless opinions because he might have gotten a detail or two wrong of an episode of a show he probably watched once a few years ago is also freakin hilarious. \n\nLighten up Francis.",
"It could be, but it could also be this bad actor that no one has said anything positive about. Who is she? Anyone got an actual good clip of her acting in anything?",
"I've been rewatching DS9 recently and I can tell you, there's well over 20 episodes in most seasons and you're not remembering the bad ones of which there are many. Too many people are letting nostalgia cloud the fact that plenty of the old trek was poorly written drivel with a few gems peppered in.",
"Shows that I care and want to contribute to what exactly?",
"I rewatched all the 90s Treks again last year, and while it may have its share of stinkers, I can say with no fog of nostalgia that the writing is 1000x times more competent than NuTrek, at least in my own opinion. Well maybe I'd only consider Voyager only 100x better, but I don't really care too much for Voyager either. I never really even watched Trek until I was adult, so no nostalgia in that respect either.\n\nAnd yeah, this is totally just my opinion. I just mean to say my dislike of NuTrek is just as valid as anyone's enjoyment of it.",
"Reading is hard for some people but you'll get better at it with practice.",
"Oof, you're dumber than I thought. Have a good day, make sure to take your vitamins and get an adequate amount of sleep regularly.",
"In the Trek timeline, next up is a war caused by CRISPR gene enhancement followed by global thermonuclear holocaust. So yea, humanity had to learn some hard lessons to get to where they are in TNG.",
"I was thinking Dr. Katz but okay.",
"Discovery is just as bad, all the way through. They've abandoned Rodenberry's vision wholesale, and all we have left is a numb scifi action series.",
"lol\n\n*\"Your a big poopy meanie face and therefore I'm better than you and everyone hates you.\"*",
"That's totally fair. I just see a lot of people shitting on aspects of newer trek that were definitely present in the older series. So far I've loved everything Star Trek, and while I think not liking something is valid, I just hate that I can't really bring up Discovery or Picard in any Star Trek forum or sub without having 20 gatekeeping fans drown me in their hatred. Sorry that I assumed that included you.",
"I wouldn't say the first 2 seasons were awful, just that season 3 is really where they found their footing and the chemistry all came together (which a huge part of that is like you said, because they weren't as worried about breaking \"the mandate\"). But both seasons 1 & 2 had some really great episodes that you shouldn't discount, Measure of a Man in particular is definitely in my top 5 TNG episodes. Those seasons really get overlooked too much imo because there are indeed more stinkers than not, but the ones that did land were ao good that they shaped the writing for following seasons.\n\nBut yeah overall i do agree that the mandate being loosened after his death made the show better as a whole. But at least even by the final season the show still resembled the initial vision. And I wish we could go back to that time when writers at least seemed to try to keep in line with the vision as best they could.",
"> Also, we DO suck.\n\nI think we sucked less before social justice turned every property we used to love into a battlefield to display how their favorite identity groups are better than their least favorite identity group.\n\nWe're not on track to Roddenberry's dream anymore, which is why Hollywood is removing Roddenberry's dream from Star Trek.",
"Yeah, for me it's not so much that there weren't any good episodes early on, rather than there being unbearably bad episodes in the first two seasons.\n\nGenerally, I feel it's just not a realistic approach to assume that some show or franchise will keep in line with tradition for literally decades. We can be lucky enough when a single show manages to stick to is vision, let alone a franchise spanning decades of films and shows.\n\nNew shows are gonna be different, that's just the nature of the beast. Every example to the contrary is an exception we should be grateful for. And Star Trek just isn't gonna get better anytime soon, from the looks of it. It's managed by people who want to make lots of money, so they chase whatever trend they've seen recently.",
"To be fair, Barkley was a pervy creep that made jerk off fantasies to crew mates on the holodeck, they probably should have transferred him",
"Honestly in the past five years we have things like Rogue One, the Mandalorian, the Bad Batch, Star Wars: Visions, Jedi: Fallen Order, and most people like at least *one* of the sequel trilogy (I'm a fan of The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, personally, but I know the latter is a controversial take).\n\nOn the horizon we have the Book of Boba Fett, Rogue Squadron by the amazing Patty Jenkins, and multiple series.\n\nIt's more like revitalized than dead lol",
"Heh no worries, I mean you probably had the odds on your side that I was.",
"Thank you. I had almost lost all faith in the creative forces behind Star Trek, and was about to write a very stern letter to J.J Abrams who I would blame for all this mess.",
"Fuck the haters Major Grin makes some good comparisons in his videos comparing new and old trek.",
"Pretty sure the video is a parody of comparison videos",
"Haha, I felt bad cos I'm so invested in both of his animated characters. To see him besmirched like this... The comment reminded me of that brief cross-over skit. That was great.",
"Again, thanks for contributing to the thread and proving you 100% care.\n\nBetter luck next time \"not caring\"\n\nlmao",
"Jon Benjamin was in Star Trek???",
"Ite supposed to be satire but honestly you are not missing anything. Discovery is awful",
"I liked the first episode than they ruined the show at the end.",
"I like it. To be fair if it's a space scifi show I'll watch it. I love that they have brought some ideas that I haven't seen in sci-fi like the mycelium network. The time travel extra dimension thing is over done now. I'd like to see them visit more strange worlds with weird customs and creatures. Though maybe that's probably better for a Stargate reboot.",
"I never said they did a good job of it",
"This is why I prefer “Orville”!",
"Touché",
"that's cherry picking a bit though. the \"new star trek\" clips were from a short that was deliberately written to be a small comedy segment.",
"You should be embarrassed to have missed the point of Star Trek this long. Here's a hint, there's a reason the bridge of the original Enterprise looks like the fucking United Nations.",
"It’s going to break your heart when you finally learn that this has been about the integrity of the show being harmed and how much it means to me.\n\nAt this point, seeing someone this far lost on the conversation with so much confidence is hilarious to read.",
"Man you just made me think of how great that would have been. Adding alien technology to their own by ethical or not so ethical means and ending up with a ship of Theseus. \n\nWith a final confrontation between Voyager and the Borgs where we would see parallels of integrating/assimilating technologies.",
"That is the sad part. They did and while it sometimes wasn't 5D chess in terms of story telling, it never was this blunt and stupid as it is now. Hollywood just sort of forgot how to be subtle and now all they can do is complain about Russian bots when people don't like it. New Trek is a disgrace to everything the series once stood for. It's overly emotional and gory without any of the interesting ethical and science problems that have to be solved by level headed people.",
"Why did it take so long to find you friend? I could not have said it better so now I'm assuming you're just me from a different timeline and to set things straight one of us has to sacrifice himself or otherwise a time delusion will kill us all.",
"Here's a hint, Martin Luther King believed all human beings were *equal* and so did Gene Rodenberry, so take your social justice hatemongering and fuck off to Hollywood where they make shit like Discovery",
">I didn't finish the first episode. It's trash level tv wrapped in a shiny skin of expensive cameras and effects.\n\nEveryone is entitled to an opinion, but this one is just wrong.",
"I'm sure the creator treats them as \"Real\" episodes. It's just non-canon trash that should have never been made.",
"I thought you were running away?\n\nLMAO, guess I was wrong. Yes, talk more about how much you actually care, like you weren't crying before about how much you didn't.",
"Youtube is very much trash, the entire internet is just way to boring now. Everything used to be customizable and now nothing is, except oh you have dark mode now. \n\nThe Internet is nothing but depressing.",
">social justice hatemongering\n\nThis shit doesn't make any sense.",
"Honestly your comment was better than that entire thing. Can you just go ahead and make new trek?",
"You really don't see how constant assertions of one race's *moral* superiority over others isn't hateful?\n\nThere are plenty of stereotypes out there. This people run faster, that people jump higher, it's venal and meanspirited but it usually doesn't result in discrimination.\n\nBut if you want to discriminate, you claim that one race is *morally* better than another. Since discrimination is a moral hazard, a morally biased view of the world opens up discrimination as an option. You can do bad things, but only if you do them to the bad people. Then what would otherwise be a violation is *justice*.\n\nMartin Luther King rejected that point of view. Gene Roddenberry rejected that point of view. You should reject that point of view too.",
"It's supposed to be a comedy short, but it is an apt comparison. \n\nStar Trek now is just another sci fi action series. It has none of the charm or optimism that Trek was popular for. \n\nAlso I feel like the writers haven't even watched the original shows because a lot of it just doesn't make sense. \n\nFor example in Picard a major plot point is that the Romulans NEVER used AI or studied cybernetics...despite that clearly not at all being the case in TNG. There are so many other examples but that's one of the most blatant in my eyes. \n\nAlso the writing itself, divorced from the original series, still sucks. Theres an entire plot centered around a Borg cube in Picard that has no purpose at all in the story whatsoever. It's literally just there because DO YOU REMEMBER THE BORG?!?",
"But that doesn't make it good or OK. ST, including STD is a dramatic series. Turning it into silly nonsense even in a short is just a bad idea. To begin with, no commander would bicker like an idiot at a subordinate being willfully defiant and ignoring orders. That's the part where you say, \"You're relieved of duty and confined to your quarters, Lt. Securityperson, escort this man to his quarters.\"",
"Ah yes, the charming combination of attempting fan service while simultaneously shitting all over the original spirit of the franchise. Reminds me of... well, pretty much every other franchise these days.",
"Barclays holograms didn't have sentience.",
"Dude, you don't know what you're talking about. You don't understand \"social justice\" and I'm having a REAL hard time seeing how this even remotely applies to STAR TREK.\n\nAt least read the wikipedia entry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice\nAnd watch Discovery before you make these truly bizarre assertions. Because none of the shit you said is in the show.",
"I’m not even sure how true that is. Watching season 3 of Discovery is a dramatic departure from the star warsy action formula of the 2nd season to something diving into more personal relationships to try and give more characters more dramatic arcs. That show had a bad problem of not investing in any characters other than a handful of them (or ones you were supposed to implicitly care about) and now they’re trying to correct for that",
"I think STD is a garbage fire. But I liked Tilly. Whereas the leads were thoroughly unlikable.. stoic, robotic, or underdeveloped... Tilly was one of the few characters that got to act like a human being. Relatable, sympathetic. I wish she was in a better Trek though.",
"It doesn't get better. It has some fine moments, and even some (dare I say it?) character development that doesn't involve soap-opera betrayal and shocking twists or running down corridors without moving your arms.\n\nBut oh man, the plots and dialog... it's basically the opposite of everything anyone liked about original ST series... they could be intellectual and philosophize, they could be intense and compelling character studies,.. poignant explorations of moral and social issues. STD is the opposite of all that. Intensely stupid, contrived plots, action and melodrama-centric writing, and only the most forced and vapid touching on moral issues.",
"Look you can try to paint it up however you want, but you know what I'm talking about and you know why I'm talking about it. You wanna pretend you're speaking some different language, that's your problem, but when you use it as an excuse to shit on my identity *the same way you resent people shitting on yours* you have to know you no longer believe in anything.",
"90s Trek was definitely better than current Trek but some of the comments I've seen about the comparison between the two are really ridiculous. \n\nI've seen it claimed that 90s Trek didn't have \n\n1) War \n\n2) Often rely on there being \"the galaxy/humanity is at stake\" story lines. \n\n3) Often rely on the main characters being the center of all important events\n\n3) Action\n\nWhile it IS true that old Trek was usually much slow paced and even tempered, the stakes were often just as high. \n\n1) JLP is the center of EVERYTHING. \"Why is it always about Burnham\" Dude, Picard is both the Q's conduit to humanity AND the Locutus of Borg. \n\n2) The Borg were a threat to the entire galaxy\n\n2) It wasn't called the Dominion Disagreement \n\n3) The \"Warp drive might destroy solar systems\" plot point \n\n4) The writers strike aborted story-line from SEASON ONE of TNG that Starfleet was infiltrated by mind control parasite? \n\n5) Genocide was the subject of like every third episode \n\n\n90s Trek had time for storylines where the stakes were low because they were almost 30 episodes a season.",
"I wasn’t, lol. Not everyone likes Star Wars as much as you, dude, it’s okay.",
">Imagine someone has a virtual puppet of you that's extremely accurate, and then does whatever they want with it.\n\nIllegal? Why? I mean, if you invade someone's privacy to obtain personal details, that's obviously way beyond the pale. But otherwise, who cares? Granted, it's super weird and unhealthy if it's someone you know/work with. Like if someone today had a \"real doll\" made to look exactly like a coworker. Creepy shit. Illegal? eh. That should be based on harm.",
"Star Wars tried to continue the same spirit in TFA and everyone had a shit fit about repeating the same notes. So then we got TLJ.",
"You're still here crying. lol",
"Now I’m certain you don’t know what crying is.",
"Yeah. I'm going to put it on the back burner, actually I'm going to just put it outside for the coyotes to munch on. I dont have any desire to try it again.",
"Get it all out. I'm here for you! Look at how much you cared after all? \n\nlol",
"Im looking for sheldons comment",
">you know what I'm talking about and you know why I'm talking about it.\n\nI... think you're a racist, I was just giving you the benefit of the doubt and a chance to educate yourself.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>but when you use it as an excuse to shit on my identity the same way you resent people shitting on yours\n\nI don't know your identity, random internet person. And sitting around shitting on people's identities is not a thing I get up to. I'm no expert but that doesn't seem very social justice-y.\n\nBut I'll tell you what, the day whatever your identity may be (apart from 'racist'), is in my position I'll fight for your rights too, and I won't have to change a fucking thing to do it because that's what social justice is.",
"> I... think you're a racist\n\nBecause I want people to be treated as equals instead of subjected to discrimination. Yes, that's the problem with social justice. If you stand up for equality, they accuse you of being racist.\n\nYou think Martin Luther King and Gene Roddenberry are racists too.\n\nHollywood agrees with you. That's why they make shit like Discovery.\n\n> I'll fight for your rights too\n\nThen you would have to fight against the social justice advocates who want to discriminate against my family. But remember, they accuse my family of being inherently evil, so they use the term \"justice\" instead of \"discrimination\". Will you be willing to fight for my rights then?\n\n\"Who says you have the right to evade *justice?*\"",
"I think they’re all more than the cartoons that made them famous. Orville is great, his work on Cosmos and with Hollywood musicians has been wonderful. As someone who got sick of South Park around 5 years ago, Book of Mormon’s OG run was the hardest I’ve ever laughed in a theater, and probably the hardest I’ve laughed for longest.",
"new star trek is utter fucking garbage, it pisses on everything that made star trek good. the writing is terrible, just terrible, the actors seem to think angry grandstanding is the same as acting, it has no understanding of what made TNG so good. Discovery season 1 was ok, 2 was for mentally retarded kittens. (oh yeah Tilly that thing everyone figured out 40 minutes ago at the start of the episode as the thing that will save you? you figured out it'll save you, congrats you're a fucking genius, yeah, go and congratulate yourself and your friend at how clever you are without a hint of irony!) star trek Picard shat all over itself and ruined the canon with atrocious plot driven science is magic now bullshit, and shat on Data's character legacy to boot. But hey it had 7 of nine, so that will surely save the series.\n\nTL;DR\nyeah, new star trek is just terrible.\n\nEdit:\nat least I'm enjoying lower decks a bit, although I wish they'd stop with the eternal \"return to status quo\" ffs, characters are allowed to grow and achieve things. remember worf? he didn't start out as security chief.",
"Oh, so the new Star Trek is dogshit. \n\nGood to know.",
"It wasn’t a clip, it was an edited video specifically designed to make it seem stupid by removing context.",
"Damn that’s ur favorite moment? Sounds like a RIOT",
"glad I'm not alone. I didn't hate the first season, I could barely tolerate the second but was invested enough to bear through, I didn't finish episode one of season 3, then tried again a few weeks ago, I finished it and now I know I'm done with it forever.\n\nand star trek picard is utter garbage too.",
"That’s what this guy always does. He’s obsessed with taking Star Trek out of context to make the new shows look bad, but he never has enough material, so they wind up so repetitive and dull.",
"Right?! The video literally cuts out where Larkin went behind his commanding officer’s back and forged complaints about her in an attempt to have her fired. They try to make it look like she was just being mean to him by cutting out him directly insulting her. The video is misleading as hell, and intentionally so.",
"Great world building too!\n\nApparently the Romulan Empire completely collapsed because they were blindsided by a supernova (not how that works) so they have former Senators living in shanty towns while also having a super secret Borg Cube project while also having a huge fleet of warbirds but still leaving people to live in shanty towns years later? \n\nYou really have to suspend your disbeliefs to accept that the freaking Romulan Star Empire fell because one planet exploded and they somehow needed the Federations help rescuing them. \n\nOh and remember when Guinan was talking to Picard in Measure of a Man about the outcome of the trial potentially leading to them creating an actual slave race? Not a single peep from Picard about it when the Federation does exactly that. \n\nThe writers clearly know that episode but I feel like they just watched the clip of Picards speech on youtube and not the entire episode. \n\nOh and fuck them for killing Hugh off for no reason at all by the most uninteresting villain in all of Star Trek.",
"Yes Roddenberry’s vision is imperfect and fucked up in certain ways, but the premise that it was a utopia gave the show a power that isn’t present in current iterations of trek. We, as viewers, can question whether what we are being shown is a world that we want to live in. The writers can also use the premise to probe what utopia really means. DS9 did this the best, with Siskin regularly needing to compromise his high minded Starfleet ideas in order to complete his missions.\n\nWithout the utopia premise, none of this is interesting, it’s just our lives set in the future.",
"My responses in this thread have zero relevancy to how I feel about the franchise, lol. Bruh, you sense.",
"Oh, and don’t let me forget that the video tried to call out Lucero for not being the last person off the ship, but didn’t bother showing that she was LITERALLY THE LAST PERSON OFF THE SHIP. Larkin was lost because he refused to board the escape pod as she stood there begging him.",
"It’s a short episode set on a science ship. It’s really good, the video maker edited it to make it look bad because he’s got a bug up his ass about Star Trek being even slightly different from when he was a kid.",
"See? Caring. You. It's real.\n\n:)",
"And deliberately editing important aspects out of the comedy short so that they can make their stupid comparisons and pretend they’re logically sound.",
"It’s for kings, I hear.",
"It’s literally a short about how a competent and mature captain deals with having a shitty immature bitch on her crew, and he’s also a mad scientist who is illegally modifying super-tribbles. The video editor cut it to make her look immature.",
"Short Treks. It’s a series of standalone 10-15 minute episodes set in various places in the Star Trek universe.",
"Yeah and still not about the franchise or it’s integrity from the content shown, lol.",
"I think *Mandalorian* is the best SW in decades. But it has problems. Some of the writing is just bad. Maybe too much camp. An episode-length cringe was the heist/prison break one. As much as I like Bill Burr and Richard Ayoade, they can't save this stinker. It's every dull, played out, heist film cliche rolled into one ep, topped with nonsense so stupid it doesn't make sense in its own universe. \n\n\nSo there's some kind of New Republic alarm beacon and it leads two X-wing fighters to track its source to a space station. They have no idea what the station is or who is on it, just there's this beacon. So these men, ostensibly the \"good guys\", decide to open fire on a facility because of a beacon. Even though technology routinely malfunctions or is simply spoofed by rogue elements.. even though anyone could be in there, and it might be a good idea to know who.. there could be children or innocent hostages. But nope. Gotta wrap up the ep, open fire, murder everyone because.. beacon. Yeah.",
"Is it Roddenberry's vision? It didn't seem like such a utopia in TOS, and I understand he only lasted one season of TNG. He may well have laid out the idea of it being a utopia in the first season, I do not know, but the real cringe for me came in the later seasons when they were rid of him.\n\nI've no idea what they're doing in the current stuff. This video feels reflective of what I see in the real world of acute millennial intolerance of different people, but I don't want to read too much into it and I don't want to have to go and watch more of it to inform myself properly.",
"The show can't seem to keep straight what the Mando is supposed to be. Is he a savvy, smart parole officer.. or is he a clueless moron? \n\nLike the time he showed up on planet whatever looking for the mcguffin o'the week. And some super sus guy shows up with a sketchy background who Mando doesn't know at all and says Hi, I'm Betrayee McBetrayerson, but you can call me Backstabber for short! Want to team up for no reason and definitely turn your back on me often? Great! Let's go. You First. \n\n\nAnd how he brings the baby or leaves the baby in super dangerous highly vulnerable places and situations... knowing there are powerful sinister forces looking hard for 'em. Maybe he didn't have a choice at the start, but freakin weeks later.. idiocy.",
"Undone is awesome. I want season 2.",
"They were good movies. They were meant to be space opera with broad themes and drama. But the characters were developed and interesting, sympathetic; cast had chemistry and charisma. The story made sense and had interesting themes. The world was imaginative and well realized. The special effects were cutting edge and blew everyone's minds. The music was amazing. And it's a fun adventure.",
"Adult/child.",
"It's actually gotten worse since season 1.",
"How far of a society have we come. We judge others based on Twitter posts. We judge people on their color. We are the true evil. This show is a testament to the filth that mankind has become in current day. Do we even care about others anymore? This show is an abomination on us all. It is so fitting that the captain left the man to die and then ridiculed him to a board at Starfleet. How fitting.",
"My other favourite was the engineer.",
"I would never say that Lower Decks is an acceptable substitute for classic trek. But it's the closest the franchise has been to actual Star Trek since Enterprise. Which admittedly isn't saying much.",
"You mean Tig? She was awesome, for similar reasons. Criminally underutilized =/",
"See but the point was these were rare and huge moral struggles they faced. Picard ultimately decided it was wrong to use Hugh against the Borg. Sisko knew he had to play the villain to ultimately stop more bloodshed in the Neutral Zone. In new trek it's like every episode they wake up and say what's some havock we can wreak today. And this comes from someone who's favorite DS9 episode is In The Pale Moonlight. It may just be a difference in the quality of writing, but there's a huge difference.\n\nBut what I'm really mad about is what they did to my Klingons.",
"? Archer isn't in the video I watched. Did I watch the wrong one?",
"Try s1e13, “Dear Doctor.”",
"Your claim wasn't that it wasn't \"authentic\" but that they was \"no connection\", a much stronger and hyperbolic statement which it appears you didn't actually mean.",
"This. Plus, Janeway was literally the worst Captain ever. Which explains why Starfleet promoted her to Admiral.",
"The Federation being \"corrupt\" is certainly part of the problem with Picard. (And yes, we've seen rogue elements inside the Federation before undermining it -- and almost always they are exposed and eliminated once discovered. In Picard, it's \"institutional\".)\n\nBut Picard ignored certain *established factual elements*, such as a post-scarcity Earth, and Picard in particular *did not behave like his past self.* It's hard to argue that Picard 's character was corrupted by the Federation when he was supposed to be the character following a moral compass that was in contrast to the corrupted Federation.\n\nYou can rationalize how these things could have come to pass, but 1. If you have to do that, then the story failed at setting the scene in the first place, and 2. These seem to be things a lot of people *don't like* and consider antithetical to what they liked about in the previous shows.",
"And if Star Trek was a show set in modern day New York about the intrepid employees of a multinational pharmaceutical company that would be fair enough.",
"I'm not attacking Burnham on that point, just the idea that young Kirk was some rulebreaker. The evidence suggests he wasn't until after he was Captain.\n\nAs for Burnham, I don't mind her breaking rules; I mind that she's a Mary Sue who is always right (even when she's wrong!) and that the entire show revolves around her.",
"https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/645/713/888.jpg",
"Why are you re-framing the argument as \"young Kirk\"?\n\nThe show revolves around her because she's the lead. You know, like every other series.\n\nThere's always an extra burden for Burnham. She can't be \"too good\" or she's a Mary Sue (even though Picard has a reality altering frenemy and Sisko is half god), she can't be too rebellious or she's somehow going against \"Gene's vision\" (even though again, Kirk stole the Enterprise and TNG had a whole movie about insurrection called Insurrection). Even if that rebelliousness is greatly exaggerated, and is in fact a common trait for Starfleet captains/leads. And the fact that learning from her mistakes is the whole point of her first arc, which seems pretty Star Trek to me.\n\nThese feel like second-hand arguments from people that don't even watch the show.",
"That is the one.",
"> Rosa Salazar\n\nShe's in the IMDB top 500, so she sure is \"someone\", as it was suggested it very well could've been bad direction. Thanks for sharing her name.",
"They're also canon, just like that stupid cartoon. \n\nSo this abomination *is* what the writers want NuTrek to be.",
"The meta-humor of mocking the [voice actors on Family Guy has always been fun.](https://youtu.be/HmojQu4wRJM?t=7)",
"They both started to nose dive in the late 90's/early 2000s with Enterprise and prequel trilogy.\n\nThey just finally finished crashing and burning these past few years with the sequel trilogy and NuTrek.",
"Gotta love the people saying, \"Yeah but this is a comedy skit show\"... a what? Comedy? Sure there were funny tidbits, but, never like this. This is petty drivel, at best.",
"Stop it",
"Ahem, freedom fighters.",
"> Picard was constantly at a loss with Lwaxana, with children, with women, heck with people in general.\n\nThe episode \"Rascals\" is a fantastic exploration of Picards interaction with children when he's changed into one due to a transporter accident along with Ro Laren, Keiko, and Guinan. At one point their sequestered into a room with all of the real enterprise children and have to figure out how to overcome armed Farenghi.\n\nST:TNG - Season 6 Episode 7",
"We all are. The difference is whether or not we learn from them and change.",
"You should perhaps read the DSM V for the [symptoms of narcissism](https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662).",
"So many narcissists coming out of the closet to defend fellow narcissists. \n\nYou should maybe read the actual [symptoms of narcissism](https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662).",
"It's not Discovery, it's Short Treks; quasi canon short stories of varying genres, some of them comedy, like the H John Benjamin ep. Hilarious because his character is an incompetent boob who basically destroys the ship because of his ego.",
"\"Whilst\"",
"Lol, found the Star Wars fanboy.",
"They're trying to be inclusive, not really \"woke\". While diversity is great, they do do it for the sake of it and wrote specific roles for it which is kind of annoying. The writing is absolutely horrible.",
"Cool thanks I’ll check it out!",
"> I think one of the biggest missteps of modern Star Trek is they also try to shoe horn in modern socio-economic problems into star trek.\n\nI would counter this, I think that Star Trek always shoe horned modern socio-economic problems into their show, it's a core premise. But they always had a positive example, showing a deep and great way to be. The whole point is that we, as humanity, could hopefully reach a point were doing the right thing, the humane thing, is the default and not the exception.\n\nIt wasn't a coincidence that Uhura, a black woman, was a Lt from the get go the 4th-5th highest ranking officer on all the ship, ranking over few white male protagonists. In the world of start trek that means nothing, but in the US at the time (and even now honestly) that was a huge statement by just being allowed.\n\nThe whole point is that we are shown what humanity should attain to be. And sometimes calling out what we are doing wrong by stating what is the right answer, is the most powerful sociology-economic statement you could make.\n\nAnd that's the contrast. In TNG we see a world were people don't see those working under them as tools to be used and disposed if not working, but people to invest in and help to achieve their greatest potential. I can tell if you are in a great place to work or not if people have this attitude. And wouldn't it be nice if 90% of places had the highest up people taking Picard's enforcement of wisdom? Note that this was supposed to be a lighter and comedic episode, Picard's command forces the crew to have to deal with someone who is less than competent, leading to all sorts of funny hijinks. Barclay was supposed to be a stand-in for an average person, not an amazing one, not the best of what humanity has to give. It's funny to see the crew having to work over the ineptitude (or more specifically average aptitude) of the guy. And the message is beautiful its own way: Barclay has a lot of potential, but is limited by his own personal problems, fears, addictions, etc. Aren't we all like that? And isn't that a call to look to try to grow and move beyond those limitations? The episode they counter with is just a joke too, but it never goes beyond the joke.\n\n> You can explore those ideas by visiting planets that have those issues, then have the star fleet crew discuss it. But having those conflicts with the crew makes no sense.\n\nI would counter. One of the things I think that TNG did amazingly well is they found way to bring these issues in discussions with the crew. There's ways to put these problems on another scale, don't show us just what's wrong with the world, show us what it should be, what we should be discussing, what are the real problems and questions we have to answer still, and which are just people refusing to see why they are wrong.\n\nThe Orville does a better job of bringing these modern issues. Not as great a star trek, though they do tackle them more directly. Sadly in being this direct, it's also obvious how short they fall. The episode about two crew-members of a generally male only species having a female child, the metaphor was clearly inter-sex. The other crew would bring the previous history, but inter-sex is the only example that made sense, people that were born with a gender/sexual identity that didn't fit neatly into the existing standard categories of the culture.\n\nThe point is that there's a lot of space to explore.\n\nI think that Discovery could have modernized its story by bringing these issues. Star fleet has many species on its systems, and it's naturally that they would have different cultures. And I am not saying \"they meet an alien species that has a retrograde system, but the prime directive prevents them from interfering\", but a more \"they are allied with an alien species that has made different moral choices that are in conflict, but while it has its cons, it has its pros over the human take, and it does a bit better\". While TNG and DS9 explore this a bit with Klingon or Ferengi, they don't really cover how do you work when two different moral systems clash and conflict. Probably the best would be the human-vulcan conflicts between Kirk and Spock, but that was hammier, more superficial, and more about passion and feeling vs just logic, and how each has its space, not really an ethical dilemma. Certainly to see how the ethically advanced humanity of star trek tackles the problem more specifically would be fun. When Starfleet has decided on solution to the Trolley Problem, but another species decided on the opposite, and both are horrified by the logic. And not a \"they are there and it's different\" as in these are part of Starfleet and therefore our own ethics too.\n\nAnd I agree that the monster-of-the-day formula is limited, but I think that even the original series was able to balance this.",
"But those studios have invested in the IP. They bought Star Wars to drape the Star Wars universe in whatever bullshit returns their investment.",
"Yeah, the point is to show humanity working together to overcome challenges. It gives viewers hope for the future.",
"People are obsessed with therapy right now",
"I would argue that Barclay was very much meant to be comedic relief, how an average, non-spectacular person would look compared to the other very competent and stellar crew of the Enterprise.\n\nThe whole point why this episode is just so bad, is because an officer calling another high ranking member of the fleet \"he was just an idiot\" is declaring an idiot to everyone that helped and passed this person along. A better understanding would be done for it. The whole point is that Starfleet considers the moral framework of their members very important. There's no way Larkin would have been that successful without revealing how amoral and utilitarian he was. There's no way he would have gotten such high ranks that way. The whole reason why Picard decides to force his crew to take a risk on Barclay, is that Picard trusts on Barclay's sources recommending him enough to make it to the Enterprise. He acknowledges that the other ship might have done this to get rid of him, but trusts that the Academy would not reward him. In some ways we are left to wonder if Barclay had a drop when joining the Enterprise, maybe access to the holodeck triggered his escapism and prevented him from improving. Maybe he was overwhelmed at the level that Enterprise ran. In any case, it made sense.\n\nHere, with Larkin, the fact he was Lt makes you wonder what the hell is wrong with Starfleet, and why isn't it doing atrocities all the time.\n\nAnd that's the thing. You could have had this episode in a multitude of ways. In other series he would be a guest scientist not from starfleet. It would have been as simple as that. Even then the captain would have spoken better. Kirk would have gone on a monologue of how progress must always be pushed, but never at the cost of lives. TNG would have gone deeper into the question of costs, and the limited view of sacrificing everything for now would be a problem.\n\nAnd really, if we wanted, we could have had more depth. Maybe instead have this character be dealing with serious trauma due to some event, which has caused them this bout of desperation for insane ideas like \"faster reproducing tribbles\". The problem is how to handle in a humane manner a literal mad scientist. It becomes an interesting question, where you can have most of the insanity (including the ending situation). Or we could have made it a scientist from the planet, where they don't have food synthesizers, and are trying to get a solution, but can't understand they just need to wait for more synthesizers being shipped into the planet, and as they keep pushing on their inability to understand and things go south really badly. In all the scenarios the episode would go similar to how it goes, with some different exposition, but the plot stays more or less the same. But Lucero would have more empathy, and a deeper insight. And the episode would have a more interesting story and character, even if it's mostly a light joke.",
"While I think it's a shock because this hasn't been the case in the past for Star Trek, major tone variation is the norm for many characters in comics, and I think they're richer for it.\n\nWolverine can be a gruff by soft-hearted space-faring adventurer, or he can be a violent, transient drifter in a small Alaskan town because the character's publishers allow many, many people to write many, many stories.\n\nI think this clip looks terrible, but I don't mind if a world includes terrible things if it means the rights holders are taking chances in what gets made.",
"Yeah.. no. You keep your \"Back in my day\" opinion. I really don't give a single fuck about the part of the fan base bitching about canon or how new trek is dog shit. Seriously fuck the whole lot of you. It's better without you",
"Lol too long didn't read ¯\\\\\\_(ツ)\\_/¯",
"All of the Old Republic cinematics are great, they do have the advantage of only having to hint at stories and characters instead of develop them but they still feel like more care and effort went into them than any other Star Wars property.\n\nIt's unfortunate that the game that goes along with these cinematics looks and plays like WoW. You could put this video and the in engine fight back to back and you'd have whiplash from how jarringly different the products are.",
"I genuinely enjoyed his first film. I was never into Star Trek so if fans were to say 'this isn't Star Trek' I can't disagree or say they shouldn't be disappointed/upset, but as a science fiction action adventure movie, the first one is actually quite good.\n\nThe story isn't going to win an award but the ensemble cast do great, the action is entertaining and it has a great pace to it that keeps you invested throughout.\n\nNow the TV show on the other hand, even I couldn't stomach that. It's like taking the glossy exterior of the Star Trek film with action and set pieces and then throwing in the worst of serial TV you can imagine.",
"I remember the RLM review pointed this out in the Picard series. I'm not a ST fan so forgive me for not knowing their names but he meets up with one of his old crew members who appears to be living in a very rundown shack doing it tough and she berates him for his wealthy lifestyle and vineyard.\n\nIn a society that can create any substance out of nothing. How exactly is she poor? Didn't Picard literally say they had solved poverty in one of the films? Might as well bring racism back to.",
"This is some pretty cringey shit",
"Jesus tap-dancing Christ. It's not like TNG? GOOD. The show ended! You can watch it right now if you want! It's not like how you remember TNG? OF COURSE IT ISN'T! TNG isn't even like TNG because they re-rendered some effects. It isn't about a utopian society? That's fine, because everyone knows you get the best entertainment mining the same premise for decades. It's infuriating listening to people endlessly complain that something isn't like something they enjoyed in the past as if it needs to more closely mirror the thing in the past. I've seen a lot of Orville recommendations here and if you want to watch TNG you can still watch it. It's pretty easy. So it boils down to the writers for the new thing are doing a different more cynical thing than the old thing but that's always the case. You know what a nearly six decade old franchise turning out the same thing over and over is? Uninteresting.",
"> You can rationalize how these things could have come to pass, but 1. If you have to do that, then the story failed at setting the scene in the first place, and 2. These seem to be things a lot of people don't like and consider antithetical to what they liked about in the previous shows.\n\nSee, that's exactly what I thought of Voyager back then, too.",
"k ¯\\\\\\_(ツ)\\_/¯\n\n\nYoure kinda irrelevant so.... You don't matter here.",
"It's hard to believe that you \"don't give a single fuck\" when you immediately get hostile and sperg out when you learn people don't like your favorite TV show.\n\nThat actually seems like you give an unhealthy amount of fucks, likely born of insecurity. Once you grow up you'll learn that other people don't have to like the same things you like. Other people's opinions on something have no bearing on your enjoyment of that thing unless you let them. Like you are right now.",
"They’re a lot of fun. This one is about a new captain dealing with a mad scientist crew member who breeds Tribbles that reproduce even faster than their normal speed. There’s one about a Federation ship that has become self aware after a thousand years adrift, one about Harry Mudd trying to negotiate his way away from a Tellarite bounty hunter, one about Spock and Number One stuck in an elevator, and even a Looney Tunes-esque cartoon about a bug and a repair robot fighting in the original Enterprise.",
"Where can I watch it?",
"Not happening until the droolers stop paying to watch such drivel.",
"It just intrigues me that from what I've noticed, Star Wars is at its most popular when it feels grounded.\n\nLike, take the Mandolorian, for example. Nobody really cares about Jedi anymore, we've seen nine movies about them, and they get more fantastical every time their story gets a sequel.\n\nBut most of the characters in Mando feel like they actually *live* in Star Wars. There's a depth in the world-building that actually gives you a glimpse into how people live. It feels like the franchise is evolving into a genre of science fiction.\n\nOn the topic of whiplash, yeah, I'm not a fan of the game lol.",
"> Why are you re-framing the argument as \"young Kirk\"?\n\nI'm not. Per the post that started this subthread:\n\n> The new show takes humans as they are now, **assumes Starfleet has no personality tests before allowing them to join,**\n\nHence, \"young Kirk\".\n\n> The show revolves around her because she's the lead. You know, like every other series.\n\nExcept in every other Trek series there was an ensemble cast, and the \"lead\" if anyone was the Captain. But TNG was not \"Picard's Story\", Voyager was not \"Janeway's Story\", etc. But Discovery is first-and-foremost \"Burnham's Story\" and she wasn't even Captain for most of it. \n\nOf course, you can have a series where the focus isn't on the Captain -- see Lower Decks -- but again Beckett may get top billing but she's not the lead; it's an ensemble story about all of them.\n\n> These feel like second-hand arguments from people that don't even watch the show.\n\nYou should confine your arguments to the facts and logic at hand, and not on what they \"feel\" like to you.",
"Im so happy you were able to show everyone how much you care :)",
"> major tone variation is the norm for many characters in comics, and I think they're richer for it.\n\nThis could be true in principle. If the chage is done to explore new ideas. \n\nIn modern Start Trek, the change is towards generic scifi that is easy and quick to make. Generic team banter, generic themes and approaches, generic visuals. Variation is just arbitrary. No consistent world building.",
"It’s on Paramount Plus, if you have access. If not, there’s always the Orion method, wink wink.",
"It seems like the real problem then is not the production of things that are generic but the failure to produce things that aren't.",
"And anyone with a brain would know this thread has zero relevancy to what I said above. Thank you for showing everyone what a dense idiot you are.",
"Everyone who's been following seems to agree with me about the level of care you do, in fact, have. \n\nThanks for helping to keep illustrate that!",
"Yes, everyone following is agreeing with you. Since that is so true…\n\nWould you please like to pull those comments up? I’d love to see how far your delusions have manifested.\n\nThanks for showing what mental illness looks like.",
"I think generic is usually the goal from the business perspective. Generic means it's safe and easy to understand. It can have larger audience.",
">Except in every other Trek series there was an ensemble cast, and the \"lead\" if anyone was the Captain. But TNG was not \"Picard's Story\", Voyager was not \"Janeway's Story\", etc. But Discovery is first-and-foremost \"Burnham's Story\" and she wasn't even Captain for most of it.\n\nBull. Shit. Every show begins and ends with the lead/Captain. Sisko sacrifices himself and is pulled out of time to be with the Phophets. Picard solves the temporal paradox saving humanity and passing Q's challenge for now, Janeway changes history to get Voyager home sooner. If it isn't Trip and T'pol's relationship issues it's Archer that has to do some thing. Everything ultimately revolves around Kirk in ToS. Kirk beats Khan, Kirk beats Kruge, Kirk beats Khan again.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>Of course, you can have a series where the focus isn't on the Captain -- see Lower Decks -- but again Beckett may get top billing but she's not the lead; it's an ensemble story about all of them.\n\nYour \"good\" example is a show where the lead is the hyper-competent, actually and constantly rule-breaking, should be court-martialed Captains daughter that virtually every character can be defined by their relationship to? See what I mean about these criticism not making any sense?\n\nWhat's also annoying is these arguments ignore what's actually happened in the show to make these bad faith arguments. Tilly's arc alone debunks these arguments.",
"Exactly.\n\nThe author of this video monopolizes on hating on the new shows and has no qualms about doing it in a very biased way. The new shows certainly have their flaws, but this supposed comparison video is completely disingenuous and banking on people being unfamiliar with the context or being just as biased as the author.",
"The person you’re responding to is engaging in conversation formation bias. They don’t like the new shows so they’re acting like the comparison video is being genuine. The new shows certainly have their flaws but the linked video is being entirely misleading. They’re comparing something specifically meant to be a comedy against something meant to be serious. The actual series like DIS and PIC are not comedies and seriously address the subject matter. If you see anyone call Discovery STD then there is a good chance they aren’t discussing the new shows in good faith.",
"That’s some serious co formation bias. Just because you don’t like the new shows doesn’t mean you have to pretend the linked video is an accurate comparison.",
"The male actor in the new trek clips is H Jon Benjamin, known for (amongst other things) voicing the title character in the show \"Archer\".",
"Haven't watched it, but based off what I heard, isn't she basically Mary Sue made official?",
"Makes sense. In a Star Trek subreddit, Archer is Captain Archer.",
"Saying Star Wars is dead while saying Marvel is good is worth a good laugh",
"I'll admit the comment threw me as well before I saw the video.",
"Neither of those examples are anything like the first. You really underscored OP's point though: Humor and cringe is one thing. Toxic sentiment dressed up as comedy is another, and you won't find that in old trek.",
"Thanks I hate it",
"I said mostly good. \n\nMarvel did a far superior job across their movies than any of the Star Wars since the originals. I'm not even that much into comics, but in terms of quality of movies they do waaaaaaaay better of a job than the suck fest that is the Star Wars prequels or the newer Disney crap chutes. Anyone arguing different is a fanboy or probably considers the Fast & Furious franchise the pinnacle of quality filmmaking.",
"i honestly only started watching Picard after I say RLM rip apart the first few episodes\n\nI wonder what percentage viewers only watch for the schadenfreude",
"Agree to disagree.",
"Oh yeah I meant no disrespect to anyone working on Lower Decks, it's pretty fantastic.\n\nMy disrespect was pointed directly at the people in charge of the Star Trek franchise.",
"Studios seem to think that modern audiences are too dumb for something like TNG, so hence we get another Marvel/Star Wars wannabe. Shame.",
"I know there isn't a law... but there really should be. I would hope if we ever do enter a world with that sort of realistic tech, we need those sort of rules to protect peoples privacy. Taking someone's image and putting into a hyper realistic toy seems as gross as taking up-skirts or putting hidden cameras in dressing rooms... and we have laws against those things. \n\nI'm not saying Barkley is evil, but lets be real, he needed serious therapy for years to get past that behavior. That's not a little thing at all.",
"We have laws against invading privacy. But that's not what I asked about. Let's say someone made such a hologram using absolutely nothing but publicly available images, say a person's instagram or whatever. That's no invasion of privacy. \n\nI think in TNG, the holodeck was just the in-universe version of escapist fantasy that at the time was fiction, movies, primitive gaming etc.., Luckily Barclay did get serious therapy for years.",
"I never said anything about privacy. I'm simply saying that when that technology is invented, we need new laws to deal with it's implications. I have no idea what affect such behavior would have on a human being, but using the near perfect likeness of another human being would have serious implications that create a whole new category of law and criminality that we haven't come to yet. Someone could make a perfect likeness of you and then take images that would defy the ability of even a trained analyst to debunk. The implications of that world are terrifying.\n\nThis isn't about privacy, it's way beyond that.",
"You can simply look above for confirmation. :)\n\nHave a nice day showing everyone you still care.",
"Nothing there and no one chiming in agreeing.\n\nYou’re delusional, got it.",
"My upvotes say otherwise.\n\nBut again, thanks for continuing to show how much you in fact, care. Warms the cockles.",
"Lmao you have like 2 upvotes, as do I. \n\nHilarious.",
"But I have more, hence more people agree with me :)\n\n\nI do think it's adorable you're little plink of a downvote after each time I comment though.\n\nI mean seriously! Look at all that care!",
"Still doesn’t account for “everyone” in this thread. Your point is moot. Thanks, try again.\n\nLol, I’m not downvoting you. Looks like everyone disagrees with you.",
">Still doesn’t account for “everyone” in this thread.\n\nSure it does :)\n\n>Lol, I’m not downvoting you.\n\nLOL yeah, it's the only person who's still following the thread three days later. *uh huh* bwahahah\n\nI love your little desperate plink of downvotes. You really are trying hard. It's cute and adorable by the way.\n\nShows just how much you care!",
"Nope, sorry, everyone disagrees with you. Better hold on to those 2 upvotes you had since thats all ya get.",
"Looks like you're still incorrect.\n\nBut im more happy about you participating and proving you care :)",
"Aw, damn, you seem to have broken over the fact everyone agrees with me. \n\nNope, nothings changed, star trek hasn't moved up or down my care level.\n\nAnother swing and a miss from the crazy man himself, lokito.",
"If only that were true! \n\nHey man, I'm still in awe that after 4 days, you still care so much.\n\nIt's almost like you're my pet now.",
"the show that ended the federation?",
"Yikes, it seems like you're further slipping away from reality; and it is true.\n\nThanks for trying so hard, however, my care-level has not gone up or down. \n\nWhats funny is I'm getting more upvotes the more you reply.\n\nSeems like you're getting a small case of Stockholm syndrome, loco.",
"As for the upvotes I pissed off some fanbois yesterday. They mad. Very mad. lol\n\nUpside is now they get to see you dancing for me after all this time which is even better. I have an audience to show you off for now!\n\nMakes my day to see you caring so much and everyone else getting to see you care so much too!",
"No one that you think that is watching, is watching. \n\nNo one else feels that way since they can read. I'm just bs'ing in between work and responding to you. No feelings, especially for or against the show. \n\nI'm glad I can make your day, but just a reminder... There are many things I care about but star trek isn't one of them. That's all that this has been about. I'm more invested into this convo than star traks.",
">There are many things I care about but star trek isn't one of them.\n\nWell.... four days later you're still here. So yeah. You care.\n\nThanks for continuing to show you care :)",
"Yup and not talking about the show or how much I care about it, lol.\n\nThe concept of people being neutral and commenting subject can be hard to understand. Take all the time you need to process and accept that.\n\nThanks for reaching and trying. One love, jobin.",
"I love how you're so confused about your own level of care, you need to continuously edit your comments.\n\nPoor guy!",
"You've edit your comments as well, no worries I can point things out too. \n\nSilly goose.",
"Nope, I dont. Not as continuously as you, poor thing. \n\nBut I'm happy you're still here, caring your heart out! :)",
"No need to worry about me. Haha this is the best.\n\nYou’re like a sociopath that believes his own delusions and lies. Thanks for showing everyone what depravity looks like. The best part? \n\nYou could help yourself and were the only person to chime in. Now you’ve made yourself a cruel joke that we can all point and laugh at.\n\nWe all thank you for that.",
"\"Everyone?\" You've already been forgotten it seems. Poor thing.\n\nNow it's only you and I, and we both know by this point you're mine now. \n\n:)\n\nOr else you can finally show you don't care anymore by leaving. \n\nEither way, my points been made. You care. A LOT\n\nSee ya or won't see ya. (My guess is you still have some care left in you though)\n\nlmao lmao",
"No, instead I'm just using your terminology that you've used numerous times. It is you that has forgotten. You were so consumed by this, you don't even remember what you've said.... or who you are anymore. It's sad really, you're like an empty shell of what you once were and you parents were once proud of. \n\nThey watch. Laugh at you and ask, why can't he grasp what he was told from the beginning? Why does he seemingly have no rationale or logic behind what he says? He keeps saying the other guy cares...when he clearly doesn't.\n\nMy bet... is he'll continue because he doesn't grasp language the way someone would with a fully-functioning brain. Let the experiment continue. Experiment, Lokito, cognitive dissonance 142.",
"Your projection is noted! \n\nLooks like I was right about you having some care left to give :)\n\n>Let the experiment continue. Experiment, Lokito, cognitive dissonance 142.\n\nI can do this for months :) Can you? Guess we'll find out. \n\nExperiment, GradientPerception, caring 483. lmao",
"The care as I’ve told you is free to give everywhere, except star trek. \n\nConsidering, I don’t care about the show and this is perfect meme content for my page, yeah / I can do this for as long as you go. \n\nPatient has now began to adopt the things I’m saying because of personal dissociation with ones personal being and person. \n\nLokito has…gone full loco. On the next episode of Dragon Ball Z! Will he escape his own delusions or will he be trapped eternally in his mind?",
"> I can do this for as long as you go. \n\nSweet! Lets do a test then.\n\nReply. Do as I command.",
"The experiment began awhile ago, test subject is now beginning his own experiment in what seems like an attempt to have control of the situation. Ironic since he’s lost control of his mind quite sometime ago. \n\nExperiment lokito has gone full loco. \n\nNext experiment, observe his reply and delusions further.",
"My subject replied on command.\n\nStill showing he cares.\n\nExcellent. \n\nDo it again.",
"Patient Lokito continues down the rabbit hole of no return. Is he suffering from loneliness? Is this why he refuses to accept what he's been told. Is it why he's now conducting his own experiment after being told he was the subject of one that started days before his began?\n\nThe true sign of insanity, stuck in repetition... a man becoming succumbed to his own madness ...thinking he's the one in the control but instead is the patient... Shutter Island comes to mind. Lokito is Teddy Daniels.\n\nThere is no question about it.",
"Oh dear, you're getting mad enough to plink away now at the downvotes.\n\nIs that helping you *care*, my test subject?\n\nLet me know in your next reply.\n\n>The true sign of insanity, stuck in repetition... a man becoming succumbed to his own madness ...thinking he's the one in the control but instead is the patient... Shutter Island comes to mind. Lokito is Teddy Daniels.\n\nMy guess is you'll finally give up come monday. I really can do this for years. :)",
"Patient is mumbling in the corner of facility. Playing with what looks like to be his scrotum. I cannot make make out what he's saying as his head lays in-between his legs.",
"I love these threads because you test subjects always end up projecting everything thats happening to you. \n\nDo go on. \n\nIs this helping with your *care*?\n\nplink plink!",
"It sounds like you haven't watched Orville then, because there's nothing \"edgeboi\" about it.",
"Patient further continues his dialogue, he keeps repeating a word…plink? Perhaps something close to his heart.",
"New Trek is the best",
"You’re boring",
"There's another plink!\n\nShows he cares.\n\nLets see if the test subject can last for the rest of the day, and then continue again over the weekend and or on monday!",
"Further and further he goes, when will he stop? Nobody knows. His lexicon has been reduced to a single word. \n\nPlink. Plink. Plink. \n\nHe has spread his own fecal matter across his face in an attempt to hide. Even though all he says is plink, he seems very focused at his task.",
"Another plink to show his care!\n\nContinue the experiment!",
"The only thing that seems to matter to him is “plink”. Patient can no longer effectively communicate or take care of himself. He has deteriorated quicker than most.",
"Another plink!\n\nLook how much he cares! Full steam ahead, we taking this guy for a 6 month ride :)",
"Nothing he “says” is legible. He’s continues to drool and mumble. He’s reduced to nothing.",
"No plink? Aww, my subject forgot!\n\nOh well. Good thing he's still here to let me know he cares though!",
"Still incomprehensible. Further he goes into the darkness. No one can discern anything he mutters.",
"Will you be caring over the weekend? Or are you going to be going radio silent by monday?",
"More incoherent gibberish. He’s blowing bubbles out of his mouth and nostrils.",
"I think chances are good you'll still be here this monday.\n\nGood. Lets see how long we have you for :)\n\nAnd to think. If you actually didn't care, you never would have made that one comment in the first place.",
"More dribble. Patient is stagnant.",
"I wonder how long you'll last. \n\nLMAO",
"He laughs out loud and sodomizes himself.",
"You closet cases have the oddest fantasies.",
"More grumbling",
"Yes, you are! But... you're *ALSO* still showing how much you care.\n\nMakes me happy :)",
"He continues his babbling.",
"Oh look, he found the plink button again!\n\nEDIT: looks like he didn't make it through the weekend after all.\n\nOh well.",
"Idk DS9 wasn’t the most “utopian” show ever.",
">You know what a nearly six decade old franchise turning out the same thing over and over is? Uninteresting.\n\nIt’s also what very nearly killed the franchise back in the early 2000’s. After Nemesis and Enterprise, people just got bored of the same ol’ shit just with a new coat of paint. Times change and the entertainment industry has to change with it or big franchises like Star Trek will just die off and anybody that actually cares about and wants to see this franchise last another 60 years would recognize that and not constantly try to compare New Trek to Old Trek. It’s not the same, never will be, but that doesn’t in any way mean it’s bad.",
"What is killing Star Trek 1, everything woke, one sided situations based on Hollywood’s writers political views lame shows and just bad stories. The search for the human condition is gone and that is sad"
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"I wish I could see how many times I've watched a video on YouTube cause this one is up there. So so good.",
"We really need more live Tool concert videos while these guys are still in their prime.",
"I missed so much live concerts! I want two years of my live back!",
"2 drummers videos I personally never skip: Danny Carey and Jojo Mayer.",
"I had no idea Paul giamatti was in Tool",
"In my top 3 for drummers. Saw Tool back in 2002.",
"I've watched it so many times that it's always in my recommended videos list.",
"I feel like these guys have been in their primes for like 25 years.",
"Almost forgot to watch this today. Thanks!",
"lol they do keep getting better especially Danny",
"Thanks to you for watching!",
"I had tickets for Tool in 2020 but then everything got cancelled.",
"Shout-out to anyone who had tickets to the tool show in Eugene OR 😭",
"Managed to snag two tickets for it! Always wanted to see them live and just randomly saw an ad for the show and immediately grabbed them. Not great seats but its in the same building so I'm fucking hyped",
"Same, love pneuma pneuma",
"I broke my tool cherry late, didn't see them until 2007. That show blew my mind though, I had never really been to real concerts and decided to go to Bonnaroo. Saw Kings of Leon, The Roots, and Tool all in a row the first full day and that shit was wild lol",
"I'm not sure you know what Paul Giamatti looks like",
"i counted 3 mistakes, but then the next friggen bar he is right back on it \\* like the hat ride being off time in the first set) \n\nhe is the best drummer in the world right now for sure",
"maynard is waaaay past his prime , the band might not be",
"broooo go check out sugar foot, he will kick you in the balls too, and KJ sakka",
"The fuck are you talking about?",
"So, some years ago, I was exclusively listening to Tool and didn't realize the whole rich genre that was alternative progressive metal.\nSince some people in this thread might be in that same place, I picked some songs that I think the average Tool fan might enjoy so that hopefully more people in this thread can dive into this amazing genre.\n\nKarnivool - [C.O.T.E.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUmARJ0o6Hw), [Change](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbykYkIhoRk)\n\nWheel - [Movement](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz4OJ8xKRLE), [Wheel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwzkhM0SRQ8) (these guys *very* similar to Tool imo)\n\nVulkan - [The Visual Hex](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmXGxP8kxMk), [Spökskepp](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc_bZdFUv1E)\n\nRishloo - [Landmines](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMle586mIfc), [Just a Ride](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuqUBALfsL4)\n\nThe Ocean - [Let Them Believe](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_3T9TI8bw)\n\nTesseract - [Singularity](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBcHWTSlRC4)\n\nAlso, finally, the drummer that finally toppled Danny Carey as my favorite drummer: Blake Richardson.\nWarning: this song has growling vocals, so if you don't like that sort of thing you won't like the song, but the drumming here is just so superb, I can't not post it in a Danny Carey thread.\n\nBetween the Buried and Me - [Extremophile Elite](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM8WjgRA6o8)\n\nIf you like Tool, I would really suggest that you check some of these bands out.\nThey are all fantastic and unique in their own way.\nAlso check out /r/progmetal for more of this kind of music - it's a really friendly community, and you would be surprised at how much variety gets posted there.",
"I dunno dude, I saw them during the last tour and it was as good or better than when I saw them during the Lateralus tour.",
"Right?\n\nWe need some live stuff for posterity.",
"Wow. I've never watched a video like this, but he is fucking amazing.",
"I love Vic Firths channel and these videos of their drummers",
"sugar foot is funny to watch lol but great drummer. I just have to watch all Carter Beauford videos",
"Danny Carey is 60.",
"His vocal ability has objectively been slipping since their Lateralus tour. Album quality vocals are still just as good as they ever were though.\n\nHis range has dropped, you can easily hear the strain when he goes higher, and he's even had to change some notes or drop an octave while touring, most likely to keep his vocal chords in decent condition for subsequent shows.\n\nHe's also removed most, if not all, of the \"vocal scratch\" from his yells/screams when performing live. Again, this might be because his vocal chords just can't handle what they used to be able to. He can probably still produce that grungy scream he used to, but not night after night anymore. This is just a part of getting older for most people.\n\nGo check out some live recordings from their Opiate and Aenima days and compare to their 10,000 Days or Fear Inoculum tour. It's night and day. \n\nThis is just basic objective observation. Nothing against him or the band at all, they are by far my favorite.",
"sure tony fantano",
"I don't think you can say \"off time\" with Tool.",
"Can’t fucking wait to see them in April",
"Very impressive.",
"Just saved this comment. Thanks friend!",
"Also his energy on Fear Inoculum is so tame.\n\nNot one single scream or burst of power in his lines. I miss the explosiveness.",
"Danny Carey makes me convinced that aliens are real. It shouldn't be possible to be an octopus and a human at the same time - yet here we are.",
"The live show compilation from 2016 is another one! The Led Zeppelin cover is pure magic to start it out.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/WFHMyX1PA4M",
"I swear he closes his eyes when the strobe lights are on, I can never tell. Such a freak of talent. Loved seeing them when they were in Sydney last.",
"Well heres goes 1,5 hours of my life.",
"Can't be angry at the world forever.",
"Like the rest of body the voice also deteriorates with age. But I suggest a listen to the latest songs from Puscifer or A Perfect Circle, he still got it. \n\nHe seems to have evolved from the aggressiveness and anger, which I only feel is natural.",
"IMO [Lacking](https://youtu.be/z976nnltTec) is the \"introduce people to Wheel song\". The whole song is incredible.",
"1,5 marvellous hours!",
"This breakdown video gave me a whole new appreciation of this track: https://youtu.be/8lYueg-s_7g",
"Honestly made me chuckle, what a weird insult hahaha",
"Wheel is awesome\n\nFor the ocean I only listen to the instrumental versions.",
"Yes, which makes it even more impressive.",
"Was at this Boston show, it was mindblowingly awesome.",
"His drumming is approaching 9000!",
"[Traverser](https://open.spotify.com/artist/2sKCk19bqtjReFGZkEY1v2?si=IOjYQYNQTvusvmTT-Z6Juw) was another band I stumbled across on Spotify that fit this vibe.",
"\\*Sad Trombone\\* (I appreciate you)",
"You realize how well thought out everything is",
"Speaking of Between the Buried and Me and great drummers, have you heard [\"Fix The Error\"](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2q93v_nHmSM) from their latest album?\n\nIt has a drum solo that's played by 4 drummers, playing back to back. It features Mike Portnoy of *Dream Theater*, Navene Koperweis formerly from *Animals as Leaders*, solo drummer Ken Schalk, and Blake Richardson. It's all over a great song but that drum solo is something special.",
"We are aware … 🥺",
"Props for recommending Themata era Karnivool.",
"Danny put more thought into the progression of this song than I've put into my entire life.",
"Fuck you man, I had shit to do today!",
"Reddit: Michael Jackson's drummer is ungodly.\n\nTOOL Fans: Hold my beer.",
"Score! Thanks a bunch. I don't do the death rattle thing. I have the full catalog of Opeth but only listen to about half of it because of the growling.",
"I gotta give a little shout out to Leprous, they transitioned from a pretty hard progmetal to more of an atmospheric prog metal with vocals somewhere in-between metal and opera singing.\n\nTheir last 2 albums are beautiful!",
"Saw them on the B stage at Lollapoolaza 1993, about 3 feet in front of the stage.",
"I feel like we're overdue for a new Perfect Circle album..",
"In my top 3? He IS my top 3!",
"yeay, got my ticket for a concert in march 2022 today. very thrilled to finally see them, could not go the last time they came to town back in 2006",
"Does Brooks sell live concert videos?",
"At least that's something. Until this video, there were zero official live Tool videos.",
"At least Tool is okay with fan bootlegs.",
"Oh hell yeah I love Colors II. It's a top 3 album from them for me.",
"I agree! I totally forgot about it, but you're right it's a really great intro to the band.",
"I know it's heresy to say, but imo it's a better album than Sound Awake. COTE is their best song.",
"I really fell in love with Tool when I was young because of Danny Carey; his shit was like nothing I'd ever heard. Nowadays I'm an Animals as Leaders fiend for kinda the same reason lol. Very different musically as bands though, obviously.",
"The live experience is pretty insane; saw them a couple times albeit many years ago. The visual effects and ambience were insane, and it wasn't just the mushrooms talking. I think.",
"I always thought his singing was secondary to the instruments, can't imagine someone falling in or out of love with Tool because of maynard's vocal range. That seems like a ridiculous concept to me haha. His musical arrangements and song writing (lyrics and otherwise) are his genius.",
"Props to Matt Garstka as well.",
"They're a local band for me and I was a fan before Sound Awake came out, so Themata holds a special place for me.",
"It's also mind-blowing when sober.\n\nShroomin' would be nice.",
"Goro from Mortal Combat",
"Why? Rossetti is a great vocalist.",
"Yea but \"Garth Brooks\" is actually like four different people.\n\nOh shit, so is Tool.",
"Well, his mother didn't just die. \nRemember that album, where she did?",
"The FBI just leaked some information on Buddy Rich, you should check it out",
"All Satanism aside, Danny and other performers are on a different level than most studio drummers. Being an artist involves writing music, not being a conduit. Nice retirement gig for a skilled musician though, that's for sure. Otherwise it's just labour.\n\nAlso, Hail Satan.",
"They do tours (precovid, maybe now?) showcasing some of their sponsored guys; watch them play, watch a lesson, meet and greet afterwards. So awesome. Drum camp!",
"Oh he's absolutely laser focused, seeing him live with a decent seat was mindblowing as a drummer. Dude doesn't stop, no cuts no bullshit, he's pushing the buttons too.",
"I've always wanted to see Tool in the most haunted place of the western hemisphere",
"you might be thinking of st helens. \n\n\nhttps://www.google.com/search?q=where+is+halloweentown+located&sxsrf=AOaemvI2PbQ0rPE2-YBIOsV2ASkkAlzc9Q%3A1635557548086&ei=rKB8YdrBBNHQ9APM-4\\_oBQ&oq=where+is+holloweentown&gs\\_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAEYADIECAAQCjIKCAAQsQMQgwEQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIICAAQFhAKEB4yBQgAEIYDOgcIABBHELADOgQIIxAnOgUIABCRAjoOCC4QgAQQsQMQxwEQowI6EQguEIAEELEDEIMBEMcBEKMCOggIABCxAxCDAToECAAQQzoLCAAQsQMQgwEQkQI6BQgAEIAEOgQILhBDOgsIABCABBCxAxCDAToLCC4QgAQQxwEQrwE6CAgAEIAEELEDOggILhCxAxCDAToTCAAQgAQQhwIQsQMQgwEQyQMQFDoHCAAQgAQQCjoKCAAQgAQQyQMQCjoFCC4QgAQ6DQgAELEDEIMBEMkDEApKBAhBGABQt9kBWIX5AWDYkAJoA3ABeAGAAccBiAHNFJIBBDIuMjCYAQCgAQHIAQjAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz",
"Your number will not define him. For he has transcended far beyond your simple numerology, pleb.",
"Hey be nice. The Juggalos didn't ruin their fantasy, they made a festival out of it.",
"I had no idea a homunculus could work a keyboard",
"Cuz he's 60? Gottem",
"You sound like Metallica turning down Les Claypool right now",
"No cause he plays like he has 4 arms",
"Your mother showed me how to use a keyboard after I railed her while your father watched.",
"Oh wow, that sounds awesome.",
"She turned me into a newt! ... I got better",
"I feel sad that I'm talking to someone that smells of Faygo",
"Oh lmao, I'm so stupid haha",
"I'm about 90% sure that they filmed 'The Aristocrats' during your endoscopy.",
"I do have a lot of cats in my colon",
"I was thinking more like [This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHeZS3mGDKY&ab_channel=TheAwfulGamerXZ)",
"Odd you decided to become one. /s",
"Oh really? I had no idea there was a dumb joke told the world over to a point they made a documentary about it. I assumed you meant the Disney movie with Zsa Zsa Gábor",
"The irony is that a dumb joke told the world over, happened on your endoscopy. You're world famous.",
"No no the Zsa Zsa Gabor movie happened in my colon.",
"Double feature!",
"All while they enjoy the percussion of Tool’s own Paul Giamatti",
"Ok, I see you've lost your mind, and I'm not into it (just kidding, that was kinda funny)",
"FIREEEE \n\nbest drummer in the world"
] | 113 |
videos
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Danny Carey "Pneuma" by Tool (Live Concert).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IklE5hq2um8
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/r/videos/comments/qi07ww/singing_happy_birthday_to_you_but_only_saying/
|
[
"This makes me seriously uncomfortable",
"They totally botched the timing",
"Its the legal way..",
"[It's been legal for several years now to sing it in its entirety.](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/happy-birthday-song-officially-recognized-in-public-domain/#:~:text=LOS%20ANGELES%20%2D%2D%20A%20judge,on%20the%20song%20for%20years.)",
"that's good shit.",
"I thought they were going to replace all the words with birthday like some sort of birthday Pokemon",
"This isn't as funny as you seem to think it is",
"Dumb. Unfunny.",
"You can just hum it if you forget the other words.",
"Birthday, birthday birth-day\n\nBirthday, birthday birth-day\n\nBirthday, birthday birth-dayYyyyy\n\nBirthday, birthday birth-day",
"Shit should I not have been laughing then",
"Somehow reminded me of welcome to nightvale",
"Okay.",
"There was one girl that was too fast on the Birthday each time",
"The birthdayee, was just as confused.",
"The timing was so off it was driving me nuts!",
"Birth Birth? Birthday!\n\nBirth Birth? Birthday!\n\nBirth Birth! BIRTHDAAAAYYYYYYY!!!",
"Ah fuck I laughed too! Cuff me boys",
"For how slow they are singing each “birthday”, they are singing them way too close together.",
"Birthday",
"Christ, that's one big four year old.",
"See you in prison, scum",
"Happy birthday still makes me more uncomfortable",
"Real cult shit",
"This should be in wtf",
"It could be argued that everything is exactly as funny as you think it is.",
"That wasn't funny. I need an adult.",
"This feels like a mix of [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JCfohAGRQ0) and [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzoA-xFU2j8), but I doubt any of the people involved actually know either thing.",
"Sigh… ***unzips pants***",
"And the notes.\n\nThe only thing they got correct was the lyrics",
"they went way too fast",
"The timing was wrong tho",
"That was uncomfortable, off time & just plain awkward! Loved it.",
"that’s cake",
"Is it just me? Or is this a little fucked up?",
"The way we see it, it's all for the greater good..",
"At the end, am I supposed to clap!?!",
"Well to be fair he didn't look to Happy, so this song was perfect.",
"Haha this was so dumb, I like it.",
"^you ^better ^watch ^out\n\nyou better watch out\n\nYOU BETTER WATCH OUT\n\n[***YOU BETTER WATCH OUT***](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDgc3LTiF9U&ab_channel=Landy)",
"Reminds me of this commercial: https://youtu.be/hbLUbhgySHs",
"aladeen?",
"https://youtu.be/tI0o4WwpXTY",
"Dude, why are so many comments about you telling people you're going to masturbate? Do you really think it's a worthwhile and meaningful contribution to the discourse? Or is just the concept of masturbation so funny to you, you feel it's a joke worth making over and over again?",
"Superb",
"Minimal work you have here.",
"But who wants to send in the group chat ‘ok, we’re doing this at 112 bpm, it’s in 3/4 F# major, every one of you mfers better learn how to keep time by Thursday evening’?\n\n(The answer is me, but life has taught me that this is generally perceived as unbelievably obnoxious and kind of weird).",
"Sigh… *unzips pants*",
"Maybe he’s a fly and can’t tell the difference",
"Feel like I'm being sung to by a pokemon",
"Stop.",
"*Puts back dong in pants then zips up pants*",
"That just makes it more realistic. Every time I've heard a group of people singing Happy Birthday, a good half of them are off-time.",
"The *singers* clap, *you* blow, and then you make a wish and extinguish the candles.",
"I remember reading an answer to the question of what’s the creepiest thing you can do to flip the awkwardness of a group of people singing happy birthday to you: pick one person in the group and make unbroken eye contact while whispering the words [to the song as they sing it].",
"It’s the aural equivalent of edging and a ruined orgasm.",
"I want you in my life",
"I don't care about the note but getting the timing right is critical to the gag.",
"i'm not sure what to do with my hands",
"Is he autistic and hates singing? If so that means that be a good alternative",
"Everybody:\n\n\"The greater gooood.\"",
"HE'S GONNA FIND OUT",
"Are you rushing, or are you dragging, or are you going to be ON MY FUCKING TIME?",
"Massive improvement.",
"I’m retarded, I accidentally paused the video and he’s just sitting there smiling and I was thinking wow they’re taking a long time to say birthday",
"https://youtu.be/w6n-oTNMWkI",
"This really cheered me up, thanks man…happy to make glib commentary on music and life any time",
"*Wakes up in a daze with birthday cake scribbled in pen on forhead.*",
"I requesting this the next time friends/family insists on singing happy birthday.",
"la sol, la sol, sol mi, mi do",
"it is your birthday"
] | 75 |
videos
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Singing "Happy Birthday To You," but only saying "Birthday"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtExVJlgEC0
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/r/videos/comments/qi1g74/pink_floyds_1973_album_the_dark_side_of_the_moon/
|
[
"First time getting stoned?",
"Lol! Must be.",
"You’re not high enough",
"Thanks for this ! I first heard of this about 25 years ago, but never actually watched it this way. I'm happy there's an easy way to watch.",
"Except it doesn’t really. Also, the producers said that wasn’t only not something they would do intentionally, it was impossible."
