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https://youtu.be/RpFYfPRilB4	/r/videos/comments/qgiha0/its_occurred_to_me_that_many_of_you_has_not_been/	[ "lol. Creepy in a way for sure, but really amazing body animation.", "he's about to rape that chess.", "Thanks for bringing back a memory I had no intention of revisiting ever again", "pixar? Looks more like somthing from an Aardman and Dreamworks...", "Amazing is the word you choose to describe this?", "[there are many things that need to be erased](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efjjmpOVzRg&t=138s)", "I prefer Mouse Rat. It really isn’t the same without Andy there.", "I slammed my penis in the mouse trap", "No mouse would even be dazed from being hit with a broom.", "This reminded me of the ear scene in Reservoir Dogs for some reason.", "Probably the fear is the cheese's eyes", "THAT TRAUMATIZED you? Oh sit down for the story (commercial) of these poor Geckos.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/uVZyy7z6T1E" ]	12	videos	It's occurred to me that many of you has not been traumatized by this rat/mouse.
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qgir09/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qgir09/deleted_by_user/	[ "Remember when he lost a fight against a 14 year-old?", "Wait, what. I don't know the guy, I just found his bit on youtube and thought it was great. What happened?\n\n&#x200B;\n\nEdit: Nvm, found the vid, damn", "https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x44n5qe" ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qgizvo/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qgizvo/deleted_by_user/	[ "TLDW: Bad potatoes (nightshade) + no ventilation (cellar) = gaseous poison at high enough concentration to kill them.", "Absolutely. I've never realized this was possible. Though, I've always stored mine in a larger open area.", "Rule to live by: boil them, mash them, or stick them in a stew before it's too late.", "Store them in the garage just in case. Plenty of ventilation out there.", "3 minutes into the video and I've seen the same intro twice and a commercial for a bad looking mobile game." ]	5	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4P6E4TWGNo&ab_channel=NopeNoWay	/r/videos/comments/qgj75o/respiratory_therapist_freaks_out_after_being/	[ "Lmao. What a dumb fuck.", "\"Whatta they gonna do? Fire me?\"\n\ngets fired", "Boo fucking hoo", "You would think a REPIRATORY THERAPIST would be like \"oh fuck theres a highly infectious airborne virus causing worldwide problems. i should get this vaccine thats proven to work.\" Stupidity truly knows no bounds.", "I’m vaccinated. Was the first one In my shop to get vaccinated. Work in a hospital. Get this- one day soon, there is going to be a massive class action lawsuit about all this shit, and dudes like this are gonna get a massive payout", "lol no.", "Rule 7, man! Rule 7! Delete this, or the mods will do it for you.", "He’s a whiny crybaby who needs to get his priorities in order.", "lol. we’ll see.", "A special sort of stupid.", "Security guard was doing all of that while holding a loaf of bread. Lol", "Sure does", "You.... dont think.... a greater danger would be from hypothetical malpractice lawsuits if patients claim they got covid from their DOCTOR?!?!?!? I think.... even besides common sense n safety, the hospitals are also covering their ass from that ;)", "Its not about you!\n\nHow is that SO HARD to understand? \n\nSociety and its laws are about a balance between individuals and the group. In this case, the threat to the group is sufficient reason to violate the individual's freedom. \n\nThe same thing is true for any number of other things, from why you can't commit murder, to why seatbelts are mandatory. \n\nBy refusing vaccination, even if you arent PERSONALLY in danger of death, you make yourself a vector of contagion for other people who WOULD BE in danger of death or who cannot choose to vaccinate for a number of medical reasons (immune disorders, the very young, etc)\n\nAlso, the death rate (after contraction) in the USA is 1.7%. \n\nNot huge, but also, like, one in 60. VERY high compared to most things we encounter in life that could be avoided.", "Hmmm, I guess you’re right… I don’t suppose… people can still get Covid from their DOCTOR even if they were vaccinated…. look I’m not an anti-vaxxer. I’m not. What I’m saying here is things are very convoluted right now. Testing is all fucked up, the data we have is very incomplete. So many things. Dude, the vaccine hasn’t even been released to the public for a full year. It was December of last year, and testing started in I think April. Just sayin. Things are not as clear as you guys may think. Again I’m fully vaccinated and I’m not worried about it. There’s a lot at play here. And not all hesitation about a new vaccine is unfounded. I’ll make you all a bet right now, Republicans will sweep ‘22 and ‘24 as a result of a lot of this shit.", "Lol no. Do you know how long people have had to be vaccinated to work in certain industries? There will be no payout.", "You know that one co worker who thinks they're cool and everyone likes them? But everyone secretly hates them but doesn't want to say anything because the shift is hard enough without this guy running around crying that he's a victim? \n\nYeah thats this guy 100%", "not assault and not a public place, despite what the dude thinks its a private building", "Does... Does he think he's a victim? I mean it might be criminal that he was issued a license to practice medicine, but he's definitely not the victim here.", "Stupid can has any job", "> Get this- one day soon, there is going to be a massive class action lawsuit about all this shit, and dudes like this are gonna get a massive payout\n\nKeep on dreaming. It's up in the air whether or not this guy will even be eligible for unemployment.", "I know, and before this bullshit it was without question. But this vaccine is not those vaccines. This disease is not those diseases. Don’t be so sure. I’m not really sure about any of this, aside from some short sighted political fallout. It’s a real shame this was so politicized as it was. And we all know who to blame for that. Trump fo sho. Dems didn’t help. Things are changing very fast.", "Haha, what an idiot.", "Wow does it take practice to be that fucking dumb or are you a prodigy at it?", "There are no laws that would allow people to sue over this. Being unvaccinated is not a protected class.", "Read this in a Trump voice. Checks out. Decent portrayal.", "the experiment is over douche bag", "The mods here only enforce rule 1, and only when politics = threatening to Reddit sponsors/stakeholders.", "Did you mean \"i suppose people can still get covid from their doctor\" since... you agreed? Or... I'm confused. Because vaccines reduce chances of needing a hospital and not make you immune. Some people have health conditions that even if allowed the vaccine are at high risk + others that simply can't get it due to complications etc. \n\nI understand what you're saying about it possibly having side effects later, but..... it's been cleared by the FDA. And even still, you're just attributing the wrong weight values to the hypothetical repercussions. No one is going to go sterile or get a 5G chip in their head as a result. We're at LEAST 10 yrs off from THAT orwellian nightmare. ;)\n\nSo.... lets say.... some people get migranes 10 yrs from now. Kay. BUT...... imagine the malpractice lawsuits of a patient contacting covid and you know.... possibly DYING because they caught it from their un-vaxxed doctor. That's like.... what if a doctor decided to not wear gloves during open heart surgery. Even at 1-1 weight, it's still obvious that one is an obvious malpractice now, and one might be in 10 years? maybe? And.... pretty sure its not 1-1.", "That guy is eminently punchable.", "He’s a respiratory therapist, his patients are the kind of people in that .04%", "It is honestly scary how effective propaganda is.", "Quickly becoming my least favorite word of 2021\n\n&#x200B;\n\n\"eXpErImEnTaL\"", "I believe I am rich! Just checked my account and it looks like that ain't a fact.", "Then why do you keep playing to the anti-vaxx crowd? ~~You literally wrote these words in the last 6 hours~~\n\n> ~~Another great conspiracy theory is that the NIH and Doctor Fauci funded the Wuhan institute of virology where the virus definitely didn't leak from.~~\n\nI will take your bet for any amount, ~~you are delusional.~~\n\nEDIT: I apologize, he did not write that comment, as I said down below: \n> You are correct, I mistook your profile for that of PebbleAssEnder in this same comment thread. I apologize for putting words in your mouth.", "The way he pronounces the “T” in “assaulT” is strangely infuriating.", "Right, this disease is worse in how rapidly it spreads and this vaccine was more researched than any other vaccine that has ever been developed by humanity. So these anti-vaxxers don’t have a leg to stand on.", "He’s going to be a lawyer in the next phase of his career. Not a good one, but…", "Someone’s done their YouTube research.", "a nurse in a house hearing tried to prove the vaccine made her magnetic( [https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/558144-woman-fails-to-prove-the-covid-19-vaccine-made-her-magnetic-during-ohio](https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/558144-woman-fails-to-prove-the-covid-19-vaccine-made-her-magnetic-during-ohio) )\n\nI remember a UK doctor saying chicken nuggets helps autistic children ( [https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/brit-doctor-claims-vaccine-causes-22947795](https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/brit-doctor-claims-vaccine-causes-22947795) )", "plenty of schools and universities require certain vaccines for admittance. And have for decades. In the midst of a pandemic it makes sense to make vaccines mandatory for a certain medical profession. It's a no brainer.\n\n\nImagine if this was like the movie contagion type virus, and peoples insides were liquified like from ebola, maybe they would see it better. Instead people are suffocating to death and don't see it and think they can tough it out.", "People complain about vaccine mandates potentially causing staff shortages, but I have a feeling the patients are safer without these people treating them.", "Not anti-vax by any means, get your juice brother. But this reddit hive mind BS is just getting a little too out of hand.\n\nEdit: I see CDC updated a month ago saying the vaccine reduces transmission, so that's my bad on that part.", "Yeah I just looked that up, I literally had no clue. So that's my bad. Seems like they just discovered/published that a month ago though. That's a little weird. Before they said it had no effect on transmission.", "I'm sure there's precedent regarding non smoking areas. I'm sure smokers probably tried to sue to keep their rights to smoke around non-smokers but they lost that battle ultimately. I don't see this being that far removed from that situation.", "He's in the right place to call a Waaahmbulance", "Absolutely, but you can't compare vaccines that's been used for literal decades to these vaccines, that have been discovered AND used in what? The past year or two? I don't know, I'm not a scientist nor informed enough on this kinda deal. But ALL medications, vaccines, and whatnot require so much testing and TIME. Why does this one get a pass?", "It's honestly scary how many people in the medical field refuse the vaccine and are now crying victim because they were praised as heroes in the early days. Like yeah bro, no one expected you to do some dumb shit like refuse the vaccine.\n\nSeriously like 75% of the nurses and people who work in the healthcare field who I know in person don't have the vaccine and are getting ready to move to states without mandates.", "Liberty University is accepting checks, applications, and rapists.", "Oh look found one.", "I hope your name isn’t literal and you don’t travel ffs.", "Educated doesn’t always mean intelligent…", "This is the most bizarre thing ever, people working in a hospital and denying science… wtf", "You said something factually incorrect. Then looked it up, apologized, and changed your view in light of that new information. I wish more people could conduct themselves like that.", "I can already hear him pulling people aside and dragging them into a conversation about the upcoming deadline for covid vaccination\n\n\"It's bullshit this mandate they're making about vaccinations, right??\"", "I'm grateful to hospitals doing this. It's exposing people that should not be in the healthcare industry in the first place. If there were someone not willing to get vaxxed by now, with all the successful numbers, I sure as hell wouldn't want them treating me. I'm actually going for a small procedure tomorrow that has a level of danger to it. The last thing I want to worry about is some fuck giving me COVID because of a hissy fit.", "Sure. There are pointless lawsuits that happen every day. It doesn't validate anything. I could sue you for making this comment. How far would it go?", "Why is everyone attacking the guy in the comments. He was probably visibly upset of losing his Job. People have their opinions on the vaccine, but weird how everyone attacks an individual for his opinions. Maybe he wants to wait for all of the side affects to be tweeked out. Don't bother giving me hate mail I won't judge you if you did or did not get the Vaccine yet. Blame the media not the individuals.", "Good for us we don't have to give a flying fuck about what you think.", "This looks like the kind of asshole that just breathes out that gross ass spearmint gum smell way too close to you.", "Not an MD. You can become an RT through community college.", "The terrifying thing about this is the implication as to the power of the propaganda, the indoctrination that these people received into the belief system where the vaccine is somehow evil, ineffective or a matter of personal choice. The fact that this was propaganda was effective with medical professionals is horrifying.", "> I'm not a scientist nor informed enough on this\n\nThis alone can answer your question. \nPlenty of other countries, and scientists have spent thousands of manhours to rush out this vaccine for the benefit of the world. Your argument is 'TIME' however they have spent the time to do it, just normally in non-pandemic situations there isn't any monetary benefit to rush out a vaccine. \n\nBefore making some opinion on the internet on your thoughts on a vaccine, you should refine and research what and how these vaccines have come to fruition in a short 2 year timeframe.", "This guy knows better. You’re not on public property, it’s private. He knows video recording within a hospital is a violation of HIPAA. My man refuses to get vaccinated even though he encounters numerous patients per day who have compromised respiratory systems. You can’t convince the willfully ignorant.", "It's HIPAA!", "It’s a four year degree. Let’s not disparage the whole profession over this one twat (I’m not British I just feel like it was the most appropriate word)", "What a dickbag", "The schadenfreude is so thick I had trouble understanding some of the words.", "It's not a 4 year degree everywhere. Good friend is licensed after a year local medical program", "They want to be the victim so fucking bad man", "This is an adult baby having a temper tantrum. Who the fuck goes into medicine believing vaccinations are untested poison. What a cunt.", "Why is it always these kind of people who repeatedly say they are being assaulted? Is it there victim mentality? He just kept saying it over and over again.", "I did not write those words.", "Lol.", "> Before they said it had no effect on transmission.\n\nWho are \"they\" that said this?", "No.", "Meh, only a 1% fired rate.\n\nI'll take my chances with...er...wait.", "Well, the states without mandates are going to need medical personnel most, so... 6D Chess, but with more death and last minute deniers-turned-believers when the vent rolls into the room. It's amusing how quickly they go from hating the \"experimental vaccine\" to then begging for actual experimental treatments like monoclonal antibodies.\n\nWhy so many nurses and EMTs getting caught up in this mix? I think that career choice simply accumulates people with the ideal combination of intellect and ignorance. Smart enough to \"know\", but too stupid to think. The Dunning-Kruger cognitive bias as a job title, essentially.", "In my experience, a 4 year degree far from guarantees critical thinking skills or a solid understanding of medical science.", "You're nearly there. Almost. Now, if everyone got the vaccine? YOU is fucking everyone. Big brain.", "Rubbish.", "They should have came up with this test decades ago for medical workers. \n\nFirst question: Do you believe in science?\n\nIf No please look into other work. If yes see question 2\n\nSecond question: Do you believe in science that the majority say is correct or just what Fox news says?", "You know there are doctor's that don't believe in this stuff. A college degree shows hard work not critical thinking.", "If there is anything about the pandemic that is positive, it's that it flushing idiots like this out of their jobs in Healthcare, law enforcement and other public sector jobs.", "I guess it’s not that hard to become a respiratory therapist.", "And how will they win? You can be fired for dress code and health reasons.", "Should have happened a long time ago...this shit has gone on too long.", "Good news, they just approved the vaccine for ages 5-11 so this guy can get one now", "Bon voyage!", "They will sweep 22 because that is how elections tend to work. We vote in one batch of idiots then get mad they are dumb. So we vote some idiots in. \n\n24' is to far away. WW3, civil war or an asteroid can change everything. Hey maybe even I don't know a pandemic. We had this one guy who could have glided into reelection. But instead decided to lie, and BS.", "That's someone that didn't hear a lot of \"no\" growing up. What an entitled douchebag.", "Likewise!", "You know that there are other percentages than zero and 100, right? Being vaccinated does not 100 percent guarantee that you will not contact or spread this virus, that's true. But it does make it a *hell of a lot harder.* And if all of us who are able to get the vaccine do get it, we can effectively eradicate the virus. The longer people hold out, the easier the virus spreads, the more it mutates, the less effective vaccines could be. So if you get vaccinated now, you can help prevent that scenario.", "It's an example of evocation. If you say something over and over again, the brain starts to automatically make it \"more real.\" This is true for positive thinking, such as \"I can do it!\" but it applies just as well for advertising, such as Frosted Flakes \"They'rrrrre GREAT!\", or people in crisis \"This isn't happening!\", or football chants, or religious hymns. Human brains are vastly more plastic than they think they are.", "I’m not sure where you live or how you know such a staggering amount of ignorant medical personnel but as a paramedic in Canada I can say firsthand that your 85% figure does not reflect reality at all.", "I know you think that switcheroo is some super clever rhetorical jujitsu, but your problem is the data doesn't support what you believe.", "What do I believe?", "The part that gets me... They all have this confused look on their face when presented with the consequences to their actions. They think they can do and say anything they want and if someone tries to stop them they throw a baby tantrum like this. Its fucking embarrassing he should be ashamed but he's so incapable of examining his own beliefs and behavior he only feels indignant. Its sad.", "my current practice is \"(inhale) i can only control my own actions (exhale) i cannot control the actions of others\"\n\nBUT COME THE FUCK ONNNN", "Bye Felicia.", "What a dumb ass.", "Odd how this guys says it's \"experimental.\" The BLA review for the Pfizer vaccine is literally [publicly posted by the FDA](https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/comirnaty). He can always just go there and read the damn documents. The only reason Moderna and J&J don't have it is simply because FDA is a bit busy and Pfizer submitted their application first. It takes months to get one of these reviewed (usually like 6-8 months), even the ones that are expedited take at least 3-4 months.", "If you're an RT then you should know how devastating COVID has been. What an asshole.", "You know a weird and dangerous subset of people in the medical industry. The percentages\n of medical professionals who refuse the vaccine is very very small.", "different populations value different things. I almost canceled my 2nd dose on principle because it's being mandated under threat in Canada now, and since medical treatments must be administered with the conscent of the patient, it is no longer possible to get the vaccine with conscent by definition. \nI still got it because i got my appointment before they started pushing this shit, but i was very close to canceling. Liberty is more important than safety.", "oh but some states are gonna make it easier only to make a point.", "Just to be clear:\n\nHe's on private property regardless of being inside the building and outside of it where the grass and benches are, right?\n\nAnd can the security guard use physical force to remove him from the premises?", "it's the consequences of the governor's decision though.", "I don't think there are very many things that have been tested as much as the vaccines at this point. Billions of patients? Seems like an acceptable sample size.", "[\"Hmmm, today I'm 16 and I wanna be political.\"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJmvMyptrxo)", "14th grade yo.", "You know seatbelts don't stop people from dying in car crashes, right? You know washing your food doesn't stop people from getting food poisoning, right?", "The democratically elected governor. They didn't inherit the position through blood. They were elected by the people to make those decisions.", "You're right no one is responsible for obeying laws they disagree with", "hopefully at this point they've been fired.", "Ah. Good one.\n\n\n\n\n\n? Lol", "Doesn’t make you think at all? Just judge? Wouldn’t he have a better first-hand account of the damage and severity, since it’s literally his job, and subjected himself to all of it through the pandemic, then gets fired once policies change, that didn’t stop him from working during the peak of it? No? Nothing?", "somehow a slap seems more appropriate for him", "\"This is ridiculous.\"\n\nNo, HE is.", "Do you drive without a seatbelt too? You should, because of all that liberty. Or why not one better, if your lane looks like it's backed up at the light, why not just going into oncoming traffic?, it's your liberty. Those other people you might hit? fuck em! it's your liberty. Bonus points for firing a gun in random directions while driving, because it's fun.", "What the FRICK!", "You would think someone so concerned with consent would be able to spell it properly", "Disgusted by the comments in this thread. I'm vaccinated but I don't care what people do. It's on them.", "All deserved to him.", "It’s a big assumption to think that anti-vax propaganda is what large amounts of public service, health professionals, etc. believe to make them refuse this. So much so, that it seems in your post you can barely believe it. Maybe there’s more to it than that, esp seeing as they ARE in fact people directly involved with covid and its patients. \n\nNot trying to swing you or this any one way or the other, just challenging the assumptions.", "Only when it fits their personal bias/assumption of the “truth”.", "UCLA property extends to the sidewalk. Hes on the private property until he gets to the curb. THIS is why any protests have to stay on the sidewalk during a protest. He was fired and was asked to leave the grounds….filming on private property, as well as filming/pictures of any person working is prohibited because of their security access badges. You doubt? Try walking up to a nurse and try to take a picture of their badge and see how quickly they will cover it because said badge is used to access Medical Terminals. \n\nThis dude should not be working at this place and I’m glad he is no longer.", "Been saying the same, to try and sew at least a few seeds of rationalism and critical thinking. But broad assumptions, a lack of empathy and adherence to “science” like its religion as opposed to the ever changing and exists-to-prove-itself-wrong idea of what science actually is, all born out of fear, is a rough endeavor.", ">It's called a public place.\n\nDude doesn't know literally the first thing about where he works. \n\nThese medical workers refusing the vaccine really shows the difference between education and intelligence. These people are trainable, but not fixable.", "Because spelling is mandated by threat, it is no longer possible to spell properly with concent.", "How quickly you ostriches turned on these people saving us from the worst virus in history.", "That reddit is provax? You fuckin serious? \n\nThe entire damn media is provax. The last time there was this much agreement in the media, we invaded Iraq. HOOAH", "Choosing is an action. There was a choice. He chose wrong.", "Well he’s only partly wrong, because it’s written into the development contract for these vaccines that the companies can’t be sued for the vaccine’s shortcomings or anything it causes. So that should probably raise some red flags. But it’s cool, because “science” can never be wrong. Praise be unto “science”. The subject that never changes or grows or proves itself wrong to make itself better with better data or more study!", ">information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.\n\nSharing data about the safety and efficacy of vaccines is none of those things", "Lol, no.", "It's not up in the air at all, he's not eligible for unemployment. He got fired for cause for violating company policy.\n\nSame thing would have happened had he refused to get vaccinated for all the other stuff required to work in a hospital.", "Cult knows no bounds...", "I'd say my covid shots were about as bad as the flu shot I just got. These anti-vaxxers are just pussies.", "Darren...the vaccine is not experimental, over 1/2 the country has taken the jab, twice. At least he stands up for what he believes in, I'm sure hospitals in Florida will want to give him a bonus and have them come work there.", "As a nurse I was required to be vaccinated for Hepatitis B, Influenza, Measles, mumps, rubella, Varicella, Tetanus, Diphtheria, Pertussis, Pneumonia and \nMeningitis. Health care workers have no basis to refuse an additional vaccine and they have no legal standing to do so. I'm sure he agreed to vaccinate for the job.", "\"What the hell is this?! The CONSEQUENCES of my actions?!?\"", "There is a lot of incompetent people doing a job they shouldn't be doing.", "How can she slap?!?", ">Requiring a vaccine for work is so fucking brain dead to me.\n\nLots of vaccines are required to work in a hospital, have been for decades.\n\n>Just because you're vaccinated doesn't mean you can't spread the virus. \n\nSame goes for virtually any vaccine.\n\n>All it does is help reduce symptoms of it for YOU.\n\nNo, it makes you far less likely to catch it, thus far less likely to spread it because you're not infected.", "Working remotely rn and I can t wait to get back in an office just for this drama. I miss it \n\n\n:(", "People do not go to the hospital to get sick.. period.", "Since your username is 0 is 1 I'm going to guess you aren't the best with numbers", "LPT: dont record yourself acting like a total tampon. Theres enough people willing to do that for you!", "739 thousand. Ah wait, shit, that's some other number, probably not important. What was your number again?", ">Maybe he wants to wait for all of the side affects to be tweeked out.\n\nAnd that's fine. He can wait while not being employed as a respiratory therapist in a hospital.\n\nAnd also not being a goddamn baby when the consequences people have been warning you about for months come to pass.", "Is it's over 600,000?", "I don't care what he does either, as long as he's not working in a hospital full of vulnerable people.", "As long as it's not the state I live in, they're welcome to these assholes. It's like a reverse brain drain.", "Hold on. You made the appt to get the second jab. So you decided you should get it but because the government also thought you should get it you reconsidered. You consider this a threat to liberty? You were already going to get it....", "I sure autistic children fucking love chicken nuggets so are happy with theory.", ">almost canceled my 2nd dose on principle\n\nLol, what principle is that exactly?", "\"More than 414 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through October 25, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 9,143 reports of death (0.0022%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines.\"\n\n\nThe answer to your question is zero. Zero deaths have been confirmed to have a causal link with the vaccine.", ">You know how many deaths have been linked in some way to these vaccines?\n\nLike a couple hundred? Maybe? Out of hundreds of millions of people who were vaccinated.\n\nYou don't have any idea how VAERS works.", "My sister just saw an Np, my nephew was diagnosed with Covid today. Their opinion was that it would fine for him to go out trick or treating if he wore a mask 🤦‍♂️ people just don’t understand, and when healthcare professionals drop the ball what are normal people supposed to do.\n\nEdit:\nI was able to tell my sister this was a bad idea and she is not taking him trick or treating. But at first, since the NP had said it was fine , she was going to. Normal people rely on health care professionals to tell them what is right and wrong in these situations. I basically told her, that was not cdc guidelines, and this NP was using opinion and not guidelines/evidence.", "These people have always been with us. This is just their latest issue. They were dicks before and they’re being dicks now.", "Considering not doing something you were going to do because someone told you do it after you’d already made the decision to do it. You sound like a fucking child. Child.", ">are getting ready to move to states without mandates.\n\n90% of them won't when push comes to shove.", "This shit stain will be on Newsmax by the end of the week. Maybe that was his plan.", "The medical profession is like any other. You have people who are good at it, people who scrape by with minimal effort and those who really shouldn't be doing the job at all.", "Buh bye", "Good luck getting his next job, this video is gonna follow him.", "True, but you would also need to think about the hospital just lost somebody who has been doing everything to the hospital has asked and has followed all safety protocols since the pandemic started. ERs are have 8 hour waits to be seen and urgent cares around 3 hours just to be seen. What would have changed if he stayed in his job until December? I don't think anything, but that is my opinion and yes he should have walked out. But if it is public property then he shouldn't be forced out. I don't know details on the property but hey. Have a great week stay safe.", "Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face…", "ICU Nurse here. I bet he was a Gemmm to work with!", "If you're speeding and get a ticket, is it:\n\na: your own fault for speeding\n\nb: the police officer's fault for pulling you over\n\nc: the governor's fault for signing the anti-speeding legislation into law", "There have been literally zero confirmed causal links between covid vaccines and death. However, this guy has absolutely no interest in the answer; he's just pissing into the wind.", "Just one little touch of critique. Throw the link in there for good measure.", "Why can't he get regular tests?\n\nEdit: You're all gross", "I thought there'd been a handful of people who threw those super weird cerebral clots that were almost certainly linked to the vaccine, chance of like one in 2 million or something.\n\nBut yeah, it's likely that act of driving to get your vaccine is far more likely to get you killed than the vaccine itself.", "I never get a reaction from the flu shot but the covid shot and booster made me feel like crap for a day. There's definitely some side effects from the vaccine, but in most cases is similar to a short cold. I'm also an RN and totally believe anyone who believes anti vaccine nonsense should not be in health care. I'd rather work severely short than with these idiots. The vaccine isn't scary, covid is.", "You know the whitehouse has a youtube channel and MSM also have youtube channels?", "He's a respiratory therapist, not a doctor. Don't be silly.", ">who has been doing everything to the hospital has asked and has followed all safety protocols since the pandemic started\n\nOh I don't know about that. These folks don't tend to be good and normal and just have this one weird blind spot.\n\nPlus, getting vaccinated against covid is part of the safety protocol.\n\n>What would have changed if he stayed in his job until December?\n\nHe could have infected and killed a patient.\n\n>But if it is public property then he shouldn't be forced out.\n\nDon't worry, it's not.", "You realize VAERS is self-reported and doesn't require any testing or confirmation, right? The point of VAERS is to parse all the data that happens around vaccinations to see if there's a large blip showing a correlation. So far, there hasn't been anywhere near enough.", "I laughed all the way through this. I do wish this man luck in his new career at the finest Dollar Store in whatever city he lives in", "Yup, I will say I felt the covid one more but I'm off work this week so I had more time to feel like a bump on a log after my flu shot.", "> Just like those idiots who said they'd move to Canada if Trump is elected\n\nI think the bigger idiots were the ones who were going to move to Canada because Obama was elected and was going to bring \"socialized healthcare\" to the US.", "> So I assume you all know about the VAERS statistics, right? You know how many deaths have been linked in some way to these vaccines? Yeah? You can probably even tell me the number.\n\nVAERS is an unvalidated data pool to which anyone can submit, hence the name:\n\nVaccine Adverse Event *Reporting* System\n\nResearchers then look at the pool of data for trends and then construct robust observational or experimental studies to pinpoint what's actually going on. VAERS is meaningless on its own because anyone can submit bad, unvalidated data to it, and this frequently happens because your average person (literally anyone can submit to VAERS, and everyone's instructed to do so) doesn't have the core medical expertise needed to understand e.g that a vaccine can't make someone magnetic. Or give someone autism.\n\ntl;dr: anyone can send literally anything they want to VAERS; it's up to the researchers to sift through it and discern actual risks from things that lay people thought were related but weren't.\n\n---\n\nYou're getting torn up by the others, but I suspect there's a chance you really didn't know what I just laid out above, so I figured I'd just use it as a teaching moment. Hopefully this proves helpful for you.", "In honest discourse, you are correct. However, this guy is clearly not asking in good faith. Also, it's literally the first search result.", "This guy wants to be unvaccinated around people that already have breathing issues.", "Imagine being the first ME to put \"vaccine\" as cause of death 😓\n\nAlso, don't bother posting the link. It's obvious bullshit when I can already spot the flaw. Hint: Deaths/doses is not the metric you want to be using--not when you're quoting percentages.", "As a fellow RT, he deserved it.", "Yeah but I was talking about the rabbit hole of dumb YouTube that most of these anti-VAX people go down.\n\nAnd I suspect you knew that already.", "Byyyyyye 🙋‍♂️", "We’re going through this right now. All the unvaxxed were sent packing yesterday. They asked the vaxd to walk out in support of them and it felt good. I really needed that laugh", "Correct, wearing seatbelts, washing your food, and getting vaccinated all don’t protect other people.", "Pandemic kills millions\n\nEnjoy\\_erik: Look the science could be wrong. Maybe the pandemic isn't the cause! We should wait a few more decades before we decide anything. Science can be wrong! You guys ever hear of Galileo?", "Yeah, that route holds the most likely link between the vaccines and death, but it's still at this point only a probable relationship. Even in those instances, however, it may be a case of \"the cake made the diabetes worse, but the diabetes is still what kills the patient.\" The potential exacerbation of a pre-existing condition, rather than an inherent danger of the product.", "Super annoying guy and of course guy is acting up for his instagram video. \n\nBut holy shit man why do the security guard try to thug out. He doesn't have to. Why the theater like he tries to do the voice like a cop, tries to enunciate like blooockking patient care. Some dumb mofo. Wtf hahahaha. Security guard has full authority. Just tell the therapist guy like hey man we have to force you out sorry about that. Just walk him out. He is not gonna stand there all day. \n\nEvery single pd video (and security guard too sometimes) get into the loser mode really fast when someone doesn't listen to them. Its not a power play you morons. Well it is sort of but not your personal power play. Always the wrong-est people get hired for these jobs. The wrong people look for the job for that power play and when someone breaks that dynamic they just go insane. \n\nI support vax mandate btw.", "Since he doesn't work there anymore, it's not really a HIPAA violation.", "Credit to you for updating your opinion with new information.", "I know about it, and it's [false](https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-usa-idUSL1N2R00KP)", "I wish I could understand him, though. What could possibly induce a respiratory therapist to reject a vaccine? I would imagine this guy has seen so many people die of COVID. I'm glad that he's not involved in patient care anymore, but I wish I could know why.", "Yeah, cdc.gov is deeply untrustworthy. I answered your bad faith question. Have a nice night.", "Oh absolutely, I agree. The proximate cause is very unlikely to be the vaccine all by its lonesome.", "You or I can go to VAERS right now and fill out a form saying that someone got the vaccine and died. As a matter of fact, because of right wing trolls the VAERS information related to Covid vaccines is an absolute shitstorm of false records and has zero relation to the safety of them in the real world. \n\nThat you would cite VAERS as a primary source actually tells anybody with an inkling of how it works that you do not know shit about the vaccines' safety.", "Because he works with an extremely vulnerable population and tests aren't good enough to be even close to perfect.\n\nEverybody who met with Trump got tested every single day with a rapid PCR, and they still all managed to get quite ill.", "> He's on private property regardless of being inside the building and outside of it where the grass and benches are, right?\n\nYes. The hospital property likely extends all the way out to the sidewalk, so would include the front of the building as well as the parking lot.", ".....respiratory therapist....\n\nThis is what happens when these jobs are educated like a trade. Push this button, attach that thing. Technical only, no medical concepts, no critical thinking. You get these numbers of people who don't understand how vaccines work, don't grasp basic science.", "\\surprised pickachu face\\", "Why even engage in the conversation when you obviously abhor the idea of changing your worldview based on verifiable facts and statistics? You asked for data, you got data (which incidentally contradicts your priors) and you continue fail to absorb the information, process it, or even acknowledge its validity. Stop moving the goalposts.", "We need to talk about the word \"linked\" because I think it's doing some pretty heavy lifting in your above post and I its use suggest you might be misunderstanding how VAERS works.\n\nVAERS reports do not prove causality. Quite the opposite, actually. A VAERS report is filed each and every time anyone experiences an adverse event that occurred around the time that person got vaccinated specifically because we don't know if the vaccine caused the event. \n\nThe act of reporting an adverse event does not in any way suggest a \"link\" between the vaccine and the event other than happening near each other in time.\n\nDon't take my word for it. You can read the reporting guidelines yourself. They're actually written in plain English and quite easy to understand: [https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccine-adverse-events/vaccine-adverse-event-reporting-system-vaers-questions-and-answers#reporting](https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccine-adverse-events/vaccine-adverse-event-reporting-system-vaers-questions-and-answers#reporting)\n\nHere's a particularly worthwhile excerpt:\n\n>What events should be reported to VAERS?\r \n\r \nVAERS encourages the reporting of any significant adverse event occurring after the administration of any vaccine licensed in the United States. You should report any significant adverse event *even if you are unsure whether a vaccine caused the event.\n\nThe point is, time is the only* link that generates the reports. No other factors are considered at all when it comes to simply filing the report. Anyone can file a report any time any adverse event happens and deaths are a mandatory report. That's about it.\n\nSo then let's bring this back to death.\n\nDoes the VAERS database include reports of death following vaccination? Absolutely. Lots of them. Does this mean the vaccine causes death? Absolutely not.\n\nWhat's important isn't any individual report, it's the aggregation of all the reports when filtered by different population segments and compared against a baseline population segmented the same way.\n\nIn other words, if 20,000 people died after vaccination, that doesn't really mean anything at all if the 20,000 people also died in a comparable population who didn't get vaccinated.\n\nThis is how VAERS is used, by comparing against a baseline population segment that matches those experiencing adverse events to see if the adverse events are happening at elevated rates compared to baseline, and if so, to understand exactly what the risk is.\n\nThe CDC page explains this quite well and even gives exact numbers for how many deaths are in VAERS while explicitly calling out the fact that scientists have been studying VAERS data and found no causal link between the vaccines and death.\n\n[https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html](https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html)\n\nVAERS proved quite robustly that the vaccines do not place anyone at an increased risk of death, however, the VAERS data did prove that there are rare but serious side effects worth noting, but certainly not worth avoiding vaccination for. It's also is how we came to understand the true magnitude of the elevated risk of myocarditis that had everybody panicking recently, which, spoiler alert, is not that big of a risk to anyone and the narrow population that's even at elevated risk skews extremely heavily towards younger males which respond well to treatment and is especially easy to live with now that we understand the risk much better.\n\ntl;dr: VAERS reports of death don't mean the vaccine caused the death. It's the analysis of the entire data set that would prove it if such a causal link existed. They've analyzed the data. Such a causal link does not exist. The vaccines don't cause death.", "You believe a bunch of stuff on /r/conspiracy apparently.\n\nSeek help. Especially if you have a family history.", "If a redo therapist doesn’t get the point he’s CLEARLY with an idiot, shit disturber or both. You just solved a second problem.", "There’s a lot of dumbass doctors too, and a lot of fields that scoff at people thinking doctors are smart. It’s all relative, and they’re all human, capable of bias, human behavior, and doing a job badly.", "I hear many McDonald's are short staffed...oh, wait...you have to be vaxed to work there, too.", "Some heroes don't wear capes... \n\n\n \n\n\n \n\n\n \n.... just fuckin' with ya, this guy's a pansy ass dweeb! haha", "randy marsh loses his job", "it's a consequence of his decision.", "Even besides just the possibility of getting COVID, if someone treating me was willing to deny years of research to the point of refusing something as simple as a vaccination to ensure protection of their patients, I'd be worried as hell about what other things they're choosing to ignore in their education and practice.", "Moving the goalpasts = asking for accurate statistics 🤣", "Good.\n\nSomeone in medical should know better and get vaccinated.", "You still don't see it? 😳", "HA! Wtf is false? VAERS? \n\n\"Doesn't matter what number you say, it's FALSE!\" \n\nHoly shit people...", "I had to re-read your post several times.\n\n\\Shakes head\\", "I don’t know, trick or treating is really low risk if you’re doing it by yourself and you don’t have a bad cough. It’s all outdoors, you’re only interacting with people for 2 seconds, and he’s going to be wearing a (snug-fitting) mask. But I would probably err on the side of caution and tell them not to go. We’re going to be wearing masks while trick or treating and while handing out candy.", "Unfortunately, it's up to the police that show up on whether or not the [\"I'm not touching you!\" (finger 1cm from your eyeball)] type of space violation is worth the effort. if you're the wrong color/gender/class, youre shit out of luck.", "Wut", "I'm saying the article saying the vaccine has killed 150000 people based on VAERS data is a lie, which I know is what you were actually on about. The actual number is 3. Someone didn't read the article I posted because they thought they were smart.", "Right? There was some dumbass on here claiming he was a respiratory therapist bragging about not getting the vaccine. Dumbasses like that have no place in a hospital.", "So does the vaccine prevent people from contracting covid19? If not does it prevent people from infecting others?\n\nI am honestly curious if the vaccine prevents covid 19 from spreading.", "You were provided with accurate statistics, your head is just so far up your ass you can't see anything but shit.", "\"I'm tired. I think I'll have a nap.\" \n \n\"So go have a nap.\" \n \n\"I don't want to!\"", "When you see the \"big\" numbers of people in a hospital refusing them you need to look at the wording carefully as it usually includes everyone from the medical staff to the cafeteria personnel and department admins. \n\nA friend who is a nurse said that the doctors and RNs where she works are all vaccinated, the CNAs have some who have been or need to be talked off the ledge, but the overwhelming majority of those who are refusing have no medical training.", "So your contention is that people are in fact overreporting adverse reactions?\n\nSeriously?\n\n\"Getting torn up by the others\" God damn, you kids and your complete investment in social media. Grow up and walk away from the computer. There's an entire world waiting out there for you. Hope you take advantage of it before it's too late, and that is advice I should be taking myself!", "Listen I get the fact that people can go unmasked when vaccinated AND not infected.... but that kid was infected, and there is a small window where he could infect others.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nLet him stay indoors for a bit, recover, and possibly prevent a nearby immunocompromised person from getting killed.", "more them a year unvaccinated, doing fine.", "75%. Sad. Where are you at?", "My mom went to the hospital due to dementia, left in a body bag due to covid.\n\nI went there once to see her and say good bye. I couldn't be there with her due to covid. The thought of her dieing alone haunts me to this day.", "Not for me =)", "HOW. DID. THEY. PASS. SCHOOL?\n\n&#x200B;\n\nLike seriously this should be grounds for revoking their degrees.", "Good riddance asshole. \"Experimental jab\" which apparently 40 years of MRNA development is experimental. Dumbass!", "Bye Felicia!", "How old? How healthy?", "You seriously can't see it? Gdamn reddit...", "I can guarantee people like this grew up with parents that only ever gave them empty threats then gave in after the third time...or when the tears started.", "150000? 3??? WTF are you on about?", "Brilliant contribution 👍", "Where can I find more videos of people getting fired for refusing the covid vaccine?", "I regret that I have but one upvote to give this interpretation of this situation. 🙌", "Well I hope you don't drive a car then, because your risk of death while driving is way higher than death from any vaccine.", "Okay, let me break this down because reading what I linked is apparently too complex a task: there's an article going around among anti-vax groups stating that it used VAERS data to show the the COVID-19 vaccine has killed around 150,000 people. This is a lie. There are only three confirmed cases of the 390 million vaccines given out of death caused by the vaccine, which is what we refer to as a \"statistical anomoly\" and nothing more.", "I'm sorry.", "Imagine thinking it’s a good idea to fire trained and accredited healthcare workers during a pandemic because of your feeling of moral superiority. Emerging super powers are laughing at us right now, hard. Do not be surprised when these professionals divest and expatriate and your state is left with a deficit, and all you can do is scream for the national guard to come save your stupid asses.", "I'm sorry Parler shut down. I'm sure you enjoyed that echo chamber immensely.", "imagine being so fucking stupid as to thinking a vaccine has anything the fuck to do with moral superiority and not HEALTHCARE during a pandemic", "r/covidfiringporn ?", "I have but silver but this is gold.", "Of course you have to resort to your absurd delusions. First time I ever heard about Parler was from someone like you, in a thread like this. Amazing how you types love to project the same bullshit, time after time. Doesn't change the fact that I've still never bothered to check it out.", "> So your contention is that people are in fact overreporting adverse reactions?\n> \n> Seriously?\n\nYes because people are being instructed to report *anything* so that if something pops up that wasn't picked up during the phase 2/3 trials, it can be investigated. \n\nThat's literally the point. Over-reporting is by design, and it's in fact the only design to surface potential risks that might otherwise not be uncovered. That's why VAERS cannot be used to draw conclusions; it's only used to identify topics for further research.\n\nEdit: \n\n> Even the CDC admits that the VAERS isn't at all close to 100%...\n\nNot sure you realize that you're agreeing with what I'm saying. lol but here's a great example of the kinds of things you can expect to see in VAERS that are meaningless until validated via research:\n\nhttps://twitter.com/choo_ek/status/1453276479421358084", "Lmao he has earned those tear by choosing ignorance and worshiping stupidity.", "LoL, you got all of that from that short video?", "Hahaha suck dicks bro", "Just because you're a therapist doesn't mean you can't be a bitch. \nWho paid for your schooling man!?", "Ya. I wish that existed", "If the virus can't propagate in you, you obviously spread the virus far less, just because there is far less of it in you. A lot of the science and data around viruses and vaccines is very advanced and difficult, but not this part.", "Ok. I created it. How do I make you a mod?", "By the way, people can totally see everything you've ever posted on Reddit if they want to...\n\nWe can tell that you're either a troll or a troglodyte.", "No big loss, someone who is vaccinated will replace him in his role.", "Fuck that guy, how did he even get that job. Look at him spit \"PUBLIC PROPERTY\" without his mask on like he has no concept of how his own respiration actually works.", "\"I am on public property!\" \\is inside of the exterior building columns\\", "Nailed it!", "Glad I’m not his patient. If he practices in the confident yet incorrect way he asserts to know the law and the status of vaccines, he’s likely the same way when it comes to medical professionalism.", "Looks to me like the vax mandate is working as intended.\n\nHe needs to learn the phrases\n\n Would you like fries with that? \n\nand\n\nSmall , medium , or large drink?", "I'm amazed they even admitted 3. But are you at all familiar with the concept of a 'straw man argument'? Because you just did it 100%. You're never going to get anywhere if you're arguing against your own projection. \n\nLook carefully at what I wrote and then read your response again. Maybe it'll click this time.", "Sir, this is salt, I am a salting you, I'm hungry", "The pediatric burn unit is, sadly, full", "How many is it? Provide a link with your answer.", "Also as a fellow RT, yes he did.", "What a fucking crybaby. \"Assault\", heh.", "\"any vaccine\" \n\nIt's like a magical spell now. Call something a vaccine and it can DO NO WRONG.", "I just wish they would do the same to patients that refused to get vaccinated.", "You are correct, I mistook your profile for that of PebbleAssEnder in this same comment thread. I apologize for putting words in your mouth.\n\nI am still up for taking that bet tho.", "Cite your sources or STFU.", "You would think. I have been surprised as to how many of my colleagues feel the same as this guy tho. Propaganda works on all kinds.", "So you have absolutely nothing but baseless paranoid speculation?\n\nYeah, That's what I thought.", "Why are you still trying to tell the lie that covid cases were inflated?", "The stupidity, you can actually see it in his eyes.", "He was a respiratory therapist. During a viral pandemic that attacks the respiratory system. Demanding to keep working with people who are the most vulnerable to it, while choosing not to protect himself and his patients from it.\n\nHonestly it is amazing that people can choose to keep spreading a deadly pandemic in general. Doing that in a hospital, working with respiratorily compromized patients, takes it all the way to the last level.", "It’d be more concerning if they didn’t fire him. It’s a big hospital in a very big city - there’s bound to be an asshole here and there.", ">The last thing I want to worry about is some fuck giving me COVID because of a hissy fit.\n\nYou know people without COVID cannot give you COVID, right?\n\nYou know that vaccinated people can give you COVID, right?", "Someone should threaten him with a suit on possible HIPAA violations (it's why you shouldn't record video or take pictures in common hallways or other places where you might record a patient in hospitals).", ">refusing something as simple as a vaccination to ensure protection of their patients\n\nI thought it was the patient's vaccination that protected them.\n\nDoes the vaccine not protect against the virus?", "r/byebyejob", "One gilding coming up", "I would be critical of any health advice you get from a nurse practitioner. I think doctors despite what they’re political beliefs are, are well trained enough to practice evidence based care I can’t say the same about nps who don’t go through a scientifically rigorous training and aren’t held to the same standards as a board certified md", "The fact that you give credence to our 'political parties' tells me more than you seem to realize. \n\nOh btw--$33 billion. Per year. And that's just for Pfizer.", "you are advocating a COVID positive person to go door to door trick or treating? are you fucking mental?", "Rule number 7, \"no videos of assault or public freakouts.\"\n\nHmm.", "This guy sounds exactly like someone doing a character for a bit about oblivious Karens. But of course being an oblivious Karen he wasn't self aware enough to realize that.", "if you don't believe in medicine you shouldn't be allowed to practice medicine.", "I hate these fucking babies", "I'm a Rad Tech and for some reason never realized that respiratory therapists both use RT. That seems like it would get confusing.", "What a cunt.", "lol", "No, I'm not doing the work for you.", "It's not an experimental vaccine - it has full FDA approval. That makes it no different than any of the other vaccines that can be required for employment.\n\nAlso, pro tip: if you're getting fired for something, even if you think it's wrong, don't record it on video and share it on the internet. Chances are, you're getting fired for good reason. Even if you're not, once it's on the internet, it's there for every prospective employer to find the moment they Google your name. If you want to preserve your future changes of gainful employment, keep your shit off the net.", "If I knew why would I be asking?", "Came to see the fuckery in the comment section. I’m not disappointed", "That's a shame, you might have made a friend there.", "The answer is very simple: politics", "Exactly what I went off on my neighbor about, \"2.8 BILLION (1 does, at the time) isn't a large enough sample size for you?!\"", "You’ll be downvoted to hell and back for talking about this. It’s very real.", "I’m so sorry.", "A straw man fallacy requires a distortion of the facts, which I have not done. I have taken the inormation given by the CDC and VAERS as they gave it and presented it to you to disprove your argument. You, however, immediately replied with \"I'm amazed they even admitted 3\" which tells me you are severely distorting the evidence to fit your narrative, thus a straw man fallacy. I have presented evidence to my side, please do the same, preferably something that can withstand even basic scrutiny please, which means nothing posted to Facebook by your Aunt Karen. And next time you want to have a scientific argument, do your homework first.", "Just give up. It’s not worth your time", "> trick or treating is really low risk if you’re doing it by yourself and you don’t have a bad cough.\n\nive literally only trick or treated once; and it was a long long time ago so i dont know; but how is the candy hand off dealt with? you obviously cant verify that the homeowner hasnt 'infected' the candy (not even maliciously; like im around healthcare workers constantly and theyre still fucking atrocious with how they handle stuff; theyll cough into the air and all it takes is an infected homeowner to openly cough whilst putting the sweets or whatever in a bowl)... worst case scenario you have dozens to hundreds of kids rummaging through the same candy bowl", "Come and see the violence inherent in the system!", "Respiratory therapist who wears his face mask as a chin support is fired from his job. Well deserved.", "Do you think your opinion actually matters to me? I don't give a fuck what idiots think.", "\"You need a vaccine and to wear a mask.\" \n\n\"Im being oppressed!\" \n\nThose 2 lines instantly come to mind when I view this.", "Would a Batman mask count?", "Reports in VAERS do not indicate a causal link to vaccines. If someone got a vaccine 2 weeks ago and then died of a heart attack today, it could be reported to VAERS. But that doesn’t automatically mean that the vaccine caused the heart attack.\n\nCan you produce any reputable source that shows how many people were found to actually have died from the vaccine? Or are you just speculating?", "Fuck", "Please cry Karen! If I saw some tears that would be so hot.", "What else could it be other than anti-vax propaganda? 20% (or whatever it is) of a population don't all suddenly believe the same thing without some sort of shared information as their source.", "It doesn't do either very well. It may improve outcome if you get infected.", "next up: law enforcement.", "Bruh wut?", "What made you believe such an obvious lie about covid case numbers that you are still repeating it?", "Oh you slow, simple fool...\n\nDo I literally have to spell it out for you? \n\nLook very carefully at what I wrote and then ask yourself a simple question: HOW CAN A QUESTION BE FALSE?", "Do people actually care about votes? Don't get it myself.", "Yes, reddit is \"provax\". What a stupid fucking word. How about pro-science? Equally stupid I guess. Maybe \"pro facts\"?\n\nLet me ask you one simple question; What qualifies you more than the scientists and doctors at the Centers for Disease Control? Arguably the most prestigious group of people on the planet for researching infectious disease?\n\nSay what DNA stands for out loud. I dare you.\n\nWhat RNA and what's an mRNA vaccine? Say it out loud.\n\nIs it possible for an mRNA vaccine to alter your DNA? Explain why or why not and explain where both molecules exist in cells.\n\nHow long have mRNA vaccines been researched?", "I had to rewatch to see that and it's only in frame a few times for fractions of a second. Your attention to detail is truly supreme.", "Just... I don't know...something about his eyes makes me think he indulges in one sort of vice or another.", "What's crazy is that a year ago these people were heros and angels.", "Apparently it's \"3\". I'm shocked they let any slip through at all!", "It reduces your odds of serious problems but its not guaranteed any more than a seatbelt guarantees survival in a car crash. Plus many people in the hospital have underlying conditions that make them more susceptible to complications, even if they're vaccinated. Vaccination of both the patient and medical staff member improves everybody's odds.", "It's not the question, it's the obvious implication, of course I might be reaching by thinking you're smart enough to understand subtext.", "I was just the opposite I felt pretty crappy from flu shots but totally fine from the Pfizer shots I wouldn't even have known I got them.", "3 vs 740k. I think I’ll take my chances with the vaccine.", "[yummy tears](https://youtu.be/48H34ukFe8g)", "No you can’t guarantee it. Go ahead and actually try to produce the evidence to prove that point, right now. For this guy, and every other indignant narcissist making a scene on social media. Every single one of them. I’ll wait.", "Yeah I thought the same way about the guard. Just don’t answer him or get in a dialog. They need some training from Samoan bouncers. If they say you’re not getting in, your not getting in.", "Said it earlier today, will always say it, I got ZERO problems bullying the fuck out of these people. \n\nThey should be bullied, ridiculed and stamped out of polite society. This is not a political view, this is a human view. This is about life and death.", "Will you be the first to get it?", "The fact that you think it mattered in the first place was the telling part.\n\nAnd $33 billion is total revenue, but that's total revenue for that single 'vaccine', not Pfizer as a whole. And just in case you're curious, the highest grossing drug on the market in 2019 brought in <$19b. In short--this was a banner year at the pharmaceuticals. 2020 gets 👍👍 from the Pfizer execs!", "The lack of respect not wearing the mask over his face while shouting at the guard tells alot.", "Welcome to 2021 where the rules are made up and facts don't matter.", "wahmbulance appears. Out steps Kirk hammet. He starts shredding", "People who don't understand medical science shouldn't work in it.", "These are just modern conservative buzz words. Whether they buy it, or just want to own the libs is irrelevant. These people need to be laughed at enough that they start to go away", "but that's how claims work...\n\nyou make one, you cite the source. you _are_ the one who should do the work.", "Ah, so you’re interpreting the data wrong. \n\nGot it, could’ve assumed that.", "Hopefully his self with a giant loan.", "He's fired, so HIPAA isn't applicable to him.", "What’s the male version of a Karen called?", "I’m pretty sure this is just a parody video starring Rob Huebel. Guy sounds exactly like him. Probably just a promo for the next season of Children’s Hospital.", "Can’t spell worth a goddamn, either. Neither of those things is appealing.", "With these in-depth undeniable facts…", "Could've assumed that you have your head up your ass and that you have no idea what you're talking about. \n\nOr are you so simple that actually believe there's not a single person out that shouldn't risk an injection?", "It reduces the chance of spreading. There are percentages between 0 & 100 it's not perfect.", "Same issue really. Brute force isn't the solution. Losers settings standards of what and how we do these things is also not a solution. We should aim for much higher standards.", "Less likely to transmit the virus. If unvaxxed, higher chance of COVID. What is so hard to understand here?", "Because that's not what was mandated. The mandate is get vaccinated or get fucked.", "Goddamn, I wish literally anyone governing had the balls to actually phrase it that way. They’d have my vote almost immediately.", "They are like zombies at this point", "THE IMPLICATION THAT YOU CREATED! \n\n\nMy GOD, how are people this fucking stupid?", "It’s almost like collection of data takes time. Weird.", "Yeah someone has to pay for your miserable existence and the bad time you had the past 2 years", "I do t think you understand what an implication is. You questioned his he had read the VAERS data on deaths caused by the vaccine, and since you'd already made it clear what you thought of the vaccine, the implication was you thought it was a high number. Now go do some English homework on top of your science homework so that you can grasp these tough second grade concepts.", "Because vaccines = science. And science = facts. And facts are never wrong. So, therefore, vaccines can never be wrong! SCIENCE! Fuck yeah!\n\nEdit: just because I'm sure you won't intuit it on your own, provax implies rabid vaccine \"support\", to the point where someone or something is pushing to get the vaccine into as many people as possible, regardless of risk profiles. But yeah, \"pro-facts\"... That's the ticket...", "Since you actually seem open to new information, scientists have been working on SARS/COV vaccines for years, so a ton of leg work was done on the COVID-19 vaccines before COVID-19 had a single case.", "why would a workplace want you to be vaccinated? you answered it yourself, it reduces symptoms, the longer you’re sick the longer they are without your labour. if you die they lose a trained staff member.", ">Less likely to transmit the virus. \n\nHealthy people without the virus cannot transmit it...at all....unvaxxed or not.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>If unvaxxed, higher chance of COVID\n\nWhat studies are you looking at that show all those unvaccinated or have natural immunity have a higher chance of contracting COVID?", "what is a male Karen called?", "Are you confusing nurse practitioners with naturopaths?", "I think it’s probably pretty safe to assume the hospital owns their own parking lot.", "Sorry to hear that man. If I could hug ya I would.", "So I'll just assume that the answer to all my questions is a resounding NO.", "I’m not answering any dumb questions. They’ve been covered over and over.", "What a supreme piece of shit he is. A respiratory therapist for gods sake.", "No questions will be acknowledged until the lies stop.", "They were also pretty undivided when it came to Assad using chemical weapons on his own capital, but I'm sure you didn't fall for that steaming pile of shit, amirite?", "Actually it is. Employees and non-employees can not record video in a hospital setting. Security is the only who can use video. I work in a hospital.", ">I’m not answering any dumb questions.\n\nSo you are not familiar with any studies backing up your claims. This is a common problem now days. I am sorry you feel so threatened by anyone holding you to account.", "Even the CDC admits that the VAERS isn't at all close to 100%...", "You went from “all these vaccine deaths” to “you don’t know my medical history” really fast.\n\nEdit: with two full pages of negative karma comments, I’m going to assume you’re trolling. Poorly, but shotgun approach is effective.", "He's on r/conservative, don't try to question his \"logic\".", "😂\n\n👏", "> regardless of risk profiles\n\n2.8 billion served with at least 1 shot, last I looked, a month ago. Got numbers on people that were hurt out of that 2.8 billion?", "What a colossal douche bag.", "I don't know about this hospital specifically, but other cases I've seen where the numbers of those fired for refusing vaccination were released were all under 1% of the employee pool. Suddenly 1% is a lot to them.", "No seriously, how are you this stupid? Are you just fucking with me?", "fuck you", "Oh look how cute... He is mentally retarded!", "Trust me, I'm not the stupid one in the conversation.", "As soon as he claims the vaccine is “experimental” I lost any empathy. Anyone that still believes that isn’t qualified to work in health care. Good riddance.", "I love how he thought his ID badge was his personal property.", "If the vaccine worked and you have a vaccine...why would an unvaccinated person give you covid?", "Then it isn't a real vaccine...\n\nIf have an infection and you take an antibiotic and it doesn't clear up the infection. Then the antibiotic didn't work.\n\nIf you take a vaccine and you still get a virus then the vaccine didn't work.", "“Hey come stand with me in solidarity of my selfishness and ignorance! I’d do the same for you”\n\n“Will you wear a mask for me and submit to daily testing?”\n\n“Come on you’re being unreasonable! I just want you to jeopardize your job, what have I got to lose?”", "Science and medicine are some of the most heavily self-regulated disciplines in the world. 96% of physicians are vaccinated in the US, and are likely recommending it for their patients. That still means 4% are not though. Technically, yeah, they’re educated. But that doesn’t make their opinions sound, especially when it’s such an overwhelming consensus that vaccines are safe and effective. \n\nYou could probably find geologists that subscribe to flat earth theory, climatologists that reject humans having any impact on our climate, and even doctors who don’t believe smoking can cause cancer. Educated people can be dumb on quite a lot of things in their fields.", "That’s a salt! For your fries.", "Hahahahaha fuck off!", "I think anyone that denies another person personal choice. Should lose all of there choice and even be told what to eat for breakfast. What car they should drive. who they should have sex with and how they should spend their money.", "Is Fauci in the room with you right now?", "karen", "Well thats one way to end your career", "You should, but randomly the last RT I encountered was a heavy smoker. Interesting professions some people choose.", "You're right that the risk is minimized by being outdoors, wearing a mask, and limiting contact. But I think the issue people have with it is that the risk is unnecessary. The kid will survive missing halloween this year. But they might spread covid, which might kill somebody, hospitalize somebody, or inflict long-term harm on somebody. Maybe even multiple somebodies. And these aren't hypothetical risks; every person dying from covid today was infected by someone else who either didn't know they were spreading it, or who didn't think the dangers of spreading it were significant.\n\nAgain, it's certainly not a guarantee, and the risk is minimized, but... risking other people's lives to go trick or treating is, in my mind, selfish and irresponsible.", "wild that homeboy is a respiratory therapist and he’s not about a vaccine for a respiratory illness. \n\ni just can’t believe people like this knucklehead vote.", "Fuck this guy! He went into health care to wear scrubs and hook up with Nurses. He doesn't give a shit about the people he supposedly took care of. WTF did you go into health care for if you didn't expect to be held to a higher standard as far as avoiding infection.", "AM I BEING DETAINED", "Good. He filmed himself and posted it on a public space.", "Here's a metric that can't be manipulated: excess deaths. \n\nThe US had 470,000 excess deaths last year. That is, compared to the previous ten years, 470,000 more Americans died than would be expected. There's no way to manipulate or adjust that statistic, it literally is deaths for the last ten years averaged out compared to deaths in that specific years, and you report the difference.\n\nHow did those people die?", "Your sealioning has failed.", "lol as a lawyer it's fun collecting all of the various reasons people use to give out wrong legal advice. \"Working in a hospital\" is a new one. \n\nNo, HIPAA only applies to government employees. A normal person can't film in a hospital because of policy, which if you break you get trespassed. HIPAA has nothing to do with it.", "You’re a fucking respiratory therapist…. Spreading covid to YOUR patients is literally going to end their lives.", "See, there are personal choices that only effect you, then there are choices that directly or indirectly effect others and impact their well being.\n\nIf you want to wear suit, or a dress, great. If you want to shoot up your school, nah. You don't get to make that choice. If you want to drive drunk or recklessly, putting other people at risk, no way. You do not get to make that choice. It doesn't matter if you didn't actually crash, it simply not okay to put others at risk like that. Refusing a vaccine, choosing to continue to spread a deadly disease. Nah, not your choice.\n\nOr, accept the consequences. You drink and drive, you lose your license, your right to drive. You refuse a vaccine, you lose your right to work at, or be in certain places.", "Something tells me everybody was happy when this guy got fired.", "Jesus Christ a respiratory therapist of all people. That's like an EMT who's against people being forced to wear seatbelts.", "Don't confuse the issue, this is private property, the \"guy\" doesn't have the right to make their personal belief the ultimate belief and people can be wrong.", "Ended 11 months ago when the emergency authorization came out at that lol", "Yup. But dumber", "Read this comment and this post back to back on my feed: https://www.reddit.com/r/suspiciouslyspecific/comments/qggnre/i_had_this_today_but_with_cereal/", "I legitimately got 0 side effects from either Pfizer other than a slightly sore arm for a day. And I'm pretty sure my immune system is shit. Before this pandemic, I'm the kind of guy to get multiple colds and chest infections a year. Haven't had one at all since 2019. This distancing and heightened awareness of spreading sickness has been great for people like me.", "The thought of this person working with immunocompromised patients with respiratory ailments -- that infuriates me to no end.\n\nGood riddance.", "He can move to Florida. I’m sure Deathsantis has a job for him.", "Refusing to leave after being trespassed from the hospital -- that's criminal.", "He's in a bubble of other people all spouting the same dumb rhetoric at each other, so they think what they hear is the real science and everything else is fake stuff from the government so they can control us. \n\n\nI think it's a symptom of a genuine mental illness, but they don't have enough self awareness to get help.", "In the US HIPAA applies at the very least to all Healthcare workers as well. They make it very clear that I will be fined and potentially arrested for a serious HIPAA violation.", "So... You are all wrong here, in your own special ways. Hospital policy usually prohibits video recording in patient care areas, but recording video is not in-and-of-itself a HIPAA violation.\n\nIf a patient or visitor happens to capture protected health information (PHI) on their video, that is a HIPAA violation, but the violator is the entity that left said information in a place where it was viewable by others. An employee of a hospital would certainly be in violation if they revealed this information to the public. If the employee has already been fired, HIPAA doesn't apply to information they acquire after said firing. If someone breaks into your healthcare facility and steals PHI, they are guilty of crimes, but YOU are guilty of a HIPAA violation by failing to protect the PHI. If you had taken all reasonable measures to prevent this from happening, you'd probably be given more of the benefit of the doubt, but you are in violation nonetheless.\n\nHIPAA applies to all \"covered entities\", regardless of whether they are government employees or not. Generally speaking, covered entities are folks involved in the business of healthcare who have access to PHI, including providers, administrative staff, insurance companies, consultants, whether publicly or privately employed. It does not apply to patients, visitors, or anyone else \"not covered\".", "RT is not a 4 year degree. It’s a 1 year training in private college and does not creditable for associate degree. However, RT can also get another 2 months of training to become CCRT which the pay is as much as an RN.", "Dude's confusing public with publicly accessible. Walmart is publicly accessible, but it's still private property.", "It still could be, if he reveals protected information that he acquired while on the job. At this point, he's just trespassing.", "Now do that while black.", "Guaranteed this dude learned the word \"easement\" within the last 24 hours.", "What’s the death rate of covid again?", "Among people who need to see a respiratory therapist for other reasons and then catch COVID?\n\nIf you need it spelled out for you, a respiratory therapist works with people suffering acute cardiac and pulmonary diseases. What do you think happens if they catch covid?\n\nA. No increased risk, nothing happens.\n\nOr fucking\n\nB. An elevated risk to the point these at risk patients might actually die.\n\nWe aren’t talking about a cashier here, so yeah, just shut up.", "That's a pretty baseless assumption and completely off topic.", "What I don't get, is that even if you're leery of the MRNA vaccine technology, you still have to choice to take the J&J vaccine which uses the \"classic\" inert virus technique to vaccinate.", "White ppl be cray", "On the other hand the silver lining of covid is how many stupid are outing themselves in front of everyone. I'm sure many of us thought some of our neighbours and coworkers were a little slow before. Now we know they're full blown idiots that can be safely ignored for the rest of their meaningless lives.", "Not true. Skilled doctor doesn’t need to believe in western medicine. It’s just that they’re really good applying on what they learned in medical school. \n\nMost of my colleagues refused to have their kids vaccinated in US. They rather pay private school because it’s vaccine was not required by law (this was back then). For what reason? You don’t need to know.\n\nAlso, believe it or not, some doctors rather have acupuncture, foot massage, herbal, or eastern medicine than taking our own drugs when they get really sick.", "Douchebag hair. Douchebag facial hair. Douchebag victim tone.", "Sigh... I'm so done with this. We've discovered a few things so far: 1) Vaccines help to prevent serious COVID symptoms. 2) Vaccines significantly reduce your chance of getting COVID. I fully trust these studies.\n\nNaturally it's ideal if everyone gets vaccinated. I'm personally fully vaxxed. What I don't agree with is treating those who don't want the vaccines like social pariahs. Not only social, but in places like Germany they can't even go to the supermarket now to buy basic goods. Do you really think these sort of abruptly instituted regulations lead to a peaceful and positive outcome? This ultimately divides society and creates extremists. \n\nI'm willing to tolerate those who don't want a vaccine for whatever reason, because their threat to me or any fully vaxxed person is negligible compared to the cost of the freedom we've worked so hard for. Wear a condom to protect yourself from HIV. Sure there's still a 0.1% chance you'll get it, but you're doing your best to avoid it. If they want to have unmasked parties with no vaccinations then so be it. They will diminish their numbers even faster.\n\nYou can't control people, and no matter how much you disagree with anti-vaxxers, this pandemic has been used as a political weapon in so many shameful ways for ulterior motives. It's time we start living our lives again.\n\nI consider my opinion fairly central, but considering the platform I'm on I fully expect to be downvoted to Hades.", "[CDC](https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html)\n\n>More than 414 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through October 25, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 9,143 reports of death (0.0022%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths pdf icon", "Not quite… Respiratory therapists complete either 2-year associate's degree or 4-year bachelor's degree programs. Upon graduation, you can choose to sit for a national exam to become a Certified Respiratory Therapist (CRT).", "seems \"respiratory therapist\" was more like \"conspiracy theorist\"", "Easy way to tell if someone is a cunt is if the video contains \"assault\" and \"lawsuit\"", "Fucking hell...", "I like how he said that this is a public place. Most hospitals that I know are not public place. If this was my hospital he would have been arrested for trespassing for refusing to leave the property.", "BUt wHAt aBoUT tHe LoNG TeRM EfFeCts?!?!?!?!?", "mRNA vaccine research has been going on for 20 years now... what the hell are you even talking about lmao.", "> Stop trusting everything you're told and try to think critically for once.\n\nI look at the death and hospitalisation rates plummet as vaccination rates go up and I draw the conclusion that the vaccinations are keeping the community safe from harm. Am I doing it right?", "Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest.", "Plenty of other medicine get greenlit on lesser sample size. The only reason why this people is throwing a hissy fit is because it called vaccine instead of some other random word. Can we just change name or just lie to this people. Let make scam group with most sketchy people ever, just have the fbi/cia/mossad hunt this people on the street and make a giant movie production over it.\n\nLet them start pushing covid vaccine under the guise of some mythical south american jungle plant. I bet those antivaxxer would be lining up to their their dose from \"black market goverment hate it miracle cure\".", "If you wait long enough will the tears come so we can give in or?", "need to be vaxxed to work in fast food.", "Lmao", "Also have an idiotic sister. Hope I wake up from this nightmare. You really don't know how people will act until a crisis hits.", "roasted", "-1-1- person knows 0 isn’t 1.", "Walk with them.\n\nAnd hold the door open for them.", "Take your hands off my _penis_", "[Get your hand off my penis!](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PeihcfYft9w)", "Holy fuck you killed them", "Why?", "Where is the fire extinguisher for this BURN?", "I hated that so much", "J&J is not classic inert virus. It is an adenovirus vector DNA vaccine. Definitely not traditional inactivated virus. \n\nChina has a few inactivated vaccines for COVID, but effectiveness is poor. USA is using either mRNA or DNA vaccines.", "Thank you, this is like the first explanation of HIPAA I've seen that gets it right.", ">The last thing I want to worry about is some fuck giving me COVID because of a hissy fit.\n\nBtw, you can still get COVID from someone that is vaxxed so be careful either way :)", "J&J isn’t available anywhere. I looked for anywhere within a 100m radius and couldn’t find it.", "Seems like the badges are security liability then. The bar codes should be on the back side and perhaps two factor authentication for medical terminals seems like a good idea.", "Let me guess... you're anti everything too eh?", "If he were smart and wanted to be an asshole he could have said “Ok, I accept my firing. I need to go to the ER because I’m having a medical emergency.”\n\nHe could have stayed in the hospital as a patient. Lol, that would have been hilarious.", "Good luck for your procedure", "He has a whingery.", "He’d be more apt to speak on the subject of vaccines? How?\n\nAnd what about the rest of the respiratory therapists? If most of them are vaccinated, why does this one guy hold so much weight? What are the percentages?", "Is the title correct? He was a RESPIRATORY therapist? He's watched people die for a year being unable to breath, yet refuses to get vaccinated because of some crazy conspiracy BS? People be losing their marbles.", "Nah- we are gonna blame the individuals. This is willful ignorance. Choosing ignorance and becoming a danger to others is 100% the fault of individuals.", "no i’m sorry but they get it. They’re just too caught up in themselves and arguments. Your sister is just being really selfish. She might kill someone.", "\"Liberty is more important than safety...\"\nSo like an Escape from New York situation where you can do anything you want but the other guys on the island might kill you without consequences?", "You too can be a respiratory therapist in 2 years or less. And no, you don't need a bachelors to be a respiratory therapist.", "Amazing how everyone in this echo chamber went from calling these people heroes to denigrating them because they don't want to be forced to take a medication with unconfirmed/unknown long term consequences. \n\nBlind trust in government and bandwagon denigration of anyone who disagrees with you are the building blocks for tyrrany and the destruction of citizens rights and ultimately, lives.", "This is what I'm talking about in my post. A couple of the people are nurses, but the vast majority work in the food service aspect, or as orderlies or security. They were all deemed \"essential\" when numbers were skyrocketing, so they think that gives them a pass. Technically speaking, they are part of the medical industry, but I didn't mean to imply they were all doctors.", "Funny how he got his bluff called and wanted a take back.", "It's a symptom of being locked in \"algorithm bubbles\".", "Not the sort of guy you need as an employee", "I'm on a business trip right now visiting another plant. My boss is pissed that I'm on this trip because she can't go, since she's unvaccinated. She says that she's being discriminated against... God, I wish the company would do the same thing to her.", "I work at a hospital and the one person we lost because of vaccine mandates, was the one person we all wanted gone for years.", "Amazing that an ex-employee of a UCLA medical facility thinks they can record freely in a medical building. \n\nI’m confident that’s a potential HIPPA violation.", "It's HIPAA!", "Oh ffs, thanks HIPPA bot.", "It's HIPAA!", "Ahh, you know your judo well.", "It blows my mind that medical professionals get caught up in this shit", "Isn’t he a medical professional? How does he not know this??", "It’s the internet. Everyone is an expert on everything." ]	621	videos	Respiratory therapist freaks out after being fired hospital for refusing COVID vaccine.
https://youtu.be/ULCIHP5dc44	/r/videos/comments/qgjatd/cowboy_bebop_official_trailer/	[ "Why do they keep doing this? Why do they keep doing live action remakes of anime?", "Ok this trailer actually has me excited. The other one they put out with the weird editing made me nervous. Now I'm back to being excited.", "Yeah the tone seems better with this one. I'm cautiously optimistic.", "None of the characters act like who they're supposed to be playing. What's it with Netflix and live action anime?", "Because as much as Redditors love anime they don't realize that the style and writing in it isn't for everybody. Especially adults", "The shot with Faye in the her ship smiling is soooooo bad.", "I’m just here for the hate comments.", "Fayes direction is all wrong. Ill give Spike a chance to grow on me but I dont think that sort of character can ever look great in live action. Jett looks amazing.\n\nCautiously optimistic.", "TOTALLY AGREED! That other trailer wasn't the style I was hoping for, this one is.", "Japan does it all the time. Tokyo Revengers live action movie was a hit over the summer.", "I don't like the clips of Spike pointing the gun at Faye....VERY out of character. I really hope they are not showing Ed only to keep it a surprise. I will be very disappointed if she isn't in this series.", "100%. The amount of cuts and weird editing gave me anxiety just trying to keep up with what was going on.", "Better than the last trailer", "I am torn between believing this looks unbelievably stupid and kind of wanting to watch it. \n\nAlso where is the kid and the dog? I ain't watching it unless they try and work in the kid and the dog.", "Ein is killing it though!", "I'm game. I also have no history with the original so I'm happy to take this at face value.", "Everything looks great... But nothing feels like it's actually Cowboy Bebop", "This looks incredible! I'm optimistic. I'm glad they are mixing being faithful with putting their own spin on it. Much like Dune 2021 has a whole different feel from Lynch's Dune in some ways, but matches in others. There is, and ought to be, more than one way to interpret characters and stories.\n\nI hope this does well, has a second season, and inspires another animated movie. What an incredible world the creators made. It is worth revisiting and expanding.\n\nEDIT: One pedantic response that misses the point I was making, and one just shitting on this show. What is it about fandoms that makes some fervent so damn inflexible and angry? It's pathetic. \"Closer to the source\" is not the only measure of quality.", "Cowboy Bebop seems like the perfect anime to do a live action version of. There’s no crazy powers and most of the characters and storylines wouldn’t be out of place in the sort of action/drama in a near future setting that people that don’t really watch anime would normally watch.", "This looks way better than the \"opening credits\" teaser\n\nI guess the trailer was just trying to match the abstract original opening credits.", "Because it's fun.", "Ein is in the trailer.", "Watched it again and spotted him", "Looks better than expected", "I can't stand the main actor he looks and sounds like Grant Imahara, he just doesn't right.", "This seems like it could go either way. There looks to be a ton of creativity in the art and filming. I just hope the writing is decent.", "but live action adaptations don't really appeal to anime fans or normal people. Nobody asked for this.", "It seems a little campy, but I can dig it.\n\nBesides, any flaws in the show I can chalk up to the show being filmed during a pandemic.", "Fuck it, might no be a fan of the casting and some costumes, but this is space opera/western with some quality visuals on the setting, count me the fuck in!", "I'm not a fan of the Swordfish straight hovering but I am a fan of the idea that Faye is stealing it.\n\nI'm not a fan of retconing Spike's origin but I also want to learn how he became a skilled pilot.\n\nI'm not a fan of their depiction of Mad Pierrot. At all. \n\n\nEDIT: Formatting", "Ya what even was that other trailer? Is this the show or is that cause they are night and day.", "I’ll still watch it and probably enjoy it. The colors are too bright for my personal take.", "I’m actually quite impressed with this trailer. So much more than that little teaser they made (but I do realize that teaser was a quick little project and not a real representation of actual scenes). \n\nI’ve been optimistic the whole time so I hope it doesn’t disappoint.", "To be fair that was a hokey teaser made just as a teaser. I thought it felt off too but I didn’t think it was a true representation of the show. Just a fun little side project.", "Fuck yea please", "This trailer's way more reassuring than the last one. The final product could still go either way--or go neither way and remain totally unremarkable--but this at least makes it seem like they might have found a tone that can do the show justice.", "Yeah plenty of anime in general get adapted to huge sucess in japan\n\nIts literally no different than comicbook movies", "I also don't believe they cast the kid", "The same reasons they adapt books, comics, and video-games, I'm assuming?", "They are adapting the first half of the show. Ed shows up almost half way through the original show so it's fitting that she's not there. \n\nAnd as mentioned already Ein is in this season which fits with the timeline of the show.", "I hope they get this one right. No matter what happens... The Soundtrack by Yoko Kanno will always be a Iconic!!", "I didn't ask for this before I saw the trailer, but i'm asking for it now.", "To be honest, the music moves me more than anything else. Yoko Kanno is a goddess.", " \nIll say this as a big Cowboy Bebop fan that never wanted this to be made in the first place: \nThey are trying, like they are really trying with this one AND it seems like they give a shit for this project and its source material. I know that is really not a high bar to reach but I really dont see this as \"total trash\" like others are already labeling it. Like, this doesn't look like Death note 2017 territory at all. \nOne big positive is the use of music, its one of the most important things of the original anime and based on everything they showed i liked how they used the songs at the very least. I might actually give this a solid chance and watch it.\n\nOne big negative so far is the characterization of Spike and Faye. Its understandable they they would be different, but they don't fully FEEL like the character like Jet does SO FAR based on these trailers, We'll see", "Was really pulling for this series just because anime fans very predictably hated this before anything was even shown. This trailer looked great and John Cho looks like he'll make for a good Spike Spiegel, despite people shitting on him for being in his 40s. This genuinely has me excited now.", "Imo the only successful transition from game or cartoon to live action is the witcher. Objective from the lead actor especially should be to sound like the original.", "You’re a dumb fuck.", "Lynch's Dune is not the original source material of to judge faithfulness to. Nor is the scifi miniseries.", "no u", "fucking mazing I cant waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait", "Goes to show the old adage. The best editors go unnoticed. But as an editor, I liked the weird trailer too.", "The visuals looks much better than expected. Jet fits in great. Spike is acting very out of character. Faye is horrible all around.\n\nI am still quite pessimistic about this, but its lightyears better than what the teaser showed.", "good, it’s not an anime", "Wtf did I just watch?", "no u x2", "Faye continues to give manic pixie vibes instead of a calculated conwoman. Hopefully several seasons will give time to mellow her out (unless they butcher her past as well).", "I have zero interest in anything anime but I'll probably watch this.", "Are you sure, they have perriot le fou laughing in the trailer and he was in episode 20.", "That soundtrack is great", "Ok i'm in.", "Agreed, cowboy beebop is a sci fi action film noir at the end of the day and the anime is great and has been very successful. That being said, it doesn't have one of the most prolific stories in all of manga/anime by far. There are some manga/anime that that will ruin your day or week and make you legitimately weep. Cowboy Beebop is not one of them.\n\nPersonally, I think that since Berserk has never really had a great anime made of it, maybe something live action would do it justice. I feel like the themes in that would lend themselves to live action in the same spirit as game of thrones, but much, much more brutal.", "This ain't it, chief", "It's weird when people say this when so much of anime is itself adapted. Short novels and manga in particular often get adapted into anime.", "Seems like they’re being faithful to the original episodes.", "I’m excited. This looks promising. John Chou doesn’t look 50. He looks mid 30s which isn’t bad.", "I'm surprised I didn't recognize Spike as John Cho, AKA Harold from Harold and Kumar.", "Dude, all I want from this remake is John Cho in a blond wig, riding a white stallion, wearing a cowboy hat, and driving regular John Cho insane.", "I don't know what studio/producer/director/etc. is working on this, but it appears they are skewing towards a soap opera style of film, which is unfortunately the norm in Japan. Low budget visuals, exaggerated acting. Like it's live theater and not film. \n\nI mean this trailer feels like it was cobbled together by the local uni anime club. The smug, incoherent, overly dramatic dialog is more akin to shitty anime dialog than a gritty sci-fi comedy. Did anyone notice the white gooey substance on Faye's fingers? This is base, low-brow humor. The window shutter gag? Is that the best they have to offer for the trailer?\n\nIn short, it's shit. Only two things it has going for it: the brand name and the jank", "“Ed — everybody wants to know about Ed! People will be… very delighted when they watch the season.”\n\n- André Nemec aka the Netflix showrunner, 2021\n\nLink: https://www.ign.com/articles/cowboy-bebop-netflix-ed-yoko-kanno", "#$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$", "[John Cho on a horse](https://i.imgur.com/rJhikEh.gifv)\n\nI'll take that or Kal Penn as Andy", "Ed would be really hard to pull off... Prob took the easy way out and did not even bother.", "I think it was a lot better than the last trailer. I'm still not completely sold on how some of the characters are being written/performed, mainly Faye, but I'll give it a go and either I'll like it or I won't. By this point I just need to see how it flows from moment to moment in an actual episode. The main things I want are chemistry between the crew and the slower moments to be executed well but that's hard to really show well in a short trailer.", "Cho's Spike seems more a depressed nihilistic than the nonchalant 'whatever happens, happens' from the anime.", "Yeah, Jett was the best casting decision by far. The dude is the right age bracket, the right physical stature, a good match between character and acting.", "Is it just me? I'm not sold. Feels so much slower than the anime. Doesn't help that the anime is the GOAT for me.", "Better", "damn, can't argue with that", "Judging by the clown this is an adaption and not a sequel? :/ \n\n\nAlso where is Ed? Ed make fun, me need Ed.", "I think it's easier to adapt a manga to an anime than it is an anime to live action.", "There's a brief clip of some detonatator with a smiley face being used. That's Ed's thing.", "Plenty of comics have successfully been adapted to live action, just look at Marvel.", "I am aware i would not be surprised if they take creative liberties with things from the anime they could be from someone else\n\nor maybe ed does not show up on screen until the end all i know is no one has ever been announced", "I don't understand how people think this looks good. It's like they don't understand the characters at all", "I'm still on the fence, but this was a lot better than the last one. The acting still feels awkward and the fight scenes feel slow. Visually I think its fantastic though.", "Yeah, Jet seems spot on, kudos to the actor and writers, but yeah Spike and Faye seem a bit off. Hopefully it will come across a bit better in the show.", "I can't explain it. There just havent been any largely successful anime to live action adaptations. Maybe it's a curse.", "I have a weird relationship with this process:\n\nFirst trailer: ambivalent\nSecond trailer: awful\nThis? Actually really fucking cool", "The Kenshin live action adaptions were awesome. The Jinchu arc in particular was done better in live action than any of the animations ever did.\n\nAlso GTO and Sailor Moon both had good live action adaptions.", "As some one who’s never watched the Anime, this looks like fun.", "Jet: Do not shoot her!\n\nSpike: Please?\n\nThey managed to get the relationship between those 3 down perfectly it seems.", "As a video producer and editor, the first trailer is the shit and is likely going to go down as one of the most technically incredible pieces of artistic video ever made.\n\nThat said, as a fan, this trailer definitely makes me far more excited for the show.", "No Ed? Ein is there, but no Ed? You can't have one without the other.", "It’s hard for me to get past John Cho as Spike. Just doesn’t work for me.", "It feels like they just took the Cowboy Bebop IP and said \"let's do away with all that artistic direction from the original and make a really average Netflix series!\" It seems almost like a fan-made trailer showing what a series COULD BE with an actual budget, storyline, etc. There's just something about it that just seems so off.\n\nI enjoyed the original series but I wasn't obsessed with it - didn't technically watch all the episodes. This gives me vibes of putting something through Google Translate, then back through to the original language; it's our language, but not really.", "This is the best take IMO. A Cowboy Beebop live action remake is obviously an incredibly hard project to take on, and it really seems like they are putting their all into it and doing the best they can. Even if it turns out to be not great, at least it isn't an embarrassing cash grab. \n\nIn the end, as a big Cowboy Beebop fan, I can't be angry that there's more Beebop to consume and talk about lately.", "MUCH better trailer than the previous ones, still feels like a big budget student film.", "Teddy bomber from episode 22 (Cowboy Funk) appears in the trailer around 1:04. As someone else mentioned, Mad Pierrot from episode 20 is also in the trailer. It doesn't seem that they're only doing the first half.", "John Cho is still not the right choice for Spike but this trailer looks WAY better than the last.", "I thought that was the teddy bear bomber", "I really liked the first trailer as a short. It was stylish, funny, well edited, had some good action, all the good shit. \n\nBut if the entire show was like that, I'd be worried.", "What disappoints me most is this Spike's vibe, especially his facial expressions and tone. It's always dead serious, even hard nosed.\n\nThe Spike I remember was happy go lucky, smiling even when facing death, and cracking jokes. It was central to the character.", "How could they not put “SEE YOU SPACE COWBOY” at the end. Other than that this looks sick. Seems like this series is more well fit for a live action remake and fingers crossed it doesn’t end up like the live action Death Note or Mob Psycho.", "Doesn't work. Anime is its own thing. Live action anime is not fun.", "So true. This live-action series isn't taking anything away from the original. With what's been put into the show like the music, it'll be a nice addition to the anime.", "Same, and I like John Cho. He just doesn't have the easy charisma that Spike does, and it's weird that he looks way older than Jet", "I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not but I really hope it is, because that's the exact opposite of the dynamic they had.", "Honestly even if it's bad, it doesn't look like a lazy cashin at all.\n\nI think I'm going to file this under, \"Refuse to care if it's not good, but open to being pleasantly surprised if it is.\"", "bruh how can I take this seriously with this actor?", "I can't put my finger on it, but something about this feels like it's missing the grit and sophistication of the original. Kinda like the Ghost in the Shell movie; tried and true attempt but just somehow missing the mark.\n\nDoesn't look bad though at least when not comparing it to the original.", "I mean John Cho just is not cool. Spike is the essence of cool.", "Despite the downvotes, your point is really valid; different media is different and that is a good thing!", "That looks damn good.", "Faye gave manic pixie vibes in the anime. We only realized how fucking amazing she was as the show went on but she was a confusing ball of emotions from the start.", "Goddamn they should have just released this one from the start.", "Wow this looks……bad. A lot of anime/manga should never be made into live action.", "John is 49 and Mustafa is 45, so yeah.", "There is something so off about this and I can't put my finger down on what it is", "Setting yourself up for disappointment if you compare it to the anime. \n\nI'm going into it as an alternate reality new series, hoping they make it their own and not a carbon copy of the original.", "not anime as i thought... very interesting now", "we haven't seen spike or fay in their downtime yet. the quiet moments are a big part of the series, and those don't go into trailers for action shows.", "Beebop has some very slow episodes though. And some really fast paced ones.", "Those fight scenes look like garbage. They look like a better fight scene that's being slowly rehearsed before filming it.", "That would make sense if they didn't choose to make this a Cowboy Bebop series. But they did, so naturally it's going to invite comparison.", ">as a big Cowboy Beebop fan\n\nBebop", "Sure, but then why call,it Cowboy Beebop? The characters all have pretty established characteristics and styles that the actors don't look like they'll be able to hit. They could have just made a cool space crime show without using beebop.", ">I really hope they are not showing Ed only to keep it a surprise. I will be very disappointed if she isn't in this series.\n\n[:)](https://www.ign.com/articles/cowboy-bebop-netflix-ed-yoko-kanno)", "pleasedon'tsuck pleasedon'tsuck pleasedon'tsuck pleasedon'tsuck pleasedon'tsuck pleasedon'tsuck pleasedon'tsuck pleasedon'tsuck pleasedon'tsuck pleasedon'tsuck.", "And the dude is 50. Spike is like in his mid-20s. No idea why they went with Cho for this one, I don't know why they didn't go for something like Timothée Chalamet.", "Wait, are you saying they don't do it for the approval of internet nerds?", "Anime definitely isn't for everyone, but let's not act like Netflix's live action adaptations have been more accessible. \n\nThey've all been terrible.", "I totally agree that it will invite comparison. I think it’s important to remember that it is a different take on the material though.", "I mean it's not film, it's a series.", "Or Steven Yeun!", "you realize his participation is what got this made?", "I guess so, but he's also almost 40. Spike is supposed to be really young.", "Uh, I guess that explains why he got the main role.", "they needed a well known Asian as the lead.", "And is that supposed to be a good thing or a bad thing?", "I like John Cho, i really wanted Selfie* to be renewed - it's one of the great underrated sitcoms of recent times. \n\nBut this adaptation of Cowboy Bebop........doesn't look right at all. The production values look cheap. \n\nPlus the tone seems all wrong. Cowboy Bebop was mysterious, tragic, dark, but elements of comedy. This looks like its going more for comedy. \n\nI would've much rather had another animated Cowboy Bebop animated movie or series ........or just leave the series alone. \n\nIt looks like it has the same problem the Star Wars sequels had - what's the point?", "I agree. Is his hair not enough drama? Something is off. Too weathered? I imagine Spike being suuuper baby faced. Would have been nice to see a younger unknown.", "I def imagine Spike looking like Timothee but casting a white dude would have been a big mistake.", "Agreed, and for people who have never seen the anime before this might be really good. For me personally watching these trailers, I don't really get the right vibe from Spike and Faye. It's hard to put into words, but their acting and demeanor just isn't quite there and is a little off-putting. Maybe I'll come around to it though", "This is a much better trailer than what was teased before.", "Ha. Sounds irrelevant but I'm not american.", "Uh. I'm not american so I don't have a say in this.", "it's not just the US. it's hard to get movies funded, and haveing someone well known as the lead in a small project can make that a lot easier; and it had to be spike", "I’m not sure that has much to do with it. The source material is Japanese.", "just a commentary on how a movie gets funded and what draws in audiences. he's the only one in it anybody has ever heard of.", "He could have founded the thing, work as a producer and hire a young actor to play Spike. The \"needed an asian\" sounds like an american thing. That's why I said it feels irrelevant if you're not american but I guess I get the importance for americans.", "Spike it like a foot and a half shorter, way older, and Faye is chubby. \n\n\nI'm done.", "Uh... so, why is Jet black (ha) and Faye white?", "A cheap imitation of their relationship, maybe.", "so who does the audience recognize on screen?\n\nas for Asian it's generally held as bad to take a role away from an underrepresented race and give it to a white guy.\n\nnothing wrong with takeing one of a million white roles and giving it to a black actor. not that that matters for Jet, he's always been black in my head.", "You know what draws in audiences? Good casting choices and writing. If it couldn't be made without him as Spike, then it should have stayed unmade.", "I always “read” Jet as Black in the anime, fairly certain he was intended to be & Daniella Pineda is actually Mexican-American.", "Personally, I think they got the feel of the world being dirty and gritty. I'll be holding off on my impressions of the characters but I can say that this trailer is definitely better than the earlier trailer. I think the issue for me is that the dub for Spike and Faye is so fitting that anything other than their voice is throwing me off.", "This just comes across as some weird fan film most of the time. And the quality of the acting/line delivery is all over the place.\n\nI want to give this a try but no promo material I've seen has convinced me this is going to be good. Fun maybe. But good, no.", "Sure, but a different take on the material can easily become a bad thing if it doesn't capture what made the original special. If you change too much than having the CB name attached becomes a detriment because people aren't getting what they came for.", "Cho constantly looks like he's about to fall asleep. I don't understand why he got the part at all.", "not for a genera work from 23 years ago. it's got a fanbase, but the goal is to attract as many viewers as possible. all works change when adapted,truly faithful is not synonymous with good.", "Animation being not for adults is an extremely boomer opinion.", "They're making too many safe choices for it to come out good anyway, may as well try to hit the right notes instead of whatever this is.", "Very fair! With the Witcher, I have enjoyed all three (books, games, Netflix) not because they’re identical but because they each (games, and Netflix) tackle source material in different ways.", "I get why is important for americans, but at least they could get a younger asian actor I think.", "I guess it sorta make sense for americans. All i'm saying is at least they could get a younger asian actor to play Spike", "Oldboy Beflop. This shit made me take the only sticker off my laptop lol. See you, my space cowboy sticker.", "Cause he’s not Asian?", "Pierrot is neither fat nor floaty, F-", "I absolutely agree it would have been an amazing opportunity for someone new and young!", "You found me out, I'm not actually a fan at all.", "I see Vicious is still rocking that dollar store wig.", "that's the thing, there aren't many famous ones because their roles keep getting rewritten as white. if there was a younger actor he would still have to be famous, so white.", "It never clicked that they wouldn't be speaking Japanese... the tone/attitude is hard to translate. Hope it's good nonetheless. Nonetheless is a weird word.", "that's what they said about heith ledger as the joker.", "I'd bet a hotdog that they cast Ashley Burch as Ed.", "Uhhh I don't know man. Sure it's not as loud and weird as most anime but we're talking about a show where the main character's nemesis is an effeminate samurai named Vicious, the main female character is femme fatale dressed in fan service and they later meet a little aspergian child who is basically a walking tumblr post from 2009...\n\nIt's a bit more mature than other anime, sure, but let's not pretend like it's not a weird show with some quirky writing and characterization that is going to be difficult to adapt to live action and something that isn't going to appeal to everyone. I mean after years of being told to watch Cowboy Bebop I really couldn't get through it. Despite it being a really well made show and having some fun aspects to it, it just really wasn't my cup of tea, and that's going to be the case with a lot of people.", "> They are trying, like they are really trying with this one AND it seems like they give a shit for this project and its source material.\n\nI got the exact opposite impression from that trailer. Everything about this reminds me of Spy Kids, not Cowboy Bebop.", "Really? They said they're making too many safe choices by casting Heath Ledger as the Joker? Who said that? \n\nDefend it all you like, it's gonna come out and be not as good as The Dark Knight.", "When their version of the intro was first shown, many commented that there seem to be space for Ed. Ein was introduced in Session 3 and Ed was introduced in Session 9. It's quite possible she'll be revealed at a later episode but idk I agree she's quite hard to pull off but she's still a significant character. \n\n\nEdit:\n\nA bit of googling and looks like she'll be coming alright, https://www.ign.com/articles/cowboy-bebop-netflix-ed-yoko-kanno", "yes they did, they thought they werre trying to cast a hearthrob to attract people. It's the dude from A knights tale, this can't possibly be any good.\n\n> it's gonna come out and be not as good as The Dark Knight\n\nI'm saying a lot of the fans of batman thought Dark Knight was going to suck because they know so much about casting. An adaptation deviating slightly from the original work is not a bad thing, and how does spike being a little older change anything important?\n\nor is it just not what you had in mind.", "I really never though of race when watching the show. But I'm not american, I get how this issue is important for you.", "I'd rather they go in a completely different direction in that case. If you're going to hide behind \"it's not an anime,\" then you've got to go all the way with that. The garish colors don't quite work in real life? Don't use them. Stilted anime expressions and pacing doesn't work in real life? Don't use it. If this is to be considered \"a different take\" then it has to actually be a different take. Get some actual outfits and hair that looks good on the actors and evoke the same emotions as the original characters if they can't emulate the look well enough. Etc.", "I’m tired of those stupid horns… 🎺", "Well it's certainly a style... Looks really really campy.", "Grit and sophistication are for edgy teenagers. We live in the GotG generation of film. Everything must be witty, self-aware, and hammy. I mean, it's just a TV show.", "It's going to stop rolling in eventually. Even weebs are going to get sick of heartless cashgrabs eventually.", "Pepepains", "Internet nerds are why there would be any money in an adaptation in the first place. The general public hasn't even heard of Cowboy Bebop, so it doesn't make sense to expect them to flock to it. The whole point of an adaptation, continuation, or reboot is specifically to cash in on an existing fanbase and their children.\n\nIf your target is the general public, you'll do no worse just making a totally new property.", "> yes they did, they thought they werre trying to cast a hearthrob to attract people.\n\nOk, but Ledger put so much work into that role it literally killed him. You won't see that again, not on this show. Also, they said the same thing about Jared Leto, and they were right. \n\n>I'm saying a lot of the fans of batman thought Dark Knight was going to suck because they know so much about casting.\n\nAside from the Joker casting, no one had little trust in Christopher Nolan. \n\n>An adaptation deviating slightly from the original work is not a bad thing, and how does spike being a little older change anything important?\n\nA little older? He's twice the age plus 7. His age isn't the only reason he's not the right choice for Spike. He just isn't the right person, he can't pull off what the character is. \n\nI don't care to talk about this anymore. You're not convincing me, and you're just going to defend it no matter what anyone says. I don't have that much faith in a Netflix live action anime adaptation, and honestly your faith is baffling.", "\"Cowboy Bebop isn't for adults\" said every out-of-touch grandma in the late 90s.", "I don't think \"prolific\" is the word that you wanted to use.", "That is very valid!", "Not to mention that the retro-future aesthetic would be cheap enough to build out of old computers and VCRs.", "People ask for things to be adapted into anime.\n\nNobody asks for anime to be adapted into things.\n\nWell, except video games.", "no u x command mission is my favorite one, but nothing will ever top no u 9.", "I've noticed a weird return over the past several years to \"grow up and do grown-up things, and video games and cartoons and comics and fantasy fiction aren't grown-up things\" rhetoric from the young adults in Gen Z.", "I'm gonna shit on this so hard! HRRRRRRRNNNNNGGGG!!!!! \nJust kidding. I don't really care about the source material. This looks kinda awesome.", "it's not faith, I just think this is silly to hold to such high standards of authenticity. if it's good? great. if it's bad? it didn't ruin the originals somehow. we're lucky to have this, it wasn't likely to ever happen.", "Film is a medium. This is film.\n\nI mean if you want to get real technical, none of it was probably shot on film. Neither are most movies. Series were originally \"Film Serials.\"\n\nIf you're gonna pedant, make sure you've got it right.", "Bebop is one of those rare animes where the English dubs were terrific. I think they are going more for that, but they aren't trying to do it 1-1.", "Honestly, I've seen a bunch of positive comments from internet nerds about this show.", "I think American film / television in general has been splitting in two directions. Most of the industry is heading in the direction of low-budget, pump-it-out, \"watch and forget and watch the next thing\" productions, like we see here, like what goes on in Asian nations and on daytime television. A smaller portion is moving in an avant-garde, prestige direction. As a result, a contingent of the populace who wants things with a balance of art, thought, and humility are being kind of ignored, and this contingent is, I believe, the contingent which primarily made up the SciFi viewing audience of yesteryear.", "This looks really bad....and not in a Michael Jackson sense.", "Yeah, who cares about casting the right people for the right roles? Might as well hire the wrong writers, too.\n\nWe are not lucky to have this, we were fine without it. We'd be lucky if it was good, and it's not looking good.", "I'm sure if you define everybody you talk to online as a nerd, you wouldn't be wrong.", "The vast majority of Japanese anime absolutely is designed with kids in mind", "Okay I’m almost doing a 180 here from the last trailer, I don’t know if I’m excited to see this now but I’m actually interested in seeing it instead of pretending it didn’t exist.\n\nMy best compliment I can give before seeing it is it does seem like some real reverence for the source material is there, like the people behind this really wanted to make a live action Cowboy Bebop.", "Regardles most of them are excited and will probably watch the show, so the main reason (money) it's definitely being reached.", ">I don't know what studio/producer/director/etc. is working on this, but it appears they are skewing towards a soap opera style of film\n\nNobody calls a show a \"style of film\". Film in this context is synonymous with \"movie\", which this is not.", "This is such a trash take considering the breadth of style and genre that exists in anime.\n\nSaying you flat out don’t like anime is like saying you don’t like music. I find it truly bizarre to make such sweeping generalizations about a medium.", "I've never seen a person try so hard to miss the point.\n\nOh wait, this is Reddit.", "There is another clue that it's not a sequel...", "I share a lot of the worry and hate in the comments here and on the teaser, but I don't.. \"hate\" this. Right now, that's all i'm willing to give it. To quote my favorite comment I read on the teaser \"I hope it doesn't suck\".", "Also, whenever they show him doing anything martial arts related it’s obvious he’s acting. They really needed to get someone to give him lessons or find someone who can sell it (like Keanu since he’s been brought up in this thread already).", "> Film in this context is synonymous with \"movie\", which this is not.\n\n\"Movie\" just means \"moving picture.\" By definition, all shows are movies. Actually, they're all talkies. We don't actually have an accepted way of distinguishing between serial films and singular films succinctly, likely because sequels throw a wrench into the whole thing. Thus we use context to figure out what one means.\n\nHere the context is a serial film.\n\nAlso: yes, their wording is a little clumsy and odd. You're only being a dick about it because you didn't like their take.", "Right back at you", "But it was always clear she had an ulterior motive. It just doesn’t come across that way from what we’ve seen.", "He better have a scene where he just bouncing on all fours all the way down the road", "The acting is stiff. The martial arts looks overly choreographed. The kitsch is cranked up Way too high. But dammit, if it dropped tomorrow I would watch the Shit out of it. Did you see those fucking space ships? Ever since the last Expanse season ended I’ve been craving some good sci fi! So glad John Cho got this role. He was born for it. But Faye should have been Olivia Munn right? And Winston Duke for Jet Black. What do I know, hopefully they’ll kick ass.", "I really like some of the slower episodes/scenes in the anime, but the fighting in this trailer looks incredibly slow - like they're fighting in mud.", "Wow, this looks so much better than the other stuff they have released.", "This still feels like a goofy Superbowl car commercial parody of the cartoon, rather than a sincere adaptation.", "Him saying \"what the actual fuck'\" in response to mad Pierrot is what bothers me the most, I think. It's just not the same character. When presented with something completely outlandish Spike Spiegel would maintain his cool and reply with a wry smile, saying something like \"well he certainly knows how to have a good time\", before engaging in a gunfight.\n\nAlso, I love John Cho, but the dude is way too old for the role.", "Outside of a few key episodes the order doesn't really matter though.", "Lmfao the original bebop had all the same type of humor.", "> i liked how they used the songs at the very least\n\nI truly think they rerecorded some of these tracks. I have listened to the entire limited edition collection hundreds of times and there are some really slight and subtle changes in the tracks that they have featured so far. That, for me is exciting and shows that they have put in a lot of effort.", "I’m far too worried about the Sandman adaptation to be concerned by this. Nothing will ever fit everyone’s head canon but I like what I saw and I’m adult enough to separate 2 versions …. I guess …. Maybe", ">it's missing the grit and sophistication of the original\n\nYou can judge all that from a 2min trailer?", "In what way did she give off manic pixie vibes? She was never bubbly, quirky, or whimsical that I recall. It was clear from the first few minutes of her introduction—the very moment things stop going her way—that she was a loud, crude, aggressive, selfish, violent conwoman who used both her body and firearms as weapons freely and interchangeably and was only ever charming long enough to get the cash out of your pocket or a gun under your nose. Femme fatale, possibly? Manic pixie, nah.", "Race issues aren’t exclusive to the US, which you should know considering it seems like you’re from Mexico. And timothee chalamet has got to be a joke", "Never said wasn't an issue. I just wasn't raised the same way so race was never an issue for me these artistic choices are a little weird to me, that's all. And I think Timothee was good in Ladybird, The King and Dune. But it was just the first actor that came to mind, there's probably better ones.", "Um...yea? \n\nYou are aware that I am called the Nostradamus of Movie Quality, right?", "I wonder if they'll add anything extra to the story or just straight up follow the original storyline of the anime 1 for 1", "Cool, it looks exactly as mediocre as I thought it'd be.", "I've read that they did, and they're just hiding the casting from the media.", "Damn, I must have missed the memo. Thanks for enlightening us with your wisdom!", "Seems pretty clearly they're leaving Ed out of the trailer so they can do a fun reveal during the series.", "Anime is almost impossible to faithfully adapt to live action. Even the pacing can't really be replicated, I probably would even say it shouldn't be.", "Am I getting deja vu? You posted this in two different subreddits lol", "Literally nobody calls a TV series a \"serial film\".\n\nJust stop.", "Hmmm I don't think I follow... Can you spiegel it out for me?", "Why the fuck is he so... stiff? Dude's posture is completely wrong and it completely undermines Spike's personality.\n\nSpike is meant to be laid back, a bit of a slacker and scoundrel. His movements should always be 'lazy' but not ungraceful.", "This is a great summary of how I felt about this trailer as well. I really do get the sense of a genuine love for the source material, and for me that goes a LONG way to cover a series as iconic as Cowboy Bebop. I think I’ll be able to forgive quite a bit if I feel that the show creators are as in love with the original show as I am.", "But Spike is white? Does Spike Spiegel sound like a fucking Japanese name to you?", "Why did they make Spike Korean?\n\nEDIT: Why am I being downvoted for a legitimate question?", "Firefly at home:", "Well I hope you're right although that said i think Ed is the toughest to adapt and would honestly hope they saved them for a second season", "I’d throw [Manny Jacinto](https://m.imdb.com/name/nm3254274/) from The Good Place out as an actor who could capture the effortless cool and humor of Spike.", "Imagine if Netflix greenlight sequel and side story anime and promoted them and brought their viewers into anime instead of bringing anime to their viewers via these live action shows that at BEST can only be okay-ish shadows of the original anime.", "white dude with AK looks like he belongs in scooby doo and i love it.", "we've had mid 30 year olds play teens, give him a shot first my dude", "Yep. Spike's the embodiment of the 'heh nothing personnel kid' meme (albeit not in a cringe way but you know what I mean).\n\nJohn Cho doesn't even have that kind of 'cool' in him at all. Not even a tiny bit.", "I've been waiting for this day!", "I don't care what you fellas think, I'm hyped and clearing my schedule for Nov. 19. \n\nSee you, space cowboys.", "I think you might just be falling for Jet's voice. Everything else about him is NOT Jet.", "faye is from singapore. spike is canonically a japanese man and from mars. jet is from a planet called Ganymede and is canonically black and finally ed is french and born on earth.", "She's definitely whimsical. Gambling habit, getting in over her head, running out of gas in space.", "jet in the anime and manga actually has a few calls that show hes black but he also refers to himself in a quote as a black dog.\n\n\"When I was a cop, this was my beat. I’m the Black Dog and when I bite I \n don’t let go. I have no regrets about her, but I’ll settle this score \non my own turf.\"", "> spike is canonically a japanese man \n\nAre you sure? Even if so he's clearly not ethnically Japanese, definitely a white Japanese person.\n\nWhy would a Japanese person be called Spike Spiegel?\n\nDo you also think there are no white people in Singapore? Singapore is a cosmopolitan city, one of the biggest trade hubs in Asia. I lived there many years and there's a huge white population. \n\n'Faye Valentine' is not a Singaporean name.\n\nEDIT: I should say 'traditionally' Singaporean name. As I pointed out - Singapore is a multicultural city. Just like how you have Asian/African/Latin-Americans, you have Singaporeans with European background. While Japan is very homogenous, it's not far fetched to say that Spike is a European-Japanese man, especially when the story is set in the future where presumably the world is a lot more globalised.", "To me, it's missing that 90s, jazz in background, smoking while looking at the orange sun in the water vibe of the anime. Also, the cast and dialogue come across like it's a Kickstarter fan short.", "That after eating shrooms?", "Was he supposed to be Japanese?", "I'm not sure what his nationality is but he's clearly white. I mean his name is Spike Spiegel. Someone else mentioned that he's from Japan though.", "Oh good another shitty live action update we never asked for.", "bro that's exactly how i feel. are you me?", "Spike just never seemed asian to me. I know that's kinda a thing with anime but Spike especially seemed like a western dude.", "John Cho's voice does not work for Spike.", "The dude playing spike is a comedy actor him trying for serious with a dash of depression just comes off flat to me and really misses the cool idgaf vibe spike exudes.", "Neither is Spike? Which Asian country do you know of where people traditionally have names like Spike Spiegel?", "I really don’t know how to feel considering I really love this show , but the casting is a bit off except jet and win idk about the actress for Faye I don’t care about the good looks I just care about the characters traits and John Cho he’s a cool guy but he looks way to old for spike if anything any other Asian actor could’ve taken on the role and his posture is weird , not to mention it dosent really show that he’s smoking or slacking which is spikes biggest personalities. As for the show it’s self it looks weird but also it looks cool that they’re going all 80s super cop drama type. If they get the fight between viscous and spike right then it’s all good but still it’s 50/50 for me on this one.", "Clearly white? Because he has green hair? Is part of a Chinese mafia? Practices Jeet kune do?", "A lot of Batman: Forever style diagonal angles and I'm not sure that's a good thing.", "Practicing Jeet Kune Do makes you not white? Damn, better tell the many white American students who studied under Bruce Lee in California that they're not actually white.\n\nSo what are you saying? Spike Spiegel is actually a Chinese name and Spike is Chinese?", "because that's anime and these are real life people.", "So your argument is that Spike is a white name? I've met zero people in my life named Spike as an American.", "Andrew Koji would have been a better choice.", "why would a black person be called Spike Lee?", "I just can’t take John Cho as Spike seriously though. Spike is supposed to be an effortlessly cool guy, which is quite frankly just not Cho. I mean, go find an unknown for Spike, for crying out loud,p rather than let someone who’s known for playing goofy characters play him.", "Spike flows, like water.", "Which trailer, the Tank one?", "Why Asian? Isn't Spike most likely of Israeli descent? It's never really specified but given his last name and choice of firearms + the fact that he's not drawn like any of the other actually Asian characters in the show there's not much tying him to that. Though the real problem with Cho is his age. Spike is a young guy whose ability to move fluidly is as much a part of his character as his dialogue. I'm pretty sure they roto'd Bruce Lee for his intro kick, and a character that can move like that shows his competence without having to rely on exposition.\n\nWith regards to Jet, he's described as being \"always pale\" in the show. That being said he's by far the best cast one on the show it seems. \n\nAlso, what isn't racist about saying \"giving a role from an Asian to a white guy = bad, but giving a role from a white character to a black guy = good\". It seems like a sentiment that could only come from a framework that views those races as more pitiful and existing on hierarchy that requires your well intentioned intervention.", "There’s nothing wrong with adaptations, in fact, animes are usually a lot more adaptable than comics, as you can find WAY WAY more material that’s based in reality than the super hero stuff that’s the vast majority of comics are about.\n\nUnfortunately, in the west, these adaptations aren’t given much care, and always turn into crap.", "\"Average\" might be a little optimistic.", "Because he's American? Lmao what kind of question is that?\n\nwhY DoEs ThIs blAcK AMeRicAn gUy hAvE aN AmErIcAN NaMe?", "It's an English name.\n\nSpike Jonze, Spike Lee, Spike Robinson.\n\n'Spiegel' is a European/white surname.", "Is not being stiff an anime thing?", "i dunno man, everybody seems so hard up for this to be just as good as the anime, or match it's style/tone/characterization 100% regardless of the obvious limitations of changing mediums, but that just feels like such a pessimistic and self-defeating way of engaging with entertainment. \n\nSure, it's probably not gonna be as good as the show(read: definitely not) and yeah, there are things in it I won't like(i agree cho definitely feels a bit old to be spike) but mostly what I see is a weird, fun-as-hell, lovingly made tribute to one of the best animes Ive still ever seen 20 years later. \n\nI've seen enough to feel excited about this and am ready to sit back and enjoy the ride.", "> could only come from a framework that views those races as more pitiful and existing on hierarchy that requires your well intentioned intervention.\n\n\n\nbecause white washing is endemic. was reading an interview with the directors of the movie paper tigers. they described the movie as rooted in growing up as asian americans in seattle in the 90's, but every single meeting they had ended with, \"we'll talk if you make them white.\" This is the norm for the industry, it's still operating on the same principal that has john wane play Ghangas Kahn.\n\nI know they said Jet was always pale, I just thought of him as black because the voice acting was a huge part of the show. Saw an interview with Bloom where he said they knew this was either going to make or break high quality dubbing going forward.", "All I'm saying is to me, everyone in their crew's ethnicity was unclear. Spike, Jet, Faye, Ed all had non defining characteristics. Deeming a person is a particular ethnicity by their name alone seems dubious, particularly when it is a Japanese animation about a long distant future. \n\nLike when they had the white cowboy in Cowboy funk, they made him obviously white. Spike contrasts with him. Not saying Spike is not white, but in also saying it's not \"clear\" as you say.", "I haven't watched the anime in who knows how long, but I thought Spike Spiegel was just a fake moniker he adopted after someone tried to kill him...", "The original:\n\n * Spike: Fuck it... It is how it is.\n * Jet: Goddamn kids, I'm too old for this shit.\n * Faye: Femme Fatale™\n\nFrom what I can gather from the live action trailers:\n\n * Spike: Similar to the original, but if the script-writer was scouted from Wattpad.\n * Jet: Goddamn kids, I'm too old for this shit.\n * Faye: \"I am a Strong, Independent Woman™!\"\n\n...Am I missing the mark here?", "Their exact ethnicities are unclear but Spiegel is a VERY German name (it is literally a German word meaning 'mirror') but of course this is the future where there are different races all over the world just like there are today.\n\nBut I think you're confusing nationality with ethnicity. Spike can be a Japanese citizen. He could have grown up and lived in Japan all his life for all we know. But you don't get a surname like Spiegel without having European ancestry.\n\nYou may as well try to convince me that a character called Klaus Wagner is ethnically Vietnamese.", "That's what happens when you have a 50 year old trying to do fight scenes.", "It should have been Keanu, that's all I'm saying.", "In the third volume of the manga, Cowboy Bebop illustrated by Yutaka Nanten, Spike is described as \"oriental\", an outdated term for Asian.[4]\n\nFrom his wiki article. Shrug.", ">Are you sure? Even if so he's clearly not ethnically Japanese, definitely a white Japanese person.\n\nHe is called \"oriental\" at one point. I think that is about it.", "Really? This looks like absolute trash, Spike and Faye are not at all how they should be and Jet just feels boring.\n\nOf this didn't have the watermark you could 100% guess that Netflix made this adaptation, it's so bland.", "John wick did it , John mclane did it and Peter Venkman did it . They are real actors.", "aggreed", "I don't think we'll be delighted, nothing they have shown so far is delightful.", "They didn't \"need\" a well known Asian lead. Star power is overrated, hell no one knew who Peter Dinklage was before GoT and then suddenly he was many people's favorite actor on the show. And Spike's ancestral heritage has no bearing on his character whatsoever, hell he's from Mars.\n\nCombined with not caring about making Jett black (and Mustafa seems good in the part from this trailer anyway) it feels like a copout to both \"we need star power\" and \"we need to appease the twitter mob\" instead of \"we need an actor that fits the character\"", ">This looks incredible!\n\nYou're joking.... right?", "Jet is NOT spot on, kutos to actors and writers for a show you have YET to see and even mention it yourself? This comment lacks the common sense but yet was deliverd as rational opinion.", "For me, this trailer was worse. It hits all the same \"beats\" that every generic trailer hits. It didn't leave me interested or excited, it just seemed really bland. If this was a trailer for a brand-new IP it wouldn't appeal at all.\n\nThe first trailer was exciting despite it being a little too much. It showcased creative direction and demonstrates that the new Bebop won't just be a remake (hopefully). Remakes are boring.", "That's probably more to do with the fact that he worked for a Chinese mafia.", "That would be more to do with the fact that the worked for the Chinese, I'd imagine.\n\nI mean we don't know what guy who wrote the character intended, it's just a bit weird and unlikely that he'd choose the German surname Spiegel for someone who's meant to be ethnically Asian.\n\nMaybe mixed race?", "There is no such that as an American name. There are stereotypical Caucasian American names or African American names. Even besides that, I got news for you, Lee is not a traditional last name for an American American.", "Do black Americans not have English names over there?\n\nI got news for you, Spiegel is a German word and German last name. It is not a traditional last name for any Asian person.\n\nYou're seriously telling me that if a comic book had a character called Takahashi Mitsuhiro, you wouldn't think it's weird if claimed he's supposed to be a white ethnically German guy of European descent with no Japanese ancestry?", "I don't care what his race is. Spikes race is unclear. That's why John Cho playing Spike, just for looks, does not bother me.", "I would probably call those hot-headed, irresponsible, or impulsive. Doesn't really achieve the dreamy sort of quality that whimsical describes; Faye is completely grounded in the real world I think, to the degree that it makes her cynical and jaded.", "I'm not bothered by John Cho's race either. I'm bothered by the fact that he makes a terrible Spike. Lots of other Asian actors would do a better job.\n\nI was just responding to your comment asking if Spike was supposed to be Japanese.", "Those fight scenes look terrible. I don't know anything about Cowboy Bebop but if you're going to have a role that features a lot of fighting you should probably cast someone who can fight. What I saw in this is giving me Iron Fist flashbacks. Everything else looks interesting though so I'll probably check out the anime now.", "The line at the end \"Depends on who you ask\" seems to have the right feel to it, so it may just be the scenes they editied together favour a serious tone.\n\nSpike could be serious, so it's not completely out of character.", "Did they retcon his origin? I didn't see anything to suggest that. It's implied he has a shady past which... yeah, seems about right to me.", "The show has the word Bebop in the title. As in Bebop Jazz. Spike is a big fan of the genre and makes references to Bebop musicians like Charlie Parker (horn player) in the show. This is also why the episodes are called sessions. \n\nAlso I think its cool.", "Don't count your turds before they hatch.", "They were describing how he looked at the time, so that seems slightly unlikely.", "> They are trying, like they are really trying with this one\n\nIf that were true, surely they would have cast someone 10-20 years younger for Spike, or at least taught him how to smile.\n\nMaybe someone would have explained to the choreographer that Spike's meant to have an almost insultingly casual/flowing fighting style, not a flashy over the top one.", "All evidence points to him being half Asian or European-Japanese like I said.", "Didn't you specifically ask why they made Spike Korean?", "Yes, I just thought it was a weird choice especially when there's been a lot of controversy about 'race swapping'. \n\nLike you and I both agree - the race of the characters don't matter so long as they can capture the same personality.\n\nIt's more alluding to the fact that whether or not he's white or Japanese, making him Korean was a strange choice. Honestly I'd put it down to most western audiences seeing all Asians as interchangeable.", "Look again, in the scene around ~1:27 he is holding a Jericho and it looks modified at least somewhat similarly to[ the one he used in the original series](http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Cowboy_Bebop) - at least the currently available ones look slightly different/have different controls, I'm too tired to dig up pics of older models.", "It looks like it was just in that shootout with vicious. Where in the anime he was loading mags for two pistols. In fact, in many scenes here, you can clearly see that's is the correct model (941R) down to the lack of rail on the bottom and rail mounted safety. Although they did seem to swap out Jets Walther p99 for the Chiappa Rhino.", "So she's a grounded, irresponsible, cynical, hot-headed, jaded and impulsive woman.\n\nSounds about right. She sounds like a hypocrite.", "The original anime wasn't always gritty all the time. It was wuite chill and goofy for most of it", "Hey mister, this is the stairway to heaven. You know that don'tcha?", "I assume this only is when they start to meet her, rather than all the time", "This trailer is such a weird mix of high and low production value...", "Faye looks like a good fit, Spike on the other hand, could have better hair\n\nedit; in retrospect this is a stupid comment. I thoroughly enjoyed the whole season, even enjoyed cringing at Ed in the end.", "Nope. It's not gonna feel the same. John Cho is not Spike. He doesn't put out the same cool and smug charm that Spike has. So I'm gonna pretend like this is a whole new thing unrelated to the original Cowboy Bepop, because I still think I can enjoy it like that.", "Don’t be reductive. A name can be just a name because of circumstance. The manga creator stated he’s Asian but of course you know better because of a name….", "If he had a tinge of cheek to his 'I go by Spike Spiegel these days' , or anything in the trailer I could enjoy it a lot more.\n\nHe's going too much into the 'I'm a dark brooding character' rather than leaning into the 'I have a dark past, but I'm constantly wearing a jovial mask.'", "Spike looks like he’s balding.\n\nThe Faye character looks insufferable.\n\nI think the real problem with the adaptation is the director decided to play up the anime tropes instead of taking the source material seriously. I was hoping the end product would be something closer to Robert Rodriguez’ adaptation of Sin City when they made the announcement.", "Its almost as if its an anime and the naming conventions of this fictional future don't follow current day earth! If anything Spiegel is a German name and Spike is certainly not german. I can remember if Fayes birth name comes up in the show but I wouldn't assume that a conwoman uses a real name", "Cho is a Korean American though, no more Japanese than Timothee.", "Lee is an English surname as well as one in many Asian countries. Brett Lee, the Australian cricketer, is another example.", "That abomination of a Death Note movie is actually getting a sequel. And apparently they want the sequel to be more faithful to the manga? Somehow?\n\n And the original creators had good things to say about it:\n\n>It exceeded my expectations. There was high level of quality, sophistication, and attention to every detail. This is what a Hollywood Death Note movie should be. Personally, I was engrossed with the ending! In a good way, it both followed and diverged from the original work so the film can be enjoyed, of course by not only the fans, but also by a much larger and wider audience.\n\nThat really made me question my sanity. but then again, their newest work is kinda shit, so maybe they wrote all of Death Note by accident.", "Ah yes, white people forbidden.\n\nMan, netflix is one racist motherfucker", "Because if Cho was too old, we need someone 8 years older than him", "Looks like it's got a good budget and the VFX are nice. But the humour in it feels way too cheesy. Got that sort of Marvel cheese feel. I know some people love that, but Cowboy Bebop ain't that to me. It's like they want it to be Guardians of the Galaxy with a different splash of paint.", "Spike jokes to cope; this guy jokes to get laughs.", "Lol if you’re from Mexico go ask the Afro mexicanos how important race is in Mexico…\n\nRace is an issue nearly all over the world because there are few societies with a homogeneous population.\n\nThe only people who think race isn’t an issue are those who racism doesn’t affect and thus they benefit from it and usually by default don’t care.", "I'd say Spike is within 'understandable deviation' from the films...on the edge of it, but he's still obviously derived from the same source material.\n\nFaye though...Faye isn't Faye. Seriously, \"nut buckets\"?\n\nIt feels like there's an overall shift from the tone of the source material too. This feels much more...silly, I guess? Like the original had comedic moments and goofy stuff in it, but it was seasoning rather than the main ingredient.", "mainstream audiences are more forgiving with lack of nuances. \n\nNot to mention, Netflix is singlehanded fighting a streaming war on two fronts: One with other streaming services and another with Hollywood itself (Disney, more specifically if we are being really honest)\n\nThis means its all about churning content out every year at this point. They care little about the stories and more about accumulating large content library that justifies for people to perpetually renew their subscription. \n\nSo because of this, many recent Netflix shows come across as bland fast food type quality when they had their start as gourmet food quality.", "And somebody who isn't like twice the age of the character they're supposed to be playing. Dude's 50 and it shows.", "Watching the trailer, I couldn't help but think that they should have gotten someone who sounded like Spike more than looked like him. His monotone delivery adds SO much to that and John just sounds kinda bored.", "He's Martian.", "Excuse me sir Keanu is ageless", "Whatever happens. The Soundtrack by Yoko Kanno will always be a legendary classic!", "See, when i scan read the title i think its a TMNT spin off. Then, realise its not Rocksteady and Bebop.", "This looks like it's going to ruin something I love. The ships look cool, though.", "As you say, it's anime, not to mention one with a lot of Western influences, so that's not an unnatural perception to have if Western is your default. However, Spike's appearance is based on [Yūsaku Matsuda](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUXodeuWoAIbBEx.jpg) so I'm pretty sure Watanabe didn't see him that way.", "Multidimensional cable. I can dig it.", "It really looks like shit", "Faye should be hotter and bitchier. A true bad attitude type.", "It's an adaptation. It was never sold as a 1:1 remake. They're bound to make some changes to put their own unique spin on the story that we all love.\n\nI dunno why this makes some people so angry, though. But some of the comments in this thread are pretty rough.", "B. A. N. G.", "I've never watched the anime but this has peaked my interest. I'll give it a shot since they decided to go and cancel Altered Carbon, I need another fun sci-fi Netflix show.", "You can't please Anime fans with a live action adaptation. \n\nI've never watched the cartoon and never will. But will watch this.", "Spike hitting the dummy at 1:39 is how I imagine someone seeing and hitting the thing for the first time.", "Well they certainly didnt animate spike to be Asian so I'm pretty sure Watanabe saw him as a white guy.", "They aren't trying. They casted John cho...", "Actually looks good.", "The casting sucks. Damn", "This is the clean trailer that I've been waiting for. The other two were really more akin to sizzle reels for the editing team, and this is finally one where we get to see how it's going to look normally.\n\nAnd I think it looks fine. It's just the right amount of style to capture the vibe of the anime without looking too over the top. That was my main concern with the last trailer, that they were gonna be gimmicky the whole time, but this looks to be about the right balance I was looking for.\n\nWhatever you can say about this, this definitely isn't another Death Note 2017 where it was just a generic Americanization, these folks here clearly care about Bebop and want to make it cool. We'll see how well it works as a whole package, but for now I'll give credit where credit is due; I'm interested.", "I'm not bothered by things not sticking to source material as long as they still tell a good story. I don't think the original has to be the only way a story can be told or is automatically the best way the story could have been told.\n\nThere are plenty of movies that are better than the books they were based on.", "Shouldn't it be more of a space western like Firefly in terms of vibes?", "I've never watched cowboy bebop, so I think it looks amazing. Cannot wait.", "This is better than the previous trailers but there is just something about the way it looks. Maybe the cinematography or the lack of filters on the video but it looks kinda cheap? Idk. It doesn't look like other popular adaptations like The Witcher. It looks like the other bad Japanese live action anime films.", "There’s no way this is good … right?", "Wayyy better than casting Ryan Reynolds or Dwayne Johnson. I can actually watch this", "Why does the lead have to be old as fuck? Even the guy knows he's too old for the part and said he so himself that he had to get over it. The state of asian actors is pathetic. You couldnt find one asian dude that was young and in shape? Not one other viable Asian actor that can star in an action role?\n\nNext time Asians bitch about not having roles in Hollywood like in ghost in the shell you can justify it by saying there are no Asian actors. Either the movie gets white/woke washed or it doesn't happen.", "Is that the hotel set from Altered Carbon?", "Nobody asked for this but I guess they get better at these things with every failed attempt. Hope people enjoy it and that some people find the anime as a result.", "As a real life person you can have some dark stuff happen in your life and not make it affect how it makes you behave in a day to day basis. It's more real in fact to change your personality in different situations than be a one-dimensional 'action hero stock character' - I personally find the serious delivery of this line less convincing than if he was being a bit more tongue and cheek. It's almost like the delivery of \"The name's Bond, James Bond.\" It should be a little more self-aware of it's upfront delivery and always it is.\n\nMaybe I'm diving way too deep into a single line and a single trailer but I'm doing my best not to not set my hopes too high.\n\nEDIT: Deleted comment before me said \"thats because this is real life and not anime\" - I distinctly remember the lack of capital T (maybe there was an apostrophe) but maybe I'm being too judgemental.", "Look, everyone needs their shows that are on in the background while you exercise or getting in that morning frittata. I think it's going to be great for what it is. Looking forward to it.", "I think this genuinely looks good. They clearly care about what they are doing and are not just trying to do a huge cash grab. That said I still dont like the way they portray the main characters", "> hell no one knew who Peter Dinklage was before GoT\n\nExcuse you. I agree that star power is overrated but that's a bad example. You could literally have chosen any of the other main cast of GOT", "I see this as a reimagination and not 1:1 adaption which for me personally is fine.\n\nI see why people get upset over spike, I'm also not a huge fan of the change but I'm staying cautiously optimistic. Maybe he will grow on me over time.\n\nBut like Book adaptions I don't expect that they just redo everything in live action but use the source material as inspiration. It also stems from the fact that I have no interest in seeing the same series in live action without any changes becausecwhat would be the point.\n\nI still don't see a reason why this needed to be made (except money) but I'm curious to see a new interpretation of an Anime which I love dearly.", "Remember how trailers are cut. The shots of Pierrot and the shot of Spike saying \"What the actual fuck?\" were probably not in the same episode.\n\nI am surprised they didn't add a record scratch in between the two shots.\n\nAt any rate, if I want to watch the exact same Cowboy Bebop as the anime, I will just watch the anime. So if Netflix wants to change things around, I don't mind as long as they don't have Vicious turn out to be Spike's Cyborg Father who turns good in episode 2 and is the comic relief for the rest of the series.", "Bortles!", "[ Jump to 01:01 @ Cowboy Bebop \| Official Trailer \| Netflix](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULCIHP5dc44&t=0h1m1s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Netflix, Video Popularity: 93.04%, Video Length: [02:41])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@00:56](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULCIHP5dc44&t=0h0m56s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "I just finished watching Silicon Valley and all I see when Spike comes on screen is John Cho with a Bighead hairstyle.", "He's based on the actor Yusuke Matsuda, who had the same hair, face, and demeanor", "Have you seen the shitty set design and camera work and dialogue from the last trailer? If say they aren't trying too hard", "Ah damn. I never was a fan of the casting for Spike but I never had an idea of who they could get instead. But now I do...", "Ya spike is clearly drawn as a white guy.. and the martial arts scenes are gonna suck", "And blah to fucking Faye. I was so fucking hyped to see her come to life in live action... John Cho is meh but the Faye casting is what's offputting for me.", "Honestly, \"gigantic Cowboy Bebop fan film\" isn't the worst case scenario for this and will be fun to watch even if it isn't \"the best version of a Cowboy Bebop live action show\"", "Nooooo. NO! NOOOGOD NO!", "This trailer just saved me at least an hour of my life. Thank you. Looks awful.", "I've tried watching some of the \"best\" across the genre and while the themes and style was different among them, they always had terrible dialogue and exposition. Death note, attack on titan, monster, cowboy Bebop, full metal Alchemist. They all suffered from jarring awful writing that always seemed like it was dumbed down for children and teenagers.\n\nAnime is like the YA fiction of TV", "Dude, I never said racism isn't a thing everywhere, it's just this way of \"dealing with race\" is mostly an american thing.", "Please don't mess this up. Please don't mess this up. Please don't mess this up. Please don't mess this up.", "Hard to believe they couldn't have found someone younger to play Spike. I think they just casted John Cho, because he was John Cho.", "Yeah, they even mention it in this trailer", "As a huge fan of the series, it's definitely my favorite anime ever, I don't think this is meant for me. To me it just feels like cashing in on an established franchise and appealing to more mass audience, and I'm simply not interested. Maybe I'll watch it eventually, but not in theaters.", "Who should note really wanted to play spike", "What ethnicity are [these stick figures](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA-0mGCU4AAYP6K?format=png&name=small)? \n \nThey didn't animate Spike to be Asian. But they didn't animate him to be white, either. The basic character design that most manga and anime use utilizes a principle called mukokuseki, \"statelessness\". Characters deliberately lack most identifiable ethnic features, which allows people to fill in the blanks with what some refer to as their \"default human being\". On the plus side, it allows people to project more of themselves onto a character and better identify with them. But unfortunately it also means some people will be unable to reconcile their perceived ethnicity of a character with the creator explicitly saying he based him on a Japanese dude.", "...what evidence is that?", "While it could be the trailer, the tone of this seems off, especially the comedy. The comedic parts of the anime weren’t written to be slapstick haha funny. Bebop is a very dark, depressing anime with characters running from their past. Comedy is introduced in a very unique Japanese fashion to break/ease tension of these serious moments so the audience isn’t always on edge. It’s why Ed is important. She was the offset for the other three. Here it seems like MCU trying to put in funny 1 liners.", "A few seasons?! God damn.", "Oh yeah, you're right I see it now. Because I'm native American I see spike as white and jet black as Vietnamese. Makes sense.", "Vast improvement with this trailer", "Yea but 99% of the haters here aren't trying to be an action star so I don't see your point.", "I disagree, and it’s 100% because we just have very different ideas of what spike looks like and how he acts. And I think that’s because anime is what it is, especially when we’re all watching English dubs or subtitles. Anime characters are usually fairly vague when it comes to details. They’re meant to be easy to draw and replicable, and because of that I think we project a lot onto these characters. There’s always a bit of open space for us to fill in for these characters, and it makes live action adaptations hard to make satisfying for everyone.", "Nuh uh.", "I agree, but they got Ein right so I’m good with that at least. Also do you know if they are also releasing this in Japanese or only English? I can’t find a Japanese version so I’m assuming it’s just English", "I mean, yes, you do, because even as a native american, that's your bias. It's like you're making a concerted effort to evade the point.", "This is the best dialogue they could cut together for a trailer? Downvote me to oblivion, but every anime I’ve watched has brain dead dialogue. Cool concepts and stories, but my god… the dialogue is horrible. Same here.", "Oh no, please don't get me wrong. I'm only saying most people assume Spike is white because that's the default human being informed by their own ethnicity. You claiming he's white after being shown a picture of the Japanese actor he's based on is just due to you being a moron.", "Not familiar with this whatsoever but looks cool and I love John Cho, so definitely will check it out.", "[That is in part because the English dub is the extremely rare case of where it was actually better done than the Japanese voice actors overall and especially on Spike.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAcif7qhNzo)\n\nThe Japanese version just sounds wrong and I watch like 99% of anime using subs because I prefer the better voice acting that much.", ">Faye: Femme Fatale\n\n>Faye: \"I am a Strong, Independent Woman™!\"\n\nI don't see how these are mutually exclusive...?", "I wasn't a fan of the cartoon, but live action I am sold on.", "Its a fake name..?", "That was the original term for a continuous week-to-week scripted film. Serial --> Series over time.\n\nYou all want to play language police, you're going to have to realize that the English language is deliberately fluid.", "Humor is in the delivery. This delivery is poor. There are things that animation can get away with without coming across as jarring or destroying the tone that live action just can't emulate. It shouldn't try to.", "FUCK. YES.", "Spike Spiegel isn't his real name. Also, I live in California and there are so many people of mixed European and Asian ancestry with all kinds of names that it seems silly that Bebob's pulp sci-fi future wouldn't have more of the same.", "I don't think Faye as the fanservice femme fatale would work in today's climate. Hell, it's a little cringe now, looking back on it.\n\nThat said, I agree this characterization isn't it. Could have kept it closer in attitude while still covering her up.", "The point of trailers is literally to sell you on the product. They're not advertising the grit and sophistication, so the assumption that they aren't there is fair. Chalk it up to poor marketing.", "> Chiappa Rhino\n\nOh great another show that makes me want to abuse my credit line for the Rhino", "Don’t like the Spike casting at all. Not sure why they had to get an Asian actor to play him, it really limits their pool of actors to choose from.", "It’s like they don’t understand that Cowboy Bebop is a noir.", "Looks pretty good. Haven't seen the anime though so that may have something to do with it.", "Because the original fans want to see a different take on the setting. Not a rewritten story so alien that it just comes off as shit fanfiction.\n\nAlso it's not the first adaptation that Netflix fucked up", "Never seen the anime but that looks like fun.", "Yeah, I really feel this. As part of the second 'avante-garde' branch I've been turning my back more and more on cinema & television, only watching that which appears to be truly great.\n\nI grew up reading a lot, slowed down for a few years due to various things. But, over the past five years or so as I've been moving away from films & television my reading has picked up again. Increasingly feeling like, if you want a decent plot and indepth story line with actual meaning then literature is the only way to go. Otherwise there just isn't enough cinematic content to make subscription prices worthwhile.", "The director of half the show has worked on mostly CW network schlock, therefore we get something that looks tone-deaf and amateurishly low budget.", "That looks fucking rough", "It's the hipster mentality, the old #not like other girls #enlightened teenager angst that is still rooted in their entire identity.\n\nDoesn't help that social media just further validates this type of behaviour", "Did we watch the same show? Seriously 80 percent of these comments sound like they haven't watched bebop", "I don't think its as bad as people pan it out to be. I saw the Death note trailer and knew that was gonna be trash. This might have a shot and and hopefully they are keeping all the good scenes to be seen and not show it in the trailer. One thing I am wondering though..... Is Ed not gonna be in this?", "That is kinda of the same thing? Carpe diem is nihilistic. Cho looks kinda hesitant whereas spike is absurdly overconfident.", "No.", "Yuk....... don't even need to be an og bebop fan to know that. May as well watch cats...", "Ah yes, I too remember Spike \"I love animals, children, and stubborn women\" Spiegel having endless patience for Faye conning her way into the Bebop and acting reckless during bounties.", "“Ed — everybody wants to know about Ed!” Nemec says. “People will be… very delighted when they watch the season.”\n\nthat better mean, shes in it for more than one episode.", "Yeah Dinklage was definitely one of the more well known (along with Bean and maybe Dance). There were tons of no-names on that show to choose from.", "Ew no, please no.", "I waited until deeper in the comments to say that I think this live action one looks awesome. Don't tell anybody, please.", "It could be a shot for shot remake and y’all would still be mad. To be honest, it looks like it will be a fun watch.", "Fuck yeah, dude!", "Why do people keep saying this...Spike's fighting is flashy as hell...", "Those stick figures are stateless, sure.\n\nBut if I get some markers and give one a brown skin tone, and another an olive skin tone, I don't get to claim the one I didn't color is still \"stateless\"", "Kind of baffled by everyone being so critical. I mean, it's live action? Historically they've all been absolutely terrible. This actually looks gorgeous, and it looks like they are being faithful to the source material in many aspects. \n\nSure, a lot of it will probably be off the mark and infuriating... Like yes John Cho doesn't ooze Spike Spiegel coolness, but maybe we'll get some moments that feel like cowboy bebop. Even moments where no one speaks, but Yoko Kanno's music plays over some really cool shots. Just that is worth it to me.", "What? That’s like saying your song has too many notes. Faye is Faye. Why should she change to placate today’s fickle sensibilities.", "Dudes definitely got his voice down. Sounds exactly like Jet.", "Also a big fan, with concerns. This is a labor of love. They are doing it as good as they possibly can. That said, there's sometimes a magic in something that can't be recreated. I won't know if that's there for me until I watch the real thing. The pacing. The little things. And if it works for me or doesn't, it might still work for someone else or not. I'm curious to see how well they pull it off. But whatever the outcome it wasn't for lack of trying. If it fails it just shows how subtle the things are that make for greatness and how little we truly understand them.", "Let's say a character has \"olive\" skin, what ethnicity are they? Italian? Greek? Iranian? Portuguese? German? Argentinian? There's a whole lot more than four ethnicities in the world \n \nThere's a ton of options. All you can do is rule out certain combinations, but even then people will be annoyed at word of god.", "I don't think it's ever discussed, but there is a case for him being Chinese descended since:\n\n* He is from Mars, and the parts of Mars we see in the show feature a lot of Mandarin language and overall Chinese Culture.\n\n* He uses and is knowledgeable of Bruce Lee's fighting style.\n\nHonestly I don't think it matters or is important to his character. Faye, on the other hand, is likely from Singapore, since the location in her flashbacks are very similar to a city in Singapore.", "And his voice just isn’t anywhere close to the Spike voice", ">The Spike I remember was happy go lucky\n\nare you High...", "Ah yes, I too think that \"I don't like X\" means \"I need to threaten to kill X\". Tell me you didn't watch the show without telling me.", "People adapt stories for modern audiences and change them to better appeal to their tastes and mores. The stories change because they are being told in a different place.", "I'm not commenting on the quality -- I'm replying to the \"I will be very disappointed if she isn't in this series.\"", "Kingdom hearts vibes when they were fighting by the stained glass", "I feel the woman playing Faye didn’t do her homework", "Riveting conversation.", "Then it's a different story.", "This definitely looks like the most faithful live-action adaptation of an anime that I've seen in a long time, but how come they got the entire gang except Edward?", "Agreed. Emilia Clark or Kit Harrington were barely known before.", "Hot Damn.\n\nHOT DAMN", "ITT wildly different opinions on which character doesn't resonate with the anime for x,y,z.\n\nlesson: people gonna hate hard-core regardless. the original still exists if this new adaptation sucks. keep the expectations very low and don't jump on the negativity bandwagon until I've watched it. \n\ndefault position these days is to hate fuck whatever new show or game is coming out. pretty exhausting way to consume tbh. you're all gonna watch it. just let your brain go smooth for a bit and see what happens \n\nim grillpillin hard lol", "They’re gonna make Ed a non binary minority whatever the fuck person I’m betting on it. Like some point about the character will have some woke bullshit", "I guarantee that more than half of those who watch this show will not have watched the original anime so expectations aren't going to be so high. This looks like a fun show and looking forward to watching it", "And i thought jet was white lol", "god forbid someone has an opinion different from yours. not everyone has super high expectations for this show. take a chill pill", "If anything they improved the origin by making Spike a new name (to evade his past). The diehards here won't admit the anime had any holes though.", "I'm pretty excited too. I think I'll have to avoid reddit discussion about it when it comes out because I have a feeling a bunch of idiot fanboys are going to be shitting all over it constantly.", "Which is why you should assume it's shit.", "Why is Spike asian? He's supposed to be an Jew iirc", "or don't jump to conclusions because I don't have to?", "http://puu.sh/Il9Fz.png", "I know you're right. But they wouldn't have to do any of that because \"Edward is Edward\".", "Now THIS looks way better than the teaser! This gets me excited.", "Spike has been terribly miscast\n\nAnd faye. Wow. Where are the tits. Cmon.", "Same. All the anime fans hate it and don't realize this wasn't made for them. This was made for people who don't watch anime and have no idea what a Cowboy Bebop is. I've never seen the cartoon, but this looks dope. I can't wait to watch it! It's also funny how they act like this somehow ruins the original cartoon or something. It didn't go anywhere guys. You can still watch it whenever you want lol.", "Bunch of children upset that this isn't exactly like their beloved cartoon that the vast majority of people have never seen or let alone even heard of.", "This looks fun!", "that what they said about heith ledger as the joker. Not saying this is going to be some epic performance, but I've seen 6 minuets of footage.", "Spike does look very Japanese.\n\nJohn Cho however doesn't look very Japanese, so it's still a mismatched casting if you want accuracy to the source material.", "Except Heath Ledger was actually a good actor and wasn't adapting anime.", "u/BigUptokes thanks. Still not crazy for this; but hearing Ed, and Ms Kanno, will be included helps.", "I think there's more depth to fay than you're giving her. Sexualized, sure, but thats part of characterization not just fan service.", "I don’t care what anyone says, both trailers have made me smile while watching them. I’m into it!", "Oh dip, jason!", "You can base someone off of someone else and still make them different. Spikes skin is undeniably white.", "You're essentially arguing Romeo & Juliet is a different story than Romeo+Juliet (1996).\n\nYou're right, while also being wrong. \nThat's like saying there's only one correct recipe to making chicken soup.\n\nThis is the Netflix version of the Cowboy Bebop story.\nIt might not be the chicken soup we grew up with, but we can still enjoy the hot meal.", "GoT is an example that can counter your point. Dinklage played a side character in the first season of the show. Sean Bean was the main lead of that first season, and he is definitely no \"no name\" actor.", "Jesus christ. Ew.", "he wqas the pritty boy from A Knights Tale who all the fans knew would ruin the joker. \n\nfans suck at casting.", "Yes, yes it should.", "brokeback", "Andrew Koji from Warrior\n\n[headshot](https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZ9v0s2P4hSetAo3T4oySpioZAv-U3ZEMJ3iGV2X9aRv9rkpB5)\n\n[flexing on em.](https://pressroom.warnermedia.com/us/ca/image/andrew-koji-5?language_content_entity=en)\n\nCho has chops but just doesn’t look the part imo. A bit too hammy also although I assume that’s more just the directing. Koji is a bit more deadpan than spike in warrior but I could easily see him upping his wry humor as he has the complete physicality to play the part", "I’m like you, I watched most of the series as a kid but never finished. Thing is, the characters were very well realized on that show, and I still remember a lot about their personalities. The more I see of this show, the more wrong it feels. Particularly Faye. She’s a totally different character in these trailers. \n\nThat being said, I’ll still give it a shot, since Teen Titans was much better than the awful trailers made it out to be, but I don’t have much hope it’ll be good.", "I don’t know man, I find her physically attractive, but her personality is a big turn off.", "how do you think comics nerds in 2008 reacted to a gay cowboy as the joker? shitting on him for being in a knights tale was the polite criticism.", "I think spike isn’t as aloof or tired as he should be.", "I mean, so does spike though? Honestly I wish he looked more tired in the trailer.", "I don't care about comic nerds. I'm talking about the actual talent.", "It's only \"cringe\" to wokie fruitcakes like you. Also \"today's climate\" lol. You do know that most NORMAL people are sick of all this woke shit. It's just the producers and other people working behind the scenes that are milking this trend. But it's not something that's built to last.", "The current woke era is not a product of audience's tastes changing, but a small minority of zealots whining about shit no one cares about, and the corporations listening to them. And now they're just milking it. But it will end. This current era isn't built to last.", "It looks like crap. Seriously. Anyone who thinks this is going to be good has bad taste. The worst part is that NO ONE ASKED FOR SOME SHITTY LIVE ACTION REMAKE OF COWBOY BEBOP! THE ORIGINAL ANIME WAS FINE THE WAY IT WAS!", "the critisysm about cho is that he's not the age spike is in the source material, that's very comic book nerd.", "He's too old and not talented enough. Those can both be true.", ">I can't be angry that there's more Beebop to consume and talk about lately.\n\nSo you're opinion is essentially that milking a franchise with sterile reboots and remakes is a \"good thing\"?. You are the reason why the entertainment industry sucks nowadays. You have shitty taste. Fact. This whole \"the more the better\" mentality is stupid, and only shows that you vastly prefer quantity over quality. If people want to experience Cowboby Bebop, they can watch the original. It's perfectly fine the way it is, and it doesn't need some fruity live-action remake.", "Okay. I wasn't sure if I just mixed it up with Trigun.", "Faye is Ramona Flowers. And not from the books, but from the movie.\n\nGod, Why?", "No it fucking isn't. We didn't need a live-action remake. No one ASKED for a live-action remake. The original anime is fine the way it is. The people who support all these remakes and reboots that are coming out nowadays have shitty taste.", "You have shitty taste if you think this'll be good.", "how is he too old? we don't know how old this spike is. We know how old he was in the anime, but adaptations should change things to tell the best story possible. slavish devotion to source material means choosing accuracy over quality. For example all the hobbits in LOTR were the wrong age. pippin is 22 in the books, which would be about 14 in human years. \n\nAdd in that the target market for the show are people who never watched the anime, I don't see why people are so certain this will be awful.\n\nI liked him as Sulu, haven't seen him in much since.", "He's 50 years old. He can't pull off the action. He's just too old at this point. It's not just a him thing, I'm sick of these old ass actors not realizing their age. Bruce Willias in that god awful cosmic sin, De Niro in Irishman etc.", "I hope this is good... I love this show too much to watch it burn", "with modern steroids age is far less of a factor.", "> well known Asian\n\nis cho really that well known?", "This could have been decent if they made better casting choices. Really it just feels unnecessary", "eh i feel like his age really caught up with him in the last few years. he still looks great for his age but he doesnt look so young anymore.", "Come on Netflix how many times do you need to learn this lesson?", "Man, after seeing this I'm getting more and more worried about Netflix's adaptation of Gundam.", "Very true but I think that tone would be really hard to pull off in live action without being cringy.", "Spike's personality shifted depending upon what story was being told in a given episode. He was quite broody and serious in episodes centered on his past & Vicious but jovial and carefree in every other episode. I believe the latter was what made people like Spike as a character and it's what we remember most since the majority of the episodes are like this.\n\nThis trailer does seem skewed toward the serious broody Spike.", "Yeah, I feel like all the \"this is too wacky!\" comments come from people who watched Bebop the once and enjoyed it, but only remember the five episodes of the Spike vs Vicious plot. Most of the show can be summed up as \"chill martial artist, con artist with impulse control problems, schizophrenic genius child, and the team dad hunt wacky criminals in zany ways to avoid starvation.\" There were Film Noir parts, but that's not the whole thing.", "I firmly believe production studios need to stop hiring super recognizable actors for new, recognizable roles. We already have so many characters associated with John Cho, it dampens Spike’s character, as we see less of him and more of Cho in our minds. We need a clean slate actor who can take the role and pour everything into it, that way the audience doesn’t get caught saying “look it’s that guy from Star Trek!” Anyone up and coming that gets the chance to play Spike would always be remembered as him, and that’s a good ghost to carry around. Give some new people a chance", "Oh I have a bad feeling about this", "The pole fight with Shaft around 1:10 looked alright. What few seconds I saw looked like an enjoyable choreography with a nice composition. Only concern are how many cuts will be in it.", "On the contrary... I loved Faye's character in the original series. She was less about \"kicking ass\" and more shrewd, sly, cunning... That's not to say that an ass kicking woman has no place in media; it's been done well, but it's a bit off-the-mark for this character.\n\nIt's like if you made a Sherlock Holmes film where, instead of using his intellect and deductive skills to solve the case, he just went around beating people up until he got the answers. Could work as a film in general, but not a Sherlock Holmes film--unless it was a parody film or something", "Why do I get Speed Racer vibes from this (and not in a good way)? LOVE the anime but this just is not sitting well with me.", "It's your hate goggles. Looks pretty good for someone that has watched the original series about 10 times.\n\nIt's not the same thing. That anime still exists. Let it go people.", "Exactly. Why do people want the same thing they already have? I don't get it.", "Why does it matter if she's covered up or not?", "I think he's arguing that characters are important ingredients like chicken in chicken soup and if you remove the chicken and replace it with beef then it's beef soup not chicken soup.\n\nYes you can still enjoy beef soup. It's still food, but when you order chicken soup and get beef soup you're going to get upset.", "This is more promising. Much better than the teaser from before.", "I just think there’s two kinds of people: those with an imagination, and those without. \n\nMy mother is one of the latter she literally doesn’t understand how anyone can enjoy things that “aren’t real”.", "I'm not one to go to bat for live adaptation there isn't a good track record but \"It's different from the original\" isn't a complete criticism, at best it's the start of one. Countless reboots differ greatly from their beloved predecessors yet people still love good reboots and some damn near flip the table on their source material. \n\nI don't want a live action shot for shot recreation of my favorite anime I want the change in the medium be utilized to it's best ability.", "This sums it up perfectly. I think this will be a fun series, even if it deviates a bit.", "NGL initially I thought it was one of those YouTube faux trailers until the Netflix logo crept up. There are elements that look decent, but like everyone else I'm struggling with Spike and Faye. It's totally possible to deliver cheesy lines in a cool way (Wesley Snipes in Blade), but just based on the trailer I don't feel like these actors can do that. \n\nI'm sure newcomers will think it's cool and fresh. shrugs", "Look at it from a business standpoint - the only people who are going to look at Cho and think “man he doesn’t work as spike” are people who already know what cowboy bebop is. That audience is already captured to some extent - sure you might have some people who choose not to watch cause of Cho, but it’s probably not going to be the majority. \n\nCho is for the people who have no idea what cowboy bebop is - “oh look, it’s got John Cho in it. Maybe I’ll check it out” as opposed to “cowboy bebop? Starring who? Meh, I’ll just watch the office again”", "[pick another one?](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=asian+actors) this is why white washing is bad, but the reverse isn't.\n\nalso this is not exactly an infinite budget production.", "Ein is stealing every scene he's in 10/10", "> Hell, it's a little cringe now\n\nAs if it isn't cringe already with this actress. lol", "You're right, it is great the way it is. Good thing they are literally not changing the anime at all. \n\nYou're the reason the internet is the cesspool that it is. Not sure how you're even commenting on my taste considering the only thing you know about me is that I like Cowboy Bebop, which you also like. Go take a nap.", "As someone who just passingly watched a few episodes of the anime, I think this looks pretty cool and worth checking out.", "Yeah but how many people who haven't seen the anime are going to watch this movie just because of John Cho? I never got the impression that he's very popular or talked about these days.", "Lots of 50 year olds doing cool action in movies and TV that’s not the issue here", "I haven't seen Cowboy Bebop but I know the main character always has a cheeky grin or is one cut away from one. They probably shouldn't have cast a guy who can't do much more than a perma-scowl.", "> Faye is Faye. Why should she change to placate today’s fickle sensibilities.\n\nDude, if you want to masturbate to the cartoon fanservice you can go back and watch the original animated show. Just say so.", "Consoomers. That's all really.", "I mean, Tokyo Revengers live action movie was made in Japan. They don't care about the modern agenda, so they're free to follow and be loyal to the original story. Japan takes it very seriously, while America prefers to do controversial takes against the original series.", "I’m not sold on the action/movement. It looks so clunky. Over exaggerating some of the humor feels pretty corny too and not as cheeky in delivery with the characters.\n\nAlso why is no one acknowledging the lighting looks absolutely TERRIBLE. It almost seems like there was an effort to not have any contrast and it just went with pretty bad VFX locations and mismatched lighting.\n\nI’m not 100% on this and it’s just frustrating to see some technical shit that looks so goofy and awkward.", "i think cho is the best pick but maybe like 20 years ago", "I heard John Chon also suffered a knee injury while training", "The second episode was just them chasing a dog. There was another where people turned into monkeys. And the cowgirl ads...\n\nI'm as reserved as the next person on this show, but people got some rose-colored glasses about the tone of the original. It was all over the place (in a good way).", "A more accurate assessment would be adding fried chicken to chicken soup instead of chicken pieces.\n\nIt might not taste the same, or even be enjoyable, but it's still technically chicken soup even if it sounds repulsive.\n\n\nAnd I think we can all agree that every one of us fans are hoping for a pleasant suprise, even if some of the ingredients seem way out of the ordinary.\n\nIt might not be the same recipe, but it could still be good.", "They're doing Gundam?", "Not nearly enough smoking", "The Live Action adaptions are never for the weebs they are for the mainstream audience its why they change them so much.", "THAT's what it was! Thank you for giving me the words. Yes! This Faye is not bitchy enough. Like the endearing kind of bitchy.", "Thats not her ship. That's Spikes ship the [Swordfish II](https://cowboybebop.fandom.com/wiki/Swordfish_II) her ship is the [Red Tail](https://cowboybebop.fandom.com/wiki/Red_Tail) which isnt shown in the trailer at all.", "The only reason to make an adaptation is to draw in the existing audience. Otherwise, they'd do just as well making an entirely new IP. The strife comes from the obvious bait-and-switch.", "This looks better than the teaser. Glad to see the mood of the teaser wasnt representative of the actual thing. \n\nAlso, I was low key hoping to see Ashly Burch cast as Edward. Maybe slightly too old, but she could probably be aged down a bit with makeup. Lots of nearly 30 year old women play high schoolers all the time.", "Or we can retroactively change history so it doesn’t offend anybody today.", "Trailer looks interesting. Although I do not remember Spike ever pulling a gun on Faye. That didn’t happen in the show did it?", "You can change a lot things in a remake, but you generally doesn't change the personality of the characters. That's just strange.", "The shot still look like shit.", "Idk, maybe watching a heavily edited trailer doesnt give the nuance that is Spike and Faye. Jet looks spot on though. \n\nLots of people in here saying Faye doesn't hit the mark, but she's constantly quipping with Spike, gambling, and trying to get a larger cut. 2 of those were shown. There obvious reasons why her normal outfit is more conservative but we see her in a dinner dress and likely, gasp, being that conwoman seductress. \n\nI even rewatched it just to see Spikes scenes cause again a lot of hate coming Cho's way. In all but like 2 shots he's either mid fight or in a stare down. I can't recall if Spike ever pointed a gun at Faye, but thier interactions outside plot points was very very brother and sister hatred, with Spike either ignoring or yelling no in-between. The stiffness is the only real obvious turn off to Cho's Spike, but hey he didn't get alot shots that weren't fighting or stare downs. \n\nI think they captured the character decently enough in the little bit they have shown them. Spike being the worst but still not bad.", "Faye's original characterization was not cringe at all, give me a break. She was one of the best parts of the show.", "because Faye's original design is Haram >:(", "Laid-back for sure but \"happy go lucky\"? Wtf?", "That's how she is in the show too.", "I agree on everything except for physical stature. Jet is supposed to be built like an absolute ox.\n\nThis guy has some muscle to him, but he's nowhere near as muscular as Jet.\n\n[This image](https://static2.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/jet-black-mustafa-shakir-cowboy-bebop.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=740&h=370&dpr=1.5) gives a good comparison.", "Yes the anime still exists, amazing insight. This looks bad.", "Man I had to sort by controversial just to find comments that were downvoted for being positive. This legit looks very good. Of course there's gonna be changes but I think they did a good enough job to capture the original. Time will tell though. \n\nFirst live action anime show that I actually think k looks good from the trailers.", "You mean you're not excited for the Studio Ghibli live-action Netflix extended universe??", "Her outfit certainly is, I should have specified. She is a great character, but the outfit is too much (not enough?)", "It looks like you're the one offended they dared to change your cartoon.", "Bummed we're not getting Edward in this. She was my favorite part of the show. I cried when she left.", "Spike and Faye are just not working for me at all. Spike looks 30 years too old and Faye just.. isn't Faye honestly.", "Keanu Reeves should have been Spike and you know it", "Right. In terms of looks they’d need to get a pornstar to match Faye irl, so I’m not really bothered by that. It’s the change of personality from cold femme fatale to manic pixie girl that bothers me.", "Nah the character design is great, on par with the design of the other characters. I do love how puritanical redditors have become of certain issues though.", "That's your opinion man. Amazing insight.", "No shit it's my opinion.\n\nBtw hey bro did you know the anime still exists? Idk if you remember.", "It's worth pointing out. People are mad about content they could literally ignore. Also you can't tell fuck all from trailers. \n\nAmazing insight from you dude. Just amazing.", "It's literally not worth pointing out lmao\n\nDo you think there are people who believe this live-action series is deleting the original?\n\nTrailers exist to preview what a show/movie will be like. The trailers reveal that this show is likely going to be terrible.", "Is that having a badass female lead is too political now.", "I noticed that too, that is single handedly the biggest reason why I'm watching this new show.", "We barely saw him so its hard to tell now. Of course he will be somewhat different from the anime, I was never expecting that. But the vibe for Jet seem to be there compared to the other characters.", "This is going to be Epic. Well, the anime was. But i have big hopes on this one.", "Lol, I cant believed he said that, well it is what it is", "I'd say they were trying TOO hard with that teaser, but at least I liked the energy behind it AND the musical choice and how it was used.", "so you go with what you can get. bebop is a cult favorite, but the business side of showbuisness needs to attract more eyeballs", "Literally none of those strike me as \"whimsical\".", "They spent an entire episode floating around tripping on space mold.\n\n\nI have my fair share of complaints about this whole project, and doubt I'll even bother trying to watch it for a myriad of other reasons, but I still have to agree though. Much like the original Spike himself, the show didn't take itself too seriously most of the time.", "Welcome to post-2010 LA screenwriting bro", "Changes are to be expected but changing the characters? That's pretty weird.", "lol puritanical. It's not a little cleavage. Her outfit is essentially body paint.", "Nobody wants the exact same thing. But people do expect there to be similarities in things like tone and characterisation. Else why is this even Cowboy Bebop in the first place and not just an original Sci-Fi property? I don't get it.", "i would prefer if anime was literally never \"\"\"adapted\"\"\" into live action.", "Yeah you're being puritanical. Who cares if she wears short-shorts and a halter top, it suits her character perfectly and is a good design. \n\nI assume you're just as Amish about He-Man and the entire Sailor Moon cast of characters?", "He is a tall athletic and lean white guy in the Anime, in this he is an old Asian dude.\n\nIm sure the character will be the same but it feels a little like the emperor has no clothing somethines.", "I don't think they are too far off. You can't even tell based on a 2 minute trailer. Anyone that claims that is wrong.", "It reads like a fucking reddit comment lol. The state of hollywood's originality these days", "“Whatever happens, happens.”", "I don't know the cartoon. Is there a reason why the ship interior and flight scenes in space indicate it's futuristic but when they have indoor and outdoor locations it just looks like today's Earth?", "Yeah, this is my issue. It's been a long time since I've watched some Cowboy Bebop, but I don't remember it feeling so silly? The first trailer or whatever it was I watched for this Netflix version felt like zinger after zinger after zinger trying to be silly. I'm kind of getting that vibe from this trailer as well. I was curious if I just forgot how much silliness there was or if they've made it sillier. Either way, it doesn't sit well with me.", "Nothing wrong with John but hell, where there really no long legged dudes with a bit of gravel in their voice to be found?", "People love Reddit comments! We'll be rich! - the studio", "You're likely right about the editing there, but I think my point stands. I can't really think of a scenario where saying that would be appropriate for the character.", "yeah but he's definitely too old now. I kinda wish they went with Henry Golding, I get that John Cho kinda looks like spike with his hair and outfit. But since they aren't striving with accuracy for Jet and Faye. I think Henry Golding has that charisma and the capacity to be mysterious. I really dislike Faye and her type of characters we see in movies today (Fast and Furious, Free Guy)", "I've never seen Cowboy Bebop but this looks like a unique fun show that I'll check out. In fact, I'm about to turn episode one of the anime on just because this trailer piqued my interest.", "Corporations only want to make money, so they always appeal to the majority, why would they appeal to a minority?", ">I don't think they are too far off. \n> \n>You can't even tell based on a 2 minute trailer.\n\nIf you can't tell based on a 2 minute trailer then how can you seriously say \"I don't think they are too far off\"? You've just called yourself wrong lmao.", "No reason in particular. There were several different locations in the anime, and yes, a lot of them looked like modern earth, some looked even older/less \"developed\".", "Why make an adaptation of something and then change it? When has that ever resulted in success?\n\nLord of the Rings and Harry Potter changed as little as possible to translate their respective stories to the big screen and were insanely successful.\n\nLet's think back on some bombs that for some reason also share the common trait of changing the original for reasons. We got: Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, Dragonball Evolution, The Dark Tower, The Hobbit, Artemis Fowl, A Series of unfortunate events, Enders Game, Eragon the list just goes on and on. \n\nIn conclusion, I believe for every The Shining you get at least two dozen Masters of the Universe and this one does not look like it will break the trend.", "I grew up reading (and never stopped) comics, so am used to many interpretations of the same story. All the characters had at least 2 origin stories or alternate versions. Different characters brought different personalities to the mantles of Batman, Spiderman, Green Lantern, etc.\n\nIf I am already using my imagination, what's a little bit more? When I notice those little inconsistencies, I either like to imagine some in-world explanation for how it could be, or just imagine that which I wanted it to be. \n\nThe brain is easy to fool if you just turn it off a little.\n\nEdit: My point being that I will absolutely enjoy this live action adaptation. The only one I don't is The Dark Tower. 7 books...in 2 hours. No.", "Hard Pass for me.", "> Why make an adaptation of something and then change it?\n\nBecause the super creative genius in charge has to make it \"their take\", or else how will people know what a super creative genius they are?", "Initial D was one of the most painful live action remakes I had to experience.", "If you eyedrop his skin color from a relatively neutrally lit scene like [this one from the movie](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utLWiscq8d4), you end up with [this color](https://www.color-hex.com/color/554a48). Not exactly blinding, is it. \n \nSpike's skin color is well within the range of a Japanese dude unless you think Asians look like Simpsons characters or something.", "Because the people supporting this woke trash are a loud minority. The majority of people are actually starting to get sick of the trend. Look at the reviews for most of these woke movies, they are NOT positive.", "If it was a loud minority then woke trash wouldn't make money and they would stop doing them, seems to me that you can't accept the fact that society is changing, like it always does.", "This would have been a good role for him 20 years ago back in the harold and kumar days but he is too old now. Spike is supposed to be young energetic one compared to Jet being the grizzled old man. Instead they both just look like grizzled old men", "I agree.\n\nI thought the teaser trailer from last week was bad, and I don't believe the show will be good.\n\nBut I think the characterization we've seen so far is reasonably accurate, specially within the constraints of a 3 minute trailer.\n\nMaybe there's other footage I'm missing.\n\nBy the way, I thought it was a good trailer.", "They do: https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/12/22380140/netflix-live-action-gundam-movie-jordan-vogt-roberts-legendary-sunrise \n \nHopefully it's not an adaptation of existing anime, but a whole new story. So unlike Cowboy Bebop it's got nothing else to compare to.", "no, its not cringe, jesus christ, people are allowed to make attractive women characters", "and?", "Spike being in his mid 20s would litterally be too young for his backstory", "a friend asked if we could pay them to not make it.", "man where is edd ??", "Sounds an awful lot like you're speaking from your own perspective and not considering that maybe people outside your direct sphere of experience exist.", ">what the actual fuck\n\nPeople that say that in the real life should be set on fire", "There's a difference between a vague statement like mine, and many definitive statements on this thread.", "It's the same with any beloved franchise, long fetishized past its original monetary intent. \n\nIt's like Bebop was created for the good of humanity, donated by God himself to soothe our weary and quirky-cartoon-starved souls. \n\nThe way people act now you'd think Michelangelo wasn't making fucking bank every time he put chisel to marble.\n\nMoney drives art, especially popular long remembered art. It shouldn't be a shock to see it happen time and time again.", "I'm getting more Amos Burton than Spike Spiegel from John Cho...", "yea, watching the trailer, it looks pretty decent.", "> I'm not a fan of the Swordfish straight hovering\n> \n> \n\nIt made some sense until it was hovering with the engine going to forward flight and still hovering.\n\nThe Swordfish is suppose to fly like a Harrier Jump Jet or more like a recent F-35 VTOL.\n\nThere's suppose to be about four modes in flight for it, VTOL in atmosphere, Plane in atmosphere, Spacecraft, and Microgravity RCS.\n\nThe anime makes the \"controls\" of the Swordfish somewhat realistic and styling that' it's a formal race vehicle with weapons systems rigged onto it.\n\nI'm hoping it's not shit because I really like the anime.", "They need to smoke", "It won't be better than the original, but atleast it will get new people to look into the original series/movie/soundtrack.", "Because what works in one medium doesn’t work in another. Anime is, by definition, stylized in a certain manner that is difficult to pull off in live action, so certain changes are warranted to preserve suspension of disbelief.", "names define your race is what your comment suggests for a futuristic anime set hundreds of years ahead where the main cast consists of half the cast being born on different planets. \n\n\nskip the history lesson on why so many black ppl have irish names have we?", "They're really playing up the wacky and silly with Fey. She was never a wacky or silly character. Spike wasn't witty, he was cool. Fey wasn't silly, she was smart, sexy, and cold as ice. They should have gone with a more grounded take imo.", "Faye used everything in her arsenal as a tool and a weapon and that included her sexuality. She was a bounty hunter who often went undercover. If someone sees that and is offended for her \"honor\", \"femininity\", or think its degrading to women, they can take a hike. The characters in Cowboy Bebop were shown to be flawed humans with a past (or lackthereof with Faye). The show was as much of exploring them as it was about the story at large.", "No they don't give a f about the source material, they didn't consultant anyone from the main production, Shinichiro wantanabe being so accessable wasn't even asked a single comment or advice, he said so on the record", "At the same time the fem-fatale who uses sexuality as a weapon is such an overused trope to the point of it being tiresome.", "Oh boy, I bet this is as good as Dragonball Evolution!", "Jet's a jaded ex-cop \n\nEd's an eccentric hacker\n\nSpike's based on the Bruce Lee martial artist Arche-type.\n\nThey are all tropes. But they were all done WELL.\n\nRefusing to accept the characters for what they are because you feel their trope is \"played out\" is just a rejection of the source material.", "it might just be trailer editing, it seems a bit slowed down in some places", "If I wanted to watch the cartoon again I would just watch the cartoon again. This is an opportunity to try something slightly different with the source material.", "Yet they are still hitting 3/4 of the tropes for you. It's basically Jet with Spike from the mushroom episode and some random lady they call Faye.", "Gamer upset sexy women is slightly tuned down in live action remake", "Jackass on internet makes strawman to ignore debate.", "Some tropes are less tiring and exploitive than others. It's almost as if every women in cinema has to be a sexy femme fatale who uses their sexuality as a weapon so it's okay that we over sexualized her. It's just a lazy excuse.", "Fayes entire story revolved around her not knowing her past and becoming street smart and savvy. That's cool that you want to impart your own morals, standards, and ethics for a character - but she operated on a realist level. She was not an SJW or a caricature of equality. She lied, manipulated, and stole what she needed to get her way. If she thought she could seduce you, she would use that as a tool of her trade and character. She went from an innocent girl, to one of the best street smart bounty hunters. \n\nMight as well make Spike a overweight ex-boxer and Jet is actually an IT professional while Ed is secretly 3 Ein's in a trenchcoat.", "Steven Yeun looks like he’s 20, his actual age doesn’t really matter", "Live action remakes really have to lean into self-aware comedy or they just fall flat, imo.", "Then you aren't looking for remakes or adaptations, you're looking for parodies.", "... No? I'm not talking about making fun OF the material, I'm talking about having fun while writing and creating the material.\n\nTake it too seriously and you get the Disney remakes... Animation has a much more expressive style that it can get away with in a way that live action just can't. \n\nI think the Detective Pikachu movie was kind of close to what I mean. Ryan Reynolds was involved in that, though, so his humor probably helped.\n\nSo you kind of have to have a self-aware angle and maybe a little cheesiness to soften the reality of live action.", "You hit the nail on the head my friend. Where is his sexy indifference!", "No, that's how you make terrible Jim Carrey nonsense.", "> There obvious reasons why her normal outfit is more conservative but we see her in a dinner dress and likely, gasp, being that conwoman seductress. \n\nThaaaaank you.\n\nI'm so tired of the idea of a femme fatale only being okay if they make your PP (or TT's for you lady lady lovers out there) hard.\n\nFemme fatales use their wiles when THEY want to, for THEIR OWN gain. This is right in line with Faye's characterization.", "Shrugs.\n\nTo each their own.", "Thanks man. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Faye tried once to femme fatale Spike and after that they were at each other throats the entire series almost losing bounties b/c of their rivalry. \n\nI feel like this entire thread are people that only remembered the episodes where Spike or Faye had their backstories explored. Cause like humans, they have a very wide array of emotions and attitude. Meanwhile everyone in this thread is shoehorning them into specific roles. Everything Faye does in this trailer, is something she did in the anime.", "You know what I’m saying but keep up the act, they’re gonna go hard on changing the character that already exists.", "This live action adaptation has no reason to exist.", "He's 27.\n\nhttps://cowboybebop.fandom.com/wiki/Spike_Spiegel#Biography", "I feel like ever since The Avengers too many movies try to go for that cheeky style of humor and I'm so sick of it.", "no way buster, it's 2021. women aren't allowed to have cleavage or act in a sexual manner unless it's strictly for female empowerment.", "I think it would be difficult to argue that \"fan service femme fatale\" Faye would work out any worse than what appears to be \"fan service Marvel clapback\" Faye..", "It really does not appear to work, even in the most favourable cut possible. \n\nCowboy Bebop gets the Marvel TV series treatment right down to the intermittent style and lacklustre fight choreography.", "It can still be an embarrassing cash grab if they cheaped out on the production, writing, and casting, which they appear to have done", "The casting is off that's why. They really haven't found the right actors to play.", "Geez, calm down xx", "lmao, you're mad enough to creep on my comments huh? stay mad boomer.", "What does \"there is no such that as an America name\"? Your English isn't very good xx", "People need subtitles to understand what you guys, the so called inventors of English, even say. Shush now, smelly Brit.", "OK, but what you wrote didn't make sense so I just asked politely what you meant xx\n\nDon't get angry", "Just a thought but you'd not be able to smell me if you wore your mask properly - you're not covering your nose xx", "Why is your ceiling so dirty?!", ">happy go lucky,\n\nAlso Spike:\n\n>“The music box is broken, or is it? It starts to play, and a haunting tune fills the air. I wake suddenly from my dream. There is no music box! And yet there it is. A tiny one nestled in my hand. And I awaken from my dream again. As if I were peeling an onion. It’s a dream no matter how far I go. I can never reach reality. Trapped in an endless nightmare.” -Spike Spiegel\n\nHe was a tormented man underneath it all.", "Oh please, how mant times have adaptations done something different and got shit for it. If your going to make an adaptation you gotta be true to the characters. Fayes seciness is a part of her character and taking that away is just stripping away aspects of who thw character is.", "Dude you are too much lol. If this was something like queens blade (females in body armor that revealed more skin than a g string) then i would understand your point but faye is so tame compared to most anime fanservice characters that i cant take you seriously.", "Vocal minority tends to skew perceptions dude.", "Hes responding to someone claiming that fayes sexuality is too much and your saying hes mad instead of the idiot offended by short shorts??? Gtfo of here man.", ">I believe the latter was what made people like Spike as a character and it's what we remember most since the majority of the episodes are like this.\n\nI would agree, but I would say more accurately it was the melding of the two. I would argue a big part of what made his character so enduring was seeing this care-free, laid back guy turn into such a cool and calculated person when facing the past he was trying to run away from.\n\nSo I do agree if the trailer is just heavy on his backstory stuff and it won't be so much of a focus in the show itself, they still have a chance to get his tone down. The trailers don't make me super confident in that, but it looks like it is going to be a good production either way and I am excited to see how well they do it.", "John is way too old play spike, they should hired a younger actor.", "Spike did actually more than threaten to shoot faye, he actually did shoot towards faye when she attempted to run off with that con man from her past that Jet had brought in", "that's literally too young for his back story, basically Spike kind of has John Wick's back story, and John Wick is not in his 20s. I know officially he is 27, I'm saying that his official age is too young for his back story", "I mean is a futuristic universe with enchance science. I'd say is totally possible, but it's really subjective, no point in arguing.", "I'm just saying there isn't enough time for the back story if he's 27", "I'm just saying anything is possible in the shows universe. It would be crazy if, for example, Ed would be played by a 25 year old because there's not enough time a 13 year old to become a hacker genius. In the show's universe a 13 hacker genius is within the realm of possibility." ]	695	videos	Cowboy Bebop Official Trailer
https://youtu.be/SxgS7_OHi4U	/r/videos/comments/qgjm6n/christian_lady_gets_a_standing_ovation_after/	[ "This is stressful", "Mental illness takes on many forms", "This genius has found a way to turn hers into $$$.", "That activity probably wont make it better either" ]	4	videos	Christian lady gets a standing ovation after giving herself a concussion for the heavy metal guitar riffs
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qgjtex/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qgjtex/deleted_by_user/	[ "Loved the Animation; can’t wait to be disappointed by this", "This ain't it, chief", "November 19th? Think i'll pass and play Battlefield" ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qgjwfd/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qgjwfd/deleted_by_user/	[ "Animale", "I saw the Original and dune 2021 gotta say the original is closer to the book but the 2021 feels more dystopian I need to watch the children of dune series for me to understand more", "Perhaps you should try the books....", "Yup trying to find a free version currently" ]	4	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/Hxm5pJsgKVo	/r/videos/comments/qgkieu/busker_gets_to_perform_with_the_actual_christine/	[ "I thought this was pretty cool. Love her encouragement for him to sing! \n\nIt is Stephen Barry and Celinde Schoenmaker. \n\nFound his video on his page. It is just a tad shorter. \n\nhttps://youtu.be/4uugKV0Kk9k", "Magnificent.", "That was beautiful. Love videos like this. Made my otherwise gloomy rainy day a bit brighter.", "So great. Andy wrote some jams.", "So many jams lol.", "I like videos like this as well. Completely spur of the moment and genuine.", "Man, this is good stuff.", "I agree, it is a really cool moment!", "Loved how he had to throw down the scarf to step up his game!\n\nThis is wholesome material right here!", "I like how he messes up in the beginning. Almost confirms his description of the video that he didn't believe she could actually sing. Carried on like a champ though!", "My mom would always listen to the Michael Crawford Sarah Brightman Phantom soundtrack when I was a kid. I still love those songs.", "Im older and never listened to them much growing up but knew of them. Wasn't the right time or place for that music to click with me, but I always enjoyed it when I heard it. My son loves music and opera and when these songs started popping up he loved them on YouTube. We sing them a lot now!", "R/randomactsofmusic", "I’ll say I love her 😍", "If you liked that then you'll love this.\n\nRandom guy from the audience stuns Jasmine from Alladin in an awesome duet.\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGWC7icTM\\_E&ab\\_channel=JaredYoung](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGWC7icTM_E&ab_channel=JaredYoung)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nIs there a subreddit dedicated to stuff like this, cause if there is I'm down!!!", "https://www.reddit.com/r/randomactsofmusic/", "Music might be the best thing about humanity.", "So when he messes up in the beginning and she tries to remind/help him, that is an actual human moment. You can't really fake that, that well. His surprise is real. Watch his engagement before and after she starts singing. Almost two different people, if you ask me. I'm sure the leading lady of a major musical doesn't just hang out walking the streets to sing with random buskers for likes. \n\nI'm as skeptical as they come, especially nowadays where everything seems scripted. But I believe this is a real moment, if not then I'll delete this post.", "Yep I agree. That is why I was glad to find this.", "[The priests would like a word with you](https://youtu.be/AZm1_jtY1SQ?t=670)\n\nsource: [RUSH 2112](https://youtu.be/AZm1_jtY1SQ) without abrupt raging \"priests\" timestamp.", "I actually can't believe people were just walking by and ignoring this amazing performance. What a lucky fellow.", "Same. I know people got things to do but this would be pretty cool to hear out in public.", "Would highly suggest the 25th Anniversary The Phantom of the Opera at the Royal Albert Hall; Ramin Karmiloo and Sierra Boggess redefined those roles for me.", "A personal favorite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cw1uLVSl1Y", "I love this video even though one of my favorite albums is rust in peace", "I mean, most times I'm out walking city streets I have somewhere to be at a certain time. I don't plan time to stop into my journey", "To have a voice like that. What a gift! I would sing everyday.", "Yeah that's where I started with it mostly. Our son loves it", "Any 2112 ref gets my upvote", "That was stunning. I really enjoy videos like this. Made my otherwise gloomy rainy day a bit brighter.", "That was 11 years ago....what happened to Sam?!\n\n\nI looked it up: Sam Hollyman\n\nWent on The Voice, did not win. Has his own YouTube channel", "Jesus Christ shredding Opera wasn't enough for this guy, he had to go and [start shredding pussy too.](https://www.instagram.com/p/CNvjkGsn-mM/)", "Lol", "Plot twist: Michael Bublé was on the judging panel that year.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBxt1mjAGcA another one!", "She kept taking the microphone too early.", "The parts are very closely linked and flow into one another. I guess when sharing a microphone it can happen?", "She also exposed the fact that he is using lipsync and soundboost.", "What is lipsync and sound boost? Is that like autotune?", "Awesome" ]	41	videos	Busker gets to perform with the actual Christine from Phantom of the Opera.
https://youtu.be/ULCIHP5dc44	/r/videos/comments/qglaqa/cowboy_bebop_netflix_trailer/	[ "I hope this doesn't sucj", "It will, but that's okay", "Like many fans I’m cautiously optimistic. Ngl, it made me excited.\n\nEdit: that just like my opinion dude.", "My god they’re running out of ideas…", "Hair is done pretty well", "This ain't it, chief", "Irrespective of the trailer, John Cho has had the most illustrious career of all the American Pie alums, despite only having a single line in the original movie. The only other actors from the movie who still have solid careers are Eugene Levy and the original MILF.", "This looks...utterly generic.\n\nLike if he wasn't wearing the outfit, and they weren't playing the familiar music, I'd have no idea this had anything to do with Cowboy Bebop. Everything about this reeks of modern copy-cat humor and cash-in writing.\n\nIt's a real shame too because what made CB so special wasn't its premise or plot lines but the vibe of the show. It was kind of nihilistic, introspective space noir juxtaposing camp and cool...and pulling it off. The episodes were not even about the plot lines so much as the plot lines were about setting up the stage for three characters running away from who they were and going nowhere together.\n\nThis just feels like...more Guardians of the Galaxy. It feels like someone who doesn't get Cowboy Bebop, and doesn't really care that they don't.", "godamn amazing cant fucking waaaaaaaaaaaaait!!!!", "Eh...\n\nI wonder if they're going to have someone cast as Edward.", "I liked this a lot more than anything I’ve seen up until now, but its hard to judge how much of that is just that music being so fucking cool", "IMDB says no Edward.\n\nhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt1267295/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0", "I think it may be too tough.", "Well, I haven't seen anyone deliberately aim for 60s Batman in a while so, it's got that going for it I guess.", "Formulaic Californian garbage written by smug hipsters who spend too much time on social media", "Personally i cant get behind live action reboots of anime. I feel they butcher them more often than not. I love death note, but the live action aint doing it for me. Full metal alchemist is one of the all time greats, but the live action was god awful in my opinion. But i'll give this a watch, just to try be proven wrong", "Yeah I have yet to see it even hear of a good live action. We shall see." ]	17	videos	Cowboy Bebop Netflix Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iErrFDS-YtI	/r/videos/comments/qgmcoq/bill_burr_explaining_the_dave_chappelle_situation/	[ "How is national treasure bill burr still alive?", "Dave's PR team working overtime with all these videos.", " Bill Burr is hilarious but a lot of his schlick is 'look how offensive I am' while never actually being that offensive. \n\nHe's the cards of humanity of comedy.\n\nBtw, all the Chappelle related submissions are being removed on this subreddit due to the no politics rule", "Except instead of one night it's his third special on the biggest streaming service in the world and he literally says it's about trans people.", "No need. As much as Reddit claims to despise celebrity worship, this site is always ready to slobber on the nuts of specific celebrities they deem better or different. Likewise, people like to get outraged, and outrage is better than to ignore for celebrities. I don't think about Dave Chappelle 99.99% of the time, but I've commented on several posts related to him in the last few days because several subs I frequent don't shut up about the situation. I think 100 years from now, people will have a field day analyzing what social media is doing to us.", "can you tell me what the joke is in \"i'm team TERF\"? that's not a joke and there was no context that made it a joke, it's a (careless?) political statement that deserves condemnation.", "yeah, he wasn't doing that. he very clearly supported JKRowling.", "Replay the video above, and focus at 1:45", "\"You cant say anything anymore!\"\n\ngets a netflix special\n\n\"You cant say anything anymore!\"\n\ngets another netflix special\n\n\"You cant say anything anymore!\"\n\ngets another another netflix special\n\nI wonder how long this grift is going to continue to work on morons?", "Obviously he’s right about the lazy journalism and manufactured PR. It’s coming from Chapelle a lot of the time but that’s incidental.\n\nThere’s a few differences in the case of Chapelle, namely that he is ill informed and actually just making statements ‘I’m team TERF’ etc. Then hiding behind ‘I’m a funny person it’s comedy, if you’re upset it’s because you’re stupid’.\n\nI would put Chapelle in the same team as comedians who tell racist jokes that no one likes anymore. They genuinely believed the racist things they said and it emboldened other racists. I’m glad we moved on from that kind of thing. I’m glad sometimes jokes are just taken as bullying and the same thing to him as Jim Davidson, boo hoo, get better material.", "Can you actually name anything horribly offensive he's said? Because it seems to me like this is just the 2021 version of blasphemy. Certain ubiquitous personality types just seem to need things to get morally outraged about. Last century it was the judgy church ladies, this century it's white hipsters on twitter. Same types of people, it's just the blasphemy that's different.", "If you read all that and think it’s the same as blaspheming then I do worry about you. You also seem have bought in to the lie that it’s white people vs. It’s called poisoning the well, saying ‘white people support trans people, therefore it’s wrong’.\n\nFrankly, I’m from a minority myself (roma), and every time someone who’s white stands up for us being mistreated I’m very grateful. I’m grateful for anyone of any colour standing against very real hate. \n\nAnd yes he said TERFs hate trans people, and he was team TERF.", "It's refreshing to see someone admit ignorance.\n\n\nTo dissect any comedy special inherently makes it less funny.\n\nSo with that said the \"team TERF\" is roughly a 3.5 minute bit with roughly 5 jokes in it, him saying \"im team terf\" isn't the joke it's the setup.\n\n\nIf you are offended by the jokes, then it makes it not funny for you.\n\n\nComedy aside of storytelling is often packaging shocking truths in a crescendo, but nowadays the shocking truths are very obvious things we all know but are not allowed to say aloud unless you want to deal with a irrational rabid mob, to hurt people's (far too sensitive) feelings or to create awkward situations, or a combination of it all.\n\n\nAnd that's why some people attack Dave Chappelle and decide to justify their hatred towards him by saying \"he's not funny and his specials aren't either\" because they can hide behind subjectivity and they cant say that he's lying.\n\n\n\nNow social commentary in comedy has been a thing for years, the late great George Carlin was remarkable that way.\n\n\nAnd it's very clear that social commentary hasn't been a issue before, there's a comedy special that has objectively the most boring storytelling ever, with a complete and total lack of comedy yet wrapped in a important social commentary subject that because of it, was simply granted a label of the funniest comedy special aka Nanette.\n\n\nYet some people want to gatekeep and censor social commentary, which is a dangerous path that leads to complete censorship.\nThe crazy part is that they believe it's okay since they think they're in control, the reality is they're nothing but a tool that will be discarded when their own goal is achieved as it will be used against them.\n\n\nTL; DR: His whole special is essentially a light that shines on how the loudest minorities are in fact the most privileged.", "Doesn't need a pr team... most people recognize how ridiculous the criticism towards him is.", "Transphobia on a massive public platform deserves criticism.", "Some people think white supremacy is acceptable, too. It doesn't stop us decent people from calling it out when someone endorses it.", ">but nowadays the shocking truths are very obvious things we all know \n\nTruths? What truth is that? \n\n\n>TL; DR: His whole special is essentially a light that shines on how the loudest minorities are in fact the most privileged. \n\n\nSo, LGBT are now the most privileged? And doesn't this mean some of that privilege should then be removed? What privilege is that, the right to not be scared of who you are?", "Have you seen his special?", "Yes", "Where did he say this, can you give an actual quote, or is it something you read on twitter?\n\n&#x200B;\n\nI say it's blaspheming because it's an untouchable subject that instantly whips up a frenzy of outrage at the mere mention of disagreement. It's not hate to make rude jokes about people. It's not hate to disagree with the popular dogma. Trans activists who claim they speak for all trans people, have decided that their dogma is absolute truth and anyone who deviates from the committee line is a filthy blasphemer. Sorry but if you try to make your beliefs mainstream and subvert social norms then you're going to get public discussion, disagreement, and jokes at your expense, that's just the way it works. You can't throw a fit any time you're not treated with kid gloves.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nStuff that white people support isn't automatically wrong, that would be stupid and racist. But American whites often live in very sheltered safe environments in which they don't have any actual real world problems. This type of person looks for things to get outraged about so they can feel like they've got a struggle in life. They like to compare themselves to people with the wrong opinions and convince themselves they're on the side of good vs evil.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nThis personality type isn't exclusive to white people but they're the most noticeable in Western culture because they dominate the media and social media.", "And you thought THAT was anti-trans? After watching that I had more sympathy for the trans community than ever, horrible story of a great person taking her own life to show the struggle yet you somehow got anti trans out of that?", "You can have trans friends and still be transphobic.", "Wow, ok, I never said that, I said the routine wasn’t transphobic, it was very much trans sympathetic and pro trans. Did you manage to see through his act and into his soul where an anti-trans heart beat inside of this guy doing a set that built sympathy for trans people?", "Usually if one agrees with transphobic sentiment they are transphobic, by definition. He said he was Team TERF.", "Actions don’t matter, only affiliations. Got it.", "And you can make jokes involving trans people without being transphobic.", "What? If you agree with racist things, are you racist? Or just associated with racism?", "He didn’t just make jokes though, did he?", "> Truths? What truth is that?\n\nI'm sorry but i will not spend my time writing a paper on the subject as that's what would be required to avoid being taken out of context, I assumed it's obvious but apparently it's not, so then the next best thing for you is to be introspective and/or to watch the special(s). edit: correction: to listen what's being said in the special(s)\n\n> LGBT are now the most privileged?\n\nOf minorities, yes.\nNobody is asking for privileges to be taken away, just to be recognized in solidarity of others.", ">And you thought THAT was anti-trans?\n\nI thought it was. Mainly because he lied a lot in order to make anti trans statements. \n\nBut it doesn't really matter if I thought it was anti trans. What matters is that most trans people thought it was anti trans. I guess declaring that you are on team TERF kind of makes you anti trans in their eyes.", "> Nobody is asking for privileges to be taken away, just to be recognized in solidarity of others.\n\nUmm.. wut? Solidarity for.. who? The non-LGBT? \n\n\n>I'm sorry but i will not spend my time writing a paper on the subject as that's what would be required to avoid being taken out of context, I assumed it's obvious but apparently it's not, so then the next best thing for you is to be introspective and/or to watch the special(s). edit: correction: to listen what's being said in the special(s) \n\n\nSo, you are being vague for reasons you can't say. It is weird since there is not a SINGLE truth that is controversial to say. There are a lot of OPINIONS that may be that. Using an argument of \"watch the X\", when we know that there is about 30 seconds of stuff that is related, this is nothing but you avoiding to say something.. that i'm suppose to detect, to notice in the material when i haven't got a clue what i'm suppose to find.. \n\n\n\"Look there is a treasure out there, no one knows what it is like, so go and find it.. Oh, i know what it is and where it is located but i won't tell you\".... \n\n\nSo i can only assume that you are against transpeoples rights, don't think they are really who they say they are but mentally insane. We can play this game this way too, i will make you to be the worst option. Since you won't say it, i'm free to start speculating until we find out where you stand. if you are not ready to take a stand, then maybe shut up about your opinions about \"obvious truths\". If it is obvious, it won't be controversial.", "I think there might have been or two jokes in that special. None were funny but yea I think there might have been a couple of jokes for sure.", "How are trans people the most privileged minority?\n\nThat's an absurd statement to make.\n\nAlso the whole idea that \"I am black so I get to shit on trans people\" is kind of sickening.", ">Where did he say this, can you give an actual quote, or is it something you read on twitter?\n\nThe team TERF thing? It's in the special.\n\n>Stuff that white people support isn't automatically wrong, that would be stupid and racist. But American whites often live in very sheltered safe environments in which they don't have any actual real world problems. This type of person looks for things to get outraged about so they can feel like they've got a struggle in life. They like to compare themselves to people with the wrong opinions and convince themselves they're on the side of good vs evil.\n\nLOL. That was the funniest thing I read all week.\n\nThanks for the bit of comedy. Hope you get a special some day.", "yes\n\nNeed to break this up since this sub has a character limit otherwise automod removes this\n\npart 1\n\n------\n\nHe didn't make the distinction between mud slinging accounts on twitter (2nd most toxic social media) and the LGTBQ community in general. He goes out of his way to address the entire LGBTQ community explicitly in his gripes. He said that they act like minorities until they need to act white around Black people, based off one personal bad personal experience. He said 'Trans people make up words to win arguments'. He said the trans are out to get him and he needs to look for adams apples\n\n---\n\nHe used a huge platform to lie about the trans community. He said JK Rowling was cancelled for stating a biological fact. First, she wasn't cancelled. she's still with her publisher, still publishing books with cross-dressing characters who are murderers\n\nSecond, she didn't just state a fact, she has openly befriended and amplified the voices of TERFs on social media, and that she penned a long manifesto expressing the pernicious TERF ideology that trans women might actually be male sexual predators in disguise", "part 2\n\nHe complained that the LGBTQ community is preventing him to from going after white people, that he had them on the ropes before the LGBTQ community stopped him. But it's Dave who keeps on dedicating his specials to them. When his last special was released there were no articles being written about his beef with them, no social media trends. And then he dedicated nearly his whole special to them\n\nAnd if he wants to get conspiratorial about white people, race, and sexuality issues, look at what they did in India and the Philippines. They did a ton to demonize homosexuality in those areas. They always do. Like the Hindy/Muslim animosity and the Caste system in India (which existed before the British came, but they dialed that the knob up to 100% by codefying into law and making it a part of their educational system) and apartheid in South Africa, they are always pitting minority groups against each other so that they won't focus on their oppressor\n\nHow can this be more glaring than that the anti-gay people and anti-trans people are the same ones who are anti-BLM. The same people who keep passing laws specifically targeting Black people from voting", "part 3\n\nHe complained 'to what extent am I obligated to participate in your self image'. He has none, but to what extent are they obligated to indulge in the idea that he is beyond criticism? To what extent should they suppress the fact that he is no longer a positive influence in their life\n\nHe complained about trans people using made up words to win arguments, but the majority of the terms that were coined for identifying phenomena regarding the marginalization of minorities came from the racial equality movements. It's mostly the anti-BLM people who criticize people for using terms like microaggressions", "Bill burr has been playing the same schtick for more than five years.\n\nIt's his bread and butter. Same shit every day.", "part 4\n\nHe blamed the LGBTQ community for taking away Kevin Hart's childhood dream of hosting the Oscars\n\nFirst, his old jokes were hurtful. Don Lemon did a great job of explaining why. I'm not going to link the youtube videos because that tends to get my comment deleted by the automod but I'll just mention what to look up on youtube\n\nYoutube Don Lemmon Kevin Hart\n\nAnd Kevin Hart later acknowledged at much, saying that he has grown since\n\nYoutube Kevin Hart apology\n\nBut the issue is that he was adamant in not addressing it twice. But he never apologized the first time. No apologies in every interview he did about his hurtful comments prior to the Oscars; he defended himself and blamed the audience each time\n\nGoogle the vulture.com article titled \"Where Are Kevin Hart’s Past Apologies? An Investigation\"\n\nIf hosting the Oscars truly was his childhood dream and giving an apology (and instead lying about previously apologizing) was a boundary, then he has a \"Brittle-ass spirit\" (Dave's phrase for LouisCK victims)\n\nBtw by his own usage of the terminology, Dave tried to 'cancel' Don Lemon\n\nYoutube Don Lemmon responds to Chappelle", "part 5\n\nDave says 'look how well the LGBTQ movement is going' as a comparison to the racial equality movement. There are instances where it may be useful to compare movements to better understand varying methods of minority marginalization, but this discussion is wholly incomplete without the discussion of areas where they are not comparable, because systems of oppression uses different tactics to oppress different groups. In Dave's own HOME STATE of Ohio they passed a law that allows doctors to deny LGBTQ people health care on moral grounds. In 27 states, there are no explicit statewide laws at all protecting people from discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity in employment, housing and public accommodations. Which means in over half the country you can be fired or denied housing just for being gay or trans. Conversion therapy is legal in 30 states. Texas just banned a suicide hotline for LGBTQ youths\n\nRegarding the insinuation that the LGBTQ community responsible for Daphane's death, he didn't mention that she had lost custody of her child shortly before her suicide. Also, he didn't seem at that close as he refused to go to her funeral or 3 memorials of hers when invited. Also, nobody can find the bullying as described by Chappelle. Daphane's defense of Chappelle had less than 10 twitter replies", "part 6 (had to censor this a lot for it to not be deleted by the automod)\n\nHe also complained that Dababy got cancelled for being phobic but not for mrder. First, it's always easier for celebrities to attack individuals over attacking minorities\n\nThe CEO of papa john got cancelled for using a slur. Roseanne got cancelled for telling a POC person she looks like a animal. Kramer got cancelled for using the a slur.\n\nChris Brown got away with beating Rihanna. Don King stomped a guy to death and went on to become boxing's biggest promoter. Rbert Richards, heir to the DuPont company, was convicted of his daughter and served no jail time. Attacks on individuals don't elicit the media attention like racism and phobia do. But this is somehow the fault of the LGBTQ community?", "part 7 \n\nFurthermore, social media backlash isn't a strong indicator of the extent to which systemic racism and homophobia is being addressed in our society. There's still record high killings of trans people. Police can still largely murder POC and face no legal repercussions\n\nAnd even if you wanted to use that, KevinHart still making billion dollar movies, JKRowling still publishing novels, DaBaby recording a song for Kanyes new album. Megyn Kelly, Roseanne Barr, Michael Richards, CEO of papa johns are actually cancelled\n\nActual cancellations from social media backlash are when corporations stop doing business with a person because their image no longer brings in the same revenue as when they hired them. This never really challenges the root power structures and phobias in our society. It doesn't matter how many celebrities throw their careers in toilet, it won't affect systemic racism in policing", "part 8 \n\nI don't think Dave was homophobic/transphobic in his initial specials. He had some cognitive biases which resulting in him saying some hurtful stuff. But his refusal to accept any criticism and the resulting backlash has resulted in a full blown fear -> phobia of LGBTQ people besides 'the good ones' who are his friends. It's similar to a type of racism many white people have today; they believe in the idea of equality in general, but think the Black community are people hateful to white people when the kneel for the Anthem and criticize the police. They use isolated incidents like looting and random youtube videos to characterize the whole Black community. They think the average Black person has more privilege than the average white person by pointing to people being cancelled by racism the way Dave points to people being cancelled for homophobia. They think Black people are misguided in how they address systemic racism, and I feel Dave feels similarly about how LGBTQ address systemic homophobia/transphobia\n\nDave wants full equality for LGBTQ people but he didn't want them to address the very hurtful comments made by Kevin Hart or JK Rowling. He doesn't want them to call out people for using slurs; he complained about not being able to use the F-word slur. He also implied that the idea of the LGBTQ calling themselves 'my people' is racist, but at the end of the special used that exact phrase to refer to his fellow comedians, 'Stop punching down on my people'\n\nHe always tries to pit the LGBTQ community against the Black community. He complained 'why is it easier for Bruce Jenner to change his gender than it was for Cassius Clay to change his name'. Trans people EXISTED in the 60s, and throughout history. It wasn't easier, it took 50 years after the stonewall riots, which Dave actually referenced in his special. But why do this dumb game Dave wants us to play, does a person with cancer need to complain every time there's a breakthrough in AIDS research?\n\nIf his point is that the rich white power structures in our country are using LGBTQ issues to put down Black people, then he should go after the white power structures in our country directly and specifically. Maybe there are pockets of LGBTQ people putting down Black people like Peter Theil, but largely the white power structures strategy is to pit marginalized grounds against each other. The same people trying to put homophobia and transphobia into our school curriculum are the same ones who are trying to prevent Black people from voting\n\nDave says LGBTQ people act like minorities until it's convenient for them not to, but he's is doing exactly that with his cis/hetero/male privilege to wage with his fellow millionaire celebrities", "Explain?", "Maybe, just maybe, people who are ‘privileged’ as they like to say, should* be standing up to help people. \n\nMaybe we all should be outraged when trans people are mistreated. I’m sorry but it’s not up to public discussion whether they should be allowed to exist and live normally. Sorry if you think that’s dogma but no one asked you for your opinion.", "If you've got nothing then why comment?", "Telling rude jokes does not equal mistreatment. Being disagreed with does not equal mistreatment. What trans activists seem to want is for one particular group of people to be completely off the table in every single context because it might hurt their feelings. Then they retreat to the bailey and claim that all they want is for trans people to \"exist and live normally\" and pull the guilt and shame card as if criticizing or disagreeing automatically makes you a bad person. It's the height of dishonesty.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nThat's not how it works. You don't get to subvert fundamental social norms and demand everyone suddenly adopt your particular way of thinking without being disagreed with and criticized.", "At this point i believe you're trolling and deliberately playing dumb.\n\nBecause while English is not be my native language, i am trying to be cohesive which cannot be said that is being reciprocated.\n\n> Umm.. wut? Solidarity for.. who? The non-LGBT?\n\nHow can you lose track of the subject in not even a single paragraph, the answer is in the 3 words you decided not to quote.\n\n> So, you are being vague for reasons you can't say.....\n\nIve literally gave you THE reason why i won't dive to answer your ambiguous open ended question, which most likely it's sole purpose was to fish for something you can use to move the goalpost around.\n\nAnd best part is how you don't see that you proved my point by already trying to label me as \"you are against transpeoples rights\"....gee and you wonder why i'd need to write a paper to avoid being taken out of context....\n\n\nBut besides that, If you havnt seen and thus don't know what's being said in the special(s) or if it all went over your head somehow, you really shouldn't talk about it.\n\nOr you need to be honest and say that all you want is hours of material being condensed in one bite size phrase easy to digest that you can base a opinion on, if that's the case I'm not capable and far from willing to do that for you.\n\nSo i'll extend an olive branch, if it's not obvious truths then it must be lies ? hence it's up to you to list them.", "Why do you care? There are literally people out there worshipping Hitler right now and praying for the death of millions of people. There are literally people out there preparing weapons to kill people who don't agree with their religion.\n\nWhy do you care so much about the words of a person you don't know, will never know, had no control over your life and never will? Ffs", ">Ive literally gave you THE reason\n\nNo, you literally didn't. You have been very vague and i'm sure in YOUR head you can connect the dots and solve the puzzle but you are clearly using more time and effort to NOT say it. I mean, why write that many words about how you have said it when it would've been as much or less effort to tell me. It is CLEAR that i don't know what you mean, or i would not ask..\n\nI mean.. look at the situation. You said something, i asked and you say READ IT AGAIN. So. i did.. and i still an puzzled what you are trying to say. Repeating the same thing and nothing changing is the definition of stupidity. For WHAT EVER REASON i did not understand, then it makes absolutely NO sense to read the same words that i did not understand, while giving NOTHING to instruct me to interpret it. Which i find idiotic idea and mostly revealing: you don't WANT anyone to know exactly what you mean.\n\n>So i'll extend an olive branch, if it's not obvious truths then it must be lies ? hence it's up to you to list them.\n\nWhat lies? You have not really said anything yet. You just claim that there is this \"obvious truth\" and when asked you say to read the claim again. I can't list lies unless i know what the fuck you are talking about.\n\nBut, as these conversations go, i know you have retreated to your trenches and will NEVER admit that it would be possible for ANYONE to not understand what your original vague claim is about, and will use time and effort to come up dozens of reasons why you should not have to say it... instead of being just clear, honest and direct... not to mention, efficient. \n\n\nYou want me to be honest about why i'm doing this? Because you were being vague in a certain specific way that made me thing that your \"obvious truth\" is just being transphobic but you can't say it directly. And i honestly think that your avoidance of not saying it, is just more proof that my instincts were once again right. I usually am good at detecting the bullshitter who uses vague language to say something offensive. \"Those who know, know\" and the rest don't understand what you just said.", "and thise opinions are wrong and should be called out for the obvious bigotry that they are. someone else's existence is not up to opinion.", "Hillary doesn't care what color his wife is.", "The loudest minorities are the most priviledged, because being the loudest indicates that you're not the most suppressed.\n\nThe most suppressed minority are NOT able to have a voice, the most suppressed minorities are NOT able to be unified, the most suppressed don't get any media attention, are NOT able to affect laws or demand anything....\n\n\nI don't see how it's absurd, unless you'd confuse the word privileged for lack of a better word in my English vocabulary for someone who doesn't have any struggles.\n\n> Also the whole idea that \"I am black so I get to shit on trans people\" is kind of sickening.\n\nNow that's an absurd thing to say or in the best case, very disingenuous.", ">The loudest minorities are the most priviledged, because being the loudest indicates that you're not the most suppressed.\n\nWhat an irrational statement. How can any human being actually believe this? It's astonishing to me that humans exist which can string a sentence like this and actually believe it.\n\nDid you even think for one nanosecond that Chapelle has the loudest voice? Did that even occur to you? That his shitting on trans people was happening on netflix and was being broadcast all over the world?\n\nIt didn't did it?", "I did have something.", "wow, you found your one trans friend to be your shield, do you know how many other trans people there are that do condemn him.", "Hold on, you need to start by being less emotional. \n\nAnd don't say that you're not, because you couldn't see or comprehend that it wasn't about Dave Chappelle the individual.\n\nHe's not a minority \"entity\" on his own, he's a rich famous black man in modern day America, he's having a great time all things considered.\n\n\nThis is about the context of all his specials, all the issues in society and minorities he does talks about and how he put things into perspective.\n\nAlso, you need to elaborate on how he's \"shitting on trans people\" while keeping in mind the perspective.", "Lol fundamental social norms. Listen to yourself. \n\nNo, trans people can actually take jokes and laugh at themselves. Hate isn’t funny. Disagreeing with people’s equal rights is bollocks, sorry.\n\nThe only sensitive person here is bigots who don’t like being told to fuck off, and most of the time they aren’t, they are just crying that they are being ‘cancelled’ for being bigoted into their Netflix special money.", "Outrage sells. As long as they keep coming up with phrases like cancel culture, it will continue to be big business.", "Man Bill Burr is easily my favourite comedian, I keep trying to get into new comedians but it really is like wading through waist-high sewage for hours on end and you get nothing out of it most of the time.", "lol i think people like you who don't get what that means are in the minority, obviously\n\nif someone goes like ''duude did you see that guy in the tesla? he flew by man!'' are you gonna go \"what do you mean flew? you know teslas dont have wings right?\"", "I want to hear his fucking theories", "What you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read to it. I award you no upvotes, and may God have mercy on your soul.", "Heres the magic solution and it's really simple - stop getting outraged about fucking jokes you fragile ego'd motherfuckers.", "The onus is on the people telling jokes to not get triggered when their art is critiqued and analyzed for its rhetoric and intersectional impacts, but something tells me you'd rather just remain mad at a strawman idealization of progressivism instead of thinking critically", "These people continue to get platforms, money and success, in spite of criticism. They just want to say what ever they want with the stipulation that they don't have to face consequences for problematic things they might say", "Yes I am sure Dave is super triggered, wiping his tears with 100 dollar bills etc.\n\nThe entire outrage from this special is completely manufactured by the pro trans twitterites.", "And then he went on to legitimize JK Rowling and blame the death of his \"friend\" on the LGBTQ community, any nuance you think he had went right out the window with that lol", "Uh yes lol because if criticisms had no impact on him this wouldn't be his third special bringing this stuff up \n\nAnd yeah, people supportive of the trans community are creating the \"outrage\" by dissecting and analyzing the rhetoric and ideas displayed in Dave's special... I'm not sure what point you thought you were making there", "\"I had a trans friend\"\n\nHe tokenized a dead woman for his own gain and fucking misgendered her on purpose in his \"tribute\" for a fucking laugh.", "Wow, he really is a monster. I bet he hated her with a burning passion.", "There it is.", "Jokes like these have been linked to violence.\n\nhttps://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0002764219842617\n\nhttps://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9780230236776_2", "You're not thinking critically. This isn't about his art being \"critiqued & analysed\". They're trying to get his work eliminated, not just comment on it.", "> His whole special is essentially a light that shines on how the loudest minorities are in fact the most privileged.\n\nIf that was the point of his special then he is dead wrong giving that trans people have some of the least rights in America. \n\nAlternatively, I also think whole it's a comedy and it just jokes because Dave is popular and so is hating trans. If it was a white comedian telling similar jokes about black people. You wouldn't be defending him.", "and lots of cold lotion.", "Wow, racist police jokes.. did you not think I'd read the link or something? Completely irrelevant.", "Consequences? You sound like a religious elder seeking to punish people for their failure to adhere to your doctrine. \n\nThe appropriate \"consequence\" is Chappelle loses the viewership and interest of those who didn't like the content. That's the normal, reasonable, and rational consequence and fallout. \n\nPeople trying to hold Chappelle accountable for encouraging and inciting violence and even murder (as many of the activists have been trying to do) is not a \"consequence\", its hysteria.", "Here’s the thing though… it’s all well and good if you do your job and actually be funny. Re Chapelle’s last special.. not a lot of laughs to be had.", "> he most suppressed minority are NOT able to have a voice, the most suppressed minorities are NOT able to be unified, the most suppressed don't get any media attention\n\nI like how you think being suppressed or not is about having people defend you and have an actress on a tv show. Not the rights you actually have. You really need to do some research into rights people actually have.", "'Dissecting and analyzing the content of a comedy special' \n\nFun at parties are you? \n\nThis is possibly the whitest comment I've ever read.", "When they pay enough attention to see what the criticism is. Most reasonable people are paying it no mind. So it makes the idiotic hysteria it's invoked seem more representative than it is.", ">After watching that I had more sympathy for the trans community than ever\n\nThis has been so many people's reaction. I've been astounded by the number of comments from men who are Chappelle fans saying how moved they were, a really surprising number even to tears. \n\nChappelle was right on the money: connecting as humans having a human experience is where it's at. Not all the ideological, purity politics bullshit that the outrage mongers are trying to force on everyone and calling it \"inclusivity\".", ">did you not think I'd read the link or something?\n\nNo, seeing how these are two links and one is an academic paper. I get you do not care, but what is that thing that you guys say Facts aren't feelings. The fact is that these sorts of jokes lead to violence and given Daves history, he knows the weight these types of jokes have.", "He said he was team TERF in the specific context of trans women not being biological women. That is it. Sure he conflated sex and gender but who gives a shit about semantics when he essentially agrees with you. He spent the rest of the special being friendly with trans people and using proper pronouns. Pay attention to the entire context and stop cherry picking.", "Cards against humanity is the cards against humanity of comedy. Honestly though I've seen most of his stuff and he doesn't seem to do that, only when the crowd auidbly gasps or boos or whatever does he make a point of how easily offended they are.", ">trans people can actually take jokes and laugh at themselves\n\nBut when someone else does it, it's suddenly hate. The hypocrisy.", "You're not making any sense, and i don't see how any level of reading comprehension could bring you to that conclusion.\n\n\nBut then again, maybe that's why you're desperately trying to put words in my mouth and decided to stop the quote were you did.", "What gets me is how much credence we give these complaints. If a trans person says they dont feel safe working at neflix because of daves special im sorry but I flat out dont believe them. Its too outlandish to be true and yet you have seemingly smart normal people taking them completely seriously. These people are running an emotional scam, they feel powerful when you take their obviously fake complaints seriously. In the rare situation where someone actually somehow felt unsafe from daves special that just means they need years or therapy because the entire world must have them quaking.", ">Putting words in my mouth\n\nI directly quoted you. Also, it doesn't matter where I stopped you argument was just repeating the same phrase that implied that trans people don't face these problems despite that in 2021 117 bills were introduced in 33 states to restrict the rights of transgender people, but sure according to you they are just drama queens.", "You can't submit your work to a public and expect them to always react positively. Dave spent 3 straight specials hung up on trans people. He's stuck in the same trap that people who want to say n***r are. He feels society won't let him say this one thing so he's bitching and moaning over it. He needed to just move on and instead he tripled down, and now he's somehow become a conservatives wet dream because he's doing their minority demographic in-fighting for them. He basically spent the last special doing the equivalent of \"it's okay for me to say this, I have a trans friend\", parading this poor dead woman around and making it all about him. James Acaster summed up the problem [here](https://youtu.be/adh0KGmgmQw?t=153).", "He’s either incredibly young or incredibly dense. His arguments are non cohesive and he consistently diverts to essentially pouting and saying something that has nothing to do with the discussion or point being made. Read my chain with him in the Chappelle thread. I’m laughing so hard i came across this dude AGAIN in another thread.", "The links were irrelevant, I don't care if they are academic studies! Shall I link you to an academic study on the behaviours of jumping spiders, would that prove my point?", "It's not irritated. You are just a moron. You claim that these are just jokes and no one is really getting harmed. Well here is the data that says you are wrong.", "Seriously, I love Dave and this special is the weakest material I've seen from him. I agree with the premise that no topic should be off limits just because some are offended. But someone of Dave's rhetorical caliber should be able to deliver that message in a way that makes me think and is hilarious, and I can't say this special did much of either. Makes me wonder if the constant praise of being the GOAT, getting the Mark Twain award, etc. are going to his head.", "> Heres the magic solution and it's really simple - stop getting outraged about fucking jokes you fragile ego'd motherfuckers.\n\n\\proceeds to get and stay outraged that others are outraged\\", "Plenty of black queer people or hell even other black people in general are saying and doing everything I am. Good attempt at delegitimizing critiques though", "Your downvotes highlight how mainstream transphobia still is. Much like the gay panic of the 1980s...\n\nI fucking hate the culture war", "He literally said he agreed with people who hate trans people, that’s hate, unless you have a different definition.\n\nAnd by ‘take a joke’ I included other people having a laugh who weren’t trans.", "No he didn't. He only agreed on the fact that trans women are not biological women. He even made fun of TERFs by saying they react to trans people like its blackface. How nice of you to ignore everything else he mentioned like having trans friends and using proper pronouns.\n\nYou can agree on certain things with shitty people and still not associate with them.", "Fair enough", "Frustrated more than outraged. Never seen a community in more need of a sense of humour transplant. I blame twitter.", "Pretty sure it's not the critique but the organised movements to end their employment and* employability the comedians are \"triggered\" by.", "When you say \"the site is always ready...\", who exactly are you referring to? Sort of tired of this attitude of \"THIS SITE IS ALWAYS BLAH BLAH BLAH BUT NOT ME! I'M JUST HERE OBSERVING ALL THE IDIOTS!\"", ">‘I’m team TERF’ etc. \n\nThis is a dishonest representation of what he actually said though, and it's highlighting the point that people are using specific words to attack him, and try and make it so people who want to view the special can't.\n\nYou are ignoring the greater context of the bit, he had been calling himself \"Transphobic Comedian Dave Chappelle\" for the better part of the show, which I shouldn't have to point out, was obviously in jest. When he brought up TERF, he used it to explain how that label could apply to him, based on his opinion about Caitlyn Jenner, mainly that her winning woman of the year seemed really unfair to him.\n\nDuring this same time, he also took the time to tell a story about a transwoman he met, who gave him a stern talking to about what he does and the result was..... he really liked and respected the person, regardless of if he agreed with everything. He didn't misgender, he later stuck up for how shitty the NC bathroom bill was, and he have a platform to a trans comedian who otherwise never would have had the opportunity. Hes even put together a fund for that comedians child.\n\nThe entire bit was about humanity, and not controlling the words people choose to use, and how online spaces have become toxic places of hateful group think and misinformation being spread, which is obviously true.", "Then where was it?", ">Hate isn’t funny.\n\nI agree, what is your opinion on the Asian hate that came out from the leader of the protest against Chapelle?", "That duck dynasty bit lol “I thought I was a good boy”", "Fuck off, I'm neither American nor a leftist.", "The mental gymnastics to defend someone who said he agreed with terfs as actually supporting trans people.", "There’s no ‘leader’.\n\nAre you accusing me of not being against hatred of Asian people?", ">The mental gymnastics to defend someone who said he agreed with terfs as actually supporting trans people.\n\nNo, it's the lack of using your mind that is the problem. In your mind you can't possibly say that word without meaning X, and Chappelle deliberately pointed out sure you can, and did.\n\nIf you don't wanna see that, it's on you, but you are ignoring literally everything he said, because he used one word, which isn't moving the needle for me, or anyone else who enjoyed the show. What you are doing is the bad thing, and it's worth fighting against.", "Is your head this far in the sand?\n\nYes, there was a leader of the walk out at Netflix, Terra Field. She has said some pretty hateful things toward Asians, and they surfaced.", "Odd hill for you to choose to die on.", "Yes I read those. Does that mean in your mind that Dave Chapelle isn’t transphobic?", "No, having heard his content makes me feel he isn't. I dispute the validity of Terra Field's argument, and her hatefulness, combined with her actions, is telling me she isn't the one to be siding with. she isn't honest about Dave's content, and she is just as hateful as anyone.", "Do you actually have anything to say, or are you just gonna attempting passive aggressive non insults?", "I am fully capable of coming to my own conclusions and the fact someone else did the same means nothing. \n\nNice try, logical fallacy though.", "I thought we were done here? Carry on enjoying your transphobic jokes and I’ll continue to call them out.", "Lol no, it isn't.", "Imagine being this out of touch lol", "Oh you mean, facing consequences for actions? The rhetoric and mentality displayed in the special is literally getting trans people killed. This sort of shit is the exact reason Dave left his own show. People utilized the rhetoric of Dave's jokes about the black community to dehumanize and delegitimize black oppression and the black experience.", "Because you're making false equivalencies and believing they're legitimate retorts lol", "Says the person clinging onto \"team TERF\" to manufacture anger", "Aww look who has no actual ground to stand on and resorts to petty insults that just displays your lack of education on sociopolitical topics. I'm sorry you're so offended by critical thinking and analytical frameworks lol", "> Oh you mean, facing consequences for actions?\n\nNo I pretty clearly meant wildly disproportionate repercussions for words.\n\n>The rhetoric and mentality displayed in the special is literally getting trans people killed. \n\nOk, should be easy to cite specific examples of his rhetoric that have gotten specific people killed.", "Whatever you have to tell yourself bud. Still waiting for an actual retort and not just a bunch of hollow insults for you to feel better about yourself. Don't have much faith in you being intellectually honest though lol", ">No I pretty clearly meant wildly disproportionate repercussions for words.\n\n\nDisproportionate by what measure? And saying things like \"oh they're just jokes/words\" is laughably disingenuous, especially since not even Dave subscribes to that mentality, seeing as how he left his own show under similar circumstances of the rhetoric of his words being used to dehumanize black people.\n\n\n>Ok, should be easy to cite specific examples of his rhetoric that have gotten specific people killed.\n\nYou mean like how he legitimized TERF mentalities and talking points, going so far as to defend JK Rowling? When that results in trans people being dehumanized which in turn means their plight and oppression isn't taken seriously and they don't often have adequate acceaa to health services? Or disingenuously weaponizing his associates death as a way to delegitimize analytical critiques of rhetoric in media which causes the very issue I just discussed? When Daphne's literal friend and roommate revealed that Dave's claims of friendship were way overblown and his assertion that the trans community drove Daphne to suicide was unsubstantiated at best? \n\nUsing basic critical thinking and common sense, it isn't hard to understand that the mentality and perception on display has real world consequences, just like Dave's jokes did with the black community.", "> Disproportionate by what measure?\n\nThe measure of any reasonable person.\n\n>You mean like how he legitimized TERF mentalities and talking points, going so far as to defend JK Rowling? blah blah blah etc\n\nOk, so you have no actual examples to back up your massive claim? Not at all surprised by that.\n\nAlso...\n\n>and his assertion that the trans community drove Daphne to suicide \n\nHe made no such assertion, stop lying.", "Find me one moment in which he has ever said that you can’t say anything anymore", "Coming from someone who triple posted and added nothing.", ">no, it isn't\n\nGlad you agree. It * isn't * about what your foregoing comment falsely suggested re: art vei G critiqued and analysed. Good for you that you can see that now and declare \"it isn't\".", "In what way does the data in your link relate to dave chappelle's closer?", "That the jokes Dave told harm people. If someone told similar jokes type of about black people. You wouldn't be defending them.", ">Hold on, you need to start by being less emotional.\n\nWhat makes you think I am being emotional? Also why are you so upset when people are emotional? Are you one of those sociopaths who are incapable of feeling or understanding emotions?\n\n>And don't say that you're not, because you couldn't see or comprehend that it wasn't about Dave Chappelle the individual.\n\nAnd don't say that I am just because you are a sociopath. This entire topic is aboutDave Chappelle the individual.\n\n>He's not a minority \"entity\" on his own, he's a rich famous black man in modern day America, he's having a great time all things considered.\n\nAnd complaining about being oppressed by white people and trans people.\n\n>Also, you need to elaborate on how he's \"shitting on trans people\" while keeping in mind the perspective.\n\nHe made two specials about how much he doesn't believe trans women are women. He is on team TERF.", "No one had ever told him \"Hey Bill...you're looking kinda ashy today.\"", "That's circular logic, you understand that?\n\nNo, I don't get offended by jokes, if I don't like what a comedian has to say I simply don't watch them.", "It's not circle logic. It's literally back by research. Research you refuse to read.", "He said that he is a TERF. TERF stands for Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist. TERFs believe that trans women are not women, and are actually predators, and that trans men, are victims of the patriarchy. Similar to how anti-Semitic believe that Jewish people, are not people and are predators.\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TERF\n\nThe TERF movement among feminists dates back to the 1970s \nhttps://www.vox.com/identities/2019/9/5/20840101/terfs-radical-feminists-gender-critical\n\nHearing someone as famous and as influential as him, say that he is on the team of TERFs, which are people that believe that trans people do not deserve equal human rights as cis people is insulting, and upsetting to the queer (a minority) community, especially coming from such a rich and famous minority as himself.\n\nDoes that clear things up? If history repeats itself, the moral panic about transgenderism is analogous to the gay panic of the 1980s. This era is called so because of this law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense that came into effect in a number of countries as a defense for murderers of gay people.", "[TERF](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TERF) \n \n >TERF () is an acronym for trans-exclusionary radical feminist. First recorded in 2008, the term originally applied to the minority of feminists espousing sentiments that other feminists considered transphobic, such as the rejection of the assertion that trans women are women, the exclusion of trans women from women's spaces, and opposition to transgender rights legislation. The meaning has since expanded to refer more broadly to people with trans-exclusionary views who may have no involvement with radical feminism. Those referred to with the word TERF typically reject the term or consider it a slur; some identify themselves as gender critical.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", ">> trans people can actually take jokes and laugh at themselves\n\n> But when someone else does it, it's suddenly hate. The hypocrisy\n\nYou sound like someones racist white uncle asking: 'why cant they say the N word, but black people can' lmao", "Thats denying their existence. How is this different than saying: 'a jewish person isn't a person?' Gender is a social construct.", "We're not talking about gender, it's the sex. How is being aware of the fact of biology denying their existence? You are manufacturing your own outrage. And that's a terrible analogy.", "And you sound like a weak example of a liberal who looks for fights. If you can't comprehend nuance then gtfo.", "Using common sense and basic intelligence, one could understand that my reply was in reference to your last statement, but it's very apparent critical thinking is beyond your grasp", "He literally said that JK was misunderstood and claimed that Daphne's own community turned on her and that drove her to suicide. That's what he implied when he said \"she was on my team in that moment, not theirs\" \n\nIt's literally all in the special, but it's clear you're being disingenuous and you don't care at all about intellectual honesty", "I'm not a liberal you dumb hog lmao", "Still nothing but your claim that he said this. Which makes me think that you saw it on twitter and believed it, rather than actually hearing the man say it.", "And I'm not a racist white uncle", "It's telling as fuck that you think you're so modern and progressive but you refer to \"trans people\" and trans activists under the same umbrella. They're not the same. We're not talking about \"trans people\". Trans activists have an ideology and are a group, they aren't necessarily even trans themselves. They're the narcissists screaming on twitter and staging protests about jokes. You don't know what \"trans people\" believe because they're not an ideological group. Kaitlyn Jenner voted for Trump for christs sake.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nThis is what's known as a \"motte and bailey\" argument. You and the trans activists want to completely redefine how everyone thinks of sex and gender, and force people to use new made-up pronouns as your motte. And then when anyone disagrees or jokes about it you run back to your bailey and accuse them of being hateful bigots who don't want \"trans people\" to have human rights. This is dishonesty and I genuinely wonder whether you realize it or if you're so used to doing it that you think you're being sincere.", "At this point, the trans community is just shooting itself in the foot and effectively making transphobia worse by the merits of their own attitudes and mentally ill behavior.\n\nThey don't wanna just be another sub culture, they want power over the larger culture, and people smell it from a mile away.", "I watched the full special. I'm trans so I'm speaking from the perspective of my community. I know you're a troll account who just wants to argue with people on the internet for fun, but I will take the chance in this thread to educate anyone else reading this for future prosperity.", "But you are an idiot LMAO", "Then why not put it in the comment?", "Do you always resort to insults when you don't have an argument?", "So give an actual quote, in context. Nobody has been able to do this yet. Why? Is it because it hurts your victimhood and makes him look like less of a monster to quote what he actually said? \n\n&#x200B;\n\nYou're not \"speaking from the perspective\" of anyone but yourself. Being trans doesn't automatically give your opinion any more weight. You're not \"educating\" anyone. You're just giving your opinions without anything to back them up.", "?????", "If you've got nothing, why comment anything at all?", "Using basic reading comprehension and grammar you could have saved yourself some embarrassment and made a coherent sentence. \n\nAs it is, yours makes no sense because my last statement didn't say that anything \"is\" anything.\n\nThere's literally nothing in my comment that \"no it isnt\" could correspond to, except as set out above.", "Yup. And as Chappelle himself so effectively characterised it: \"Taking a man's livelihood away is akin to killing him\". They're trying to actually prevent people being able to live or operate in the world. In contrast, most people -including the activists' most hated enemies- genuinely aren't doing or trying to do that to trans ppl.", "It's in there.", "That pseudo intellectual posturing cracks me up. [Here's](https://youtu.be/BRpjdrFCYT8) footage from the Netflix walk out protest which literally shows those supporters in action, setting upon an internet personality who had a sign supporting Dave. They proceeded to steal and destroy his sign, hysterically shout he had a weapon when he was then left holding the stick on which the sign had been mounted, and then there was that one individual aggressively shaking a tambourine in the guys face while screaming \"REPENT MOTHERFUCKER!!!\".\n\nBut sure. Those people weren't \"outraged\", right? lol don't even bother with that dishonest Muppet, bro.", "Ooh ya beat me to it.", "Why would I be embarrassed from someone disingenuously interpreting my responses lol I guess it's easier to red herring text you deliberately interpreted in your favor as opposed to making any actual coherent point about the topic at hand. Whatever you need to do to feel better about yourself I guess lol", "I know what you mean, it's hard to compare anyone with Burr.\n\nCheck out maniscalco. One of the few stand up comedians i found to be actually funny.", "You said Chappelle’s special is literally getting trans people killed. Now please literally cite a source for your claim. Nobody watched the special and then went and killed a trans person because of it. Literally.", ">I don’t know if was them dragging or I don’t know what was going on in her life but I bet dragging her didn’t help. \n\nTell me again about his assertions and your hypocritical love of \"intellectual honesty\". Liar.", "I read both of those links and neither are research. The first link is an academic axiom that even says in it’s conclusion that it suggests research be done. The other link is a chapter from a book. If you believe that those are definitive proof of anything then you’re deceiving yourself in an attempt to validate your argument.", "Don’t be ridiculous mate. No one brought up ‘made-up pronouns’ but you.\n\nJust calling someone their preferred male or female pronoun isn’t such a chore so get over yourself and learn some basic respect. \n\nMost Trans people are aware they are their birth gender “biologically”, everyone is. I’ve even known activists say the same, I highly recommend you watch a YouTube channel that addresses this, I’ll get you the link.\n\n[Contrapoints on JK Rowling](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7gDKbT_l2us)\n\nThe difference is for TERFs they bring hatred into it. If you’re team TERF, then as Chapelle identified, you actively hate trans people - and you’re team hatred.", "There you go with the bailey again. We both know it's dishonest so I don't understand why you keep doing it? Is it because we both know your position is weak so the only way you can gain ground is to convince yourself I'm some kind of evil bigot?\n\n&#x200B;\n\nI've got no problem calling people what they present as. If someone presents as a woman I will happily call them \"she\" because that's the polite thing to do. Most normal people feel the same way. However we both know that's not the extent of the trans activists demands and to assert otherwise would be highly dishonest. They are literally trying to force everyone to redefine the meaning of man and woman. They throw a tantrum every time someone jokes about them or hints at any disagreement. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nSo far nobody has actually given me a quote in context of what Chapelle actually said, I can only assume it's because you haven't actually heard him say anything and you're joining in with the twitter outrage, or that actually quoting him would hurt your argument.", "No, it really isn't. \"JUST TRUST ME BRO\" doesn't count as quoted evidence and Saying \"HURR DURR UR STOOPID I LAFF AT U\" doesn't count as an argument. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nShhhh now the adults are talking, go sit at the children's table", "What, so you want me to go and copy paste the whole segment here or else “I lose” lol, no. That’s not how it works.\n\nThere’s no one forcing you to do anything. Literally no one.\n\nThough you have added things that Chapelle didn’t even bother addressing, not sure if that’s a good thing that he’s emboldened people like you or kudos for at least having your own opinion. Dave didn’t really mention activists other than TERFS. They don’t have a problem with activists, they have a problem with all trans people (but mainly the transwomen).\n\nAlso, I’m bored of this so I’m not going to reply or read anything you post back.", "Yeah actually that is how it works. \"Just trust me bro\" does not count as evidence.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nOh you're suddenly \"bored\" when pressed for evidence and that's why you're going to make a hasty exit. Sure sure sure I totally believe you. It's got nothing to do with the fact that you've got NOTHING and you're trying to save face. Lie to yourself all you like but you can't lie to me.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nYou're the ones making the claim that he said something, yet none of you can actually give a quote in context. I'm talking to like 4 people here and not one of you can provide an actual quote. You're all trying every dishonest trick in the book but it all boils down to nothing but opinions you got from twitter.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nIf you were arguing with some gap toothed trumptard and they refused to give any evidence whatsoever of something Hillary supposedly said, what would you say to them? What would be your immediate assumption about the honesty and intelligence of that person?", "You sound really agitated and upset. Are you OK?", ">LOL U MAD BRO\n\nWeird how none of you can just post the quote and resort to being childish, it's almost like you're all full of shit", "You are really starting to get unhinged.", ">I read both of those links and neither are research\n\nJust because you don't know how to read the websites doesn't mean the information isn't. Do you want me to treat you like a child and show you with colorful arrows where the research is located?\n\n>definitive proof of anything then you’re deceiving yourself in an attempt to validate your argument.\n\nThe irony of this statement is that you could easy Google my claim and find out that infact I am right. You didn't because you don't want claim to be validated. I get conservative actually hate facts.", ">LOL U MAD BRO U SO MAD\n\nYep you're still full of shit", "Yes please link me the research, if it was so readily available I’m not sure why you chose the two links that you did. Then again I apparently cannot read and am a child so...", "Seriously dude. You need to take a breath or two. You are slipping.", ">it was so readily available I’m not sure why you chose the two links that you d\n\nBecause that is called slamming. Which can get you banned. Why do I feel like your only plan to debate in bad faith? Since you claimed to read the links and one is an article with research in yet that you pretend doesn't exist. \n\nhttp://imgur.com/a/Isva1jD\n\nNot even a minute on Google showed these results. Wanna pretend I'm wrong now?\n\n>http://imgur.com/a/fQLmhV2\n\nI'm willing to bet you didn't read there since you have to make accounts.", "no u", "And then he went on to legitimize a TERF talking point and unironically call himself a TERF because \"gender is a fact\", which is disingenuous. Biological determinism has been discredited by many academic fields for how ots weaponized to delegitimize trans people. This isn't that hard to understand.", "That could scarcely be less relevant to the actual point you're responding to. You said he said a thing, he didn't say it. You're a liar.", "I'm not lol it's very clear he was attempting to excuse Joanne's beliefs", "> and his assertion that the trans community drove Daphne to suicide\n> \n> \n\nThere's your lie, stop trying to dance away from it blabbering about JK fucking Rowling \"lol\"", "Neither of those relate in any way to a comedian telling jokes. You should just admit that you're wrong.", ">Joke racist and sexist jokes lead violence\n\nYou- this isn't related to racist sexist jokes.\n\nWanna try that again.", "You know what a comedian is? It's different when you're at acomedy show and you hear a joke about your identity Vs someone at your work makes a joke specifically about you, or racist police telling jokes to each other as a way of perpetuating attitudes to black people. \n\nPlease tell me you understand.", "Yeah the comedian has a bigger audience which means his words have the ability to cause the most harm. There is no difference between being a racist co-worker and a racist comedian.\n\n>Please tell me you understand\n\nI understand there was a video recently where a guy \"joked\" about killing people because he think people are forced to wear mask. What happen when someone who heard that jokes actually kills somebody?", "If that's what you're discussing, that's also easily verified: \n\n\"Daphne had a tweet stating that punching down requires you to think less of them, and I know Dave, he doesn't think less. He punches all lines and he's a master of his craft...beautiful tweet, beautiful friend, it took a lot of heart to defend me like that...and when she did that tweet, *the trans community dragged that bitch all over Twitter. For days they were going in on her, and she was holding her own because she's funny. And 6 days after that wonderful night I described to you, she killed herself.* Now I don't know if it was the dragging on her or something else, but I'm sure the dragging didn't help...now I don't know what the trans community did for her, *but I don't care, she wasn't a part of their tribe, she was mine...now I hope to be alive when [Daphne's daughter] turns 21, so I can give her money myself, and say I knew your father, he was a wonderful woman.**\"\n\nSo, besides the dehumanizing phobic caricatures and comments hiding behind a thin disingenuous veil of sentimentality, there is a clear implicit association between Daphne being criticized and her death. It's really clear to see that through line that he's making. He can back track and say \"well it might have been X, but I'm sure Y didn't help\" but the implication is clear.", "Ah, so now it's an implication where before it was an \"assertion\". See how the rodent scurries.", "Lol whatever you have to tell yourself bud", "Imagine downvoting like a petulant child. I'm not telling myself anything, you're the one who used the word then had to shift your position due to being called out as a liar. But clearly you have a pathological need for the last word, no matter how much of a tit you have to make of yourself to get it. It's all yours.", ">Imagine downvoting like a petulant child. \n\nImagine getting this triggered over downvotes lol\n\n\n>I'm not telling myself anything, you're the one who used the word then had to shift your position due to being called out as a liar. \n\nYeah, you playing the Ackshually game to try and diminish the overall point and argue over semantics is disingenuous\n\n>But clearly you have a pathological need for the last word, no matter how much of a tit you have to make of yourself to get it. It's all yours.\n\nAgain, whatever you have to tell yourself.", "Ok so you don't understand. I don't think you ever will.\n\n>I understand there was a video recently where a guy \"joked\" about killing people because he think people are forced to wear mask. What happen when someone who heard that jokes actually kills somebody? \n\nWhat happens when someone watches Romeo and Juliet and kills their family member or commits suicide? \n\nWhat happens when someone plays mortal combat and rips their siblings spine out through their neck? \n\nWhat happens when someone watches Tom and Jerry and microwaves their cat? \n\nWe should ban all forms of art, television, the news, plays, comedy so no one will hear a joke and go and kill someone.\n\nI think you know how ridiculous you are.", ">What happens when someone watches Romeo and Juliet and kills their family member or commits suicide\n\nRomeo and Juliet isn't about teen suicide nor does the movie make light of it. It's about infatuation. Which people do all that time. Your example are really bad.\n\n>Ok so you don't understand. I don't think you ever will.\n\nYour the one who doesn't understand. Idk how to reach you. I've given you data. You even had enough time to Google and verify the information, but you didn't. The sad truth is you only reason you are arguing is because you don't want to be held accountable for your own racist jokes." ]	214	videos	Bill Burr explaining the Dave Chappelle situation almost 5 years ago. (first 2:00)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTl6xVMbJ6Y	/r/videos/comments/qgmedq/william_s_burroughs_on_snl_in_1981_at_the_age_of/	[ "Language Is A Virus!", "William S. Burroughs' books were actually way fucked up, for his time. I highly recommend them to anyone with treacherous curiosity and a strong stomach.", "Naked Lunch? I can think of at least 2 things wrong with that title!", "Imagine an audio book of Naked Lunch with Burroughs reading it." ]	4	videos	William S. Burroughs on SNL in 1981 at the age of 68.
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qgmpxf/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qgmpxf/deleted_by_user/	[ "Fuck yea", "I'm into it. I like that they're not doing a shot for shot remake as some were speculating. I don't think it's going to rewrite television history but it looks like it should be fun, good enough for me.", "non show watcher both trailers looklike great fun", "Looks good. \n\nExcept at 0:23 when the gunshot is obviously fake. Real gun has recoil and slide movement [like this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HElQk2wEY5w#t=6s). Or like the film Outside the Wire, where the poster has the actor holding what's clearly an Airsoft (toy) gun (it has a winding knob on the bottom of the magazine). \n\nI don't mean to nitpick, but when you don't even have recoil it really kills the immersion.", "They’re future guns that don’t have recoil, problem solved", "Never saw the show, just the\\a animated movie. I thought it was pretty good. \n\nI don't know how this trailer lives up to the anime but I'm interested.", "Then they'd look like future guns. I'm not against laser guns or whatever, but if the guns all look exactly like current-day guns, I expect them to work that way. \n\nI recognize that a lot of people may not care, but it just comes off as a sloppy detail done wrong.", "They call themselves cowboys, you think they’re going to be running around with Marvin the Martian ray guns?\n\nLasers are too inefficient, they work on Spike’s ship because it has its own fusion reactor and waste heat management but they don’t scale down.\n\nThe guns look like present-day guns but internally they work like a gauss cannon. The cartridges you see in a magazine later on are actually ceramic super capacitors with a steel bolt at one end. The bolt is propelled to supersonic speeds in nanoseconds by staged electromagnets powered by the supercap.\n\nThe entire thing is solid state so the slide doesn’t need to move except to open for maintenance. The recoil is minimal because the only force comes from propelling the bolt, which is many times less massive than the gun housing. Piezoelectric bearings capture what little recoil there is and direct it into the later stages of the gauss chamber.\n\nThe muzzle flash is superheated ionized gas being pushed out of the barrel by the bolt.", "This is a huge relief after that terrible one a week or so ago. \n\nExpectations have received a slight bump from this.", "And if they explain all that in the story, sure. \n\nOtherwise it's just crappy VFX because they're too cheap to hire a set armorer." ]	10	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjY8HvpNu6o	/r/videos/comments/qgndab/fever_dream/	[ "Prince is, and will always be, The Man.", "buttless pants: \nhttps://youtu.be/FvnG_k-Dn2w", "Best song in the movie", "fever dream? this is pretty straightforward Prince", "Yeah kids these days don't understand \n\nI guess it's also because we just don't get music videos like this now", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ddXb54cqxY", "In a room full of the coolest people on Earth Prince is still the coolest person on Earth. \n \\~ Seth Meyers", "the Party Man?" ]	8	videos	Fever Dream
https://youtu.be/FZ3kWV38OhI	/r/videos/comments/qgnmzg/purdin_mo_tornado_too_close_for_comfort/	[ "That slow mo at the end is intense. It looked like they were about to get hit by a window frame.", "That entire barn just disintegrated. They're lucky they got out.", "They're lucky the wood splinters didn't turn into bullets.", "Fucking scumbag storm chasers, driving like a bat out of hell on dangerous hilly, curvy, no shoulders farm-to-market roads, endangering everyone in their path to get their precious video. So trashy.", "This is probably some of the best video editing I've seen in a while." ]	5	videos	Purdin, MO Tornado: Too Close for Comfort!