] | 5 |
videos
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Pink Floyd's 1973 album 'The Dark Side of the Moon' syncs rather uncannily to portions of 1939's 'The Wizard of Oz' - with especially pleasing portions linked in the comments
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knIroVvPZU4
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/r/videos/comments/qi1p53/duckman_talking_about_comedians_who_play_by_the/
|
[
"Ohh I fucking love Duckman! Felt like I was the only one watching it. This and The Critic. Both way ahead of it's time.",
"And that comfy 90's palette of muted, saturated colors...",
"For anyone not aware, Tim Curry is King Chicken. He plays a wide range of characters every season.",
"So when we cancel Duckman, do we have to cancel Jason Alexander too? I mean, he spoke the words, but probably didn't write them, so do we settle for a series of thorough beatings instead? I hate to ask but I'm a bit squiffy on the specifics of cancel culture regarding shit we said in the 90s.\n\nThis post is, of course, sarcastic.",
"If we have to cancel Jason Alexander, it's only fair we cancel Michael Richards. Not that either of them have done anything wrong ever. /serious",
"The Critic was awesome, with the squiggly outlines and shit lol.",
"Squiggly line? Are you thinking of Dr Katz?",
"See, I didn't know that was how it worked. What about Jerry Seinfeld and Julia Louis-Dreyfus? They worked with him too, and other than one being a Jew and the other a woman I don't think they have any oppression points.\n\nAnyway, hail Satan.\n\n/who cares anymore",
"nice",
"Ahh shit. Yep. It was the baldness that made me link them together. The Critic was still good too though!",
"I'm okay with people liking milquetoast comedians. SNL has insane ratings, after all.\n\nWhat I'm not okay with is people looking at fringe comedians and going \"that's wrong, you're hurting people with your words, you need to stop.\"",
"Can't believe somebody actually had to say that! \nYes laugh at whatever you want, but \"Tragedy will be exclusively joked about\"",
"You are constructing you view incorrectly IMO. It's not that offensive = insightful, sometimes offensive is just offensive and simplistic. But insightful comedy is usually offensive in some way. It's a rebuke of banning insight because it's offensive, rather than praising offensiveness for being insightful.",
"There is something so horribly Reddit about someone making this thread, with this clip, and making this comment to defend the shitty opinion the clip argues for lmaooooooo",
"If I had to choose between a world with funny comedians or a world of universal acceptance of people for who they are, I would pick acceptance every time.",
"Reddit from like 2013 maybe. What mainstream subs are you hanging around in where the majority sentiment mirrors this right now?? This post has 30 upvotes, when a post about george carlin making the exact **opposite** argument is in the quad digits simultaneously, on the same sub posted around the same time. We're all clearly beating around the Dave Chappelle bush here, but you couldn't let this dude just take his -4 upvotes and head out? You couldn't resist? I think accounts like yours are the most \"Reddit\" thing I see in 2021.",
"> My current belief on the matter is that it lies on if they are punching down or up\n\nThat's the classic Reddit cop out answer and I'm sick of it, because it's not true.\n\nThe people who chime on about not punching down are perfectly happy sniggering about flyover states, trailer trash, Rednecks or any other whatever topic. They have no issue punching down, they've just accepted that some topics we're not allowed to have humour about and brought the corporate justification \"That's punching down man!\"\n\nReddit has a whole sub dedicated to laughing at people who died of Covid, that's punching about as low as you can get, and it's celebrated just like everything else.",
"Hard disagree, a world without laughter is no world to live in",
"If you think that 'comedy bits aren't harmful' is a shitty opinion then I am sorry ma'am but you are being the redditor here. A default-sub redditor, even.",
"It doesn't have to be insightful. It can be crude and low-brow. Why not?",
"Dude, he said that.",
"Nietzsche broke this down over a century ago...if you can plausibly wrap yourself in the mantle of the oppressed, you can claim the moral high ground and use it to bludgeon your opponents. There's no branch of critical theory arguing that people in flyover states are marginalized, or if there is it has no institutional backing. Once people have a priori assumptions about which groups you can shit talk with impunity and which groups you can't, it's over in their eyes.",
"thank you lmao",
"I'm sure few people will read comments like mine, but I've mulled on this for a while, so here goes:\n\nFor a long time I've struggled to understand what it means for something to be funny. What exactly is laughter? Why do we do it? What actually makes us laugh? I don't really know. \n\nLaughter is so interesting. It's one of the most intellectually complex activities in the world. I can't think of any other living creature that genuinely laughs, (except maybe primates? But even then we're not sure if they're actually doing it or we're anthropomorphizing) \n\nI think humor has at least in part, an element of contradiction. An analysis of the world with a conclusion that operates outside our realm of expectations. For some reason, our discovery of such contradictions creates a purely involuntary, almost euphoric reaction. Our minds are delighted when something like this happens. \n\nI think we run afoul when we point out contradictions that shake up our core values. This is because offensive jokes and dark humor run in contrast with a world that we want to behave nicely and orderly. Funny is a relative state of mind where you divorce an idea from its grounded reality and observe it in a vacuum and let it run into absurdity. Likewise, its important to be able to separate your ego from the values you've attached to yourself and break *them* down to the point of absurdity, where the very foundation of your character come under question. This can become a brutally pointed and personal attack. It comes at no surprise that the people who are raising the most stink recently are those who are *already* struggling with their own self perceived notion of the world and their role in it. \n\nBUT\n\nI think this is actually where humor is the most crucially important. Because if you can't operate at this level of self-actualization, you run the risk of holding an unquestioned belief that it inevitably descends into fanaticism and ignorance. \n\n\nthanks for reading my blog i guess",
"The thing with this though is that Comedy Central, a giant corporate media conglomerate was using this subversive little rant to manipulate gen-x viewers by being meta. Controversy is profitable. Media companies create this stuff intentionally to profit off people jumping on the bandwagon.",
" Lol you have no idea what you're talking about, do you actually think some corporate exec wrote this?",
" You wouldnt be universally accepting if you didn't accept funny comedians now would you?",
"I think your conflating me with the reddit hive mind\nMate. I agree those things are bullshit, particularly the classist ( if very us centric) shot about states. Thats just a variation of uk class issues to me, where again, making jokes at people who are a lower social class is mean spirited and punching down.\n\nAs an aside, my view of reddit remains that it has no problem punching down, as reddit is primarily people who have been bullied in the past who are now revelling in their chance to bully others in a way that feels safe to them. Its why it also tends to have that justice boner and glorifys violence so much\n\nPerhaps the reason you see it as a cop out is that you have conflated real life where its valid and true, with people using it in bad faith on reddit",
"Great, time for everybody’s dissertation on comedy, instead of enjoying comedy.",
"[my response ](https://youtu.be/adh0KGmgmQw)",
"If I see comedians or anyone else acting like assholes, can I call those people out as being assholes?\n\nThey can say what they want in any free country, but likewise if I think someone is being cruel I'm free to say that those people are assholes.",
"Yeah, sure. If you protest outside of a network studio to try and get the comedian and others like him removed from comedy, I'll be the one calling *you* an asshole.",
"How about if I just call them assholes, is that alright with you?",
"Sure :)",
"I understand what you’re saying, but wouldn’t it have been so random writer who can’t up this this monologue, not a Comedy Central employee?\n\nDoes a network really have that much say where they could actually device a specific monologue and force it into a creators show like that? I mean know nothing about how a show is created, but I didn’t think it worked like that.",
"Look up Aaron Macgruder and him being fired from the Boondocks because he criticized BET or how NBC and FOX heads colluded to keep Bill O'Reilly and Keith Olberman from sharing corporate dirt. It's not them writing specific scripts, it's more about shaping narratives and controlling the subjects that people talk about.",
"I think you miss the point.\n\nThe entire point is that (good) comedy *should* make you think about it. Humor is built on breaking \"rules\"; social, political, economic, etc. \"rules\" by examining these things through a different perspective.\n\nThis perspective is typically an out-group one by someone who hasn't embraced the orthodoxy of the in-group. And this *should* make the in-group uncomfortable because their ideas and beliefs, their rules are being challenged.\n\nThe \"innocuous, child-proof, flavorless mush\" comedy Duckman is talking about can be seen every night on the late-night network shows; humor marked not by \"laughter\" but agreeing clapping as the host has turned into a preacher for his same-minded audience. The jokes are designed to not offend the sensibilities of the congregation, they are designed to confirm their beliefs.\n\nThis is why we still have these late night hosts telling jokes mostly about \\[anything but Biden\\].\n\nGo watch older comedy specials with live audiences, particularly those by black comedians speaking to black audiences. They are filled with racist, sexist, and other \"offensive\" jokes (often at the expense of the very types of people in the audience), and yet no one in the audience is getting offended, why?\n\nJokes work best when we can see our \"sacred cows\" in a new, often offensive-to-our-beliefs, light. It is the in the breaking down of norms and orthodoxy that we find humor, not upholding it. It is like any \"taboo\" subject, we revel in the breaking of the rules.\n\nWhere comedy fails is when the comedian stops laughing *with* the audience and starts laughing *at* the audience; this is the sign of a bad comedian. Think back to Michael Richards and his disastrous Laugh Factory appearance. \n\nThe audience was actually laughing and enjoying the beginning of his rant and it wasn't until it became clear he was *attacking* the audience that his previously-racist-but-funny rant turned into something offensive; when he started to turn good-natured comedy into an anger-filled attack.\n\nYou (or, in most cases these days, on behalf of someone else) being offended is not the same thing as a comedian attacking you. Again: \"laughing *with* you vs *at* you\".\n\nJokes can (and probably should) be a little offensive to you, they are meant to be. If they weren't/aren't, they probably aren't jokes, they are probably just preaching."
] | 37 |
videos
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Duckman talking about comedians who play by the rules
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=loLik89hxF8&feature=share
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/r/videos/comments/qi27by/chow_yun_fat_showed_us_30_years_ago_how_to_really/
|
[
"Try hard 😂",
"Good thing he didn't draw the death tile.",
"China numba won",
"Fuck You! China #3, USA #1!!!!",
"Great spectacle!\n\nBut is this a chinese movie dubbed in japanese and subbed in english?",
"AngryPug is leaking",
"Does anyone know if the rest of the movie is as hilarious as this scene?",
"I was just thinking about this Mother Fucker the other day. He got really hot for awhile, with Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon and Face Off, but just kind of disappeared off the scene. American scene, at least. All his John Woo shit was my favorite. \n\nOK, I checked, he's still active, but it looks like Dragonball is what killed his American career.",
"Yeah, but there is both Japanese and Chinese",
"the movie is in Cantonese (made in HK), this scene had Japanese due to the opponent Chow Yun-fat's character was facing",
"He's no longer active, he is against the CCP and sold all his belongings.",
"> OK, I checked, he's still active, but it looks like Dragonball is what killed his American career.\n\nWell deserved.",
"When the woman takes off her sleeves - is this for better mobility when she's shaking the dices? I've seen this in some anime before. In this case also to show off the tattoos I guess.",
"I have not seen this movie in years, what a blast from the past. \n\n\n80's Chow Yun Fat was fucking BOSS.",
"It looks pretty watchable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBL7--38dEU",
"It's to prove they're not cheating or trying to rig the dice somehow",
"Ah so that they’re not hiding anything in their sleeves I guess.",
"He's supported Hong Kong, and critical of China's use of force against them, multiple times in the past, which has led to China censoring him.",
"I think everyone down voting this doesn't understand the hilarious context\n\n\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xN0vUlljX0I\n\nhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/taiwan-1",
"https://i.imgur.com/jb268vM",
"This is ridiculous and I love it!",
"Thanks for clarifying",
"Thanks for clarifying",
"we know, it's not funny."
] | 24 |
videos
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Chow Yun Fat showed us 30 years ago, how to really play Mah Jong [God of Gamblers]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plu1Mr1v354
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/r/videos/comments/qi4ang/lady_rams_her_vehicle_into_a_house_then_sets_it/
|
[
"[If you love somebody, set them on fire](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlyvcti3kQU)",
"Wild",
"The people standing there at 21:10 getting blasted by the fire hydrant.",
"3:40 to watch her calmly and creepily start a fire on her lap while in a closed car.",
"Wtaf? Was she found afterwards, and was she dead or alive??",
"She was found and arrested: https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/toronto/2021/8/25/1_5561162.html",
"https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/toronto/2021/8/25/1_5561162.html",
"Jilted lover? I mean the psycho didn't just randomly pick this house.",
"There was many many minutes and nobody did shit for the fire? Stupid people.",
"Why wouldn’t somebody grab a hose? Could’ve probably been dealt with in the first couple minutes of him seeing her light it.",
"[ **Jump to 21:10 @** Lady rams her Vehicle into a house then sets it on fire](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plu1Mr1v354&t=0h21m10s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Scott Wollin, Video Popularity: 88.15%, Video Length: [23:43])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@21:05](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plu1Mr1v354&t=0h21m5s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)",
"[ **Jump to 03:40 @** Lady rams her Vehicle into a house then sets it on fire](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plu1Mr1v354&t=0h3m40s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Scott Wollin, Video Popularity: 88.15%, Video Length: [23:43])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@03:35](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plu1Mr1v354&t=0h3m35s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)",
"That fire became fully involved insanely fast.... The way it had that entire house fully engulfed in such a short period of time is extremely concerning.....",
"This has to be one of the strangest things I've ever seen.",
"I think they were concerned with the car exploding, and doing all they could to warn others to evacuate. Movies tell us burning cars blow up in epic fashion. \nWhat’s probably going to bother the guy filming is that he asked her to get out, she went to back out, and then he said to stop the vehicle and get out of the car. \nIf she backed out maybe the house wouldn’t have burned. \nBut having said that she was driving around hitting stuff, so on the darkest timeline she could have killed people with the car.",
"Imagine being the neighbor? She could have killed people. She could have suffocated a sleeping child or old person. Fire is so indiscriminate.",
"Wrong hole brother!",
"Lol it's been too long since I heard this jam. Thank you",
"Right? Why didn't anyone get a fire extinguisher, a hose or even a bucket of water before letting the fire get out of hand? Sad situation. She was obviously in distress.",
"Probably should’ve called authorities when she was ramming the garage at the very beginning. A car is a weapon when you’re ramming into shit. Cops probably would’ve handled this better(white lady, probably would not have shot her).",
"yea the video was 4+ minutes in before anyone was heard even calling the police which is insane beacause they watched her ram into that house before even recording",
"Imagine filming something like this, in portrait, for 23 minutes straight, in 2021 the year of our lord.",
"Not very ladylike.",
"Thanks! So it seems like Adam West tried to save her. Seems like what we’d expect from the Batman impersonator! \n\n\n\n/s the guy *is* named Adam West but of course he’s not the famous actor who portrayed the original tv show character Batman.",
"cop at 12:48, \"guys, put the phones away, are you kidding me?\"",
"Too busy filming.",
"It's easy to play captain hindsight with these things.\n\nRemember that this was an obviously (or seemingly) crazy lady that was still very much right there. They didn't know if she had a gun or another weapon, or if she would do some other dangerous thing if you come close to her. Or if the car might explode. Or any other number of dangerous things happening.",
"You would think new houses would be a bit more fire proof. That thing went up like a matchbox.",
"Yeah, yucky.",
"I just realized she 9/11'd that house..",
"She missed out on buying SHIB.. Classic reaction..",
"The whole bystanders reaction, or rather the lack of it, is appalling.\n\nI understand that you have call the emergency services, stay safe and not get yourself in danger.\n\nBut where I grew up, a dozen of people would have shown up, dragged that women ass out of the car and put out the fire in a matter of a minute. That house had not to burn because some good Samaritans were just their watching.",
"Yes, it's awful. They didn't really help at all.",
"I like the idea that Adam West's Batman was only impersonating the real batman and that's why it was all so camp.",
"If you're not 100% sure what the source of a fire is, you really shouldn't go spraying anything on it. Spraying water on chemical fires for example will actually FEED the fire and intensify it as opposed to putting it out. Combustible metal (Magnesium, lithium, etc) fires for example, when sprayed with water, will result in a violent and explosive reaction and has to be put out with a Class-D extinguisher (Marked with the letter K). This is an issue that's becoming more and more common with electric cars becoming increasingly popular. \n\nTL;DR: Unless you know what's fueling a fire, you're better off waiting for the professionals to put it out, even if you do, depending on how hot and fast it burns, there is a VERY high probability that your standard garden hose won't have the water pressure or volume to make a dent. At that point, the best thing you could do with your hose would be to spray down the sides of neighboring houses to keep them cool and reduce the chances of them going up from a stray ember.",
"You are the sort of guy who stands around waiting for someone to tell you what to do. In a time of crisis you have to use your initiative and do something.",
"No, most of my family are firefighters...... I know when to get involved, and when to stay away, and fires you don't know the cause of are things to stay away from and let the professionals put out. Attempting to save a person's life is a completely different story though, and anyone should make every reasonable and safe effort to ensure the safety of those around them as long as they do so safely and not to endanger others.\n\nAttitudes like yours are more dangerous than they are beneficial and ultimately put MORE life at risk than it saves. If you're not a professional with the appropriate equipment to handle the situation you're walking into, all you're doing is putting yourself at risk and potentially creating another victim that the fire department would have to search for and rescue before being able to focus all of their attention on putting out the blaze. That is how people get killed.",
"We're talking about a car that's on fire here, I think it's safe to say that hose water would most likely do the trick. My dad was a firefighter so I do appreciate what you're saying.",
"If we're talking about standard internal combustion driven cars then yes, but if it was an electric vehicle using LiPo batteries, water won't do anything but feed the fire. You need a dry chemical agent such as Purple-K (same used for magnesium and other combustible metal fires) to extinguish it. In this case, I don't believe it was an electric vehicle, but with their increasing popularity it's still something that warrants consideration.",
"In case you didn't notice at the beginning she was ramming the car into the garage. They were concerned that she would start doing it again if they tried anything. The door was locked which would have meant smashing the window. How do you think trying to drag someone who would probably fight back from a moving car in a confined space would work out?",
"Police can't tell anyone to stop filming in a public place.",
"True, not as law enforcement. I think this cop was just saying it as a human speaking to other humans, trying to appeal to common sense and decency.",
"He literally saw that it was a fabric fire though he was more shocked about the lady smoking a joint."
] | 43 |
videos
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Lady rams her Vehicle into a house then sets it on fire
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVlkxrNlp10
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/r/videos/comments/qi4dqm/list_of_people_george_carlin/
|
[
"Genius!",
"Heard this year's ago and still use the \"beaten by clubs and left to die in the moonlight\" to this day. He had a great way to say the same thing in different ways.",
"It’s worth noting that none of the people he complains about are inherent qualities, but rather behaviors.",
"“Inoperable tumor at the base of his spine” knocked me out"
] | 4 |
videos
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List of people - George Carlin
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU3Q2gOV0VY
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/r/videos/comments/qi4g33/oil_executive_patronizes_katie_porter_and_regrets/
|
[
"Holy shit this woman is obnoxious.",
"No, you're just slow.",
"I am a huge fan of this woman. I love the way she holds their feet to the fire.",
"Can we call her the GOAT yet?",
"Hey lady, children are starving in Africa.",
"This was fine till the annoying guy in the suit came on.",
"appreciate the guy who just answered straight up \"no\".\n\nhe's smart enough to know - \"i'm fucking the earth, and she's gonna nail me to the wall, fuck that.\"",
"So send them some oil.",
"Children are starving in America",
"Yeah, these guys are super fucking smart if you ask them, but it still took two of them eating shit before the third caught on.",
"Does feeling that way make it easier to ignore what she's saying?",
"I didn’t find the guy annoying at all.",
"Totally. They know how to bend a narrative, but old mate realised that would be worse.",
"I did. I love Katie but fuck that guy.",
"Wow she’s obnoxious RECLAIMING MY TIME",
"I'm gonna guess fewer than 8",
"I could watch Rep Katie Porter rip douchebags new ones all day.",
"I think she was looking for a yes or no answer and he was smart enough to see that and comply.",
"But you need someone to tell you what to think of what you just watched. How else will you form your own opinions? /s",
"That's a lot of rice.",
"So they don't just filibuster and wind up giving a non-committal PR answer. It was obvious they were saying no, why should she waste time listening to their bullshit.\n\nPlus, she was obviously doing it so when it cut back to her she had progressed the visual prop to further cement how greedy these people are.",
"Worthy of being President. All day.",
"Can she come and be an Australian politician?",
"I hate when people point out that Tesla was built \"using government money\", and are either oblivious to the extent oil and gas have been subsidised for decades or just accept it as \"the way these things work\".",
"These are becoming PR theater for politicians",
"Bless her heart",
"Couldn't have closed the video any faster.",
"She asked a yes or no question, why give them time if they aren't going to answer straight.",
"Oh man absolutely. It’s insane how many Aussie politics are straight up conspiracy theories/climate change deniers who want to fuck the earth for short term gain. Only last week did they start agreeing to zero emission targets by 2050. Which is still WAYYYY too late. But because the media has been feeding the public this bullshit narrative, people at too apathetic to care.",
"I thought the info he provided was good and didn't find him that annoying?",
"> fuck that guy.\n\nWhy?",
"I never thought of all that before, ever! Thanks debate bro man!!!",
"? Watch the video...",
"I watched it. Was it his opinions or what? I truly don't understand your reaction.",
"Just fuck him in general. Seems like an asshole. That's just(well, obviously not just me but) me.",
"What's more annoying is oil execs lobbying to start wars in the middle east that leave millions dead and destroying the planet that we live on.",
"They’re only in it for two reasons: the next election and lining their own pockets. Australia is totally fucked up.",
"Because he’s a shallow YouTube “personality” that thinks his passive aggressive, snarky commentary is “edgy” and better than the woman herself’s words.",
"What astute and compelling arguments. I'm truly convinced this person really knows what they're talking about.",
"How did you come to that conclusion? He put a small entertainment twist to his part but I appreciated the well delivered info.",
"He's realized \"Oh, this is going to be a clip on the news later, and I want my face on screen as little as possible.\"",
"Katie says enough on her own and doesn’t need some hollow pundit thinking they’re expanding on things.",
"I'm eurotrash so I wasn't that well versed on the topic. The fella explained a lot. I still think \"fuck that guy\" is a bit too extreme.",
"Oh. Who's paying?"
] | 44 |
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Oil executive patronizes Katie Porter and regrets it
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=onYwoYD5_bY
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/r/videos/comments/qi4n8b/as_a_nonsports_fan_i_will_never_experience_this/
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[
"I don't think I want to experience that. Looks bad for the heart.",
"EZ: Same feeling as when one of your penny stocks makes surprise gains.",
"What kind of sport is non-sports? Sounds interesting",
"And all of the domestic violence shelters in the greater Green Bay area breathe a gigantic sigh of relief.",
"As a football fan, the highs are so high. \n\n\nAnd then you walk into a trap game and lose to the fucking jets. You want to die. The season is over, you have the bills and chiefs in the next two weeks. If you lost to the jets there is no way you beat those teams. May as well start watching competitive basket weaving. \n\n\nBut oh my ghawd, when you win those games you hooty hoo, I tell ya hwat",
"Its getting especially worse given that Sports Betting is becoming so easy here in the US. Its one thing to watch a game as a fan; quite another if you have next month's rent or mortgage riding on the outcome. \n\nEven had a local radio station change formats to non-stop talking about point spreads / over - unders, prop bets, etc. Found it funny that they don't use the term \"Sports Betting\" when talking about their content, but rather \"Wagertainment\"",
"I think I've only ever experienced this kind of emotion when you wake up in the morning and it's a snow day and you were waiting for school closures to scroll across the screen and you see your school and then you didn't have to go to school."
] | 7 |
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As a non-sports fan I will never experience this...
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https://youtu.be/nhPEErJnErU
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/r/videos/comments/qi4q1v/the_worlds_most_popular_type_of_banana_cavendish/
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[
"We've stopped buying bananas because they are all contaminated with this.",
"Why? The fungus doesn't hurt humans.",
"That's a dangerous statement. Exposure to micro organisms is a tricky field and the negative effects are not always obvious. Enough exposure to something can cause allergies or changes in gene expression.",
"I swear I've seen this same story every year for the past ten years.",
"Sucks. But we've done this before. Cavendish isn't the OG banana",
"Sounds like speculators are about drive up the market price of bananas just before main harvest time, like every year, the same story at the same time.",
"The negative effects from exposure to idiots like yourself are always obvious. Not sure how that would cause changes to my gene expression, but why take the chance.",
"There is no difference between selective breeding and GMO and nobody is against selective breeding so therefore nobody is against GMO.",
"Not much of an argument.\n\nFeel free to educate yourself. There's a lot of information out there about exposure to micro organisms and links to serious diseases. I wouldn't go eating bananas contaminated with this but you can knock yourself out if you want to.",
"Interesting theory. \n\nAren't bananas grown year round though? Pretty sure most of them are grown in Latin America where there's just a dry season and a rainy season.",
"indeed, it was a bad point for me to make, \n\nSo its just speculators driving up the price willy nilly as they attempt to do every year with the same story.",
"At this point I know more about bananas then anything else I eat just because this same story keeps rolling around every nine months or so.",
"I am against GMOs only because I think it's a fucking awful idea to allow the patent system to have jurisdiction over something that reproduces itself autonomously. \n\nThat needs a legal fix very badly.",
"If you worry about exposure to micro organisms regardless of what they are or whether they are considered to be dangerous or not, you better stop eating just about every food, because nothing is 100% sterile.",
"Yeah I remember getting these little hard-shell candies one halloween that were shaped like fruit and tasted like the corresponding fruit.\n\nExcept bananas. Odd flavor, definitely not the nanners I knew.\n\nMy grandma told me that it tasted like the bananas that were before cavendish (Gros Michel?).",
"It was probably Runts. The banana always tasted weird. Same with Laffy Taffy.",
"I swear I'm not a shill for big banana corp",
"Yes! It was Runts! :D",
"ah, well, if you swear....",
"Hey dingus, literally everything you just posted about 8 hours ago (lemongrass, green chili, ginger) in a recipe suggestion is effected by Fusarium. I've got a *shocking* revelation about the chicken part of that recipe for you as well. Microorganisms are everywhere and effect literally *EVERYTHING* you ingest.\n\nNo one tell this guy what's on his pillow or his own skin, let alone every fucking square millimeter of this planet. \n\nBe sure to remember this post next time you're eating your partner's ass, lol.",
"There's a big difference between minute quantities of something and actual black fungal spots that you can easily see.",
"That’s why mushrooms and blue cheese are known to kill people. You’re comical. Telling people to “educate” themselves. I’ll just go with the experts on this and ignore internet idiots. Saves a lot of time.\n\nFusarium oxysporum f.sp. cubense is not a human pathogen.",
"Wtf of course there is a fucking difference. No amount of selective breeding is going to produce the outcomes that genetic modification can produce. Wtf sort of nonsense are you spouting?",
"He did his own research though! /s",
"False.",
"The first 60 seconds:\n\n> One scientist recently developed a line of Cavendish that is resistance to TR4\n\nGreat!\n\n> ... but it was genetically modified\n\n?!?! Why do some people have so much hate against GMO?",
"Yep, likely gros michel. Which were sweeter and smaller (also had slightly less shelf life, I believe). \n\n\nFun fact, Gros Michel bananas also had much much slippier skins. That's why there's so many old jokes about people slipping on banana peels, it actually used to be a much more likely occurrence with Gros Michels.",
"Like the other downvoted comment, I disagree. And on top of the difficulty to arrive at the desired outcome by autonomous reproduction, you'd have to think about the invested time and money. The person (corporation) that did it, totally deserves to be compensated imo.",
"Nah. The chemical used for banana candies is isoamyl acetate. It's common to most (all?) varieties of bananas, it being developed to taste only like the gros michel is a myth. https://gizmodo.com/debunking-the-myth-of-the-fake-banana-flavor-1629459201\n\nI've also verified this firsthand - you can still buy the gros michel. It's not extinct. I've had it several times in Hawaii. Delicious but not mind blowing. I prefer ladyfingers or even red bananas.",
"everyone saw that coming",
"Your link literally says \"However, a taste test has shown that the Gros Michel does closely resemble the artificial banana flavor\"",
"But did you know that bananas are actually berries?",
"ITT: People just commenting on the title and not actually watching the video.",
"People hear “genetically modified” and lack the scientific background to understand why that isn’t necessarily a bad thing.",
"Also known as “Big Mike” banana!",
"I don't know what the answer is but I've heard people with conservationist/agriculture backgrounds refer to GMOs as a bit of a last resort in a situation like this. I believe (some varieties of) potatoes also face a similar fate of being at odds in an arms war with nature that will likely have us go down the GMO road eventually.\n\nBut the attitude might just be from the consumer end being so unaccepting.",
"If there is money in selling bananas, I have confidence that they will find a way to persevere",
"Could completely agree if the patent system wasn't broken.",
"It also says, right at the start, “And while there's a kernel of truth to the idea that fake banana resembles a variety that nearly went extinct, it's still a just a myth.”",
"Let's say you are a farmer.\n\nOne season some of your crop is noticeably more resistant to disease. So you save the seeds from those and start growing that. \n\nThen a huge corporation sue you for infringement and you have to pay millions of dollars in royalties.",
"Holup",
"It's not popular for its flavour though. It's a very good banana for producers which has led to it being the only choice for many (most?).",
"And technically strawberries aren't berries at all.",
"I remember being deployed about 10-11 years ago and hearing about the loss of Gros Michel and this exact story. This Cavendish is really dragging it out.",
"They also don't understand that we've been modifying crops for thousands and thousands of years",
"Good, Cavendish is terrible. Hopefully the next cultivar will be selected for taste as well as transportability.",
"BRUH",
"What about genetically modifying our grains leading to gluten allergies?",
"https://robynobrien.com/how-monsanto-bankrupted-the-american-farm/\n\nGMO seeds are owned by a company like Monsanto. Farmers have to buy the seed from Monsanto only and cannot save seeds from year to year.\n\nThis bankrupts the farmer.\n\nIn India, it turns small farmers into wage slaves for Monsanto: https://www.motherjones.com/food/2015/09/no-gmos-didnt-create-indias-farmer-suicide-problem/",
"Right? I rarely eat bananas. Taste is mediocre at best and they always seem to leave a weird film on my teeth. Apparently there are some bananas that taste incredible but are only available in Indonesia. There's a YouTube channel out there where the guy trys all sorts of unique fruits and has reviewed a few unique banana varieties.",
"> awful idea to allow the patent system to have jurisdiction over something that reproduces itself autonomously\n\nNon-GMOs are patented too, are you also against non-GMOs?",
"Big argument against GMO’s:\nThe courts have decided that the manufacturer of a GMO owns the rights to that variety (you can patent biology). Meaning, if you want to grow the new disease resistant plant, you are buying the seeds from the maker of the GMO, which might be costly. These bananas don’t have seeds and the plant lives a long time, but for other GMO’s the seeds can spread and the plants are annuals (die every year). So if you are caught with the GMO plants in your field because the seeds spread naturally and you didn’t buy them, the GMO manufacturer can sue you. Also, the GMO’s can outcompete natural plants. Or (the bigger problem) farmers have to buy the GMO seeds every year, when normally they can use seeds from the previous years’ yields to grow the next years’ crops. This is a big hit in profits. So it is financially difficult to convert your fields, especially when your buyers don’t want to pay more for something that they can’t highlight the higher price tag. Advertising the new, more expensive GMO banana isn’t going to fly off the shelves because there is already a negative connotation with GMO’s.\n\nTLDR: GMO’s are patentable, gives the manufacturer a monopoly on a product, and can be financially burdensome on farmers that would now have to buy the new seeds every year.",
"I am a plant geneticist, and have talked with the industry people as well as the scientist who developed the transgenic bannana. Industry tries to avoid GMOs because of public perception and some government regulation (rather then any scientific reason).\n\nLast I talked to them their plan was to breed the resistance gene into the Cavendish, which is functionally the same as the GMO bannana. The arms race argument holds little weight, we are often just using genes that are present within the target species and moving them into the desired agricultural line with molecular techniques anyway, making the end result the same as if you had done it via breeding. \n\nYou can make an argument that we are in a bit of an arms race with pesticides and herbicides, but GMOs really only factor into that when deciding what herbicide of pesticide to use. In many cases they let us reduce pesticide use, and allow for more targeted and lower dosage herbacides.\n\nYou can make a harmful GMO, and keeping an eye on it is probably a good idea. There was a group that created a pesticide resistant crop (I think it was a tropical fruit) and realized that they had introduced a common tree nut allergen, but that is currently non issue.",
"yeah, me too. The only thing that caught my eye is that it's jumped to the Americas. It wasn't a huge deal when it was in Asia as that is only 25% of the production. Latin America means the main bulk of production is now at risk.",
"\"Cavendish\" \"Gros Michel\" As someone who's only aware of bananas as \"bananas\", bananas sure have some fancy names. Bananas.",
"This was the case for those Indian farmers that were sued by Lays a couple of years ago for using their potatoes, right?",
"I am unfamiliar with that specific case, but I know Monsanto has gone after a lot of Indian farmers claiming that they are using their patented crops.",
"Governments are being very careful. My dad in Hawaii had people came and destroyed his plant(Just one) , and then give him a new one after a few years. ~~The fungus was still in the soi~~l and the new plant died. He basically gave up. It wasnt even a cavendish, it was a apple banana.\n\n**Apparently** it was a different desease called the [Banana bunchy top virus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_bunchy_top_virus). It really ravages any farm it is seen. There are signs all around saying [\"You are now entering a banana quarantine zone\".](https://imgur.com/xQAFv8A) Any bananas leaving the islands have to be irradiated to kill everything. \n\nI've never had as good of a banana as I did 20 years ago. RIP banana tree.",
"Growing up in the Caribbean, we had many different cultivars of bananas including Gros Michel which is superior to Cavendish but It was wiped out by a fungal infection in Central America in the 50’s. I think the one you’re talking about is Lacatan, it’s popular in that region.",
"The banana we eat today the cavendish is ALREADY genetically modified. This is click bait.",
"And tomatoes are a fruit!",
"Oh christ the seed thing is insane. Small farmers have been ruined over cross pollination. You're not allowed to save any seed produced by your crop, you have to buy new seed every year.",
"And animals. Dairy cows sure as fuck didn't start out looking like they do now. Most dog breeds are modified, some to the point that breeders are beginning to revert them somewhat. Humans modify the world around them in any aspect they can.",
"I agree that is an issue. But it is an issue with patent laws on biological organisms not something inherently wrong with GMO's.",
"This is a huge issue. But are the GMOs inherently bad or is the issue really with patent laws/seed sovereignty?",
"This is the big issue, but is the best way to ban GMOs or ban patent laws on biological organisms? This seems like being against metallurgy because you don't like guns.",
"Yes, it's an issue with the patent laws, which is why I replied to the guy defending the patent laws.",
"I don't see the issue. They don't want to spend the money on the solution, so it will probably be cheaper to make it extinct then go for another banana type again then sell that one.",
"The patent has a life of 20 years once filed. After that, it’s free game.",
"> Big argument against GMO’s: The courts have decided that the manufacturer of a GMO owns the rights to that variety (you can patent biology). \n\nNon-GMOs are patented.\n\n> So if you are caught with the GMO plants in your field because the seeds spread naturally and you didn’t buy them, the GMO manufacturer can sue you.\n\nThis hypothetical scenario has never happened.",
"That first article is factually incorrect, for example\n\n> Operating systems that not only require farmers to purchase genetically engineered seeds rather than save heritage seeds, but that also require farmers to purchase the suite of -cides—pesticides, herbicides, insecticides, fungicides—required to grow them.\n\nThey are not required to buy pesticides from the manufacture.",
"1. Getting a patent on living organisms is big. It leads to implications that companies could possibly patent genetic code of animals. Patent your DNA. \n\n2. Just because you haven’t heard of it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. At least do a quick search before you call bullshit on me:\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto_legal_cases",
"> Getting a patent on living organisms is\n\nLike I pointed out earlier, non-GMOs are patented. Your entire monopoly argument applies to non-GMOs as well.\n\n> At least do a quick search before you call bullshit on me:\n\nDid you even read that link? Which cases is for your original claim of \" if you are caught with the GMO plants in your field because the seeds spread naturally and you didn’t buy them, the GMO manufacturer can sue you\"?",
"Yes, but it would be difficult to replicate a living organism without the technology. There has been a lot of progress with companies making seedless or infertile plants. So farmers would need to buy the seeds from some manufacturer every year because they can’t make them themselves.",
"> the best way to ban GMOs or ban patent laws on biological organisms?\n\nNon-GMOs are patented so banning patents would impact advancements in non-GMOs.",
"[Update on the potato patent](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/razl6n/india_revokes_patent_for_pepsicos_lays_potatoes/)"
] | 77 |
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The world's most popular type of banana, Cavendish, is currently at risk of being wiped out by a deadly fungus
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PSueHOY-Jk&ab_channel=flappye
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/r/videos/comments/qi5mba/black_dynamite_anaconda_malt_liquor_conclusion/
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[
"Haha!\n\nThrew that shit before I walked in the room!",
"The Rod of Asclepius is a staff with ONE snake wound around it. The double snakes wound together is Hermes' Caduceus. Lotta people confuse the two, as did the writers of this scene.\nAlso, this scene has been posted like a million times...",
"Thanks buzzkill",
"The delivery on the realisation of the area code of Topeka is perfect",
"But Black Dynamite, I sell drugs to the community!",
"Why are you fact checking a scene from a parody blaxploitation movie\n\nBeing confidently incorrect about a plot device is like, part of what makes them unique. You’ve ruined everything!"
] | 6 |
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Black Dynamite- Anaconda Malt Liquor Conclusion Scene
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https://youtu.be/_RfGrcGUddM
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/r/videos/comments/qi5zwu/taiwanese_handmade_candy/
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[
"Found this video tonight. I love silent hand craft related videos. Anyone have any recommendations of others?",
"That’s freeeeegin awesome",
"I wish he had some gloves",
"All that work and she just dissolves it in coffee lmao",
"Now how do I buy directly from these nice folks",
"[/r/ArtisanVideos](https://old.reddit.com/r/ArtisanVideos/) got a bunch.",
"They've got a spot in Taiwan where you can buy from them.",
"Was anyone keeping track of how many pulls he did? How many individual threads of sugar are in the finished product? I'm gonna have to X-post this to r/theydidthemath.",
"It wouldn't kill you, in fact powdered iron is good for you. If you take a bowl of cornflakes, powder it and run a magnet over it, you'll actually collect a visible amount of iron. \n\nAlso, if you're squeamish about some metal, you really don't want to look at how much other shit* various food associations (eg. FDA) allows in our food.\n\n*Literally",
"when the [beever queefs](https://youtu.be/_RfGrcGUddM?t=703) it make me very happy"
] | 11 |
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Taiwanese Handmade Candy
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https://youtu.be/PC0PUxrQagU
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/r/videos/comments/qi61eh/plumber_unclogging_really_nasty_drain/
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[
"OMG 😳 Well I guess YouTube has everything!",
"Why couldn't they simply unscrew those 2 caps? They were both threaded(?)",
"I'm not a plumber by any means, but after watching his other videos, they all seem to be this way. I haven't seen him \"unscrew\" any of these. Only hammer them with a mallet",
"Poop coated threads are hard to turn I guess",
"Interesting. I also noticed at the very ending he didn't seem to tap them in very hard.",
"I was curious so I googled it. Seems like those caps start threaded but after a while, you just can't unscrew them, too much corrosion. The new plugs look threaded but not meant to be screwed; they are tapered lead caps so it all forms easily to the corroded end of the pipe to seal it after it's hammered in.",
"Thanks! That makes sense. Retrofit, basically."
] | 7 |
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Plumber unclogging really nasty drain
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https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qi6ad1/deleted_by_user/
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/r/videos/comments/qi6ad1/deleted_by_user/
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[
"Short and sweet, but the music was too much.",
"Also a distinct lack of detail into what happened and why. Short, but might as well have been a one paragraph tabloid article.",
"The video sucks. It's just stock footage on a loop with narration and crappy music.",
"Ah, I see. The photography is beautiful! Sorry, I assumed it was stock footage.\n\nI still think the video as a whole is a weak because I was more interested in the story of the meltdown, and the visuals do not support the story.",
"This kinda looks like the island from wolverine",
"The bit i remember from a long ass boring video was they went into detail of why that valve wasn't working, IIRC because it hadn't been working the entire time and they just ignored it when the alarm went off for it. It was the main cause of the accident so I think that deserves a short re-cap.\n\nIf you can find a cool diagram of the cooling system that also helps people visualise what is going on. IIRC that valve was a steam relief valve from some storage tanks?",
"There have been much worse nuclear inidents in America than TMI. TMI was mainly just a media fueled scare.\n\nSL-1 actually blew the top off of a reactor, and pinned one of the operators to the roof with a control rod. The entire reactor vessel jumped about 10 feet straight up.\n\n The bodies of the plant personnel were so radioactive they had to be buried in lead caskets, and then covered with several cubic feet of cement. Their graves are not allowed to be moved without the approval of the AEC."
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[deleted by user]
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https://youtu.be/_ShcWZmbTj0
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/r/videos/comments/qi6ahl/relativistic_baseball/
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[
"Do they even credit XKCD for the work they ripped off?",
"This is one of my favorite XKCD discussions. Fuck these plagiarists.",
"What work?",
"This - https://what-if.xkcd.com/1/",
"Oh wow it’s like a direct transcript with no cited source. Not cool."
] | 5 |
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Relativistic Baseball
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https://youtu.be/YqdbfKtixU8
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/r/videos/comments/qi6q0k/25_animators_join_together_to_animate_a_single/
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[
"This is quite good",
"Disappointingly unwatchable.",
"A single game of table tennis… that has 12+ different players.",
"Super good. I see references to Nichijou, Animal Crossing, FLCL, Made In Abyss, Sailor Moon, and, of course, Ping Pong.",
"this was so freaking good!",
"That music is stressing as fuck to listen to.",
"This has Lethal League levels of nonsense and I love it.",
"[more water for the sea critter](https://youtu.be/HuJNhd65Apk)",
"I eat this UP, good fuckin WORK",
"Cold blooded!",
"PTSD flashbacks to playing against grandma as a younger me.",
"Everything was way over the top and was waiting for someone to just animate a normal back and forth which would have been more impressive to be honest.",
"It would have been a nice comedic break.\n\n*tink........ *tink........",
"Yeah exactly. The same way a movie or song cant be always hype and need its slow moments for people to catch a break as well as to build up again.",
"Oh yes, of all the things, that was *definitely* the most unrealistic.",
"Even the music sounds very similar.\n\nSuch an awesome, underrated game (well, series of games).",
"I wasn’t talking about realism. The heading is 25 animators animate a SINGLE GAME. If it’s supposed to be a single game, there should be 2 characters (even if they are different stylistic versions of the same characters).",
"That normal little *tock* at 2:39 was perfect.",
"That’s one tough ping pong ball."
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25 Animators join together to animate a single game of Ping Pong. Things get insane.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsb6CM3t6LY
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/r/videos/comments/qi74es/why_would_you_ever_do_this/
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[
"Just watching this is anxiety-inducing!",
"Drr drr drr",
"these guys are gonna die in a cave and no one will know",
"No people will know, hell the youtube algorithm knows because the first suggested video was about the dude who died in nutty putty cave.\n\nThe guy got suck upside down until he died, rescuers could just touch his shoes but not pull him out with a rope.",
"Nothing is worth doing that.",
"I can't watch this. My anxiety blew up big time.",
"Why you would do this with your 12 year old son is another question.",
"WHY",
"Looks like the guys always goes first. If a grown man can fit, a 12 year old can.",
"I have difficulty spending time in my own basement with it's 7' ceilings."
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Why would you EVER do this?!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBVAsTlg5PM
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/r/videos/comments/qi751j/u2_cover_band_gets_a_surprise_visit_from_the_edge/
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[
"The atmosphere there must have been electric!",
"The Edge is fine. Adam Clayton is fine. I saw them last Thursday at a pop concert.",
"The drummer is also fine",
"Blicklington Hall was built by Sir Henry Hobart. The Jacobean house is built on the site of a late medieval predecessor.",
"What's the name of a U2 album?",
"Joshua Tree?",
"Yes I knew that, because he composed half of it over there, and the other half...\n\nover there",
"Such a great song",
"Lovely stuff",
"Has your mother's death just hit you?",
"I think you mean Thedge and Adam Clay2thousandpounds.",
"How does this even happen? Like they are in town and say \"Let's find a cover band to jam with tonight\"",
"They went out for dinner, a couple of drinks, saw there was a cover band playing and decided to see if they were any good, they were, so they joined in.\n\nBig artists should do more of this kind of thing. It keeps them grounded, and it's a special fun."
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U2 cover band gets a surprise visit from The Edge and Adam Clayton
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQBLzotAn3M
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/r/videos/comments/qi9aat/eddie_murphy_doing_a_joke/
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[
"This is hilarious! But, if this post does not get moderated or downvoted to oblivion I will be very surprised.",
"As a gay man, this and Delirious were the funniest things you could find. I saw Raw in the theater. Funny was funny back in the 80s, and people could laugh at themselves.",
"The court's jester... that's what comedians are.. illustrating through the popular nomenclature (words that fall in and out of fashion) the juxtaposition of societies expectations, and how ridiculous they can be. If one can do it with laughter, rather then solemn soliloquy (as a Shakespeare would do) so much the better.",
"You the fuck you man!",
"OP seems pre-emptively defensive."
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Eddie Murphy doing a JOKE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrVnWJ1iAlg
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[
"Had to drop off some stuff at an ex-girlfriend's place once. She had some trust issues and it wasn't working out, and I'd just broke up but she didn't want to. Her mom answered the door.\n\nThis reminds me of that.",
"This has immense meme potential. Open the door, any number of unpleasant things is passing or standing there, \"not today\".",
"The Thing.",
"Man i feel bad for the people who had to build those structures.",
"this is a rip of an old YT video about Condition 1 weather. The original presents a much worse hellscape. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz2SeEzxMuE&ab_channel=AnthonyPowell",
"If I'm not mistaken storms like this only roll through during certain seasons. During these times construction was put on pause.",
"Yeah cuz since someone did a video once on something, no one else is ever allowed to do something similar.",
"accept no substitutes.",
"Everyone in the world is now only allowed to drive Ford Rangers.\n\nNothing else, because that would be copying 🤪",
"~~*Always*~~ *Never*, go out in a blizzard.\n\n-- The Abominable Snowman",
"Gives me bad memories of NW Greenland in the ‘80s",
"A husky."