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qgodyg/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qgodyg/deleted_by_user/	[ "Its a polishing cloth with a 10 to 12 week wait time. A stupid product from a pappas company. Your dramatic video was a waste of time just like apple", "Oh look, a banshee offering the sort of mental incompetence that results from being dropped on his head, eating paint chips, and not being strangled and tossed into a working freezer.", "The video creator decided to spend an entire day filming this shit, likely an entire week of planning, I would be surprised if less than three friends were coerced into a day of filming this utter shitscape of artistic urea. He thought he would pull off the style of into Chris Ramsay has been perfecting, the stylized reveal of an amazing work of art, instead they ended up showcasing the unfathomable layers of protection they've been keeping around their virginity. For what? A God damn cloth to clean overpriced bullshit. We all know it's bullshit. At one point apple was just horseshit, but it's graduated. Now first year film students at an uncredited community school think grabbing the low hanging fruit and driving their creative cocks deep inside the rotten core to impress their instructor by making fun of more bullshit is this worth eight and a half minutes? Fuck off. Fuck off and try again. \n\nThis is why comedians tells jokes that sting. This is why authors write about worlds were not allowed to talk about anymore. To keep us thinking. This video is a Trump campaign, this is lawyers putting ads on TV about class action lawsuits, this is why we have Goop and Scientology. Becuase art is dead. We stimize creators that make us feel, just feel anything. This video just made me sad, reminded that low hanging fruit, safe for the masses are still getting attention.\n\n\nOP pulled out, https://youtu.be/SRUewOtcpzY\n\nThat was the video", "Ouch." ]	4	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/bcFBwLHzG7Y	/r/videos/comments/qgpz08/brain_fart_20/	[ "Funny, how everything I posted gets deleted in seconds.......but this. This stays.", "What did you post?", "Man after the first three I started posting random obscure YouTube videos just to test the system every one of them got deleted as soon as I refreshed the screen within seconds. I even posted a video that I shot myself of a SpaceX launch that's on my YouTube channel and that was deleted as well. The first time I tried to post that rocket video? It it's spent like 27 or 28 days waiting to be approved." ]	3	videos	Brain Fart 2.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flXRXCNEk0I	/r/videos/comments/qgrmzq/marine_veteran_disarms_gunman_robbing_gas_station/	[ "Then goes on national TV wearing his red MAGA hat. What a fucking douche bag.\n\nEdit: fixed auto correct", "Why?", "You know, [double bag](http://double-bag.urbanup.com/6823665)." ]	3	videos	Marine Veteran Disarms Gunman Robbing Gas Station
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB6yucemJ-o	/r/videos/comments/qgrxh9/dr_rhonda_patrick_on_vaccine_misinformation_and/	[ "I'm surprised JR had this interview. She handled his interview style very well. Maybe he is looking to redeem his image of being a complete contrarian when it comes to the vaccine issue. At least he had her on the show. Although I'm not sure how much he listened to her - I hope he did.\n\nThanks for sharing.", "Yeah, he seemed mildy disinterested and kept fishing for antivax statements. \nBut thats Rogan for you after 2020.", "Contrarian? He always said that the most vulnerable should get a vaccine.", "Fair. But considering all the medical journals, public health officials, and the CDC recommend everyone get the vaccine, the fact he tells any group not to get the vaccine is contrarian in my opinion. Also his use of ivermectin would be considered contrarian as no governing body/medical organization has recommended it (yes he did have multiple treatments including antibodies but when he talks about the various therapies he speaks about each as if they're interchangeable/equivalent, when they are not).", "And even a bit before that. There's trying to figure things out and there's fishing for gotcha moment...", "Damn he’s not looking too good", "His doctor reccomended it. And if you take your vaccine opinions from a non-doctor then xD", "unfortunately many of his fans trust his opinion over medical organizations. \n\nHis doctor prescribing it at his request does not equate to the doctor recommending it. At best, his physician was embracing the principal of autonomy when it comes medical ethics. At worst, his physician was peddling an unproven treatment (source: [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8406455/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8406455/)) and JR chose this person to be their physician, because, like JR, they are also (partly) a contrarian.\n\nI'll hope for the best.", "Many of his fans are fucking morons.", "There is risk in everything we do. Because a small percentage of people die in fatal car accidents doesn’t mean we shouldn’t ever drive cars. Some people fall down stairs. Doesn’t mean we don’t go downstairs. We accept the “price” of these risks for the benefits they bring us. \n\nYes, you can choose to not do either of those things. Some people certainly do, but they likely also meet criteria for some type of anxiety disorder. Those who choose not to take the vaccine at this point either have an anxiety disorder or are beholden to beliefs akin to religion with willful disregard to logic.", "The car thing is not a good analogy for covid being a necessary risk... Cars are heavily regulated and safety tested, you have to wear a seat belt, you can't drive drunk, you need to be licensed, you have to wear glasses if you have bad vision, you can have your license revoked if you break certain laws, etc.\n\nSo clearly we recognize driving has risks and we go to great lengths to mitigate those risks, including criminalizing certain behavior more harshly when it puts others at risk (dui). \n\nIt's the same with covid. Yes we can't lock down forever so we need to take measures to mitigate risks of social interaction during covid, like masks in the short term and vaccines as a permanent solution.\n\nEdit: I think I misread your original comment lol.", "I used to listen to his show a lot and he's had her on before, to his credit when she's on he usually just lets her just do her thing and talk about medical stuff. So much actually that I very seldom ever finished an episode she was on just because I didn't really understand much of what she was talking about.", "He has Dr Rhonda Patrick on regularly. He respects her opinions, even if he disregards them sometimes.", "Joe Rogan seems quick to question and challenge every single point that counters his bias. But almost nothing on the points that confirm his bias.\n\n:$", "This clips is from August. Joe caught the virus shortly after in early September. Would be neat to see him conduct the same interview after his experience. \n\nBest I can find is him talking about it with Tom Segura: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O_7O9_nV10", "And in this clip he's pimping Ivermectin as a \"cure\". So Covid did nothing to change his position.", "This guy is such a joke. Holding studies being done to the highest of standards and questioning every bit of data to find any flaw but then takes a video of him eating Ivermectin. His fans (I know some personally) take his advice and contrarian opinion over actual medical professionals. It's a shame spotify and youtube dont take his podcast down for spreading dis-information.", "I think Ivermectin is probably a _potential_ valid treatment for Covid. I think the issue with it, is how people were using it. Nobody, certainly, should be going to Ag stores and buying doses used for horses. Nobody should take it without a doctor's guidance. And with its efficacy being questionable, nobody should think of it as a green light to not get vaccinated because 'oh well, i'll just take ivermectin if i catch covid'. \n\nTime _might_ tell regarding Ivermectin. _Maybe_ in 5 or 10 years a formulation of it will be used for covid patients similar to how people take tamiflu for flu cases. Hard to say. I'm just saying, I'm not dismissing Ivermectin outright, but I think the general population is likely abusing the idea of it, if that makes sense.", "It is not a valid treatment. Just ask the manufacturer.", "If a doctor gave it to him, isn't he follow the guide of an expert?", "Whoa there, nice guy", "what grade did u get in biology 30 years ago again?\n\nhave u read 1 scientific paper on covid?\n\ndid u know that johnson and johnson settled for 26 billion dollars in june for paying doctors to over prescribe opioids? and now people are gobbling up their experimental vax and bending over while their governments fuck them right up the ass in vax camps and force them not to work unless they get vaxxed.\n\npeople who have zero information, who listening to mainstream news (which is in the back pockets of the government and corporations), and who roll over and let their liberties be stripped away more and more are the problem. \n\n\"i never trust anything my government tells me.\" -george carlin", "https://youtu.be/DkTXEexNB2E", "https://youtu.be/DkTXEexNB2E", "'because a small percentage of people die in car accidents it doesnt mean we shouldnt drive in cars.' that small percentage is 80k people iirc. and yes it fucking does. cars are one of the biggest problems we have in the world, notwithstanding the fact that your brother might be dead tomorrow because joe blow killed him with his car. \n\nspeaking of religion, science is the new religion. fauci is the pope. doctors are the priesthood. and the bible is the scientific papers written in Latin and higher math that the public cant read, and in that bible lies some truth and a shitload of monied lies. ever heard of cigarette companies saying that cigarettes dont cause cancer? billions of people across the world dont have a fucking clue about biology, but they join the Science Tribe, and call everyone who doesnt bend over for fucking from scientists backwards. \n\nthis is a fucking joke. watch some george carlin.", "I'm not even going to dignify this crackpot reply with a well thought out and researched rebuttal citing actual sources because I know I would have better luck communicating with a brick wall.", "how about we sue big food corporations for poisioning our food and fattening us up in the first place so that people will be able to recover from a virus that has a 99% recovery rate for healthy people? oh yeah, the whole reason we are in this mess is because big food corporations want people to be sick and die from covid\n\nwhy do i argue with people", "twinkle twinkle little star what u say is what u are", "how about u join the illuminati. im sure theyd welcome u with open arms. or maybe become a politician or lawyer. youd do very well im sure.", "Frequent poster on r/conspiracy yikes lmao. Go back to Facebook with the rest of the crazy uncles, I'm sure they would take a liking to your shitty memes.", "[There are many studies that show that it is a possible treatment.](https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0247163) \n\nKeep in mind that the manufacturer (Merck) would never push this as a treatment since generics can be made of it for a long time. Merck also was co-manufacturing the vaccines while developing their own new anti-viral COVID drug. \n\nIn short, Merck would lose a significant amount of money if Iver was a valid treatment (along with other big pharma companies). Don't attribute any good will when it comes to large companies unless you can prove they will lose money in the long run.", "fallacy of ad hominem\n\nread some philosophy", "Okay you do you. I honestly don’t give a fuck.", "k", "It doesn't help that his interview style jumps around a lot. If he let her gain some traction on one idea before shifting, I bet you could catch on.", "neither do i. i dont believe anything my government tells me. im gonna sit on my ass and work as best i can and im not getting the jab. and theyre gonna drag me into an internment camp - like theyre doing in australia - and then people are going to look around and ask, wait, I thought this is america, not nazi germany. and then theyll remember what happened in 1942 to 200k japanese american citizens.", "You don't believe ANYTHING the government says? Also, assuming you are white, you don't have to worry about being put in an internment camp. Also, you need to get out and get some fresh air.", "Well, sure, but that's just because he's a fucking moron.", "Joe Rogan fucking sucks.", "dick in my ass\n\nedit: and you swallow", "i have\n\na dick\n\nin my dickhole", "p.p.s. joe rogan is a hollywood celebrity, and hes not perfect, and frankly, who knows what conversations go on behind closed doors. so who knows what shit hes not saying or is paid to say. however, the difference between him and mainstream news is that he encourages people to ask questions about a lot of subjects that are always red vs. blue. he also is a psychedelics advocate which should say something about how much he gives a fuck about the establishment.", "p.p.p.s. i have been shelling walnuts that drop from walnut trees in my backyard. so yes, i have been getting some fresh air. PLENTY, thank you very much. MUCH MORE than you, im sure.\n\ncheck mate. game, set, match. im tonto and youre chito. i have a dick in my ass and you dont, and theres nothing u can do about it, b-word.\n\nalso: i have a dick in my dickhole.", "I mean, sure, a licensed doctor is most likely going to administer the drug safely but they aren't researchers working in a lab or running studies on these things. The people that have done the research say that, as expected, Ivermectin is for killing parasites and has no effect on a virus. So the doctors are going against the experts on efficacy.", "Okay, you listed one study. With a fairly small sample size, in one geographic location and with only one significant p-value in the whole study. Oh and it was peer-reviewed by precisely 2 people.\n\nCan you share the other studies you're speaking of?", "This isn’t the burn you think it is lol", "im gonna report u for being homophobia", "heres the real question: why do i need ivermectin for a virus that has a 99% chance recovery rate for healthy young people, as a healthy young person\n\njesus", "thank goodness you were wearing your helmet!", "ah, 4 downvotes. yes! this person is speaking against my ideas! instead of respond, ill just click the downward-pointing button because he's obviously not from My Tribe! the Tribe of Science which is clearly superior to His Tribe (whatever that is.. skeptics or some other wackjob philosopher CULT that brainwashes people into questioning what the media tells them)! Science is cool and ur a fool! period end of discussion downvote. and by the way, no i havent read any of the scientific papers, nor do i have any training in biology! i dont need to, because 30,000 scientists have told me that we need to take the vaccine! 30,000! wow, thats a big number. i hope that will shut that dumbass up.\n\nthe dumbass (me): i want a 30,001st opinion", "Sounds like the majority of people in general", "(sorry if I'm not clear, English is not my native speech)\n\nfirst, not if you purposely searched for the one that matches your misinformation.\n\nthe concept of scientific consensus states that we accept some hypothesis as true if it has been done through the scientific method, peer reviewed and its accepted by the majority of the community of scientists that are specialized in that subject. \n\ncan you find one doctor that states that ivermectin is good against covid? sure. the same way you can find one that states that masks or vaccines don't work. but those are less than 1%. \n\nthe problem with social media (and biased interviewers like JR), is that if for example you make 2 interviews one with a doctor pro vaccine and another one with a doctor against it. the viewers are faced with a misled picture of two positions, 50/50 on the topic. when in reality one doctor represents 99.9% of the scientific community and the other one 0.1%. its not the same. \n\nsecond, just the title on medicine does not make you an expert on every medical subject. that's why specializations exists. you can't compare the amount of research and study a regular doctor spent on virus research, versus an epidemiologist." ]	58	videos	Dr. Rhonda Patrick on Vaccine Misinformation and Long-haul Covid
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qgs251/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qgs251/deleted_by_user/	[ "Lol this was proven to be a promo/ad for the 2010s planet of apes movies apparently after googling... not real", "Was about to say, this is like the start of some movie. Like Texas Chainsaw Massacre.", "The channel is called 'apeswillrise' and the icon is a planet of the apes logo.\n\nOP must have donkey brains to believe this is real." ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/3NK8mqmWE_U	/r/videos/comments/qgsatv/wayne_knight_starring_in_unaired_pilot_by/	[ "Note the reuse of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air kitchen set and the appearance of multiple Seinfeld side character actors.", "I was gonna say the kitchen looked familiar.", "What's this nonesense at the start about doing the exact opposite of Seinfeld and not doing a cash-in off of Seinfeld's success, and then doing a Seinfeld spinoff trying to cash-in off of Seinfeld's success? Is it a joke? The delivery just makes him sound full of himself.", "The guy who made shitloads off a mediocre sitcom sounds full of himself? Colour me surprised lol.", "\"Yesterday's Tomorrow Is Today!\"", "That stood out as odd to me too.", "It's not a Seinfeld spinoff.", "LOL I guess this didn't work because it WASN'T a Seinfeld spinoff. Sorry Larry.", "I'm not a professional writer, so I don't know just how hard it is to write this sort of stuff, and I'm hesitant to be too critical.\n\nIn my opinion, though, it just was too boring and telegraphed. Completely unfunny because every joke and bit was set up in a hamfisted way that made it too easy to guess the punchline ahead of time. On top of that, the 'punchlines' were more of like just 'lines,' cause they packed no punch.", "The guy who made this looks like the kind of person who’d make Borat or something.", "There's definitely a lot wrong with the pilot. As much as I like Wayne Knight, he's not lead material. It was probably a lot less distracting as well in the 90's for the wife to be cute and 15 years his junior.\n\nI think my biggest issues with it were that the pilot had too many subplots, and that everything was cranked up to 11 for some reason. Wayne goes to work, and there's a evacuation. Wayne goes home, and he's running and screaming about the phone. Wayne goes to the convenience store, and the clerk's basically a serial killer. It's just a little too much. Had they cut the milk and exterminator plots, I think it could have been re-written to work a lot better.", "Funny enough, Larry Charles directed Borat (the first film) and Bruno.", "Larry Charles has always been full of himself", "Wayne Knight =/= Newman in this. He's an actor playing a different role/character.", "Yeah, the milk and exterminator were just jammed in there for no real purpose. I mean, she wanted to cook his favorite meal and needed milk... he didn't want to get milk, so why is she so pushy about the milk? Just pointless writing to pad time with the milk adventure. \n\nMy directing and play-writing professors both hammered on \"Kill your babies,\" which just means get rid of the things you want but don't serve the story. \n\nWe already had his family over during \"alone\" time and some weirdness at work; could've just expanded on those better, as you said. \n\nDidn't help that the director had everybody overacting everything.", "It's not clear to me why Wayne Knight couldn't have been a series lead in a better show. He's a good actor.", "Because what he's best at is playing super quirky and eccentric characters. It's like Kramer: yes Michael Richards has great acting chops, but he's best cast as a foil for the main character, and not the main character himself.", "Wait a second, Siobhan Fallon isn't playing the wife in this.", "r/ThatsTheJoke", "was that the wig master I saw?", "Is that the kitchen from Fresh Prince???\n\nedit [IT'S THE KITCHEN FROM FRESH PRINCE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_ZgdPt2dJc)", "I had the same thought when I saw it!", "Big Drew Carey vibes.", "It was like Drew Carey meets the Oblongs.", "I am going to guess it did not work, because it was not funny", "Looks like most sitcoms of the era, I'm sure it would have done fine", "Did Larry Charles write the unfunny bits in Seinfeld as well?", "The individual who created this appears to be the type that would create Borat or anything like.", "This is bad", "Kinda like Seinfeld!", ">and not the main character himself\n\nIndeed, see The Michael Richards Show", "For real", "I didn't even know this show was a thing. Shame that, according to the Wiki, the studio basically wanted him to do Kramer all over again.", "Yeah, Hats Off Entertainment on YouTube has a really good episode on what the show was and why it failed, highly recommended.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/0B_luOqBLAg\n\nHe also has one on Jason Alexander’s failed solo show.", "Now that’s funny", "I thought it looked like that kitchen.", "Uh huh.", "I'm glad it failed. That was annoying", "CMV Larry Charles isn't particularly funny and his entire schtick is \"I'm provocative! I'm talking about nazis and suicide!\".", "I see you are getting downvoted but I agree. Especially at the beginning. I tried to rewatch Seinfeld from season one and gave up, too laborious and unfunny first few episodes. I think I’m going to have to start 1 or 2 seasons in, when they finally perfected the formula.", "I think the mom character is on curb your enthusiasm", "Yep also bizarro world Kramer", "Did Larry Charles write all the early much less funny Seinfeld episodes? Luckily they had a much funnier Larry in charge of the show for most of its run.", "I would start at season 4 because even 3 was hit-and-miss", "> Had they cut the milk and exterminator plots, I think it could have been re-written to work a lot better.\n\nThe point of a pilot is to give producers an idea of the show, think of it like a vertical slice in a video game. There's going to be a whole lot more going on than normal, because it's all they've produced so far and they want to cram it all in there to get that across.", "Your opinion of course. To me that's nothing like seinfeld, they had some incredible story lines that often you didn't see coming. And it was laugh out loud funny.\n\nAlthough it had its low points too, but overall a high quality sitcom.\n\nThis one fell flat.", "basically the more 'over the top' an actor's style is, the less suited they are to a main character, including Will Ferrell.\n\ni've seen some youtube videos where they break down how the best leads are often the most bland and boring with no emotion, such as many characters played by Keanu Reeves, Chris Pratt, or even Ryan Gosling. It allows the audience to better imagine themselves as that person when it's more of an everyman performance.", "The plot to Seinfeld's pilot: Jerry debates whether a girl is interested in him or not.\n\nI get the vertical slice analogy, but less is more. If your \"slice\" is going to be poorly written, you're shooting yourself in the foot. I'd argue that if it were simplified, maybe it would have had a better chance.", ">it just was too boring and telegraphed. Completely unfunny because every joke and bit was set up in a hamfisted way that made it too easy to guess the punchline ahead of time\n\nEvery single kids sitcom on Nick\n\nI wish kids today had the gift of the writers and direction of \"The Adventures of Pete and Pete\"", "Oh man, now that was a bizarre and wonderful show! Still have Hey Sandy in my playlist. \n\nThis show looks like it was made more for the adult crowd, though, as opposed to for kids. But you're right that it's looks like their audience is adults with childlike minds." ]	50	videos	Wayne Knight starring in unaired pilot by Seinfeld writer Larry Charles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUKs7k3P3_U&ab_channel=555fra000	/r/videos/comments/qgtnko/one_guitar_9_hands/	[ "Original - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9NF2edxy-M", "You linked some stolen, 360p shitty video with 400 views when you could've linked [the official Walk off the Earth version](https://youtu.be/d9NF2edxy-M) in 720p with almost 200 million views.", "The sea captain on the right always mesmerises me", "sorry...I didn't notice" ]	4	videos	one guitar, 9 hands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYYLDC5HCpk	/r/videos/comments/qgtpd4/how_not_to_play_the_piano/	[ "Got me in the first 9/10, not gonna lie", "Getting distinct Michael Angelo/Nitro vibes.", "As it zoomed out and I saw the blurry bit, I thought he had his dick out.", "After the first 10 seconds, I was expecting a sudoku...", "Penissimo!", "[Amadeus did it first!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp0mOKH0IBY)", "Thought it was going to zoom out and they were in the middle of a student library getting dirty looks from everyone because they're trying to study.", "I thought he was getting a bj from an upside down person.\n\n.... /r/supineblowjobs" ]	8	videos	How not to play the piano
https://youtube.com/watch?v=w0FEFWNRJRQ&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/qgu3bc/good_will_hunting_i_will_end_you_hd_matt_damon/	[ "This was my favorite Robin Williams role.", "For a guy who made his living making people laugh he could really dig deep for the serious shit. \n\nStroke of genius whoever cast him in that role...", "Good clip. My psychologist chokes me too!", "Luckyyyyy", "Great movie. It was wicked smaht.", "Now that i'm somewhat older, I like the follow up scene more.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/oRG2jlQWCsY", "This movie, this scene specifically, blows my mind. At 18/19 when I first watched this in many ways I was Will - knew not a fucking thing about anything and yet was somehow the smartest motherfucker that walked the earth. Judging and disrespecting those around me for their inadequacies and \"failures\", disregarding everything my parents and those with real life experience tried to teach me. I was bound and determined to prove everyone - all those losers - wrong, I thought I knew what \"success\" looked like...\n\n\nNow, at \"Sean's\" age this scene has entirely new meaning. Back then I didn't see Will getting exposed, his shallowness and ignorance coming to light. I thought I saw an old, grumpy, out of touch failure that was jealous of Will and his youth and \"intelligence\". Now I see Sean gently trying to say \"listen you dumb fuck, you don't a goddamn thing about anything!\" And still, after that famous monologue where Sean tells Will exactly that - \"Michelangelo? You know a lot about him. Life’s work, political aspirations. Him and the pope. Sexual orientation. The whole works, right? I bet you can’t tell me what it smells like in the Sistine Chapel. You never actually stood there and looked up at that beautiful ceiling.\" I STILL didn't get it.\n\n\nWell I get it now, I fucking get it, all of it. I'm embarrassed I didn't see it, embarrassed about how I acted and treated those around me. And I wouldn't trade places with young me for any price, I couldn't put a dollar value on all of the experiences - the joy, the love, the pain.\n\n\nFuck you OP for making me cry at work.", "Most 18/19 year olds think they know what is going on while having no fucking clue how the world works; most 40 year olds don't know what the fuck is going on while having a very firm grasp on how the world works.", "“Youth is wasted on the young”- Shaw", "I miss Robin so much. In a way, he was my surrogate dad. Especially this movie...this movie is one of my favorite two movies.", "How do ya like them apples?!", "This movie is full of great scenes. I think it's a toss up between the \"It's not your fault\" and this one for best.", "I watched the OPs clip and immediately went to yours, before seeing your reply.\n\nAgree, 100%.", "Robin was brilliant. I miss him. RIP", "What’s your other one?", "Man I love this movie.", "Welp, thanks for the tears! I still haven't processed Robin W's death really.", "> This movie is full of great scenes\n\nawesome movie is awesome movie", "It's not your fault.", "This was after Dead Poet's Society, so it was a pretty easy call, frankly. He's always had that kind of range as an actor.", "His death still is the hardest celebrity death I've ever had to deal with.\n\nReally hit hard when he left.", "Twilight", "\"How doth ye admire yon apples?\" --The Last Duel", "Can we have Robin back? I miss him so much. So many assholes going on in their stupid insipid lives, and we have to be without Robin. The world lost a lot of its light that day, certainly darker for me.", "I literally thought of the Sistine Chapel line when I went to see it for myself. It is absolutely different seeing it in person. What shocked me most was the scale of it. No book or picture online did it justice.", "The whole idea of wisdom can only be gained through experience. And wisdom and intelligence are not the same.", "The key to this that you know the difference now and you are all the better for it. Welcome to growing up, now get to that Chapel.", "Asshole Will Hunting.", "Well it's a bit of a cheat, really: all of the Lord of The Rings movies, but specifically The Return of The King.", "Mine was Bicentennial Man. I don't know too many other people who love it, but I loved every minute of it.", "And to think, this movie wouldn’t have happened with Matt Damon, Robin Williams, and Ben Affleck without Harvey Weinstein at Miramax.", "The Fisher King was not your standard Robin role either", "That's why WIS and INT are different stat blocks in D&D", "The interesting thing is, as you get older you get glimpses of how wrong your younger self sometimes was. You think at 30 your 20 year old self was a fool. At 40 your think your 30 year old self was unambitious. I'm in my 50s now and must reluctantly admit that when I'm 70, I'll probably look back on myself as I am today and still see what I should have done better.", "I miss Robin Williams", "Same. I have 4 children, 3 grown, all smarter than me. If I can only add to their capabilities a little bit by imparting some of my life experience, I'll consider it a victory.", "It's weird, as an adult I can't help but start tearing up every time I watch this scene.", "41 year old here. This is 100% true.", "I watched it not long after Robin Williams died. I was in bits. Not watched it since. Him, Damon and Affleck are all pretty much perfect.", "Robin's eyes. Such deep sadness. RIP you brilliant man.", "Meanwhile, still waiting on “Good Will Hunting 2: Hunting Season”", "\"Why don't blind people go skydiving? It scares the dogs.\" \n\nGreat movie.", "My absolute favorite movie!", "INT is knowing tomatoes are fruits. WIS is knowing not to put one in a fruit salad.", "If you miss Robin check this out, this actor portrays him very well in this test footage he made for his acting reel. https://youtu.be/Zveh4tV3NCU\n\nThis appears to be a re-upload. It seems the actor (Jamie Costa) took the video off his official page. The original video had over 1 million views.", "Robin Williams has his hand on Matt Damon's throat and the book \"I'm Okay, You're Okay\" is visible in the corner of the shot.", "Thanks for the clarification. Hey everyone, Mark says \"good movie are good\"", "nothing else comes close, but I really like Fisher King.", "In a way, Edward was his surrogate vampire crush.", "Stealing this.", "I've been watching these scenes on YouTube for the past few weeks. I think this really may be one of the best acted films of all time. Robin Williams is incredible and disappears into his character. Matt Damon is great and even Ben Affleck has a fantastic scene at the end of the movie. The music by Elliot Smith fits perfectly. It's just an amazing movie. And who could forget that bar scene where Will shows up the cocky Harvard student. Amazing.", "Hook is such a good roll too.", "One Hour Photo comes to mind", "It's fine, he stole it too", "Dead Poets Society \n\nI just really enjoy the way he plays the role and shows the struggle of this optimistic teacher dealing with unintended consequences of inspiring these students.", "Sometimes an out of work insurance salesman knows more than you'd realize...", "awww. need a hug?", "It's way better than your average movie full of scenes.", "The way Robin looks here makes me think Bradley Cooper could play him in a biopic.", "Charisma is being able to sell a tomto-based fruit salad?", "shout out to Manufacturing Consent reference - the best book for understanding modern society that exists", "As a non-American, you're incorrect.", "I fucking love salsa", "Just do it for the money", "Who's your psychologist? Mine is Dr. Mistress Pamala. I don't think I've had an unexpected deductible or additional charge from her in the last decade of service.", "lol what is funny is how incredibly unprofessional that scene would be - he would lose his license.\n\nMy wife is a therapist, and if someone asked about/insulted me, she would just ask why it was important to them. Or, just make fun of me a bit to them.", "Don't worry, it wasn't just you. Who the fuck understands all that at 19?", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zveh4tV3NCU\n\nOr this guy", "Was exposed to that book my freshman year of college and it completely changed my entire worldview outlook." ]	73	videos	Good Will Hunting \| 'I Will End You' (HD) - Matt Damon, Robin Williams \|...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53cpU7VcThI	/r/videos/comments/qgutyv/rachel_maksy_edited_herself_into_pride_prejudice/	[ "Maksy is amazing, she is a brilliant lass", "Who?", "I have no idea but if I'd used the original title then people would have thought it was me.", "https://i.imgur.com/QDYNC3m.gif", "The editing was really good, her jokes weren't really that funny or creative. Feels like a wasted premise.", "I liked the delivery but could have used less of the outtakes. Kind of ruins the tempo.\n\nstill, just a girl being silly so bravo", "Agreed. Good editing, interesting premise, horrible execution." ]	7	videos	Rachel Maksy edited herself into Pride & Prejudice (2005)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Dw_Gkmv7kvY&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/qgvegw/be_the_reason_someone_believes_in_the_goodness_of/	[ "You don't want the meat to be too dry.", "he's fattening his dinner.", "/r/titlegore" ]	3	videos	Be The Reason Someone Believes In The Goodness of People
https://youtu.be/BwPL0Md_QFQ	/r/videos/comments/qgw106/lightyear_teaser_trailer/	[ "Give me Home Improvement or give me death. Tim the rat needs more coke money.", "Looks good other than the racism.", "This looks awesome. Killer visuals. Love what they did with Starman for the trailer.", "Oh man, my kid is gonna love this.", "Sad movie at the end.. unless they let him return back..", "bummed that Tim Allen isn't reprising his voicework but Chris Evans is basically Captain America so I'm good.", "I’m gonna cum", "This is a fiction within a fiction, correct? It’s an action movie universe that exists in Andy’s world from Toy Story? Or is he a real astronaut from the world of Toy Story?", "What a sad, strange little man", "Its a movie about the fictional astronaut who inspired the toy that we know from Toy Story. \n\nFrom the wiki: \"This is not a story about the Toy Story action figure or the cartoon Buzz Lightyear of Star Command, but the origin of the in-universe astronaut who inspired the cartoon and toys.\"", "What racism. The obvious pandering by having a black female co-star?", "So Star Command already exists in the Toy Story world? Why don't we see evidence of higher technology in Andy's suburb? Does that mean Zerg is real too? Does that mean Buy 'n Large subcontracts out to Star Command - seeing as they end up building the Axiom starship? (the Wall-e and toy story universe are the same thanks to the pizza planet truck, right?)\n\nI HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS", "I was just fucking around bro chill with all that", "Wait, it's canon that all the toy story movies took place in a world with FTL travel? What? Was this already known?\n\nEdit: oh wait, I misunderstood the layers of 'fictional' here. So he's from a sci-fi franchise in the toy story universe. That makes much more sense", "Right... My kid... Lil Timmy... Not me, I'm an adult! I think they believed us bro!", "Language!!\n\n..also, Yes!", "How is a black woman existing in a movie pandering? You fragile fucking child.", "Oh, I'm gonna love it, too. My son just recently got big into TS and he loves space stuff like SW. Just thinking about enjoying this with him, is all!", "Holy cry baby, calm down no one gives a fuck about you.", "Says the dude crying because he, gasp, saw an animated black woman. The horror!", "I know, I'm just being a smart ass. Took so long for them to make this movie, we are all old AF now. Lol.", "Now this is reddit.\n\nGrabs popcorn 🍿", "Your argument style is peak Reddit and wholly ineffective. I wonder how many other things you’re terrible at in life.", "It is now.", "Meh Disney is more thin white duke than ziggy stardust but at least the context kind of matches.", "I'm 56 and got some chills running down my spine watching that trailer :).", "My 5 y/o could not have picked a better time to start liking astronauts lol. This looks great!", "It’s supposed to be about the Astronaut that inspired the toys, so I guess it makes sense the voice would be different.", "So the guy who inspired the toy is also seemingly from the future? \n\nHow did the kid in Toy Story, who by all evidence grew up in contemporary times, have a toy based on a real person, a sci-fi spaceman from the future?\n\nOr is this film a fictional character that existed in the Toy Story universe BEFORE the events of Toy Story 1, within the universe is this a remake of some earlier film or what? Since Toy Story and this are CGI does that mean it's \"live action\" in the Toy Story universe?\n\nHah, hah... I hope someone got fired for this blunder. /s", "Looks awesome, but is it just me or does it not look like a pixar film? something feels off", "Both sides are peak Reddit lmao. Please keep fighting about meaningless stuff.", "Another movie concept that shouldnt have been conceived", "I got that reference!", "Weird. Why not just have it be a Buzz Lightyear movie set in the Toy Story universe. They could even have a little Toy Story short intro well they're all trying to get together at a drive-in to see the movie, or something like that.", "Man, I need to drink my coffee. I read your comment and somehow missed the /s and was mentally preparing a snarky comment when I stopped and realized that I was about to try and argue with someone about chilling out about a fictional movie.\n\nHope you have a good day!", "In universe I’m guessing this movie is more like a Star Trek live action film, which was eventually rebooted years later into “Buzz Lightyear the animated series”", "Feel free to still use your snarky comment, lol.", "Who's got odds on Emperor Zurg getting teased in a post credits scene?", "Does he have your pity?", "I was hoping for a post credits scene of child Andy playing in his room and the whole movie was just his imagination. Plus as others said if this is an origin story of the real person that inspired the toys why is everything in toy story so obviously not-advanced.", "Question: Does Thin White Duke Bowie suck?\n\nAnswer: No.", "Why not?", "Disappointed it's not Tim Allen voicing him but i guess he's a bit too old now. The original was over 20 years ago! Man, time flies.", "There are layers to this. The audio recordings on toys are always a little different than the actual cartoon characters even if they're a direct recording like when they actually push his buttons in Toy Story.", "Well he is his father, I'm sure he'll pop up eventually", "Sorry, can't. I'm officially awake and chipper. The world is great, everyone has the best intentions and wants to be happy and no one gets upset about mundane things like in universe Canon of fictional stories.", "Genuinely looks like shit.", "Oh man that looks cool", "Apparantly plastic toys are recyclable.", "My kids are going to flip, toy story obsessed", "Looks better than I expected.", "I don’t think it’s made for you bud lol. News flash, every bit of content(especially Disney) is not made for you", "There was a brief moment where Pixar looked like they might break off from Disney and we would get some animated movies aimed 100% at adults. This trailer gives us glimpses of what could have been. \n \nStill, this looks awesome. My ticket's sold.", "I'm 100% okay with how this looks.", "Ha! So this year my 4 year old.wants to be Nemo for Halloween, and my wife and I thought, \" oh that's perfect we can go pick up a Nemo costume real easy\"...\n\nYa, we forgot that that movie is also almost 20 years old. She was eventually able to find a costume for him but 95% of the nemo costumes are the 20 year old girl \"sexy nemo\" costumes..how am I this old?", "> So he's from a sci-fi franchise in the toy story universe.\n\nGuess that makes sense as to why his voice will be different. \n\nOn toys the voice usually is more wonky than the movie actors.", "uh he was in the trailer.... purple glowing box 🤷‍♂️", "NOPE", "This is the movie that proves they’ve run out of ideas. It means the concept of Buzz in the future somehow goes back in time to the 90s to inspire Andy’s toy. \n\nBest guess, at the end of the movie is going to be some mess where the image of Buzz goes back in time to inspire the creator of the Buzz toy and somehow that inspires a little boy in the future to grow up to be Buzz Lightyear, as he would be known, and that little boy turns out to be Andy’s descendant.", "That's exactly what I was thinking.", "No, not like that. Buzz is a fictional character from a movie or a book in Andy's world.\n\nThis new Lightyear movie Pixar is making would be like a movie that Andy would go watch to learn the fictional story about his toy.", "That is what they are doing, except they are making us be Andy, as if we were watching a movie about the toy", "From that wiki, it sounds like he’s a real life astronaut that inspired the toys, so FTL travel exists.", "Basically when watching this movie, we pretend that we are Andy watching a movie about the toy.", "They are going to mint billions for years to come from sales of toys.", "I mean the shot around the sun to time travel is basically the same exact plot Star Trek: The Voyage Home. Which was the most fun one. And they had the restraint to not do one of these stupid \"Sulu meets his great grandfather as a kid\" type scenes.", "…turns out to be Andy.", "New cgi techniques?", "Seriously. My son is gonna lose it when I pick him up from school.", "You put Starman in a space movie trailer and I’m in.", "Guys. They’re cartoons.", "I'm gonna need a time stamp, cause I still don't see it. Unless you mean the doors opening at the end?", "Quick keep antagonizing them. metaphorically pushes them", "Toy Story universe has an in-universe movie (this) that inspires an in-universe cartoon show that inspires toys based on the cartoon. Toy buzz is too stonky and short to be purely and directly based on this in-universe \"actor.\" So the movie is acted by, and the cartoon is voiced by. (and possibly toys are voiced by,) entirely different people.", "I guarantee Tim Allen will be in the movie.", "It's the heavy use of a [Geonosian Core ship](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Core_ship) in the background that is throwing you off.", "To infinity and.....assemble?", "Buzz Lightyear is* Tim Allen. I don't get replacing him.", "TIL this was a thing", "okay but like this actually looks amazing...also super meta", "The humans in recent Pixar films have been more \"disnyfied\" with the rounded features. It's like characters look like they're 3D Disney characters. I've noticed this trend since Inside Out, but it's been more present in recent stuff they've been putting out.", "Oh, it makes sense. It's great that Pixar is progressing and improving the lore.", "I'm just picturing some bad parent buying their 4 year old a \"Sexy Nemo\" costume thinking \"they want to be Nemo and this is all I could find\", so they get to be Nemo.", "I'm bouta blow yo mind: https://youtu.be/RgpJPVoDZf8", "I thought it was basically the cartoons came out, then the toys, and then this will be essentially a biopic way after the fact.", "Hey! Wait for me!", "Pretty sure in his head, my 5 year old son built the same exact space ship from 7 pieces of lego.", "lol yeah. But Pixar totally is the type of company that thinks about this stuff. \n\n\nIt honestly wouldn't surprise me if they snuck in some in movie joke about a cartoon show being made about him voiced by Tim Allen.", "Love how they edited Starman. Really cannot get past Chris Evans doing the voice instead of Tim Allen. I'd imagine he's too old to play a \"young\" Buzz Lightyear, but they could have gotten a better soundalike?", "Was that CGI Keith David?", "They're making toys \"real\" instead of real things into toys", "We need to go deeper. There needs to be an action movie in Lightyear that inspires Buzz to become an astronaut, and then we need an entire Pixar movie of that movie.", "Its a story within a story. I think this movie will be meh, but having stories and myths within a narrative is really common. Buzz isn't real, even in the context of this movie. Imagine if Andy went to the movies and watched this buzz lightyear movie.\n\nExample - Legend of Korra has \"Nuktuk\", A fictional movie series within the show. This is like if Nuktuk was spun into its own actual movie. Buzz Lightyear was a cartoon within Toy Story, and now its getting its own movie.", "Slingshot-maneuver around the sun does not make sense, though. Or does it outside our solar systems frame of reference? But iirc you need a planet or moon to use gravity assist and boost your speed. \n\nOh, well. Looks nice though. I love SciFi and am curious about what Pixar does here, since I already really liked Wall-E. :-)", "America's Ass-tronaut", "No, it's the real-life person in the Toy Story universe that inspired the cartoon and toy. \n\nEh, I've just gone cross-eyed.", ">\"This is not a story about the Toy Story action figure or the cartoon Buzz Lightyear of Star Command, but the origin of the in-universe astronaut who inspired the cartoon and toys.\"\n\nThe phrase \"in-universe astronaut\" suggests a real astronaut right? This is where all the confusion comes from.", "As Tim Allen", "Was waiting to hear Tim throughout the trailer and couldn't tell it wasn't him based on the one word. This comment was extremely disappointing to read.", "Good. It looks like shit bud.", "> My son just recently got big into TS and he loves space stuff like SW\n\nShit this couldn't come at a better time for him", "This is really dumb and anecdotal, but I'm balling like a baby watching this trailer. My youngest child was quite young (around 2) when I took him to his first movie, Toy Story 3, in theaters. He was in awe of the big screen. Now he's 12, and all I can think about is his waning interest in kids' movies, and how I won't get to see his little face light up anymore. I know there will be more moments with him, I'm just mourning the passing of his youth. \n\nHopefully he'll go see this with me.", "This is the movie based on the movie that they watched in the movie when you weren't watching the movie.", "Disney going down that course is actually a bit wild, can't wait to see what 'in universe' movie looks like for starwars or marvel...", "I think there's a lot of studios that are doing animation aimed at adults and Pixar have just been killing it with the \"it's for kids but adults can enjoy this too\" genre so I'm really fine they're sticking with it.", "we already know there are other buzz lightyear media(videogames) so a movie wouldn't be crazy. \n\n\nIt's in-lore entertainment, not something that is happening in toy story's future.", "The music was so good I missed the video.", "Ohoho yeah, ok, I would abandon my stupid little cowboy toy for this guy too. Sorry, Woody.", "For fuck sake Disney, let Pixar make new IP instead of leaching old content for nostalgia.", "There are 3 kinds of Pixar fans:\n\n\"Finally! A Buzz Lightyear movie!\"\n\n\"We already got a Buzz Lightyear movie! Where's Mira, Booster and XR?\"\n\n\"Cool. Where's Woody?\"", "Andy got into film studies and went on to reboot the Buzz Lightyear franchise. Its still Andy's imagination but with a bigger budget.", "One of the antagonists should be called The Claw", "And it's all in Andy's mind, but now he's a deranged overweight 20 something living in his mom's basement.", "Okay but for real, Disney seems like they're just sweeping Buzz Lightyear of Star Command under the rug and pretending it doesn't exist.", "Im mad its not Tim Allen, but looks cool", "We have to go deeper", "Welcome to the multiverse. The Watcher is......well, you know.", "It might be because this feels like it's building up to a joke, but it's not. Ever since the YouTube generation started growing Disney is making aims to do everything: whether it's a parody of their own stuff or an in-universe movie about one of their beloved IP. This town ain't big enough for the fan films/comedy sketches and Disney.", "Seriously. I feel bad Tim Allen always plays second fiddle to Tom Hanks (I mean yea I know it's Tom Hanks but still). Now his famous gets his own movie and he doesn't play the role.", "You two hours later after watching the movie \"OH Shoot, I forgot to pick up my son!!!\"", "Yeah, that's throwing me off too", "Yeah I just felt like, you cheating bastards, you knew if you put this song you'd win me for my Bowie love.", "So if Toy Buzz believed he was the real Buzz Lightyear did he have this guys memories?", "Oh no, I've gone crosseyed", "In-universe fictional astronaut character, right?", "I wish they'd leave toy story alone and make some goddamn originals but. this actually looks good.", "Tim the toolman Taylor", "There was a boardroom discussion in the last month between this and Rocket Man. Honestly, put them both on a wall and throw a dart. I’m in.", "It'll be one of those movies my nephew puts on repeat, I'm down!", "I don't love everything about the concept.\n\nBut damn that's some nice execution.", "I dunno why, but watching the trailer brought a tear to my eyes... Maybe I'm getting nostalgic, or maybe it's getting to see the continuation of something I truly enjoyed in my younger days, but what a peculiar feeling getting teary eyed over a trailer of a CGI animated movie that was spawned from the first CGI animated movie. That's kinda meta...", "So akin to like the G.I. Joe movies to us?", "The MCU are basically animated movies for adults - though \"adult\" is such a vague term anyway, 20 year olds aren't generally going to enjoy the same things 60 year olds enjoy.", "\"Mr. Lightyear, here's the actor we've hired to voice you in the promotional merchandise.\"", "His real name is actually Edwin Lightyear.", "Yeah, like, is James T. Kirk an in-universe astronaut?", "1:18", "I could see it being the other way around, too, like this is the equivalent of the Michael Bay Transformers* film: a big, high-budget, \"live action\" version of an old cartoon franchise that was made to sell toys.", "You left out \"We established he's just a toy so there is no fucking back story, fuck off Disney.\"", "This is a great example of what companies can do with their IP without just infinitely rebooting. There are so many ways we can be more creative, even if it feels like we've done everything already", "So meta", "“Tim Allen? Really?”\n\n“Well he was available.”", "In a universe with talking Toys, you find FTL unbelievable? But yeah, I’m wrecking my brain over this whole multilayered universe that’s going on here", "If I see one more trailer with a slowly sung pop song I will end it I swear. Bonus death if they show a little quip right at the end after the title.", "It's more like Ghostbusters. \n\nIt's a film franchise that inspired a cartoon and toy line. \n\nThis is the film that will inspire the cartoon Buzz Lightyear of Star Command and the Buzz Lightyear toy line.", "The movie is going to end with Buzz’s ship damaged and he’s stranded on a barren mattress-y planet with a cowboy and a mishmash of other creatures as inhabitants. Then we find out all the cool shit that’s been happening was Toy Buzz’s mental interpretation of what’s been going on around him, explaining why he’s so convinced that he’s an actual space ranger in TS1 😂", "I thought it was already established that the film that inspired the toys was _Buzz Lightyear of Star Command_.", ">Its a movie about the fictional astronaut who inspired the toy that we know from Toy Story.\n\nSo it's a non-fictional portrayal of a fictional astronaut that inspired a non-fictional toy that we know from a fictional movie called Toy Story?", "He's not too old, they just won't cast him for... reasons.", "It's like Pixar: Inception.", "...what?", "Ok yeah I like this and the Star Wars comparison. Definitely understand the levels of this now", "_Star Citizen_ looks a little different than I remember.", "Pretty sure that's him at 1:17, the bots have his Z on them and he is quite purple.", "What’s your opinion on Sesame Street?", "The Buzz Lightyear you recognize as a \"toy\" is actually an interstellar traveler from a world with FTL and forced to follow a Prime Directive of appearing lifeless to any intelligent life. After crash landing he experienced severe psychosis and brought the other toys to life in his mind as a coping mechanism for his loneliness.", "David Bowie's \"Starman\" and \" Space Oddity\" have become for movies set in Outer Space what \"Fortunate Sun\" and \"Spirit in the Sky\" are for movies set during the Vietnam War.", "I'm me?", "_Buzz Lightyear of Star Command_ is technically in-universe canon as much as Jessie and Stinky Pete are.", "It's about to break everyone's heart here, but Andy would be in his early 30s now...", "movie made in a meeting room.", "Disney's just gonna milk every prominent character in their franchise huh? Never mind making original stories. What a joke. I hope this bombs.", "Tim \"the toyman\" Taylor", "I'm curious, what studios are doing animation for adults?\n\nI don't doubt you, by the way. I know there's plenty of animation for adults out there. I just can't name a particular studio that's focused on it off the top of my head. Unless you're counting Anime studios (which is entirely fair).", "The \"this is the in-universe film that Andy would have seen which inspired the toys\" doesn't hold up as it was already established in-universe to be _Buzz Lightyear of Star Command_, which thematically makes sense for a kid in the 90s to have latched onto. It would have basically been like the _G.I. Joe_ and _Transformers_ cartoons.\n\nDon't get me wrong, it looks interesting, but as someone who is the same age as Andy, this would not have caught my attention as a kid. As an adult, I think it looks neat to have a film set in the _Star Citizen_ universe.", "r/angryupvote", "I think Toy Buzz was based on the cartoon that was a spin-off/reboot of this movie. So he would have the mind of the cartoon character rather than this character. It would be funny if in a hypothetical Toy Story 5, there was a Buzz Lightyear toy based specifically on this movie's character, rather than the cartoon of the movie.", "I think he's gonna be in the box", "well that looks amazing. Do want.", "I feel like IF Disney ever did an adult-focused animation, they'd break off a separate studio rather than have adult content intermingle with Pixar and blemish the VERY child-friendly image there", "We have to go deeper...", "Like “Luca” and “Onward” and “Soul” and “Turning Red”?", "Visually looks like it would take place in the same universe WALL-E takes place. I hope there is some crossover, like Lightyear is on a mission to figure out Earth's future before the events of WALL-E", "A Black Series collectors edition Buzz Lightyear voiced by Chris Evans character would be tight.", "This character is young. Tim Allen is pushing 70 years old. This isn’t supposed to be the BL toy, it’s a different character.", "Could it be more like Transformers where the old cartoon \"Buzz Lightyear of Star Command\" is rebooted into a live action movie that appeals to an older Andy?", "I don't know, this doesn't seem like the kind of movie to have a coke smuggling snitch in it.", "He should be voicing he titular role. Why do they have Chris Evans doing it?", "Damn, they should have done this years ago. Such a great idea.", "They replaced Tim Allen?! No wonder the trailer has almost no dialogue.", "wait this actually looks good lol", "Disney's making their own fanfic.", "Yeah, Toy Story takes place in our times so for them to act like there's now space travel, sci-fi leveled technologies, and even alien life.... It definitely seems more like fiction that takes place in Toy Story. For them to say otherwise, it's either just sloppy marketing or pure incompetence.", ">Slingshot-maneuver around the sun does not make sense\n\nWhy not? All you need is a gravity well and a star is the biggest gravity well in a solar system.", "IP cash grab: the movie. Part 18", "Tim Allen as a person fucking sucks so I'm into it.", "holy, i never knew i need this, thanks pixar", "Pixar was it's own thing back in early 2000s, before Disney bought it.", "This is your headcanon. This is not the reason why they didn't cast Tim Allen.", "Yeah, Tim Allen is kinda' an asshole. He compared the way others were disgusted by his support for Trump to being in Nazi Germany. At the very least he had enough decency to denounce the January insurrection.", "Yo, imagine the hype for a Woody the cowboy movie", "Maybe he wants to be the pirate from League of Extraordinary Gentleman", "he isn't full on anti-vax magatard but he did sell out his drug buddies lmao", ">I feel like IF Disney ever did an adult-focused animation, they'd break off a separate studio\n\nAgree with your point but they wouldn't even need to, when they bought Fox they also got 20th Century Animation so they could release under that label already.", "Uhm well to be clear, I didn't mean studios dedicated* to animation to adults because tbh I don't know if there is one but studios that definitely focus on adult animation, off the top of my head;\n\n - Titmouse inc. (who did Metalocalypse and the upcoming Critical Role show)\n - Floyd County Productions (Who do Archer) EDIT: I double checked and Floyd County has ONLY done adult animation or episodes of adult shows that were exceptionally animated (like a couple of Legion episodes)\n - ShadowMachine (who did some Robot Chicken and all of Bojack Horseman)\n - Williams Street Productions (who do Rick and Morty)\n\nBut almost all of these also did gigs on more kids oriented show too, gotta pay the bills and the adult animation market is still niche when compared to the juggernauts that are Nickelodeon/Cartoon network etc...", "Totally forgot about that but yea", "[How do you explain Tim Allen? ](https://youtu.be/RBmoQSHfO2U)", "It's just going to be an hour and a half of him in a box in a toy store waiting to be bought.", "I want a proper western for Woody as well.\n\nWhat are we thinking? Something modern take like No Country for Old Men, Revenant, or...Bone Tomahawk?\n\nThings are dark but then he comes out of the other side refusing to carry a gun similar to Sheriff Taylor in The Andy Griffith Show.", "The animators are Clause-trophobic?", "\\Slingshots around the Sun\\\n\nWhat is he trying to do, save some humpback whales?", "He’s a different character entirely so it makes sense. Buzz as a toy is going to have a sillier comedic edge than a more serious drama about an actual human and the voice change reflects that.", "Damn I wish this had Tim Allen's voice. Feel like they've just thrown Chris Evans in there, his voice isn't that distinguishable from many others, whereas Allen has something like a real... _SPACE RANGER_", "It’s a documentary about true events", "All you're picturing is a 4 year old in a sexy Nemo costume? FBI, open up", "Such a weird concept to me, but it looks pretty good. I wonder how close to realistic this is supposed to be in their world? The tech is far more advanced than what we have. Nice DOOM reference near the end too", "Tim Allen is a raging racist and Trumper so I'm kinda glad he's not involved.", "Something about the animation quality in this trailer is just… special\n\nI’m also getting slight star wars vibes from some of the landscapes and colour palettes, which is very exciting", "This looks awesome.\n\nNow I just want Pixar to do sci fi. Let them make a clone wars movie. Would be dope.", "Google is free", "From Pete Docter* (Chief Creative Officer at Pixar):\n\nAt first glance, you might think, 'this is a Toy Story film.' Well, not so fast! See, back when we created the first Toy Story, we designed Buzz Lightyear with the idea that he was a toy based on some really cool character from an epic blockbuster film. Well, all these years later we decided it's time to make that film.\n\nedit: here's the source too https://www.vulture.com/2020/12/chris-evans-to-voice-buzz-lightyear-in-new-pixar-prequel.html", "Yea, its as if Andy went to the movies to watch the source material movie for his toy. \n\nWe'd be watching that movie.", "Tim Allen played the Buzz Lightyear TOY. This is the real man that the toy was based on.", "No, its as if Andy goes to the movie theaters to watch the movie that led to the toy being popularized. \n\nIts like if you went to see Star Wars in theaters and then bought a Darth Vader toy.", "Racist reasons lol.", "Nope, said I was picturing the bad parent. Nice try though. I only go for Sexy Nemos that are 5 years old and up.", "I mean he still supported Trump. I don't think all conservatives are awful people, but if you support Trump (especially after he had been in office) that says a lot about your character in my opinion.", "Didn't Cars 2 prove that?", "It's crazy that if you take away the connection to toy story, the concept is not weird at all. Like if this wasn't Pixar and buzz, and it was dreamworks making this with a character named \"Alex\", oit would be perfectly normal.\n\nIt's basically an excuse to tell a sci fi story with an insanely marketable and popular character.", "Titmouse has made all the best animated shows. I'd like to add Star Trek: Lower Decks because it's a great show all around.", "this is some real genz music, absolutely terrible.", "> I know there's plenty of animation for adults out there\n\nAre you talking about movies or TV? I can think of many TV-MA animated shows, like Castlevania and Invincible, but not movies.", "He's trying to defeat the terrible, life-giving sun! Defeat it with SCIENCE!", "Wow, this trailer and possibly the movie are taking themselves way more seriously than I would have ever thought possible. That's not an insult or anything, just very surprising", "Sentence one: Tim Allen (original voice of BL) played Tim the Toolman Taylor on Home Improvement.\n\nSentence two: Tim Allen was arrested for possession of cocaine in the 70s and never lived it down. He snitched on other dealers to bring down his sentence.\n\nOP's comment was a bit of a Pavement song, wasn't it?", "I suppose the ending will show the action figure being created for the first time which would be pretty cool imo", "looks sort of sweet. no lie", "Finally a animated movie i feel like watching.", "Mostly TV to be honest. Can't think of too many movies either. The first thing that comes to mind is Sausage Party...", "Don't forget Coco", "Wait... Toy Story 1 takes place in the 90's. Why does nothing look like it did in the movie Rocketman?", "Before watching the clip: \"What kind of dumb money grab is this going to be.\" \n\nAfter watching the clip: \"Wow what a great idea cant wait to watch!\"", "Quite an inctedible show although has changed in recent years to placate to BS lies like CRT and appropriate/normalize Gender dysphoria and other mental disorders.\n\nWatching muppet babies right now with my kids.", "Those look like Buzz's legs under purple lighting to me, but good catch on the Z bots. That's gotta be Zurg's ship. \n\nIn which case, fingers crossed that the inevitable sequel tease is Mira Nova then!", "Its actually akin to the Buzz Lightyear Animated Series universe. Which was a great show btw.", "I'm sad they're calling it a \"teaser\". unless there's some twists that makes the movie completely different than this, I don't see why they need another trailer. All I could think about was how awesome it was to see a trailer where nothing is spoiled.", "Kind of weird w/ all these giga rich ppl going for space that we get a movie like this.", "IIRC you would only gain speed when the object is moving - so you can add that inertia of the gravity well to your escape vector. But the sun is not moving. Not related to our solar system. You would change direction quickly and spectacularily - but not gain speed. \n\nOkay. Now I looked it up on wikipedia: \n>In orbital mechanics and aerospace engineering, a gravitational slingshot, gravity assist maneuver, or swing-by is the use of the relative movement (e.g. orbit around the Sun) and gravity of a planet or other astronomical object to alter the path and speed of a spacecraft, typically to save propellant and reduce expense.\n\n>Gravity assistance can be used to accelerate a spacecraft, that is, to increase or decrease its speed or redirect its path. The \"assist\" is provided by the motion of the gravitating body as it pulls on the spacecraft.[1] The gravity assist maneuver was first used in 1959 when the Soviet probe Luna 3 photographed the far side of Earth's Moon and it was used by interplanetary probes from Mariner 10 onwards, including the two Voyager probes' notable flybys of Jupiter and Saturn.\n\nI am curious if this maneuver would kind of make sense around our sun, since the sun is moving through our galaxy. But our planets would already have this speed and direction too, or not? So that would not really be a gain? Yeah... unless you would start and end that maneuver outside the plane of the planets orbits. And why would you. There is nothing there.\n\nOh boy, I love stuff like this in SciFi! I wonder if someone better educated could chime in.", "in the words of Forky \"I'm Trash\" - nah kidding, this looks pretty great and my kid is going to be stoked", "This brings up so many questions about the current leading theories of Pixar Toy Consciousness.\n\nCurrently our model postulates that toys are manufactured with certain preset identities and as part of this process have memories implanted in their construction. Memories and identities that suit their \"character\".\n\nAnd only once the package is opened are their identities fungible, and open to be changed through the imagination, play, love, (or neglect) of a child.\n\nWe have considerable evidence for this model of consciousness as exhibited in scenes from \"Al's Toy Barn\" in film 2. Note how \"new Buzz\" exhibited the same patterns of behavior and understanding about the world as \"old Buzz\" when they were first opened. Only modifications being the new understanding of Zurg.\n\nHowever, if we are to interpret this trailer as more than just the boxed coma dream of an unawaked Buzz, then that leads us down a terrifying path of toys always being sentient. Of Buzz Lightyear being an individual, his own being, with a true history and past, captured and strapped into a cardboard box for consumption. Enslaved for the whim and pleasure of a child.\n\nTruly a dark path to take the Toy Story Universe down.", "[No it wasn't](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.I._Joe). The toy is from 1963/1964, and the cartoon didn't show up until the Reagan-era deregulated toy-ad cartoon trend. There were comic books with that name since the 1940s, but they weren't related to the toys until 1967.", "There's nothing wrong with what they're doing, making movies for kids and adults, but animated movies for adults could be really cool as well.", "Tim the Moonman Taylor", "Going around the sun like that is how you wind up [on a bus in San Francisco in 1986 trying to steal a couple whales](https://youtu.be/JfCpDQKHcUw)", "Well 20th century fox cancelled his show right before the Disney buyout. Given Tim’s politics…. They probably cancelled more than his show", "The movie I want: Emperor Zurg is only the mid-boss and this trailer looking PG is only to throw off the real boss being [Empress Zerg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVbeoSPqRs4&t=39s) and the movie being an R-rated galactic war crossover.", "And down here in the trenches we find the actual, simple answer to the mess that is “what’s this movie”", "Not For what it's worth by Buffalo Springfield and Paint it Black by the Stones for Vietnam? Spirit in the Sky for me is a Christmas Top of the Pops song...", "Didn't know I needed a Buzz Lightyear origin story, but now that I'm here.... yes please.", "Bonus points if he plays a smuggler", "To be fair he still voiced him in Toy Story 4 and that only came out in 2019, and Wallace Shawn still voiced Rex in his mid-70s.\n\nAt least in-universe it makes sense that the movie character would probably have a different \"voice\" than the toy.", "> I don't know, this doesn't seem like the kind of movie to have a coke smuggling snitch in it.\n\nYou tried so hard to sound witty on the internet, but still failed.", "i was always curious as a kid about Lightyear's star command schtick he always talked about. im glad this movie will be a thing so we have some sort of background/character historical context.", "Oh, so you're a piece of shit! Cool. Just wanted to clarify that.\n\nDid you know that people with your type of outlook have always criticized Sesame Street for its political leanings going back to 1967? Did you know that Jim Henson was a humanist and a hippie? It's true. He thought and taught that the most beautiful thing one can be is themselves. Even if that means CRT (whatever that is in your mind) and perhaps being Trans.", "Jesus...what a ride this comment was.", "Its not real. Who cares.", "People who enjoy shit. Thanks for nothing.", "Toym \"The Toyman\" Toyler", "Ah makes sense, was wondering why Zurg would have legs like that lol", "Only thing, does that not cheapen it a little? Like it looks awesome, but what we're supposedly seeing isn't a \"real\" character that has a journey, but an \"actor\" portraying that character. So even the movie itself is telling us that it isn't real.", "Of Course! How can I have been so foolish?!?! I mean they came out the same year and obviously my 4 year old would prefer to be a character from a poorly adapted and critically panned comic book movie than one of Pixar's most well known properties. This whole time, I was blinded by my own hubris and love of fish...\n\nthanks, you really set me straight.\n\n:D", "I think the entire thing is going to have set pieces that look like that. I think it looks more adult in its visuals but the scenery and set pieces will be more visually appealing to children.", "Cicierega is peak Millenial though. Born in 86, got big on AlbinoBlackSheep originally, creator of Ultimate Showdown and Potter Puppet Pals...", "When you need to merchandise the merchandise line of your merchandise.\n\nHow toyetic!", "its bad wording.\n\n \nin-universe of the Toy Story world. Like everyone is saying, Buzz is a toy based off some sort of movie or book in Andy's universe/toy story land, and we're watching a movie about his fictional \"backstory\"\n\nIts like watching x-men origins wolverine and buying the wolverine toy after because youre a fan of the movie.", "> gotta pay the bills and the adult animation market is still niche\n\nI was gonna say, adult animated cartoons have been on the rise in mainstream tv, but I doubt we'll see another dedicated adult animated movie* given how high risk it would be", "are they going to do the Lego movie ending an say its all the immigration of a young child playing with toys?", "Please let there be mira nova, booster and xr", "i low-key want that too\n\nlike its all epic and at the very end its Andy's imagination all along.", "i feel like most of the sexy version of the costumes are literally just the 4 year old version and not resized for an adult...", "Did you know you literally judged me based on nothing. I just said i am a huge fan of how much they changed learning for children since its genesis. \n\nDid i know jim henson was a hippie.. lol did you think i wasnt. I am confused.\n\nJim henson said the most beautiful thing is to take a metal disorder and not only celebrate it but encourage it? CRT is now considerered \"being you\".\n\nDid jim henson tell the KKK they were just being them or did he only support 1 form of racism haha", "The problem is getting funding for it because kids movies make most of their money through toy sales and adult animation can’t do that so investors are less willing.", "What's a pavement song? The band pavement?", "That's only for a free trajectory flyby, powered flybys are still very much a thing (theoretically) using the intense gravity well of a star:\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberth_effect", "This makes me think about and want a Disney+ series of \"Woody's Roundup\" that was in Toy Story 2. Expanding an IP like Toy Story into origin stories and expansion of little story details like that could be really cool", "Desktop version of /u/googlerex's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberth_effect>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", "You may be onto something...", "yeah. back in the day it was easy to differentiate pixar vs disney animated, and while im knowledgeable of Disney, i couldnt tell the difference between, say, Moana or Frozen vs the humans in Toy Story or The Incredibles. They look like the same 3D characters/skin/form factors", "I thought they meant [this](https://imgur.com/ECUA74I.jpg)", "> It’s supposed to be about the Astronaut that inspired the toys\n\nThat makes absolutely no sense.", "Except Niel Cicierega had been making stupid shit since before most of genz was even born lol", "No, it is Andy wayching the movie that inspired the toy.", "> adult animated cartoons have been on the rise in mainstream tv\n\nThey definitely have and even more so on streaming services, that's why I added \"when compared to Nickelodeon/Cartoon network\" cause those are just absolutely huge.", "Conversely, you did a great job of being a dick for no reason.", "Neil has been making music for almost literally decades. If you've been on the internet for longer than four years you probably remember [this.](https://youtu.be/wbKmETVWG64) Pretty sure it predates Youtube.", "Maybe Buzz Lightyear is a sci-fi series in the Toy Story universe, and the Buzz toy is just merch. Much like you could go out and buy a Darth Vader figurine without the events of Star Wars having happened for real.", "Gotta refresh those IP rights I guess", "That is a really good trailer.", "Summary: Disney wanted more toys to sell.", "Don't do this to me. Not today.", "Not today Zurg.", "This movie will sell a lot of $0.37 plastic toys for $30.", "Good example! And for the record there is nothing wrong with that, but it's confusing wording.", ".... assemble", "This movie HAS to end with the toy Buzz waking up from a dream about his \"real\" life.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvd3aEsThbc", "this seems like a prequel to that era of the Buzz canon.", "I hope at the end of this movie we find out it was written or directed by Andy.\n\nI would also accept a disappointed Andy walking out of the theater saying \"Not muh Buzz!\"", "well, in the Toy Story universe, there was presumably a sci-fi series or movie or something that the Buzz Lightyear toy was taken from for marketing. This is presumably that content. I doubt the toy was just fabricated from nothing and sold as some huge deal when there was no other media basis for his existence as a marketable toy. that's kinda the whole reason why he was a threat to the other toys- he came from a franchise, whereas they were all old-fashion toys for the sake of being a toy. he was a toy crafted to sell merch from an already existing entertainment franchise within the universe of the Toy Story movies. the old toys were toys like a yo-yo, or a doll house, and only Woody was really even remotely from some pre-existing media source. buzz was from a new era of marketing and merch... the one we had been living in since before Toy Story came out. but one that's interconnected with physical merch and the tv and movies we watch. \n\nthis movie isn't like, buzz lightyear's back story and then he became a toy... i mean, i guess it is sort of in some capacity, but I don't think the implication is that he was ever 'real.' he was just a successful franchise akin to Star Wars before having merch made and sold to kids in the Toy Story universe.\n\nconsider some of the most succesful entertainment franchises of all time- pokemon, harry potter, star wars\n\nnow consider if somebody just made some action figures or games of some 11 year old kid running around in a robe with wand... probably not going to sell all that well. but you make a movie first... well... suddenly you have created two interconnected revenue streams. same is true of pokemon, which if im not mistaken, is like the second best performing franchise ever... they made a cartoon series to sell trading cards and gameboy games. \n\nthis buzz lightyear movie is like that underlying start of a franchise that we, the Toy Story viewers, never got to see. we only saw Buzz as the product of that franchise.", "So, other than the suit and the catch phrase, this could have been an original property and nothing else would change, right?", "i want a re-master of the original toy story movies where they edit in clips from this trailer into some background shot on a tv or something. like ads for the buzz lightyear movie being relevant to the merch that andy owns. complete the circle- andy is definitely hyped for this movie prior to his birthday.", "Slight? It was pretty much the x-wing on Dagobah at one point.", "All those years of Academy training, REALIZED! Hype AF", "This is the one. True or not I don't care. This is now my head canon.", "but this isn't the \"real\" buzz... it's just the fictional character that the toys/merch in the toy story universe were based on. this is like, the movie Andy would have gone to see and been obsessed with for 6 months before the first action figures hit the shelves.", "This.", ">Did you know you literally judged me based on nothing\n\nNo, I judged you based on calling CRT (whatever that is in your head) and transgenderism lies. LOL on you sir.\n\n>did you think i wasnt?\n\nAbsolutely. I looked through your post history and think you're not a hippie with all of my being. You're a conservative who pretends to be whatever the argument you're picking requires you to be. \n\n>Jim henson said the most beautiful thing is to take a metal disorder\n\nWhere'd you train in psychology? Nowhere? So, why you talking above your station?\n\n>CRT is now considerered \"being you\".\n\nCRT is a lie conservatives tell themselves to avoid seeing that they're the bad guys of the modern age. It's not real, it's a hypothesis posed in academic circles to discuss the uneven outcomes of the American legal system (which you think is perfect and has no racial bias, I guess?)\n\n>Did jim henson tell the KKK they were just being them or did he only support 1 form of racism haha\n\nWhat racism is supported on Sesame Street? I don't want my children learning racist values.", "whatever, they just need to milk the cow of old disney content further", "I want to see some Clintwood Woody", "I’ll recant and say definite star wars vibes", "Ooooh, that was new to me! And it is an interesting physical effect that I really did not expect since it is really counter-intuitive to me, living in an atmoshphere. But in the vacuum of space? Cool! I never expected to be an increase in engine efficiency based on its speed. And now it all makes sense. Pixar redeemed! \n\nThanks a lot! :-)", "I am seeing people on Twitter saying this is cringe and proof movies are creatively bankrupt.\n\nImagine having that kind of opinion for a fucking children's movie.", "I wouldn't be so sure. His reputation in the industry gets increasingly murky each year because of what's known of his political views and what isn't known of his political views. He seems very conservative and has mentioned that being conservative in Hollywood is bad for your career. Beyond that, he doesn't talk politics much, and it's probably why you see him less and less.", "Do you think this is gonna be a serious drama? This is Disney and Pixar, they only ever gonna do family-friendly films with a silly comedic edge to them, this teaser hints at that already. \n\nI'm not asking for Tim Allen to reprise the role, but if this is a Buzz Lightyear \"origin story\" there is nothing wrong or \"silly\" about having a younger actor performing a similar voice.", "😠", "I am okay with it, the trailer looked awesome. And as you said it has a \"special\" look to it that is really going to make it stand out.", "I kind of hope it’s from the delusional perspective of a Buzz toy.", "I mean it’s Toy Story, even if they did it wouldn’t be 100% unexpected.", "The bots on either side have a Z on their chests and there's purple lighting. The box shows nothing and the color coming out isn't purple, just my thoughts as this happens right before the box scene.", "So... Theoretically Buzz (the astronaut) and Andy live in the same world. \n\nSo the tech and stuff we see in the teaser is current in Andy's world? \n\nAnd also even more theoretically we're gonna get an origin story of Woody at some point...", "Heard from people who went to one of his stand ups a few years ago and they said he was visibly inebriated and said certain racial slurs", "So he's like the original ghost busters movie, which inspired the cartoon, which lead to the Slimer Toys? None of it is real, and a kid with a Slimer toy who watched the cartoon may be unaware of the Bill Murray movie.", "Waiting for Lone Ranger Woody Movie.", "As Shaggy the dog", "I think the phrase “adult content” has a different implication than just “content for adults.” This movie is the latter.", "Its like \"Buzz Lightyear of Star Command\" movie that came out in 2000. Its a movie that is what the toy \"Buzz Lightyear\" is based off of in the Toy Story Movie. So its not the actual Toy doing the mission, but the character the toy is based off of.", "I didn’t realize it was Chris Evans and not Tim Allen. Did he finally get canceled for being an asshat?", "Fair point — based on the trailer it definitely looks like more of a sci-if drama with comedic elements than a straight up kid’s film, but it’s a small distinction. I do think that Chris Evans’ voice fits the character though, he’s fairly gruff when he wants to be and he sounds a fair bit like Tim Allen without just doing an impression of him.", "This is a fictional gritty reboot of a fictional fiction.\nAs in Andy grew up with a campy Buzz Lightyear story in his universe, so film studios in his universe capitalized on his nostalgia now that Andy has disposable income.", "This looks sweet as hell and I’m sorry you’re a bitter person who hates fun.", "Funny as fuck! TIL that in order to be a hippy, you must be a racist and enable and destroy people with mental disorders.", "It's useless unless you know what the hell to look for though.", "This must have been how Andy imagined when he played with his toy Buzz Lightyear.", "Seriously?", "Is that what you got from my post? I was trying to say \"hippies mind their business\" and point out how you're a Karen.\n\nI'm such a failure.", "It sounds like Zurg is gonna be in it.\n\nBut yeah, otherwise, it's all original seemingly.\n\nI think this is a really cool idea though.", "Spoilers dude!!", "Anyone who thinks trump support is even close to nazi Germany are mentally deficient", "Ahhhh, that's what I was thinking too, ok, makes more sense.", "Yeah when you look for racism everywhere, you'll find it.", "So is this a movie about a movie that inspired the fictional toy, or is this a movie about a fictional person that inspired a fictional toy? Would Andy go see this movie and beg his mom for the toy, or could he go shake the man's hand? Is Andy's Buzz my Harry Stamper from Armageddon, or my Chris Hadfield? How deep does this rabbit hole go? \n\nIts a fiction [within](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZYgsZPAPSs) a fiction...\n\nBWAAAAAAAAAAAAAMB", "Precisely", "My GPU fan already heating up lookin at this", "Holding onto that for 43 years.", "Boy, the slingshot and general vibe really reminds me of Farscape. Really need to rewatch that show...", "Bing is freer and also has reward points that can be traded in for a $5 gift card.", "Yeah and Biden is fucking people even more than trump ever could.", "I would sign this petition.", "... or Ghostbusters?", "its not rocket science, its based off the astronaut that inspired the toy within the movies.", "Its pressure from people to replace anyone who doesn't agree with their opinions, they don't get the irony after they compare others to nazis while insisting they be silent and not acknowledged.", "??? Ghostbusters was a Movie first, cartoon second. Transformers was a cartoon first, movie second. I was proposing that this movie is like Transformers.", "Zero proof of racism and how dare anyone have different opinions!!!", "perspective. in one sense, Toy Story 1 doesn't seem like it was that long ago. however, when you remember that it was the first fully CG animated movie, and you think about all the other CG animated movies that have come out since, it feels like several lifetimes ago.", "I don’t think this is correct actually. Also, it’s significant because the world of Toy Story has been consistently aligned with the real world. By making this a real world astronaut in their universe, they’re suggesting that Andy lives in a world with advanced space exploration. So, it’s my understanding that it’s a fictional character in Andy’s world. Like James Bond and a toy based on James Bond.", "Upvote for “uagh” lmao I heard it in my head", "Because they know a lot of people will hate it", "Ah. That makes more sense with the point you were making.", "Tell me you’re British without telling me you’re British.", "No, we have become toy story Andy.", "So asshat now means having different opinions", "Yes", "And then there's Guardians of the Galaxy which is set in outer space and has a trailer with \"Spirit in the Sky\"", "For what it's worth, I think Soul was aimed more at adults. It's literally one of my favorite movies of 2020", "IRL weren't the recordings for the Woody toys actually recorded by Tom Hanks's brother?", "Yeah, I mean good for Chris Evans for landing the role, I'm sure he'll do fine. It's just that Tim Allen's is so ubiquitous to the character that Disney hired him to redub the Buzz Lightyear TV movie for Disney+.\n\nPlus it's not like Tim Allen's voice could never work with a serious portrayal, rewatch the scene in the first Toy Story where Buzz and Woody are trapped in Sid's room after Buzz realises that he really is a toy and his whole identity has been a lie, for example, that's a mature and serious Buzz Lightyear to me.", "“I’m a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude.”", "Yeah for sure. I was just using all the most recent examples since their last sequel", "It’s supposed to be about the FICTIONAL astronaut that inspired the toy. As in a in-universe storybook that inspired merchandise", "Wasn't that the old dude who cleaned up Woody in Toy Story 2?", "We are all Pan's People, dear stranger.", "God dammit I really wanted to not like this trailer", "Can't really argue that they don't make top notch movies. They created characters that people love and movies that people really love. Haters gonna hate.", "And I am ok with that.", "Is your kid also in their 30’s?", "So are we going to get Woody next?", "He literally went on a rant about how he should be able to say the N word. Lmfao.", "And yet all my action figures had the same voice/lines as their movie/show counterparts", "He said the N word multiple times. If you close your eyes and cover your ears maybe you'd miss the racism.", "There should be a scene where a toy in the background moves a little and none of the humans realize", "Some bodies are formed, with hydrogen and helium, ohhhh they're red, white or blue 🎶", "They're setting this up to replace buzz with a black woman, arent they...", "I can’t believe people (definitely including me) are over analyzing this aspect", "YOU ARE A CHILD'S PLAYTHING!", "Transformers were toys before the cartoon, though.", "You’re assuming there’s no time travel involved. And since FTL travel is time travel …", "yeah... closer to 30 than 20 even... whoo boy that reminded me of how old I am.", "I think \"in-universe\" refers to the \"Lightyear\" universe. I agree with you that it's stupidly ambiguous & I had the same interpretation at first, but it just wouldn't make any sense.", "It makes sense. Buzz in Toy Story is a toy based on a character in movies/tv. This is the Buzz movie the toy is based on. Think back to the toys you had based on movies and how often the voice was different.", "Honestly weird its not live action seeing thats what studios seem to be so keen on shitting out using their well known IPs.", "Yeah but my Woody toy is voice by Jim Hanks.", "You were 30 when Toy Story came out? I'm 31 now. I wonder what bit of cool nostalgia will come out that 26 years later I can get this excited about when I'm 56. Rather I hope I still get this excited when I'm that mature.", "Im a rocketman", "Good riddance, ya looney", "Having a token black lady show up to be a cheerleader for the white lead is racism.", "Sounds more like a real in-universe astronaut who inspired the fictional media.\n\nWould explain the different voices. If the astronaut in this film were fake just like the toys, they'd have the same voice actors.\n\nUnless the wiki is poorly worded.", "Yes, mine too. He's a month old but uh, he'll give it a shot anyway.", "> Buzz Lightyear of Star Command\n\nI hope there's references to that show in this film", "This look cooler than it should.", "I’m sorry, Moana, Wreck it Ralph and Raya are not forgettable.", "FTL travel is already confirmed to be real in the Pixar universe (Wall-E). It's a bit surprising that it's possible (or, at least, seemingly in the late testing stage) during/before Andy's time, though. \n\nThen again, this is the universe with casual cross-dimensional travel powered by strong human emotions, which is for sure functional during Andy's time, so maybe i shouldnt be surprised", "Well we do get adult oriented animated movies. Think Sausage Party, Witcher, Injustice, Beowulf etc. These days they like most movies are on streaming rather than or in addition to theatrical releases.\n\nI wish we'd get more.", "Not too long after toy story movie came out, Disney had a series of Buzz Lightyear being a space space police. Its great series, but where I'm going at is that it was spin off away from the universe of toys. I think, to some degree, this is something similar but definitely not in the same genre as the police version I'd seen.", "My head hurts", "To be fair, he was the star of the most popular show on television at the time of casting.", "they're Anti-Santa", "all you have to say is 1995... and it hits me like a ton of bricks.", "I had never heard Bowie's \"Starman\" before this and I hope to never repeat the experience.", "Me I’m hoping for him to crash land on ranch and meets Woody coming to rescue him.", "wrong. go watch teletubbies.", "Okay. I’ll report back once done.", "As an avid watcher of the Buzz Lightyear TV show as a kid, I'm annoyed that neither Tim Allen nor Patrick Warburton are voicing the role!", "Raya was incredibly forgettable with a very strange convoluted story of characters that seemed to mostly exist as throwaways or for toys\n\nMoana is fantastic though\n\nAnd Coco is some of the tops", "What did he do? I thought he just did a lot of cocaine and was a conservative. Are those canclable offences these days?", "The first thing that crossed my mind is that Buzz's ship looks like a kick-ass version of a No Man's Sky spacecraft.", "This trailer is a god-damn work of art, by itself, and there's nothing you can do to convince me otherwise", "4-year-old me is going absolutely insane.", "Sucks that it isn't Tim Allen. It's going to make the whole movie feel weird. Guess I'll go re-watch Galaxy Quest again to get my Tim Allen in space fix.", "> quickly forgettable\n\nWait until you have kids. I can sing every song of Moana by heart.", "Didn't they already make a Buzz Lightyear show with XR and friends?\n\nAre they back too? Or is this completely different?", "Just google key words…", "Tim Allen has become problematic. I know that's hard to believe of someone who became popular for playing the embodiment of toxic masculinity in a sitcom, and yet here we are.", "Most Disney movies try to have broad appeal, which is party why they're so successful. Make a movie the whole family wants to see and you sell 4 tickets instead of 2.", "So are all Pixar movies confirmed to be in the same universe? I know there are easter eggs in some that reference each other, but is that 100% across the board for all movies?", "Disney marketing really has their work cut out for themselves, here.", "I feel like for the past 5 years or so I've heard so many David Bowie songs in Movies and TV shows", "In space you can slingshot off of anything you fucking want if you have the right mass, speed, and trajectory to do so.", "OK, I'm done watching any other trialers or spoilers for this. Total blackout on it until next June.\n\nSo awesome looking. And the perfect music. 🙂", "These kind of comments just sound bitter. Like people saying the same with Nintendo and I've seen it recently with the GTA trilogy reboot. \n\nObviously a lot of people want these and they will probably sell a shit-ton because of it. They are invested in the characters and stories. No one is forced to buy it but they keep doing it even if you don't like it. There are arguments about trying to get money using weak nostalgia but the complaint seems overused because they're not getting exactly what they expected from a company with every product.\n\nBut besides all of that, this Lightyear thing seems like a pretty good expansion of a universe that people love.", "Its not confirmed, and theres some obviously problematic entries that make it hard to really for certain say that all the movies share a universe, but theres a pretty hardcore following that they are.\n\nBiggest problems are Good Dinosaur and Onward, everything else is pretty easy to say its in a shared universe similar to ours but at different times and places (and in some cases, different dimensions. Looking at you, Monsters INC)", "> sexy nemo\n\nLike.. Nemo the fish? Nemo the crippled child fish?", "His ship is fueled by Coaxium. THIS IS STAR WARS.", "Make a count of all pixar films that are sequels, and all of them that are new. I'll wait\n\nAlso...you cant' even call this a sequel", "Who was the idiot that made that decision? Yeah, I get that Tim's voice is the voice of the toy that is based on the person, but is it uncommon for a toy that is based on a real person to have one that is similar to the real person? I think they pooched it.", "Definitely the angle I'd most want to watch.", "Who pissed in your cornflakes?", "8 year old me is ecstatic", "Just..Let it go..", "As much as I wish animation would get it's proper respect as a medium instead of a genre(???), I doubt we're getting these pixar-style movies aimed at adults anytime soon.\n\nSpiderverse was animated and even then you could see a lot of people going \"I would go and see it in theaters, but it's a cartoon :/\". There's unfortunately a weird stigma surrounding animation that's it's for kids and even if \"adults can enjoy it\", there's no point in actually purposefully paying to see an animated movie unless you're seeing it with a child.", "Real question is how would this fit into the Pixar Theory?", "Nah, you drew the right conclusion from that synopsis. It's really poorly worded lol.", "Omg this looks incredible.", "> Spirit in the Sky\n\nThis song is the Angels Baseball theme song in my head", "People complaining that there’s FTL travel in the Toy story universe seem to forget there’s also Animated hoards of toys with self agency.", "Except not really. 95% of people who see this trailer will just go, cool a buzz light year movie, that’s looks exciting”\n\nThis thread is just going into depth/canon that general viewers don’t give a shit about, we just find it interesting. \n\nLook at the Star War movies, they still made millions even though those have kind of gone a bit off in their stories/canon", "lol, that's going to be the end. It was all Andy imagining this and playing with Buzz. A cowboy that looks like woody is going to show up on Mars in the last scene or something.", "Every time I hear Major Tom I get goosebumps, so I hope they keep using it.", "/r/iamverysmart", "IT'S BUZZ LIGHTYEAR YOU CAN GO RIGHT TO PIZZA PLANET'S CLAW MACHINE BUSTER", "I was hoping that we'd see Mira and XR and Booster but given the style, it's unlikely. Or rather, an adaptation of those characters in a satisfying way is unlikely. Better to have no references at all.", "At one point it was just a division of George Lucas' ILM before he had to sell it off to pay for his divorce.", "apparently being anything other than a Democrat is worthy of cancelation these days.\n\noOoOohHhH downvotes", "It's not over-analyzing, it's literally part of the basic worldbuilding. Would be like saying \"I hope they have a reference to Ahsoka's death and resurrection in the new Ahsoka series!\" It's part of established lore, even if not everyone knows about it.", "You can't just aim for the sun and hit it.", "Mel Brooks \"Merchandising! Merchandising!\"", "I would've preferred they kept Tim Allen", "Sooo... Buck Rogers? Farscape?", "IDK, listen to his voice in the incredibles 2, it's not great and that was 5-6 years ago depending on when they recorded it.", "I'm sure Disney would sign off on that.", "Did Tim Allen die or something", "I would kindly take Bo Peep, Rex, Slinky Dog, Toy Soldiers and Etch before Woody.", "Tim \"the drugman\" Dealer", "What? That's Buzz. Unless at some point Zurg wore the same uniform. I imagine the doors are going to open up to reveal Zurg, but we can only see purple light in this trailer.", "Are we just pretending the animated series never happened?", "Hurr hurr hurr “who pissed in my cornflakes” so original.", "They can’t fool me. I’m boycotting unless Tim Allen is in it", "Squeezing life out of an old movie franchise. Check \nDiversity quota filled. Check \nHuge toy and merchandising opportunities. Check", "But a tweet from pixar said the same thing. That it’s based on a real astronaut in-universe. That doesn’t make any sense to me though, because Toy Story is supposed to be in the “real” world", "That doesnt make moana a great movie. No one will be talking about moana when they talk about timeless classics 60 years from now.", "A few years ago the professional ballet here did a little mermaid show. Based on original story not Disney. When they got the costumes in they found 6 really cute fish costumes. They had auditions and my daughter got to be one of 12 they chose (2 casts). It was so cool for her and an amazing costume. Hope you found something fun.", "I would argue into spiderverse was mainly targeted towards adults.", "My expectations were pretty much nonexistent, but this looks freaking stellar", "Who the fuck is this movie for??? Wouldn't kids rather have a movie about Buzz Lightyear (either the talking toy or the space ranger who fights Emperor Zerg)???", "Not sure if i pee’d my pants out of excitement or some other underlying issues.. I’m 36 and can’t wait for this", "I'm personally a fan of actions having consequences, but to each their own I guess.", "Yes, anyone with any criticism (valid or not) is a hater that can be dismissed. Thats healthy", "Except the Cars universe.....", "Is a movie automatically bad if it doesn't fit the \"timeless classics in 60 years\" category?? That's an absurd bar to set", "Sure, I'd say teens to Adult. Nothing too offensive for young kids, but there's some themes that would fly over their heads and some character deaths that some parents wouldn't want their kid to see.", "Now they just need to have a serious Pixar western about Sherrif Woody and we have the start of our very own toy story cinematic universe", "I think a clarification of terms is needed to understand what /u/Minisynn actually means with 'quickly forgotten' - because I agree with that statement whole heartedly.\n\nIf you've ever read anything written by the likes of Joseph Campbell and Carl Jung, you probably already know where I am going with this - but in case you're not too familiar with their work, I would like to take a moment to discuss some of their ideas. \n\nThe contemporary films are 'forgettable' in the sense that they won't have the same long lasting impact within film and literature that, let's say, The Lion King or Toy Story had. The reason being due to the fact that the movies are lesser representations of the mythological material that precedes the story. In other words, the source of the inspiration is greater than the meme that mimics it, whereas good memes are greater representations of the original. \n\nIn the case of The Lion King, for example, the story is an evolution of old literature and mythology, drawing inspiration from works like the writings of William Shakespeare and many great philosophical thinkers. The first Toy Story is a greater retelling of the Kane and Able story from the Bible - how one's sacrifices, once undervalued, can lead to your responsibilities (what gives your life meaning) getting abdicated and you form a vengeful resentment towards those who are rewarded, one with murderous implications. \n\nThe story of Buzz and Woody in Toy Story is mimicking mythology, and it's a greater representation of the underlying ethos. Remember, Disney's whole schtick was animating mythological stories - from Snow White and Sleeping Beauty, to Beauty and the Beast. If you think Disney has abandoned their ability to adapt mythology, you haven't paid enough attention to how they craft stories. But some of their films are better at doing that than others - and those who do a better job of passing on the logos (it's genes) to the new generation are the stories that we choose to represent that mythology. It's natural selection, but for literature. \n\nSo I agree that some of those movies, like Raya, will not \"carry the genes\" of the mythologies they represent, certainly not to the same degree that Toy Story and Lion King have been able to. It's partly because, while they're entertaining pieces of cinema all on their own, they aren't a greater evolution of the underlying mythology, so their \"genes\" will not live on for generations the same way the greater stories do. \n\nI wrote this up really quickly and I'm sure I have typos and flaws in my argument - please let me know if you would like to continue this discussion by contributing with your own thoughts and observations. Have a great day!", "Give us a sheriff woody show set in the Wild West please", "They’ve never confirmed it but things like the Pizza Planet truck and Buy N Large appearing in everything from Brave to WallE to Toy Story and toys and posters for other movies appearing throughout all of them make it seem legit. Maybe it’s just fun animated Easter eggs. Maybe it’s some kind of clue.", "Where did I say bad? We are talking about being forgettable. People are thinking in the wrong timescale if they think forgettable means this year.\n\nIve seen moana 100 times because of my kids but Im confident when they are teens I wont be able to remember the name of \"that movie you watched every day\".", "Are you sure it's not about a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude?", "lol @ the black woman they jammed in at the end there, like the trailer was finished and someone told them they forgot to meet the diversity quota", "Tim Allen used to be the voice of buzz light-year. He also used to do coke and ratted accomplices out to get a lighter sentence.", "I'm not trying to be contrarian just for the sake of it, and I know it's only a teaser, but this felt pretty uncompelling. \n\nAnimation is gorgeous, but I'm not sold on seeing it just yet. Looks...dare I say..boring?", "Every franchise will eventually replace the main character with a sassy black chick who is effortlessly better than everyone else.", "Dramatic sweeps across stage!", "26 years ago. Jesus fucking christ I feel old.", "That's not what it is. This is like a live-action movie that would exist within the Toy Story universe.\n\nWithin the Toy Story universe, Buzz Lightyear, the toy, is like a Luke Skywalker toy. An official piece of merchandise attached to a sci-fi media franchise. \"Lightyear\" is like \"Star Wars,\" the source material for the merchandise.\n\nNow Pixar is bringing \"Lightyear\" to our world.", "Kids are growing up at the beginning of the second space race. It's an exciting time to be interested in space for sure.", "Lol funny you say that. There's several old lego ads that show exactly what your kid imagines. 7 or so bricks making giant, detailed ships and planes.", "I was actually wondering why Mr. Incredible was in Buzz Lightyear's movie, and then I was like \"oh, that is Buzz Lightyear, and then I started thinking what you said, and then...", "AUYUUGGHHHHG?!", "Tim Alien", "James Brown's \"I Got You (I Feel Good)\" for every comedy released in the 80s.", "yeah yeah yeah, but the trick is to sssllllloooowww them down. Everything has to be slow, even the slow songs.", "You guys arent even gonna watch it \n\n\n\n\n/s", "No, that is incorrect. Buzz Lightyear is a fictional character within Andy's world. Buzz is to Andy what Luke Skywalker is to us. And this \"Lightyear\" movie is like Andy's version of \"Star Wars\"", "This looks so gewd", "In reality…you need to understand that they are forgettable for you. There are more people in this world than you, and it appears that many people enjoy the movie.\n\nI like Moana and many of the other recent Disney/Pixar movies. It’s also about your age. I bet you’d say Toy Story is a classic because you saw it when you were a kid, while my kids will say that Frozen or Moana are classics because that’s their jam.\n\nDon’t take life so seriously, bud. Everyone can have different opinions.", "RemindMe! 9 months", "Love Death Robots on Netflix too\n\nnot sure if that is in house Netflix or outsourced to others", "> the origin of the in-universe astronaut who inspired the cartoon and toys.\n\nwouldn't that be like watching a movie about Neil Armstrong, or Star Wars ?", "To infinity and what??? Don’t leave us hanging.", "Buzz Lightyear of Star Command is about to become non-canon, isn't it?\n\nAww, Well. this still looks pretty cool.", "Remember when Dreamwork’s was a good competitor against Pixar.", "Fan theory prediction. Buzz is a real \"person\" (alien who looks human), ends up on earth via crash landing that effects his memory, and due to \"kingdom hearts\" rules, must appear as a toy to hide his identity, which even he does not know. His image is captured somehow and used as the basis for a new toy line, which he inadvertently blends into.", "Oh I'm turning into a man child and getting super giggly at this. Nostalgia hits fucking hard.", "When the merch comes out I will be able to buy a toy based on the movie based on the toy that was based on a show that appeared in 4 movies with other toys", "Bold prediction. Tim Allen is persona non grata within Disney these days.", "Woody for Post credit scene", "No, that's not it. Lightyear is a fictional universe within the Toy Story universe. We know it can't be the same universe, because the trailer shows interstellar travel, and Toy Story takes place in the 90's.\n\nThe voice actor difference is not weird. Imagine you watched Star Wars and then bought a Darth Vader toy. And the Vader toy had a voice box. It would not sound exactly the same as James Earl Jones in the movies.", "Another new Disney movie that makes me think \"is this a joke?\" and \"why?\".", "I'm a special kind of breed i think :). Most people my age have no clue when i'm getting excited about a new movie, cartoon or game that comes out. people of my age look realy strange at me when i tell i love watching streamers play games.", "I think he looks a little like Tom Cruise", "I think he looks a little like Tom Cruise.", "Riplay this any thing", "Know what? For once I'm not being cynical with a disney trailer for the first since like Up. It's a weird choice and the music choice is cliche AF but I'm always down for a good sci fi flick especially one thats not gritty distopia. I might actually go out of my way to check this one out", "And he punched a guy who was harassing him.", "This is Star Wars. Just needs light sabers and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.", "I will say this in his defense; he came out fully against the Jan 6 capitol riots, saying not only that it was \"shameful\" and \"embarassing\", but also suggesting that they had inside help, which it's turning out they did.", "When that adult elastigirl movie coming out?", "If you want to go deeper, Tom Hanks doesn't do the voices for IRL toys, it's his brother.", "This just doesn't feel like buzz lightyear, doesn't look like him or anything.", "Lol sure thing bud. Keep banging the broken drum.", "Robert Downey Jr is playing Buzz Lightyear?", "Well it would be pretty easy for them to say that this happened in our time but is a top secret mission using top secret technology that the world doesnt know about. To the rest of the world, it is just a simple mission to space but to those in the know it is a mission to infinity...and beyond. \n\n...I'll see myself out.", "Why the incestuous cannibalisation of every ounce of nostalgia? This movie could likely have a few minor tweaks, a different name, and it would have stood on it's own legs. But I guess an infinite re-feeding of vomit is all that can be expected from our short-term-profit-seeking-late-stage-capitalism dystopia.", "Trump: Almost overthrows democracy and free elections \nBiden: Gas prices went up\n\nYou: OMG BIDEN IS SO EVIL!!!1!", "ok but if this is true, wouldnt Lightyear pre-date 1995 when the first Toy Story took place? shouldnt it look like a less modern film? what we see in the trailer looks far too modern. unless within the pixar universe, Lightyear is a remake of a much older film. thats why it looks like it was made to the standards of films in 2021, and not say 1965. fuck this is all so confusing", "> oh wait, I misunderstood the layers of 'fictional' here. So he's from a sci-fi franchise in the toy story universe.\n\nThat's what I thought but that's not how that wiki line reads... it says this movie is about the in-universe astronaut who inspired* the cartoon and toys\n\nso... I think it's suggesting that Buzz Lightyear was a real astronaut in Toy Story land, of which they made the Buzz Lightyear toy that Andy had. So like, theoretically the Buzz Lightyear in this movie could go interact with Andy when he was a little kid.\n\nI feel like that has to be wrong though, right? That wouldn't make any sense, it being a sci-fi franchise in the toy story universe would make way more sense.\n\ne: from other comments, one citing pete docter, that wiki line is wrong/poorly worded and this is indeed a fictional movie set in the toy story universe", "It's not the same character apparently. It's like a movie that occurs in the same toy story universe where the astronaut is based on the Buzz Lightyear toy. So like a fictional movie within the toy story world, something Andy would go to the theater and see.", "> Why don't we see evidence of higher technology in Andy's suburb?\n\nWhat do you mean? Space travel is so advanced they can import pizzas from a whole other planet dude, didn't you watch the movies?", "We need new ideas.", "Regardless if this isn't about buzz light year himself, I can't watch it if it isn't voiced by Tim Allen. Completely ruins it for me.", "In the Toy Story universe this is just the blockbuster movie that inspired Buzz the toy.", "Christ, you guys could use some comprehension skills ;)", "I think the point is that in the toy story universe, this is the movie that inspired the Buzz Lightyear toy and the star command cartoon. So chronologically, this movie happens before the events in toy story. This makes it more akin to Ghostbusters in our universe, since the Ghostbusters movie was before the Ghostbusters toys and cartoon.\n\n...I think.", "This makes much more sense. Since Toy Story was essentially set in the 90s, it seems pretty implausible that this movie could be made in that world prior to then. And I just love the idea that Buzz became a more real and interesting character through Andy!", "Great trailer. Gives you a taste of what you're in for without spoilers.", "Good god man!", "Wait.... no Tim Allen???", "Today’s animators really found the sweet spot between the realistic and cartoonish look", "This seems terrific as a 21-minute short but I can't imagine it being a full feature-length story worth telling. I don't much enjoy seeing my childhood milked.", "The fourth: \"Oh god not this shit.\"\n\nI don't want Disney to get it into their heads to ruin every pixar property one by one like they did with the live action remakes of their animated films.", "His voice is so iconic for the role.", "Well, I mean that launch was also almost an exact recreation of Halo Reach’s level Long night of Solace. No, seriously, I shit you not. That was shot for shot.\n\nNot too important, but just wanted to point out something neat.", "I’m so confused", "Oh, I was thinking in terms of an old series that got rebooted for nostalgia, like Transformers, or Ghostbusters.", "All we need is Detective Munch to make a cameo so we can link Tommy Westphal and then a whole ton more.", "Should I feel extra old for getting this reference?", "whats another one with starman? my thought when watching this is i'm surprised that's not more used.", "It’s a cartoon", "Hold on, IN universe? So Toy Story is set in a ultra technological future?\n\nPixar is DEAD.", "I think the article (and a more recent one published by [Variety](https://twitter.com/variety/status/1453382843875270662?s=21) ) suggest that Buzz Lightyear is an actual person in the Universe rather than an action hero. But I guess we’ll see when the movie comes out.", "There is a point to milking a series for its worth, but I still think this is really cool concept to explore. In essence, we are watching the same film that Andy saw, much like if Andy were to have seen Star Wars and had a Luke Skywalker figure. Something about that meta has me intrigued and I will definitely see it in theaters.", "Oh it's Disney calling the shots on Pixar and shoving crap up their throats. Pixar is dead.", "Cut to Ricky Gervais laughing.", "You’re thinking about this way too much. They see a buzz movie as a way to make a lot of cash, don’t waste your energy", "So Lightyear is to Toy Story what Kill Bill is for Pulp Fiction?", "Do you have a really bad memory or something? I'm not a parent but I did the same thing to my mom and dad with The Lion King and I PROMISE they will remember that movie forever. These movies are kind of classics because they become formative for children and adolescents (and parents by proxy). And then they'll be remade or given a sequel and the cycle continues. This is the Disney classic and say what you will about them as a company, they are damn good at it.", "I want a Toy Story prequel set in 1967 during the Summer of Love.", "Saw this thumbnail this morning and thought \"oh cool, a buzz lightyear fan film, will watch it later\"... came back and was shocked to see it's Pixar. Such a surprising choice, but it looks good.", "Tim Allen is Buzz the toy. This is clearly a “real” person. Honestly, I think the same voice would feel weird, but there were probably a bunch of reasons they didn’t bring Allen back.", "This [Variety](https://twitter.com/variety/status/1453382843875270662?s=21) article suggests (unambiguously) that the Buzz Lightyear in this movie is a real person in-universe, not a fictional person.", "Oh i know, im just having fun with this goofy ass paradox", "A wizard did it.\n\n\nFrom what I'm understanding this is the fictional sci-fi movie in Andy's world that inspired the toy.", "I suggest you don't worry about this sort of thing and just enjoy yourself! (looks at camera) That goes for you all, too.", "Dope. But why isn’t Buzz Lightyear of Star Command on Disney+?", "or the Mork and Mindy to Happy Days?", "And who inspired buzz lightyear of starcommand?\n\nEven if it wasnt they're allowed to retcon and do whatever they want.", "Funny, every time I hear Spirit in the Sky, I think of Apollo 13... an outer space movie set during the Vietnam War.", "Buzz Yogur light", "That article seems to be based off of a misunderstanding of what Chris Evans tweeted. I'm going to side with the CCO on what the film is: A film about Buzz Lightyear the character, not the toy; much like the animated TV show that came out years back.", "IT'S A MOVIE BASED ON A MOVIE DISGUISED AS ANOTHER MOVIE!", "So. Fucking. Stupid.", "Hmn no it's not a spin off... It's a media inside a media. It's like if they did an adaptation of \"The Grasshopper Lies Heavy\" after doing the adaptation of \"The Man in the High Castle\". Or if \"Oww my Balls\" was produced as a film set in the \"Idiocracy\" universe.", "people shit on pixar for looking too pixar-y, the moment they divest from that even a tiny bit people complain it isn't pixar-y enough\n\nya can't win, can ya", "That’s super silly. Toy Story is set in the Toy Story universe, not in the “real” world. Unless you think Toy Story is real and toys are alive in the real world.\n\nThe Toy Story universe may be very similar to our own, but it diverges as the movies show stuff that doesn’t exist in the real world, be it living toys or interplanetary travel.\n\nIt’s not like this contradicts anything already shown in-universe.", "Yeah the tech looks way too advanced for current day. Everything in Toy Story is even kind of retro. Even the TV show Buzz is based on looks very Flash Gordon than contemporary to Andy's time. If it were a real person that inspired the toy then Andy must live in the freaking holodeck.", "Looks cool and all but I don't understand what it has to do with Buzz, it could have been any generic astronaut (i know it's Buzz for marketing reason)", "They don't show his face, but he's heavily teased.", "For those out of the loop https://youtu.be/7Y-Pc0cz-9o", "I would interpret \"for adults\" as having real characterization, more complex plots and themes, and the MCU definitely doesn't qualify for that. The only superhero movie I can think of that at least gets into the ballpark was Logan.", "Yes. But it also makes you cooler because you knew Star Trek when it was still good.", "I just read a bunch of things I never thought I would.", "My ticket is sold too. I am more excited than any 44 year old should be.. I can't wait!", "Are they making the Toy Story Cinematic Universe?", "Oh I got a good one, if they made Tool Time from Home Improvement.", "Except the astronauts are much older, much fatter, and much richer.", "He’s trying to get to Eve obviously.", "those people aren't astronauts. The men and women training constantly at the JPL in preparation for a moon station and Mars base are the real astronauts kids will be looking up to.", "Why", "I hear you. There are multiple other articles that also suggest that this character is real (for instance, [MSN ](https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/how-new-buzz-lightyear-movie-will-explore-the-backstory-of-toy-storys-space-ranger/ar-AAQ1m6Y)) based on what Disney themselves also said, but ultimately, time/the movie will tell.", "Well, maybe if he wasn't in on faking the Emperor Zurg meeting....", "Yeah, this is the spinoff i didn't know that i wanted, but I'm totally on board", "Because of the MCU movies, GOTG has license to use just about any kitschy music from that era built right into the plot.", "As a 33 year old man… to infinity and beyond!!!!", "He's dead now, so he doesn't have to feel the pain of commercialization in person.", "I think it’s gonna be the cast of toy story watching this movie and commenting on it", "If you aren't a tree-hugging hippy, then stay off of Reddit!", "I’m buzzing for this!", "A desire to sell toys inspired the in-universe cartoon. It was designed to parallel things like _G.I. Joe_ and _Transformers_.", "It's a movie about the \"real-life\" astronaut who inspired the Buzz Lightyear toys in the Toy Story fictional universe.", "Chris Evans? Seemed like Disney craved a different kind of Buzz.", ">\tballing like a baby\n\n👶🏼🏀⛹️‍♂️", "The wiki is poorly written. According to Pete Docter, this is a movie that inspired the toy. So FTL does not exist in the Toy Story universe (unless we get like Toy Story 10 set in the year 2050 or whatever).\n\nBasically it's a fictional scifi movie in the Toy Story universe that inspired the Buzz Lightyear toy.", "And the falcon 9, that's hella cool", "Now i'm imagining a post credit scene where older Andy is walking out of the movie theatre with his kid after having watched it.", "Am I wrong in thinking there aren't many other big budget animated sci-fi movies? I think this is why I'm so siked for this", "The bleach for your eyes is around here somewhere...I'd help you but...", "My biggest question is...why? Did we need this lol. Toy story trilogy was solid! They really should have left it there. But ok 4th one...was fine. But like do we need a backstory to a toy. You know if this crushes they'll do a woody one. I just think it's ok to let the franchise die. Its did its job and provided happiness for like 25 years. Maybe a new property is in order guys. Idk is it just me?", "> On toys the voice usually is more wonky than the movie actors\n\nFun fact, the voice on the Woody toys was done by Tom Hanks' brother... this was done largely to give his brother some work (suggesting that otherwise, Hanks would have been happy to do it himself).", "Fortunate Son?", "We already have the in-universe context for him from the second movie: the puppet show Woody's Roundup.", "Didn't they already give us the origin for Woody though, he was based on an old childrens western serial show called Woody's Roundup.", "Can't lie, looking forward to the Ace Rimmer origin story.", "Wouldn’t be surprised if Buzz got a action figure of himself and then pressed on of the button to play a voice line with Tim Allen and then the movie ends lol", "That was before they started making movies though", "The lion king is not moana. Culture is also different now. A movie isnt a rare thing and kids get stuck on a million different things for different periods. They are absolutely drowned in content right now. Next week itll be a different show/movie/game/whatever that the kids are obsessed with. My parents remember lion king and toy story because they were one of 10 VHSs that we had and played repeatedly. Sure my kids watch things over and over, but in a few weeks/months they move onto a new thing to watch over and over and itll frankly be sad if I remember them all in 15 years. Ill remember the good ones, but not all of them and I'm pretty confident moana won't be a standout. My son was obsessed with wall-e at one point and Im sure Ill remember that one.", "I will once we get just around the riverbend.", "Nothing about my comment would suggest that I take life too seriously. I understand they are kids movies. Thats not what the discussion was about, or what I replied to. Much like disney movies, your comment has a lot of feel-goodery that doesnt really have much meaning or address anything relevant.", "Pixar is so damn soulless nowadays. Everything is a rehash or a sequel instead of doing something interesting and original. The Incredibles, Ratatouille, Wall-E, were great and original movies. Now they're just making the fifth toy story movie.", "Or if they did the Angels with Filthy Souls film seen in Home Alone for real.", "For fun, I decided to see what this trailer would look like with some Hans Zimmer.\n\n[I am pleased with the results.](https://crossfade.io/#!/s4gf954isi)", "The reason people are so vile online is because they're out of punching distance.", "just make sure they dont check that suitcase at security in the spaceport", "I'm really not seeing it. That quote from Disney in the article is right in line with what the CCO said, it's the origin story of the action character that inspired the toys.", "There's no way him saying racial slurs on stage would not make national news.", ">being anything other than a Democrat \n\nThat's an awfully strange way to spell \"went on racist tirades about how he should be allowed to use the N-word\"", "Every trailer Disney puts out is the exact same as every other shitty, uninspired trailer they put out. \n\nClassic song everyone likes remade and slowly introduced. Same pacing. Same beats. Same everything.\n\nNot holding my breath for this one.", "What will the Slinky Dog movie be about?", "Go to horny jail", "I believe it’s an in-universe film that inspired the toy. The sci-fi technology is far and beyond the timeline in Toy Story.", "This looks pretty epic.", "But when are we going to get the slinky dog origin story???", "Yeah, I think it turns on your interpretation of “the hero who inspired the toy,” which (to me) reads as a real person, rather than an action film star. But agree to disagree until the actual movie comes out (which may also leave it open to interpretation). Either way, it wouldn’t be the weirdest thing that’s canon to the TS Universe if he IS real (since Kingdom Hearts 3 is canon).", "He was in Incredibles 2? Or do you mean Toy Story 4, which came out in 2019 and he sounded fine... I mean he sounded like Tim Allen. \n\nMore than likely they went with Evans because they wanted someone younger, someone with more star power and someone less controversial. All reasons to not have him headline your film, even if they put him in as a cameo somewhere.", "I want a woody Irgun story too! Like a western movie", "Could be a Ghostbusters type deal, where this is the in-universe movie which inspired the (also in-universe) cartoon, which the toy is based on.", "How good is Starman, though?", "wow.. it's the movie nobody asked for or wanted... \n\n\nWhat a cash grab.", "Damn, should have read the instructions", "Pretty sure the dude getting his panties in a bunch over a children's animated movie merely existing doesn't have any room to call someone else \"infantile\"", "No, please don't, or that'll make me feel old.", "My mother is going to love this, lol. My parent's bedroom is floor to ceiling Toy Story stuff because of Buzz.\n\nAnd yes, there are plenty of jokes about Buzz and Woody.", "We're getting a movie about a toy that was merchandise made for a movie that featured in another movie.", "It’s like if Neil Armstrong had a Sci-Fi kids show made with him as a character. Obviously fictional scenarios, but the character is named after, and based on, a real person. \n\nLightyear is the same concept, but it’s within the fictional universe of Toy Story to begin with.", "sir this is a Wendy’s", "Or how you end up getting mistaken for a UFO in July of 1969.", "If you think the falcon 9 is cool, just get ready for Starship. Supposed to make its first orbital launch next month if all goes according to plan.", "Woody will most likely get his own movie.", "not complaining? could be an awesome film just surprised is all", "They show the TV advert for the Buzz Lightyear toy in Toy Story 1 and there’s a Buzz video game in Toy Story 2. So there is some very loose established Buzz ‘canon’. I guess this movie could be a part of that.", "Notice the ship from Wall-E in this trailer?", "To infinity and what? Hate these trailer cliffhangers man.", "If he really did that, it would have been \non the news everywhere. Example: Mel Gibson.", "yeah, i just want to see like, a re-release of the original movie, but this trailer is stitched in somewhere in the background lol.", "Why? What did he do, make a joke that someone took offence at?", "Fuck you Pixar.\nI'm fully aware that this trailer is intended to sell nostalgia to millennials like me... And it's worked, I can't wait to see it.", "I AM ALLL FOR THIS!!!!", "He committed the heinous act of voicing support for Trump.", "Yes! And thanks to the other commenter who mentioned Coco.", "Love death robots was done by various studios, of them only one I can recall atm was blur studios", "There’s no way he’s not the main bad guy in this movie. We have no indication this is going to have a sequel either.", "Big Mouth too", "had me up until the absolutely unnecessary equality", "I'd think Tim Allen would not be a good fit for this style of movie though", "Personally I think it’s better they aren’t confined to that show’s already established universe. We get to see new characters and they can take it in any direction", "I wouldn't be surprised if it goes up in january, but still, very exciting times! Can't wait till B5 or B6 when they try catching the booster", "Going by statements from Pete Docter, this literally is the original movie in Andy's universe that the toys and cartoons are based off of. It seems like we can assume that, in-universe, it is live-action.", "Can we get a Pixar version of Jurassic Park for Rex and Trixie???", "They still make good stuff, but it's all TV series for Netflix.", "Worst part is the punch not knocking the guy out. Aldrin was a peak physical shape guy for decades of his life. Then he punches a pudgy little asshole and it barely phases him. \n\nNow he’s gonna go to his room knowing he lost his temper and probably would have lost a real fight to that Ass hole. \n\nFor a guy with pride like that it’s gotta be the worst part", "Star Wars is crazy about it’s established canon, and the people that make Star Wars explicitly say what is ‘canon’ and what isn’t. There’s no indication that this obscure tv show actually exists in the movies. \n\nIf you want to believe the tv show is canon, sure. You could just say the tv show was adapted from the movie. Just don’t expect this to reference some tv show.", "Remind me again please. What exactly were Luca, Soul, Onward, Coco, The Good Dinosaur, and Inside Out sequels or rehashes off? I must have totally missed them.\nIt's okay, I'll wait.", "I'm 28, and SOOOO EXCITED FOR THIS", "Are you basing that off of something Tim Allen has claimed or are you just one of those people who turns every discussion into a cryfest about Trump?\n\nDude was in Toy Story 4 in 2019 years after he endorsed Trump and was included in all the promotions for it.", ">one of those people who turns every discussion into a cryfest about Trump?\n\nThats hilarious coming from ideology champions of oppression Olympics.", "He said the phrase 'the n-word' is worse to him than \"nger\". He also said he regularly uses the word in his stand-up and thinks he should be allowed to say it as much as he wants. Then he started a new comedy TV show targeting conservative audience (making fun of liberals every episode) so it's just a grab bag of red flags.", "This is more like how Tom Hanks’ brother voices Woody in all the video games/theme park rides/toys. Tim Allen in the toy story universe is Jim Hanks", "It was on the news. That's how I heard about it years ago. But he wasn't directly targeting a black person with the word.", "Meh...", "I’m sad it’s not Patrick Warburton", "Lol. So that's a yes. . .", "Lol you are delusional", "Feel free to subscribe to any reality you wish. \n\nWho victimized you today? Old white man? Capitalist corporation down the street?", "Actually, you can throw Spirit in the Sky back to outer space. I know for sure it's in Contact. Anything with aliens... In the sky.", "Maybe you should log off and go outside. You're in a Buzz Lightyear comment section losing your mind over Trump and the libeeeeruhlll agenda. Have a bit of introspection.", "Welcome to reddit lol", "Looks like Mrs. Nesbitt.", "That base in the beginning shot looks like a tech taken from Teknoman/Tekkaman Blade.", "Playing second fiddle to Tom Hanks was lifting him up, not keeping him down.", "We both know you don't actually believe I'm losing my mind. \n\nFabricating weird scenarios just because I got the best of you in 2 comments and next to no effort. hah.", "Buzz Lightyear's name was in honor of Apollo 11 astronaut Edwin \"Buzz\" Aldrin, the second person to walk on the Moon. According to Pixar producers, the character was provisionally named Lunar Larry, but it sounded \"too wacky\", so while trying to rechristen him \"we went through some space terms and the word light-year came up, and the coolest astronaut name was Buzz Aldrin.\"\n\nConfused screaming*", "That's not what I'm referring to. In _Toy Story_, Buzz's backstory is established on the back of his toy box. When _Buzz Lightyear of Star Command_ came out, it was established that in the _Toy Story_ universe, there is a cartoon fleshing out that backstory, as the film starts with the toys literally sitting down to watch the cartoon. This further emphasizes Buzz Lightyear's nature as a toy/cartoon product along the lines of _Transformers_; i.e. the cartoon and the toys were conceived together, with the cartoon used to push sales of the toy. This is all completely fitting given the time period of the 1990s.\n\nHow some people are attempting to justify this new film's existence is by saying that, in the _Toy Story_ universe, it inspired the toy or the toy/cartoon joint venture. I don't buy that at all, because that's not how things worked back then. It's not even how things work now. It's not how things have ever worked.\n\nAnd on top of all that, this doesn't look like a kids' movie. Obviously it's intended as a family film, but this is completely something that, in the time period in which Andy would have been stoked to receive a Buzz Lightyear action figure, this would have been aimed at teenage boys and young men. In that regard, the female companion would have been Mira Nova, as she is more attractive to that audience (and incidentally, happens to be a very confident, well-written, self-possessed woman, characteristic of female action stars of the time like Sigourney Weaver). This is where 2020s culture intrudes into the film and further destroys the \"this is intended to be something Andy would have seen as a kid\" narrative.\n\nThis is just a modern film that happens to star a character we already know. Based solely on the trailer, you can swap out Buzz for Action Spaceman and it will be the same film.\n\nThis analysis is all based on one trailer so obviously it could be way off. We could discover that it's a more lighthearted comedy film typical of Disney/Pixar, in the vein of _Toy Story_. Mira Nova and XR and Booster might all be there in some form. The color palette might be more saturated. We don't know yet.", "The sad truth is that that little fella doesn't exist anymore. He's left and made place for the older version of himself which you have today. But damn if you wouldn't miss your little wee ones once in a while. Those moments you spent together and the completely unfettered and genuine joy they sometimes expressed at just seeing your face. They were once here with us, and now they're not. :(", "They’ve been asking since buzz got his own cartoon and game, shortly after toy story 2 was released.\n\nBuzz lightyear of star command", "This interview in 2013 with the Tampa Bay Times appears to be the source of the controversy. He didn’t say it in any show, but he thought it was odd that he’s not allowed to say it. At least that’s what I think he’s saying. Read the last 2 or 3 paragraphs, it’s very disjointed and rambling.\n\nhttps://www.tampabay.com/tim-allen-talks-the-n-word-disliking-kids-and-the-work-of-standup-comedy/2133253/", "I mean they already replaced him a year after Toy Story 2. Patrick Warburton played Buzz in the animated show.", "Because he had a cartoon and videogame in the mid to late 2000’s", "\"Pull my yarn Buzz\"", "ummm yes please. R rated Starcraft movie staring Buzz Lightyear... sure!", "Yeah. You don't sound crazy at all. My mistake. You really showed me. I feel so owned right now.", "This is so confusing to me. Isn’t buzz a toy? What the fuck is this, a dream?", "Wasn't he married to an Imam for the last several decades?\n\nEd: it was a joke!", "I'm sure this will be a great movie but it's hard to feel attached to the character without Tim Allen's voice. It's an imposter. Whatever, I'll probably enjoy it.", "Ahhhhhh I see, you're one of those \"kids these days have it so different!\" types. You must realize that kids are exposed to a much media as their parents allow right? Just because there's more content out there for kids doesnt mean they will see all of it. So many hours in the day and whatnot. Disney, Batman, Spiderman, Transformers, TMNT, these are all things that date back to the 70s or earlier and kids went wild over it all\n\nMoana isnt the Lion King to you. But it is and will be for an entire generation, and I don't think theres as much cultural ADHD as you seem to think, or at least it ain't anything new", "A Spoony reference? It's been so long. Hello fellow internet old person.", "He also doubled down on it on The View and said even worse things. That's not the entire controversy.", "Jesse, what the hell are you talking about", "The difference is that Tom Segura is joking and Tim Allen is a Trump supporter who is doing it to piss off liberals aka black people.", "Jimmy Page is still alive if you wanna start a crusade", "And shouted at the moon with liz lemon", "starman starts playing* \n\nSon of a bitch I’m in!", "https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdBeJNrWAAE20ff?format=jpg&name=medium", "Pixar presents Star Wars Gate", "I'm suprised we haven't heard Tim Allen bitchin about all this like he did back when he's show was cancelled by ABC and he came out as a Trumper", "Some irrelevant guy leaded by the strong, independent, black woman, an actual hero. Would watch!", "Well....... Soul..... Luca......", "Didn't Disney cancel a bunch of Star Wars projects because it started to become a toxic brand when Solo flopped?", "Kek", "Space Odyssey must be the only space song in existence", "Im not one of those anything. Its a fact that the world changes very rapidly and if you think a life with and without the internet isnt different, youre a moron.", "yeah that makes a lot of sense. Hit blockbuster film followed by the spin-off TV series that spawns the range of toys and other collectables.", "Even so, of course I still love you.", "It’s 6:06 EST. \n\nTired after work.\n\nDiscovered this trailer.\n\nHollering like a madwoman.\n\nInb4 concerned neighbors. I apologize in advance.", "I really feel like the trailer would have been more dramatic without the really bad Starman cover. I like the industrial space look of the setting.", "Yea, that double down definitely worked.", "I mean, there's a pretty sizeable section in the middle of the Venn Diagram for Nazis and Trump supporters.", "Yo the spaceship company better have ties to buy n large", "Spirit in the Sky is definitely more of a sportsball movie song.", "Yeah no, dude is addicted to using the n word. Your bias is showing. A quick check proved my suspicions too. /r/walkaway lmao", "We’re saying the same thing.", "But will it have the Pizza Planet truck?", "I hope the first scene is Andy and his friends finding their seats in the theater, then the movie starts and the camera zooms in to show us, the viewer, a full screen view of the movie. Then the final scene is Andy and his friends piling out of the theater and going home.", "The Pixar universe already is. All the movies take place in the “same” universe.", "You said real life astronaut, but Buzz Lightyear isn't a real person in the Toy Story universe. He's not like Buzz Aldrin, more like GI Joe or Flash Gordon", "How meta!\n\nA movie based on a character in a movie, which was based on the character in this movie.\n\nMy head hurts.", "If it didn't you wouldn't be complaining.", "Well sometimes they are vile in person because they don't realize that a 72 year old man can take them in a fist fight.", "Beyond.", "Right. Real life within the Toy Story universe, like Andy. Not like a toy.", "I don't really do a lot of online gaming _except_ for VR table tennis. It absolutely blows my mind the level of inhumanity I see on a daily basis. Like, if I had you over as an acquaintance to my house for a game of ping pong and I beat you would you threaten to rape my mother? No? Then why do you do it online? And from everything that I understand the VR table tennis community is _nothing_ compared to ball sacking games like Call of Duty or whatever.", "Best part is when they show the curvature of the sun despite him flying ridiculously close to it", "I wonder if there will be a Woody cameo.", "Was that the last good movie? I feel like it was. Which is said, cause I'm old too.", "It seems really dumb to take the main appeal of Toy Story, toys in the real world coming to life, and remove all of that and turn it into another lifeless animated whatever. No one will remember this film 10 years from now, but people will still talk about Toy Story.", "Well, if that's the case...\n\nPixar, can we get a full series of Woody's Roundup?", "You’re full of shit, the last bunch of Disney movies have been huge.", "That one sounds like a stretch.", "Stop, I can only get so erect.", "When the kid learns about star wars", "Make it like Red Dead Redemption and I'm in", "The movie will end and it will just be a kid playing with his toys and imagination.", "Yep, the in-universe movie and the toy can co-exist as two separate things. It's like Woody's Roundup in Toy Story 2.", "Such a shame that those songs are now being used to sell shit.", "A real life MOVIE within the Toy Story universe. So FTL does not exist.", "I don’t believe their movies are aimed at kids. When I see movies like Coco, Ratatouille, Up and Wall-E, I see very well produced, very deep movies that happen to also be appropriate for all ages. I am just as happy to watch these movies as my two year old.", "Freeze framing on every wide shot, the buildings look great and a little like toys would be maybe? The closeup shots are a little cartoon-y, buttons are large enough to be pushed with big cartoon-sized fingers, radios only have one button, etc. Really interesting style and very beautiful futuristic 'stuff'.", "The girls alleged that they were more than willing participants in what amounts to statutory rape, yes. They described persuading Bowie to have sex with them. Legally it's wrong. Morally it may also be wrong. Statutory rape of underaged girls (and to a lesser extent boys) gets ignored by the courts on a regular basis without extenuating circumstances. Just about every sexually active high school relationship between two consenting teens results in a period where statutory rape is being committed.", "My kid is super into Buzz Lightyear. \n\nPlus he's just learning to talk, so everything is \"Bzzzz\".\n\nYoutube is \"Bzzzz pppeease\"\n\nPick a cartoon or show, \"Bzzzz\" and its always Toy Story or those shorts on Disney Plus. \n\nSo I bought him out of those Mirrorverse Buzz Lightyears by McFarland Toys. \n\nIt will be cool to see this movie with him. Maybe in theater. If not I may dish out the $30 to watch it when it comes.", "[I..uhh, ok.](https://c.tenor.com/og-x4tu7d80AAAAC/uh-but.gif)", "Iman, a Somali-American model, not a Muslim leader.", "Holy fuck. When will it end. I’m so fucking sick of these cheap lazy nostalgia cash grabs.", "It looks like it'll be fun and exciting for children, especially for the ones who love Buzz Lightyear.", "This movie is gonna make some serious bank.", "He's been doing it for years now, so yeah.", "From Pete Docter (Chief Creative Officer at Pixar):\r \n\r \nAt first glance, you might think, 'this is a Toy Story film.' Well, not so fast! See, back when we created the first Toy Story, we designed Buzz Lightyear with the idea that he was a toy based on some really cool character from an epic blockbuster film. Well, all these years later we decided it's time to make that film.\r \n\r \nSource: https://www.vulture.com/2020/12/chris-evans-to-voice-buzz-lightyear-in-new-pixar-prequel.html", "From Pete Docter (Chief Creative Officer at Pixar):\n\nAt first glance, you might think, 'this is a Toy Story film.' Well, not so fast! See, back when we created the first Toy Story, we designed Buzz Lightyear with the idea that he was a toy based on some really cool character from an epic blockbuster film. Well, all these years later we decided it's time to make that film.\n\nSource: [https://www.vulture.com/2020/12/chris-evans-to-voice-buzz-lightyear-in-new-pixar-prequel.html](https://www.vulture.com/2020/12/chris-evans-to-voice-buzz-lightyear-in-new-pixar-prequel.html)", "> If it were a real person that inspired the toy then Andy must live in the freaking holodeck.\n\nHence the progressive graphical improvements from movie to movie.", "So in-universe, is this movie animated as well, or “live action?” 🤔", "Let’s not kid ourselves, this is just the nostalgia meat grinder churning out more gruel", "chris nolan batman, animated batman, action figure batman", "Of course. That actually makes sense. If it were what the other guy said Andy would be living in a more futuristic world.", "> So he's from a sci-fi franchise in the toy story universe.\n\nMr. Nolan?", "it's like we get to see the movie that's the same movie that Andy would have seen, which is cool. Buzz is still a fictional character both in our reality and in the universe of the original TS movie. but now we get to appreciate the sort of backstory/context that would have made that character a desirable kids action figure.\n\nlike if Star Trek wasn't a thing, nobody would give a shit about some action figure of some bald dude in a skin-tight outfit lol.", ">to act like there's now space travel, sci-fi leveled technologies, and even alien life\n\nThere's parts of the world, right now, that have electricity for 2 hours a day. And places where you need a router with MIMO because you have over a hundred IoT in your home. These exist simultaneously. You see?", "This is a movie about the space ranger who fights emporor Zerg, it's just that the space ranger is a fictional character in Andy's universe, not an actual person.", "[Look, I'm a kitten with a whip!](https://youtu.be/aRyu510X30k)", "I just came.", "Ah, that’s just as cool!", "I can say, at this moment, I have never before wanted to see a movie as much as I want to see this one.\n\nI don’t know if it’s the music or having context from Toy Story or that it’s Pixar, but, I really, really, really want to watch it.", "Looks like the Doomslayer I hope someone mods this skin into Eternal killing demons as buzz would kinda be awesome", "Yeah IMHO this movie would be optimal at PG-13, but chances are good I'm still gonna enjoy it even at G/PG.", "Iz anyone elze hopin dat the cowboy umie git gets his own western movie?", "No idea why but when I was younger, Buzz Lightyear was cool as fuck in Toy Story. Toss on the fact that he had his one VHS and later a cartoon series. Buzz was pretty cool. When this movie releases, I will watch it because I like Buzz Lightyear.", "THIS LOOKS SICKKKKKK", "I didn't know that I needed this movie. 39yo", "Dang, yeah, this exactly", "i thought it was Mrs Nesbitt", "“Haha you enjoy a thing!”\nThat’s you. Thats what you sound like. You poor sad soul.", "It makes sense though in universe, Tim's voice was the cartoon character's voice where as this is the movie that inspires the cartoon/toy line. While it would certainly be possible the actor from the movie would voice the cartoon character as well (and therefore the doll) it's pretty rare to see that happen IRL so it makes sense that it wouldn't here.", "Maybe a better take.", "“The slingshot maneuver is all we’ve got”", "Toy Story 4 wasnt that long ago though", "How quaint.\n\nHeiejsnsoebejdhwnambdksodebsbsjdudbsnxjxihsbsnzkidhebskzidgsbebrbudixjsndnoxoskaalalwpwiwuwyebebxnxowjebthsixowlqk RETURN\n\nEdit: and then you say “transparent aluminum?” Because you watched the movie and found that scene hilarious.", "Umm please tell me it’s actually Tim Allen voicing him I bet she’s dirt cheep too now never works", "No, you're saying the opposite thing to him. This is a fictional movie within the fictional universe of toy story. To Andy this is a fictional movie.", "Mines voiced by Otm Shank", "If there is no cameos/references to Princess Mara or XR, I'ma flip ships. \n\n\nA LOT OF THEM", "More like his estate making financial decisions now that Bowie is no longer around to keep them in check and hinder profits.", "Applying the logic of “a toy wont sound exactly like the movie” to a pixar movie is a strange idea to run with still imo. Im still excited though.", "next woody will have his own movie watch and see.", "The new Star Wars looks cool", "According to this interview with one of the creators of the show, Pixar didn't like the show and didn't want it to be considered the tie in.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0kBEJjbSZE", "Disney thanks you for your consumerism.", "To me it seems like something else. To me it seems like a complete standalone universe that is only connected to Toy Story on a meta level. The art style here is clearly inspired by the toy, while humans in Toy Story looks fairly normal and Disney-like. So it really wouldn't be something Andy would watch.\n\nAnd while I understand that art styles are flexible and don't follow rules, if the goal was for this to represent and in-universe live-action movie, I feel like characters wouldn't look so much like toys.\n\nTo me, this is something that Buzz the toy sees in his head before he has his \"toy awakening\".", "He just went home.", "Maybe the movies, but DS9 was 7 years away from starting at that point.", "> they'd break off a separate studio rather than have adult content intermingle with Pixar and blemish the VERY child-friendly image there\n\nBasically what [\"Touchstone Pictures\"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchstone_Pictures) used to be back in the 1980s/90s/00s.", "Probably for the best. Tim Allen is a real asshole, doesn’t deserve the work.", "Exactly how I saw it in my head!", "I don't see the point.\n\nThe entire rationale / marketing behind the movie seems to be \"remember that?\". So, like every other movie coming out now.", "He's alive and a recognizable voice. He will be I. The movie.", "Buzz Lightyear from toy Story was an action figure based off a fictional version of this character. It's like if we made Neil Armstrong into this mythic character and made a cartoon about him punching aliens and saving the galaxy. The real Neil Armstrong still exists even if there's a cartoon about him doing wacky shit.", "Shut up and take my money!", "Interstellar vibes", "Nah, Star Trek First Contact is great and it's only, checks dates, 25 years old...", "As Jason Nesmith.", "I don't mean the stand-up routine, I mean him defending white people using the n word. He does that ever few years. He REALLY likes to use it.", "I wonder if it had to do with him being a Trump guy.", "I like to fill in plot holes, so here’s my guess:\n\nBuzz was already a well known astronaut, and what seemed to be his “last” mission was him actually successfully traveling to the future (unknown to those in the present, who thought he was killed in the attempt). Buzz was then able to communicate with “the past” briefly, and that’s how they know what his ship and spacesuit look like. The news was so incredibly widespread and popular in Andy’s time that they made a line of toys.\n\nThe technology Buzz uses after the mission seems futuristic because it is. It won’t actually exist for decades/hundreds of years. Humanity knows that it’s possible, but Buzz couldn’t maintain communication with the past and explain specifically how to achieve it.\n\nI put way too much thought into this.", "As the spacecraft mechanic. There's bound to be a Binford 6100 FTL drive on there.", "Hahahaha, I remember that episode. Good times.", "I wonder who his father is...", "We literally have a secondary Hanks for Woody Toys. Jim Hanks does the voice for the toys.", "In the toy story universe there should not be a buzz light year traveling to different planets and meeting aliens. That makes no sense. It takes place in a world that mirrors ours cmon you know that", "Honestly with the way this movie is framed the change of voice actors makes sense in a kind of genius way. \n\nThis is meant to be the franchise that spawned the toy line the Toy Story Buzz is from, right? If toys are given unique voice lines that have to be recorded separately (same goes for virtually any small-scale project using the character’s voice) it’s not uncommon from what I’ve heard for the original actor to not do it and for them to have a cheaper sound-alike do it. Heck, it even happened for Toy Story with Jim Hanks voicing Woody for some things.\n\nWhat if, in this universe, a character with Tim Allen’s voice was that cheap sound-alike and as a result the Buzz Lightyear toy had his voice?", "I'm the first one, but... you can't tell me that a western movie with the same tone as this, featuring Woody, Jesse, Bullseye, and Stinky Pete wouldn't be pretty badass.", "Unfortunately it's not a prequel since it directly contradicts the canon of the show with just what's been shown so far, seems like it will be completely separate", "24 years old and this made me cry tears of joy", "I mean... yeah, that pretty much sums it all up. Well said.", "try making the costume from paper mache or something lol", "I don’t think so. The wiki seems to be saying that this is “real life” events in Andy’s world that inspired a toy company to make toys. Not a movie that Andy would be going to.", "Ha I get that reference! Live long and prosper.", "They have no new ideas - fuck em", "D'YA GET IT?! D'YA SEE THE HELMET?! I... AM BUZZ LIGHTYEAR!! HAHAHOOHOOHEEHEEHAHA...", "Seriously. Damn.", "Got it. So Docter didn’t clarify what the wiki said, he refuted it.", "I always imagined buzz would be bald but other than that this movie gives me childlike joy I haven't felt in years", "They’re not the same, but it’s a difference of degree, not of substance.", "[relevant](https://i.imgflip.com/5s2nn3.jpg)", "Fortunate Sun is basically the default music to be played in any movie or video game when there is helicopter scene. It is basically such a meme at this point that in most games with helicopters people will start playing the song through voice chat when they are riding in the helicopter", "Did I just see a Empire Strikes Back reference in there with the swamp scene?", "Too much LDS.", "The Martian off the top of my head.", "It all comes around like the circle of life.", "His mother called him that once.... Once", "I can bet that there will be a small cameo where someone gives him a buzz light year doll with Tim Allen doing the lines and they make the joke \"that doesnt sound like me at all\"", "I wish I could show this movie to 8 year old me", "thanks fam lol. saw lots of comments in here that were just way off base, so i felt like i had to be thorough.", "Right? It piqued my interest while not spelling out the whole damn plot and sampling every important scene.", "This whole trailer feel like one of those “this image goes hard feel free to screenshot” images", "except G.I. Joe is the other way around. They created the toys first and then the movies and TV shows came out after the toys were popular. This would be more like power rangers where the show came first then the toys", "That was a week or two after he spoke at a local university. He insisted on front row seats for the local rocketry club. He took pictures and talked to all of us. It was very cool.", "Wow Disney just became even more whorish", "[Well it's certainly not national news but he has talked about it in interviews](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tampabay.com/tim-allen-talks-the-n-word-disliking-kids-and-the-work-of-standup-comedy/2133253/%3foutputType=amp)", "BOWIE!!!!!! I dig the music choice", "I was thinking that as well! reminds me of the swamp and x wing", "They can always do a reboot.", "I heard he fucked rabbis too", "Maybe we can all hear his very well informed opinions on evolution while he's at it", "Not the worst wank I've ever had.", "This movie is a fictional movie within the Toy Story universe.\n\nA simpler way of explaining it is that this movie is fictional to Andy. So it’s 2 layers of fiction to us.", "Hard", "YOU! ARE! A TOY!", "\"FLY HER APART THEN!\"", "well yeah, it's just the show that buzz is from. not even THE show, rather A movie. it's just some look into the possible franchise that might have given birth to the action figure in Toy Story", "I don't know about that. The cinematography and feel of this world looks like they're trying to make an animated kid's movie with the same feel as a Denis Villeneuve sci-fi movie, Ad Astra, The Martian, or Interstellar or something. That's an interesting move for Pixar.", "Space is just for the wealthy to escape a climate collapsed Earth.", "A 1:34 trailer is a \"teaser\"?", "alright negative nancy", "This whole trailer seems to be purposefully hiding the fact that Tim Allen is not playing Buzz Lightyear anymore.", "From Pete Docter* (Chief Creative Officer at Pixar):\n\nAt first glance, you might think, 'this is a Toy Story film.' Well, not so fast! See, back when we created the first Toy Story, we designed Buzz Lightyear with the idea that he was a toy based on some really cool character from an epic blockbuster film. Well, all these years later we decided it's time to make that film.\n\nedit: here's the source too https://www.vulture.com/2020/12/chris-evans-to-voice-buzz-lightyear-in-new-pixar-prequel.html", "No Tim Allen?", "Sooooo he’s not a toy?", "Ahh, the prequels before he becomes /r/cumonfigurines", "Stop posting this! I don't fucking care and I'm not watching it!", "Got it. I thought you were trying to say that he’s clarified what the wiki said, but he actually refuted it. I appreciate the legwork there.", "That could be the last scene. Camera pulls back and young Andy is watching the movie we just watched. He calls out to his mum about wanting a buzz action figure for his birthday.", "Did not expect a Star Trek 4 reference here. Well done. Well done.", "On the other hand, Apollo 13 had a [whole scene featuring \"Spirit in the Sky\"](https://youtu.be/_MMecOeC3e4) so there is some genre crossover.", "I never said the internet didn't change things, but it certainly did absolutely nothing to stop Disney's chokehold over children's media, the only difference is now you just download the movies to your computer instead of going to the video store", "And then the \"true story\" that the action movie was based on.", "This movie has no right to look this good", "Me too. I really like it. It's nice.", "Haha… Tim Allen will make as much of this movie as I do.", "Reminds me of Incredibles 2 and the Incredibles: Rise of the Underminer game I used to have as a kid. I was really surprised when it picked up where the first movie left off.", "Good ole George and Gracie", "AND WHAT?!", "What space race?", "Garbage", "They have literally released 3 “original idea” movies since their last sequel and will have another come out before Lightyear. \n\nOnward. Soul. Luca. Turning Red.", ">And yet all my action figures had the same voice/lines as their movie/show counterparts\n\nThis movie could be a movie in the Toy Story universe and maybe it's a reboot of the old show that the Buzz Lightyear toys shown in the Toy Story series were based on.\n\nIt's possible that a Buzz Lightyear toy based on this new version could pop up in future Toy Story movies and shorts, with him being voiced by Chris Evans and the old Buzz being Voiced by Tim Allen.\n\nAlso, fun thought: Tim Allen and Chris Evans could be the in universe voices for their respective iterations of Buzz Lightyear movies/videogames/toys just as they are in reality.", "multiple companies and organizations competing for contracts for space stations, moon landers, mars landers, recyclable rockets, etc.", "Pixar did not make zootopia.", "\"Buzz Lightyear is hot\" is a sentence I never expected to say", "The fuck? Why?", "Hmmm. Sounds more like competition for a very finite set of resources rather than a race to reach certain milestones.", "also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQKVdVqFZv0", "It's a great movie but I don't like the Borg Queen. She goes against what makes the Borg so terrifying.", "Yeah, do they have any GOOD ideas?!", "How far away is the Reptar movie?", "They already hinted at it in the trailer", "I thought they meant [this guy](https://i.imgur.com/bha2M95.png) at first, but when I went back to get the screengrab I got a closer look and realized probably not.", "But hes a toy!", "Anybody else get a Dagobah vibe in a couple of shots?", "that's very pessimistic", "First Mario, now Buzz.", "Yeah", "based", "Depends, you got any material to get it up?", "Cool, Cool, we’re doing Patrick Warburton erasure now", "oh man. Going in the download folder", "Sure however toy story takes place in the unitesatates and in the real world the unitedstates is the best nation at space flight at the moment, and we do not publicly admit to haveing FTL travel (or more likey even have it) for a toy to exist a country would need to publicly admit FTL travel because it seems he got his iconic suit dureing his trip to the stars and came back with it. \n\nSure Toy story is fiction so maybe he lives on an earth where the unitedstates gained faster then light travel in the 90s but all other technology stayed the same but that's stupid, if it was the case the a alien would have been seen or mentioned. Most likey vanity misunderstood what Pixar told them.", "Doesn't matter what else comes out next in 2022, this is going to be my #1 movie for the year.\n\nThankfully Dune part 2 is 2023 or I'd feel really bad about it.", "Him addressing the issue head-on is much different than casually dropping it, or just throwing it randomly into a punch line. I think that's fair territory. Sure, it can cause controversy, but context is key when mentioning it.", "This movie is meta AF", "I mean, we found him a costume and it wasn't really that hard. It was more just a moment of realization that finding nemo has been out for over two decades and that there are L.ost 20 years worth of other things that kids want to dress up as. And also that there will always be \"sexy\" costumes.of just about everything.", "You can’t go even a million miles near the sun before you burn up, why can’t they get this right ?", "Teasers are so much fucking better than Trailers, holy fucking shit.", "Yeah why did this actually look sick, like holy shit this children’s movie trailer was strangely action packed", "Imagine Buzz punching him in his prime years... bet the guy would just die on the spot.", "I'm in.", "This is actually a good move. It's expanding on the universe instead of making another film in the same context.", "Raya would have been an amazing TV show, that movie SCREAMED for an episodic adaptation.", "But an obscenely gritty revenge western.", "I mean, he did Toy Story 1-4. This isn't a Toy Story movie, but a side story of who/what Buzz Lightyear is. Toy Story sub story I suppose. But I too, was expected Tim Allen's voice. I was wondering what the next Toy Story, story line would be. I was talking to a friend at work and we thought the best way to go would have been to do a prequel telling the story of Andy's Dad. Which I feel is needed to confirm the \"Andys Dad\" theory that he died of complications from his childhood disease early on as an adult.", "Dang does this retcon Buzz Lightyear of Star Command: The Adventure Begins?", "This looks so ass", "I watched this movie only recently. Good movies appeal to all ages!", "Live action, starring Tom Hanks", "Some people say it's anonymity but I have always likened online gaming to driving. All you see is a car, or a game asset representing a person but you don't see a person.", "Anonymity with extra steps", "Disappointed in the lack of blue Shego. 😂😂😂", "uhh err...uhh..he's going really fast, so he's very massive, so uh...gravitational lensing.\n\nThere, I can write for Hollywood now.", "Yes... white males are so mistreated by cinema lol... \n\nThe victim complex yall have haha\n\nThere's one brief appearance by a black female character in a movie about a white male character that's got like 4 previous movies with white male leads, side characters, villains, comic relief, whatever in each one with very very few black female characters. Instead of being like huh, i might have to share a tiny bit of my huuuuge cut you go NOOOOO IT SHOULD ALL BE ABOUT ME", "is tim allen doing the voice?", "Still just a child’s play thing", "People who think the president is in charge of gas prices (not saying you) are the dumbest mfs on earth", "Venture Bros, which starts off weak, but man, it ramps up.", "BRING ME GOD EMPORER ZURG", "I did like German Bowie at the end of JoJo Rabbit.", "It was also really well edited into the trailer.", "Agreed. That genuinely did work.", "is toy story a universe where we can all just break the laws of physics? because i've never seen that in toy story beside the toys themselves talking and stuff, which is nothing like flying around a star the size of a mountain and getting inches away from the surface without instantly dying\n\nBuzz Lightyear has to be a fictional character within the Toy Story universe. They made the Lightyear movie after Sputnik and the space race just like we made star wars and everything after we went to the moon.", "I mean, again, [Kingdom Hearts 3 is canon to the Toy Story Universe.](https://gamerant.com/kingdom-hearts-3-pixar-toy-story-canon/) I think anything is possible at that point.\n\nI don’t know that Buzz HAS to be anything. I think it could swing either way, and we won’t know until the movie comes out... or until Pixar/Disney provide further clarification.", ":D", "So they're gonna release toys that look like this now?", "Yup, this wasn't a Cramer level situation.", "Antz remembers.", "Yeah I mean if you know clownfish biology, you know the sexual undertones of why his dad was actually looking for him/her", "We need more Elton John Rocket Man", "And you have access to literally everything they make in a button press. People werent capable of renting every movie in the video store and certainly werent buying that many", "You’re looking for “Sympathy for the Devil” for the Stones.", "So what you are saying is the stories that stand the test of time are the ones that are based on mythological stories? That's interesting, I'd like to learn more.", "Oh man, here I was complaining about the single stage to orbit and I totally missed that obvious part.", "Chris Evans.", "Cars are a weird one. People feel anon in their cars as one would be anon at home, yet if you get in a crash it's \"you hit me\" rather than \"my car.\"", "That would involve having facts and reality behind your political beliefs which we all know is not a republican trait.\n\nWorst they usually have is the pulling out our troops which was Trump's plan as well or the drone strikes which guess again who did them far many more times.", "Not the Sun but a different system’s star?", "Implying Pixar struggled to make original content? They don't give all their movies sequels. They just have a real hard-on for Toy Story for some reason. I'm convinced they'll be making Toy Story content forever.", "Single stage to orbit rockets capable of circling the sun are something we won't have for probably centuries, lol.\n\nAt the end of the day, gravity is a bitch and unless you can nullify it, you're not getting out of Earth atmosphere without a massive booster.\n\nBut it's also a world with live, sentient toys, so who the fuck knows.", "Wishful thinking upon a little star", "Move that goalpost! You said new ideas in your first post. Now you're asking for good ideas.\n\nGo pitch some good ideas if you think they need some help. I'm sure they'd love to hear what you've got!", "He jumped into the system and then went into supercruise thats all", "r/sighsunzips", "The Nazis actually began the pogroms that the Trump supporters fantasize about.\n\nThey hear \"First they came for the socialists\" and sigh wistfully.", "So wild theory, but, look at Buzz' chest right after they cut from the suit. That logo looks AWFULLY similar to the Weyland Corporation logo. So, now that Disney owns the rights to 20th century fox, what would stop them from adding aliens to this movie", "This is a BRIGHT idea", "Doesn't change what I said at all", "I thought that was going to be the Richard Spenser GIF, and in a way it sorta was.", "me gusto mucho el trailer y la animación y será una película interesante", "NGL going to be a massive missed opportunity if buzz Aldrin doesn't make a cameo.", "i had a unique first look at this trailer through a blind click through: as the trailer progressed i was down with the film. cringed a bit at the remixed bowie, then things started to click into place a bit before the lightyear suit. IMMEDIATELY went “oh jesus” and clicked out before the trailer had the potential chance of saying “ starring Timothée Chalamet as Buzz”", "If this is an original/risky idea that they pitched a tie-in for to help greenlight it, I'm okay with that.", ">He's dead now\n\n\nHolup, he what?", "It makes sense that tim Allen is not doing the voice. This is the in universe inspiration for the in universe fictional character of buzz lightyear. What historical figure would do the voice over for a fictional character based on themselves?", "Maybe they're different people?", "I'm more talking about JJ Abrams and Alex Kurtzman Trek, but you're right. I still consider everything up to, and including, Enterprise as classic Trek. And while the TNG movies sometimes get criticized those were still pretty good too.", "This feels completely unnecessary", "https://inception.davepedu.com/", "Haha! We solved it!", "Right??? I havent watched a Pixar film since Toy Story 3 and this has me feeling some sort of way", "sup cunts.\n\nYour mate from Australia here", "So is this Lightyear going to be as dumb as the Buzz from TS4?", "From my understanding, Buzz is a fictional character inside of the Toy Story universe and the action figure is based on him. Andy, the kid with all the toys, would have likely watched This film and bought the toy from the Toy Story movies.", "I love the references of Star Wars etc.", "What you said doesnt matter because its irrelevant. We arent talking about what disneys market share is, we are talking about the quality of their kids movies.", "Yeah but I'd watch Woody's roundup, it's already got a bangin sound track", "Yeah but I'd watch Woody's roundup, it's already got a bangin sound track", "I hope this comes out June 15th.\n\nToy story 3 and 4 did, June 15th is my birthday. Imagine my happiness for watching the movies from my childhood coming out on my birthday", "But would a child Andy be going to see this movie or an adult Andy? Like are they rebooting Buzz Lightyear by giving him a gritty origin story to milk of all the people who grew up with Buzz Lightyear?", "Buzz Lightyear is real character who had a movie based on him which had sci-fi elements. This is that movie. This will inspire a cartoon series and a toy line.\n\n\nImagine if Neil Armstrong had a movie based on him that shows that earth had super advance tech, thatd be buzz Lightyear.", "Now I wish we just got an animated Ziggy Stardust movie", "Wow that looks amazing for something that came out in 2013. Never played it, how was the story?", "I'd watch it. I'm concerned that it isnt Tim Allen voicing this, but I figure if he encounters a Future ruled by Emperor Zerg and time travels back to the past, crashing in Nevada, and creating the Toy line to secretly fund a research project and create a time loop out of his own reality it might be interesting.", "So is Anthony Kiedis, I read on here not too long ago.", "A time travelling buzz lightyear who winds up trapped in the past after a conflict with Emperor Zerg and creates a toy line to fund repairs to his time ship.", "I can’t tell if I want this to be a legit question or a joke, but either way goddamn it’s hilarious.", "Yeah I think their names are Buzz Aldrin and Noel Armstrong", "Or “ ohh a Pixar movie “", "didn't know i wanted this so much.", "CCR's \"Run Through The Jungle\" sends its regards.", "[I just had to do it](https://i.ibb.co/0QDYWFJ/9e1c37a2-6544-47dd-8293-4a92491ad7e0.jpg)", "Soooo Why didnt they get Tim Allen to voice Buzz?", "I would look at creating a field around the ship so it has an apparent albedo of 0.999999999999999 resulting in a operational temperature of 157K at 0.0000001AU.", "So he went to Dagobah right? I'm pretty sure he was in Dagobah. Anyone?", "Is that really how he got the nickname?", "He’s trying to save gas and save Matt Damon", "I wonder the chronology of this in the Toy Story universe. Did this movie inspire the toy or vice versa?", "Hello friend,\n\nI am glad that you've taken an interest in this! I'd be happy to flesh out some of these ideas - but the aforementioned intellectuals, most notably J. Campbell, cover this topic extensively if you really want to dive into it. His book \"The Hero with a Thousand Faces\" is really good!\n\n>The Hero with a Thousand Faces (first published in 1949) is a work of comparative mythology by Joseph Campbell, in which the author discusses his theory of the mythological structure of the journey of the archetypal hero found in world myths.\n\n* From Wikipedia\n\nThe structure of mythology and that of archetypes is what's ultimately important here. Think of your Luke Skywalker's and Harry Potter's, your Old Ben Kenobi's and Professor Dumbledore's, your Darth Vader's and your Severance Snape's, your Ron Weasley and Hermione Granger's alongside C3PO and R2-D2's - if you've ever considered how similarly some of these stories are structured, it is because they are packed with archetypical characters and motifs. Much like the red pill from the Matrix and the apple from the garden of Eden; when you gain knowledge, your initial realizations are your own insufficiencies. This is when what you have to do becomes known to you - and avoiding the resolution, no matter how difficult, would be akin to a descent into hell, like the story of Jonah and the whale. That myth is very, very old, and you see it creep up everywhere. Both Luke [Skywalker] and Harry [Potter], and Neo for that matter, are afraid of the opposing evil forces in their respective stories - but they are all way more afraid of the consequences that follow as a result of their inactions, and that's what pushes them forward. \n\nThese \"characters\" are hundreds and even thousands of years old. It doesn't take long to draw similarities between the comic-book character 'Superman' and the Abrahamic figure Jesus Christ. The archetype of the hero, the foreign child raised by earthly parents under the guidance of his heavenly father who saves us from malevolence at the expense of his own sacrificial nature. And, again, you can follow that thread even further back to the Egyptian God Horus - the virgin son of Isis, born on December 25th, with 12 disciples and an eastern star to boot, who's battle with his evil uncle Sept would result in his demise into the underworld, before his inevitable resurrection at dawn. You can follow the thread even further if you'd like, all the way back to the Enuma Elish - not to mention that there's plenty of iterations that have evolved from the king's evil counterpart as well (Sept in Egyptian Mythology, Satan in Abrahamic religions, The King's brother in Hamlet, Grimma Wormtongue in Tolkien's LOTR, Scar from The Lion King, etc.) These are all archetypical characters found in mythological stories and they're all evolutions of each other. Sort of like standing on the shoulders of giants, they build upon the myth and expand the literature the same way humans and animals have evolved in nature. The greatest stories are just this - top of the food chain, evolved species of mythology. The better your adaptation, the higher the odds that your genes will live on to become the next myth that gets re-told - and the evolution continues! These are not different stories - they're the same stories, just evolved with the same exact archetypes. \n\nI hope this doesn't come off simply as some promotion of religion, because that's not what I'm advocating for. Religious text is mythological by definition, because they are all heavily reliant on the use of archetypes. The Gods of Greek mythology were \"real\" once, as I'm sure you know, before only being referred to as archetypical characters within stories. The Bible is a great collection of mythological stories - it's sort of like the Wikipedia of mythology, since it's a bunch of hyper-linked material that goes back thousands of years to reference some of the earliest forms of literature historians have been able to discover. That's why it's easy to use the Bible when referring to mythological stories, because it's a giant collection of them! This is also why Christians always seem to manage linking everything back to the Bible, at the cost of annoying critics of religion. Whether they realize this themselves or not, it's not a far stretch and hardly revolutionary - that's how all literature evolves over time. \n\n>Christopher Vogler, a Hollywood film producer and writer, wrote a memo for Disney Studios on the use of The Hero with a Thousand Faces as a guide for scriptwriters; this memo influenced the creation of such films as Aladdin (1992), The Lion King (1994), and Beauty and the Beast (1991). Vogler later expanded the memo and published it as the book The Writer's Journey: Mythic Structure For Writers, which became the inspiration for a number of successful Hollywood films and is believed to have been used in the development of the Matrix series.\n\nIt's really fascinating stuff - highly recommend reading more about it if you're interested! I am not sure why I got downvoted so much for mentioning this, but I think it's super cool, and maybe you do, too!", "Just looked it up Chris Evans is voicing Buzz", "He couldn't have been all that close to the sun, or his spacecraft would have simply melted.\n\nIf you are judging his proximity to the sun based on the plasma arcs on the sun's surface, yes [they really can be that large.](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KMSdOZxNHWk/maxresdefault.jpg)", "CG movies aimed at \"adults\", sounds like the MCU", "The MCU is mostly CG", "maybe if Neil Armstrong had a famous career in arm wrestling", "If you want variety, you can find it in places where hundreds of millions of dollars aren't being bet on it. I'm a fan of local theater and D&D myself, but I'm sure there's plenty of experimental movies being made on a friendly budget, but no one pays to vote those movies tot he front page of reddit.", "Spock thought it was ok", "Yeah that too, i was trying to err on nice reasons", "They also get away with this with Captain Marvel.", "Yes, hence \"i was hoping for\". I know it won't happen, but it would've been nice.", "Holy fucking shit. \"This guy is one micrometer 'right', OMG HE'S NAZI!!!\"\n\nEat shit", "this is apparently pre star command and pre space ranger buzz. so this could lead into HOW he ends up in those positions. might even be references to them in the movie itself.", "Aww, yeah, spot on", "I want Rex and Slinky", "I maintain they forced that flop with their release schedule and lack of marketing.", "You might as well ask why the live-action (CGI) Transformers movies were created in our universe. Wouldn't kids rather have a movie about Optimus Prime, the toy that fights Megatron?", "I love this line of rational.", "Space is still not going to be more hospitable than a climate collapsed Earth.", "……AAAAND WHAAAAT????", "Star Command exists in the Toy Story world like Star Trek's Starfleet exists in ours - as a franchised fictional universe that inspired movies, TV shows, cartoons, and a range of merchandise including toys - like the one Andy played with.\n\nThis new movie is supposed to be the original blockbuster movie in the Toy Story world which led to the merchandising (and thus items like Buzz Lightyear toys).", "Totally plausible! I'm interested to find out either way. This trailer looks pretty cool.", "Did the movies get worse or did you just get older?", "As a grunting alien mechanic.", "Fairly Odd Parents did it first.", "So Disney is throwing away all the Buzz Lightyear stories so they can save money by just copying other movies? I didn't see a single idea that hasn't already been in a movie!", "Nah, its a good movie no matter your age.", "Only if they show them fucking. They're animals so it's not pornographic, it's educational.", "And you'll like it that way or we'll cancel you", "They needed a fresh actor to create some buzz.", "Next Pixar movie after that one will be a western starring Woody and the film will be called \"Roundup\". I know Disney…they will transform Pixar into Marvel.", "[The best usage ](https://youtu.be/gXr1O8e9-mM)", "Or just not enough WokePoints.", "I want this to be revealed in the end credits scene!", "With Javier Bardem as the bad guy :)\n\nWoody. You are making this harder than it needs to be \n\nLOL", "> 56\n\nDAMN!", "Also \"Moonage Daydream\" by David Bowie in the film, so a little of column A and a little of column B.", "I nominate this as best usage:\nhttps://youtu.be/BfL5V3WHhqM", "Well you're correct because that's what the director said.", "YOU MEAN FORCHUN SUN? ALEXA! P\\[LAY THE CREEDENCE!", "Never been less excited for a Pixar film in my life. A Pixar movie not being great used to be the exception to the rule. That is slowly getting flipped on its head.", "They really made a fictional movie, about a fictional toy, from a fictional movie.", "What irks me is the 5 seconds countdown in the trailer actually lasts 7 seconds. So annoying, I'm not seeing this movie, if they can't count seconds, count me out.", "The concept is very uninteresting. Pixar has released too many ok to bad movies over the past decade for me to think my initial impression is totally off. Even if some gems, like Coco, have been released in that time.", "Arrrrghhhh????", "16 out of their 24 films are not sequels so that's not really true. Maybe you just don't know as much about their filmography as you'd like to believe?", "The Book was better anyway.", "r/HolUp", "Buzz Lightyear punched a man who told him the Space Command didn't land a man on the moon.", "I kinda suspect he ends up in the future or in an alternate universe. A few of the other scenes imply a fish out of water like scenario.", "this movie looks great and im gonna see it but Chris Evans? Really? He is gonna be mediocre at best.", "Algorithm....Nano-bots!", "Don’t you mean Mrs. Nesbitt?", "HOLY FUCK.", "16 out of 24 of Pixar's filmography are original IPs.", "He's conservative.", "That’s not time flying, it’s gliding with style!", "Yeah, it was a star studded affair with both Tom Hanks and Tim Allen as the leads. \n\nKind of funny how the part he landed because he was at the peak of his fame would be seen as his primary notable career role 25 years later.", "Time for a gritty \"live action\" reboot of Woody's Roundup, with a computer animated Clint Eastwood type as the antagonist.", "Lmao for fucks sake. Can I get a trip into the sun instead? We've clearly reached the end of creativity.", "Are you giving those as examples for why Pixar shouldn't make new IPs?", "No, I don't see. How is Andy's neighborhood, considered standard first world, look nothing like a science fiction world where there's an abundance of metal made structures? These scifi elements are not current in our world, nor are they currently in Andy's world. You ssee?", "Can't say this trailer sparked my interest. It actually didn't show much looks pretty boring or slow.", "Buzz lightyear is a toy based off this guy. That works.", "Never has a truer statement been said", "Or, it’s a prequel from the series Star Toys. A three movie series, Star Toys: A New Hope, Zerg Strikes Back, and lastly Return of Star Commander. Buzz Lightyear was a household name. Lightyear is an origin story, which has its own Cartoon spinoff and toy collection inspired by the original trilogy. Andy’s mom bought Buzz for him on his birthday, which lead to Toy Story. This story takes place in the future where at the end of the movie it pans out to Andy watching in the theater with his little boy and a small Buzz Lightyear.", "Santa Clause", "I can’t get over how much the character design looks like Ben Browder circa Faracape", "Believe in the me that believe in the you that believe in me.", "I hope they have some Buzz Lightyear of Star Command references in there. That would be so great.", "That robot cat is very Disney so don't get too* hyped up. But I have to admit that this trailer has less warning bells than usual for me... it kind of looks different than Disney's usual fair. It could be refreshing to have something different.", "This is the only way it makes sense.", "Starring Robert Downey Jr. As Woody", "Idk I might take that bet.", "Pixar themselves claim that’s just really clever fan theory. They never intended for us to look at the Pixar movies like that. They have always liked adding in little Easter eggs here and there for upcoming projects / past references. That is usually all that it is though, just an Easter egg reference.", "Boy, I sure hope somebody got fired for that blunder!", "I had some difficulty finding a source, but [this Entertainment Weekly article](https://ew.com/movies/chris-evans-pixar-lightyear-trailer/) quotes the movie’s director as saying \"In the Toy Story universe, it would be like a movie that maybe Andy would have seen, that would have made him want a Buzz Lightyear figure.\"", "Let's discuss the stakes then", "I personally like Seu Jorge’s Portuguese covers throughout Life Aquatic as well", "Different Buzz basically. This is the Buzz the toy is based off from. Kinda easy to wrap head around concept. \n\nNow the question is are we watching the actual movie itself or we seeing a movie about an actor playing the role of Buzz? At the end do we see him with a toy Buzz that’s the Buzz from the movies tying things together?", "Buzz! What are you doing? YOU! ARE! A! TOOOOOOOY!!! You're not the real Buzz Lightyear, you're an action figure! You are a CHILD'S PLAYTHING!!", "Welcome to 2016.", "Story is pretty good actually, though the epilogue gets a bit messy and \"what the fuck is going on\". Also suffered from having 3 campaigns, and while each one is very important to their given factions, the final one ended up being the only one relevant to the overarching plot.", ">this is an in-universe fictional sc-fi story, like a movie that would have inspired the Buzz Lightyear toy.\n\nyou just repeated what you said was wrong?", "Strong Black women are the new Black Male Best Friend / Partner / Half Sibling / Step Sibling to Caucasian Male MC of the 80’s and 90’s. \n\nDisney literally had a movie about two Male coming of age new Friends enjoying the summer with a Female third leg recently!", "I really didn't expect much out of Soul tbh, I didn't hear much buzz and the trailers looked meh. Holy shit that movie made me sob on an airplane.", "This might be the weirdest prequel ever. A story about the guy who inspired a toy from a different film.\n\nDoes this mean that interstellar space travel is canonical in the toy story universe?", "If‘s fucking Buzz Lightyear, holy shit.Never would I have thought that he‘ll get a dedicated movie. I‘m just gonna watch it for feeling like a little kid again!", "Or you know they’re just good songs that fit well with the theme of the trailer/movie? Idk not everything is about profit", "That's pink right?", "Woody's roundup is next!", "how big is that plasma arc? larger than earth right?", "Man they are provokingly good at marketing. Fuck.", "No, not everything, but estates (and whatnot) generally tend to be less selective. It’s common for an artists songs to be used more often after the artist themselves is dead.", "I'd rather watch this then pretty much every spiderman/batman/hulk/Godzilla pile of shit Hollywood pumps out ever 6 months.", "Why's it matter.", "It's a kids movie about a spaceman who works for star command fighting and/or befriending aliens. Try not to worry too much about it.\n\nJust sit back and enjoy the ride.", "Love, Death, and Robots is very adult oriented.", "I think it looks terrible. How does this film fit the lore of Toy Story. I guess we will find out.", "That single line of dripping plasma in the right half of the arc could completely envelope the Earth.", "Oh shit. Disney are going to make a Toy Story in fiction cinematic universe. Lol", "ugh he is a fuckinh action figure tho so wtf is this bullshit", "Looks a bit like a cliché. But Pixar never fails to deliver a great film.", "Since their Disney acquisition its more 50/50\n\n7 out of 14.", "The statements from Pete Docter and the director of the movie indicate Andy saw the movie and then wanted the toy.", "At 0:20, the controller says \"2\" while the clock shows \"5\" (then he says \"1\" and the clock, quite ligically, shows \"4\"). Somebody fire this controler or the guy who made this trailer.", "I mean, Fortunate Sun was essentially propaganda for the Vietnam war.", "This is the movie buzz light year is based off of. To quote the director “this is the movie Andy watched”", "No, this is the movie that inspired the toy line, in the movies.", "Thanks, don't mind if I do!", "It isn't though, he is much more known for home improvement or galaxy quest.", "Hollywood is so bankrupt on movie ideas it's ridiculous.", "You forgot \"Time Has Come Today\".", "\"You're a coward, and a liar, and... ugh! you still can punch me in the jaw\"", "First Chris Pratt as Mario, and now Chris Evans as Buzz. Can’t wait to see Chris Hemsworth as Spyro at this rate.", "[relevant gif](https://cdn4.dogonews.com/images/181b0b0c-a691-4efa-8404-f09d6d7506fb/rain_earthtoscale.gif)", ">Good times\n\nNot for Lynette, though :D", "So I am the only one who gets the theme song from Woody's Roundup randomly stuck in their head? \"He's the rootenest toonenest cowboy in the wiiiiiild wild west... Wooooody's rounduppppp\"", "Maybe that was what the cartoon was called. Maybe Andy didn't actually watch the movie, but was an avid watcher of the cartoon, and that is where the confusion comes from.", "Ah, I've been asked this before, elsewhere. Here's my answer.\n\n> Myths are extremely prevalent stories. I prefer to avoid the word \"good\" because, honestly, some of them are rather crap as stories, but they are definitely memorable.\n\n> Proof? They survived.\n\n> Think about Shakespeare. He certainly wasn't the only writer of 16th century. More likely there were thousands of writers contemporary to him. Still, how many of them can you mention off top of your head? How many are still played on scenes all around the world, or published with new reprints every year? Shakespeare was extremely memorable and prevalent, and so motives of his sceneplays are included all over the popculture - for the simple reason, they are memorable.\n\n> Now Shakespeare's sceneplays are - what - 400 years old? Compare that with myths from ancient Greece. Norse gods are at least 2000 years old. Hercules/Heracles is roughly 3000 years old and still fresh. Egyptian gods survived good 5000 years. It pretty much means they appealed to the audience all that time. Now this is some good marketing sample of a successful franchise!\n\n> Essentially, by choosing mythology you choose \"tested and true\", something that continuously kept being successful long before your medium was born. People kept retelling the myths for centuries and they always found willing audience. You'd need to screw up really bad to retell it and not be successful.\n\n> I'll refrain from stating my opinions on influence of including mythology on actual quality of the final work. I can just state it's a safe marketing move.", "eoeoeoeoeoeooeoeeuuughhhhh????", "Tim \"the Huffman\" Taylor", "The most efficient way to execute Oberth Maneuver within the solar system - if you can get away with it!\n\n[relevant XKCD](https://xkcd.com/1244/)", "I am just going to go by the assumption that this movie is the proper one, and that Buzz Lightyear of Star Command is the cartoon tie-in cartoon that parents who love the original movie gets snarky about their kids watching.\n\nThis is the Ghostbusters to the Ghostbusters cartoon.", "We are not selling enough toys!", "They can’t fool me. I’m boycotting unless Tim Allen is in it", "The MCU and Star Wars have made everyone fucking demented. Most of the comments for this trailer are discussing and arguing over how Lightyear fits into the Toy Story/Buzz Lightyear meta verse and are acting like that’s the only interesting angle here and how it has to all fit into this neat little box of shared narrative.\n\nFuck.", "Wait , wasnt he a toy? and toys go to space too? or its not canon toy story universe? so many questions.", "Toy Story is one meta level below Buzz Lightyear.\n\nBuzz Lightyear the movie in Andy's world takes the same position as the Transformers movies in ours.", "Well it's that time again when Pixar is contractually obligated to make a movie that's easily merchandisable", "The problem is: That wouldn't have happened in the 90s.", "SSTO is only impossible for unaided rockets, I assume there's an accelerator in that launch pad.", "Maybe Andy just liked the cartoon more, which isn't unthinkable for a young kid.\n\nFor that matter, maybe the toy came after the cartoon based on the movie, meaning the claim that the toy was based on the cartoon instead of the movie is correct.", "I feel like Sc1 did this better, with each campaign blending into the next one, being very important. \n\nThis obviously peaked in WCIII campaigns, with how what they wrote for it was enough for like 8 solid years of WoW before things started getting convoluted.", "It's not necessarily impossible on earth, it may well be very possible on this other planet which may not be earth.", "True, we could theoretically one day create a rocket that is >95% fuel by mass, but it would require insane materials that we don't have yet. \n\nAlso yeah that's a very good point, smaller planet would be much easier.", "I thought it felt more like elite dangerous. Then the warp rings felt like Freelancer.", "I think it's partially because they want to make it clear that it's a separate story than that of the Buzz Lightyear we know from the Toy Story series.\n\nThat and this is supposed to be a pretty young version of him which old man voice wouldn't really fit, plus the controversies. But I really hope the making it distinctly separated is part of it.", "Emperor Zerg… gasp. Best trailer ever.", "There would not have been a cartoon based on a film, and a film such as this one would not have existed in the 90s. Even if it had, the cartoon wouldn't have deviated so dramatically.\n\nObviously the toy and the cartoon were tied together like _Transformers_ and _G.I. Joe_, but what I don't buy is the \"this is the film which inspired them\" angle.", "I feel like that skinny-ass cow about to get milked after what Disney did to Star Wars movies. It can’t get much worse after that.", "\"This film is not yet rated\" Is that a sign that they want feedback.. Please allow it to be dark like Cruella, the audience that watched the originals are now adults. I would watch it if they did that.\n\nAlso the characters really look off, they're just a little weird, the aesthetics don't match the scenes at all.\nIt's not like the characters look like the original movie anyways so why did they make it look like buzz is a big fat baby with a chin made out of lard, not even the original buzz has a chin that enormous, or is that just part of the obvious Star Wars pandering they are doing by making buzz's chin as large as George Lucas's. Everything else looks amazing except the characters, they just copied and pasted a toony low effort aesthetic and it just looks really bad. Even the original toy buzz looks more \"manly\" with a better defined chin.\n\nJust because they're Disney doesn't mean they can't make a good movie without weird decisions, cmon now don't make product sacrifices for bad corporate decisions. I don't care about the other obvious pandering just to make that clear, in fact the black captain at 1:00 looks wayyy better than buzz, i wish that guy was the main character.", "Odd thing is VR Pokerstars is chill AF", "Gonna watch it and see its rating bounce down the stairs.", "It is only logical.", "awesome, thanks.", "... beyond meat?", "I see the hat", "Looks terrible and this wasn’t needed. \n\nBut consooomers will eat up this garbage", "Those sucked too", "Can't wait 4 this", "Soul, Coco, Luca, Onward, Turning Red are all not good enough for you?", "How is this downvoted lol they were all good movies and just disproved the ignorant statement made by the person you replied to.", "Have you actually heard it..?", "He looks a little cursed.", "\"SLINK\"", "I kind of thought that pod that started to slowly open was containing Zurg.", "I'm in camp 2. The Buzz Lightyear cartoon kicked ass.", ">is toy story a universe where we can all just break the laws of physics?\n\nThere is no reason to believe any fictional universe obeys all of newton's laws, unless they are explicitly spelled out to us in universe.", "This is the movie that that Toy Buzz is based off in the toy story universe.", "So I'm going with this being the movie that Andy made after graduating film school.", ">Wait, it's canon that all the toy story movies took place in a world with FTL travel? What? Was this already known?\n\nI don't think it's been stated either way whether FTL travel is possible in the universe of toy story. But it IS a universe where toys are alive. I'm not sure why \"FTL travel\" is the thing people are struggling to grasp as reality in this situation.", "26 years to get to this, time flies man.", "Fucking Zurg better be in this", "[ Jump to 00:20 @ Lightyear \| Teaser Trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwPL0Md_QFQ&t=0h0m20s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Pixar, Video Popularity: 98.29%, Video Length: [01:34])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@00:15](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwPL0Md_QFQ&t=0h0m15s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "So do we get a gritty cowboy reboot for Woody next?", "So long as this isn't pushing some annoying political commentary and aiming for diversity quotas instead of a decent movie, then I'm keen to see it.", "While we're on the subject, one thing I never understood in sci-fi movies: How can they fly spaceships, that are engineered to fly through space with rocket propulsion, close to planets in an atmosphere with rarely any wings? Tie fighters, for example, how are they able to stay in the air???", "What is Dagobah doing there? (at 0:57)", "Unobtanium!", "Mass effect and element zero", "The price is wrong, bitch!", "You just described anonymity... or reverse anonymity?", "Yeah, and Apollo 13", "We don't need any movie, made by anyone, or written about anything, so the point is moot.\n\nThe Toy Story movies were solid, but this really has nothing to do with Toy Story at all, aside from one character which they are now taking the physical likeness and voice actor of, and practically nothing else. It's not set in the Toy Story universe, it is a completely new story.\n\nIf there's one complaint you absolute cannot make about Pixar, it's that they don't make new ideas and just endlessly pump out sequels.", "Did you see the end of the trailer? I don’t think you’ll want to see the movie.", "Haha I bailed when that last title came up. You're absolutely right. No avoiding it now.", "What?", "I know some hard core fans hate it, but I love First Contact. One of my favorite TNG movies.", "SMAKIBBFB", "Skylon was a proposed vehicle which could achieve SSTO, just with limited payload.", "Why formulate your own argument when you can just contradict instead", "2 layers of fiction isn't enough to include FTL, we need at least 3 or 4", "SSTO is impossible only because our engines aren't strong enough for the weight of them and their fuel.", "Thanks. I know he was married to Iman. I was giggling as I wrote it.", "So it's like somebody made a cartoon that's basically \"What if Bond (or another established modern fictional character) was a space ranger\" and that took off enough to get its own toyline?", "I was being pedantic, but not really. How can a toy a kid has in the 90s be based on a real guy who lived in a sci-fi future world?", "shit, I love it too.", "You got Pokémon backwards, it was a video game first and the TV series was made to advertise it.", "I mean, is it really SSTO if you have detachable boosters?", "Word. I have never gone from \"who needs this\" to \"I need this\" so fast.", "This could be the gritty reboot of the 90s cartoon", "Looked a bit Clone Wars to me.", "ooo, that's a good term for it. But yeah the similarity is there.", "Because he's on a tv show", "/r/iamverysmart soundin ass", "Wait... so that would mean in the Toy Story \"human\" universe, they have aliens? And then like if this story is based on past events of an astronaut that they then created a toy out of, it would mean the human civilization in Toy Story is quite advanced, more so than we currently are. But yet they still live in that Toy Story universe as we currently do. Why don't they have flying cars and things since in their past they had airplanes that can basically go into space, fly to the sun and move at warp speed.", "That's exactly it", "It's a little weird tho\n\nBecause the real movie was slightly sarcastic with it's approach of entertainment.\n\nThe good ol space toy from a space film\n\nThe good ol cowboy from a cowboy TV show\n\nAnd now us ourselves are getting those films. It's kinda hilarious don't you think haha", "So it's a real guy, on a fake TV show, playing a character? Like having a Captain Kirk figure? Maybe one based off of the Chris Pine Kirk since this is a new movie vs when Toy Story came out. Sure, that was one of my ideas.", "Shut up. They can do what they want.", "Okay... I never watch Pixar movies but I thought it looked good. I didn't even watch the Toy Story prequels. You're getting way too upset about something made for kids.", "I remember that the cartoon messed with this idea, then Zurg pretty much said \"psyche\" and left.", "Agree", "At least they’re not using Sympathy For The Devil by The Rolling Stones", "There are plenty others for sure, but Page abused the same girl Bowie did (Lori Maddox) so I felt it was more apropos", "Super hyped!! Broke 3 VHS tapes watching Toy Story as a kid.\n\nOther origin ideas:\nWoody - 70's porn star\nMr Potatohead - Potato famine of Ireland.", "Wiki might be referring to the super old buzz lightyear film, which legitimately started with the toys from Toy Story putting the VHS in to the player", "Don't forget Apollo 13. Bill Paxton's character Fred plays on a tape deck in space!", "I think the 'ugh' might actually be 'thief'", "It’s child Andy.\n\nThe sci-fi movie within the universe inspired the toy Buzz Lightyear. So the movie would have had to preceded the toy’s creation.", "Why is this a Star Wars movie? Dagobah at 0:57, the hangar scene right after it, Darth Vader-ish chamber at 1:19 and so many more. \n \nIs Toy Story a prequel to Star Wars ... ? Honest question", "Who told you??", "I want to thank every Disney employee and every Disney customer because you guys paid for all of this.", "First Chris Pratt as Mario and now this. MCU actors getting into their \"Fuck it\" years, and I'm all for it", "Look at Tim Allen getting his own movie and all the lines. Assuming it's him", "Ok, so, it's like the movie they made to sell the toy in that universe, like Transformers? That makes a twisted sort of sense.", "[ Jump to 00:57 @ Lightyear \| Teaser Trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwPL0Md_QFQ&t=0h0m57s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Pixar, Video Popularity: 98.27%, Video Length: [01:34])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@00:52](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwPL0Md_QFQ&t=0h0m52s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "It's not, it's Chris Evans", "Nanomachines, son.", "Early 30s now.", "Yeah exactly. The creator stated that in the Toy Story universe, the toy Buzz Lightyear was based on a fictional in-universe sci-fi epic about that character.\n\nSo as a kid, Andy saw the sci-fi epic starring the fictional Buzz Lightyear character and then wanted the toy.", "Toy Story is my favourite movie, and Buzz Lightyear is my favourite fictional character. I cannot tell you why I cried watching this trailer, but I did. I'm so happy!", "So what's the name of the actor playing Buzz Lightyear in the fictional movie that the toy is based on?", "I want to see a documentary on the career of the actor who played Buzz Lightyear in the fictional movie that the toy in the fictional Toy Story movie is based on.", "We need a movie detailing the struggles of the actor to land the part of Buzz Lightyear in that movie.", "Because they come across as an insufferable douchebag. There are ways of being correct, and there are ways of making yourself look like a cunt. Their reply was the latter. There is also such a thing as hyperbole, although that was clearly lost on them.", "that's not steve zissou", "I feel that David would've approved that one", "So they can sell even more action figures....", "Great record, great movie", "Ouch to Allen", "I loved the two movies, but my friends think I'm crazy cause I think the soundtrack is absolutely SHIT. Also, not a fan of the tape. Yeah it's sweet and all, but just an excuse to put 70's pop into a space flick.", "Am I the only one thinking about just how freaking dark this is?\n\nEverything we see happen in this movie, every relationship Buzz establishes, every experience that brings him joy or fear or excitement, is not only fake, but is unceremoniously torn from him by a toy cowboy. This movie shows us that the memories that Buzz Lightyear was talking about in Toy Story 1 were not half-formed leftovers of a short hero backstory. They were fully realized experiences. He had literal decades worth of memories. He had PARENTS (presumably) for god's sake. But then he goes on to find out that not only has his life for the past 20-30 years been a complete lie, but everyone he ever cared about or loved never existed. Never loved him. He was a toy owned by a human child.\n\nNow I know the existential crisis he goes through in TS1 already explains this for the most part. But this new movie let's us see how truly devastating his snap to reality was. It's like this new movie exists just to show us everything that Buzz had ripped from him...\n\nThat being said, I'm still super stoked about the movie.", "You see the hat?!", "For sure should have been a series\n\n\nWhole thing was way too fast and the character arcs we're barely watchable nonsense even for a silly Pixar movie. I was excited for this movie given it's location and pretense only to be given a whole Netflix series in under 2 hours where character change face so quickly it may as well been magic. \n\nAnd I don't think I've seen a Pixar movie with so many gimmicky useless characters made simply to sell toys .. and then... The ending happened with all the \"original character dragon do not steal\" dragons.", "Courtesy of Ray Palmer?", "Personally I enjoyed it, but i also completely understand why it was so poorly reviewed.", "That's oddly somewhat similar to the plot of the Afterman concept albums. Except in that the astronaut/scientist accidentally discovers the afterlife and gets stuck there for a while being tortured by tormented souls. Oh and instead of a toyline, an intergalactic war starts over his findings because those albums are actually prequels to another series if concept albums. So yeah.", "He finds out that he’s a toy and not the REAL Buzz Lightyear. This movie is about the real one. I guess it still sucks for all the toys with his imprinted memories that aren’t actually theirs.", "Nah it's all the n word stuff", "You’ve got that backwards. Allen said being a Trump supporter made him feel like a jew in Nazi Germany. Still stand by your logic?", "He was good at chess too", "And beyond", "Tim Allen has been dropping n-bombs?", "This looks like a soulless corporate cash-in that Pixar ran with and wanted to make a legitimately great movie out of.", "Yeah, this isn’t real! I thought this was a documentary!", "Plot twist: Buzz Lightyear is 4,000 miles tall.", "Right, he finds out he is a toy and not the \"real\" Buzz Lightyear. Except that he had all the memories of the \"real\" Buzz Lightyear. \"Years of academy training, wasted!\", He remembers literally years of training in the ranger academy. So while he doesn't have the same body as the real Buzz Lightyear, he WAS the real Buzz Lightyear in every other way that matters.\n\nIf he had all of the same memories as the real Buzz Lightyear, then that's exactly who he was.", "Typical E:D hyperjump right into the star", "They specifically said what it is apparently, but if that's the case, please no.", "Yeah, let's go! Flow of Pixar merchandise has slow down during pandemic we need one more movie to push it.", "Maybe not \"gritty\" in the modern sense but I would be interested to see Pixar's attempt at a Leone-inspired western...", "So is this going to share continuity with Buzz Lightyear of Star Command tv show? So confusing", "Nice to see Jay Leno getting his own animated movie.", "hmm yes the trailer here is made out of trailer", "Usernames that are only disturbing in context...", "In fish years, that's an octogenarian. Checkmate?", "No, because it is a damn fine movie! So many good quotes!", "Ah, I suppose so. In any case, it’s a bundle of mediums that all revolve around a central content theme. But at no point was Ash a real person haha", "No Tim Allen...no see...", "Yes. And debating about how the phrase \"the n word\" is actually more offensive than the word itself......", "sorry it was Chris Evans\n\n&#x200B;\n\n[https://twitter.com/chrisevans/status/1337204197641629696?lang=en](https://twitter.com/chrisevans/status/1337204197641629696?lang=en)", "Maybe this is a reboot of the original film that inspired the cartoon ala Ghostbusters. Would make sense unless the film is in a 90s retro style.", "Im not saying they got worse. Im saying not all of their stuff is great. Thats the initial point I refuted.", "Yeah loved it when I was younger but understand now why it was considered shit.", "Don't diss Boss Baby like that!", "It better be in a 90s retro style ala Independence Day.", "It would but apparently no, this is literally the in-universe film which inspired the toy, aka it came out in the 90s and Andy saw it and wanted the toy.", "I'm in for the R rated origin story movie titled \"Sid\".", "I've heard it said that Allen is a controversial figure atm but I can't find anything so idk, maybe they specifically chose someone else... I can't really see a reason they wouldn't get him to do it otherwise since, yknow, is animated, they don't need to worry about him looking old...", "> But at no point was Ash a real person haha\n\n...should I tell them..?", "It's a future sci fi movie, easy enough to explain away with super high energy density fuels, which is probably what that crystal was in the beginning", "Canonically that's what the cartoon series was though. The commercials for the toys themselves in the Toy Story movies has a narrator saying that the toy is based on some hit cartoon as far as I recall. Or was it a video game that the voice mentioned? One of the two. My headcanon (and hope) is that in-universe the new movie will be a gritty live-action reboot of the cartoon that inspired the toy. Like how Bayformers is a live action reboot of the Transformers cartoons.", "In the Ghostbusters cartoon itself, at the very least, the cartoon came first, then the movie. They even have an episode all about the time when a studio decided to make a live-action movie based on the heroic deeds of the Ghostbusters, and it just so happens to be the movies that exist in our own real world. They even make jokes about how Venkman is being played by Bill Murray, and they show clips of the live-action movie in the theater.", "Sounds very weird. If we know there are aliens out there, if we have such an advanced galactic union already and so on and so forth, why in the hell do the human characters in the Toy Story movies then live with only 90s/early 2000s technology all around them?", "If all the stuff from the Lightyear movie already happened by Toy Story, why do the humans in the Toy Story movies live in a world that is demonstrably 90s/early 2000s? They have the technology of that time, they dress the same way people did back then, all the cars are like the ones of that era etc. Where are all the aliens that should have migrated to us through our galactic union politics and such?", "OMFG I completely forgot that the cartoon or TV show that they mention and show on the commercial for the toy in the movies actually look OLD... I didn't even remember they had made anything to show of that.", "boo!", "I think a missing element here is that this really feels like a reboot of whatever in-world media inspired the Buzz Lightyear toy in Toy Story. Kind of explains why the space suit looks like an attempt to reimagine something that was originally designed for a more cartoonish aesthetic (from a Toy Story-universe perspective; never mind that this is actually what's happening in our world).", "The fact that you don't even know what a pogrom is and are lecturing about history knowledge to someone with a degree in it is chef's kiss", "This feels like the MCU-era reboot of the original 90s merchandising franchise to me.", "The Tim Allen version is supposed to be a larger-than-life cheesy action hero. This seems like the franchise reboot where they wanted to make the character more sympathetic.", "Because people generally don't like changes to nestalgic characters they grew up watching and loving. In the same way they wouldn't like if they changed the color of his spacesuit, or his catchphrase, or they way he interacts with other characters, or any other general chararistics that make buzz lightyear who he is. In a way it ends buzz lightyear as we know him and replaces him with something else.\n\nWhy do we have to change existing, and arguably historic, characters in TV and movies to fit today's more \"woke\" ideals rather than rely on the creation of new characters that fit that agenda? It's all fine and good if new characters are created in that mold, but what is the purpose of changing the ones we all grew up with and love?", "I don't care what his political stance is, it didn't affect his voice over of Buzz", "Andy would go see this movie. However, unstated in the marketing materials for the movie is that this feels like a reboot of the original media that inspired the action figure in Toy Story. They keep saying this is the movie that inspired the toy, but that doesn't quite scan.", "I mean, it is live action, just in the context of an animated universe.", "> the voice usually is\n\nThat's what I said.", "That would actually make sense. Disney needs to start spinning their official stance to clarify that. It's not what they said, but it's what they should have said.", "Yes", "Well they're was a brief Buzz Lightyear cartoon as well. But it looked different than the one shown on the TV in the movie.", "Ok, have a nice day", "They've discovered crystallic fusion, as mentioned in Toy Story 1 :)", "Again, you're throwing a fit about black female getting thrown scraps when you've had the main meal, dessert, drinks, appetizers and everything else for a century and you still do have 95% of it - it's just now you might have to share a side dish or something lol.", "It really worked for this trailer, though. The feels are real.\n\nI miss David Bowie.", "Bob and Doug", "So you admit you have no clue and any argument you make is moronic, trumpers are not remotely close to nazis and if you think that you need a better history class.", "Thats not even accurate either, seriously, history book would benefit you greatly", "Yeah thats not true but the dems are starting those programs which is why school systems want parents out of the schools", "None", ">Almost overthrows democracy and free elections\n\nDid not remotely happen, but glad to see you believe what's spoon fed to you", "If you didn't pay attention to how the pipeline he canceled stopped price wars and allowed OPEC to price it however that wanted then you are too dense to follow any conversation.\n\n\nNormally they don't but with that one action and his administration not allowing new refineries to be constructed means prices skyrocketed.\n\nSo yes he had a huge effect on the current gas prices.", "I'm going out on a limb here, but I doubt you made the casting decisions.\n\nCasting is super politically driven. No doubt about it.", "[Didn't happen btw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXAv2cDkWAA)", "Consequences aren't the same for each side though, shits played out and one gets away with it where the other would not.", "No he did not", "He doesn't use it in his stand up", "Thats the only time he used it stop acting like he pulled a Kramer who got acting jobs again because he's a left winger", "So he was using it describing shit, may be poor taste but doesn't mean shit", "No he didn't, he said they give the word too much weight in an interview", "No trump didn't have shit to do with it but keep rambling like you have a point", "Yeah, that's not true lol. A simple Google search brings up articles that are years apart where he has done this more than once.", "Yes, he did. Google is free.", "\"If I clearly am not a racist, then how can 'ni--er' be bad coming out of my mouth?\" asked Allen, who claimed to use the word regularly in his standup. He added \"[the phrase] 'the n-word' is worse to me than ni--er\".", "Yes! For What It's Worth is 1,000,000% the song used for all Vietnam War movie trailers. I couldn't think of its name, thanks! I can't remember ever seeing Spirit in the Sky in a movie about Vietnam.", "Hes arguing inflection and malice is part of the use and people freely use the n-word almost as a replacement for saying n*****.\n\nHe never used it in his act or goes around saying it daily quit acting like he does.", "No people here have been saying he used it in his act and all the time, he said it once in an interview in response to someone asking about the Paula Deen shit.", "No it doesn't it refers to that one interview", "They absolutely are, and if you truly believe what you're saying you have bought into some serious propaganda.", "Yeah he only told them the election was stolen and told them where to March to lol.\n\nYou're so mad. I'd be mad to if this great leader I spent 4 years sucking off turned out to be a traitor that achieved nothing and lost reelection something historically completely in the president's favor to win.", "The remakes of animated films from the 90s are really getting on my nerves...", "Imagine not knowing what a pogrom is and thinking it's synonymous with program. Goddam you right wingers hate education", "I was hoping for something closer Buzz Lightyear of Star Command. But this looks very intriguing as well.", "I still think we’re thinking too deep for a kids movie. I’m the end I want to be entertained. Beauty and the Beast is technically Stockholm Syndrome but we overlook that because we like the story. Sometimes we gotta flip off our brains for fun time.", "I can’t wait to take my son to watch this!", "Isn’t it the same thing with actual art? They make more money after the artist is dead? Idk I just heard that", "You’re probably right. I’d imagine that an estate may be more open to prints and reproductions of physical art than the original artist would have been.\n\nA living painter might cringe at the idea of their work being used on a coffee mug, but an accountant would love the idea!", "So for the record you're admitting to being one of the dumbest mfs on the planet?", "Fun fact. \"The Only Thing They Fear Is You\" goes kind of* well with this trailer as well.", "What we need next is a western movie with sheriff Woody.", "Great band, I love Flying on the Ground is Wrong.", "Maybe it feels nostalgic for us but wouldn't for them because of our nonlinear perception of their universe. Maybe the movie came out before andy was born.", "Oh! That I can answer, at least generally as most sci-fi treats orbital mechanics, lol.\n\nBasically any time you see artificial gravity (Star Wars, Star Trek, Halo etc), you can handwave away the problems with atmospheric flight and aerodynamics. \n\nYou don't need wings for flights, you just need to go fast. You need over 9.8m/s of acceleration, to counter Earth's own gravity (and adjusted for whatever alien planet you're on). Wings provide lift, which means you don't need to go as fast or need as much power, because you get the atmosphere to do some of the work for you.\n\nBut let's say you've got a cool space ship meant for deep space most of the time and wings are dumb. Getting in and out of atmosphere is a lot easier if you can either: 1) reduce your mass artificially or 2) have a power source solely intended to counteract a planets pull.\n\nI don't think it's explicitly stated, but I believe Star Trek is likely the former - they have artificial gravity, inertial dampeners, structural integrity fields, anti-matter warp cores, and basically tremendous control over the physics of their ship. Reducing the ships effective mass to near zero means that their engines designed to provide thrust in deep space don't have to push nearly as much very un-aerodynamic mass through the atmosphere.\n\nStar Wars definitely works on the later principle. There is explicitly a technology called repulsor lifts, which provide opposing lift against a planet's gravity. That's how everything from Luke's speeder in A New Hope to the Star Destroyers holding an absurdly low geosynchronous orbit over the gate in Rogue One work. They actually work kind of like wings, since you don't have to worry about simply falling, and you can now fly around at a lower speed than would otherwise be necessary.\n\nMaybe this ship in lightyear has something like that, but how they treat the launch, giving it imagery of a conventional launch, makes it seem like it doesn't. Guess we'll have to watch the movie and see.", "Sounds edgy and noir. Slinky Dog gets entangled in the dark underworld and stretched past his limits.", "Ohh... I can choose to believe that. Thanks for taking the time to lay it out for me :)", "He said himself that he uses it in his act regularly lol", "lick my taint fuckwit", "What I meant is that it doesn't feel like an early 90s movie. For one thing, they're still making a movie now, and it can't help reflecting the era it's made in to some extent. Plus, while it's animated for us, it would be live action for Andy, and the seamlessness between the \"actors\" and what would need to be some sort of special effect is a distinct characteristic of movies made in the last decade or so.\n\nAs for nostalgia, I guess we'll have to see how much they stick to the premise of \"this is the original Buzz Lightyear movie\" as opposed to incorporating deliberate callbacks to Toy Story that wouldn't otherwise make sense narratively in the \"original\" film. The anticipatory \"and\" at the end of the teaser is a small example of this, but it's hard to gauge based only on a teaser. It might present different in the movie itself.", "But even if it did have a nostalgic call-back (for us), that doesnt mean it wouldnt make sense in Andys universe. For us, the yet to be Lightyear movie would be referencing the original Toy Story. For them, the events in Toy Story reference the Lightyear movie. \n\nIts kind of like watching Alien now and thinking its quite cliched, when all the media youve seen since was referencing Alien so much that it became a part of our culture, and thus made the tropes almost too familiar. Its a circular reference. Art imitates life imitates art.", "Some things might work both ways. But something like an overt reference to Andy's other toys is a fun callback for real world audiences but would be a bizarre non-sequitur in Andy's world. And the way the catchphrase \"to infinity and beyond!\" is treated in the teaser only makes sense if the audience is already expecting it. Of course, that might just be limited to the teaser, but if they tease it like that in the movie, then that tells us the audience is supposed to already be expecting it.\n\nBut anyways, the easiest thing to say is that they're making a movie about the character that inspired the toy in Andy's universe. Trying to insert the movie directly into Andy's universe makes things more complicated than they need to be because you have to start taking into account filmmaking techniques and narrative trends of different time periods, as well as make sure any references made make sense in-universe.", "awww, did i hurt someones widdle feelings?", "No he does not", "I'd still be a fuckton smarter than you, since oil jumped on the pipeline cancelation and even higher once he had them cancel approval for refineries.\n\n\nBut please keep proving you are dumber than even the person you think is dumbest MFer on the planet", "No we understand parents should be involved in a kids life but the left wants to destroy any family structure and have people rely on them for support, makes them easier to control", "Lol no he didn't", "No they aren't, otherwise Jussie Smollett would be in prison for a lot of felonies along with others who've lied about slurs written on their fence like LeBron who for some reason pushes BLM but ignores the slave labor that builds his shoes.", "Every time you tell people the president doesn't control gas prices some mf who think he's smart says \"ahhh yes usually the case except the president I like/dislike for political reasons by sheer coincidence, that one definitely has control over rising / lowering gas prices\"\n\nLike without fail I've heard that for the past 20 years that sure that's usually the case but this one time I swear the president is responsible\n\nAlways from a person who would align for/against the president anyway\n\nLike I don't gotta check out your comments to know you're against Biden regardless. Like I'm so confident of this being politically motivated that I'd be convinced if you said (without lying) you support Biden politically except he made a wrong move with this\n\nGo ahead lol I dare you", "I can't imagine being as insanely brainwashed as you are", "Ok lol. Alternative facts", "No where does he say that, he talks about other comedians using it in their act and Chris Rock using that term with him", "You don't have to imagine it, you're light years beyond brainwashed where you have no free will any longer", "I'm against any old fuck who's a lifetime politician to be honest but his direct policies led to the hike.\n\nNormally presidents dont affect the markets until their policies dictate and address a specific market that limits capabilities.\n\nFuck you're dumb.", "Google isn't hard. You can easily fact check that by searching \"Tim Allen regularly uses n word\". Straight from the horses ass.", "See? This kind of projection is nuts. You realize that the entire media apparatus that feeds you your beliefs was designed to do that right? \n\nTake climate change. Some college dropout like Rush Limbaugh spoon-fed you every belief you had in a subject they have no education, experience, or expertise in, and are funded by people with monetary interest in brainwashing people this way. The \"other side\" consists of those who literally just present and accept evidence of the natural world with zero monetary interest, just an interest in accepting evidence and the survival of the species.\n\nAnd now you no longer even believe in germ theory. You have regressed your capacity to think by centuries because it behooved rich people for you to do so.", "That’s after he got married, he became Edwin Lightyear Nesbitt", "See thats where you're wrong, I don't give a shit about climate change, what I do care about is pollution with huge fires for violations, take care of that and any change clears itself. And not giving other nations breaks for being so-called developing nations.\n\nThe reason people reject limits are its unfairly cripples business in some nations while giving advantages to massive polluting nations.", "No its not, the source is an article where he says others use it all the time so why can't he?\n\nThats a huge leap from saying he uses it all the time but keep spouting bullshit.", "Is Lebron praised in conservative circles? Are y'all begging him to appear in your media? Did Colin Kaepernick bounce back from being cancelled by y'all? Shit don't even get me started on the OGs of cancel culture, the pearl-clutching, self-righteous conservatives.\n\nDonald Trump and his crew committed a litany of crimes and instead of being sent to jail, y'all still worship the ground he walks on. Kyle Rittenhouse murdered people in cold blood but is a hero to many people like you. Shit, Charlie Kirk had a crowd of people cheering on murdering Democrats and his response was \"Don't do it, not because it's wrong, but because it's a trap\", yet he won't lose any followers for it.", "Haha see? I'm right lol.", ">[Lol no he didn't](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh3cbd7niTQ)", "So what? Just live your life how you want. Don't worry so damn much about how the rest of us do it. You can't have that much free time on your hands that something like this bothers you so much. I apologize if I seem crass. but nostalgia is one of the few constants that can bring joy to people. I don't think that's a bad thing.", "You think all of that because they made a cool spinoff of Buzz Lightyear? Damn bruh. You're trying way too hard to find the bad shit in life and ignoring all the good shit. Enjoy... whatever kind of mindset that is.", "No tim allen, no money from me.", "Voiced by Tom Holland", "Only thing contraversial about him is he doesnt like pandering to the woke crowd.", "Wont have to worry about me in that discussion.\n\nNo tim allen means I'm not even gonna think about this movie after this comment.", "I'd say that's pretty good. I'd go as far as to say maybe in Andy's universe, Buzz was known to have died and that's why he is glorified as a hero, when in reality he traveled to the future. This doesn't justify his space suit however, which is absolutely scifi tech. \n\n\nI dunno, Disney shot themselves in the foot. I hope they retract it rather than make everyone cringe with the idea Toy Story is a dystopian universe where the middle class still cannot afford access to technology surpassing the 90s and early 2000s.", "I am absolutely assuming there's no time travel involved since we cannot time travel back and forth right now, so how would Buzz come back and explain to 90s kids a universe to justify making a toy about him?" ]	1,391	videos	Lightyear \| Teaser Trailer
https://youtu.be/nv33eaygVDQ	/r/videos/comments/qgw3tc/bobby_gentry_ode_to_billy_joe/	[ "Fantastic song from a very talented songwriter. I love the way the string arrangement complement the southern-gothic storyline. \nBoth the the song and the lady herself have an air of mystery about them. She famously never disclosed what exactly they threw off of the bridge in the song. And Bobbie quietly withdrew from the public eye and has not done any type of press or performing in decades.", "Awesome! I can’t wait to check this out.", "That was actually me responding on my alternate account, oops. I love music history, especially country. This was fantastic. I’d heard of Cocaine and Rhinestones a while back but somehow I kept putting off listening to it.\n\nI’d never heard of her first single, “Requiem for Love” before. What a lost gem. It definitely gave me Lee Hazelwood vibes. I live for finding obscure 60’s singles like that. I also had no idea about the jazz cover of “Ode to Billie Joe” that had been sampled in so many hit songs. That just adds to the huge impact she made on pop music in only a couple of years. \n\nAnd apparently I’m not the only one who really loves that string arrangement. \n\n\nThanks for the recommendation, man. I’m doing the Harper Valley PTA episode next.", "There is a unique band called The Cat Mary that did a cover of this that I just love. you can find it here: https://youtu.be/BnP2qv6zNlA" ]	4	videos	Bobby Gentry - Ode to Billy Joe
https://youtube.com/watch?v=r8JVbsxDzLw&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/qgw4n4/every_night_my_elderly_neighbor_come_outside_and/	[ "We need more of that in this world.", "Wholesome as shit", "You have a good, good neighbour.", "Makes me wonder if he's also doing it in part to establish a pattern so that when he passes away he doesn't get eaten by his cats before his body is discovered.", "I should start doing this.", "Look at the big brain on Brett", "Wholesome NPC vibes. It's part of his daily schedule.", "Yeah I think this is a common thing elderly people do. My Nana used to have a friend that would call her every single day without fail to ask if her newspaper got delivered.\nIt did? Okay great. Have a good day" ]	8	videos	Every Night My Elderly Neighbor come Outside And Says Goodnight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1zWpv8l5_0	/r/videos/comments/qgwfas/longest_joke_in_history/	[ "I guess you never heard about the bing bang bong in the belltower.", "Or the pink banana joke", "I confess I don't know that one. Please don't tell me.", "Hahah it's some joke my big brother told me and my brother's when we were younger. And I have told all my friends the joke. It takes about 20min or longer if you are really committed, and has no punch line.", "Bing bang bong is like that. I made it last one and a half hours on a road trip once. I almost didn't make it home alive.", "Love it" ]	6	videos	Longest joke in history...
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qgwogz/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qgwogz/deleted_by_user/	[ "I'm not sure if England is the best place to visit for entertainment if this is the sort of thing that draws crowds.", "2 minutes in and I was still looking for the camera pan to the live orchestra playing the theme music. \n\nI’m still waiting OP.", "Well that was throughly disappointing.", "What is that dark figure above the Lest We Forget 1914-1918 sign in the pole in the middle of the roundabout?", "It's a silhouette of a soldier they use for remembrance material around there, might be clearer at the [Google Maps location](https://www.google.com/maps/@51.3477272,-0.5027182,3a,32.5y,262.07h,99.84t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sqxojkKxnUjfapyR6B4rAZg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DqxojkKxnUjfapyR6B4rAZg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D247.35745%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en).", "I'd always wondered why the road it came down towards that roundabout has had all the speedbumps and potholes ground to hell for ages...", "I really just sat down and watched the whole thing...", "Oh we were hoping for it to get stuck 😁", "That was good! The music made it pretty funny.", "Guessing that transformer is kinda heavy. I loled when I saw the size of it compared to the size of the monstrosity carrying it.", "They've built a podium and called up the Lord Provost to mark this momentous occasion", "Music kinda ruined it I didn't hear any English commentary.", "This is a repost of something I put up about a week ago...", "aww diddum's.", "A transformer is usually almost completely solid metal. The space which isn't filled with metal windings is filled with mineral oil. They are super heavy.", "photonicinduction's next destructive testing video's gonna be lit", "The fact they have a team of tree surgeons following it is kind of amazing.", "Yeah I felt like I was watching the intro to some 80's cop show.", "I've never been so bored in my life. Dear god that's boring.", "Jeez, quiet town eh?", "What does the white wavy lines represent?", "No parking", "Soooo... Nothing spectacular happened? This is something new. Ok. Nice. Thanks.", "If half of those people had carried a brick, and if the other half had carried a fistful of dirt, that town could have removed and replaced that roundabout faster, by hand..", "Quite a bit more than meets the eye.", "Convoy exceptionnel indeed. It's 1066 all over again.", "nods approval", "Wonder if there's a commemorative plaque somewhere 🤔", "We as humans can accomplish anything, as long as we work together! Also, fuck you roundabouts.", "These? https://www.drivingtesttips.biz/zig-zag-road-lines-markings.html", "Yes." ]	31	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/zmugNt66Jv4	/r/videos/comments/qgx10r/old_simpsons_had_some_dark_humor_sometimes/	[ "Simpson's what?", "I don't think I'll ever get bored of listening to people complain about how shit the simpsons is now. Unironically. It's so annoying that they had to just completely butcher it. It's not that it's just pandering to whatever hashtag is trending on twitter it's also that it's not clever or funny AT ALL. The writers are complete hacks.", "Aren't a bunch of them maths graduadates or something with zero comedic background? I just gave up watching altogether. I have no idea how it's still even popular enough to be profitable for the networks it runs on. There's just zero charm or wit, no layered jokes, no life lessons. I wonder if the writers are just in complete denial about how unfunny they are if they just don't care and turn up for the paycheck.", "I know. I even moderately enjoy the middle seasons (12-20ish, depending on where you draw the lines). Starting with season 18 or so I found it increasingly harder to watch, and by 20 or 21, somewhere around there, eventually got sick of it and stopped.", "You are thinking of Futurama with a bunch of college educated writers and it did great because of it.", "Right, and it seemed like the longer it went the more they were trying to find something different for them to \"do.\" It just seemed like they couldn't revisit similar events within the show so they were constantly looking for some crazy new thing for them to do which is exactly the opposite of what made it relatable. Yeah, the writers leaving I'm sure had a great deal to do with it but the absurdity of each episode one after the other just made the show feel hollow.", "I loved the early Futurama seasons, but it didn't do that well, and I don't think it necessarily did well because they were PhDs or whatever.\n\nBut yeah I think I mixed the two up.", "There were a lot of Ivy league grads in the original writers group.", "they were, that's why it was good", "“Uh oh, we’ve drawn judge Snyder.”\n\n“Is that bad?”\n\n“Well he’s sort of had it in for me ever since I kind of ran over his dog…”\n\n“You did?”\n\n“Well replace the words _kind of_ with the word _repeatedly_, and the word _dog_ with _son…_”", "I heard a great reason behind this, and the Simpons are just old. \n\nI mean, most cartoons don’t make it past the four-six season mark, and they’re going on +30. \n\nIt’s amazing that they still have a fan base at all anymore, but at this point, they’re more like that elderly family member that comes to parties and everyone tolerates but is… old… and senile… and vaguely looks like something we recognize\n.\n.\n.\nHoly shit, the Simpsons have gone full Abe Simpsons.", "The Simpsons used to be with it but then they changed what it was.", "I for one appreciate you fighting the good fight.", "I feel that you can't even predict an episode these days, mostly because it's just a collection of unrelated gags of cultural references happening.", "It’ll happen to you too.", "The Simpsons seasons 1-9 had darker humour told in a cleverer way nearly than any adult comedy since and definitely every animated comedy until Bojack Horseman. \n\nThere was a pathetic trend of “dark comedy” that boiled down to variations of, “rape exists!” \n\nThe Simpsons is a lot darker and indulgent on the legitimately terrible parts of American attitudes than I think a lot of people now acknowledge, often because it’s handled so lightly which in turn makes it darker.", "Wait - twitter? Lack of family values? Are *Liberals* destroying the Simpsons???", "My prediction: The Simpsons will not be cancelled even after the principal cast have all died of old age. Instead, new episodes will be animated and then voiced using clips from the past 40 or so seasons. Infact, they will even take voice clips from everything else Dan Castaletta, Nancy Cartwright, Yeardly Smith and Hank Azaria have ever done and use those too. This will happen for every character until eventually the entire cast has died and been replaced with rearranged recordings of their own voices. By the time the 70th season premieres in 2089, nobody watching will remember the golden age of the first ten or so seasons.", "Reading these comments has made me realize something that sorta ruined my childhood. The Simpsons is 32 years old and most shows die well before their ten year mark, the writers want to make the show so bad that everyone will say “fuck it. we don’t need the simpsons anymore. cancel it or don’t it wont make a difference” Its sad times like these when a set in stone answer to a question starts to feel more and more like a good idea, the Simpsons arent protected by that praise anymore, they could go any day now.", "They don’t need to. AI voices could become a thing here.", "I feel like the Simpsons are just ordered by default to have a name with reputation on the line up. They don’t need to be good, they just need to be there so people tune in and then get lost on their phone while listening to familiar voices in the background.", "I wonder whether they will at one point just take an identical script from an earlier season, let it get animated with the latest style and wait if someone notices it.", "Thats easily the best description I’ve ever heard on this topic, I never find myself paying attention to newer episodes although they’re always on. There’s nothing special about them anymore that grabs your attention", "This show is completely responsible for me telling my mom that she should be nicer to her children, as we were the ones that would pick the retirement home she would go to.\n\nAnd that's how I got my ass beat so hard I couldn't sit down for a few hours. Thanks for attending my Ted Talk.", "They'll just find sound alike voice actors. Same thing happened when Mel Blanc died and they had to find new voices for all the loony tune characters.", "Season 1 specifically was pretty rough in that regard. Homer was more like the abusive drunken asshole father than the loveable oaf he eventually came to be.", "and whats \"it\" seems weird and scary to me!", "Poochie returns! Voiced by Ben Shapiro", "Except the voices aren't familiar anymore. They all sound so old. Even the kids.", "Similar story with the Muppets. Show must go on!", "Doctors and hospitals to the 80% of us with shitty or no health insurance in America: \"oh ur fine!! You're half dead and need testing? Try some Tylenol and over the counter vitamins!\"", "Enjoy the savings.", "I feel really sorry for Julie Kavner. sounds like shes speaking while eating sand.", "Came to be...then went from being. Now he's just dumb with no values or redeeming qualities. It's been quite a transition... meh to WOOHOO to [ewuwuwuuruh](https://youtu.be/2WZLJpMOxS4).", "Old man yells at cloud", "Abe was a real shit to Homer growing up so it's not surprising that Homer shoved him into an old folks home the first chance he got. Everytime I hear someone mention that Homer is mean to grandpa I think of either of these two scenes:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp5V7fmuvGA\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnBr56xFCzk", "Good news everyone! They can just use the old samples to generate younger voices!", "There was a reason it was popular it satirized the typical American family. I think it stopped doing this after about season 8. But was still funny until like season 11.", "This is something people need to realize about viewership numbers. They don’t measure the people, just devices.\n\nThose who do the measurement are desperately trying to tap into ways of breaking the device barrier in various ways.\n\nI fully expect webcams in all TVs as a thing, with the TVs subsidized through selling data the camera and mic pick up. They will sell it as a big feature. Like connecting with your friends via a picture-in-picture Mode where you share your viewing.\n\nService where you rent movies could count the people in the room and offer different prices for the movie, stopping it when someone new is detected to ask for additional payment.", "Wait, wrong Groening show.", "We just call that \"humour\".\n\nAlso The Simpsons wasn't made for kids.", "Not really. Homer made more selfish decisions in season 1, but he became known as “Jerkass Homer,” meaning more insensitive and rude, after season 8.", "So what you're saying is...\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5ffaTv4ajg\n\nand/or\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U58IdBjMeS4", "Same thing with South Park, they used to be the best tv show when it came to comedy/parody, but now they just pander to current events.", "How do you even get a job writing for the Simpsons nowadays anyway? Many of the \"good Simpsons\" people will remember were written by [the same guy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Swartzwelder), and most of the rest were written by enough people to count on one hand. It's like trying to recreate the passion of the Beatles with corporate structure and paychecks.", "Old Simpsons is best Simpsons.", "Haha. My brothers and I always threaten to put our parents in a croaked home when we were young.", "Was gonna say this. Back when it came out, it was just humor.", "Family Guy and South Park did it. Wait, does this mean The Simpsons actually lost the Cartoon Wars? That's unpossible!", "Yeah, I teach there. I sewed suede patches on a leather jacket.", "maybe moe gets a cellphone\n\nhas bart ever owned a bear, or?", "i think they peaked when bart dressed up as alex from a clockwork orange for halloween.", "I can think of no cartoon darker or more existential than Ren and Stimpy", "Missed the best part of that exchange which happened just a few seconds later......\n\nHomer: \"Boy? Because you broke Grandpa's teeth, he gets to break yours.\"\n\nGrandpa: \"Oh, this is gonna be sweet.\"", "or maybe a crazy wedding, where something happens and do dodo do do......", "D‘oh!", "I almost wish they hadn't used the \"strangling Bart\" thing as a gag because you take that out it's interesting that Homer isn't a great father by any stretch of the imagination, but he's better than his own dad was", "I like BoJack but wouldn't say that it's dark humor is \"clever\", or nearly as clever as prime Simpsons, it's incapable of making a point without beating you over the head with it", "It's still \"humor\" what exactly about this couldn't be replicated today? The Simpsons had a God-tier writing staff to come up with this joke that other shows will never have, but nothing about the material is that bad", "\"He has written more than eleven novels, the most recent of which, The Squirrel Who Saved Practically Everybody, \" \n\nDed.", "I had a couple of his books on Kindle. My Kindle died over and over until I gave up telling Amazon to repair it so I can't read them anymore, but I recall that they were very funny.", "Season 9: \nThe WTC episode, \"the garbage man can\", the submarine episode, \"give what back?\", \"what's a gime?\", \"man the wind feels good on my neck\".\n\nSeason 10: \n\"my retirement grease\", \"the gorillas simply freeze to death\", \"let's get this bank back to our hideout, we'll break into it later\", \"le grille\"", "Oh, I’m with you. Never said it was on par. Just that no animated adult comedy between prime Simpsons and Bojack was anywhere near the same level. Simpsons was always the cleverer of the two.", "True. Marge, especially, really threw me. After a big gap of not watching I saw a modern episode and assumed the voice actor had changed. Then I realised \"No, she sounds a lot older because she is a lot older\".", "Dad you and your stories, Bart broke my teeth, the nurses are stealing my money, this thing on my neck is getting bigger - lol that's so cold", "Season 12 has \"Trilogy of Error\" and a couple of other good ones. I've been rewatching and am into season 13, I gotta say seasons 11, 12 and 13 are real mixed bags. Some great episodes and some that do nothing for me.", "Reminds me of a quote from the old show \"God, the Devil and Bob\" about the protagonist's father:\n>\nGod : Look, I know your father was a jerk to you, but you don't know what was in his heart.\n>\nBob : Oh, don't do this. Don't give me that crap. I don't care what was in his heart. He never shared it with me.\n>\nGod : You're right, and you're right to be mad at him, but it's not your job to forgive him; it's mine.\n>\nBob : Yeah, well.\n>\nGod : Did you know your grandfather?\n>\nBob : What? No, he never talked about him.\n>\nGod : Now he was a scary guy.\n>\nBob : Oh, so that makes it ok for my dad to treat me bad? Hah, liberals.\n>\nGod : No, that's not what I'm saying. Look, bob. Ok, picture this long line of fathers and sons stretching from Adam all the way down to Andy. Now they're all passing down this punch. From one generation to the next, father to son, and the trick is to pass on a softer punch.\n>\nGod : Your father passed on a softer punch.", "This is dark? Lol no", "Simpsons is my favourite cartoon but looking back, it's a fairly subversive show that had a massive influence on the US.\n\nBefore Married with Children and Simpsons came out, US sitcoms were extremely wholesome and family friendly and terrible. Everyone was super nice to each other and it was like watching Mormons eat dinner. FOX introduced shows that were contrary to the Disneyvision that dominated the market.\n\nDisney in the past was always very family friendly and boring to anyone between the age of 12-65 because they had no edge. When Simpsons came out, it completely changed how US sitcom families treated each other and controlled a lot of people's social opinions via satire.\n\nWhile South Park had the pulse of the youth viewers, Simpsons straight up dictated a lot of the modern social values young people follow today.\n\nSimpsons versus Ned Flanders personally led to the new rise of modern atheism, attitudes towards LGBTQ people, evolution, heavy metal, veganism, etc...", "Homer has a lot of redeeming moments as a father in the early seasons. Part of the problem of the new seasons is they took away the bad parenting (strangling, aloofness, alcoholism etc) and also removed the good parenting (buying lisa the sax, maggie being born & going back to the plant, sitting down on the kids beds when they need comfort, etc) and made him into a nothing character of d'oh and general slapstick stupidity. \n\nThe show just has 0 depth now and it's a boring merry go round of shitty jokes and cameos.", "15's not bad.q", "\"Lana Del Rey's people are willing to pay us $150,000 to give her something to do. Maybe she can sing for Bart's bear or something?\"", "How dare you disrespect South Park like this", "Do you even know who Archie Bunker is?", "Yeah, it's not just the frequency of celebrities - old Simpsons had that - but the way they're used. \n\nA lot of them were playing fictional characters created for them - Meryl Streep, Dustin Hoffman - but even the cameos were great.\n\n\"Deep Space Homer\" is, on the surface, a completely stupid premise. But thanks to how it's written and paced (it's one of the best-paced episodes ever), it all makes sense. Buzz Aldrin is there logically- ok, James Taylor is there a little less logically, but dammit, it still works, especially since they made James an interesting character. \"Listen, I'm not as laid-back as everyone thinks. So here's the deal: I'm gonna play, and you're gonna float there, and like it.\"\n\nAnd let's not forget they had Buzz Aldrin mock himself. \n\nHow would they do \"Deep Space Homer\" today? Simple. Whichever scumbag out of Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos paid the most, they'd have him run into Homer at the park and say \"Say, would you like to go into space on one of my rockets?!\" in the first thirty seconds And that would be the entire premise of the ep.", "Oh yes, good call.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/4Qc9yR8VfW0\n\n70s sitcoms like Archie Bunker and Jeffersons were popular because they were kind of mean to each other, same as Simpsons, which was also derivative of the Flintstones and the Honeymooners. \"Pow, straight to the moon\" seems fairly similar to Homer strangling Bart. \n\nI mean the other kind of family friendly sitcoms like Brady Bunch, Eight is Enough, Silver Spoons, Different Strokes, and a ton others that were so squeaky clean suburban 'Americana'.", "Bart owned an elephant. He called him stampy.", "Oh O forgot about that. I could hear Abe saying that. Genuinly made me laugh.", "Which is funny because growing up God forbid I was exposed to a show with such bad influences.\n\nLiterally.", "Very subversive. I remember that my mother severely disapproved of that show and God forbid (literally) I be exposed to such an influence.", "It's weird that I'm so obsessed with a show that is older than me. \n\nThat is weird...I'm not gonna deny it.", "The Reagan years were terrible. Simpsons was a breath of fresh air to all that stuff.", ">\tand I don’t think it necessarily did well because they were PhDs or whatever.\n\nA fair amount of jokes while not really needing a college education to understand were more dependent on havi f a splid graps of math and science. It fertisnky wasnt the main reason it was liked but i knew many people that liked it for that", "Idk man they still do a pretty solid job of parodying current events, the only issue I’ve had is the over arching plots aren’t that great.", "Yeah shit man I looked it up that was the entirety of the 80s and the simpsons was just kicking off toward the end. I'm not American but it doesn't seem like people were fond of Ronald Reagan. Didn't he try to create some military for in space. Tried to name it something flashy like star wars?", "top comment on that song:\n\n>1 year ago\n\n>this year, Marge became a robot, not once but twice. and selma did date grandpa. \n\nis that actually true lmao\n\n-e- haha nobody can tell me, cause nobody watches the show", "… you’re actually 100% right. I completely blanked on South Park when writing the comment. I absolutely love that show. I… I… I need to sit down.", "One thing for me that ruined the Simpsons is the new animation style they use. It just seems to fluid in characters movements.", "Simpsons has hit Buggs Bunny and Micky Mouse level. There is never going to be a moment in time where they are done with the property.", "Marge now sounds like her mum in the early seasons. Poor Julie voice is gone. \n\nStill crazy to me that Marge and Homer are meant to be in their late 30s.", "So she chose \"park bench with newspaper\", got it.", "[Timestamp Video Link](https://youtu.be/l0Yf011ayqA?list=PLRqiuTHq8yEoiZoj_SlgEzb9_JjROsIPy&t=1087)\n\nTurns out this show is all on Youtube.", "Nothing in this clip is dark humour.", "> le grille\n\nWhat the hell is that?!", "I wonder why Adam's father punched him so hard in the first place.", "> Simpsons versus Ned Flanders personally led to the new rise of modern atheism\n\nBut the Simpsons were all explicitly Christian. There was a whole episode about Homer deciding not to go to Church, and God himself forgiving him for it.", "Nah, parents divorced shortly after I graduated. Mom turned into a pack rat with poor health and passed in 2017 in my childhood home. Loved my mom and didn't put her in a home because she didn't want to go to one, just wish she would have let her sons get her some help around the house. Woman had a chip on her shoulder like you wouldn't believe.", "Personally I enjoyed the last season, it improved a lot IMO." ]	98	videos	Old Simpson’s had some dark humor sometimes
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qgxzzj/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qgxzzj/deleted_by_user/	[ "I expect locust swarms and frog rain any day now.", "I don't know about the rest of you but I'm more then happy to leave Tiger King in 2020.\n\nAlso, part of the original intent of Tiger King was to highlight how corrupt, unethical, and barbaric private zoos/the exotic animal trade is. If they're going to continue this, can we at least do something about that?", "I'm surprised that they're not looking into Doc Antle more. That guy definitely had some shadey shit going on.", "I feel like Tiger King is now an omen of bad things to come. They should keep this in the vault.", "Can we stop giving these terrible people attention and fame, please?", "I'm sure they have amped up the ham with enough bullshit so that most of my alchoholic stoner friends are going to watch it with great enthusiasm.\n\nI can already hear one, mid-toke, going \"ave you seen that tiger king 2? It's so fucking sick!\"\nAnd I can already hear myself going, \"yeah, no I haven't uhuh?\"\nAnd them trying to explain whatever wacky scenario entered their mind at that point...\n\n\nBesides those guys I have no idea who the audience for this sequel series is.", "Original Tiger King had the veneer of a documentary to make it seem legit. Looks like this will be full-on reality TV, which will enable a bunch of terrible behavior from seriously damaged people. No thanks.", "Honestly I am not touching this new season. The first one at least could fall back on wanting to improve the wellbeing of animals in captivity, and highlighting awful people who take advantage of those animals for their own benefit. If this new season instead pivoted on Tiger King's success and focused on others like Doc to help the animals under their \"care\" I would be all for it. But it just looks like Netflix trying to stir shit up for drama.", "I mean, all 'ol Doc really has to do (or any of these weirdos), is stop participating with the production team. If anything, one of them dropping out should suggest they have something more valuable than the money and fame opportunity the show gives them.", "I wouldn't mind if they did a new documentary on declawing cats, both big and small. \n\n[The Paw Project](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paIfc7Qd2Yc) is about a vet who did amazing work reattaching the tendons of big cats who were \"declawed\" (read: Their paws are amputated at the first knuckles) and the tendons allowed to retract without being reattached, which left the animals unable to walk normally.\n\nShe became known for that and was amazed by all the people contacting her about their household cats, whose amputations can leave them with the same issues. \n\nThe purpose of declawing is supposedly to keep the animal from ruining furniture--kind of like people who don't realize their small dogs are big dogs at heart and don't bother to train them, just manhandle them.\n\nThey claim it's not bad for the cat--except that shelters who get declawed cats generally have trouble rehoming them, since it can leave the poor kitty with behavioral problems. \n\nI have one right now, because my brother makes a point of getting any declawed ones from the shelter so they won't be put down. Poor little guy refuses to use a litterbox, but I eventually realized it's because he prefers a peepad, which doesn't hurt him to stand on. \n\nHe was an older cat, too--another negative--and recently had a stroke. I'm damned if I'll let him go back to a shelter. He's here till he passes.", "Nope. I will gladly watch this. Its probably going to be entertaining as hell." ]	11	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/Bdf_XdDwc-o	/r/videos/comments/qgyj0g/painfully_accurate_satire_of_being_a_history/	[ "Holy shit this is everything to being a teacher.", "It's so annoying when teachers do that though. It's clear when the students are clueless and this only makes everyone frustrated. Just say what it is already....", "Dumbass kids lmao im so much smarter than all of these idiots", "Then everyone just either doesn't listen or forgets instantly. Any good teacher has given all the info or tools needed to answer; the exception being at the start of a topic where you need to work out what background info has been missed and needs to be covered first (what and where is Europe in this case)." ]	4	videos	Painfully accurate satire of being a History teacher
https://youtu.be/NVg45DtHAQk	/r/videos/comments/qgyjct/lonely_man_asks_internet_for_fishing_buddy_the/	[ "It’s great he went on all these trips but I think he was just looking for a local guy to hang out with every other weekend to shoot the breeze and not catch much with.", "I hope he got an actual fishing buddy though. This implies he didn't.", "This is a wholesome story but it is hard to upvote stories made by youtubers like this one. He does have some history of rephrasing buzzfeed articles." ]	3	videos	Lonely Man Asks Internet For Fishing Buddy: The Story of Ray Johnstone
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qgylbq/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qgylbq/deleted_by_user/	[ "That's creepy", "144p is what is creeping me out here.", "Always a shitty footage." ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qgz4xu/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qgz4xu/deleted_by_user/	[ "Okay. They’ve got my attention.", "Wow this looks legit great, or at least this trailer does. Excellent use of Bowie. Almost gives me Interstellar vibes which is surprising from a Pixar movie.", "So is this supposed to be the “movie” the “toy” is based off of", "“Yes”", "No one asked for this", "Wow this looks seriously very cool, my inner child is flipping out.", "When do I get MY gritty origin story?", "Well godamn I didnt know I needed this", "But everyone is glad its being made", "This look cooler than it should.", "Is it still voiced by Tim Allen?", "No" ]	12	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/52EnTtGstKg	/r/videos/comments/qgzia9/god_bless_america_in_2012_hits_even_harder_eight/	[ "Wow, never saw this before. He makes a great point", "Yeah, kind of woke me up to some of my own attitudes and behaviors. We don't really have discussions lately, just flamewars. Someone always throws out an insult and then we end up posturing about who can have an epic win with facts and logic over the other person.", "I've got to watch this movie again.", "Hey that's Bill Murray's brother who plays Freddy on Mad Men\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCzTZSa3teo", "I actually thought about this movie the other day. Its such a good movie and now im gonna have to watch it again.", "This is the kind of stupid shit this video was talking about.", "Which movie is this?", "What movie? “God Bless America?” I never heard of it but this clip was pretty kick ass I’ll have to check it out.", "Have you seen mad men?", "Yeah and even then, as soon as one person feels like they are losing ground, they dismiss the other by relating them to someone that isn’t worth talking to (racist, bigot, homophobe, nazi, etc…)", "Such a great movie", "\"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.\"\n\nAttributed to Eleanor Roosevelt.", "God Bless America", "Yeah but whats the movie called tho", "God Bless America", "Wait until he skeet shoots a baby out of the air with a 12 gauge", "Is mad men good? always heard of it, what kind of points does it try to make? or is it just a distraction with no philosophical aspect?", "I can't believe this was '12. Felt like it just came out. Great movie\n\nIf you liked this you might get a kick out of [Super](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLj_Bzw8n90) and the classic [Falling Down](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlzm7-gvTRg) if you haven't seen them already.", "First few seasons were entertaining, dropped off at the end", "Or conversely they scream about ANTIFA, BLM, Communism, etc.\n\nI'm pretty left wing but I do actually have conservative friends that I disagree with on a number of issues.\n\nAnd it's easy to tell the difference between conservatives and Nazis: ask them what they think about Jews.\n\nThe Conservative will usually react by saying something like Tolkien did when asked by the Nazis if he was an Aryan:\n\n>Thank you for your letter. I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by arisch. I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-Iranian; as far as I am aware none of my ancestors spoke Hindustani, Persian, Gypsy, or any related dialects. But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people. My great-great-grandfather came to England in the eighteenth century from Germany: the main part of my descent is therefore purely English, and I am an English subject — which should be sufficient. I have been accustomed, nonetheless, to regard my German name with pride, and continued to do so throughout the period of the late regrettable war, in which I served in the English army. I cannot, however, forbear to comment that if impertinent and irrelevant inquiries of this sort are to become the rule in matters of literature, then the time is not far distant when a German name will no longer be a source of pride.\n\nThe Neo Nazi or Reactionary will usually begin to rant about postmodern neo-marxism and jewish bolshevism, or jewish bankers, or jewish people being \"overrepresented in the media.\"\n\nNazis care that Jews still exist.\n\nConservatives are suspicious of taxation and the ability of government action to solve problems.\n\nThe former is a deal breaker, the latter is worthy of debate.\n\nAnd when it comes to Conservatives being very worried about traditional American ways of life, the left ought to be quite sympathetic.\n\nConsider the plight of small farmers in much of small town America, especially chicken farmers. They're being absolutely crushed right now by giant corporations who get massive tax refunds and subsidies thanks to the farm bills. See John Oliver's work on the topic [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9wHzt6gBgI).\n\nConservatives and Progressives could actually come together around that issue, and work together to protect small town America from predatory big businesses, thus protecting more traditional ways of life in the countryside and alleviating some of the justified anxiety.\n\nIt cuts to the core of things conservatives care about. We're allowing ourselves to be distracted over social issues tangentially related to the real threats to traditional American ways of life - such as the existence of trans people, whose rights are not something progressives are or should be willing to compromise on. \n\nBut if we looked at the real sources of anxieties about traditional American ways of life, many of which are economic and have been ignored, and many of which have in cases been made worse by allies of companies like Monsanto in both parties and by federal action, we really ought to be able to come together and do something for the countryside and the folks struggling out there in addition to helping people in the cities.\n\nAnd I think conservatives and progressives ought to be willing to come together and shout down the Nazis. Who are doing everything they can to divide Americans by pretending to be conservatives, and who tend to be bitter basement dwellers that are terminally online because they have nothing better to do with their lives than argue on reddit.\n\nI think that's going to take some intellectual charity on the left, and some backbone by people on the right. And the left does have sort of a Tankie problem where people who hate what they see as US Imperialism worship Chinese and Russian imperialism. But we've actually been developing a backbone to stand up to those assholes.\n\nConservatives and Progressives can come together in those areas where we agree and agree to fight back against the totalitarians.\n\nWe are not likely to agree on social issues. But on things like taxing our money back from the billionaires (the few trillions of dollars we gave them via quantitative easing and bailouts for the financial crisis when they ran out of our money the first time, and we... gave them more of our money), protecting the little guy in the city and the countryside, not wasting American lives and treasure on unwinnable wars that kill innocent civilians, and a whole host of other issues where I find some level of agreement with my conservative friends.\n\nBut here's the main problem: We focus on where we disagree rather than trying to find the spaces where we do agree, and get things done around those issues.\n\nAnd I think protecting small farms and the traditional communities built around them is one place where we really can come together. But lately, we're allowing ourselves to be distracted.", "As someone that is now labeled as being of having an opposing views from which you have, I agree. I used to consider myself a libertarian but the goals have moved so far that now I am labeled a conservative. I really wish people were more willing to have conversations with each other with the aim to find common ground because I truest believe we all have far more in common than the collective wants us to believe.", "Guess I'm the outlier here, but I found this completely awful. The cheesy \"people can't have a conversation without looking at their phones!\" trope, the boasting about his virtues two minutes after fantasizing about murdering all his coworkers, the ridiculously judgemental \"32 million people have nothing worthwhile to say to me\" line of thinking. This guy's character is just a sad, cynical asshole with a superiority complex. \n\nThis character is the kind of person you should probably be avoiding in your life, not seeking inspiration from. What a an absolutely terrible outlook to have on life.", "The biggest big brains discuss quotes. - me, 2021", "It's very good. Up there with the Sopranos in my opinion.\n\nAnd yes there are plenty of \"deep\" points it makes. An important theme is how people project themselves vs how we truly are. It's also about the American dream and the artificially of capitalist consumer society. It's plenty philosophical, I've seen it 3 times and you catch new things on every rewatch.\n\nAt it's core it's a very character driven period drama about people in the '60s. If that's your thing I couldn't recommend it enough.", "And people ask my why I don't ever want to work in a North American \noffice ever again.", "I feel like the ending is spot-on as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPhkI77K8uQ", "Yeah it had some good points, but overall was just wayyyy too preachy with inorganic monologues throughout. Like someone just barfed out some blog rants into a script and made a bunch of strawmen to bounce themselves off of for easy fodder.\n\n-- which was annoying because I agreed on a lot of stuff from the protagonist, just... don't deliver it so bluntly, my dude.\n\nI think [I Don't Feel at Home in This World Anymore](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a891D5_bGY4) was a slight improvement to the same concept of boiled over cynicism.", "Alternatively, seeking the people he’s describing who are absolutely real and common, use Reddit as evidence, is worse.", "Yeah you aren’t supposed to think this dude is a good guy. Even just in this speech you can see his hypocrisy when he speaks out against cruelty and judgment then calls the parents who also live in the same “paper thin walls” as him “Neanderthals” for not being able to stop their baby from crying. He has the same superficial outlook on humanity that he complains about but in a much more dangerous variation.\n\nAlso the part where later in the movie he kills hundreds of random people and takes a teenage girl with him.", "Libertarians are a form of conservative though, just like Social Democrats fall under what the overton window in the US calls \"liberals\" even though both Libertarians and Social Democrats would object to being called conservative and liberal respectively.\n\nAnd yeah, I agree that we have a lot more in common, and I wish we'd start treating the serious issues we're dealing with seriously. Too many people treat politics the same way they treat sports where it's my team all the way right or wrong.\n\nI'd consider myself a Classical Libertarian by the way. We're closer to left-Anarchists than any other group out there.", "Hmm that’s interesting. I would consider myself a constitutional libertarian. I have never heard the term left-anarchist but I have to think that based on that term that a lot of what you would value, I would value. I would love to see the size and rule of government greatly decreased.", "I feel like if this came out recently, it would hit the mark on all the negative reviews in this post. However, this nine years ago was a over the top view of the America we pretty much become. In 2021 its satire. In 2012 it was insight.", "You're not alone. Frank wants to murder coworkers and rig phones to burn the skin off 32 million innocent people's faces, yet is complaining that people don't want to be civilized and they lack virtue. He has no idea the depth of character that his coworkers have, nor the content of their conversations outside of work. Even less so with the 32 million fans of American Superstar.\n\nThe better person is actually the coworker who has sit next to Frank every day and still tries to be engaging with him. That's gotta be tough, but he still tries.", "I think that's part of the point.\n\nThe part I mostly agree with is how nasty we've gotten to each other over time. I don't really care about reality TV and the like, I just ignore it, and people are allowed to like what they like, but in the ways we're allowing ourselves to be divided and refusing to listen to the other side and just insulting each other in comments sections is sort of spot on.", "Thank you", "> He didn't suggest any conversation topics that people should be pursuing in the office place. In all honesty, there's not much that is safe to talk about in the office anymore so we all just default to talking about our kids, pets, movies, shows, and sports (as long as you don't bring up kneeling).\n\nSomeone made a video about that. \"I hate Mondays\" I think it was called.\n\nI mean, I've never really had a problem talking about issues but that's because I try to be sensitive to the person I'm talking to.\n\n>He's complaining about people being edgy and yet his arguments are ultimate edge-lord material.\n\nThat's part of the irony here. What sort of hits me about this is the way we all tend to insult each other when we disagree and things become not about having discussions but about DESTROYING the OTHER SIDE with FACTS and LOGIC or just throw memes around.", "So... from my perspective power structures are bad. Whether that's capitalism, the state, or any other institution with power, anything that has power represents a restriction of human liberty.\n\nBut these systems all exist for a reason, and are maintained because some system is needed for society to function. We need a way to get food from farms into the cities, and we've decided capitalism is the way to do that, despite the many ways in which it represents a severe restriction on human liberty the same way that states do, because it's a power structure.\n\nWhen it comes to the state, whether it be a democracy or an absolute monarchy with a king, or a dictatorship, they all have been created to secure rights.\n\nIn the case of a monarch, the right to property which includes all humans living in his domain, his subjects. When it comes to a dictatorship, it exists to protect the dictator and his allies, and secure their control over the economy.\n\nDemocracy is supposed to balance out all these issues and give voters the ability to control all these things either via the state or within their own hands.\n\n\"To secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,\" says the DoI. \n\nSo from the classical libertarian perspective, which is in line with the framers of the constitution in a ton of ways, as well as thinkers like Thomas Paine, the best way to get rid of the power structures is to get rid of the reason for their existence.\n\nPart of what the state does is to secure property. The way to end that power structure is to create a scenario in which property does not need to be secured, because everyone within society will have enough of what they need that taking someone else's property would be utterly pointless.\n\nAnd there are a number of steps we could take to get there... but that's a much longer conversation.\n\nA system of force, whether the force is the threat of starvation and homelessness unless someone submits to the will of the economically powerful, or if it exists as the monopoly of violence of the state, is a restriction on human liberty and ought to be gotten rid of.\n\nLeft Market Anarchists like the Center for a Stateless Society would argue that market exchange and trade will almost definitely have to continue. So left-Anarchists and classical libertarians are not necessarily opposed to market-based exchange, but are opposed to the threat of starvation being used to coerce labor from those who lack economic power at a rate below what those laborers would be willing to accept without the threat of that force.\n\nSo for us, the elimination of coercion, force, and the threat of force is key.", "A small group of people are highly invested in generating simple narratives that are making people more distant and feel more apart.\n\nSimplicity and convenience are the true and most alluring traps, and everything is being distilled into the most simple forms for ingestion, which removes the truth along with the complexity.\n\nThough in part I agree with what this clip is saying, I think it too is removing the truth and complexity from the people around the character.", "I agree with that wholeheartedly. \n\nSimple narratives are a big problem, and I actually ranted about that earlier today myself.", "Did you actually see the full film? Because without spoiling too much, the story arch ends up teaching him a lesson about being so judgmental.", "I think that's kinda the subtext of the movie. Frank starts out hyper cynical to the point he gets fed up and rather than continuing to challenge the people around him with discourse he gives in to the violent \"shock and awe\" that is so commonly seen in American pop culture today. The last line hints to that. \"Why have a civilization anymore if we no longer are interested in being civilized.\" He doesn't go on a rampage because that's what he thinks civilized people do, he rampages because he gives up on civilization. Not only that, but he agrees to bring along Roxy which I think could allude to the inspiring of the younger generation to be just as cynical and poorly adaptive. \n\nFrank isn't an anti-hero that should be lauded for his critical thinking and bravado for doing what he believes is righteous retaliation. Frank is the pendulum swinging in the extreme other direction, rather than remaining in civil discussion he loses his shit and imposes his own views on the world around him. The violence of the movie itself is showing you what you want to see, pandering to the American bloodlust in television while we piss and moan about the moral quandaries of reality TV. God Bless America isn't warning people about the moral decline of pop culture, it's warning you about yourself and how easy it is to succumb to pandering entertainment as long as it has a premise and the right spin. You might even see the good side of a homicidal maniac bringing an underaged girl cross country to kill everyone they deem a nuisance.", "one of my favourite films, in the same vein as Falling Down. I'm surprised I haven't seen any of the two leads doing anything major since.", "If you read it the right way, Falling Down could be very popular today. You could easily view the movie as a condemnation of middle-class, white male culture. The protagonist of Falling Down is little more than an a mediocre office worker with a superiority complex. He is a violent racist and an abusive father trying desperately to convince himself that he's the victim -- and the movie makes it clear that this is not the case. Along with the protagonist from God Bless America, he believes in some Disneyland version of past America, where everyone was intelligent, witty, moral, and classy and nobody was ever stupid, vain, racist, or cruel. \n\n\nThese sort of revenge-fantasy movies are only worth anything if they implicate the protagonist along with the society they condemn. Falling Down is a great example of a character who fails to understand that he is just as full of shit as the society he lives in. Righteous indignation without self-awareness is a bad thing.", "> how nasty we've gotten to each other over time.\n\nIt's, just not the case really. When was the last lynch mob you heard of? That shit used to happen regular like. Ever see an overweight person around someone 2 generations ahead of you? Calling people fat, right to their face, was almost a moral imperative back then. People haven't gotten nastier. You're looking back with rose colored glasses. \n\nBut, there is a double edged sword that makes things different now: smartphones. On one hand, more than ever, we have video evidence of people acting like complete demons to each other. On the other hand, people are starting to catch on that anything you do in public, could be recorded and posted on the internet. So people will start to mind their manners better probably.", "Right, even with the disastrous outcome and living through the consequences, todays people will continue to believe in this. The worst part, these people are celebrated.\n\nI admit I was a fan of this movie when it came out in 2012 however after seeing how people have gravitated towards this type of behavior in real life its kind of disturbing.\n\nGreat post BTW.", "Just want to say that the writer for this movie is Bobcat Goldthwait who I had been following extensively in interviews and podcasts in the lead up to this movie and Frank is NOT meant to be looked at as anything but a psychopath in this movie. \n\nHe is an unreliable narrator. We see the world through his eyes where everyone is out to make him miserable. He spends most of the movie after this murdering teenagers who do things like talking too loud in a movie theater or acting spoiled to their parents.\n\nJust want to say this as it is certainly not the case of a Hollywood writer getting on a soap box because he doesn’t like office work.\n\nAnother great movie by Bobcat is “World’s greatest dad” starring Robin Williams who also plays a character that does awful things but justify them to himself by thinking about how unfair life has been to him.", "It's really interesting. I haven't seen the movie and on the face of it he seems reasonable, akin to the \"I can't take it anymore\" rant from Network. \n\nBut what you write holds true. It's more than a tired tirade of the 'American Failure^@' and more a self reflecting piece on what is ultimately wrong with modern society - and not just American: The inability to respect and tolerate each other in a way too crowded society and the inability to recognize it in yourself.", "You nailed it. I always think back to 15 years ago when I was a 19 year old data analyst who smoked a loooooot of weed. I joined the party planning committee cos I thought it would make my coworkers giggle. Then I thought \"oh, I can do some good and make awesome birthdays for everyone, and especially the people that feel left out.\" Silly me! \n\nThe one woman who I got a cake for, and sent the email \"I'm not coming, eat your damn cake.\" Was both a great French reference, and an even more French nihilism response. Oopies.", "It’s an excellent movie. I highly recommend it along with one of the director’s other movies “Worlds Greatest Dad”. Both of them have main characters who do awful things but justify them to themselves by talking about how unfair the world has been to them.\n\nIt’s subtle enough that some people will think that the characters make a good point, but it is clear with full context that they are unreliable narrators.", "Twitter lynch mobs are very much a thing. I've seen them first hand attack someone on Twitter and have the consequences spill over into real life and try to end their career (Irish university) or \"cancel\" them.", "Holy shit it's Cole Phelps", ">\tThis guy’s character is just a sad, cynical asshole with a superiority complex.\n\nSo, Reddit. It’s why this website is a cancer, they’re all this guy: angry white dudes who can’t get laid.", "Haha yeah he's got a unique look. The only thing that bothered me in the movie was, spoiler: >!was the sex scene or more accurately, the rape scene!<", "It's just like Falling Down. Here, you also aren't supposed to like the guy (i hope, i've never heard of this film before.). The people that like him are supposed to wake up and realise \"they're the bad guy\".", "I don't think anybody is immune to simple narratives either. They're compelling.\n\nLook at every political discussion on this website - they typically devolve into both sides demonizing the other side as evil or idiots, twisting every argument so that the opposing side becomes a very comfortable straw man.\n\nFor example... If you only listen to people on the right, you would think that liberals are perfectly happy with abortions, that we want abortions to be used as birth control so that people don't have to be responsible for their own mistakes. If you listen to the left, however, you would think that there is some sort of secret cabal of mustache-twirling GOP monsters that have a secret agenda of trying to control women for, I guess, their own shits and giggles.\n\nBut both are egregious distortions of each other's beliefs and purposes, in order to simplify a very complicated issue into one that makes whichever side you're on seem like the righteous one.\n\nAnd, hey, I catch myself doing it too. It's hard to accept that your opponent has a point with some of their positions. It's easier to call them morons, and it certainly feels good. A simple world is a more pleasant one. But it's not reality.", "Fantastic TV show. One of the best. It is perhaps as philosophical as they come if you give it the time. Can't recommend it enough.", "Haha I was thinking about the one with ~~Ellen Page~~ Elliot Page but yes Liv Tyler is top tier.\n\nEdit: Sorry, Elliot Page.", "Shit my bad I totally forgot that", "... I'm not sure what to say to this but I appreciate the comment. And I'm going to think about it. Thank you.", "It's not really \"offensive,\" it's a regional cultural thing.\n\nWhere I'm from \"guys\" is non-gender specific. But there are people from parts of the US where \"guys\" means the same as \"Men\" or \"Gentlemen.\"\n\nIt's the same with Lads. The Irish use Lads in a way that is nongendered, but the Brits use it in a way that implies a male gender. \n\nAnd so I've got Irish family members who keep getting corrected because they work in the UK and say \"lads\" all the time in ways that make people uncomfortable.\n\nSo guys can make some women and some transpeople extremely uncomfortable if they grew up in an environment where guys is specifically only referring to men. I think it's somewhere west of where I am, not sure where specifically, but I've had cis women tell me it makes them uncomfortable.\n\n\"Gentlemen\" was the standard back in the 1980s, but got replaced with stuff like Guys.\n\n\"Folks\" is probably the best one to use now. Or \"Everybody.\"\n\nEnglish speakers are a people separated by a common language.", "That’s the point of the movie. He’s a piece of shit just like everyone else.", "Yea....back in the day lynch mobs ended with either being covered in hot tar and feathers, or being hung from a tree.", "I forgot about this movie! It’s goddamn bananas.", "He was saying he doesn't agree with that. Maybe pay attention because he was talking about the disc jockeys his cubicle neighbor brought up. i.e. he was criticizing them not agreeing.", "/iam14andthisisdeep", "I watched this movie and I can tell you you’re definitely misinterpreting this monologue.\n\nEdit: Sorry for feeding the troll, everyone", "It's just a shit version of Joker.", "9 years?", "Ten actually. It’s from 2011. COVID has fucked my sense of time.", "How old are you?", "Thanks for saying that. I haven't seen the movie and as I'm watching this I'm thinking \"He's not all wrong, but he's also a miserable person who's angry that others aren't as miserable as he is.\"\n\nWhich, yeah, probably is a good commentary on society.", "Mid 30s. I remember joining reddit in 2011, and despite rancor over Obama and Race, being able to have some fairly civil debates with conservatives right up until the point that reddit conservatives stopped being Ron-Paul loving libertarians for the most part and started going full Tea Party.\n\nAnd I've watched things get nastier ever since. It probably climaxed with the_donald in 2015 and there are some subreddits where it's still possible to have a conversation, but in a lot of other areas people just insult each other.\n\nI was actually at Occupy Wall St in New York City, and remember sitting down with tea partiers and actually having a civil conversation.\n\nIn 2015 I'd moved to DC and was able to have a... mostly civil conversation with people wearing MAGA hats. They asked me why people hated Donald Trump so much, and I talked about his behavior in NYC as a corrupt landlord and how he's basically the archetype of what city people despise as a result. They were shocked when they heard what city rents were like. \n\nAnd when they asked why people didn't just move, I explained that there weren't any jobs out there which paid enough to cover the moving costs. \n\nBut things got worse in meatspace a few weeks after the inauguration. I was at my local bar, and this guy who was a conservative started talking politics with me, and asked what I thought of trump in this sort of triumphant way.\n\nAnd I said I was looking forward to shutting him down as hard as the tea party had shut Obama down. We'd been laughing and joking and having some fun jokey posturing up to that point and he got red in the face mad when I said that.\n\n\"So you don't respect the president of the united states?\" he said, or something like that I don't remember the actual words.\n\nAnd I said that if conservatives wanted us to respect a conservative president, they needed to vote for someone we'd see as worthy of respect. A jeb bush, or a marco rubio. Someone we'd disagree with but who didn't insult us constantly. If they wanted to get anything done in washington, they needed to vote for someone half the country was willing to work with. Trump ain't that.\n\nHe got so furious as I was talking that he stormed out of the bar, and left his wife to pay the tab.\n\nAnd I kept having interactions like that in person and online, with the exception of some folks who called themselves independents.\n\nIn my area there are republicans I've respected and worked with, and they've all left the GOP. \n\nMy conservative in laws had to ban all political discussions at family gatherings because they were all at each others' throats. \n\nMy wife's family cannot have a civil political discussion any longer when I used to dearly enjoy having civil but enthusiastic free-wheeling debates with my mother in law.\n\nSo yeah. My experience of this is that it's worse than it has ever been, even during the Bush administration, because I could still talk to people then I can't talk to now.", "Here's the thing: You can be a raging hypocrite and still be right. \n\nNo, he is not a good guy. But he does have a point.", "Great movie.", "This is the killing spree movie. I thought that was more recent like 2016 or something.", "Just the fact that this clip starts off with the character graphically fantasizing about shooting his coworkers should be enough to signal that he is not a hero type.", "Similar to the Unabomber really. He had some excellent observations in his manifesto, doesn't make him any less of an asshole.", "That's the thing with a true misanthrope. They hate people and themselves for being human.", "What’s crazy is I am totally addicted to it. I know it’s bad but the second I get bored or have some down time… here I am. \n\nI mean look at me now…", "This movie is like an amalgamation of a few classics... Office Space, A Serious Man, and The Network. All are some of my favorite flicks!", "The Unabomber (Ted Kaczynski) is a perfect real world example of this type of Anti-Hero shown in several movies. You feel for them and understand them, but ultimately, you also don't want to be like them (hopefully).", "Just like Dfens in Falling Down is a BAD GUY but you got all these people \"but actually\" over him.", "Sometimes there's never enough to convince everyone a character is bad. \n\nLots of people think Dfens in Falling Down is a hero...", "Wasn't he basically provoked and goaded until he snapped by his University, on orders from the CIA? I remember it was something along those lines, pretty fucked up.", "That rant was the same, though, right? You weren't supposed to agree with Beale because he was just as wrong as this guy. He was being exploited by the network, his empty, useless anger being harnessed for views.", "He's the bad guy? How'd that happen?", "The writer wrote a story about a bad guy, it got picked up by a studio, they casted it, then they filmed the movie.", "I dunno, I did laugh when he shot the baby in the air, that was pretty funny.", "Love this movie. Didn't know Bobcat Goldthwait wrote and directed it until I got it on DVD. Such a beautiful piece of social commentary.", "I've never seen this, should I watch it?", "Beezlebrody was making a joke from a quote from said movie.", "And I made a joke reply\n\nYes that's the last line of the movie, isn't it?\n\nI fell flat here, carry on", "This is some r/im14andthisisdeep shit.", "SpongeBob dies at 1:07. This is written and directed by Bobcat Goldthwait. Him and Tom Kenny were best friends as kids and started comedy together and went by Bobcat and Tomcat.", "Still waiting on that \"Two Girls, One Cup\" dating show...", "Umm, did you pay attention in math class?\n2012+8=2020, it’s almost 2022.", "My joke didn't land I'll take my lumps", "Good guy or not this man has a point.", ">Yeah it had some good points, but overall was just wayyyy too preachy with inorganic monologues throughout. Like someone just barfed out some blog rants into a script and made a bunch of strawmen to bounce themselves off of for easy fodder.\n>\n>-- which was annoying because I agreed on a lot of stuff from the protagonist, just... don't deliver it so bluntly, my dude.\n>\n>I think [I Don't Feel at Home in This World Anymore](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a891D5_bGY4) was a slight improvement to the same concept of boiled over cynicism.\n\nBoiled over cynicism is the perfect term for reddit and twitter tbh", "For the record, I got it and if I got it then most people who've seen the movie got it.", "12+8=21? \n\nIt must, cause math = racist.", "There is a scene that is so well acted in World’s Greatest Dad that it effected me for days. Robin Williams was a goat and a half.", "[ Jump to 01:07 @ God Bless America (2012) Frank rants](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52EnTtGstKg&t=0h1m7s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: nevadakubrick, Video Popularity: 97.86%, Video Length: [06:13])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@01:02](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52EnTtGstKg&t=0h1m2s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "This guy is super pleb\n\n&#x200B;\n\nyou arent supposed to bitch about people not havuing real conversations\n\n&#x200B;\n\nyou are supposed to go out and get a hobby then have a real conversation\n\n&#x200B;\n\nthis dude monologuing bitching about it like a slob instead of actually doing something about it to better his life in his world view. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nSo no this monologue is trash and the bum in the movie is a douche that needs to fuckin get ahooby and stop being a cunt about how everyone else lives their life.", "Unfortunately, a lot like Falling Down, a surprising number of people somehow manage to misunderstand the film completely. 🤦‍♂️\n\nJoel Murray gets a lot of work though? I’m always seeing that dude pop up in stuff…", "It's a little more nuanced than that. Ted started attending Harvard at age 16. In his second year, he agreed to take part in a psychological study led by Henry Murray. They asked Ted to basically describe a lot of his personal beliefs and why he believed them. After they had all of this \"ammunition\" they brutally subjected him to people berating him about why all of his beliefs were wrong and stupid. \n\nIt's widely believed that Henry Murray was taking part in MKUltra mind control experiments led by the CIA. Due to the classified nature, poor/destroyed documentation, and the fact that the CIA didn't want anybody to know about any of these experiments, it's hard to say exactly what the purpose and also the long term effects were.\n\nKaczynski himself claims that the experiments had no significant effect on the course of his life, but it's hard to say something so traumatic not changing how you perceive a lot of things later on in life. Ted could be in denial or having repressed a lot of the trauma from these experiments, but there isn't a way to know for sure. Some people have argued that this could have led to his violence in later years, but it should be noted that he didn't send his first mail bomb until 19 years later after the start of these experiments", "Holy shit are you really comparing consequences of what someone says online to literal group murder?", "Getting a total Andy Richter vibe from him.", "That's a large point of the film. He complains so much bout all of these things he hates so much, yet fails to avoid them at any point. Like you said, he complains about people who can't look away from their phones, yet when he gets home, all he does is flip through channels of shows that he hates. It's his fault for surrounding himself in it. Like, read a fucking book lol.\n\nThe hypocrisy is there to highlight the fact that his world view is wrong, and it just seems so bad to him because he hyperfocuses on the things he hates, spiraling his feelings even further downward. \n\nThe same thing with the girl, her complaints about the world are so superficial, and later in the movie she talks about being \"..a million times smarter than other people.\", which would fit perfectly into her list of reasons to kill people.\n\nIn the end, they're both nuts.", "Sitting here, high on edibles, getting increasingly anxious as I scroll because no one is commenting about the year, wondering to myself, what year is it really??", "Yeah. My MiL is not actually trumpy. She's sort of embarrassed by him. But other family members are so she shut it down.\n\nAnd it just sucks right now.", "He's based, he's not supposed to be morally good. His neighbors were Neanderthals even beyond their stupid baby.", "That's the point...\n\nThey made him into this. Everyone else acts this way, so fine, fuck it, you broke me. \n\nI'll do it too.", "Yes. It’s hilarious how this movie is one of the best and still up-to-date satire of American society but every one fails to see it… because most here are American and this movie attacks the constructs of American society, in a joyful dark humored no future type of way, not offering any redemption nor intellectual solution. Just blow it up, as Americans would do.", "Yeh seems about it. \n\nI cant work out if this scene has a deeper perspective, ie some kind of comment on the attitudes of people like this. Or if its just how it appears, a very surface-level rant by an angsty, cynical hypocrite. \n\nIm not familiar with the movie so Im not sure on the overall context of the scene to be able to work it out.", "I mean he’s not totally wrong, but it’s also a banal observation. Like, you could write this character with a similar speech about “civilization these days” and plop him down in any setting, from Ancient Athens to the current day. Sure the exact details would be different, but the general jist has always applied everywhere. Really he might as well just say “gosh, don’t people just suck?”", "Freddy Rumsen took a dark turn.", "Well here in the UK we have Naked Attraction where contestants select a partner by looking at their genitals. No face or personality revealed until they have chosen.\n\nI wish I was making that up.", "So just because he is a delusional, insane, hypocrite, does that mean all of his rational criticisms deflate?\n\nSure the belief system may not be internally consistent, and he probably would suffer from severe cognitive dissonance, but the characters do raise some strong cultural dissents.\n\nThese characters are the most extreme hyperbolic examples of outsiders/loners/rebels. From what I remember, the only counter-argument the movie articulates is immediately before the murder-suicide-by-cops stage finalé. Take from that what you will.", "> That rant was the same, though, right? \n\nI don't think so, but you could be right. EDIT: The last part of your post is spot on. \n\nThe speech, which is still find incredible relevant, can be watched here: [I cant take it anymore!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRuS3dxKK9U)\n\nThe tirade from Network, imho, is more focused on the apathy in a society where the truth is distorted and ultimately deluded into something akin to entertainment. \n\nWhen he starts to yell \"I want all of you to go to the window and yell: \"I am mad as hell and I am not going to take this anymore!\"\" he tells the truth, but the sad point of the movie is that no matter how true and righteous his anger is, it still ultimately [ends up as entertainment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5Gf0VKXk5Q) which in turn is drowned out and deluded by all the other entertainment options on the telly.", "you can't really pick up that someone is an unreliable narrator if they only show you a short clip of the world through their eyes.", "Probably a reposted title", "He ends up becoming the largest mass murderer in US history. With a list of victims including a bunch of teenagers who were talking too loud during a movie. What you just described was his flimsy justification for himself.", "Yeh his attitude is that we focus on too much of the wrong things, which is certainly true for many/most people. Just wrapped up/conveyed via a shit attitude.", "I think the movie is a clear dichotomy of where folks define morality and civility differently based on the current trends of the times. Which makes for a marketing perspective for the growing \"told.\" The comments he has stand firm on many points, but in no way validate his actions later on in the movie. Just like the movie Falling Down, everyone has a breaking point. A point to where the world moves on and you are stuck in a tunnel trying to hold tight to the concepts that create the most stability. The validation of seeing a car wreck and staring at it as you pass is partly the human response to danger and survival. Yet, here we are screaming and acting on things which are pushing the envelop. Where do we evolve or improve from here. How many will be stuck once the pillars that once held up their life are swept away. The only agent of change in anyone's lives is always themselves, first and foremost.", "Wow this was boring as shit", "“Back in the good ol days…”", ">He has no idea the depth of character that his coworkers have, nor the content of their conversations outside of work.\n\nIt’s classic projecting. If all you see is shallow conversations around you and nobody ever has a deep conversation with you, then that means nobody has deep, emotional conversations anymore. Can’t possibly be that nobody wants to get personal with an asshole…", "I'm just left here thinking he's been at his desk for 6 minutes and homie still hasn't logged in haha I bet you he left 7 hours and 54 minutes later and logged 8 hours though ;)", "Yea, no. That’s not accurate at all.", "That’s disgusting on multiple levels", "I too am superior to everyone else.", "Good, but posting this out of the context of the movie (for those who haven't watched it) gives the impression that OP supports this message.", "The problem is that 2020 was such a screwed up thing that it feels like it wasn't a year at all, and that is going to mess with our sense of time for the next few years.", "looking at his (and TLB's) IMDB shows me they got plenty of work, just stuff I haven't watched.", "Man, the guy from Fight Club really let himself go.", "Never saw this originally but Frank seems like an unhappy fellow…", "Don't cry because your right, people will never bend to your rants, all they will hear is the noise of your whining. this is how you make people dislike you.", "perfect", "Oh man, it's even worse than that. The film actually came out in 2011.\n\nIsolation during covid and the inability to go to normal family events like thanksgiving and christimas and birthdays has melted the part of my brain that understands time.\n\nBecause those things I usually measure the passage of time with are gone, in my bran it's the 635th day of February, 2020, and February never ended.\n\nEdit: I wrote 2021 instead of 2011 because time is an illusion", "Nope. Covid-induced time related dyscalculia. Like I said in a post just above, my brain thinks its the 635th day of February, 2020, and February never ended.\n\nThough with the number of bots, I really can't blame you for being cynical because 90% of the time a mistake like that would be a repost.", "Freddy Rumsen really changed after he kicked alcoholism", "The worst part is the host tries to make out like it's a serious dating show rather than what it actually is: cheap, exploitative titillation aimed at dirty old men and teenage boys.", "What you're talking about is a \"Lynch Mob\" in a figurative sense. \n\nWhat they're talking about are actual Lynch Mobs....\n\nYa know... Where people get actually, literally lynched.", "This feels really preachy in a really clunky and poorly written way. Maybe this is what passed for subtlety 9 years ago, but this sort of pop-nihilism that is pushed is just as manufactured as anything the guy is criticizing in modern culture. It blames people for being indentured servitudes to their environment, which results in this r/im14andthisisdeep take of \"nothing matters\" which only serves those who benefit from the current systems of oppression. It's pathetic, lazy, and 1 dimensional. It sure is easy to criticize The Masked Singer as the death of culture instead of the actual sociopolitical mechanics that cause people to latch on to distractions and the ideal of comfort.\n\nThis almost has a point at times, but it keeps circling back to its own self-indulgent preaching of how humanity as a whole is lost, and that's just not engaging or interesting. It's a very surface level take that ignores nuance and the larger picture.", "The first time I saw that show I was up late waiting until I had to go catch a plane. I wasn't really paying attention to the TV, just sitting there playing something on the Switch with it on in the background. Then I heard a guy say \"I've always thought if it doesn't fit in your mouth it won't fit in your bum\", looked up, saw an arrangement of flacid dicks and thought I'd stumbled into the Twilight Zone.", "I would say that this doesn't need to he explained, but we love in a world where people think that the Joker is a hero and Rick from Rick and Morty has life figured out.", ">also don't want to be like them\n\nUnfortunately, when I have my hood up and my sunglasses on I could be used as a stand-in for a composite picture of him.", "It's already been both zero years and five years since 2020, I think.", "You actually just got the point of the character, I think. He's not the hero by a very, very long shot. His virtues are exactly as shitty as he thinks the rest of the world is.", "Nice", "I have never seen this movie. Is it any good?", "He's complaining about society and popular culture, not his personal life.", "You're not getting this. \n\nIt's soul sickness. He's lost his cultural faith. The inherent agreement that we all act decent to each other, and are punished if we don't. He sees selfish, arrogant, stupid, people all around him...thriving. Not abiding by the rules. Not being decent. And better off because of it.\n\nHe's not supposed to be an unselfish paragon of virtue. But he's someone who has tried to be good. Does what he's told. Did what he was supposed to. Tries to be respectful, or at least not a douchebag. And he suffers for it. People celebrate these awful human beings...and he's going to die. \n\nThis is last chance to be selfish. What does he want to do? Get rid of these fucking people. So he does. Ironically, becoming celebrated for for being a monster. Just like the people he killed. Because the problem is the society. And you can't fix that by just killing people. \n\nBut you're turned off by the gratuitous violence, right? \n\nYou're supposed to be. \n\nIt's cathartic to see some people meet violent ends as a fantasy, but it's also inherently disconcerting. Graphic. Frightening. Horrible. Wrong. \n\nYou're not supposed to like it. You're not supposed to cheer for him, or the people in his society cheering him on. Slaughtering people is fucked up. Celebrating terrible people perpetuates terrible people. \n\nThat's the message. That's the very, very, heavy handed theme of this movie.", ">Ironically becoming celebrated for being a monster, just like the people he killed\n\nHe wasn’t killing monsters. He was killing teenagers talking too loud at a movie theatre. He rationalized his murders as being good for society, when in reality he was going after people that personally annoyed him. In the end he was orders of magnitude more selfish than any of the people he criticized.", "YES. How are you not getting this? \n\nHE WAS BEING SELFISH. \n\nHe tried to be a good person. It didn't matter. Other people we're being selfish doucheknuckles and facing no repercussions. When he finds out he's dying, HE DECIDES TO BE SELFISH. By getting rid of the other selfish people he hates.\n\nFFS. \n\nDid you even watch the whole movie?", "Calling that MKUltra CIA mind control experiments is silly to me.\n\nI took a psychology course in college and in order to pass the class you were required to be a guinea pig in experiments for the psych majors.\n\nIn one of them they made me hold a pencil in my mouth while performing aggravating tasks. Like holding my hand in ice water. The goal was to test the claim that your facial expression has a measurable effect on your mood. Holding the pencil in my mouth was meant to force me into an angry expression. Whole thing pissed me off.\n\nSounds like Kaczynski went through something similar. There have been a lot of fucked up psych experiments over the years. The stanford prison experiment. The Stanley Milgram experiment. It doesn't have to be the CIA. Could just be dumb students.", "My issue is you equating the selfishness of him and the people he killed. As if it was some matter of fact thing that talking too loud in a movie theater was going to drive someone to murder you.", "You might be too stupid to understand the themes of this movie.", "Thanks", "I mean you’re right, it’s the modern day version of the lynch mob, and it’s still a bad thing. But it doesn’t end in physical torture or death, except in the case of Reddit and that false accusation a while back where the guy committed suicide.\n\nPeople are getting better, but it takes time. Mob mentality absolutely still exists, but it’s less violent than it used to be.", "It doesn't end in death? Twitter lynch mobs have resulted in suicides, usually male and usually after a pile on for false rape accusations. Your reddit case is not isolated. There are so many examples, but the true number is unknown, because suicide isn't always obvious. Fatal single car collision at night is not reported as suicide in many countries.", "Who on earth thought that show would be a good idea? Was there no one that said \"Err No, that is totally tacky and not a little vulgar.\"?", "they have a bit of a point", "The point isn't to agree with this person and it is especially not to watch this one clip and call it a day. In his rant he'll probably say something you agree with and therefore you will identify with him, maybe just a little bit. Through that you become invested in him, the story, the movie. As the movie unfolds you see that he isn't sympathetic at all and are free to feel disgusted by the part of you that originally agreed with him, a little bit. Maybe we should all watch ourselves, watch our thoughts, and identify which ones are anti-social and self-destructive. \n\nIt is a Film, they do these kinds of things.", "> And there are a number of steps we could take to get there... but that's a much longer conversation.\n\nThis is the only part of the conversation that matters.", "Tacky and vulgar are just what a lot of people want.", "You have some really strange assumptions about American culture, but I think your point about ego is spot on.", "Well yeah if they were honest then the dirty old men and teenage boys would feel attacked and go to pornhub like normal people.", "I don’t think most people’s goal is to get stinking rich. If it was, 95% of the US would be failures. And in that case, they would all accept each other as failures, so him not being rich would not exclude him.\n\nI don’t think America is all shallow, or that society’s embrace is hypocritical. Some people are, definitely, but most people are pretty happy making friends and hanging out.\n\nA lot of people are divorced, ugly, old, poor, and they still have friends. Most people don’t get that far professionally and they still have friends.", "It’s definitely better. Not every person who gets attacked on Twitter ends up hurt. Every person who is physically attacked ends up hurt.", "Ok fair enough, I will amend for the sake of pedantry. Sometimes, Twitter lynch mobs end in death. Afaik, pretty much all real life lynch mobs ended in death, at the hands of the accusers.", "Are you seriously comparing your psych 101 class to MK Ultra? \n\nExperiencing some mild discomfort in a safe environment is a far cry from being administered random drugs such as LSD, being sexually and psychologically tortured, isolation, deprivation, etc. The MK Ultra experiments make the Stanford Prison fiasco look positively tame.", "No... you read my comment as if it says the exact opposite of the meaning I was intending to convey.\n\nI was comparing a psych experiment done on me in college to a psych experiment that was done on Ted Kaczynski in college to demonstrate what is currently normal practice in colleges. Then I brought up extreme examples of experiments done on students in stanford and yale to establish the upper limit of what you can expect from university experiments.\n\nThe point being that the experiment Kaczynski went through was well below the upper limit of university psych experiments. And therefore not a fucking MK Ultra CIA mind control experiment.\n\nFrankly I don't know how you came to the opposite conclusion given my first sentence which explicitly rejects the claim.", "I've seen it.... I hate it...", "Who is the main actor, I've seen him in some decent roles.", "Right, but remember, he gets followers. People do scream out their window. The point is, though, that their anger is just as impotent as his, because he's not actually angry about things that matter. His anger is at his irrelevance (think of how easily he's convinced to go corporate stooge as soon as he accidentally begins ranting about things that matter), and buzzword-level vague societal problems become his excuse to exorcise that anger. Because they are vaguely stated, they become a cipher upon which the audience can project their own anxieties. \n\nBeale's (and his audience's) anger is about personal catharsis, anger as its own end to feel better, not solutions. This amorality makes him pliable; consider what happens to him: he becomes the voicebox of the network. He isn't a truth teller, he's a self-interested party just like the network that's using him.", "Hate it to break your feminist bubble my man but dating shows are overwhelmingly watched by females 😉", "Yes, as a whole. Are they watching the naked ones too? (Probably)", "Are these characters from the office? I don’t think I’d take them as “evidence” of any kind of culture.", "Not sure if you meant to sound condescending or not by writing: \"It is a Film, they do these kinds of things\", but my comment was based upon the context of the post and other comments.\n\nI've not seen the movie, so I do not know the whole arc of this character. But you don't have to go far on reddit even to see comments much similar to this rant, which I think in part was OPs point. The intent of my comment then was to mention how alluring the character's monologue sounds, in part because it is offering a simple explanation for modern issues.", "The regular office jobs I’ve had have never lined up with it. Now I’m a programmer and I hear everyone say “Silicon Valley is too close to real life” around here, except the characters are still major exaggerations. The show captures a lot of Silicon Valley culture, but in a caricaturized way. Yes, there are lots of awkward shy people, but no one would hire a PM who shits himself every time he talks. Their job is literally to lead the team. No one would fund or join a CEO who can’t manage a basic presentation or negotiation. Again, literally there to lead.\n\nTLDR, I don’t think it’s reasonable to treat those characters as truth about American culture. It’s also ignoring all workplaces that aren’t in an office, which is a large (if not majority) share of US jobs.", "Thank you for the insight. I get what you are saying. \n\nI also see a lot of similarities between Beale and the sorry sap in Glengarry Glen Ross played by Jack Lemmon. Both to me resembles the \"lost self\", the symbol of defeatism after a lost struggle for righteousness. And maybe contrary to the mass murderer in God Bless America, who also get followers (or one at least - haven't seen the whole movie yet), both Beale and Lemmon seems to end up accepting their defeat, each in their own way but both with the realization that they can't change \"the system\".", "Great take. Thinking of it that way, I like the two archetypes that you've set up-- Beale/Lemmon's character and the mass murderer--working in tandem. Both an expression of, as you say, defeatism, but one is an implosion or resignation, and the other is an explosion or violent outburst. Neither laudable, both understandable." ]	188	videos	God Bless America in 2012 hits even harder eight years later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eppsx71XW7I	/r/videos/comments/qgzlo8/i_am_not_the_lock_picking_lawyer/	[ "That voice thing is trippy.", "Sounds like something LPL would say.", "My fav part was the 2 right hands.", "He had LPL voice parts of this video, it's subtle but you can tell when it changes", "I was thinking to myself, \"Wow, this guy really does sound a lot like LPL\". Then when it switched back I knew.", "I'm so confused", "It’s subtle? Lmao", "Tone wise they are very similar but JRE has a faint drawl, just a slightly slower way of talking.", "As subtle as quietly entering a building by hurling yourself through a glass window, smashing it to pieces and laying on the floor shouting \"Help, I'm bleeding, I just leapt through that window\"", "the first switch is subtle but when they swap back it's pretty obvious", "Redditors love calling obvious things subtle to show everyone how astute they are.", "That explains why he sounded exactly like LPL at times, but not at others.", "Idiots! Michael Stevens has you all duped.", "Wow, only spotted that on a rewatch after reading this.\nI wonder if that's an actual on-screen cameo as well as the voice.", "No shit", "This whole thing really hurt my smooth brain.", "Um. Left hands.", "I can't imagine how anyone would think these two are the same person. They use a similar cadence but so do half the product reviewers on YT. Kinda like how all news anchors talk in a similar fashion.", "Right hands at 3:27, haven't looked for the left hands.", "Should have definitely held onto this one for April Fools", "Some people are tripping now.", "Oh OK. The left hands are at the end.", "It looks like it is! LPL has a mole on his left index finger, and the left hand on the right at the end of the video has the same mole", "The way JRE just casually stabs and scratches brand new stuff makes me so uncomfortable. I get that he's doing it for the review but still.", "No, LPL April fools videos are phenomenal. This is just trippy…unless LPL lets JRE try to get into his wife’s beaver.", "LOL funnily enough, on LPL's channel last month, he did a video talking about [another Visionis product](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbhxWRIZpKo) defeated with the exact same method.", "It's crazy because I started watching as part of research on adapting a house for a newly wheelchair bound relative, so he's usually building elevators or not-a-wheelchairs, but the channel is mostly stabbing things.", "[subtly](https://youtu.be/VlrUKF4095Q)", "How does that face detection work with masks? The screen keeps flashing the wear a mask warning.", "but what does it mean, to be duped? \n\nvsauce music" ]	30	videos	I AM NOT THE LOCK PICKING LAWYER!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT4NYto3abM	/r/videos/comments/qgzp41/tiger_king_2_official_trailer_netflix/	[ "Tiger King 2...The quest for more coke money", "Fuck everyone in this story. The only ones I have any sympathy for are the animals in captivity", "Florida is the gift that keeps giving for Netflix documentaries about insane people", "What a collection of unlikeable humans.", "Cringe" ]	5	videos	Tiger King 2 \| Official Trailer \| Netflix
https://youtu.be/mFXXW3unVI4	/r/videos/comments/qgzsp5/angels_egg_cinematography/	[ "Nice, what is this from?", "Angel's egg that the title of the anime.", "There’s an English sub on YouTube of this..just finished it and wow what a beautiful piece of work this is. The 80’s was a great time in anime man. The animation reminds me a lot of vampire hunter..the one from the 80s of course. Thanks for posting this and bringing it attention op", "I havent seen Angel's Egg since the mid 90's. Back before the internet days we would all pile into a car and drive up to Japantown for the anime club that let us bring our own VCR and dupe everything that played. I was there to watch but often like with Angel's Egg there was no subtitles. They would normally start with Ghost Sweeper Mikami but it was always different after that." ]	4	videos	Angel's Egg \| Cinematography
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPAYuCt7Eco	/r/videos/comments/qh055w/wheel_of_time_trailer/	[ "\"360° Experience\"? It's of a flat screen projection of the trailer. O...K", "pretty shitty 360°. There is absolutely no additional information added with this 2D screen in 360° view.\n\nIs this an official prime video?", "Oh, that's why it looked so pixelated in 1080.", "[Non-360 version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ABgqUh8M98).", "Lets GOOOOOO", "It looks like a shitty young adult novel adaptation. You sound excited... should I be?", "Wheel of time is not young adult in any way shape or form. It’s not as consistently dark as Game of Thrones but it reaches that level many times. \n\nIts my favorite book series of all time and I dislike young adult books.", "There are Easter eggs for book readers on the sides", "360 video is bad, but the trailer looking niceeee", "Half of the main characters are young adults, so some of it might come across as YA, but WoT is far from YA,\n\nI would argue that WoT is as dark as GoT. I reread the books this year in preparation for the show. I think that main difference is GoT was more in your face with its darker themes, whereas with WoT its just more implied. Although It does get darker in later books.", "Yet one shall be born to face the Shadow,\nborn once more as he was born before,\nand shall be born again, time without end.\nThe Dragon shall be Reborn,\nand there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth at his rebirth.\nIn sackcloth and ashes shall he clothe the people,\nand he shall break the world again by his coming,\ntearing apart all ties that bind.\nLike the unfettered dawn shall he blind us, and burn us,\nyet shall the Dragon Reborn confront the Shadow at the Last Battle,\nand his blood shall give us the Light.\nLet tears flow, O ye people of the world.\nWeep for your salvation.", "That was my first thought, but look around while the trailer is playing. Lots of good stuff going on.", "Unless you speak old tongue..", "The 360 trailer goes up to 8k, which you should force unless your device can't handle it. It looks way better that way.", "Here's the Reg [trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ABgqUh8M98&ab_channel=IGN) for people not scrolling reddit in VR.", "The initial book is definitely young adult. But the author did a good job of aging up the series over the 20 years it was written. Later books get pretty dark and graphic at times.", "Do you like girls tugging their braids? If so, then you'll love this", "A lot of the cast in ASOIAF is very young too. People forget because the show aged them up considerably.", "It's not dark. The books are hollow, the characters are dumb and the happy endings are just annoying. How many major characters were killed in those 10000+ pages?", "Is that how we judge how good things are? The significant character body count?", "but what was this \"one of the five you\" bs?", "Will they stay true to the books and have absolutely nothing happen in seasons 3-7?", "The showrunner just said they’re purposefully misdirecting who the Dragon will be. Plus the truth an Aes Sedai speaks isn’t always the truth you think you heard. One of the five IS the dragon…\n\nI’d also assume she just says that to give the powerful channeling ladies a reason why they should too join them.", "haha, yep! she didn't lie!", "Probably the most iconic scene in the entire series takes place in book 6 and the pacing moves at a pretty breakneck speed through the early books… if you’re thinking about the “lull” that’s in books 8-10", "Yes exactly, and sometime those scenes with them were \"YAish\", because they are young adults. Just because those were \"YA\" doesn't mean the show overall was YA, because it definitely was not.", "Not always but in this case definitely. The characters are faced with countless hard challanges throughout the books and the worst thing that happens is losing a fucking hand. It takes away the suspense because the pattern gets too obvious after a few books.", "My body is ready. My heart is hesitant to accept but hopeful", "I guess LOTR is bad cuz Frodo only gets a shoulder injury that doesn't quite heal.", "https://www.gq.com/story/inside-amazons-wheel-of-time", "The Cast is so good. I hope this will be good.", "I'm getting sick of these lazy \"BBBWAAAAAAAHH\" Inception copycat soundtracks.", "The truth an Aes Sedai says is not always the truth you think you heard. What she said isn't untrue even if you don't change anything from the books.", "One of the main characters does die.", "Na, Sanderson saved it. Took the ball, ran it in for the win.", "In the final battle after how many books?", "Wheel.... of time!", "So you submitted the 360 version...", "[Classic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAOdjqyG37A).", "Ugh, the set design and costumes just looks so bland and empty. It's like they threw a lot of money at making them pretty, but just didn't give them any soul.\n\n(For reference: Think of the wear and spotting of the stone surfaces in Rivendell(LotR), whereas here everything looks like it was just power washed).", "The real question to wonder is whether she stated that because >!Egwene and Nyneve have channeling potential!< or because >!they're also Ta'veren in the show now (which really wouldn't be that far fetched given what they accomplish later)!<", "360 degrees aside...This is a much better trailer than the previous one. Morraine is a bad bitch and this is showing it well. And those Trollocs would make Peter Jackson blush. However, the cgi of channeling is worrisome.", "This makes me wonder if they'll change too much of the story and ruin it.", "Except that's the ONLY thing that happens in book 6. Books ~~8 - 10~~ 12 - 14 were great.\n\nedit fixed I forgot when Sanderson took over. 8 - 10 are a snooze fest.", "Today on safe bets: most people won't care about this, most hardcore fans will watch, a large group of the loudest fans will complain that it's too compressed/leaves too much out, it won't pull the near the number of \"clicks\"† that GoT did, but will not inspire anywhere near as much antipathy by not botching the ending.\n\n†Clicks being views on Prime + plus media coverage + trending topics on social media platforms", "That's not very nice, don't know what's wrong with your eye's but the actress is anything but.", "Are we even looking at the same person?", "The fuck?", "I mean...I guess another losing an eye doesn’t count then? Or yet another losing their entire* family? Someone already mentioned one dies so we are up to half the original main cast. Let alone the one losing a hand being insane at the time. I think you missed the bit where plot armor is literally built into the world building of the series. Full on in universe explanation that actually makes perfect sense in universe. \n\nThe books are about balance. One force is trying to disrupt balance so a neutral force counters that by giving the other side a little buff...restoring balance. \n\nAlso there is no mercy for secondary characters, B-teamers, second in commands, etc. There is a huge body count of good guys by the end. \n\nBeing deliberately vague since we aren’t on the Wot sub and I don’t wanna spoil anything more plot related. An explanation would require full text spoilers for a show about to drop. \n\n+1 for the LoTR comment as well; of the fellowship (and correct me if I’m wrong here) isn’t Boromir the only one that dies? I mean I guess Gandalf the grey but he also gets a promotion so call it a draw.", "It's hard to compare Lotr and WoT. The thing about WoT is that one doesn't care about death or tragedy because the characters are so weak. And as I said, you've got a much much longer series with more battles and near-death situations going well, book after book in an \"end of the world\" scenario.", "The first season looks like it's half the first book according to the titles of each episode, so more likely seasons 6-14.", "Well now you can just download a sample library of all the most hacky trailer sound design [and just mindlessly throw them in all over the place without needing even a week of training.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldlhoTZyv0I) So fuck you - the BWARRRM will never end.", "Honestly, I doubt fans will complain they will leave too much out. The best books are Book 1 and the final three books written by Sanderson. The rest of them are still a good story, but absolutely filled with unnecessary filler. A faster pace would be welcome.", "Doesn't my boy Brandon only take over on books 12+?", "I can't tell if this is supposed to be intentionally terrible writing taking the piss out of the series, or actual lines. That's probably a good indication of the level of quality we can expect here.", "This is how I've been every since the teaser. The screenshot of the LotR show was interesting. But after seeing this trailer...I'm getting major Eragon vibes. And I'd rather them not touch LotR if it's going to look like this.", "From the looks of it, the first season is half of book 1, if you look at the titles of the episodes.", "I'm guessing this is something that fans of the books will love but it will be hard for everyone else to get into.", "Yup 12-14 were Sanderson. Those middle 10 books left even less of an impression tan I remembered.", "I mean, the book had that already in that it was \"one of you three\", meaning the boys.\n\nI feel like they did this on purpose to have Nynaeve and Egwene on an equal footing story wise, and not sure why.", "Agreed. I'm just concerned about what else might change, and how drastically. But this is likely the one series of novels I will be a slathering perfectionist fanboy about, so....", "Just from the trailers it look unlikely that they have anything filmed beyond the first book. Probably hoping for a GoT esque zillion seasons.\n\nAnd hey if they don't fuck up, I will watch every one.", "I don't see them as being weak. They all go through pretty heavy in depth arcs throughout the series.", "After watching something like Dune, this just looks so cheap.", "[taco inside a taco](https://youtu.be/3RhxyHMs-w8)", "Every trailer is the same these days. Same music style and pacing. Cut between characters saying urgent/wise-sounding lines. Always has a cut and then a sound like drums or a monster screaming. This one even has the literal \"dark one\" trope going on.", "I'm actually on a reread to prep for the show. On book 10 and I'm barely holding on. I love the last ones so much that I have to keep on, but it's real hard.", "Pretty sure it's already been confirmed that it will cover parts of 1, 2 and 3.\n\nEdit: And there's only 8 seasons planned.", "Love that Aiel scene.", "I don't remember there being so many black characters in WoT. Curious, must have missed that.", "Just sounds like maybe fantasy is not your thing anymore, and that's ok.", "I guess that's one way to get somebody to watch your \"360\" trailer. Whoops, only made it 5 seconds in.", "#show us loial\n\nAlso \"one of the five of you?\" Almost sounds like they're doing away with the whole \"the Dragon/false Dragons are always men\" thing, which is ... weird.", "I don't know if it'll ruin it but I am going in expecting there to be some major changes to certain character and storylines. That said, I am also expecting the basic story beats to remain the same.", "I absolutely loved this series and I am hoping against hope that they don't kill it with wokeness like they have been doing lately. Please please please just tell the story from the books. I know they will have to cut it down otherwise it would take a decade to tell but keep politics and agendas out of it.\n\nPlease...", "I think it's just Aes Sedai word twisting of the truth to get them to come with her\n\nshe says \"one of the 5 of you\" .....which is technically true\n\nWe got to remember that this is a trailer. Its edited in ways to sometimes misdirect you.", "...That comment is just plain wrong. Way over exagerating the lull in the series consistency.", "lol looks like a 2002 winamp skin", "10 is def a lowpoint for me after the end of 9. 11 is slow but satisfying for me then 12 comes and BAM, lightning finish for the last 3.", "Man I think 9 and 10 are probably the worst. Absolutely nothing happens for 2 books and it's just a slog.", "This would be the exact same \"360 Experience\" if i just spun around in my chair while watching a regular trailer.", "> I feel like they did this on purpose to have Nynaeve and Egwene on an equal footing story wise, and not sure why.\n\nProbably because otherwise they'd be seen as lesser characters and there'd be an outcry from someone, somewhere.", "I just finished the last book to pretty pumped about this. Lan looks a lot younger than I would have imagined but excited to see the Trollocks already.", "3 episodes of slowly zooming in on a tapestry so that you have ample time to notice every single detail.", "This was incredibly stupid.", "> for people not scrolling reddit in VR.\n\nYou mean plebs?", "I have no interest in this weird cosplay show that gives vibes of a budget witcher production... with TERRIBLE music and lines that are so generically fantasy that they actively make me sleepy.", "Nah it looks corny as hell imo", "This looks like shit.", "Does it also whip the llama's ass?", "I was just saying this too. Especially after watching the video of Denis breaking down the gom jabbar scene. So much love and attention to detail. He outright says Herbert's words guide everything and all questions are answered by going back to the source material. This trailer does not give me the same feeling of love and attention to detail. I guess we'll see what unfolds...", "Really not super excited for this. The books were good but I am not enthused.", "Bingo.", "I've read the entire book series twice and I cannot say this trailer does it for me. \n\nI'm really annoyed by the casting, some of the costume and VFX design looks kind of cheese and some of the acting looks highly suspect.", "My skirt is ready for smoothing and my braids are ready for tugging. Let's do this.", "In fairness to this trailer, Dune is a completely different animal compared to Wheel of Time. I'm not going to say Dune is better, because that's subjective and different people enjoy different things. I will say that Dune is intentionally philosophical and high minded in ways I just don't think WoT is. I really love the first few WoT books, but by nature it's more derivative and pulpy. It has some great original ideas (the titular Wheel of Time itself being my favorite) but if this trailer feels a bit more... Young Adulty, it's because the series is a bit more Young Adulty, and it's not necessarily a failing of the creators to respect the original material.", "Maybe that’s the hint that all the movies are the same.", "I think it was actually rather artistic. If you panned right there was Saidin, and to the left was Saidar. If you looked behind you they were joining together, and you're standing on the symbol of the Aes Sedai. There were also words and faces showing up in the flowing visualizations of the powers.", "So you don't like the faces and written old tongue that showed up in Saidar and Saidin?", "I think it's more that the trailers are always outsourced to an outside company, who all go with the formula we know because it rates high in their tests or something.", "War of the Worlds did it five years before Inception made it famous.", "This seems to be an issue with a lot of stuff on Prime.\n\nApple TV's been doing some really good scifi lately, but they've got this bad habit of tacking on pointless soap opera romance subplots to everything which really detracts from the narrative. I was really digging their Foundation adaptation until the swerved the whole plot because the MC found love.", "> This trailer does not give me the same feeling of love and attention to detail.\n\nLess like \"Lord of the Rings\" and more like \"Shannara Chronicles.\"", "It has nothing to do with the writing, the lighting and framing are just poor on this.", "you are right. I did not see this easteregg", "Yes.", "I stopped watching For All Mankind because of this. Such a cool show with wayyyyy too many romantic subplots. I just want sciencedrama dammit.", "Reallllly depends on how you judge it all. It's either 11/12/13 or 12/13/14 depending on how you include the prequel.", "Well it is one of the five of them.", "Surprised you didn't like books 2-4, the end of Shadow Rising floored me. But I do agree there's a few books with huge events at the end (6 and 9 come to mind) but lots of boring filler leading up.", "The best books in the series are 2-4. They're the books that are the most action-packed, fast-paced and plot-advancing of the series. If anything, book 1 is definitely inferior to the following 3 books. The lull starts around book 7 depending on who you ask and ends at book 11, which was not written by Sanderson.\n \nThat makes him mostly wrong as far as I can tell." ]	113	videos	Wheel of Time Trailer
https://youtu.be/BRvf6dBwKMg	/r/videos/comments/qh0arg/flashback_dune_youtuber_reacts_to_the_first_dune/	[ "SUBSCRIBE to @Quinns Ideas on YouTube for all things DUNE & A Song of Ice and Fire related. Quinn is qool!", "No I don’t think I will", "He's not just a Dune youtuber, he covers ASOIAF, Foundation, Hyperion... sci-fi and fantasy in general. Dune does appear to be one of his favourites though. He's a man of taste." ]	3	videos	Flashback: Dune Youtuber reacts to the first Dune trailer. His uncontrollable excitement is so infectious
https://youtu.be/U7ppTpzgmh8	/r/videos/comments/qh0b41/nintendo_64_switch_games_vs_the_original_hardware/	[ "Thanks for the comparison. I was hoping the HD capabilities of the switch would make these ports more playable. Looks like it!", "Ok, but what about Superman 64?", "From what people are saying, the sheet graphics are literally the complaint.\n\nAlso, just before I saw this post, I was checking out this interesting comparison on 3 different types of nintendo hardware.\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/qh8rzb/im\\_not\\_sure\\_why\\_everyone\\_is\\_upset\\_nintendo\\_didnt/" ]	3	videos	Nintendo 64 Switch Games Vs. The Original Hardware! - Graphics Comparison (Mario 64, Zelda, & More!)