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An Antarctic blizzard
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https://youtu.be/WkCecpH2GAo
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/r/videos/comments/qi9t5c/in_case_you_were_wondering_why_zuckerberg_had_a/
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[
"Well shit, now i have to find a new brand of BBQ sauce.",
"Wow, CGI looks so realistic these days. This video must have taken days to render.",
"Damn I liked that stuff",
"I’ve been using Stubbs and sticky fingers lately, but I’m also an uncultured New Englander, so take that as you will",
"sweet baby Ray's is my favorite human condiment",
"This was the first search result that popped up in his internet query. Marks os is very simple so it can only use very basic commands.",
"See guys I'm human. I BBQ like the rest of you. Also I've learned the name of the sauce and can recite it perfectly. Yes that is pork.",
"Sweet baby rays is one of the lowest quality BBQ sauces you can find. Tastes good but it's garbage ingredients.",
"I didn't know aliens like BBQ",
"Stubbs is great and Bulls eye is surprisingly good for the price.",
"https://youtu.be/YeemJlrNx2Q",
"Did he turn it into charcoal?",
"[Here is some Unami grill talk with Mark Zuckerberg.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M930FDIaSLA)",
"I have never seen someone more uncomfortable in their own skin. It feels like at any given second he's trying to break free from his human confinement.",
"Why does it look like he needs to remember to blink?",
"Wonder how much those people were paid to interact with it.",
"The real question here is: is he a reptilian, a robot or an alien?",
"I'm not convinced that is *his* skin.",
"Does he have financial stake in Sweet Baby Ray's or something?",
"Why do the world's two richest men have the intellect of a potato?",
"It's very exclusive and hard to find unless you have Walmart or any average grocery story in your state.",
"This guy’s social intelligence (programming?) is insanely underdeveloped. I knew a guy just like this in college. He would ace chemistry but couldn’t pass an art class.",
"Love that his PR team is going to have to decide whether to list this in a weekly report somewhere (\"BBQ video briefly made FP of Reddit\"), explain away its failure (\"attempts to humanize Zuckerberg only increase the number of robot jokes regular people tell about him\") or just pretend it never happened. Hi, PR team! Go work for someone else! I bet Colin Kaepernick is fucking cool as hell, there's an image problem you can actually fix.",
"AH, THAT SURE HITS THE HUMAN SPOT.",
"What's funny to me is this guy is a billionaire and he's sitting on the cheap chairs that I have with a shitty tiki wall behind him.\n\n\n\n*I didn't watch with volume, so apologies if he states he's not at his house",
"It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.",
"This should be top comment",
"That would be good with some Barry's Red Cola",
"The grill on the left is a green egg and costs about $1500.",
"WHY IN THE EVER-LOVING UNIVERSE WOULD ANYONE BE WONDERING THAT!?!",
"This whole thing was a setup by his pr team to make him seem like less of a freak and it just reinforced people's distaste for him",
"He's no coding genius, just good entrepreneur",
"I was making a joke, *his* programming.",
"yes",
"Dude has the smile of a serial killer",
"Oh shit",
"I know opinions can run wild on this topic, but BBQ sauce is stupid easy to make. Just various combinations of ketchup/mustard/brown sugar/apple cider vinegar/seasoning and a little time on the stove. It keeps well too since all that stuff is stable to begin with.\n\nSometimes I spike it with butter/Worcestershire/hot sauce.\n\nThat being said, I too have that bottle in my fridge for quick sauce needs.",
"You know in Men In Black when the aliens hide in human bodies but some people can kind of tell that they're an alien? And then the alien realizes the jig is up and he busts out of the skin suit and goes on a rampage? It's like that except Mark doesn't realize the jig is up.",
"Someone in another thread described it as *food lotion*.",
"This will never get old.",
"Enough with the hyperbole you guys are obsessed.",
"How awesome would it be if Sweet Baby Rays just ran this exact video as a commercial.",
"This is the correct answer. Season your meat well enough when you barbecue so that you don't need bbq sauce. Exceptions, in my opinion, are for burgers. Maybe certain sausages if you're eating it on a bun with other toppings.",
"This is the most retarded comment I've ever read. \n\n\nHave you ever been to California let alone a Walmart in California?\n\n\nCA may have some ghetto areas but there's pretty much none crazy enough to warrant 'If you're in Cali and see a Walmart gtfo you're in the deep ghetto'\n\n\nListen bud, nothings gonna happen to you when you see a Walmart in California.",
"Going to get a lot of hate for this, but 95% of redditors would act way more awkward than he does being in his position. How many of you like presenting in front of people?",
"That is one of the most Shameless plugs for product placement that I've ever seen. If the Zuckerberg is plugging Sweet Baby Ray's oh, he must know that stuff is going down",
"Yes, there's nothing like a unit of carbonized protein and a nice cold human alcohol beer.",
"Food Lotion",
"I knew what this video was going to be before I clicked it :)",
"It goes great with Smoked Meats",
"Yes this is pork",
"..but you DID click it. \n\n\nhttps://tenor.com/ueCB.gif",
"Cane sugar? I'm almost positive they go with high fructose corn syrup. All the cheaper BBQ sauces do.",
"I give this man the benefit of the doubt, he's socially awkward and that sucks to deal with.\n\nNow, his business practices are not excused. But his love for Sweet Baby Rays is.",
"This is so awkward.",
"Weirdest goddamn person. It's like he's trying to act how a human would act if they were hiding the fact that they're an alien even though he is an alien.",
"He's uncomfortable at all times.",
"Someone should make a movie in which a gang of mystery solvers investigate the possibility that Mark Zuckerberg is not himself. They discover that Mark used to be normal. A normal 20-something. But at some point between the creation of Facebook and the IPO, Mark changed. He became possessed by someone or something that wants to dominate the world. The Monopoly Man. The gang needs to free this demon from Mark's body and the way they do that is by first becoming Facebook employees close to Mark. While at Facebook, they research the entity possessing Mark and find that Mark can become free by a complicated ritual involving BBQs and booster seats. When the ritual is performed, the entity drifts off looking for a new host, and what is left is just an empty human skin. It turns out the original Mark is gone, and had been gone for a long time, his soul having been replaced by the possessing entity over the course of many years. Despite leaving behind Mark's skin, it is never reported by police. The world only knows that the CEO of Facebook Inc. has gone missing, just completely vanished with no clues as to his whereabouts. Time passes, the world moves on from a strange event, but Facebook doesn't change. Someone else rose to become CEO. And in the last scene of the movie, that new CEO is seen speaking on TV about the anniversary of the disappearance of Mark, and for a brief moment their eyes glow red. Fin.",
"I wonder why he kept asking the audience whether they were gonna watch the presidential debate or not. It seems like he was really interested in the role Facebook could play in politics even back then. Or maybe I'm reading too much into it.",
"Check out Dinosaur BBQ, the NE can do a few things right.",
"I watched the part at 0:20 for 15 minutes now. it gets funnier everytime.........\"meat fibers\"",
"APPLY THE MEAT LOTION",
"This is a Masterclass in video editing.",
"Yeah we shouldnt make fun of the objectively weird guy who amassed staggeribg wealth unleashing a website that has profitted from and helped spread misinformstion and social discord across the fucking globe.\n\nLet's ease up on this poor sociopathic billionare that has monopolized social media.",
"It’s like really good CGI with a terrible script.",
"Wow that hilarious.",
"This is exactly why i find it so weird. Its either an obvious ploy to seem normal or he just grew up with shit taste and still has normal kind of cravings for that moment when no one gave a shit what he did. \nIts a conundrum inside of pandoras box sitting on a shelf behind the character Data from Star Trek: The Next Generation. And for some reason theres BBQ sauce in there.",
"> good entrepreneur\n\n*no soul confirmed*",
"Zuck cluck and fuck",
"At least 118 people that upvoted this post saw a still yesterday from zucks last video where he bbq sauce as a bookend on a shelf behind him. The biggest question is if it was planted there as part of the shot, or just thats where he keeps bbq sauce. Either of those answers is quite strange honestly. Hence the buzz.",
"Sweet Baby Ray’s is the vanilla of the BBQ sauce world. Might as well rub some ketchup on your chicken. I’m a Stubb’s man.",
"Literally a prop",
"Same thought popped up in my mind but when I realized just how absurdly rich he is and how small of a portion the entire market cap of the company that makes sweet baby rays sauce is, this isn't what's going on.",
"Yeah no, this guy deserves nothing but vehement loathing from every other human being on the planet. He's socially awkward because he fundamentally lacks aspects of what it is to be a human being capable of forming empathetic relationships with others. God took this one out of the oven too early.",
"Nothing beats ketchup on a well done steak!",
"it's called food lotion get it right",
">Going to get a lot of hate for this\n\nBeing more awkward/bad than this video is physically impossible. I mean, you would actually be violating certain laws of physics if you were more awkward/alien than this. This is the relativistic limit.",
"Homemade BBQ sauce is the best. I made one recently with chipotles, añejo tequila, and a little bit of vanilla extract. Real sweet and smoky on top of the usual tangy flavor, it was insane.",
"You describe aspergers.",
"[ **Jump to 00:20 @** Grill Talk with Mark Zuckerberg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M930FDIaSLA&t=0h0m20s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: u m a m i, Video Popularity: 99.30%, Video Length: [02:40])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@00:15](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M930FDIaSLA&t=0h0m15s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)",
"I make like 45k a year, I never understand how the richest people on the planet have zero social skills. Did I choose the best life? Happily married and comfortable and not fucking weird?",
"No, the biggest question is still, \"Why does anyone care?\"",
">BBQ sauce is stupid easy to make\n\nCame here to say this. If you have any smoked paprika in your pantry, it'll turn almost anything \"bbq flavor\" pretty quick. And making bbq rub is just as easy, too.",
"It's a plug for his mistress.",
"What's with all this bbq sauce bullshit with this greedy human? Is it an attempt to humanize him? OMG zUcK LiKeS noRmAL hUmAn FoOd LikE I DO! Fucksake.",
"Pretty sure he’s more obsessed with us. He literally wants to know every facet of our lives.",
"I don't mind a bit of sweet in my Barbeque Sauce but it needs to be balanced with spice and tanginess. Sweet Baby Rays just reminds me of shitty pulled pork sandwiches that tastes like sugar...",
"Whenever you have a weird conspiracy theory like \"What if Mark Zuckerberg was replaced by a robot?\", you have to ask who would benefit from such a costly endeavor as making and sustaining a cutting edge humanoid robot. \n\nWho would benefit in a country with the Patriot Act from taking over the body of someone who runs a company that collects data on its millions of users? Who would benefit from a system that propagates misinformation campaigns? Who would benefit from sowing unrest and extremism around the world? \n\nIf you can't find a person or group in power that would benefit from that conspiracy theory, it's probably bogus and should be completely discredited.",
"Stubb's is pretty solid and can be found in most grocery stores.",
"Funny thing about so many of these tech billionaires. Jobs, Musk, Zuck, Gates. None of them really act like real people. They're all just kind of weirdos. Maybe that's what it takes. Finding out Gates was cheating on his wife and trying to bang secretaries was the most human thing I ever think he's done.",
"His presentation was full of digs against himself, but it's so obvious he didn't write them. Just a kinda lame attempt to appeal to the regular person.",
"Guy looks so unhealthy. Its like he went through lots of huge emotions like becoming a billionaire and success and people acting weird and ultimately none of it is processed properly.",
"brisket and baby back ribs",
"Is that jackie daytona.",
"This is what happens to some ultra rich people trying to act like they aren't rich and just normal, like the average person grounded in \"not rich people\" reality. \n\nI hope that makes sense cause I'm at a 8 right now",
"Sounds good.",
"That's just completely medically incorrect, sorry.",
"This is exactly how I would expect a cyborg to act. Sweet Baby Rays yea, humans like that I’ll go with it.",
"[It's going to be delicious](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeemJlrNx2Q).",
"To be fair though, I've literally had this stuff on my Amazon subscription for ages now.\n\nIt is the best BBQ sauce I've ever had.",
"I live in Sacramento and I can say that Walmarts do in fact reside in shitty areas. I can also say that Walmarts do in fact also reside in non-shitty areas.\n\nIn the general Sacramento area, there are over 10 Walmart stores, the chance any of them are in a bad neighborhood, isn't terrible.\n\nI know the one off Florin Rd is in a pretty shit neighborhood. Same with the one on Folsom Blvd in Rancho Cordova. \n\nI just came back from a trip to Reno last week and they had a Walmart a couple blocks away from probably the best hotel (GSR) in the area, but in general Reno is kind of a shit neighborhood if not entire city, so can't really say which way I'd go on that one.",
"Amazon",
"\"it tastes good but\"\n\nI'll stop you right there. It's BBQ sauce. Isn't that all that matters?\n\nI'm not looking for a health smoothie on my full rack of ribs",
"[Mark gimme the ZUCCCCCC](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzDd9cT_2UE)",
"I’m curious what the difference actually is",
"The sad thing about this whole smoking thing.\n\nAnyone who knows anything about BBQ would tell you to do the brisket on the Big Green Egg and ribs on the stickburner. \n\nThe BGE holds temp with little fuel for 12+ to 24 hour cooks. Which is what you need for a low and slow brisket. \n\nStick burners gobble up alot of fuel and require a fair amount of TLC to keep them at temp. Managing one over a 12 hour span requires alot of attention and fuel.\n\nDon't get me started that on the white smoke coming out, you need pale almost invisible blue smoke. This guy looks like hes trying to elect the pope.\n\nFucking poser.",
"Its diabetes in a bottle.",
"\"Put the lotion on the cutlet!\"",
"sweet baby Ray's",
"> I smoke meat quite a bit.\n\nSmoking those meats",
"Gatekeeping my shmeats",
"Sweet baby Jesus",
"i like how everyone is all about muh inclusive and muh against discrimination but shitting on a white autist is a ok",
"If you can get a similar or even better taste with better ingredients, why wouldn't you want to be open to that?",
"No offense that sounds like you have fox news brain where youre supplanting one piece of logic like motive, with a movable goal post. when you're basically asking why does war exist? Or how do regimes stay in power? I mean the robot thing sure. But everything else you said has been going on since the pyramids.",
"When I realized how much sugar (HFCS) is in SBR, I switched to Stubb's Original, with one-third the sugar.",
"Found the Meta Inc. Shill!",
"\\*alien",
"I live in a state of panic.",
"Pepper it with dirt like a man.",
"Natural ingredients would taste better",
"That's my point, I only care about taste",
"I couldn’t imagine a worse endorsement. Someone there at corporate has to be scrambling.",
"I don’t think clinical psychologists or psychiatrists diagnose people as sociopaths- it’s more of a group of symptoms that usually pertain to some personality disorders iirc, not completely sure.",
"So meta.",
"I've never seen someone try so hard to be something they aren't 🤣",
"Yeah I think he is just somewhat self aware of how odd his meat smoking video was and he is just having some fun by putting the sauce in the shot.",
"Homie was not granted the gift of charm. \n\nHe makes Jeff Bezos look like Robert Downy Jr.",
"That's an odd way to spell lizard person, but whatever.",
"He's at this point just flaunting how powerful of a platform he's created and how easily manipulated all of us are.\n\nHe literally got everyone to talk non-stop about a particular BBQ sauce for days now...",
"I have been seeing sweet baby rays everywhere for the last week. What the fuck is going on? I'm not convinced life is not a simulation.",
"You guys are weird. It’s not an ad, but you all turned it into one didn’t you. And the skin thing is even weirder, and not really that funny. Weirdos.",
"What a fuckin weirdo... he's clearly the product of everyone in his adult life having sucked up to him every minute of every day for the last 15 years.",
"Everett and Jones my friend",
"People can’t just be people anymore if their rich I guess. I doubt PR has anything to do with a successful nerdy guy being awkward on his live post. You guys look at nothing and make a whole book case of bullshit up about a guy to make yourselves feel better, it’s weird.",
"Don't pretend there isn't more to him than just being autistic.",
"Smokin the Meats!",
"I wasn’t.",
"Or the guy was just doing a live post.. You guys really imagine a lot of stuff rich people do when in reality you don’t realize how much they dont actually give a shit about that stuff, they already made it, why would they care about how you see them lol.But I guess only hot takes are allowed here.",
"he just has autism, calm down dude. You're acting like he's an alien.",
"Does he? Or are you just assuming?\n\nBesides - the person who is actively invading peoples privacy and had once referred to the users who trust him as \"because they 'trust' me lol. Idiots\"\n\nI don't care what he is - he is not immune from ridicule and he's a fucking lizard.",
"That makes sense, enjoy the high fam",
"Thanks man! That's so nice",
"He has a private island in hawaii.",
"He’s trying to meme like Musk",
"There's tons of people that are good at art but socially inept",
"I honestly got the vibe the dude was just to put a human side forward, want to smoke some meats, and just went with what a lot of first timers would do. His lizard brain probably didn't realize using such cheap sauce was akin to making a stew out Dinty Moore. That being said the Smokin hobby is hyper critical of every part of the process and is quick to shit on others.",
"Mustard and horseradish?",
"They are doing exactly what they intended. All these memes and videos are being posted by the PR team to distract everyone from the studies saying Facebook is cancer. They're shifting the focus to Zuckerberg instead of the Real bad press.",
"In all fairness to Mark, we’re not all born to comfortably converse with, like, the whole world when you speak.",
"how else can you explain his lack of emotion, his lack of understanding and engagement with social norms and customs, and lack of understanding simple insinuations that aren't meant to be taken literal, like his 60 minutes interview is full of?",
"Nah that's not whats going on. You're thinking like a normal person. Try to think more like a lizard person",
"This puppet of a man looks like a pedophile",
"His stupid face lmao",
"Nothing says relatable like a condiment in your refrigerator.",
"As a fellow human also enjoy the Sweet Baby Ray's Food Lotion.",
"this zuckerberg circlejerk on reddit is just ridiculous.",
"It is. You have to follow the clues to see. When you start noticing them that’s basically an entrance to the “rabbit hole,” but most people ignore them and never see.",
"Sweet baby rays is good...but have you had Stubbs bbq sauce? SOOO GOOD.",
"Reminds me of this copy pasta when FB went down\n\nHey everyone, facebook insider here. I was at headquarters when it went down. Let me give you the inside scoop.\n\nMark Zuckerburg was BBQing some smoked meats inside his office when someone told him the news about the whistleblower. He panicked ran out of his office, then his pants fell down and he tripped, and on the way down pulled down someone else's pants. And then that person fell down, and on the way down, pulled down someone's pants. And then that person pulled down someone's pants. And there was a pants down chain reaction which ultimately reached their server devs.\n\nThen, Emily Chang from Bloomburg technology and her filming camera crew reached Mark Zuckerburg for her scheduled interview.\n\nWith the broadcast live and Mark Zuckerburg caught with his pants down, his assistant handed him a phone, it was Eduardo Saverin.\n\nTurns out he purchased 3PL, a belt logistics company that supples belt prongs to belt manufacturers including the Etriviere by Hermes, Mark's favorite belt. Eduardo threatened to CEO of 3PL to send faulty prongs to Hermes, which made their way to Mark's belt, which snapped the second he put 3 Ns of torque when he panicked about the whistle blower news.\n\nEduardo planned the whole thing. And it was all worth seeing the look on Mark's face as his servers went down the second time.\n\nAll fashion companies cut ties to 3PL and Eduardo took a 50 million dollar loss, but it was all worth it.\n\nEdit:\n\nContext\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ6ZlRnS40s&feature=youtu.be",
"he's a tech bro. just because he's surrounded by hundreds of billions of dollars all of a sudden, doesn't all of a sudden make him a better person. i went to school with a few dozen people like him. \n\nso he started a website that made him a shit ton of money being able to target people with ads based on their demographics.\n\nhe probably likes shitty music and has shitty flipflops too.",
">If you can't find a person or group in power that would benefit from that conspiracy theory, it's probably bogus and should be completely discredited.\n\nJust because you can't find it doesn't mean it's not there. Debunking means proving that it's impossible, not just trying something sort of similar and failing.",
"kinky",
"Maybe that's what we're all missing. The real Zuck died years ago, and Facebook is making this change as a cover story when Zuck soon announces that he will make all appearances as the virtual version of himself.",
"Where do I enter the sweet baby rays rabbit hole",
"He looks like he’s about to start weeping at any moment between those fake smiles.",
"I've never seen a smokestack on that side before",
"Lmao the zuck hate is cringe. The wealthy are raping our planet and people for every last dollar but zuckerberg exists and every last projected nerd hate comes out on one guy.\n\n Stfu my god. \n\nAlso the vr/ar space is going to explode in the next 10 years due to recent technological breakthroughs regarding foveated rendering. Meta bought Oculus in 2014 and they sold at least 5 million headsets of the Quest 2 since q1 2021.",
"Exactly.",
"I feel weird inside seeing this.",
"This seems to be an older version of the firmware, emotions are pretty poorly implemented.",
"Sociopathic pathological liar",
"I'd also like to take this opportunity to express my fondness for that particular beer.",
"I bet he could list all the ingredients off the back too, and I mean ALL of them even the weird funny sounding ones.",
"This. I always laugh when peeps make fun of Ketchup for being low brow but rave about some designer bbq sauce. Like bitch it's just Ketchup and liquid smoke",
"And those eyes. Black eyes, like a doll's eyes.",
"He just looks totally anxious if you ask me. I’d be too if I was live-streaming, and was ceo of one of the most well known companies in the world. \n\nThis is edited to be even weirder than the original. But even still, it’s good to see that Zuck isn’t actually a complete robot. \n\nGuy has allowed/encouraged terrible things on his platform though. So fuck him",
">I make like 45k a year, I never understand how the richest people on the planet have zero social skills. Did I choose the best life? Happily married and comfortable and not fucking weird? \n \nDepends. How big is your yacht?",
"I like to think of [this](https://youtu.be/yGhUWIqNDG8) when see Zuck.\nJust replace the words Sugar with Sweet Baby Rays and water with pork.",
"Sweet baby Reyes?",
"I'm kinda convinced that his whole appearance in the presentation was just a custom photoreal avatar.",
"Nothing against Sweet Baby Ray’s, but if you say you’re really into smoking meats and you use Sweet Baby Ray’s, you’re not really into smoking meats.",
"I love the BRAND NEW still creased green chairs that were bought for this occasion and will be thrown away immediately afterward. I'm no billionaire, but even I have more comfortable yard furniture than that, what the fuck is this set-up? No offense to folding chairs, but you own that house, buy real furniture.",
"A cyborg lizard person",
"Pull the sweet baby rays on the shelf toward you, and the sweet baby rays lair opens up.",
"Like he has spent his entire life trying to hide from everyone that he is having a really bad mushroom trip.",
"Don't say \"cutlet\"; say \"flesh\".\n\n\"I like to put the lotion on the flesh.\"",
"You mean like, *on* humans or that humans enjoy?\n\n\nYes.",
"So he gets a free pass to treat people however he wants and be an advocate for misinformation?",
"A bottle of sauce on a book shelf turns out to provide quite the distraction",
"You know you're allowed to hate a person but also admit that their behavior could be attributed to autism? These are mutually exclusive statements.",
"A guy who is death calls his new company Meta, which is literally death in hebrew",
"He is not 100% human",
"HAHAHA. Holy shit. This is it. You've hit the nail on the head",
"Most likely he has Asperger's (high functional autistic) which is why he has poor social skills and these weird expressions. Aspies really find it hard to understand social norms and they have to try a lot to imitate the social skills of neuro-typical people, which is probably what we see in those videos. My son has Asperger's too and I'm sort of sympathetic to Zucc's social awkwardness, I have other much more fundamental problems with what his company is doing.",
"I also put Sweet Baby Ray's \"down there\" for health.",
"It's a way to appeal to the masses.\n\n\"See? Like you, I too form attachments to inexpensive and popular condiments! Use my platform to broadcast to the world your banal day-to-day, as I have.\"",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M930FDIaSLA",
"So what are you talking about? I'm currently hating on him.\n\nYou don't seem to understand that I don't give a shit why he behaves the way he does, I'll make fun of him for that and anything I want simply because he's a cruel, heartless and horrible person.",
">Hello? He changed the name of his company the day the BBQ post went up. \n\nBut the bbq vid came out years ago my guy:\n\nhttps://www.ceros.com/inspire/originals/mark-zuckerberg-robot-facebook-live-bbq-wife/",
"Sweet baby rays is good and all but it's also the equivalent of Morton's salt. No reason to get all excited about it.",
"Lol!",
"This is the way",
"Ray Bog’s Carpet World!",
"Are you doing Jaws?",
"Its his safe word.",
"They showed the guy at the end being CG, but I think Zuck's house was fake the entire time too. Nvidia did it already, now Meta.",
"~~condiment~~\n\n*food lotion.",
"But most of us who can’t are at least self aware enough to realize CEO of a billion dollar corporation might not be the best personality fit for our skill set",
"I hear she's a pig.",
"No, not that kind of... nvm",
"The sauce must flow.",
"Pulled pork mixed with SBR is fuckin god tier, these mfs probably talking about brisket and shit",
"He's such an alien. Who else on this planet can actually relate to him?",
"Really weird seeing an alien pretend to be a human....",
"Dude has never been shopping in a normal store once in the past decade or so. He probably orders everything off Amazon (heh heh - kidding)...\n\nNo this was probably planned out either by some marketing intern to make him look more normal or to promote Sweet Baby Rays.\n\nRemember there are people who claim the infamous Michael Jackson 'shopping video' wasn't fake or embellished because MJ was so huge, rich and popular it wasn't safe for him to go shopping. If you look at this through that same lens... this would be like Michael Jacksons boss trying to look normal in public.",
"Fucking christ, whenever I see this man it drops me right in the middle of the uncanny valley.",
"You gotta pay the troll toll to get into this sweet baby's hole.",
"Based and Samsara-pilled",
"Shot is gross. Carolina style or a decent rub all the way. Take your ketchup based sauces and stick them up your ass.",
"I would guess he paid some guy 10k to find any everyman barbecue sauce and the dude grabbed this from his pantry.",
"I love it on ribs/brats/drumsticks but I'd never put it on anything that's slow smoked, even near the end of the cook.",
"Leave the dolls alone, whydontcha. That's what I always...say...",
"Why does Zuckerbergs back yard look so improbably middle class?",
"Doesn’t seem to be liven until he bites you",
"I feel bad kind of bad he get a lot of criticism over for his appearance and behavior given that's not really something people have control over. But I also get the criticism comes more from being a controversial billionaire who isn't exactly thought of fondly.",
"This is how I read it.\n\nThe man got famous and rich before he really got to experience life. He made facebook early in college and that has been his life ever sense. Does he have any friends? Or a social life? How can you make new friends when you are Mark Zuckerberg? Seriously. How does he know they are actually his friend? Also, anyone who talks about him online only does so in a negative manner.\n\nImagine seeing your name spoken by strangers on a regular basis and every bit of it was bad. The media talks bad about him, politicians talk bad about him, everyone else talks bad about him.\n\nHe's rich as fuck, but lives a hollow life I'd imagine. Which is probably why he keeps bringing up Sweet Baby Rays. His life is so incredible boring that when it comes to describing it, he is forced to reach at the bottom of the barrel for small talk, bring up anything that catches the eye. I feel sorry for him really.",
"Social skills ain't easy to acquire if your inherent personality is awkward.",
"Quit giving this cuck views. Fuck Zucc",
"He's a dick. Fuck him. That's all that I can muster.",
"Feeling sorry for him was the most surprising part. Completely out of touch. The only thing I could really comprehend comparing it to is a modern day messiah. I despise celebrity idolisation. But that doesn’t mean I have the slightest clue what it’s like at the other end. \n\nThe way you described him being overly analytical about his friends, I would imagine this would eventually intrude into his close family life. His wife, his relatives. Do they only like me because I’m M.Z.? \n\nThe part about strangers resonates though. These people have never spoken to him. Yet talk about him for hours, write news paper articles & blog posts, campaign against him and his company at rallies. Weird dynamic if you ask me. \n\nThe most ironic thing about it is that now everyone sees the social damage Facebook has done to the world. How much social damage has been done to Zuck?",
"Bone suckin sauce is pretty good. Or make your own.\n\nThis is a great recipe\n\nhttps://amazingribs.com/tested-recipes/barbecue-sauce-recipes/kc-classic-bbq-sauce-recipe/",
"Why the fuck are people giving that stupid bbq sauce bottle that much attention ? Who gives a fuck how many he has and how he use it… it’s so fuckin pathetic, trying to rip this thing appart and blow it out of reasonable proportion jfc",
"None of this matters. Every other person I know likes to BBQ.",
"Wait was the MJ shopping video fake/embellished? Or am I reading your comment wrong?",
"[Does he know?!](https://youtu.be/hH5P1eCfptQ)",
"I only know of 2 vids where MJ is shopping and they are both real. One in a fancy ass store in a mall and the other a grocery store. The first has a fuck ton of people swarming the store and being blocked out while the grocery store one was set up by his friend who owned the chain so he could experience what it was like to ship normally. His friends and personnel were the other shoppers and most acted like they didn't know him.",
"we grow our own humans so it is actually our own skin thank you very much",
"9 out of 10 carbon-based life forms agree: Sweet Baby Rays is food!",
"Well I'm convinced, that man is definitely 100% human.",
"It's not a simulation, but... I may be in on the conspiracy",
"Plus like most coders, he's likely introverted.",
"Really depends on how horrible of a human being he is. I for one think he is a horrible human being.",
"I think I was spoiled. Grew up poor with a happy family.",
"He looks like he’s going to slather me in sweet baby ray’s and enjoy my human meats",
"It was. The store was closed down an all the other shoppers were friends and workers of Michael Jackson.",
"Not the best barbecue sauce but good enough if it's the best you can find.",
"\"I'm rich, bitch!! Do what I want!\"",
"Literally said if you can get a better taste with better ingredients. How the hell do you read that as \"no impact on the taste\"?",
"This was my first thought. This stilted speech pattern seems to exist in lots of super uptight rich folk because communicating with others it not about emotional expression, but pretense. The documentary BORN RICH is a good example.",
"Right, which is why I said you should be open to trying something with better ingredients, because it's going to have a better taste. Not sure what's so hard to understand about that. It's cooking 101. \n\nLike Mac and Cheese for example, it's going to be much better made from scratch than buying a box version. However, buying box can be justified for the ease you get from it. With BBQ sauce you don't have that excuse really, because all you need to do is buy a different jar of BBQ sauce. The effort of buying something better is the exact same as buying Sweet Baby Ray's.",
"Maybe I'm still missing something, I'm aware that there is the video where his friends rented a grocerystore for him to experience.\n\nWas the embellished part that he needed to have his friend rent a spot for him to feel normal or that the fact it happened at all a publicity stunt?",
"He knew.",
"Maybe, but more likely, he gets that he’s got meme juice from that live stream and having that bottle there has created content around an event I wasn’t even aware of until the “BBQ sauce” posts hit the cycle",
"I'm on a 30 day suspension for saying \"Mr. Big-brain\"",
"Engineers bro. Some of my best friends are engineers for the top tech companies and defense contractors and. They're obviously super smart and hard workers but awkward as fuck lol. One of them said \"I'm paid to build shit, not make small talk.\"",
"This man seems unwell.",
"//run:_smoked_meats.exe",
"Funnily enough Zuckerberg has hurt a lot more people than Jaws ever could.",
"Dont feel sorry for him. He's an absolute piece of shit and deserves every bit of hate he gets.",
"Nope. That dude sucks.",
"Could this guy be any fucking weirder? Seriously. The robot joke is funny and all, but he really is fucking strange without exaggerating.",
"What's wrong with his eyes? They're dead eyes, like a shark.",
"Yup I wasn't really curious why a lizard man likes BBQ sauce",
"We're going to need a bigger gravy boat filled with Sweet Baby Rays BBQ Sauce.",
"He just doesn't have that much to talk about so it's a safe thing to reference. He just does it too much due to awkwardness.",
"Definitely could be product placement. Maybe this one wasn't a huge deal on it's own but a hint to companies that they could use this new medium as a vehicle?- Hey look how we're all just hanging out and- \"oh silly me I left my 3D White Colgate toothpaste out again! I sure do love how white it makes my teeth and that fresh feeling it gives me\". Does he even mention other bbq sauces in the stream? KC masterpiece, gates, Arthur Bryant?",
"Zuckerberg is no human",
"Same reason he does anything: He's a sociopath.",
"James Carville comes to mind.",
"Hi is creepy.",
"Honestly,he looks like an android. Weird.",
"no, he’s just being weird",
"Sweet baby Ray's barbeque sauce",
"He's a Zuck. New species.",
"Almost human like",
"It's thought that people who grow up poor often end up with good social skills out of necessity. Both parents work, kids is babysat among other kids, kid needs to find their own way through life because the parents aren't around or can't provide much, etc.",
"But all of those have really obvious answers.",
"what does lying have to do with what i just listed? And someone being sociopathic doesn't mean they are unable to read social cues.",
"I never said he got a free pass idiot.",
"His eyes have seen some shit",
"who made you commando comedy captain makin the funny rules 'round here?",
"Let's just say he doesn't *not* have financial stake in Sweet Baby Ray's.",
"don't you think that's a little strong?",
"I too like the industry standard BBQ sauce sweet baby Ray's.",
"I mean, you can definitely have a lot more control over those things when you’re one of the richest people in the world. You can afford the best stylists and personal trainers in the world.\n\nThat’s the thing about it. When you become that wealthy, having bad style and no personality is a way of flexing. Like “yeah I look like I’ve been sleeping in an alleyway, but I own Twitter and nobody can tell me to take a shower” Jack Dorsey, or “Yeah my skin is orange from my obviously fake tan, and you can’t do a thing about it because I have no shame” Donald Trump.\n\nLike, look at [https://www.gettyimages.ca/photos/oakland-raiders-owner-mark-davis](this guy’s haircut) and keep in mind he’s worth $500,000,000. He knows what he’s doing, it’s called “fuck you” money.",
"All I see is someone mildly autistic who likes specificity.",
"[This](https://youtu.be/mftHSnHjhhQ?t=59) is probably relevant.",
">There’s no way he’s using some HFCS laden product\n\nhttps://youtu.be/mftHSnHjhhQ?t=59",
"You just asked for another explanation. A sociopathic pathological liar would certainly be capable of putting on the front you described.",
"But isn't Zuckerberg the worst mascotte for your bbq sauce the same time? 🤔",
"I already replace all my bottles of shampoo and shower gel with Sweet Baby Ray's",
"This is actually the most normal I've ever seen from him",
"No.",
"Sweet baby rays is code for world domination.",
"Unpopular opinion: Zuckerberg knows he's socially awkward and is playing into it for the lols. Sometimes using a bug in the programming as a feature is the better solution.",
"Yeah that's what I am thinking.",
"I am honestly not sure on this. I have seen it said both ways.\n\nMy general leaning is that it was at least slightly embellished... or intentionally designed to make it look like he \"couldn't even go shopping\" because he was too famous.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRnCX-8hA4A\n\nThere are videos of him going shopping and he has security sure, but it's fairly normal. He also talks about the things he likes to buy etc...",
"Is this the mall one you mean?\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRnCX-8hA4A\n\nWhere he visits his \"favorite store\"? How exactly does one get a favorite store without being able to go shopping? Idk - I really tend to believe the mall one was embellished... but I will be honest in saying I'm not totally sure.\n\nHaving seen both, the other looks to me like a publicity stunt... mostly because he had done similar stunts before that everyone \"fell for\".",
"Hes got the smile of someone who would steal your data and sell it off to the highest bidder, then tell everyone he doesn't do it - but in fact, yes, he most certainly does. Anyone else feel the same? LMS if so. \n\n\nEdit: thanks for the reddit gold. \n\n\nEdit: OMG I didnt know this would blow up like it did. \n\n\nEdit: Its now 6pm and I am eating my sweat baby rey msyterios, look who dat in the skye, msyterio here we go!",
"David Cameron nodded.",
"People who are exceptional in certain ways, tend to be exceptional in other ways too, but not all types of exceptional are advantages, and a lot of times where there are great strengths there are also great weaknesses. \n\nThink of like a racing game, where the car with the highest top speed will have terrible cornering, so your best option is usually the car with the best all around stats. \n\nZuckerberg might be off the charts in terms of Intelligence, or outside the box thinking, or whatever skills have gotten him to where he is, but he’s clearly also got exceptionally bad social skills. Good chance he has a fair bit of the old autism, but I can’t say for sure without a real exam.",
"> Who would benefit in a country with the Patriot Act from taking over the body of someone who runs a company that collects data on its millions of users?\n\nI mean, effectively anyone who can sell that data. It's worth a lot of money, and offers a lot of power towards governments and intelligence agencies.\n\n> Who would benefit from a system that propagates misinformation campaigns?\n\nAgain, anyone with a bone to grind. Misinformation can destabilize countries quite well, just look at the shitstorm in the US. \n\n>Who would benefit from sowing unrest and extremism around the world?\n\nThose that use unrest and extremism to make money, gain more power, or push their ideals. Some see a tragedy, others see an opportunity.\n\n>If you can't find a person or group in power that would benefit from that conspiracy theory, it's probably bogus and should be completely discredited.\n\nLuckily in this case there's countless people who could benefit from such things, so the list is quite large from the beginning. Even your average person could benefit from having that data, even if they got ripped off and sold it to some random broker, they'd still make a killing.",
"It’s delicious BBQ sauce… that’s it\n\nI’d also highly recommend their sweet chili sauce on breaded chicken cutlets",
"No, not at all. He's a monster. Why should I feel sympathy for someone who has willfully hurt people?",
"What do you mean without being able to shop? He is doing it in that video. They close down the store for him. He can't shop like a normal person. He's still allowed to shop lmao. That's the whole point in shutting down a grocery store to fill it with actors/friends.",
"That’s really sweet actually.",
"[How To Cook Humans](https://youtu.be/2ukozdxgg8Q?t=125)",
"The one where the grocery store is often portrayed as \"oh look he's so famous he can't shop...\". He shopped fairly often, and a few videos have come out of it - normally when he did it though, it was as a publicity event. He generally had security yes. The closing down the mall thing was a publicity stunt. You know what doesn't happen to anyone when they go shopping? People don't follow them around with cameras.",
"Lol they're from a documentary.. of course there's cameras. And he was so famous he couldn't shop. He can only do it alone when they close stores. That's literally the whole point in the grocery store.",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGG2L8QTJEM",
"> that the fact it happened at all a publicity stunt\n\ni would expect a publicity stunt. i mean realistically even if you were just fucking around with your friends. would you want something like that recorded?",
"Why would they? If they're not autistic then you're telling me they're doing it deliberately? Why would he act like a retard on purpose?",
"... Seriously?",
"That wasn't how I meant that but your interpretation is reasonable. My bad.\n\nEdit: I ___ a word.",
"Yeah?",
"how has he willfully hurt people?",
"Have you not been following the news?",
"Oh haha its so random. Isnt this huge media empire random and quirky? \nTotally not evel they just want to make fun memes.\nThats meta for you.\nOh meta so random.",
"i think there is fair criticism of how much facebook sucks, I quit myself in 2008 and never went back. I have seen less evidence that zuck is evil and willfully hurts people",
"So you missed the news where they pushed content that made people angry on purpose because those things generate more buzz then. Okay, well maybe read some news!\n\nAlso he's a billionaire so he's a bad person by default.",
"What's with the cheap ass $10 camping chairs. This video is fake as f\\*ck.",
"It has corn syrup which is a no no in my book. I'll still eat it though",
"I don’t see the big deal",
"Read the transcript of the Metaverse event here: https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/meta-facebook-connect-2021-metaverse-event-transcript",
"If your local grocery store is a Kroger or their parent company us Kroger, their store brands are at least diverse. \n\nNot as good as any sauce anyone who knows what they're doing can do but I've found some good options for bottled BBQ sauce."
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"Are we meant to feel sorry for this guy? Didn’t he stab a woman 16 times.",
"No but that guy seemed really sorry",
"Here come all the blood thirsty comments",
"Death penalty is barbaric even if the execution is humane. Its revolting the US still practices it. There is literally no argument pro death penalty except retribution.",
"> There is literally no argument pro death penalty except retribution\n\nwouldnt deterrence be the primary argument for it?",
"I think you should try and understand the opposing viewpoint. To say there are “literally no arguments pro death penalty besides retribution” is counter productive to your position.",
"If you're going to continue sentencing criminals to death, you also have to accept that some innocent people will by mistakenly killed along with them. There's an excellent podcast called 'Wrongful Convictions' ran by activists for the Innocence Project. It will quickly change anybodies mind on the death penalty.",
"Very grim stuff",
"And what’s wrong with that? He pulled a woman into a closet and stabbed her to death because he felt like it. Guy was a rabid animal who deserved to be put down.",
"If you're gonna execute someone just shoot em. Damn.",
"I studied criminology +-10 years ago and back then studies showed deterrence isn't a factor, even when it comes to the death penalty. I doubt it changed in the last decade. The idea of the cost-benefit analysis criminal is a fallacy.",
"I do and don't get me wrong, retribution is and should always be part of criminal law. But two wrongs don't make a right. And if retribution is the only focus of the punishment you get a society I wouldn't want to live in.\n\nIn my biased opinion a criminal law system focused on rehabilitation is much more preferable. There will always be cases of people who don't fit or can't rejoin society but even then, life in prison is preferable over the death penalty.",
"Life in prison is cheaper for the tax payer and make wrongful convictions less painful. What is the benefit of killing the killer? Won't bring the victim back to life.",
"Watch „The Life Of David Gale“ !",
"It doesn't seem to be a justified argument. \n \n\"Criminological research over several decades and in various nations generally concludes that enhancing the certainty of punishment produces a stronger deterrent effect than increasing the severity of punishment.\n \n\nThe Institute of Criminology at Cambridge University was commissioned by the British Home Office to conduct a review of research on major studies of deterrence. Their 1999 report concluded that “…the studies reviewed do not provide a basis for inferring that increasing the severity of sentences generally\nis capable of enhancing deterrent effects.”\n\nIn addition, in reviewing macrolevel studies that examine offense rates of a specific population, the researchers found than an increased likelihood (certainty) of apprehension and punishment was associated with declining crime rates.\n\nDaniel Nagin and Greg Pogarsky, leading scholars on deterrence, conclude that “punishment certainty is far more consistently found to deter crime than punishment severity, and the extra-legal consequences of crime seem at least as great a deterrent as the legal consequences.”\n\nhttps://www.sentencingproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Deterrence-in-Criminal-Justice.pdf",
"Why can't they just anesthetize a person? Render them unconscious the same way you do for surgery, and *then* administer the fatal drug concoction? Hell why not just give them a fatal overdose of morphine or something? \n\nEven if you are in favor of the death penalty, it seems like there are just better ways you could do it.",
"It’s a complex issue for sure.",
"That’s enough for me and most people",
"Some thing are worth the cost. To me it is just and right that he dies, evil should be punished.",
"The guy in the background looks like the brother of the guy talking",
"A state that evidently thinks murder is sometimes acceptable probably isn't going to be smart enough / care enough to pick out the least cruel killing method.",
"I had the same question and was told that the pharma companies that manufacture and sell drugs like propofol, refuse to sell them to agencies for these purposes.",
"Government: don’t kill people, ok? Cuz if you do, we’ll… kill you?",
"Started listening then realized that nope, I don't need to hear this",
"Execution by nitris oxide suffocation would be a far more humane way to execute a person than what we currently do to people. That said, state sanctioned executions will never be civilized acts.\n\nUnfortunately, the states that still continue to allow these acts fundamentally do not seem to care whether or not the executions are painless to the convicted. These acts are often coming from a place of malice and vengeance, not concern for the humanity of anyone involved. So long as incarceration continues to be founded on retribution, we're going to continue to see these kinds of things. \n\n\nThere live people who would see an event such as this one as a success, under the argument that witnessing such a thing will act as a deterrent to those who would commit crimes. Unfortunately, we know that no matter how horrible the punishment, the factors that lead to criminality are unaffected by the gross human suffering we inflict on the incarcerated and the condemned.",
"Are you happy with the fact that if you have the death penalty in a country, at some point an innocent person will be killed? It may take a while, but at some point an innocent person will be wrongly accused of a crime and get the death penalty.",
"Four problems with the death penalty:\n\n- As you correctly point out, there is a small percentage of people executed incorrectly for a crime, even after the 10-20 years you spend on death row in the US and after all the appeals, there are still wrongly executed people that turn up from time to time. In my thinking, depriving innocent people of their lives is just as (or more-so) morally repugnant than 'collateral damage' (killing civilians) in a war. \n\n- It's not a particularly good deterrent - as suggested by the US incarceration and execution rate compared to many other countries. The reasons people commit crimes are complicated and the death penalty does not stop most of them.\n\n- Normalising the death penalty sets a bad example for authoritarian regimes in other countries - the West can and should do better, we should be focussing on rehabilitative not retributive justice where we can. Of course there are some criminals who cannot be or refuse to be rehabilitated, and certainly many who should never be released, but it's still possible to contribute to society in a limited way from inside a supermax (or it should be, anyway). Darkness cannot drive out darkness. Only light can do that.\n\n- Final point that many forget - a state where the death penalty is in use allows, or even compels, civilians to kill on behalf of the state. We should not be granting anyone the power to stick a lethal injection into the arm of someone strapped to a gurney. Authorising someone to kill someone else is never a power we should grant casually - even in war, where at least the other side can defend themselves.\n\nWe (and by this I mean humanity) shouldn't be doing this. And particularly we shouldn't be doing this with weird concoctions of drugs that make these deaths so obviously cruel and unusual. Though even a firing squad or the electric chair aren't much better.",
"No. Developed Western countries don’t do either any more. It’s from another, more primitive era.",
"The best academic study we have found \n\n- 4% of executions are *confirmed* innocent people\n\n- statistical models predict the real number, then, is likely to be closer to 8%\n\n- in addition, nearly everyone executed is poorer than average, or a minority. Meaning many would receive a full life sentence if they were wealthy and white\n\nIt’s amazing anyone can shrug at that. Perhaps only psychopaths themselves.",
"I really couldn't care less how gruesome an execution is. If you've committed a crime with a sufficient level of disregard for the humanity of those around you, I don't think you should have any reason to expect that anyone extend the humanity you have denied others to you.\n\nSome people just don't need to be on this planet anymore.",
"Sounds like more than a good enough argument for me.",
"Slight “why can’t they just give slaves painkillers and Red Bulls” energy about these discussions. \n\nAbolition of this in the West happened mainly around the 1960s.",
"1. Interviews with victim family members years later usually find there was not much “power”, healing, or good feelings from this practice. \n\nWhat you’re perhaps thinking of is the (often faith or therapist based) “forgiving the person who has most harmed you” processes, which does lead to positive results for victims. \n\n2 Everyone serving life has been removed from the population. That’s what a prison is.",
"The studies I read showed *a negative deterrence* from it. \n\nMurderers were more likely to kill extra witnesses and LEOs, rather than peacefully surrender, if they knew the death penalty was likely.",
"About 1 in 12 times it happens, on average.",
"Fortunately we don’t let the least informed, most primitive members of society to make our other laws. \n\nImagine traffic lights and taxes based on no information, just anger.",
"The state doesn't care about the victim or the victim's family because the state doesn't care about *anyone*. The death penalty is not the state acting compassionately on behalf of the victim; the death penalty is about maintaining and expanding the state's power and nothing else. It is a public spectacle to make it look like the state is doing something about crime without investing the resources it would actually take to make a difference. \n\nIf the state cared about people, they would have universal healthcare, free education, and a right to food and housing. As it stands, death penalty states only take an interest in their citizen's lives when it decides to end them. John Grant is dead because he was deemed a threat to the authority of the state, not because the state wanted to comfort the family of his victims.",
"Killing people is always wrong.",
"Do you think he should be stabbed 16 times?",
"> closer to 8%\n\nThat's fucking insane. That's far too many people",
"Fully agree.",
"I feel like just one person is far too many.",
"This is Oklahoma we're talking about here, calling it \"developed\" is a bit generous.",
"I'd assume the same about punitive prison sentences in general. I don't have any source other than speculation, but I'm sure many murders only ever happened to cover up other crimes.",
"All you have to do is look at the wrongful executions to notice that the system that is supposed to 'presume innocence' really does like to sentence people to death on circumstantial evidence. I used to think that if you were sentenced to death they would have an airtight case of all the heinous crimes that were committed. Nope, it really can be as simple as a bad witness and some circumstantial evidence and biases.",
"Everyone has the potential to kill.",
"Excellent points, I'd like to tack on one more. It costs significantly more to execute an individual than to have them serve a life sentence. The only studies that have looked into this have been on the state level, I believe, so there is no more comprehensive data available. However, I do think that if it is true and we can't guarantee that no innocents will be murdered by the state then the death penalty is not a good idea.",
"yes",
"Yeah I feel so sorry for the this ass hat that stabbed a woman 16 times.",
"Killing to prove killing is wrong. Disgusting!",
"I think retributive justice is completely fine in extreme cases. If you're a brutal serial killer, you deserve to be killed and if my family member was killed it's certainly what I would want. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Rehabilitation should be an important part of the justice system, but it's not the only thing.\n\nI'm against the death penalty purely because we execute innocent people far too frequently.",
"ok hammurabi",
"> Render them unconscious the same way you do for surgery, and then administer the fatal drug concoction?\n\ni think that *sounds* humane, but at the same time, might it not be even worse than the alternative? \n\ni dont want to get into the debate about what death row inmates deserve regarding moral imperatives, but if it were me i would certainly want to be conscious for my last potential experience just in case that really has the finality that many people ascribe.",
"Personally I wouldnt want my country executing people when it has such a high rate of erroneous conviction.",
"My main gripe with the death penalty is that it seems to get handed out like candy these days.\n\nI think the bar should be a fairly high one. Murdering one person is pretty ho hum. \n\nIt should be reserved for especially gruesome, violent, serial offenders.\n\nThat would remove a lot of the wrongful conviction issues.\n\nIt's possible to be wrongly convicted of a murder.\n\nNot so likely to be wrongly convicted of seven.",
"Because no drug company would allow their drugs to be used to kill people. As it is, states have to find backdoor channels to get the drugs they need to kill people.",
"Sounds weird. Midazolam (Versed) is a benzodiazepine which acts similarly to alcohol, at effective doses induces sedation & respiratory suppression in less than a minute. Benzos are the first line drug for stopping seizures so it's odd that they describe him getting versed and then convulsing.\n\nPer wikipedia they usually use a three-drug cocktail. Sodium thiopental is first (I don't have much experience w/ barbiturates at all) for sedation, next is pancuronium (a paralytic), and then they bolus potassium to stop the heart. Pretty neat that they use potassium, we get a lot of sick patients in the ED with potassium that's too low or too high and it needs to be corrected b/c it causes changes in the heart's electrical conduction.\n\nedit - In summary it sounds like a very effective 1-2-3 how to kill someone fast with drugs. But you're right, thousands of people do it every day, accidentally, with opiates.",
"Ya I’m against death penalty for the innocent reasons but we need to have a work plan first before we switch over. It’s bullshit that we have to pay to house people for life because they decided to be assholes.",
"Tell me why the actual fuck they don't use carfentanyl.",
"Did the drug companies successfully lobby for lethal injection or something? \n\nBecause it's clearly one of the least humane ways they've executed people in the US.",
"I've read about the different ways people commit suicide. There's people that make death hoods. Basically a black bag that air can't escape that goes over the head. Then you pump helium into it. You wouldn't feel like you are suffocating and you breathe as normal. Then you go hypoxic and that might make you feel a little drunk. Then you simply black out. Seems like a pretty cheap human alternative. \n\nHere's a video from Smarter everyday on Hypoxia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUfF2MTnqAw",
">we shouldn't be doing this with weird concoctions of drugs that make these deaths so obviously cruel and unusual\n\nThe French solved it in the 1700's and everything since has been trying to make people with no stomach for the capital punishment they're inflicting feel better about it.",
"> There live people who would see an event such as this one as a success, under the argument that witnessing such a thing will act as a deterrent to those who would commit crimes.\n\nIf that's the case, may as well bring back the guillotine in public squares.",
"The purpose of posting this, is to show how inhumane it is to take a life, regardless of how justified you think the reasons are.",
"In the instance where a woman was brutally murdered, remember stab wounds aren’t like a quick shot to the head, it’s a bad way to go, slow painful and scary, sure why not?\n\nLike the marathon bomber, killed women and children, maimed many others, were talking instances of pure evil, I have no problem sitting that guy on the same type of device and offering the parent of the kid killed the remote.",
"Guy got off light in my opinion",
"I don't get why they seemingly do this in the most painful way possible. I know it's grim as fuck, but I'd take a firing line any day over the shit they're talking about here. It's like the point is cruelty.",
"Dumb way to do it. Zero rehab aspect in the whole thing. Guy will wake up in his next body with deep hatred and fueled with revenge. Then he'll become a crook who can't help it. Get pulled into it repeatedly. \n\nBest way would be to align his senses away from the crook patterns and into a more balanced normal one. Give the crook pleasant drugs and get a priest to tell him nice stories like forgiven and going to heaven and that kind of thing. Keep the guy in that heavenly daze for days and he basically forgets his old patterns. Continue with the nice narrative. Then pleasantly off him so the guy never knows he got killed. Then he moves into his next life with good patterns. And old dumb patterns effect him less. \n\nDoesn't apply to normal people. If someone lived a good satisfying life they should focus real hard on that when dying. lol. The way this execution is done now is entirely stupid. That mofo will remember the whole thing. As in his own instinct sentiment all of it. And he'll be worse in his next body.",
"As someone pointed out already, it's actually been shown to be even more expensive to execute than to incarcerate for life.",
"I would be on board with the death penalty, even the convulsions, if it could be proved beyond doubt that someone was guilty (only in instances with clear video evidence).\n\nIf we can’t get that right we shouldn’t be going down this road.",
"I’d rather people rightfully sentenced to the death penalty suffer, personally. A quick and easy death isn’t punishment enough for some people.",
"Context definitely does matter. I think park of natural humanity dictates that we collectively decide who and who should not be punished. Which- is akin morality.\n\nIs it right for an adult who murdered another adult to be executed? Reactions may be mixed.\n\nIs it right for a serial pedophile rapist/murderer who molested and killed multiple children and brags about it unabashedly to be executed? Doubt you'd find as many mixed reactions. \n\nHumanity isn't relegated to your belief in capital punishment. Punishment isn't murder, perse. Morality, technically, doesn't even exist. Nor is it concrete, it's always evolving. \n\nHumanity is the same thing. The world owes no one anything, nor is humanity some unspoken universal truth that humans must be kind, or *should* be.",
"Bring back the gallows. Rope is cheap, after a few tries the hangman will get the hang of it...",
"hmm, I wonder if his victim convulsed and vomited while he was stabbing them? Does anyone give a fuck about that? You kill someone, your death should be equally as horrific and painful.",
"There are plenty of county administrations that would be happy to I'm sure.",
"for real, what is this video even about? who gives a fuck if he vomited, he deserved to die.",
"how so? What about his victim that died horrifically by being stabbed 16 times. This death was fitting.",
"why does it cost more? are the drugs really that expensive? or is it the court cases too etc?",
"Keeping murderers alive on social welfare just so you can keep them locked in a box is inhumane.\n\nA just society with a foolproof execution method is more ethical. Too bad we don't have that.",
"so, lets say that anything you said is remotely plausible. Karma is a bitch, and this guy will have to work out his karma to find peace. But until then, it's going to be hell.",
"It’s just because we allow for exhaustive appeals",
"No, not the drugs. Death row inmates require separate housing in prison and demand almost constant monitoring because, believe it or not, the DOC is usually trying to prevent inmates from committing suicide.",
">Unfortunately, we know that no matter how horrible the punishment, the factors that lead to criminality are unaffected by the gross human suffering we inflict on the incarcerated and the condemned. \n \nYeah, I feel like there are two types who commit heinous acts: people who don't think about the consequences whatsoever, and people who don't care about the consequences whatsoever. \nNeither are deterred by harsh consequences.",
"Yeah, lots of people would like that",
"Wow America can we get description of the 650,000 plus that died during covid?? These murderous scumbags get this dignity? Don't be fooled world...",
"Unless its oxycontin.",
"Fair.",
"Yeah, when my pets have had to be euthanized, the first shot made them go unconscious peacefully over like 10 seconds and my cat even purred as she went out. Then the second shot stopped their heart and I never noticed them so much as twitch when it happened.",
"What if we were able to not execute innocent people anymore? Would that change a lot of opinions in the death penalty? This is usually the biggest reason that people are against the death penalty. But it isn’t really a problem with the death penalty itself, it’s a problem with the system.",
"That podcast is pretty rough. Lots of those “wrongfully convicted” guys are indeed criminals, they just might get charged with another crime that was incorrect in addition to their other crimes. Lots of them have criminal pasts as well.",
"The real question for those in favor of the death penalty: \"How many innocents are you willing to kill for the sake of executing the guilty? If that number is greater than zero, why execute the guilty for killing innocents when you permit executioners to kill innocents with impunity?\"",
"The real question for those in favor of the death penalty: \"How many innocents are you willing to kill for the sake of executing the guilty? If that number is greater than zero, why execute the guilty for killing innocents when you permit executioners to kill innocents with impunity?\"",
"> Then why don't we let the close family of the victims brutally murder the killer? Too barbaric? But only then would it be true retributive justice. Not this injection bullshit.\n\nI'd have no issues with letting family members pull the trigger, but I do think allowing direct torture is a step too far. Taking someone's life is the most you can take from them, that's what was taken from the victims. In a hypothetical world where we could use magic future super technology to force the perpetrator to go through exactly what they put the victim through, I'd be on board with that. But even if we could determine guilt or innocence with 100% accuracy, determining the amount of appropriate suffering to inflict in return is an order of magnitude more complicated. \n\n> I get the \"an eye for an eye\" statement but if you kill someone their life is over. They do not feel pain or regret anymore. If I were a victim or family of the victim I'd be livid that the murderer just...died and didn't suffer. Who is being punished then? How is this retributive justice since retributive means punishing the criminal?\n\nWhen you kill someone you take away everything they have and everything they're ever going to have, to steal a line from a great movie. It's done and it is final, with no possibility for them to find a happy and fulfilling life. I don't think betting on a murderer feeling regret (other than regret for being caught) is a good bet, and beyond that I don't really care if they do. \n\n> Let me put it this way. If I gave you 2 options, 1 is instantly cutting your arm off and 2 is slowly chipping at your arm everyday for the rest of your life until it falls off which would you choose? 2 is pure torture, 1 is quickly over.\n\nYou're making the assumption that living in prison must feel like torture when that simply isn't the case for everyone. If, however, that was the desire of the victims next of kin I wouldn't be opposed in principle. To me retributive justice is about empowering those who lost a loved one, letting them feel deep down in a visceral way that the scales have been balanced, even if that takes the death of the perpetrator.",
"The age of the method or developer ought not be a point against it. What's important is the efficacy and amount of unnecessary pain.",
"i think i read somewhere that killing someone is actually really expensive, with all the technicalities, witnesses, insurances, drugs, legal proceedings and paperwork, etc. Having them serve their life in prison would actually be cheaper.",
"Did anyone else notice the tweaker in a tuxedo in the background.",
"Not at all. They mostly refuse to even sell these places the drugs. They don’t want their “safe a d effective” drug to be used to kill people.",
"lol he is not gonna find peace. He'll be a dumb crook. The execution process is aiding that. Its not just execution. Incarceration is doing even more damage on the wide scale. There is dumb culture in jails and people learn to hate more and learn to be bigger crooks in this life and their subsequent lifetimes get fueled by the same patterns.",
"In addition, many of them are connected to Europe, where the death penalty is not only banned in all but one country (Belarus), but companies are obligated by law never to supply the means.\n\nThey'd rather just lose a very tiny client in the US than their licenses across a whole continent.",
"Fifth problem is, while sounding pretty heartless, it's extremely expensive for the American taxpayer. The nature of our appeals system designed to ensure that the wrongfully convicted aren't executed (which we know doesn't work) means that death penalty convictions can take decades to get to completion, all requiring taxpayer-paid legal defense as virtually no citizen on death row would have the funds to continue their defense for that long. Even life without parole is cheaper on the taxpayer. As I said, it's a bit cold-blooded, but you can't deny it can be a strong argument to folks who have issues with the morality of the state killing its citizens.",
"I’m vehemently anti death penalty, but I think it’s disingenuous to state that any video is going to change proponents’ minds. Most of them don’t give a shit. They’re hell bent on revenge, regardless of the carnage wrought in the process.\n\nBut you know, that’s not the subject of this thread, which is the agony that lethal injection exerts. It seems clear to me that pain and suffering are intended to be part of the punishment. It would be so easy to put people to death without any pain whatsoever. Have you ever had surgery that required anesthesia? You could put someone to sleep that way and then kill them any number of ways without them feeling a thing, if that’s what you were trying to achieve.\n\nAnd it just kills me, so to speak, that some people continue to believe, against all the evidence, that lethal injection as practiced in the United States provides a painless death. People frequently make that claim in forums discussing capital punishment. In one Reddit thread I observed recently, some idiot actually railed at lethal injection because it allegedly allowed the condemned to die while high on pleasurable drugs.",
"> 2 Removing someone from the population that has shown they will kill is not nothing.\n\nYou realize that's what a thing called prison is for, yes?",
"The point is that he suffered when he died, which, ironically enough, is exactly what both sides of the argument wanted you to hear in the video. Pro-DP's will say, \"good, he deserved to suffer like his victim.\" Anti-DP's will say, \"see how barbaric this process is?\" \n\nThere's no changing anyone's mind on this issue...this is pure confirmation bias, no matter what your position is.",
"If a prisoner commits suicide while under the care of the prison system…lawsuits happen.",
"Because people have humanity.",
"Idk, vomiting all over yourself and convulsing seems a bit more gruesome than a quick shot to the back of the head.",
"Retribution IS nothing, it's worse than nothing. It only puts blood on the victim's family. \n\nThere are better ways to remove someone from the population.",
">What if we were able to not execute innocent people anymore? \n\nPointless hypothetical. There is no legal system in the world that can guarantee a 100% guilty execution rate, even if the evidence appears cast-iron.\n\nThere are people who have been executed based on cast-iron DNA evidence which was later disproven.",
"Oh, a firing squad would be massively more humane than lethal injection as currently practiced. China executes more people than any country, but at least their method - a bullet to the back of the head - is pretty quick and free of suffering.\n\nEdit to add: I think the incidence of executing innocent people is more than just “small,” when you consider the moral implications of doing so. Would 1% be considered small? I wouldn’t consider that to be acceptable. But studies have suggested that the actual error rate is several times higher than that.",
"Is this some kind of sadist convention?",
"Well you can throw out clear video evidence too because that's fakeable",
"Wellllllll, not as frequently, and not with as great of success, as you might expect. Juries are typically not that sympathetic to the incarcerated and in most states, there are some substantial administrative roadblocks to suing a jail or prison.",
"For me, personally, executions are less of an issue of morality and more of practicality. Why kill the serial rapist/murderer? Killing them does nothing to prevent other offenders. Its been a while since I've studied this stuff, but when I was in school I read that harsher sentencing only meaningfully affected property crime rates, not violent crime rates. For violent crime, the certainty of being caught was a much stronger deterrent than the severity of punishment.\n\nMy suggestion is instead of just killing these people and essentially wasting all potential they might have to prevent future offenders, why not study them and work on new strategies for prevention? Maybe we can figure out a way to identify people at risk of becoming serial killers before they offend or maybe we can find some way to offer an alternative for these people that will prevent them from offending. Maybe we can do something even better. Who knows? The executioner doesn't.",
"If veterinarians can get the drugs, so can the state.",
"But most of the cost derives from the legal costs of fighting efforts to overturn the sentences or convictions. And you know, it’s right to give a lot of leeway to those efforts. Convicting someone and then killing them soon after isn’t a good look.\n\nTo my knowledge, the execution of Timothy McVeigh may have been the quickest in recent American history, at about six years after his conviction. And that was only because he chose to basically not fight the sentence.",
"I think the cost argument is the worst one against the death penalty because it overlooks the cost saving of people who commit capital offenses but who accept plea deals to life in prison and therefore waive (most of) their rights to trial and to subsequent appeals. In states that don’t have the death penalty there are presumably many more trials and appeals (versus pleading guilty to first degree murder and getting the mandatory life sentence).",
"I read the summary of possibly “innocent” people who have been executed since the death penalty was brought back in 1976 and the list is short (about 20 were featured) and few (if any) gave the impression of actual innocence (though to be sure the summaries provided by the anti-death penalty group that assembled the list did seem to raise doubts). In any event, the number of “innocent” people who may have been executed wrongfully in modern times is way, way less than a lot of people seem to think.\n\nEdit: here’s the [list](https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence/executed-but-possibly-innocent) I referenced above. Read it for yourself.",
"Can you provide any examples of this in the last 45 years? I’m seriously doubting you but happy to consider cast-iron DNA exonerations of executed people.",
"There’s an amazing movie called The Life of David Gale, with Kate Winslet and Kevin Spacey, all about this\n\nAnd I’m not being biased or anything, truly objectively great movie about this very issue",
"If that one person was their brother/ cousin/ son, you can be sure they’d agree with you. \n\nHow Conservatives think, unfortunately. Nothing happening to others matters until it happens to them.",