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qh0dvv/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qh0dvv/deleted_by_user/	[ ">He's ok with us being here?\n\nI'd say if that big fella didn't want you there, you wouldn't be there", "Big G would be giving too fire dance moves for them that the shockwaves from the moves would injure them", "Why is this being downvoted. Such as awesome clip" ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qh18co/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qh18co/deleted_by_user/	[ "Is this basically bocce ball?", "What the.. that is ridiculous.", "Basic difference. Bocci is tossed and the balls are round. Bowls are rolled and basically flat on one side so they do that little “flop”", "Yeah... so basically a cousin to bocce:\n\n[https://seattlebowls.org/what-we-do](https://seattlebowls.org/what-we-do)", ">Bowls are rolled and basically flat on one side so they do that little “flop”\n\nIt's both sides, and it's more to allow you to curve its trajectory.", "Never not watch this when it's reposted", "Pretty sure some people just laughed because of the \"There's six inches between the two balls\".", "Holy repost Batman!", "So it's just Bocci Ball with a different ball?", "check out that crowd. young and energized", "This is some real talent.", "\"Theres about 6 inches between the 2 balls\" \n( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)", "It’s bocce with nice balls.", "But…it’s not Italian…/s", "Didn't know this game existed but my lord what a shot.", "Actually it's \"2 bowls\" and the laugh was about him saying it is just room to fit. Basically they're laughing about his chances. That's why he does that nervous smile, to say... yeah, no pressure.", "[English sports](https://youtu.be/E_6d3JBBo4s)", "Marbles for adults", "Nah, maybe a nephew to Pétanque", "Best family resort in the UK, potters, where they host it", "Grans love a bit of filth.", "Married a Brit and lived in London for some years… this is so well done.", "[lllllllllloike a glove](https://youtu.be/3nOxdKcqC_I)", "Unbelievable! \nLike he had a tiny little guy in there driving it through!\nCongratulations on a fine shot!", "Haha yeah, the only people who play bowls here in Australia are retired and take it extremely seriously or young people who occasionally play because alcohol is allowed, you can do it barefoot and it's fun when it's not too hot out. Our local bowls place even has a couple of flat top grills you can use for free to cook snags and stuff.", "*Bowls.", "The traditional one is played on grass lawns or carpeting indoors, played as a pair with my dad when I was a teen\n\nThat's just an astonishing shot", "No.", "No.", "Fun game for the holidays. If you have family over, put this on the TV and tell them to be quiet while you concentrate. See if they can tell whether its satire or not.\n\nEDIT: I've done this, the answer is no they do not, but they will watch with you for a bit.", "I know absolutely nothing about whatever this sport is, but I can tell you that was an outrageous thing.", "Hey, at least he's housetrained.", "That was outrageous. That was contagious", "This is our concern, dude.", "One of my favourite things about living in Australia. If I - as a 20-something man - were to say to the lads back in Scotland do you want to go play lawn bowls they'd wonder if I'd had a stroke/aged 50 years overnight.\n\nHere it's just a fun day out in the sun with some beers.", "Typical brit reaction. hits the shot of his life, does the same thing that i do when i realize i accidentally cut the line for the bathroom", "I had to check that this wasn't r/theocho but damn that was a great shot", "As a curler, it looks very much like curling on the lawn to me!", "And in typically English fashion he celebrates with an unrestrained outpouring of joy by allowing one corner of his lip to twitch briefly upwards by approximately 1-2mm.", "He’s a regular Cliff Starkey.", "Thank you for the genuine laugh tonight lol", "I was thinking how the fuck is it curving? Is the floor shaped like a bowl?? Then the close up of the ball.. impressive shot.", "That was oddly relaxing.", "Meanwhile, Jomboy's built an entire career out of explaining the rules of Baseball because they're utterly impenetrable even to people who actually watch it.", "Shikaka!", "Me too. I'm not a curler but a couple of friends of mine are top level gold medalists so I've seen a lot more of it than I ever wanted to. \n\n\nI bet I'd fall asleep just as fast (kidding.... maybe)", "3mm would be a penalty.", "I've come across this video no less than 20 times, and every time I watch it from start to finish. Friggin wild.", "It goes back a long time ago, long before you and me thats for sure. Infact the most memorable game was in 1588 when Sir Frances Drake played Lord Howard at Plymouth Hoe while awaiting the arrival of the Spanish Amarda. Some say he lost the game, But i like to think that he won the game and the battle at sea too. Because the great Sir Frances Drake didnt know the meaning of the word defeat.", "Is it like bocce ball but with an oblong ball?", "Yeah, similar idea. The balls are slightly weighted on one side which causes them to curve as they roll.", "The only thing I am qualified to say is \"I completely respect the skill it took to make what I'm sure was an amazing shot. Well done.\"", "I can't imagine playing at the Olympic level; they don't let you play beer-in-hand. \n\n \n(Honestly, that's so dope! I'm jelly.)", " It's enough to turn you off even trying to compete ;)\n\nIt didn't impress everyone though. The whole province stood still to watch them play in the final match; it was declared a last minute holiday. When they got back, they asked my 6 year old daughter what her favourite part was. \n\n\n\"I got the day off school!\". \n\n\nHahahaha.", "Even the unwritten ones ?", "I played when I was in school because choosing a sport option was mandatory and I was a lazy little fucker.", "Some people are just hacking irl. Like the matrix.", "/r/nextfuckinglevel", "I prefer this version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ4V\\_-GY3PM", "Rightly so for unsportsmanlike conduct.", "The bowl (not ball) is weighted on one side precisely so it will curve like that.", "This is becoming the most reposted video on Reddit.", "..gganbu ಥ_ಥ", "Usually played next door to a pub\n\nBecause of course", "Used to play carpet bowls with my grandad as a kid and he'd play crown green bowls at the local bowling green.\n\nGood.lord we're so British", "Bolo beers are the best", "They even have TV ads promoting the sport to younger generations. GOTTA LOVE THE BOWLO", "Dont give away all the secrets", "Holy sh ...\n\nSo, there's that french show named Kaamelott I like a lot (in super short, a show about King Arthur on his quest to find the Holy Grail but he's one of the only smart one at the round table .. it's quiet funny) and there was an episode where they played \"a ball game\" which made no freaking sense to the viewers at all since it had many silly rules and even Perceval wasn't sure on which side he was the whole game ... I just realised that may have been a reference to that video somehow lol.\n\nI sadly can't give you any link because, AFAIK, the episodes are only available for free on youtube for french people (I'm from the french talking part of Belgium and can't watch them either smh) .. and I don't even know if they have english subtitles anyway. Still, thank you for that revelation!", "Bwaa ha ha haaaaa!!", "Didn't the guy actually say, \"That was outgrageous [sic].\"?", "This is amazing. A video under a news banner... and it goes straight to the good bit, rather than jabbering with pre-commentary before showing 5 seconds of the actual event.\n\nThat is what is truly amazing.", "Youthful looking audience.", "My dad used to play bowls when I was a kid, and later in life we'd both get a kick out of watching the televised competitions shown of an afternoon. \nI find it v similar to snooker, similar turn-based strategy & execution. A shot like this is so satisfying to see!", "For some reason that link won't work for me, so I dug out another version for fun.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/YQ4V_-GY3PM\n\nEdit:same URL, it was your backslash to try to negate the underscore formatting.", "Yeah, I'm not so sure. The competition is put on by a retirement financial services company called JUST. You can see it on their shirts. The crow is laughing at the \"just room\" comment.", "It's a Reddit bug", "[Yep](https://youtu.be/SaW5B2SEnXg)", "That's a very good point.\n\nI think it could be both though, some people laughing at that, some at my interpretation. The commentator for instance comments that \"the way Gregg asked him to play that, you'd think he was 3 feet away from it\" which makes me believe he took the joke the way I saw it. Nick's reaction indicated he took the laughter to mean that too, as he pulls the quintessential British reaction to no pressure moments, the lips back, eyebrows raised.\n\nJokes aren't always clear cut to those that hear it them, and they take interpretation.", "Wish that episode happened sooner so I could hate everyone evenly.", "Reminds me of this fragment \"English Sports\" of the Dutch absurd tv series during the 90s, called Jiskefet. \nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E\\_6d3JBBo4s", "What scenes.", "That's the video . Write rm down if its a rule", "Oh cool, cheers.\n\nThat's a bit crap.", "Or its a user error....dont modify a url and expect the url to work", "After this, they're off to watch Rhythmic Canoe Dancing.", "What's a Bock, again?" ]	87	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/G110rU5AV8Q	/r/videos/comments/qh2ba1/peaceful_kitty_sleeping_in_the_sunshine/	[ "So precious", "Don't you just want to rub that fluffy warm tummy.", "Man, I always gotta touch the soft bellies, that shit's the best. Old roommate had two cats, got both of them to be fine with me shoving my face in their bellies and holy shit was that warm and soft as fuck.", "My favorite video today. That's a happy cat." ]	4	videos	Peaceful Kitty Sleeping in the Sunshine
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qh2k7d/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qh2k7d/deleted_by_user/	[ "u/IdiotPissBoy posted a link to a Twitter post with this video on this subreddit, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qggqon/absolutely_incredible_interaction_between_talk/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf). \n\nI thought I'd post a link to the actual video so you could watch it directly in Reddit.", "How do you grow concrete again?", "Wtf", "Grab a bag of [concrete seeds](https://www.westbuildgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/gp-concrete-rainproof.png). It says you just put them in the ground and water.", "they've doubled down on their twitter and shared all sorts of links. People are replying with pictures of them holding handfuls of gravel saying they have concrete seeds. It's great.", "Who the fuck is that heart attack waiting to happen? Is he british tucker carlson or something?", "Lol, guys like, that was such a dumbass statement, I'm going to just let it hang in the air and kill this interviewer.", "Damn didn't even wait a full day to repost", "The best one on Twitter was someone putting a block in a flower pot, and someone replied: \n\n> You've used the wrong type of concrete. That looks like annual concrete, whereas you need a perennial variety. Or take a cutting from an established car park.", "You can’t grow concrete but it does get recycled quite a lot.", "Dude reminds me of Family guy where Peter has the \"What grinds my gears\" segment.", "Its ok they're imaginary points. He didn't get one up on you, hes just sad caring so much for imaginary points. ahem unlike you, guy who has life.", "He has no cabinets, dressers, shelving, framing, hardwood floors or Doors in his house, does not use paper in any fashion And clearly this large ass has never eatin a apple in his entire life out of respect for trees.", "Why would anyone agree to be on this show if the host is just going to try to do a senseless \"gotcha\" ad hominem and then hang up before you can get your message out?\n\nHis gotcha fell flat here, and I doubt its the first time, but the insilate Britain guy didn't actually get to say anything about the cause he represents. I mean, in this case he didn't need to, but still.", "I have never seen him before this and I'm British", "lmao", "Insolent Britain" ]	17	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qh2uky/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qh2uky/deleted_by_user/	[ "Love this", "Thank you. It was really fun to make so many mechanisms. Especially the jumping Toads", "Yeah it looks so much fun 🎢" ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZR8m7p51SU	/r/videos/comments/qh2x7y/tiger_king_2_trailer_2021/	[ "I have a few remaining brain cells left after watching the first season. Might as well fry them altogether and watch this one too!", "Top notch trash right here :)", "I was about to cancel my Netflix, now I’m never going to financially recover from this.", "I never saw the first one. It just…idk. I dont want to see animals being mistreated and seeing dumb people just pisses me off so it didn’t really look like my kind of thing.", " Its over hyped. people were stuck inside with nothing better to do.", "We deserve this, for good or bad.", "The first season was interesting. I wonder how they will continue.", "If you are struggling with an active netflix subscription you should not have one at all.", "Just riding the wave from the first season, it’s not gonna be good", "https://i.imgur.com/axJmn.gifv", "Poor people can do very very dumb things. You never know.", "People with poor senses of humor can often miss jokes or references. Now you know.", "I did not miss the joke. I was just saying.", "Does this one also come with a year and a half of working from home? Because that was my favorite part about the first one.", "Oh, so you saw someone joking and decided to be a party pooper? That's worse than having no sense of humor.", "Man your life must be miserable. Grow up.", "Actually, you sound like the miserable one, talking about what poor people should and shouldn't do when someone else is clearly making a reference to the show. \n\nNow you have advice for me? Write it on a slip of paper and shove it way up inside of your butthole.", "Honestly his comment was way funnier than the original one. It was a really lame joke, so stop defending it so hard.", "Counterpoint, it wasn't funny at all, it wasn't intended as a joke and you can't tell me what to do.", "I have a feeling there’s gonna be a tiger king 3 and possibly 4 as well.", "If you are struggling with getting a slip of paper shoved way up inside of your butthole you shouldn't have a butthole at all.", "I’m interested but seriously, I hope people stop believing Joe when he gaslights them. Carole is a hero for putting up with his bullshit.", "looks like a flop", "maybe you'll wake from a coma and everything since 2016 was a dream.", "it is also very partial. joe was clearly selling probably the tiger pelts on the side but most important of all he had huge part in drug dealing cause he was legally allowed to have gallons of ketamine and hiding meth (or producing it) is very difficoult but not around animals that have ammonia for pee. have you seen those meth faces? the bag of meth maldonano had in the picture imply a huge amount of drugs on property.", "If only....", "Look at Bill Gates over here with a Netflix subscription. A true intellectual" ]	27	videos	TIGER KING 2 Trailer (2021)
https://youtu.be/TrhUop2KOn8	/r/videos/comments/qh39ub/cool_video/	[ "Damn son that is some bad-ass FPV drone flying! What a rush that would be to dive the sides of such an iconic natural landmark like the Matterhorn.", "This video make me calm. The scenery is amazing.", "I think it's better with low tempo" ]	3	videos	Cool video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-ZZMPMSYuw	/r/videos/comments/qh3m72/blood_chocolate_short_documentary/	[ "whoa", "This was interesting. Now I will think twice before I ate chocolate. Thank you.", "Hmmmmm 🤔" ]	3	videos	Blood Chocolate - Short Documentary
https://youtu.be/shV2qoZShV0	/r/videos/comments/qh3seq/nothing_could_possibly_go_wrong_here/	[ "This is how Russian Hulk is made.", "You'd think Ukrainians would know better.", "RIP", "It's not just that they were trying to build an X-ray gun, it's that they accidentally and intentionally stood in the line of fire.", "Their other hobby is to sneak into Chernobyl.", "yeah they are used to that amount of exposure.\n\ntaking pictures of the elephants foot", "Can you link any pictures or videos of them doing that?", "Its a response to the meta of the comment.\n\nMeaning its a joke to go with the joke.\n\nI have no idea if they go to Chernobyl." ]	9	videos	nothing could possibly go wrong here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzUuPguQ0pA	/r/videos/comments/qh414m/help_save_the_planet_how_to_prepare_and_eat_every/	[ "This video shouldn't be exist", "Nice try China", "You WILL eat the bugs and you WILL own nothing.", "Anyone who can eat a hornworm is not a normal human.", "What?" ]	5	videos	Help save the planet - how to prepare and eat every bug
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qh4dke/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qh4dke/deleted_by_user/	[ "This is interesting", "Yes!", "They show how they pour slurry into the mold, then after some time pour out the liquid and they're left with a hollow shell of clay. I was curious about that magic, so I found this video that goes into a bit more detail:\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibXa2oIdNFk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibXa2oIdNFk)\n\nThe \"slip\", the liquid clay, is poured into the plaster mold, and as the water in the slip is absorbed into the mold it leaves behind a layer of clay along the outside. The longer you wait, the more water is absorbed and the thicker the shell will be.\n\nOnce you've calculated how long you need to wait for your desired thickness, you pour out the remaining slip and now you can pop out the clay from the mold, paint, and fire.", "Jesus over stylized bullshit camera work Batman. Learn a lesson or two about motion sickness! The shit they do like this in ads is annoying but at least it only lasts for a few seconds. You can’t just do Dutch angles and excessive zooms and pans for minutes and expect people to not get nauseated.", "Yeah it really ruined it for me. At least with obnoxious music (which, okay that's pretty subjective) like this video uses I can mute it. But the crazy editing just detracts from what could be an otherwise cool video." ]	6	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/NXEl-Pqqo60	/r/videos/comments/qh4xj0/restoring_a_rare_american_marine_lighter_found/	[ "Great work man", "That was amazing.", "Absolutely fabulous work!!!", "It wasn't so long ago that everything was a so well-made. Now, there is so much crap. Disposable crap. I buy something like a dish rack made of stainless steel, within 3 months the \"steel\" wears off and it rusts. I got a garlic press, the non-stick (plastic) wore off just from cleaning it. Who knows what kind of metal it is. Same with my cookware. Who knows how much of this nonstick plastic or mystery metal from China we're ingesting?", "I think I read somewhere that 3 or 4% of the sand there is actually shrapnel. Fragments from all the bombs and bullets during the invasion.", "Everything was well made, and everything was expensive. This lighter you see is something that would probably be given as a gift for a birthday or christmas or some other celebration, not a random thing you would pick up at the gas station on a whim.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nNow, you can buy poorly made things for cheap, or you can get the well made things that are still expensive. The choice is yours, which is not a choice your great grandparents probably had.", "The good ole days when steel was steel and a buck was a buck", "How do I find it? Do I have to pay top dollar for every single thing? Even then, paying in the top 10% price range, I'm finding that things don't last.\n\nFind me a well-designed and really well made dish-rack with drain mat. It has to be the kind where the drain goes into the sink on the short end, to work in my kitchen. It can't be tiny, I am putting big pots in it that don't fit in the dishwasher. The drain mat must have enough slant, the the water actually runs off it, and all the water that drips from dishes on the rack are collected by the mat. With good care it should last a long time.\n\nPersonally I don't think that it should cost more than $100., but if you could find it for $150, I'd be happy.\n\nI believe that if a company makes products that don't last, they should pay higher taxes until we solve the problem of planned obsolescence.", "go on etsy or something simillar, people still handcraft really nice things.\n\nyou can also get things custom built but that would probably be even more expensive, you can contact all sorts of different companies to do this for you, but it wont be $100.", "Wow - great work!", "Yea I'd have to call fairytale on that.", "The non-stick stuff is [teflon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene).", "[Polytetrafluoroethylene](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene) \n \n >Polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) is a synthetic fluoropolymer of tetrafluoroethylene that has numerous applications. The commonly known brand name of PTFE-based compositions is Teflon by Chemours, a spin-off from DuPont, which originally discovered the compound in 1938. Polytetrafluoroethylene is a fluorocarbon solid (at room temperature), as it is a high-molecular-weight polymer consisting wholly of carbon and fluorine. PTFE is hydrophobic: neither water nor water-containing substances wet PTFE, as fluorocarbons demonstrate mitigated London dispersion forces due to the high electronegativity of fluorine.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "It's true, https://web.archive.org/web/20190307224903/http://www.sepm.org/CM_Files/SedimentaryRecord/SedRecord%209-3.pdf.", "Beautiful restoration but doesn't it destroy some of the historicity of this to shine it up like that?", "It's a good point...unfortunately just because something is expensive doesn't mean it is well made.\n\nMay I suggest this simplehuman dish rack for $90? I have one and it is fairly large, and I've confirmed that the drain swivels to drain out of both the long and short sides of it. I bought it after being very impressed with the design of another one of their products I was gifted(a touchless soap dispenser), and I was so happy with their overall design skill that they're my go-to for most kitchen/bathroom products\n\nhttps://www.simplehuman.com/products/steel-frame-dishrack-standard", "why did everything back then had this military aesthetic?", "Cool, thx for the proof, sorry for doubting.", "There are a lot of different kinds. Supposedly better kinds. Teflon isn't recommended, because it outgasses toxins, which can kill pet birds.", "I have an iron from my grandparents that’s the best/most resilient iron I have ever used. It dispenses steam like a teenager with a vape pen, could probably press the dent out of a car, and it’s already outlasted some family members. That iron could be our legacy.", "Hey I have that soap dispenser, it's great.\n\nWell thank you! That dishrack won't work for me, because it has to have the drain on the short side because I have small counters from the 1950s. But that is okay. I have decided to renew my search for a good dishrack. \n\nAlso, I would prefer the drain to be like Niagara falls, instead of a little spout in the middle, because the dish is dripping as I transfer it from sink to rack, and unless the drips fall right over that spout it will pool next to the sink. If you have the undermount* sink, it may not matter as much. I'm pretty sure that most people, still have the older style, drop-in sinks, which keeps the water from running off the counter into the sink.\n\nI think I was meant to be a designer. I could design a great dishrack. I might end up having one made.\n\nEdit: Not underground, undermount, darn autocorrect.", "Are you asking why a lighter dropped by a member of a the largest amphibious invasion force ever in the most destructive conflict in history has a 'military aesthetic?' \n\nI'm more curious why it has the Eagle, Globe, and Anchor symbol given that I don't know of any US marines involved in the invasion. Could have been a gift to a Coastie boatswain or Navy rating or Army infantryman, I suppose.", "The drain actually swivels to short side as well as the long side, and also extends/retracts a bit. I think it would work!", "It seems like they only took one sample from the whole beach: \"Our sample\" .\n\n I could not find info on it but im guessing the sample was pretty shallow as well. \n\nSo the beach isn't 3-4% shrapnel. The sample had 3-4% shrapnel at a very specific spot at a very specific depth. \n\nStill cool though but It's not the whole beach.", "It was one single sample from what I could find and that makes sense because the analysis of such samples are time consuming. \n\nAlso I'm guessing that the depth was relatively shallow.", "I wonder what a Marine Corps lighter was doing in Normandy when the Marines fought in the Pacific theater. \n\nAlso if you guys like this type of material I highly recommend My Mechanics on Youtube. He's a Swiss guy and does similar restoration work but I think his videos are much better produced and the items he restores are super cool.", "Aw, yes, you did say that, and I missed it the first time..\n\nAs kind as you are to try to help, Mr. Zoinks, I think you are overly optimistic. I believe the designers have over complicated it. I don't like that spout. Most of them have a spout similar to that now, or a small channel that is supposed to catch the drips from the rack. But the drips don't just come from the rack. Most of the worst drips happen as the just-rinsed dish is being transfered from sink to rack. \n\nI might be wrong, if so, I am sorry to discount your suggestion. \n\nBut, I have a vision. My quest continues.", "Good question, my guess is that it was just a lighter that made it's way into the hands of an army man. It also looks older than I would have expected for WW2. It actually looks like a trench lighter from WW1.", "I have very serious doubts about the provenance of this lighter. Copper is one of the least salt resistant metals out there. In a aerated, salty solution, like a beach on the sea, it loses something like 10% of its weight per 100 days.", "The real question here is what made the OP state this was found at Normandy? Nothing in the video ever stated as such. I love the video, and saw it months ago on the YouTube. Methinks OP here is Karma mining.", "According the the USMC University website, US Marines did not take part in the actual landing on the beaches. However, they did serve aboard ships as detachments, sometimes as gunner crews and sometimes as snipers that would perch in the superstructures of naval vessels to detonate floating mines by rifle fire (https://www.usmcu.edu/Research/Marine-Corps-History-Division/Brief-Histories/Marines-in-World-War-II/Marines-in-the-Atlantic-Europe-and-Africa/). \n\nOften times service members would exchange memorabilia amongst themselves when the respective parties knew they would not be able to get said memorabilia from their own branch. My theory would be that one of the detachments or snipers traded for something with a soldier that would land on the beaches.\n\nEdit: fixed confusing sentence", "Planned obsolescence, great way to keep those sales up and profits flowing!", "There was a detachment of a couple of hundred Marines involved in D-Day. \n\n\nThere's a great answer to \"Why didn't the Marines lead the D-Day assault?\" here: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1g1s56/comment/cafyweu/?utm\\_source=share&utm\\_medium=web2x&context=3", "Notice how clean the inner workings of it are too. You'd think that spending ~75 years on a beach would cause a bit more corrosion than that. The fact that he could unscrew it at all raised my eyebrows.\n\nI'm not saying it's definitely fake, but a lot of these restoration channels are notorious for intentionally rusting up old tools so they can \"restore\" them.", "Read the video description...", "R/buyitforlife", "Whatever the truth is, you were very polite in your exchange", "It probably wasnt on the beach.. Normandy is a large area, and the allies set up camp inland from the beaches.. it was more likely found in the farmland just past the beach", "Ahh.. my mistake.", "Well I'll be damned. I would have said there was no way any Marines were involved in D-Day. Today I fucking learned. Thanks for posting.", "Thanks for this. Up until reading these threads I was positive there were no Marines involved in the D-Day assault Now I know better. TIL.", "Yes, marine as in nautical. Nevermind the US Marine Corps Eagle, Globe, and Anchor emblem on the lighter. That's just a minor coincidence.", "It feels like the kind of lighter some* veteran visiting Normandy in the last 75 years left, intentionally or not.", "Design one and have it fabricated. It will satisfy all of your needs and you will pay top dollar for it!", "Here's another interesting D-day fact you may not know: Many of the Higgins boat drivers at D-day and other various amphibious landings of the war were US Coast Guard members. A lot of the boats were purchased by the Coast Guard before the war because they are useful in swampy coastal areas like areas of the US Southern coast. When the boats went off to war the Coast Guard was still operating them.\n\nThe only US Coast Guard member to ever be awarded the Medal of Honor is Signalman First Class Douglas A. Munro. He was awarded the medal for extraordinary valor after a secondary landing at Tulagi. He was in charge of landing a group of Higgins boats that held a Marine force that was supposed to move inland and attack the Japanese from the rear but instead the Marines encountered a large enemy force only a few hundred yards from the beach and were quickly overwhelmed. The Marines ran back to the beach and had to swim out to the Higgins boats while Japanese forces started to fire on them and the boats. Munro placed his boat parallel between the other boats and the swimming Marines to provide cover fire from the boat's mounted machine gun and to draw the enemy's fire. One boat filled with Marines became stuck on a reef while fleeing and Munro maneuvered his boat over so they could attach ropes and pull the stuck boat free all while under fire. After a few minutes the boat was successfully freed. Unfortunately, as with most Medal of Honor recipients, this tale ends with his death as either while trying to free the other boat or shortly after freeing it a bullet struck Munro in the base of his skull. His reported last words were \"Did they get off?\".", "Eh. I think this is one of those items that people would more appreciate having as a still functional item. I wouldn't display this unless it was restored to working order. \n\nIf it was a bronze age blade... maybe. Even those can be found for cheap.", "Some might even call it… awesome.", "Most things were being mass produced by fewer places. A simpler aesthetic was the result of standardized products using fewer parts. So much material was going to the war effort that flashy items weren't really available and luxury items were, in a way, viewed as garish in a time of rationing. I'm guessing this lighter would have probably been given as an honor or intended for use by several people.", "Looks like brass no?", "All of these restoration channels are the same, now. This one is particularly egregious. The whole shot where he makes a production of extending the flashlight and shining it inside the lighter... It's become a trope.\n\nIt's awesome to see something so beaten, battered, and corroded brought back to life. But please, find a way to present it that hasn't been done by a hundred repeating channels.", "I had a lot of respect for him but after months of watching him I realized, every tool he uses looks like he never has. His screwdrivers, chisels everything is very well maintained; I’ve got more respect for him now.", "I have a 2 tier rack with a draining pan at the bottom. I cut a rubber lined microfiber mat to fit into the draining pan and absorb most of the water. To catch the transfer drips, I bought a heavy duty rubber under-the-sink mat (with ridges so that it wouldn't slide around) and cut it so that there's an offshoot? that fits perfectly along the entire edge of the sink and curls down into it slightly at the end. \n\n\n It's a few inches bigger than the rack along the other edges. I curled those up slightly and sealed the corners. I even put a couple of grommets on the edge that goes down into the sink, so I could hang it between the shelf and the wall in my pantry to keep it out of the way.", "Those are some cool fuckin' facts my dude, thank you for that.", "https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1g1s56/why_didnt_the_marines_lead_the_dday_assault/cafyweu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3", "It’s brass", "It’s brass", "i didn't know that this is what i was looking for tonight", "Part of your problem is the target for the goods you are seeking. Most people don't use a dish rack these days, they just use the dishwasher and have since the 60s?. Have a big pot that doesn't fit? Hand wash + hand towel dry. No need for a dish rack. \n\nThere isn't really a large amount of profit to be had making a well made dish rack that will last as the target audience of your dish rack is more likely people who don't have dishwashers and want a cheap dish rack.", "Yep completely agree, stopped watching after that.", "That lighter is nearly brand new and sat in a salt/vinegar bath for a few months so this guy could make a video. Completely fake. It would have been nothing but dust in 10 years. This kind of corrosion is ridiculously easy to simulate, leave anything brass in vinegar for a week and this happens. I do it all the time on purpose.", "It's not a rare American Marine lighter, it's an EXTREMELY rare American Marine lighter.", "Holy balls the editing was ridiculous. Dude you don't need to show your mouth in a kissy face ready to blow off the solder dust for two seconds. Just fucking blow it off. It's not a production, your content is good enough.", "This is no longer a question of being well made and more about it meeting your exact use case.", "Is it legal to collect artifacts from the d-day beaches?", "Kinda like how I would put my wrestling action figures in water and freeze them when I was 8, I could be a metal expert too if I really wanted to!", "That’s incredible.", "Turn out it rusts very easily. It falls apart. Apparently last year's model was better. This is not my first time to this rodeo. Maybe Zoink and other commenters are not the chief cooks and bottle washers at their place of residence.\n\n[Simple Human Stainless Steel Frame Dish Rack and Drainer](https://smile.amazon.com/product-reviews/B08DG6VFWS/ref=acr_dp_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&reviewerType=all_reviews#reviews-filter-bar)", "Riveting.", "the \"do you know what this is?\" seemed like such a fake attempt at getting engagement in the comments section. Also, when unscrewing the bottom of the lighter there's barely any torque applied - it looked like an excuse to use a torch and a hammer to unseat a screw for some added flair.\n\nDon't get me wrong, restoration is restoration, but it just seems like this particular video/channel hams it up for no reason other than to drive views and revenue.", "These videos are great for insomnia, they should make full ten hour videos or live feeds. It’s like I had my father around doing stuff", "Plenty of these channels are just blatantly fake. They take new stuff and intentionally make it look rusted out and old just so they can \"restore\" it for views. This smacks of that.", "Yeah the whole ASMR thing is painful at this point lol", "r/nothingeverhappens", "Amazing !!!", "From the paper -\n\n> Because of the\npotential plasering of shrapnel and heavy\nminerals by waves and currents on the day we\ncollected our sample, *we do not know how\nrepresentative it is of the beach sand as a whole\n\nThere's a shitload of metal fragments left in the sand, but this paper isn't confirmation that the whole of the beach consists of 3-4% shrapnel.", "BS. This is fake.", "u/repostsleuthbot", "Some people like that, this isn't a \"how to\" tutorial video, after all, they can be a bit artsy if they want to.", "My Dad was at Pearl Harbor. You did beautiful work on this and it brought tears to my eyes. Thank you.", "Yeah, this is the worst one I've seen so far. But almost 5M subscribers...", "I've thought of that, too, and it's true. But in general, things were much better made. I have clothes that I've had for 20, 30, 40 years. The material was so much better made. Even socks and slips and t-shirts and sheets that felt good and just lasted. Relatively inexpensive things.\n\nI take good care of things for sure. But now I take better care than ever, I have front loading washing machines that are gentler on clothes, they just pill up, rip easily. The thread quality isn't good.", "It's not a real relic.", "There are many things that cannot go in dishwashers, quality things like knives. plastics, bins for salad ingredients, Certain kinds of glassware. Cooking is a very popular hobby/ activity, cooking from scratch, gourmet meals it generates lots of dishes.\n\nPlus, it's not uncommon to use dish racks, Amazon offers more than 3000 dish racks. Ever wonder why so many?\n\nhttps://www.today.com/food/21-things-you-should-never-put-dishwasher-t108971\n\nhttps://www.wspa.com/news/most-have-dishwashers-but-few-actually-use-them-survey-shows/", "This sound very good! I would love to see what you've rigged up. How do you make the edges curl up? And how do you seal them? \n\nThank you for posting!", "I’m not saying it’s fake, but a lot of restoration channels artificially rust objects so they could “restore” it. Notice how all these videos, everything works perfectly fine after just a bit of cleaning and how a lot of the restorations magically have the same rust color patterns. \n\nWatch and timepiece restoration videos are also notorious for faking their videos, because a lot of them just remove a bit of dirt and it’s magically like brand new again.", "Happy to help. \nI was exactly the same before i read the post i linked.", "Buy antique working lighter film working as the finishing shots. Then leaving in salt water to look rusted it’s taken apart and polished.", "The whole video creeped me out. Especially the fake birds.", "Yeah, most of these \"restoration videos\" most certainly altered the object they restoring to look worse then it should have.", "Fantastic restoration and exceptionally fun to follow.", "Fake and gay", "I was thinking the same thing, and this style of lighter hasn't been used in 100 years, when he took a screwdriver to the bottom of it I knew it was bullshit because as soon as you would have put any force on it it would have turned to dust.", "If only they could add a bit more pseudo drama with more nonsensical posturing", "OK but i can't climax unless i see the lips", "Very good", "Also it's illegal to dig and metal detect on the landing beaches.", "They all try to copy my mechanics.", "My mechanics is the og, this is a poor copy", "Can't stand this really contrived filming style.", "Hmm would you say this is fake? Seems pretty heavily rusted and water damaged. Also the dust from the spring, wouldnt be hard to fake, but also seems like a weird detail to fake considering the speing very well could have survived.\n\nPeople im a laymen asking a question and voicing my considerations. I fully beleive its fake and accept your reasoning.", "Damn. I was really hoping he survived. The children of all the men he saved are unknowingly thankful for hsi sacrifice.", "Sad about the commentary. I really like it when youtubers say things like, \"AYYYY BOYS! Today we found this... Wait don't for forget to click like and subscribe! AYYYY we found this lighter off if a beach where like some famous war happened or something. Oh don't forget to click like and subscribe! And if you want to see my videos sooner click the bell icon! Alright let's restore this lighter.\n\nAll of this followed by 2 unskippable ads.\n\nI love it when they do that.", "I hate ASMR and want familiar eith these videos being faked. So i was actually pleased by the pseudo asmr aspect with the focus on resto. I wish it had been authentic obviously. But didnt hate the video as a naive viewer.", "Video too long", "Indeed. I can appreciate what this person is trying to do. Nothing wrong with having the aame passion as somebody else.\n\nI just wouldn't watch this person. I also like The Lockpicking Lawyer a lot too and nobody can replace him.", "I agree and disagree. Depends on the item. Common place items that really dont have a market for super high end versions dont get made because the money in it isnt there. Most people will tolerate lower quality products and accept having to replace it. I am the ultimate research it and find the best one. But its grossly inconvenient to do this all the time and most people prefer convenience and low cost. Consumers are part of the problem cheap stuff is cheap quality. If people buy it it gets made. When something causes under $20 people often dont even return broken items. Is the 20 mins to 1 hour worth the money or is the hour more worth while spent relaxing, soensing time with family, working, hobbies etc. Products were made better back then because they had to be. Technologies didnt exist to allow them to make em differently. As the technology changed so did the manufacturers. Also many products today are solutions to problems that didnt have solutions back in the day. There was a lot less shit made the quantity and diversity of products increases our perception of low grade products cus their are literally more products.", "There's a noticeable lack of patina and pitting on the main cylinder... I'm pretty skeptical of this video.\n\nEspecially that part in the beginning where he removes the USMC insignia and puts a big old \"DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS?\" for comments.", "Youre right. I wanted to believe but even a cursory 2nd review brings up a ton of issues with its legitimacy.", "> Hmm would you say this is fake?\n\nI would. Almost no pitting in the metal and the screw was fully intact. Small delicate bits were all \"rescued\".\n\nFound on a beach eh? A saltwater beach? That old? \n\nYep, not buying it.", "Asking a question like that is an easy way to get engagement, which is important for youtube videos.\n\nIf everyone knows the answer and even 5% of the people respond in the comments, that's good for the video(s) views, being suggested, etc.", "Not too many Marines on Utah beach, wonder how that got there", "That Eagle Globe and Anchor is a newer design. The WWI one looked different than that. \n\n\nI'm not an expert, just an old Jarhead.", "It's also a hallmark of videos posted solely for clout and views, which combined with the other things I mentioned puts this video squarely in the \"setup\" category of restoration videos.", "So we've evolved from clickbait to commentbait.", "Because Amazon has tons of cheap items?\n\nAll of those things are hand wash items. I just hand dry them and move on. No need for a dish rack to take up space.", "Do you know if the stuff on \"my mechanics\" Youtube channel is real? I rather enjoy his videos and thought there was more authenticity compared to these bright green nonsense restoration channels.", "Fake restoration aside, the editing on this video is really annoying. He's trying way too hard. The rotating camera, dropping the parts just to get a shot of it, setting up powder to be able to blow it away...", "First bolt was \"stuck\" yet moved when he tried with a way to small flathead...", "It's all out there, but exclusive to the ultra rich. \n\nI've always rolled my eyes at \"top brands\" like Gucci, or whatever their equivalent is in the consumer market. \n\nThey exist to charge you for wanting the best, not to provide you the best.\n\nAnything quality these days is extremely custom and you can't just walk into a store to get it.", "That was my exact thought when I read that comment. I will be kinda bummed if I find out My Mechanics videos are faked like that.", "Whilst no way to truly verify other than my eye and experience in working on old rust belt crap, I feel that most of what I’ve seen mymechanics do is legit. For one, most everything he does needs new parts made from scratch not just cleaned and/or replaced from off the shelf stuff. And the rust on his work is true deep pitting not just a surface rust or statue of liberty green that as soon as cleaner and a toothbrush hits it you see clean metal smooth underneath.", "American 'Merchant' Marines possibly, but Marines did not participate directly in the landing that day.", "Not even a good restoration, the final shot shows deep horizonal scratches where he went too hard with the sanding/polishing.", ">My Mechanics\n\nI make a new one", "There's almost no way that a little bit of wd40, weak application of a torch, and pretending to simulate an impact hammer with your wrist, would actually free a bilt that's been corroding for almost 80 years. You wouldn't even be able to use a flathead screwdriver.", "Unfortunately that just isn't true. The current manufacturing tactic for high quality items is to make something high quality and expensive for exactly the amount of time it takes to build brand recognition. Then phase 2 is to tank quality as hard as possible while keeping the price high and riding off of the brand name. It's like clockwork. I used to regularly buy high end things because I hate throwing items out after a few months, and now it's just impossible to find anything worth buying. For the last 5 years every single time I've tried to replace an object with the same brand the new version is significantly shittier. Hell, my female friends tell me that even the ultra luxury brands like Louis Vuitton are dropping quality and that some knockoffs are made better than the originals.\n\nI know pining for the good ol days is largely mocked, but I honestly see no indication whatsoever that the manufacturing quality of most items isn't in absolute freefall right now.", "Nobody said Marines were on the beach.\n\nPeople in this sub seem to not realize that people in the military traded memerobelia between each other as they could only get items from their own outfit. \n\nJust because it's a Marine lighter, does not mean it was owned by a Marine.", "Better have a really fucking dumb slow shot of me extending my flashlight...\n\nThis video annoyed me far more than it should have.", "Is this you in the video?\n\nIf so, why'd you have to fake this? It really wasn't found on the Utah Beach, you just fake aged it.", "This whole video is egregiously pompous.", "It's not me, I wish I was a YouTuber with 5 million subscribers and 100million views on my videos.\n\nAnd sure, r/nothingeverhappens", "TIL as well. Had no idea that Marines were there. I was almost 100% certain they didn't land on the beaches. Had an inkling they probably served on the larger vessels, as is the custom taken from the days of sail when one deployed marines to defend against boarding actions, but wasn't certain.", "Nice", "Technically their description says it was found \"near the coast of the Utah beach in Normandy\". Not necessarily on the beach itself.", "Awesome", "Yeah, the description says \"it was found near the coast of the Utah beach in Normandy\". Near the coast of the beach doesn't mean on the beach.\n\nI don't know enough about restoration and shit to say if this is real or not, but the argument that it should be more corroded if it was on a beach is faulty if it wasn't on a beach.", "Also people on here arguing that no Marines stormed the beaches of D-Day. \n\nJust because it's a marine lighter, doesn't mean it was owned by a Marine. \n\nMany different military organizations traded their memerobelia with each other as memento's.", "> I wish I was a YouTuber with 5 million subscribers and 100million views on my videos.\n\nWell know you know the secret. Just fake it!", "Also, as somebody else pointed out, the Marines didn't even land in Normandy, sooo", "didnt cross my mind it was probably the army who gave it to whoever lost it, i was thinking the person had it made for theirselves", "They always seem to do that. I watched a guy hit brass with 36 grit sandpaper, gouging it deeply, then later he tried to polish out those deep gouges. Called him out for it on youtube (I've done antique restoration myself) and he claimed the scratches were there originally, when they clearly aren't at the beginning of the video.", "This lighter looks too large for someone to carry in their pocket. It looks like something that belongs on a desk. I don't believe a Marine carried in this in his pocket and accidentally dropped it during the Normandy invasion", "It was found on Normandy. Not necessarily part of the invasion.\n\nI'm amazed at the people on here who only think the allies ran through Normandy in 1 day. \n\nThey literally setup a base in Normandy and we're there for over a year, as a static forward base.", "haha man I love how there was no pretentious dialogue in the video so you added it to your title.", "....which is made from copper....", "My house is having some work done, so I'm not at home and can't send a pic right now. Sorry. \n\n\nThink of it almost as a tray that the rack sits on, and one of the shorter ends has an extended edge that goes into the sink. I curled the edges by very slightly scoring the outside of the 3 \"non sink\" edges, then folded it in and laid heavy books on top. A day later, I snipped a square off the corner (the same width as the edges), so they fit together perfectly when you put them up straight. I sealed the corners of the inside and all the edges of the outside with a rubber repair kit patch (I had one for a bike lying around). Then I put a little rubber sealing (Flex Seal) along all of the patch edging. \n\n\nThen I also went around the top edges on those 3 sides with the sealing too (to make it more sturdy and less likely to sag. Then I let it cure for a week (I'm sure it would have been okay after a few days, but I'm weird like that) \n\n\nShe's not the prettiest, but she's sturdy! \n\n\nIf you can find a plastic tray that's big enough, you could also take one of the short edges off, and attach a piece of the rubber mat to extend it. You'd just have to to use the sealing to waterproof it.", " Beautiful work.", "There's an entire genre of restoration videos on Youtube, and most of them are even more blatant than this.\n\nEven those clickfarms that produce dumb videos 24/7 got on this bandwagon and are producing videos where someone randomly \"finds\" items like these on the side of the street and then brings them home for restoration.", "Dude is directly ripping off Odd Tinkering style of video making. Also, odd Tinkerings stuff isn't faked like this guy.", "\"Party of science.\" \n\nFucking beaches 4% out of shrapnel. Only on reddit. XD", "D-Day was Army. Marines were busy fighting the Japanese. I would call BS on anything Marine related found at Normandy.", "It's a great example of what \"The Party of Science\" is willing to believe based on seeing a link on reddit. \n \nno need to even read anything about anything, somebody already posted a link so it must be true.", "I mean... stuff happens, but an ornamental lighter doesn't survive in a salt-water environment for 77 years. The channel clearly makes things up for views.", "It wasn't in a salt water environment.", "It was a marine lighter. Not a marine that was found on Normandy.", "Agreeing with the My Mechanics recommendation. The AR guy likes to add in cringy ASMR stuff that just doesn’t fit. He still does some cool stuff, and his laser is awesome, but nothing will beat true craftsmanship when you need to “make a new one”.", "Yeah the ASMR was cringe and there were too many unnecessary comments. Show don't tell.", "Oh my mistake - a salt-water-adjacent environment. It still wouldn't have survived 3/4 of a century. \n\nLook bud, if you want to believe this video is real, that's great. People like seeing things cleaned/fixed, myself included. But this channel is on par with ghost hunting shows in terms of fantasy.", ">Oh my mistake - a salt-water-adjacent environment. It still wouldn't have survived 3/4 of a century. \n\nBro, do you know how big Normandy is? \n\nIt's an area of Europe that is 30k SQ km big. Its not just a beach, nor is it just a strip of land adjacent to the beach. \n\n\n>Look bud, if you want to believe this video is real, that's great. People like seeing things cleaned/fixed, myself included. But this channel is on par with ghost hunting shows in terms of fantasy.\n\n I'm not saying it's real or fake but dumbasses like you keep saying the same thing in this thread:\n\n1) a lighter would have corroded more near salt water \n\n^ this is dumb. Nobody claimed it was on the beach, nor even anywhere near the beach. \n\nAs I noted above, Normandy is a 30k square kilometer area that goes well into mainland France. Far from the beach. \n\nThe allies set up a base of operations in Normandy well into mainland France. This lighter isn't a pocket lighter, it's clearly for a desk. \n\nIf it is real, most likely it was dropped at the static forward operating base, far from the beach.. most likely in a field, with mud - and no salt..\n\n2) no Marines landed on D-Day.\n\n^ this is dumb. Nobody claimed it was dropped by a Marine. It's a Marine lighter. \n\nIn WW2 the different branches all had memrobelia that they could purchase, if you were a Marine - you could only purchase Marine stuff, so you'd trade with a rifleman who had different stuff and vice versa.", "Yeah its not good of course but wouldn't you prefer that compared to getting the information from social media like Facebook instead of a published PDF? I mean now there was a link that made it possible for others to verify if it was true or not. That is what science is about. That is also why its important to discuss it in the open so that everything is verifiable.", "> ^ this is dumb. Nobody claimed it was on the beach, nor even anywhere near the beach.\n\nCongrats, you didn't even read the description of the video: \"it was found near the coast of the Utah beach\". \n\nAs for the \"no Marines landed on D-Day\" thing - which I didn't mention at all - sure, a member of the Army or Navy could have traded for an ornamental desk lighter, been deployed to Normandy, decided to bring an ornamental lighter with him to his deployment in Normandy, then lost it or perished. Let's say that string of events happened. The fact remains the lighter wouldn't have survived, to this day, in this condition. That's not how things work in real life.", ">> ^ this is dumb. Nobody claimed it was on the beach, nor even anywhere near the beach.\n>\n>Congrats, you didn't even read the description of the video: \"it was found near the coast of the Utah beach\". \n\nOk, so again. Normandy is a vast area of over 30,000 sq KM along the coast of France.\n\nNormandy includes the beach, but also goes well into mainland France. \n\nTo say something was found near the coast could mean anything, it doesn't mean it was found in the sand you dumbass. \n\nSomething could be buried in mud 1 KM away from the beach in a field, no where near salt - and be said to be found near the coast of Normandy. \n\n>As for the \"no Marines landed on D-Day\" thing - which I didn't mention at all - \n\nI never said you did. \n\n>sure, a member of the Army or Navy could have traded for an ornamental desk lighter, been deployed to Normandy, decided to bring an ornamental lighter with him to his deployment in Normandy, then lost it or perished.\n\nYou do know that there was a static forward base in Normandy for over a year right? \n\nThat means desks, offices, all sorts of you know static things you would find in a static base. \n\nSo I'm glad you logically deduced that maybe it's possible someone working at a static base may have something that is kept on a desk. \n\n >Let's say that string of events happened. The fact remains the lighter wouldn't have survived, to this day, in this condition. That's not how things work in real life.\n\nSo copper doesn't exist in fields for 70 years? \n\nInteresting. Better go tell archaeologists this new fact you claim.", "Again, you seem to be bringing other people's arguments into this. I never mentioned or refuted many of your points - please leave the straw-man argument at home. Plus, I'm using the information posted by the content creator; you're relying on conjecture.\n\nBut let's back it up: right now, you're posturing \"someone in the army traded with a marine for a desk lighter, was deployed to an FOB in Normandy, decided to bring the ornamental desk lighter with them to the FOB - which was far, far, away from the coast (against the claims of the person who posted this video) - then lost it or was lost, then that ornamental desk lighter was perfectly buried as to preserve it over 75+ years with absolutely symmetrical tarnishing, none of which eroded the structural integrity of the external screws/moving parts.\" I am posturing \"a channel that relies on views for revenue stretched the truth to get more views\". \n\nNow I ask you: who is the dumbass in this equation?", ">Again, you seem to be bringing other people's arguments into this. I never mentioned or refuted many of your points - please leave the straw-man argument at home.\n\nI made a statement about dumbass comments, of which yours was one of many. I listed others to highlight how stupid they all were - yours included. \n\nThis isn't a straw man, this is called a discussion with context. It seems you do not even know what a straw man is, nor can you seem to follow along a debate you seem to be having a wee temper tantrum over. \n\n> Plus, I'm using the information posted by the content creator; you're relying on conjecture.\n\nYou are making conjecture that it was found on or near the beach and must have been exposed to salt. \n\nThere's no proof of this, you're assuming since it was found 'near the coast of Normandy' that it must have been on the beach or near salt. \n\nGuess what, I live near the coast.. but guess what? I can't see the coast.. nor do my garden plants die from salt. \n\nCrazy how that works, eh? \n\nSo again, I shall explain this to you one last time. Hopefully you finally get it: an item can be found near the coast.. literally 1000 ft away from the beach, in a feild, and not be exposed to salt. \n\nNow my assumption was based upon your supposed expertize, that should this have been near salt it would not exist any longer, so therefore it was not near salt - then we must assume that it was found near the coast of Normandy but not actually on the beach.\n\nI'm using your own assumptions to base this. So unless you're telling me you're full of shit and wrong? I am unsure of your point. \n\n\n>But let's back it up: right now, you're posturing \"someone in the army traded with a marine for a desk lighter, was deployed to an FOB in Normandy, decided to bring the ornamental desk lighter with them to the FOB - which was far, far, away from the coast (against the claims of the person who posted this video) - then lost it or was lost, then that ornamental desk lighter was perfectly buried as to preserve it over 75+ years with absolutely symmetrical tarnishing, none of which eroded the structural integrity of the external screws/moving parts.\" I am posturing \"a channel that relies on views for revenue stretched the truth to get more views\". \n>\n>Now I ask you: who is the dumbass in this equation?\n\nNow you're just being retarded, you are conflating my response to dumbasses saying 'no Marines landed on D-Day!' as evidence this isn't real, into your debate on wether this item is genuine or not. \n\nI have no idea if this is genuine or not, I've said as much many times. I didn't make this video.\n\nMy point that different organizations traded memerobelia is a fact, and a fact that means just because a marine object was found somewhere - does not mean a marine had to be there. That's the end of the point. It has nothing to do with your argument wether the item is genuine or not, it was to do with the debate about Marines being in Normandy. \n\nLastly, surely you have something better to do on a Friday than argue about a YouTube video?\n\nI mean, genuine or not.. who cares? If it's genuine, great... If it's not? Shrug your shoulders and go on with your day. \n\nIt's literally what I did, until you started throwing a hissy fit over this video.", "Jesus christ dude, just... good luck with life.", "It is actually almost exclusively USCG members that would navigate landing craft during WW2, as they were really the only people that had the expertise to navigate such small craft in such shallow waters.\n\nNot only that, but if I remember correctly, Signalman First Class Douglas A. Munro is the only service member to be awarded an MOH when recommended by a member of another branch (I know it was a Marine, fairly sure a general)." ]	169	videos	Restoring a rare American Marine lighter found recently on Utah Beach, from D-Day 1944. No voice over, just the sound of history being brought back to life.
https://youtu.be/ozezG1zpxXQ	/r/videos/comments/qh55ap/red_flags_ft_montaigne_official_video/	[ "That’s a banger", "Love Montaigne!", "I can't believe they made three of them. \n\nThere's part of me that wants to see them to make doubly sure they suck and that there's nothing redeeming about them, but then there's another part of me reminding me that I'll never get that time back.\n\nOh, right, also great song, as always.", "The first one is watchable. It has its moments that are at least novel and entertaining.\n\nThe second one is just “how gross can we make this”\n\nNever got around to the third. Not planning on it.", "Wonder if he's ever going to collab with Loop Daddy - seems like a match made in heaven", "It's the staarrrrt of something beautiful.", "Tom Cardy always slaps.", "I've heard rumors that the first one was just the director or whoever testing the waters to see how far they could take things, and the second one was what they actually wanted to do in the first movie. I just thought this tidbit would brighten your day so there you go!", "The collab I didn't know I wanted so badly", "That was worth it just for last 45 seconds lmao", "wait what.\n\nI thought there was only the one. And that one was okay for it's shock value and unique concept. Kind of like A Serbian Film.\n\nyeah, not gonna watch the other two" ]	11	videos	Red Flags ft. Montaigne (official video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWaMxCk0InI	/r/videos/comments/qh59gq/the_way_everyone_shuts_up_at_040_when_they_realize/	[ "Link that starts at the time OP mentioned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWaMxCk0InI&t=0m40s\n****************************************** \nI'm a bot. Bleep bloop. \n[source](https://github.com/ConorSheehan1/YouTubeTimestampRedditBot) \| version 2.3.0", "So what happens at 40 seconds? Didn't see anything unusual.", "Everyone suddenly shuts up.", "Piano player was not hitting the chord changes correctly, probably just winging it.", "But why? What do they realize?", "That it's Lea Salonga, the original singing voice for Mulan (and Jasmine), and basically Broadway royalty giving them a private performance of one of her iconic songs.", "OP is suggesting they realize that she's the actual singing voice of Mulan from the Disney movie.", "That 0:40 mark where everyone goes silent gives me all the feels", "One girl at my elementary school sang this song every year for talent show.", "did she ever figure out when her reflection will show who she is inside?", "They realize that 15 minutes could save them 15% by switching to Geico™", "Hold up. Everyone shut the fuck up. You for real?!", "Bodyworks!", "Who?", "it's the point at which you can tell you're listening to the actual actress, or at least someone doing an impression so good that it's impossible to tell the difference.\n\nIt's not a \"seeing\" situation. Nothing visually changes, it's an auditory thing.", "Lea Salonga. She is the original singing voice for Mulan (and Jasmine), and basically Broadway royalty. In the above video, she is giving a private performance of one of her iconic songs.", "[ Jump to 00:40 @ Lea Salonga Sings Reflection from Mulan - Video by Keala Settle](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWaMxCk0InI&t=0h0m40s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: LSFP, Video Popularity: 99.57%, Video Length: [01:47])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@00:35](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWaMxCk0InI&t=0h0m35s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Star Lord.", "Or just someone good at singing", "They realize who she is inside.", "Good botfelicia", "I experienced something like this once. Years ago I went to watch a friend’s band play in a crowded bar. First band finished, and there’s several minutes of the usual bar noise. Then a woman gets on stage with an acoustic guitar and starts singing, and the entire bar shuts up to listen. It was pretty amazing.", "I'm no musician, but it seems to me that Disney has it's own little variation on the \"musical\" style. \n\nIs this just my imagination? I the only one who feels like you can tell the difference between the syrup of Disney songs and the popcorn of Broadway songs?", "That song always makes me emotional. It's so beautiful and sad. Me too, Mulan", "I know what you mean, but it's the type of thing where if they DON'T enunciate very clearly the words become hard to understand. Especially in the context of a live show or other stuff going on in a movie.", "Never heard of him.", "Nothing. 0:40 is where she sings loudly and causes the automatic gain control (AGC) from the microphone to cut out the quieter noises. The AGC then briefly returns to normal at 0:48, and at other times. There is evidence of dishes clinking together in the background noise, also there was some dude that casually walked behind the singer.\n\nOP is claiming that everyone is getting quiet, when what really happens is she is just singing louder. She sings louder because that's the part in the song when the she is supposed to sing louder. This loudness means we can't hear the talking from the crowd because we're listening through a microphone from a phone.\n\nTL:DR - She was singing louder, no one was \"shutting up\".\n\nTime stamps of other noises (definitely not people shutting up)\n\n1:02 - Some dude hasn't shut up.\n\n1:05 More dishes getting done", "The guy in the back ground who whips his phone out...\n\nBruh enjoy the moment", "Cry all you want. He’s right.", "Miss Saigon is also awesome.\n\nEdit: shit, she was in Les Mis too? She kicks ass.", "Here’s her and Brad Kane singing a whole new world in the studio\n\nhttps://youtu.be/pi_Ocd9IALc", "She's the actual singer for Mulan and Princess Jasmine.", "Pretty sure this commenter in the \"akshually\" kid from Polar Express", "Filipino icon, Miss Lea Salonga 😭🙌\n\n(Singer-voice for Princess Jasmine in Aladdin movie)", "Probably when she realized there was a PLASTT pose, and subreddit. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nlul.", "Someone yells SHUT UP", "https://youtu.be/JiQHNS85I3g\n\nHere's another fun video of her singing A Whole New World.", "Who?", "I love this so much.", "We had a girl like that, but she sang Once Upon A December from Anastasia", "Saw her in Once On This Island and she was incredible.\n\nOh, and she’s the singing voice behind Mulan!", "disney legend \n\n\nShe provided the singing voices of two official Disney Princesses: Jasmine in Aladdin (1992) and Fa Mulan in Mulan (1998). She was named a Disney Legend in 2011 for her work with The Walt Disney Company.", "Maybe so. One factor that could also add to this Disney style is that Disney musicals are made as cinematic productions, and the songs for Broadway musicals are written for the live theater stage. In my mind at least, I think of Disney songs as sounding like a solo singer with an orchestra, and a pristine perfectly controlled studio sound. And I think of Broadway showtunes as often being a loud chorus of singers belting it out, captured with a more natural live sound.\n\nI think both types of musicals are usually aimed at audiences of all ages, but Disney musicals are more skewed towards children, while Broadway is more targeted at adults.", "Haha, I laughed.", "Your ignorance is showing.", "lol what are you talking about? There were a few tiny mistakes here and there, but they played virtually all of the chords correctly and in time. Most likely they were sight reading, which certainly doesn't warrant you coming on here acting like you know things you don't just to criticize them.", "That \"warbled\" sound is called vibrato, and there are very few styles of music where it isn't used.", "Negative. Volume of piano doesn't change. Fewer people are chattering. \"Everyone\" obviously doesn't shut up, but many people do.", "Negative. Volume of piano doesn't change. Fewer people are chattering. \"Everyone\" obviously doesn't shut up, but many people do.", "False.", "Fuck em up! Grrrrrrr. Other redditor was mean for no reason.", "One of the best parts of having cameras everywhere is getting little videos like this. Imagine if Annie had been drinking at a bar and someone caught her casually performing \"The hard knock life\".", "Pretty sure everyone realized as soon as she started singing", "I will forever appreciate people singing the background of a song. \"Don't you dare close your eyes!\"", "You realise that the only reason you're able to enjoy this moment is that someone else whipped their phone out.", "Yeah but I’ve heard people say vibrato is like cholesterol. A little bit is ok.", "Watch Le Miserables. You’ll hate it.", "Take a breath, close your eyes, and think about what you invested in this post.", "_Because_ she started singing louder.", "They had their phone out before the moment started, gtfo out of here", "Here's when she was first discovered by the mainstream for the musical \"Ms. Saigon\"\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTm5yHJsnWg&t=318s&ab\\_channel=AleGomez](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTm5yHJsnWg&t=318s&ab_channel=AleGomez)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nHere is her singing \"On My Own\" from Les Miserables at karaoke\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIdRlWqwd\\_U&ab\\_channel=Batangueno\\_](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIdRlWqwd_U&ab_channel=Batangueno_)", "Time you enjoy wasting wasn't wasted. Also, I could say the same to you.", "> Pretty sure this commenter is the [\"akshually\" kid from Polar Express](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7anyURHOEo)\n\nThat dude is annoying.", "> \"Everyone\" obviously doesn't shut up\n\nYup, which is why I was calling out the title.\n\n> The way everyone shuts up at 0:40 when they realize", "Haha that's not the point you were making at all you backpedaling liar.", "The point I was making was that not everyone was shutting up, and my second post was pointing out that my point was that not everyone was shutting up.\n\nOh man, you're right, I am soooooo back pedalling.\n\nHow dare I change my opinion from: \"not everyone was shutting up\" to \"not everyone was shutting up, even though the title says everyone was shutting up\"." ]	64	videos	The way everyone shuts up at 0:40 when they realize
https://youtu.be/efz6YZALXCw	/r/videos/comments/qh5pgz/trailer_for_tiger_king_2/	[ "Does this mean another pandemic lockdown is coming?", "Should’ve named it two-ger king smh", "What a bunch of loathsome people.", "Uuuuggggghhhhhhhhhh", "Im never going to emotionally recover from this.", "Way to strike while the iron's cold, Netflix!", "This would be such a great series if it was fictional. The fact these are real Tigers being exploited and real scumbags are profiting off of it—in large part from Netflix giving them global notoriety—makes it so hard to watch.", "On one hand the publicity from the series helped get Exotic's park shut down, and caused Antle some headaches as well.\n\nBut yeah, I can't help but think this is now turning into Joe Exotic's way of making a living.", "I mean they are contacting him in prison, they are 100% feeding into his delusion of grandeur. And likely his bank account. Season 1 has the exemption of being the exposé, season 2 is nothing more than a money grab." ]	9	videos	Trailer for Tiger King 2
https://youtu.be/cSMleysAsso	/r/videos/comments/qh6frs/aurora_borealis_live_seen_from_finland/	[ "cant tell if thats a cloud or not.", "https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x9CEl0sfW7I\n\nCW McCall sets the mood.", "Aurora Borealis? At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the country, localized entirely whithin this youtube stream?", "Auril doing her nightly duties.", "The house is on fire.", "No mother, it’s just the northern lights" ]	6	videos	Aurora Borealis - LIVE , seen from Finland
https://youtu.be/0waUmU3dd0E	/r/videos/comments/qh7347/leave_the_kids_out_of_it/	[ "So this guy says fuck you to another guy but the other guy is the one with the problem. Hmmmm.", "That is extremely fucked up…", "Ah, it's good he found a grift in the minor leagues.\n\nEdit: His newest video is hilarious. It's watching the high school chud try to rap about inflation, while stating that he doesn't want to be educated on it. Then spends the rest of the video ranting about Biden, even after saying \"this isn't a left vs right thing\". A+ caricature.", "Yo, what the fuck is the beginning of this video not satire?", "Guy can rap.\nStarted listening to another of his videos, and decided to stop. Feel like I'll start getting qanon-type suggestions in my feed. Seems talented, messages are just not resonating with me.", "inb4 the rest of reddit starts calling this guy a nazi", "Man can rap.", "Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.", "I get Qanon and extreme right-wing suggestions in my feed anyways, because it's all astroturfed and/or literally advertising paid for by deep pockets.", "> I believe that you should be who you want to be 'cause this is the land of the free but that's the wrong direction\n\nYou're free to be who you want to be, unless I disagree with it.", "Grift? You think he doesn't believe what he's saying?", "Yeah honestly that's the most le reddit thing I've ever seen", "I got the same question lol.", "Does it matter?", "None of this matters smart guy you’re on Reddit right now", "I bet that baby is going to have more support and love that a lot of hetero couples. Nothing wrong with any of this, except that angry white dude casting judgement.", "no, nazis and facists are nazis and fascists. This guy is just a giant douche bag.", "That’s why he rapped about it", "I avoid looking to youtube for political things, so I don't really get much politics in my suggestions. Primarily comedians, cooking stuff, maybe clips from old tv shows/commercials (part of why I hate advertising so much is my brain is filled with fucking 40-year-old commercial jingles, Demolition Man be damned), video games.\n\nI don't disagree about astroturfing. I just don't think I fit anyone's demo. Also, I block ads out the ass.", "To be fair, I wouldn't really care to listen to it much if he was spewing liberal propaganda, either. That's not my use case for music.", "So we all agree the baby can't tell the difference, right?", "I block ads every way I can, but I haven't figured out a way to get around them on the youtube mobile app. I actively mute the phone and look away in petty defiance. But those conservative political ads don't stop, the prager U ads don't stop, the hacky un-news \"patriot\" \"\"\"\"newspaper\"\"\"\" ads don't stop.", "Fantastic.\n\nGreat rap, great video, great point.", "Sadly, it is not.", "i dont think hed believe it if it didnt get him so much attention. just saw something about comedians in this kinda situation specifically how andrew clay silverstein turned into his stage persona the diceman in real life. he was a caricature at first but it was the most popular part of his act early on, it became his act and eventually he became the character. id still call it a grift, just one that the grifter fell for too. positive attentions a hell of a drug and the mind is one powerful thing\n\nedit: believe it as strongly/focus on it so much", "There are alternative apps out there. Some people get upset if you say their names.\n\nOne of them is an advanced version of youtube, just no ad in it. Another is a pipe, but it's not the old one. Good luck!", "And there is a possibility for biological males to lactate. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/strange-but-true-males-can-lactate/\n\nFrom this clip I have no idea what the couple did to prepare and induce lactation, but it's not impossible or absurd. I doubt anyone would claim the the missionaries mentioned in the article have a kink, or were imposing a fetish on an infant.", ">i dont think hed believe it if it didnt get him so much attention.\n\nI know plenty of guys that get far less attention that have the same opinions. It's just that politics is a hustle right now.", "It's been medically documented as recently as 2018 that hormone regimens allowed a 30 year old transgender woman to breastfeed her child. Albeit, with formula supplementation. Her child was under supervision of a physician at the time and confirmed that the breast milk produced by the trans woman with the help of an anti-nausea drug and hormone regimen was nutritionally sound. That said, she was unable to produce enough for it to be the sole source of nutrition for the child, but that's a fairly normal experience that women have.\n\nIn addition, plenty of women have the experience of being unable to suckle their child right away, as it takes time for lactation to kick in. It is not abnormal to allow a newborn to latch if a woman is unable to produce milk, because the mechanical impact of feeding is known to trigger lactation.\n\nMen and women have the same hardware above the waist, and breast development can occur in biological males at any time in their life, provided the hormones are in place for it to occur.\n\nThere's... Kinda no debate here on this in the medical community. Pieces of this puzzle were considered to be common knowledge of physicians in the 1700s. The main piece of the puzzle we've figured out is the role that individual hormones play in sexual differentiation and other morphological and behavioral changes to the body. The body's just kinda weird. My main beef with anti-trans messaging like this is that it really isn't as simple as they paint everything. Sex isn't even a binary, much less gender. The reality of being a squishy meatbag is gross and weird and complicated, no matter how you prefer to dress.", "if hes not just playing this character/the audience id be surprised if this guy isnt further into these beliefs and more preoccupied by them because of the attention and following. theres a million kids that can rap out there people are coming to him for the politics. p fuggin corny imo", "Being kind of a shithead is kind of a tradition for rappers. What's weird is that shitting on rap as not being music is a tradition for the right wing. \n\n\nI'd call it progress... But... I mean.", "theyll still shit on rap “except this one guy i like who talks about REAL stuff” lmao", "Did you grow up on a schoolyard playground?", "I mean, I went to school… but we had a house? I spent an hour or so on a playground 5 days a week.", "Idk, but I know it is quite clear he is leaning farther into right wing propaganda over time. You can watch the progression in his old videos. The only ones that get views are related to outrage white identity politics. Almost assuredly, he was a 'BoTh SiDeS!' chud.\n\nIt's most likley a natural magnification of tendencies, as the market is incentivizing him to do.", "Exactly this. The same way that they pick which black people to listen to.", "Lol most kids in America don't, but he doesn't rap about them.", "Won't stop this 'rapper' from proclaiming \"science supports me!\" based on the ninth grade bio class he slept through lol.", "Okay that’s not a grift at all", "Okay that is a grift", "His schoolmates are going to find out he sucked a man's nipple as a baby. Now whether you believe that's right, wrong, or otherwise kids don't care. Can you imagine being that kid and your classmates finding that video? No matter what vision of an egalitarian society you paint in your mind, kids don't care.", "Everybody gets bullied. I don’t think kids need anything specific to decide to pick on each other. This kid might have more family support than say, a hetero family that has 6 kids and both parents are alcoholics. Maybe they will homeschool the kid. It’s speculation to say that they’re harming the child. I think families that stick the kid in front of the tv, spend all their time staring at a phone will do far more harm than wanting to switch roles. Check your biases, ask yourself why you think this is wrong? Self analysis is never a bad thing, and having the ability to question your own beliefs makes a person stronger.", "People get bullied to different degrees of severity. Putting all people into the same category because they might have experienced a bullying scenario is not an earnest argument. Most of your argument is a strawman. Honestly, I didn't expect a response like this. Thanks for participating with me, ima head out." ]	56	videos	Leave the kids out of it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=se7csr5LZgU	/r/videos/comments/qh7b7d/in_honor_of_halloween_coming_up_teen_witch_top/	[ "Love this song haha!!!", "Reminds me of this classic from about the same time lol\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By86PcLufOU", "Watched it last weekend", "A lot of people don’t realize that this movie invented rap music.", "OMG! He's so funky!!", "6:00pm Disney Channel original movie type beat", "Is that her rapping or is it Roxxanne?", "No matter how many times I’ve seen this clip, it’s still surprisingly bad.", "The 80s really were a magical time.", "Oh dear god… what were we thinking.", "No matter how many times I watch this, I’ll never understand how they thought that was cool.", "Your username sake suggests the drugs and emotions driving such things.", "Completely forgot about this movie. I needed this somehow.", "I personally remember thinking to my \\~11 year old self, why the fuck do these loser white people love boy bands and white person faux rap so much.", "Is this movie streaming anywhere? I loved this as a kid i haven't watched in forever", "Please someone who was alive when this came out answer me this: was this cool? Like did people think these guys were tough? How was this received, or was it always cringy as shit?", "Not even in the same ballpark. Top That was a campy song from a corny movie. Hangin Tough took the damn world by storm in the early 90s, it's where Mark E Mark Wahlberg got his start!", "Cool then, cool now", "wat", "I was 9ish, my other siblings ranged from 10-14 and none of us thought this was stupid at the time. I remember thinking she really told them! I can't even watch it now, I cringe just thinking about it, lol.", "The Real Roxxane? Or Roxxane Shante?!", "It was never “cool”. It was hip.", "I loved this back in the day. Thanks for the memory trip.", "Name a better female Jewish rapper? Top THAT!", "Amazing! The more you know!", "Are you saying that Mark Wahlberg (Marky Mark) got his start in the 90’s or that Hanging Tough was a hit song of his. If it’s the former you are correct, the latter then you’re incorrect as the New Kids on the Block sang Hangin Tough, though Mark’s brother Donnie Wahlberg is in the New Kids so maybe that’s where the confusion is??", "Totally Rad Show recreation of this is the best https://youtu.be/GwY0sciWZp0 miss you guys", "Never thought it was cool or these guys were though", "Thought you would go for https://youtu.be/Ti1bFMBd6V4?t=203", "It's free on YouTube. 🤣 I remember really liking this movie.", "Anyone remember that Lonely Island (pre-SNL Andy Samberg) [video on this called dude-atude](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qHlYp9TpB0)?", "Gangsta Recognize Gangsta", "Yeah Shante.. even if she tries to make [something wack on purpose it's better than this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8mF_YXmxm4).", "I was older than 1 when this came out and it was, in fact, \"cool\" at the time.", "I've seen this many times on the internet over the past few years but my absolute favorite part is the edit when the girls notice the guys and just say \"Oh my god\" and it cuts back to the 3 dudes dancing in sync all goofy as shit.\n\nI'd have the same reaction.", "This is cool as ice.", "I watched this when I was six. Seemed pretty cool at the time. Though it’s obviously marketed to kids.", "It's the one where I'm correct 👍👍", "I like the fact that the other girl takes both bikes to the other side of the interaction so the rapping girl can seamlessly walk away.", "I was 1 when this came out. Did not appeal to me at all. I was more into recognizing simple shapes and colors, seeing what sound the doggy makes, etc.", "Sus.", "I want my money back", "God I hate how often I watched this fucking thing", "This is amazing", "[Natalie Portman!](https://youtu.be/-A0iftflme4)\n\n[And also...](https://youtu.be/QS8bma7LRX4)", "You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about", "I stand all the way corrected. Good call!", "Holy fuck the amount of cuts the editor had to make", "The cast was 100% aware that what they were doing was lame but they did what actors do and sold it as best as they could. Good or bad, the next casting agent will look at them favorably because they behaved professionally.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/Su0OlBzMsiE", "The redhead is Blake Lively's older sister.", "As a Jays fan, I don’t know how I feel about seeing the whole clip.", "It was just fun.", "It might have been cool to really young kids but I was 11 and thought it wanked. I still have a thing for Polly. I like her moves and I love this movie.", "Yeah, they really leaned into it too, not only was the actress from the tribe, the character in teen witch was named Polly Goldenberg-Cohen", "At first I was with it, then they changed what it was. Now what's it seems weird and scary to me. It'll happen to you...", "I don’t give a ——- about that", "That’s part of the witchcraft.", "That's the real witch power", "Don’t whine or you’ll get turned into a dog.", "Huh well TIL Natalie Portman's real name is Natalie Hershlag.", "yeah that was the jam in 8th grade along with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qixMmcXh0E", "Louiiiiiiiseeeeeee, Louiiiiiiiseeeeee LOL", "linked?", ">It was hip.\n\nhop", "Wow, Paul Rudd still hasn’t aged a day.", "...Eminem stole that rap from an 80s band?", "This was a terrible movie, and this was such a terrible part and I am SO fucking happy to be watching it right here. Right now.", "Thanks, its cool to have some context behind this scene.", "Good lord that was awful. I thought it was a parody, until I realized I saw that movie in the theater when I was 19.", "Not having seen the original film this is what my mind went to first as well", "Sister-in-law", "Spellcheck doesn’t like “wanked” I guess.", "I feel embarrassed and I'm by myself.", "Gosh I was like in 4th/5th grade. I would try to mimic Louise’s style and thought I cool because I had a jean jacket and Electric Youth perfume. Man this brought back some memories.", "I remember the media used to talk about if they had enough street cred to maintain their popularity. Looking back at this is hilarious.", "I was 13. I thought it was dumb as hell…but honestly at 13 I thought everything was dumb as hell.", "Good times!", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etviGf1uWlg", "I really thought this was cool as a child. But my aunt who was a teenager at the time probably thought it was ridiculous. \n\nI haven’t seen this clip in a long time and I don’t remember it being so…terrible.", "Back then (can’t believe I just typed those words), there was quality rap. And then it appeared everywhere. Commercials. Teachers trying to “relate” to the kids. Movies like this. Other than the genuine rap, it was all lame.", "That's a great spot. Good to see they all have a good perspective about it. A lot of the time, acting is just a job.", "I loooved her when I was a little kid. I thought she was Andi from the Goonies for a while.", "I don’t remember 80’s rapper guys wearing capri jeans do you?", "The best video on the internet.", "There’s a direct line from this scene to Watch The Throne", "Now kiss him right on his 17 dicks!", "How does this cause actual physical pain in me?", "There’s something magical about actors going all in. It gives you something to watch in a mediocre movie. It’s like Michael Ironside chewing low budget scenery in a straight to VHS film.", "The Lonely Island made a hilarious mockumentary about the rap group in Teen Witch, [Dude-a-Tude](https://youtu.be/0qHlYp9TpB0)", "Top that", "Jenna Maroney taught me this", "I would be so afraid to do something like htat...just in case somebody was there to film it.", "They did their job well. They’d have probably gotten paid to phone it in but it’s all about booking the next role.", "I was 15 and a huge fan of rap and hip-hop culture. This scene was pure cringe. There was nothing authentic about it, and was a prime example of cultural appropriation.", "Why did you make me watch that lmao 🤣 I couldn’t look away", "Robin Lively is so hot", "My God I thought this must have been a fever dream whenever I've randomly remembered this over the past two decades. I must have seen it when I was super young but I could never remember where it's from and knew it was so stupid that I started doubting anyone would have made it.", "love this song", "[Alia Shawkat?](https://youtu.be/p57kmree73w)", "😏", "The cringe is off the charts I can’t take it", "Did you want to be the most popular girl? \n\nI like how all the kids have “Louise” signs once she’s so cool.", "I don’t really give a ——— about tryin’ to top that!", "And what is wanked in this context lol", "Top that!", "Had such a crush on Robyn Lively", "This takes me back. Way back.", "Classic.\n\n[Uncensored version](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhaodv)", "I'm not sure what this is supposed to be... Run DMC backup dancer tryout slams into after-school special?", "He does it in big budget ones too, Highlander 2 anyone?", "[extremely relevant](https://twitter.com/imaliwaller/status/22830752785764352)", "I bet all 5 of them regret making this movie.", "I remember watching this on cable like a year after it was In Theaters. \nI was a year or two behind them all in middle school. I thought they were all so cool. 😎", "Reckonize", "I was 12 when this came out, I was about 13 when I saw it - can confirm.", "Sometimes I really, really wonder how actors manage to do some of these things without cringing.", "Well, isn’t this just a fine little vidya… thanks for this!", "> It was hip\n\nfunky", "A hippy", "She doesn't give a...?\nI'll never be hip like them", "Back when music was good! \n\nI don’t know what kids today listen to, but back then we were really illin. \n\nTop That!", "Ok but where is the scene where they’re learning sex Ed and he breaks into a rap about names for the penis?", "Put this back in r/cringe where it belongs!", "And dancing.", "Honestly probably not cool then, but weirdly enough fucking awesome now. This nostalgia wave is hitting my brain hard lol. Obviously it isn’t great as an actual song, but as a scene in a movie or a rap producer sound byte this shit fucking slaps.", "Damn, thought that was Paul Rudd for a second :(", "Yes, they did a really good job.\n\nSome people \"do their job\", but do the bare minimum.\n\nYou seem to be having trouble understanding the difference between \"doing\" a job and doing a very good job, especially in circumstances where others might not.\n\nI find teaching is a good example. Say most teachers prefer to get a fulltime teaching job at a well-established school for a good salary. Well, many teachers have to work part-time, or only take temporary contracts for a few years (or longer) before they get offered any sort of permanent job. Some part time teachers simply don't put much effort in. It's not their class, it's not their school, and likely most people won't notice how their one day of teaching affected anything. However, other teachers go above and beyond to try their best - even in these scenarios.\n\nBoth teachers did their job. The second example of teachers clearly did a better job.", "Listen to rap god again, he gives jj fad a shout out, and even if he didn't this sort of borrowing is pretty common in hip-hop, ever heard \"99 Problems\" by Ice-T? Jay Z didn't steal it, everyone knew where it was from. Or when Slick Rick sang \"Ricky Ricky Ricky, can't you see Somehow your words just hypnotize me\" back in '85.", "Hell yeah man. Plus, respect to any adult or teen willing to give it an honest go, making media for the younger.", "Well, no. Before Nas released Illmatic rapping really fast was the style de jour.", "The Beastie Boys.", "I've seen this scene quite a few times but never saw that retrospective. Really cool and interesting, even the kids were like \"okay wtf but I guess we're topping that\".", "Lindsay Ellis brought attention to Teen Witch over ten years ago, back in her 'Nostalgia Chick' days. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkPPHXtqY5U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkPPHXtqY5U)\n\nIt's a solid analysis and a fun video. She has no love for most of her earlier work, this included (partially due to how fucked up things were at 'Channel Awesome'), but I think a lot of it is still a good watch, including this/", "Seeing as neither of them really did anything after that, I don’t think anyone looked on it favorably. The guy dancing basically went into voice acting.", "Can't nobody top that... Teen Witch Bitches!", "I mean, I wasn't exactly Mr. popular, and was far from cool, but I remember most people (myself included) thinking it was terrible.\n\nIt certainly bombed on release. It cost $2.5 million, and made a whopping $27,843 .", "Awesome. Also, I forgot Natasha Leggaro is in this.", "To who? No one saw it until much later. It only made $24k (on a 2.4 million budget).", "To kids. \nI was a kid. \nSo money is the only meteic for \"cool\"? \nIt was on HBO almost on repeat after the theater time was over.", "Watched a really good episode of Tales From the Crypt last night w/ Ironside in it. Dude’s a scene stealer!", "BARS", "What I mean is the lyrics for the sumanumaduma part are basically the same as in Eminem's 'Rap God'! I hadn't known.", "Ah. Yeah he also makes very frequent allusion to old school influential stuff like that.", "This song gave me cancer.", "From the much worse unreleased version of Natalie's Rap: Call me Natalie Hershlag youll ride in Natalie's hearse, jag", "That's Blake Lively's sister.", "This should be posted in Cringe", "I'm going on 40 years old, there's still only so much of this video I can endure", "tim curry and michael ironside are probably my two absolute favorites", "I’ve never crushed anyone besides accused witches", "They found so many ways to rhyme “that” with “that”. Incredible.", "So great to see the actors and writers talk about this and have such a nice positive attitude towards it.\n\nAlso, how beautiful is Robyn Lively still?! I guess there's some strong genes in that family.", "ouuch my culture...", "Look at how funky* he is. I will never be hip.", "It certainly wasn't cool but it wasn't as cringe-inducing as it is with hindsight. It is undoubtedly cheesy and lame but it is closer to what 'proper' rap was like at the time, than what it is now. While Noah Blake (the actor who played Rhet) is bang on when he says white people didn't have a handle on what rap was, you also need to remember that the genre itself was in its infancy.\n\nRap from the 80s is pretty basic, with slow, simple flow and ABAB or AABB rhyme schemes. It wasn't until people like Mos Def, Roots, Rakim, MF Doom, Biggie, and Snoop started to really explore the genre that we got the variety, depth, and complexity that you see in rap now.\n\nIf you are interested in the evolution of rap, [this is a great short video about it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWveXdj6oZU).", "this just reminds me of all the anti drug speak singing mandatory assemblies at high school.", "To me this will always be the intro for Retard-o-Tron", "The redhead’s older brother is Jason Lively (European Vacation).", "Heehee thank you I’d forgotten about the most embarrassing piece of cinema ever made!", "That was a good watch, cheers! \n\nGood to see they can have fun with it now and aren't bitter about it becoming a cult classic scene.", "I'll never be hip...", "It's one of those terrible scenes that is so bad it's enjoyable, it's cringey but it In a fun way. I could see my drunk self attempting to rap it to my mates.", "So sad they never made a Highlander sequel. So much untapped potential.", "I was in high school in 89 but never saw this movie (though I did see this clip years ago). I look back in the stuff I liked and wanted to emulate and much if it was pretty cringy, but this would not have been in that category. Maybe in California but not east coast.", "I was like 7 or 8 and didn't know better. I thought they were the tough, cool kids in school.", "“Maybe we should go back the other way…”", "[Alison Brie](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZmkKL27z1w) (in spirit of Halloween) \n[Alison Brie](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z6ir4imDSk) \n[Scarlett Johansson](https://youtu.be/fQXtxSBQGmA?t=48) \nI suppose some of Paula Abduls songs could be classified as rap too...", "Idk what the big deal is, this is how cringy I find all musicals and people eat that shit up", "But have you seen Average Homeboy - Denny Blazin’ Hazen? https://youtu.be/TXb6bjCCtuY", "I remember watching this on eBaum's World in 2006 on the family computer. Good times.", "We, as a species, have to accept we allowed this to happen and move on. I'd say this is the main reason alien life refuses to acknowledge us.", "Never seen this before, this is hilarious.\n\n“Oh my god”\n\n“They’re hip”\n\n“We should turn around”\n\nLmao", "I would like to note that as someone who actually was a teenager in the '80s, I have no idea what the fuck this is. It was a strange time without question but ffs, we were not this bad!", "deep cut", "Almost as much work as [Wang Chung](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoXu6QmxpJE)", "I was in high school in '88. This is literally the first time I've seen or heard of this scene. And if you look at the age of my account and my karma, I ain't new to the nets. No idea how this escaped me. I've even browsed lonely island videos more than once. Weird. I'm not sure I'm better or worse off for having seen it in it's entirety. Though the documentary about the actors take was nice and informative. Hopefully most celebrities that have been in this kind of cringe situation can have this perspective eventually.", "I'd be willing to bet money on a reboot.", "Could be both Eminem and JJ Fad where made big with the help of Dr Dre. there is lineage there.", "Thank you so much! I think about this movie all the time but never know where to find it.", "That Channel Awesome content gives me flashbacks to my depression laden time in college. I feel I know every one of those folks", "Nope, not watching this. Even when I was a kid and this movie was playing on rotation on HBO shortly after it’s theatrical release, I couldn’t believe the cringe it induced. I honestly thought it was so bad that no one else would ever see it, so imagine my surprise when it started making its rounds on the interwebs—and even getting a 30 Rock mention. Anyway, I’m hot. And you’re not.", "She stole her bike.", "Reconnoiter", "Agree. It wasn't \"cool\" but it was commonplace for media at the time.", "I listen to several of Jeff's podcasts still. Dan pops up every once in a blue moon on the filmcast and DLC. Alex not so much other than I know he helped Jeff start \"the dungeon run\". \n\n I was pretty disappointed when Dan backed out of uncharted movie but after seeing Mark Wahlberg as sully I think I understand some of the \"creative difference\" he had.", "This is posted all the time on /r/torontobluejays I've never seen the rest of the scene ha.", " [Kenneth did it better](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4dOkWqgM_oI)", "Okay, but that wasn't when it came out.", "Break a leg, Kiki!", "Hi. My name is Rich.", "I’d say it was always cringey to teens and adults and also geared towards little kids - like how if they want to market to 9 and 10 year olds the movie will feature 12-14 year olds. I was 21 when this came out and I don’t even remember it being advertised - it was that far off my radar as a young adult.", "I was much younger than a teenager when this movie came out, I watched it and thought \"ah, I see. This is what will be expected of me in high school.\"", "Considering how hard Hollywood is desperately grasping at straws for anything to make at all that isn't original these days, and how every box office breaking movie of the past 20 years has been sci fi or fantasy, (or the fast and the furious) it's kinda bizarre that nobody has decided to remake a movie about immortal sword fighters.", "Teen Witch only earned $27,843 in its entire theatrical release, almost nobody who was in high school at the time of its release saw or heard of it. It aired repeatedly on cable TV through the 1990s though, and became a cult hit with younger 90s kids who grew up with it, many later questioning if this movie actually existed or if it was a misremembered childhood fever dream, and rediscovering the film as adults.", "These guys should watch their back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olHEykVL9t4", "I'm gonna be the most popular girl!", "Cringe over 9k. Still less than lil rappers.", "He’s so funky.", "I would like to formally apologize for all of us Gen X’ers for the 80s and early 90s and its culture.", "Cavan Biggio and the boys after winning the World Series next year.", "Ad-Rock went to the same school as Scarlett Johansson and a lot others.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS_41", "[PS 41](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS_41) \n \n >Public School 41, Greenwich Village School, is a public elementary PreK–5 neighborhood catchment school. Founded in 1867, P.S. 41 is located in Greenwich Village in Manhattan, New York City. In 1957, the old PS 41 was torn down and replaced by a new building. On February 11, 1961, the auditorium hosted the folk singer, Doc Watson, an important event in the spread of folk music.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "\"I will never be able to top that.\"", "theres a reason i dont subscribe to /r/cringe. how can people tolerate watching this auuughhhh", "To the rhythm of a boogie the beat.", "Cringe.", "THANK YOU! \n\n\nI LOVED Teen witch when I was a teen, and to have that scene explained, is amazing!!!!", "> 3 dudes dancing in sync all goofy as shit.\n\nIf you saw this now you'd just think they were making a TikTok.", "I never thought about this but I always love stuff like that. I'd love it if she didn't move the bikes and then they had to now awkwardly shuffle by the dudes again. I think Superbad had a scene like that, where he says bye to her and then they walk the same way.", "You should link it", "When 50 year old men try to write teenagers...", "This is giving me those \"Rico Suave\" vibes.", "upvotes! upvotes! git yur free upvotes by cross-posting to r/cringe ! hot off the press!", "If you're ever nostalgic about your depressive days you should watch the Nostalgia Critic's 'review' of The Wall.\n\n[EDIT](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg4EZW3_XuA)\n\n>\"Doug wants to be a filmmaker, he wants to make art, but he can't, because he's a fundamentally incurious person who isn't much interested in what other people think or feel and all his ideas boil down to 'what if Batman met Mario?'\"", "> partially due to how fucked up things were at 'Channel Awesome\n\nWhere can I learn more?", "lmafo. Thanks but no.", "I guess Beastie Boys qualify, because they had a female drummer when they were a punk band…?", "No one was safe from there gesturing arms", "Where's /u/ThQp", "> That’s part of the witchcraft.\n\nany time you notice something like that, a wizard did it.", "https://youtu.be/4JHCXcSr1jU. From Sarah Z.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/FvedKSaHCBQ. Quinton reviews.", "This is classic eBaums world material", "I'm going back to bed.", "So you're just going to ignore the Lonely Island? \nDude-atude was from 2007.", "I'm so glad this was posted! I fucking miss TRS. To this day I'll still go back and watch Dan becomes a man clips when I need a good laugh. \n\nThat and the 40 oz of freedom episode of Diggnation is probably the hardest I've ever laughed at a podcast.", "While you're somewhat right, you're a couple years behind. And as for claiming it wasn't as cringe-inducing as it is now, you're absolutely incorrect. This was hot garbage to anyone that knew good rap at this time. It could only have been considered as cool by complete outsiders that knew almost nothing of the genre, and hip hop culture in general.\n\nI was a huge hip hop head from around 1984, and 1987 was when one of the most revolutionary hip hop albums of all time dropped: Eric B. & Rakim's Paid in Full, which moved the artform well beyond what you heard in \"Top That\" - which was more akin to what was happening when I first started listening in '84. As was the the case with all mainstream attempts at regurgitating hip hop culture, it was several years behind, and an unfathomably poor representation.\n\n1998 was about when it really made a radical leap forward, with an explosion of masterpieces dropping, probably all deeply inspired by Rakim's ridiculously advanced flow and rhyme schemes for the time : Public Enemy's Nation of Millions, Boogie Down Production's By Any Means Necessary, Bid Daddy Kane's Long Live the Kane, NWA's Straight outta Compton, Eric B. & Rakim's Follow the Leader (please listen to \"Microphone Fiend\" if you wanna hear what good rap sounded like when this movie came out), and several others.", "Part of me wants a Highlander reboot with good production value (like the Dune reboot), part of me wants the crappy production value one to remain unspoiled", "Only two years before it came out and only one before it was filmed. Also early Beastie Boys was great but certainly not complex. Rhymin' and Stealin' is actually a good example of what I was saying. It follows a pretty slow and generic flow and basic rhyming scheme.\n\nCompare it to something like [Make Some Noise](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdgLMslbDuY). That's way more complex with internal rhymes, multi-syllabic rhymes, plays on words, and crossing the bar line.", "I wrote this below, but because you're mostly getting incorrect answers, I'll share what I said there:\n\nWhile you're somewhat right, you're a couple years behind. I was a huge hip hop head from around 1984, and 1987 was when one of the most revolutionary hip hop albums of all time dropped: Eric B. & Rakim's Paid in Full, which moved the artform well beyond what you heard in \"Top That\" - which was more akin to what was happening when I first started listening in '84. As was the the case with all mainstream attempts at regurgitating hip hop culture, it was several years behind, and an unfathomably poor representation.\n\n1998 was about when it really made a radical leap forward, with an explosion of masterpieces dropping, probably all deeply inspired by Rakim's ridiculously advanced flow and rhyme schemes for the time : Public Enemy's Nation of Millions, Boogie Down Production's By Any Means Necessary, Bid Daddy Kane's Long Live the Kane, NWA's Straight outta Compton, Eric B. & Rakim's Follow the Leader (please listen to \"Microphone Fiend\" if you wanna hear what good rap sounded like when this movie came out.)\n\nSo, no, this was definitely not \"cool\". My friends that I that had been into rap for years at this point (we were between 8th & 9th grade at this time) would've broken our TV's before watching this garbage. It even pains me to try to watch it now.", ">Rap was new and white people didn't really have a handle on it.\n\n[Ya don't say](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/666/_57c8a1a431a592af806925e57258202f.png)", "No idea how reddit works. Some one posted this as i searched new and it got like max 50 upvotes maybe 3 days ago. I dont get it.", "Hmm. Fair enough. The Ellis video was 2008. Lonely Island was indeed first.", "You needed to be under 10 years old in the late 80’s to be the target group. And a girl.", "“Comin in at no. 2 is Fountains of Wayne” I about died laughing", "Agreed. I was 15-16 and would've derided every ounce of this trash. It would've resulted in nothing but visceral mockery.", "truly it gets better every year.", "I can't believe nobody has linked to THIS Halloween bad rap https://youtu.be/IgMkouBoGRw", "Camp: yes\nCultural appropriation: also yes", "I thought it was an 80s paparazzi video of fergie", "The music the played in that segment brings me back to highschool", "R/torontobluejays browsers know this well.", "I hearby submit a motion to make this the official Halloween song.", "> And as for claiming it wasn't as cringe-inducing as it is now, you're absolutely incorrect. This was hot garbage to anyone that knew good rap at this time.\n\nI think that's the difference though. When I say it wasn't as cringey back then, I kinda mean 'on average'. I think most people at the time, especially the target audience of this movie, were less aware of rap and certainly the less mainstream stuff where the innovation was starting. \nNowadays I feel like everyone has had exposure to rap, hell Eminem won an Oscar! Plus the rap and hip hop people know now is more complex and intricate than it was back then so if you watch this today, you're comparing awful, cheesy, white-movie-executive-approved rap to all the incredible years of development since, instead of the burgeoning scene at the time.", "I really wish there was an MST3K treatment of this.", "Believe it or not, this is only the second most random out of place musical number in this movie.", "Cringe, but, classic child hood moment lol", "Well then, call me Retard McSpackyPants I guess.", "Dank as fuck.", "Cinematic GOLD.", "Brings back memories of Colin and Greg Live.\n\nThe good old days.", "There's someone I can comfortably leave in the past.", "Oh? Why is that? Her newer content is largely excellent. There's a reason she was nominated for a Hugo for her videos about the Hobbit Films. She makes some of the best video essays around.", "where did you watch Tales from the Crypt, if you don't mind me asking? I've been waiting for it to hit a streaming service so I don't have to buy individual episodes, but I know the chances are slim...", "Wow thank you for that answer!", "What did I just watch?", "Holy, that was amazing.", "I watched her during most of her run on Channel Awesome, starting with her winning the contest to be the Nostalgia Chick. It was a time when really aggressive feminism(I know some people will read this like I don't support gender equality, I do. Trust me when I say \"aggressive feminism\" does not support sexual equality.) was making itself known and she made no secret of her support of it. The stories of her drunken antics didn't inspire much intellectual confidence anyway.", "Oh wow! I've never seen this movie, but I totally used to insult people with \"supersonic idiotic\" when I was 7!", "Failure of television at its finest.", "That dude looks 30 though?", "wrong; the best is after it cuts back to them and she's now scared saying \"let's go back the other way\". it's a complete 180, pure comedy", "What in the fuck did I just watch? I’m filled with so many different emotions. Confusion is a big one… alongside wonder and awe….", "Man I miss that show", "I gotcha. Makes sense. A more precise way might be \"mainstream people &/or people that hadn't been exposed to good rap\". But whatever. I see what you're saying.", "You were in High School when I was born.\n\nKind of jelly honestly, I hear the 80s were pretty interesting.", "Sure enough, not a problem! That was like my heyday years where school was going fine, had a big crew of skaters that all loved all kinds of music and went to shows all the time, and skating every free minute. So I really like to reflect on it. And a lot people didn't live through it, either b/c their younger or they just hadn't been exposed yet. I was lucky to stumble into it in 84 when I was like 11 - and was immediately blown away, and hooked.", "Yeah I'm surprised she didn't win an award for this", "This scene is great, but [this prom scene](https://youtu.be/rC-kMbQlGsM) will always be my favorite.", "The clumsiness running parallel to the performances in the original is where the charm lies.", "Stop that.", ">\tAnd if you look at the age of my account and my karma\n\n[Heh. ](https://i.imgur.com/f3dfxPk.jpg)", "Showbiz isn’t for everybody. It’s demoralizing for even established actors. Also, don’t knock voice acting. It requires tremendous talent and I give props to anybody that can make a living doing it.", "She’s Blake Lively’s sister.", "TL;DR: White execs need to punch up movie that wasn't working, \"This new rap thing is a hit with the kids, let's do a rap\", Get composer that's never written rap before, white execs approve, force young actors to do goofy performance in \"cool\" attire, put voice track over actors' performance, release film. History made.", "Sooo funky", "\"Cool\" as in something to emulate in your normal life? Hell no. \"Cool\" as in something weird, memorable and hilarious? Absolutely. Nobody thought they were tough, and it was cringe in the best way.\n\nThis was what some old white studio execs thought you audiences would find \"hip\" and \"funky\". To be fair, I would ironically call it both.", "Hey, credit where it's due. Educational rap from conservative old white women teaching grade schoolers was exactly as awesome as it sounds. There was no false advertisement here.", "It’s funny because now I think it’s absolutely incredible. Not only was this written, choreographed, and rehearsed, but they also STILL decided to film it.\n\nI think it’s absolute magic. I wished I had this perspective when I was trying to be an actor. I had a hard time getting out of my head when the material was bad and lost roles to people that went in and committed themselves to scenes like this as if they were doing a Sam Shepard play. I have nothing but respect for everybody that worked on this film.", "I dmed you where you can watch it.", "Holly shit! I don't think I've ever seen a studio produced theatrically released film gross so little money before. Did each theatre in the country sell exactly one ticket? Or is there one small town in Iowa that is filled to the brim with diehard Teen Witch fans while the rest of the country abstained? It's not a great movie, but it's worth more than a $27k, Jesus.", "This is cinge AF and I am from the 80s and never saw this BS", "https://youtu.be/0qHlYp9TpB0", "The late 1980s was a strange time...", "I haven't been able to find how many screens it opened on. I'm fairly certain it was a wide release, but I suppose the studio could have limited the release.", "And you're not. But if you wanna hang with her, she'll give it a shot. Top That.", "IVE BEEN TRYING TO FIND THE NAME OF THIS MOVIE FOR YEARS!! THANK YOU!!", "Folding Ideas breakdown of Nostalgia Critic's review of the wall is so incomparably fantastic. I wish he posted more stuff more often because his stuff is so good.", "I get big [Hotrod](https://youtu.be/9yyra2G8H7A) vibes from this scene", "Never gonna be......the same again\n\nNeva gonna be", "89 was just a preview of 90s cringe.", "What. The. Fuck.", "Michael Ironside is first-rate. Read his AMA, he tells some amazing stories.", "It wasn't written by a teenager. It was written by an adult who thought they knew what being a teen in the 80's was like.", "Hence the genes comment.", "He’s one of my favorites. Total pro.", "Half sister but she’s doing fine for herself. I still prefer Polly. The way she lunges at Rhet stirs up feelings I cannot describe.", "I'm trying to move on with my life, and forgot about movies like this, I grew up with. And here's Reddit putting them on the front page. STOP THAT! 😆", "It was cool if you were an 8 year old in the 80s.", "How do you do, fellow kids?", "A porcupine's quills, a rattlesnake's tale and the soft flesh of Radar's shoulder. Chances are if you've seen these three things, you didn't live to tell about it.", "Exactly this. Generally they can get a clue, but oftentimes stuff like this gets released and is so bad that even the kids cringe (so hard they are still doing it 20+ years later).", "Brain cells exit ⛷️", "I couldn't finish. That was horrible.", "This is 1988 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l\\_Jeyif7bB4", "They had to play it in a theatre to make it eligible for an Academy Award.", "This was hard to watch, the cringe!!!", "I first saw this as a little kid and saw it multiple times over the years. Didn't think much either way. I'd say young teens probably thought it was pretty cool. Not like something they'd go out and imitate in public but at least an enjoyable movie.", "I just had a seizure and a little bit of brain is leaking out my ear.", "I had to look up a picture. I was expecting Mr Funky Bunch himself but nope, his brother Daawnie (gotta say it with a Boston accent). That's amazing.\n\nAnd my mind was blown a second time when I had to figure out where I knew him from (maybe just the Wahlburger shit) and according to IMDB he played the alien guy on the movie Dreamcatcher. This has been quite a day!", "Oh god now I must watch this", "I want to marry Lindsay Ellis", "Yes, it was. \nIt was the time peroid the movie was made available to the public. \nNo, it wasn't opening weekend. \nIt was when the movie was \"new\" and \"current\".", "yeah I unironically thought this was cool when I was like 10 lol.", "Same. The Lively’s lived a few houses down when I was a kid in Granada Hills (now North Hills), CA.", "Yo I got the new MC Hammer.", "There’s been a suprising amount of spinoff and sequels…all of them are terrible. I think there is a big budget reboot in the works for the past like 8 years though. Dave Bautista is gonna be the Kurgan which is perfect for me.", "Because I disagree with you? Nice attitude.", "Ya okay grandpa", "Top that", "Fun fact: The main funky dude is Robert Blake's son via his first wife (not the murdered one).", "Hey, there are lots of kids on here. Put this 80s hardcore gangsta rap on one of the age-restricted subs.", "I never saw the second one! She ages like fine wine man. Unreal.", "Binging thru 30 Rock on Netflix and hit this last night. I came here looking for this comment. :)", "Hehe. Sorry. My intention was not to brag. Just thought it was shocking that I could be an internet addict literally since the internet was invented (well, at least the WWW part), and somehow not know of this cringe clip and the accompanying memes. The shock only makes sense in the context of it being believable that I'm both old and \"hip\" to internet culture. The quickest way to that route seemed to be to point to my account. My post karma would be WAY higher if I was truly a badass. And I'd have done something original and noted on /r/highqualitygifs. Alas, I dare not fly so high.", "I'm glad YOU took it as it was meant.", "Maybe a bit of the Mandela effect for some?", "I think it’s safe to say that he was trying to be a regular actor. I’m glad he found a niche, but I doubt that was his original goal.", "It happens. Some of us can’t even find something showbiz adjacent.", "I have a Thanksgiving tradition of watching the Diggnation Thanksgiving outtakes every year - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOWc\\_rU9npM&t=111s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOWc_rU9npM&t=111s) though it it is getting harder to find each year. \n\nI've seen all TRS and Diggnation many times... Diggnation Live twice. When they ended it was like the end of any great TV show for me.", "This should help explain how fucking awesome Nirvana was when Smells Like Teen Spirit dropped. It was like, everything is Teen Witch and then one day that was just over.", "Recommend anything good? I followed Alex on a couple of others but now he is full time on Caffeine. I also like when Tim Ferris and Kevin get together for The Random Show, but those are few and far between.", "NEXT STORY!", "Yeah - great content and a lot of fun.", "It really took on a new life on cable. I was in high school from 91’-‘95 and at some point during that window, this movie went on solid rotation on the movie channels. It became this huge unifying in-joke for kids in my high school that spanned the student body regardless what social strata or clique you were in. It didn’t matter, if you were a nerd or stoner, if some jock or metal head heard you guys joking about the movie, they’d jump in the conversation. Everyone found its high level of cheese and wildly out of touch depiction of youth culture hysterical. \nI went off to college thinking everyone had seen this movie - I remember I had to find it at the local townie blockbuster and show it to my college friends because of the blank stares I got when I started rapping ‘Top That’ to them.", "Yeah, 91-95 I was in college and we were not watching Disney channel or anything that would have shown Disney reruns. Think more Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Natural Born Killers, NIN (maybe the occasional L.A. Law with the ladies in the dorm)... Grunge heaven.", "Ok firstly - being in high school those years when those bands broke; we were acutely aware of that music. You don’t need to jog my memory. \nAnd when I say ‘cable’ …I don’t mean Disney. I mean HBO/Showtime/Cinemax, etc.\nEven the early to mid 90’s was similar to the 80’s in that these movies channels had near 24 hour programming holes to fill. And major, current movies just out of theaters are more expensive to acquire the exclusive cable rights to. So most movie networks on cable back then had a small stable of ‘recent’ Hollywood films that rotated seasonally or monthly, and in addition to that… a slew of B movies and/or worse that were far cheaper to afford when it came to copyrights which filled out their programming schedules. \nIf you were a latch key kid between ‘85-‘95 and fortunate enough where your parents paid for cable, you…like me…saw an absolutely absurd amount of bad, low budget movies (often not age appropriate) that went straight to video by design or small release stuff that flopped where production companies then aggressively tried to recoup as much money as they could with the birth of home video and cable TV. \nTerrible movies made anywhere between the mid 70’s and the early 90’s were on heavy rotation on these movie channels, especially in the several hours directly after school got out. \nThis is where Teen Witch got its second life.", "Paid the college tuition.", "Except LoTR when the bike wasn’t allowed to pass by the wizard\n\nAlthough gandalf disappearing into the void shouting “TOP THAAaaaat” would have been immense", "My two favorites are \"We have concerns\" and \"the filmcast\". We have concerns is comedy/science and the filmcast is movie/tv reviews. The filmcast is the closest to TRS as far as vibe.\n\nIf video games are your thing \"DLC\" is great\n\nIf your into dungeons and dragons people love \"the dungeon run\" ( I have trouble watching D&D because I just want to play and get annoyed when characters don't do what I would do which is totally on me not the show)\n\nAnd if your into sports he does the \"fan controlled football show\"", "No, but she was the older daughter in [Wildcats](https://i.imgur.com/t8jKU7W.jpg)" ]	341	videos	In honor of Halloween coming up. Teen Witch - Top That
https://youtu.be/U5XYBFzqWy0	/r/videos/comments/qh7n3t/dubai_travel_ad_about_attempted_abduction_slavery/	[ "Well that’s a hot take on the video, now isn’t it.", "Wow, that is a very tone deaf ad.", "this seems like a very expensive and stressful vacation.", "I dated someone from Dubai and she shared an anecdote about how her housekeeper \"ran away\" one day \n\n\nI'm like.... Ran away? What do you mean, like she escaped? From what? \n\n\nHow is this so casual?", "is this some kind of dubai travel commercial made as a movie?" ]	5	videos	Dubai travel ad about attempted abduction, slavery is very real here and it shouldn't be an advertisement selling point
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1z-hdqEewI	/r/videos/comments/qh7slc/man_overboard_rescue/	[ "[seems legit to me?](https://www.distractify.com/p/who-went-overboard-deadliest-catch)\n\nDoes staged shit happen in reality TV? I'm sure it does, but putting someone in the water seems a bit much. I know I'd say no way.", "I think this happened but because they have rules and training filming stopped for the rescue, then they filmed the dude after the rescue, then they did a re-enactment of the rescue. If the rescued dude was acting when he was thanking the dudes for literally saving his life, especially the captain as it seems to be sinking on for him, then he is the best actor because his emotions looked real", "I remember being in dutch harbor and watching when one of the deadliest catch boats went out into the middle of the harbor and a helicopter came in and did a few circles around it then the boat reparked.", "Fair fucking play. I hope that some of that was reenactment. I doubt all of it was. When an mob happens even in good weather its still a 80 percent chance someone dies.", "I guess the \"Stay Calm\" went out the fucken window. \n\"MAN OVER GHOEARD MAN OVER BREAOD, GET THE RING.\"", "They did set their cameras down - The stationary cameras they have set up that film non-stop filmed the rescue. Adrenaline can clear your mind to an absurd level. This guy isn't acting.\n\nAlso, there's no way they'd risk re-enacting this.", ">Also, there's no way they'd risk re-enacting this.\n\nI didn't think I'd actually have to specify they wouldn't actually put a man in the water for the re-enactment, but that's what I get for doubting Reddit.", "That's not what I was referring to. I was simply referring to having him on deck as if they had just pulled him over the bow.", "I know may of the crew filming on this show, what you get is what you get. they told me stories about what they saw and how the show showed everything because it is a dangerous job for everyone involved. \n\none camera guy I know literally got swept across the deck and almost went over board but he caught himself in the last moment. He showed me the deck camera footage." ]	10	videos	Man Overboard Rescue
https://youtu.be/6LalpPLuzo4	/r/videos/comments/qh7utt/every_shitty_video_essay_ever/	[ "What is a video essay? Is that a real thing?", "A video essay is a piece of video content that, much like a written essay, advances an argument. Video essays take advantage of the structure and language of film to advance their arguments.\n\nMore details here: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_essay> \n\n\n\nThis comment was left automatically (by a bot). If I don't get this right, don't get mad at me, I'm still learning!\n\n[^(opt out)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/ozztfy/post_for_opting_out/) ^(\|) [^(should I die?)](https://reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/qh0tf8/should_i_diestop_working/) ^(\|) [^(delete)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/q79g2t/delete_feature_added/) ^(\|) [^(report/suggest)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot) ^(\|) [^(GitHub)](https://github.com/TheBugYouCantFix/wiki-reddit-bot)", "[To know that, we will have to discuss some basics of thermodynamics.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lwng9jPnfU)", "[and here's every intro](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WyKYB4sg2Q&list=LL&index=1)", "Forgot the bit where the film video essay channel just restates the entire plot without actually giving any commentary on the film.", "Is... is that an actual video essay? Like, not a parody of a video essay?", "How else are they gonna make the video over 2 hours long so they can add even more ads", "\\*coughNerdwritercough\\*" ]	8	videos	Every Shitty Video Essay Ever
https://youtu.be/Qa5rWpNslZc	/r/videos/comments/qh90sm/ghost_hunters_with_farts_is_funny/	[ "Gonna scare the ghosts away", "Video confirms that a guys sense of humor is fully developed by age seven", "Halloween is right around the corner, gotta be proactive", "I like to think of it as \"easy to please\" and also hilarious", "Ghosthunters by itself is already funny. Adults running around in abandoned houses with some bs electronic devices and flashlights expecting to find an actual ghost is hilarious", "Yeah. The dude that was in the original Ghosthunters was caught pulling a string running up his sleeve and hooked to the back of his coat in order for it to appear that a ghost was tugging on him. What a joke.", "I laughed several times so either I dont have a sense of humor or you are a prude", "It would be a lot funnier if the farts sounded far away, quieter or muffled in some way to blend with the setting", "A fellow patron of the farts! I’ll give the mixing more love in future passes", "May be he is a believer", "Reminds me of the [Hugh Laurie SNL sketch](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whl7QMTlHm8).", "Farts will always be funny", "Lol. A prude. A prude is seeing a dick and getting embarrassed or something, this was just something my 5 year old niece would like, and probably make. Shite.", "I feel seen", "Yo this is hilarious 🤣", "Thank you!", "My wife and I just marathoned all 3, this is fucking gold. I was cry laughing.", "That makes me incredibly happy!! Thank you!!", "Thank you for making them!", "The woman listening to the fart while the subtitle said <unintelligible> had me laughing hard.", "I appreciate your attention to the details! The caption text was the deciding factor for me when picking clips haha", "Absolutely. This reminds me of this work of art., if I may, https://youtu.be/ZVIMV2rvCwc", "Crying laughing", "I’m glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!", "I imagine trying to find ghosts makes you think random creaks in the house or sounds outside = ghost. Couple that with the alleged encounters in that house and you are fixated on seeing or hearing those certain ghosts. The whole thing is just paranoia dialed up to 11 but for ghosts instead of people.", "I like the [Matrix](https://youtu.be/zcrPP-HPPeo) one...Classic", "Farts are funny. You can't change my mind", "I’m fairly certain that not finding farts funny is used in sociopath diagnosis", "Hank hill: mother of god its all fart noises", "I am dying!!!! Can't wait to show to my dad! Previous two are gold as well!!", "Thank you so much!! Hope your dad gets a laugh or two!", "Go by the age-old saying, \"nearly silent, but deadly.\"", "Kudos on the fart variety lol", "Haha, thank you!", "There was a variant of this posted in 2006 and it's still my favorite.\n\n[Most ~~Haunted~~ Farted](https://youtu.be/bT8Su44TXy8)\n\n\"Where 7 million people in 1803 by farting.\"\n\n\"Smells like.... stale meat.\"", "One word: [Fartzenegger](https://youtu.be/5J3Jw2xdszQ)", "This made my day.", "[Look me in the eye and tell me farts aren't funny](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgE4X2vm-dY)", "haha this is the episode i was thinking of!", "I was also waiting for one of them to go ‘do you smell that’ because I swear I’ve seen clips where they smell weird things in the houses. Lol", "I lost it at the headphones.", "Oh neat! Link?", "“Listen! Do you smell something?”", "Had me legit out of breath for the past 15 minutes, bra-fucking-vo on that beautiful series 😂", "Either way, you're onto a winner with this format. I look forward to advanced netherworldly fart mixing in the next episode.", "I'm howling at this.", "\"You don't have to be smart to laugh at fart jokes but you have to be stupid not to...\"", "I loved this show as a kid until I googled all their equipment and realized everything was unverifiable bullshit lol.", "we call those whisper farts", "This is such a hilarious idea. I cracked up at \"the reveal\" in part 2", "This made my night!! I haven’t laughed this hard in a while!", "You need to get on this, ASAP.", "also the \"was that your stomach?\" one was perfect", "It's all about the timing.", "I would be invested in this show if the ghosts were actual farts instead.", "Ok then you're a prune!", "I almost broke a rib laughing...so good, thank you.", "\"What is this strange liquid coming from my pants?! It's leaking on the floor now!\"", "I can't believe you didn't call it a work of fart.", "Criiinge.", "I haven't watched The Farting Preacher in years (the original and best) but you've inspired me. The new generation takes the mantle.", "forgot about this. \"i only came in it twice\" is a hilarious line. love how this guy always strikes me as tucker carlson in the right light", "In the new Ghost Adventures special they caught a \"ghost\" giving some psychic guy head on their XLS camera.\n\nProbably fake but was pretty funny", "Honestly more realistic with farts than “ghost and spirits” \nBeer and wing night farts", "Definitely need more subtleness. This is just jokingly horrible and not even funny. A little poot here and there would've been 10 times more appealing.", "This is stupid and I can't stop laughing at it.", "Fellow patron of the farts! 🤣", "[South Park made fun of Ghost Hunters](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng-GEzhFtFA) first.\n\nAnd [someone else did the fart bit before that.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-JjaAh0NeU)", "Skip to about 1:58 to see the first fake tug, but if you look at the whole video, you can see he's getting his apparatus ready:\n\n&#x200B;\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlM-Uy8ODYQ", "Yeah the timing is great, but it definitely needs another sound design pass.", "Zack \"colostomy\" Bag-gins", "Definitely needs echo.\n\nAlso one or two more \"bromp\"s wouldn't go amiss IMO.", "Buzzfeed unsolved completely ruined ghost shows for me, now I hear Shane Madej making a snarky comment at everything they say", "This video is the exact reason why to this day I Kung-fu fart when I have one in the chamber.", "are you taking the piss?", "Make sure to use this next time\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN1SGS7N02U", "Great taste, awful execution.", "How much poop did you get in your underwear to record that?", "Yep. Good idea, bad execution.", "But did you like it?", "So.. 'Fart Hunters' then?", "More believable than the actual show", "I'm convinced it was the first thing ever laughed about. That or someone falling down. My favorite is to be like, \"Do you smell that?\" so they take a huge whiff. 😂😂", "\"That's the opening of the windows of heaven!\"\n\n\"I smell heaven's bakery cooking up something good for you, sister.\"\n\nI haven't seen this one yet. Pure gold.", "Funny how in the history of Ghostdom not one, especially a scientist, has gone up to the science department of a major university and say, \"boo! I exist! Study me!\"\n\nNope. They can move, they can vocalize, sometimes talk! And especially with all of these home security cameras blasting 4k 120hz whatever and we still have jack shit.", "ShhHhh! Im getting EMF readings over here, by the entertainment center!", "GHOST POOPERS", "Cause making fun of Ghost Hunters is so original and exclusive. Also, fart jokes.", "\"Its me..ya boi\"", "I quite enjoy this more ridiculous version", "Future passes... of the gases?", "Add me on FartBook.", "throw in some wilhelm screams, gunshots, sex, crackhead singing etc", "You are doing God's work", "The good Ol’ show fart hunters.", "TFW the comments are funnier than the content.", "Good a spot as any to drop a link to [This Is Us Farting](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxKGum6Fpha5wV0iL3f0umA)", "You're making more?!", "Too loud and fake sounding, a great idea tho\n\nIf you want some real ones, including my personal favourite - the tazer, I can send you them over WhatsApp, lol yes I record my farts, yes it's funny.", "I laughed ENTIRELY too hard at this. When they played the audio for the customer... I knew what to expect, but for whatever reason it got me right in my fucking kidneys.", "Hey I'm 34 and just paid $15 for a fart machine with a remote control. It's got good range too! I get my 10 year old son with it. We will piss ourselves laughing over a fart and get stared at like we're idiots. You either get farts or you don't.", "Alexa, you dirty bitch!", ">was caught\n\nWdym \"was caught\" like literally everything on this show isn't fake lmao. Did you really need to debunk how he pulled his own coat?", "OK I laughed, but [maybe less subtle next time](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNzdihpEW6g)", "The fart at the end: \"Don't walk away, bring it in\"", "You'd think ancient ruins would be teeming with ghosts.\n\nLike someone goes to Pompeii and a ghost goes:\n\n\"BOO! I AM SPOOKTACUS!\"", "Amen! Whoo!", "😂I was gonna try to be punny and call the ghost scientist a, \"dientist\" but I didn't deem it worthy.", "As a kid, my dad would was pretty liberal and let me play some rated M games, watch simpsons and other mature shows, but when it came to Ghost Hunters he straight up lost it. I knew the show was dumb but I still liked to watch it for fun, but the second my dad saw me watching it, he told me stop because it was but of idiots pretending and ghosts aren't real.", "Holy fuck. I'm dying over here. How the hell have I not seen that before today?! I haven't laughed that hard in months!", "Almost ghostly, if you will", "Gold", "Nevermind his own, this motherfucker soiled a 10 foot radius", "This sounds a LOT like Lorde’s new album", "I respectfully disagree. I enjoyed exactly what you did.", "I know I got some of his poop in my underwear!!", "Vic and Bob did a great job of this https://youtu.be/T369wV-mRAg", "It's amazing how many people don't realize it is a pure money grab.\n\nJust like \"Finding Bigfoot\".. 9 seasons, and still not a single piece of evidence.", "> in future passes\n\nfuture passes of gas", "Fucking awesome. Loved it.", "ghastly", "My dad had a Christmas CD of 99 tracks of fart sounds. I think it was called Pull my Finger or something idk haha\n\nEdit: found the CD on eBay. It had nothing to do with Christmas. Maybe he just likes to play it during Christmas so that’s how my brain remembered it lol", "I needed this today 😂", "Bullshit. Doctors Venkman, Spengler, and Stantz are leading experts in the field working out of Columbia University and they encounter ghosts all the time.", "I'm going to drop this in here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whl7QMTlHm8&list=PLmfbigi6fYsE0yfjQNi4VKx3lUG1Bp1UN](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whl7QMTlHm8&list=PLmfbigi6fYsE0yfjQNi4VKx3lUG1Bp1UN)", "I was not familiar with Finding Bigfoot until my FIL had their marathon on TV over Christmas. I can’t decide if those people are the dumbest or the smartest people on television to keep that show going for so long. \n\nI was shocked at the sheer volume of episodes that contained absolutely nothing.", "Season after season of hunting for ghost and the only thing they find is a sloppy wet one.", "OMG. That was funny as hell.", "Somebody spent a ton of time make that \"gotcha\" video the other guy linked... That's kind of embarrassing in itself... Like who even cares how or what they do lol. Just like you said, it's all so BS.\n\nKind of sad to know that there must be people out there who watch it given it's produced and aired...", "Sounds like a holiday classic!", "As a side note, you know that Ghosts do not exists because otherwise there would be millions of ghosts of slaves everywhere as the most tormented of souls.", "plus reverb", "I would also love if this was a whole episode. I always hated how dumb these shows were, but if you were to make an entire episode where the suspense builds and builds, just to discover that farts haunt the house, I would totally watch the whole show!", "And they get like nine year-old kids who tell them \"I barely saw it at great distance in near-twilight in heavy forest cover\" and are completely convinced he saw a Sasquatch.", "Farts are never funny", "The first Paranormal Gastivity was ok but the second is a master piece IMO and the third, while not as great is definitely a worthy follow up. Can't wait for the forth one!", "A fan of the second release! You’re a rare breed haha. I had a blast making that one – I tried to make the farts cleverly fit into the context of what was happening in the show, rather than searching for good reactions, if that makes sense!", "Thank you for taking the time to watch my nonsense hobby! I appreciate it! I’m very happy you enjoyed them and to have helped lift your day! Keep that good feeling!!", "farts are never not funny", "Also, when they bro-hugged, you should have definitely made it come out harder, or go up an octave. I was waiting for that. Make him fart harder every time they pat his back. \n\nWhen he pointed off to the other room, though, I fucking lost it. \n\nMaybe this is just the 12 year old inside me speaking, but you've got potential gold here. I think this is probably funnier than [the farting preacher](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVIMV2rvCwc).", "Absolutely make sense, that's why I like it. Keep it up dude, you are killing it!", "This is a reality show I could watch.", "I had the same thought. NINE seasons. In some ways, that is incredibly impressive.", "The most convincing evidence this show ever had! (I did like the show sometimes, other times it was a hot mess of bad acting and bad evidence).", "[My favorite haunted farts!](https://youtu.be/bT8Su44TXy8)", "Gold Jerry! Gold!", "Another beauty", "Not to mention that one of the women that were on the show went on a podcast later on to say that most of it was faked.", "The eyebrow raise for me.", "Yea like a little reverb and such on some would be hilarious. Like they're coming from downstairs and kind of echoing upstairs.", "\"How old are you?\"\n\n[\"I don't know. We lost track of time in the bunker.\"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzcSJ1setd0)", "Is this a meme or are you serious?\n\nEdit: No I didn’t know that those are the names of the ghostbusters", "Of course I'm serious. [They even made the news because of it.](http://grouchoreviews.com/content/films/2296/1.jpg)", "I vote dumb.\n\nAny smart person would be so ashamed of their actions it wouldn't go beyond season 3.", "Ghost farts should have more reverb, since they're coming from a spiritual realm. They should also be pitched down, since time moves more slowly in that realm. I'd also add a bit of tremolo, to account for the aether acting as a medium for transmission.\n\nThe real question: would it be picked up by a handheld odor detector?", "Reminds me of the farting preacher", "This is literally me while playing Phasmophobia in my VR room. The whole room smells of fart", "Who watches these shows!?", "They also don't sound like real farts, more like someone blowing air into their arm.", "This kind of thing is the reason why I'll never be a proper grown up. Just too funny.", "A proper grown up respects the hilarity of farts. Its reach is borderless. Embrace your flatulation infatuation!", "Also more differentiation between the left and right channels depending upon which direction it’s coming from", "Who lives on planet Earth and doesn't know who the Ghostbusters are?", "Please make more of these!", "Dude, can you do Supernatural farts", "Oh that’s what that is. Never seen any of those movies", "A flatulance connossieur if you will", "an infatuation with flatulation", "This made me laugh as much as the videos did.", "\"UNINTELLIGIBLE\" lmao", "I LOVE fart jokes! My wife does not (or farts, which are my super power).", "You want to know my secret? There is always poo in my underwear", "This was really funny but the effects were way too exaggerated", "You mean… beyond episode 3?", "Oh heavens to betsy, that was beautiful.", "Like beauty, fart is in the brown eye of the beholder.", "Say that 5 times real fast", "Even without the fart noises it looked like he definitely made a stomach noise and tried to pass it off as ghosts lol. Didn't wanna admit it to the lady he was with.", "That is actually an interesting thought. Places boast about tormented souls that never found their love or some bullshit yet people literally lived as property for their entire lives and watched their families get raped and murdered.", "these are better than my stupid bored adhd clips I figure they're worth a link since y'all got the taste already\n\n[Burp Russel in Le Terrible Movie](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOzaEutw-Qw)\n\n[Mortal Komblyat](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfDkZBntqgs)\n\n[The Roomp w/ T. Wideass](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Riy70J96vn8)\n\n... don't even ask", "I understood that reference.", "This is the cabbage fart of funny videos, it remains forever", "Wish I could believe in ghosts and the Boogeyman and bigfoot and other stuff....", "Anyone got a link to this podcast episode by any chance?", "Wonder what the original sounds were", "These are real farts. They caught it on camera.", "[We finally cracked the case, guys!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAqkKbwvD1U)", "What about eggs?", "You might find it on YouTube. I believe it featured Kris Williams. I did a brief search for it and also sent a message to Brian Harnois to see if he remembers, but, I dont hold my breath waiting for a response from him anymore.", "\"There's something... Warm and sticky materializing in my pants!\"\n\n\"Oooh! It smells!\"", "Add some reverb for sure. This had me cracking up.", "I am crying laughing at the idea that you fondly remember a fart sounds cd because it was played during Christmas time.", "I love how it doesn't even need to be edited well. Classic", "omg my sides! im in stitches. im a grown ass man but nothing is funnier to me then fart humour.", "You made the show actually watchable now", "This is a masterpiece 😂", "Tis be a goodie" ]	199	videos	Ghost Hunters with farts is funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3vjVPiXq5g	/r/videos/comments/qh915s/ive_finally_achieved_a_long_dream_of_mine_and/	[ "Very nice:)", "Great cam. What work went into getting this setup?\n\nWhat hardware and software did you use?", "Hikvision camera, OBS (with websocket control and some gstreamer magic), Nimble Streamer for routing.", "Thanks for the reply! Again very nice cam", "Is this on Treasure Island?", "Yup! Mersea restaurant was kind to host my installation.", "This is gorgeous. Although I'm ashamed to admit I was expecting a livestream of people shitting on the sidewalk near a homeless encampment.", "Sunset in 8 mins! My first SF sunset.\n\nI like all the added info, and also temp in Celsius!", "I like that you did this thanks!", "Cool", "Speed Humps Ahead? Do people on the west coast call them speed humps and not speed bumps?", "Mind sharing the model of the camera?\n\nI've been planning to do something like this myself, but the problem is always trying to get a camera that isn't shit and works well in daylight and nighttime.", "They're called Sleeping Policemen in some parts of the UK.", "Judder Bars in NZ", "You should absolutely post this on r/SanFrancisco! I can see my apartment right now haha", "What a beautiful city.", "Love it bro so awesome", "Any 4mp+ Hikvision camera makes this easily achievable with lots of forum/youtube support. \n\nhttps://us.hikvision.com/en/products/cameras/network-camera/performance-series\n\nYou'll just want to take a look at what lens you want and resolution depending on the distance and what you're trying to frame.\n\nEdit: Just saw this is a PTZ on a tour.\n\nhttps://us.hikvision.com/en/products/cameras/network-ptz-camera/value-series", "That is really cool. As a former San Franciscan who sadly had to relocate, I'm really enjoying the view.", "Congrats on this project, you picked a great spot.\n\nYou may be interested in reports about Hikvision concerning the Uyghurs in China and spying outside of China. Check your favorite news provider.", "I was in that tower (Coit Tower?) when I was 9, in 1983. I am from Vancouver Island BC.", "Los Angeles does, my dad couldn’t believe it thought it was a joke.", "Nice job. Just curious, what would explain the delay on YT compared to Twitch?", "This is excellent", "Oh hey that's the cameras that hang on a worksite near my house", "We call them speed bumps. I have seen one “speed hump” sign in, it was inside my old condo complex. My wife and I always obeyed the sign whenever we saw it…giggity", "Sunrise in 3 mins booooiiiii\n\npity it's so foggy :(", "How much is rent on the 1 sqft plot this camera occupies? lol", "I can smell the pee pee and poo poo from here. Gorgeous. Sad what's happened to this great city, used to love living there in college.", "check out [coastalcameranetwork.com](https://coastalcameranetwork.com), they offer solutions as low as $14.99 for webcam hosting and delivery w pro web player, so tat you can monetize on your own away from youtube. hosting a webcam on youtube is great, except they own everything." ]	30	videos	I've finally achieved a long dream of mine and installed a live webcam in San Francisco!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6edFEQv5pu8&feature=youtu.be	/r/videos/comments/qhagy9/turkey_and_dressing_is_more_than_a_thanksgiving/	[ "First time I've heard stuffing called dressing. The more you know", "Why did i just watch this", "GO BEARS." ]	3	videos	Turkey and Dressing is more than a Thanksgiving and Christmas treat.