"Wellllllll....no, not really. Yeah, you get an automatic appeal on any DP conviction, but legal costs to the State for the appeals aren't that bad. Court's gotta be open anyway, have to pay extra security maybe, and most DP cases are given public defenders, so, yeah...some costs, but nothing out of the ordinary. It's the roughly 90k a year to house a death row inmate for decades during the appellate process that really adds up.",
"I was curious about this too recently and did some research. I came across an anti-death penalty advocacy group who compiled a list of the most dubious executions of possibly “innocent” people. The list was short (20 people) and the summaries didn’t exactly paint a picture of true innocence. Contrary to popular belief there doesn’t appear to be many (if any) modern instances where an executed person has been definitively proven to be “innocent”.\n\nEdit: here’s the [source](https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence/executed-but-possibly-innocent)",
"Wouldn’t it be a civil suit?\nIf negligence can be proven, no judge is going turn down the lawsuit just because the victim is a prisoner.",
"Humans are larger than most animals treated by veterinarians.",
"Agreed. It’s a tragedy voluntarily repeated after a tragedy",
"So the guy was all hyped up before his execution and then started vomiting…and having involuntary convulsions while unconscious… hardly seems as gruesome as some people are making it out to be.",
"I wonder if he felt that guilty when he killed that innocent prison worker...",
"America: Hitler’s dystopian wet dream",
"I mean the power to do that isnt granted casually...it takes 20 years of court appeals before it happens. That's the exact opposite of casually.",
"How about not letting the government execute people? That seems like a better option altogether.",
"It seems like most of the people who would push for humane execution are against the death penalty (myself included).",
"Not that simple",
"You can also record your last words with a funny voice.",
"We don't need a plan to \"switch over\" anything. \n\nThere are around 2,500 death row inmates in the country, out of TWO MILLION total prisoners. \n\nThe cost of \"housing\" them is utterly negligible compared to the overall cost of our penal-industrial complex. They represent like, .001% of the prison population.",
"I am far from Conservative but support Capital Punishment for some crimes. Be careful about using sweeping generalizations to categorize large groups of people.",
"I'm with you here. If the punishments for murder are intense people are less likely to do it right? Look at Singapore, can't do anything wrong there without getting your ass beat.",
"sentencing even the worst possible criminal to death is wrong in my eyes. the only exception would be people the state can not control. as in the person harms and maims security guards even in maximum security prisons.\n\nbut the issue with that is that you can then in effect reward people who want to die rather than life in prison. (but i kinda disagree with life in prison as well you should always have a door to freedom)",
"That is only because of the absurd system of appeals in the US justice system.",
"Plenty of vets specialize in large livestock, there’s almost 100 million cows and about 75 million pigs in the US. They vastly outnumber dogs and cats.",
"I find myself saying this a lot on Reddit but…\n\nLAnd OF tHe FReE, HOMe oF THE brAVE",
"Pure Barbarism.....",
"Just cut off the head. Or put bullets through the head. This drug shit is just stupid.",
"Execution is far more expensive than life imprisonment.",
"So edgy lol 😂",
"Ever stand up too fast and everything goes black? Having zero blood pressure would be that but a lot more. A good MMA choke works in five or ten seconds. Historical stories of heads conscious for half a minute are luridly fascinating but not realistic.",
"Man, do you need a hug? Go get yo self a hug.",
"Seizure, probably just a hypoxic seizure from obstruction of airway. \n\nThio redistributes very quickly, it’s use has been cited in cases of anaesthetic awareness. So decent chance of waking up but still being paralysed by the panc. Which is basically just torture. \n\nNeedless to say they are doing it badly, but any physician that got involved in this barbaric process doesn’t deserve to be a doctor!",
"Physician here: I'd like to discuss the convulsions and vomiting for a moment. The state of Oklahoma uses a 3 drug cocktail, but I believe the witness only mentioned two.\n\nThe first is midazolam which is a sedative. If I understand the witness' testimony, John Grant began to display full body convulsions upon the administration. This drug is used in surgery and is well tolerated by a wide population, so I believe he may be mistaken about the timing of which drug did what. The second is vecuronium bromide (Norcuron) which is a general anesthesia and also widely used. There are incidents of the drug having the opposite effect, which may be the case here. I've witnessed unconscious vomiting, which is dangerous for obvious reasons. The side effect is rare, but not unheard of. The third is potassium chloride, a salt, that is widely used to treat low blood potassium, alcoholics for example. But at a certain dose, say an ED50 of 0.45 nmol, it becomes lethal for a population.\n\nI've searched but can not find if these drugs are administered one at a time, or if there is some kind of overlap (concomitant). If so, there could be all sorts of complications with the original intent.\n\nThe bottom line, in my opinion, is this is the least effective, most profoundly stupid way to go about this business of killing people. I believe they use these 3 drugs because they are cheap and widely available. And administering IV's gives the state an odd sort of distancing from the grim task of killing human beings. Honestly, I have no idea why they do this. A convict would be better off if the executioners used the FDA approved method of killing mice such as isoflurane. Yes, this would be a gas chamber, but this very powerful anesthetic would be the simplest, most straightforward, idiot-proof method. I'm depressed for even having to write that last sentence.",
"Also, you can do this simply with an inert gas like nitrogen. They dont feel anything, they just go unconscious and die.",
"Yeah, I’m mostly with you on the first part of your argument, but not so much on the 2nd part. Just like with the court system, adding another prisoner doesn’t necessarily add “X” cost. The system costs what it costs and then they just divide it by however many prisoners there are. Adding 1 prisoner doesn’t necessarily result in added costs of “X” and reducing by 1 doesn’t result in saving “X” either.",
"This guy was obviously guilty.",
"G-G-G-G-Guillotine!!!",
"Guillotine seems like the way to go. Just keep it greased and sharp, and position the head so it goes right through the bottom of the brain stem. If you must execute someone, I'd rather take the more gory but less cruel method over these fancy high-tech ways of killing someone bloodlessly but more cruelly.",
"Well, you also dont want them to feel GOOD in their death either (Morphine might be an enjoyable experience). The real solution is a hood with nitrogen gas. They don't feel anything, they don't feel asphyxiated, they just die.",
"It does not change my mind on executions, it just changes my mind on how courts work. If the court sucks to the point where innocent people get sent to prison, thats the problem...not the actual sentence/execution.",
"NICE TO MEET YOU",
"Does being a criminal mean all bets are off and we just let the government do whatever it wants to them?",
"When she said \"The family of the victim\" I immediately assumed they meant the family of the person being executed.\n\nThere is no place of the death penalty in any civilized society.",
"Are we REALLY going to trust prosecutors who are incentivized to convict at all costs with having the non-biased judgment to back out of prosecution if exculpatory evidence comes up? How about the judgment of a jury of our peers, you know, also known as morons?\n\n \nIt's crazy.\n\nThe only way we could ever trust a conviction is correct is if a wrong full conviction would carry the same penalty. Judge, jury, prosecution...if you get this wrong, you'll be in the chair. \n\nNone of them have any true skin in the game.",
"Man, you’re clueless here. Every legal step requires lawyers from the other side to make counter-arguments. This goes on for decades.",
"It'd be a civil suit under FTCA (for Federal prison) or the State equivalent. Plus...who is bringing the suit? It's wrongful death, so the deceased isn't going to win anything.\n\nAlso, the problem isn't the judge, it'd be finding an attorney brave, bored, desperate, or dumb enough to bother.",
"A big part of the methods used is that doctors cannot perform executions because it goes against their oaths to do no harm. So the state can't just hire an anesthesiologist to aid with executions. They're performed by prison employees.",
"There are so incredibly few people who are truly innocent. Just because they didn't do the crime they were convicted for doesn't necessarily mean they are innocent. That said there should never be a death penalty unless the proof is irrefutable and the Judge of the trial is subject to the death penalty if it is found an innocent person was executed.",
"> It's like the point is cruelty.\n\nIt quite literally is, yes.\n\nWhy do you think we let them wait for 10+ years before killing them, instead of killing them right after the verdict and after all legal options are exhausted?",
"Is witnesses being interviewed by media normal after execution in the States or are these anti-death penalty campaigners who'd want to discuss it publically? \n\nIt sounded horrific either way. The States should abolish the death penalty.",
"You are a fool.",
"HAHAHAHA!\n\nYeah. Clueless.",
"Because then they would have to call it a gas chamber, and that would probably upset someone somewhere.",
"Its not about the convict.\n\nIt means the execution was tampered with.\n\nThat shouldn't be possible in general.",
"Very much to the point. Furthermore, why should the State have the power to kill? It all sounds good if you believe the State will never abuse that power.",
"Yeah, but you couldn’t listen to the recording and laugh at it with your friends.",
"Capital punishment is barbarism and has no positive societal effects at all.",
"I remember reading about a very old study by some French guy. Regarding what happens after decapitation.\n\nAparently you don't instantly get your lights turned off.\n\nSo, I'd rather fall asleep from nitrogen or helium or something like that than experience my head rolling around.\n\nAlso the cleanup afterwards... decapitation is a messy business.",
"Yeah any noble gas will work, nitrogen too. \n\nHave heard of people switching to argon as pure helium becomes more difficult to obtain due to manufacturers of balloon tanks etc realising their products are being used for painless suicide.",
"Tbf I'm against the death penalty in general... which makes keeping it messy an important part I think. We should as a society have to look ourselves in the mirror and say \"am I willing to cut this man's head off even though he may be innocent\". Cause I think we shouldn't be willing to do that, and we should give people life in prison because it gives the state the responsibility to give them as much of their life back as possible if exculpatory evidence is found during their lifetime.",
"The appeals system means less innocent people get killed. Removing it would make things much worse.",
"And you are the smartest person humanity has to offer",
"There are multiple accounts of heads responding to stimuli for minutes after the chop. Beheading is also messy, some poor schmuck has to clean that up. It also mutilates a body. Besides, it’s just so *French*. Brings up images of wretched excess and unfair trials.",
"If we really want humane executions, sneak into the inmates' cell in the middle of the night and shoot them in the fucking head",
"...I did see a docu on using a hypoxia chamber for executions...person just goes euphoric and loses consciousness.",
">Besides, it’s just so French. \n\nActually, good point. Don't want anything to do with the Fr*nch.",
"They essentially are anesthetizing them. Induction of general anesthesia is in most cases lethal without an intervention from the anesthesia provider, like putting in a breathing tube and connecting the patient to a ventilator.",
"It doesn't have to.",
"That dude in the back who doesn't say anything looks like he showed up in the wrong room accidentally.",
"Because we have to let the appeals process happen? That's why the death penalty is more expensive than life in prison.",
"Probably not as painful as being stabbed 16 times in a broom closet.",
"Doesn't really matter though, the legal system has to be fair. If we break the law to enforce the law the system falls apart.",
"Bring back the guillotine.",
"Courts will always be flawed, they are staffed by human beings. No legal system is immune from human error. There will always be the chance of a wrongful conviction.",
"[The Dead Eyes Opened.](https://youtu.be/gJJ5WEmW5OI)",
"The reality is gruesome without any gruesome details whatsoever imo.",
"I do accept the risk of wrongful convictions and still support the death penalty, knowing that me or one of my friends or family could be wrongfully executed.\n\nWrongfully imprisoning the innocent is just as wrong as wrongfully executing the innocent. It is not as severe, but it is equally wrong.\n\nIf the problem is with investigative practices and the standard of reasonable doubt then that is where the improvement is needed. If the methods of determining guilt are not good enough, I don't agree that the correct response is to lighten the punishment after the agreed-upon standard of guilt has been met.",
"Did he die though? I have no problem with any of this.",
"Good. I hope he suffered something fierce.\n\nFor your information: he stabbed an old lady “because he didn’t get the food he wanted”. God I hope he suffered.",
"Arizona set up a gas chamber that uses zyklon b. Some of us are upset.",
"Yeah fuck this shit stain. I hope he suffered for what he did.",
"It kind of sucks even if you support it, because it’s so ‘final’ they have to be sure they are guilty to a higher degree and many more people get off on a technicality.\n\nIt’s easier to keep people in normal prison forever.",
"Uh, what? This is such a dumb thing to say and yet you post it *twice* in this thread? Lol.",
"You missed the point so phenomenally, you might just need an award to cement this occasion.",
"When it’s a case of this guy stabbing an old lady in the broom closet and cases alike good. Kill them and save me a buck.\n\nI agree it’s a dangerous slope, though, and without satisfactory evidence the death penalty should be discouraged. Confessions aren’t really even evidence these days with some of the brutal interrogations.\n\nE: for those of you saying “executions are more expensive” they don’t have to be and they are that way because “it has to be humane”. Firing squad. Bullets for that are 20 bucks and they have the guns already. Stop saying “oh the system currently makes executions expensive”. That’s all because of the bullshit that has to be done to get to the point of executing. This dude should have been shot 15 minutes after it was determined he stabbed that woman 16 times. Would have cost 0.\n\nE2: I do not support an aggressive death penalty. My anger and frustration is when you cases like OP where the guy brutally murdered someone and it’s so opened and closed it’s not a debate. He should have been put down quick and easy.\n\nThat said I get it’s not that easy and people lie. I wouldn’t generalize my feelings to other people, I am specifically talking about the dude in OPs case.",
"Adding a death row prisoner absolutely adds cost; food, entertainment, etc. And, of course, there are, in most facilities, state and administrative laws mandating the number of CO's assigned per DR inmate in a maximum security facility. That requires hiring or moving CO's from one post to another, and specialized training for DR CO's, etc. That said, I think we agree generally that it isn't as linear as Jail + one DR inmate = Jail - 90k, but no facility is thrilled about the cost of housing yet another DR. And it is far greater in the aggregate than the trial and the appellate process. Particularly if you throw in private or pro bono counsel for the Defendant, rather than a trial or appellate PD.",
"Agree 100%",
"When an innocent person is wrongfully executed in a brutal fashion, well, that's just the price of justice. /s",
"No, but I have much less sympathy and have a hard time getting in to those podcasts. I'm not too concerned with drug dealers, abusers and theives getting charged for a murder they may or may not have commited.",
"I like how the only response you're capable of is \"this is dumb\" and not an actual criticism. Which is exactly what one expects from people who favor capital punishment.",
"I'd take the guillotine all day.",
"\"This man murdered many victims, and murder is wrong! What should we do with him?\"\n\n\"Murder him!\"",
"Inert gas asphyxiation, and yea there was a BBC documentary or something where they came to the conclusion that was the most humane.",
"is anyone arguing that this man was innocent?",
"The is the most logical and concise answer to being anti death penalty I've seen.\n\nAlthough I like it, Im forced to respond with \"why jail people if you cannot ensure guilt when some of those in jail are there for kidnapping\".",
"OH that poor criminal being put to death for the crimes he did to others.\n\nDeath is Death and sometimes it is just plain gruesome BUT some people deserve it and some people don't those sentenced to die has been done so for a reason and that reason is for crimes, sometimes unspeakable ones that fail to get into the reasons for these concerns for CRIMINALS.\n\nIt is still better and more humane than other methods personally I say save the money and use a firing squad with two bullets to insure it's quick because it is NEVER really painless no matter how it is done.\n\nCruel and Unusual is what the VICTIMS SUFFERED...\n\nN. Shadows",
"I think we need to have the most humane executions as possible, and this method is not humane in any way. The State should not indulge in the human desire for revenge or suffering, only legally-mandated punishments in accordance with State and Federal laws. The executed prisoner did some cruel, deplorable things to other human beings. No doubting that. However, wishing agonizing suffering and torment upon any person is evil, and anybody who thinks our executions should involve undue suffering is spiritually aligned with folks like ISIS, with their cruel beheading and immolation.",
"No innocents will be killed. There are several layers of judiciary involved to closely cross examine each and every detail before the final act of execution is done. And more often than not, people on death row get off the hook in exchange for more jail time. Only the criminal who had committed the gravest of the gravest crime gets executed. (At least, that is how it is done in India.)",
"I went from \"surely that can't be correct\" to \"that's appalling\" real quickly.",
"Recently?",
"That’s pretty brutal. The calm distancing of oneself from the act of terminating human life is odd to watch.",
"I put that bit in for a bit of levity.",
"Yes, it does. The cost comes from the lengthy appeals process. The alternative would be execution shortly following the first conviction. That’s a great recipe to execute even more innocent people than we already do.",
"I don’t get how killing people hasn’t stopped people from killing people, yet.",
"How hard is it to put someone to sleep like a dog or cat? Wtf.",
"I wonder how the murdered felt while she was being stabbed 16 times with a shank? Was that not cruel?\n\nEdit: Also he didn't get killed right there because he appealed it. Don't appeal it and it will get done a lot quicker. You think we keep them around for fun?",
"Death row inmates are actually suuuuper expensive. They require housing apart from the general population, and they're often more dangerous and disruptive because, you know, they've really got nothing to live for. Also the court system allows for constant appeals and extensions, so someone can live in this system for literally years or decades before they're actually executed.\n\nNothing about this is moral, rational, or okay. Add the whole \"for-profit prison\" aspect, where prisoners can perform slave labor or be used to inflate population stats for elections, and it's just obscene.",
"Why would they be dumb to bother? That’s a rather ignorant statement. \n\nThe family of the deceased would bring the suit.\nSome suits are civil rights suits. Access to adequate mental healthcare is poor enough in the US and even worse in prisons. \n\nThe staff in jails and prisons have an obligation to keep inmates safe, if they fail to do so, the facility should be held accountable.",
"Worked as a litigation consultant for years, mostly for DAs on homicide cases. Courtroom presentations, scene reconstruction, lots of autopsy reports. Saw some things that’ll keep you up at night. There’s evil in this world, people who can sit and casually joke with officers hours after dismembering a kid, I’d rather they just not be alive any more, makes it easier to sleep.",
"While I would argue that we have a barbaric society where the division of labor conveniently shelters most of us from the barbarism (e.g. towards our livestock, military adversaries, and imprisoned populace), I sometimes feel like a more broadly and liberally applied death penalty could have positive societal effects, simply through inculcating a sense of fear into potential wrongdoers. \n\n\nLike executions for murder, felony assault or felony theft. Society would rid itself of so many reprobate criminals this way, and we would see dramatic decreases in such crimes, knowing that being caught could end your life. Conversely, I think this would have to be accompanied by many social programs endorsed by the left, to create a more just and peaceable society.",
"[Executions are often more expensive than life in prison](https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/costs) \n\nAlso, our prison system needs to be overhauled from treating people like wild animals in cages to human beings who deserve to be treated with respect and dignity. Given the opportunity to better themselves while serving their time. \n\nAbolish the death penalty, make prisons comfortable, safe, and a place where people can grow and better themselves so they are more prepared for life outside of prison walls to reduce recidivism.",
"I'm pretty sure a couple cc's of fentanyl would work.",
">No innocents will be killed\n\nInnocents are executed all the time.",
"Sounds like a real spectacle, imagine how much money could be made off of live-streaming those executions.",
"I'm going to spoil the plot for you. Innocent people do in fact get executed for crimes they didn't commit.",
"In the case of a wrongful conviction, you can release somebody from jail. You cannot bring someone back to life.",
"Executions don’t have to be more expensive.\n\nWith respect to this particular case in OPs video: \nThis fucking shit stain stabbed a woman more than a dozen times in a broom closet. She doesn’t get any more life. He doesn’t. I don’t want to foot the bill so some murderous sack of shit family destroyer gets “a chance to better himself”. HE DOESNT DESERVE IT.",
"Because this is the USA, not Devil’s Island. We allow multiple appeals over multiple years to try to make sure we haven’t fucked it all up and are offing some guy who is innocent. Haste makes waste. Measure twice and cut once.",
"Actually, you’d only take it once.",
"I dont have the data in front of me, but studies I have read in the past actually show that it is usually much more expensive to execute a prisoner than it is to hold them for life.",
"Jailing someone is reversible. Execution is not.",
"This makes me sick. I can't believe how a first world country are still executing their citizens. USA you need to get your punishment system up to date, this is the year 2021!",
"I have *never* understood why types of executions aren't combined. I mean I oppose the death penalty, but if it's going to be done it seems REALLY easy: give drugs to put em to sleep then do whatever, shoot, guillotine, whatever.",
"I appreciate you sharing this knowledge! \n\nHopefully if these unfortunate acts continue they find a more humane manner to administer it (or at least one with less points of potential failure) like you mentioned here.",
"You’re a product of your culture. Plenty of decent people supported other morally problematic practices, like child labor, or slavery.",
"We can all imagine examples of truly heinous people who we'd celebrate dying. Child rapists, old lady-murderers, and so on. These people exist and are horrible and the world will shed no tears at their passing. But they will ALWAYS exist, the death penalty does nothing to actually STOP them.\n\nThe question stands - how many innocents are you okay with killing if it means killing a child rapist? What about people framed for child rape, or convicted on flimsy evidence? If the state has power to kill child rapists, will it seek to expand that power? If the state IS going to kill child rapists, does it makes sense to keep them in expensive, inhumane, privately-owned separate prisons for years at a time while an exhaustive legal appeals process occurs in the background?",
"That’s weirder. then. The death penalty is the direct opposite of equality.",
"It used to happen years ago I agree. The number increasing as we move backwards in history.\n\nBut, in the current day and age.. before the execution took place, how did they establish the guilt? And how did they argue that of the several combinations of punishments that can be applied, execution was the best one?\n\nSee, I am arguing that the process nowadays is so complex and under constant and severe scrutiny that, if someone cleared everything to reach the final stage, he probably must have done something absolutely gruesome, not once on accident, but multiple times intentionally.",
"You could easily turn that around and ask how many victims families should be denied justice to satisfy your qualms? How many guilty men would you set free to save one innocent man from incarceration? If the objection to the death penalty is simply the error rate, then what would you consider an acceptable percentage of error and still support the death penalty. OTOH, if you still wouldn’t support it at zero, why even ask?\n\nI’m all for reforming the death penalty to impose a higher evidentiary standard subject to an independent review board for death penalty cases. Of those that do, I’m all for applying the dp in the least agonizing manner possible, even granting the condemned a reasonable choice of method. If that higher standard isn’t met, fine. Defaults to life without parole. But some crimes are so heinous that the perpetrator’s life should be forfeit. \n\nThe appeals process shouldn’t routinely take 20 years either. One or two automatic appeals, fast track them. Shouldn’t take more than 12-18 months.",
"If they made child labor safer, and lead in petrol 50% less deadly, they would have extended them a few decades more. That’s not a good thing.",
"This is the weirdest part to me. If the state is going to execute someone (I don't think they should), then why not just get the victim high first? Do it euthanasia-style, have them huff nitrous until they slip away.\n\nIs that not \"fun\" enough? Is the point to eliminate bad people or to make them suffer as they go? I'm genuinely asking.",
"A firing _line_? That means it's a handful of people, lined up, all with guns. ~~Most of them with blanks in the guns, and 1 person with live ammo. So 1 person, with a gun, shoots you.~~ [5 people with guns aim, 1 with a blank.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Gilmore#Execution) So 4 guns shoot at you. They're gonna be aiming center mass. You'll get hit in the abdomen, and probably bleed into your lungs. A _long time_ will pass, all the while you are in pain, and feeling all of the fear and agony that comes with death.\n\nI'd rather have a guillotine. With that though still, there's many seconds of agony, provided it actually goes all the way through. If it doesn't go through, oh boy, that's a bad day to be sure. Lethal injection today, is the choice (and often is a literal choice the inmate gets to make) above the electric chair. [Electric chair had all kinds of problems.](https://www.orlandoweekly.com/orlando/dead-man-talking/Content?oid=2263176).\n\nThe issue is consistency. When it works correctly, the electric chair is a few moments of ZAP ZAP, and done. When it doesn't, it becomes the horrific scenes depicted in the Green Mile. And its the same with lethal injection. When its done right, they just go to sleep and don't wake up. Thing is, in all cases of death penalty, shit doesn't always go right. People have varying constitutions. Drugs generally work pretty much the same for most people, except when they don't. That's why everything has fine print and side effects. \n\nUltimately what we're talking about is a humane way to kill someone. When really the more humane thing to do, would be to not kill people.",
"But then there wouldn’t be any money involved….",
"Thank you for sharing this well-informed viewpoint. My opinion about capitol punishment changes from day-to-day, but one outlook has never changed, and that is that if it is going to happen, it should be the fastest, most painless method possible. \n\n\nCould we not simply make a gas mask-like device that delivered the isoflurane straight into the circulatory system, rather than a roof full of the gas?",
"I agree with all your points. I don’t support death penalty in 99% of scenarios, even for heinous crimes without proper evidence of the crime.",
"It’s a matter of degrees, but you can’t extend that logic to justifying, say, a bullet to the head of the inevitable innocent people. If it’s immoral it just has to stop, plain and simple.",
"I understand the permanence argument, but if you jailed someone from 18 and exonerated them at 40, you don't just get back all those years. Then you have to consider the innocent people that are never exonerated.",
"No, I meant the US being the only developed Western nation that hasn’t abolished this - of any kind - years ago is the barbaric part.",
"Ye.",
"There are so many things unjustifiable about the practice, the pain of that day is one of the most minor.",
"You can execute innocent people, or you can spend vast amounts of taxpayer money on appeals. \n\nThere is no magic “cheap trials and no innocent people executed option”.",
"Dude, they used to hang people by their necks. And then there was electric chairs. \n\nLethal injection is still awful, but it's predecessors were pretty fucking gruesome.",
"Until a different system is put in place, why not make the current one better?",
"Adding to these excellent points, I want to ask - is the point of these executions to eliminate bad people? Or to make bad people suffer as they die? Because if it's the former, why not simply euthanize these people rather than give them a brutal cocktail of drugs?\n\nIn addition to all the overall obscenity of state-sponsored execution, it's bizarre that we're discussing how to \"ethically\" execute prisoners when euthanasia already exists. It truly seems like the state wants to maintain an element of cruelty to the process.",
"What you've said makes it hard for me to see you in a sympathetic light, do you think it's ok if I punished you beyond what your potential future crimes call for because of that?",
"I'd imagine it should be back-to-back pushes of a sedative & paralytic like RSI, so shouldn't be a convulsive seizure if they're doing it properly, right?\n\nAnd agreed, anyone who does this shouldn't be in medicine.",
"I agree. Being the only western country with the death penalty, and having a 500% higher murder rate than all the other western countries, can’t be completely unrelated.",
"Abolition can be done overnight by a Governor, with the stroke of a pen.\n\nTinkering at the edges extends something that regularly kills innocent people for a few decades longer.",
"He looks like he's having a mild panic attack IMO. His eyes are bugged and he's responding to every noise in the room like he's just barely holding it together.",
"I disagree with you on your statement that the state doesn’t care about the victim or victim’s family. As someone who has been a victim of a violent crime, I can attest that the police and the Attorney General bent over backwards to treat me with respect and compassion. \n\nJohn Grant was executed because he WAS more than a threat to the people of the state.",
"Incarceration is reversible. Death is not. That's not a valid comparison, because if you merely imprison someone falsely, it's at least *possible* to attempt to correct the mistake, even if that time can never be returned.",
"Quote an example case perhaps? Preferably within the last 10-15 years or so. I will definitely read it up.",
"But if their locked up and not able to harm anyone, what's the point of murdering them?",
"I have the opposite thoughts. There's much of a CSI effect on people that they think circumstantial evidence is nothing. Even DNA can be \"circumstantial\". For instance, someone can claim their DNA was there because they are the husband, friend, or it was a consensual act. Circumstantial shouldn't be a part of our vocabulary",
"Do you have any evidence to back up your claim? Or is this just what you feel is correct? Most evidence points to numerous innocent people being executed up until today. \n\n[This site](https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence/executed-but-possibly-innocent) contains names of suspected innocent people executed in the last 30 years, 2 of whom were in 2020. \n\nAlso current studies point to at least 4% of people on death row being innocent, most likely higher. [Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrongful_execution#United_States)",
"My understanding was it’s a one off bolus.",
"**Wrongful execution** \n \n [United States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrongful_execution#United_States) \n \n >University of Michigan law professor Samuel Gross led a team of experts in the law and in statistics that estimated the likely number of unjust convictions. The study, published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences determined that at least 4% of people on death penalty/death row were and are likely innocent. People have no doubt that some innocent people have been executed. Statistics likely understate the actual problem of wrongful convictions because once an execution has occurred there is often insufficient motivation and finance to keep a case open, and it becomes unlikely at that point that the miscarriage of justice will ever be exposed.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)",
"Many things are possible, fewer are likely to happen.",
"Can you give some cases?",
"You can’t stop such a global moral and practical development. \n\nEven in the US it has largely retreated to a few holdout states, mainly in the South.",
"The state shouldn't have the right to take someone's life. The system isn't good enough for that. There's too much corruption for that. And i don't think anyone should have their life taken from them by anyone unless they're in the process of trying to take someone else's life. Life in prison is how it should be done.",
"They deserve it? It’s not a hard concept, they shouldn’t be allowed to breathe, eat, sleep & dream. 3 hots and a cot is far too good for them. There are guys who probably get off every night thinking about their victims.",
"It is a valid comparison, because 1.) most death row inmates are incarcerated for a decade or longer. 2.) You can’t restore years of lost liberty. \n\nThey’re not *identical* but they are comparable.",
"I’ve tried to find any articles that supports your claim, that dna proved a person guilty, then was executed, and later found to be innocent. Please cite sources for this claim.",
"The minutes long wait between drugs seems odd.",
"Ok Hammurabi.",
">A firing line? That means it's a handful of people, lined up, all with guns. Most of them with blanks in the guns, and 1 person with live ammo. So 1 person, with a gun, shoots you. They're gonna be aiming center mass. You'll get hit in the abdomen, and probably bleed into your lungs.\n\nI know very little about firing lines but this sounds like a terrible approach that you've invented out of thin air and then gotten really offended about.",
"No",
"We absolutely could do that. The administration is straightforward for what I prescribed. Isoflurane is readily available. I have no idea why they don't. My suspicion is this: the state balances a weird paradox of killing people, trying to do it humanly, and is cost effective... all the while balancing this weird \"we are in the right\" stance. What transpires is a conflagration of what should be done. It results in what you just witnessed in the video. It is an atrocity.",
"Not that I see. Are you arguing that people don't get executed in this fashion unless they are really, really super-for-sure guilty? Does the state have a higher burden of proof for capital trails that never results in innocent people getting executed by the same means?",
"https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence/executed-but-possibly-innocent",
"I don’t think he “suffered like his victim”. He had a choice not to kill. He had years to make his peace, or not, with his upcoming end.",
"Was that an accidental strawman or intentional? It's called the justice *system*, not the justice but we apply different rules sometimes. The system that has led to innocent people being sentenced to death is the same system that brutally executed this man.",
"I had it backwards. It's 1 person with blanks, and 4 people with live ammo.\n\nThat's hardly invention out of thin air. Didn't stop you from making inflamed accusations on an internet forum though. Are _you_ offended?",
"It’s unusual to basically make people high and like give them literal pleasure when you are punishing them for a crime. Part of “Cruel and Unusual” is unusual. If a person was thinking of shooting up a school, but feared death themselves, saying “don’t worry, it will be super pleasurable as you go. So pleasurable that people literally throw their lives away anyways to feel this good” is not really a deterrent",
"It's a matter of practicality to me as well. Often times they're so mentally ill/unstable they're not able to be studied too well. They're uncooperative, and distant. Ed Kemper comes to mind as a unique example that directly led to a thorough study of serial killers, because of his intellect. There's a reason he stands out.\n\nCapital punishment isn't exactly to deter, but more for justice. You can't deter an unstable/mentally ill person. If someone killed your loved one, what comfort does them getting fed, housed, kept comfortable, and given medical treatment, for the rest of their lives give you? Some crimes deserve more punishment than confinement. And many people don't want to *literally pay money* for these people to be incarcerated. \n\nAt what point is it more taxing on us to study them, lock them up for decades, and ask these \"why\" questions, when in reality it's typically simple answers. Occams Razor. It's not a deep misunderstood issue, were animals at heart. Many of these killers are just screwed in the head, and understanding that further won't necessarily \"fix\" them, nor prevent them in the future. You can't give someone a shot to make them not a pedophile, just as you can't for homosexuals. We can have errors in our programming, so to speak. Some people are simply, broken. \n\nWe like to think we can prevent these things, but that's the rule of nature. Chaos. To an extent, I understand your point. I think to a degree it's important to see what we can and can't control. I'm talking about the monsters of the world that truly deserve executions. Not some middle class man who snaps and murders his wife and kids due to financial and relationship woes.",
"Ignorance implies I don't know what I'm talking about. I assure you that I do. I've practiced as a civil and criminal defense attorney for well over a decade. \n\n\"Dumb\" because in most jurisdictions there are statutory limits on what can be recovered from a government agency (such as a prison), limits on what an attorney can take in fees, numerous forms of qualified immunity to overcome, and, as previously mentioned, strong disfavor by juries and judges alike in awarding substantial verdicts for prisoners (and, by proxy, prisoners' families...important point). So, a lawyer would have to be, as previously stated, brave, bored, desperate, or dumb to take such a case in almost every situation. I'm speaking from experience. \n\nThat said, you're making moral arguments for why someone should be able to sue the prison, and not dealing with practical legal reality. Is it \"wrong\" when a prison or jail \"allows\" someone to kill themself? Maybe. Is it \"actionable\"? Sure, almost anything is. But, is it \"likely to succeed on the merits of the case\"? It is not.",
"Fair. I feel like if they are upset with that method, then they should CERTAINLY be upset with the convulsing puke waterboarding death method. \n\nI disagree with the death penalty personally. That’s like giving a person a life’s sentence but telling them they can skip to the end of their sentence immediately…",
"Just to give you the level of proof that I thought the death penalty required. I thought there would either be multiple independent witnesses corroborating with physical evidence backing it up, and probably some irrefutable evidence like a video or audio. Otherwise it would be just life in prison. It is definitely not that.",
"I mean, you first",
"Thank you for the link. I will definitely read few of the lates cases.\n\nGlancing at the summary given in the post, I was surprised that with all the mishandling of the case, the convict was awarded a death penalty. I have read elsewhere that, ideally, in situations where the crime can not be verified 100%, they should never go for death penalty.",
"I think the size of the animal has a large role in how quickly drugs will have the effect desired.",
"If I was a criminal I probably wouldn't think of you at all.",
"Ever hear of Richard Speck? He raped and stabbed eight women who were studying to be nurses. He was caught, obviously guilty and he gave a full confession. He was sentenced to death but that was commuted to life. Which he just loved. He spent his years regaling his fellow inmates with detailed pornographic retellings of his crimes. He shot actual porn vids with other inmates, managed to get himself a boob job, wrote nasty letters to the families of his victims, ran a black market for drugs, porn, weapons. He stated in interviews that he enjoyed the hell out of prison. He is the poster child for death penalty advocates. What happened was not justice but a travesty.",
"I'd give more Indian specific ones but it's very hard to even get reliable numbers. Officially there have only been something like 50 since the 60's but outside estimates range from 750-1500 due to poor reporting from local authorities.",
"Yes, if there is any doubt something was real, or a face was blurry, it would not be admissible. I see your point.\n\nI’m talking about a guy filming himself chopping someone up and popping in for a closeup selfie type situation.",
"Thats a subjective opinion. I think if its done properly I would prefer it to lifelong imprisonment for certain people.\n\nOf course that would also require that the former not be more expensive…",
"I don’t think there are any. Here’s the list of the “best” examples of people who have been executed who were possibly innocent. There’s only 20 on the list and even reading these “best” cases, not one was mentioned where someone was proven to be innocent. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence/executed-but-possibly-innocent I agree that (based on these one-sided summaries that need to be taken with a grain of salt) that some seem to cast reasonable doubt on the conviction or sentence, but there are none where it’s a clear-cut case of “he didn’t do it.”",
"Another person has already responded. I'll let them waste their breath on numbskulls like you.",
"You took that long to respond with a mad men quote?",
"They're not comparable: one is ultimate, and the other is not. That's like saying ∞ and 1 are comparable because they're both numbers. Just because they can be described in similar terms on a limited basis doesn't mean it makes any sense to weigh the one against the other.",
"I was just asking if this man was innocent and executed. That's all.",
"They’re both injustices which deprive the convicted of inalienable rights, yes? \n\nGranted, accidentally killing the wrong man is irrevocable, but they are both failings of the justice system that punish the innocent. With that out of the way:\n\n*Are you going to answer any of the questions I asked or nah?*",
">You could easily turn that around and ask how many victims families should be denied justice to satisfy your qualms? How many guilty men would you set free to save one innocent man from incarceration?\n\nYou can't turn it around; the two aren't comparable for exactly the reasons I described. The question's assumptions are invalid, because the discussion is about abolishing capital punishment, not abolishing incarceration in general. \n\n&#x200B;\n\n>OTOH, if you still wouldn’t support it at zero, why even ask?\n\nBecause people who do support capital punishment also implicitly support the execution of innocents. Asking such questions reveals the hypocrisy implicit in their positions in a way that's difficult for them to avoid. \n\nThere, now you can't say I've avoided your questions, even though I'd always answered the first two in our prior discussion.",
"Sorry I was working. Mad men?",
"Your opposition to capital punishment is framed as asking how many innocent people DP proponents are willing to kill. Just because you think it’s unfair to reframe the question doesn’t mean it’s invalid. Declaring a question, or it’s assumptions, invalid is just dodging the question. That you’ve done this repeatedly points to intentional intellectual dishonesty on your part. People who support incarceration implicitly support the incarceration of innocents, therefore incarceration should be banned, per your logic. It’s a straightforward question: what standard of error, if any, would change your mind? How many guilty men would you let go free to protect the innocent? Would you support reforms to enhance the evidentiary standard for imposition of the death penalty so as to guarantee innocent men are not executed, but guilty ones still are?\n\nAgain, declaring the question invalid isn’t an answer.",
"Execution is also not a deterrent. There's zero data suggesting state executions slow down crime. Nobody is going to shoot up a school because they think they'll get high while being injected.",
"I think you've jumped to a conclusion on this issue rather quickly. I highly doubt that at 2021 AD we've explored all there is to know about mental illness and how it relates to crime and its time to throw in the towel and declare it unsolvable. Every future generation from now until the last human being will do things just like we do with no better results because the problem is just not worth working on? Probably not. Like I said before, who knows what we can do? Not the executioner and probably not you or I. All I want is to keep the option open for scientists to study these people and not throw away our only windows into minds like theirs. \n\nMaybe they *are* simply animals at heart and their reasons to do the depraved things they do are equally simple, but why does that mean we can't fix them or prevent them in the future? Maybe we're on the cusp of understanding something about brain chemistry that could clue us into a way to do just that. Without a population of them that we can study or test new theories on, we have nothing.",
"Right, the death penalty is not a good solution, but the pleasurable death penalty is double stupid.",
"\"So, when you killed your wife, how did you feel about it?\"\n\n\"I didn't kill my wife.\"\n\n\"*Are you going to answer the question?\"*\n\n\"The question's assumptions are invalid.\"\n\n\"Declaring the question invalid isn't an answer.\"\n\nOh yeah, you're not a troll *at all,* good-faith as fuck.",
"Why not? Is the goal to eliminate a dangerous person or to make them suffer first? Genuinely asking.",
"If it is first degree murder, and the convicted had his rights under the Constitution upheld, then I’m not too upset by it. Better than cases from Europe where life is never life, and killers have been released to kill again. One case a rapist/murderer was released because he seemed so reformed. Eventually he made his way to the US where he raped and murdered more women.",
"getting shot 4 times in the chest is a very very fast death.",
"If you release them at 40, you’re correct they can’t get those years back. But they do get whatever remaining years along with likely a large settlement to help with the rest of their life. If you kill them at 40, they do not get those remaining years no matter what. That is a simple but HUGE difference",
"Keep in mind too that guilt and innocence is also not an objective determination. Crimes are established by the State, so one can be guilty, but the legislated crime itself may not be ethical. (e.g., you may be guilty of criticizing the State, but should that even be a crime?) The State should never be given the power to kill; it is bad enough that they can imprison for possession of a plant.... that worked out (is working out) really well.",
"Well you could keep adjusting my neck on the guillotine and get some thin slices. Deli meat style.",
"I looked up the numbers for India.\n\n8 people in the last 20 years. Last 7 were convicted with irrefutable evidence that was proven beyond circumstances.",
"I looked up the numbers for India.\n\n8 people in the last 20 years. Last 7 were convicted with irrefutable evidence that was proven beyond circumstances.",
"Short of eugenics and/or forcible surgeries/medications (to which these people may not consent) there really is no way to \"fix\" or \"prevent\" abnormalities of human behavior, especially in incarcerated populaces. We already understand a lot of these mechanisms pretty well. It's typically centered in brain damages/abnormalities. They're not like cancer, where you develop it slowly. It's often more akin to birth defects, or freak accidents.\n\nTo say that we should seek to understand it is one thing, it's another to state that a future which makes that possible is the prefered outcome. These problems have persisted for all of human existence, they are normal human behavior, historically. Morality aside.\n\nAs an example. If we somehow did understand an underlying mechanism that created pedophiles, what are the ethics of acting upon it? Is it any different than forcing people to not be gay? If we had a shot that somehow guaranteed a person would be born without pedophilic tendencies, or take them away from people who have had them, who is the arbiter of that morality? Could that extend to making people not by gay? At that point, we have more issues.\n\nI do get what you are saying, however to what degree, are we the public, responsible for financially supporting mass amounts of people for the purpose of research. Do we research DUI offenders? Arsonists? What is the cutoff? And ethically, to what extent should these people be researched? \n\nPunishment for crimes and/or study of mechanisms that cause said crimes are entirely separate issues that can be independently conducted. You can study a serial killer without housing and feeding them for decades on end. I can see a fine medium where they can be studied prior to execution, however my current core of the issue is due to private prisons and long incarceration times putting undue burdens on taxpayers while simultaneously undermining our justice system and those housed in it. \n\nI think you do have a great and optimistic outlook with good intentions, however where that road leads to is just as, if not scarier than, sparse executions.",
"Just the first. They should not feel pleasure nor undue pain. Just death. Anything else is cruel or unusual",
"Depraved people do depraved stuff if given a chance. The families of the victims were horrified by his actions in prison. He was gleefully reliving the crime repeatedly. For me, I do see his case as a pro dp argument.",
"You’re making a false equivalency with a classic loaded question (do you still beat your wife) I’ve framed my questions to you in no such way, and assuming no false premises. What I asked you was straightforward. You’ve repeatedly dodged. \n\nYou’re the troll. Good day.",
"This is how euthanasia is performed, isn't it? Couldn't inmates be euthanized rather than executed?",
"Deli meat style was merely conveying the message. Plenty of raw meat is thinly sliced. Just not a cool way to say that.",
"But that puts them in another population. I don't want prisoners murdering each other.\n\nI'm also against the death penalty generally.",
"Anecdotal evidence.",
"> Kill them and save me a buck.\n\nIt's actually more expensive to execute someone than it is to keep them in jail for life due to the appeals process. If you try to cut down on the appeals process, that increases the amount of innocent people that are executed. It is estimated that 4% on death row are actually innocent.",
"You're footing the bill regardless and it's a larger bill for execution.",
"What about the second part of my statement?",
"That says a few things about you",
"Provide evidence anyone uses blanks on a line. That is Hollywood stuff. \n\nProne bipod shots to the heart are nearly instant. It does beg the question why not a 45acp pistol shot at 6 inches, but it's still miles better than the needle.",
"Evidence.",
"Euthanasia is the same thing as execution, one is just willing. Its semantics",
"Personally I think euthanasia has more humane methods.",
">Abolish the death penalty, make prisons comfortable, safe, and a place where people can grow and better themselves\n\nThis is a laughable approach and your mind would be drastically changed if it was your grandmother that got stabbed 16 times with a screwdriver. Don't bother replying me telling me it wouldn't.",
"Ok but shouldn’t we aim for humane? There’s a spectrum from convulsing and choking on vomit to literally giving pleasure drugs that I feel you are missing…",
"I dont think it is pointless. Because as I said, you should decide if you are against executing guilty parties, or if you are just against imprisoning innocent people.",
"> If the punishments for murder are intense people are less likely to do it right?\n\nActually, no. It turns out the degree of punitive action has little bearing on crime rates. Some base significant punishment is needed, but increasing from there does little. Apparently rehabilitation and addressing the root causes of crime are more effective. There's tons of research on this but we continue to rely on obsolete ideas...",
"We can definitely approach the root issues better than we have. It certainly couldn't hurt.\n\nBut all the idiots that ride around thinking they are gangsters need to be punished hard so they don't do it again. If there is no doubt you shot a gun into a passing car just for the hell of it. Death penalty.\n\nI mean video footage, pictures, admission, any of that...there is no use trying to rehabilitate them",
"Again, the research shows otherwise. You're making emotional judgements, not logical ones. \n\nYou *feel* people need to be punished but when it comes down to how it really works most people respond better to rehabilitation and assistance *while* imprisoned. \n\nDo you care more about your gratification that someone's being punished or actually reducing crime? If the former you're on the right track, if the latter I'd suggest reading up on it rather than just assuming you're right?",
"The system is designed 10 guilty people will walk free before one Innocent person is jailed wrongfully. If you agree with the basic premise of someone being killed while killing someone else, then why are you against a jury of peers granting justice to the person who had their life unjustly taken from them?"
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The gruesome reality of executions in america
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d86FT4D3Keg
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/r/videos/comments/qiaia7/chonk_gets_weighed/
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[
"The S Q U I S H\n\nThere will be a children's book, the squish and the fish",
"I love that his head/neck looks like my penis when it's cold. 🍆",
"I like that she looks at the weight and is like \"Look at those numbers! Those are rookie numbers! Gotta get those up!\" And starts shoving fish in its mouth.",
"I love how she says thanks afterwards. Respect the seals",
"Lol wtf",
"“i cant let you get close”",
"Chonk wasn't heavy enough, had to add an extra kilo of fish.\n\nI love these Japanese seals though, here's another from same place doing the squish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFRxQjHNE6c",
"That was a nasty line by you.",
"Just to correct you, there never was no neck.",
"That seal speaks Japanese",
"I've been obsessed with seals and sea lions since I watched this (long) video about the difference between them -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUaNHA-WQWg",
"\"fucking amateur\"",
"Aww. Tucking its head in? That's cheating lol",
"Is this some kind of sushi market?",
"that guy's not circumsized",
"The fucking head squish when she leans to close.\n\nI just imagine him grumpily murmuring everytime lol",
"Some say she's still there, feeding him fish to this day",
"He came out underweight so she's adding more lol",
"That concerned look.. What is the prognosis doc? Am I overweight?",
"Doing the worm to get in position lol",
"Hes reachn for them anchovies",
"Very entertaining vid, thanks for sharing",
"chew your food bro!",
"HeCKiN ChOnKeRs DoEs A SliPPy Boi!!1",
"I never thought I'd watch an entire 25 minute video explaining seals, fur seals, and sea lions. That was a good video.",
"Damn, this guy has two videos on his channel: a video of cheetahs making sounds and then this masterpiece. The first thing he actually wrote and put together is better than 99% of the shit on youtube. I wish he had more stuff.",
"Want to see my head disappear? ~*thwump*~",
"The fuck is this, the r/MMA channel?",
"I mean, it was well behaved in getting on the scale.\n\nBut was it *really* a 5 piece of fish effort?",
"\"You're a little close mam, could you back the fuck up slightly? Thx.\"",
"So does that lady!!!",
"It was really cute that she talked to it the whole time, including saying amazing after she first saw the weight on the scale. \"Amazing, thank you.\"",
"WANNANOW",
"Put him on a diet. . . of more fishes!",
"I love when seals go scrunchy face!",
"It has no business being that cute",
"Well it’s because you give him 5 treats for 1 trick...",
"I want to hug",
"Respect the chonk or you get the bonk.",
"It looked like he was backing up when she was bent over him , as if to say “personal space, madam!”",
"At least check the date on the video before you repost, eh, bub?"
] | 43 |
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Chonk gets weighed
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSaF7CNqaLM&t=1s
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/r/videos/comments/qib7n4/everything_facebook_revealed_about_the_metaverse/
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[
"Fuck Facebook",
"\\*F\\*ck Meta \n\nFTFY ;-)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nIm not sure i would be that harsh though because some things with facebook are good and some things are really bad. Some of the problems with facebook are also a result of human nature. Humans suck. If we all could agree on that we could collectively work together to try to suck less.",
"Exactly. *swipes over to FB*",
"Well said. Your thoughts are practical and it does make sense."
] | 4 |
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Everything Facebook Revealed About The Metaverse In 2021 I Facebook
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnZH4izf_rI
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/r/videos/comments/qib88y/spot_me_up_the_rolling_stones_boston_dynamics/
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[
"Its cool that some people have those kind of movements seem so natural. I could never move that way and feel comfortable but when he does it looks awesome. Its like dorky movements but his confidence makes it turn to become really cool instead.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nEdit: i just realized that i didn't care so much about the robots so I'm probably not impressed by them anymore. I'm guessing Boston Dynamics have to step up their game a bit. Perhaps more human like robots that would be more impressive. Looked, walked and danced like humans.",
"3rd time I've seen this South Korean propaganda today. This is how \"they\" are normalizing these soon to be killing machines.",
"Boston Dynamics videos, increasingly terrifying.",
"\"if you start me up, I'll never stop\"\n\nWhen someone (skynet) tells you who they are, believe them.",
"Please, please, please program two of these robots to do \"Dancing in the Streets.\" It is something the world needs to see..",
"It won't be as cute when the end of that arm is a mini cannon.",
"“You make a grown man cry”",
"I'd support the fight against killing machines and massive militaries, but I would not support arbitrarily dismissing tech that has any number of purposes. You will see these far more often on building sites, conducting inspections. Railing against militarization is fine in the right context. This is not one of those times.",
"And yet I just want *more*",
"So where are the eyes at? The black spot on the chest? The singing tentacle/claw/head reminds me of the gravemind from halo 2.",
"What's terrifying is that they stopped abusing the robots in the videos... where are the humans?! Has anyone looked into this?",
"These vids hit different knowing that they're already putting guns on these bots",
"I think Boston Dynamics might be based out of the United States. I don't know why I think Boston Dynamics is based out of the United States, just a hunch.",
"It already is 🎉🎉🎉\n\nhttps://techcrunch.com/2021/10/21/guns-on-robots/",
"\"Jenkins why the hell have you requested use of 5 of our SPOT robots? Do you KNOW how much they cost?\"\n\n\"Oh yeah sir, I just wanted to do a little pet project to test the fine control and maneuvering of the arms\"\n\n\"Hmm, well go ahead, but this better be worth it!\"\n\n10 months later: **THIS VIDEO**",
"I mean it's cool for a video but this seems like a massive waste of money. The amount of programming involved to move the same way is probably enormous, meaning expensive. Can't help but feel massive wastes of money is part of the problem nowadays. Considering Boston Dynamics and not an individual is taking claim, this isn't some side project from someone who worked there.",
"Yeah, used to be fun and inspiring. Now the better the robots get, the more I want them sealed in concrete far underground. A king's burial with a gem-encrusted sarcophagus, a hidden map, an ancient treasure, and a forgotten weapon to keep them appeased.",
"Spot's OS: Windows 95",
"Does it also feel weird when you drive a car? Or fly? Both of those things can also have guns attached.",
"Explain to me why this is a waste of money.",
"Weapon mounted vehicles were invented before I was born. Eventually weapon mounted robot dogs will be normalized and I hate that inevitability. \n\n\nHow long until disarming a robotdogcop is considered violence against a police officer?",
"In the middle of the next war when machines from each side are fighting a hacker will turn on dance mode and we will all be treated to something like this",
"Why would you want to hurt the shiny good boy?\n\nThey don’t even exist yet and Ive already (anthropomorphized?) them.\n\nIs that the word for “Wilson-ing” an inanimate object?",
"Not in the typical way, because they have no self-learning/self-teaching function. All those moves are just programed and a repeated routine in a set environment. They are great at moving, they have balance and at this point are able to diverge from a preplanned route if their set work order, but they can't do or learn anything that hasn't been taught to them.",
"Not as cool as pissing beer into a cup.",
"Because they're shooting at brown people because the facial recognition algorithm isn't built for correctly matching melanated faces.",
"How is it a waste of money? It probably took a couple of engineers maybe a couple of weeks to program the movements. The video is also an advertisement.",
"cool now do \"this is america\"",
"I, for one, welcome our new rock & roll robot overlords.",
"> are able to diverge from a preplanned route if their set work order,\n\nSET work_order = 'KILL'",
"Wonder if it uses the whole body to aim or just have the smaller barrel move inside the larger one for precision.\n\nYou'd think the latter, but that large barrel doesn't look like it'd allow for that big of movement.",
"I've got a bunch of green tip 5.56 ammo. Was going to find storewide to swap with for range rounds, but I think I'll just keep it.",
"I always hear Weird Al's version in my head. 'Windows 9555555, its eating up my driiiiiiive'",
"Smart man.",
"What? Where? Oh shit, you meant me. Right. So, believe it or not, I'm a female liberal firearms enthusiast.\n\nTrying to decide whether my next purchase will be an AK/AR chambered in 7.62x39 or that pretty Israeli FAL in 7.62NATO I've been going back to look at on gunbroker repeatedly...",
"Smart Ma'am!",
"🙋♀️",
"I'm also a lefty gun rights dude. I just live in NYC which precludes you from owning almost anything worthwhile imo.",
"Why do you stay? I'm not hating on NYC but the city seems to have changed for the worse and many have left. I watch Louis Rossman and he's had some things to say about NYC real estate... seems like he's serious about moving his business out as well.",
"Employee: \"Hey boss can I borrow 3 of the spot dogs please? Oh and I will also need the number for Mick Jagger, a drum rental, a computer controlled camera, some CPU time.on the mainframe and about a week dedicated to this task.\"\n\nSome explaining later.\n\nBoss: \"You Son of a Bitch, I'm In\"",
"These look crazy similar to doc ocks tentacles in Spider-Man 2. So eerie haha.",
"How long is it going to be until they post the video with no music and altered sound? [like this one for dancing in the streets witch is my absolute fav](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHkhIjG0DKc)",
"I work for city have less that 2 years till pension. Real estate is fantastic. I bought my home in '14 fix r upper for 435k. Easy worth 725 now. Can't beat return like that. But city has gone to shit crime, speed xams everywhere. Can't run a business without state killing you in fines /regs. It's truly awful.",
"Honestly how the hell was this guy such a sex symbol",
"The humans have been real quiet [since sniper bot dropped](https://techcrunch.com/2021/10/21/guns-on-robots/)",
"I guess in his case he's looking at commercial leases which are prohibitively bad. Also you bought your place before the current insanity which makes a huge difference! That pension is almost in reach, congrats! Then you can move to a redder state with as shitty government but get your tax stamp and go full auto!",
"Terrifying implication that the machines can’t be stopped now",
"Why yes, remote controlled airplanes with guns are also very scary and should be *way* more talked about.",
"Man imagine you're working for a company that develops robots that are clearly designed for military applications, and your job is to make elaborate cute fun videos with those robots to make the public think of anything *but* these things with guns attached to them.",
"Couple weeks where they could be doing other stuff.. someone is paying for that time, I'm aware it's not a popular opinion, and it's not as much of a waste as the billionaires and their joyride rockets, but there's homeless and starving people in america, should we be wasting money on pointless things like this? It's the rolling stones they don't need the help of boston dynamics, they're pretty well established, with or without this \"advertisement\" it's going to sell. It's a 40th anniversary, not like they just came out and need the help. Are you aware of how much it cost a couple of engineers to program for a couple of weeks? It's not cheap. This isn't some backyard wikipedia researched project, this is Boston Dynamics, the people they have working there, doubtfully work for cheap.",
"They more they make the robots cute and funny the more welcoming people will be to them in the future.",
"> All those moves are just programed and a repeated routine in a set environment.\n\nFurther more, a lot of it is just trial and error by humans until they get it right, which makes it even less terrifying.\n\nTheir last video where the robots do some \"parkour\" stuff, the behind the scenes showed how much the robots fell, and the staff they have to fix them. It's not just run here, flip there, done, and the robot does it flawlessly. They have to adjust and tweak the mechanics of the moves otherwise the robots will flub it and fall over. And when they fall over they often break something and they have a whole support staff which is fixing the robots that just fell over and broke something.\n\nHonestly, Boston Dynamics feels like a good PR company at this point. They've been pumping out these videos for a decade, and the robots are certainly impressive, but they can't actually *do* anything useful. It's a big production to look good on these choreographed videos and that's about it.",
"They can do actual work with additional programing, but the base version is a pretty barebones robot who can walk pretty well, but nothing like in the videos and promos. And not much more than previous robots, mostly moving on tracks. \n\n[Artificial intelligence software expands capabilities of Boston Dynamics’ Spot robot ](https://www.vision-systems.com/embedded/article/14179537/artificial-intelligence-software-expands-boston-dynamics-spot-robot-capabilities).\n\n[Boston Dynamics' Spot robot dog is finally doing useful work](https://www.fastcompany.com/90431653/the-robotic-pooch-from-boston-dynamics-viral-videos-is-ready-for-real-work)\n\n[Spot the robot dog carries out safety inspections](https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories/grid-work-stories/spot-robot-dog-carries-out-safety-inspections)",
"Cute little force multipliers.",
"I'll be singing this when I'm running from one of these for my future thought crime offenses.",
"Different company, called Ghost.",
"> because enough people have decided it looks cool, then it does become cool.\n\nThis, by the way, is how anything becomes cool.",
"Split hairs all you want, companies will sell these things to anyone and then those people can put guns on em. Effect is the same.",
"Do yourself of a favor and look up \"fallacy of relative privation\". You come off as someone with the maturity of a high schooler.",
"Show me where I'm wrong then? I'm willing to bet you can't, so you just throw fancy buzz words that you, yourself probably don't actually know the meaning of.. Especially because what I said is in fact the opposite of the fallacy of relative privation. If I was following the fallacy I'd be rejecting some claim made, by producing a bigger claim. What I'm doing is pointing out the hypocrisy of people spending tons of money on essentially wasteful things, when there are people in need, that could use the help more than some robot dogs and a well known band. \nI'm not comparing this to war, I'm not comparing this to anything, so please tell me how I'm supposedly using the fallacy."
] | 61 |
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“Spot Me Up” | The Rolling Stones & Boston Dynamics - Boston Dynamics
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca-D9weiY7A
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/r/videos/comments/qibp62/secrets_of_the_cias_final_days_in_vietnam/
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[
"We all know Vietnam was a mess but it's amazing how hard the top brass drank their own Kool-aid and how unprepared and cowardly they were.",
"Skipped around cause I'm on lunch, actually pretty interesting. The one CIA dude seems pretty Ernest and down to earth. I'll definitely give it a watch. Thanks!",
"[Surprise, Kill, Vanish: The Secret History of CIA Paramilitary Armies, Operators, and Assassins - By Annie Jacobsen](https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07PWHZK2H/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_VKC88SG7D38YTSVXVG9Q)\n\nThis is an incredibly interesting book as well and covers a lot of Vietnam work, but also Cuba and Panama iirc..",
"He talks like Agent Smith at some points.",
"man does this sound familiar"
] | 5 |
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Secrets of the CIA's Final Days in Vietnam
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https://youtu.be/XnZH4izf_rI
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/r/videos/comments/qic6a7/boston_dynamics_the_rolling_stones_spot_me_up/
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[
"this is fucking impressive ... imagine the A.I. pairing with advanced Robotics :))",
"This is the 4th time this South Korean propaganda has been posted on this sub today. This is how these killing machines are being normalized. These robots are being weaponized as we speak.",
"They are not “killing machines.” Can they be used as such? Sure. But technology is a double edged sword.",
"Yea this isn’t creepy at all.",
"Fantastic. I don’t even care that it’s a commercial. I do think their previous video was better, but I hope they continue. \n\nMaybe they’ll do the Macarena next.",
"Give it a month and they'll be playing the instruments too",
"Sir where the fuck do you think Boston is",
"That is so creepy and unsettling. The robot makes it even weirder!",
"this video is equal parts amazing and horrifying.",
"Duh, South Korea, obviously",
"Boston Dynamics has been owned by the Hyundai Motor Group since December 2020 So technically he is correct."
] | 11 |
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Boston Dynamics + The Rolling Stones = Spot Me Up
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https://youtu.be/atv8pf0jBNE
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/r/videos/comments/qic8pu/when_you_see_a_lore_video_for_a_franchise_you/
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[
"I'll have to sign up for his patreon so I can learn more about the kftqkad84laldsa race.",
"That was great! I cracked up every time he said \"Arrerrorrer\".",
"now \"Arrerrorr\", after the great war.",
"This was glorious.\n\n I can count the minutes and hours until my life is over. I just have no time for deep lore like this anymore.\n\nActually, I dont think I ever really did. Trying to understand the Similarian as a young teen broke me I think.",
"Tbh it feels like this even with stuff I do know about. Especially Lord of the rings.",
"The Great Warrr of Arrerrorr-er",
"Looks based of Nerd of the Rings who does LOTR videos in this style.",
"It feels like a direct parody.",
"Aaah fuck, this is me with dune right now.",
"I feel like this any time I watch/read a new fantasy series. Everything sounds dumb and cheesy.\n\nMe three months later: \"Olórin came to Mithlond (in the realm of Lindon) and was named Mithrandir by the elf-folk. The men of Arnor had another name for him...\"",
"Might I interest you in some nerd cookies?\n\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/c/NerdCookies",
"This is literally how cults isolate their members. They give you a bunch of gibberish \"in words\" which become natural but serve to isolate you from outsiders.\n\nEdit: Not to say fantasy fandom has anything to do with cults, just made me think of it",
"Honestly, through channels like thebrokensword, men of the west, and nerd of the rings, I have learned so much Lotr lore and I've never even read the books. I watch the videos exclusively to fall asleep to.",
"Check out Nerd of the Rings, The Broken Sword and Men of the West YouTube channels for good Lotr lore videos.",
"Strong Oblivion vibes",
"Also pretty sure that \"Dragon of the North\" patreon screenshot in this video is from the Nerd of the Ring patreon.",
"I’m a couple hundred hours deep into the wheel of time and there are so many people that show back up that I’m like who the fuck are you again?",
"funniest thing about it for me is as a dnd player and dungeon master. I know the EXACT websites he used for the map and the portraits lmao.\n\nportraits: [https://rolladvantage.com/tokenstamp/](https://rolladvantage.com/tokenstamp/)\n\nMap: [https://inkarnate.com/](https://inkarnate.com/)",
"Also known as the Error of Arrerrorrer",
"Same, I just started reading it and thought I was going crazy because I saw things like *CHOAM* referenced several times before they explained it — although the acronym laid out isn’t all that helpful, either.",
"Don't cut yourself short, it worked for L. Ron Hubbard.",
">thebrokensword\n\n\"Build me an army worthy of Mordor\"\n\nYeah. Ok. I do admit, I have watched a few of those. Probably about 10. And it was for things I was curious about like what's the difference between orcs and goblins, and Tom Bombadil, and Gandalf and of course a more in depth look at the ring amongst other things.",
"I feel so bad. I want to read recaps so I can get to the Brandon sanderson stuff. But I also hate recaps because it only gets to the summary points and not the meat of the story. Like a stone skipping on a lake. \n\nI would have to read all those books again (I think I stopped at 9 or 10?) to get the FULL story. And I can't do that to myself ever again."
] | 25 |
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When you see a lore video for a franchise you know nothing about
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O-aAG25OxA
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/r/videos/comments/qicl6j/charizard_vs_magmar_pokémon_adventures_in_the/
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[
"Only posted this because I think its criminal not to have a comments section for these videos.",
"Presumably it's because there'll be a lot of children watching, right?",
"Isn't this the Cinnabar Island gym battle?",
"Magmar is so ugly.",
"Crazy how after all these years, I can see a thumbnail of an OG Pokémon fight and think “That’s the Seismic Toss fight!”"
] | 5 |
videos
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Charizard vs. Magmar! | Pokémon: Adventures in the Orange Islands | Official Clip - Comments Disabled on Original Video
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJFVV2L8GKs
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/r/videos/comments/qid4hn/the_witcher_season_2_official_trailer_netflix/
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[
"New Witcher and Wheel of Time over the next 2 months. Good time for fantasy nerds (hopefully).\n\nOn a side note, enjoyed the Kanye soundtrack on that trailer very much. It's very much in line with the Witcher being gritty but also not taking itself too seriously.",
"Not to diminish your opinion, the trailer looked good but the music really killed the mood for me. Felt like if they put Jay z over a Lord of the rings trailer.\n\nI think in general my personal opinion is I don't really like when they put modern music over something that's supposed to be medievalish or scifi. 😝",
"I imagine some exec just wanted Kanye in the trailer and would not take no for an answer or something.",
"terrible music choice for the trailer, but hyped for this. And then we also have Wheel of Time in November, i don't know what to do with myself.",
"Lol.. \"we got to have Kanye or I'm shutting this shit down... NOW!\"",
"I think it is totally fine to disagree!\n\nMy take is that LOTR is 'high' fantasy whereas the Witcher is more in the 'gritty/real' school so it works better. I totally agree that modern music would be out of place in LOTR etc",
"The music was just so jarring. I don't usually notice bgm, but this was super weird.",
"It'll be interesting to see how they manage story lines this time around. Last time they had the benefit of not being tied down to being in the present, it let them do things like the last wish or the gold dragon stories while sprinkling in Ciri bits. Now that the stories have converged, we'll see how it goes. \n\nAlso, yes, the music sucked.",
"neat. I hope it's as good as the first season.",
"Ugh this is it. Somebody high up was listening to this track during their spin class and thought “Wait, monster? Monster… Geralt fights… oh my god!”",
"Hyyyyype",
"Let's see...\n\n* More monsters;\n* More witching;\n* More Jaskier; \n\nAlright, I'm in.",
"Did I catch a red haired Triss in there?",
"The trailer looked incredible but it felt like netflix paid Kanye to use the track in something this year and they went fuck it we're running out of time we may as well jam it into this.",
"Not enough 'Hmm' though!",
"Banger of a song but yep, totally jarring.",
"I happened to be at Fountains Abbey the day after they'd been filming for this season and were packing up some of the props. My dog ate some poop of one of the horses they were using",
"they said it will be more linear. there are a lot of short stories, it might be a monster of the week type story per episode with the overarching war and ciri holding it all together for the whole season.",
">On a side note, enjoyed the Kanye soundtrack on that trailer very much. It's very much in line with the Witcher being gritty but also not taking itself too seriously.\n\ni thought it was a great choice too. apparently that is not the prevailing opinion on the sub, hah.",
"Kind of like how the game is played. Fuck off for a week or so doing contracts and exploring the map. Only to realize the main quest is now 10 levels under you and you should probably get back to the war and finding Ciri. But hey maybe a round or 20 of Gwent couldn't hurt...right?",
"they typed 'monster' into spotify",
"WTF is american rap doing in a witcher trailer LUL",
"Now this is what I browse the comments for. These little brown nuggets make my mornings at work.",
"Current release date: Dec 17, 2021",
"...right?",
"* More goblins\n* More ghouls\n* More zombies with no conscience",
"I don't think it's the song choice in and of itself so much as the constant volume dips to hear dialogue from the show, it really messed with the momentum",
"Did you keep it after you recovered it? You know, as a souvenir?",
"Oh nice, it looks like they improved that shitty Nilfgaardian armor from season one. \n\nLooks like at: [1:49](https://youtu.be/TJFVV2L8GKs?t=109)\n\nAnd maybe also at: [1:36](https://youtu.be/TJFVV2L8GKs?t=96)\n\nStill a little too fanciful for my taste, but better than whatever the fuck they were trying to do in S1.",
"The Gwent episode in season 2 is going to be lit.",
"Here's hoping if there are scenes at different times or time skips they do them better than the first season. That seemed to be everyone's complaint that I talked to was they didn't really understand the timeline of shit. Could have just added X years ago at the bottom of the screen when they went back to before ciri was born and yennifer became who she was.",
"Fucking Kanye and Jay-Z for a trailer set in a universe as rich as this. The plot stills seems like a janky mess of storylines.",
"Lol what the fuck is up with this music? Why does every trailer need shitty hip hop these days",
"Interesting trailer. Horrible music choice for a fantasy series. Doesn't fit the feel even a little. I want to like this series but I find it to be lackluster in a lot of ways that I can't quite put my finger on. I love cavill as geralt but the rest of the cast aren't very memorable or interesting.",
"Found the dog.",
"Wtf are you talking about that ruled",
"yennifer is an absolut rocket",
"Hey those two shots of Ciri running towards the waterfall surrounded by cliffs is at the Goredale Scar in Yorkshire!",
"Stoked for season 2 but why is there a rap song in an ad for the Witcher? Doesn't fit and makes it look like some cheesy fast and furious ad.",
"I really like it because you get to see people receive swords in their necks but then they censor the cuss words. Reinforces this is the most interesting timeline",
"Wheel of time looks weird af, you think it will be good?",
"Wheel of Time looks like a mid 90s TV show; I am far from excited.",
"Wtf is this fantasy armour? This is worse than Season 1 when it comes to costumes.\n\nStraight up plate from World of Warcraft and LARP studded leather...\n\n[This](https://i.imgur.com/CjlVm16.jpg) looks like a porn parody",
"Can’t wait for season 3 in 2028",
"That rolling camera shot was SWEET.",
"I'm having a hard time putting my thoughts and feelings into words.. I loved the Witcher books and video games, but when I tried to watch Season 1 of this Netflix show, I couldn't get into it. I didn't get past the second episode. I think it just sort of looked low-budget. Or maybe the budget just wasn't *big enough*.. I dunno.. Like I said I'm having a hard time putting my thoughts into words..\n\nThere's something about it; I don't know if it's the lack of color grading or if it's just super high definition, but all the costumes *look like costumes*. If you can understand what I mean.. A lot of the acting *feels like acting*. It *feels like* a production. It doesn't look or feel *real*.. Little things in this trailer like the blood spotches all over actors' faces in many of the serious dialogue scenes are distractingly fake looking.. I think maybe my expectations were just too high. It's like I wanted Game of Thrones level production and got a CW show instead..",
"Needs more \"Place of power. Gotta be.\"",
"ITT: People who don't like hip hop in 'muh fantuhseeeeeeeeeee reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee'",
"Hey buddy, calm down. Don't forget what happened in 2020. There was this bug that shut everything down and it took a while for a vaccine to come out so they could more safely reopen.",
"Seriously the music is so shitty. I would have expected the dark sombre music similar to the witcher 3 game but this hip hop. For Fuck sake the show is a based in ancient times. No rapper was born then",
"Yup Triss and Ciri",
"Season one was so bad. I couldn't even finish it. If you like it that's fine but this show could have been so so much more than what it ended up being. Instead, it's another mediocre series with no soul or passion behind it that's just sorta there to pad out Netflix's library.",
"Can't be worse than legend of the seeker right??",
"Overall just throw over any of the amazing game tracks ans you'd be good. Silver for monsters would have been fine with some shaving and timing.",
"I thought this was a trailer for Black Knight 2 bc of the shitty music",
"Lets go!!!!",
"Horse shit is less of a brown nugget and more of a mound of brownie batter",
"They ruined a great opportunity, i didn’t finish the first season either, absolute shit show.",
"I feel they will have changed a lot from the books, notably mixing a couple event from later books together for the first season. I am however cautiously optimistic, as I have liked the trailers so far minus some small details.",
"Question, what do these things all have in common?",
"Please add this to IMDb",
"As long as he doesn't kill Groot!",
"Because it's a trailer and doesn't fucking matter.",
"_The host presents a cabinet before him to a visiting lady. On it is a single shelf. In the center a single small white marble coaster. And on it a turd._\n\n\"Right, and in this cabinet--yes, it's air-tight, thank god--is the poop of the poop of the horse that was once used on the second season of The Witcher.\" He says with a big grin.\n\n\"The poop of the-\"\n\n\"Yes, my dog ate the horse's poop, and this is the poop of that poop.\" \n\n\"You...waited until he pooped it?\" \n\n\"Yes, of course. How else would I get it?\" \n\n\"How do you know it's the same poop?\" \n\n\"There are many ways.\" \n\n\"Like?\" \n\nThe Host's eyes dart left and right. \"Look...smell.\" \n\nThey stare at each other awkwardly. She looks at him and squints.\n\n\"You tasted it didn't you?\" \n\n\"I did not!\" \n\n\"And that's how you know. That it's not the dog's 'normal' brand.\" \n\n\"M'lady!\" The host gags. He looks up at her with tears in his eyes. \"How did you know?!\"\n\n\"I know a shit-eating grin when I see one.\"",
"My wife LOVED this series. Watching it made me replay Witcher 3, and my wife watched me playing it like it was a movie LOL! \n\nI would come home from work and she would be all \"Are you going to play? I need to see what happens to that village!\"",
"Monster is a fucking banger. Obviously doesn't fit the tone of the show at all but this trailer is the big shiny explosive one anyway, so it fits with that energy.",
"How do you wear [this](https://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2020/01/witcher-nilfgaad-armour-1578587461026_1280w.jpg?fit=bounds&width=640&height=480) and not have a \"are we the baddies?\" moment?",
"I would be way more stoked for this if I didn't see the Witcher anime on Netflix. That was the best representation of the world imo.",
"That sounds like a more compelling story than Witcher Season 1.",
"Looks very good. I think the show should also have little 10 minute adventures that are basically different witchers doing their monster hunting thing. It would be a great outlet to introduce other witchers and other characters and monsters.",
"Is your dog a labrador retriever?",
"*Thank you!* I kept wondering what vibe I was getting from the show, and *Legend of the Seeker* was absolutely it.",
"Big fan of the books and replayed all three games multiple times. I loved the show. Took me a bit but once my mind settled on it being more of a serial with an overarching plot like Xena or Hercules it all clicked for me and I was able to let go and actually enjoy the content as it was presented. Sometimes it's all about frame of mind and the expectation you have going into something. \n\nVery excited about season 2. Also, the trailer song sucked, haha.",
"I am excited.",
"A house that attacks!?",
"Unpopular opinion but cyrilla is the worst part of the witcher story, such a bland \"superhero\" character. Just give me Geralt going from little town to little town solving monster problems forever please.",
"Yeah very out of place",
"Ball sack skin armor. Nice!",
"No. Labrador Akita cross. She's dumb as the shit she eats",
"Hope you get to share this in the DVD commentary.",
"There's more of them?",
"Not a dog, a Squatch. Next best thing.",
"hmmm, fuck..",
"I am 100% with you. I went in really wanting to enjoy it but after like 4 episodes I tapped out. It felt like some modern Xena bullshit, it was incredibly cringey to watch. Felt remarkably generic.",
"More gwent...?",
"I can't forget it\n\nWhy you did it\n\nI won't permit it\n\nAnd won't acquit it\n\nI want to fight you\n\nI'll fucking bite you\n\n- godzilla",
"When you dry your armor without a dryer sheet",
"looks worse than season 1 sadly",
"Did they put in the spoon witch?",
"important trivia",
"I know right? This takes place even before Run DMC!",
"Come discuss it over at /r/witcher \\- we'd love to hear your thoughts!\n\nAlso shoutout to /r/netflixwitcher but there I can't ban you.",
"Looks like the budget has increased significantly this time around",
"This is the kind of shit I look for in the comments.",
"Thank you. So many pissy comments about the music. It’s not like it’s gonna be in the show.",
"COME WITH ME",
"Don't sell your dog, hang on to him as he may be a collector's item",
"Bro, read the books before you put disrespect on Ciri’s name. She is a great character.",
"Someone make an edit with better fitting music?",
"Show reminded me of the very campy live action Hercules show from the 90's. Not at all what I was expecting after seeing the 1st season's trailer and the success of Game of Thrones. Was lacking any grit, everything felt like it was shot on a set, cinematography was very bland, dialog and acting was 90's camp, and the story was an incoherent mess.",
"Looks awesome and I can't wait but the Kanye music was very out of place.",
"wait when were they filming at fountains abbey?",
"A sassy squatch?",
"Lmao",
"probably not that drastic, but when you're working in a hierarchical structure and someone a rung or more above you wants something, you have to decide if this fight is worth spending your time and negotiating capital on\n\nand the trailer music probably wasn't worth it to almost anyone",
"\"Wind's howling.\"",
"hey, just wanted to let you know, this comment section is about the trailer\n\nseemed like you might have missed that",
"We're here to comment on the trailer and thus its reasonable for us to criticize it.",
"in the end nothing really matters",
"Without Ciri, Geralt is a bland monster killer after the initial fun wears off. His character development and human side are inseparable from his relationship with Ciri. Not unlike how Mandalorian would run bland after a while if he didn't have a purpose with the baby yoda.\n\nIt isn't like the show is called Ciri.",
"Less Nilfgaardian wrinkly ballsack armor too.",
"... that fucking *delivered*. Bravo. I legitimately applauded upon reading that final line.",
"I just went back and watched Witcher Season 1 Episode 3. The reveal of Yennifer and the battle against the cursed witch thing was just epic.",
"Still hyped. Still have no idea wtf is going on.",
"What's with that music?",
"hahaha actually!",
"Bezos wanted his own Game of Thrones. So at a minimum, they will be funding it. The trailers are filled with book reader red meat, but manage to keep most of how they are adapting it somewhat a mystery. \n\nSo to answer your questions, it all depends on how well they adapt the books without butchering it. It has the same problem as Dune where the source material is very rich and the story telling has a lot of internal monologues. Personally I am stoked, but I will be pissed if they screw it up.",
"\"Fuck.\"",
"Nice trailer ugh unfitting music to appeal to the masses",
"yay!",
"hopefully with a generous helping of \"Fuck\"s",
"Yeah, I mean, I love \"Monster,\" but this did not fit at all, especially since they had to blank out every other word due to all the cursing.",
"At least the Shanarra chronicles (despite having Manu Bennet) was marginally better then that trainwreck, with Rafe Judkins at the helm and from what Daniel Green/Naeblis have to say about the show I have nothign but high expectations from it.\n\nRegardless we have a wonderfully written (despite some slog) book series to fall back on and very well done audio books (and a new set coming out with the current actors as well).",
"And it's practical because the little nooks and crannies keep the arrows and sword tips from just skipping off. Oh, wait.",
"he's talking about the movie character.",
"That's gonna have to be an entire multi episode arc if we're basing it off my average Witcher 3 playthrough",
"Get off my look lawn you kids.",
"Many really iconic and long running shows have a rough first season though. Parks and Rec, The Office, Stargate SG-1, Star Trek the Next Generation etc. Can you imagine swearing off Patrick Stewart and Bret Spiner because of how awkward next generation was at first? \n\nI was not super down with every change or decision, especially Yen's actress and the portrayal of other key charachters but Cavill is a perfect Geralt. I agree the time-jumps were jarring, but the show-runner said they are [not going to rely on them going forward](https://www.indiewire.com/2020/06/the-witcher-season-2-no-multiple-timelines-1202237782/) for the same reason. They just wanted to create the backstory. \n\n\n[Also not sure what you mean about monster hunting. Most of the first season revolved around monster fights.](https://screenrant.com/witcher-netflix-season-1-geralt-rivia-creatures-fights/) \n\nI would encourage you to give it another shot. But if you do not, that is okay too.",
"Yeah, the dips were very abrupt and distracting. That's why you shouldn't use a song with vocal elements because you have to dip more aggressively",
"I'm not REALLY mad, but it's kind of weird to have Kanye West mixed with The Witcher, not sure what they were going for there.\n\nThat aside, this season looks dope as fuck. Can't wait to see where we end up in the books by the end. I'm REALLY hoping for Aretuza this season, but I don't know",
"Am I the only one hyped to see the motherfucking [Hell House](https://i2-prod.dailystar.co.uk/tech/gaming/article21821083.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_FINAL-FANTASY-VII-REMAKE_20200402173034.png) at 1:42?",
"Well, Wheel of Time *is* weird af...",
"Yea it's a good song off one of my favorite albums of all time. But holy fuck is that a bad choice for this trailer lol",
"Everyone to Vilgefortz: >!<",
"Y'all remember the album that was part of witcher 1? The most rap-like song was probably ... nothing?",
"It was unnecessary for sure but also easy as shit to follow",
"C'mon, good trailers are a nice thing to have in and of themselves. Nothing wrong with being irritated that nowadays they're all getting farmed out to the same hack corporation, that mindlessly applies the same formula.",
"Sometime after the second lockdown. They'd been filming through the night",
"“Looks like rain.”",
"These words can only have been spoken by someone who didn't experience TV in the mid 90s.",
"The music itself might not have even been *that* terrible. It's the rapping that really seems out of place.\n\nI feel like the general rule of fantasy is that music, singing, and lyrics should sound like they're possibly from in-universe, and some guy rapping like he's straight outta Compton completely destroys that illusion.",
"I watched the full first season and enjoyed it for the most part, but I definitely felt the same way. It makes me wonder if things like Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones were \"lightning in a bottle\" moments in the fantasy genre and we have to accept that it's nearly impossible to meet those standards, because almost every other fantasy show I've watched feels the way you described The Witcher. Even Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones struggled to sustain that illusive quality to engross the viewer in its world if you consider the Hobbit and the later seasons of Game of Thrones.",
"Finally!!! I can only re-watch S1 so many times! \n\nIn all seriousness tho, Witcher is one my favorite Netflix original things in a while, I thought it was superb from start to finish. S2 in 7ish weeks legooo",
"Are they different characters though? The Netflix series is based off of the books.\n\nI totally get that Ciri isn’t super compelling (yet) in the Netflix series, as most of the first season was just worldbuilding, and the non-linear storyline didn’t really help with the whole “child surprise” arc, but she really is a super important and tragically interesting character that deserves more time in the spotlight, not less. If you read the books, you’ll understand.",
"I think they replaced the person in charge of costuming/wardrobe",
"angriest applause of my life tho",
"What kind of degenerates watch trailers? You already know what it's about, who's in it, and when it's coming out. Why the fuck do you want to see anything besides that? Stupid peoples.",
"I think the biggest problem having lyrics in the song with a voiceover. Either you want the lyrics to play on their own and enhance the visuals, or you want a voiceover to do the work. Having both at the same time was too much, and then tonally it didn't really seem to fit",
"every facial expression in the background says they're thinking exactly the same thing",
"I'm here for GROOT jokes",
"I think I know what I will do 17 December",
"How to say you haven’t read the books without saying you haven’t read the books",
"Hopefully there will be better pacing/writing in this season.",
"Seriously like wtf are they talking about?",
"They did, there were some good parts of the season 1 costumer (Geralt as Leather Pants Ross) and some truly terrible bits (ballsack armor, a dress made entirely plastic rope).",
"You mean the Gwent season with sprinkles of Witchering.",
"If you’re talking about what I think you’re talking about that’s something that’s only in the CD Projekt Red game so probably not",
"Yes but that sounded *good*",
"Same here. I read all the books years ago, and I’m a big fan of the games, but I didn’t finish season 1, and I won’t be watching season 2. Just couldn’t get into it. I wish they just followed the story of the saga, which would give us a perfect GoT-like show. I don’t know.",
"[ **Jump to 01:42 @** The Witcher Season 2 | Official Trailer | Netflix](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJFVV2L8GKs&t=0h1m42s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Netflix, Video Popularity: 98.19%, Video Length: [02:50])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@01:37](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJFVV2L8GKs&t=0h1m37s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)",
"Sign me up for epic trailer music any day of the week with videos like this",
"ITT: people who understand that Kanye West might not be most fitting BGM choice for a show with magic and dragons",
"The Witcher subreddit is kind of toxic imo. Just look at the comments about the poster that was released. It's a mountain of comments about how nothing is right and everyone is ugly.",
"Could really do without the lame ass Kanye in this",
"> straight outta Compton\n\nLmao please stop",
"Outstanding",
"Interesting musical selection for the trailer. \n\nA bit anticlimatic if they ask me, but I love the song so It's fine",
"Cannot wait, best thing to happen this year ha",
"It's true, there can be a lot for negativity. That's why I linked to the other subreddit that i don't run. I believe it has to do with the fact that /r/witcher is for all types of fans. Opinions differ when people come from different perspectives (Books, games, show..)",
"I am firmly in the \"first season was pretty shit but will still watch season 2 because there was promising pieces\" camp.",
"Also, of all the verses, they went with Jay's? oof",
"The true crime is they used Jay-Z’s weak verse in lieu of Nicki Minaj’s.",
"Not everything fantasy related has to have the Warcraft tavern music as it’s backing track. I don’t care that it’s Kanye, it’s that people are pissed it’s ‘hip hop’ or ‘American rap’ that makes me laugh.",
"lol do you really want me to explain why I like it? You're free to not like it if you want I could give a fuck, but making of fun of other people's subjective tastes in music is pretty lame. It's also one of the most critically acclaimed albums of all time, so I'm not really alone here.",
"Can't wait. Huge news and one of the big highlights of this crappy 2021.",
"Yes, I experienced TV in the mid 90s. All through them, and the decade before that.. too\n\nThe lighting is abysmal and looks horrible. The set pieces look.. like set pieces. It's a very low quality production.\n\nJust because you are excited about the material it was derived from don't let it hide the fact what they've presented is down right.. sad.",
"Everyone knows I’m a mutha-uckin monsta. Gag",
"Yea definitely the weakest verse on the song. Should have went with Rick Ross lol",
"*LELELELELELELELE, [LELELELELE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbVCE3tCK7M)*",
"Jesus Christ, did you just put Jay Z as 'Straight outta Compton'...",
"Are there more dragons? Cause if so I'm out...",
"In all honesty, saying \"it's a very low quality production\" based entirely off two short trailers is absurd. I can't know that it's going to be good, but just as clearly you can't know that it's going to be bad. And in any case saying it looks like Xena (or worse, considering Xena was one of the better looking fantasy shows of the 90s) is exaggeration to the point of... well, to the point of pointlessness.",
"Poor lighting, bad set design, obvious sets (half of the scenes look like they're shot on a play stage).\n\nLooks like a bad made for TV movie. Would have aired on NBC after Gulliver's Travels was done in 1996.",
"Sounds altogether [witcher](http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/i-3CnvcCW/0/O/i-3CnvcCW.jpg) than season 1.",
"Agreed, and the point of this thread was that it doesn't fit the trailer, not that it will appear in the show.",
"The quality of production is apparent in those trailers. The fact that the director can't light or frame a shot to save their life is a big red flag. It just screams CHEAP.",
"Interesting fact: in the Sven where Ciri’s mother. Forgot her name, is screaming and causing the magic wind to start blowing everywhere around the court. If you have subtitles on for a second it says. Winds howling.",
"I dunno man. I think it’s pretty easy to see that the music choice just doesn’t fit the show at all, doesn’t matter what music it is.",
"LELLELELELELELE LELLELE LELLE LELELE LELLELE",
"I didn't *hate* the first season, but I thought it was pretty weak. It really felt like they just couldn't find their stride with it. Like you mentioned, there was just too much going on and a lot of it isn't presented right. That being said, there were definitely parts of the first season (particularly the monster hunting episodes) that I quite enjoyed and gave hints that it's a promising show if they can smooth out some of the edges. There's a lot of shows that have similarly awkward first seasons that get a lot better as they figure things out. So as the second season comes around I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, to a certain extent.",
"Looks so dull, shame",
"Because the trailer isn't really for us, it's for people not really familiar with the property to get them interested. And also for casual viewers that don't read the books or play the games to get them in to a season 2. They know us dorks on reddit will watch either way.",
"I enjoyed it but then everything is subjective. I was just lightly mocking the people who IMO are coming across as neckbeards because they have a problem that it’s hip hop and not because they don’t think the music matches.",
"I'm hoping they've really smoothed out the flaws of the first season and season 2 only improves on what they did right initially. There were definitely flashes of a pretty good show in season 1, even if a lot of it missed its mark.",
"you mean hump. they hump. doggos hump.",
"I'm clearly not going to make you understand why and that is obviously not what you are looking for. But your attempts to make me seem childish for criticizing my objective tastes in music have really only accomplished the opposite.",
"basically the mandolorian formula that works so well. im here for it.",
"I don’t think anyone here has a problem what music it is, just that it doesn’t fit",
"I'm surprised they didn't just get straight into the Wild Hunt storyline considering how much it involves Ciri. Especially when they hinted at the emergence of the Hunt in the first season a couple times. I guess they wanted to keep the same villains for the sake of casting continuity?",
"It can fit though: [see here](https://youtu.be/BQzWHWCyxVE). But that is at least not official. ;)",
"So, so many things.",
"Its \"Ye\" Thank you. Seriously, he needs mental assistance.",
"I wonder if you know\n\nHow they live in Tokyo (はい!)\n\nIf you seen it, then you mean it\n\nThen you know you have to go\n\nFast and furious (drift, drift, drift)\n\nFast and furious (drift, drift, drift)",
"It's like a grassy brownie that got taken out of the oven 15 minutes too early",
"Sad but true.",
"Yeah I meant to say subjective, like I said in my earlier comment, you caught me bro. You're now just getting specific about pedantics to deflect from your actual argument, kind of weak.\n\nI like it because it sounds good in my opinion, same reason anyone likes any music. Does that really need to be explained, do you really not understand what music is? This is sad.",
"Yeah. Sorry.\n\nI'm almost completely uneducated in this area of music and just sort of threw it out there as a general rap term in the same way that I might call a random American country music song some \"Garth Brooks type stuff\".\n\nApologies.",
"Season 1 was *really* bad about 'telling, not showing'. Way too many instances of people sitting around talking about things that happened instead of showing them happening. By far the worst offender was the porcupine face episode.",
"This is what I was looking for. Thank you.",
"No, They're saying they don't feel the need to explain their tastes to a random who just insulted those tastes, which you clearly understand but feel like belitting someone anyway. I lost some braincells reading your comments.",
"My biggest worry for this season is they will try to outdo \"Toss a coin to your Witcher\" and it will suck.",
"that and the censoring lmao",
"'WTF is american rap doing in a witcher trailer LUL'\n\n'Stoked for season 2 but why is there a rap song in an ad for the Witcher?'\n\n'Nice trailer ugh unfitting music to appeal to the masses'\n\n'Fucking Kanye and Jay-Z for a trailer set in a universe as rich as this.'\n\n&#x200B;\n\nPlenty people have a problem that, in their opinion, the music type doesn't match the genre. Like all fantasy content has to have Howard Shore running the audio.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nOh and this guy:\n\n'I thought this was a trailer for Black Knight 2 bc of the shitty music'\n\n&#x200B;\n\nOof...",
"I feel so bad for that customer, because I saw where they were trying to go but they didn't get there. Like that wrinkly armor very unique, downside it looks like ball sack.",
"So you understand music then? That's a good starting point. Also, I never even brought up the lyrics, you did. \n\nAnd FYI, the lyrics are supposed to be extreme and not to be taken fully seriously. In fact, this entire album was meant as a \"maximalist\" rap album, in response to his prior album which was \"minimalist\", and kind of meant as a satire of the genre itself. One song on the album is actually about how all the rap stereotypes and fake glitz and glamor are \"fucking ridiculous\". So congrats again, you're making fun of something that is already basically making fun of itself.\n\nBut I'm sure you won't be able to process most of that, since you're just here to hate.",
"It just seemed very amateur. Especially the rope dress.\n\nGood art requires self editing and some of those costumes looked like arts & crafts. If you told me popsicle sticks had been used I'd believe you.",
"> Witcher being gritty but also not taking itself too seriously.\n\nAgreed, especially since so many of the scenes featured in the trailer are the >!riff on Beauty & Beast story.!< The Witcher series knows how to have fun with itself.",
"Geralt pulls up to the keep and the bgm intensifies:\n\n*Fuckin love whiskey and beer and freedom*",
"Damn im really excited to be dissapointed again by netflix series",
"90% of people commenting have only played The Witcher 3 and don’t know dick about the books.\n\nCan’t wait for the beauty and the beast episode!",
"Actually I tell all my friends they have to make it to episode 3. After that it's gets AMAZING. The first 2 episodes are super slow.\n\nSee if you can make it to the end of episode 3! Everything from end of 3 onwards is great!",
"Goddammit, can series stop trying to incorporate garbage hip hop verses/remixes into their shows and trailers? I don’t need to hear KANYE anywhere near The Witcher.\n\nThis would be a better series if they chose appropriate music. Just get the composer behind Witcher 3, you dolts.",
"> So congrats again, you're making fun of something that is already basically making fun of itself.\n> \n\nI did not know that. Thanks for letting me understand that this is just an elaborate joke.",
"I’m not sure how you’re missing it but that’s just people saying the music choice doesn’t fit except for the last asshat\n\nWhat would you say if they had medieval fantasy music in the trailer for Straight Outta Compton?",
"*\"Place of power. Sure as shootin'.\"*",
"When you look down after a shower and think \"Nilfgaard armor\"",
"They should have had Dan Vasc do something. His cover was brilliant",
"Pretty sure that's an elf.",
"Not an elaborate joke, but certainly deliberately extreme and excessive.",
"\\*Nods\\*",
"Perfection.",
"Watch it muted. The music is absolute horseshit. Who approved this trash tier sound?",
"Watched the first season and had absolutely no clue what was happening. I'll watch this one and be just as entertained/nonplussed",
"*Hmm wind's hootin and a hollerin*",
"Everybody knows I'm a motherfuckin' monster?",
"Kind of like Xena and Hercules, but without the acknowledgment of the obvious camp.",
"The music absolutely did not suck. Please tell me that is not the majority opinion! I got chills from it. Inject me with that ye.\n\nEdit: lol",
"I mean depending on how it's done that would be amazing haha. Look we're clearly not going to come to a compromise here and my issue is not you in the slightest so let's just agree to disagree my friend. Although now I can't get out of my head a slow motion group walk scene of NWA to the sound of the Ride of the Rohirrim.",
"Whos black in this season?",
"Appreciate it. For shows like this I don't like watching trailers because they give so much away. Sure I could've easily googled it, but I came here first hoping, and here you were.",
"The wrinkly ballsacks are actually Dilfgaard",
"Yeah, it might be the most tone-deaf, worst soundtrack selection I have ever heard. Truly horrific.\n\nIt looks pretty good though.",
"What you are describing sounds like the uncanny valley effect where everything should look real, but we pick up on little things that are off.\n\nA lot of TV shows across all genres have a rough season 1 though. I imagine a lot of it is building chemistry between actors and directors, budget, writers hitting their groove, etc. and when you go back to re-watch the first season it hits you how much the show has changed over time.\n\nI personally loved season 1, and can't wait for season 2!",
"I know this is a controversial opinion, but the color blind casting speaks to a massive change in itself. Countless passages detailing how certain individuals \"don't have the look of Two Rivers folk\", namely people with blonde hair or dark skin. But the main characters HAD to be colorblind despite coming from the same place, because this is mainstream media baby.",
"Kanye? The Kardashan's Kanye? I see... he plays music",
"I'm on my 90thousandth repeat of \"toss a coint to your witcher\".\n\nJust as fresh every time",
"Rapping has no business is the world of The Witcher. It’s a comically bad choice.",
"Fucking outstanding. Thank you for this",
"No, the music was terrible.",
"Say whaaaa? I'll watch again, but timestamp?",
"Yeah fair enough, it’s a weird place to be. \n\nThe first season of the Netflix show isn’t at the point where she has become anything yet and Witcher 3 is set multiple years after the events in the books.\n\nSince Ciri (or Yennefer for that matter) isn’t really in the Witcher 1/2 games people who haven’t read the books know practically nothing of Ciri.",
"Fair enough my man, no hard feelings \n\n>\tAlthough now I can't get out of my head a slow motion group walk scene of NWA to the sound of the Ride of the Rohirrim.\n\nThis would be kinda awesome ngl",
"Wow, what a stupid song to pick....",
"What is this piece of shit rap soundtrack in the background?",
"Because the first thing I think of when I hear The Witcher is Kanye and Jay Z haha",
"Yeah, the trailer music sucked.",
"dude my dogs loved horse shit! one of them would just devour it.... and the other one liked to roll in it(i always thought that he believed he might be mistaken for a bigger animal if he smelled the part)",
"One of my biggest issues with the show is its westernization. One of the nice things about the books are that they read like they're very Slavic but there is literally no indicator of that in how the show is presented. People were so busy being upset about some BAME castings when the biggest crime of all was how it doesn't retain any of the Slavic folklore themes of the books.",
"Didn't know Geralt was into fish sticks, too.",
"I love that song and the album as a whole, but I really didn't like it in this application.",
"holy fuck i forgot about wheel of time being a thing! does it look good so far?",
"Dune and Pink Floyd work well together because they're both likely fueled by massive amount of drugs.",
"Every so often I like to mix in a metal version of it that I like. Just to add a different flavor.",
"The \"ye\" is what gave away the reason you liked the music.",
"But come on man it's titled Monster bro the show is about killing monsters bro it's perfect come on \n\n\n-- the marketing intern, probably",
"r u seriously not gonna give nicki the shout here",
"Poore witcher's fan",
"Note how I said that I enjoyed it. You thinking it is terrible doesn't change that.",
"ok",
"What’s with the rap music……………",
"Marry her again",
"As jarring as Old McDonald Had a Farm in Friday the 13th:\n\nhttps://youtu.be/jNNR1KOufqI?t=915",
"I'm really glad so many people like it because Henry Cavil is amazing, and I really think more shows like this should be getting the opportunity to get made. There's not enough risk taking these days..",
"The first season was some of the worst tv I've ever seen. God banish this piece of shit.",
"What in the barmy fuck was that song choice about? Do they not know what fucking show their making?",
"That was definitely my assumption. Too on the nose to be anything else.",
"Well, I was aiming for lolz, but I didn't know that. So I appreciate you sharing that.",
"they went full django unchained",
"Was looking for someone else who'd commented on the music.\n\nI don't understand the obsession people have for making trailers with music that don't match them.\n\nAt all.",
"What happened to the Eastern European Folk influenced music, for real. Witcher and rap don't jive well, and I'm a fan of both separately.",
"She gave the scrotum warriors dong hats. I do not feel bad.",
"The music being good or bad doesn't really matter as much as its just an odd choice for a witcher trailer. The lyrics and lion roars over footage of horses are just kind of out of place.\n\nUnrelated but I'd like to thank Kanye fans for keeping the servers running. Those awards lol.",
"Yeah it really didn't fit at all. It's usually done because it's much cheaper (and faster) to use existing music as a soundtrack rather than commission someone to compose something.",
"Absolute awful trailer…. Stop picking rap songs that don’t match the theme of the trailer…",
"I really did not need to know this while eating..",
"The song is about monsters so it kinda fits thematically. But Netflix confirmed 🌊🌊🌊",
"https://i.imgur.com/92KSb5x.jpeg",
"And for some reason trailers are going downhill fast. Trailers had always been formulaic but editors sometims tried to display or showcase something interesting to sell you on the show/movie. Now they're like those \"made by neural network content\". It's all samey and uninspired. Like, which robot suit thought it would be good to have a rapper going on in the background in an anachronistic way? Do elves rap in Temeria now?",
"Sapkowski used folklore and stories from all of Europe not only Slavic. But yeah the show got americanized hard.",
"If it was a rock song you'd be in here complaining that the music should've been in-universe? I doubt that.",
"> Can’t wait for the beauty and the beast episode!\n\nSame, that was my favorite of the short stories. Hopefully it's done well.\n\nThough for most scenes in the trailer, they weren't nearly as recognizable as the first season's. We're getting A Grain Of Truth, and then... what else? I didn't recognize anything else from Sword Of Destiny.\n\nInstead it looks like season 2 is going to diverge from the books even more than season 1 already did. Was that Baba Yaga at 1:42? A leshen at 2:04? If they're just throwing in new monster fights between new plot points, I worry about the execution.",
"Rap? More like CRAP am i right?",
"I liked it a lot actually, though I thought it worked better in the beginning and middle of the trailer than it did at the end, but I also just didn't like the last 1/3 of the trailer as much as a whole",
"How they gon' use Monster and not include Nicki's verse? Smh",
"Lol right, like what isn't wrong with Kanye?",
"I totally forgot what Season 1 was about at this point and will have to rewatch",
"Sci-fi, fantasy & period shows/films should only be appropriate music score. This shit just rips you right out of the experience, but I’m sure there’s also a bunch of peeps that don’t care.",
"It's not the music. The music is good. It's the context. I thought I had accidentally let Spotify running in another tab. It didn't fit and clashed with the visuals.",
"Legend of the Seeker was totally a 90s level fantasy show. \n\nIt was actually better than it's source material though.",
"Right, I was just asking because my family's labrador retriever also liked to eat horse shit :D",
"It's not the actual show, it's a trailer edited together by some guy in the marketing department. The contrast between the music and the show is just a trick to make you remember it more. When they use the beastie boys in the star wars trailer I didn't hear people complain.",
"This is why it pisses me off about people that whine about casting AND about studios who adapt material. Cast a good actor, regardless of race, for the role, but RETAIN the personality of those characters and the atmosphere of the world they inhabit. \n\nI thought Dune was an excellent example of doing it right. Not a 100% perfect movie (though I loved it), but the recasts in no way detracted from the atmosphere or setting, or the respect Villeneuve had for it.",
"Yeah I agree, I saw theories about how channeling, from the perspective of a non-channeler, would be colorless but colored appropriately if seen by a channeler. However, we have not yet seen any \"color\" except Logain's corruption (black), so I'm pretty sure they are going for a general boring translucent white, which is pretty sad. I loved imaginig the twists and weaves with the elements and colors, and I hope it willaybe change for the next seasons.",
"I'm not a witcher fan but if I were I'd be toxic as well after that mess of a first season.",
"Too bad it wasn't the budget that made the first season so mediocre. They had the budget for a cool CGI dragon, but that episode was terrible.",
"It isn't controversial at all, the show was panned by critics and it's primarily propped up because of its huge following in gaming circles. Most people never read the books so they aren't aware at how badly Lauren and the other show runners butchered it. I have sympathy for them with season 1 as the initial story is basically spearheaded by a few short stories from The Last Wish and Sword of Destiny but even then they just overall did a really shit job at making it coherent which is a far bigger issue than the changes they made. The biggest crime is just adding needless fluff to the show when the actual content of the books is far more interesting. They didn't touch the racial tensions of the books anywhere near enough which would be an interesting theme to explore with how today's social climate is and instead wasted hours on things like fleshing out Yenefer...for no particular reason other than to make her more relevant. Cahir, butchered, he isn't Nilfgardian ( I'd say this was a spoiler but it fucking isn't, it's made abundantly clear he isn't in the books) and he also isn't an evil prick or a General. Vilgefortz is an incredibly powerful Sorcerer who leads but is again relegated to an emotionally unstable idiot so Yenefer can \"lead\" The Battle of Sodden to make her character more relevant which will make latter parts of the book make no sense, same thing with Fringilla who appears to be relevant in Season 2 again despite not being so, they even went so far as to give her one of the most iconic quotes in the book which should have been uttered by Vilgefortz. Foltest isn't some slimy sister rapist, their love was consensual and painted as tragic, he was also supposed to be handsome, charismatic and loved by his people. Eyck died taking a shit and made to look like a wanker when he's supposed to be impossibly pious and flawless to the point even Geralt admires him for his ability at monster killing. Worst of all they made Geralt a mumbling, grumbling slab of meat when he's meant to be famously outspoken but then I'm lead to believe the showrunners read the books which is imo the biggest load of shit they've said otherwise none of this would have happened.\n\nEnd of the day this show deserved a Sapkowski scholar like Tolkien has, someone to tow the line for Slavic folklore but instead we get this westernised, Netflix shite. I'm gonna give season 2 a chance because it *should* be more coherent now with the book series properly starting now but I don't have high hopes.",
"That's hilarious because my biggest gripe with the show is that everyone is too attractive and the \"blood and guts\" makeup always looks tacked on.",
"Nah, you don't get it. Its protest music now. Elves rap against their oppressors. And dwarves play post punk metal. Punk died during the last purge war.",
"That verse may have been the best thing she ever did. I'm not sure if that's a compliment or an insult lol",
"The writing was really bad. Such a shame.",
"I mean it was no Xena warrior princess or hercules or highlander :P\n\nWellll maybe on the same level of hercules which was a shadow of xena despite being the progenitor",
"It's trailer though. They always put pop songs in trailers like these. It's not like this is in the actual soundtrack.",
"Well it made me laugh",
"Not only Pink Floyd but also Magma, mainly for the Harkonnen though almost nobody knows who they are compared to Pink Floyd.",
"Hopefully better than the books. I felt like they went terribly down hill after that point.",
">\tIt's not like this is in the actual soundtrack.\n\nWhich IMO makes it even weirder to put it in the trailer",
"\"Fuck\"",
"do you actually think this song works at all when half the words are censored and it's chopped up? I love the original, but just why",
"Ooh, was that the cursed dude from the first book? Consider me intrigued. A Leshen and Skellige too it looks like, alright.",
"Kanye's on the album, gotta use him.",
"Which goes to show how rubbish the show did at adapting Ciri who is, by far, the most interesting character in the books and imo the actual protag not the titular Geralt.",
"Hope it's not as boring as season 1.",
"They've already re-cast Matt for season 2. That's going to be jarring.",
"Non-channelers cannot see weaves at all. Honestly I think the idea of weaves provides some of the greatest opportunity for creative freedom by the producers of the show. I can visualize several different ways they could be presented. The only thing I hope they maintain is the level of complexity versus simplicity in different weaves, so the viewer can fully understand why \"strong\" channelers can do things others can't (e.g. gateways)",
"I completley agree. I dislked S1 enough to not be interested in the show further. I will probably watch some hightlight scenes on YouTube of the monsters and Jaskier-Geralt compilations, and thats it.",
"https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GlumInformalBufflehead-max-1mb.gif",
"What? It's common practice.",
"I thought Starship Troopers (the film) was pretty good, despite whiting the main character.",
"Never heard the song before but I thought it worked for the trailer. Cant see it working in the show though but I wouldnt be too upset",
"I don't think it's fair to compare a tv series to a movie trilogy, especially LOTR. The Witcher season 1's budget was around $70-80 million while the LOTR trilogy had a $281 million budget and it's only a few hours more content.",
"It releases December 17th. For those who hate American trailer spoilers",
"is the Witcher book worth reading? i have not watched the tv series yet as i was telling myself i'd read the book first. i think it's initial writing was in polish? Just wondering if i should try and crank out the book over the course of 2-3 months or if i should just watch the tv show as i know it's been highly rated.",
"That doesn’t magically make it good choice",
"It gets the people going",
"A compliment. That verse is literally one of the most memorable and acclaimed features of all time. It put her on the map as an artist (for whatever that's worth). A lot of other artists would kill for a verse that good.",
"So you're saying that there was a Convergence?",
"I agree. The trailer can mess with the “immersion” in a way the show probably wouldn’t get away with. This show is supposed to be a bit cheeky and using that remix of that song worked on that level and on a straight faced level. Which matches the show perfectly and is why I love it.",
"I seem to remember Reddit regularly praising the combination of rock music and fantasy setting with A Knight's Tale.\n\nImho the music was kind of jarring but only because they used the censored version of that song which is jarring because it omits like half the words which are an essential part of the beat and rhythm. \n\nI'm willing to bet that trailer was awesome when the editor originally cut it together with the explicit version.",
"This is something I really like about the games. Superficially they may *look* like standard Western fantasy RPGs, but their world and atmosphere is very different to western RPGs.",
"Yeah it's definitely an awesome feature. A lot of amazing features on that album.",
"They got the budget to pay for AAA music, yet seem to forget that a lot of the charm of the old show was their use of original scores.\n\nI hope it's sporadically used in the show, or even better, just for the trailer.",
"Yeah, the censored version of that song is brutal. The lyrics are part of the beat and rhythm in a rap song, you can't just omit half of them and expect it to flow properly.",
"TBF, David Lynch read Dune and hated it.",
"Yeah, the later books had a lot of \"Oh wow, cool! ...but why? *How??\"* moments. Things just sort of happened. Like >!Geralt deciding to get off his ass in Toussaint after accidentally stumbling into a magic eavesdropping room that focused on the exact people he needed to hear at the exact right time while doing something completely unrelated.!<",
"Everyone praises A Knight's Tale for combining rock music and medieval fantasy settings, combining modern music with old timey settings isn't new.",
"Forgive me, but I was very confused about the casting choice for Triss. I am all for inclusivity, but this feels a bit forced. They give her a red wig and contacts but she doesn't look remotely like the books or video games.",
"If bond can have an entire movie about poker I don't see why an episode can't be gwent focused. There's a couple tournaments in the game with other stories/missions happening simultaneously",
"Do you complain about every trailer that does this? Like when star wars or Dune had a pop song in their trailer?",
"The first season is based on short stories that set the scene for the readers to get to know Geralt and the world around him. That's why they feel disconnected from each other. They also focus more on the world building and politics than they do on actual monster hunting. \n\nAs for stories that lead nowhere, I agree with the Brokilon forest part. I'm currently rereading the books so I don't quite recall the story but I remember complaining that it didn't match the show at all. As for the hedgehog prince, his story isn't quite over yet. I wonder if they will pick up on it in season 2.",
"I dunno. Watch some movie trailers from the 70's and 80's. They typically spoil the entire movie, randomly cut around, have bizarre effects overlaying them, and feature genuinely awful music that isn't even in the movie. Some trailers today are pretty bad but on average I'd say they're trending upwards in quality. At least we're done with the weird voice over guy with the super deep voice saying \"In a world where humans and elves have learnt to get along... This human and this elf still have some learning to do!\" (or whatever, idfk, like half of the trailers in the 90's did it).",
"The first season was so bad. The monster effects were so corny, and the character motivations make no sense.\n\nGeralt, the man without feelings, is dying to save some woman that he was \"promised\"... just because? And he hopelessly falls in deep love with any girl he has a romantic encounter with after one day?\n\nAnd that woman who wanted to have a kid... that's a thing for many women, but it doesn't make them want to fight a world-war to go back on their own decision. Since when is that a thing? Why does she want a child THAT badly? Makes no sense and is never even explained.\n\nThe audience is largely teenagers, I read. That could be why it's popular, idk.",
"I don’t care what they put in as long as the music fits. For this Witcher S2 trailer it doesn’t.",
"As I said in another comment:\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>The first season was so bad. The monster effects were so corny, and the character motivations make no sense. \n> \n>Geralt, the man without feelings, is dying to save some woman that he was \"promised\"... just because? And he hopelessly falls in deep love with any girl he has a romantic encounter with after one day? Aren't emotionless people supposed to be the exact opposite of this strong trend he has? \n> \n>And that woman who wanted to have a kid... that's a thing for many women, but it doesn't make them want to fight a world-war to go back on their own decision. Since when is that a thing? Why does she want a child THAT badly? Makes no sense and is never even explained. \n> \n>The audience is largely teenagers, I read. That could be why it's popular, idk.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nI only bring this up to see if others agree or if someone can help me with what I'm missing?",
"They just wanted a song with monster in it that would go to the rhythm of that fight scene.",
"Oh I know that, he still managed to take something like Beauty and the Beast and turn it into Nivellen and a testament to what greedy fathers would do for money and women for status. You know...interesting and nuanced and not contradictory agenda based soliloquy's such as Yenefer lamenting her fertility being taken away by evil men when clearly told she can't have children if she wanted to become beautiful and it was indeed her choice to choose.",
"It looks bad to me. I read all the books twice in my lifetime and that casting doesn't feel right. But I have hope and it's to early tell.",
"The book and the movie are borderline unrelated excepting broad strokes. I read the book a while ago and it unapologetically tries to promote some kind of \"soft\" fascism. In my mind the movie is the superior work although I'll admit that the book is decently crafted and has some interesting ideas, particularly for its time.",
"\"What now you piece of filth?\"",
"they should have typed \"lelelelelele\"",
"The casting was fine. The only odd one was Fringilla seeing as she was meant to be horribly pallid and green eyed. Other than being first cousin to Anna Henrietta though I don't see why it would be an issue. I don't see anyone questioning Henry Cavill's casting despite him being far too jacked and handsome to play someone described as being average looking and sinewy.",
"Not sure if I’m hyped because it looks great from the trailer or just the music\n\n(Altho fight scenes look great)",
"Times change",
"They're ugly and stink?",
"BANANA TIGER [BANANA TIGER](https://youtu.be/06SCaZtUofg)",
"I'm sorry your town is on fire. Wanna play a round?",
"Been waiting so long for this to come out!!",
"Good song! Jarring!!",
"have you ever had sex with a pharoahhh I put the pussy in the sarcophagus",
"What, you didn't know that horses roar?",
"I know right. They could get a Polish musician like Nergal from Behemoth to do something. But they wouldn't have the balls to do that.",
"This dog humps",
"Damn, last season of The Expanse on the 10th and this on the 17th, December is gonna be stacked.",
"You played Witcher 3 and your eyes substain watching this show ?",
"Oooooh didn't know that! Looking forward to it",
"I REALLY hope it's a trailer thing only.",
"I'm one of those people questioning Henry Cavill as Geralt, not only because he is too jacked, but mostly because apparently it's because of him that most of Geralts lines are \"hmm\" and \"fuck\"",
"Surely you mean Milfgaard",
"I want two things: 1) Get the guy who choreographed the sword fight in the first episode to do all of them. 2) Get your god damn CGI in order",
"Definitely not the only one. Also, here's a [music link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP4Wms1meFY).",
"Ngl I feel the same for fringilla. The whole reason geralt sticks around with her for so long is because she looks similar to yen, who he can’t get out of his head. I’m wondering if the show will even pursue their romance though.",
"Or 'Fuck' for what it's worth",
"Really was not a fan of the first season, I thought it did most things wrong whether it be casting, writing, or simply looking like a CW show. The show turned the material into a generic Americanized show rather than it feeling very Slavic (even if many of the folklore featured was not Slavic). The games sure take massive liberty with the material too but if there's one thing it nailed consistently was the atmosphere, especially in the Witcher 1.\n\nThat being said, beyond the bad trailer music, it looks like a massive step up especially the color and cg however I am still not confident at all in the writing and how everything is interpreted from a American lense.",
"I picked up the books after the first season and really enjoyed them. Can’t wait for season two!",
"I like book and game ciri, I couldn't stand show ciri. She was a dopey asshole that constantly gets her companion in life threatening danger. Even after saving her, she never thanks him. She was a bitch.",
"The CGI dragon was terrible. And what they need is to fire whoever did choreo past episode one and have that guy do everything",
"Yes, we know trailers are marketing tools. No one is arguing against that. What's being pointed out is that the marketing team behind this seems to have picked a random trendy song of the month and slapped it on to the trailer without any reverence for [the type of music](https://youtu.be/rI2vjPUztJc) fans associate with the brand or the [type of music](https://youtu.be/eEugSA2LzlU) that it inspired.",
"Yeah, I love this shit, but I don't feel the epicness with the Kanye mix in the background. Some GoT type of atmosphere would've probably put this trailer on a hype train.",
"It makes the trailer look like something made by the scifi channel.",
"Never watched the 1st season but have it on my list. Is it comparable in quality to the first few seasons of GoT?",
"it's a subtle teaser that Jaskier invents in universe hip hop this season..",
"I don't particularly care about the plot or the games, but I do love seeing how much fun Henry Cavill is clearly having as Geralt.",
"I think we should just be prepared for Fringilla and Cahir to just be completely different characters. Possibly every Nilfgaardian character will be changed, as they've gone much more \"evil empire\" than the books.",
"I got goosebumps like a mf",
"An American that hasn't read the books and thought it sounded EPIC.",
"Why would you want to watch a trailer for something you already plan on watching",
"Reddit will never understand this.",
"i feel you man, it would've been better if they just blasted that shit over some good footage instead of interrupting it for incessant dialogue like \"are you ready??\" but marketing people gonna try to pander to commercial nonsense every time",
"Amazing",
"> they said it will be more linear \n\nOh thank god. \nI didn't hate the time jumps in S1 but it got old towards the end and it really killed re-watchability for me at least. I was hoping they wouldn't make it 'their gimmick' and stick with it. \nOther than that my only complaint are the contacts, they look weird and shitty. I'd rather they use natural eye colors if CGI is too expensive. \nAnyway, I'm hyped for S2.",
"Netflix using kanye west as the score for the trailer is just a logical next step in Netflix completely misunderstanding the Witcher.\n\nI fucking love the Witcher, so I watch and somewhat enjoy the show, but this show misses the mark on so many levels.\n\nHenry Cavill is pretty much the glue holding the show together, but it would be a downright terrible show without him.",
"Miscast: the show. Geralt is not a bearmode tank with a chisel jaw, the character is a lithe cat that is 'uglyhot'. And don't even get me started on triss and yennifer.\n\nInb4 I get called an incel",
"Witcher season 14 will be able to accurately have Run DMC in its trailer",
"If he doesn't say \"fuck\" anymore I'll riot",
"Because advertising exists to trick dumb people into liking things, so people who like pop music are prime targets.",
"The guys who used to do that died",
"There is no way it's anything but trailer music.",
"Now if they would just replace the show runner, we might really have some potential here.",
"Link?",
"That sucks, although I don't think that Hollywood stopped doing the obnoxious voice over thing out of respect. I don't think Hollywood does almost anything out of respect, unfortunately.",
"Witcher confirmed wavy.",
"Dammit!",
"I thought this trailer and song sounded fine together (as a trailer; I wouldn't want it in the show proper) and to me it feels like everyone is big time overreacting about it but maybe that's just me=/\n\nI feel like almost every time a pop song is used in a trailer for something not set in modern times or universe, reddit comments freak out automatically. Some did for Pink Floyd in Dune too...but I'm just kinda used to it as a trailer style I guess?",
"I'll wait a few months after release for them to fix all the bugs first",
"Yeeessssssssss!",
"How do you like that silver?",
"I’m holding out hope for Cahir. He’s such a complicated character, I hope they don’t write him off as just a villain.",
"Going to have to disagree that this is forced diversity\n\nSomeone can remind you of others based on things other than just looks such as personality\n\nIf someone's ethnicity isn't a a key trait to their character in books then I have no issues with film adaptations casting them differently",
"YAAAAAAS",
"Knights tale did a significantly better job of making it work, this was just jarring.\n\nNow time to go rewatch a knight's tale",
"Same. I just finished the book series. Really looking forward to it. \n\nExtremely odd music choice - even as someone who has listened to that song probably a couple of hundred times.",
"Go the *Yu-Gi-Oh!* route and host an entire tournament.",
"\"most interesting\" isn't what I'd call it, but understand the sentiment.",
"I know normal people shouldn't be able to see them, but I think maybe they will in the series? Not sure.",
"I noticed the music but I'm not mad. Guess everyone has to gripe about things nowadays. It didn't really take from it IMO.",
"Is the show good or does Henry Cavill carry it,",
"> End of the day this show deserved a Sapkowski scholar like Tolkien has, someone to tow the line for Slavic folklore but instead we get this westernised, Netflix shite\n\naye, instead we have Hissrich and her writing team making a complete fanfiction story that has butcher every short story they've covered :/ Hissrich has shown she is not interested in making a proper or good adaptation of the Witcher books, she wants to make her own fanfiction version of the story.\n\nthey've gone ahead and ruined almost everything from the source material while at the same time adding their own terrible story points like Yennefer's backstory, Ciri saying \"who is yennfer\", Fringilla, Cahir and so on\n\nso many characters were ruined and changed, to where they are basically only the character's in name from the books... everything else is different about them :/\n_____________________________________________________\n\nand the leaks for s2 have confirmed this ain't improving, it's going to be more stupid changes and ruining of BoE, characters, relationships and whatever else you can think of\n\nsure s2 looks like it has a better budget and production, so people will eat up the CGI, fights, monsters, visuals, costumes and such to give s2 10/10 on day 1. And I do expect the writing will be a bit better than s1, cause the story will be more linear and not based on short stories linking up... but being better than complete shit is not saying much\n\nand we can already see the godawful writing on display in these trailers with the terrible dialogue, shitty attempts at comedy and shit like \"fear is an illness\" \n\n_______________________________________________________________________\n\nand you know what's funny, even Hissrich herself has admitted to some of the faults of the dogshit writing of s1 (not all, but at least some she admitted to). In particular, she talked about them not doing Ciri/Geralt relationship well (i.e. they completely rushed and ruined that entire relationship and dynamic), so they admit they'll have to rush and make up for that in the start of s2",
"God damn they definitely turned up the graphics in this season with RTX on. Looks incredible.",
"I have not seen the show but this trailer makes it look awful, music is horrible too. It actually looks like Game of Thrones if you ordered it on WISH.",
"Pooparatzi?",
"I’m really hyped for the new season, but the music they chose for this trailer just didn’t match at all.",
"Is this based on a true story ?",
"NO NEW BLOODY FACTIONS!",
"Nah wasnt mad, more of a ugh feeling. Glad you liked it though! Just didn't work for me. 👍",
"Hot take: Song of the Sword-Dancer bangs harder than Silver for Monsters",
"exactly, netflix witcher can have all the budget it wants with great visuals, CGI, costumes, monsters, witcher 3 callbacks, Cavil and so on. \n\nAnd sadly, many people are fine with eating up flashy visuals and fights to rate the show 10/10, but the fact is that the writing is letting it all down cause it's straight up awful. Season 1 was terribly written and completely butchered all the short stories they were adapting. \n\nand s2 looks to be no different, seeing as these trailers are already showing us more of s1's godawful dialogue, terrible attempts at humour and some of the leaked stuff about s2 is... well it's going to be bad if they turn out to be true",
"I couldn't finish season 1 due to cringing so hard at the shit acting, terrible plot and abysmal CGI. I really wanted it to be good but it felt like just another cold and soulless video game movie/series used to squeeze a little more money from the cash cow. The only actually good thing in the series was Henry Caville, but even he couldn't save the series from the shit writing. I feel like I had more fun with the last season of Game of Thrones.\n\n\"Toss a coin for your Witcher\" made me want to remove my auditory cortex with a hammer.",
"They're a mix, I find. They have the action and plotting of a western RPG, but the storytelling from a fixed point of an Eastern RPG. They're wide open, but you're not playing a blank slate. I'd like to see more like it.",
"They really know how to tease the hell out of the best character.",
"FYI on certain medications, horse poop can be very dangerous for dogs.",
"exactly, season 1 was awful in large part due to the terrible writing and complete butchering of the witcher books it attempted to adapt \n\nLauren Hissrich and her writing team are straight up not good writers, they filled s1 with godawful dialouge, terrible attempts at humour, stupid changes to the source material, hollywood-esque writing (the whole destiny stuff with ciri was so on-the-nose) and so on. Then they added on their garbage plot points like Yen's backstory, Fringilla and such\n\nand based on the leaks, interviews, casting choices, changes and such for s2: expect more of the same as s1 when it comes to the writing -> awful \n\nsure s2 looks to be better in terms of budget and production, and I'm sure many people will eat up the CGI, visuals, monsters, costumes, Cavil, fights and stuff to give the show 10/10... but the fact remains that even these trailers are showcasing the awful writing s2 is going to have",