https://youtu.be/ZYpoza1W3Fc	/r/videos/comments/qhatzy/mecha_fighters_are_the_best/	[ "Would love it if there was a real reason for them to become reality", "Who knows. Maybe in the future, it will be as popular as cars.", "Only in Japan", "I can see the police getting machines to help them law enforcement and for urban pacification ;P" ]	4	videos	Mecha fighters are the best!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey5JYMbI64I	/r/videos/comments/qhbhph/joe_pera_makes_a_stool_for_our_cabin_townsends/	[ "Great Channel 👍", "This is one collaboration I did not know I needed but it is wholesome. :>", "Is this real? It's hilarious, I love it", "pumped for season three", "Unfortunately Joe Pera is a character, it took some digging a few years ago, but maybe it's more known now. His adult swim stuff is pretty amazing", "Joe Pera is a fucking treasure. I went to college in Marquette, where his show is set in, and it capture the sleepy, optimistic, remote beauty that is that town. It's really the best up there, hopefully Joe encourages some people to check it out.", "Oh cool I love the Townsends. People are mentioning colabs, who is Joe Pera?", "I knew it was too good to be true", "Joe Pera Talks With You Season 3 on Adult Swim November 7th!", "Wtf, Pera x Townsends? This is wonderful!", "He's a comedian most famous for his work with adult swim, [Joe Pera talks you to sleep](https://youtu.be/trfHP5LHVNY) being probably his most well known piece.", "To be clear, he is not intellectually disabled in any way. The slow, methodical way he acts is a deliberate character that he doesn't ever break in public.", "Oh my God my mind is blown.", "I haven't watched the video yet but thanks for the info.\n\nSomeone here told me to watch [this](https://youtu.be/trfHP5LHVNY) and it's amazing so I'm well on board", "Joe Pera is a comedian in character BTW, incase anyone is confused.", "Wholesome ™", "YES. So excited. I love Joe Pera.", "I dont really care about making stools, or really, most of the informative aspects of this video.. But why did I just watch the whole 15 minutes? Like the part of my brain that checks the clock fell asleep. (Pun intended, just found out about Joe's work.)", "what a wild crossover", "His series Joe Pera Talks with you is probably my favorite thing to come out in the last few years. It's like wholesome anti-humor and there's nothing else I've ever seen like it.", "I discovered Joe Pera through “Wet Dog Smell” - an episode of the Story Must Be Told. If you like weird fiction and Joe Pera y’all should definitely give it a listen", "Been watching Townsends for years even though I don't like to cook. Glad they've expanded into other things. That said, I never expected a celebrity collaboration. At some point, without my noticing, this channel has exploded.", "This makes so much sense for a collab. Also Joe Pera just makes shit like wholesome and nice. I love the effect his shows have on me. Gonna have to visit michigan", "simple Jack joins Weezer", "Joe Pera!\n\nI’m still not exactly sure why (if?) I really like his stuff, but I’m always glad to see he’s still active.", "He's an adult swim regular who started off as an aside joke and people ended up loving so much they just kept having him make things.", "I love this dudes work. Being a Hoosier, he’s one of the few things I’m proud to have come out of Indiana.", "So good to see Joe again!", "I always like to talk about joe pera, nathan for you, and how to with john wilson in the same breath. Obviously nathan and how to are directly comparable because they're both produced by nathan fielder and michael koman, but joe pera seems to be in the same conversation, even though there isn't an obvious comparison to make.", "The prefect bite gets me every time.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktVIQZ7tiag&ab\\_channel=AdultSwim", "Why did I read this in Joe Pera’s voice lol", "The perfect crossover.", "Connor O'Malley deserves more respek", "Joe Pera got me through lockdown, no lie. Agree that he is a treasure.", "\"I need a win...\"\n\nThat's the brilliance behind Joe Pere Talks With You. The people he interacts with are fully formed characters. They already have history and backstories. And they are all generally relatable. We all have a neighbor or a coworker or a family friend like someone on this show.", "I just watched a Joe Pera clip for the first time and How To with John Wilson was the firs thing I thought of.\n\nNew seasons of both How To and Joe Pera next month, btw.", "How old is Joe? Does anyone know? He looks like he's in his early 30's... then he also looks like he's in his 50's. He talks and acts like a Minnesota octogenarian with 8 kids and 34 grandkids.\n\nHe's like a slower (as in takes life slowly, not mentally) Nick Offerman. Like a cross between Mr Rogers and Ron Swanson.\n\nHe's exactly the kind of guy I'd love to have as a neighbor.", "Holy shit lol I did not expect Townsends + Joe Pera.", "Didn't know the new season of how to was dropping!! This fall is amazing for new content: Bobs Burgers, The Great North, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Awkwafina is Nora from Queens", "It's funny to see you describe them as \"expanding\" - I know it's just their Yt channel, but the whole Townsends thing started with Jas Townsend and son. Grandpa (?) opened up a \"suttlery\" - a shop for historical reenactors. They started with just a few things but then it grew into basically the REI and walmart of 1700's and early 1800s gear. Clothes, cookware, camp ware, etc. \n\nSeeing them on Yt was wild.", "The Townsends channel is a godsend. Their food videos are just amazing. Such a nice watch.", "Really", "“wilderness”", "So fucking chill and beautiful.", "This is not the crossover I expected, but I am extremely grateful for it.", "He must be slightly, almost happy that the Bills are playing well.", "\"retardness\" oh the irony", "33", "Or 66?", "Just wait until the pumpkin patches to open up.", "Marquette feels like any hometown many Americans are familiar with. It reminds me of the areas my grandparents lived in.\n\nI really can’t put my finger on it, what Joe does exactly, but it’s so good. I know it’s rooted in comedy but his performance is so convincing, you forget he’s in character. It’s disarming, amusing, and the joy he takes in mundane things is funny but charming. He’s not funny in that laugh-out-loud kinda way but in a way where you smile a bit and kinda feel a sense of friendship with Joe.", "honk if you're horny", "\"If you got scrolls on your chairs, you got too much money.\"\n\nLOL.", "who else is doing talk shows in a lake?!?!", "I have respect for anyone who makes dragonball jokes like Joe Pera.", "Townsends and Joe Pera collab? All is right in the world, the sun can explode now.", "More Joe Pera talking, less calling a compass a \"divider\"", "dude what the hell??? never expected this in a 100 years", "Go Wildcats", "I've seen Joe's stuff before on AS, is his mannerisms an act, or is that really him? I love his stuff btw.", "k", "townsends never does collabs, this took me way by surprise. it was great.", "their cabin building series has been amazing, built a fairly well sized structure entirely with hand tools. its a wonderful channel.", "kinda sorta. his real personality is still pretty slow paced. he just exaggerates it a little", "honestly, joe's real personality isnt that far off from this. he just exaggerates it a little for stuff. but if you think he is 100% playing a character and hes totally different off camera, from what ive seen, hes like 10% playing a character. i listened to a long interview with him out of character the other day and he's still a slow paced dude who seems to enjoy simple stuff.", " what dragonball joke did he make?", "he just seems to slightly exaggerate his normal personality. he makes himself seem like an 80yr old when in reality he seems more like a 70yr old", "theres nothing mean spirited about joe", "binge his tv show, its incredible" ]	71	videos	Joe Pera Makes a Stool for Our Cabin - Townsends Wilderness Homestead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7Vdk7s632k	/r/videos/comments/qhbnox/taking_a_halloween_costume_too_far_key_peele/	[ "[MIRROR](https://streamable.com/0n57v8)", "The only comment I wanted", "His wig needed to burst into flames when he screams at the sky towards the end.", "Jesus juice.", "You fucking champion.", "These guys suck.", "What is this, a Pepsi commercial?" ]	7	videos	Taking a Halloween Costume Too Far - Key & Peele
https://youtu.be/D_nrld0CudE	/r/videos/comments/qhbtob/hey_reddit_i_went_to_a_rural_town_with_a_city/	[ "Good on you to try to get opinions. Definitely need to lower the gain on that mic for sure though, that was a lot of pops and crackles for my ears. Feel bad for the pro choice people there kind of out numbered. I would proooobably ditch the mantis suit. Initially it breaks the ice, but it also is less approachable for many since it makes it seem more like comedy than a legitimate interview. Keep on doing what you enjoy though!", "Thanks!", "I liked this video. I liked the mantis suit but i'd have to agree on ditching it and keep it fairly professional. You have a good enough personality and content to not need the gimmick. But, I am torn because it is a really nice mantis suit.\n\nI live in the city and am pro abortion but it's interesting to see small towns and how they feel about this stuff. Where I live, abortion is legal and very useful. It's also part of our health care services and religion has no say over other people's health. Your rights end where mine begin.\n\nSmall towns tend to still be fairly mono-community centric so there's a lot more church influence where media and outsiders isn't as dominant. I think the best approach is keeping it civil but point out that it's not just about them. Americans don't even have universal health care. Why should their religious values supersede someone else's personal values?", "I’m really glad someone from the city can see how different rural areas are.", "My city used to have a small town feel to it but it's changed a lot over the last few decades and it's lost that 'charm' but to be honest, I don't miss this type of stuff with the religion and conception. Nice people though if you can get past a couple topics.", "Aside from the gain on the mic, this was great. This video had my full attention the whole time. It gave off some All Gas No Brakes vibes, and I love that stuff. I personally think if you keep at it, the mantis suit wont matter if it stays or goes. Once you get experience in I think you'd be able to control the flow of a conversation, quick introduction, explain the mantis suit, then go on to the topic you want them to talk about. I'm interested in seeing where you go though!", "Thanks!", "Mantis suit approved!" ]	8	videos	Hey Reddit, I went to a rural town with a city council deciding whether to ban abortion in city limits. I interviewed both sides (unbiasedly) on how they felt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEZVwQptvWw	/r/videos/comments/qhbzdb/william_shatner_crashes_george_lucas_party/	[ "That was fucking awesome. Thanks!", "star WARS?\n\nlol. that's great.", "Love the fact that you could hear Harrison belly laughing over every one else.", "I don't think the delivery could've been any better.", "How have I never seen that before? Brilliant!", "Now it needs a Stewie version…", "I just realized his last name has the word, “SHAT” in it 🤯", "Shatner was about 75 in that clip. He's 90 now and looks the exact same.", "I don't think I've ever seen Harrison Ford looking so genuine amused and entertained at anything involved with Hollywood and Star Wars - at least, not since about 1980.", "Hard not to like this", "Shatner looks incredible for 90, and seems very lucid still. If only everyone aged that gracefully.", "Was going to say the same. He's always been an anxious type when it comes to interviews and PR appearances, so it was nice to seem him genuinely enjoying himself in this clip.", "Call him what you will, the dude's an entertainer, through and through.", "He just goes back into the nexus every time he's not on screen", "William Shatner is a genius when it comes to comedic timing. Damn good actor too.", "He’s historically quite subdued and quiet around PR and has always disliked press events.\n\nThat being said [this](https://youtu.be/bAb8KIhgVAI) has always been one of my favourite interviews with him. He starts off quiet and cautious as usual but by the end is having such a good time he doesn’t want it to end!", "Awesome", "Did you see him in space? He may look the same but he seems less energetic.", "Shatner?! I hardly knew her!", "\"You know I don't drink.\"\n\nLove this interview!", "I too remember being 12.", "That was incredible! Thanks for sharing", "Fucking champ at comedic timing. It's hard to define Shat.", "Why did that storm trooper pick him up by his crotch?", "George Lucas reminds me of a golden retriever when he just stands there waiting for the next thing to happen.", "There are people who don't age, they took a potion and it stopped the clock for them. Keanu Reeves, Patrick Stewart, Will Smith. They took the potion when they were young, Shatner took it when he was 75.", "Watch \"Better Late than Never\", it's probably the last good tv he made and you see him in his truest element. Plus Henry Winkler messes with him constantly.", "She's great.", "Incoming message from The Big Giant Head!", "When you know what the link is going to be, but you still click it.", "You can call him Mr. Shatner", "Gravitational pull?", "Mr Shatner is a master troll 😂😂", "Do you smell something burning?", "This absolutely made my day", "Shatner is 13 years older than George. He always looks the same age or younger than everyone around him.", "Proof that William Shatner is a national treasure.", "I still feel bad for him when he was trying to explain to Bezos what that trip meant to him and Bezos was everywhere but in the conversation", "unlike Denny Crane he didn't get the Mad Cow", "My heart skipped a beat when I read the first three words of the title...", "Ford was cracking up so hard.", "You know it’s good when he’s getting laughs out of Harrison Ford lol", "I looked out the window and there was, something on the wing of the plane!\"", "He's got a new spoken word album out this month and it's ridiculous.", "I knew what it was before I clicked- fantastic watch", "I remember watching this on tv with my family when it aired and having a blast", "We heard you the first time ;)", "If by “crashes” you mean “staged, scripted, and elaborately laid out with cutaways to George, Chewy; as well as Storm Troopers arriving on cue” … then sure, I guess that’s crashing.", "I think American actors tend to loosen up in foreign interviews. I don’t know if it’s because they often don’t fit the same “step and repeat” BTS format that so many interviews go. Or maybe it’s because the actors know that only a tiny percentage of American audiences will ever see these interviews. So they know they can open up. Graham Norton, especially, seems to do a great job of extracting these moments from American actors.", "Alcohol helps!", "You can tell his attendance was not expected by the audience hence the term “crashing” being used loosely here.", " Man I loved that show, great to watch with your S/O. All the guys on that show were awesome, Terry Bradshaw and Shatner getting mad at each other was top tier TV.", "Nice", "well he does know to travel through the time-space continuum", "Man between this and Carrie Fisher's speech at the same event this room had to have been magical that night.", "They got their trekker captain to sing his little song. wow kirk deserves better.", "It’s… hard. To. deFINE shat Ohhhh brother Let me tell you", "Yep, a Canadian national treasure. ;)", "The clip you saw ended too soon. Bezos stopped his PR crowd after the photos to listen to Shatner tell his story.\n\nThe only issue was the fact they were spraying an alcoholic with Champagne.", "I did see the clip. And I also saw how dejected almost embarrassed Shatner looked when he tried to first speak with him.", "The Face\n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/ZBw1msb.png", "He killed his wife", "Thanks for posting this, I haven't seen it in a while.. Always makes me smile", "Botox is a fickle mistress, but occasionally she is kind.", "I always forget he’s Canadian. I guess it makes up for Justin Bieber.", "So... first off, you've got a sassy, big, black British lady with an infectious \\cackle\\ of a laugh... She instantly feels warm and approachable, doesn't she? She instantly establishes that she is frank and blunt with, \n\n\n\"We picked these tumblers because they're the exact same ones as in the original, we though the fans would like that...\" \n\n \nRyan responds with a sincere, \"That is so cool... are you a... are you a fan of the original?\" \n\n\nAnd she responds with a perfectly British \"neva seen it.\" \n\n\nAnd then literally breaks into a cackle and leans forward like, \"How the fuck do ya like THAT?!\" \n\n\nI think she won the interview right there. Harrison Ford \\must\\ assume that interviewers have heard what a difficult celebrity he is to interview, and is used to them being on edge and defensive. She sets the tone right away that she has zero fucks to give about all that. \n\nThey all seem a bit uncomfortable and not sure where things are going to go at the start - and they all seem to commit to go with that, wherever it takes them... and they all seem to be enjoying that it takes it directly off the rails into a total shitshow. \n\n\nIt is brilliant. Her personality is magnetic.", "How dare you, this man has depth.", "The musical number was so smoooth. I really learned a lesson from how he's able to create such an grand energy and allure while being relatively tame (vocal and dance moves, compared to like a live pop artist or something).\nI'm taking notes on aging gracefully haha", "Hahaha this is one of the best interviewers ever.", "That interview was hilarious.", "Surreal, surreal is the word you're looking for.", "Drunk... The world you're looking for is drunk.\n\n>!just kidding... Lol!<\n\nSee his and Ryan Gosling's interview where they're both drunk.", "Live long... you've already prospered enough." ]	72	videos	William Shatner crashes George Lucas' party
https://youtu.be/vWdHPMhy270	/r/videos/comments/qhc75c/squid_game_snl/	[ "Yes. Yes this is certainly what the plot is.", "It would be hilarious to just kind of describe what happens on that show. SNL is so up with the times.", "[MIRROR](https://streamable.com/bxw0p7)", "Transformative comedy, truly", "That was rough to watch man.", "Nah, cheer up.", "I'm the first person to say modern SNL isn't as bad as everyone claims it to be, but that was embarrassing.", "I'm for anything mocking squid game personally. I don't understand the hype." ]	8	videos	Squid Game \| SNL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLgQX74opjo	/r/videos/comments/qhd6xg/6_cars_crash_on_one_corner_in_a_russian_rally_in/	[ "Rad, bro...", "Seems so weird that one innocuous looking corner would take out so many entrants. It's like they were all operating from the same dodgy set of pace notes or something.", "why do they not suspend the race when it becomes clear after the 3rd crash there is something fundamentally wrong?", "Vodka?", "Do they not use co drivers? They clearly had no idea that the \" 2 left 100\" was coming.", "There is always a screaming woman", "SAMIR!!!! YOU ARE BREAKING THE CAR. LISTEN SIMIR! YOU ARE TO BE EASY SIMIR I'M TELLING YOU!", "AY AY AY AY AY AY AY AY AY AY AY AY AY AY AY AY AY AY", "> same dodgy set of pace notes or something.\n\nI believe some lower tier events have 'stock' pace notes that everyone gets so you don't necessarily have to do a walk down. And that turn looks a little off camber, but it's hard to judge.", "How about a safety flag?", "That poor Mazda GTX.", "In Russia, corner takes you.", "Wonder how many of the crashes after the first one were just target fixation", "I love how the second one to crash rants on the next guy to come in cos he hit his car. @ 20s", "And everyone ignoring the warning triangle.", "Seeing that it's Russia, they were probably just driving home from work.", "Shattup.", "Looks like that corner was freshly graded to me.", "Russia", "You'd have thought by the third one she'd be a little more used to it happening.", "If the stage is clear the race goes on. They would stop it if a vehicle was actively blocking the road. What you didn't see is the other 20-30 cars that probably went through the turn just fine.", "That's not how rally works. They're racing against the clock, not against each other. There can be a car crashed out at every corner, as long as they're not blocking the road, the race goes on", "Practical lessons in track design, vol. 1.", "Ngl by the third one she sounded less energetic. Maybe she did it out of being used to it.", "There is always someone in the comments mentioning the presence of a screaming woman witnessing something shocking", "Rally.", "I feel this explains Mazepin somehow.", "I love how the later drivers are getting closer to making the turn, like they had better knowledge of it, then the last guy wasn't even close.", "love the art ripped right from Burnout Paradise at the beginning", "The first car has lights on top. They typically don't just let anyone drive those as they're to make sure everything is fine with the track.\n\nMakes me believe that this is probably due to dodgy pace-notes.", "After stuff like this, the track kind of evolves to make it easier and easier for cars to run wide, the turn will very quickly start to slope down into the ditch as more and more cars follow", "That's not how you rally", "Shocking", "You talking about that last car? Pretty sure that's a Ford Sierra RS.", "[Here's](https://youtu.be/dYY6RvgR-p8) the cockpit view of the second car. Crash happens after 1:50.", "Thing is, the first car that crashed is the zero car. I'm not sure why contestants were allowed on the course if the zero car didn't even finish.", "It was blind and tightened a lot, pretty reasonable to struggle with that if your notes aren't good", "In rally you start in 1-2 minute intervals. It doesn't matter if someone ahead has crashed, everyone just focuses on their goal to reach the end of the stage. They stop the stage only if the crash was really bad or the road is blocked", "Yeah I'm aware, but the first car is not a contestant. At least in ARA, you don't let cars on until the zero car clears the course. Otherwise the zero car doesn't do much good.", "Agreed, but one of those guys came in super hot like they didn't even know a turn was there at all.", "Looks like they have one. You can see it at about 1:54 in the [video](https://youtu.be/dYY6RvgR-p8_) that /u/mbzdkc posted", "I'd argue that if there are still people in or around the wrecks, the stage isn't clear.", "A car crashing slowly in a rally, 6 times, isnt \"shocking\".", "[Yeah...](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ab/Burnout_Paradise_Boxart_2.jpg/220px-Burnout_Paradise_Boxart_2.jpg)", "Nice find", "This" ]	45	videos	6 cars crash on one corner in a Russian rally in 2020.
https://youtu.be/hxV9B4uOOEw	/r/videos/comments/qhdgbe/for_anyone_looking_to_kill_an_hour_i_present_to/	[ "That is truly dreadful.", "I skipped through and found random parts with zero context, and I can't recommend doing that enough hahaha", "I was skeptical but you're totally right, it's like a fever dream.", "I was shocked but man I could not stop watching it.", "This is definitely the way!", "Couldn’t stop watching it, Ron’s charisma is magnetic. He passed away in 2017 at the age of 87 btw.", "Finally some good content.\n\nFor those wondering about the premise - Dr Trunkey of the Sinai Hospital self-perscribes himself cocaine in order to meet the ever-maddening requirements of his role. \n\nGripping a video camera in what can only be described as Blair-Witch-meets-Scrubs, Dr Trunkey takes the viewer through his journey to manage the establishment. \n\nWhat follows is a slow mad descent in to his psyche as his loves for tap dance, ET, and substance abuse spiral further out of control. What awaits viewers is a stilted shocking ride as he tries to maintain his grip on his patients, staff, as well as his sanity.\n\nThank you so much for getting this out in to the open OP.\n\n(I'm high as hell, this was genuinely great giggle wtf stuff)", "I like bad films, but not when its done on purpose.", "I’m so glad people are enjoying this!", "This is fucking incredible." ]	10	videos	For anyone looking to kill an hour, I present to you the greatest film of all time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaTgTiUhEJg	/r/videos/comments/qhdk8j/dont_choose_extinction_united_nations_development/	[ "Geez, Greta Thunberg really let herself go.", "I wonder what message would actually cut through.\n\nWe have a malaise, enabled by the greedy, that is going to cause our children great suffering. It’s already starting.\n\nWere the wildfires enough? The heatwaves? The jail? The storm surges? The tornadoes?\n\nWhat will be enough?", "We. Must. Hoooold. The people in charge. ACCOUNTABLE. UNACWPETABLEEEE", "You \"humans\" better not choose extinction otherwise we the 1% have to do all the work", "We are heading towards a billion people dying, but that isn't extinction because we would still have 6.5 billion people left. Covid-19 killed a bunch of people, yet we're still here.", "Brought to you by Modesta, Moderna, Pfiser, BP Oil, George Soros, and Rainbow Owners of Google.", "Dude, that's Jack Black.", "The guys running a ~100 billion dollar [scam](https://www.businessinsider.com/pfizer-could-sell-96-billion-dollars-covid-vaccines-morgan-stanley-2021-5?r=US&IR=T)? (I think that's lowballing it a bit too)", "Probably none of it will be enough. Most people would rather live in luxury while they can, and deal with the consequences as they come in a reactionary manner.\n\nIt's the sort of lack of motivation we all experience on a daily basis, but on a much more massive scale.", "We had a good run :-)", "Jack Black??", "Vote w/ your wallet. Even for the little things. \nThirsty? Buy the can instead of the plastic bottle. It is far more recyclable.\nBuy local and sustainable products. It may cost $5 bucks more but its worth it in the long run.\nRefuse the bag for your purchase when it is offered (unless ya really need it).\n\nAlso, plant a tree.", "Not exactly... \nIf you think of all the knowledge, time, training, efforts, achievements that are required to keep the society running it's not that linear like subtracting \"only\" one billion. \nFukushima showed us what a catastrophic failure of a nuclear power plant can cause, and there are many power plants close to the sea, which may rise or be impacted from tsunamis. \nCOVID itself, was not that much of a killer, but several countries had already burned out, killed, exhausted and were short of healthcare professionals and staff, devices, resources such as oxygen, etc... \nMore and more these events are piling and combining, like the heatwave in US/Canada Northwest, in the same year as COVID, huge forest fires even in Siberia, heavy and devastating rains across the globe... \n\n\nWhat more do you want? A headline saying \"All people who can band aid a wound please report to local health authorities\"? \n\n\nIn all seriousness we are playing with fire because 1% of the world population wants to keep their profit machine churning. That's all.", "Jack Black!", "So the message was to cut fossil fuels and help poor countries to accelerate the cc. We already missed the 1.5 mark.", "Nice", "https://dontchooseextinction.com/en/excuses/fossil-fuel-companies-are-too-powerful/", "https://dontchooseextinction.com/en/excuses/its-too-late-for-us-to-change/", "https://dontchooseextinction.com/en/excuses/where-i-live-wont-really-be-affected/\n\nhttps://dontchooseextinction.com/en/excuses/the-world-will-adapt-to-climate-change/", "I like the approach of giving people [pre-packaged and comprehensive responses to the most common climate change inaction excuses](https://dontchooseextinction.com/en/the-excuses/). The only weak spot I see is that they require people to read; if they packaged each retort in the form of a quick TikTok video, that site would be golden.", "I'm not saying it's too late. I'm saying where most people's head is at; especially outside the western hemisphere.", "https://dontchooseextinction.com/en/excuses/im-just-one-person/", "I think we should make grand spectacles with super long duration time capsules because we have chosen extinction. Take all that fossil fuel money and put a time capsule on the Moon explaining who we were and how we killed ourselves. #RememberUs", "Crrinnggee.", "What is?", "Same congress \"birthing persons\" who benefitted from those companies during the pandemic. No one will ever know." ]	26	videos	Don't Choose Extinction \| United Nations Development Programme
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sroXzp6ueC8&t=312s	/r/videos/comments/qhdkax/pewdiepie_actually_being_honest_about_his/	[ "It's refreshing that there's no patting himself on the back. That this went down a couple years ago, and he didn't want to talk about it because he wanted to tackle it alone. There's no self pity or victimization, just honest discussion and self awareness. \n\nYou can tell this is coming from a genuine place of being happy he's cut out his addictions, and wanting share his experience with his viewers. He doesn't downplay or dramatize his experience. Good for him and cool that he decided to share this with everyone", "Still a Nazi scumfuck.", "Lol OK.", "People will automatically downvote this because of the creator but this was a really well thought out, honest confession about addiction.", "The camera work makes me motion sick.", "Strongly agree. Not sure why you got downvoted.", "Why?", "He’s using his platform for something very positive.", "Ok.", "Are you asking because you have no idea what the commenter is talking about, or are you asking because you know and disagree?", "Simple reason is that Reddit is filled with a bunch of kid, hive mind pussies that are incapable of free thought, or just fat lazy fuckers that didn’t even bother watching the video. “See bad Nazi man, must downvote”! I’ve never even seen any of this guys videos before, I just saw it was about addiction and I’m going through some shit right now. I felt it was a great video describing it.", "Yeah seems I totally missed the memo on bad nazi man. I'm not too familiar with him either but this seems wholesome, weird how the hive mind works sometimes", "Ignore these people. They have daddy issues", "I’m asking because I have no idea what other commenter was talking about", "https://www.vox.com/2018/12/13/18136253/pewdiepie-vs-tseries-links-to-white-supremacist-alt-right-redpill", "Lmfao the claims they’re making are hilarious", "🤦‍♂️", "He’s not a Nazi and that article is fuckin’ awful.", "I agree. Sadly your post has attracted morons.", "You're literally a trans communist. I think you have more issues to worry about yourself rather than a youtuber lmao" ]	21	videos	Pewdiepie actually being honest about his addictions and giving very good advice.
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qhdu3c/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qhdu3c/deleted_by_user/	[ "He’s got a lot to cover in his next special that’s for sure.", "Spoiled coke head", "Wow that skit was dogshit." ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qhdvcw/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qhdvcw/deleted_by_user/	[ "Getting super hyped for this show and desperately trying, and failing, to keep my expectations realistic.", "Please don't suck! Please don't suck! Please don't suck!", "Is this based on a book? What's the general lore here?", "The constant banging noises they use in this trailer every 3 seconds to make it seem more exciting :P", "Basically: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wheel_of_Time", "BVWOMPS are so five years ago, but destroying people's eardrums is timeless.", "It honestly looks like they're reusing the palace sets from the Shanara Chronicles from 2017.", "It's really hard to tell from this if it's going to be good. This mostly just shows costumes and sets and some special effects. What matters to me is how much depth they can bring to the characters, both in the writing and acting. Not much insight here into that. I'm still hopeful, but not as hyped as I want to be.", "I recently reread the whole series \n\nI won't watch this. There is no way, especially since they have miscast several characters (Lan especially).", "Agreed.", "This trailer makes me less optimistic. Even just that very last scene with Egwene and Perrin suggests they aren't really keeping with the books particularly well.", "care to be more specific, I didn't think it looked cheap at all but maybe im missing something", "The fact that Moraine says \"the five of you\" already says enough. I really want this to be good and I'll try to give it a watch but... eeeeh", "Yea I'm not a fan of that. I get it to some extent, I suspect they're trying to simplify the plot and the reasons why the group would be going off together without getting into all the details about why Egwene and Nynaeve end up coming along too with the added benefit of trying to make them more important early on. But it does certainly add some problems to the whole prophecy of the Dragon situation. Like if the Dragon isn't necessarily going to be a man, then are there women running around as False Dragons? Does anyone care if they do? Does the reincarnation thing become useless since using saidan and saidar are so different and Lews Therin wouldn't know shit about saidar? Are the two even different in this show? Maybe they're removing that complexity entirely and just saying men using the power are tainted and it has nothing to do with saidin/saidar. All of that adds confusion and weirdness and will probably annoy fans of the series, so suggesting any of the five could be the Dragon Reborn is problematic for that reason. Not to mention the whole thing where Moiraine knows exactly the age the Dragon Reborn should be and Nynaeve and Egwene are both too old and too young. Even if they modify Egwene's age to be the same as the boys, there's still the complication of Nynaeve. It's going to be hard to have her act in the same role and manner as her book character if she's the exact same age as the rest. \n\nAnyway, yea, I'm thinking the people who might enjoy this show the most are the ones who HAVEN'T read the books.", "Yup, 100% agree to everything you said. If anything, what this show is doing to me is making me want to go for another re-read... damn.", "This movie looks like Power Rangers with British accents, and [grey ZBrush monsters](https://www.google.com/search?q=zbrush+monster&rlz=1C1CHBF_en&sxsrf=AOaemvLN8f6sZisDlC5lj5Sx5mdRv5F5kg:1635429847387&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiou-74ou3zAhWWmGoFHQyQAIYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1920&bih=979&dpr=1).", "My personal rule is that if a series doesn't hire anyone that looks over 50, the series is style over substance.", "Good explanation, thanks." ]	18	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/C31vtiLlvaw?t=337	/r/videos/comments/qheqon/car_with_no_windshield_dragged_10_miles_through/	[ "This was fucking stupid.", "I wouldn't voluntarily drag my face through glass and sand though, and that's what they did to that dumb chick. I think that's mean.", "Nice one champ" ]	3	videos	Car with no windshield dragged 10 miles through Utah desert by Matt's Off Road Recovery
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qherfn/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qherfn/deleted_by_user/	[ "Wow what a dick", "To be fair, I was already bored of his story too", "I had this muted at work and watched it and I still cringed a bit.", "I'm not a fan of the guy at all. But I also don't like when people are portrayed worse than what it actually was on purpose.\n\nAnd I did notice it when watching it that he sort of did cut him off, I also noticed that after he did the celebration thing, he went back to Shatner to listen to him and commend him on his well told experience. I think he realized where the story was headed (very long and emotional) and wanted to get the celebration out before continuing down the road, other people were kind of waiting on it.", "In the full version, he turns his attention back to Shatner and gives him his undivided attention for 10 minutes, but if we show that, then we don't have a story. Bad rich man is bad. Do we really need to make up fake things when he already does shitty things?", "Bro, who cares? This video is meant as a joke and Jeff Bezos is an evil asshole regardless of its context.", "Why care about any truth ever if bad man is bad? Bad man is bad! Grrr!", "Well Mr Shatner did went for the 'Narrating for a documentary' to deliver whatever he had in his mind. Time's money man. Lol", "Yeah for a billionaire Bezo is pretty low rent trashy.", "Nah, he's a prick and went for a retake for the sound bite, which mind you he cut to feature the positive exchange and not show him throwing champagne around like a teenager at a keg party." ]	10	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qhevux/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qhevux/deleted_by_user/	[ "Jesus", "I don't get it. This was before Andy's room?", "I love it", "Dope" ]	4	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4bir8oyLCA	/r/videos/comments/qheybc/for_you_horror_and_halloween_lovers_out_there/	[ "0:55 gave me chills!!!", "[ Jump to 00:55 @ FEAR](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4bir8oyLCA&t=0h0m55s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Grayson Productions, Video Popularity: 87.50%, Video Length: [02:26])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@00:50](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4bir8oyLCA&t=0h0m50s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Same! Good overall video to watch in the dark, by yourself, with your back to the open room and basement door open to the dark stairway, quiet ticking of the furnace and occasional hollow drip of a leaky faucet; also need a light scuttling breeze, not strong enough to gust but with bursts that cause the dry branch of your ornamental maple tree to scratch against the metal downspout…" ]	3	videos	For you Horror and Halloween lovers out there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsydzC021pg	/r/videos/comments/qhez3e/timber_twister_of_duluth_mn_stuck_behind_a_kids/	[ "That’s the worst. It ruins your ride. This happened to me at the Alpine Slide in Oregon. Looks like a fun ride if gramps isn’t slowing you down. Make sure you drive behind him on the way home", "The worst part was having the kid stuck between us, so he knew I was staring daggers into him, and you can kinda hear him calling for his grandpa to go faster, and he's just not.\n\nThe annoying part was, I even WAITED extra long a the top before going because I wanted a clear run. I dawdled trying to make sure my cameras were rolling. And I still caught up to them.", "That’s what I did too. Dawdled a lot. Asked a bunch of dumb questions. Pretending I was scared etc. Irritated the worker at the top. Still Didn’t work", "so slooooooooow.... fuck!!!!!!11", "I have good memories of going down Alpine slides in northern Minnesota growing up.\n\nI've never understood people who get mad at other people for enjoying this ride the way they want to enjoy it, though. At least you handled it better than some of [the other psychos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0tf0q_9jGA) posting videos on Youtube.", "Here is my \"Alpine Coaster\" ride: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qJiuy28B7k", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y981k2pSfY8", "What, you didn't ram into him at full speed like the infamous video?", "Park rules state we should keep 80ft between riders, which I was barely able to do with how slow they were.", "As annoying as they were being, that guy should be banned for actually trying to ram her. Once can be an accident, but that sure wasn't.", "Oh I was fuming, but getting violent would have meant I didn't get a second try at doing it. Ramming was very much against the rules.", "The second time, I asked if it was okay to wait so I got clean footage and he was very chill about it. Started telling us a weird story about mall massage chairs.\n\nThe first time I still wasn't sure if cameras were allowed, so the start of each recording is me trying to get them on and running really fast, missing the start of the ride." ]	12	videos	Timber Twister of Duluth MN. [Stuck behind a kid's putzy grandpa.]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNkgDJpcuwU	/r/videos/comments/qhf88a/so_um_apparently_this_was_a_childrens_show_in_the/	[ "Ah the nostalgia, good show https://youtu.be/NngdWbvpztk", "Mr.Blobby, [Jack Whitehalls Nightmare.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97fw8xjB5u4&t=60)", "The 90s were fucking awesome.", "Noel's house party was my every Saturday night as a family.", "Wow.. that is a young Jeremy Clarkson as the chauffeur at 33 seconds", "not a children's show... but still funny\n\nbasically an SNL skit on the BBC", "I was less confused about what was going on around me the last time I did acid than I was watching this", "It wasn't a children's show. It was [Noel's House Party](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel's_House_Party), a Saturday evening, light entertainment show for all the family.", "[Noel's House Party](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel's_House_Party) \n \n >Noel's House Party was a BBC light entertainment series that was hosted by Noel Edmonds. Set in a large house in the fictional village of Crinkley Bottom, leading to much innuendo, it ran from 23 November 1991 to 26 March 2000 on BBC One, and for 8 series was broadcast live on Saturday evenings. The show, once described by a senior corporation executive as \"the most important show on the BBC\", was cancelled in February 1999 due to declining ratings, although two further compilation specials were shown in March 2000. In 2010, Noel's House Party was voted the best Saturday night TV show of all time.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Well more importantly that god awful song caused a massive upset for Xmas no.1 knocking off a boy band that thought they had it wrapped up.\n\nThe character though is from a silly family entertainment show with many segments and he was usually in one of them and it was set in Crinkly Bottom and featured pranks on celebs and members of the public (I recall a common one being that they went live to a person who was just minding there own business on the couch.)", "Jeremy has always been middle aged, even as a child he was a middle aged woman.", "Ah Noel's House party was a family show but blobby definitely did his own thing. He had cartoons, CBBC shows etc.", "The single was the UK Singles Chart Christmas number one single in 1993", "Mr Blobby was a fucking liability. Pure psycho", "I'm sure I remember him being a regular feature on Saturday morning kids TV. Might be wrong, i think he started on Noels House Party but then popped up on pretty much everything after that.", "\"was not a children's show\"", "CBBC is children's TV.", "What a great clip, great for a morning laugh.", "Still, one of the funniest things I've ever seen! Whoever was in the Blobby suit should win an award. /gifted physical actor.", "Blobby was always on Live and Kicking.", " The phrase Bloody hell probably came from\nWatching this show", "This is no more weird that the US's giant purple dinosaur that sings about how it loves you.", ">\"In March 1994, Elizabeth Kolbert of The New York Times wrote: \"Mr Blobby's rise to stardom has provoked anguished commentaries about just what he stands for... Some commentators have called him a metaphor for a nation gone soft in the head. Others have seen him as proof of Britain's deep-seated attraction to trash.\"", "Mr Blobby was DJ on Radio 1??", "The irony is, Mr, Blobby was created as a parody of children's show characters (your Barney the Dinosaurs and the like), only to somehow become incredibly popular with children. He literally became the very thing he swore to destroy.", "I wonder if this was the inspiration for the villians in the show Happy! Really trippy.", "He even had his own theme park\n\nhttps://youtu.be/Prr59WolXv4", "Can you remind me... was it an album or a single?", "So next time you meet a British person...well be kind, you know...they maybe had a different childhood, than you...jus sayin", "Me too. What were we thinking?", "Haven't thought about Shakespeares Sister in ages", "An EP", "It was either that or the Generation Game.\n\nOr was it both? I can't remember if they were on at the same time.", "Can you blame him?\n\n\"JAACCKK!\"", "Always shocked me Noel Edmond's never ended up being caught in Operation Yewtree tbh.", "I'm genuinely horrified by Mr Blobby, I hate him", "Imagine being a male actor and you have a beautiful woman on top of you, but you can't do anything because you're wearing a blob costume.", "Kinda like Ali G to rudeboys.", "There was even a theme park ! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crinkley_Bottom", "[Crinkley Bottom](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crinkley_Bottom) \n \n >Crinkley Bottom, also popularly referred to as Blobbyland, was the operating title for a series of British theme parks operating in the 1990s. They were created by Noel Edmonds based on the fictional village of Crinkley Bottom where the Noel's House Party television programme was based. The parks operated based on the popularity of Mr Blobby. Three parks were operated under the Crinkley Bottom name in England by Edmonds' company, Unique.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Not at all, that thing is horrifying.", "Well now I’m gonna have to watch the ‘addicted to love’ music video\n\nEdit:[For the curious](https://youtu.be/XcATvu5f9vE)", "I recognised spoofs of some famous video clips: stay (Shakespeare sisters), addicted to love (Robert Palmer) and I can’t dance (Genesis). So this is from 1992 at the soonest.", "i'm pretty sure it's joe wilkinson.", "It wasn't a children's show. It was Saturday evening family show. The character was a parody of a kids character that did things that today would probably get it pulled off air these days.\n\nAlso the song made Christmas number one because the TV production company bought all the copies.", "Because the TV company bought all the copies to put it at umber one.", "That part was a surprise.", "Mister Blobby\n\nDid a jobby\n\nOn the motorway\n\nHey", "Feels like there's a fair amount of cocaine and lsd involved here.", "No! He who must not be named!", "Do non-Brits really just not get tongue-in-cheek humour? It's self-aware satire. It's supposed to be ridiculous. Of course it's absurd! That's the joke!\n\nSee Banana Man too (which is a satire of Superman and similar super heroes), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK6aVsps10I", "Most people only had 5 channels to choose from unless you were one of the lucky ones with sky or NTL.\n\nSill fond memories", "One after another I believe, as both on the BBC. I liked watching Big Break too, which was on earlier.", "Madlad", "Booyakasha", "Wait.... was that [Siobhan Fahey](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siobhan_Fahey) of [Shakespears Sister](https://youtu.be/YCYaALgW80c) / [Bananarama](https://youtu.be/l9ml3nyww80) fame giving Blobby a full body wash down starting at [1:04](https://youtu.be/rNkgDJpcuwU?t=64)? The Hell?", "Ended up with his own theme park\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prr59WolXv4", "Incorrect. This is MrBlobby who was an anarchic character on Noel's House party, a variety entertainment show on Saturday evening TV aimed at an all age audience. It was one of the biggest shows on air at the time, and MrBlobby was on of the most well know characters in the UK. The absurdity of the character was well understood, but it was that absurdity that added to the comic effect.", "The Will Carling “Gotcha” was great: \n\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-j9of2IPCRE", "I quite like Mr Blobby!", "Good on him finding something new after getting fired from 8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown (again).", "He went the other way, random new age crap like \"asking the universe\" for stuff. It's all over Deal or No Deal.", "Thanks, you've just reminded me of the crush I had on Emma Forbes as a teenager", "How come?", "Probably felt you didn't need to take acid anymore watching that show.", "Restecp!", "I grew up in the US, but my mom, dad, brother, aunts, uncles, everybody but me was born in the UK, and my family the only ones to move. Thus we'd go each year to see the family. Grandma had VHS copies of Mr.Blobby that I'd watch on repeat, I have no clue why but I loved that crazy creepy bastard.\n\nAnyways one year I come, those VHS tapes are gone. Didn't learn until years later that right after we'd left the trip before, grandad had taken the tapes out back, destroyed them with a hammer, then chucked them because Blobby creeped out/annoyed everybody but me.\n\nI can still remember the episode where he goes to the gym perfectly.", "God I miss how good saturday.telly.used to be, you've been framed, gladiators, bullseye,blind date", "they were working on a movie back in 2015... but it never happened\n\nhttps://metro.co.uk/2014/05/28/peel-the-power-the-bananaman-movie-is-definitely-happening-in-2015-and-heres-the-official-artwork-4742036/\n\nthe sound track on the website was pretty cool also.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r7K0OgqNCM", "I’ve woken up the whole house from laughing.", "Well since you fired me you prick, I've had to find new work, so I became a blob.", "GLADIATORRSS... ARE YOU READYYYY...\n\nI don't even have freeview/regular telly anymore because it's all complete nonsense like Love Island reruns, a million ads with Kevin Bacon trying to flog me mobile phone deals, and fucking Gogglebox.", "Saturday night Tv was great in the 90s. Generation Game, Big Break House Party, Whatever Bruce Forsyth show was on at the time and lots of others. Then Match Of The Day to top it off at the end. Great stuff altogether.", "Coulda found a job at [Fabio's Bannisters](https://youtu.be/DDepE8QfGro?t=634).", "Yes", "r/simonwhistler", "He was sacked from Noel's House Party though, and ended up an Saturday morning children's TV show.", "There was a time when Noel Edmonds was Mr Saturday Night entertainment, this character started as a bit on Noel's House Party. Tastes changed and I think the last thing he was up to was Deal or No Deal.", "I dunno if these were on the same night but whenever I think of Noel's house party I also remember the crystal maze and robot wars 😊", "I am still obsessed with the witchy woman who came out at the top of the stairs all like \"You better hope and pray that you make it safe back to your own world\" - she pulled the best facial expressions", "Yeaaaahh... in the late 80's the first episode of a children's show in Spain had a middle aged man dressed as his mother, talking about the Mafia, and pictured people dead on the floor with their brains out.", "Anakin?", "Saturday nights for me were Generation Game w/ Sir Bruce, Gladiators, Noel's House Party, Blind Date.\n\nLoved it all as a kid. Cilla Black, Ulrika, Wolf, Noel Edmonds. What a time.", "I'm kinda surprised to find out that the KLF was NOT involved with this", "Nice", "Wow", "Dam this has Sunny Shine vibes from Happy", "I have a fear of mascots. This would definitely terrify me.", "Mr. Blobby is The Stig.", "I heard a rumour that Simon Cowell produced this song too.", "This is like that time some kid told me Salad Fingers was a kids cartoon. I just dont buy it", "Fuck Mr Blobby and his Nightmare inducing antics", "Mr Blobby was never really a children's show character, he was a satire of children show characters.\n\nEveryone was aware of how terrifying and unsettling he was. As that was the intent. But because he was a feature on a Saturday night family show, inevitably, a lot of kids actually ended up watching him. And a lot of kids have enduring memories of him... Both good and bad.\n\nHe became super popular because it was hilarious watching him fuck shit up. So he got guest spots on loads of other British TV shows, again as the butt of the joke. Where he became a sort of symbol for 'the sort of TV idiots watch'.\n\nHonestly, those Philistines can say what they want. [This is peak satire.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkdskzUdAAA)", "Why would it be Joe Wilkinson? It makes much more sense to be (and is credited as) the man who played Mr Bobby most of the time: [Barry killerby](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1736422/)", "I think a lot of people are too young to recognize all the specific 90s music videos they parodied as well.", "Haha, everything you listed, I got that reference. \nThe good old days of Saturday evening TV.", "Whoever is in that suit does incredible slapstick, holy shit that made me laugh.", "Wow, well that's a thing.", "They’d lose their mind over The Goodies.", "Mr blobby creeps me out and annoys me in equal parts. Horrible creation but it's funny in that clip.", "I have just looked through a window into Hell.", "Mr Blobby was ON a show... and it wasn't a Kids show, it was a Saturday evening Family show hosted by Noel Edmunds called Noel's House Party!", "I remember watching this when i was a kid growing up in the UK. The sound he made was absolutely hilarious to me at the time.", "When Noel’s house party was popular I think most only had 4 channels…. Unless you were in Wales. I don’t remember NHP still being much of a thing by the time channel 5 rolled around?", "I feel like robot wars was a tad later? I remember Crystal Maze, Gladiators and Noel’s house party being about the same time… they all seemed to come around together? In my memory one week we had krypton factor, and the next it was the 90’s lol.", "Ah something important to me back then was on at the same time as blind date but I can’t remember what. There was a period of time where us and our cousins lived at my grandparents farm and on Saturdays if my nan, auntie or older cousin was around we had to watch blind date and miss whatever else was on.", "rubbish", "It wasn't a kids TV show, but it was used as a prank on a Saturday evening entertainment show. It then grew into its own phenomenon.\n\nIt's also genius. Unless you're British, you won't understand.", "Is that Jeremy Clarkson at 0:33?", "I remember when sky or cable wasn't an option in the UK. Also channel 5 only became a thing when I was about 8. christ am old", "Now I know what happened to the dancing girls/band from Robert Palmer's music videos.", "[ Jump to 00:33 @* Mr Blobby Music Video [1993 Christmas Number 1]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNkgDJpcuwU&t=0h0m33s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Mr Blobby, Video Popularity: 87.84%, Video Length: [04:02])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@00:28](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNkgDJpcuwU&t=0h0m28s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "No, it was supposed to be Marcella Detroit", "Mr Blobby still makes an appearance from time to time and if you happen to be the celebrity within his vicinity, you are fucked. You're getting covered from head to toe in shaving foam whether you like it or not.", "I feel like exposing Americans to Noel Edmonds will just raise more questions.", "I was too busy watching Xuxa in the 90's.", " I am both perplexed, and terrified!", "Possibly Stars In Their Eyes?", "With a mullet", "[This vid gives a bit of an explanation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcINGnohziY)", "It is. 👍🏻" ]	123	videos	So um... apparently this was a children's show in the UK in the 90's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8kGxcBdXYs	/r/videos/comments/qhfh98/touhou_player/	[ "What did I just watch?", "Bullet hell players in real life", "Are they the one with the mini gun or the one avoiding it?", "Yes.", "Lol I like it. I've seen and played enough touhou and bullet hell games to know that guy is a top level player :D", "Touhou?\n\nYeah most of us don't speak Japanese.", "[Here's an introductory video](https://youtu.be/E7lHJXPKoX0)", "So basically an Enderman in Minecraft." ]	8	videos	Touhou player
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qhfxk4/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qhfxk4/deleted_by_user/	[ "Damn baby boy Paul “forget about cuh” Walker. I miss that dude on the big screen", "I would binge that shit all day long if it were on Netflix.", "the beginning of family." ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QipSBMkSgds	/r/videos/comments/qhgcj3/america_when_there_is_a_financial_crisis/	[ "I don't get it.", "The old guy (Mr Burns) is incredibly wealthy. The other guy (Smithers) is a regular working person. \n\nThe joke is that medical care in the US ranges from incredibly good to nonexistent depending on your economic status. There is also the additional context of Smithers doing all of the pedaling on a tandem bicycle.", "But thats not true. I live in America and I have no money and haven't paid for health care at all. I have even had a kidney that stopped working.", "dude, I've seen people fight 3 years over their hospital bills after their child was air lifted to a hospital for head injuries. 16k heli ride that they perpetually pay, plus the actual medical bills that were negotiated to payments.", "seems like their IQ is too high to know how to get free healthcare", "Oh please enlighten us tiny mortals senpai!", "I live in America and I have no money and haven't paid for health care at all. I have even had a kidney that stopped working.", "The US is a big place and there are a lot of different experiences. A single anecdote doesn't reflect the big picture.\n\nA huge aspect of medical care is preventative care of which there is a huge spectrum of quality. The more money that a person has, the more tests and doctor visits that they can afford.\n\nThe lowest tier of medical treatment is that everybody is entitled to be stabilized in the emergency room. Of course, that has its own range of quality: available ER doctors, local hospital quality and funding, number of ambulances to get people there, and the area of ambulance coverage. The more poor and remote that an area is, the less likely that the people who live there will get to the ER before they suffer permanent consequences.\n\nI'm a bit perplexed by how you could live in the US and pay nothing for health care unless you are permanently disabled, completely broke, or a minor, in which case, it doesn't make a lot of sense for anybody to try and collect from you. You can't squeeze blood from a stone, as they say; however, there are different social programs to provide preventative care in these situations. Outside these exceptions, all health insurance in the US requires paying a monthly premium and almost all of them have some sort of annual deductible at minimum in the thousands of dollars.", ">The US is a big place and there are a lot of different experiences. A single anecdote doesn't reflect the big picture. \n\nYou're right.\n\n>A huge aspect of medical care is preventative care of which there is a huge spectrum of quality. The more money that a person has, the more tests and doctor visits that they can afford. \n\nHow would that prevent a genetic kidney disorder?\n\n>The lowest tier of medical treatment is that everybody is entitled to be stabilized in the emergency room. Of course, that has its own range of quality: available ER doctors, local hospital quality and funding, ambulances to get people there, and the area of ambulance coverage. The more poor and remote that an area is, the less likely that the people who live there will get to the ER before they suffer permanent consequences. \n\nThis is exactly what I received.\n\n>I'm a bit perplexed by how you could live in the US and pay nothing for health care unless you are permanently disabled, completely broke, or a minor, in which case, it doesn't make a lot of sense for anybody to try and collect from you. You can't squeeze blood from a stone, as they say; however, there are different social programs to provide preventative care in these situations. Outside these exceptions, all health insurance in the US requires paying a monthly premium and almost all of them have some sort of annual deductible at minimum in the thousands of dollars.\n\nThen you are not very knowledgeable.", "Well, congrats on making it to the hospital before you died. I hope that you're just as lucky next time", "You don't understand real American healthcare. you have been influenced by mass media.", "Go on?", "So apparently, you've won the US healthcare lottery. Your experience (if true) is literally 1 in a million.\n\nThe rest of America isn't so lucky and 90% of Americans go bankrupt whenever they have a serious health issue and that is even when they have insurance.", "Oh neat. You're a sovereign citizen, right?", "why? you wont believe me.", "what is that?", "Yes it's true. You are wrong, it is not 1 in a million. You are just mistaken on what the American healthcare system is.", "I think you're familiar with the ideology, if not the term. Check it out.", "well I'm not that.", "My mistake. Would you care to share a link to information on your beliefs? I'm curious to read about it in my spare time.", "I already did.", "Thank you for your time.", "no no no... thank you for proving my point.", "I, too, would like to know where one can get free kidneys. Asking, uh, for a friend.", "I never said I got a free kidney. I only have one at 100% and one at 10%", "Damn. Now I need to buy my own lunch.", "Good job deleting your comment.\n\nHere is what it said: \n>As I thought, full of shit.\n\nMy reply:\n\nNo, you prove to me how I couldn't have free health care.\n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/0LdwXMt.png", "You're not exactly helping your case.", "I thought it made sense. The rich get bailed out and the poor get pocket change.", "why?", "Tell me why I got charged $5000 for a covid test March of last year if health care in the USA is not fucked", "you make too much money. My family made 20k last year. Sorry for your reverse poverty.", "How does that translate into getting free healthcare? Do the doctors do all of their work on you pro-bono? Are you getting charities to pay all of your hospital bills for you?\n\nSomething's not adding up here and you're being really dodgy about it.", "I saw it more as the emergency room staff represented government bailouts and the rich in general. In a financial crisis the Fed and politicians can't dump money fast enough. In every financial crisis the rich (Burns) gets taken care of, the rich get richer.\n\nSmithers represents the regular person, totally ignored except for a handful of change and the recommendation to just drink your cares away. Alcohol abuse goes up during financially difficult times.\nSmithers", "Anecdotal. Your specific experiences don't mean anything to the overall statistics and the experiences of many other Americans.", "Just like the poor!", "Ah yeah, that's definitely a better analogy. I noticed the tandem bicycle but didn't put that together. Thanks.", "Can you please enlight all of us idiots. Can you please give us a quick step-by-step guide to free healthcare in America so that others can benefit?\n\nOr, are you just a troll who likes to sit back and hurl bombs???\n\nPut up or shut up." ]	36	videos	America when there is a financial crisis.
https://youtu.be/bRM2Gn9nU7Q	/r/videos/comments/qhggbc/michael_jacksons_drummer_jonathan_moffett/	[ "Wicked skills !", "Aww. The guy on keyboard hardly got any screen time at all.", "I didn't know it could be boring to watch a guy play the drums, but there you go...", "Not at all. Try playing attention to the kick pattern and how it layers with the hi hat. It's incredibly tight and he's perfectly in the pocket.", "Shameless plug for the best Drumeo video ever: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd\\_UcjMusUA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd_UcjMusUA)", "people in here who know nothing about drums saying this looks so simple. on paper it looks simple, but the precision with which he plays is absolutely incredible. and it sounds amazing.", "Not my tempo.", "Great video. Except for the guy in the background with the punchable face and the cringe \"dancing\"", "that was crispy as hell. His snare sounds amazing.", "Yep, precision is the first word that came into my mind when watching this. Amazing control over the set.", "Yep. I guess people expect a lot of flashy and unnecessary stuff instead of perfect tempo which drumming is all about.", "Watching this my overall impression was \"this video really shows the difference between a session musician and a stage musician\". It may not be the flashiest or the showiest but this dude has some super sharp control over his kit here. Way way sharper than most pop musicians ever do, this guys technique reminds me of an advanced jazz or maybe blues drummer.\n\nIn so so so many cases, some of the most talented musicians in music history have gotten basically zero recognition because they're only there to make the music, then the popstar is the one who gets all the glory. This dude is like the perfect example of that, he's technically flawless but I bet no one in this thread knew his name before today.", "It's not the flashiest song in the world but there is a lot of stuff in there that is mechanically pretty hard. The tightness on that syncopated hi hat at 0:29 is fucking insane", "that sent me down a rabbit hole. Dude is fucking incredible.", "Precision is the domain of the machines though.", "Damn that snare is clean as hell. People who say this is boring clearly don't play, the control and perfect tempo on this guy is nuts", "The \"chic's pain\" larnell video is probably the best drumming video I've ever seen.\n\nTheres a damn good reason alot of people consider him the best drummer alive.", "Theres a conspiracy theory that metronome companies use him to tune their metronomes", "Dudes totally digging it. You must be fun at parties.", "Super tidy!", "He did do a cool stick twirl at 0:53 tho", "Check him out doing BEAT IT. Even more impressive!\n\nEdit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctLu7-eid8g", "It amazes me how Michael Jackson remains popular after he buttfucked small children for years. How does this huge pedophile escape cancel culture, but someone's tweet a decade ago stirs people's emotions?", "His foot work is so dope. I can barely do doubles.", "Fuck him for enjoying watching a master preform his craft.", "Some art is beyond the flaws of the artist", "That is a clinical drummer on a crisply recorded kit!", "I didnt say fuck him. He just looks really punchable and cringe.", "Because he was never convicted. As there was no evidence", "Man, I'd love to learn to play the drums, but after watching videos like this that show you need to be doing different stuff with both hands and your feet, I know I'm not coordinated enough to master that. I'll settle for air drumming (badly) and watching others do it well. :)", "It that the one where he does the double hit and mutes on the crashes besides/behind him? Because I remember that so vividly and it was fucking badass.", "Yeah he does the the cymbals in the front and then the two high symbols behind him. Dude is a legend.", "Wouldn’t surprise me if he got started or is heavily experienced as a jazz drummer", "People are dumb", "There is never a trial for getting canceled. And go watch Leaving Neverland before you speak.", "It's right though\n\n&#x200B;\n\nAs a drummer, I say it's a crime being that smooth on a kit.", "yeah, saying you want to punch someone just looking at them is so different than saying fuck them.", "I've literally had people watch me play drums saying it looks simple and they can't even keep the beat to simple ass songs on Rock Band. \n\nAll good to have fun with it, but it's hilarious watching people with no rhythm calling stuff like this simple.", "A true master always makes things look easy. No wasted movement. I'm not familiar with this guy, but he's really, really good.", "Don't let you dreams be dreams\n\n&#x200B;\n\nIt looks hard but it's all muscle memory. It's not like you'll have to be \"Ok left foot, right hand, left foot, right hand, no wait it was left... Oh shit...\"\n\nYou practice, it gets stored in your memory and then it gets automatic. All you have to do is let the beat take you and enjoy the ride.\n\nBut it's a lot of work.", "Simple =/= easy", "What I love about that is that he doesn't play the part he knows was done by a drum machine at the start. \n\"Nope, not me. Not playing that.\"", "That behind the back symbols move is bad ass. Hitting them with timing and not looking?", "That's the technical guy for this show, he's got a laptop, not a keyboard.", "That’s not evidence. It was concocted hearsay.", "Thomas Lang would like a word", "Man the snap on that snare is gorgeous. Actually the tuning on all the drums just sounds amazing, sounds like a sample lol", "Moffett and Anderson Paak have a crispness I just can’t wrap my head around.", "Rock solid!\n\nAnd I see Drew Carey is loving it in the background.", "Before I click…is it the one where the dude listens to a song once and then plays it?\n\nupdate. \nThat was the exact video I was thinking! I actually didn’t realize he did many of these videos. That guy is the best. \n\nAs a shitty drummer myself I tend to fall in drumeo rabbit holes all the time.", "He wanted to be a bass player, so he plays the bassline with his feet. That's why he's called Sugarfoot. Michael Jackson loved how Moffett played to his dancing, with that precision timing you see here. Jackson called him \"Foot\". He was at Jackson's bedside the night he died.", "Yeah, that's what every bad drummer says.", "Learning something like this is how you become coordinated.", "such precision.. that was unexpectedly enjoyable!", "Oh ho ho shiiit!!", "It actually like the constant breaks would make this quite challenging.", "Where did you learn about that? I figured it was just MJ and Murray. That someone else would have noticed him choking.\n\nEdit: Based on [this article](https://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/19/justice/california-conrad-murray-trial/index.html), downvoters, calm down.", "Whenever I've handed my drumsticks to a friend or someone to try out they always seemed to have trouble having different limbs doing different things. Liking tapping the highhat but then stopping to hit the snare. They couldn't have both hands doing things. Not even counting the bass or highhat pedals.", "To be fair this guys probably been drumming longer than ANYONE talking shit has probably been alive.", "Yes! Ohhh loved how his kit sounded.", "Go watch the documentary and articulate why the victims are not credible instead of using inapt legal terms. This isn't a court of law, its the court of public opinion and celebrities are canceled for things far less egregious and with far less evidence.\n\nSo again why is this pedophile's legacy surviving?", "I was in a long run of reddit scrolling and for a moment i saw o.j. Simpson.\n\nI am sorry.", "Well, I'm not sure if the stick twirl would be called \"wasted\" movement. But, I'm sure he didn't have to do it... :P", "No one has the inherent skill to play drums. You learn it as you go.", "Not sure why he chose such a shitty drummer to emulate there. Lars is fucking garbage.\n\nThat dude is incredible though.", "Hey look! Someone with no musical talent!", "Alien Ant Farm did a cover of this and the drum part is absolutely awesome.", "He's so smooth and finesses the whole kit but the part that really gets me is the cymbal choke. It's not hard to do a choke, but his is so on point, damn it just sounds so good.\n\nedit: I could be referring to the Beat It performance. Can't watch the video at the moment but I've seen all of these before.", "That snare is CRISP.", "I think so yes, I've seen these before and I recall his cymbal choke being probably the best i\"ve ever heard", "Very amateur drummer here: the precision of those little high-hat flares is mind blowing. It only looks simple because this guy is incredible and makes it look easy.", "You might like Sarah Thawer", "Am I crazy? I don't see a single comment saying this, \"looks so simple.\"", "1:25\n\nI wouldn't have watched the video if it wasn't for this comment. That was so sick.", "Also check out Sarah Thawer", ">\"this video really shows the difference between a session musician and a stage musician\".\n\nI'm like 90% sure moffett also played live", "Shit dude I play guitar damned well but you stick me on a kit and it's either hand work or footwork, I cannnnot combine them", "Mega tight.", "Michael was a perfectionist to the max, and a bit of a control freak on his shows, he was on top of everything, only the perfect drummer, the perfect dancers, the perfect anything was good enough for him.\n\nThat is why his shows were so good.\n\nToo bad about the kiddy diddling thing, I can't hear his music without thinking about that so I can't enjoy it anymore", "Holy shit is that crisp. Also, it was mic'd really well, great sound!", "They think it's simple because he makes it look simple, like it's taking no effort at all. That's only because he's so amazing at his art. I haven't been this impressed by a drummer since watching this video of Danny Carey playing a Tool song with some kids.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEfS-GkSWMQ", "heel toe, practice slow.", "Jesus Christ you’re an idiot. You’re citing a one sided, biased, documentary as proof of a crime.", "While wearing freaking dress shoes. It's like he needed to challenge himself.", "I know right! Being a bass player I pay more attention to the drummer than most, that HI-HAT is the most amazing aspect of this piece to me. The hat and the kick, but the hat seems to drive quite of few MJ songs.", "I think he uses that as a \"rest\" on a a cymbal strike, he repeats it in a similar part of the song, even his flash has efficient and effective purpose!", "he didnt choke. it was murray at first then security, associates, maid, and soon paramedics", "Listening to the original you have to give it up to the sound engineer for the creative way he mixed and colored the drum sound.", "Alien Ant Farm's cover was better than the original.", "Yeah, it's one of those things where the 10,000 hour rule actually applies. Some people can get there with less, but for this level of skill most people will probably need more than 10k hours of practice.", "because he wasn't a pedophile", "\"Smooth Criminal\" is one of those songs that drives me nuts because the music is SO good and the arrangement is SO tight but the lyrics are just garbage. Like it just begs you to rock out but...ew, no. Annie?", "his drumming on snarky puppy's lingus is one of the best i've ever heard.", "fun fact - on that live recording of lingus, larnell was called in last minute and learned most of the parts on the plane ride over. he is just that good.", "But also, there are people that fully understand drums, and they also think it's simple. Because it is.", "yup, [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_XJ_s5IsQc).\n\nit's the video that made me fall in love with snarky puppy.", "yes. puns.", "I remember info during the trial [like this](https://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/19/justice/california-conrad-murray-trial/index.html) talking about how the airway was likely just blocked by his tongue and he could have been saved by a competent doctor repositioning his head.\n\n(I'm assuming a person not on propofol would wake up and do this themselves, rather than choke to death.)", "I LOVE that he's playing in dress shoes.", "That broken beat on the kick drum...", "Am I prosecuting this piece of shit? I'm asking why people still support him and the only answers I am getting here is \"because I simply don't want to believe it.\" Try actually confronting the victims.", "As a very amateur drummer, the thing that always stands out about this video is the flourishes. He could have easily hit the same beats each time he filled or did a simple rap on the hi hat, but each one is different. That is the style that comes with the mastery of percussion, and the thing that immediately proves the skill of John Moffet.", "you know how to get to Carnegie Hall? practice.", "Ok bud.", "[Here's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1z-bOCq3o) a video I found of him performing live on stage with Michael. The irony being that stage show he is a part in the video involves him being gradually being obscured from view.", "Bold of you to assume that people care about the truth more than being offended over nothing.", "For most general anesthetics, propofol is what's used to induce (put to sleep).\n\nAfter that, anesthesia is usually maintained with gas, typically sevoflurane. However, there are circumstances where gas isn't the right choice for maintenance, and then propofol is the most commonly used drug.", "I’ve watched the doc, and again, Innocent until proven guilty. A hit piece is not proof, and when alive, no court convicted him.", "Yup. Obstructive apnea is common with propofol, and sometimes, all you need to do is provide a chin lift or jaw thrust which repositions the tongue and stops the mechanical obstruction. It also provides some stimulation which can help break an apnea due to lowered respiratory drive.", "I don't know why but I find his symmetrical positioning of the crash cymbals so far above his head really funny. It's like what a 10-year old would choose to try to look badass, except he stuck with it and made it work.", "Yeah, it can be cruel and hard to separate the art from the artist. Or not possible at all.", "i just blew the door guy.", "You're grasping so hard to defend him that you're creating higher standards of proof. You're conflating court with public opinion. The question was why is a pedophile still popular, not why was he not thrown in jail. That a millionaire, who has the best defense team money can buy, got away with diddling kids is no surprise. That a pedophile who has multiple accusations from different children, who are speaking out years later with nothing to gain, and defense witnesses recanting and saying Jackson did abuse them, remains revered is fucking gross. So is seeing someone like you twist themselves into a pretzel to defend him. Yikes bro..", "> Innocent until proven guilty\n\nHow the fuck is that a higher standard of proof? \n\nThat’s exactly what every person on Earth should be afforded, whether guilty or not, and that goes for the court of law or of public opinion.\n\nYou are conflating witness testimony with fact. Accusations are not facts until corroborated and proven. \n\nDon’t reply. You’re an idiot and I’m done.", "Hey, I have no musical talent whatsoever and thought that was amazing. Don't lump us all with this moron..", "I haven't even seen you and I want to punch you..", "He had an air of \"this is how it is done kids\", and he wasn't wrong.", "Listening on headphone, I couldn't help but notice that the hi-hat is panned slightly left. Is there a big debate among audio engineers and mixers about how the stereo image of a drum kit should be? Panning it left makes me think I'm sat behind the drummer rather watching from in front.\n\nOr do I have my headphones on the wrong ears?", "I can't tell if its the lense used on the foot cam but does he have extremely bowlegs?", "Wow had not seen that one, thank you! Danny out there having WAYYY too much fun, don't think he wiped the grin off of his face the entire time. Love that guy", "That just blew my mind, I came to comment but you summed it up perfectly. Fucking robotic move, never seen that", "That's not a standard of proof. \"Proven guilty\" means beyond a reasonable doubt, which is the highest standard of proof as if this is a criminal trial. This is not, this is a judgment call. \n\nI know you don't go through life applying the rules of evidence of a courtroom and standards of proof required to incarcerate someone in every situation, but you are sure stuck on that for this pedophile for some reason. This is about poor judgment. If you had an 8 year old boy, you would definitely leave him alone overnight with Micheal Jackson.", "I don't recall seeing anyone play with that many cymbals mounted above shoulder height. Is that ergonomic or to allow him to easily see the stage or something else?", "The idea was to try something he'd never done before. I'm just amazed at the fact that he could listen to a song once and just play it perfectly without even taking notes. Also love his attitude about the whole thing.", "Ladies and gentlemen, may I introduce you to the MOTHA FUCKIN pocket?", "He had me at the first hit. I always try and guess where it comes and always guess wrong!", "Beside your point here, but some guy is headbanging in the show/crowd cam at 02:20. Found that kind of funny as a metalhead that've gone to shows that aren't metal per se, and headbanged because that's the only thing I know to do.", "Why would you leave your 8 year old son alone overnight with anyone you or him don't know?", "Dude is a fashionista! If you see him, he's looking fine!", "The parents of the boys he diddled did know him. \n\nBut let's say you have a family member that has been accused numerous times of molesting children, even went on trial for it with a high powered legal team, but was ultimately acquitted. Not found innocent, acquitted. You leave your 8 year old boy overnight with your parents. The serially accused (but never convicted) child molester comes over and the parents leave your child completely alone for a long time with him. You concerned?\n\nDipshit above would of course not be, because unless a jury says so crime doesn't happen.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quX2uBDjDQ0", "He's basically sat in the little pocket in the big pocket", "He’s in the “this is it” MJ documentary about his concert. Super talented!", "Jackson was always a strange lyricist. There were moments of brilliance, moments where he legit sounded mentally ill because he just completely ditched proper grammar or syntax (which for a more poetic approach is really saying something,) and then a lot of lazy padding.\n\n\"Smooth Criminal\" is pretty rough, but I'd argue that the very first couplet is great. Rhyming \"window\" and \"crescendo\" is inspired, and, in that first couplet, it works.\n\nThen things get weird and lazy and legitimately disturbing (and no, I'm not talking about the content or the imagery. I'm talking about the lyrical construction.)\n\nJust look at what happens when he tries to reuse the window/crescendo rhyme later:\n\n\"There's a sound at the window / Then he struck you a crescendo, Annie\"\n\nLike... what the fuck, man? You already worked this out! Why fuck around with it like that, if that's going to be the end result?\n\nIn other words... are you okay, Mikey?", "Playing simple and extremely tight is a lot more difficult than flashy, in my opinion. You can hide your mistakes if you're zooming all around the kit. But if you're driving the beat using high hat, snare, and kick, then there's nothing to hid behind. You're exposed. The tiniest mistake is the only thing people will hear.\n\nThis dude exactly on point with every fucking hit of his stick. It's truly insane talent to be so crisp. Audio quality is also a major boon, whoever mic'd and mixed that kit is stupidly talented too. But, my god, Jonathan Moffett fuckin murdered that kit.\n\nGrowing up I was in metal and punk bands, being crispy like this wasn't very important. I had a friend who was a freak on the kit, he was all over it constantly. One day we were hanging out and he told me the hardest thing for him to do was a 4/4 standard drum beat like you'd hear on a Ramones track. He couldn't do simple at all and it frustrated him. He had to do fast and wild. He couldn't keep a consistent tempo on your standard 4/4. \n\nThat's what got me thinking about how doing simple is difficult. Like, imagine making a bowl of spaghetti with marinara. Very simple dish with not a lot of ingredients. If you fuck 1 thing up the whole dish is ruined. Yeah, you can get a jar of Prego and a package of Barilla and call it a day. Or you can go to a true master who slaved over their marinara and made their pasta fresh right before your eyes and shaved Parmesan made on their own farm. The differences are obvious and striking.", "> Anderson Paak", "It's coz your gamer headset get beyer dt 770 pro 80 ohm.", "OJ did nothing wrong (the gloves didn't fit!!) They just didn't", "His father was a metronome...", "I dunno why I'm getting downvoted, but if you don't understand what I'm trying to say, u/frogandbanjo nailed it! Thanks.", "I swear, the beat and rhythm of MJs songs are just so catchy. So slick. Has a funky awesome feeling beat like Billie Jean. That first drumming beat. Mmm gets me. Love this version played alongside Moffett. It takes out some over sound to really hear the nuts and bolts of the song.", ">but the precision with which he plays is absolutely incredible\n\nnah, it's pretty much average rock drumming, nothing fancy going on here", "by 'kids' you mean his daughter.", "Talk shit about MJ all you want, you cannot deny these tracks were extremely well produced and stand the test of time.", "No, it's the camera woman's daughter, not Danny's daughter.", "It's always funny these people NEVER have a video to share of how \"easy\" it is for them .... Keyboard warriors and nothing more", "I'm clearly illiterate lol", "Im ashamed to say I never paid attention to the drums in this song. Kind of hard to when MJ was being himself in his prime. Ĺ", "Here's a great video of him performing Pneuma that really blows my mind. Everything he does is so precise.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/FssULNGSZIA", "Remember that reality show with Tommy Lee where he goes to college? In it, he joined the marching band playing drums and he could not do it. or get it. Well at least he struggled and I remember thinking shit you're the drummer for Motley Crue. Your post reminded me of this.", "I like the way he hit both cymbals behind him at once without looking- like in a martial arts film where the hero knocks out two goons behind him at once.", "Kevin Spacey was a phenomenal actor in highly acclaimed movies, but...", "Jesus, that's amazing.", "Pocket tighter than a pair of yoga pants.", "Watching this I sort of feel that it was grand of him to let the others in the band, and the singer, get to take part as well.", "Yikes. Sorry. That does make a lot more sense than you being a dipshit, I feel like I killed your comment :x", "That’s hyper accurate timing. That’s nowhere near easy.", "My reaction exactly first time I saw it!", "If you're good, it can look simple. I don't kid myself, though.", "I absolutely can’t play drums. I’ve tinkered around on drums at a friends house and can 100% confirm that this is incredibly precise and incredibly difficult to mimic. I can watch anyone with talent play drums and appreciate it though.", "My first recognition of the difference between a session drummer and a stage drummer was when the drummer from Coheed & Cambria (was a huge fan at the time) was arrested for robbing a bank or something stupid like that, they replaced him with a more classically trained session drummer. The drums are much more precise and tight. Very methodical and the guy could add the embellishments to sound more in-line with the original track perfectly. It did change the future records sound though in the end.\n\nAnyways, Jonathan Moffett is a damn machine that could make any beat sound great.", "Lingus was the only song he was actually familiar with", "That was a time that MJ used alot of rock in his pop/dance music and used some pretty popular guitarists like Van Halen (sorry if you are already aware of this!) So I'm not totally surprised to see a metal head there:)", "I did, but only because this was posted to Reddit before. Still watched it though, dude is a beast.", "That’s Sugarfoot. Dude has played on like 20 platinum albums. He knows what he’s doing.", "Genius", "No real evidence of it though. If somone molested my kid no amount of money would keep the person responsible out of prison.\n\nYou should watch some interviews with Mcauley Culkin. Dude straight up said he never had anything done to him nor saw anything done to others. \n\nI can't quite recall what he said but it was something along the lines of \"the media said kids slept in Michaels bedroom, but you've got to understand, Michaels \"bedroom\" was a 3 storey house\", something along those lines.\n\nI think he was an odd person but I honestly think if he was a serial child molester there would have been way more people coming forward, before and after his death.", "Ok, but the best drum video is definitely this - \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1j1_aeK6WA\n\nor maybe this one - \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqM7bN3Kc7I", "Can anyone tell me how much you have to make, or what job must I have to hire Jonathan Moffett to jam for me while I type out my office e-mails?", "Wound up so tight every hit is like a gunshot. Perfect for the song.", "> I remember thinking shit you're the drummer for Motley Crue\n\nIn what way can that be considered a praise?", "This carries over to other instruments too. Lots of guitar and bass players can play the flashy stuff and play fast. But playing clean and right on time is tricky. Funny thing is, you play right with the time and you sound faster.", "[Michael Todd (musician)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Todd_\$musician\$) \n \n >Michael Robert Todd or Mic Todd (pronounced as \"Mike\") (born August 19, 1980) is the former bassist for progressive rock band Coheed and Cambria. Upon the time of his initial departure, he had been with the band for ten years. He officially parted ways with the band on August 4, 2011.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "I think if you examine the actual case against him (both criminal and civil) you will find that he didn't actually do anything.\n\nRazorfist has a good 3-part examination (pt [1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pnoQqlygQs), [2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yTTEwBLfUQ), [3](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYx0vLfpRYY)) of the entire \"Jackson was kiddy diddler\" and he makes a convincing and persuasive case that nothing happened, the prosecutors were out to try and make a name for themselves, and the civil suit was a scam to get money from Jackson.", "I like the little drumstick flourish he does now and then.", "It's a really great cover and I very much enjoy listening to it but calling a metal cover of smooth criminal better than the original is way too far.", "From his Wikipedia page: Aside from working with Michael, he was friends with him and hung out at The Jackson Estate (Hayvenhurst home) with the family (including with Jackson family matriarch, Katherine Jackson, who he considers his \"second mother\") and one-on-one with Michael at Neverland Ranch and his other homes.[29] The two had drawing contests on the road when touring and Jackson sent him birthday and holiday cards when they were not together.[30] Moffett was with him the night before he died until 1 AM.[31]\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Moffett\n\nAs you can see, I was mistaken, it was the night before he died. My memory isn't what it used to be.", "We may never know whether or not Eddie was ok.", "He also does it at the end of OP's video.", "So crisp! What a master.", "You said \"if you had…\". I'm just saying I wouldn't leave him with anyone I don't know (except like a proper service with credentials). Celebrity or not, accused of crimes or not. Didn't comment on MJ specifically in any way.\n\nThat being said, I wouldn't call anyone a child molester unless it has been proven they've molested children.", "Yeah I guess I am getting the reasons Mic and Josh left the band right around Good Apollo mixed up. Since they left at the what seemed like the same time for a while. I stopped following them so closely, but did see Mic came back and then eventually Josh.\n\nPoint of the story is that when Chris Pennie came in for Josh, while a really good technical drummer, it just didn’t quite fit with the band. Chris is definitely more technical as a session drummer would be.", "> In it, he joined the marching band playing drums and he could not do it. or get it.\n\nI haven't seen that show, but marching is very different from set playing, like how playing e-guitar in a rock band is different from playing classical recitals. A marching drummer not being good on the set or vice versa wouldn't surprise me at all.", "and he fucked up the next hit", "Even if it were simple to play, this guy presumably wrote the drum pattern, and it's perfect. It really makes the tune pop. One of my favorite bass players in rock music is Cliff Williams, because he uses his bass to establish pedal tones and makes fantastic choices. It's like, \"yeah, playing 16 measures of eighth notes the same pitch looks simple, but it's not the obvious thing to do when the guitars are changing chords, and yet he made that decision.\" He's the reason those late Bon Scott and early Brian Johnson AC/DC records have so much momentum and sound so full.", "Hey, late reply (I'm not that active in the communcation game here on reddit in general)... But yeah, I'm aware. :) And I mean, the riff in Black & White is rocking, so I can understand it. More of a reflection of headbanging to music that's not \"headbangable\" combared to say Kreator's \"Pleasure to Kill\" or something." ]	188	videos	Michael Jackson's Drummer Jonathan Moffett Performs "Smooth Criminal"
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qhguw7/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qhguw7/deleted_by_user/	[ "That 40 year old sure showed that 16 year old.", "Yeah, you're not wrong.", "They’re youtubers it’s a skit" ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55oTgBHxkJs	/r/videos/comments/qhhbx2/when_i_go_shopping_and_i_suddenly_hear_techno/	[ "They should’ve asked him nicely to come(calm) down and leave", "Itz itz itz", "No dancing allowed???", "it probably sketch, notice no name on those vests.", "Oh. That’d explain his b boying skills", "Yooooo. Imma need that track name 🔥 🔥🔥", "Jeremy Black: Lock.", "Ayyyyyy. Thanks man. It's going straight to my \"👢 & 🙀\" playlist!" ]	8	videos	When I go shopping and I suddenly hear techno music playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM	/r/videos/comments/qhircq/modern_educayshun_a_prophetic_look_at_the/	[ "Nailed it. Reddit will probably delete it.", "As satire this is funny. Saying this is prophetic or even representative of education in any way is so.e of the dumbest shit ever uttered on the internet. That goes double for the conspiracy paint licker saying reddit will delete it like this is giving away some master plan the illuminaughty don't want you to know.", "but with how you are attacking the comment, just proving the satire right? Time to get the tape and put me in a tub.", "It wasn't even that funny, longer than it had to be, much longer and the idea was clear right away. meh. I smell right wing \"comedy\".\n\nedit: director says this: \"He has cited Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules for Life as a highly influential book in his life.\". Had been on Rubin report and says that he is doing this kind of comedy to \"strike the left\". \n\nIt explains a lot. It is stupid's mans idea of a intelligent and thought provoking comedy.", "Saw this years ago and was very confused. Figured it was just designed to be some kind of horror short, but it didn't make much sense to me. Now that I've been through college, it makes a lot more sense. It's obviously super exaggerated, but I can relate to it now. The idea that disagreement and sharing unpopular opinions is a form of violence that should be met with real violence... that's a real thing. Just look at the Netflix protests that just happened. If you hold up a sign that says \"we like dave\" and just stand there with it, you get assaulted, have your sign destroyed, and then when you're left with nothing but the stick the sign was attached to, they shout \"he's got a weapon.\"", "Where do you make the connection between \"influenced by Jordan Peterson\" and \"stupid\" here? I've heard a lot of criticisms of JP, but I think this is the first time I've heard \"stupid\" thrown out there. I've heard him called evil, fascist, a nazi, a jewish shill, homophobe, transphobe, and prettymuch all of the other phobes that get thrown at people, but stupid is... new. New and very off-the-mark.", "Jordan Peterson is stupid man's idea of a wise man.\n\nGoogle it. I am not the first to say it, it is in fact so overused that it is already a cliche, which is why i used it as a reference. At this point saying it pretty much puts one into the same category as JPs fanboys: saying something that sounds very clever but is not.\n\nIt is odd that you haven't heard of that yet, which could point that you have never actually read any of the criticism. Remember that no one is saying JP is stupid, pretty much the opposite but that doesn't mean his words and thoughts are very clever, consistent or compassionate.", "I took your advice and googled the phrase. I found articles where it was used to describe Newt Gingrich, as well as an incident where Peter Hitchens used it to decrypt Stephen Fry. Nothing about Peterson in the first page of search results though. When I add his name to the beginning of the search, I get a Quora question asking if he is, a random Twitter user saying he is, and then a bunch of articles from traditionally progressive sources calling him bad but not using that phrase. What am I missing here? I've tried to remain unbiased when it comes to my opinions of Jordan Peterson, but so far my read on things is that people who dislike him more often than not haven't listened to him or read his book. I've yet to hear a disagreement with any point in his book or body of work that seems to hold water, except for the analysis done by Philosophy Tube on YouTube. It's definitely possible that I'm just too stupid to find them though ;)", ">I took your advice and googled the phrase. \n\nYou googled \"Jordan Peterson is stupid man's idea of a wise man.\" and you got newt gingrich? I never said it wasn't said about anyone else, since it is quite popular phrase after all. When i google it, i get two articles that says it, then quoare, reddit and [https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/how-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peterson-the-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest](https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/how-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peterson-the-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest), among dozen others. Your google is trained oddly, and i would not call guardian a \"progressive\" but quite in the middle. Of course, if you live in a bubble anything is far left. But i would not call Macleans \"traditionally progressive\", like that would matter.. at all who said it since we are, right fucking now talking about if that phrase has been used, and it has been.\n\nAnd you are completely deflecting away from the point of that sentence. Nice move, i should've figured that out faster. \n\n\n>. I've yet to hear a disagreement with any point in his book or body of work that seems to hold water, except for the analysis done by Philosophy Tube on YouTube. \n\n\nAnd that \"takedown\" is EXACTLY the same as all criticism. It is weird that you accept them when they come from a youtuber and not when the same words are said by media or academia.", "Holy cow, here we go... Nope, I got Newt and Stephen Fry before I put his name in front, which I said. I don't live in a bubble, and I never called anything far left. I never commented on the political leanings of Macleans either. I didn't deflect away from anything. I honestly don't see what you even mean by that here. Philosophy Tube's video about him was not a \"takedown\" nor was it particularly critical of Peterson or his work, but rather critiqued his method of viewing and interpreting the world in general (which was extremely interesting and not \"the same as all criticism\"). I'm interested in learning how you see things and would love to finally hear a strong argument against something Peterson has said, but how can we get anywhere if your response is to mis-characterize everything I say? You're clearly not reading what I said, you've clearly not read Mr. Peterson's book, and you clearly haven't watched Philosophy Tube's video. There can't be a conversation at all, and we'll never find any common ground, if you're going to be all mouth and no ears.\n\nEdit: spelling. Apparently I'm too stupid to spell \"interpreting\"", "The people that don’t understand this video, are the people being played in the video. This isn’t supposed to reflect in the SLIGHTEST what school is actually like." ]	13	videos	Modern Educayshun - A prophetic look at the education system in terms of equity
https://youtu.be/IvQ3kEX6494	/r/videos/comments/qhj11n/city_workers_confiscating_goods_from_old_people/	[ "In South Korea public welfare system is limited. Older people try to get by selling used goods although it goes against the local ordinance.", "Yeah, they busted their asses off after the war rebuilding the country and this is the thanks they get.", "Oppa Gangnam Style!", ":(", "So a song mocking the excess of a ritzy place that went on to be a theme song for wealthy excess in the face of massive societal inequity shouldn't be referenced in a video shot in a nice area of Seoul where those inequities present themselves in the flesh?", "Well shit, now I don't know who to downvote...\n\nGuess I'll just not downvote either of you!", "OMG they made squid game into a real thing 😲", "clap. thats all i can do it clap.\n\ngood on ya.", "Well that was extremely depressing to watch. Especially the ladies cries of \"please, just let me keep this one please....\"", "yeah but have they tried pulling themselves up by the bootstraps", "Squid Game is based in South Korea for a good reason.", "On Reddit there are 3 things that continously make me cringe.\n\n1. \"Busan\" word means someone will say \"Oh I hope you didn't take a train there.\"\n2. \"Gangnam\" word means someone will say \"[Oppa] Gangnam Style!\"\n3. Korean Bad XYZ will mean people say \"Oh squid games/parasite is real!\"\n\nIt's funny because it's almost a sure-thing.", "This is neither Gangnam nor a nice area of Seoul. Hence the old people...\n\nSaying \"Gangnam style\" because you saw \"Korean\" or \"Seoul\" is fine, trying to defend it as an accurate reference to the video is just bizarre dude.\n\nThe likely reason these people are being moved on is because this is a high traffic bridge in a neighbourhood filled with stores that might or might not sell similar goods and pay a decent rent doing so. It's in the heart of Dongdaemun in Seoul. If they were on a street nearby they'd get less foot traffic but also most likely not be hassled by these workers.\n\nBut yeah bro. \"Oppa gangnam style!\" is a great reference to poor old people.....", "I want to believe; may be we are missing context, may be they where warned multiple times, may be they even got tickets, if not, then fuck this ruthless people, this is evil shit.", "It's irrelevant. The older demographic in South Korea cannot afford to live because of the rapid development.", "The koreaboos are already here", "Yeah. It's such a bad situation. But you can't expect the people only slightly above those in poverty to lay down their own rights.\n\nWe don't know the context here, that's the point we should be taken. Poverty sucks but so does having to pay for something someone else is doing illegally.\n\nEdit: To anyone who fails to read Korean and is still upset that I want to see both sides.. The sign behind the sellers illegally selling says \"Do not illegally sell.\".", "Was expecting Squid Game reference.", "Nah, South Korea is among the developed countries with higher levels of poverty among the elderly for a reason.", "Heartbreaking to see", "Thank god its the old instead of the young, they've had decades to save.", "To me it looks like they're more embarrassed that this is the reality and rather than fixing it they're trying to sweep it under the rug. What exactly is this cost you think people have to pay for an old person struggling to survive?", "Here I was thinking it might have something to do with the fact that the writer/director is Korean.", "Ok wow, you see something and your instinct is to say its wrong, but then your programming kicks in and goes \"They must've done something illegal that explains it then.\" And we move on. \n\n\"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.\" \n\nJust like that is how it goes all the time everywhere. As long as some capitalist somewhere slapped an illegal label on it we can stop giving a fuck about others. How nice. Just, have no more hope for our species at all", "They don't do flea markets in Korea?", "Sad", "Tell me you're subscribed to /r/communism without telling me you're a subscriber.", "Try to save on a minimum wage and you may grow some empathy.", "Seouless", "From what I understand there are designated spots and a permit is required.\r \n\r \nThe spot where the video was taken selling is not allowed.\r \n\r \nTaking their merchandise sucks though.", "Fuck them anyway, they don't have anything to fall back on, no safety nets for the elderly and they have to do this to get by. \n\nThese people rebuilt their country after the war and they're spitting in their faces now.", ">What exactly is this cost you think people have to pay for an old person struggling to survive?\n\nIs this a joke?\n\nRent? \n\nNormal people have to survive too, it's not just the old.", "because being critical of capitalism automatically means you're a communist....\n\nRight then.", "No. My instinct is to say, it's a video with zero context. Like I just said.\n\nIf you want to get angry at something, at least see both possible sides.\n\nIt's not hard.\n\nDo the people moving the old people on look rich to you? They don't to me. I don't see what point you're trying to make.", ":(", "wtf", "Jesus, lick the boots a little more.", "The problem with this comment is it shows you're willing to just make shit up about a city and country you know nothing about for the sake of making a point.\n\nNot sure what a \"nice area\" in Seoul means since you felt the need to throw that label out, but this isn't an upscale area. Looks like 청계천 in the background, maybe near Dongmyo but I don't know. It's just a place in Seoul.\n\nAs for the \"Gangnam Style\" song, you got the first part right. But when did it become a theme song for wealthy excess? Maybe in the US or some other western country? That's on you guys. In Korea it's just a song. It's not like rich dudes in Lambos are riding around Cheongdam blasting Gangnam Style.\n\nEveryone in Korea knows there's income inequality. That's why they make shows and movies about it. Next time make your point without mischaracterizing a bunch of stuff about a country as if Korea and Koreans only have value as props for your dumbass internet arguments.\n\nEdit: ITT redditors attemping to stick up for the rights of elderly Koreans while simultaneously acting like racist imperialists who don't think they need to actually understand anything about Korea or those poor Koreans to speak on their behalf", "Yea, because if it's not capitalism it must be communism. Problem of a two party system. People will think answer to all society questions is some type of multiple choice test.", "So this video displays the police enforcing a well known and understood law? Weird how you didn’t title it like that?", "The local government should make a place where these people can sell there second hand goods, in our city there is a second hand market 2 times / week and it's full of people selling/buying second hand stuff.", "Nice try trying to shift the discussion. What cost do 'normal' people incur to let these old people sell small goods to survive? From my perspective the only thing they have to pay is the realization of a failed monetary policy and the embarrassment that comes with it. My guess is after squid games there was a huge crackdown on homelessness and situations like this one because that show highlighted a serious problem that the south Korean government is extremely embarrassed by.", "It's how it is enforced, not that it was enforced. They could simply have asked them to move, as they do here in my city.", "Why not both?", "> Looks like 청계천 in the background, maybe near Dongmyo but I don't know. It's just a place in Seoul.\n\nYep. Right near 동대문. Location: http://kko.to/O7pL9tP4o\n\n> In Korea it's just a song.\n\nNah it has meaning in Korea. But it's meaning is more like, \"you are trying to be rich.\" and \"Look how silly rich can look.\". Has nothing to do with poverty or hating rich people though lmao.", "Who gives a shit. I'm Canadian and see the sorry Canadian shit constantly, and it snows all the time, and Americans constantly get the fat American stereo type. It is definitely not worth caring about at all.", "If only there was a communist Korea to see how they faired", "> Is this a joke?\n> \n> \n> \n> Rent?\n\nI guess it is a joke?", "You'd have to be pretty stupid to misread both my comment and the comment by the guy I replied to. I said he got the first part right: it's a song mocking excess and ostentatious displays of wealth.\n\nNow please tell me when and where it became a theme song for wealth. In Korea? Or in the US? Maybe in the US it's a theme song for wealth, but implying that Korea in any way adopted that meaning for the song is disingenuous.\n\nEdit: Maybe I should explain this with an analogy you can understand. If you wanted to make an ironic statement in response to yet another story of a white officer killing a black individual, which would be right comment:\n\na) \"I have a dream!\"\n\nb) \"Make America Great Again!\"\n\nIf you can answer that, then you can understand why saying \"Gangnam Style\" makes no sense. If you can't figure out which one is right, then you shouldn't be in this conversation.", "This is called Fuck the Poor and it happens all over the world.", "You do know there are other systems used to distribute wealth that aren't communism... right?", "Aren't most Asian cultures brought up to \"Respect their elders\" kind of mindset? Or do they not strictly follow that tradition?\n\nIs this an overreaction by the local government? (Even though the people most likely knew what they were doing was not \"correct\")\n\nEdit: Honest question here, not sure why I am being downvoted.", "People realising \"Squid Game\" was based on very real issues in South Korea finally?", "If we go by names then North Korea is actually Democratic!\n\nDAE democracy bad? Look at North Korea!", "If they were warned multiple times, what are they gonna do? Bootstrap? If your economy isn't built to support the poor, they will always be poor.", "You’re assuming that this is the first time to police have dealt with these individuals. How do we know they weren’t warned 5 times already in the past month?", "The entire story of the making of that show would overshadow the show itself if the writer/director somehow wasn't Korean. Would be quite the story of how a non Korean shot a series with all Korean actors speaking Korean lol", "I never understood this victim-blaming ultra-legalist worldview some people have where they think laws are a game of Simon Says, where someone gives random commands and you have to obey them, otherwise it's your fault for failing to comply with ridiculous rules. \n \n\"oh, you knew this was illegal and you did it! YoU Do tHE CrIMe, You dO THE TiME, grandma! PlAY sTUpid GAmES wIN sTUpid PRiZeS!\" \n \nUnfair laws that target poor people aren't any less unfair because they were \"well-known\" or \"well-understood\".", "The problem with a one party system is that there is no choice. \n\nThe problem with a two party system is that there are only two possible choices. Usually both are bad.\n\nMulti-party parliamentarianistic democracy FTW.", "Doesn’t happen in America sorry", "The South Korean government only allocates one bootstrap per person as part of their public welfare system, any extra bootstraps the elderly are in possession of will be confiscated by city workers and destroyed. \n\n/s", "I think he was trying to say that North Korea is far worst off. Calm down a little, stop being overly emotional, not all pain and suffering in the world can be prevented, it will happen in the best of systems, and far more in the worst... or in other words, North Korea", "and how exactly does this make the situation in seoul acceptable? IT DOES NOT!", "TIL Americans cant stick up for elderly Koreans ¯\\\\\\_(ツ)\\_/¯.", "I seem to remember someone DYING as a street vendor. So, yes, it DOES happen in America.", "Yep. South Korea's poverty problem is \\real\\ bad. Debt slavery is basically how much of the working class gets by. Of course, shit like this doesn't make the world flip out, but western propaganda about NK always gets people talking about nuking them. Life for the lower class in SK is arguably worse than NK.", "Mk Karl Marx…\n\nWhere in America are the elderly getting their goods taken away from them on the streets?…some sort of proof would be nice 👌", "This is a bot that copies the first couple sentences from another comment in the thread. Doing it in multiple threads. Should be banned.", "How is this in any way related to Squid Games?…", "It was a joke lmao", "But many in Korea did.", "communist Vietnam?", "South Korea, poverty, authoritarianism, etc.", "Another guy who doesn't know what he's talking about.", "Yes because he was referring very specifically to old people having their goods taken away and not more generally to the poor and underprivileged being shit on by a system that benefits the wealthy. Great rebuttal.", "> this isn't a particularly nice part of seoul. It's near the dongmyo markets\n\nYeah, I wouldn't think a place near dongmyo markets would be nice.", "If you want to stick up for Koreans, elderly or not, then don't make up random shit about their country like they're not real people with a real history. Get it?", "https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States", "Because Korea is the only country that has poverty?", "I think \"Asian Culture\" does not hold any longer in any Korea, and here there is only \"liberal capitalism\" at its finest.", "Had not the players succumbed to their debt?….so desperate that they’d do anything?…how is that the same?\n\nI could see an authoritarianism argument\n\nAnd just because South Korea it equals Squid Games?…the link is garbage haha", "They said the reality of squid game is the universal experience of people under capitalism.\n\nThats not just criticism of capitalism, its hyperbole.", "왜 둘 다 아니야?", "I mean, none of those reasons would make this ok.", "Pretttty sure Squid Game is based on Jeff Bezo’s last birthday party", "Makes you think about who these laws benefit.", "That's not at all what they're saying", "Squid game could have been in most cities and it would fit very easily. There are always people in destitute.", "He may be emotional but he still has a point. Every time someone argues that capitalism has flaws you have those guys who jump out of the bushes to say communism is worst. It feels like a cop out. Instead of trying to make things better, or more fair under capitalism, let's just stop the discussion by saying communism is worst and get on with our day.", "Whoa whoa…formulate your thinking buddy. \n\nFirstly, why are you saying, “yes?” It wasn’t a yes or no question. \n\nSecondly, I was asking for an instance, exactly like this one, where city workers are taking goods away from people in America. \n\nThirdly, how does welfare benefit the wealthy? Read the OP’s comment: “ In South Korea public welfare system is limited. Older people try to get by selling used goods although it goes against the local ordinance.”\n\nIs English your second language? Because it’s really hard to track your argument.", "No shit. It's called stereotypes and pop culture. It's the basis for most attempts at humor. You never watch Late Night shows or other mass appeal comedy. \n\nYou take the basic subject of the joke, then think about what most people relate it to, then you combine the two in some way.\n\n> Today in the news: elderly impoverished South Korean street peddlers were roughed up by city workers. Their merchandise was confiscated as they begged for mercy. When reached for comment one city worker said \"These people are parasites, you know, like the South Korean movie?\". Among the merchandise confiscated were used clothing, copper incense holders and six academy awards. \n\n<applause sign>", "Well sure, but unfortunately governing law is governing law. Can disagree all you want, but go against it and something’s gonna happen. Don’t like it, get a law degree and change it - otherwise yeah, law is law.", "People of all countries, races, and continents, join together and shout with one voice. Fuck the government.", "Wow you didn't understand the show well. The players were losers in life sure, the capitalist system always has losers. They are forced to play games for the promise of money. The rigors of the game make people cheat and mistreat women, elderly, and the migrant worker. The rules are \"fair\" on the surface but some people have insider information / an edge. Even in death people are reduced to their $ / organ value. \n\nThe writer has discussed a lot of this in interviews", "Regardless, the state shouldn't steal legitimate property. They should be fined. Punishment should be proportional, and there is no way of knowing offhand the value of confiscated goods.", "A lot of native English speakers don't know much about South Korea.", "👢😛", "Why do people deflect to \"communism bad\" whenever there's any criticism of capitalism?", "all over the Western world. edit: seems the butthurt brigade can't take the truth.", "capitalism trumps tradition", "I'm a simple man. I see a penis synonym I made a joke.", "Oh well since there’s a law it’s totally acceptable behavior!\n\nTime to bring back poll taxes and literacy tests and heck let’s make white men the only people allowed to own property again! What’s the big deal??? They were laws and laws need enforcing!", "\"why do you think x activity is bad\"\n\n[\"because it's illegal\"](https://i.imgur.com/1hoQmEe.jpeg)", "So you're saying it's okay to be critical of capitalism but not of communism?\nI don't think there's anyone out there that would argue capitalism is flawless. The problem is, people typically aren't saying it has a flaw, they're usually shitting all over it as if it was the root cause of all problems in society.", "Well when the only 2 two prominent economic schools of thought are Market or Marxist based that might be the reason.", "No, South Vietnam", "That is someone’s mother yelling at that worker. Damn it Seoul!end homelessness!", "Star trek deep space nine called this \n\n\n[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past\\_Tense\\_(Star\\_Trek:\\_Deep\\_Space\\_Nine)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_Tense_(Star_Trek:_Deep_Space_Nine)) \n\n\nthey just stated 2024 but hey whats 3 years early to get the start", "…\n\nIt’s a sarcastic response because yours was dumb af.\n\n> he was [not] referring very specifically to old people having their goods taken away and ~~not~~ more generally to the poor and underprivileged being shit on by a system that benefits the wealthy. ~~Great~~ Awful rebuttal.\n\nHopefully that helps!", "its only created to make the city appear clean and without issues, that's a major issue to a lot of people who are not boot lickers", "But this is South Korea....", "Law is law, but when the law is unfair, it's not the people breaking it that you should be disdainful towards, but the authorities. Nobody here is arguing that it was not the law. We are arguing that the law is stupid. And that the granny is a victim of an unfair law. \n \nIf the law is that you should jump off a bridge, would you do it? Should I see you being dragged by the police to be thrown off the bridge and say \"oh, well, it's the law!\". \n \nAgain, this isn't Simon Says.", "Extremely shallow response. You gloss over the permitted part and don’t know what that might require and how much that might cost. If the enforcement of this is any indication, it’s likely designed to be outside the reach of these people. \n\nIf they were taken care of in the first place, they wouldn’t need to resort to selling things like this.\n\nThis isn’t about what these particular people were doing and how, if they were not disruptive, then this is more indicative of the system as a whole than how “egregious” the “crimes” committed by them.\n\nI don’t know how likely it would be for them to have access to something like Craigslist, and furthermore how valuable the stuff is they are selling for it to be worth it to sell things individually, rather than going somewhere to get the attention of passerby’s.", "idk man, korea is pretty east...", "You do not need a law degree to have laws changed, protesting and standing up for peoples rights goes without any legal education needed. People standing up and fighting the government is what changes laws, not lawyers in a room.", ">Well when the only 2 two prominent economic schools of thought are Market or Marxist based that might be the reason.\n\n\nIt's only one sentence, how could you fit so much foolishness in it?", "no, they're saying stop changing the subject and address the problems of capitalism.", "You would be delighted to know that South-America, Africa and the Middle East have the highest income inequality in the world!", "I'm sure it's so much better on the streets of Mumbai, Karachi, Lagos, Cairo, Caracas, Manilla... /s", "No humanity. How can a state be so cruel.", "They are but they are also a creation of the west", "Thanks for adding additional info. My main point about \"Gangnam Style\", which I didn't really articulate, is that these throwaway comments feel like they're intended to be clever \"gotcha\" statements that show how the song misrepresents Korea, when the song wasn't trying to project that image in the first place. If someone says \"Best Korea\" in reference to some NK propaganda claim, at least in that case, it's referencing the inflated claims the NK governing regime makes about NK.\n\nBut \"Gangnam Style\" is a song written by a musician. The meaning to Koreans is likely as you said, but \"Gangnam Style\" is irrelevant to everything in this clip.\n\nEdit: Just saw your Instagram and realized I've come across your photos before. You take a lot of nice shots.", "Fuck off bot.", ">i mean this is just the universal experience of people without privilege living under capitalism. \n\n> only countries where this doesn't happen are ones that have managed to veer away from this severe form of late stage capitalism\n\nSo it happens universally under capitalism and yet it doesn't.", "so whats the alternative? ...socialism? lol\n\nyou realize what socialism is right?", "Please show me where in my comment I said you're from the US. If you can't answer my questions, there's no reason for you to be in this conversation.", "No /s?", "Yeah if a crime is committed you donkey", "I’ll give ya that…\n\nJust don’t see how an authoritarian government is linked to capitalism 🤷‍♂️ \n\nI love the downvotes by the way \nKeep them coming ya plebs 😂", "How is that equivalent to city workers taking stuff", "ah yeah i hear in communist countries they let people sell things on the street, what a very awesome ideology", "Pointing out the problems of Communism doesn't help solve the problems of capitalism.\n\nThey're actually completely separate subjects. The abuse of laborers by wealthy elite is in no way the exclusive province of communism, just as the abuse of citizens by police is not the exclusive province of capitalism. These problems exist because power corrupts and creates privilege that subverts a fair and equitable society. Ironically that's exactly what Marx was talking about. He was describing specifically the type of unsustainable instability endemic to capitalism that we are currently witnessing. He didn't actually say that there was a perfect alternative system only that this thing inevitably breaks down because laborers can realize they are the ones that actually are creating the wealth.", "In before communism has markets. Yeah controlled by the party vanguard at gun point", "Ah so saying \"this is the universal experience of people without privilege living under capitalism\" is addressing a flaw? Depends on what your definition of \"privilege\" is.\nThis IS a universal experience of anyone living under communism. Unless of course you're part of the government.\n\nThe \"un privileged\" in our country still have expensive cell phones, vehicles, internet, tv.\nThose in communist country's wait in line with a ticket for bread.\n\nLet's get a grip on reality.", "No, but because Korea is a country that also has poverty.", "Don’t rise up to tyranny. Stay down and take it. Don’t get angry, how dare you get angry. Submit and know your place.", "For one, a free market isn't exclusive to capitalism. And that's a huge simplification of a very complex subject.", "Every day when I went to work in Seoul there would be a 90+ year old 할머니 sitting on a blanket selling gum at Gangnam station. South Korea got rich fast but a lot of people were left behind.", "Holy shit your education system fucked you lmaooo\n\nHow are there people this stupid? Do you live in a rural area?", "Garner was needlessly killed by police, who are city workers.", "it's because it's so much easier to blame poor people for their own circumstances. Blaming poor people insulates your brain from the possibility that you could be in their position some day.", "I hope that doesnt happen. I think capitalism might have been a really effective resource allocation system when the world just didnt have that many resources; but there needs to be some safeguards on it. It will be crazy when one day we can transform any energy into matter and \"things\" lose their power over us. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nYou know whats funny about Star Trek, is even though its AWESOME - I dont think that they realized so many things that are now apparent to us. The rise of artificial consciousness that far exceeds our own, the limits of physics, the rise of neural interfaces to keep homo sapien relevant before the rise of the singularity . \n\nThe future of humanity, is more likely to be exploring the realm of consciousness than the realm of the universe. And that sounds lame, but what does that mean? Can you explain what a car is to a goldfish? How can someone explain a brain enhanced consciousness of the 2400s to one of us? I think that in the year 1000 it was probably fairly easy to predict 1500, 1500 it was fairly easy to predict 1700 - seems like as the pace of technology increases our ability to project out into the future what the future will hold halfs. I can't imagine what the year 3000 will hold. \n\nI got so lost I forgot what thread I'm on. Yea, poverty is the thing that causes the most loss of dignity and injustice in the 21st century. I hope things get better.", "> only 2 two prominent economic schools of thought\n\nOh boy, if it were only that easy.", "Korea is the only country that produced Squid Game, actually", "Thanks professor!", "If a crime is suspected of happening. Try reading ya donkey! \n\nGuilty and forfeit until proven innocent", "Despicable. Some people only have shame where their hearts ought to be.", "Market socialism is actually exploding in popularity. Discussion of USSR style authoritarian communism is irrelevant when talking about western leftism because so few western leftists are tankies.", "And there's also jury nullification.", "I think capitalism is involved because this person had to resort to being a desperate street peddler. Also there could be class issues; the idea being that this nice place shouldn't be \"messed up\" with impoverished people.", "Brazil did another \"gameshow battle royale\" called the 3% years beforehand. It's not exactly a unique idea at this point.", "Hey thanks for promoting the sub friend.", "They are trying. But government regulations are preventing them for doing so.", "you never heard of mixed market economy? in fact pretty much all economies are technically mixed market its just they lean heavily one way or the other. also in each system there are different theories. keynesian, hayek, etc\n\nalso most communist countries during the communist rising followed more the leninism branch of communism rather than the pure marxist ideas", "poor poor south korea. can't afford to take care of its citizens despite being one of the world's top sources of technology. /s\n\nbut really it is disgusting that SK isn't taking care of its own people with the wealth they have, until they fix this shit they have no right to complain about the north IMO.", "Take a look at libertarian socialism/anarchism. It works very well. There are two large communities right now, one 700,000 people in Mexico and one 2,000,000 people in Syria. It's a model that works very well, and seems to have also worked very well in history. \n \nSocialism isn't one thing, if you think it is then you have some learning to do.", "Him use big think but you no only little think.", "I support mixed markets! Regulation is crucial, I just hate Marxism. Also I’m done replying to the keyboard warriors, have a nice day everyone!", "Nevermind the fact that pull yourself up by your bootstraps is a farcical phrase.", "Well gawd dammit boy howdy why didn't none of us think about that? You know with a good pair of bootstraps you don't even need an aeroplane you just keep pulling on up and don't let go until you are in Australia!", "It’s a shit practice for sure but the police are not going around confiscating property.", "https://patch.com/new-jersey/galloway/cops-take-10k-nj-couple-they-wouldnt-give-it-back\n\nhttps://reason.com/2021/04/14/phoenix-police-seized-40k-from-him-at-the-airport-but-never-charged-him-with-a-crime/\n\nhttps://pulitzercenter.org/stories/no-drugs-no-crime-and-just-pennies-school-how-police-use-civil-asset-forfeiture", "Report it", "Gotta love Redditors who think they're gonna come up with a whole new ultra-complex socioeconomic system... Someday... Any time now...\n\nBut ofc all y'all end up doing is protect the status quo, so at the end of the day you might dislike capitalism, but you help keep it alive by stalling the fight for actual systemic change.\n\nAnd all this is coming from people who, for sure, have no idea what communism even means, so y'all are trying to solve a problem whose answer we already have and have had for ages (and it ain't a simple answer, there's a reason Das Kapital is as thick as the Bible). It's the socioeconomic equivalent of flat earthers.\n\nSocialism or barbarism. Either the people are treated as equal under the system or they're not.", "Ok so a guy gets killed and all of a sudden city workers are confiscating property left and right.", "You're doing exactly that thing. No one was talking about communism, and now you're wanting to end criticism of capitalism because communism is worse. \n \nUnder feudalism would you also be saying 'but this is the best system the world has ever seen!'? Our system has flaws. It deserves to be criticized. Jack offs like you that try to end conversation of problems in the system are not contributing anything.", "The worst part is the people just heartlessly taking their stuff like they are actually doing the world good.", "If you want to change minds then contest the bad ideas, do not only insult to make yourself feel better.\n\nThe choice is improving the world or personally feeling better, you made the selfish choice here.", "Shitty but even more, I don't like how enthusiastic, aggressive and without compassion the workers are doing it.", "bahahahahahaha yes mexico and syria, two model countries to base your shitty ideology around\n\n>Socialism isn't one thing, if you think it is then you have some learning to do.\n\nexcept for when it literally is, as in always :) have fun larping in the woods buddy, ready to move to syria yet?", "lol, cops destroyed homeless encampments in Echo Park, LA just a couple months ago. In fact that’s a regular occurrence in LA and urban areas all around the US.\n\ninb4 “well that’s liberal politicians fault” well conservatives don’t generally fund city workers (besides cops, ofc) enough for this to happen regularly, so their neoliberal economic policies do plenty of the work of stealing from the working class on their own.", "There are spots like flea markets where they can do this...completely makes sense that confiscation is happening...", "Nope! Numerous stories of people getting pulled over and having their entire life savings seized when no crime was committed. \n \nAlso, you're defending the idea that the police get to be the judge and juror. No they fucking don't. Whether or not someone committed a crime the police shouldn't get to take their shit. Punishment is not the police's job.", "10% of americans are food insecure, 2.5 million children in america are homeless. I don't think you have an understanding of what privilege even is.\n \nMaybe you should get a grip on reality.", ">Well when the only 2 two prominent economic schools of thought\n\nExcept reality isn't black and white with pure capitalism or pure socialism.\n\nAmerica has a Social Security system even though it is mainly capitalist. This was enacted due to events exactly like the OP video. A society that oppresses the elderly among us certainly has something wrong with it and needs a solution.", "My favorite part is that there are no countries named as examples to back up all that stuff they just said", "The problem lies in the fact that their \"retirement\" and \"social welfare\" system is mostly based on their children taking them in like in the old days.\n\nUnfortunately modern Korea has many people without family or resources so we end up with the elderly in the street.", "Suggesting capitalism is the problem implies that another form of governance is the solution. Often times that suggestion is communism. \n\nUnder capitalism, 2 people can start from wildly different positions and end up with two completely separate outcomes depending on choices. Under communism, that possibility is removed, you don't own anything that hasn't been given to you by the government.", "Tell me you’ve never traveled without telling me you’ve never traveled", "If you can look at an authoritarian state and a stateless society and say they're the same thing then you're the biggest idiot I've ever met.", "It happens universally under capitalism unless you have strong socialist governments to prevent it from happening. A strong socialist government that stops capitalism exploiting people is called 'communism' by americans.\n\nHope that clears things up for you.", "How did they die?", "나는 이미 말했다", "Not to mention that extreme legalism is a very easy way to divide people into \"good\" and \"bad\", without requiring much critical thinking. \n \nSomeone somewhere passes some rules and, as far as you're concerned, those who follow them are good and those who don't are bad. You don't need to go into philosophical thinking and make your own judgement about what is \"good\" and what is \"bad\". Someone just serves you a moral framework on a platter for you to consume and internalize. \n \nCombined with overlooking cases of police abuse, you get to the logical conclusion that every arrest is justified and everyone who's being fined or arrested deserves it. Everything works perfectly. With that, you can sleep well at night knowing that God is in his Heaven, all is right with the World.", "surely it's much better in the country that oppresses it's own citizens as well as everyone else. the one holy republic or whatever it's called, China.", "There are many flea markets in designated areas. You need to apply beforehand to set up a stall.\n\nThe selling of small wares like this on the side of the street is kind of traditional, even if it is illegal. If you get a permit there is no issue, but sometimes city officials will want to gentrify an area, so they kind of push out the street vendors with force. There have been records of politicians employing gangsters to dispense street food vendors in Gangnam and other places.\n\nHell, even the location of this very video was the scene of one of the largest displacements of small businesses. Now it is a fantastically curated river to walk along, but 20 years ago it was under a dirty highway with dozens of small shops set up under it. The city realized it was prime downtown real estate. Took down the decaying highway, displaced all of the merchants and gentrified the area. There was a large shopping center constructed in the southeast corner of Seoul for those merchants to move to, but the location is about 30+ minutes away by subway, or like an hour or two in heavy traffic.", "ill \"look\" at a stateless society when i actually see one thanks ;) you just talking about them isnt exactly proof is it?", "> the state shouldn't steal legitimate property.\n\nThe property became illegitimate once they broke the law with it like they did.", "Okay and 40% of North Koreas population if malnourished, and would be higher if it wasn't recieving foreign aid. Venezuela is between 50 and 80%. Your point is what?", "Ever been there? Huge parts of the country look like it was built yesterday by Facebook. And the other parts are still boiling chicken for dinner that they butchered themselves in the backyard pen. It’s got a long way to go before it is completely 100% first world country status.", "This is an issue specific to South Korea. The elderly there do not have the equivalent of a high school education. The country in the 50s and 60s was one of the poorest in the world. \n\nYounger people, even those struggling, grew up among technology and understanding of modern civilisation.", "my point is to actually address the failings of the american system without deflecting to failures of other systems holy shit.", "> The future of humanity, is more likely to be exploring the realm of consciousness than the realm of the universe.\n\nThere's no such thing as consciousness, certainly not as a realm to explore. We already know that consciousness is merely a series of feedback loops in the brain, and that continuity is an illusion created by memories.\n\nCan we let this whole 'The MYSTERIES of CONSCIOUSNESS and the HUMAN MIND' bullshit die like it should have in the 50s, please?\n\nThere are no mysteries, only delusions.", "but kpop is so cool!", "Jokes are usually funny.", ">Unfair laws that target poor people aren't any less unfair because they were \"well-known\" or \"well-understood\".\n\nHow is the law unfair? The law is meant to prevent public walkways from becoming overrun and bothersome with ad hoc shops.\n\nSimilar to laws that prevent homeless people from setting up tents in these areas.", "Yeah, he's pointing out the silly Russian/Chinese propaganda that it doesn't just happen under capitalism.", "These people are only all over the western* world.\n\n/s", "https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebel_Zapatista_Autonomous_Municipalities \n \nThere have been many of these throughout history. They haven't been rare. Some of them have been millions of people. \n \nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anarchist_communities \n \nI like that you don't let not knowing anything prevent you from making baseless, ideological assertions. You are spectacularly uninterested in reality. Never let facts get in the way of your worldview!", "Except here, random public vending on public walkways is bad because it injects disorder and nuisance to people walking down the street.", "Corelation instead of causation. Korean social issues influenced Hwang Dong-hyuk to write the script, just like American social issues influenced The Wire’s creation.", "And they’re certainly not alone! I just get frustrated that news articles about their widespread protests don’t ever really make their way to mainstream western media, but it makes sense that it wouldn’t seeing as the western world is basically equally fed up right now and they don’t want us organizing…", "Bad analogies, jumping off a bridge is just a silly example that only conveys \"sometimes civil disobedience is called for\"; okay? But that isn't the case here.\n\nSimon Says is designed to be tricky and trip people up, this law is widely known and has a purpose.", "emphasis on \"have been\" :)))", "I think that’s backward. Look at what the GOVERNMENT is doing! If anything, capitalism has given a way for decrepits to make money; right?…\n\nI guess what you’re saying that there isn’t enoughhhh welfare. That these people don’t need food and what not, but more money?", "this video clearly shows that bootstrap pulling will incur the wrath of city workers. City workers hate this", "Most of your success is going to come from personal motivation (college, certifications, job experience). Others will be involved along the way. But it starts with pulling up your boot straps.", "Me no think good", "Yep, the people need to unite their voice to get legislators to listen and change laws.", "Most countries can fuck off", "It comes from the notion that the government is the literal will of the people made manifest, so going against the government and the laws is going against everyone. Such a deferential approach gets you all kinds of regulatory fuckery, and cops getting called for stupid shit", "They have started to treat it exactly like Simon Says. Looks at [this](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lancaster-pennsylvania-police-officer-philip-bernot-who-tased-man-sitting-on-curb-wont-be-suspended-mayor-says/) story and video from Lancaster, PA. The cops tell him to sit down and put his legs straight out, which he did right away. Then they tell him to cross his legs. When he brings his legs into cross them they taser him immediately. Saying he did not comply with orders to keep his legs straight. Fucking disgusting.", "I thought South Korea was supposed to be better than North Korea. I was wrong!", "would you like play a game", "And why isn't it the case here? \n \nThis law does nothing other than to punish a poor person, for nobody's benefit. \n \nAnd you arguing otherwise shows one of the reasons why I hate the \"hey, I don't like it either, but the law is the law\" argument - because it's a lie. \n \n\"Hey, I don't like it either, but it's the granny's fault for breaking the law\" is just a front for \"I do actually like that law\".", "> They said the reality of squid game is the universal experience of people under capitalism.\n\nNobody fucking said that... what even is reading comprehension \n\n> \"i mean this is just the universal experience of people without privilege living under capitalism.\"\n\nthis being the situation pictured in the original post video - not the comment about squid game.", "You cannot possibly be that obtuse.", "Has anyone else noticed the increase of negative and reactionary videos on this sub ?", "https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Eric_Garner", "You must not be from an area where this type of street selling is common. These generally aren’t to stop granny from selling stuff, it’s to stop the congestion the accumulates over time. Sure you don’t have a problem generally if granny and her friends are selling their things, but if more and more people show up to sell their things and this overpass suddenly becomes overrun with vendors selling junk you now have a problem. There are definitely stupid laws - like it being illegal to carry ice cream in your back pocket in a certain US state, but this probably has some reasoning behind.", ">\tthis happens all over america and canada and the uk too. <\n\nBut yeah, no examples named.\n\nThe Low Countries and New Zealand are just a few of the white western countries that run a decent welfare system for their people, and look at their crime rates compared to the US’. \n\nAnd I know Reddit shrieks at any positive mention of them, but look at China. We wonder why they’re beating us but they have a complex high-speed rail system, formidable antitrust teeth coupled with actual enforcement, and similarly aggressive action on climate change. \n\nIt’s pretty very simple math equation but US hegemony is so dedicated to the military industrial complex and its ruling class that it can’t solve it.", "r/iamatotalpieceofshit", "yes, I'm aware. But the comment you were arguing with was about squid game, which came from Korea. The video this thread is about is also from Korea. So that person was pointing out that the show was based on real issues facing Koreans. And yet you decided to try to start an argument because other countries also have poverty.", "They also always point to China or North Korea that are communist only in name. It's akin to pointing to Nazi Germany as an example of why Socialism is bad You can always tell which people have zero fucking clue about the tenets of communism.", "Many cities tolerate this to a point. I lived in a city in which if one of those vendors saw another moving in, they'd kick them out. The city wouldn't bother one person, but they'd get rid of a camp. The retail stores were getting upset. There's a store paying property, retail, employee taxes, employee benefits and right outside is a full flea market with no overhead and people have to walk past it to get to the store. Homelessness is awful. I hope nobody believes this is a good solution. We should be angry with politicians, not city employees.", "No, that's in addition to the two I told you about, you absolute bellend. There about a dozen operating currently. If you care to examine reality instead of your biases you will inevitably conclude that it seems to be working very well. The Zapatistas for example have higher GDP, better health and education outcomes, and better women's rights than surrounding capitalist regions.", "Yes, because poor people should lift themselves by the shoelaces, but also the only people who should be allowed to lift themselves by their shoelaces by doing business are people who are rich enough to afford commercial spaces in the city centre of Seoul. So yeah, fuck that poor grandma for being poor. \n \nAs for poor people - where do you want them to go? You do realise that moving homeless people out doesn't make them less homeless, it just punishes them for inadvertently reminding people that homelessness exists. But yeah, fuck the homeless for not having homes to stay in.", "You in fact do, you can protest but ultimately to appeal before the judge and or take the court case to higher court, you would in fact need to have a law degree (someone in the process would - just to make sure all of your filing are correct). I guess to start, why don’t you research this specific law in Korea, read through the text and tell me if it’s specifically unfair and going against peoples rights.", "China does the same thing to anybody selling anything without a permit. It’s very disheartening to watch poor farmers having everything taken by the government. \n\nCulture no longer mean much in Asia.", "What’s the solution to homelessness then?\n\nAnd wouldn’t you say the government overspends compared to privately owned?\nCheck out [Plunder!](https://www.amazon.com/Plunder-Employee-Treasuries-Controlling-Bankrupting/dp/0984275207)\n And [No They Can’t](https://www.amazon.com/They-Cant-Government-Fails-But-Individuals/dp/1451640951)", "I disagree. Actually I am quite certain that the question of \"what is life\" \"why are we here\" comes from our brain itself. And just like explaining how locomotion works to a goldfish wouldn't work because the goldfish lacks the mental capacity to tackle that question. If someone straight up told you what the universe was, what reality was, we would be incapable of understanding due to the capacity of our brain. With the augment of our brain though I think we will start to understand reality on a different level - for example I explained an idea to you and didn't have to compress the thought into words; how different would that idea and the subsequent conversation produce different results of our understanding. I'm like 99% certain of this; Consciousness happened to be an emergent property from evolution but we are merely touching the surface of what exists. So too, with the universe, the bounds of our capabilities seems to forever bind us to this portion unless we can wrap consciousness in a massless package and send it. We don't see any phenomenon that can break the laws of physics. That may not be true forever, but between advances in consciousness vs space; I'd be the next few hundred years will be the exploration of consciousness via augmented brains vs. exploration of the stars", "They are trying to get there new set of players for the next game", "The kicker here is that if the government wants to be so busy body, to force society in a direction they want and have things looks neater, they could almost certainly spend the money they used for these city workers to bounce and dispose of these people's goods to build nicer looking stalls for street merchants. Even something simple, just to make it look more official and less \"why you got all this shit on the ground\".\n\nHeck with letting folk do what they want though, the law don't care if no one is getting hurt", "Also, people are so overworked they end up in the sandwich generation, financially providing for both their children and their parents. A lot don't want/can't afford the squeeze and decide not to have children, which leads them to have no care system for when they are elderly.", "Feels like most jobs. You build the company up, get a small raise then when everyone at the top is paid well you sink lower into inflation until you have nothing.", ">Bad analogies, jumping off a bridge is just a silly example that only conveys \"sometimes civil disobedience is called for\"; okay? But that isn't the case here.\n>\n\nOf course it is. It's a bad law designed to punish the desperate. \n\nFor people like you it's a matter of being slightly inconvenienced for people with nothing the cops taking their belongings is a matter of life and death.", "Wow what a novel RP account name, you're leaning into your character there", "Capitalism in general, it's just more pronounced in Korea due to the comparative lack of safety nets (with respect to other rich countries).\n\nI have relatives in Canada and in Korea who rely on monthly welfare cheques and the difference is usually about $700-800 plus our quasi-universal healthcare (Koreans have public insurance). I'll add that the cost of living is substantially higher here so it's not really that much of a gap.\n\nThat is all that really separates us and there's nothing to prevent these meagre concessions from being taken away in either country because there's nothing codified in any capitalist country's constitution that prevents vulnerable people from being completely thrown under the bus to secure profits when shit hits the fan. Canada's limited time CERB and Biden's one-time Covid stimulus cheques are very revealing in that they show how hard it is to gain meagre concessions and how easy they are to take away.\n\nIn liberal democracies we rely on many concessions for some to have a decent quality of life. Some countries give more than others and some have more robust protections for the working class, but even in cases like those, it's conditional and many still fall through the cracks.\n\nYou could make a \"Squid Game\" for any liberal democracy, the difference is that, in my experience, Koreans talk about their economic problems more openly through art and popular media whereas westerners have been conditioned to consider it taboo to discuss structural problems with systems, instead we fixate on individuals. That is very intentional.", "I don't disagree, but it also breaks down when you get to the rules that rich people are expected to break. Cheat your taxes a little bit? Hey, everyone does it. Undervalue your home/car/whatever? No big deal, they expect you to do that. Take advantage of government programs that you shouldn't really qualify for? Well who can blame you for seeking a leg up? \n \nSell merchandise on the sidewalk without the proper permit? Get fucked, bum.", "/u/blame_the-commies is an almost comically bad handle for an obvious troll.\n\nBegone", "> ~~Korea~~ The ENTIRE WORLD is frustrated with the increasing disparities out there.\n\nftfy", "Lol, I too was confused by their comment. Maybe the Western counrty Saudi Arabia should be renamed Saudi America for clarity.", "Sounds like capitalism", "What having a US backed right wing dictator for decades does to a mf.", "People use \"Western\" as a byword for \"Capitalism\" or \"First-World\". Not defending the usage, just explaining.", "I never said end criticism of capitalism, one of the first things I said is that it isn't flawless. People are playing mental gymnastics here though. They are saying \"this system sucks and another one is better\" without outright saying it. If there are parts of the system that would havr produced an alternate outcome for these people, then they should say so. But the reality is, they don't know what decisions these people have made in their lives to end up where they are, so the default is \"must be capitalism\".\nIf there is nuance and context is needed, then can you really so readily point at the system? Again, not saying it's perfect or without flaw, but sometimes a persons situation is a direct result of life decisions. Not a system keeping them down.\nYou can look at the food lines in a communist country and know its a direct result of its system. \nI only use communism as a frame of reference, because well, it's pretty black and white.", "Yes. I totally understand.", "How exactly are you “building the company up” with your small entry-level position?", "Everyone wanting to use the overpass, everyone paying for a stall at the flea market.", "...Unless you're too poor to have the \"boot straps\" in the first place.", "Why would you sell stuff at the flea market when you can do it on a street corner and make more money", "Where I'm from, grannies are usually left alone and the result, surprisingly, isn't an entire metropolis being overrun by billions of grandmas. The result is that the grandma stays there. If the city centre is on a busy day, there might be another grandma 1km further. \n \nAnd it simply is the wrong thing to focus on. Some company taking down a park to make a mega-mall? Normal. Historic streets in the city centre being 90% occupied by cars instead of being pedestrianised? Of course, saying otherwise would be heretical! A granny taking up a square metre? Outrageous.", "its west if you go far enough", "I’m not gonna read your books about Unions = Bad and Mustache Man takes Manhattan when the solutions are socialized healthcare and a far higher rate of unionization, among many other socialized policies. \n\nWhat are these texts supposed to do for someone working a minimum wage job that has $100K in medical debt? Tell them to nut up and be an entrepreneur? What exactly is the rate of successful entrepreneurship in the US?", "yeah but i said it in korean. its like saying porque no los dos but in korean. you know like the original joke?", "France and pretty much most of northern Europe excluding the UK have good welfare systems", "They were warned. We need to do this in the US. Homeless abuse the hell out of the system.", ">disorder and nuisance\n\nOh no, wouldn't want to inconvenience the people with their attempt not to starve and freeze to death in their old age.", "The price to pay to not have people camping out in the street selling shit stuff and begging. \n\nIt's sad but there's a reason for this and it's a good reason.", "> I'm like 99% certain of this; Consciousness happened to be an emergent property from evolution but we are merely touching the surface of what exists. \n\nAnd you're encroaching into my actual job and expertise so I suggest you take care here. What you are discussing is memetics and various other realms of information theory, but mixing it with a big dose of 'woo.' I fear that it would take too long to untangle the correct from the incorrect in your impressions of 'consciousness' - but suffice to say that consciousness IS an illusion.\n\nYou might be correct in saying there are things that our brains cannot currently comprehend and may need to be augmented, but society is itself a brain augment. In fact, humanity's brains got smaller and simpler when we learned to offload knowledge to society, so you may be barking entirely up the wrong tree and we may, in fact become a collective intelligence - which is what our trajectory has been pointing towards for hundreds of thousands of years.\n\nSo, in all probability, human brains are going to get simpler but society itself will become more complex, integrating machine intelligence rather than human untelligence.", "No. No one anywhere in this comments thread has implied that communism is better and multiple people now have told you their goal is improving capitalism. You are seeing what you want to see. And for some reason what you want to see is that people like communism when they don't.", "hahahahaha", ">Well when the only 2 two prominent economic schools of thought\n\n* wrong assumption - there are more than 2 schools of thought on economics, and we are discussing economic systems (captialism v communism) not government systems (republic vs autocracy)\n* bad premise - assuming that the only alternative to vulture capitalism is property-free marxism\n* irrelevant supposition - deflecting from capitalism bad to communism bad is natural since the alternative to capitalism is communism (there are plenty of other alternatives)\n\n> Market or Marxist\n\nnot even how these things are defined within their own contexts let alone in the realm of economics. The whole sentence is like a fox news kneejerk. \n\nit was a really dumb sentence and there isn't much there to indicate a critical thought was ever applied to the assumptions it presents in the first place. It is a profoundly foolish but also profoundly confident sentence that is jam packed with ignorance.\n\nYou also could have made a point, but you also decided to attack the comment and not the content. I respect that as a rhetorical tool, but only if you can follow up on it.\n\nPerhaps you could help me understand what nuance or consideration you saw in OPs post that made you sure he was amenable to reason or cared about economics, or perhaps you could correct my understanding of the situation?", "There is a book \"The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind\" by Julian Jaynes. This book is a little older and points towards the era you reference. It is an interesting read though, one of large suppositions is that humans weren't \"conscious\" til' about 3000 years ago. \n\nThe author gives a lot of supporting evidence but we'll never really know obviously.\n\nOne thought I have been tending towards is that just because we figure out HOW something works doesn't just instantly make it less amazing. \n\nYou say \"already know that consciousness is merely a series of feedback loops in the brain..,\" and that could be true I'm not up to date on these things. But how does that detract from the incredulousness, the amazingness of the conscious experience.\n\nKnowing HOW rarely detracts from why and even if how is solved there is plenty of mystery still to be questioned, whether you believe it or not.", "Ohh my... how chinese of the koreans!", "Could be worse... Remember what happened to that one dude allegedly selling loose cigarettes in Staten Island?", "Because there are only two possible options, obviously.", "How does one get college when most degrees that one can feel passion for are \"liberal arts\"? How does one get certifications and experience when the country is utterly failing to provide livable jobs nor a basic public tenet of health to its populus? \n\nAll too easy to point at the circumstances in everyone's lives and sum it up to a cocktail of four things. Must be related to ego, or something.", "Where you from? Having seen this in Mexico and others parts, when sidewalks and centers get overrun by street vendors (because more people than just grannies will do this) it devalues that entire area. Commercial spaces are worth less, and overall it creates bad congestion and litter. It becomes hard to do anything unless you forcefully remove all the people and financially revamp the area. Laws like these are generally in place to stop that situation from forming, even if it would take months or years to do so. But please, research that law and tell me which part is the unfair part.", "according to what law?", "“I learned Korean which made the whole thing pretty easy.”", "You're not wrong. Squid Game didn't feel 'profound' to me, but more like a (I guess you could say almost literal) slap in the face.", "Not an argument, as much as everyone downvoting me wants it to be. Pretty civil conversation start honestly otherwise. My point being having an upper-class lord over the under-class into unethical games of chance isn't a metaphor for Korean culture, it's just capitalism...", "You're the peak on the Dunning Kruger scale", "There's no accounting for taste.", "Creator didn’t even get rich from squid games.", "Well heres the thing, I got dragged into this whole communism vs capitalism conversation. I was simply pointing out to the emotional mess that he didnt understand what the guy he was replying to was saying.\n\nSomeone above said \"this is the universal experience of people without privilege living under capitalism\", which is a very broad and inaccurate statement. What do you think it implies?", "Are they confiscating their goods or just picking everything up and moving them out of the area, and giving it back afterwards?", "In case you haven't noticed, he's not looking to learn. He's just trying to wind you up. Classic Conservative tactic.\n\nWhen you eventually actually snap, he'll screenshot it and post it somewhere with a \"libtard snowflake MELTED DOWN!\" caption.", "Star Trek has specifically made multiple analogies and pointed towards capitalist resource allocation as terrible.", "you're the peak on the reddit larper scale", "Seems odd for a country that is looking at bringing in universal basic income, they've even gone as far as testing it and seen a huge success", "\"Oh no, bad things penetrated my sheltered bubble! \"NEGATIVITYYY\"", "More like Oppa Grandma Style...\n\nVery depressing video.", "yeah because thats what i am/what i do right? it must be! i must be trolling, yes thats it :)) jsut another ben shapiro conservative looking to own the libs and put it on my parler page", "Less brutal capitalism more opportunity from social programs, not just handouts, would help this person. No doubt. But I wasn't excusing the government's part. Just addressing your question. The government should, if anything, support this type of thing with community flea markets and assistance getting these people established... not garbage bag their belongings and boot them. \n\nI don't know what they did with the garbage bags of stuff, or the old person, afterwards though... hopefully something compassionate.", "I dont live in Korea, I see that as the people of korea's responsibility to handle their country the way they see fit. \n\nNow when it comes to my local area, people sell things on the street all the time without government intervention, and the only time they get involved is when they (the government) want a part of the pie, not that it worries about the well being of those selling the items, noo it just wants taxes, ahh capitalism and its fine fine cares for society.", "Who are these people just discovering capitalism also exists in SK?", "With all due respect, there are some economic differences between Europe, South Korea and Mexico. \n \nAnd even with the large volume of such vendors in Mexico, I doubt that removing them does much good for the economy. And if commercial spaces were that cheap, they would've bought it, at least just so that they can do business when it rains.", "How is any company “building up” without low level workers doing the work?", "First I’d ask, what are you doing working a job meant for teenagers and early 20 somethings?\n\nSecond, if their medical bills are because of their self indulgence, then they’ll get no sympathy from me. \n\nAnd I wasn’t talking about entrepreneurship.", "👍\n\nYou do you, Booboo.", "It ok. We be friend now.", "Any position in a company \"builds the company up\" or they would fire you\n\nNow are you motivated citizen to be one of their top producers?", "When there's thousands of them, and thousands more who could take their job and perform just as well, they are all effectively fungible. That's the hard truth but if you want to be compensated well for your work, don't be replaceable.", "Lmao, you seriously have no clue", "Ah, sociopathic, heartless piece of shit. Typical of the right-leaning \"hustlers\" that believe life is a magic cocktail of choices and flavors/derivatives thereof because it's simply too hard and requires too much complex thought to even wonder how a homeless person \"abuses\" the system in the first place. Because you fixate on the individual -- instead of the system that perpetuates these behaviours and problems directly.\n\nCapitalism trains you to survive at any costs; \n\n\"eat objective microwave mush if ya gotta eat cheap, pull yourself up and take any job necessary, take any advantages and benefits you can to save money and work up..\"\n\nBut when these people do exactly that, because either their circumstances or whatever fairy-tale \"reason\" you make up about not pulling his bootstraps to his asshole; it's simply not good enough because they aren't generating a surplus profit for a middleman, or giving tax dollars to a government that should be using those funds to provide basic care and amenities for it's people at birth to prevent this from happening, or to build much more housing/infrastructure to aid it.\n\nInstead, you water it down and attempt to justify it because homeless people bother you and take up resources, in your humble opinion. When corporations and politicians steal thousands in tax breaks, CEOs stash billions offshore; something more heinous and abusive \"to the system\" than any homeless population combined or even overall, you instead focus on the disadvantaged and truly exploited in our system.\n\nThat's why this line of thinking is sociopathic.", "👍\n\nGreat retort, Yogi Bear.", "I don’t think the government needs to “support” with flea markets etc. Let it come up on its own. \n\nProbably just took it to redistribute or throw away haha", "Well perhaps a proper solution would be to address what is causing these people's ailments and solve them. But agh! That requires spending tax dollars on useful projects and making the powerful members of our society pay their due!\n\nOoooh NOOO...", "Hand ✋", "Yup. \n\nSolving this issues is taxing the rich. It's not letting the poor beg in the streets.", "There are places, they were selling in an area they're not permitted to.", "Because it's illegal...what this grandma is doing is no different than a homeless person setting up tent in a heavily traffic area....", "Well the important thing is now that these homeless people have been robbed of their meager possessions they're no longer homeless...", "Sucks to be them, if they can't afford it, then why keep them around.", "Just pointing out that Obesity costs the US $190B. \n\nSorry if people got locked into an entry level position 🤷‍♂️ \n\nThere will always be people at the bottom.", "Have you been to any country on the Asian continent?", "Reminder that sociopathy and mental dysfunctions related to empathy and related-reasoning are relatively common. Just scroll down!", "Nice country.", "Haha you're a piece of shit. This is such a scummy thing to say.", "That's not true.", "Oh blow it out your ass, it's poor old people who probably don't have too many options. If society isn't gonna pay their living expenses for the rest of their lives and isn't going to allow them to eek by like this, what are they gonna do?", "Solving the issue is dismantling institutional power that these corporations have, putting them under worker ownership to keep the executives and major shareholders entirely accountable and putting the redistributed capital into programs that bolster infrastructure [PUBLIC housing/real estate], public health and green technologies.\n\nNow you have more tax revenue from holding the corporations completely accountable to it's workers, you have properly funded and well-taken care of social programs for educating, housing and feeding your populus which is returned in net efficiency and production from having a well-taken care of population and revenue generation/power generation from green technologies; especially nuclear.", ">This law does nothing other than to punish a poor person, for nobody's benefit.\n\nThe law cleans up walkways and keeps them from becoming disorderly messes, for the benefit of all people walking down the street.\n\n> \"hey, I don't like it either, but the law is the law\" argument - because it's a lie.\n\nI never said this; I think it is a good law, but I think old people should not find themselves in a position where they need to sell merchandise on the street. This is why Social Security laws exist, because people apparently suck at planning for the future unless encouraged to do so.", "👉😎👉", "They're not, south Korea has the 2nd highest suicide rate in the world purely due to this, well it did when I wrote a journal on the topic 4 years ago.", "Not according to republican talking head chucklefucks. To them, it means \"communism bad\" somehow. We could generate infinite energy if only we could harness the mental gymnastics going on in their heads.", "very impressive :))", "Because a flea market is a designated area to do this. If people were allowed to sell anywhere, they wouldn't have the \"advantage\" you mentioned, as the street would be crowded with other vendors, but because it's not allowed, it's not. She chose to take that risk, and now we see the results.", "No I work and pay taxes. The people who leach off my tax dollars are the scum bags.", "Old people being destitute and breaking the law to sell items on the street to make ends meet is not happening in the same way in America.", "it implies that capitalism has some significant flaws and is a highly inequitable system. I think both of those things can be empirically demonstrated. I do not think that means that they're USSR loving tankies, which seems to be your conclusion.", "the kind of reality you don't see in kdramas :(\n\nor maybe a Gumiho will come & protect the old grandma.", "I keep telling people that I think technology is far outreaching sociology. Tribes people in mud huts have cell phone, but no running water or grid electricity. As tech gets exponentially more consumer available, the consumer range widens and consumers as a whole become stupider.", "No, pulling yourself up by your bootstraps, not \"pulling up your bootstraps.\" The intended analogy of the phrase is that you can fly by pulling yourself up into the sky by your own bootstraps.\n\nIt was literally coined to be a satirical joke, it's something that's impossible to do. It's like \"have your cake and eat it, too\" or \"ride a camel through the eye of a needle.\" People can't \"pull themselves up by their bootstraps.\"", "I mean, you might as well kill them because you just want them to die with extra steps.", "What? They're still homeless?\n\nShit, I guess they'll still be living on the street scrounging for money then.", "The great line from Bong Joon-Ho “I realized we all lived in the same country, called Capitalism”", "The phrase is pulling yourself up BY your bootstraps, and was originally used to make fun of people. Because it's literally impossible to pick yourself up by your bootstraps.", "How about you focus on finding solutions instead of embracing a status quo that is broken.\n\nYou want homeless to setup tents in the street and walkways? That creates more problems in addition to their homelessness. This is an unacceptable status quo.\n\nA good society finds a way to sustainably accommodate people whose lives have fallen apart and set them along a path to start putting it back together.", "Literally every person in every company everywhere is replaceable. Level means nothing. CEOs are filtered out, VPs, partners. Everyone is replaceable.", "Unfortunately the bootstraps have also been confiscated.", "Everyone reading your replies should understand yours is a willfully cruel ideology. A better world is definitely possible, and it’s without you.", "For a lot of people they're not angry at the disparity, they're embarrassed that they're not on the other side.", "Well, as grim as it is to say, it sounds like the issue is taking care of itself then.", "I know.", "The phrase isn't pulling up your bootstraps. It's pulling \\yourself\\ up by the bootstraps, i.e. elevating yourself off the ground by pulling the back of your shoes. It's a violation of the law of physics. (And a bit of a bizarre way of describing people, too.)", "didn't know this what you wanted to see in kdramas, I will pass this info along", "You misspelled robbery", "Why exactly? Do you prefer your tax dollars going to endless wars in afghanistan that we would have \"totally won one day bro I swear\".\n\nYou're a brainless, spineless Trump supporter with closeted bigoted mindsets that can't critically think for himself. Every little thing you comment or post is just parroted from some right wing muppet paid by shadowy corporations to tow the line. What about the babykilling fuckface soldiers that leech my tax dollars to blow up sand because my \"freedumbz!\" ended up in the Middle East? Maybe if we spent more money we would have been \"less woke\" and beat the bad guys? Wait, I though Bush said we won! You're over here talking about homeless people being leeches..\n\nMan maybe we should talk about the dead soldiers who absorb cash because their families get the delicious tax revenue from having their proud dad learn how to run over people in the middle east, or because he hit a fucking IED while chewing crayola.\n\nTalking about \"leeches\" when you can't even spell the word. Go tie a ribbon around an oaktree, chump.", "i know you know but what am i?", "> It's a bad law designed to punish the desperate.\n\nNo, it's a good law designed to keep public areas orderly.\n\nThe real problem is why some people are desperate to the point of needing to break this law. Fix that rather than loosen standards for public areas.\n\n>For people like you it's a matter of being slightly inconvenienced for people with nothing the cops taking their belongings is a matter of life and death.\n\nIt starts as a \"slight inconvenience\", then explodes into disorder and chaos. Look at how places like skid row started, public standards were loosened in the name of compassion and mercy. Now you have blocks upon blocks of a city covered in human feces, diseases, drugs, and degeneracy.\n\nPublic areas need orderly standards, and people need assistance to help them avoid violating those standards. Both are needed. It isn't either/or as the black and white thinking of modern day seems to make everyone believe.", "The point is every person is supposed to have a sandwich period of their lives, you progress from one period to another like a lifecycle. It just so happens that if the cycle is broken, you're fucked.", "Funny how that helps understanding Parasite and Squid Game...", "Don't think you understand the phrase. Just take the L.", "You're a ringing endorsement of that sentiment.", "Sure, if you want to be reductive about it. But replacing a CEO is way harder than replacing an entry-level worker, and their compensation reflects this.", "Maybe those poor people should get a job and buy one bootstrap at a time.", ">They are saying \"this system sucks and another one is better\" without outright saying it.\n\nHow can you be so sure of that? You act like you can read minds.", "I mean, that describes big swaths of the US as well. Have you been to Appalachia or rural Arkansas lately?", "The solution is not allowing ad hoc messes in public areas.\n\nThe solution is a social safety net to help elderly meet their needs.\n\nDon't let reckless compassion make more problems. Use your brain along with your heart.", "lol woman. think again", "Nothing better than eating a chicken that woke up that same morning.", "Contest it to him, not me.", "Ah yes socialism in motion", "Bern Sherpharo.", "First, this is in South Korea, go look up their laws.\n\nSecond, at least in America there is a concept of criminal asset forfeiture where property used during a crime can be seized by the state.", "Sounds like the planet needs less Lawful Good and more Chaotic Good to actually fix shit.", "If you say a Prius sucks, do you mean other vehicles are better or are you suggesting \"it would be better if..\"", "I love South Korean films and movies. And I love looking for the recurring themes and tropes. It's great.", "Corporations tend to run their governments in capitalist societies. This is ESPECIALLY true in SK (Samsung).", "Similar thing is happening where I live too. A lot of gentrification is happening in the city which drives the older housing out as they can no longer afford the higher housing costs that come with it.", "Capitalism in a nutshell. If rich people can't make money off you, then they'll use their power to crush you", "Yeah, I was going to say. This is an issue I most first world countries for sure. Neoliberalism is ruining this planet.", "So let's take their shit and fuck'em up! That always solves the problem.", "\"And you're encroaching into my actual job and expertise so I suggest you take care here.\"\n\nlol - so scared. What is your job expertise (i'm quaking with fear to your superior intellect) Please untangle any web of \"misunderstanding\". What specifically do you disagree with? I'm totally open.\n\n\"In fact, humanity's brains got smaller and simpler when we learned to offload knowledge to society, so you may be barking entirely up the wrong tree and we may, in fact become a collective intelligence - which is what our trajectory has been pointing towards for hundreds of thousands of years.\"\n\nIf you are talking about how spatial reasoning and short term memory have been decreasing in size, there are also other portions of our brain that have been increasing in complexity and size. Our ability to abstract, the language centers of our brain, the social centers - all have continued a marked increase in complexity. So to use this one reduction in the brain as a basis for your theory we will become a collective intelligence (which we already are) - is short-cited and not well thought out.\n\n\"So, in all probability, human brains are going to get simpler but society itself will become more complex, integrating machine intelligence rather than human untelligence.\"\n\nI think the divergence, that I hear at least, is basically your understanding of the current/future state of AI and the path to the singularity. Checkout Superintelligence by Nick Bostrom. A \"collective intelligence\" (which humanity arguably already is) as you state would be obsolete to any even near moden AI. The fundamental premise of Bostrom's idea is if homo sapien function as agents each agent has a fundamental output problem (for example think of the bandwidth with which information is communicated via speech vs. the depth of resolution of thought or even video - that output is the fundamental limitation of homo sapien versus artificial intelligence) and for homo sapiens to continue to be relevant even within the next 200 years it will require a merging of the brain to enhance output. Thats what companies like neuralink are working on.\n\nSo back to the original point that started this; will humanity explore the stars or consciousness - preferably both. But its likely given the limitations of physics the next few hundred years we will explore consciousness first. Again, if someone told you in words what the universe is, its quite unlikely the modern homosapien brain would be able to comprehend what it was. But an augmented brain would likely be able to be far more potent and grasp levels of understanding to a depth and resolution that we currently are unable to. Once more a augmented brain is likely on the horizon and indeed vast strides already exist. Today exists the technology to get an implant to think a text message and have it appear, to think anything you can do with alexa and have it happen if you have an implant. Whereas for the stars we still do not have the ability to even go .0001% the speed of light which even if we traveled would not allow us to explore the stars within our lifetime. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nI still havent heard the basis for your thoughts; just that \"this is your field\" - go on - lets hear it. Like I said, I am totally open", "Without me? What’s that supposed to mean?haha\n\nAnd cruel how? \n\nMaybe obese people should stop shoveling food into their faces; the people on r/progresspics seem to be happy with the results 🤷‍♂️ \n\nAnd when it comes to entry-level positions, shouldn’t they be a stepping stone? Learn an actual skill or a trade maybe? 🧐", "It's not supposed to feel like an insurmountable squeeze though. There just isn't enough wages for most people to financially support themselves, children, and their parents. I don't have parents and haven't since I was 20. I still don't want to bring children into this economy. I'll be able to save up to care for myself as I pocket a lot into retirement. But, a lot of people are in a worse situation than I am.", "To be fair, this is exactly what they busted their ass off to protect, so they're getting what they wanted", "Ok, do you have sustainable solutions? No, you don't. If you had, you wouldn't need to move out homeless people because there would be none. \n \nBut currently, you are talking about kicking out homeless people who don't have another magical sustainable solution. \n \nDon't jump out of a plane before getting a parachute, don't kick homeless people out before you have a \"sustainable plan\".\n \nThis isn't \"embracing a status quo\". This is knowing that the status quo is real and has to be changed. You want to pretend that a solution already exists and, as such, nothing has to change and we can keep kicking homeless people out. You want to have those people out of sight while imagining they went on to live on a farm upstate.", "When I saw that one guy running around almost like he was in a panic I figured he was one of them trying to save their possessions. Nope, just a worker that's super eager to further destroy people who are already down on their luck, I guess. Must be good to love your job that much.", "> it's poor old people who probably don't have too many options. If society isn't gonna pay their living expenses for the rest of their lives and isn't going to allow them to eek by like this, what are they gonna do?\n\nThis is the root problem. That is what should be solved.\n\nOf course, government moves slowly and the people need to get pissed off at videos like this in order to light a fire under their legislators to actually get any of these real fixes done.\n\nI think incidents like the above are the reasoning behind why America implemented the Social Security system, because too many elderly were destitute.", "For the most part you’re right. Except for companies right now struggling to find any low level employees and folding up left and right.", "I mean just because something isn't hidden deep in layers of subtext doesn't mean it's insulting. Sometimes things need to be said painfully clear.", "Could have been set in America or any other number of places, but yeah... this is a rampant problem in south Korea as well. Good to know other people in the world are suffering with a huge gap between the mega-rich and everyone else with people at the bottom struggling to survive.", "na", "I don't know, there's not enough information in the statement \"Prius sucks\" alone to make that specific determination", "> The people collecting money for a stall at the flea market\n\nFTFY", "What a political response.", "These workers really have no seoul.", "Kind of also causation. A Korean wouldn't have been inspired to create Squid Game if it wasn't for the issues in Korea. It doesn't really matter that other places in the world have a similar problem.", "\"You're not profitable, you don't deserve to exist\" is the mindset I'm getting here after thinking about it a little.", "Yea if I want to sell Snake Oil on the side of the street that's my business!!!", "Do you buy snake oil regularly?", "Most of your success has to do with the safety net you have around you. \n \nCan you quit your current job and go to school without incurring an insane amount of debt? \n \nDid you have the support at home to explore your interests and develop academically? \n \nDo you have time in the evenings to devote to working on a professional certification after work? \n \nIf you have kids how are you going to work enough to get payed enough to support them and who is taking care of the childcare while you work on another degree or even just brush up on skills for a job interview? \n \nNo one makes it on their own. Yes it takes work, but the amount of work someone has to do to “make it” goes way down the better their financial situation is.", "I read that in the voice of Ted Lasso.", "That's the point. Instead of protecting and supporting the citizens, the government is enforcing the interests of the corporations. What you're pointing out is exactly the failure of capitalism.", "Political? That's just how language works, you can't be serious", "Do you think all fiction has a real world causation?\n\nMaybe I should reflect more on the deeper meaning of Fast and the Furious 10.", "Fuck permits, I want to sell expired hot dogs!", "Why do they confiscate though and not just make them pack up and leave?", "Because we live in a society? You don't get to open a fruit stand in the middle of the street because you thought you can get more business. Grow up.", "If you think this is anywhere near as bad as how the north treats its citizens, your opinion is shit.", "Yes! All those entry level workers taking all the risk to start a company. Taking on the debt, purchasing equipment and property. Paying the EPA for studies prior to a build out. Oh how about paying all the insurance required to have a business all so they can give someone like you a piece of the pie.", "I forgot about this. That was ridiculous.", "Yup, I don't think any country on earth has gone through such a wrenching transformation as South Korea. It's really living in two different centuries at once... though with such a low birthrate I think the country is facing a very weird future.", "Star trek was definitely anti-capitalism - but capitalism in a finite bound system is definitely preferable to centrally planned systems. It just needs safeguards...", "Capitalism is when old people die on the streets eating car food", "You can read San Fransicko and that’ll give you an idea of how I think we should handle the open air drug camp situation. \n\nPeople eat mush in capitalist societies and people don’t eat and starve to death in socialist societies. People in open air drug camps are taking up huge swaths of resources. We spend 6 figures per homeless person in major cities on the west coast. If we give them their own place on their own without sobering them up they over dose. People like you are the reason social workers are being sent to deal with schizophrenics wielding machetes. \n\nThere’s millions of jobs available right now. We should be putting the carrot in front of the stick to deal with open air drug camps. Your side is literally run by anarchists who are major impediments to the well being of people on the street.", "Can Americans ever talk about anything about other countries without bringing up their own country for 5 seconds?", "Sounds like Shanghai moving from the 90s --> 2010s\n\nSame exact story, different city.\n\nBuild inconvenient malls, force street vendors to move to malls, gentrify the whole place, price out the locals, replace vendors in malls with brand name stores, rinse and repeat.", "There are areas where people can set up shop, and that this area is explicitly not one of them - they were probably given many warnings, like \"if I come back and it's still here, it's getting confiscated\" and they chose to risk losing their things. That said, I've lived in Seoul, and the street vendors were generally really sweet and well behaved. I hope they figure something out", "For public servants with such a thorough lack of conscience, there are no doubt many positions open in Pyongyang.", "No, its just taxing the rich a little more to pay for some schemes to take care of old people. Nowhere needs socialism.", "Didn’t know squid game was a documentary.", "\"I'm just doing my job\"", "In Vietnam, my aunt has to buy a small plot/stall and the tax man comes around every so often to collect, often skimming off the top himself so he raises the tax certain days claiming that the tax has went up.", "There's no point trying to reason with these idiots. Almost always privileged little kids who had life handed over to them on a silver platter, chronically unable to understand anyone who hadn't.", "Scenario for you:\n\nYou're a street vendor. You see a very crowded street. You walk up to the street and there's a sign that says, \"Street vendors are not allowed. Street vendor goods will be confiscated.\"\n\nYou decide to setup anyway. Police come and confiscate your goods. Who's at fault here?", "Parasite was a foreign film that didn't expect to get the buzz it did, same thing with Squid Game. Those stories got by on their merit alone, there is a reason for it, the themes resonate. Art reflects life, it doesn't matter how \"subtle\" or blatant it trying/required to be.", "Because if you want to do it legaly, you probably need to pay taxes or rent (public space) or even have a bussines registered, so fuck everyone doing that, right?", "kinda overselling it with the NK comparison, but south korea had the heavy capitalism influence... what you're seeing is late stage capitalism.", "Camel?", ">Ok, do you have sustainable solutions? No, you don't. If you had, you wouldn't need to move out homeless people because there would be none.\n\nAmerica implemented Social Security to prevent the very problem in OP, and it worked. So yes, there is a sustainable solution to the problem here. (Of course, SS in America needs fixed slightly due to some bad math, but it generally works).\n\n>But currently, you are talking about kicking out homeless people who don't have another magical sustainable solution.\n\nAs for the homeless problem, American cities have homeless shelters and services where people can be fed and housed. They should be removed from begging on the streets and placed into these services.\n\nThe services could be further improved by streamlining perhaps with government housing or mental institutions.\n\n>Don't jump out of a plane before getting a parachute, don't kick homeless people out before you have a \"sustainable plan\".\n\nThe parachute already exists, but it requires tandem diving and some people prepare solo diving even if their parachute is tattered with holes in it.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>This is knowing that the status quo is real and has to be changed.\n\nYou've offered no solutions besides letting the problem persist and grow on the streets. California is seeing first hand how well this works.", "I mean most people lose the context since it's a foreign music video, but [Gangnam Style is, in part, a parody of the ultra-rich.](https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/08/gangnam-style-dissected-the-subversive-message-within-south-koreas-music-video-sensation/261462/)", "It’s sick and hard to watch. Seems like when ANY city gets lenient on this they come in droves. It could be worse. Could’ve just had a white van pick them up and never see them again. They picked a bad spot and they aren’t dumb they know better. Welcome to homelessness. It’s not for the weak and old. They need help. This is a hardcore solution to a hardcore problem that the world has.", "Homeless people are constantly being harrassed by the police, sometimes their whole livelihoods (which are at most an old tent or something) get destroyed over night.", "It's not a competition. It's okay to acknowledge the flaws in ones own country while being confronted by the flaws of another.", "Man, people love to put arguments into other people's mouths. It sure is easy to be right when you claim others hold ridiculous ideas!\n\nThe solution here is a social safety net to prevent old people from being destitute. The solution is not just letting anything happen on public streets in the name of compassion.", "Very cool, I'll check out the book. Have you ever heard of this guy\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\\_Yn7QAS5Wpw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yn7QAS5Wpw)\n\nJust like some savants are able to \"see\" the calculations of really large numbers; he was able to \"see\" mathematical formulae that governed things we are just now discovering and things to come. This idea that people could have their brains wired in a way where they could \"see\" something we all were incapable of has been a fundamental driver for me to realize the resolution for which we see consciousness is dictated by how our brain is connected. And sentience/consciousness was an emergent property from our evolution. And finally that if these people could see something that is real in the real world like an equation that governs how blackholes function; what would we be able to \"see\" if our brains were wired in a different way. \"why we are here\" can be answered with increased capacity for consciousness IMO", "This isn't an issue of house prices. The same thing occurred/is occuring when I live and the older generations are infinitely more well off as a result.", "If anything, heavy-handed dismantlement of entrepreneurship by government thugs and overregulation of \"permissible sales venues\" are instances of socialism in action.\n\nNot to mention, the anti-elder sentiment and anti-traditional sentiment (both left-wing concepts) that are being pushed onto youth in modern Korea are what are depriving these elders from being cared for by their children.", "> Let it come up on its own.\n\nClearly that isn't happening.", "Elderly in Korea, generally, do not have to be homeless. They won't live like kings, but the government has programs that should give them enough money to live in what is called a goshiwon here. While not luxurious, it's like a commercial dorm, and you'd get a small room, with a bed, closet, TV, desk, shared bathroom/laundry/kitchen and the kitchen provides basic food.", "Thank you.", "LMAO EXACTLY they didn't need to ring up the president because the government is already structured to favor their interests. You need to ask WHY these people are selling on the street and why the government's response is to remove them and loot their means of supporting themselves. This isn't some cartoon villain twirling his mustache and saying \"take out the trash,\" it's decades of failed social programs. \n\n[Also your myopic view of what communism means is hilarious](https://i.imgur.com/IGCzPR3.png).", "It's honestly tiring.\n\nOh look another Korean production with class struggle symbolism, yawn", "the system that allows that bs", ">No, it's a good law designed to keep public areas orderly.\n\nNah, if your law let's you take belongings from the poor and desperate because they're trying to get by it's a bad law. \n\n\n>Public areas need orderly standards, and people need assistance to help them avoid violating those standards. Both are needed. It isn't either/or as the black and white thinking of modern day seems to make everyone believe. \n\nThey don't need help avoiding inconveniencing you or upsetting your standards. They need help getting by so they aren't at the point that they're desperately selling their belongings.", "Seeing more and more about the rich/poor divide in Seoul (presumably SK in general) lately that I had no idea even existed, I always naively thought of South Korea as a generally rich society that had a good grasp of social issues that otherwise plague countries like my own.\n\nI guess I thought of it a bit like Japan where the rich/poor divide also seem quite well hidden, at least from what foreigners see.", "Especially considering even with the lack of subtlety, it clearly flew over a lot of our heads. Too many people see if for the violent game show, and not the commentary on class issues and capitalism.\n\nBut I don't get annoyed when people miss the forest for the trees with movies and TV anymore. For some people it's just simple escapism from a dull or shitty life and they want to turn their minds off for a bit. I can kind of respect that.", "Your title makes it sound like city workers are stealing goods off of passerbys, not shutting down illegal vendors. Those are two very, very different things.", "Maybe if she literally didn't have street strewn across the whole goddamn sidewalk. Like okay. Peddle your goods on the corner, but it literally looked like she set up a yard sale on a public space", "This is false", "Isn't modern day South Korea a very westernised Asian culture though? I admit I thought they were a bit beyond doing shit like this but then I also admit to not knowing a whole lot about South Korea other than historical stuff, never visited the place.", "F+F wouldn't exist without street racing culture even if the franchise kind of ran its own course of extremes.", "Yeah but there aren't so many street vendors that they feel the need to build a mall for them. In Shanghai I remember literal entire streets dedicated to street vendors in every neighborhood. Just a guy, some goods, and a floor mat. Now ~~all~~ mostly gone.", "> Hence the old people...\n\nOld people don't deserve to be living in a nice area of town?", "https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2014/11/09/socialAffairs/Vendors-fight-to-stay-in-Gangnam/2997104.html\n\nSome context to this is very important, or would that disrupt your narrative? \n\nReality is, most of these street vendors are part of, or managed by criminal gangs. Many of them pull in millions of won a month and pay no taxes. The city is shutting them down because they're breaking the law on multiple accounts.", "Saw a brilliant Korean film about an old woman who becomes a prostitute, exploring this whole issue. Was at the Berlin film festival and I never saw it mentioned anywhere else so no idea what it was called. Was excellent though", "Got 'em", "Bruh Squid Game is exaggarated finction and some of the reasons people had to play the game are not even true to reality. I live in Seoul", "They do this to the homeless in Texas. The cops back a truck up to their encampments and just start tossing their shit.", "Filmmakers are definitely not the same level of \"rich\" as the ultra rich though.", "So it's not just the US.", "Exactly, it's not a competition. So why do you guys keep bringing up America even when it doesn't even make any fucking sense on the context and only serves to derail the conversation?\n\nEvery single time there's a thread about another country having a problem with something, some American comes in comparing the situation to America and before you know it it's now Americans talking about America once again.", "🤢", "Ah yes, the socialist hellhole of South Korea.\n\nJust like my favourite game set in a socialist dystopia, Cyberpunk 2077.", "lol", "i find this comment to be really dumb what about america how much homelessness is there?", "\"And yet you participate in society\"\n\nevery\n\nfucking\n\ntime", "Yes the great outer space racing culture.", "I believe these forms of retirement are also embedded within many Asian culture. Though I can't speak for everyone and culture fluctuate any individual choice, I was led to believe that I was the sole person to aid my mother when she retire. In addition, my heart goes out to the lady in the video. That could had easily been my mother, whereas if something were to happen to me - her livelihood would change for the worst. If by chance there's a gofundme page already setup for this lady, please let me know. I would like to help her.", "LMAO.\n\nHow tf is it worse? Working class here, living in South Korea.\n\nSouth Koreans pay $30 a month for [the best healthcare in the world.](https://ceoworld.biz/2021/04/27/revealed-countries-with-the-best-health-care-systems-2021/)\n\nSouth Koreans live [3rd longest life span in the world.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy)\n\nThe minimum wage is in the ballpark of $1600, meanwhile the rent for a studio in Seoul is ballpark of $500.\n\nSubway ticket is $1 and the subway and public transportation in general rank among the most advanced and cleanest in the world.\n\nOne of the safest countries in the world with one of the lowest homicide rates.\n\nHow TF is it worse than NK? Parasite Squid Game", "It's ironic, in a sad way.", "I’m going to guess it has happened somewhere in the US but poor/homeless beg and sell in the streets in cities and rarely get busted. Sometimes the cops make them disperse, but they’re just back again the very next day.", "Thanks man, live here and it's amazing. But my experience has nothing on this 10 second long video", "\"Socialism is when the average life for a worker is made better by limiting direct corporate power and offering a medicum of worker control!\"\n\nFuck off.", "Socialism isn't \"when the government does things\" as much as capitalism isn't \"when corporation does things\". Economics and authority are not that simple.\n\nThe government in South Korea is protecting the interests of the corporations because the government is being run by capitalists.", "\"You're littering a public space and selling things without a permit or business license\" \"We should get you into a housing/business situation\" is the mindset I'm getting here after thinking about it more than you did.", "Yes, but South Korea is under the strong influence of western anti-traditionalism (and other leftist ideas) so such concepts as disrespecting your elders are nowadays worryingly common.", "If you want to change the world learn to argue ideas instead of calling others \"evil\" and emotionally saying \"get fucked\".\n\nYou did not change this voter's mind, and did little more than a cathartic release.", "You need a license/permission, which those people in the video didn't get. But Korea bad", "It's the exact opposite. This video is of communism in action.", "Name one \"ism\" that works perfectly from top to bottom.\n\nCapitalism with social programs is probably the best scenario. But it will always be a \"this social program isn't working 100%\". There will always be people who fall through the cracks.", "Private industry like the medical profession!", "If your asking whether fantasy exists in fiction, obviously the answer is yes.", "I haven't seen Squid Game yet because it sounds like painful viewing, similar to The Boys. Don't get me wrong, The Boys is a fun, well written show with some great acting, but boy is it hard to watch when you realise how it reflects how hopeless life is under the current corporate capitalist system. Same goes for Parasite.", "You live in Germany, I don't think you can talk lol. Nice history, Hitler.", "It is absolutely first world country status by all definitions and recognized as such by all relevant insitutions. The fuck you talking about? I live in Seoul right now", "Peddlers hawking wares illegally is pretty common in most major cities. If you do this for a job, then you know the risks, and the reason you take those risks is because the places where you're trying to sell thing is very lucrative. \n\nSK has a robust fleamarket system that these \"old people\" are choosing not to use, because the items they're selling only tend to sell well in high traffic areas. - Getting busted by the cops is a normal part of doing business for illegal street vendors.", "Relocating their goods is the only way they will be moved.", "AHAHAHAHAHAH, lmao ive never saved a comment before. I can't wait to show yours to my students (to laugh at you by the way).", "No, do you?", ">Nah, if your law let's you take belongings from the poor and desperate because they're trying to get by it's a bad law.\n\nHow would you change the law to make it better?\n\n>They need help getting by so they aren't at the point that they're desperately selling their belongings.\n\nI never argued otherwise. I think the real solution here is a social safety net, not repealing the public market laws.", "Then why did you say what you did if it was so obvious? Just throwing out random statements?", "Well a lot of people assume that other people on the internet are American, so they're basically saying \"don't talk shit about other countries when your own has the same problem\"", "I said we shouldn't oust those people until alternate solutions exist. \n \nIDK what you think, but the kind of left-leaning people telling you to be nice to homeless people are the same who support homeless shelters, help and welfare. Like, no fucking shit. \n \nYou created this false (and idiotic) dichotomy where either you agree with kicking homeless people out of their city, or you support homelessness. \n \nBut, by the very fact that people choose of their own volition to camp in the street, this shows that no, there are not any sufficient alternate solutions. \n \nIn Europe, there is such a thing as social housing in most countries, and that reduces homelessness compared to countries that don't have it. That's (part of - food stamp-like programs and free education are also a thing) what I'm advocating. Who the hell have you ever seen who is left-wing enough to tell you to leave the homeless alone, but right-wing enough to then say \"we shouldn't give poor people shit\"?", "This is kind of how it generally was for human civilization up until the last few generations.", "China also oppresses minorities, uses them as house slaves, and slave labor. Puts them in concentration camps. What they've done for Tibetans, they are now doing to Uyghurs. Plenty of video, satellite, and witness statements proofing that. (You really don't want to be in a place they conquer or acquire.) \n\nWhat they do to Muslims, in mainland china, they are also doing to Christians and Jews. \n\nOne of the BBC reports on the matter, has Chines party members complaining that because some many have gone into concentration camps, the economy of the region has regressed. Stuff like not being able to bring in harvests. \n\n-------------\n\nThey too have their corruption. And wealthy party member sons riding in expensive cars causing accidents. \n\nThey just also have a massive censorship system. A video like you are seeing here, would not come out of the country. \n\nThey disappear even members of their own people. Plenty of Hong Kong examples of that.", "Being an American means you can bring up America in literally every single topic and derail other people's conversation?\n\nI guess it is fitting the stereotype.", "Hi Jong Un! 👋", "Because the liberal brain has a terribly short attention span and must be constantly reminded.", "Which is equally moronic. Americans aren't even close to a majority on the internet. \n\nEven if they were, it'd still be equally disrespectful to barge in every non-American related conversation with the same old \"WELLLL IN AMERICA...\"\n\nThe world doesn't revolve around America.", "libruls r stoopid", "What if we told you that making something a law doesn't necessarily make it just?", "Like, I feel for them, but why do you think Western Media needs to be covering the same issues we have here at home? I'm already inundated with news I can do nothing about, and Korea's wealth disparity is on that list.", "Cubans have the same life expectancy, lower infant mortality and a better healthcare system that provides more third world aid than the U.S, has eliminated Mother-Child AIDS transmission and cancer vaccines for different types of lung cancers. Their distribution of food and resources like that are done quite well and they have had multiple democratic referendums..that have been monitored by independent observers...related to changing the economic status and function of the nation and abolishing the \"Chairman\".\n\nNotice how it's only the U.S pointing out dire issues of communism and socialism..when countries like Norway, Sweden, Finland, Netherlands, Denmark, etc all have better standards of life and quality of life than we do.\n\nDrugs and problems related to drugs are caused by constant persecution and unfair treatment that forces a lot of members of society who struggle into these positions of \"Leechdom\" as you would put it. There are multiple reasons for this; from cartels pushing their product southward as the illicit nature of these drugs makes them that much more highly valuable. There's a reason that states legalizing has cut into cartel profits and they've been forced to diversify into things like avocados and farmer racketeering/politics. Further more, safe-shoot up centers and similar locations have been flat out proven to work, reduce crime and reduce messes all over the city. You probably just don't like it, but sadly, that's how the world works snowflake! People like you are the reason why those schizophrenics pick up machetes.\n\nThere are millions of jobs who don't pay a livable wage, don't offer the benefits they should and countless more people who quit or are suffering from a variety of different things. It's called a breaking point. A straw that broke that camel's back. An apt metaphor for when workers in the U.S have been mistreated and poorly paid in a system that is utterly broken and can barely pay a livable wage in most cities. That isn't a bipartisan issue. Happens in both red and blue cities. Poverty cripples red states, while crime and institutional issues plague blue states.\n\nInstead of putting up and dealing with it; workers had enough.\n\nSpineless people like you do nothing but bitch about it and whine about conspiracy theories, leftist and anarchists when the real problem is the system infront of you. Ever seen the Twilight Zone episode \"Four O' Clock\"? That's you. Say hi to your parrot, Pete!\n\nStill, you bitch about homeless people yet don't say a word about tax-leeching soldiers. Boy oh boy, am I glad to pay taxes for crayola funerals!", "But he saw one video and now knows everything he needs to know about North and South Korea, who are you to tell him he doesn’t?????", "Oh for sure. I think the wide appeal of it just made me feel worse about it. (almost) everyone got the message and empathized with it. \n\nThis isn't just me being depressed or off. A large portion of people are trapped by debt, hate their job, and see the cracks in the dam.", "You said, and I quote: \"they're no longer homeless\". \n\nThat's not true. They are still homeless.", "> left-leaning\n\nWhy bring left/right into the discussion? We are all humans trying to solve problems.\n\n>You created this false (and idiotic) dichotomy where either you agree with kicking homeless people out of their city, or you support homelessness.\n\nIt sounds like we both want homeless people off the streets and in homes. What is the argument?\n\n>people choose of their own volition to camp in the street, this shows that no, there are not any sufficient alternate solutions\n\nAs I highlighted in my skydiving analogy extension, even though alternatives exist some choose homeless freedom over restrictive housing.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n[European social housing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG4aYsvgchA) \\-- need to always be cautious public housing doesn't become an unmaintained slum.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>left-wing enough ... but right-wing enough\n\nMore toxic placing people into partisan boxes. Escape partisan thinking before it blinds you to truth and novel solutions.", "You said what I said but in more depth. \n\nWe said the same thing.", "> complaints from people living/working there.\n\nImagine thinking capitalism works when you also want to cry about competition.\n\nBitch please if you're a believer in capitalism then let the old people sell their gum instead of crying about it. But even then, capitalism is about beating your competition right? So, seems to me that getting the government to kick out the competition is a prime example of capitalist tendencies.\n\nAlso read about communism and socialism before you speak about it.", "Which places in Korea have no running water or electricity? Living in Korea right now, reading this thread makes me wanna kms\n\nSouth Korea is absolutely 1st world all over- not just Seoul. 3rd highest life expectancy ffs behind only Japan and Switzerland. Best healthcare in the world, top consumer tech, top public transportation, leads the world in college education and innovation. Some of the lowest homicide rates in the world. Practically no theft or pickpockets. What more do you want?\n\nSouth Korea in most ways stands high above the Western hemisphere. I thought people realized it in 2020 during covid outbreak but I guess Squid Gaem", "My gf is korean so I have some first hand accounts.Their social systems for elderly are not great apparently. Almost 50% of all elderly people live in abject poverty in korea, its actually quite a huge number, one of the highest rates in the world", "Apparently it was. How’d city workers find out?haha", "Yeah that's how society has been for the last 10k years. Only difference now is that we expect the government to do it for us. (Ie social security, push for universal child care.) You as the middle part of the sandwich are still providing for your children and your parents, it's just indirectly through your taxes now.", "r/LateStageCapitalism \nAlternatively \nr/ABoringDystopia", "I agree with you, but even if you don't have children, you're still paying for society's children and elderly through taxation. Just because you don't have children yourself doesn't mean you're free of the traditional societal burden of supporting those who can not support themselves.", "Maybe it is but so is the comment they are replying to.", "Take a chill pill, there, crusader.. Did I say Korea? Are you even responding to the correct comment?", "Holy fuck. This is the most reddit title ive ever read", "Uh, what? Socialism is when worker co-ops, which is what you described. \"Solving the issue is dismantling institutional power that these corporations have, putting them under worker ownership\".\n\nWorker co-ops are bad because workers are stupid, though, so we don't need any of that crap to solve this very specific issue of elderly people not having good access to amenities.", ">he income disparity here is insane, even compared to the US.\n\n[Korea's income disparity is below the average of developed country.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality) Much lower than America's. I expect this kind of take from a Squid Game fan but not from someone whos lived here for over a decade\n\n>I know all too well with my $1,000/month payments to my parents-in-laws lol.\n\nAre you sure you aren't getting strung along? I've heard of people marrying into families who then milk them dry under false pretense. Mean no offense with this.", "Without government who would prevent you from getting by in life.\nYeah, we could do without government and I don’t want another idiot saying “without government who will build roads”.", "I've experienced something to, so the comment you are replying to is BS.", "I think that's heavily implied by the comment you replied to and agreed with.", ">And I know Reddit shrieks at any positive mention of them, but look at China. We wonder why they’re beating us but they have a complex high-speed rail system, formidable antitrust teeth coupled with actual enforcement, and similarly aggressive action on climate change. \n\n\n\n\n\n\nThey also have some of the worst air pollution, safety standards and human rights. They literally have concentration camps in 2021. \n\n\n\nThey are also known for people being eaten alive by escalators or buildings randomly collapsing. But yeah, they're so innovative.", "Shame on them.", "Too bad, you need bootstraps to get a job. Now what?", "This type of stuff is the case in every country. But most don't advertise it like we do.", "TLDR?", "Why are the city workers running around so disorganized and frantic, like hippity hopping around, they look like thieves trying to get done quick.", "Seems like we're seeing the problems with that now: corporations get too large and dismantle the safeguards by buying the government, all while telling the public that it's for their own good.\n\nOf course, most centrally planned systems end up with enough corruption and inefficiency that they run over the same people, just without the extra step. Government and the economy are hard. Humans have been at it for thousands of years and we still can't quite get it right. Someone always gets shafted. Nevertheless, we have to keep trying and pushing to find something better.", "It’s effectively how all social security systems work in every country. Those who are of working age pay for the system that supports those who can’t work.", "He Ded.", "You might want to look into why. Sort of revolves around this subject. There's a reason you can't setup shop in the middle of the street selling anything you want.", "Quite the opposite. It seems like everyone else here preformed the opinion that the city officials are evil with pretty much 0 context as to what had lead up to this. Maybe this is super unethical, maybe these people have been setting up here for a week straight and been warned/asked to leave multiple times each day to where the city has no choice. Governments don't usually have the resources to launch a shut down like this (man power as it's not just 1 employee, the bags and vests, etc) within just an hour or 2 of this opening up.\n\nEdit: I do wish they would at least bag their stall's items separately though. It will be really hard to sort out whose stuff belongs to whom afterwards, if they even get their stuff back at all. Just stealing their shit would definitely be fucked up.", "Wow apparently realizing that international politics are nuanced makes me somehow KJU?", "Sad that they’re mostly addicts and crazies. What should be done?", "you don't think capitalism encourages monopolistic takeovers? lol", "My comment was 3 times imbedded and to another that was just as conversationally branched as the thread was going from the OG post. Perfectly reasonable. That comment WAS talking about Korea and I generalized it. It's not implied just because you assumed it.\n\nI think you are just looking for people to yell at because you are obviously...passionate about this.\n\nI have no comment on the application of my view to S.Korea, as I have no personal experience there. I merely saw someone describe exactly what I HAVE seen in dozens of other countries and generalized from there.\n\nKeep fighting your good fight, though.\n\n-Sent from my Galaxy whatevertherfuck.", "Agreed. The colloquial meaning of the phrase has changed over time, but the concept isn't hard to grasp. Most Redditors aren't very self-motivated, don't have much life experience, suffer from soft bigotry of low expectations, and want things given to them without putting effort into it, so they're going to hate on you if you suggest that success often comes from hard work and self motivation.", "It’s a crazy story since 2014. A man was approached by police after them noticing that he was selling loose cigarettes. Things escalated, a few officers were involved using excessive force. Eventually he died. The family is involved in lawsuits with the city and the cops that allegedly killed him testified this past Monday. \n\nHere is the link. \n\nhttps://newyork.cbslocal.com/2021/10/25/eric-garner-judiciary-inquiry/\n\nEdit: Spelling Testifyed. :p", "Look at all of the people in debt in SK. Household debt in SK is more than 100% of the GDP.\n\nYou're middle class, and your country is subsidized (and made the bitch of) the most imperalized military in the world.\n\nThe same military that firebombed the fuck out of the northern half, destroyed over 50% of the infrastructure and buildings in the country and then made it illegal for any country to trade with them.", "2014 - Eric Garner was strangled to death by an NYPD officer while two others held him down. A Richmond County grand jury decided not to indict the officer but he was fired in 2019. NYC paid out $5.9 million to his family.\n\n[Wikipedia - Killing of Eric Garner](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Eric_Garner)", "That’s not even what this whole topic above is about. No one is saying those levels are worth the same but they both contribute to the growth of the company. Eventually the low level employees are the heart and soul of what makes the company money. Why not compensate that?", "You don't know what socialism is.", "But since the ideal solution of a social safety net is obviously not in place, it's not exactly the craziest idea to overlook some ad hoc messes in public areas for the sake of helping some elderly get by, at least until the ideal solution is implemented.\n\nThe cost (disorder and nuisance to pedestrians) versus benefit (allowing poverty-stricken elderly folk to help themselves survive) is pretty skewed here no matter how you look at it.", "Excellent rebuttal. Thank you for your well thought out response.", "Socialism is all rainbows and sunshine, amirite?\n\nThe inconvenient history of socialism's evils can just be brushed aside and ignored, yeah?", "나는 이해하지 못하지만 구글은 이해한다", ">You're middle class\n\nI'm a student working part time and barely getting by, and everything I recounted in my comment applies to all classes in Korean society anyway.\n\n>Household debt in SK is more than 100% of the GDP.\n\nBecause of jeonse\n\n>and your country is subsidized (and made the bitch of)\n\n😂😂😂😂 jfc, not worth engaging with. I'd tell you to visit here before spouting bullshit but I guarantee Koreans don't welcome you here.", "What a crazy conspiracy theory", "One small detail, he was not selling nor did he have ANY cigarettes on him. The whole point of the case was a store owner called the cops on suspicion or selling. Changes it a bit.", "Do you think these people could afford the licensing? They are selling their cloths to get money for food. WTF!", "Governments gentrifying areas and driving poor people out is exactly what Capitalism is. They protect Corporate interests. \n\n\"Commie nonsense\" yeah clearly you don't know shit about Communism.", "Sorry, that does change the context. Thanks for clearing that up.", "[Eric Garner](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Eric_Garner) was murdered in the streets by the NYPD on 7/17/14. Suffocated on a sidewalk by \"peace officer\" Daniel Pantaleo. The state refused to indict Pantaleo. The federal government refused to criminally charge Pantaleo.\n\nEventually Pantaleo was fired in August of 2019, 5 years after he murdered Garner but has faced zero criminal charges. It's just another reminder that the US government does not, and has not ever cared about black people, justice, morality, or really anything other than exploiting the working class and increasing the wealth of the self serving politicians and their campaign supporters.", "[Killing of Eric Garner](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Eric_Garner) \n \n >On July 17, 2014, Eric Garner was killed in the New York City borough of Staten Island after Daniel Pantaleo, a New York City Police Department (NYPD) officer, put him in a prohibited chokehold while arresting him. Video footage of the incident generated widespread national attention and raised questions about the use of force by law enforcement. NYPD officers approached Garner on July 17 on suspicion of selling single cigarettes from packs without tax stamps. After Garner told the police that he was tired of being harassed and that he was not selling cigarettes, the officers attempted to arrest Garner.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "No, you literally just don't know the dictionary definition of the word. It's pretty embarrassing.", "> they busted their asses off after the war \n\nYou have no idea. In the 1960s [fully 25%](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_and_prostitution_in_South_Korea) of South Korea’s GDP came from Government encouraged prostitution, specifically aimed at American servicemen shin stationed there at the time. Obvious right on the heels of Japanese occupation and the horrors of the comfort women program. Today Samsung contributes 25% of SKs gdp with other similar high tech and heavy industry concerns at the base of the powerhouse economy, but much of the country’s miracle recovery and wealth enjoyed today came from what these old people, particularly the women endured", "Oh well, guess they'll all be eating dog food tonight. Good lookin out Korea.", "I bet you think Squid Game is about communism 😂😂😂😂\n\n>I'm a student working part time and barely getting by, and everything Irecounted in my comment applies to all classes in Korean society anyway.\n\nSo you're a middle class kid.", "You have no basis to think I don’t know what socialism is.", "Man just shut the fuck up. It's the greatest service to society that you're capable of", "Money.", "A very large portion of SK people live in poverty, not just the elderly. Their minimum wage is like $5/hour while the COL is similar to cities like LA and Seattle. The country is tiny (a bit smaller than Kentucky) so it puts real estate at a premium. There aren't enough jobs available for skilled labor in relation to how many qualified people since Korea figured out that STEM education is the key to success. This drives down wages and greatly increases pressure on middle school & high school students since how you do in those pretty much determines how financially successful you will be in life there. Too much emphasis is put on prestige of colleges/test scores.", "Not so fast there still people who believe it was about communism", "Except the things you said about it.", "Nope, it criticizes capitalism and it's not subtle. Most of the reasons people had to play the game in the show wouldn't be realistic in Korea tho. Probably why it's more popular in the Western hemisphere than it was in Korea :)))) Squid Game distorted people's perception of Korea \n\nBruh you have no fucking idea what you're talking about. None. I know it's hard to come around. Sad that you're choosing to shill for a regime that shoots its own citizens trying to escape for a better life, tho.\n\n>So you're a middle class kid.\n\nI'm middle class making below minimum wage? Say it out loud please.", "I'm so sick of this fucking comment", "I said nothing about socialism.", "I am familiar with the book and theory and there are neurological reasons to suggest that this may be the case.\n\nConsciousness does appear to be a spectrum, and there is no singular thing we can point to as consciousness that all 'conscious' humans have in common.\n\nThus, it is more likely to be an illusion than an actual thing.", "Reading this just brought back a bunch of nostalgic memories for me. Nothing like buying some crispy snacks at a stall and then browsing the comics and abundance of Dragonball Z merchandise right on the street.", "Ok. \n\nDefine consciousness in a way that is common to all 'conscious' humans.\n\nYou will find it extremely hard to do, as every current definition of consciousness has a living, breathing exception.", "I live in the Netherlands and we don't have a socialist government. Yet we manage to take care of our elderly.\n\nWe're a capitalist nation with some socialist elements.", "> I've read a lot about communism. Fortunately I'm not a fucking idiot who think it could possible work without widespread murder and famine.\n\neveryone here: \"You don't know what communism is.\"\n\nyou: \"It's not me that's wrong, it's all of you!\"\n\nSeriously read a book about it or something that's not from the words of a capitalistic pundit.\n\nAlso there's no emotion in stating that crying about a competitor to the government and getting them to kick them out is a symptom of capitalism that is, as you say, not a free market.\n\nBy the way are you against free market capitalism then? I mean seems like you REALLY don't like communism so much so that anything that is sounds like socialism gets grouped into communism in your mind.\n\nSerious question as well: Do you value your work? As in if you do a job for someone, do you expect to be paid? And do you expect to have a say in how you should do your job and how others should treat your job?", "Comparatively, the Netherlands is pretty damn socialist. Especially compared to SK or the US.\n\nDo you have welfare for the elderly?", "Have you ever heard the saying that if everyone around you seems like an a-hole, then you might need to reexamine yourself?\n\nEDIT: Also, you need to work on your reading comprehension. The original reply is to a person saying that parts of Korea are still like a developing country, therefore it has a long way to go to first-world status. America is a prime example of a so-called \"first-world\" country. Therefore the comparison is on topic. That should really be obvious... Not to mention you're on an American website trafficked predominantly by Americans.", "In reality homeless people in US is multiple of Korea and at least these old folks have access to the health care without paying hundred thousand dollars just to get treated at hospital. \n\nEquivalent of this in US is homeless barging into McDonalds and asking for money, illegal as hell and intrusive to your sugar coated life where you come to online and say \"those people doing their job have no soul\". \n\nYou know how much it is to buy right to set up hot dog stand near time square? \"He is just trying to get by let him sell without license\" \n\nPeople have tendency to throw logic out the window when they think they are \"being good\" and this comment section is full of it.", "I think you misunderstood parasite.", "The truth is buried in the comments.", "He's been working on it for 10 years apparenly.", "After living in Seoul for many years, I saw there is a lot of this kind of stuff happening around the city. Seoul does have homeless people, but the police/government on these issues are more draconian than western media would suggest. There are very little social services and payments to seniors. They need to sell items or move far away into the countryside to have a chance of living in their later years.", "You don't know if any of those possessions were stolen.", ">Most of the reasons people had to play the game in the show wouldn't be realistic in Korea tho\n\nBruh. The main characters background is based on real events. The debt crisis in South Korea absolutely is one of the main drivers of suicide and the show is extraordinarily realistic to the issues ADULTS in debt face.", "That's your opinion. No heart and no soul without risk. You can quit that job at the first sign of trouble in the company and get another job. The heart and soul must stay and right the ship all the while risking their own livelihood.\n\nRemember, most companies aren't big, they are small businesses built by hard working people who want to better themselves and their family. They assume all the risk and create jobs. You think that a person that comes along and works there for 10 years deserves some equity? They applied for a job and are paid a wage for their services.", "Man, Squid Game would have had a much different last episode if this was the scene instead.", "State capitalism doesn't exist in your worldview? I guess we all just live in free market capitalist societies huh? \n\nYou must live in a very special world thinking that capitalism isn't rooted within government systems. \n\nAgain you've no idea what you're talking about.", "Is it a robbery when police confiscate drugs?", "?\n\nYou did.", "sure, them to. \n\nreally everyone in the country. those benches their old junk is streWn about on, they're not therE for anyone to use as a sheLf for your crap all day, they're for people to sIt on for a while to haVe a snack while looking at the scenEry.\n\nin addition to disruptIng the intended use of a footpath on a bridge it also causes a public safety hazard just look at piNk hat with the walker trying to cross the street at the stArt, they should not have to navigate acroSs people stOpping and standing around looking to purChase shit from an illegal store setup on a footpath.\n\nit's not that hard to see how thIs is good for evEryone, jusT because you're poor or an old ladY doesn't excuse being an asshole to everyone else trying to use that space for it's intended purpose. \n**\nbottom text", "Depends...\n\nWhich drug? Which country?", "There's an anime with basically the same plot that came out around a decade ago or more (obviously from Japan).\n\nSo its not SK.", "One where drugs are illegal", ">The main characters background is based on real events.\n\nWrong, it was \"inspired\" as the writer himself put it, meaning fictional and exaggarated.\n\n>The debt crisis in South Korea absolutely is one of the main drivers of suicide and the show is extraordinarily realistic to the issues ADULTS in debt face.\n\nWrong again, the only reason Korea's suicide rate is so high is [the suicide rate in age brackets](https://www.statista.com/statistics/789375/south-korea-suicide-death-rate-by-age-group/) that other countries, including your own, don't even reach so it doesn't concern you :))) And the main driver for it is not debt. \n\nAgain, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. It's like me talking about America after watching Pearl Harbor. You're actually delusional, no idea what else to tell you.", "With adequate retirement and social services, not every person needs to have kids. There is literally zero reason for modern industrialized nations to not be able to provide a minimum quality of life for all old people. \n\nNot all people are capable or want to have kids, and those people should definitely not be forced to as a means of retirement.", "You know how internal forces don't generate motion? You can't push your car down the road by pushing the dashboard from the seat. You can't push a boat through the water by standing on deck and pushing the mast. You can't lift yourself up by pulling on your own bootstraps. \n\nThe phrase was used to show how difficult it is for impoverished people to lift themselves out of poverty without help.", "Even if that were true, do you believe that addicts and mentally ill people deserve to freeze to death?", "While you are correct that Korea's income disparity is lower than the US's, that doesn't show the entire picture, and I can see where that guy might be getting his erroneous impression from, especially in the context of the elderly:\n\n>Meanwhile, the poverty rate for “seniors,” defined by the OECD as people aged 66 or over, was much higher in Korea. In this age group Korea topped the list with 43.8 percent, far surpassing the corresponding figures for the US (23.1 percent), Japan (19.6 percent), Sweden (10.9 percent), Spain (10.2 percent) and Italy (9.7 percent).\n\nhttp://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20200802000122\n\n>The country also has the highest levels of poverty among the elderly in the developed world. In 2018, about half of the country's elderly lived in poverty, three times the OECD average, with many of them homeless. As a result, South Korea regularly claims the highest suicide rate in the OECD and the wider developed world.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_inequality_in_South_Korea", "[Economic inequality in South Korea](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_inequality_in_South_Korea) \n \n >Economic inequality in South Korea is a major issue. According to data during the 2010s, low-income earners make up to 40% of South Korea's entire labour force. Conversely, the highest income earners make up only 1–1. 3% of the labour force.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Not everyone has to work. I would rather those that choose not to work, or are mentally incapable of working be taken care of in some manner than have them homeless on the streets. \n\nBut this weird mentality that “everyone must work” just doesn’t make sense. The evidence is in front of you. Not everyone can or will work. That’s reality, staring at you every day. And although this may be morally reprehensible to you, it doesn’t matter. Because they obviously don’t care about your moral view on them. \n\nI’d rather we simply provide some type of food and housing for those people who are not going to work than have them create makeshift shelters on the street. \n\nAnd besides, I’d rather there be more job opportunities for me, which create higher wages. So it doesn’t bother me if there are those that don’t want to work. \n\nAdditionally. The problem with using “isms” is that it doesn’t actually solve any problem. Rather, look at each problem and work in a viable solution. But trying to fit everything into whether it’s socialism or communism or capitalism doesn’t actually provide a solution. \n\nA perfect example of the ridiculousness of this type of thinking is Medicare. Medicare was derided as socialism to try to scare politicians into not passing it. But that’s just stupid. Medicare is simply a way to ensure older people have access to healthcare since there was an issue with older people not being able to get insurance and not having viable work options. So…so what if it got described as “socialism”. It works. It’s a solution.\n\nSo think out of the box instead of trying to deride any solution based on some political/economic definition.", "They're entirely different things and there's (probably)nothing wrong with what's going on in the video so long as there are legal alternatives to sell flee market shit. You can't have vendors just be able to set up wherever they want, no city can or does allow that.", ">Wrong, it was \"inspired\" as the writer himself put it, meaning fictional and exaggarated.\n\n[It's literally happened exactly as Gi-hun described. The writer WAS THERE.](https://www.carbibles.com/part-of-the-squid-game-plot-might-give-you-an-idea-why-gm-korea-still-exists/) The fictionalized parts were Gi-huns own life choices and existence. The strike happened. People died.", "Tell me you don't know what socialism means, without telling me you don't know what socialism means. You must think European welfare states are socialist lol.", "Wow", "How did they misunderstand? The movie shows disparaties between poor and rich and how this poor family tries to climb to the top by tricking the family. I don't see how it's being misunderstood.", "[Read my comment posted earlier](https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/qhl7mo/comment/hidf7ti/?context=3) on this topic \n\nI'm well aware of the injustice many of the elderly suffer here and I hope it changes asap. I'm just a foreigner, I can't really do shit or even perform any political activity (that's against our visas), can only hope gov pushes for better social policy. \n\nBut the fact remains that South Korea is one of the most income-equal countries in the world, and that's not what he was claiming", "You just answered your own question.", "So it’s not robbery. This is no different. They’re just confiscating contraband from merchants who have broken the law.", "Yes, it's called sarcasm.", "There are no evil characters in parasite.", "But in most K-dramas the poor girl marries the evil CEO", "Shouldn't the title say this?", "On a global scale? Yes, you are socialist. \n\nIn an academic sense? You're a capitalist economy with a social democratic government.", "I mean its entirely possible that these laws can be relaxed for the sake of people obviously in economic hardship, but until then the city workers have to fulfill their obligations.", "So that 25 Mph sign on my street is just a recommendation? I can do 55 if I wanted to?", ">There is literally zero reason for modern industrialized nations to not be able to provide a minimum quality of life for all old people.\n\nOh, there are plenty of reasons. Just no ethical ones.", "It is a good idea to discourage people from selling stuff on the street. Is sending people to aggressively take their stuff really the best way to do it? If the people selling stuff were desperate, this is inhumane.", "If people are in obvious economic hardship, much more needs to change to help them, and letting them sell little trinkets or whatever on the street isn't what they need to improve their situation.", "Since it's sarcasm, that means it isn't true. \n\nIf it was true, it wouldn't be sarcasm.\n\nAlso use \"/s\" to identify sarcasm because it doesn't really work in text.", "> only countries where this doesn't happen are ones that have managed to veer away from this severe form of late stage capitalism\n\nyoure probably thinking of capitalist countries who have been capitalist for just as long", ">it's not exactly the craziest idea to overlook some ad hoc messes in public areas for the sake of helping some elderly get by, at least until the ideal solution is implemented.\n\nSure, I agree, but done improperly and this can spiral to larger problems. Short-sighted compassion can lead to greater human suffering in the long run; look at the formation of skid row.\n\nAlso, the fact city officials followed through created this debate that will likely spark progress towards a social security net for them, whereas if city officials just let it slide their city would become more and more rundown while the destitute elderly still suffer.", "Big Flee Market keeping the people down smh", "and are also in as just as late a stage of capitalism as America, and have actually been capitalist longer than South Korea", ">A very large portion of SK people live in poverty, not just the elderly.\n\nYeah? What portion? Because I'm pretty sure the elderly make up nearly all the poverty in South Korea.\n\nEDIT: [I was correct](https://data.oecd.org/inequality/poverty-rate.htm#indicator-chart)\n\n>Their minimum wage is like $5/hour\n\nTheir minimum wage is like $8 actually. Amounts to ballpark of $1600 a month.\n\n>COL is similar to cities like LA and Seattle\n\nLmao pass the joint bro. Rent for a studio in Seoul is in the ballpark of $500. You can rent a room with a private bathroom for as little as $200 a month, they are called goshiwon. In Seoul. That's the COL in LA?\n\nEDIT2: would love for someone who downvoted this comment to tell me why they downvoted.", "So, you don't care what your labor is worth to a company or a business then. Is that what you're saying? And you're willing to be used as a commodity by other people? \n\nSo you're fine if you don't get paid sometimes or you don't have a living wage, or no health insurance or a safe work environment? Cause that's what being treated as a commodity entails, if you didn't know.\n\nI mean, it sounds like either you're too privileged to understand the necessities that is required of being a blue collar worker (a rich guy's son/daughter). Or you're so lost in the sauce that you actually don't care if you are treated as a resource with no consideration of your humanly needs to survive.\n\nI mean I'd call you a psycho but I just don't think you have enough knowledge of economics and workplace regulations to be one.", "Can you list some countries in the world that allow unlicensed, unregulated street vendors?", "Confiscating?! More like robbing the poor and elderly.", "I thought this only happens in China, sadly, it also happens in South Korea, just without the violence. \n\nIt's sad, that instead of asking the question 'How can we help the elderly as a government so that this won't happen*', but instead, this is what they see as a solution.", "Nice try.", "> disorder\n\n> nuisance \n\nDo you know what either of those two words means? Old people chillin with a 0.751.5m cloth and some goods doesn't really qualify very well. And regardless, doesn't warrant that kind of response.", "That’s what I love about this post from the Reddit brigade. We know nothing except they are illegally selling goods on a sidewalk but the bleeding hearts just start demanding they stop right now. The city got involved as their powers say they should be. Nothing about this says they are stealing it or confiscating it, just moving illegal venders. If they don’t this, then no one will ever follow any business rules.\n\nEdit: I am not saying the government shouldn’t fully support these people in housing and income. Idk what the rules are in Korea for this. I just know letting people hack stuff on the side of the road isn’t a great way for society to run either. They should not have to be doing this.", "I have and I'm fairly sure I'm not an American.\n\nYes, people were talking about South Korea. Therefore not America. Do you need further elaboration?\n\nSouth Korea is in no way similar or comparable to America, which is literally 100 fucking times bigger than South Korea and was founded 172 years before South Korea. America also doesn't have a constant threat at the border who wants to invade them at the first opportunity they get. America also has 280 million more citizens and vast natural underground reserves, while South Korea has very little.\n\nSo no, unfortunately not everything has to be about America, or compared to America. You can compare Canada to America. You can't compare fucking South Korea to America. It's not apples and oranges, it's brake plates and oranges.", "Sucks that a supossedly rich1st world country still has some of these things", "you\n\n> The property became illegitimate once they broke the law with it \n\nthe other guy\n\n> according to what law?\n\nthen you:\n\n> First, this is in South Korea, go look up their laws.\n\nThey asked you which law it is because you're stating things as facts as they relate to the situation, so surely you already know the law? So tell us?\n\nYou follow up your \"this is south korea\" bit with \"well at least in america\".\n\nmassive rofl", "Yeah they do that with the people that sell goods from the little carts here all the time. Cops will even take whatever they earned. This is nothing new", "Deleting it doesn't make you look any better just fyi.", "Thanks for the context. Based on what you say here, while it’s pretty shitty of the city workers to do this, they are doing so because it is their job based on enforcement policy set by people higher up than them. That policy would in turn be based on the actual letter of the city’s regulations.\n\nRegulations such as this exist for a reason, but the reasoning may be outdated or not in line with current public attitudes. However, unlicensed street vendors can negatively impact a large number of people and even cause safety issues if pedestrian pathways become clogged. \n\nOne option is to make compliance easier by easing permit requirements and focusing on educating unlicensed vendors on how and why to comply with the code. Or easing restrictions in certain areas to encourage the activity in that area and discourage it in areas where it may be more disruptive.\n\nUnfortunately there would still be people unwilling to do so and you’d still need someone doing this unpleasant job, because you can’t just have broad allowances for people to take over large public spaces that are intended for other purposes if you want to maintain livability.", "Wait what did they say? They deleted it 😂", "We need to change the way we treat the elderly, because one day thy will be all of us. People act as if the elderly have no value and dehumanize them. It makes me sick to my stomache.", "You derailed into something that's completely out of context.\n\nAnyways, it's been proven times and times again that lightening the burden through social programs / taxation, is far more manageable, cheaper and healthier for a population than to just let everyone scramble on their own, under the \"muh freedom I dont want to pay for others\" mentality.", "Paying taxes is a far cheaper burden to bear than being financially responsible for 1->3+ extra people.\n\n50% of my after-taxes paycheck goes to my mother at the moment for her medical needs, only 20ish% of my gross comes out in taxes.\n\nIf I lose my job, that tax rate goes way down but my mother will still need the same amount of money. Now I can't afford to lose my job because I am financially responsible for my mother.", "That is intersting. Pretty much like Brazil's reality", "You seem to have a huge chip on your shoulder about America. The comparison could have been to any other first-world country, and I'm sure you would not have felt compelled to blather. Self-reflection would do you some good.", "Not like that at all. Just made an observation.", "The life expectancy is increasing and people start having children at later age. If everyone in your family had children at 20 it used to mean that when you're 40 your parents are 60 and getting ready to retire while your kids are already adults and starting their own lives, your grandparents are 80 and most of them are dead. These days it's closer to 30 for having children and that means if you're 40 your children needs constant attention while your parents are 70 and start needing attention, if your grandparents are still alive in their 90s they need constant attention.", "Yeah if people were doing that in my city, I'd want the city to clean it out immediately. However, I will always vote for, and have always voted for, significant resources via taxes and bonds for housing for the poor and homeless.", "\"\"it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God\"\"", ">Yeah? What portion? Cite some source while at it. I'm pretty sure the elderly comprise nearly all the poverty in South Korea.\n\n[Here you go.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_South_Korea) I would consider this pretty high. As you can see, it is not just elderly, though they do make a sizeable chunk of it.\n\n>Lmao pass the joint bro. Rent for a studio in Seoul is in the ballpark of $500. You can rent a room with a private bathroom for as little as $200 a month. In Seoul. That's LA?\n\nMaybe for something the size of a shoebox. [Here is data on cost of various housing styles.](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1120722/south-korea-mean-purchase-price-seoul-housing-by-type/) The median value listed here of 868 million won is directly converted to $743k USD. 1.177 billion won for a median apartment is $1.01 million USD. Life-long renting is a terrible financial situation in the US, but more financially viable in SK.\n\n>Their minimum wage is like $8 actually. Amounts to ballpark of $1600 a month.\n\nThat's still shit. At least it is going up though.\n\n[Here is data on the suicide rates as well.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_South_Korea) Highest in the OECD. Thankfully this is trending downward. It is still high for both young people and the elderly.", "Riiiiiight. You realized you were wrong and you just had to go with the \"heh you're just mad\" card.\n\nNext time you'll think twice before trying to make everything about America. It isn't.", "[Poverty in South Korea](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_South_Korea) \n \n >Poverty in South Korea has been in drastic decline since the mid-20th century, particularly the absolute poverty rate. Relative poverty was also in decline until the late 1990s, but has risen since then. While only about 2% of South Koreans are affected by absolute poverty today, about 14-15% of these 2% are elderly and are affected by relative poverty.\n \n[Suicide in South Korea](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_South_Korea) \n \n >Suicide in South Korea is the 12th highest in the world as of 2019 according to the World Health Organization, as well as the highest suicide rate in the OECD. In 2012, suicide was the fourth-highest cause of death among South Koreans. The high suicide rates compared to other countries in the developed world is exacerbated by the large amount of suicide among the elderly. One factor of suicide among elderly South Koreans is due to the amount of widespread poverty among senior citizens in South Korea, with nearly half of the country's elderly population living below the poverty line.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "well yes thats true. but thats different from supporting your own. with taxes the burden is spread out enough that even if you lose your job or get sick your dependents wont starve cause your hardship is balanced by the million families doing well or great\n\nthe sk way its all on you.", "Okay, but that's no reason not to fix something wrong.", "Here is all the reason you need to contribute to your retirement fund.", "If only it were so black and white. It's probably their only way to make enough to survive. Not sure what you 'love about' that. \n\nIt's just society forgetting we all exist and it's little bit sad. What would you suggest these people do?", "Honestly, this is just getting pathetic now.", "I understand, and yeah he was absolutely wrong about the claim that South Korea's income disparity is 'insane' compared to the US. He should also not have used 'income disparity' as the sole measure of conditions in South Korea (or anywhere else) in the first place, as it's just a single, fungible metric that doesn't represent, by itself, anywhere near the full picture. I think your wiki link said it best:\n\n>Income distribution can vary greatly from wealth distribution\n\nThis can be seen by the fact that despite being high on the list of income equality, South Korea has a very high poverty rate (though still not matching the US):\n\n>Korea posted a poverty rate of 17.4 percent -- the second-highest among the 35 economies analyzed. The US poverty rate stood at 17.8 percent. Further down the list were Greece (12.6 percent), Portugal (10.7 percent), Poland (9.6 percent), Slovenia (8.5 percent), Hungary (8 percent) and Slovakia (7.3 percent). Other countries with poverty rates lower than Korea’s included Turkey (17.2 percent), Mexico (16.6 percent), Latvia (16.6 percent), Estonia (15.8 percent) and Japan (15.7 percent).\n\nhttp://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20200802000122", "No you don't; you can collect cans to recycle for money barefoot.\n\nYou don't need bootstraps to learn how to use commas either. ;P", "In the city I live in, a lot of elderly people take the social welfare food items and sell them on the street. They're converting charity goods to dollars at the taxpayer's expense. In a high CoL area with high taxes this just seems like another misuse of public funds as these people clearly don't need the food but have access to it anyway.", "It's still a viable response despite me not being that same person. The \"quite the opposite\" is a response to you, not to that person above.", "Scum bag city workers.", "Amen, and Amen… \n\n\npastor voice\n\n We know what G-d was saying when he spoke these words….\n\nBUT….do we know what G-d was saying?\n\n\nNo, you are all filthy humans, and now we turn to the book of Enoch. Where it reads,", "No one should have a sandwich period. The elderly needed to have taken better care of their financials and planned for retirement.", "The Nordic model's capitalistic and works just fine. Stop bringing capitalism into this; it's not a problem caused by privately-owned means of production.", "Am I crazy, or does the link you posted not mention anything about criminal gangs? It talks about a street vendors confederation, and certainly gives context as to the broader historical crackdown on those vendors (since this is an article from 2014), but it doesn't seem to connect said vendors to criminal gangs.", "Yeah, there is definitely a big issue (especially in the US, like you pointed out) of too much leniency for the homeless causing serious problems. Hopefully South Korea can learn from these mistakes, and hopefully they won't just sit on their hands simply out of fear of what might happen if they try to fix it.\n\nI'm not going to give the city officials any credit here, same as I wouldn't give racists credit for bringing the issue of racism to light.", "That highway deserves some attention. Korean civil engineers made a miracle switching the traffic patterns around efficiently enough to warrant removing an entire highway.", "You clearly were not. \n\nDon't try to write off cowardice as \"just having fun.\" lmao. Also respond to my other comment you coward.", ">Here you go. I would consider this pretty high.\n\nYou linked me to elderly poverty stats. I'm asking you to link me to data on poverty precisely outside that age bracket. All it mentions about general poverty is that absolute poverty is at 2%.\n\n>Maybe for something the size of a shoebox.\n\nCan't access that link without a premium account. But as someone who literally lives in downtown Seoul studio and pays \\~$500 with utilities- lol. My studio is a regular size studio apartment. I paid $2000 in deposit which I'll get back after my lease runs out. The rent here is very low compared to USA, UK, Scandinavia and so on, even Japan. The cost to BUY a house is high.\n\nAnd [here's private rooms with private bathrooms for $200 a month](https://www.seoulinspired.com/goshiwons-in-seoul/). Literally $200. That's Los Angeles?\n\n>That's still shit. At least it is going up though.\n\nWhy is it shit? The GDP per capita PPP for South Korea is very high. I believe it's now higher than UK, Italy, France etc. That's shit? Dear lord.\n\n>Here is data on the suicide rates as well. Highest in the OECD. Thankfully this is trending downward. It is still high for both young people and the elderly.\n\nThe only reason Korea's suicide rate is leading in the OECD is the suicide rate in [age brackets](https://www.statista.com/statistics/789375/south-korea-suicide-death-rate-by-age-group/) that other countries [simply don't reach.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy)\n\nI've got no clue why you're bringing suicide rates into this conversation tho. But it seems to happen every time this country is mentioned, some weird fixation people online have with shitting on Asian countries by naming all and only the negatives.\n\nEDIT: would love for someone who downvoted this comment to tell me why they downvoted", "Commie… ?\n\nLike old pa used to say down by the levvie, tellin’ tales of them there days fightin’ old Mao’s hordes on the bloody ridge?\n\nDo people really use that in common parlance? That makes you sound like a fucking maniac.", "This is so American in flavor. The world is full of asshole governments.", "Next thing Boston will use the police on the homeless to force out on Mass and Cass area.... 😡😠🤬", "Yeah, I'm sure these are dangerous criminals and this is why the people stealing the clothes are regular dickheads in t-shirts and running trousers instead of policemen", "The next game is Supermarket Sweep.", "The allegory is deeper than that. (Spoilers ahead) The rich family can also be viewed as a parasite thriving off the labor of the majority of people, leaving the majority of society to suffer in silent squalor while the rich plan their garden parties after a destructive rainstorm.", "[Hey look, it's you!](https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha/)", "The percentage of my taxes that go towards welfare programs is a pittance compared to actually caring for a single child.", "Thugs working for the rich to steal from the poor. FUCK GOVERNMENT WORKERS.", "They're not giving it back. Notice how they are just throwing everything into unidentified orange bags, even mixing the possessions of different people.", "No you see there was no real socialism , so we need to try again 🤡", "> Name one \"ism\" that works perfectly from top to bottom.\n\nYou're trying to set up perfect as the enemy of good, while also trying to ignore that no person, government, or system is perfect, therefore, \"gotcha!\".\n\nI disagree with that.", "> But capitalism can exist a monarchy, democracy, or a republic. \n\nNo shit, did I say anything contrary to this? Learn how to read.", "They can save up money during their lifetimes instead of wanting to be paid by someone else who does all the work", "Probably has more to do with counterfeit goods being sold based off the roadside markets ive seen in my life. But i've never been to korea", "He's very intelligent.", "I don't have Netflix so not sure what you are referring to.", "> In Vietnam, my aunt has to buy a small plot/stall and the tax man comes around every so often to collect, often skimming off the top himself so he raises the tax certain days claiming that the tax has went up.\n\nIs there no way for her to fight this? Video/audio surveillance and reporting to responsible agencies? Her checking and being fully aware of the applicable tax rates? Police enforcement? Big strong dude enforcement?", "To be fair the ones living in the country of Communism don't have internet and/or are dead.", "They are social democracies, a form of socialism", "How about remove the power of the government to regulate free enterprise?\n\nEDIT: hilarious how people are like \"omg why dont they let people sell their stuff in peace\" but dont want market deregulation\n\nYOU DEFEND THIS SHIT", "There is a third alternative; worker controlled.", "Worker-Owned.", "I showed the concept exists.\n\nmassive rofl massive rofl massive rofl", "Silly to go by global scale when discussing economic systems. Having social systems in place doesn't suddenly mean you're not a capitalist country just because others don't have them.", "Thats why need basic universal income or what its called. Everyone should be able to have an ok life. I wouldn't mind playing to a few that were lazy because most would want to get jobs and earn more. It's not always about money it's about feeling needed and have something to do. Then some will always just get that base income and never work but does it really matter. Let them. Then after a while some might be bored and want more. Basic income could also be good for people who want to bet on some startup idea. I think innovation would increase.", "The police in the US do this on a daily basis to people living on the streets. We get new mayors saying 'this time things are gonna be different' but keep arresting and ticketing people who have nothing.", "The key word being comparitively. Just because we take care of our elderly doesn't mean we are not a capitalist country.", "Lol, this would never have happened in Cuba because there's absolutely no economic activity there!", "You have nothing of substance to say, just cathartic emotions.", "There is a special place in hell....", "> hur hur, ya pointing out massive hypocrisy of somebody criticizing \"cApItAlIsm\" while directly doing everything they can to personally be enriched by the system.\n\nBecause there's no alternative option, dipshit. If he gave every cent he owned away, he'd still be in a capitalistic system. Criticizing criticisms of capitalism because the person criticizing it has a higher net worth than you is just intellectually lazy and deliberately refusing to engage with the actual underlying points.", "The straw-man cometh.", "If you think the movie director with 40mil is the problem you seem to be missing something.\nHe's a fantastic artist and director who has earned that $ and I'm sure he's more than willing to pay his fair share in taxes so a fair % can go back to helping his country/people.\nThe entertainment industry paying too much isn't his fault.\n\nElon Musk made 36 BILLION in one single day, and he's arguing against taxing the ultra wealthy. Is Bong Joon Ho?", "The graphic on the Wiki page is a bit dated (2012), but it shows over 65 population experiences relative poverty at nearly a 50% rate while the total population as at nearly 15%. I guess this is what happens when a country modernizes as rapidly as South Korea. I am curious when it says \"relative\" poverty, how the living conditions for the 65+ would compare to what they grew up with.\n\nIn terms of housing cost, we are comparing 2 different things. I doubt many families really want to live in a studio or 1 bedroom, nor do most people want to rent their entire life. At least, that's the view in America. If it works in Korea then power to them. I just know anecdotally that I am already getting claustrophobic just looking at that listing for $200/month.\n\nThe only reason I mentioned suicide is because I believe it is directly linked to financial prospects.\n\nI don't really get the point of what we're even talking about. If SK works for you, then power to you. I am glad you like your living situation. I enjoy the US. Different people like different things and it's great that we can live where we want.", "Sounds about right for China", "This is evil.", "Jesus can you socialists just suck it up already and work? Anyway got to go, just bought another boat with my pension and Medicare and social security and live in a house I got for 20k in 1970 cuz I earned it 🤪", "Hedonism.", "Not everyone who is anti-capitalist, is pro-communist. But you've just leapt ahead to that conclusion. Now, instead of promoting the benefits of capitalism, you're just railing against communism. \n\n\nWhich is \"average capitalist nonsense\", if I've ever seen it.", "Domestically. Internationally they're an imperial core country that benefits from the exploitation of the global south. Social democracy in Scandinavia is paid for with imperialism (its place at the top of the global hegemony) and exploitation elsewhere.\n\nWith this system you can't have rich without poor, for some to prosper others have to suffer.", "My day was ruined reading a comment from a programmer who bragged about making six figures and that he always loved computers and didn't even go to college. Good for you bro but not everyone has a hobby thay society rewards. I like reading and writing but teaching pays dog shit", "I gotta say that \"oh yeah? poverty rates in south korea are normal, it's just the old people that can barely make ends meet!\" is a pretty funny response to \"there is a lot of poverty in south korea\"", "Yes, I do. \n\nI understand your motive is to make a point about something you know very little about and will run away from an argument if it's clear that the other person is more informed than you are.\n\nI also know that you're doing this for an ego boost but it failed and you are trying to hide your embarrassment by deleting comments.\n\nYou could say I'm a psychic, but the reality is you're predictable.", "They didn't call this place the happy hell for nothing", "I figured a mere ... was sufficient for one this obvious.", "> how hopeless life is under the current corporate capitalist system.\n\nMan you need to stop inhaling that left-wing propaganda, it clearly isn't doing you any favors.", ">The graphic on the Wiki\n\nisn't complete. I was hoping to see poverty levels by age brackets like in the graph I linked you for suicide rates. I made [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/qhl7mo/comment/hidf7ti/?context=3) earlier, I believe if elderly poverty was eradicated Korea would go all the way down the \"by country\" index for relative poverty in OECD.\n\n>we are comparing 2 different things. I doubt many families really want to live in a studio or 1 bedroom,\n\nTrue but 2 bedroom apartment rent prices are not a lot higher. It's all because of the deposit system here, eg. you pay $10,000 in deposit and very little in monthly rent. In the meantime the deposit money is invested by the building owner for profit. There's a whole other system called jeonse that basically has you pay a very large key sum up front but live rent free- and get the money back after the \"lease\" expires.\n\nOf course modern or large apartments usually come at a steep price but still not even close to what any mid size American or British cities are like. Comparing COL of Seoul to LA is mad, it's so much cheaper here. It's cheaper here than in Copenhagen, Paris, Berlin and so on while the public facilities, transportation, safety, cleanliness, technology are all better.\n\n>I don't really get the point of what we're even talking about.\n\nYour initial comment wasn't exactly accurate", ">you're still paying for society's children and elderly through taxation\n\nIsn't the whole point of this thread that taxes are not paying for the elderly and that's why the ones without children are homeless?", "Seoul is the capital of South Korea, still a terrible thing to do", "But the family isnt evil in any way lol. At worst you can call them oblivious.\n\nIt's hilarious how people are trying to convince others a family of con men ruining everyone around them are heroes. Just because they're poor? So were many of the people they ruined tricking their boss to replace them with members of the family.", ">if your answer at any point is ''it's the law'\n\nThat has never been my answer, why do you assume my answer without a discussion?\n\nYou don't argue because you are incapable of forming sound arguments. You just chirp emotions from the peanut gallery.", "This happens everywhere. Why are urban planners so opposed to the concept of people being able to work and shop in the areas they live? Why does everyone have to commute half an hour to work or the store?", "It’s all certainly just going into the trash", "Maybe if they worked instead of wanting the government to take care of them it'd get better. When my dad offered me the VP position at his fortune 500 company I became a self made millionaire over night! I never once asked for hand outs! America!!!!", "If they're being used by criminal gangs, doesn't that mean the goods would be owned by the gangs? In which case, confiscating the goods is the most sensible thing to do.", "r/ABoringDystopia", "Which is a problem again independent of capitalism; this is a problem that can come up in any economy's international policies.", "Criticizing capitalism =/= Praising Cuba\n\nDo you have anything actually worthwhile to say or are you just going to commit to spouting whatever fallacy you think is relevant to the discussion?", "They say in the show that it happens all over. Its just SKs is the most entertaining apparently. And Considering the total winnings in the Korean version is only 40 million USD equivalent, its entirely possible it happens in lots of countries. 40 million dollars aint shit. \n\nNormal state lottery systems regularly pay out over a billion a year. Let alone what the state keeps. \n\nSeems like rich people in each country sponsor each countries version of it.", "You kinda had the right idea until the small business. I'll give you a hint. Small businesses are dying due to capitalism. Any free market person will even tell you that they don't care about mom and pop stores. First it was Walmart killing their competition and now it's Amazon showing everyone how to use the internet to do the same. I agree that small businesses should be supported but the government/large corporations do not want that. During the pandemic it was clear as day since all of the huge retailers we're allowed to stay open but not small businesses. You also have to look at bailouts to see where they go. So where does that leave the majority of the workforce? Walmart, Amazon etc.", "“What you are doing is illegal, we’re going to jack all of your shit now.”", "I mean how could it even have an economy when the U.S. has been constantly violating the damned place since the 1960s.", "We just aren't as nice.", "I think you misunderstood parasite.", "Actually, I'm saying capitalism is good, but not perfect. \n\nPeople like /u/Cobek often throw around broad statements like... \n\n> Sounds like capitalism\n\n...ignoring the social programs we have in place. Can it be improved? Nothing is perfect, so yes. Will there be a percentage that are not taken care of? Unfortunately, yes. And that is where the critique and debate comes in.\n\nI like capitalism, tempered with social programs.", "This video shows city workers ignoring all of the actual litter, and there is a ton of it in this video alone, and instead taking the well organized goods of the poor.", ">while the public facilities, transportation, safety, cleanliness, technology are all better.\n\nDefinitely agree. The US infrastructure is embarrassing for how much money we theoretically have. Though, I do think SK partially benefitted from how it really blew up with the technology age.\n\nThat deposit system is very interesting. My wife's mom owns a couple places in Daegu and does that. My wife tried to explain it to me, but it never fully made sense until how you explained it. We have nothing like that in the US. It did not make sense to me because one immediate problem that could happen various ways (and what happened to her family) is that my wife's dad died unexpectedly soon after they purchased the place to rent out and between that loan and others (college, small business), her mom does not have a way to pay back that up front deposit since there is not follow up income from the renters.", "Found the libertarian! Lol that is great in theory. The issue you'd probably find is that markets dont correct themselves often enough for it NOT to be catastrophic when it does. Monopolies can be just as, or more destructive than a tyrannical government. You dont need to look far into the history of central and south America to see what happens when companies are allowed to operate outside of government regulations. Look up the banana wars. Chiqita is a murderous bitch! \n\nI used to be a libertarian, but that went away when I accepted that people's/corporate greed would make it impossible to allow them to self regulate. Greed is the bane of most 'idyllic' societal philosophies.", "Most jobs are replaceable now. Low to mid level. If they can automate your job or figure out how to make it easy enough that a monkey can do it they will. It's why most jobs out of college are low paying.", "Capitalism and communism are not opposites. Being against the harsh realities of unregulated capitalism is not an endorsement of communism. The end result of unbridled capitalism is feudalism.", "I do not support stealing their stuff and dumping them with nothing. My opinion is they need to immediately taken into some state housing system and supported with some sort of income. I am just saying this literally doesn’t show them NOT doing that. Just government workers cleaning up essentially a homeless encampment on the side of the road. Doing this is not wrong in anyway as long as you support them on the other side. I would expect the same treatment if i started doing this. Society can’t live with people who are poor having a whole different set of rules.", "The largest expenditures in our tax bill are medicaid and Medicare. We in the US obviously aren't providing comprehensive care but the majority of every tax dollar goes towards elder care and help for the needy. \n\nWhat is up for debate is the efficacy of those programs, which obviously aren't great.", "Holup, downtown Soul is 30 minutes away from the southeast corner of the same city by subway? Must be a big ass city.", "Source? The numbers seem made up. The Samsung GDP contribution is definitely wrong/outdated.\n\nEdit: Samsung was [14.6 percent of the GDP](https://pulsenews.co.kr/view.php?year=2018&no=562268) in 2017.", "I never advocated for self regulations. Monopolies can form but right now we have STATE using LAWS to create artificial barriers for competition, benefitting specific companies.\n\nEssentially state sponsored monopolies, which boycotts cannot work against, nor can competitors break in.\n\nI don't believe in Utopia. I'm a Minarchist because of this. Otherwise if I was utopian I'd advocate for communism or anarcocapitalism.", "Needs more context.", "isn't it more like they are cleaning so the homeless are not siting there?", "AFAIK, you like have to be a wack stupid pompous ass to want to be on a zoning board", "I’m not sure, my mom says there is corruption down to the street level there so it seems systematic unfortunately.", "Can I have some of that delicious boot you're licking there?", "This post assumes so much without any extra details on what is going on. I also love getting torn apart by people who also don’t know the context. Are they moving them all into homeless shelters and supporting them? Idk Korean laws on supporting homeless and this posts give me nothing on what is actually happening besides “stealing from illegal venders”.", "Capitalism isn't the only system driven by certain contradictions that produce issues like inequality or class conflict but none of those other systems are prevalent in the world today. There aren't many (any?) feudal or mercantilist countries that I know of.\n\nIf you look at the history of capitalism you'll see the same patterns repeating over and over and over again, regardless of time and place. It goes way beyond specific policies since it reproduces similar problems everywhere. It's not a bug, it's a feature.", "Idk what this specific lady's deal is but there absolutely are assisted living programs for the elderly in SK. What percentage of the elderly population those programs cover, idk, but I personally know elderly people living in govt provided apartments.", "In some ways, Taiwan. They both suffered destruction in WW2. Korea had the bad end of the stick here. They both had to break out of a cold war military junta. They both had a rapid industrial revolution. Both had staggering shifts to democracy. Both are a part of the critical chain for technologies. Both boast a heavily educated workforce. Both are known for fairly efficient health care systems. And both have some really poor people in the fringes.\n\nThe only difference is despite how important Taiwan is to global technologies, no one seems to recognize them on the international stage.", "Your worldview sucks", "Bro, this thread isn't about us in the US. It's about Korea and how the culture THERE is leading to the elderly in the street. Are you just that dense?", "Workers don't just show up and take your stuff without you getting warnings first. You're aware of where and when you can sell things. These aren't beggars. They were probably told numerous times that they couldn't sell in this spot, but even without being told, if they do that for a living, then they know where they can and can't sell.", ">In the 1960s fully 25% of South Korea’s GDP came from Government encouraged prostitution\n\nI'm not necessarily outright disagreeing here, South Korea after the Korean War had the GDP of Zimbabwe at the same time (according to Modern Korea historian Bruce Cummings) - but do you have a specific source for this figure?", "That's not so much a feat of traffic engineering as it is an example of (reverse) [induced demand.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand) The availability (or lack thereof) of excess road capacity influences people's decisions on what time they drive, whether take mass transit instead (if available, and Seoul has lots of it), whether that trip is even worth making at all in this traffic, how far people are willing to live from where they work... In short, people adapt.\n\nAnd by the way, Seoul isn't the only city in the world to avoid a car-pocalypse after losing a highway (either deliberately or because the highway collapsed).", "[Induced demand](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand) \n \n >Induced demand – related to latent demand and generated demand – is the phenomenon that after supply increases, price declines and more of a good is consumed. This is entirely consistent with the economic theory of supply and demand; however, this idea has become important in the debate over the expansion of transportation systems, and is often used as an argument against increasing roadway traffic capacity as a cure for congestion. This phenomenon, more correctly called \"induced traffic\" or consumption of road capacity, may be a contributing factor to urban sprawl.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "> 병신\n\n\nliterally my fav word. i cant even be mad and oh my god great username", "People in /r/SeattleWA (the conservative sub) cheering.", "Visited Seoul twice. Each time I saw a woman of around 80 clean up the garbage from the streets. The wagon/rickshaw she pushed was the size of a minivan. This was at 3 am when the city is dead. Seeing that side of the society made me sad. And the prevalence of ajumas and ajashi selling what little produce they could was heat breaking. One was permanently bent over from field work and selling vegetables. It's hard to see.", "That happens in most major cities where you need a permit to sell on the streets.\n\nIn Vancouver where I am it's the same: if you don't have a permit you will get in trouble with the cops. This also includes selling food on the street without a permit.", "You showed... korea has rule of law? You didn't even show that. To show is to demonstrate.\n\nSo your contribution to the conversation has been to raise the idea that korea has rule of law? Is that really what you're going for here?", "I agree with most of your statement. But bailing out banks and big business as well as making small businesses shutter in the pandemic is not true capitalism. Calling it what it isn't is what you are doing. \nCapitalism is the answer. What we have here is government interference, not the free market determining which businesses stay open and which ones close.", "> even if the franchise kind of ran its own course of extremes.\n\nFun enough, Vin keeps making F&F movies because they always sell well and it brings in enough funding for him to do other series' that he wants to do. New Riddick movies, The Last Witch Hunter, Bloodshot, etc.", "Yep. I grew up in the States, with Korean parents. It was impressed and taught from a young age that my job as the eldest of my generation was to make sure the elders are taken care of.\n\nOf course, that's not what's expected of me from my quite Americanized parents with their 401k's and retirement funds. But my sister and I have plans to take them in when they can't take care of themselves anymore, probably when one passes. It's just what's expected of us.\n\nBreaks my heart to see the elderly like this. Always respect your elders!", ">To show is to demonstrate\n\nmassive rofl massive rofl massive rofl massive rofl massive rofl massive rofl massive rofl massive rofl massive rofl massive rofl massive rofl massive rofl massive rofl massive rofl massive rofl massive rofl massive rofl massive rofl massive rofl massive rofl massive rofl", "LOL that sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen", "[Same thing happens in Brazil](https://youtu.be/tDBtQlTIvnU?t=3) She says while police are taking her fruits away: \"get off of me, I am not a thug\"\n\nIt is absolutely bonkers that you need a \"license\" to trade, some taxes are just legalized Mafia activity.\n\n\nFiscalization in the video claim they don't have a license to operate (alvará), the traders are claiming they don't have an option to get one from the city hall.", "What the fuck are you even arguing about? Maybe you're confusing me with someone else or something. Or you're just massively strawmanning away.", "Looking at users post history... I wouldn't hold your breath. Some redditors are experts in everything; truth be damned..", "In the context of this discussion; I am defining consciousness as our ability to be aware of our surroundings and the level of consciousness is to the extent by which we are aware. A slug may be considered aware but its level of awareness does not rise to sentience for example; humans are aware in my assumption of consciousness I am positing that the extent to which we are aware is akin to the level of consciousness a slug is to us; that there exists much more to our surroundings we are incapable of comprehending/seeing. I dont even really think thats for debate TBH. Seems like we're going around in circles.... Good luck to you and your field (which you never said what you do - I assume play video games in your mom's basement and masquerade as a academic 😉", "yes, many. so Western also in the sense of Westernized.", "and how do you know that? this was about something else, but since you brought it up, well according to the World Bank China is the country that did the most, worldwide, in bringing people out of poverty the past thirty years...", "GNP instead of GDP, but the [25% figure is correct](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_and_prostitution_in_South_Korea).\n\n>\tDuring the 1960s, prostitutions and other related businesses generated nearly 25% of the South Korean GNP.", "If the goods are owned by the gang, then confiscating them disincentivizes the entire economic underpinning of the activity, which is effective at curbing the activity even if you can't find and arrest whoever's bankrolling it. If they're just the old person's personal belongings, then I don't see how it could be the case that they're being \"used by the gangs\", which was the jumping off point of this particular branch of discussion. I assumed that meant the gang fronts the goods and lets the sympathetic senior citizen be the front of the operation so that when the operation gets shut down, this exact kind of backlash (\"How heartless and cruel, to steal that old person's pots and pans!\") is generated.", "Sure, but you're far closer to socialist than most other countries, so that's not entirely true.", "never make deductions based on two bits taken from the internet.", "No, you’re not “supposed” to do anything, and that mindset is why there are 90 year olds selling gum on the street. They were “supposed”\nto have money saved and a family to take them in, which is the justification used to treat them this way.", "Oh no, I understood the film. I just didn't read these comments thoroughly enough. I thought they were trying to make out Parasite like a Robin-Hood situation, which it definitely isn't. \n\nI will say you seem to be critiquing the Rich family too hard. They're easily the most sympathetic characters in the film. Even allegorically. The film is much more about the poor screwing each other over than it is about how they're oppressed.", "why so defensive? two wrongs don't make one right. own your own faults.", "yeah but is the Westernized Korea innit", "this was not about that.", "The big Communist one is currently winning Capitalism after deciding to use the popular slavery hack.", "Wanting to remove all barrier that the govt has put in place to regulate free enterprise is anarchocapitalism, and it doesn't work at all. So saying you want what anarchocapitalists want, but that you aren't anarchocapitalism, is just pointless.", "well yeah precisely", "I mean, that's not even true in the US.", "Down with zoning laws and ordinances, they are so unprogressive...", "Is leaving them there to build a shanty town the better alternative? \n\nThere are policy changes and social welfare programs that could help. But allowing people to just do whatever goes against everything we've agreed on as a society (like regulating vendors, health and cleanliness levels, etc).", "You’re a fuckin idiot that’s for sure.", "But... what can they possibly get for the items? Almost nothing, in exchange of sitting on a piece of cloth all day. What do they need money for this desperately?", "Disheartening...the despair those old people must have felt! :-(", ":-(", "Duuuude if you’re referring to who I think you’re talking about, I would see her too. I would always buy gum from her 🥺", "She died last year, sorry to break it to you. There were people who left flowers for her as a memorial of sorts on the steps where she would stay.", "Go live in north korea or china then, if capitalism is so bad…", "Not everyone has the means to save, and no savings are secure. Stock markets bust, cash can lose value to inflation, real estate can bust (this happened to my dad).", "If you suggested what you have there to an average conservative American, they'd look you straight in the eye and call you a communist.", "> Is leaving them there to build a shanty town the better alternative?