"Dave Chappelle and The Journey to Obscurity",
"I thought Jeskier want in this season, so seeing him made me really happy.",
"I think I might have more time spent playing, or travelling to play, Gwent than I have playing the rest of the game.",
"I don't know. At least they didn't mix songs with lyrics and movie dialogue in the same shot while wiggling the volume slider. That's borderline negligence.",
"\"A Mmmmmmmm\" *stab* \"Fmmmmmmm\" *stab* \"Monster!\" *stab stab*\n\nNetflix: We're thinking of the children.",
"Trickle down economics at work!",
"You're a dick. With balls.",
"I think it was just oops, the usual guys aren't available anymore, got nobody with the deep voice. So a new trend started. Everybody started copying the Inception trailer: cut, bwaaa, cut, bwaaa and soon enough every trailer [was the same](https://youtu.be/KAOdjqyG37A)",
"Wait, isn't that mage in this trailer with the scar Vilgefortz? Did they change actors or something?",
"https://youtu.be/aVSXxyfnSxs",
"All I'm looking for is, have they changed the Nilfgaardian armor?",
"Sometimes the voice over guy would tell the premise, the inciting incident, the shocking event in the third act, and the end.\n\nVideo tapes of low budget movies would often start with several four minute long trailers.\n\n*In a world where water is scarce and life is cheap, a man was stabbed and left for dead.*\n\n*In his quest for revenge, he came across a community who asked for his help. He refused. Until he was pushed too far.*\n\n*After years alone on the road. He thought about settling down. But the the woman he loved was killed.*\n\n*A community in need. A desperate battle. These raiders wished they had not underestimated... Survivor.*\n\nOn screen: the name of the movie (Survivor) and a shot of the protagonist walking away from the final battle he has just survived. Available on VHS and Betamax.",
"Keep in mind Triss in the games (well, 2 and 3) looked nothing like Triss in the books.\n\n[Here's a thread about the subject.](https://www.reddit.com/r/witcher/comments/9x9wds/how_was_triss_described_in_the_books_exactly/e9qtqi0/) In particular the games took the red tint of her brown hair as described in the books and made her a flaming redhead. \n\nTriss in the first season was probably closer to the books on net, though she doesn't have the right eyes (Triss' should be blue IIRC).\n\nWith that all said, I watched the trailer twice and I didn't see Triss. I see a redhaired sorceress in the middle at 1min 30sec, but that might be a different character. Maybe they recast her or gave her red hair/blue contacts, but it's also plausible she wasn't prominent enough in this season to get in the trailer (Triss was never that prominent in the books).",
"November 19 premier!",
"I really liked going to Skellige, it was kinda like being home in a weird way. \n\nThey really nailed that feeling of the norwegian coast.",
"They're all sitting in Congress?",
"Kanye was interesting choice.",
"How does it feel to be a FUCKING LEGEND",
"> I'm not REALLY mad, but it's kind of weird to have Kanye West mixed with The Witcher,\n\nlol they did the exact same thing with the last season. I was wondering why this was only at 92% upvoted, that explains it.",
"I can't stand it \nI know you planned it \nI'ma set straight this Watergate",
"He basically looks like Geralt in the games which is clearly the visual they were generally going for. So complain about those",
"Even predates Grandmaster Flash.",
"What dress are you referring to? I don't remember.",
"Show serie otima",
"Monster of the week was when Season 1 was at its best tbh. I'm definitely in to watch that shit.",
"Banana tiger",
"Needs more tumbling",
"I missed half the trailer wondering the same thing",
"Well the video is terrible but I can dig the music",
"[terrible bad no good dress](https://64.media.tumblr.com/bfc56b80dd946d50cb7bb63b8de0f72d/6e868ba81bb796d9-23/s400x600/ccbbf083190f70a73fbd12b2d3dce7e3515302ee.png)",
"Yeah for one the Nilfgaardians no longer wear ballsack armour.",
"I think the music choice wasn't bad, but the editing of the song was absolute ass. Also clearly rated-r trailer but they edit all the curse words? It would have been great to have the \"I'm a motherfucking monsta!\" come up at a good time. I maintain song is good, editing is ASS.",
"Guess I know what I'll be doing December 16.",
">Witcher anime on Netflix\n\nWaaaaait hold it right there. What?",
"Anyone else feel bad for the monsters?\n\nLike 90% of em are just tryna do their thing. I'd similar thoughts during the games. \"Damn, I hope these Gryphons aren't endangered\" and you best believe they're endangered.",
"I thought the time jumps were *very* well executed. There's plenty to hate in that season, lots of cringey CGI and bad decisions. But the non-linearity of the story was superb.",
"Their music selection is bad IMO. Spent way too much money there on songs I personally like but hate in this context.",
"1:55?",
"\\[Reverently holds the poop of the poop up\\] *This is the one.*",
"Had this exact thought",
"Why is Jay Z in this trailer lmao",
"Marketing. Try to appeal to all demographics.",
"Reminded me of one of the trailers for the assassin's Creed movie. Pretty sure they used Kanye West there too. It was just out of place. This trailer still showed dope content and got me excited but I totally agree the music choice could have been more fitting",
"Episode 1 was 10/10. The rest was all over the place. Some fantastic moments, some Xena level ones. And the Ciri in the forest bit was approaching GoT season 8 levels of badness. I hope they get their shit together in season 2.",
"Put this on a poster!",
"Shit music choice",
"It was one guy. The studios didn't have anyone to replace him, so they just quit doing voice overs.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_LaFontaine",
"Sabrina Glevissig had some good costumes...",
"LOVE to see Geralt spamming Quen",
"If there's a marketing team that thinks putting hip hop music over a fantasy genre TV trailer will make it mainstream, that's hilarious",
"Well looks like Witcher got a lot of eyes cause boy howdy they spent some coin this season.",
"Yeah the head nilfgaard army fella who looks really unwell has shiny armour now",
"I actually would love to see something like that armor for a different property or characters. But in the context of the Witcher it just felt super weird and jarring.",
"\"...Man, myth, legend...\"\n\n\"SCOTT STERLING!!!\"",
"they better have them dank-ass Gwent songs",
"The song choice is straight garbage. I kept waiting for it to work and it didnt. lol.",
"That's a good feeling. Enjoy it!",
"Yes i myself often fight monsters and use magic shields.",
"I think that ship sailed.\n\nI'm honestly doubting whether Regis, Zoltan, and gang will even be in the show. It's going to be really hard to square the later events of the novels with what Season 1 showed, and I'm betting they just make a tweaked storyline for the show.",
"Is just me or was Tom hiddleston there for a few frames because that was be fucking awesome to seem him as a antagonist",
"Yeah, it was a surprise for me. I started the game and got a few hours in to it. After that she saw me playing it and got interested. So I started it over so she could see the start. Was really funny...I would ask if it was OK to sleep with various women and she and I made decisions together for the game. Was a bunch of fun.\n\nSounds like we are lucky and have awesome wives.",
">clearly the visual they were generally going for.\n\nYou mean like how his medallion is circular like in the books and that he also doesn't wear his silver sword on his back and keeps it on his horse...like in the books?\n\nThey actually stated many times this wasn't \" Video game Geralt\"",
"It's not that bad, and fun to see some of the aspects of the game in real life.",
"To be fair I think Peter Jackson in his prime could make a much better $80 million season - although important, the budget doesn't mean much without the right creators involved. Lots of crappy well-funded movies/shows out there.",
"Why would you assume that? \n\nMost rock songs would also be terribly out of place lyrically. \n\nI'd say look to Game of Thrones or Lord of the Rings for examples of fitting music.",
"My same reaction.",
"I liked their armor.\n\nedit: I've got 3 different commenters on this post, so rather than replying to each of them individually, im going to comment here so they all see the same comment.\n\nI'm already getting down voted here, so what-the-hell, lets go HAM and see if I can change peoples minds or at least get some karma for standing by my guns:\n\nYeah, I loved it for a couple reasons:\n\n1. It was different - shining silver or deep black armor like Warhammer, Lord of the Rings and Disney and stuff is tiiired, and boooring. Previously people would go with either the that plate shit because it's what people expect OR they go scrappy alternative with armor cobbled together with scraps and skulls and straps and steam punk stuff. Thats just trite. Gimme something new.\n\n\n2. It was probably more realistic - now this isn't r/armsandarmor or whatever, and im no expert, but the armor seemed SUPER practical. Our classic idea of \"full-plate\" armor is largely a myth or exhibited in rare cases by uber wealthy individuals as conspicuous consumption or intimidation. Most of the time the armor had significant cloth or leather or fabric components like using a gambeson to mount the plates to and cushion from chafing. The cloth texture to the Nilf's armor looked waxed to me, which made me think it was designed to prevent the plates from\n - wearing by rubbing against each-other\n - making noise\n - weathering in all the wet/corrosive environments and stuff\n - not reflect sunlight as much\n - catch blades from sliding around and finding chinks/vulnerabilities\n\n\n3. It was intimidating - hard to get realistic black metal that can stand up against wear and stuff. The cloth look to it gave them a uniform black look in what would have been a cost-friendly way. Armor torn to shit? great; here's some new plates appropriate to the body part that needs repairs, here's some over-cloth. take it to a smith who can quicky wrap it, remount it, wax it, slap you on the butt and you're good to go while not requiring all kinds of weird gothic metalworking.\n\n\n4. It was scrappy - the Nilfs in the show were stated to be a poor backwater country. It stands to reason that their armor would be unconventional and affordable as they mobilized and industrialized. The cloth aspect really lends to that point in my opinion.\n\nbut like, these are just my own opinions, my dudes.\n\nI cant fix the numbered outline because whoever coded this editor deserves to be spanked mercilessly. I hate when technology and some dev thinks it knows better than me.",
"Classic misuse of music, someone remembered the word monster existed in that song and said \"Yep, this fits perfectly within a fantasy setting set in Slavic folklore\", \"What do you mean this is not what you envisioned Dave ? You said EPIC fantasy music, Kanye's music is fantastic and epic all around\"",
"Oddly enough my wife more excited about this then I was and she hates fantasy.... I wonder what it could be.",
"Yeah, it had better production values, but worse actual story telling/casting/everything else.",
"looks like I might actually be able to see what's going on this time round",
"Fringilla's casting is fine for me, but her personality makes no sense.\n\nIn the books she was a minor sorceress in Nilfgard, never a zealot, and was lucky to be invited to join the lodge (Asire brought her).\n\nIn the show she just drops heavy generic evil witch vibes.\n\nCahir as well, a lot different in the books.",
"That music was so bad",
"Not what I was expecting, but dig it.",
"I could get over the bad time jumps, those were just not that well thought out, good idea, bad execution.\n\nWhat made it less than good for me was (as with many shows nowadays) too much attempting at making light moments and comedy for no reason, Jaskier was the worst fit possible and his character was extremely badly written. Would of been fine if he wasn't a main character and only a side thing.\n\nWhoever thought of making such a big fuss over the \"Toss a coin\" song really didn't understand what the story and universe are about.\n\nThey really focused on the most bland and boring aspects possible when they weren't directly focusing on the story. And I don't see why do that when the actual story from the books is rich enough to hold its own without changing focus or how characters behave or making shitty memes like the coin song and bad modern jokes.\n\nI do hope that they get a better feel for season 2 now that the introduction season is out of the way because season 1 just felt like a forced recap for people that already know the story and a bad way to introduce the universe to new audiences.\n\nBut the show did alright and made it to season 2 so what do I know.",
"They should of just played the coin song. So dumb.",
"Like Duncan killing 10 sardaukars with fast hits against shields. He only pays attention to visual details. Story wise he did pretty bad.",
"Did we just get a glimpse of the 'Knights Who Say Ni'?",
"it is",
"Looks like Geralt is gonna spam quen almost as much as I did.",
"Fringilla makes no sense in general. Neither did Calanthe, Tissaia or even Yen. Completely changed some characters personality for the worse and in other cases just needlessly shoehorned them in the story. Why the fuck am I watching people become electric eels? Who on earth thought anyone would give a flying fuck about a completely made up backstory for Yen derived from one sentence based off of an *assumption* of Geralt in that she may have been hunchbacked? Where the fuck is my grounded fantasy, racial pogroms and Sapkowski's brilliant satire of Grim folklore?\n\nThis is why you don't give people like Lauren Hissrich carte blanche. You can see her fingerprints all over it.",
"I mean you can't compare shows that have their own writing team making stuff as they go and a show that already has its story from books and even games (if you care to add the games to this).\n\nAn original show that makes their script on the go and has no source material can always get better because it's not anchored to a source material or any other source type. You can make stuff up on the go and if it's good it sticks, there are no expectations from anyone, they watch the show to literally see how it unfolds.\n\nA show based on a pre existing story can't really get better if they show no interest from the get go to at least try and stick with the source material. There is nothing to unfold, the story already exists, your job as a director and writing team should be to find a way to adapt a book to a script. Why go out of your way to change so many things when you already have a good story and the only reason why the show exists in the first place and why it was created ?",
"I actually liked it the song choice. Got me hyped for the season in the moment.",
"Yeah, they're just small timers. The main dude 331 erock is just a fun chill dude that loves playing. I like his old game music the most. Castlevania Meets Metal is *chef's kiss*",
"He is too tall as well.. I always found Geralt average size... also his white hair looks weird....\n\nThats why the show doesn't make sense to me... you are trying to have sex through the game with Yen and Trish who are hot af.. Then in the show, Geralt is a fucking adonis, and Yen and Trish are a Scranton 2, New York 0. If you want to fuck the race of the characters have the fucking decency to keep the essence of them.",
"Dogs are legends mate.",
"They filmed it with cameras and it was before the invention of the camera, 0/10. \n\nIt’s a trailer, Kanye won’t be in the show lol.",
"Gunna tag onto your comment and ask everyone:\n\nDoes watching this trailer give too much away? Should I avoid it? I'm caught between reeeeally wanting to see more and not wanting a lot of the story spoiled.",
"If you scroll up I mention that there were some good and some bad across the season",
"Casino Royal was released at the height of the poker craze. I think it was just after the nobody guy (Moneymaker) won the wsop main event and online poker was getting big. Seemed like everyone was playing for awhile there, including me.",
"feels like every trailer is algorithmically generated based on the most popular searches online during production.",
"I just finished up A Game For Squids, so I am looking forward to The Witch ER",
"How'd he do bad story wise?",
"The cast didnt make sense and kinda butchered the plot for me.. Yen is hideous.. Trish as well.. and Geralt is a Adonis.. and HE does things to fuck them.. Im a regular looking dude and I wouldn't do shit for ugly ass Yen",
"If the song couldn’t feasibly be used in the film/tv show, I don’t think it should be in the trailer. It indicates a clear difference in tone between the two and that should never be the case with a trailer. \n\n\n\nThe only exception IMO being the Dune teaser that used Pink Floyd, that was fucking awesome.",
"geralt of trivia",
"stupid music",
"The comment I replied to spoke about the budget in terms of costumes and sets (lacking color). The best director in the world can only do so much when it comes to costumes with a relatively low (compared to LOTR) budget.",
"Everyone's mentioned the poor song choice, but I suppose we should be grateful they didn't throw Nicki Minaj's part into the trailer too.\n\nI mean, they could have at least found a way to have an instrumental version of the song. Why even have the words if you're going to censor \"I'm a motherfucking monster\" over and over again?\n\nThe rest of the trailer looked cool, so I guess there's that.",
"Dandelion's \"Get over it\" made me lose it",
"Yesssss. I feared the worse when I saw they made an animated one, and thought the main show was cancelled",
"That's how a lot of Velen (and HoS in particular) felt to me as a Pole. This show, on the other hand, feels like generic American fantasy.",
"Could be a Philly fan tho",
"It’s pretty accurate given the effects and poor quality compared to movies",
"I never watch trailers for things I know I am going to watch, going in blind is so much more fun.",
"There was also the whole first season",
"It pretty much comes down to what you've listed, while his behaviour is pretty much a flanderised version of the games version of Geralt. He's essentially an 18+ Shrek instead of the insecure brooding character from the books.",
"They're not talking about The Witcher, which I assume is what you are talking about.",
"everybody knows im a mother fucking monster",
"There is nothing inherently toxic about dissatisfaction, negative opinions are just as valid as positive ones.",
"The trident breaking off on a force field is an awesome shot.",
"Nightmare of the wolf. A prequel movie about Vesemir. Came out a couple months ago.",
"I've been stuck on [the remix by Klon](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkkkKxHJtoo) since it released",
"Imagine how much better this trailer would be with zero pop music.",
"Yes to both?",
"And the Wheel of Time on November 19.",
"That song really lessened the presentation of the season imo. Way out of place",
"My only complaint about the anime is they made the signs *waaay* too powerful.",
">Do elves rap in Temeria now? \n\nI mean, I can't say I'd hate it if the last episode was just a giant rap battle between human forces and the Squirrels.",
"Sorry about your weak brain cells.",
"They did it for The Great Gatsby",
"Toss a coin for the Witcher!",
"cool trailer ruined by unfitting music. fucking sick of rap in dark fantasy... just use fitting music for trailers like GoT did.",
"My wife usually isn't like that,l usually- this is weird for her 😅\n\n I'll tell you a story from my youth though- as a teen in the mid 80s my friend had a Commodore 64, and he would play Ultima III on it. It was a single player game, but it had a party of 4 characters, so he would take two and I would take two, and we would.pass.the keyboard back and forth to control our characters. It was a pirated version of the game, so we had no instructions- we found out every aspect of the world by accident, trial and error, or randomly pressing keys.\n\nIt took us months to complete the game, but those late nights and weekends were some of the most fond memories of those years.",
"Ayy nice",
"reusing music from season 1 would have been better.",
"This is what happens when you have a stroke and then try to pose on the Internet.",
"best cgi blood sprays in the biz. almost seems practical. almost",
"I understood every single word of this comment, and that terrifies me",
"We've all got that one Coin that scratches our itch",
"The most amazing part of this trailer is making Jay-Z's verse on \"Monster\" sound good",
"If they were going to cast a black woman for Fringilla they could've just done the same for Yen, but she's not a redhead or antagonist so I guess that was out of the question.",
"Hope they didn't show all the best bits in the trailer.",
"We got a new trailer just a couple of days ago. I'm pretty hyped tbh. It does have some wonky choices (channeling hopefully will get better in later seasons) but it really seems like a lot of love went into it. I really want it to be good!",
"Here's another really good one\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_50m0Vm5VvQ",
"It's awesome how 50 different varients of the same comment get upvoted.",
"this bit always felt like puritanical horseshit. Like, \"we know what \"i'm a mother-mother monster\" means, man. No need to dance around the wording like that.\"",
"Nilfgaard??? I thought they’ve been saying Milfgaard damn",
"It's also a sign (at least to me) that the show is destined to be crap. If the actor thought it was going to be something big, he probably wouldn't jump ship.",
"Yeah but I mean I'm not giving a pass to these people that only played 3 and then want to bitch and criticize the show that's based on the books and exists almost as an entirely separate entity from the video games.\n\nI'm kind of irritated with these types of people in general especially after seeing the new Dune movie. They want this information spoon fed to them through visual media instead of just reading the damn books that go into excruciating detail. Do the \"work\" first then you can come in and enjoy the stunning visual representation.\n\nIt was like the people who bitched about not getting certain details in LOTR, like bitch go read the books if you really want to understand it the movies are doing the best they can to abridge it for you dummies.",
"Some of it isn't just the costumes, but how to frame and shoot a scene, with the right lighting, tone, etc. Even if you have great costumes and a huge budget, a crappy director can still make it look and feel amateur.",
"The show shoves the theme of \"control\" down your throat and Yenefer's arc is essentially about gaining faux control in her life, losing it through her expanded perspective on her fertility, trying to regain control the entire season and then regaining it at the end when she napalms everyone except her mother figure. \n\nBut you fragile anti pc types are gonna see what you wanna see.",
"Brothel gwent tournament or we riot.",
"God damn it.",
"Yeah, it's marketing. But... holy shit licensing that must have been an INSANE COST for a trailer. I recently worked on a movie and wanted to license a rather famous song. It was astronomical. We had someone cover it instead and that wasy way, way cheaper.",
"Not if you're trying to expand your audience, which is the only reason Netflix renews shows",
"The black rubbery ballsack armor? \n\nYou liked that?",
"I don't even know what wsop is, yet that was one of my favourite bond movies. In fact, I've heard some of the sequences were a bit silly to experienced poker players (like everyone getting the best cards possible and the card dealer explaining every hand to the players). The actual game of gwent wouldn't be the story, it would be what happens as a result of the game. Like someone using magic to cheat for example.",
"It's not garbage, it's just not meant for reddit. Many people commenting here already saw season 1 and will likely watch season 2. Netflix only renews shows they believe will CONTINUE to expand their audience. That's who this was meant for, the main stream that may not have been interested in this in the first place.",
"I hope they don't do that stupid time-jumping shit this time around.",
"He's probably mad that so much was left out and the film still felt like it barely got into the story.\n\nHe probably doesn't know the guy had a 4 hour film on his hands and knew he had to cut it down to get his sequel(s?). Too bad we might never get that director's cut since DV doesn't believe in them.",
"That worked better thematically though imo. With each song of the soundtrack chosen to represent the characters themes and dispositions. \n\nThe song \"monster\" is about the medias representations of each of the rappers (apart from jay's verse which is just about monsters) and idrk if that fits any of the themes of The Witcher.",
"I knew that Abbey looked familiar!",
"ITT people not understanding how putting a massively popular and critially received song in a Netflix show is exactly what Netflix needs to do to continue to use this show to expand their audience even if they don't like it. If you don't like it, they weren't marketing to you, but that doesn't mean it's bad. People here complaining about it likely already watched the first season and will likely watch the second so... hint hint you aren't the target audience for the trailer.",
"Drop a coin for the fans.",
"Lol... it's Netflix. They are going for the biggest audience possible. It's not their job to make Witcher fan-boys happy, it's to get the biggest audience. If you didn't like the trailer it likely wasn't meant to market to you; and that's ok.\n\nThe alternate is that they don't think they can use this show to get more subscribers and it is cancelled after season 1.",
"> they show no interest from the get go to at least try and stick with the source material\n\nCan you give me some examples of what you mean? In my opinion they stick to the source material decently enough but some changes are required as you cannot just use the books or the games as a script and start filming. Game of Thrones, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings etc are all perfect examples of movies and series based on books with major changes that ended up being wildly successful in adapting dense lore to a wider audience. So are the Marvel movies and the Boys which are based on comics but with giant changes as well and in my opinion do a fantastic job. \n\nThe showrunner and Cavill have spent [a good amount of time](https://www.looper.com/647289/the-witcher-showrunner-teases-that-season-2-will-closely-follow-one-of-the-books/) responding to feedback that the story was a little messy and how they are working to improve it to make it more book coherent. Not to mention, some of the major events covered in the show are things mentioned only in passing in the books like the Siege of Cintra and the Battle of Sodden or cover more specific things such as Yennefer's backstory. Its also no secret that the books are outdated and very messy themselves and have their fair share of narrative issues. Not to mention, the video games also took certain content from the books and made major changes and created something truly impressive out of them. \n\nThe show also led to toss a coin to your witcher which itself is a masterpiece. I play it on Beatsaber.\n\nI am sure there is a version that could work as a similar POV narrative following Geralt only just like the books and games but in doing that you drastically limit your audience which unfortunately is not how you get a series into the public eye especially for people previously unfamiliar with the source content. My non video gamer spouse absolutely loves the show, and she is not one to normally consume hard fantasy content and if the show did not exist she would never in a million years play the games or read the books or have any idea about the world which is a huge boon of the show.",
"It was god awful. It's not even just the opinion of hardcore fans who know what nilfgaardian is supposed to look like. It looked terrible. I like the armour depicted in this trailer far greater.",
"I mean, that song fucking slaps, it's just wrong for this trailer",
"Poovenir",
"What's with the rap music in a show about medieval fantasy lol",
"The most annoying thing was that song about paying the Witcher which sounded like something from a Broadway musical when there's no much interesting folk music from Eastern Europe they could have based it on.",
"I don't think it spoils much of anything, though there are a couple nice nods to one of the short stories in The Last Wish, the only one not covered in Season 1 and my personal favorite, A Grain of Truth. It's mostly just clips of random action scenes.",
"As a New York fan, I fully endorse this comment.",
"God, I wish I was you.",
"So much hype. Looks utterly incredible but that music choice was God awful.",
"It's just a weave, Egwene.",
"I sure hope this song is a trailer only thing. The only music should be fitting from the games.",
"Looks like I have a reason to actually watch Netflix again \n\nI’ve been off platform since finishing Last Kingdom season 5",
"Having recently finished The Last Wish and Sword of Destiny (and the first three novels), I think they've actually covered all of the short stories other than A Grain of Truth which is featured in this trailer. There could also potentially be Season of Storms content via flashbacks I guess, though I think that's a novel and not more short stories so I'm not sure how it would fit in. Other than A Grain of Truth it looks to me like they're roughly covering the first two novels.",
"It was a god awful trailer for a section of the source material that is pretty good. You didn't miss anything.",
"You'll have to ask /u/Killboypowerhed’s dog.",
"The day I get back from deployment! Best news yet!!!",
"World series of poker. And yeah that Bond scene was pretty hilarious. Bond got extremely lucky with a straight flush and everyone else at the table had like 3 of a kind or full houses or better. It was shot to make it seem like Bond was some poker genius, but in that situation there's really no possible way it doesn't go the way it did, even a newborn would clean up in that hand.",
"Hell house?",
"they show a lot of monsters, if you consider those spoilers",
"Thank god they fixed the Nilfgaardian ballsack armour.",
"I’m so excited for this! …but that music tho.. wtf was that?",
"Are you talking shit about Jay-Z? I didn't care about the content of the trailer because... I know what's going to happen. The plot here is not exactly a wild ride. But I'm for sure trying to find that remix of Monster somewhere.",
"I love how nerds ALWAYS REEEEEEEEEEEEEE when there's rap in their nerd shit.",
"This rap music with medieval is perfect.. come on who green lit that music.. come on!",
"I agree - like I don’t think rap is a good pairing here, at least not this style of rap (anything is possible, but rap is just tough for background music in any case because it’s all words and story telling - it’s super distracting). But of ALL the rap, you’re gonna use Kanye when his personal stock in the absolute crapper? \n\nIt just screams some executive involvement like “the song is called monster and he’s a monster Hunter! We must use it!” It’s so stupidly on the nose and totally inappropriate.",
"He was one of the few who actually looked how the books describe lol. To be fair, the season 2 replacement still does",
"Modern music just has no place in the fantasy genre, it just seems completely ridiculous. Just do classical, simple instrumentals, or chorus pieces. Game of Thrones tended to at least save modern pieces like this for the credits, but I never even liked it for that, it just doesn’t fit. It’d be like playing Weird Al in the background for some sort of super serious historical drama, it just doesn’t fit and distracts the viewers from whatever you’re trying to show. We shouldn’t notice the music more than anything else.",
"oh goody! then you didn’t miss their absolutely bizarre fn choice of having the artist now know as ye rapping to their s2 montage",
"i wonder who gave the eulogy",
"r/rapmorelikecrap",
"Producers must have caught fire on some Gwent hands",
"how about a female twist",
"Using existing music is cheap. Original scores are way more expensive.",
"I think they cast him well but they must not be taking the book route because they only thought he was evil in the books and he turns out to be kinda cool, but he’s pretty evil in the show.",
"Same with any physical trait to me, to be honest. And that can be pretty flexible too. Don’t want to live in a world where Morgan Freeman isn’t in *Shawshank* or Daniel Radcliffe isn’t Harry Potter, for example",
"They’re doing my favorite story of the ogre looking guy and his vampire girlfriend.",
"I feel like using the censored version really gives away that it’s trailer-only",
"i think it will be good just because i feel like all of season 1 had good music so more of the same to come",
"Padded Scrote, studless",
"yay, they ironed out their scrotum wrinkles.",
"gross",
"Let's use music that won't be used in the series for the trailer that isn't remotely themed to it whatsoever!",
"I was looking for it but it doesn’t look like they are getting that far.",
"The majority of the casting is forced for diversity's sake.",
"Halo and Witcher, December will kick ass for once in my adult life.",
"I liked the music tbh",
"I don’t think they time jumped much in 2nd through 4th books but it became the main way to storytell in the last books",
"when I realize I'm the only one who didnt hate the music choice 😭😭😭 no, it doesn't fit the show, but it's only a trailer and it did its job to hype me up. Also, M-M-Monsters!!",
"Pam param...",
"Heeey step-witcher",
"You big into paper maché or something?",
"The show shoves the concept of destiny down your throat actually, not sure how you missed that. Also I'm not even remotely \"anti pc\" and the fact you'd conflate that from what I said shows you're seeing what you wanna see, to the contrary. Also the latter part of your sentence doesn't happen in the books which clearly indicates the showrunner putting her own swing on it, not my own perceived viewing or whatever you're implying.",
"How the hell did this get a second season but Nick Frosts \"Truth Seekers\" gets canceled????",
"They’re just doing the stories from the second book this time. I saw the ogre and vampire gf, showdown between the side pieces of yennifer, reince, breaking dandelion out of jail, ciri training at Kaer morgen, the thug assassins in the alley story, and some others. Other than the post sodden hill stuff those were all depictions of book 2 stories",
"I would wonder why so many redditors are furious about culturally black music in the trailer, and then I remembered the protagonist is the shining specimen of white superiority.\n\nNext time something like this angers you, look inside and ask yourself why. The answer isn't always pretty, but recognizing it is the only way we can all move forward.",
"Yeah because nothing says \"Witcher\" like the lyrics \"Pink wig, thick ass, give em whiplash\"",
"I think this is a bad comment 🙃",
"r/lameclaimtofame",
"Liking the monster song, recalling this old juggling video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gToDAwPdCWQ",
"thank you. exactly what I was scrolling the comments for",
"> I fucking love the Witcher, so I watch and somewhat enjoy the show, but this show misses the mark on so many levels.\n\nI feel the same. I watched S1 but honestly I don't think any of it was particularly great. And this trailer just feels off too. I wish I could get excited for it but it's just not in the cards yet for me with this show apparently...",
"If they want to stay true to the game it will have to be in the middle of a siege or something.\n\n\"Geralt! They've broken through the south wall and are slaughtering the women. What do we do!?\"\n\n\"Wanna play cards?\"\n\n*Nods in silence with hands on hips*",
"worst music choice for a trailer ever. \n\nand i like the song. \n\nbut hearing 'gossip gossip' over geralt slaying monsters... \n\nand they didn't even bother to use bits that didn't require censoring the lyrics... they only used like a half a bar at a time, could have easily cut around that. \n\n\nwho approved this?",
"No way, fountains Abbey? I went on a school trip like 20 years ago, we had to dress as monks and pretend to be monkish",
"How so? Is \"This movie is awesome, I love it\" a more valuable comment than \"This movie is awful, I hate it\"?",
"yo, put up a spoiler alert next time dude.",
"Why the rap song? Killed the vibe.",
"Killed me. IT'S PERFECT. It's all I want.",
"That cover was made by Hans Zimmer lol WAY DIFFERENT.",
"What’s Wheel of Time?",
"I read the entire thing with a Welsh accent and everything made perfect sense.",
"I’ve heard Frank Herbert liked to take a monthly wake in the Dunes of Oregon fucked up on massive doses of mushrooms.",
"Fuck.\n\nYep, totally in.",
"Hmm. Fuck",
"Rap song sucked, also the race changes and all that nonsense from Season 1 is a pass from me.",
"i expanded my comment instead of replying to everyone who asked.\n\ncheck it out if you want. just some thoughts, ya know?",
"i expanded my comment instead of replying to everyone who asked.\n\n \ncheck it out if you want. just some thoughts, ya know?",
"i expanded my comment instead of replying to everyone who asked. \ncheck it out if you want. just some thoughts, ya know?",
"Going to say this so do not kill me... the Witcher books are average at best",
"Cuz no one ever heard of that shit lol",
"Or even YE’s opening lines. It’s moody and he drags it out. It would have been streets ahead of Jay’s half bleeped out verse.",
"I'm so happy. Wheel of Time comes out in November and then we get The Witcher right after that. Both of them look very entertaining",
"There was a similar thing going on with the game where people were so occupied complaining about missing BAME representation they completely missed the fact that a huge international success of a polish studio with a polish IP rooted in slavic folklore was by itself a significant contribution to diversity in gaming. It's unfortunately a nuance that is missed by American audiences and it shows in the Netflix show as well.\n\nNevertheless I loved the first season and will watch the second the day it releases.",
"ur rite, \"Kanye west samples, here's one for example\" is a much better fit",
"I thought the same. Like season 1 had banger after banger on the soundtrack. Throwing a kanye track over the trailer is a big downgrade.",
"Yeah I couldn’t even watch it. Irresponsible music choice lol.",
"Is that mfn MONSTER HOUSE",
"I think it was good",
"Maybe Netflix was licensing it for something else and got a group rate? XD",
"Idk man it hyped me up. Its probably just for the trailer.",
"ye coming as the album its off of being one of my all time favorites its just so out of place lmao",
"Man, I sincerely hope they learned from the first season, but I’m not expecting the books to have been entirely disregarded in this one, as well",
"Cannot wait!!!!!!",
"DVDs had that too, and then blu-ray made them unskippable. There was some classic sci-fi movie that had a 17 minute preview of the remake you couldn't skip. The last blu-ray I ever bought in my life, now it's only streaming or piracy.",
"Damn. Henry Cavill absolutely nails the character again. Going from the games to the series, they did a really great job with it.",
"Curious what the inevitable comparisons between this and game of thrones will bring. I’m sure a lot of GoT fans jumped ship on that franchise after the season 8 debacle and have high hopes of the Witcher scratching that itch. So far so good.",
"Season 1 was bad, but this looks really good. \n\nBut man, “Monsters” by Kanye….just because the lyric says “monsters” doesn’t make it a fit for a fantasy monster show trailer.",
"https://i.imgur.com/ozwSMGR.png",
"Wth is up with this music selection?",
"The events depicted took place in Minnesota in 2006.\n\nAt the request of the survivors, the names have been changed.\n\nOut of respect for the dead, the rest has been told exactly as it occurred.",
"weak, tbh",
"Yeah at this point I’m looking at the Netflix series as an “alternate” world from the books. Kinda like how the games aren’t exactly canon",
"You all three get an upvote",
"Lol yep someone was clearly thinking the same thing https://youtu.be/Xl8a2nbec54",
"[Dune's trailer was spot on Film Title.](https://youtu.be/KAOdjqyG37A)",
"This looks just as horrible as the first season. Looks so low budget",
"Nothing says “fantasy rural poland” like American hip hop.",
"I got bored of S1 after a few episodes—was it worth finishing?",
"Geralt only kills monsters who endanger people.",
"Yes, it's about Braveheart.",
"I hope the timeline makes more sense this time around.",
"He carries two swords, yes.",
"Very good point, I completely forgot about that.\n\nAlthough I do still feel bad for most of em overall. I just wanna study them forever.",
"might be the worst music decision for a trailer that I've seen. *Everybody knows I'm a ...................*",
"Yeh they're just not going to mesh so it's easier and probably fairer to view them in isolation from the games. Books are source material but the games are just another adaptation, both can deviate. The popularity of the games have made them be seen almost a much canon as the books but in fairness the series should only be expected to conform to the books",
"Works for me.",
"That's a Cyberpunk thing! \nhttps://imgur.com/r/cyberpunkgame/fZZ6trl",
"For what they’ve covered from the books, I think they’ve done alright. I recall him being quite the menace to Ciri early on.",
"Majority? Certainly not Geralt, Ciri, Jaskier, Cahir, nor Yennefer. \n\nTogether they compose the entirety of the main cast revealed so far (we're lacking the casting of members of Geralt's Hansa like Regis). So I emphatically reject your claim.\n\nTriss is only a major character in the games, and it was a stark change from the books.",
"Yes. It's fantastic.",
"They said it’s supposed to be linear this time.",
"The video game version looks way better",
"It felt like it wasn’t evil because it lacked context in the book. Mind you I’m only at the end of book 6 so I don’t know the whole story. But he felt really disconnected from the actions in the book and then in the show he felt like a sinister mastermind. I don’t know how they’re going to explain the transition if they do it at all",
"Gerald spends the vast majority of 2 books not trusting Cahir, I wonder if they're going super dark for the audience to not trust him for 2 whole seasons as well. >!Even book readers who may know the redemption arc.!<",
"... Yennefer is being played by an Indian woman, so I'm not sure why she's included in your \"not a POC\" list. Fringilla, Triss, Phillipa, Nenneke, Istredd, Artorius, Vilgefortz, Coen, Francesca. Most of the dryads.\n\nIt's forced diversity for diversity's sake. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.",
"SO excited for WoT!!!!",
"Did they remove Renfri's emblem from his sword?",
"holy fuck that looks amazing",
"Yennefer looks plenty fair skinned to me, wouldn't have been able to tell you her actor was Indian in the first place (she's also white through her mother's side, by the by). She fits the part as per Yennefer's beauty and hair color certainly. Seems like a good casting to me.\n\nThe other characters range from minor to cameos. Is that for diversity's sake? Sure maybe. But you can't honestly claim the show casts majority diverse with the main cast all white actors.\n\n> Sorry if that hurts your feelings.\n\nLol. Why does the anti-woke crowd always go \"OH YOU DISAGREE WITH ME HAHA I HURT YOUR FEELINGS\". As if you think we get as worked up about this stuff as you do.",
">As if you think we get as worked up about this stuff as you do.\n\nYou seem pretty touchy about someone calling it out.\n\n>(she's also white through her mother's side, by the by)\n\nOh, forgive me, I guess she doesn't really count as a person of color then?",
"They couldn’t have picked a worse song for this trailer if they tried.",
"God I wish the Jodorosky adaptation had happened, his movies are fucking insanity lol",
"Maybe all the white actors should've done better in their auditions, or are you just assuming they did because you are definitely a white supremacist? Lmao",
"Most of what we’ve seen has literally been out in the woods or in fields riding horses.",
"Trailers used to be teasers for the movie. A few on theme quips, some location shots, a few interesting characters. Now they are movie speedruns. It feels like someone asked \"if we really pushed, how condensed could we get this movie down to?\" And boom, there's your modern trailer. Why are they 3 minutes long? 30 seconds MAX.",
"I just want more Henry Cavill sitting naked in a hot bath. Is that too much to ask?",
"They changed the actress for triss?",
"I'd have much preferred a still image of \"The Witcher season 2 coming this December\" to this shitty trailer but I'm hyped nonetheless.",
"Well…the show has raised a pretty big middle finger to the books, so..",
"No doubt, no doubt; witcher 3 equipment design was just gorgeous.\n\nBear armor was so tight.\n\nBut I don't think that was the same esthetic they were going for. And the nilfs weren't the same, like, at all. In the game they were this RICH nasty warmongering imperial dictatorship with some very extensive history. In the series they're a bunch of fanatics with a very different vibe to them. Their game armor, again, looks great, but didn't seem practical or realistic. It was fairy-tale stuff. The show felt more believable to me.\n\nEither way, I'm stoked for the new season regardless of the armor.\n\nDid the music in the trailer feel awkward to you?\n\nNow I wanna play the game again...",
"Careful. Don't lose that coin if you got an itchy ass.",
"Wow, didn’t know this was coming out, i had a feeling they would do it someday. I started reading these books in middle school and they didn’t finish until I was in my 30s. I need to finish the books.",
"That is a lucky dog",
"Because you are going to watch this anyway\n\nSo the trailer was targeting general audiences. Not Witcher nerds on reddit",
"Unpopular opinion time. I thought the writing improved when Sanderson took over to finish them.",
"He was not. He was chasing her but her imagining him as a menace wasn't accurate. He protected her and cleaned her up, but she was terrified and ran and imagined him as a villain.",
"That's awesome!",
"That's Richard Horn",
"I’m not. It looks butchered.",
"Yea…the music was great until they mixed that bullshit in there. Like wtf lol. Please no fuckin hip hop during the season.\n\nI love all genres of music, but that kinda ruined the trailer",
"Pretty much just shows the evils they'll face this season in small snippets at a time narrated with a daunting voice over of what's to come.",
"Fuck yeah! \n—Roy Kent",
"The total whiteness of magic is annoying for someone who read the books way too closely 20 years ago.",
"Read the books. The Netflix show is a poorly done mainstream adaption of the series.",
"I’ve heard that and it’s why I want to finish them. By the time we hit volumes in the double digits I was losing interest.",
"The main music was good….the shitty kanye mixed over the orchestra score was a bad call. Ruined it for me. Its all i could think off lol",
"Henry Cavill - If you are reading, what the everloving fuck man. You let them butcher characters. Butcher the monster fights (behind the back, w/o looking, rly? And that Leshen IS AWEFUL). *They Butcher Geralt*. Why do you allow this. Is it Anya? The producers? Why won't you put your foot down and make quality my man? Come on. This series, that you're supposedly a fan of, is the LOTR of Poland. I mean...God I can't believe I actually wanted to write for Netflix someday because this and S1, this is some lazy garbage. I hope I'm proven wrong.\n\nEdit - Full Rant - am Drunk: Ok so. You have one of the greatest fantasy properties ever written, and you do THIS WITH IT?!? MY MIND REELS AT THE SHEER ABSURDITY OF THE IMAGE, OF THE COMMITEE WHO WERE LIKE \"YEP THIS'LL DO.\" This property, deserves to have it's time taken with it. This show and everyone involved could become IMMORTALS, some the proud few who were able to produce quality content, made with real dedication but NOPE. \"LET'S TAKE ONE OF THE GREATEST DARK FANTASY PROPERTIES KNOWN TO MAN AND BURN IT TO THE FUCKING GROUND TO MAKE A QUICK BUCK AND SECURE THE RIGHTS, SO THAT IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO MAKE SOMETHING WE CAN PERSONALLY TELL THEM TO GET FUKT.\" Said the producers at Netflix.\n\nI mean, really? What's next? You piss on Miura's grave and poorly adapt Berserk? Cowboy Bebop already looks off brand just just. Why? Why do you do this Netflix? You tread on my dreams, on all our dreams. Are you all psychopaths? Is that what this is?!? Fuck. You have BITCOIN MONEY. We all know you do, and THIS!?!?!?! THIS IS WHAT WE GET FOR SHOEING IN OUR FUCKING PENCE WHEN WE CAN BARELY AFFORD BREAD?!?! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU",
"Toss a coin MFers",
"All your points are valid. But it still looked like ballsacks.",
"Yeah man, it's definitely that my Mexican/Lebanese ass is a White Supremacist, it couldn't possibly be that I want the casting to match the source material as closely as possible. \n\nAnd before you cry that the show is based on the books - the only character that was described as having dark skin is Leila. \n\nThere is nothing wrong with fans wanting adaptations to stick closely to the source material.",
"Even as a hip hop fan it seemed way out of place and I honestly enjoy the creepy pop songs they tend to use instead. It's become gimmicky, but I dig it.",
"AH yes shitty hip hop music in a trailer of a high fantasy monster adventure for the trailer seems appropriate.",
"As someone who hasn't read the books, who are the characters that are specifically described as being white and it actually matters to them as a character?",
"WHo the fuck in Hollywood picks the music for these trailers? Why the FUCK do they think modern hip hop fits in with a total high fantasy show?\n\nFucking christ. Ruined the trailer for me",
"Ahhhh! Fuck yeah Jaskier!!!",
"confirmed not wavy",
"IN A WORLD",
"Yeah don't get me wrong, I love the song and I wanted to like it's placement, but it was definitely weird",
"I’m listening",
"Almost looks like they plucked the designs out of the game.",
"Denis Villeneuve is a Dune fanatic, he pays exceptional attention to detail, I can pretty much guarantee that was why the Pink Floyd song was chosen.",
"I've had a note in my phone about wheel of time for like a year, I'm super excited",
"Someone did: \n[Witcher S2 Trailer but it's LE LE LE](https://youtu.be/daPjNAG1LHg)",
"Whoever chose the music for this trailer should never be allowed to listen to music again.",
"That's certainly a ...... choice, for the song.\n\nSuper excited to see the new season tho!",
"Yennefer (pale and dark haired) and Fringilla's similarity is a good example.",
"Wow I hope the show doesn't have that soundtrack.",
"Looks like it's going down the same downhill road as GoT did, but more quickly.",
"Yennefer actress is a POC so if it's important that fringilla looks like her, shouldn't fringilla also be a POC? And if being white doesn't matter to literally any other character, why do you care if they're white or not? Why is it forced diversity to not have white be the default? Is it that unreasonable in a fantasy world to have POC?",
"Nah! Judging from the displayed trailer, Witcher took only two seasons to go into the toilet. GoT took 3 or 4.",
"My boy groot made it",
"Really? Kanye West? Really.",
"poopception.",
"netflix trailers are just scene after scene of disjointed scenes that go on too long, end abruptly and the whole thing lasts way longer than it should. They definitely don't feel like they're cut by people.",
"Weird flex",
"Fuck.",
"Did they forget the contact lenses again?",
"Spread the word my disciple.",
"Out of curiosity, what was a ballpark figure for the licensing fees?",
"Lol thank you for permission to enjoy it.",
"Dandelion!",
"😃👍",
"> Oh, forgive me, I guess she doesn't really count as a person of color then?\n\nDid I say she wasn't a POC? No I said she was quite fair skinned, which is completely consistent with having half English and half Indian ancestry.",
"Disappointed it's going to be the same actor, hopefully the actor has improved at... acting, but the chance of that happening is low.",
"The guy followed up with Yennefer, but the show Yennefer is both a POC and fair skinned/white (half Indian/half White ancestry). I didn't even realize it until they brought it up.\n\nShe also fits Yennefer's beauty and hair color. Yennefer is supposed to have violet eyes I guess and the show version has black, but that's not a real eye color (aside from some with albinism) and I think it would look weird in live action.\n\nThe characters who don't fit the Polish aesthetic are minor to cameo characters. And it wouldn't matter if they weren't, but their claim just doesn't pass the sniff test.",
"Considering what happened to Yennifer’s character, you can’t really expect Triss to have red hair..",
"I did not like the show. He is one of the least bad things about it for sure. Tons of horrible miscasts, yennefer who is shown in this trailer returns from season one (the actor) and she is a very noob actor, the writing was piss-poor, some episodes it's almost as if the director and cinematographer were working on their first film before graduating film school (same with the lighting guys for some of those shots), most action sequences are poorly choreographed and shot.\n\nThere was a different director for almost every episode... 80% of them are awful directors, you can see that they either work on bad shows or shows that aren't related to fantasy settings, also the producers deserve a nod because they're also quite terrible at their jobs for assembling such a lackluster set of talent to begin with.\n\nSo it's kind of like just another netflix original in those regards. Only watch it if you're a massive fan of witcher and are a masochist. I think the dividing line in the sand in terms of how people talk about it online are whether or not they tolerate substandard acting/writing to begin with, if they do, then there's a much better chance they liked the show, which is a lot more people than you'd assume.",
"Fits much better for a quick edit",
"Aye.",
"So much better",
"REALLY bad. But it was fitting for the tone set by the fact that everything about the show was bad lol.",
"lmfao true.",
"I guess they don't have the N-word on the continent",
"I have no problem with them casting an Indian as Yen, I know a lot of people were reeeeing hard over the fact she wasn't white, I did however have a problem with the fact that she was one of the innumerable shit actors on the show. I think the trend will increase considering Netflix is trying to expand marketshare in places like India (notice how much bollywood content they've added).",
"It's marketing, all they care about is recognition and the possibility that it will lead to more eyes on the trailer.",
"Your opinion isn't controversial. It only seemed controversial on release because The Witcher had a lot of manufactured hype leading up to its release thanks to Netflix's marketing spend on social media platforms. Don't know if you've noticed but they tend to do it for a lot of their garbage like what was it... bird box and other mediocre/outright bad stuff because buying upvotes and retweets is cheap as fuck and media platforms allow it when it's big corporations doing the manipulation.",
"Looks like it's time to watch season 1 again",
"The only the information I wanted, didn't even look at the video.",
"[1:42](https://youtu.be/TJFVV2L8GKs?t=102) Is that John Wick?",
"The robert jordan hump. Its a real struggle but you will be pleased to have pushed past it to the last 3 books",
"I really hope that's true, it's a horrible fit",
"I didn’t watch the trailer. I just came to the comments to see peoples impressions on it. This is what I see instead. Not even mad.",
"Fair about talking vs seeing what they're talking about, but that's how Duny presents his story in the books too.",
"Have you read the books? The hedgehog prince's story is definitely not filler-there's much more to be revealed when the time is right, which wasn't at that point.",
"[1:55-1:56](https://youtu.be/TJFVV2L8GKs?t=116) Behind Ciri. Pretty sure that's Anna Shaffer (like the likeness is 99.99% like last season) but w/ reddish auburn hair, or I could be wrong",
"Yea her story with the rats and the hermit in the swamp is really good. Fuck Bonhart.",
"Well put but how the hell did you get negative karma and 8 awards!\n\nBattle of Kanye West fans and haters Im gusessing?",
"I hate how everyone ignores the expanse.\n\nThat show is absolutely brilliant and it's also the final season. \n\nSad face.",
"Welp.. the writer specifically dissed Ed Sheeran's cameo.. so it's up for a Kanye cameo! /s",
"It's the only thing I want to know about season 2 before I watch it.",
"Well, lots of people tossed coins",
"With everyone talking about how good it was I gave it a shot. Turned out it's about xena warrior princess level of writing and acting but for modern audiences. If you're okay with that then you'll probably enjoy it. I like Xena because of the nostalgia but because Witcher doesn't have any nostalgic value to me, I couldn't get into it",
"For some reason this looked more like a play then a top tier show to me. The first season of the witcher didn't seem all that great to me either. I'd like to enjoy this show so I hope I'm wrong.",
"Loved the music choice. I can understand not liking it but I'm laughing at all of these gatekeepers in here saying it sucked because it doesn't match their perceived atmosphere of the books or the games. We get it, you've read/played those. Go lay an egg.",
"You should NFT your dogs poop, assuming you saved that gem",
"Wow didn't know that thanks",
"I'm prepared for this to be meh",
"Did you watch season 1? That's the tone of the show so far, hoped season 2 maybe the characters will not talk like americans in 2020 and it will take itself seriously, but the director doesn't seem to care about themes and the world so it feels like a cheesy soap opera.",
"These balls are as smooth as eggs.",
"The Witcher! The title reminds me of that movie 'Mannequin' when G.W. Bailey as Felix (the security guard) was chasing around Andrew McCarthy as Jonathan Switcher, all the while yelling SWITCHER.",
"They fired the costume director almost right after the first season aired",
"From hundreds of thousands for some songs to millions for hits",
"Everybody’s using some kind of rap in their adverts now, it’s annoying as fuck.",
"Lore-wise, Fringilla should look similar to Yennefer. So Fringilla should be fair-skinned like Yennefer, or Yennefer should be dark-skinned like Fringilla.",
"I was beginning to think I was the only one that didn't like the first season. I'm still hopeful for season 2 though and I hope it gets better.",
"Except for the music. Wtf was that?!",
"lorica scrotomata",
"Who. The. Fuck. Thought Kanye was a good decision for Witcher? Fire that idiot. Destroys the immersion.",
"Yeah but isn‘t the trailer supposed to create an interesting atmosphere? 😅",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAOdjqyG37A\n\n\nEvery single trailer these days.",
"Yeah, then, why not use Pop-Music for the entire score of the series. Add in some other popular stuff like a Horse-Brand called \"Ford\", let the Witcher drink \"Bud Light\" Beer at a Tavern called \"McDonnalds\" and make a heist the central plot of the series.\n\nJust throw everything out of the window the fans liked and made the series successful in the first place to address a broader audience. \n\nYou don't have to resort to mainstream shit. You have to make something special. \n\nSquid Game should have been more successful if it was an american production based on that argumentation. I highly doubt that. \n\nThe audience is not stupid nor is it exclusively american.",
"The reader sees him as perceived by a terrified child. Ciri thought he was abducting her, Cahir thought he was saving her.",
"Thankfully, someone fixed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl8a2nbec54",
"That, and the lyrics to Eclipse match the themes of Dune pretty perfectly.",
"The ball sack armor is gone",
"You son of a bitch! I’m in!",
"Cant wait. Nice xmas treat.",
"More baths?",
"Yeah, for me it always lessens the immersion to hear modern-sounding music in any fantasy series. Electronically generated sounds, in particular.",
"1:55 She's got redder hair than before, still chestnut, but actually reddish now.",
"And Hawkeye on November 24th. And Book of Boba Fett on December 29th.",
"Kinda don’t care after 2…3….4? Years between seasons.",
"If the game music ever gets used I'm legit going to cry. \n\nWith CDPR working closer with them, I'm hoping it happens.",
"I have to say I don't remember what happened in season one at all.",
"Looks like the budget plummeted.. otherwise pretty sweet actually.",
"dang I was hoping for november. looking forward to it",
"Trailer looked great but wtf was that song. Why??",
"So it looks to me like they are taking a lot more short stories from the first book and making them into episodes. I honestly cant wait for the meat of the series to be filmed, so hyped for milva, regis, cahir, Angoulĕme time. I saw a hint of the beginning of that story in the trailer.",
"\"Shomething has changed, Geralt. They removed the throbbing cock veins from the Nilfgaardian armor\"",
"In the Witcher 3 game which is the only one I know, Yennifer is almost always unflappable, imperious. In the first season and what we are seeing of season 2, she's basically a victim struggling against the odds. It feels like they are making her pointlessly weak.\n\n Is this just part of her story arc, and we haven't seen Yennifer of the 3rd game yet?",
"Wow, your ‘cut bwaa cut bwaa’ comment is poetry, efficiency in itself. \n\nAnd also a cost efficient generic replacement for trailers nowadays.",
"Love me some Auralnauts.",
"Are you sure that dog was not a fellow Eagles fan?",
"ballsack armor is gone",
"So happy to see my boy Nivellen finally made an appearance!",
"Nooooo my scrotum armor :(",
"Have you ever had fish sticks?",
"I hope they fired whoever suggested the ball sack armor, idiots.",
"It would have been amazing to have Jaskier do the dramatic voice-over.. \n\n\"In a world filled with monsters, one man stands between humanity and certain death..\"",
"...yes because numbing down shows and movies to appeal to a wider audience tends to result in a poor quality product.\n\nPeople are allowed to critique a show as much as Netflix are allowed to try and grab as much money as they can.",
"I do not recommend this. The wrinkles come back but the balls stay flat.",
"That’s what I’m hoping for! Geralt doesn’t trust him at all up until my personal favorite interaction between the two happens when he tells Cahir so and they have a fist fight! Which is broken up by Milva and her belt like she’s punishing two children lol geralt and Cahir are one of my favorite dynamics. I really hope they don’t ruin that by making Cahir some gross bad guy :/",
"They should just start making the start of a movie really interesting, so if they spoil anything it's never the ending or any twists in the middle.\n\nAnd then just make the rest of the movie even better than the beginning.\n\nEasy peasy, I should be a producer.",
"I wish they'd license the game music. Percivals songs are incredible and make a lot of the Witcher magic happen setting the tone for everything!",
"From what I was told the budget was actually lower than S1, however the fact for S2 they stayed in the UK and didnt film abroad anywhere near as much as S1 probably made it more cost efficient.",
">* More Jaskier; \n\nDon't you mean, *even* Jaskier?",
"I think the plot pace improved dramatically, some dialogues feel a bit silly, though. Sanderson has a way of over explaining that sometimes breaks my immersion.",
"She’s straight up called a redhead a couple of times in the books though. Also, something about her hair looking like fire and other similar descriptions.",
"Man I wanna see this movie now!",
"I cringed too, on the rap music",
"Evil Groot?",
"I dunno man I'm like 6 books in and Nilfgaard still seem pretty \"evil empire\" to me. Absolutely nothing redeemable apart from the odd character who defects from them.",
"Yeah it's funny seeing the game fans be like \"omg Netflix Triss is nothing like the books\" not realising that game Triss is also nothing like the books. Plunging necklines for one.",
"This would all dont Look so cheap If theY would have finally Put a Grey Filter in this. To colorfull.",
"I wasn't going to watch it, read this comment and you enticed me.\n\nDidn't spot a rapper anywhere, *and* I watched it three times to make sure.\n\nI'm not always my sharpest in the morn",
"Definitely the real answer here mate.",
"Fuck.",
"Cyberpunk tries so hard.",
"Calm down. Its only trailer music.",
"Music ruins it, total buzzkill when it started playing. Looking forward to season 2 nonetheless but this trailer I won't watch again",
"I mean, you're wrong. The characters just don't look how you want them to. If the colour of their skin isn't fundamental to their character it doesn't matter who is cast.",
"It’s hilarious. People blindly hate Kanye’s music because it’s an easy cultural point to make. Like feeling clever for saying “Die Hard is my favorite Christmas movie.” \n\nOften those same people will say they love “real” hip hop, which means old shit or Drake depending on their age, or they think he’s an asshole because he says some shit and acts weird, meanwhile they will bump some classic rock made by dudes fucking teenagers, anti-vaxxers and racists. \n\nIt’s just lazy.",
"u/reddit-download",
"Save the video to your device's local storage.\n\n[Link Download](https://redditdownloader.video/download?permalink=/r/videos/comments/qid4hn/the_witcher_season_2_official_trailer_netflix/himlyyu)",
"That music...ffs.. Rly?!",
"Love everything about the trailer. But the music totally kills it, you have to be kidding me 😂",
"The Witcher Chant",
"Man... I love Dark Twisted Fantasy, but hip hop is *really* not the kind of music I associate with this property. It's like they saw that it said 'Monster' and they were like, \"Hey! That's us! That's him! He *kills* the monsters! Yo it's *perfect*! :O\"\n\nIt doesn't ultimately matter, cause I'm never watching the trailer again and there is *zero* chance it's in the actual show, but man it was fuckin' weird. I got so distracted I stopped watching the trailer halfway through. Again, love the album it's originally from, but it just doesn't really jive with this series imo.",
"Trailer with Fixed music by V1talic: \nhttps://youtu.be/Xl8a2nbec54",
"Honestly a good game, at least on PC.",
"Don't you dare jinx it, the possibility of Regis is 50% of the reason why I'm hyped for this show!",
"I don't support piracy, but un-skippable promos on Blu-ray are a worse sin.",
"“HELL HOOOOOOOOUUUUUSE!!!!!”\n\nFF7R anyone?",
"Lol I had exactly the same reaction",
"Witcher is more dark fantasy, so it fits even worse.",
"There's something about the production of this show that I can't put my finger on but it always reads more \"ABC Fantasy\" than \"HBO Fantasy\". Which is odd because it costs more than Game of Thrones to make.\n\nAlso sweet merciful jesus can we make it a law that you can't make a medieval/fantasy show if you're going to put everyone in weird BDSM leather biker gear? I get that armor is expensive to make (not really) but holy shit I'd kill for a season of Geralt in just the S1E1 market fight plain clothes.",
"How dare you make me read this with my own eyes",
"Why can't they get rid of the actress who plays Yennifer. She's so terrible at acting.",
"Hated the music.\n\nStill dislike how it's Jaskier instead of Danelion.\n\nBut damn, I love Henry Cavill as Geralt.",
"Since they are sampling Jay Z's portion of the song it's also a side note to add he talked about Vampires and blood so maybe that played a role as well.",
"To be fair, I think I remember Geralt wearing a black leather jacket with spikes on it in the books. But I agree, it looks terrible on screen and I didn't really like it in the book either. Wish they had Game of Thrones costume design.",
"Yes! Dufus, is it really you?",
"I had the same gripes as a lithuanian. W3's Velen and almost entirety of W1 felt like going back in time and visiting my grandma; Netflix's The Witcher felt like it was shot in some parking lot next to Home Depot or some other US only retail franchise.",
"Ah yes, the music genre of choice for epic fantasy tales: **Hip-Hop**...",
"I don't think it's humanly possible to suck more so in your case I wouldn't worry.",
"You watch your mouth! Toss a coin to your Witcher is a banger!",
"Sounds like one of those songs on Saturday morning kid shows.",
"It didn't belong, at all.",
"Buggy as hell though. Kinda ruins it.",
"Fuck.",
"> My biggest worry for this season is they will try to outdo \"Toss a coin to your Witcher\" and it will suck.\n\nSeason 1 had better songs than \" Toss a coin \" tho'.\n\nHere's one.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnHgZ3JF8pA",
"Eh, people make it sound worse than it really is.\n\nTwo and a half playthroughs, haven't met any gamebreaking bugs. The game is far from perfect, and there are bugs, but if you played No Man's Sky on release, or are familiar with games like Skyrim, it's not that bad.",
"I'm glad at least The Witcher is willing to bring attention to the ongoing housing crisis.",
"I’m so ready",
"Netflix… anachronistic music is the fastest way to turn me off to any of your shows. If it’s featured in any way it comes across as cheap and lazy (I know it’s expensive to use). But since you have Sonya Belousova and Giona Ostinelli, please use them. Game of Thrones wouldn’t have grown the same way without Ramin Djawdi, then same can be argued for the Witcher and it’s composers.",
"What’s BAME?",
"Which will be bull shit if that's the case because in the books Cahir has a pretty good character arc and I would hate for them to completely rewrite him as something far less awesome.",
"Gonna have to disagree with you majorly on that. That song is a wet noodle. No hook, cadence of the singing is awkward. It's just a poorly composed song",
"I started the series like four times. Got to book 5 and then one more tug of her braid from Nynaeve and I lost my shit.",
"The Witcher season 2 has been delayed. I’m waiting for it.",
"Still much better then ballsack nilfgaard armor",
"Hold on. Are you saying that a bit of rap music isn't fitting for a medieval fantasy saga? That's quite controversial.",
"I haven't read/played any Witcher media. Hate the song choice. It absolutely sucks. Learn what fits where",
"I respect that you can hold your own opinion and that music is mostly subjective. That said, your opinion is wrong.",
"Term mostly used in the UK, it stands for Black, Asian and minority ethnic.",
"Oh so like PoC",
"Pretty much.",
"“Good boy. You are Roach now.”",
"Did they recast ciri?",
"Is it like a one time fee or something that has residuals? Because holy shit that is a lot of money.",
"That's not an unpopular opinion, that's pretty standard belief. \n\nWheel of Time did a lot of firsts for the genre and moved things forward, but Eye of the World was published in 1990. There's been decades of improvement as a whole for authors while Jordan really didn't improve his writing much after about the fourth book. \n\nIf someone were to pickup Eye of the World today and start it, honestly, they'd wonder what the big deal is about.",
"I thought I recognised that ruin! They also shot at Gorsdale scar, which I noticed in the trailer.",
"Where?",
"I’m not a fan of that choice either.",
"Huh, TIL. People keep arguing with me about it.",
"You know what else looks like ballsacks?\n\n\nDeez nuts!\n\n::Proceeds to [Deathbag](https://c.tenor.com/xmBwCZ953H8AAAAC/batman-tea-bag.gif) you::",
"Pam pa ram",
"I honestly think the music choice was to draw in the younger crowd whom may have never experienced the Witcher in book or game form. \n\nThey know anyone with Witcher experience will already be watching. It's not for us. It's for the normies.",
"Time of Contempt and Lady of the Lake. There's a moment when Geralt greets and hugs her and she's called \"a redheaded sorceress\". And in the other one Yennifer says she wants to drag her by her red hair.\n\nI didn't read the English version, so I googled Time of Contempt's translation and apparently the translators changed the redhead to \"chestnut-haired\". Weird.",
"That definitely adds to the confusion! Chestnut would be a reddish brown which is more like Triss in the show.",
"They all resemble my ex-wife?",
"Is that the bruxa Vereena?",
"ITS NOT FUNNY ANYMORE TRY DIFFERENT JOKES",
"He was absolutely a menace. Ciri had horrible nightmares for weeks about him chasing her. She was terrified of him.",
"I'm so glad I clicked on that link, lol",
"What? They're pointing out that the photoshop on Ciri's face is horrendous... cos it is.",
"About him chasing her, yes. But he had no intent to harm her despite his orders to. She associated his pursuit with the rest of Nilfgaard and her traumatic escape. Also with, if I remember right, being undressed by him to be washed while she was out cold. In an absolute sense, he was not a menace or a villain, but to her limited knowledge he was.",
"I agree although his orders aren't to harm her as she's needed by nilfgaard. But at this point in the plot Cahir should def be portrayed as a bad guy and a menace.",
"Yeah that’s true - I was busting up when they changed the song for him to say “m-m-m-m-monster” sounds like he’s scared-stuttering and pointing out the window when in reality he’s saying “motherfucking”. \n\nYeah just a lotta choices there. What I hate most in particular is they had to leave in Kanye saying “gossip gossip” - like, what? And that’s kind of what I mean - the song has a clear story and meaning of its own if you listen to anything else beyond the conceit about “being a monster” like I actually _like_ the song itself a lot I just really don’t like this application. \n\nIt would have been amazing if they flipped over to the Nicki Minaj portion when Siri showed up - just really doubled down on the scoring terrible decision haha - I can see the excited executive interloper: “Cuz this is when the lady sings and Siri is a girl!”",
"Yeah, it's fair to not like it for sure. I loved it and have played all the games, read the books, own the vinyl, etc. It's okay to not like it or to like it, but trying to say it's not the right choice because you don't like it is awfully self-centered.",
"S1 was so all over the place that I had a hard time following it even though I'm familiar with the franchise.",
"The tent scene sucked. It was supposed to showcase just how powerful Paul really was and freak Jessica the fuck out. He was supposed to tell her she was Harkonnen’s daughter. \n\nThe Fremen are supposed to be _extremely_ secretive about their culture and lifestyle. Kynes masterminded the whole thing ffs and he would never ride a worm in front of non-Fremen. \n\nNot to even mention how they fucked up Kynes’ death scene. \n\nNo foreshadowing about who the traitor might be like in the books. In the books you knew about the inevitable betrayal and were dreading it. Movie it came out of nowhere. \n\nCould’ve cut some of the Chani wet dreams Paul was having and maybe done the dinner scene or some character development for Yueh. \n\nWasted screen time showing the Rev. Mother leaving and then coming back. Never happened in the books. It could’ve been just one trip where she also did the Gom Jabbar thing.",
"The tent scene sucked. It was supposed to showcase just how powerful Paul really was and freak Jessica the fuck out. He was supposed to tell her she was Harkonnen’s daughter.\n\nThe Fremen are supposed to be extremely secretive about their culture and lifestyle. Kynes masterminded the whole thing ffs and he would never ride a worm in front of non-Fremen.\n\nNot to even mention how they fucked up Kynes’ death scene.\n\nNo foreshadowing about who the traitor might be like in the books. In the books you knew about the inevitable betrayal and were dreading it. Movie it came out of nowhere.\n\nCould’ve cut some of the Chani wet dreams Paul was having and maybe done the dinner scene or some character development for Yueh.\n\nWasted screen time showing the Rev. Mother leaving and then coming back. Never happened in the books. It could’ve been just one trip where she also did the Gom Jabbar thing.",
"If you wouldn't have read the books you would understand very little of what's going on. Even so it was sometime a struggle. Poorly exposed : \nThe emperror and the houses relationship, \n\nWhat the visions mean that they are actually alternate futures that he can choose or get stuck into, \n\nThe upcoming Crusade was horribly shown (a pile of burning bodies and some guys in wierd suits on caladan doesn't cut it). \n\nThe use of swords and guns at the same time and guns that penetrate shields? If you have those all shields become almost useless especially on ships. \n\nWhat mentats are. \n\nThe spice's importance (not only interstellar travel but everyone rich enough uses it to extend life, all the houses and the bene gesserit). \n\nThe sardaukars importance and power , \n\nEven the importance of water on Arakis was not done well.\n\nHe consistently sacrificed the story for the visuals in most of the scenes and yes they were beautiful but many made no logical sense. Also a lot of tell and not show especially with sardaukars, value of water, value and power of spice.",
"I'd say this is actually a very well done trailer. Shows off a higher budget and general vibe, but no real spoilers that I could see.",
"3 times through the games, it never occurred to me that Yennefer was supposed to be caucasian.",
"So mobile homes are canon in The Witcher, cool!\nJust kidding. I am very excited for this.",
"I mean, you do understand the game's music had the same purpose, right? Like, literally all cinematic music shares that goal?",
"Sir, this is a trailer",
"One time fee",
"Sir, this is a trailer.",
"Isn't that the Baba Yaga legend?",
"Agree, I love how much fun Leo has with it.",
"...the comment you replied to was talking about the show specifically.\n\nStay focused, sir.",
"...the comment you originally replied to was talking about the trailer music specifically.\n\nStay focused, sir.",
"...so you're admitting that you couldn't even follow a simple conversation?\n\nMan you're digging your own hole...",
"... so you're admitting that you couldn't even follow a simple conversation?\n\nMan you're digging your own hole...\n\nDo I need to provide a screenshot? This is the comment this thread is under: \"WTF is american rap doing in a witcher trailer LUL\"",
"First I have to say, I'm glad the bard is back! Second...can someone explain to me why they decided to use rap music in the trailer???...",
"Ah , yes . Good ol Henry Cavill making me question my sexuality once again .",
"true, and expect the same Netlifx astroturfing once this season releases as well as for their garbage looking Cowboy Bebop adaptation \n\nit'll be weeks/months after the release, then threads/discussions/comments talking about all the issues of the show will be able to come up as the downvoting squad will be gone. \n\nwe saw this with s1, on release it was \"omg 10/10 perfect show in every way\" and any thread/article/comment being positive on the show was upvoted to high heaven while any single comment that dared to even mention some issues was heavily downvoted. One of the few subreddits were you could actually have a discussion was r/wiedzmin, since it focuses on the witcher books \n\nThen a few months later, you saw people finally able to talk about the many issues of s1, even in places like r/witcher. And recently, even places like /r/netflixwitcher had a lot of discussion about the issues of s1. \n\nso ya, expect the same cycle for s2 :/",
"It ain't exactly Game of Thrones.",
"Yeah everything was buffed in the anime, monsters included. That's probably why I liked it haha.",
"Try the audiobooks, they were much more bearable for me. I still hated most of the main characters, but it was a good listen.",
"Genuinely one of the worst music choices I've ever heard. Not only does hiphop NOT suit the show's aesthetic at all, but they lazily chose a song called \"Monster\" and it's just about being a literal monster so it's also SUPER on-the-nose. They also had three verses to choose from and they chose the worst verse in the song - in fact, it's a verse that regularly shows up on Worst Rap Verses lists. The song is littered with the f-word and the n-word, so of course those parts get censored and the trailer sounds even worse because the lyrics just cut out entirely every few seconds, leaving weird gaps in the lyrics. Lastly, there are the really blatant and jarring dips in the song's volume whenever dialogue is spoken.\n\nI can't wait for this show to go the route of Game of Thrones and get so popular that they just abandon the source material entirely to jam in as much broadly-appealing visual spectacle and dumbed-down dialogue as they can fit.",
"It looks like they're going to be covering quite a lot of ground again, so even watching the trailer isn't giving all that much away.",
"Rience!",
"I find many of the newer tvs add a dimension of too high definition and make it look like stage theatre. Try turning down your hrtz settings that usually helps.",
"Fargo season 6?",
"Why are u gae?",
"The instrumental, Rick Ross and Nicki's verses were what made that song. They just have the chorus with Kanye. I guess it could be worse. At least they didn't have Jay-Z's verse",
"Yes but I've to start from the beginning again, since it's been a while. I would rather re read any Sanderson book. Though I hear the quality of WoT went up after Sanderson took over. I'm actually listening to the Sandman audio books. They're excellent.",
"Who says I’m gae?",
"Well, fans love trailers for the tension and \"feel\" they give. \nWhy not having Kanye in Star-Wars? Oh or let's take Fast and the Furious and mix some polka songs over it. Or an 8 Mile remake, with death-metal in the trailer. \n\nI have the grim feeling, I'll cringe a few more times when watching witcher.\n\n(On the other side... they have some more PR now by beeing controversial. Why not fuck up the entire series like this? At least CDPR had loads of (negative) PR with the botched cyber punk launch)",
"Nice straw men. How did you even find this old thread?",
"I love the entire Witcher universe.\n\nLike probably most of you I started with the games, primarily the 3 parts. \nThen I read the phenomenal books, which I have in my collection as well as all the games.\n\nThe first Netflix series was highly anticipated by me and almost fully lived up to my hopes. Now I can't wait for the second season!!! \n\nThe icing on the cake is the latest project - Witchercoin, I can toss the Witcher coin myself as Jaskier sang.",
"I see you're into misplaced, generic pop-hip hop. You go, girl.",
"MBDTF is more than a decade old. It’s not trendy to pretend it’s bad anymore, y’all can chill.",
"I'm wonder here, do you think the cast was well chosen? \n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oEssj0Rtp4&t=2s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oEssj0Rtp4&t=2s)"
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"Season-episode ?",
"S4 E21 \"Drumhead\"",
"If memory serves, this is from the S04E21 episode \"[The Drumhead](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Drumhead).\"",
"Thanks 🙏",
"Thank you too!",
"All the do-gooders are trouble makers, “I’ll kindly help you up the tree so you don’t drown,” said the monkey to the fish. -Alan Watts",
"\"She, or someone like her...\" \\*cough\\*KaiWinn\\*cough\\*",
"BING BING BING Exactly.",
"The Drumhead is one of the best episodes in one of the best series around.\n\nI am still surprised this kind of story telling was on prime time broadcast tv. This episode will always be pertinent.",
"I've recently started watching the series for the first time since it originally aired. It's been a super fun trip down memory lane.",
"One of the best episodes of Star Trek TNG!",
"I've honestly remembered that line since I saw the show. I love that line.",
"The enemy of the United States will be draped in an American flag and carrying the Bible.",
"“Vigilance… that is the price we have to continually pay.” \n\nPreach brother.",
"And that price is eternal vigilance because Good and Evil are just the flip sides of the same coin ...\n\nN. Shadows",
"The quote I’m finding truer by the day is “you either die the hero or live long enough to become the villain”.",
"Winn was the fucking perrrrfect villain. Louise Fletcher, some of the best casting I've ever seen.",
"this is perfect for the modern day.",
"Like Picard.\n\nIf the show does end like that, at least it would be meaningful.",
"so weird, I'm rewatching TNG yet again and I literally watched this episode today.",
"I've never really agreed with this quote. It's sounds edgy in a Batman sort of way- but it doesn't really hold water in real life.\n\nSure, many people who die are considered heroes... but then again we're able to still analyze them after their death and realize they weren't perfect. MLK was a serial adulterer and possibly worse (if some reports are to be believed). John Lennon abused women. Gandhi slept with many women outside his marriage and outside theirs- often with partners extremely young, and despite teaching the opposite. So death does not hide or solidify someone's legacy as \"hero\". It can still be tarnished later.\n\nSame is true for the other side. Hereos who live as heroes can die as heroes and never become villains at all. Dr. Salk who invented the Polio vaccine gave it away instead of patenting it and because of that Polio is nearly eradicated today because of his selflessness. He died of heart failure at age 80, living a pretty full life. \n\nIt's a quote that just makes less and less sense the more you think about it.",
"It's always fun when that happens. \n\nI watch MASH occasionally and it's fun when someone brings it up in a random conversation, right when I am in the middle of a re-watch.",
"hell nah, nice try. you're clearly a NPC in my matrix",
"Ha. I literally just started watching MASH yesterday",
"The ending was a bit meh. The part where she realizes that space Hitler was actually a bad guy was just silly.",
"You see, u/Penny_is_a_Bitch? YOU SEE?",
"The ending was very silly. But I don't think it's that she realized space Hitler was bad, rather, she always knew he was bad but he betrayed her at the last minute so she flipped sides again with 10 seconds on the clock. She was a self-serving opportunist to the end.",
"That comment section though... Phew!",
"Some of my favorites\n\n\"I have never subscribed to the theory that political power flows from the barrel of a gun\"\n\n\"There are times, sir, when men of good conscience cannot blindly follow orders\"\n\n\"'A matter of internal security...' The age old cry of the oppressor\"\n\n\"That's how it starts, but the road from legitimate suspicion to rampant paranoia is very much shorter than we think",
"Thank you. I thought this IMMEDIATELY.",
"Actors who embody characters that make you love to hate them are so talented.",
"Totally, republicans are just like democrats, they want the same thing for this country. /s",
"This is why I love TNG so much. It's a very wise show that allows ambiguity and complexity. The show is even smart enough to admit that it's own main characters are sometimes Mary Sue-ish in their perfection, self-righteousness and even arrogance. This episode, The Drumhead, shows their flaws and punctures their prissiness. Q's introduction of the crew to the Borg and the character arc of Lt. Barkley are other great examples.",
"You're doing good and almost there! Just drop the /s and you'll get it!",
"Woosh",
"You forgot data. The objective perfect being striving for imperfection",
"The more things change, the more they stay the same.",
"That's the joke",
"That's the joke",
"Bradley Whitford is one of those actors too.",
"I miss the old Star Trek",
"Yeah, this is boring. I'd much prefer the villain to say something bigoted in the first act so I know he's the bad guy.",
"Then watch Veggie Tales.",
"They can't hear it now, but the SJW/Cancel crowd could heed this lesson. \nMaybe one day they will be able to hear it. They can't now.",
"the drumhead, definitely one of my favourites, after evolution and tapestry.",
"I think the only reason it was was because it was syndicated. Remember, cable was still pretty new in the late 80s. TNG mostly aired on local stations without a network affiliation, iirc\n\nIf it had been greenlit by and constantly interfered with by a network, it probably wouldn't have been nearly the same.\n\nThe station that aired it in my market didn't technically put it in primetime, it aired at 7.",
"You anti SJWs need to learn this lesson even more",
"Understanding the [wabi-sabi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabi-sabi) of the human nature was the hardest thing for me.",
"Jack Gleeson playing Joffrey Baratheon comes to mind.",
"My favorite quote from the show. It rings very true.",
"If you watch this and end up really liking it, you should also check out 'Measure of a Man' (s2e9). Another great debate from Picard on morality.",
"What do SJWs have to do with Star Trek turning into an action series? Genuinely curious... I've never heard of any sort of controversy around 90s Star Trek.",
"A lot of Star Trek TNG and Deep Space Nine episodes are very timeless. Probably moreso with TNG since it weighed in more on moral dilemmas and lessons.",
"\\*Kirk kisses Uhuru\\*\n\nu/Career_Woman \"I WILL NEVER FORGIVE SJWs FOR RUINING TREK\"",
"I think there's a lesson for both of our groups to be learned. And more importantly, not to judge each other from the worst among us.",
"Huh?",
"Star Trek. That famously \"anti-SJW\" show hahaha.",
"And yet change is the only constant.",
"i just CANNOT WAIT until my kids are old enough to watch this together. so many good conversations will come from working through this together...",
"*insert \"are we the baddies?\" video here*",
"She should get every award ever. She was so good at making people hate her character.",
"I absolutely love the older Treks. TNG especially. They're so much better than any and all of the modern variations. \n\nThe funny, or maybe depressing side of this video though is that looking at the comments of this thread, people still don't get the point of what he's saying, instead using it to justify their hate of groups they dislike. \"Oh that's totally them, not me though\"",
"*\"When one has been angry for a very long time, one gets used to it. And it becomes comfortable, like... like old leather. And finally... becomes so familiar that one can't ever remember feeling any other way.\"*",
"And the speed of light!",
"All she did was channel her inner Ratched. Imelda Staunton tried with Umbridge and did very well.",
"If I remember it was on Saturday night at like 10:30 after the news or something where I lived. My dad and I would always watch it after the news.",
"Oof I’ve been rewatching it and as someone who speaks Korean/lives in Korea it’s definitely not aged well. The Korean doesn’t even become intelligible until season 8.",
"Understandable, as most of the extras were Chinese and Japanese from California. \n\nMy wife complains about Spanish shows on Netflix, too. I can't hear it, but apparently the guy who played Pablo Escobar in Narcos is Brazilian. She said his Colombian is awful.",
"I have childhood nostalgia of watching reruns of these with my dad back in the 1990s when I was little. As I've grown older, I've come to really appreciate Picard's logic and honest sensibilities.",
"Awww! Now kith!",
"Just decided to watch it. Her costume for most of the episode has a hangman's noose as a zipper pull. Also her transcriber's costume is reminiscent of cage/chain-link. The creeping accusations/McCarthyism is pretty great.",
"I mean, have you watched TOS? It's shoehorned social issues like every other episode. Show has Abraham Lincoln walk up to Uhura throw a racial slur at her so that she could challenge it.",
"A russian guy sitting next to a japanese guy sitting in front of a black woman, a middle aged white guy, a jewish guy with pointy ears, and a scottish guy. Every few minutes a female officer came to Kirk with something to sign. Kirk literally kills god in several episodes and a movie. You tell me that Roddenbury wasn't a liberal.",
"Some women have moustaches. This does not help.",
"And this is what allowed corporate astroturfers to take over grassroots activism.",
"Absolutly. If you really think 50% of the people you meet are villians conspiring to make people suffer. You are fucked up.\n\nEveryone thinks their way is whats best for the most amount of people. Republicans and democrats both want whats best for people, they just disagree on whats the best path foward.\n\nIf you cant see that, you lack empathy and are a bad person.",
"Are they, though? How do you know that?",
">Everyone thinks their way is whats best for the most amount of people.\n\nNot necessarily true - some ideologies and movements are pretty transparent that they want what is best for *their* people, everybody else be damned. Its relatively recent in human history that people have tried to universalize their ideas and values.",
"Thats an insanely tiny tiny fraction of people in modern western societies. Like I may have ran across 2 or 4 people like that my entire life. The vast majority of people just want whats best for everyone and think one policy over the other is better at achieving that.",
"If we're talking about America, we're all the baddies. Every single one of us. Not a politician or citizen out there is free from being complicit in how absolutely shit our country has become.",
"Best Star Trek captain and series.",
"I think it was FOX, Thursdays 8 pm for me. And x-files was right after it too.",
"Lol, if you really think that, you were never a trek fan to begin with. The show has always been about \"SJW's\", from the original series onwards.",
"Capt should have mentioned that she will also be orange 🍊 and male",
"The writing on this show didn’t deserve to be so good sometimes",
"Sadly those will have to be posthumous",
"Just because the modern writing is trash, doesn't mean they are more \"SJW\" than treks prior.\n\n>Even Avery Brooks has said multiple times him being black was basically irrelevant to the role but naw, these days you gotta have non-binary trill and overweight military officers and Spock's black sister\n\nThat was the whole point. In the future, him being black makes no difference because humanity has 'evolved' to beyond a point where race matters. It reminds me of the conversation they had with Rodenberry when Patrick Stewart was cast originally.\n\n\"A bald captain? Wouldn't they have a cure for baldness in the future?\"\n\n\"In the future they wouldn't care about baldness.\"\n\nAlso, there were a few episodes where Sisko being black (primarily the one where he's jumping back and forth as a black sci-fi writer in the 50s) was a main plot point. That one was pretty overt in its themes about racism.",
"Still is.",
"That's not the point, at all. The villain in this episode came draped in the Federation flag, carrying her own version of the Bible. I think the point is to always be skeptical of \"patriots\" with an axe to grind.",
"I agree. The villain in this episode came draped in the Federation flag, carrying her own version of the Bible. I think the point is to always be skeptical of \"patriots\" with an axe to grind.",
"You are ok :)",
"If only some public health officials had moustaches. Ask a Gen X'er why they have trust issues, they might point you to this episode.",
"Hasn’t shitting on America become mainstream on the left? So not sure how original your statement is. \n\nI believe that saying “America is the greatest country on Earth” is considered a “micro-aggression” now because it’s offensive to immigrants and foreigners.\n\nNews flash, most countries on Earth are shit and have dark histories.",
"My dumb ass spent way to long trying to understand why J'Dan would be speaking bad Korean.",
"\"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.\"",
"Oh, well, I guess we should never take any sides , then, cause the side your'e on maybe evil and you don;t know it. No, I don;t think thats the lesson of the episode. I;m sticking with my interpretation. It sounds like you might be making up excuses for some terrible beliefs.\n\nEdit: Seems I was correct. User deleted their account. Lol.",
"I don't get how shows like TNG and DS9 could be made 30 years ago with excellent nuanced writing but today we've got Discovery and Picard which are practically cartoons for adults.",
"♬ Oh say can you see a snowflake in sight,♫",
"> liberal in the 1960's sure.\n\nWell yeah, that's the point. You expecting a show that was made in the 60s to be \"liberal\" for any other decade?\n\n>Right now he's spinning in his grave at 10,000 RPM\n\nI really doubt that. Rodenberry was also responsible for a lot of the early episodes of TNG, and those are some of the most 'preachy' of the show. After he stood back, the writers became much better at making their messages more subtle (usually, there are some obvious exceptions to this). Roddenberry was just a liberal person, not specifically the 60s, but in general. Some people are able to change with the times.",
"Aye, she thought she could become the one with power",
"And the actress utterly kills the role. She’s haunting in how she builds it up.",
"For those interested in more background:\n\nJeri Taylor wrote the script based on a story idea Ronald D. Moore had proposed called \"It Can't Happen Here.\" Taylor's aim was to show that witch-hunts, along the lines of US Senator Joseph McCarthy's Communist hearings and the Salem witch trials, could happen even in the enlightened 24th century if individual liberties and freedoms were breached, even if only slightly, in the name of preserving the Federation. She remarked, \"It's a very provocative story and one which is a little darker than some of the others.\" (Captains' Logs: The Unauthorized Complete Trek Voyages, pp. 219-220)\n\nhttps://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Drumhead_(episode)\n\n\nThat Picard/Worf scene is one of my favorite bits of dialog in the entire franchise. Star Trek and TNG often asked big questions of Jeffersonian ideals (which Picard’s words on vigilance derive from). This episode was one of the best of them.",
"The bizarre thing is that this sentiment was still a comment about religion, at the time.",
"It's about appeals to authority. Those with authority can more easily twist people into a weapon for evil. Authority is a combination of power exerted and legitimacy. The more power exerted to maintain authority the less legitimate that authority is. \n\n\nDeadly squid was merely pointing out what is generally seen as authority in the US. So yes it does fit. But that is also not to say that there are those with different ideologies that pull the same trick. However we are currently experiencing the ghost of McCarthyism where those who like to point fingers label everything they don't like communism/socialism regardless of whether it applies or not.",
"Good eye on those details!",
"This rings so true",
"Strawman",
"Literally nobody thought fuckface was a good guy. They just chose him because he loudly tells them he hates the same thing they do.",
"If republicans didn't want people to wear masks, based on some misinformation, when not wearing masks resulted in unnecessary deaths, they do not want what's best for the people. \n\nWhen republicans spread vaccine misinformation, encouraging people to not take the vaccine, resulting in unnecessary deaths, they do not want what's best for the people. \n\nWhen republicans want to illegalize abortion, because they have a superstitious belief that all pregnancies are ordained by god, ignoring that pregnancies far too often go wrong, even in the late phase, placing the health of the woman at risk, to say nothing of the fact that they want to allow a woman's DNA to be hijacked through rape, they do not want what's best for the people. \n\nWhen republicans only support top-down, trickle-down economics, supporting only the rich, and refusing to acknowledge the reality that wealth is generated from the bottom-up, and it behooves us to support the lower and middle-classes as much as possible, they do not want what's best for the people.",
"Christians and their cult leaders could learn a thing or 2 from this lesson.",
"Well then we should probably round up and kill these people whos soul desire is to be evil and cause harm to as many people as possible.\n\nIf I honestly believed I lived in a society like that I would take some violent action. Not just be a piece of shit coward and complain about it online.",
"You're betraying your own attitude. I simply pointed out the harm they are intentionally inflicting on us. All I want is to eliminate the harm they cause. That does not preclude violent action. Sounds like you're the one who's itching to use their guns.",
"> If you really think 50% of the people you meet are villians conspiring to make people suffer. You are fucked up.",
"But that IS what they do. They conspire to make women suffer. They conspire to make immigrants suffer. They conspire to make the poor suffer. They vote in their co conspirators to achieve their goals. Prove t me that this isn;t the case, or quit repeating your worthless platitude.",
"If you truly believe that. If you think there are millions of people conspiring to do evil deeds. You are a piece of shit coward for doing nothing about it. If I believed that, I would be going to war against those people. Not just complaining online.\n\nCoward.",
"I do believe that, but I believe in voting to fight back, unlike some people, who believe their elections are being \"stolen\".\n\nYou're the coward who sounds like you're just looking for a reason to use your guns. Why don;t you man up and defend the things I;m talking about, since they don;t mean any harm?",
"because Im not a fucking idiot. I dont believe most people are evil. I know most people believe what they are doing is what they think is best for themselves,their families, their community and the nation. 99% of people are good and just doing what they think is best for everyone \n\nIf you really think 50% of the people you meet are villians conspiring to make people suffer. You are fucked up.\"",
"You can;t seriously believe that the cruelty to women and immigrants that visit and wish to visit on others, that they seriously cant believe it is best for everyone. It sounds like you harbor the same beliefs. \n\nDefend their cruelty, right now. \n\nA harlequin baby is born, lives 7 agonizing minutes knowing nothing but pain, and dies.\n\nA woman encounters a complication late in her pregnancy, is forced to carry it to term, and dies in child birth.\n\nThese aren;t hypotheticals. this is the reality under conservative rule.\n\nStand there and defend that cruelty now."
] | 117 |
videos
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More life lessons from TV - Star Trek: TNG (1991) - "Mister Worf, villains who twirl their moustaches are easy to spot. Those who clothe themselves in good deeds are well camouflaged."
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https://youtu.be/TJFVV2L8GKs
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/r/videos/comments/qidg22/the_witcher_season_2_official_trailer/
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[
"Trailer looked great. Music didn't fit.",
"Yeah, the music was an odd choice. It felt like they were going for more marvel superhero vibe. I guess it is fine for a trailer, but it wouldn't have been my first choice.",
"“What song has the word Monster we can play off of?”\n\n“Yeezy?”\n\n“Perfect.”"
] | 3 |
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The Witcher Season 2 Official Trailer
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https://youtu.be/wiEyNHRsdwY
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/r/videos/comments/qidhek/diddid_i_just_find_porn_on_youtube/
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[
"Me thinks yes. She probably makes more money than only fans. POV is the best...",
"Just look up “naked yoga” on YouTube. Much worse",
"Tell me you want others to notice your amazing tits without saying you want others to notice your amazing tits.",
"Sex sells even on YouTube.",
"You tell me.....https://youtu.be/1yFolkxtUIY\n\nhttps://youtu.be/Ju9FQ59KYIU\n\nLol",
"Ok so the only thing I can deduce here is that the only people watching this must be kids who’s parents have site restrictions set up and this is the closest thing they can find to porn.",
"Down blouse is the fucking best.",
"You could put full on soft core porn on YouTube. As long as there aren’t any actual sex acts, teaches you a *little bit* about something mundane and is marked as educational.\n\nI’ve seen naked yoga, cleaning house in revealing clothing, cooking that involves a lot of bending over in belts posing as skirts…the list goes on.",
"\"I'm not doing this on purpose you pervert !\"",
"I think it's funny that women have been fighting for more than 50 years to be seen as more than just sexual objects.... and then social media comes along and they make themselves into sexual objects",
"/r/youtubetitties",
"Or naked skydiving... *shudder*",
"We are all our own worst enemy",
"Eh idk. Might look good in the bra. Might hang like pancakes without. Her face makes me think its the second.",
"They're still better than my tits, because I don't have tits.",
"Lol lookup joi",
"wow... did i just went back to the 1700's, porn really? oh no I can see see cleavage... somebody think of the children, gtfo you prude mf."
] | 17 |
videos
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Did...did I just find porn on YouTube?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87BrqcW5IAA
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/r/videos/comments/qidqsv/first_eminem_song_ever/
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[
"As it turns out, he's pretty good at that rap stuff",
"that kid is going places",
"That shirt is dope",
"Intense and sounds like eminem and the song sounds nice. There are thousand other songs out there that sound nice and like eminem but are not eminem. Doesn't matter. Nice song anyway.",
"So old school i love it",
"The song is called Biterphobia and was released on cassete by a group called \"Soul Intent\", which Eminem was part of. Written and performed all by Eminem himself\n\nhttps://genius.com/Soul-intent-biterphobia-lyrics",
"Yup, that's late 80's rap. Most people's reference from this period would be DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince. Mathers is a few years younger than them but they were getting the same influences.",
"damn. this need to be on my workout playlist. good shit.",
"I still think my favorite song is Infinite.\n\nIf you like old Em but maybe aren't a superfan go check it out.",
"Song is called Biterphobia. \n\nIf the beat sounds familiar, it’s sampled from [Jesus Christ Superstar (1977)](https://youtu.be/pqoeM18vCaU) .",
"Kanye West",
"The next best thing, just might be!",
"That's not quite him! But still easy.",
"If you playback at \\~1.5x speed it's significantly better",
"Very Beastie Boys-ish...",
"definitely feel a Run-DMC vibe",
"His singing is ok... the music made my ears bleed though to much record scratching.",
"Lol.",
"Thats too much. 1.25x sounds like that sweet spot.",
"Lord help us, he’s back in his pink Alf shirt! Lookin like someone shrinked his outfit",
"Looks like Linus",
"You had one job OP",
"Screw the song, I want that shirt!",
"Started with this song, made my way to infinite...now I’m watching 8mile.",
"Fuck that, the scratching was cold af.",
"\"Mommy's Spaghettio's\"",
"I think Biterphobia is a super underrated song... The production on it is great!",
"I wanted it but couldn't find it so I made it: https://www.poundtowntx.com/p/novelty-tees.html",
"Sounds like A.D.O.R. but faster",
"No pink option like the shirt in the picture",
"Anyone know why this recording has a constant high pitch (around 12k) tone? Artifact from transferring a casette tape to digital or something like that?",
"Yo, that ain't rap. That's hip hop bby",
"Except that was MC MM, not Eminem.",
"u rite",
"Video description says \"first official song by Slim Shady\"- more accurate, or?",
"Yeah that shit was killing me I hear it too",
"Pharaoh Monch fan, I would say. Sounds pretty cool\n\nBeat kinda reminds me of Organised Konfusion",
"Yep cassette artifacts",
"He has said his favorite rapper was LL Cool J, you can hear the strong influence during his early days.",
"I mean, the rap is the words. In 1986 mainstream if there was rapping it was rap music.",
"FUCK it. 125x speed.",
"It's 8k and it could be caused by plenty of things - some kind of issue with whatever late 80s recorder he was using, dirty power, unshielded components, etc",
"I actually like the flow better at 0.75 speed.",
"sounds like logic lol gross",
"Eminem, but every time he rhymes, the speed doubles.",
"Biterphobia isn't the first recorded song by EM, but probably the first song he recorded that was really good. There are a handful of songs he recorded prior to this when he was super young that were cool to hear but he didn't really know how to rap yet. -",
"That's just how rap was in those days. If you grew up with it you get it, I guess.",
"I can't tell if you are joking or not. If you are not and just don't know, this is absolutely real, it is just from 1995. Biterphobia is one of my favorites."
] | 48 |
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First Eminem song ever
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https://youtu.be/E837tnxRVS0
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/r/videos/comments/qie40w/why_do_americans_ask_inappropriate_questions_in/
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[
"Well done...LOL",
"I miss these. Such a great little series.\n\nIn the US most people would consider asking that pretty rude.",
"Just gonna go through and keep posting videos from this youtube channel, aren't you?",
"I think it's a class thing, too. I've had people ask detailed questions about my wealth/expenses (\"How much did you spend on college?\") but those questions have always come from people on the bottom rungs, just scraping by.",
"I’ve never in my life asked or been asked how much I make by anyone outside of job interviews. It’s really not a thing in the US - I’m fact it’s quite the opposite:\n\nhttps://www.quora.com/Why-is-it-so-taboo-in-the-US-to-ask-someones-salary-How-does-this-differ-from-other-countries-and-could-more-wage-transparency-be-a-good-thing",
"Love David Mitchell but no, it is definitely taboo to ask how much money someone makes in America.",
"Op is horny for their fake internet points.",
"> how bad of a misread this rant is.\n\nevery one of his soapboxes I've seen was a big misread.",
"It’s still an inappropriate question, though.",
"That didn't happen, David. Stop being a twat.",
"I agree that it’s a good practice when talking with coworkers, but you should never ask anyone else. Hell I even once got someone a raise that had been at the company longer than I had just by telling him what they offered me when I started.",
"On the same page... 'How much did that set you back?' \nI've never been on the receiving end of that question :( but i have been uncomfortable for that person hearing it asked.",
"This never happens in the US. I love David Mitchell, but this one is way off.",
"The one on American saying\"could care less\" can't really be argued with - it's a linguistic crime",
"This does happen. Has happened to me more than once. Mainly to minorities or anyone who seems foreign. The majority loves to make sure the help isn't being overpaid.",
"It would make for a fairer society if everyone's income history was accessible from a public database but anonymized. Basically you could know what each employer is paying for each position they hire for. This could allow you to estimate the income of any person if you know what they do and who they work for, but you can probably do that already anyway.",
"Seems like the dry wit was the Americans in the end.\n\nDidn’t laugh once, but was entertained.",
"Not a uniqely-American crime, though.",
"Yeah yeah, but seriously how much do you think David Mitchell makes?",
"I’ve never had anyone ask me that, ever",
"I've been asked numerous times by all kinds of people including strangers."
] | 20 |
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Why do Americans ask inappropriate questions in small talk?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM1rvwIafSs
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/r/videos/comments/qie903/we_have_to_go_back_to_the_office_scream_parody/
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[
"Yep.\n\nPretty much how it's going.",
"Honestly, if the position can be WFH it should be. Nobody should be commuting to an office if you can do the work at home just as effectively. What a waste of time, money, and resources. We've gotten back 3+ hours of our day and $400/m in fuel savings. We won't be going back to the office under any circumstances; it's not worth the loss of time and money.",
"Honestly. Why are they doing this? Right now it's \"encouraged\" for us to come in 2 days a week, but we all know what is coming.",
"The guy should of been like \"alright. :shrug: Well, I quit.\"",
"Threatened to quit. Got a whole remote team. Livin the dream baby",
"Canadian comedy at it's finest: using a 25 year old pop culture reference",
"Yeah, but what are the senior-level assholes with no lives outside the office going to do with themselves then?",
"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11245972/",
"They don't want to give up the extra power they have over you in the office space. There are plenty of ways WFH positions save company's money without losing productivity, but they're actually willing to sacrifice money for that power.",
"Hard to think of covid having an upside but working from home has great benefits my daughter quit her job got a better one because they wouldn't let her continue .I raised a smart girl she has a y year old no stress now.",
"Fucking suits man. \"We can't wait to see everyone again\"\n\nI sure as fuck don't wanna see you."
] | 11 |
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We have to go back to the office (SCREAM PARODY)
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=mQtJKLHN4hk&feature=share
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/r/videos/comments/qied0d/the_witcher_season_2_official_trailer_2021/
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[
"What’s up with that trailer music? Doesn’t fit at all. \n\nLooking forward to season 2 though. I liked the first one.",
"I don't know why my girlfriend has to use the bathroom every time Henry Cavill enters a scene, but it gives me more time to beat my meat, so its ok.",
"[Wow this channel was quick on ripping the trailer from Netflix's Youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJFVV2L8GKs)",
"God Henry Cavill would make a great Arthas",
"Yeah I don't give a shit about people stealing trailers from Netflix.",
"Hey let's use this Kanye song because it says Monster a lot!\n\nOh wait, it's chock full of expletives we can't use that, should we pick something different?\n\nNaw just censor the crap out of it I'm sure no one will notice!",
"Worst possible song choice.\n\n\"Okay gang, time to market the Witcher season 2, which I'll remind you is a gritty story about a mutant monster hunter trying to save a powerful magical girl that's basically his adopted daughter and it'll be rife with political intrigue, drama, and fighting. The trailer is shaping up nicely, we just need to get some good music to pump up the fans.\"\n\n\"How about some shitty rap song? Kids like rap songs.\"\n\n\"Somebody get this man a promotion and a blow job! Pack it up people, we're done here. Kanye West fits the tone perfectly!\""
] | 7 |
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THE WITCHER Season 2 (Official Trailer 2021)
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https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qif4v3/deleted_by_user/
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/r/videos/comments/qif4v3/deleted_by_user/
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[
"All of that nonsense for one fucking tiny candy bar? Expect that thing to be destroyed by the end of the night.",
"That’s really cool!! \n\nLast year a woman made a slide off her porch for candy so the trick or treaters didn’t have to come up on the porch. We thought that was pretty cool. This is much cooler!",
"I laughed way too hard at this",
"Dude I go to Walmart with 100 bucks and buy as much bulk as I can, then fill a 35 gallon tub with it. \n\nKids with big bags get two double-fist fulls. Kids with the smaller bags can take as much as they want.\n\n I have never had a single year where there wasn't candy left over.",
"Spends $100 on a candy dispensing machine and $10 on candy",
"Build? Kids don't care about what's giving them candy, just how much they're getting. \n\nSure, your shit is whimsical, but it would be so much cooler if it had a flood of candy come out of the tube.",
"Very cool! I just don’t think it’s a good idea for multiple kids (not old enough for the vaccine) to be touching the same lever in between eating candy and wiping their noses..."
] | 7 |
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[deleted by user]
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https://youtu.be/dpmXyJrs7iU
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/r/videos/comments/qifmi8/meteor_hits_russia_2013/
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[
"My favorite video from this event: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Djzl5238I",
"Why do meteors hate Russia so much? (Aside from it being a big country with lots of dash cams)",
"Is there a picture of the crater?",
"Theres an article including a picture of a small part of the meteor itself. \n\nhttps://www.space.com/33623-chelyabinsk-meteor-wake-up-call-for-earth.html",
"Exploded in the air and left over parts went into a lake and surrounding area.",
"Why do meteors only come in at a 45° angle?",
"Jesus, I didn't know it SOUNDED like that. No wonder a lot of people were claiming it was an attack by the US. Thats some scary shit :O.",
"Otherwise it just doesn't feel right.",
"Doesn’t make sense though if we’re floating in space."
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Meteor hits Russia, 2013
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn1rsvwkQLc
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/r/videos/comments/qifoxj/anonymous_agony_an_extra_edgy_adventure_game/
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[
"this video is so cringe. i can safely say this is the first mandalore video i couldn't finish all the way",
"I was not ready for the JCS crossover.",
"YE YE",
"I'm planning on doing it in pieces with no one else home. My wife came home and I turned it off faster than I would a hentai vid lol",
"FILTERED"
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Anonymous Agony: An Extra Edgy Adventure Game
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksVk7fIA_us
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/r/videos/comments/qig5dl/my_sister_made_me_edit_her_pregnancy_announcement/
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[
"11/10",
"I would say one point deduction for not using the belly button as the center of the pokeball, 9/10.",
"You don’t understand art, and maths 11/10 minus one would be 1/10",
"That might be the worst thing I’ve ever watched. You should all be ashamed that so many people were involved and nobody put an end to this.\n\nIt will haunt me for years.",
"Cursed.",
"Was that a wild Rockruff or Growlithe in the background at 0:44?",
"You know... most people just post a picture of some kind of baby item and say \"coming ____ whenever\".\n\nBut no... you had to make.... this.\n\nYou need to take a long look at the decisions you all have made",
"This belongs in a museum.",
"Me-oath.",
"Thanks, I hate it",
"I’ve never hated myself for liking something this much before and I like pineapple on pizza",
"This was so fucking good please keep it up and congrats to your sister!",
"Tina you fat lard!",
"That's gonna be one silly baby! Congrats!"
] | 14 |
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my sister made me edit her pregnancy announcement video
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXZoO-FjJyQ
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/r/videos/comments/qigjyu/the_hypocrisy_of_bailouts_with_jon_stewart/
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[
"You guys need him as president. If trump could win, surely Jon could.\nI believe in Jon",
"Huh... If he's arguing against government bailouts. I'm with him 100%.",
"He was spitting fire at Janet Yellen yesterday. My first thought was those were some real good questions followed by 'I wonder if people will continue to go on his show if he throws down that hard'.",
"That's what he did in most of his political interviews on the Daily Show.",
"Not to that extent. When he started saying \"Give me the names, who is stopping this from happening\" I couldn't think of a time where he pushed that hard. I have a feeling his time working to get the first responders healthcare has something to do with the more upfront bullshit calling out, and that he knows that when someone uses a collection of people to spread the blame you need to name-and-shame. Or maybe the new platform, or maybe just because when you get older you are less and less patient for this bullshit.\n\nOr maybe you are right and I don't remember the old daily show interviews as well.",
"Could you imagine‽ A fair, honest, and intelligent man becoming president? Ahh, fairy tales.",
"I think it is less about government bailouts but more of the hypocrisy of saying giving socialist benefits to the worker class is socialism but giving socialist benefits to corporations isn't.\n\nKind of an \"It's bad when it's for the poor because they're poor, but it's good when it's for the rich because they're rich\".",
"Trump won because his base is easily brainwashed into believing his bullshit. There is no way a decent man like Jon would even come close to being elected.",
"Two different problems. One is corruption the other is relative poverty. We have known for a long time throwing money at poverty isn’t a social solution. Study after study has failed. Corruption on the other hand is rampant and unchecked. Making people more dependent on the government just leads to more corruption. \n\nWages don’t increase because the government says so. Your wage increase when you become more valuable or a resource is scarce. You cannot falsely increase your own worth. Sadly through mechanisms of fear and regulation they limit workers, growth and entrepreneurs. \n\nIf you want to see what socialism is like move to New York City. The elites next to social housing. 1st Ave and 93rd is a fencing school across front the projects. The best of food or entertainment but the streets are filled with trash. People are afraid to move though they are paying $2,000 a month for a 1 bedroom apartment. The city spends the most on social programs and public schools. They have the worst outcomes. If it wasn’t built on an endless supply of money it would implode. \n\nThe only thing I know is the government doesn’t need more money. Taxing the rich does not mean you get more money. Taxing the rich mean other rich people get richer. \n\nLimiting the government, preventing corruption and protecting workers is the solution. Founding fathers had it right. Limited central government with independent states and a bill of rights.",
"I wouldnt wish that job on him.",
"I remember jon stewart talking to the senate about the first responders during 9/11.. they all agreed they were heroes but still voted to give them fuck all in compensation as they died of inhaling shitty substances while saving lives. Politicians can suck a duck they arent human and have no morals, just a bunch of nodding dogs when it suits them.",
"I would rather celebrities not be president. We need to erode that precedent. U.S. has a big enough problem with celebrity worship already.",
"I think about that very often. A president's job is not to be the smartest, most experienced politician alive. It's not to be a smooth talking hardened veteran of politics that can name every major policy in the last 100 years. \n\nThe President's job is to surround himself with carefully picked legitimate experts, and provide the vision and direction to the executive branch. They need to be expert judges of character.\n\nI honestly think someone like John could do it extremely well, but the same values that make him who he is, would likely make him not want it.",
"Yeah, let the man rest. He has done so much already.",
"He'd be shot by that woman with the rifle.",
"i think to make this point he needed the same conservatives arguing for corporate bailouts. if they weren't calling for that in 2007 then they've been consistent on that point... for better or worse.",
"I kept it together until \n\n>\"As conservatives, all we want is a level playing field\" \n\n\nShe said from her astronomically uneven playing field. Some one just fucking kill me...",
"Biden \"won\" because he wasn't Trump. Let that sink in.",
"I agree with all of your points. It's likely a combination of it all. Especially not being patient for this bullshit anymore.\n\nHe skipped the entire Trump presidency. I couldn't imagine what's been going thru his head these past 5 years.",
"It's so good having him back.",
"[Yup, people in politics doing what people do.](https://youtu.be/MqkT4B-9MGk)",
"Glad he's back at it. Missed him.\n\n\"Socialism is bad! because then the free people will reap the benefits that us globalist corporations are using.\"",
"A level playing field *for rich white people.* Absolutely.",
"people will, but vapid shitlords will take a hard pass. I hadn't seen the show you referred to but looking for it now :D",
"You see all those guys going on with long demonstrations about this and that, while the US is actually one of the last 43 remaining countries without socialized healthcare, everyone else knows it works lol",
"I'd disagree strongly.\n\nThe interview felt shallow at times and Jon came across as a bit self righteous.\n\nFor example, Jon was arguing that the government was essentially subsidizing large firms, since low wage workers often receive additional assistance from welfare and foodstamps. The argument being that firms like Walmart should pay higher wages so that their employees no longer need to rely on government assistance.\n\nJon frames these welfare programs as the government \"bailing out\" large firms by subsidizing their employee wages.\n\nIt's a compelling argument on the surface, but that framing ties together two separate issues that aren't as tightly coupled (wages vs government services). It's not as though cutting welfare benefits will compel firms to pick up the difference. If we take Jon's framework to the extreme, literally any government program is a bail out for employers.\n\nYellen tries to push back gently, saying\n\n> The government, in many cases, should be running programs. It's not necessarily the case that Walmart should do that directly.\n\nBut Jon turns it around, accusing Yellen, saying that \n\n> You would rather they still make their billions in profit, but as long as they pay us taxes so that we have enough to give their workers food stamps, that's OK.\n\nAs a counterexample, you could use the same framing to argue against single payer health care. Why should the government subsidize firms by paying for their employees' healthcare, when they should be paying for it themselves?\n\nThe interview frames Yellen as some corporate shill, when anyone who knows her career knows that couldn't be further from the case. Throughout her career, Yellen's always pushed for stronger unions, higher minimum wages, higher corporate and income taxes, etc.",
"A subreddit that doesn't allow politics? Color me surprised.",
"I think his breadth of experience in politics and being a vice president in particular helped things out as well. The guy is also charming which also helps."
] | 29 |
videos
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The Hypocrisy of Bailouts with Jon Stewart
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https://youtu.be/zw79RVnlCb0
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/r/videos/comments/qigqzc/hellraiser_30th_anniversary_edition_official/
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[
"Hm, wonder if this version will be in San Andreas remastered...",
"\"Who would win in a wrestling match Lemmy or God? Lemmy? AAAh... God? Trick questions Dickhead Lemmy is God.\"",
"I miss Lemmy."
] | 3 |
videos
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Hellraiser (30th Anniversary Edition - Official Animated Video)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymNFyxvIdaM
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/r/videos/comments/qih2f3/bomfunk_mcs_freestyler_video_original_version_do/
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[
"oh yea. my good old days of music, not this modern remastered old music",
"Memories of old school MTV.. was one of my favs back then",
"I remember..",
"Top of my dome",
"Rock the rock the rock the microphone",
"Brings me back to the Bam Margera movie Haggard.",
"They remade the music video in 2019: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5tv9zXgG2Q",
"The first CD I ever bought was this song.",
"Yes.",
"bleached my tips to this back in the day",
"Yes. This was really something else when it came out. I listened to it so much that I couldn't listen to it anymore. Everyone i knew loved it and that were people who liten to different genres normally.",
"Yeeeaahh",
"I remember wanting to copy that kid's messy dread hairstyle when I was in junior high. My mum didn't let me. I now look back and appreciate that I dodged that blunder.",
"For some reason, I expected [Tha Freestylers. ](https://youtu.be/_fopsRtC-M4)",
"Yes, I remember. This used to be my ringtone.",
"Cheeeeese string, from the top of my dome"
] | 16 |
videos
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Bomfunk MC's - Freestyler (Video Original Version). Do you remember ?
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https://youtu.be/8uhlDTb_XJA
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/r/videos/comments/qih67p/la_palma_volcano_roars_again_october_29_2021/
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[
"Imagine being some tribe pre-ad. Minding your own business at the base of a hill. Then all of the sudden you look up and see hell opening up before you.",
"I've never really thought about what an active volcano *sounds* like.\n\nTurns out the sound is terrifying too.",
"Thats fuel for religious beliefs. It would be mind-boggling for them and the only reasonable explanation at that time would be that it was something God like that had created it. Its interesting though that religion sticks around for so long through generations even now that we have scientific explanation of almost everything.",
"Well, that's how volcanoes got their name, the word Volcano is derived from the name for the island of Vulcano, home to the Roman god Vulcan who according to legend lived in the crater of the volcano. The volcano erupted sparks from his blacksmith forge.",
"What is it about the way this was filmed that makes it seem so fake and green-screened? I don't think it was, too many details indicate otherwise, the sound is pretty convincing, but the guy just looks pasted into the foreground. Something about the lighting is giving him a white outline? Is that why?",
"It's my friend in the video, he's a professor of geology, used to teach ingenious petrology at Trinity College Dublin. Here's the video he uploaded just before this one...\n\nhttps://youtu.be/bbHMrzWIsZI?t=46\n\nHe's a member of a project that studies the volcanos of the Canary Islands.\n\nThis is a video of him on the roof of a partly collapsed house...\n\nhttps://youtu.be/kVZuaxGmrI4",
"Yeah I wasn't saying it was fake, I was saying that it *looks* greenscreened. The lighting gives him a bit of an outline maybe, not sure if that's what it is, but it looks really greenscreened at some moments in the clip."
] | 7 |
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La Palma Volcano Roars again, October 29, 2021 - Report from the inner exclusions zone close to the volcano
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https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qihjqa/deleted_by_user/
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/r/videos/comments/qihjqa/deleted_by_user/
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[
"I thought it was more of a 4chan thing",
"Gotta do the cooking by the book, you know you can't be lazy\n\nYEAH BITCH!",
"So then... why did you answer in certainty haha",
"He just said 4chan was around in 2005",
"4chan est. 2003\n\nReddit est. 2005\n\nYou arent saying the VIDEO started on reddit.. only that when reddit started, this video became popular here? He is stating that no it was more of a 4chan thing. I guess im not getting your point.",
"4chan predates not only the video but Lazy Town itself. It was created in 2003.",
"I wonder if the girl in the video has seen this. I imagine at this point she is at the very least 12 years older.",
"I am forced to admit, against all instincts to the contrary, that this is catchy.",
"AW SHIT. HERE WE GO AGAIN.........",
"STOP LYING TO YOURSELF, YOUR INSTINCTS YEARN FOR THIS",
"And it still makes me laugh",
"Well it is a bop",
"Yikes, imagine editing all your responses lmao",
"I'm not gonna lie, I used to play this song on repeat a lot. Especially in front of people that had no idea what the hell it was. There's something incredibly catchy and at the same time refreshingly disturbing about it.",
"I have friends who went to college with her. She’s in her 30s now.",
"God damn that takes me back.",
"We used to blast this in our uni residence 🥲",
"There was a time when you couldn't mute voice chat in Halo. Used to play this on loop.",
"RIP Stéfan Karl",
"Somebody is def new here",
"My mom's ex boyfriends aunts brother dated her in jr high. He said she actually couldn't bake worth a fuck.",
"Well she has to do the cooking by the book. I can't stress that enough.",
"People like you are the reason I almost always mute anybody with a mic in a multiplayer game.",
"Also this is from 9 years ago and Reddit was founded in 2005. When videos got popular it was mostly music videos on YouTube.",
"She fought with my grandfather in the war.",
"lmao [op is a bundle of sticks](https://i.imgur.com/FJtCHeP.png)",
"Which of them won?",
"Wow, yeah this is one of the first posts I remember sharing with friends. Shit I missed my 10 year cake day!",
"”It’s a piece of cake to bake a pretty cake” \n”What?” \n”You gotta do the cooking by the book” \n”WHAT?” \n\nLOL'ed",
"Ok",
"i snipped the wire on my cheap headset so it was just the plug, i would plug that in to mute everyone.",
"That’s fair was it on YTMND?",
"ok",
"Did you happen to look at the picture he included?",
"Witch hunting is when you go after people with no evidence or proof....",
"I was waiting for the twist ahaha",
"What is that, a picture for ants?",
"But she could fuck worth a bake, rumor has it.",
"Either way, OP is incorrect about this being a witch hunt.",
"jesus what a newfriend\n\nbet he can't even triforce",
"...reddit isnt this young",
"Teal vs Orangered?",
"Lazy town has dope music",
"She probably gets sent it 20 times a day",
"I first heard this after a match of gun game on a CS Source server. My 12 year old ass laughed for hours.",
"Jeez you guys are obsessed with OP",
"Fuck beans I forgot all about this gem. Thank you. Time to educate the youth of better times. When the internet was so damn serious.",
"She's Albert Einstein",
"The other one in a similar vein that gets me every time is [reading rainbow with DMX](https://youtu.be/OchyYnlHTdo)",
"Those damned teal bastards are ruining this site. Orangereds have worked too hard and deserve more.",
"It still slaps.",
"You pointy-nippled fucks.",
"Lol newfriend... I haven't heard that before. Also I never cared to learn triforce, I bring shame to my family.",
"Still an absolute banger.",
"Lmaooooo",
"I was in a WoW guild at the time called Lazy Town… man that was a long time ago.",
"But she did know how to back that ass up",
"Trolling is a art",
"[She seems to be embracing it](https://youtu.be/ZnKisUYjL3Q)",
"That one kid retarded af",
"I'll have you know that we were *periwinkle*. Better dead than orangered!",
"You're my hero",
"ok",
"Was also popular on YTMND",
"Dude seriously! It sucks too because I wouldn't mind being social or trying to help with call outs but there's always some asshole blasting shitty music or having a full on conversation with someone in the room with them.",
"Nothing but truths here. The show put out bangers and was honestly a great show for what it was.",
"ok",
"What extension are you using to view the original comment?",
"This video was the best video when Reddit started\n\nhttps://youtu.be/5vRlJrkxsqo",
"OP, stop lying. I remember when this meme first gained popularity, and it was nowhere close to when Reddit \"first started\", only before it was in the hands of toddlers like you.",
"This is, by many standards, a really shitty mashup",
"The video linked is stolen look at the top comment for the link to the original video. Block this asshole's channel.",
"[WHAT!? OKAY!! Ten years ago we created the Lazy Town/Lil Jon Mashup. Ask us anything.](https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/9ki58r/what_okay_ten_years_ago_we_created_the_lazy/)",
"Different girl. This was the replacement actress, I think.",
"Hahaha! Fuck you!",
"Yeah, 2012? I discovered Reddit in 2010 and it was already a ways along by then.",
"Pretty solid",
"Amen, brother. Get off our lawn, kiddies!",
"r/jailbait was also a subreddit.",
"OP doesn't know dates well. The two aren't even close.",
"Fuck that clapped so hard",
"How are you viewing those original comments?",
"Those fucking puppet’s dead eyes do not do it for me",
"Posting a link to her LinkedIn is both creepy and uncool.",
"Dude this is one of the best and most well executed mashups I've ever heard, brilliant!",
"Yeah, it took Reddit a long time to close its pedo subs.",
"I forgot this video existed",
"It still is... in my heart.",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATaHLcO1Cr8",
"Ok boomer",
"IT'S PERIWINKLE, YOU UNCULTURED SWINE.",
"Remember seeing the AMA during his battle incredibly sad all around",
"…Or screaming kids, or they’ve given the mic to someone else just to troll everyone, or the sensitivity is turned up so that you hear an echo of everything coming out of their tv, or they’re eating… yeesh.",
"Yeah, Reddit 'sold out' around this time in a literal way (2011-2012) and became much more about comments than good links.",
"https://www.tampermonkey.net/ -- this extension with\n\n\nhttps://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/407466-unedit-and-undelete-for-reddit -- this script",
"Stuck in my head for days again",
"https://www.tampermonkey.net/ -- this extension with\n\n\nhttps://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/407466-unedit-and-undelete-for-reddit -- this script",
"I had completely forgotten about those lol",
"Where I first saw this.",
"Ok hands up who came here from digg? Lol",
"Yeah checks out, she was the replacement actress for when the show got renewed for season 3 in 2013. Pretty cool nevertheless",
"I still have that saved to my phone's and send it to people",
"Sounds like teal talk to me.",
"I'm really glad I kept watching instead of moving on. Well worth the time.",
"[Just a little bit](https://ultimatesuffering.ytmnd.com/)",
"I have probably heard every song from that show over the last 15 years and yet I could not tell you a single thing about the plot.",
"*sigh*",
"Swing and a fucking miss.",
"???"
] | 110 |
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[deleted by user]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-a9VDIbZCU
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/r/videos/comments/qihnvv/jamie_olivers_war_on_nuggets/
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[
"When will Jamie Oliver get a life and leave chicken nuggets alone?",
"i remember his school dinners show, charlie brooker ripped on it a bit iirc.",
"Jamie Oliver can suck my nuggz",
"Right after he leaves fried rice alone.",
"Those 'pink slime' videos always make me so surprised that they are more efficient. They are getting more chicken per chicken. \n\nI only wish **good** vegan chicken nugs were cheaper. Sorry chickens you are so tasty and tortured. but for some reason they are always more expensive.\n\nEdit To add: Jamie showing how shit American school lunch was the best thing he has done. American lunch food and prison's food actually allow shittier quality than would be legally allowed in stores. Feed our youth well everybody! They are the next generation!",
"that was a lot of time spend saying very little.",
"you think vegan chicken nuggets are expensive? I'm raising the chickens myself. Shits expensive you, but at least I have cute birds that I know are happy and live a good life.",
"the food at my high school gave me kidney stones. Kidney Stones build character. \n\n✋ \n\n 🎤",
"While I get the criticism that schools can't always afford Jamie's healthier menus, Jamie has [lobbied to increase school lunch funding in the UK](https://www.theguardian.com/education/2010/jul/08/jamie-oliver-school-meals), so it's not like he's completely ignoring that part of the issue.",
"Morning Star ones are pretty cheap and honestly aren't bad especially if you have a good sauce. Impossible are good but salty af. Gardein are alright but definitely not chicken. I'm not vegan but my wife is and she gets them probably once a month. I had some actual chicken ones a while back and really the fat content is the major difference but whatever I can live with that.\n\nI just wish people would pick one side of the fence. Either you should be about alternatives to animals even if it costs a bit more or you should be for using literally every single bit of an animal. Stuff like head cheese and hot dogs are great because otherwise that is just waste. It's crazy that anyone could support any waste when you see the insane environmental cost of things like cattle ranching.",
"Could also build, like, a really small wall if you had enough of them.",
">I only wish good vegan chicken nugs were cheaper. Sorry chickens you are so tasty and tortured. but for some reason they are always more expensive.\n\nKeep in mind that the meat industry gets subsidized to shit by the government. So if your tax dollars weren't artificially keeping those nugs cheaper then the prices of the two products would probably be closer together. The vegan nugs might even be less expensive.",
"I remember that video circulating the Internet years ago.\n\nIt was a somewhat comic point, a point that everyone got.\n\nAnd somehow, now...there's an ~18 min. video explaining the point that EVERYONE already got.\n\nThis is like explaining a joke in slowmotion...",
"Seriously you’d think people would like the idea of a product made from the scraps you normally can’t sell because they’re just remnants. Also for the people wigged out about the meat paste that makes up nuggets… have they never seen a sausage or hotdog before?",
"Drink more water!",
"I drank plenty of water and the time",
"I doubt that",
"Mad young to get kidney stones",
"Haiya…",
"This dude is spending a lot of time defending highly processed foods, and attacking someone promoting less processed foods. Youtuber wants to feel smart so bad he is making himself make a dumb argument.",
"It calls out bias and adds clarity to an often posted video and general sentiment. As a decent cook, I enjoyed it because I appreciate that listed cooking times on processed food are goddamn 50% of what they should be. Oven tacquitos for 10 mins? You better cook those fuckers for 15 mins.",
"It reeks of privilege that we should throw out these extra \"scraps\" instead utilizing them.",
"that's his life. He gets paid for it. millions. he's richer than gordon ramsey",
"These are the people telling us that chicken nuggets are junk food bu foie gras and Christmas pudding are awesome. So it's not about health, it's about class. Is it about hating on a cheap food that poor people can enjoy eating to make their lives a little less miserable. TV networks can't get enough of that shit.",
"Youtuber makes video about bad faith arguments and against simplifying a complex issue.\n\nCommenter makes bad faith arguments and simplifies a video, and completely missing the point.",
"Yeah, he also misses the point quite a few times. Like, you think it's easier for kids to understand how an industry exploits its workers or to show them firsthand what the basics of processed food means? \n\nI don't quite understand what the overall video is trying to say. How Jamie is a bit disingenuous when comparing the self-made and bought stuff? Give me a break, the guy just wants to promote healthier eating and for parents to rely less on the fast food stuff just because it's convenient.",
"I agree with everything this guy says, but I also think Jamie Oliver is coming from a good place where he doesn’t want kids to eat trash as a staple. \n\nIt has always bothered me that getting all the extra meat (and other parts) off the chicken is praised if it’s something ‘fancy’ and not if it’s something basic. Most fancy foods like offal, sweetbreads or pâté or others have started off as commoner food and ended up as things you get in fine dining. Jamie doesn’t campaign against them on the same grounds. Same with stock. He has great recipes for stock.",
"But that's not really the point, this isn't about nose to tail dining, this is about feeding highly processed, low quality and unhealthy chicken nuggets to kids. I know every time someone posts this on reddit people make the point that it's *really* just being more efficient with using chicken... but it's not. It's about lowering costs, saving money and children's health is suffering, especially when these companies win school lunch contracts and feed abominations like turkey twizzlers to children.",
"Those scraps go into chicken stock, nobody's advocating for throwing it away.",
"Lol, sure thing pal",
"Not enough apparently.",
"And it worked. They increased the budget per meal to **at least** 50p (adjusted for inflation, that's still <$1 today). It was as low as 37p at the time of making this special.\n\nI still think there's a really convincing argument that it's classist... but I also think it might just be egoism. Jamie has 2 kids and is a professional chef. I doubt he likes the idea of children that will only want to eat from the \"kids menu\".\n\nAlso, there was a significant rise in \"chicken goujons\" since 2005. All breast meat, fancier than nuggets. And less processed (but the breading is still a major source of ingredients).",
"> Give me a break, the guy just wants to promote healthier eating\n\nYou missed a major point of this video: chicken nuggets are not \"less healthy\" than fried chicken strips. Jamie is promoting eating *fresher*, but ignoring the fact that eating fresher takes a lot more time (shopping more frequently, more prep time, more clean-up). And this is all disguised because people promote it as \"healthier\". Really, to cook the way Jamie wants you to cook requires more time, and if you're in a manual labour job (or both parents work and the kids need a hot meal as soon as you get home) that prep time is not available to you.\n\nSo a well-meaning man who successfully increased school meal budgets from **37p per meal** to 50p per meal (by building political pressure and public outrage at constipated kids that only eat frozen foods at school and at home - kids that seemed addicted to Turkey Twizzlers) is doing it in a way that won't help most low-income or working-class families. Because they can't spend the time cutting up chicken breast, coating it and frying it, then cleaning that all up. That takes twice as long as cooking some frozen chicken [goujons/nuggets], and you can do other things while the food is in the oven.",
"Processed food is not inherently \"unhealthy\". But school lunches were very low-quality and low budget. And Jamie putting pressure on it through this show got them to increase the budget to at least 50p per meal. An increase of about 25% at the time.\n\nThe problem isn't chicken nuggets (although I did notice a massive surge in chicken goujon options after this). And some of the families in that show (the parents of the constipated kid who refused to eat anything \"healthy\") were not portrayed in a respectful way. If a bigger point was made that \"kids really enjoy unhealthy food, but here's an effective way to change their tastes\" (without forcing parents to add a lot more labour to their kitchen routine) I think it would be a less classist spin on it. Because at time, it really feels like Jamie just dislikes how much children enjoy frozen foods.",
">Processed food is not inherently \"unhealthy\"\n\nWhen it comes to things like pre-made frozen chicken nuggets, it's more accurate to describe them as ultra-processed food, in that category it's pretty much everything is unhealthy. \n\n>were not portrayed in a respectful way\n\nThe families shown in the turkey twizzlers doc (I'm not sure if it's the same one) were shown respectfully, it was their dispicable actions that led many to deride them. Having a negative reaction to a famous chef providing far superior and healthier free school meals and going to the school gates to pass through sodas, crisps and other unhealthy snacks *is* pathetic. Those parents should be shamed, it was shameful. \n\n> I think it would be a less classist spin on it. Because at time, it really feels like Jamie just dislikes how much children enjoy frozen foods.\n\nBecause when it comes down to it, not providing children with healthy food is tantamount to child abuse, so framing it within classism just doesn't matter - It must be stopped, regardless of whether working-class parents feel they're being condescended too. I think there has been a change in attitude within the UK in the last few years (whether or not Oliver's efforts helped I'm not sure) but working-class people are now more educated than ever about food health.",
"> Having a negative reaction to a famous chef providing far superior and healthier free school meals and going to the school gates to pass through sodas, crisps and other unhealthy snacks is pathetic.\n\nGiving your kids something they want to eat is not \"pathetic\". Not everyone wants roast fish as the protein or boiled carrots as the veg. If it showed posh families doing it too, then it wouldn't be as bad. But no, it's only the lower-income school that's shown (I don't expect him to show a Public School's lunches are problematic).\n\n> Because when it comes down to it, not providing children with healthy food is tantamount to child abuse, so framing it within classism just doesn't matter\n\nAnd healthy food can be frozen. \nCooking a meal at home from fresh/raw ingredients is more labour and time intensive. That's what the video was trying to show. You can only cook at home if you've time (and energy) to cook at home. If both parents working long hours means dinner will be \"child abuse\", then that's a class issue. Wages are too low or hours are too long for these working-class families.\n\nI agree that there's been a big change: I cannot find a \"chicken nugget\" (or chicken finger - thanks Birdseye) that uses anything other than chicken breast meat. Part of the reason for that is the decrease in value of chicken breast meat (wings are more expensive now, and I think thighs have risen in popularity a lot since they're tastier).\n\nI was trying to find a nutritional comparison between pink-slime nuggets and goujons... but everything's \"100% breast\" meat now. Even Tesco/Iceland stuff.",
"you are a moron.",
"In a lot of prisons in Sweden the inmates actually cook their own food, bake their own bread, and for all that to work they also plan menus, order all the required groceries, etc.\n\nNot only is that CHEAPER for the state, but inmates also learn how to cook and bake and so on.",
"He also seems like a decent bloke and hasn't made a media personality out of being a cunt to people.",
"I think that depends a lot on the oven. If I have instructions that say to cook for 22-26 minutes, I cook for 22. If I do 26 it will be a little overcooked.",
"The people who work the longest, hardest hours on the planet cook all of their food at home.",
"The people who live a 20+ minute drive away from the nearest grocery store and working in service industries in some of the most expensive cities in the world are not preparing food from scratch when they get home.\n\nIf you want to talk about rural poverty and subsistence farming as \"the longest, hardest hours on the planet\" I will agree with you. But Jamie isn't helping them either!",
"No, you are for thinking that the food your high school fed you gave you kidney stones. Did your entire school come down with kidney stones?",
"interesting, you’ve never heard of Occam’s Razor.",
"I'll have to guess you misunderstand it if you think it explains why you got kidney stones.",
"ok, let’s break it down then. \n\n1. Everyone has a different body chemistry. \n\n2. I ate the same lunch, 2-3 times a day, 5 days a week for 6 months \n\n3. I’ve never gotten kidney stones again. \n\nSeems like common sense to me. Did you grow up in a house that had a lot of lead paint?",
"So your body chemistry is so different than the presumably hundreds of other kids there who didn't get kidney stones? And it had to do with just the type of food your school was serving, not your choices about what to eat? Interesting.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nYou say you eat the same lunch 2-3 times a day...I have no idea why you were eating lunch 3 times a day, let alone the same thing 2-3 times a day. Have you considered that if you ate that same lunch *anywhere*, you might get kidney stones? It sounds like your school wasn't the problem, your eating choices were.",
"I was an athlete in high school. You need calalories to play any sport. Only option was my school. I noticed to didn’t answer the question about lead paint.",
"So you ate the same exact meal 2-3 times a day, basically every day of your life, and it is the schools fault somehow... and not your own fault for eating the same thing repeatedly?\n\nWhat exactly were you eating?\n\n> I noticed to didn’t answer the question about lead paint.\n\nWhoa there buddy...\"I noticed to\"? No lead paint in my house, but now I'm wondering about you.",
"you got me! All i’m saying is I got kidney stones from my cafeteria and I have no regrets.",
"You got kidney stones from your food choices, not from the quality or preparation of food. This would be like someone saying McDonald's made them fat, when really it was the fact that they ate 20 cheeseburgers a day from there. Overeating made them fat, not McDonald's.",
"By \"highly processed\", you mean putting them in a blender? If that's the evils of \"processing\", then it's all a sham claim. \n\nSince the breading and frying parts are what Jamie advocates for the \"proper\" pieces of meat.",
"well, it’s different. I had no choice to eat cafeteria food. You choose to eat mcdonalds.",
"Hmm, I would argue it’s not not the blending that makes them processed, it’s the sodium phosphate, mono, di- and triglycerides, lecithin, niacin, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid, pyrophosphate, sodium aluminum phosphate, monocalcium phosphate and calcium lactate that make them processed - but that’s just me 🤷♂️",
"Except Jamie Oliver was arguing that the paste he made right there from the chicken carcass was trash. And it contains none of what you listed.",
"Your cafeteria only sold one option? You were literally forced to eat the same thing 2-3x/day every day?",
"No, that was a demonstration to show kids that nuggets are made from pink slime , his point was that they’re not good for people.",
"> his point was that they’re not good for people.\n\nWhich means it has nothing to do with processing or added ingredients. He's claiming nuggets, such as those he made right there from the carcass of the chicken, aren't good.",
"What are you taking about? He literally says *\"then you've got to put a load of stuff in there\"* and dumps a bowl of white powder in, this is referring to addatives/flavouring. He is speaking to kids... it's understood that adults know chicken nuggets are full of addatives.",
"Which is just food fearmongering, particularly because it purposefully avoids any information or knowledge about what is being added. Unless he's going to claim adding preservatives like salt is bad.\n\n(And if he did claim that, I would laugh and call him a moron to his face)",
">particularly because it purposefully avoids any information or knowledge\n\nHe's speaking to 8 year olds... why do *you* keep downplaying the shit they add in nuggets? Salt... no, salt isn't bad, BUT the **amount** of salt they add is often terrible, but there are countless other ingredients that are also bad. We *know* that eating ultra-processed foods leads to a significant increase in the risk of cardiovascular diseases and obesity. \n\n>food fearmongering\n\n22% of US kids are obese... 22%, that is a national health crisis - it's not fearmongering to educate them away from eating junk foods.",
"What you’re listing there are emulsifiers, which Whole Foods contain as well, preservatives, which are needed to make it shelf stable, and added micronutrients, which probably are good if people are going to eat this stuff regularly. \n\nThere’s an argument to be made after the preservatives, but even they aren’t as bad as smoked meat and the rest is just irrelevant"
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"Ya them Dino's are really sneaky eh?"
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"Blah blah blah. Janet Yellen paying lip service. Tax the unimaginably wealthy, not the “people” she is referring to. A woman making millions of dollars off of speeches to the companies Jon brings up has no credibility nor care to change things.",
"Appreciate Yellen doing this interview! And bravo for the quality questions.",
"She showed us exactly where we stand. The corporations own politics and use that to their advantage. She said the companies say “lower our tax rate or we go elsewhere”. It truly is the corporations running the show. Both of them just sat on that one.",
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"yea but its truckin' brother",
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"Spray paint….who knew",
"I missed it...what does the initial white dust do?",
"It’s just a generic insecticide, he uses it in all his videos",
"This looks very inefficient compared to other methods",
"He’s just screwing around because his subscribers want to see weird stuff being used. He did expanding spray foam recently.",
"I know people hate wasps but it kinda bums me out to see those amazing creatures get slaughtered.",
"I wonder what would happen if he sprayed some sort of fast-drying epoxy which covers and seals the hole solid in seconds. Are they just trapped in the nest?",
"Not exactly epoxy but similar idea\n\nhttps://youtu.be/OMwC-owoSmo",
"It's like how toddlers cant understand functions of their environment outside of immediate gratification. We learned about ecology in 3rd grade but idk it's sad seeing it in adults. it's like a generation of bad parents hitting kids and never talking to them. And he's going to inspire a bunch of other 30 year old assholes to kill wasps maybe they feel like they're cleaning the bad out of their life. I just know I'm not messing with a wasp nest unless its within 5 feet of where I hang out. Then I'm just moving it. You can hit it down and they'll move somewhere else."
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"A true classic.",
"How badass, they should be the new Avengers.",
"Behind Benny Lava, this is top 3 [Buffalax'd](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAz50pZn6Ys) video.",
"Kosaken hey hey hey hebt die Gläser!",
"cringe redditeur title",
"Damn I'm a dummy.",
"they're singing in German, bruv"
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"I got a vasectomy and I developed a SEVERE hematoma to the balls and they were swollen to the size of grapefruits(SERIOUSLY) had to have an epidural and surgery to remove all the clotted blood and I will encourage anyone thinking about this hear my story. Not saying it will,jus sayin it CAN!!",
"wait now im scared. did this hurt",
"Totally nuts!\n\nAnd yeah, mine wasn't as bad as grapefruit nuts(sorry about that) I had some discomfort for a while (6mos).",
"Ironically I'm sitting on my couch right now 2 hours post vasectomy. I am not clicking my heels...",
"I also had a hemotoma, not the size of grapefruits but it sucked a lot. It was hard to find info on what was happening to me either, finally I searched my symptoms on youtube and found someone who described exactly what was happening.",
"its now 2 hours for me too. went to the bathroom and there was so much blood on my legs. now im icing my boys.\n\n&#x200B;\n\ni am regretting the heel click",
"Don't, the worst thing people do after is assume they are fine. they're not the drugs just haven't worn off yet.",
"I wish I had more ice packs to rotate in the mix. I underestimated this a little whoops",
"we will get through this, brother",
"I have a 2 yr old and 5 month old coming home from daycare in about 20 mins so that should be interesting. Gonna need the wife to play defense till bedtime",
"I’m surprised it’s wasn’t ME....I’ve been like the dude with the sign saying THE END IS NEAR to anyone that’ll listen but only about about vasectomy...it...was...HELL!!!!!",
"It felt like I had cement and fire in balls the size of grapefruits,they first tried installing drainage tubes coming DIRECTLY out of my balls....didn’t work...so surgery....so yeah...didn’t tickle",
"I think statically we're in the minority. Most guys I talk to were over it within 72 hours.",
"If I can only save one sac.....worth it."
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"Yeeeah. That's not an asshole move at all.",
"Look right to me.",
"Seems kinda pointless and unnecessary when you look at how that hose is routed. Could’ve easily gone around that car.",
"If that was truly blocking access, I get it. But correct me if I'm wrong but they used more hose than if they would have just went around the rear of the car....",
"It definitely is. However, the bigger asshole move is to park on a hydrant overnight.",
"Yep. Not taking away th car owner's fault for parking there but there was literally no reason for that other than \"we'll show him\"",
">It definitely is. However, the bigger asshole move is to park on a hydrant overnight.\n\nNot a hill I'm willing to die on, but I'd have to disagree. The several hundred dollars of personal property damage is kinda more assholish in my opinion. Literally zero reason not to walk around. Prolly took more time to bust out the windows and feed it through even.",
"Who the f*** taught you how to run a hose you God damn rookie",
"Maybe fire hydrants aren’t designed in a very smart way. Lot of countries have detachable hydrants now that connect to a tiny manhole (dwarfhole?) in the ground. Preferably located in places where it is unlikely people can block access.",
"Absolutely, the fucking hose goes through their window and then doubles back and is laying on top of hose on opposite side of car.",
"Serves them right. Don’t block fire hydrants",
"Would make more sense to just push the car out of the way and then roll it over and smash it with axes. Let's not pretend this is about hoses.",
"AND a ticket and tow :-)",
"Yeah, they could definitely have gone around the back of the car, but I'm really just disappointed that we didn't get to see the fireman go all smashy-smashy on that shithead's expensive-ass.",
"I love how much slack they had to put in the hose so they could get it through both car windows and then attach it to the hydrant.",
"They took extra time to double that hose back and make it pass through the car , buy the looks of it possibly reducing flow . I hope no one died as a result of them proving the point that parking in front of a hydrant is selfish/murderous .",
"People could die because they have to take more time than usual to put out a fire. Who cares about windows when peoples lives are at risk?",
"It looks like they have a second line run because the first line has a rather large kink in it due to the odd angle that it is entering the hydrant at. There would be a pretty significant reduction of flow into the truck. What I think most people don't understand is the flow into the pump and the flow out of the pump matter a lot. The guy in the fire at the nozzle if he doesnt get 125 psi (or whatever his nozzle is rated for) is going to have a bad day. \n\nNow you mention hundreds of dollars of personal property damage... what about the apartment that is on FIRE? The fire department here is trying to put a fire out. You know an apartment on FIRE. This FIRE will burn all of the buildings around making MILLIONS of dollars of property damage and you are worried about some windows? How can you be so self centered? \n\nHydrants are a bitch to connect to at the best of times, having a goddamn SUV in the way just makes it worse. They wake up in the middle of the night or whenever, get to a scene and cannot connect to the thing that will save these peoples homes? There are laws in place about not parking near these hydrants. \n\nYou have no idea what you are talking about, you have never fought a fire so why on earth are you pretending to know how to run a fire scene? \"Literally zero reason not to walk around.\"",
"it prob took more time to smash those windows and run the hose through rather than around behind the vehicle",
"If they just ran that hose around the back of the car on the ground it wouldn't have that nasty kink in it.\n\nIt's pretty obvious they did that purely because they ***can*** and not because they ***had*** to.",
"Do you see that nasty kink they had to force into that hose to get it through those windows? Can the pump equipment overcome that kind of deliberate impediment?\n\nThe shortest way of least resistance is behind the car, not through it.\n\nBut hey, if the law sanctions assholery an asshole is gonna exploit that law every opportunity they can, because they can.",
"Looks like some fire fighters proved that cops aren't the only ones that can be dicks.",
"If they just didn’t park in front of the hydrant to begin with…. Problem solved!",
"Could’ve easily not parked in front of a hydrant.",
"But who doesn't like an excuse to legally smash somebody's window? I bet there was a brief argument over who got to do it.",
"The only thing I can think of is that they have it shoved through the car to prevent possibly pulling on the hydrant. If for whatever reason they start pulling the hose down the street and it starts running out of slack by the hydrant, it'll pinch and pull on the car, reducing any pulling force being applied to the hydrant directly.",
"Yeah I hear you, but my literal point was it probably took longer to bust out two windows and feed a hose through it than just walk around. This wasn't because of efficiency.",
"Feel better? Get it all out of your system? Imagine watching the same exact video and asserting that there was just no way to connect without going through the back window. You on drugs dude? Are u not seeing the same vid as the rest of us?\nAnd ur right, I'm not a firefighter but I was a 911 dispatcher and I know the ego that was involved with this decision.",
"Wankers on both sides",
"Yep, no one's arguing that. Just pointing out that this was done maliciously.",
"That makes no sense. You are saying I think they are using the car to not pull on hydrant. So if no1 is parked illegally do they just not use hydrant cause they might pull on it?",
"They're like that in my country. There is a yellow cover with FH on it, they pull that up and connect a T to it and the hoses to that. Depending on the street they're different pressures.\n\nThe hydrants are usually on the foot paths and back enough that they can route the hoses around any cars parked on the road.\n\nI always thought that these types of hydrants were a New York city thing.",
"The only defense you're gonna get going against firemen acting during an emergency is a confused shrug. Going though the car when it's more work is the epitome of asshole on asshole justice, but they do at least provide fair warning that they will gleefully do this. And to be fair the car was in their way to some extent.",
"That could have gone around the car easily. The hose even points to behind the car.",
"Glad we have a fire hydrant technician here. Tell those firefighters who's boss my keyboard assassin! The phonies will try to say \"look, we are the professionals, we know the best way to route this hose to not reduce water pressure at all at this critical supply during this emergency\". But we know redditors know better.",
"You can see that the hoses can clearly make it around the car. This is more to teach a lesson and establish a deterrent (your Windows will be broken and your car immobilized until they can pull the hoses) to try and reduce the chances that someone will block a hydrant when the hose can’t snake around the car or even worse, can’t make it even going through the windows somehow.",
"You can see that the hoses can clearly make it around the car to the hydrant. This is more to teach a lesson and establish a deterrent (your Windows will be broken and your car immobilized until they can pull the hoses) to try and reduce the chances that someone will block a hydrant when the hose can’t snake around the car or even worse, can’t make it even going through the windows somehow.",
"This doesn’t make any logical sense. You’re implying that in situations where a car isn’t blocking the hydrant they are constantly in danger of yanking on the hydrant? You’d think they’d have a better way of avoiding this than counting on a car being illegally parked.\n\nYou can see that the hoses can clearly make it around the car. This is more to teach a lesson and establish a deterrent (your Windows will be broken and your car immobilized until they can pull the hoses) to try and reduce the chances that someone will block a hydrant when the hose can’t snake around the car or even worse, can’t make it even going through the windows somehow.",
"You can see that the hoses can clearly make it around the car. This is more to teach a lesson and establish a deterrent (your Windows will be broken and your car immobilized until they can pull the hoses) to try and reduce the chances that someone will block a hydrant when the hose can’t snake around the car or even worse, can’t make it even going through the windows somehow.\n\nThey parked illegally blocking an emergency fire hydrant. It could be very dangerous.",
"Ya, pretty hard to see that hose goes through window and back around to where hookup is. It's clearly a huge stretch to say that you can see that. Don't strain yourself trying to see the huge loop it makes though, cause clearly your untrained eyes couldnt' possibly see that.",
"Lets also paint the fire hydrant the same color as the sidewalk for stealth!",
"no that Im apposed to this, but seems like they took a pretty big detour to put it through the window instead of behind the car",
"I mean I’m not a firefighter and we don’t have much context of this situation. Obviously you are correct about if they could of they should of went around. We don’t know what’s going on before this was recorded though",
"I can appreciate the logical way you approached this, and I dig what ur saying.",
"The only thing I know about this situation is that a vehicle was illegally blocking a fire hydrant during an emergency, and the professionals made a decision on the best course of action. Maybe there are reasons for this routing you don't understand.",
"Ya genius, the comments you are replying to originated from a guy saying \"But correct me if I'm wrong but they used more hose than if they would have just went around the rear of the car....\" I'm glad you know where you started.",
"And we're missing the end, where they disconnect the hose and pull the coupler/shank roughly back through the car, making sure to dent the doors, rip the upholstery, and thoroughly water the inside of the car with hose drainage. [edit - a word]",
"no? the car can act as a cushion if the hose goes tight. The car is a bonus, not a necessity.",
"I'm a little confused, and not invested in this thread enough to sort it out. But I don't think that keyboard warrior knows better than the firefighters on scene. \"Why not just go over?\", \"Why not just go under?\", \"Why not go around?\". All have the same answer: because the professionals decided not to, to save lives or minimize risk. What are we even talking about?\n\nWhat do you think about delta8? Shit's crazy.",
"I don't have to imply that, it makes perfect sense. If a hose goes from a hydrant, out towards the center of the street then down the street, and is pulled on, the car will crumple a bit where the hose is, and possibly move. It's not the best, but it's a better scenario than the hose being pulled on with nothing to pull on the hydrant's end other than the hydrant itself.\n\nI was trying to think of some practical reason it goes through the car other than what you suggested.",
"What's crazy about delta8? Don't worry the professionals will take care of it.",
"Exactly. This design and placement of hydrants is stupid to begin with. They take up perfectly good parking spaces. This video is stupidity on stupidity on stupidity.",
"I do love that rather than bust a single window and unlock the doors, they take out two windows lol",
"I think you missed his point entirely",
"I got his point, but it's a silly assumption. Why would I be saying that if there is no car illegally parked that the hydrant isn't used?",
"Lol, tickets? Yeah right. The \"rich fucker\" would just continue to block fire hydrants and pay tickets. This is much more effective at getting more people to never do this. Especially now that its on reddit.",
"What better lesson than a flipped over car that looks like Vikings killed it?",
"> This is more ~~to teach a lesson and establish a deterrent (your Windows will be broken and your car immobilized until they can pull the hoses) to try and reduce the chances that someone will block a hydrant when the hose can’t snake around the car or even worse, can’t make it even going through the windows somehow~~ a power trip.\n\nFTFY",
"Considering there was plenty of room to run the cable, I dont see the issue with how its parked, just cunts smashing shit for their power trip, maybe they should apply for the police.",
"The rich fucker will just buy new windows for his land Rover, or better yet, a while new one!",
"You don't seem to understand the problem here.",
"Imagine defending a public workers abuse of power.",
"If they can afford a ticket, they can afford windows. Your argument is dumb.",
">One day, they're going to kill somebody, just for a parking spot.\n\nOne day, they're going to waste more minutes running the hose in the opposite direction of the fire so they can smash a car for fun and kill somebody, just for a video.",
"Dicks the FD and the car owner.",
"I don't agree with all of these claims that it was done for fun. Yes, there was plenty of room to go around the rear of the vehicle, but it's pretty clear the fire fighters are making a statement. The car being parked there is not legal. I can see the person in the wrong in this situation, can you? We have laws for a reason, and this guy needed a reminder.",
"Yeah, the guy that parked illegally in front of the water supply that the fire fighters need to put fires out is the only one that's not a dick in this situation. I feel sorry for his windows, poor guy.",
"I'd bet that there was no discussion over it and they switch turns because they don't waste seconds.",
"This is definitely to send a message and not necessary at all",
"What I see happening: truck pulls up, guy jumps out and starts smashing windows, another grabbing hose follows right behind and feeds the hose through. They see the angle of the hydrant, their mistake, but decides to own it an follow through the rather ridiculous path. Filming it gives them the cover to show that they routed the hose through the vehicle and weren’t out just breaking shit. I cannot say I have seen a hydrant angled like that. Maybe so they aren’t broadsiding vehicles passing by when they flush them, I don’t know. \n The cameraman’s message is spot on but that particular incident is a horrible example.",
"> We have laws for a reason, and this guy needed a reminder.\n\nlolol tell that to the GQP",
"Maybe the hose was already there and someone parked their car around it.",
"I wasn't aware that firefighters were part of the Judicial Branch of the US government.",
"Did you even look at the video? He already got a ticket, like he certainly deserved. But the fire fighters had to actually put extra effort into running the hose through the window. That hose literally goes past the back of the car...and then they bent it back to reach the window.",
"How sheltered are redditors that they're surprised firefighters from **FUCKING NYC** would go out of their way to be an asshole to some douchebag parked on a hydrant. So ridiculously removed from the idea of consequences, like children.",
"I like how you think.",
"You’re an idiot. Those things are like 20 ft in the ground. And firefighters aren’t worried about the hydrant pulling out. That is such a stupid thought I can’t believe it. That truck was most certainly not the first one in. They could have been hooked up to another truck them switched to that one for water supply. Also they did it because he was parked in front of a hydrant and had an excuse to. With justification of he could have driven over the hose which will damage it. That way there is no risk of that. All justified.",
"Because if that asshole decided to drive over the hose and break it which it will, then they lose their water supply. You don’t lay hose underneath vehicles ever. That is the reason. God the people in this thread are stupid.",
"To be faaaaaaair, parking in NYC is at times, 'problematic' lol",
"Yeah fuck people who park in front of hydrants but these fire fighters are being pieces of shit.. they broke that car just because they could, the hydrant was more easily accessible without going through the car.",
"This make me so happy to see, its just so beautiful. We can all clearly tell they didn't have to go through and yet this asshole parked in front of a hydrant so he's gotta get his windows busted. Its the rules.",
"I see what you’re saying, but they’re responding to a fire, which could kill people. Would they really smash out two windows and feed the hose through to teach someone a lesson in an emergency situation?",
"And there appears to be no real reason, besides dummy tax on the ass blocking a fire hydrant. \n\nThe loop through the car shortens their range, but that also doesn't really matter. You typically roll out the needed hose before opening for the water, and it takes very little time to add 30 m excess.",
"They wasted seconds putting it through the window of the car when going behind would be more convenient.",
"Exactly",
"Definitely took more time.",
"Oh I bet they're more than 20 ft in the ground. Yes yes we all understand that they had an excuse to break the window and that's probably why it was done.\n\nI'm not here to convince you of anything, not trying to start an argument, only sharing an opinion. And if people are so hostile then what point do I have for continuing an exchange with them?\n\nPhysically, I'm correct; the car would act as a cushion (albeit a bad one) if the hose was pulled laterally. It reduces the chances of damaging the hydrant by distributing the load. This isn't something to debate, it's a scientific fact. Was that a reason the window was broken? That's debatable. Maybe a firefighter can chime in. I have no problem conceding that this isn't a recognized benefit by firefighters, that doesn't change the fact that it is.\n\nYou're right that trucks could have pulled in at all sorts of different times and in different conditions. It's like watching a fight when it's already half over.",
"Yup, I’m guessing that video would give the driver the ability to fight it with the city. Especially an a-hole move because they ticketed the driver as well.",
"Considering the hose was already going behind the car I promise you it took more seconds to smash the window and feed a hose through.",
"By the fact your comments are being downvoted you clearly missed the point.",
"Except the car wasn’t a problem. They had to go out of their way to put the hose through the car when it was already going around it. It had to double back through the car.",
"Also it wasted more time. If they cared about putting out the fire they wouldn’t have wasted time just to do that.",
"Clearly you don’t live in New York City where finding parking can be hell. There is actually a great Seinfeld on it. It is damn hard finding a spot and depending how long you are at that location some take the risk.",
"This is the firefighter version of moderator power tripping.\nExcept firefighters have some element of legitimacy.",
"You should not drive bro follow the damn rules idiot",
"\"Murderous\". \n\nAt least you stopped short of calling it genocide.",
"Doesn’t change the fact they wasted more time just to spite that driver. In a profession where every second means more damage and people’s lives that was absolutely a petty move.",
"Yes, yes they would. There is not a one profession more macho than firemen, so basically it's their duty to smash the car up. Otherwise they would be called pussies.",
"*insert Joker image here*\n\nIt's not about how much hose is used.\n\nIt's about sending a message.",
"If you can't see a fire hydrant while parking, I think you have more issues than just parking.",
">/u/shellwe Clearly you don’t live in New York City where finding parking can be hell.\n\nPark farther away, don't try to say that blocking a fire hydrant is justified.\n\n>It is damn hard finding a spot and depending how long you are at that location some take the risk.\n\nJust because you own a vehicle, does not mean you deserve to have the rights of the road over everyone else. You could have used public transportation, ride hailing, etc. Everybody else has the same issue and can deal with it.",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JkrJUAg8aI",
"It’s the most passive aggressive thing to do. I don’t know why this behavior is celebrated. Yes, they shouldn’t have parked there but there’s no reason for this. It’s some egotistical grump who just wants to make a point.",
"Yes because a kinked hose is going to help with water flow.",
"Kind of like the driver. they did that purely because they can and not because they had to.",
"It’s not like they can pull 30’ of hosing out and go shit I only need 10’ once the hose is out it’s out. There’s no hose on a reel on these trucks.",
"Why is there no marking on the ground to clarify you are not allowed to park there?\nIn Germany this spot would bei crossed out or there would be a sign to tell you it is illegal to park there.",
"Once you pull out hosing it’s out. Next time there is a fire emergency go look at the ground and look at the hosing on the ground. It’s not like this is a time to be orderly, getting a measuring tape out and trying to figure out if you need the 25’ or 27’ hoses. Just get hoses and keep adding on when needed.",
"Yeah this same genius who parked here would probably next try to get in their car and leave.",
"Nope they intentionally parked in front of a hydrant potentially making it inaccessible , putting lives and property at increased risk, VERY illegal, (did you know your property insurance is tied to how close to a fire hydrant you are and the amount of flow it can provide?) This driver will have zero recourse.",
"Is it malicious if it's standard practice? I mean everyone knows if you block a hydrant and there's a fire you're fucked and you fucked up.",
"Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see any road markings Infront of the hydrant to state you can't actually park there?",
"It totally looks like they could have just fed the fire hose behind the suv lol.",
"Yea… I just commented something very similar lol\n\nWelcome to New York, I guess lol.",
"Is this r/amitheasshole? You both are the asshole.",
"Was the dude who illegally parked his range Rover on a power trip too? \n\nEveryone knows if you park in front of a hydrant and there's a fire you're fucked and you fucked up.",
"So fine him bigly. If need be, ram it out of the way. But the keywords here are: if need be.\n\nThey didn't need to do this, it took more time to do it to fuck with him than it would have to walk around and connect it. It was 100% \"we'll show him for parking here\"\nThe dude deserves a hefty fine, but not malicious personal property damage when literally no rhyme or reason beyond malice.",
"Maybe they didn’t know how much length they would need when they showed up? So they went smashy and assumed they’d need the max?",
"You’re clearly missing the main point of discussion in this thread",
"For all all we know they spent an hour trying to find somewhere to park after working 12 hours. Plus, there was room for the hose anyway.",
"One of the first things you're taught in drivers ed is not to park in front of fire hydrants.... it's always illegal everywhere",
"Lol not advocating for parking on hydrants... But nyfd are just being dickheads here ...",
"Fair enough",
"Well its nyc so...",
"We call them new yorkers",
"It's even worst now that all the fucking restaurants took all the parking for covid.\n\n\nPrivate parking is raking in bank...",
"And then the alarm going on forever must be disruptive at best",
"In new York it is your basic right... No, obligation to be a complete dickhead... Apparently",
"Being we should celebrate vandalism and abuse of power?",
"Wait wait wait!!! Yes they could've gone behind the vehicle.. BUT... that angled fire hydrant... why not install all fire hydrants like that to open up more parking spaces!?!",
"its not obviously intenetional , id say the person didnt even think about it when parking and was a common mistake",
"Holy shit, you all need to learn what passive sarcasm is. Clearly this is just to prove a point. If you park at the hydrant you’re violating a traffic law and they will do whatever we need or want. Sure they could just connect the hose around the back of the car, but then this fucking Range Rover tool wouldn’t have learned their lesson.",
"The reason we don't park in front of hydrants is so we don't endanger the lives and property of everyone living on the block.",
"NYC fire fighters have the hardest job. Those fuckers are constantly on call all day long. All they want to do is do their job to save lives so they can home alive at their end of their shift. The tickets are the city’s way to deter people from blocking access. Smashing the window is the firemen way’s to communicate “and this is why you don’t park in front of a fire hydrant, asshole”. People here don’t understand this is not a parking spot, just like parking in front of someone’s drive way is not a parking spot.",
"Not only does it look unnecessary. It looks like they reduced the hose capacity by kinking it, im not a fireman but I think kinking the house would reduce its life span/reliability which isnt something you cant afford in situations like this just to prove a point.\n\nGuys still a dick for sure, kinking a hose you needed to save lives to prove a point isnt much better.",
"There are fines, towing expenses and jail for that. You can’t say something is not legal and turn a blind eye to something that should be illegal.",
"Face: Fuck you nose! Time to come off!\n\nNose: …",
"I am a firefighter dipshit. That’s why I know what I’m talking about. There is no risk of damage to a hydrant by pulling on it.",
"Stop shotgun spamming the same comment everywhere",
"Going through the window is costing them length. I mean, fuck the guy that parked there, but I feel like they just did it cause they could.",
"welcome to reddit",
"Felt relevant to each thread.",
"I think the point is that the emergency situation might necessitate smashing windows.",
"Your point was the complete opposite, that it *could* go around the back",
"Yeah, the point is that it can in situations like these, but these set a precedent for when it can’t get around the vehicle. Just don’t park in front of fire hydrants.",
"lol no I refuse to believe a firefighter is name calling from the first reply and is this upset.",
"Nobody cares what you believe. You clearly have no idea what too are talking about. And yea I’m totally making it up. I’ve only done it for 20 years but what do I know. Lol",
"I've actually been designing fire hydrants for the last 20 years. Famed magazine Hydrants Monthly has had my designs on the cover five times; I think I know what I'm talking about. The JSquirt 300 model has a notoriously weak base. Did you skip hydrant class? You should know this!",
"Which is?",
"The thing is, this is known. That NYC firemen will do this. Wether they need to or not. I knew this as a kid. I always hoped to see it. Never did. It could be an out of towners’ car? I can’t get a read on that rear license plate. Right or wrong, necessary or needlessly spiteful, you need to know they’re gonna do this. I’ve never tempted fate my whole life, as a result.",
"Agreed. Plus I can’t imagine how many hydrants don’t even work but make money for the city due to tickets."
] | 152 |
videos
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How the FDNY deals with someone illegally parked in front of a hydrant
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https://youtu.be/LSG8d_e7A9g
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/r/videos/comments/qijy02/british_military_traditions/
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[
"Hol on. Is this not a parody video? I thought for sure it is, but after watching the whole thing I truly can't tell. British humor is dry... But also maybe the British are truly eccentric enough to have these traditions? Feeding cigarettes to the goat? Drinking from the Chamber pot? Please tell me this is a parody (with incredibly high production quality?)",
"All US military branches have tradition called “combat dining in”. It’s a banquet with absurd rules and tradition and includes cocktail served from a toilet bowl known as the “grog.” Youtube can probably fill you in on the details. Perhaps this British tradition is the genesis of such silliness?",
"No, its part of a 30year old documentary. Its serious, if played with dry sense of humour.",
"Probably from this tradition of drinking from Napoleon's brother's chamber pot https://www.krh.org.uk/the-emperor-1813.html",
"They're mostly still going too",
"This is actually featured in the doc op linked",
"Oh yeah, good point! Long time since I've seen it",
"that whole island has lead poisoning"
] | 8 |
videos
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British military traditions
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https://files.catbox.moe/q4ylfr.mp4
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/r/videos/comments/qik0wm/the_invisible_hand_behind_unusual_corporate/
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[
"this is entirely bullshit made up by a conman who has been selling bullshit for years.",
"False, ESG score does influence institutional investors liklihood of remaining in their portfolio.\n\nDo you REALLY believe that Twix spontaneously thought to spend and entire commercial on trans kids and 100% ignore their own product? Do you believe that these giant corps care about this shit? Be real for a moment.",
"I have no illusions that the corps care about anything except money, which is why I don't think they give a shit about ESG\n\nthe idea that commercials were ever about the product they are trying to sell is just naivety about how commercials work",
">corps care about anything except money, which is why I don't think they give a shit about ESG\n\nContradictory statement. The ESG score is placed on each public companies investor relations page that the giant institutional investors use for keeping or removing picks in their portfolio. They don't take chances, there's an avalanche of woke commercials being dumped and they don't even care if it has zero to do with their product. Did you actually watch the video to the end? You think it's a coincidence the 1 pattern they all suddenly have is a desire to push the woke button? Sorry, that's money talking right there. Don't be Naive. They don't give a frenchmans fuck for 1 moment.",
"i hope you escape your echo chamber one day",
"I hope you escape the televised echo chamber and stop believing it's lies one day.",
"Whoa. You're following some conservative radio guy\n\n who's like your best friend in your heart (I know because they go after lonely people) \n\nwhose definitely propagandizing you into being part of a fanatical army,\n\n who says that globalist elite are turning your straight culture into trans \"wokism\", (like it's a religion) culture. In order to make money. And you should be scared. \n\nAnd youre accusing everyone else of being in an echo chamber? \n\nIf I cast a detail about the rest of society into a menacing light, (eg. \"everyone else believes the earth is flat\") you might start pursuing the promise of learning esoteric knowledge, and end up thrown into an ARG. it's kind of like Orwell's \"war of worlds\", it's just not really ethical to do that to you without your consent. \n\nIm offended at your accusations and want to show you how stupid you are for falling for it, but on the other hand, it was maliciously designed for you.",
"Wow. No to all of that, you can pull up all the information on ESG scores right now. It's not a conservative radio guy's fantasy, in fact he lives in San Francisco and was friends with Steve Jobs and created the worlds first podcast. He's speaking the facts. Right now you can pull up any publicly traded company and on their profile public relations page see their ESG - (woke'ism) score. It's real and companies like Tesla who are green as fuck for producing electric cars have a LOW esg score because they don't like Teslas snarky comments about woke culture and cancel culture. You need to remove your head from you ass and stop turning everything into politics, it's blinding you from the truth in front of your own eyes. I beg you to snap out of it from this day forward and stop being a reddit left-ist propagandized woke-muppet. They mock you ever day for your allegiance to insanity.",
"ESG is just another they repackaged the same message. \n\nReduce, reuse, recycle. Corporate social responsibility. Kyoto protocol. Sustainable development goals. All the same. Blame the people and not the real culprits.",
"There’s no standard way of measuring ESG. The measurements are meaningless.",
"Correct, it's 100% bullshit and decided by hyper leftist wokist cultists for the express goal to damage a companies appearance to major institutional investors, forcing the companies to make insane commercials, where for a whole 2 minutes they ignore their entire product and bow down to the woke lords. There is no standard way of measuring ESG, it's a fabricated score by pure psychopaths. That's the point of it's entire design.",
"That's an interesting way to ignore the entire video, especially the end where it's obvious this have zilch to do with reduce, reuse and recycle.",
"chef's kiss to the moonlight sonata soundtrack 😂😂😂"
] | 13 |
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The invisible hand behind unusual corporate commercials - ESG explained and short compilation of it's madness on corporate culture
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fD2Mm-YFVk
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/r/videos/comments/qikgu3/a_dude_from_high_school_was_locked_inside_alone/
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[
"if he is alone who is holding the camera?",
"Good point, I meant the music lol. Another guy filmed it, but it looks like he did everything else. He said he shaved the beard for each part",
"looks and sounds like a high schooler made this in his basement."
] | 3 |
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A dude from high school was locked inside alone during quarantine and started writing music. He came up with this music video
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=GwknwRB-eVA&feature=share
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/r/videos/comments/qikst3/the_home_depot_theme_but_slowed_down_and_added/
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[
"Here's the original:\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycPDM8OVqLI\n\nIt's not slowed down very much.",
"Holy shit you’re right!",
"Depot Mode",
"TIL the Home Depot has a theme song and TIL that it slaps"
] | 4 |
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The Home Depot Theme But Slowed Down And Added Reverb
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov89e2d91vM
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/r/videos/comments/qil4vm/chainsaw_man_trailer/
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[
"I’m pretty excited for this. Anyone know the release date on this? This might be the next BIG anime.",
"Aw, I thought it was a new one. All excited for nothing",
"If it’s like the manga, this show is going to be rad",
"Pshh looks like every other slice of life wholesome anime. Let me guess the biggest arc plot is a character trying to pick which cake to buy.\n\nI’m gonna stick to real hardcore anime like Yuru Camp.",
"FP > CSM",
"I have no idea what the fuck this was but I'm hyped",
"Beautiful"
] | 7 |
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Chainsaw Man trailer
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https://youtu.be/cV2gBU6hKfY
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/r/videos/comments/qil5f5/i_cleaned_the_worlds_dirtiest_beach_teamseas/
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[
"I don't follow his content, but I like this video. I will always support a beach clean up.",
"I feel the same way. Few things are more satisfying to me than someone reversing damage to the ocean",
"$2.3 million raised already. I feel like dude is going to hit his goal super quickly.",
"I don’t know who this guy is but this YouTube thumbnail is fucking awful",
"#slapmybeachup",
"He's the guy that has raised more than 3M in just a few hours to clean up the ocean. You are the neckbeard complaining about the thumbnail.",
"Hey that’s no neckbeard! He’s an anus tart!",
"Clickbait thumbnails is how you get views. Title/Thumbnail can make a huge difference in how your video preforms. \n\nGiven that he's actually pretty decent as a person it can slide",
"His thubmnails get 20-50 Million views on the regular. Lmao!",
"finally redirecting his viral talent to a good cause",
"Well said",
"Finally?? This dude did team trees two years ago. He's bought entire grocery stores to give to the hungry. He runs his own food drive. He's cleared medical debts.\n\nWho the fuck are you",
"I didn't know that. I am a human being.",
">Who the fuck are you\n\nEasy big guy lmao",
"Then why make a comment saying \"finally\"? This is a prime example why 90% of comments on Reddit are worthless garbage, no one knows what they're talking about yet feel they have to put in their opinion.",
"Lol",
"Lol",
"Why, in every video thumbnail, does this dude always have an expression like a snapping turtle just bit the tip of his penis?",
"I must admit I commented too quickly. I realise I only watched his ridiculous type of videos where he spends a lot of money on trivial stuff.",
"You seem to know who he is, you seem to think he is \"finally\" doing something good. Dunno, you seem to already have an opinion",
"I think he meant \"finally\" referring to almost all youtubers/social personalities, not Mr.Beast in particular, thats how I read it tho.",
"The guy already admitted fault. It's good to challenge people, but it's even better to practice forgiveness and collaborating.",
"I admit fault. I judged too quickly. I think it's because I only saw his \"ridiculous\" videos where he just throws around money.",
"Because that’s what kids click on",
"Not just kids, in fact it is what is most likely for all people to click on"
] | 25 |
videos
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I Cleaned The World’s Dirtiest Beach #TeamSeas
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXDx6DjNLDU
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/r/videos/comments/qil6hp/this_robot_eats_trash_teamseas/
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[
"Thanks for this. Now we should just ignore the problem and blame everyone else. Feels like the most sensible American thing to do.",
"Absolutely. If other countries are to blame it’s not our job to clean up their garbage. “Poor communities don’t have garbage collection” do you know how easy it would be to stick a boat on that river as a garbage truck? Stick some containers on the river’s edge and load it onto the boat. It’s trivial.\n\nTelling the western world to waste less is stupid. We already dispose of our trash effectively. Tell the dude with a run-down house to fix theirs instead of knocking on our door and complaining that my drive has weeds on it.",
"> If other countries are to blame it’s not our job to clean up their garbage.\n\nI think there's something to say about American companies driving that behavior in those countries.",
".... And you don't think they're working on that? Or... The half dozen other things, like the nets capturing the waste before it hits the ocean to begin with?",
"I think if there was *something* to say you would already have said it.",
"No, I don’t think they’re working on that.\n\nI think it benefits us more as a country if shithole countries remain a shithole. \n\nThe great barrier reef is in a HUGE decline that it’s ridiculous. We don’t need to clean up other countries. Our own rich ones are in trouble as it is. i’d much prefer if these ocean clean up things were actually powered by wind turbines , static , and surrounded the parts of the ocean we need to protect.",
"As if this technology can't be used there?",
"The point is that we don’t produce the trash into the world’s oceans, it’s the countries across the world who are much less wealthy.",
"That's a stupid point",
"i fucking hate clickbait thumbnails with the burning passion of a thousand suns.",
"[Mmm trash, yum yum trash, I love trash](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9Xjryx2zQw)",
"I have. I'm saying there's plenty of American industry that's responsible for this mess. This isn't a secret.",
"r/uselessredcircle",
"People like your are absolutely insufferable",
"you wat\n\nYou can't just, eh, seal off \"your part of the ocean\". I'm not sure if you're aware of, eh, how big it is.\n\nThe only way to prevent plastic from getting into your fish and onto your beaches, is catching it at the source. Putting these machines over there is probably the cheapest solution.\n\nOh, and btw, \"these ocean clean up things\", the ones in the video, are off-grid self powered.",
"What’s with the “eh”’s?\n\nYour tone is patronising and you can forget getting a proper reply if you’re gonna talk like that.",
"You must be a really pleasant person to deal with irl.",
"An honorable and much needed venture. I wish everyone involved the best of luck, and I really do hope that this will reach its goals. Teamtrees was ambitious, this even more so. Donated 5 dollars, thank you for doing all the heavy lifting for people like me",
"I am. It’s just funny when people make comments like that and think they made a point.",
"What...?\n\n...the fuck are you even saying?\n\nWhat does this have to do with a video shot in the Dominican Republic about a global charity drive to fund an NGO founded by a Dutch-Croatian entrepreneur?\n\nDid... did you think the Dominican Republic was part of the US? According to your post history, you're UK, but pretending to be US in this thread?\n\nWhere is your head at to even get to this bizarre xenophobia from this vid?\n\n>I think it benefits us more as a country if shithole countries remain a shithole.\n\n\\-you, two comments below this.\n\nIt's like you didn't watch the video, made a completely incorrect assumption about what it was about, got offended *based* off of your incorrect assumption, and then decided the appropriate thing to do would be to attack the concepts of charity and environmentalism because of some bizarre perceived slight incurred by... the idea of cleaning up trash?",
"These kinds of videos are always about pushing the “recycle” crap. “You have to use paper bags or some shithole country gets their beaches dirty”\n\nLike, no. \n\nWe dispose of our trash just fine. It’s not a problem. It’s when other countries dispose of their trash by throwing it in the ocean where it DOES become a problem. \n\nThe US, UK and every other western country does not dispose of our rubbish in any negligent way yet we are the ones who get cried at.",
"[https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/17/recycled-plastic-america-global-crisis](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/17/recycled-plastic-america-global-crisis) \n\n\nPlease read this, for the love of god (and earth).",
"I have made a point. Just because it's slightly less-than-explicit doesn't mean it's not there. I wasn't talking in code.",
"> America sends 1 million tonnes of plastic waste overseas each year\n\nhttps://www.epa.gov/facts-and-figures-about-materials-waste-and-recycling/national-overview-facts-and-figures-materials\n\n“The US produces 300 million tonnes of trash a year”\n\nhttps://youtu.be/Ag1o3koTLWM\n\nThanks for the laugh honestly.",
"The source of the trash isn't 1% of the rivers. It's from people who have no better place to throw their trash but the river. The unsexy, but effective solution to solving the trash problem in the ocean is to build more landfills in developing countries. The trash the robot collects goes into a landfill anyways. The video alludes to this a little bit, but even as a temporary solution it doesn't seem particularly effective. It would be cheaper and easier just to collect the trash directly from the dump sites.",
"Came for this, was not disappointed",
"How about setup an incinerator to generate power and sell that power and with any proceeds pay the people for the trash?",
"Glad you laughed. Ignorance is bliss.",
"You are missing the point, it's not who or what countries are to blame. We need to work together as humans and a world population to stop pollution.",
"You're being patronizing to the rest of the world, the ones we're discarding as worthless, so I can't care too much.\n\nYou're considering yourself or your country so much better, you can't even imagine that the problem ignores borders. IMO that's rather naïve.",
"Mark rober: One thing everyone can agree on is that we need to clean up our oceans, regardless of where the plastics come from\n\nRedditors: Not so fast, this is clearly an attack on western countries, attempting to address this issue is clearly an attack on us non-shithole countries!!!!!11!\n\n&#x200B;\n\nUnbelievable lol",
"Rocket ships straight into the sun.",
"30 million should be paid by the governments not the people, this is wrong, we shouldn't have to do this",
"Has the Ocean Cleanup improved their reputation in the past few years? \n\nThey had big problems with their work in the open ocean effectively causing mass killings of local wildlife because they were dragging a massive net which would obviously catch marine wildlife. Their other effort in the open ocean wasn't much better as they were doing surface catching of plastics, causing surface-dwelling organisms to die in large numbers and potentially threatening their existence as both the Ocean Cleanup devices and organisms follow the same currents. They were also doing so with flagrant disregard of the responsibility to actually research into ecosystem impacts of their work. \n\nHopefully the money from this for them sticks to the rivers.",
"ideally yes but that would require systemic changes that probably wouldn't happen anytime soon so this is better than nothing, i suppose",
"17.6 billion lbs per year. 30 mil aint shit this isnt a job the common people should be paying for.",
"Hey just checking, have you been diagnosed with autism at all or another cognitive impairment?\n\nIt's super common for people with the illness to not be able to understand basic social cues or take in information like a normal human. For example in this case he talks about how the trash comes from impoverished communities in 3rd world countries and talks about the UN working to fix this issue. He then actually visits an example community that most humans would be able to understand is not in america. Most cognitively normal humans would also be able to realise the UN isn't working on trash solutions in the states. \n\nYou replied with something about him neglecting to mention it's a 3rd world country problem and not originating in the states.\n\nSo we have identified you have a clear inability to process visual data. Have you considered going in for a checkup? I think it's really important for cognitively impaired to be able to identify they have a problem and understand the limitations of the brain.",
"Exactly what I was thinking haha no way!",
"You do know about recycling?",
"You do know that America has rivers? And those are also polluted?",
"[That doesn't sound right but I don't know enough about incinerators to dispute it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIMcStAwJ7Y)",
">or another cognitive impairment?\n\n... Says you.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nWhat does social cues have to do with this?\n\n&#x200B;\n\n\\>take in information like a normal human.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nNormal human beings throwing trash into the river? Or normal human beings that dont see the problem with few places causing the vast majority of plastic pollution? Seems like its someone else that have trouble with either processing information, problem solving or take in information rofl",
"It's still our shared planet. As inconvenient as it is it's very much still our problem whether we like it or not.",
"I know. You clowns literally reuse that phrase constantly",
"If you watch the video, he interviews Boyon",
"It's probably more cost effective than pulling it out of the ocean. And certainly better than having it affect ocean wildlife.",
"You’re telling me that isn’t a hyper realistic trash eating Android?",
"They put it in a different ocean with less sexy wildlife",
"I just donated for this project by buying some shirts and a hoodie. \n\ngood cause and hope others donate as well.",
"I don't either\n\nhttps://fortune.com/2015/10/20/germany-import-trash/",
"Recycling is underutilized. Rates of recycling in the US have dropped in recent years. Recycling ought to be the third step behind reusing items and Reducing Initial Consumption. \n\nCreate less stuff to begin with, and garbage disposal is immediately less of a problem.",
"> 30 million should be paid by the governments not the people\n\nGovernments *are* the people, one way or the other it would come out of our pockets.\n\nShould govs be more efficient and more eco-friendly with their spending? Absolutely. But whether it's a bunch of people getting together and setting up a GoFundMe, or a bunch of people getting together and setting up taxes... the result is the same.",
"I mean... I find it hard to think that this wasn't intentionally a joke on the concept of terrible clickbait thumbnails with /r/uselessredcircle",
"Ironically, emotional reactivity is also what makes clickbait thumbnails so effective.",
"The video addresses this. The problem isn't just a lack of landfills, it's a lack of the kind of road infrastructure needed to run a trash collection service. In that respect, it is, in fact, cheaper and easier to let the watershed do the work of trash collection. (Transportation and proper housing infrastructure have value beyond trash collection, but it is neither cheap nor quick)",
"Please provide a source.",
"I don't mean a formal waste disposal system. Just some load trash from flood prone areas onto trailers every so often, and you'll stop it from entering the rivers in the first place. This has the added benefit of not contaminating their drinking water with a ton of microplastics.",
"If you can't see past the thumbnail to appreciate what content lies within, that's on you not them. Who gives a shit what the thumbnail shows.",
"It's almost as if Boyon addressed this in the video 🤯",
"But isn't it the people who are the ones littering?",
"ahh yes, they towed the waste outside of the enviroment.",
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"If by eats you mean.. picks it up and places somewhere else, sure. Now that I think about it, all things that 'eat' simply pick up things and place them somewhere else. Nothing goes away, everything is just moved. The trash was here all along we can simply see it now in a different spot before we solve the problem by moving it again to another spot.",
"Yes but also like the video said, we put our trash in these bins, dumpsters, and receptacles which get magically emptied. They don't have that type of wasteomancy and if you stop to think about it, trash builds up FAST. I don't blame them for not properly disposing of it, I blame the lack of infrastructure. That's the government's job.",
"I'm sure some can be recycled or burned, but landfill is still *significantly* better than it ending up in our oceans.",
"Ah, so they tow it to Jersey Shore. Gotcha.",
"Well we tried waiting for a government to do it and that didn't work...",
"What a surprise 😂 Every shitty person follows those subreddits and then get offended when we call them out. A bunch of snowflakes they are.",
"What do you THINK clickbait means?",
"Source? I can find nothing of this and they don't use nets. Maybe you're confusing them with someone else?",
"You can read through this Twitter thread to find out about of some of the issues: https://twitter.com/RebeccaRHelm/status/1454222960789762048",
"A lot of whining in here. I expect Boris Johnson and trickle down economics will have this thing sorted and we don't need these fine people to step up. /s",
"I thought of doing a combinedgifs of these two",
"Donated $10 last night",
"Hey man, it's natural when confronted with the knowledge that you have a cognitive disability to become defensive. That's totally natural and actually the first step.\n\nNow we have already established you have a clear objective problem with taking in data from a visual media as expressed through your sheer confusion and misunderstanding of the information presented.\n\nLet's see if we can get you to step 2, acceptance. A good starting point is to rewatch the video and see if you can pick up that he clearly demonstrated he was talking about 3rd world countrys. It can often take the cognitively impaired a few trys to receive the same information.\n\nA few cues you can use, a good hint he wasn't talking about America was when he referenced 3rd world country's, UN activity to prevent this trash dumping. Another great hint is when he actually visits one of the example community's that keen eyes viewers might realise is not American.\n\nSee if you can pick up on these totally subtle hints on your second watch. I beleieve in you :). Let me know how you go.\n\nEDIT: it looks like your original comment was deleted. Your disability is nothing to be ashamed about, one of the initial first steps is opening up to the public about it.",
"Lol don't act like you didn't just come in the comments to have a whinge. You put yourself here, dummy.",
"Thank God... Good.",
"Why does it feel like they're not effectively addressing the source issue?\n\nThis \"solution\" doesn't solve the root cause. Why does it feel like every single attempt at bettering the state of the planet isn't actually addressing the cause. Which is switching from using plastic, single use plastics (like the straw the presenter used to drink his coconut from), and having laws to prevent companies from continually making the problem worse.\n\nWhy does nobody address the source issue?",
"Yes a landfill, on the land. A place where it won't kill the organism which produce half the oxygen of the world.",
"Also to be a realist, 30mil USD is nothing and they will probably fall short of their goal. Main reason being corruption and incompetence in the developing world. A large portion of that 30mil will be squandered. I know, I live in a developing country.",
"Scam...",
"This is like the 10th time this has been 'invented' and 'changing the world'..",
"How about instead of removing a tiny fraction of a percent of the trash in the ocean, they put that money into lobbying governments into enforcing stricter environmental policies. But I guess that doesn't make as catchy a video.",
"The alternative is using the money to lobby governments for stricter environmental regulations.",
"Because money.",
"beautiful reference",
"Because it's out of their scope, keep in mind they are just some youtubers, do you expect them to make laws or something? The best they can do is influence the people about the subject, while removing some plastic from the rivers while they're at it (a small percentage but still something) once the people are educated about this they can actually vote to address the root of the problem"
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