\n\nI wasn't advocating for that. And you are right, policy changes and social welfare programs could help.", "And apes are far closer to humans than dogs, doesn't mean they're humans.\n\nLess capitalist or more socialist /= socialist", "South Korea turning in to the US.", ">they busted their asses off after the war\n\nHow do we know those people in the video were the ones that busted their asses off?\n\nWhat if they were the ones who got drunk and partying in the old days?", "You are wrong. Anarchocapitalism requires the absence of a government .\n\nDeregulation of markets is not anarcocapitalism.", "We're sadly tending to that I'll agree, but we're not as far gone as the US yet", "That'd be true if that taxation did more to take care of those groups, but it doesn't - at least nowhere near enough, from what I am gathering.\n\nI like to think sometimes that you should seemingly want a society to be like.....err...If you own a basketball team in the NBA you want to give your players the best training facilities, doctors, nutritionists, coaches, etc etc etc because you know these things will lead to the best performing team and a harmonious team that feels like they're in it together as a unit. If you have a country and want your society to excel you should make sure your people have everything they need - a foundation - from which to operate at peak performance. The US, and seemingly Korea, seem to be fine with having Lebron James - these nations big and powerful corporations - on a huge contract that allows him to hire all these top trainers etc on his own - along with a team of scrubs that are on league minimum salaries and having to spend a ton of that to take care of themselves. Lebron spends a few million just taking care of his body every year. The league minimum contract is like 1.6 million.", "Nothing is secure my friend. The State could collapse, and then what? Who's gonna give you handouts?\n\nYou need to be self-reliant as much as possible.", "No sir. I'm just a hard worker, not some slacker who goes around in pity for myself (like all poor people).", "9 million plus cities generally take an hour or more to traverse if you count suburbs.", "Because they don’t want the city to go to shit. In a city on 10million people you can’t do whatever the hell you want, if everybody did that it would be chaos. Thus we create rules and zones to keep things organized. It sucks that they don’t have a better safety net, but this is not an acceptable alternative either.", "That's not how indentured servitude works. It just puts the workers even more in debt to the slave owners.", "Might as well be Seattle", "I mean, I don't know what role you are saying the govt would be playing in this hypothetical society if they are not able to spend on infrastructure projects or able to pay their employees to do things. Govt without economic weight is just an opt-in code of ethics.", "Have you ever been to the US?\n\n>'How can we help the elderly as a government so that this won't happen'\n\nTell us some stories about what you have done to make a difference.", "Cops don't like people who can fight back.", "This is about Korea, first of all. Second, we wouldn't spend so damn much on that - leaving huge gaps in other programs or not having other programs at all because that money is spent on the horrible healthcare system - if the people were able to be better taken care of from the start.", "Or simply take a little from the rich folk and care for your people. The solution is not mass murder.\n\nGod bless you.", "> Most Redditors... don't have much life experience... so they're going to hate on you if you suggest that success often comes from hard work and self motivation. \n\ntfw the original phrase was literally invented to mock these maliciously naive \"success = work hard lol\" fantasies.", "Look at Tokyo, Japan. They have mixed zoning where factories and shops can be right next to housing and it is doing very well.", ">The colloquial meaning of the phrase has changed over time...", "Ah yes, the impeccable logic of \"everything could collapse, therefore we shouldn't help anyone\", definitely no holes in that", "Same thing is happening in the USA. Children are too much of a financial liability, so we're in a steady population decline. But, that has ramifications on our social programs which require young people to be paying in. These programs may not be robust (or even solvent) when it's time for my generation to collect.", "Amazing how many similarities there are with the US that I've only found out about more recently. People here can't lose their job because their husband /wife and children's health insurance is tied to their job so if anyone has a medical issue they need that insurance for, people end up with very limited ability to do anything else because it will financially ruin them if they don't quickly get another job with insurance that is just as good.\n\nIts so incredibly cruel for these wealthy nations to leave their people in such awful predicaments and is overall detrimental to the success of that society as a whole.", "This is not Gangnam style.", "Ic ic! I misinterpreted! You're right. Comcast is a big example of government funded monopolies. Yes those laws are HUGELY detrimental to the economy and spirit of competition. We are on the same page mostly, I think. I think GOOD government regulations are actually very very beneficial! It's just a damn shame they are so hard to come by. But regulation is necessary regardless, because many corps would stop at nothing to be able to dump their trash whenever is most convenient.", "I haven't been. And I dont understand your question. Since am in no position to help anyone in this case. \n\nThe solution should come from the government, not from someone like me.", "By all means I'm talking only about business regulation. Market control.\n\nI'm a Minarchist due to essential Utopia flaw of anarchocapitalism. But I also advocate for environmental regulations because they would violate the non-aggression principle, unless you can securely store all the contaminants.\n\nIn any case the freer the markets, the freer the people, these individuals in the video would be able to make some money and not have their shit stolen by the State", "Brand new account just for this thread? What's wrong, didn't want anybody to see the insane nazi shit you were probably spouting? If you want your fashy shit, why don't you move to a fascist state?", "Have you ever considered that costs, employment opportunities, and incomes change (or in the case of incomes in the United States, don't change)??", "You think if government collapsed you'd have secure savings and still functioning consumer services etc etc?\n\nWe established society to benefit all of us. Because working together for common ends provides better outcomes for us all.", "Yes, and? Economies are fluid. There's no such thing as a stable economy. Stability is more in regards to constant indicators that don't change wildly. Some change is always expected, but not wild ones. Like market crashes for instance, or hyperinflation, or unsteady politics etc", "Trade will exist with or without governments.\n\nWhere there is demand, there is supply.", "How is poverty and unemployment, under employment in South korea?", "So you're saying it's better to allow gangs to engage in organized criminal activity because they provide jobs to old people? I can't say I agree with that.", "God damn it, those poor fucking women. First the japanese and their use of \"comfort women\" and then 15-20 years later, in their children's generation, 25% of the gdp came from prostitution.", "Always gotta love the 'It's socialism when capitalism happens' comments", "South Korea is a very cruel society. May have to do with a combination of very long history of slavery (up until 19th century) and Japanese cultural influence from its occupation.", "Free markets don't exist anywhere and never have. I don't want communism, I just want capitalism instead of crony-capitalism, with strong regulation and which also provides a much better safety net and support system for the members of a society to have good lives. You get many many societal problems and divisions from having such stratified outcomes for people that are often no fault of their own.\n\n Everyone has responsibility for their lives, but to say they all things are always equal is beyond naive. The ability of my grandparents generation to buy a home vs mine now at 34 is a two different planets type of difference, for example. My ability to succeed depends so much on where I am born, who I am born to, and the current state of society / the economy at key points in my life. This, and the fact that just dumb luck is a major factor in life, is where the concept of meritocracy fails", "Same thing happens in China, too, sometimes to a brutal extreme:\n\n>A riot involving around 1,000 people broke out last Saturday in Cangnan county of Wenzhou city, Zhejiang province, resulting in the hospitalization of five chengguan, China’s notoriously abusive and under-regulated urban enforcement officials. The alleged cause for the riots was the five’s brutally killing a civilian. According to reports, the chengguan “hit the man with a hammer until he started to vomit blood, because he was trying to take pictures of their violence towards a woman, a street vendor.” This man later died while being rushed to the hospital.\n\nhttps://shanghaiist.com/2014/04/21/rioting-crowd-beats-5-chengguan-for-killing-civillian/", "Damn.. my buying and selling on ebay in Korea wouldn't be permitted.. Assholes.", "By the way that old lady was begging to keep just that one jacket I'm guessing she has little hope of locating her \"relocated goods\".\n\nBut I get the idea. Let's just move the ugly things away so we don't have to see them.\n\nOut of sight out of mind.\n\nWhy address the problem if we can just sweep it under the rug. I've been doing that for ages and my bedroom looks great.", "Without the street vendors Seoul is bland and indistinguishable from every other major metro in Asia.", "Ah yes, the impeccable logic of \"give me free stuff because I didn't plan my life properly\"\n\n&#x200B;\n\nIm not saying \"dont help others\"\n\nim saying \"dont force others to work to pay for living expenses of other people without their consent\"", "I know this is probably ignorant to say, but I do honestly want to have a better understanding….. I really thought in Korea elderly people were highly respected (almost to a fault) even if they are not wealthy or from a well known family…\n So why are the workers so forceful? Even if they didn’t want them their, based on my view of Korea (which is a biased one, I admit) I would expect a more gentle approach, simply due to the age of the person selling…", "This is the universal mindset of people who haven't spoken to working class people. They found their way into a life where they don't have to interact with the undesirables, so they just pretend in their head that all the shit jobs are worked by teens just \"putting in their time\" and that if people are raising families under that income that it's their fault they can barely survive.", "She actually died quite recently(few months ago). I know exactly who you are talking about", "Capitalism is good for the imperialist countries. They take the global south's resources and give crumbs to their own citizens.\n\nLook at Cuba. They may be poor, but they take care of their own. They have free education, universal health care, and don't have beggars and hookers on the streets like they did in the Batista regime. They have the highest per capita of medical doctors in the world by a large margin. Infant mortality is lower than the US, despite sanctions that have been in place it's entire existence as a socialist/communist nation.\n\nThey achieved these without exploiting anyone. Just compare the capitalism in Haiti and Dominican republic to Cuba, it's not even comparable.", "They do! Just thought I'd save them the effort of replying. Then again by their tone, they seem to be having a blast admitting that they think poor people deserve to die.", "Desktop version of /u/mushroomjazzy's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_and_prostitution_in_South_Korea>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", "[United States military and prostitution in South Korea](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_and_prostitution_in_South_Korea) \n \n >During and following the Korean War, the United States military used regulated prostitution services in South Korean military camptowns. Despite prostitution being illegal since 1948, women in South Korea were the fundamental source of sexual services for the US military and a component of Korean-American relations. The women in South Korea who served as prostitutes are known as kijichon (기지촌) women, also called as \"Korean Military Comfort Women\", and were visited by the US military, Korean soldiers, and Korean civilians.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "It matters if a system perpetuates the ability of you and your co-workers to be exploited and live in shit conditions to help a handful of people live really really well, and you think people should be able to have some level of dignity and quality of life standard.\n\nGiven your belief that it doesn't matter what you value, only what the current market forces value (which includes valuing the ability of a CEO to go from making 30x an employees wage to 300x or more) Do you think people should not be allowed to strike?\n\nDo you think markets are actually free in the US or anywhere else? Do you think that it's not possible for a market to become radically skewed in favor of a very select few?", "https://youtu.be/QSWjeBUfyWI this a video from one of my favorite channels that kinda covers the subject", "Communism is when no iPhone!\n\nWho gives a fuck if he's rich? He didn't ask to be born into the same prison we are all in here. He didn't make his millions in blood diamonds, he made it speaking truth to power. Worse ways to make a buck or $40 M.", "You do realise that these old guys suffered all through the Korean war and the austerity period that built Korea into the powerhouse it is. They were told that they would be under paid but that they need to suck it up so the next generation can prosper, and they did. Now the next generation is leaving them behind", "It shows up, works great, gets taken over by cronies, turns into an oligarchy, and then it sucks. That's a common pattern and one that's difficult to avoid, but it isn't inevitable.", "They didn't have to be evil because they were in a nice position. \n\nThe other two families screw each other over because they're literally starving. \n\nWhereas the rich father has no reason to look down on the poor, saying they stink, and look down on some poor dude who admires him. \n\nOf course, what the poor families did was despicable in their own way, I see your point about me being too harsh on the rich.", "So you think the police should take fat stacks of cash to these people and give it to them to pay off their debt to organized crime? What does not \"sweeping the problem under the rug\" look like? The question we're trying to deal with here is if it's justified for the police to confiscate these items... Not confiscating them doesn't help the situation either, so it seems like you're deflecting into a totally different issue just so you don't have to rethink your initial outrage.", "It’s fucked up that people are down voting you for stating one of the harsh realities of life. Pretending they don’t exist doesn’t help anybody. Just wanting it to be better doesn’t help either", "You're right there's no other reason people could need social programs than they just didn't plan their life properly. No different starting situations, no external factors, nothing. Social programs are just free stuff! Billionaires earned it all fair and square! It's all justified!", "We live in a system called capitalism, so who does the government work for? The capitalists. One of their many tools to maximize profits, limit losses, and enforce the status quo.", "Aka capitalism", "lol k downvote me for asking questions about your / their beliefs.", "Am not American. What makes you think this is communist, the fact that people aren't allowed to do business at all?", "Struck a nerve, huh?", "> During the 1960s, prostitutions and other related businesses generated nearly 25% of the South Korean GNP.\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_and_prostitution_in_South_Korea\n\nThere’s a whole Wikipedia page dedicated to the subject. US backed strongman of the time President Park (his daughter later became president and was recently sent to jail on corruption charges) effectively made it an economic policy. Women and girls were encouraged to sacrifice themselves as national duty to aid in the recovery of the country. Even today you will still see occasional articles on the unspoken contribution these women made and how they were affectively forgotten.", "Most people I work with don't enjoy software engineering as a hobby, it's just a job.", "Thank you. I am in this boat, somewhat, and feel like we are never considered in these arguments. I'm against capitalism as currently constructed. There is no such thing as a free market in the real world so when I say capitalism, I really mean a system we have now here and elsewhere that have markets but have widely varying levels of regulation and social support structures, which means there's a lot of socialism in the 'capitalism' we all live under.", "If they weren't paid for jobs they agreed to do, then they deserve to be paid what they are owed and ONLY that.\n\nFacing hardship doesn't entitle you to labor of others. \n\n\nElderly always have a hard time because they become paper weights that do not contribute to production of anything, they only consume.", "We are heading for a dystopia at light speed.", "Those workers are speaking to her so rudely, it is breaking my heart. Even if she has broken the law, they are speaking to her like an animal...", "Literally saw some GOP messaging railing against leftists and literally said 'their socialist communist Marxist ideology'", "Please share. It's deleted and I want to revel in the ridiculous", "Socialism and big swollen governments are the issue.\n\nPeople are different and there is no such utopia as equality of outcome. Or equality of being born to parents who had resources to raise you properly. Or equality of having physical or mental advantages or handicaps.\n\nSocial programs are not free because people pay for it. The productive pay for the lives of the unproductive . People are not equal on a biological level.\n\nBillionares can earn it fair and square, but some also are fruit of State creating laws or benefitting specific businesses through legislation, which is precisely the problem.\n\nand none of this is a good reason to steal the fruits of the labor of others", "Or you can not have kids and use the piles of money you save and invest it for retirement. There's already way too many people on this planet. It's selfish to have kids because you want to. Either adopt or don't have kids.", "That's stated further above though", "How can you learn a skill when you're too busy busting your ass a McDonald's so your family can eat? It's just one reason welfare is a good thing, I wouldn't be the man I am today, a well paid professional without welfare. Hell I paid for all the welfare I received in just a year of paying taxes.\n\nIt isn't \"paying for someone else\" it's paying for society to prosper so that you can prosper too. You want to pay for others education so that you have skilled employees to hire and wealthy customers to buy your shit. Not to mention, you think cunts are just gonna starve to death? Nah they'll steal your shit instead.", "Or them having children and their parents in the streets.", "As someone who chose not to have children. This is the thing that scares me. I hope this doesn’t sound negative, but I hope my time passes before I’m in a situation where I can’t take care of myself.", "Someone saying 'Youre wrongly attributing this to communism, which you do not know shit about' is not saying 'I want a centrally planned economy and communal housing arrangements a la the Soviet Union'. It's saying 'Youre using communism as a term to villify my arguments and that's not what communism is'", "And he didn’t just “eventually die”, he was chocked and suffocated to death by cops doing an illegal chokehold while he was crying out multiple times “I can’t breath”. Let’s not use the passive voice to muddy clear facts. \n\n[“With multiple officers pinning him down, Garner repeated the words \"I can't breathe\" 11 times while lying face down on the sidewalk.” “The medical examiner ruled Garner's death a homicide. According to the medical examiner's definition, a homicide is a death caused by the intentional actions of another person or persons.“](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Eric_Garner)", "Tell me you don't know what socialism is without telling me you don't know what socialism is.", "https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/07/whoa-samsung-is-responsible-for-20-of-south-koreas-economy/260552/\n\nIt was 20% for Samsung but I did make a mistake. I have been discussing this topic for quite a while and the original thrust I made was that before such high tech company like LG and Samsung comprised 25% of South Korea’s national product that same number was filled by government sponsored prostitution industry. You can see the Wikipedia source for this number here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_and_prostitution_in_South_Korea", "Go away", "I'm not saying build the Kowloon Walled City, I'm saying plan and zone the city in a way that so that the people that live there don't have to drive or take the train whenever they want to go anywhere.", "I know people who enjoy it as a hobby in the context of it being their hobby and not work. \n\nOnce you have managers, schedules, constraints, your livelihood staked on it etc, I imagine most jobs are hard to enjoy.", "This is what drove the US to pass Social Security", "Ah yes, Ted Lasso, the \"comedy\" show that just makes my heart hurt after watching. Especially season 2.", "He may not have gone to college but I guarantee he had to study his ass off to get certifications.", "That is so wrong", "It is inevitable, private ownership of capital drives capital and wealth accumulation via the profit motive. It's by design. It always trends in this direction, even if mass movements or political action can sometimes slow it down or reset the status quo.\n\nThis accumulation and the subsequent inequality and destabilization of both markets and society can be reversed or stopped during reform periods (like the New Deal / Keynesian era in North America and Europe) but it's a cycle and we keep finding ourselves in more or less the same place again. We were in the same place as we are now a hundred years ago during the \"Gilded Age\" but this time, I don't think we're going to get a New Deal to turn back the clock by decades.\n\nNordic countries aren't immune to it either, the same thing is happening there albeit not as quickly as the world's economic hegemon (the US). Countries that went down this road first by repealing or circumventing these reforms (the US, the UK, Chile etc) are the canaries in the coal mine. The rest will either catch up or be dragged down with them.", "Basically it sucks being a late Gen X or millennial right now as far as social policies goes.", "So then even higher of a percentage of GDP?", "You really just wanted to come in with a gotcha conversation, didn't you?", "Respect elders yes, but not that they can just do whatever they want. Their children however, are generally expected to obey and care for them into their old age. \n\nIn this case, these people may not have financially stable children, or children at all. And further, if they only had daughters, and they married off into another family, they're caring for another set of parents.", "Hell Chosun", "Reddit will reddit", ">If they weren't paid for jobs they agreed to do, then they deserve to be paid what they are owed and ONLY that.\n\nIf the choice is between getting underpaid or starvation is that really a fair exchange? How do you expect people to learn a skill when all they're waking time is spent working multiple jobs just to put food on the table. It's part of why the US is facing skill shortages in medicine and dentistry and has to import them. Hell even software engineer salaries are sky rocketing for the same reason, no one has any breathing room to learn the skills to provide more value to the economy.\n\n>Facing hardship doesn't entitle you to labor of others.\n\nWe're a society, you owe much of your success to society, whether you know it or not, and you should pay back that debt. The roads you drive to work on, society paid for, the schools you or your workers went to, society, the military and police that protect you, society, the food stamps that stop people from stealing your shit to survive, society. Society is a cooperative venture and we all need to chip in. This rugged individualism is what's killing America, people being selfish, greedy and uncooperative.\n\n>Elderly always have a hard time because they become paper weights that do not contribute to production of anything, they only consume.\n\nGeez with that attitude.\n\nThe elderly deserve to be looked after, if nothing else because one day we'll all be there and do you really want to spend your whole life working only to end it in abject poverty because your body and mind are spent and you have nothing left to contribute? Is that what life's about, slaving away to make ends meet until you die?\n\nYour vision of the world is depressing", "This comment is wild to me, the contrast of thinking billionaires can earn it \"fair and square\" but also that it's wrong to be able to \"steal the fruits of the labor of others\" is like...how do you think billionaires become billionaires lol\n\nI'm glad we at least agree that the rich using their money to have outsize influence on legislation is bad, but that's a far cry from socialism, I'd argue it's quite the opposite. Equating socialism and \"big swollen government\" is always going to be inaccurate, socialism is not just when the government does stuff", "I'm sure I could if that's what I was referring to. Somalia, probably. Anyways, my point was about countries that abandon their most vulnerable, and even systemically make life worse for them.", "Listen, just because you're in hard times and struggling doesn't mean you can resort to theft with no consequence.", "Nah you’re just a dumbass", "Hmm, did she have anything to say about the English dub of Squid Game? From what I understand a lot of related cultural nuance was lost.", "I've always wanted to be the first white guy to direct a Bollywood movie, that would be sweet.", "Respect yes... Treatment of the elderly however is another story here", "No mention of Burning?", "We didn't watch it dubbed, I had subtitles. I don't like live action dubs anyway, can't get past the lip movement not being synced with the voices properly", "> Same thing is happening in the USA. Children are too much of a financial liability, so we're in a steady population decline.\n\nThe growth rate is declining, but it's still positive. The US population is growing.", "Jeff could host a squid game every weekend and his wealth wouldn't even budge. Kind of insane how much money even 1 billion dollars is.", "/r/EnoughCommieSpam gold right here. Apologizing for oppressive dictatorships, claiming that poor countries are the source of rich countries' wealth, the whole deal. Let me guess, I bet the Holodomor never happened, right?", "> If the choice is between getting underpaid or starvation is that really a fair exchange? How do you expect people to learn a skill when all they're waking time is spent working multiple jobs just to put food on the table. It's part of why the US is facing skill shortages in medicine and dentistry and has to import them. Hell even software engineer salaries are sky rocketing for the same reason, no one has any breathing room to learn the skills to provide more value to the economy.\n\nBring it back to basics. When you were hungry you either hunted or farmed or traded or you died. Doesnt matter how much effort you put in, sometimes you just couldn't get what you needed.\n\nYou aren't entitled to anything that you don't do yourself.\n\nYour parents are the ones who should be responsible for raising and educating you, NOT others.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>We're a society, you owe much of your success to society, whether you know it or not, and you should pay back that debt. The roads you drive to work on, society paid for, the schools you or your workers went to, society, the military and police that protect you, society, the food stamps that stop people from stealing your shit to survive, society. Society is a cooperative venture and we all need to chip in. This rugged individualism is what's killing America, people being selfish, greedy and uncooperative.\n\nI have no debt to anyone.\n\n\"society\" doesn't mean anything. My parents paid their taxes. I pay my taxes. I don't \"enjoy the benefit\". I PAY FOR IT.\n\nRugged individualism is what made America great. It's been downhill ever since socialist policies were implemented. The dollar has lost more and more purchasing power over time. And New Deal was the biggest mistake in policy.\n\n>The elderly deserve to be looked after, if nothing else because one day we'll all be there and do you really want to spend your whole life working only to end it in abject poverty because your body and mind are spent and you have nothing left to contribute? Is that what life's about, slaving away to make ends meet until you die?\n\nThen pay for them out of YOUR OWN POCKET.\n\nOne day I'll be old and living decently because I am saving up money, and don't plan to retire at all until I am physically unable to. At which point I will die.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nLife has no purpose other than the meaning YOU give it. So yes, in essence, \"slaving away\" is nothing more than \"staying alive\". You want to not work, and have someone pay for your expenses, so you can \"enjoy life\"? That's the most entitled shit i've read today. \n\n\nSave up your OWN money so YOU can spend it however you want. \n\n\nThat's what life is about. Survival.", "I swear, it's like children these days actually fell for the GOP nonsense that programs like social security are socialism, and believe therefore anything called \"socialism\" must also be good, meaning anything \"capitalism\" must by definition be bad.", "This dude posted an article then made some extra shit up that's not in the article then insulted people for being gullible. \n\nWow.", "more like closer to 40 for having kids. Don't know if it's just me but pretty much all of my friends were around 35 when they had their first kids", "This is a hivemind comment here, the part about most street vendors being part of gangs is not in the article and pulled out of his ass.", "Living in a microapartment is a hell of a lot better than being homeless, which is your only alternative in LA if you can't afford the crazy rent.", "Okay, I have no problem with that. But that seems to conclude that you're fine with the police confiscating the items.", "SK shill for sure. No criticism allowed I guess.", "You can judge how great a nation is by how it treats its poorest inhabitants.", "I'm being downvoted for presenting facts about the city I live in, classic reddit.\n\nThey get cash for those items with a healthy helping of pride. The people doing this are almost 100% elderly emigrates who have no source of income and rely on their family. In some cultures this is shameful to the elderly parent, so they look for means to \"do their part\" which in itself is virtuous.\n\nThe issue is they're taking food meant for people who need food, which they clearly do not as they're able to sell it and not starve. The food purchased with public funds needs to reach mouths it's intended to feed rather than being a prideful side hussle so you can contribute a minute amount of income to your family so you're not a freeloader.", "Can someone explain this video? Why are they taking these peoples stuff?", "Well excuse me Mr. Boobs, but I don't really value your opinion very much. Stay poor, loser hahahhahahhhaaa..!", "Exactly. And rent isn't crazy high (though still somewhat expensive of course), public transit is great, and neighborhoods are extremely walkable.", "''Go be poor someplace else''", "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids all men to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets and to steal bread-the rich as well as the poor.", "Gotcha moment, like debunking straight up lies or what do you mean?\n\nKorea bad squid game parasite elderly poverty suicide rate plastic surgery. Better?", "Police enforcement? You expect her to pay even more?\n\nThis might come off as hostile, but when the pandemic calms down, you gotta take a trip to corrupt countries. Stay safe, but try to explore the nontourist spots. We got it good here (assuming you're from the US)", "I didn’t realize the prize money is only about $40 million.", "Yeah man, I'm literally a samsung heir.", "Somalia sounds like a dream then", "Social democracy is a type of capitalism, not socialism. It's just capitalism with a strong welfare state. Socialism is when the workers control the means of production.", "No my friend. Social democracy is a subtype of socialism in which the capitalist market is used to funnel funds for socialist policies.\n\nThere's no such thing as welfare capitalism. Welfare is a socialist policy.\n\nTHE OPPOSITE of socialistm", "Fuck elitist societies. It just sucks the soul out of everything that is beautiful", "What's 'regular size studio'? What's the square footage / square meters?", "Yeah, who needs context, it's poverty everywhere here in Korea. I'm literally tripping over homeless people laying on the streets. Despite the fact that [homelessness in South Korea is literally 6th lowest in the world](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_homeless_population).\n\nSorry my bad, Korea bad parasite squid game suicide rate elderly poverty plastic surgery.", "Because suicide rates are often tied to economic conditions, which is often combined with social pressures to attain a certain economic status in order to have what that society considers a normal life. Ex. Attaining a certain level of income to be able to have a family. \n\nAll of this can engender a feeling of despair and hopelessness when you don't live up to the societal standards for 'success' in a highly competitive environment, where your ability to succeed there determines so many aspects of your ability to have an okay life.", "> Police enforcement? You expect her to pay even more?\n\nHow silly of me to expect her to get services in return for taxes, like a functioning country. /s\n\n> but when the pandemic calms down, you gotta take a trip to corrupt countries\n\nNo thanks. I use a power wheelchair and am not going to subject my ~$20,000 custom mobility device (has extra features, is not a basic model) to the chance encounters and damages of travel, especially international travel to a (now) known corrupt country.", "You seem bitter. Have a drink.", "Fuck this k-pop shit country", "Where I live the gangs just set up foreign beggars on every street corner and public high traffic place during summer.", "Very true. In Taiwan I was struck by how important the relationship is with Japan, at least culturally speaking and quite likely diplomatically as well. \n\nTaiwan is at a very important nexus for so many issues and as you said, also technologically.", "Never measured. A midsize/large room with a kitchen and a small bathroom. No different than studio apartments I lived in in Europe.", "They were selling stuff, that stuff being stolen by the city. Seems there was boot strap pulling. Maybe take.your blinders off", "All this suiciding and South Korea still has 3rd highest average lifespan. The rest of the world must really suck, eh?", "I've never seen a video of NYC workers doing this. Just searched YouTube and found nothing.", "That explains your disconnect from real life if you're not a full blown liar.", "You ever had your IQ measured by any chance", "Norway is not a socialist country.", "Let me guess, you've measured yours.", "Fair enough! Ideally we would have more variety in housing options. Still some of the newer luxury style ones, but not every damn one being those. Unfortunately the margins on construction smaller and cheaper just aren't as good.", "But they do have other options. There are fleamarkets where they can sell their items. They're choosing to go outside of that system.\n\nThis isn't unique to SK. People sell shit illegally on the street in every big city, and they even fight over the best territory, because high traffic areas offer great sales potential.", "Guess it’s time to play the squid game.", "Haha right? There is always one of those, one man trying to fight the entire comment section by replying to everyone’s comment.", "I'm a foreign (European) student in Korea working part time to get by. The username is a joke. If you even considered I was a real Samsung heir then sorry to tell you but you're a raging moron.", "It's not that the margins aren't as good, it's that they're illegal to build.", "bro the people in the squid game where horrible people. The main character literally gambled away his mothers money. That ain't capitalism, that's just people being bad.", "Eat a bag of dicks. I'm not collecting these peoples things you dipshit. I'm saying that illegal street sales is a problem in every major city. These \"poor old people\" aren't having their heads busted open, they're having their items confiscated after being given multiple warnings to move.\n\nAlso wtf, you've got a 4 month old account with no comments? So you post dumb shit, it gets downvoted and then you delete literally everything? Okay /u/BrilliantWeb7558", "Capitalism 1 -Humanity 0", "You bothered looking at someone's post history instead of just fact-checking yourself? Fucking reddit dude.", "Norway's capitalism is tempered greatly by the socialist approach. Their oil fields are nationalised, they have high taxes and they provide a lot of things free at the point of access.", "Don't forget the kdrama with the heavily corrupted police force who is under almost complete control of the corporation's will", "Only part liar, got it.", "> The US population is growing. \n\nYes, but due to immigration; the birth rate for U.S. citizens has been declining for years.\n\nEdited for the grammar Nazi's", "Where's the lie? The wikipedia links I posted or\n\nHelp me out mate", "Yeah I'm 30, decent (grad degree required) job, it'll still be 5 years minimum before I'm remotely financially stable enough to have a kid.", "What exactly is misleading or sensationalist? It's irrelevant how \"developed\" the city is if its elderly are forced to do such things to survive.", "LOL you clearly have no idea what gotcha (no, not gacha) means in this context, and the fact that you just memed what I'm assuming is all of your country's stereotypes is you doing a Korea a disservice, not any of the people you're bitching at.\n\nEDIT: lol you're not even from there, you're just trying to white knight for some reason. Amazing. You're doing poorly.", "I'm reporting your name to NK and they're gonna come and get you.", "She's not entitled to the entire walkway. No one said she was homeless. Even then, just because you're homeless doesn't mean you get to impose your bullshit on other people. That's how you end up with absolute dumpster cities like Oakland and SF", "Nah. You did an IQ test, you'll figure it out.", "Autocorrect. Please go ahead and explain what you meant then. How did I meme any stereotypes by calling out utter bullshit?\n\n>A very large portion of SK people live in poverty, not just the elderly. Their minimum wage is like $5/hour while the COL is similar to cities like LA and Seattle. The country is tiny (a bit smaller than Kentucky) so it puts real estate at a premium. There aren't enough jobs available for skilled labor in relation to how many qualified people since Korea figured out that STEM education is the key to success. This drives down wages and greatly increases pressure on middle school & high school students since how you do in those pretty much determines how financially successful you will be in life there. Too much emphasis is put on prestige of colleges/test scores.\n\nThis comment is at 30 upvotes, while being a complete bullshit. I spose you're fine with that? Wage $5 an hour, COL comaprable to LA, large portion of SK living in poverty, and all that stuff. You're okay with lies because...?", "Jfc.", "Subways in the suburbs?", "Is this the good Korea?", "I see what you did there and I hate it.", "Have you just made a new acount to troll one specific post?", ">Your parents are the ones who should be responsible for raising and educating you, NOT others\n\nAre your parents you? America prospered on EQUAL OPPORTUNITY and every day that is being eroded even more. You don't get to choose whether you have a decent family or crackheads, we should be helping those people so they don't slip through the cracks and be a detriment to society.\n\n>When you were hungry you either hunted or farmed or traded or you died.\n\nAnd wasn't it great!? /s\n\nWe've come a long way from those times and it's because of our COLLECTIVE effort.\n\n>My parents paid their taxes. I pay my taxes. I don't \"enjoy the benefit\". I PAY FOR IT.\n\nAnd one way or another you pay for the things that taxes don't cover, whether that be someone stealing your stuff or getting laid off because people who would otherwise be customer's don't have the cash. You're buying the bargain bin society when you could be buying premium society for a little extra.\n\nIt's an investment in society, I spend the majority of my life working and paying my taxes so the next generation can go to school etc etc. When I'm done it's not unreasonable to expect some return on that investment.\n\n>Rugged individualism is what made America great.\n\nMost of the problems we suffer today are from the neo liberal policies of the 80s. Social safety nets have DECLINED in that time, minimum wage has barely increased whilst CEO salaries have skyrocketed. I'm not saying CEO's don't deserve more than an entry level worker, but they should rise together. What's the end game to this increasing imbalance?\n\n\n>One day I'll be old and living decently because I am saving up money, and don't plan to retire at all until I am physically unable to. At which point I will die.\n\nJust because you're choosing a miserable pointless existence doesn't mean you, or anyone else has to.\n\n>Life has no purpose other than the meaning YOU give it. So yes, in essence, \"slaving away\" is nothing more than \"staying alive\". You want to not work, and have someone pay for your expenses, so you can \"enjoy life\"? That's the most entitled shit i've read today.\n\nAnd the meaning I give it is to fight to make things better for all, not just slave away and waste oxygen so I can spend the little free time I have doing a shitty job of selling my miserable idea of existence. We've long past the point of just struggling to survive, why should we not all prosper.\n\nAnd back to my original point I WORK, I have a good job, I save for retirement and I pay my taxes. That wouldn't be possible if I didn't have welfare to help me along while I was studying. Now that they helped me, in just 2 years I've paid more than it cost society and will continue to pay more because investing in society, hence me, is a good investment. Now my employer has a skilled worker they otherwise wouldn't have, I'm paying double my taxes and I have money to spend on shit so other people can have jobs run a business etc.\n\nAs for these old people in Korea, they took the pay cut so the next generation didn't have to live in squalar. They helped rebuild a nation that was completely war torn, fire bombed to pieces. They didn't have the same opportunities that the newer generation does and that generation owes that fact to the old people. It's totally reasonable for them to get some help in their later years.\n\n>At which point I will die.\n\nHopefully sooner rather than later. Selfish, miserable, greedy cunts like you are whats wrong with the world. You can work hard and take care of yourself without being a prick.", "Don't worry. They will come back, and then some residents will report it to city again, and then the city workers will come and clean up again. It's the cycle of life.", "Common in London, trains above ground in the burbs and below ground in the city.", "tl dr \n\n\n\"i want to pay for a better world. but that's not enough. I want to force others to do it too.\"", "But if you didn't pay taxes who would steal from old people.", "What's the price here? Before and after please, every aspect if you don't mind.", "Wow, that's sad. I saw a documentary a couple years ago about an elderly Korean person who was living in Korea. But I wasn't expecting the situation to be this bad.", "Yea, for sure. If you're trying to look at every facet of a government through a capitalism vs socialism lens, then it'd be stupid to say it should be entirely capitalistic. That's a bad way to view things though.", "Pretty much. If people aren't going to choose to do the right thing, force them, I can't do it alone.\n\nIf you think humans aren't capable of engineering their own demise you haven't been paying attention", "If you take the government out then the corporations will find a way to stifle smaller businesses. That's what the free market does. You end up at the same spot except you cut out the middle man. There are monopolies even though we have regulations put in place to stop that. If you remove regulations then you're left with one company that can do what they want unregulated. It's pretty much common sense why there are no true free market countries. Now if that's what you want then our discussion is pretty much over.", "Billionaires didn't steal from the workers. They agreed to work, in exchange for payment.\n\nCONSENT IS A THING. \n\n\nAlso give me a small socialist government, can't wait to see that one.", "Sweet. When do you start implementing forced sterilization, forced labour, and other such great ideas?\n\n&#x200B;\n\nIf people don't like your idea, maybe it's not a good idea.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nBut then again, socialism is inherently authoritarian, so this is expected behaviour.", "Nice name, throwaway account", "Wow that's sad", ">When do you start implementing forced sterilization, forced labour, and other such great ideas?\n\nLol when you have nothing meaningful to add, reduce yourself to fallacy. reductio ad absurdum.\n\nYeah I'll pass on those.\n\n>If people don't like your idea, maybe it's not a good idea.\n\nYOU don't like my idea, a lot of people like my idea, not that it matters,a lot of people can be idiots too, take you for example. Can't imagine your idea of slaving until you can't contribute anymore then promptly dying is exactly popular.", "These are problems caused by the crony part of crony capitalism. The more incentive there is for corporations to influence the government and the more incentive there is for corruption (either legal or illegal). It can never be completely eliminated, but many of these attempts to \"regulate capitalism\" are just weakening the strong parts of capitalism and feeding the corrupt parts of cronyism.\n\nMost forms of \"pure capitalism\" suck because they try to apply ideas outside the scope where they work. Most inelastic goods and services like fire, police, and healthcare can't be trusted to private companies, but mistakes like this are placed on the entire idea of capitalism applied anywhere. It comes off the same as folks constantly holding up Mao as an example of why you need capitalism, it's just not talking about the same thing.", "Nah, it's a misinterpretation of \"[One EUSA intelligence officer estimated that the troops contributed 25% of South Korea's GNP in the 1960s](https://books.google.co.kr/books?id=trvxvL3_yywC&pg=PA44&dq=%22One+EUSA+intelligence+officer+estimated%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-7rTAjO7zAhWUxYsBHSH4DiUQ6AF6BAgCEAI#v=onepage&q=%22One%20EUSA%20intelligence%20officer%20estimated%22&f=false)\". And by \"the troops\" it meant the US army presence, not prostitution.\n\nDon't ever put any trust on Wikipedia.", "I dont know what rock you live under, but newsflash - there is no state housing in South Korea, or the US for that matter, that does a good job of housing the poor in reasonable conditions. \n\nSecond, it wasn't an encampment for living as much as an unregulated open air bazaar, so the pollution would be limited, and given that these are essentially just merchants trying to sell their goods, we would not expect a lasting destruction of the environment. \n\nYour argument reflects a worldview that is sheltered and privileged, and lacks any empathy for people suffering in the real world. \n\nI'd say you're in for a rude awakening but we have an entire party in America devoted to cruelty, and a highly lauded former Supreme Court Justice who did not believe that racism existed anymore, so who can say anymore.", "> ...but the concept isn't hard to grasp \n\nThe original concept is literally shitting on you. You'd think that wouldn't be hard to grasp.", "\"Please explain to me, in détails, things I don't understand\"\n\nNo I won't.", "Beyond discusting", "Hardly a fallacy, only the logical conclusion to your thought process \n\n\n\"if people won't do what's better for the collective, we will force them to\" \n\n\nIf your idea was popular then socialism would be the main type socio-politics in the world. Except every country that tried that inherently failed. \n\n\nBDemocracy isn't a great parameter anyways. That's the problem with it. Too many idiots in the world with equivalent voting power. \n\n\nTechnocracy is the way.", "I thought they had social programs. This was unexpected.", "Linguistically too. A lot of Taiwanese words, especially in manufacturing is derived from Japanese. For example, design tolerances are referred to as \"wasobe\" which comes from the Japanese \"遊ぶ\"(asobu) meaning \"play.\" Play is also the common parlance for machining in English. \n\nThere are even English loanwords that come to Taiwanese through Japanese. For example, Chinese phrase for aluminum is \"鋁(lü)\" but in Taiwanese it is \"arumi\" which comes from the Japanese word \"アルミ\"(arumi), a shortened transliteration of the word \"aluminum\" in English. \n\nReason for this is because the first reentry into the Taiwanese economy was from the Japanese. Many of whom grew up in Taiwan and wanted to \"come home.\" These folks are diaspora that left when Japan gave them a chance to become Japanese citizens. They were rich from the Japanese industrializing and infrastructuralizing Taiwan. And they were wealthy from the Japanese economic boom and were looking for a cheaper base of manufacturing.\n\nlove your username btw. On that thought, one of my favorite taro/rice/sweet potato ball spot in Taiwan is run by a Korean family. I saw their kid eating tteokbukki, and confirmed it when the kid switched from Mandarin with bits of Korean. I don't know their story. But I bet it's interesting.", "Consent isn't reeaally a thing in this case as far as the other option is if you don't make money, you just starve.\n\nI'd look up libertarian socialism and similar concepts. For a modern example, Rojava organized out of the Syrian civil war and has been so far promising. Despite the years of propaganda in the US, vanguard party communism is not the only leftist ideology", "Ah, even worse. Is it illegal everywhere tho? That seems like more of a local government ordinance type thing? I think I heard about it in California specifically at least. Could be wrong!", "Real life Squid Game.. saddening. Most cities would ask them to move along to another place by using police", "Come on man you have god-awful attitude. Literally replying with your IQ insult and you can't take it.", "Consent is a thing. Nobody is forcing you to work. Nobody is forcing you to starve. \n\n\nComplain to your body for requiring food. It's the only thing forcing you to do anything. \n\n\nLeft-wing libertarianism doesn't exist. Socialist economic policy is inherently opposite of freedom.", "Minimum wage in South Korea is about $8", "What. How does that make sense", "Yeah, it's local ordinances, but I don't know if anywhere in CA would allow the construction of actual microapartments.", "As I pointed out above, the original quote was \"[One EUSA intelligence officer estimated that the troops contributed 25% of South Korea's GNP in the 1960s](https://books.google.co.kr/books?id=trvxvL3_yywC&pg=PA44&dq=%22One+EUSA+intelligence+officer+estimated%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-7rTAjO7zAhWUxYsBHSH4DiUQ6AF6BAgCEAI#v=onepage&q=%22One%20EUSA%20intelligence%20officer%20estimated%22&f=false)\", which by \"the troops\" it meant the US army presence, not prostitution. For the sake of humanity stop using Wikipedia as the source for your information especially on East Asia.", "Squid Game is hyper-korean in it's subtext, the character interactions, the sense of duty and family, the social status and uses of familiar/honorific tones. The theme of inequality unfortunately has grown to have universal appeal.", "I watched a documentary on YouTube where they interviewed people from North Korea that escaped and now lived in South Korea. They were surprised about the stuff in stores, the high rises, the tech, the opportunities, etc. but when they asked them if they are happy in South Korea, they all said no because at least in North Korea, people had the same things such as an apartment, a job, similar clothing, etc. They did not feel poor there because everyone is poor but in South Korea, the difference in economic status and the goods available makes them feel poor and stressed that they should always be working more to earn more.", "Why are we so shitty to each other?", "I'm sorry, I'm too busy being perplexed about how you (or someone else equally invested in this thread, but probably you!) reported me to Reddit for suicide watch. That must have helped you feel better, so I'm glad you're taking steps to take care of yourself.\n\nAlso lol \"sitting at 30 upvotes\" like it's some insanely viral comment.", "I mean you can call it propaganda but for some of us it's just living in the systems.", "What are you confused about? The population increase in the US is due to people immigrating from other countries, not from children being born.", "Was I wrong to question his intelligence after he called me a heir to Samsung?\n\nWas he right to reply with the same insult as a cop out to not have to answer after I asked in which comment/part I lied?\n\nMan, seems like you're totally unbiased (sarcasm!!)", "City workers be like that some times\n\nKilling a dude over looseys ffs", "The comma should have been a period.", "My apologies, I was corrected further down. It was about $5/hour in 2015/2016 when my now wife and I started dating. She is from South Korea and told me about it back then. Didn't realize it had risen so quickly!", "Busy bodies are humanitiy's enemy", "electromagnetism is an 'ism' that works perfectly from top to bottom.", "I think that's more a commentary on modern life than anything. By pretty much anyone standards, living in South Korea is much better than North. Let's make sure we have that straight.", "Man no worries, reap those upvotes without editing your comment to correct yourself. You're totally not a bad faith actor.\n\nCost of living comparable to LA xDDDDDDD", "I mean I gave you a real world example of it existing in the present day, but it's pretty clear you're not actually speaking in good faith here so meh", "Yeah, I agree. South Korea sucks because not everyone is poor.", "Obviously it looks pretty harsh and cold, but this is something happening in most major cities. Selling your market wares on streets with high traffic is effective, but it's also disrupting for the people of the city trying to walk when large portions of the walking space is taken up by people trying to peddle their wares. As such making it illegal to just set up shop selling stuff on a random street is a very reasonable law, and enforcing that law is reasonable too.\n\nOf course if these old people have to do this to make a decent living then policies should change to help them get a proper retirement, and additionally flea markets and similar areas should be created where people like this can still sell their goods. I don't know enough about the country in the video to say if that is the case or not there. \n\nRegardless though this is not evil, this is necessary. We can't have laws we don't enforce, and I doubt anyone would want the kind of cities we would end up with if we didn't have these kind of laws.", "And then the NYPD wore shirts that said \"I can breath\" mocking Garners \"I cant breath\" because they are literally evil. \n\n\n[https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/i-can-breathe-shirts/](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/i-can-breathe-shirts/) \n\n\nI post the snopes article because a lot of people think it was in relation to Flyod.", "I am speaking in good faith. Syria is still under authoritarian republic with mixed economy. so no, it isn't full socialist nor small government", "Why would I edit it when like half the stuff you have been saying is on the basis of $5/hour vs $8/hour? I'm trying to maintain the integrity of the points you've been making. I have been upvoting you by the way. I learned some of what I knew about SK was outdated and you have educated me on some things and I appreciate that.", "Huh? That’s definitely grammatically correct and cleaner as a comma. Am I missing something?\n\nEdit to clarify: commenter I’m responding to was actually answering the rhetorical question in the comment above, not correcting its grammar. He/she is correct that the second comma in the comment 3 levels up from here should have been a period.", "If you don't know anything about how the world works, especially police in many foreign countries, then why did you comment in the first place? In many places around the world you really don't want to have any interaction with police.", "Something to do with your comment having 60 upvotes and my comments being downvoted to hell and now having to be expanded to even be visible. There's no conversation to be read anymore. I feel quite baffled, I wonder why this happens\n\nCost of living comparable to LA made my day though.", "> Yes, but due to immigration, the birth rate for U.S. citizens has been declining for years.\n\nWith the comma after \"immigration\" the sentence is saying that the immigration is the cause of US birthrates declining. That makes no sense. Change it to a period and the two sentences will mean the US population continues to grow because of immigration despite declining birth rates.", "Maybe, was South Korea’s GDP lower than its GNP in the 1960s? Been googling to try to find out myself but can’t seem to find any concrete answers.", "Pyramid scheme?", "What a shithole", "> If you don't know anything about how the world works, especially police in many foreign countries, then why did you comment in the first place?\n\nYou commented in a public forum, thus inviting comment. Further, I do know about corrupt countries, but that would not stop me from speaking up.\n\n> In many places around the world you really don't want to have any interaction with police.\n\nI don't WANT to have interaction with police, but sometimes they are needed. If she gets no satisfaction, go up the chain to their superiors, such as a city council.\n\nShe deserves not to be bullied, and should stand up for her rights, or have friends help her.\n\nJust because corruption is a thing does not mean that people should roll over and accept it as a way of life.", "Oh boy, we've reached the age of Squid Game...", "Wow. Who needs nuanced discussions?", "You do realize that \"there\" refers to a place that isn't \"here,\" right? Again, if it's becoming anyone against anyone, it's because of you. \n\nI don't owe you an explanation lol, but there's a huge difference between lying and the comment you're (still???) debating with others. Keep fighting the not really good or useful fight!", "I think you’re reading it wrong friend but I actually don’t even understand what you mean here. The comma is perfectly placed, the message is in tact, and replacing it with a period makes the resulting follow-up sentence an incomplete one.\n\nEdit: omg we’re talking about different comments my dude. I’m talking about the one you responded to, you’re talking about the one two levels up. You might want to clarify that.", "The people said they wouldn't want to move back to North Korea so I think it's more like ignorance is bliss.", "Couldn't agree more. \n\nLived in Korea for years and these illegal vendors were the bane of my commute. Constantly blocking heavy traffic sidewalks with counterfeit knockoff goods. Get a license like everyone else or accept the risk that you might lose maybe $20 worth of goods every once in a blue moon.", "You wouldn't find any 'concrete answer' on this because you were completely misled by Wikipedia. As I noted below, the original quote is \"[One EUSA intelligence officer estimated that the troops contributed 25% of South Korea's GNP in the 1960s](https://books.google.co.kr/books?id=trvxvL3_yywC&pg=PA44&dq=%22One+EUSA+intelligence+officer+estimated%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-7rTAjO7zAhWUxYsBHSH4DiUQ6AF6BAgCEAI#v=onepage&q=%22One%20EUSA%20intelligence%20officer%20estimated%22&f=false)\", it is not referring to the figures of prostitution but the US army presence's contribution to the economy. How many times I have to repeat this I'll have no idea.", "I did not say that South Korea sucks. I was just saying that to them back then, ignorance was bliss. Though they left so it probably wasn't that blissful. They were also adjusting to life in South Korea since their education did not set them for success in South Korea. But they had no intentions of going back so I guess they are content in Soth Korea.", "I live in Seoul. That area of Jongno has so many merchants selling on the street. Those people were selling a little bit outside where literally thousands of people can sell whatever they want daily. That bridge is over the Cheonggyecheon which is a modern recreation area. I guess bi-law officials just don’t want them selling past where the bridge starts. \n\nThat being said I think this was too excessive and I agree with most of the comments here.", "Please fact check the 25% number yourself then. Claiming the \\~50K US soldiers stationed in Korea were somehow producing 25% of the nation's GDP (about $750 million USD) by paying for sex would mean each soldier spend like $15,000 a year on prostitutes. Adjusting for inflation, that would $139,000 in 2021 dollars. That makes no sense. Similarly the Samsung 25% GDP claim (also sneakily edited in after my comment) is also BS. \n\n\nProstitution was around way before the Americans arrived in South Korea and was always a big part of the culture and economy in Korea, which was especially highlighted when GDP dropped off a cliff and prostitutes were still making money after the war was over. I believe what we have here some statistical cherry picking by an academic, published 20 years ago and referenced in a wiki article, that was trying to argue a point about the primacy of prostitution in Korean culture historically in the broader context of Korean masculinity. Then that is picked up and run with on a wikipedia page and these reddit comments somehow claiming authority on the subject and attempting to falsely attribute that money to US troops being total whoremongers and the government pimping their women at the US bases... It's all just a bit much... Especially when you look at the comment history of constantly trying to be a reddit authority on tons of different subjects.", "South Korea has a distressingly large problem with homeless elderly and seniors living below the poverty line. I watched a mini doc about this very topic awhile ago, but I can't remember where on YouTube.\n\n[This NPR story from 2015 put the elderly poverty figure as high as 50 per cent](https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/04/10/398498496/a-forgotten-generation-half-of-s-koreas-elderly-live-in-poverty).", "I consider any fight that consists of debunking bullshit worthwhile, especially since I suffer from insomnia and have nothing better to do. I wonder how many thousands of people got completely brainfucked by the takes in this thread but I guess that's ok. Challenging misinformation is bad I suppose\n\nKeep upvoting lies and lowkey racism, that seems to be your fight!", "Interesting, the [source for that quote](https://web.archive.org/web/20130430220310/http://koreajoongangdaily.joinsmsn.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2896741) says:\n\n>\tCamptown prostitution and related businesses on the Korean Peninsula contributed to nearly 25 percent of the Korean GNP, according to Katharine Moon, a professor of political science at Wellesley College, in a 2002 study.\n\nDid the 2002 study really fuck up that bad?", ">Hardly a fallacy, only the logical conclusion to your thought process\n\nWanting people to chip in to lift the bottom of society doesn't mean that the best way is forced sterilization and forced labour. We're technically already in the latter stage given there's enough people who have no choice but to accept slave wages due to any reasonable alternatives. Personally I think businesses that pay so little are ultimately a detriment to society, they're taking up someone's life so they can fold socks or something stupid instead of getting an education or starting a business.\n\n>If your idea was popular then socialism would be the main type socio-politics in the world. Except every country that tried that inherently failed.\n\nI'm not suggesting down and out socialism, but it's not like it doesn't have good ideas that we could implement. There's plenty of successful countries that lean slightly towards communism without buying the whole thing. Thinking you can govern by ideology is stupid regardless which ideology, things are nuanced and neither Marx nor Adam Smith had all the answers, particularly when you consider how much things have changed since they lived.\n\n>Technocracy is the way.\n\nAt least we agree on something. The true value of democracy is that it gives the people in power incentive to look after the people, not that the majority will make the best decisions in their own interest, nor anyone else. Problem is how do you create a technocracy whilst still ensuring that those in power serve the people? That's the question that I've struggled to find a good answer for. All I know is most people have no idea what's good for them or how a country runs.", "This phenomenon is called [Mallification](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li1i9b0vUPs).", "This is actually part of my job in London.\n\nWe try to get people to get licensed and set up properly, once you have a license you have rights.\n\nIt also means we know you are insured, are not selling dangerous or illegal goods and then we work towards helping you improve your buisness.\n\nI have perhaps confiscated from two people, one selling hooky tracksuits in the middle of the pandemic when we had been forced to shut down all legal traders that were not selling essential items.\n\nAfter restrictions lifted we got him sorted with a license and he now also has a small shop on the side of the market.\n\nThe other was a bunch of stolen bedding and pillows from Irish travellers who would basically intimidate people into buying them, I had to have the police help with that one, and they were not interested in being licensed.\n\nI don't know the laws in SK but I can tell you that in London licensed street traders have a lot of rights, although most of them don't realise it and often try to bribe me for doing what is my job anyway, which is hilarious but tbh it is kinda how it used to work back in the day.", "you're very annoying.", "I googled \"what is life like in cuba\" and I read the following article. While basics are provided, I still would not want to live like that.\n\nhttps://shershegoes.com/life-in-cuba-castro/\n\nAnd another article on life in Cuba [https://anywhereweroam.com/cuba-today/](https://anywhereweroam.com/cuba-today/) where the author says...\n\n> For all its challenges, life in Cuba today is fascinating. It is a country where you can witness the impact of capitalist and communist systems; where the people are adapting to a complex mix of ideologies and changing freedoms.\n\nSounds a LOT like what I said, a mix of capitalism and socialism. They just have more socialism that capitalism.\n\nAnd further says\n\n> The creation of private businesses is dramatically improving the quality and choice available for tourists and bringing wealth to those Cubans who can take advantage of it. But it also comes at a cost. This once egalitarian society is now split between those that have access to tourist dollars and those that do not.\n\nHmmm. Same issue of those that have versus those that do not.", "So you should be allowed to set up stop anywhere and sell anything you want with no check or ballances.\n\nI tell you what happens next, the guy who runs the megashop next door comes out and takes over the entire street.", "Utterly callous and nothing more.", "I hope you guys all realize that squid game was a documentary.", "That's not a source, the actual source is this article:\n\n>https://web.archive.org/web/20130430220310/http://koreajoongangdaily.joinsmsn.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2896741\n\nWithin which this quote:\n\n>Camptown prostitution and related businesses on the Korean Peninsula contributed to nearly 25 percent of the Korean GNP, according to Katharine Moon, a professor of political science at Wellesley College, in a 2002 study.\n\nI don't know how credible the study is, but it clearly was important enough for the Park government to have them organise it.", "The referenced 2002 study in fact is the Korean edition of the book I just quoted above. If there was a fuck up it's entirely on the author of the article.", "Oh now, that’s sad news! I too remember her really really well!", "> you're very annoying.\n\nTruth often is. So are opinions, and it's in my name.\n\nIf you don't want people to comment, then don't post on a public forum.", "Old people are inherently reliant on others to live, same as children. The difference is just how to structure it. As long as we have a government, we should do our best to help our older folks", "Ok people of the internet lets get to work by helping these poor older people", "Confiscation with no remuneration. Nice.", "States tend towards a monopolization of space. Giant, centralized, single-use locations are easier to police and control from the top than organic, bottom-up urbanism. That goes for corporations too, which is why you really only see giant brand names in malls. Malls themselves are built like prisons and since the land is privately owned, they can force out people they don't like(homeless, teenagers, minorities) for offenses as simple as loitering. A real city is a space where where many new and conflicting ideas can meet and where the best ideas win, not the ones that reinforce power structures. More detail in this [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/urbanplanning/comments/po0gj7/strong_towns_zoning_and_bigness/hculxsu/). \n\n\nr/OurRightToTheCity is a sub I made for anyone interested in organic urbansim.", "Ah yes, the U.S government's way of making the elite pay their dues with tax breaks and incentives.\n\nFuck off retard.", ">Wanting people to chip in to lift the bottom of society doesn't mean that the best way is forced sterilization and forced labour. We're technically already in the latter stage given there's enough people who have no choice but to accept slave wages due to any reasonable alternatives. Personally I think businesses that pay so little are ultimately a detriment to society, they're taking up someone's life so they can fold socks or something stupid instead of getting an education or starting a business.\n\nWhen the basis of your argument is \"let's force people to do what's best\", inevitably you start going into extremely authoritarian territory. Too many people? Sterilization or 1 child policy. Too many prisoners? Forced labor. So on. \n\n\nAnd great idea: let's make companies close positions that pay too little. That way, we have MORE unemployment. GENIUS!\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>I'm not suggesting down and out socialism, but it's not like it doesn't have good ideas that we could implement. There's plenty of successful countries that lean slightly towards communism without buying the whole thing. Thinking you can govern by ideology is stupid regardless which ideology, things are nuanced and neither Marx nor Adam Smith had all the answers, particularly when you consider how much things have changed since they lived.\n\nOh, there are no good ideas to implement, they all invariably fail at being good when they FORCE people to work to pay for the welfare. Freeloaders everywhere as well!\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>At least we agree on something. The true value of democracy is that it gives the people in power incentive to look after the people, not that the majority will make the best decisions in their own interest, nor anyone else. Problem is how do you create a technocracy whilst still ensuring that those in power serve the people? That's the question that I've struggled to find a good answer for. All I know is most people have no idea what's good for them or how a country runs.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nThe thing is, the government doesn't need to have all the power it has. People need to look after themselves, government should only be trusted, and limited, by its constitution, to only take care of public security services: Police, army, courts, and such. \n\n\nLimited government scope means limited power and thus limited use of it to further own interests, whereas a big, paternalist welfare state opens the doors to a myriad of self-interest decisions and corruption. As is tradition.", "For those who are only reading the headline... They aren't confiscating goods of those walking by. They are confiscating goods of those trying to sell goods on the street (ie those trying to \"get by\" in life)", "Actually I think a semicolon would be perfect in that situation.", ">Bong Joon-Ho more noble because he makes movies to become filthy stinking rich\n\nFucking lol this shows how much you miss the fucking point. He isn't fucking close to filthy rich. A $40 millionaire is nothing compared to a multibillionaire.", "Why should we? What do I owe to old people that aren't from my family? They didn't raise me. Same way that I shouldn't be forced to raise kids of others because they decided to have offspring without the means to raise them. \n\n\nThat's what you need: a family, or a well thought out economic plan for your savings. NOT forcing others to pay for your life", "Not enough people realize that. It’s cute that Americans are into Korean stuff now, but I hope that $$ actually reaches more than just a few people in Seoul like now.", "No thanks. I'll continue to work hard and reap the benefits of it.", "Yes, in the second comment. I was just explaining the misunderstanding.", "Korea has a poverty problem that mostly affects the elderly. I lived in Korea for years and saw old women collecting scraps of cardboard for recycling every night, and it was heartbreaking. I really wish the Ministry of Health and Welfare would do something to help them.\n\nBut this video doesn't show the whole picture.\n\nIllegal vendors like these are the bane of every commute. They block high traffic areas inside and outside of subways selling cheap counterfeit US branded goods. They can get a license, they can sell in the proper areas, but they chose not to. Because they can then compete at a lower price point than the legit sellers who have to pay license fees and taxes.\n\nThey are choosing to sell this way because they accept the risk of losing maybe $20 worth of imported Chinese goods once in a blue moon when the city swoops down on them (which I never saw in my entire time there).\n\nI know this looks like elites shitting on poor people, but there's much more to the story than this one minute video shows.", "I like the way you think", "Yeah, it's unfortunate that everyone wants things handed to them. Once people realize they are on there own, it becomes a lot easier to get through life.", "Apprenticeships or military service are excellent options for those people.", "Sadly though the comma that should have been an “and” and the period converted to a semi-colon or colon", "I didn't upvote the \"lies,\" and you have literally no reason to say I'm racist except I referred to a place that wasn't in my immediate vicinity as \"there.\"\n\nI can tell you have nothing better to do. Fighting the entirety of the comments section hasn't done anything for your cause but make you look pedantic.\n\nBye!", ">Others will be involved along the way.\n\nI agree others are involved. But without independent hard work, you won't get anywhere.", "Dude, from my old apartment to my mother in laws place, it was 2 hours on the same line. No transfers, just going from Northeast Seoul to a suburb city in the southwest.", "more like \"oppressing grandma style\"", ">Others will be involved along the way.\n\nI said this. The point is to work for what you want and don't fully rely on society to pick you up.", "The study itself is one thing, the article for some reason invented the line on prostitution contributing 25% of GNP. The original quote from the said study is \"[One EUSA intelligence officer estimated that the troops contributed 25% of South Korea's GNP in the 1960s](https://books.google.co.kr/books?id=trvxvL3_yywC&pg=PA44&dq=%22One+EUSA+intelligence+officer+estimated%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-7rTAjO7zAhWUxYsBHSH4DiUQ6AF6BAgCEAI#v=onepage&q=%22One%20EUSA%20intelligence%20officer%20estimated%22&f=false)\".", "It's a metaphor...", "Really nice misleading title", "No.", "Without a period or semicolon after 'immigration', it reads as if immigration is the cause of the birth rate declining.", "Korea has social problems like other countries, yes. Curious though, why can't those people in the video get a license?", "Fuck that's a great quote", "Well, yeah. You still have to make intelligent decisions. You do whatever you want with zero consequences. Part of hard work is spending a lot of time planning your life.", "way to serve your citizens, SK government\n\nno worries, the gulliotine will remind you but itll be too late for you to weasel your way out.", "nice posturing. Instead of trying to seem edgy, maybe take the problem seriously?", "So a lot like the U.S.", "Yes but a quick reminder that not all Koreans have crippling debt and punch each other on the subway while playing games", "Yeah, there’s quite a few ways it could have been arranged correctly, but u/Admiral_Akdov did a good job identifying the original point of confusion and explaining it efficiently in their first comment. I don’t think they were at any point trying to say what the best way to write the comment was, it’s just unclear which comment they’re referring to without the follow-up.\n\nAlso I love that we can have such a long chain of discussion about very minor grammar corrections on Reddit lmao", "I have absolutely no idea, I do know however that nearly every single country follows the same procedures so the fact that this reached the front page of this sub and the comment section is full of Squid Game references is making me lose my mind! :))))", "Gangnam style gum", "> there's nothing codified in any capitalist country's constitution that prevents vulnerable people from being completely thrown under the bus to secure profits when shit hits the fan\n\nCodifying positive rights in some legal document doesn't mean those guarantees actually exist when needed. The history of communist and socialist regimes makes that very clear", "> for some to prosper others have to suffer.\n\nThis is such a huge fallacy. Mercantilism was discredited like 300 years ago, wealth is not zero sum, and exploitation (in the actual sense not the labor-theory-of-value one) happens under all economic regimes because we are monkeys who take things from each other when we can get away with it", "It's tiring to repeat the line but don't take your information from Wikipedia. Yes, the government actively promoted prostitution for economic reasons but with 25% figure nonsense you are trying to attribute Korea's economic success on it, which is extremely offensive.", "Oh I see haha", "You are free to provide the financial details at your leisure. It is irrefutable during that time period, a state-sponsored prostitution campaign targeting American GIs station in the country earned a massive amount of wealth which played a huge part in the souths economic recovery. Another example of just how entrenched and integral these activities became in Korean, The first ever double eyelid surgery (which contributed to the rise of the popular plastic surgery culture which exists in Korea now) were performed by an American army Doctor originally sent to the country to perform cleft palate operations on children as a token of goodwill. Working girls were drawn to this surgeons double eyelid procedure as it apparently resulted in greater earning potential from their customers. This is a story topic, and I have had some people send me a wealth of period and recent articles on various aspects. Ill try to find some when I have time. Either way, the details may be debatable but the root activity and its implications cannot be denied", "Crazy bitch\nOr crazy bastard. Means a bit of both", "Never forget that South Korea started off as a dictatorship", "I already provided the details of your faulty reference to an Wikipedia article as well as the original quote from an actual study on the topic. I don't think it's only about the details anymore but your credibility as well. I don't know where you've got this story on eyelid surgery but that hardly helps your cause.", "nah, I respect your right to delete comments.", "Like Parasite", "Based on what I've observed as an American from Korean TV/film, it seems like they don't even provide the elderly with health insurance or any kind of public stipend. If you or your husband didn't spend your entire life working for one of the big companies and get your benefits through them, you basically have to get your kids to provide for you or you're screwed.\n\nIn America, even if you don't qualify for Social Security (which is already a fairly low bar since you only need to have worked 10 years over the course of your whole life unless you're disabled), you can get SSI, which is not a lot but it's something and between that and state/local housing assistance for seniors, you at least have a roof over your head. If you can't pay your Medicare premiums, Medicaid covers them for you.\n\nAnd we're not a country that's very generous towards poor people in general. I would have thought that Korea, with all its emphasis on respecting your elders and being dutiful to your parents, wouldn't be so callous toward these people.", "As a South Korean living in the States, I can assure you it was already worse. I don't ever want to go back.", "There's a decent number of street vendors in Mexico City. Not sure how many of them are licensed or not, but the culture there seems to be relatively accepting of people selling you stuff in random places", "Your reply is more annoying than the one I commented on.", "Yeah but socialism is when no house :(", "It's really apparent if you have kids when you are younger. My stepson was both when his mom was 20 and I'm only a few years older than her.\n\nIt was hard making friends with the other parents because they were a LOT closer to OUR parent's age than to ours. It's exhausting enough to raise a kid in your 20s and 30s. I can't imagine doing it in your 40s and 50s. Those kids are going to be going to college when you SHOULD be retiring.\n\nThat's the thing, it completely fucks up the rhythm of your financial lifecycle. There are supposed to be four major financial impacts in your life: graduating / getting your first real job, having kids, sending them to college, retiring.\n\nThat only works because those events are spread out enough to allow you to build up security to handle them. You put them all together and it's a mess.\n\nWe also used to be able to count on an inheritance at some point, but our parents are going to live forever and had us young, so that's not going to do a damned thing. I'll probably be 70 when my mom dies (not that I want her to).", "Where did you see that the birth rate is declining. There’s people with 8 kids on welfare with no jobs left and right in the USA suckling on the teet of Uncle Sam", ">Yes, but due to immigration, the birth rate for U.S. citizens has been declining for years.\n\nWhy are you arguing something that's so easy to prove wrong? Once again the rate is decreasing, but it's still positive. [5 seconds of google would've told you this](https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/birth-rate)", "Why is this being downvoted\nIt's true, a city named Gyeoggi 경기도 in korea started a universal basic income as of last year", "Unlike the US they don't want their cities to become filthy shit holes. Good for them.", "Yeah we could let social security collapse, or, you know, actually tax the rich to cover it...", "Squid Game Season 2 players here we go.", "Australia does this too.", "That'll teach 'em for being poor and desolate! ^/s", "Yeah, can't believe they let them get away with paying no taxes for this long.", "This is the same in Cambodia. I went too a \"zoo\" in one of the provinces and the road leading up to the place is lined with elderly people just camping out, literally begging for anything it was heart breaking, my wife knows it very well and it still shakes her when she thinks about it.", "Yeah, it is. South Korea has one of the highest suicide rates in the world and its mostly the elderly", "It's fucking infuriating.", "Damn I thought South Korea was all about riding inflating swans.", "I did. Why'd you call me back to the thread?", "The person who responded to you is the person who self deleted his comment, he's lying to save face lol.", "Vietnam is very, very different from the West. Their government doesn't really help poor people at all, it's mostly just left up to individuals to hustle their way through life. Police there seem to exist to enrich themselves and protect the rich, not to help some random shop owner.\n\nIf you've never been to Southeast Asia or studied anything about it, you can't really safely assume much of anything about their culture. Despite the corruption, it's hands down my favorite place I've ever traveled.", "The fertility rate has been declining steadily in the US foir years... It's currently below replacement rate.", "I mean 40 million dollars is a shit load, but it isn't \"murder 400+ people\" money, 40 billion would have made it more realistic to a western audience.", "You need to look up fertility rate, not birth rate. It's currently at 1.781, below the theoretical 2 for replacement.", "All \"workers are stupid\" means is that the company with someone specialized and trained in running and organizing a company running the company will be far more efficient than the one with burger flippers voting over what happens. It isn't a statement of worth or value.\n\nThe serfs and nobles is great moralizing but it isn't an argument for socialism as heirarchies would still exist under socialism, just less transparent and more insidious ones. There is a benefit to having clear heirarchies and liability chains.", "I meant in regards to the rich people sponsoring the game. Whatever you say about them they did give you the money at the end. But for real wealth 40 million isnt much of anything.\n\nAlso lets do the math. If you pay 456 people 18 bucks an hour for a year thats 16,416,00. You are playing a game that takes the worth of a person on the poorer side of the spectrum times 2 and giving it to one guy.\n\nSo really. 40 million aint shit. Those rich dudes probably pay more in wages for the billion dollar corporations they head. This is just them playing some games.", "Buying a little too much into the welfare queen propaganda matey.", "They seem like opposites to me. They are not, however, a dichotomy.", "Yeah, I'm not going to take this on face value. But we can reasonably say that it was important enough to the economy if the government was so invested into its continuation.", "You should make an edit to the Wikipedia page. It's pretty quick. I feel like I have no idea whats going on or I would.", "Because the guy above said the US population is declining which is supposedly why there aren't young people to pay into social programs...but it's not, it's just growing more slowly, with immigration offsetting the decline in births.", "Modernity makes family pointless is my unfortunate experience.", "damn Korea is as shitty as America. good thing we saved them in the 50s!", "Horrifying", "Fuck korea. They keep up appearances but don't play fair at all.", "It's just the elderly.\n\nYou can filter by age on the official oecd website:\n\n[https://data.oecd.org/inequality/poverty-rate.htm#indicator-chart](https://data.oecd.org/inequality/poverty-rate.htm#indicator-chart)\n\nPoverty rate is significantly first for 66+.\n\nFor the 18-65 bracket, they're at pretty average OECD levels.\n\nUS is actually the 2nd highest in poverty rate for the OECD for people between 18-65.", "It's called population replacement", "Unregulated Capitalism assigns no value to unproductive humans. Which is why it’s a mistake to base policy on it. And why we see stuff like this all the time. There are more kinds of value than can be measured with the state currency.", "Try to save while you're a farmer, I sure asf won't starve anytime soon but not many people want to come through to buy organic heirloom shit out in the buttfuck of nowhere. \n\n\nWhat bills do you have? You can make it work but I doubt you have a garden, good news, foodstamps can be used to buy seeds.", "Honey, it already did.", "What Korea allows its elderly to endure is fucking disgusting. Old ladies bent over at the back. Can’t walk straight. And digging through trash to find tiny bits of whatever they can to recycle.", "Why did you come back, have something smart to say?", "I’m sorry, but what percentage of government sponsored prostitution targeting foreign troop and exploiting domestic women right on the heels of the previous occupation would you not find offensive? Of course it’s inflammatory, it’s a terrible thing.\n\nPlease understand that I don’t not speak about these matters lightly or to cause ill will, but pushing such events and matters under the rug for being uncomfortable or problematic contributes to and continues the exact same isolation and lack of recognition these people have suffered with. Japan doesn’t want to talk about what happened during occupation. people today don’t want to talk about how desperate the postwar years were. Yes, a lot of the numbers like “25% of GNP” almost certainly stem from the incredibly disproportionate value of US currency in that time coupled with the completely shattered state of the domestic economy, but the fact remains that these women made huge, untold sacrifices which played no small part in helping the country get back on its feet", ">Earlier this month, the street vendors went so far as to bring a shipping container, rather than tents, to the middle of Gangnam Boulevard. When the district office tried to confiscate it, dozens of merchants stepped in to try to stop them. \n\nThat's not something a couple poor old people barely getting by can arrange. \n\nWhile it doesn't directly mention the criminal gangs behind them, that's been covered in other articles I'll have to dig up. This came to a head several years ago and around that time there were several articles covering this, this was one I'd saved. \n\nAt the time there were also vendors called in from other areas to fight and protest. The districts had repeatedly tried to ticket these people and shut them down by regardless of anything they did to them, they just kept coming back and breaking the law. The only action left to them was to physically take their stuff.", ">... they were probably given many warnings, like \"if I come back and it's still here, it's getting confiscated\" and they chose to risk losing their things. \n\nI want to point out, based on what you've said, that this is complete speculation. You're inventing a scenario where stealing goods from poor old people is somehow justified. That's pretty fucked up.", "Korea is where the US was a decade ago. The whole world is circling the drain.", "China is basically a preview of end stage capitalism.", "They're an organized group that repeatedly breaks multiple laws, how else would you characterize them?", "Yup, I wrote that originally but I must have misread the snopes article when I skimmed it so I took it out. \n\nThanks for both adding it back in, and liking a source so people can know for sure.\n\nWhat absolute pieces of trash. I wouldn't, but I can understand standing by someone you knew and supporting them, if only because it can be hard to grasp that people we know can do terrible things.\n\nBut to openly mock the death, and act like it wasn't a big deal? IMHO all of the officers who wore those shirts should have been fired and removed from any pensions/benefit programs.\n\nThere is no excuse of acting that way.", "Or, maybe I'm going into some deep asf shit that you gotta slow the fuck down with. I fucking farm, you wanna swap seeds because I would love too but these people still didn't save enough seed while alive to survive on in the future metaphorically speaking, you think farming a plot will get you anything but being a fat fuck? \n\n\nI'm lucky asf sure, but it's not like you gonna say you can't save, if that means getting the lights turned off while you have a producing garden so that you can save up to buy some new equipment to automate the process then so be it. \n\n\nThe means of production are not trapped behind doors, you have been able to for decades order commercial/industrial grade items if you spend the time to save and look into those items. \n\n\nI have like 4 years worth of food jarred up, it'll be a hell of a 4 years eating the same shit but I got 4 years worth of prep, in food alone. You gonna keep shooting down people and throwing others up but maybe everyone should be on the floor for this one.", "Oh damn, there's a Flea Market?!\n\nA person in a wheelchair is going to roll themselves down to the Flea Market with all of their sellable goods, set up a table and sell all of their items for the same profit margin as selling in a high traffic area?\n\nThat's amazing, if only more of them knew of this awesome opportunity and didn't need to do either of these things to survive.\n\nAre you going to help all of them move their shit down to this \"flea market\"? PM me your number and I'll let them know who to reach out to in the future", "That's pretty much the same for many western countries. That's why we have immigration. Need it to keep capitalism wheels churning.", "Income inequality is much worse in the US. Korea doesn't have many people sleeping on the streets, just a handful of people with PTSD in Seoul. \n\nIt's gonna be like the US soon though if things don't change.", "Whatever you say you narcissistic psychopathic sack of shit", "If you think that is bad check out this doc: [Loyal Citizens of Pyongyang in Seoul](https://youtu.be/BkUMZS-ZegM)", "So what's your solution? People are allowed to sell anything they want anywhere they want? Do you have to have a wheelchair to sell? You have to be over a certain age to sell? Where are people not allowed to sell things? Or do you not have any solutions at all, and you just like hearing yourself talk?", "Desperate", "Revolt against the flee market elite! Take back the comic book and teapot stalls!", "no, you're not \"tending towards that\". Despite being reddit's darlings, the Nordic countries have freer markets and lower corporate taxes than the US. They are just as, if not more, \"late stage capitalist\" than the US.", "They most likely aren't homeless. Homelessness isn't nearly as bad as it is in the US... yet. You never see people sleeping on the street. A handful of people near Seoul Station which is a weird spot, but across Korea it's very unlikely to become homeless. There are social safety nets and even in the city there are low cost housing options. Developers are required by law to build 1:1 affordable housing units for every upscale unit. \n\nIt's not like the US where walking through any major city you see many people sleeping on the street.", "...they're usually old.", "Gonna miss seeing her there", "Parasite was also a commentary of social inequality. Rich people are so out of touch with the problems of the poor.", "There are tons of places like this. Many sidewalks, every train station just about, and public markets like 24/7 farmers markets are all over the place.", "I dont get it fucking help", "And the elderly have one of (if not THE) highest suicide rate in SK. Partially because they feel a financial and personal burden on the younger generation", "i think the country is headed to a major shift/collapse in the next few decades as well. something like 2/3 of GOP voters don't believe the 2020 election was legitimate. that amount of people having complete distrust in the most basic part of our government is a huge deal.\n\nthe best case scenario is that one of two things will happen, either those people will wane and die off or right wing media and politicians will change the narrative whenever Trump dies. no matter what happens, having that % of people not trusting one of the most basic things in this country is a harbinger of the future.\n\nalso we barely survived maybe the easiest global catastrophe ever, the c19 pandemic. god help us if anything more advanced happens in the near future.\n\ni forgot the point i was trying to make. anyway, have a nice Friday! hope it goes well for you", "San Francisco follows your policy idea. Its a fucking disaster", "There is limited information here. Was it being \"stolen by the city\"? or where they perhaps asked to leave multiple times and didn't? Public streets, bus stations, train stations, etc have to have some regulations. How do we know she wasn't told this more than once and asked to move elsewhere?", "A throwaway tankie account linking to a propaganda doc that presents opinions of 3 defectors out of 40,000 as facts. My favorite part is the totally unbiased attorney describing refugee facitilies as torture prisons.\n\nThere are tonnes of interviews with NK defectors on Youtube that tell a very different story like [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9rLqYXTaFI), [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyqUw0WYwoc), [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVu7Yow1XUY) or [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhmzpMP3bEE) but I guess that's CIA.", "its disgusting how ppl can be so heartless..", "So your saying you'd rather have the Batista regime than Castro? Where people were slaves to the plantation owners? Illiterate peasants abound, getting a disease or an injury was a death sentence because there were no nearby clinics or hospitals. \n\nWhat would you say to these people? Stick to capitalism my friend, communism leads no nowhere.", "[More like the psy ops of a country still technically at war and another one that's propped up by a country that dropped more bombs on it then all of WW2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzDhqXuELjo)\n\nAlso nice corporate channels you linked there not sus at all... [looks very legit](https://i.imgur.com/U1k7Xy2.png)", ">When the basis of your argument is \"let's force people to do what's best\", inevitably you start going into extremely authoritarian territory. Too many people? Sterilization or 1 child policy. Too many prisoners? Forced labor. So on.\n\nSays who? We already have obligations to society, pay taxes, don't commit crime, drive within the rules etc. I'm only suggesting we move the needle closer to collectivism.\n\n>That way, we have MORE unemployment. GENIUS!\n\nCitation needed. Funny how countries like Australia can pay their workers decently and have welfare yet have better unemployment rates than the US, to say nothing of a better quality of life. Tired of this argument, if you spend 5 minutes researching you'll realise it's horseshit.\n\n>Freeloaders everywhere as well!\n\nAgain citation needed. Does Norway look like it's on the verge of collapse? Now what about America... I'm not even suggesting it needs to go as far as Norway but currently rugged individualism is channeling the wealth to those already at the top and forcing everyone else down. How the richest nation in the world can have worst poverty than some third world countries is ridiculous. I'd take living in India over living in the US any day, at least there you can get by comfortably enough on pittance.\n\nAs I said I was one of those \"freeloaders\" now I'm a better contributing member of society. You think people would CHOOSE to pay for my education? No but the end result is better whether they're willing to acknowledge it or not. True freeloaders are the exception and part of the cost of having a well functioning society. The majority of people do the right thing and onlt use it to get through the tough times so they can get back on their feet.\n\n\n>The thing is, the government doesn't need to have all the power it has. People need to look after themselves, government should only be trusted, and limited, by its constitution, to only take care of public security services: Police, army, courts, and such. \n\nAll you're doing is passing that power on to someone else who has no obligation to society. Free market capitalism falls apart when the consumer has no choice in not purchasing a product at all. When your only choice is one overpriced company everyone gets fucked over except that one company. Competition doesn't work for things like utilities which are essential and don't lend themselves to choice (company X has a discount on water today so I'll use the company X tap instead of company y..), hence countries that privatised utilities fucked themselves over. There's also the fact that companies are purely profit driven entities, the incentives just aren't there to not do bad things. It's why we need the government to step in to ensure everyone is playing fair and not doing things like fucking over the environment etc.\n\n\n>Limited government scope means limited power and thus limited use of it to further own interests, whereas a big, paternalist welfare state opens the doors to a myriad of self-interest decisions and corruption. As is tradition.\n\nThe US government has comparatively little power compared to many countries, yet corruption is rampant and worse companies are free to conduct activities that would otherwise be considered corrupt were a government to do it. Meanwhile countries like new Zealand have a more powerful government with very little corruption and a lot of prosperity.\n\nI'm sorry the world doesn't fit your narrative.", "At least you guys moved on from comparing everything to Harry Potter.", "You can join the military up to 39 years old and there isn't an age cap on apprenticeships.", "I responded to the article as posted.", "Welfare is not a socialist policy, it's a Band-Aid on capitalism to maintain the status quo and avoid workers revolting and taking power. Social democracy is a concession made by the capitalists to prevent the downfall of capitalism.", "welfare is literally a socialist policy. There is no socialism without welfare.\n\nIf it's used as bread and circus is irrelevant", "Damn bro, this is the 2nd time today someone linked me this soviet tier propaganda vid. Smiling North Koreans eating icecream- check✓, US sanctions to blame for widespread censorship and NK shooting its citizens for trying to leave that hell hole- check✓, no mention of the many terrorist attacks and provocations NK has performed, no mention of its war crimes and the fact that it literally invaded SK starting the war- check✓\n\nIf you don't want bombs dropped on you perhaps you shouldn't invade another country but that's just me. Terrible US and UN defending an invaded country from an invasion :)", ">“We estimate that they are earning about 10 million ($9,156) won a month because they only accept cash and don’t pay rent or taxes,” he added. \n\nI wish I was that desperate. \n\nThere may be some truly destitute out there. But many aren't, and the government can't sort them out since they're all the same. in the past it's been revealed that they'll refuse to show ID, not carry any, or use a relative's ID to hide what they're doing. They deal in cash and keep no records. The government, in some areas, has places where they can get permits and get stalls to run, but that would require they actually operate legally and pay taxes, which they don't want to do.", "Those old ladies have been warned thousands of times and confiscated dozens of times. They try to cut their losses from getting confiscated through saying those things, but they know what they are doing. The cops confiscate the things so they can't go down the road and begin again as the ladies have done basically every other time. I mean, the cops could throw the book at them. Tax evasion, etc.", "The people of that generation who bought land or housing are incredibly rich though. It's a thug-of-war between the hopeless young and the destitute elderly.", ">Also nice corporate channels you linked there not sus at all... \n> \n>looks very legit\n\n3 of the linked videos are from Asian Boss which is a channel notorious for showing the harsh side of South Korea and as far from being a shill for it as they come. Meanwhile your doc was literally made by some commie NK friendship org. Fuck outta here", "His point is that the troops and it's spending in the country contributed 25% of GNP across all businesses. Not only from prostitution, but from all sources. Renting housing, buying food, snacks, liquor, cigarettes, food at restaurant, using the airport, etc.", "Soul/Seoul", "Everyone is, really", "smh is some facebook mom shit. probably cut that out of your vocab.", "That is the argument of a 12 year old. Everyone hates you.", "I would concoct a reply but it's not worth it. You have no idea about how economies and politics work. Good night.", ">its war crimes \n\nYou mean defending itself against the [genocidal](https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/NE2c2jaeYrE_yXCHFrwYzEgLpDTt_cYGRUccOc_3i5xr3zHEgsDAwo3dX8SfV05CEkIN0yNOYZo8CKU24HTaIgp3FMqxJ1InVBM9Xz5ZIE35bVEuvvVgp02-zCmIuNG4tnBxIAPh=s800) government [propped up by the US](https://www.amazon.com/Cry-Korea-Korean-Reporters-Notebook/dp/0955830206#customerReviews)? \n\n\nClearly you know nothing of history and [blindly drank the cool aid](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_coverage_of_North_Korea)", "You speak of not taking \"these matters lightly\" then proceed to engage and consume the topic with typical Wikipedia sensationalism anyway, which, along with other points made by other posters here, discredits your credibility. \"25% of GNP\" literally stems from an absolute and complete misreading of a book, which then ended up on the Wikipedia article that you've read with 100% certainty, no 'almost', which I've pointed out numerous times.", "Well actually,", "why don't they just get a jerb #jerb", "The comment you linked to is removed, but I've always been interested in this sort of stuff, and your use of words hit similar talking points that I frequent, so I'll be joining the sub.", "Yeah you hit poopy baby over here in a really bad spot haha! As always good job!", "a metaphor for the impossible, yes.", "OMG millions of won?! Oh that’s like $8 USD then", "The fuck are you on. COL in Seoul are less than COL in rural Germany, or pretty much anywhere in western Europe", "Squid game isn't just about korea though, they refer to it taking place around the world. so it seems relevant that \"nearly every single country follows the same procedures\".", "Okay, so basically you were lying in your first comment, and inferring that solidarity means organized crime? got it, thanks.", "“The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum....”\n\n― Noam Chomsky, The Common Good\n\nAnd don't just handwave away the [CIA they are a real organization](https://youtu.be/zwzBEp5DbA8)", "I think, they are more similar than you might like.", "There's a similar sentiment if you ask certain people about russia under communism. I think what should be recognized is there's democratic and undemocratic regimes, but that happiness is actually something outside of either categories.", "Not like the workers doing this to them are \"rich\" either, [but one day they might be!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_LvRPX0rGY)", "they're an organized group, they have a 'union'/association, they repeatedly break the law. What part of an organized group committing crimes isn't organized crime?", "* Eric Garner sold loose cigarettes in violation of State tobacco distribution laws.\n\n* Arresting officer spots Eric selling a loose cigarette from at 350ft away, calls in backup.\n\n* Six Police officers show up to arrest Eric on trumped of charges of selling 10k loose cigarettes, a felony, while Eric only had around 100, or five packs worth of cigarettes. \n\n* The arresting officer immediately places him in a choke hold (against NYPD regulations) while Eric cries out \"I can't breathe\" 11 times. Once Eric is subdued, the officers pin him down until Eric was unconscious.\n\n* Cops roll him onto his side and call medical for man experiencing trouble breathing but who \"did not appear to be in great distress\".\n\n* EMTs arrive, check his pulse, and render no aid to Eric for two minutes before chucking his limp body onto a litter.\n\n* Police claim Eric died in the ambulance on the way to the hospital.\n\n* New York City Medical Examiner's Office ruled Eric's death a homicide due to neck and chest compression during the arrest, with asthma and heart disease as contributing factors.\n\n* Two cops were placed on desk duty. Four EMTs were suspended.\n\n* Public outcry over the injustice results in marches nationwide, commonly with signs saying \"I can't breathe\" in hopes of getting justice.\n\n* No cops were indicted.\n\n* To celebrate, NYPD officers counter protest with shirts saying \"I can breathe\" to mock the dead civilian.\n\n* Over five years later, the arresting officer is fired for maintaining the illegal chokehold after Eric had collapsed to the ground.", "link?", "Social programs that help those less fortunate and elderly to get housing and feed themselves.\n\nEvery single sentence in your reply is just another question. Whataboutism doesn't help anyone, It just propagates resentment for a problem that doesn't exist\n\nWhile we're asking questions, what is your solution? Or are you going to just ask more questions?", "And yet $40 mil is 80x times more than I need to retire in comfort. I could pay for my entire extended family's retirement, and their extended family too. It's crazy how much money some people have.", "No it's not.\n\nI studied Korean civil law and for the authorities to swoop in and confiscate the goods, there has to be 1. A warning, by a sign or sticker, or verbal one. 2. Second warning, that they will come and confiscate the goods if the unregistered merchant does not leave. 3. final warning. 4. Warning before the authorities come 5. Confiscation of goods.\n\nSo they had plenty of warnings, and they chose not to leave. It isn't exactly 'evil' when they had that much warning beforehand.", "Well no one is coming to pick them up for you. You either do it yourself or you will never get ahead in life.", "I can get on board \"organised crime\" that is breaking stupid petty laws. \n\n> That's not something a couple poor old people barely getting by can arrange.\n\nWhy not? I think you underestimate what organised everyday people can do.\n\nYou're trying to imply that there's some deep hidden criminal connection, that's what the lie is.", "The phrase is literally describing a task that is physically impossible, that's the point of it. Nobody can pull themselves up by their bootstraps. You clearly don't understand that.\n\nYou're telling people to do [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8qiAQbgEEc) and expecting results.", "Heeeey, I'm back! How have you been? How's your Thursday going?", "because it costs a lot of money to pay for a shipping container, transport it, then arrange for the equipment to drop it in the middle of a road to fight the police from. \n\nif these people were hard up, they wouldn't be able to remotely afford it. \n\n>breaking stupid petty laws.\n\nYou think things like taxes and health certificates are 'stupid'? Yeah, not much point in continuing any discussion if that's where you're starting from.", "So you're whataboutisming my whataboutism? \n\nI just know that you can't let people sell shit anywhere they want or cities would go to shit real fast. Social programs is one end of the solution, but also preventing the streets from being overrun with people selling shit is the other end. \n\nThe age of these people shouldn't matter. They shouldn't get a pass because they're old. These aren't homeless people, they're just selling stuff. We don't actually know if they're destitute, but judging by what they're selling, and how they're dressed, and how their shops are laid out, they're not poor. They're just setting up a shop anywhere the fuck they want, then some jackass on reddit gets upset because they're \"old\". Old people can be dickheads too.\n\nDickface.", "Fuck people who use semi colons.", "Right? \n\nElon Musk is about to become a trillionaire and this twit is up in arms over 40mil... :^)", "All you have is a conspiracy theory, though. The more immediate solution to your problem is that you are simply underestimating what a bunch of regular people getting together and organising can achieve.\n'\n> You think things like taxes and health certificates are 'stupid'? Yeah, not much point in continuing any discussion if that's where you're starting from.\n\nTaxes are fine as long as you are being represented in their use. Increasingly, countries around the world are ignoring the interests of regular people, only representing the interests of elite people, setting most of the tax load on regular people, and letting elite people get away with paying almost no tax. It's not a lie to say that wars have been fought for less. So, I don't have any issue with some people avoiding some taxes when selling stuff on the street; not when rich people skirt taxes to far greater degrees; not when the interest of regular people is not represented properly in politics.", "Imagine thinking anyone values anything you say", "It is a metaphor. How do you not know what that is? It's not literal!\n\n[Bootstrap as a metaphor, meaning to better oneself by one's own unaided efforts, was in use in 1922](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootstrapping)", "I know nothing about South Korea except the great movies and shows they make about how capitalism eats people alive. Tell me why it's so bad?\n\nEdit: Great horror movies too.", "What an odd comment", "Get a job, hippie.", "Every country in the West went through war in the past century, the problem isn't so much that they had a war, but that there is no strong social support net. This as an outsider surprised me a bit as Korea seemed financially rather strong with a GDP of 35k pp. So this makes me wonder, does Korea not tax the shit out of people like happens to us in North Europe? (Ie should there be far more cash on the people themselves). Or is income inequality very large? What's going on that there is no security for these people in a wealthy nation like Korea.", "Damn that's crazy. I had no idea it was such a big city.", "Western people in crippling debt wouldn’t be willing to witness and take part in horrible things for a measly 40 million USD? Lmao ok dude. Nobody in the west would ever do something bad unless it paid extremely well, right? It’s not like there are people in the US who have shot others for a gold chain or anything. You must be some kind of genius or something.", "I think most viewers wouldn't, and that breaks the sense of immersion -- it did for me, at least (although I still loved the show).", "Chill, think about the other situation. They've had a life of luck and you're saying they all must just not be on steady grounds? During the great depression my grandfather was the biggest person in his class because he was required to farm while everyone else was left to do other. If a field that you pick is unsustainable, then that field should not be. \n\n\nSpend a life at war then war ends? Go join another cause, be it write a war or treaty. \n\n\nStop trying to shill man.", "Yeah, because anytime anything to do with South Korea is ever mentioned to anyone on Reddit, someone has to say something about Squid Game or Parasite as if those two are the embodiment of South Korea.", "[Early 19th century US; attested 1834. In original use, often used to refer to pulling oneself over a fence, and implying that someone is attempting or has claimed some ludicrously far-fetched or impossible task.](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pull_oneself_up_by_one%27s_bootstraps)\n\nSimply some ironic semantic bleaching. It's probably safe to say that most people don't think of it as a positive metaphor these days any more than \"it's just a few bad apples\".", "Yea I was shocked to know about the credit card debts or any debts..on the outside people look fine but they are not", "what conspiracy theory? Them not paying taxes, illegally occupying land, illegally operating businesses, the ones selling food not having health certificates, the garbage they leave around them, the shipping container, those are all facts. The only flight of fantasy here is anyone who tries to paint organized criminals as victims.", "I genuinely can’t even tell what you are trying to say it’s so stupid", "u/trick-requirement370 well now this is confusing isn’t it", "When referencing a country and saying that its capitalistic yet works just fine, its disingenuous to say that problems are not caused by privately owned means of production, when reducing privately owned means of production in some of the most lucrative industries is the exact thing that makes Norway work so well.", "Lol bold assumption, it's not like I studied economics or anything right (hint: I did)? \n\nYou'll find most economists don't worship the alter of the freemarket nor socialism and know that there's nuance and good and bad points to both sides of the argument.. In fact my comment about the incentives of companies is almost a direct quote from an economist, you need governments to fill the gaps left by free market capitalism because the incentive structure just doesn't support running a society. I'll throw it out there that my aunt is a professor of macroconomics as well, not that I can take any credit for that but suffice to say it's a big part of my family.", "A trump snowflake, a racist and a narcissistic person! What a shocker! Oh let's not forget about that time you pretended to be a black man in your post history and promptly deleted it. Lol you trump morons are just a fucking joke. You must live a very narcissistic unfulfilling shitty easily hurt feelings life where you are perpetually a victim with tears regularly rolling down your cheeks.", "I think it's crazy that people think, \"I can't afford to have kids\". Our ancestors were almost starving and lived shoulder to shoulder. You can have kids, they aren't going to starve.", "Oh ok. I understand what you’re saying now. You’re saying that the viewer has to be willing to take part in a 400 player contest where their lives are at stake or the sense of immersion is broken and jt somehow detracts from the series. I misunderstood you at first.\n\nHonestly, I still disagree. That amount of money is more money than I or almost any westerner could ever hope to make in a lifetime, I’ve never had a child who I was at risk of never seeing again, I’ve never had a gambling addiction, and I’ve never been in debt to a violent gganpae who was willing and able to cut out my organs to sell on the black market if I didn’t pay up an unreasonably large amount of money, so it’s kind of hard for me to guess at whether or not someone in that situation would be willing to take part in a game like that. And this is coming from someone born and raised in America.\n\nI feel like the whole losing-your-one-and-only-child thing would be a huge amount of motivation on its own, but I wouldn’t know. I don’t have any kids.", "A degree doesn't mean much. Keynes was an economist and hands down one of the worst ones out there in regards to economic freedom.\n\nAnd let's not even to about how command and Anne's economy, planned by \"economists\", ends up working oh so well...", "You're acting as though they have some hidden criminal connections; not the obvious solution, that they are just well organised people trying to get by, that break laws in the open plain day.", "Yes... that's how it was used in 1834... no one uses it in that way anymore. But you are really missing the point here. You can pull yourself up by your bootstraps (the modern metaphor use of it). People here think society has to do it for them.", "B-b-b-but Elon's Musk told me billionaires are smarter??", "So they really are just like us", "Shillin yo own ideas you fuck.", "Correct.", "Fair enough, I know my opinion isn't universal.", "And literally means figuratively, usage changes. I'm just suggesting you find a different metaphor because it's also not 1922, not everyone is going to appreciate your point.", "Yeah... I know where it is, that's why I said that.\n\n>My guess is they were making foot traffic across the bridge congested/difficult. They were probably warned repeatedly and this is the cleanup effort.\n\nYeah most likely. Read the sign behind them. \"No illegal selling.\" :(", ">Old people don't deserve to be living in a nice area of town?\n\nOld people selling on the street don't ~~deserve to be living~~ live in a nice area of town?", "I'm going to continue to use modern metaphors. I really don't care what Reddit thinks.", "No. It's not a stereotype. Yes. It's pop culture. It makes me cringe.", "Yes.... I know what the situation is like in Korea.. What point are you trying to make?", "r/imatotalpieceofshit", "`System.out.println(\"Oh god, finally!\");`", "> throwaway comments feel like they're intended to be clever \"gotcha\" statements that show how the song misrepresents Korea\n\nI actually agree with you, but also they use these comments the same way someone would say \"bazinga\" un-ironically, and then when someone asks why they said that in front of a person who just commit suicide they might say \"Oh I was using it ironically\" or something close to that.\n\nYeah. It's so weird how many people sound like robots on Reddit just spamming the same phrases out of context.\n\n>but \"Gangnam Style\" is irrelevant to everything in this clip.\n\nYeah. Dude's most likely just ignorant and wanted to spam.\n\n>I've come across your photos before.\n\nHahahah thanks man. I cannot wait to get back to photography in Seoul. /r/SouthKoreaPics welcomes you! Also I started a discord on photography in Korea if you're ever interested.\n\n\nEdit: Also I just saw that this thread totally blew up. But still people are remaining ignorant. So weird. Oh and this entire comment tree has been deleted. How fun.....", "Did you miss your own source? \n\n>The saying \"to pull oneself up by one's bootstraps\"[1] was already in use during the 19th century as an example of an impossible task.\n\nThe act is physically impossible. But please, show me how it's possible to lift yourself into the air by pulling on your own shoelaces.", "Define it, you can shill anything, including your own shit.", "It’s not though, it’s both a joke and a way to tell people that there is a lot of social and economic issues there too. What’s wrong about that?", "ok boomer", "I'm asking as someone who has no knowledge of anything on this topic:\n\n> they chose not to leave\n\nWhat was the choice? Someone mentioned that the elderly have to move out into the countryside if they don't have financial support, but what's that like? Was this person acting in defiance or desperation?\n\nI wouldn't characterize it as 'evil' either, but it seems more like commonplace apathy.", "I am half black you racist! Stop trying to put black people in a box! How about that! How about you change the name of your political party which was the same name of slavery and rebellion!", "It's not about starvation, it's about quality of life.\n\nIt's like when someone says to a minimum wage worker \"you can't afford that mercedes\". Sure they technically can if only they cut their food expenditure and start digging a landfill for food, but when people say \"you can't afford that,\" we don't mean \"you'll literally die\", we mean \"your life will be crap\".", "You don't seem to understand what socialism is. Social democracy is a concession to maintain the status quo, socialism is a completely different system that can't exist within capitalism. China, Cuba, formerly the USSR and the like all operate/operated under an entirely different system than a capitalist economy.", "So basically poor countries citizens best chance at a good life is to move to a western country, causing major \"brain drain\" and also leaves all the corrupt people at home ready to keep selling the natural resources to the west, ensuring the cycle continues", "It felt so isolating having a kid young. My childhood friends were partying in college and work/studying the world while I was leaving early to relieve the babysitter. Other local young parents led chaotic lives of single parent poverty. Always moving for evictions or working 3 jobs. My kid's school friends' parents were established professionals 15 years older than me. It was damn hard to connect with people, and even harder to keep up.\n\nNow, my old friends are the established ones having kids, planning play dates and museum school. I wish I could have given my son the leg up theirs will have.", "Yes... in the 1800's... before it changed... in 1922...", "Maybe they shouldn't have decided to sell those things without paying taxes. Defiance, most likely. Those road shops in korea are notorious for stacking up money without paying tax. Especially those in seoul.", "Where you been? We're already here lmao.", "Well, there’s two basic reasons that we should force you to pay for older people’s welfare. \n\nFirst, we live in a functionally interdependent society. You don’t independently create wealth, you depend on others to do everything from honor contracts to manage currency to work as a team at your workplace. As such, you don’t have a presumptive moral claim to the entirety of your wealth. \n\nSecondly, it is part of an implicit contact. The ‘social trade’ we have made is that we have sacrificed traditional and village family structures for industrial, urbanized capitalism. Which has destabilized families but given us lots of wealth. So we use part of that wealth to ameliorate the ill effects of that development.", "First of all, I do independently create wealth by either my human capital or by trading goods with others, at which point, they're receiving something from this trade, thus there is no \"free lunch\" being had here. \n\nThere is trading. Consensual trading.\n\nSecond of all, social contract theory depends on something very important: consent.\nNot very popular concept around socialist circles but read up on your Locke.\n\nThere is no \"social trade\", we didn't trade anything for anything. Free enterprise exists since the dawn of man. Trade does not require any hierarchy.\n\n\nEverything you said is nonsense.", "The act described by the metaphor is physically impossible. What imagery runs thru your mind when you use this phrase? 1800 or today, the physical act described in the metaphor is still impossible.", "The modern one per my source. You are trying way too hard to push the 200 year old use of it. It is no longer used that way.", "You imagine being able to lift yourself into the air by pulling on your own shoes?\n\nMetaphors invoke imagery in the mind's eye. What do you see as happening with this phrase? Pulling up bootstraps, or pulling one's self up?", "You know it's a metaphor right? It's not literal.", "Metaphors invoke mental imagery. That's their entire purpose. What do you see in your minds eye with this phrase?", "You might not say that when you kid is moving out and on their own before your fifty and those poor fuckers are dealing with middle school shit instead of enjoying their most financially secure and independent part of life.\n\nYou think those guys had freedom in their twenties? Try being fifty without kids to take care of making more money then you know what to do with.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu3iCvAQCHg", "I am sorry I don’t know what South Korea does = living under a rock. Seriously what a rude thing to say.", ">my ~$20,000 custom mobility device\n\nLol that explains it. Heavens, you wouldn't be caught dead in the \"basic\" model among the plebs!\n\nStay sheltered buddy.", "[That isn't true.](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/metaphor) But I imagine someone pulling up their boot straps in order to take care of the job themselves.", "I was surprised to see this thread still chugging along when I woke up. Looks like some informative comments surfaced elsewhere, so at least there's that. I probably got a bit carried away myself. \n\nThanks for the link to the SK sub. Lot of great photos there, and also helpful for motivation and as a reference point for a guy like me who just recently picked up his first real camera.\n\nI'll be sure to look for your discord as well. Good running into you.", "Maybe that's a tiny aspect of it.", "Yes, it absolutely is. \n\n>: an object, activity, or idea that is used as a symbol of something else\n\nThat's mental imagery. That's what symbols are.\n\n Look at the examples in your definition. They invoke a mental image of a scenario that is relatable to a given situation.\n\n\"Drowning in paperwork\" creates the mental imagery of being adrift in a sea of paperwork. Which is an apt metaphor for when you have more paperwork than you can handle.\n\nAlso - finally. This is exactly what I was getting at.\n\n\"Pulling up your bootstraps\" and \"pulling yourself up by your bootstraps\" are two entirely different mental images. \n\n This is why the \"modern use\" metaphor is a bad one. The mental image is both literally and figuratively incorrect.\n\nIn order to get your prescribed meaning out of the phrase you have to entirely disregard what the phrase, and imagery, actually say. That's a bad metaphor.", ">A degree doesn't mean much.\n\nMeans a hell of a lot more than some random on the internet's opinion. I'm not saying its proof I'm right, I'm saying it's proof I have an idea what I'm talking about. When you can't win an argument with evidence, attack the person's education. When you can't win on that, attack the whole education establishment lmao.\n\n>Keynes was an economist and hands down one of the worst ones out there in regards to economic freedom.\n\nCitation needed. I mean the theory is not perfect but it is sound and those theories when applied in real life have helped avoid major financial collapse numerous times. Full economic freedom is a shit show.\n\n>And let's not even to about how command and Anne's economy, planned by \"economists\", ends up working oh so well...\n\nWar and poor harvests were planned by economists now?\n\nMost economists don't support a planned economy, I sure don't and never said I did. You're not even arguing me any more, just the imaginary boogie man socialist you imagine me to be, which I am not.\n\nThe best economy is one that is largely unplanned, with some government incentives to nudge people in the right direction. Those include regulations on the environment, health, working conditions as well as providing equal opportunities and encouraging competition in the market. By and large I agree with you, people should take responsibility for themselves and be rewarded for the value they generate. \n\nBut I also believe that everyone should be given the opportunity to increase their value by learning new skills or starting a business. The current system has a very weak safety net which strangles those at the bottom who become stuck in a cycle of working paycheck to paycheck with gruelling hours and no time to study or learn or savings to take time off. By investing in those people, who are often the future generation of workers, we can enjoy a little assistance from the government when we reach an age where working is no longer viable. Seems pretty sweet to me and far better than your free for all mentality.", "Are you actually trying to assert that \"Prostitution provided 25% of Korea's GNP and that's how Korea developed its economy\" is how it's written in the part you just quoted here.", "Weird how that works", "England", "I get it, though. Considering how Asian elderly treat the young, you can't help but be overjoyed to return the favor when you're older. But really, save the revenge for people that hurt you (parents/teachers). Don't attack people that haven't done anything to you.", "this is why i hate people. no matter your nationality, race, gender, etc.... how can you feel good about doing this? 😢", "> my ~$20,000 custom mobility device\n\n> Lol that explains it. Heavens, you wouldn't be caught dead in the \"basic\" model among the plebs!\n\n> Stay sheltered buddy.\n\n\nUmm... You are aware that I didn't pimp my wheelchair, right?\n\nManufacturers charge outrageous prices for them. Insurance pays less of course, but since the only prices that I can have access to are on the order forms, that's what I go by.\n\nJust the power base (ie, motors, brain, and frame, but no seat, no power seating systems, no controls) can be $10,000 for a \"complex rehab\" group 3 power wheelchair.\n\nAdd in the rehab seat so that it can accept required positioning aids like special cushions, straps, etc. That's a few hundred if not a grand right there.\n\nNeed the seat and footrests to tilt backwards for circulation management, or forward to make transfers easier? That's another $5,000.\n\nNeed the seat back to recline, to be able to achieve either a completely flat or near flat/supine position? That's another $5,000.\n\nNeed the seat to be able to elevate, so that the user can get a better interaction height, reach high shelves, etc? That's maybe another $3,000.\n\nNeed the user to be able to be able to stand in the wheelchair frame, like maybe a teacher? That's another ~$20,000.\n\nControls alone can be maybe $800, and the batteries are another $800, for 2 large (generally group 24) medical grade deep cycle AGM lead acid batteries in series, for 24 volts.\n\nA custom but medically necessary power wheelchair is INSANELY expensive. We're not talking simple home use only grandma runabouts, generally classed as group 2 (think Hoverround).\n\nI haven't even covered some of the optional things that my chair doesn't have, like a high speed motor package (to go from 6 MPH max to 8 MPH max) or an LED lighting package, which is handy for driving outdoors at night. Those are maybe another $3,000, and Medicare won't cover them.\n\nIf you doubt my cost estimate, ask users in complex power wheelchairs over at /r/wheelchairs \n\nApologies are nice, but I doubt that I'll get one.", "Lol didn't even read it.", "Perhaps he assumes that people stalk his comment history for some reason? Dunno why he'd think that. Doubt anyone is so desperate to troll that they'd read someone's history.", "I don't know how many times I have to say that social democracy is a subset of socialism. \n\n\nNothing you say changes this fact.", "I worked in a nursing home and I couldn't believe it, just tons of humans who made it, they survived all the bullshit life throws at you, and all so no one can give a fuck. Yeah, they had it okay bc they were in a nursing home, but no family to be scene. It's weird how our society operates. We all got so busy that no one has time for family, no time for the elderly, no time for kids, no time for relationships, gotta work work work, and eventually we get old, try and tell people not to make the mistakes, but they do, then they get old, and the cycle continues. Whatever evolution is building now, I don't think it has to do with furthering humans, I think it is now using biological life to build synthetic life. Maybe that was what evolution was always trying to build. Escape its own creation.", "Lmao", "Aww, I hope your Friday goes better", "Have you tried revenge? It's amazing when they deserve it.", "When you have access to a robust safety net, the decisions become so much easier, and the number of chances you get at success go way up. \n \nIf you don't have a strong safety net then a small slip up compounds over and over again. \n \nThere is a concept called a poverty trap. The gist of the poverty trap is this, if you, your parents, and your grandparents are poor, there is essentially no way for you to climb out of poverty. Poor people are not poor because they are lazy. They are poor because they often times can't take the time to stop working long enough to develop and pursue better employment. \n \nIf you are so poor that you gotta take on a job as a teen to help feed your family, its much harder to choose to hit the books and get good grades. But if you do, and manage to get a scholarship to a school, even a full ride is expensive, you still gotta eat, pay for a dorm or apt, but if you make it work, and can go to college its hard to get good grades if you have to work part time. \n \nOr maybe you are like my older brother, you hear there is good money in the trades, so you run off and join a construction crew and start pulling in decent money, you had better make damn sure you don't ever let yourself enjoy that extra cash, because construction is very boom and bust. So you might make good money for 6 months and then not see any work for 6. \n \nI grew up poor, and not even very poor, but enough that a few hundred bucks a week working part time gave my parents just a bit of breathing room, and maybe we could go camping for a long weekend for a vacation. \n \nCurrently I am in a very good spot financially. How? I got lucky. I met a woman who comes from a wealthier family, and she was willing to support us so I could go back to school. She could afford to do that, because she never had to go into debt for college, and her parents could afford that because a grandparent ran a grocery store. A store that was a gift for a wedding. \n \nI see the struggles my siblings are going through, I am not smarter than them, I don't work harder than them, I don't make better choices than them. I won the love lottery. Sure I worked had in my college class, but I didn't have anything else to worry about at the time. Doing the hard work was made easy. But when you are poor, event the \"easy work\" can be hard.", "That's just objectively untrue lol.", "Hahaha.. how many accounts do you have?", "We're at an impasse. We can go back and forth, but nothing will change. I hope you never get into the situation of having to sell things on the street when you're 70. \n\nHave a good life, friend", "I don't know what you're rationalising. You have a disgustingly unrefined attitude, of course people will not be objective towards you. It's not a cop out when someone is sincerely uncomfortable about your \"I'm never wrong\" thinking and wants to absolutely minimize any interaction with someone like you.", ">It's not letting the poor beg in the streets.\n\nHow is it helping them to take that away though?", "Prove me wrong", "\"according to a dictatorship, it's really cool there.\"", "Any wealth you generate is within the context of a wide set of institutional frameworks. Legal, fiscal, infrastructural, social, linguistic, etc. These are the basic prerequisites for modern human economic transaction; and the reason why urban, industrial capitalism (including govern mentality) takes fairly consistent forms regardless of culture and location. Those are modes of interdependence, ways of relating to one another both physically and psychically. \n\nTrade and free enterprise has existed since the dawn of man in limited forms, but so have different levels of functional organization. Clan, tribe, village, town, city, metropolis; each of these came prescribed with different sets of social obligations and systems used to negotiate human relationships. Man has never existed as atomic economic agents, despite the fervent modeling of them as such.\n\nJust like you wouldn’t conceive of a beehive as the sum of individual actions, you ought not to look at human society as a large bundling of human individuals. Otherwise, you risk not seeing the complex systems we create, especially in cities, which help create richer and more healthy communities. \n\nUltimately, forcing people to pay into a fund, in order that they may also eventually pull from that fund if needed, is not really any different than a tribe using an informal rule that they share the fruit of the hunt with the whole tribe.", "the tribe analogy would work in a tribe only, because everyone shared everything. It was communism.\n\nWe don't live in communism. I contribute more than I receive. I'm tired of social welfare leeches.\n\nSo no\n\nA better analogy is a thief taking your wallet and giving you 10 bucks back and calling that a favor.", "you said that to yourself didn't you", "I quoted an external source", "Yes, that’s in my comment (physical + social). But it’s a shit metaphor. Human societies have always consisted of tightly woven support networks and many empirical studies today still show that success in life is determined by those networks. Whether or not you become a drug addict is tied to the strength of your social circle, for example, not to your own “willpower”. There are no exceptions to this dynamic. So the metaphor of the bootstrap is inaccurate: Other people are always holding up those bootstraps. And if it’s not accurate, then the point of the metaphor is to legitimize not helping other people.", "Well, no. The tribe analogy works because there is no presumptive moral claim to individually generated wealth. We generate wealth socially. The 10 dollars in your pocket is allocated to you by the ‘invisible hand’ of the market, and thus is able to be seized by the institutional apparatus that brings the market into being, the same way the tribe brings the hunter into being.", "There is no institutional apparatus that creates the market. Markets are created by buyers and sellers with no middleman required.\n\nThere is no socially generated wealth unless you work in a cooperative.\n\nWhat the fuck am I reading\n\nThis is some peak mental gymnastics to justify extortion", "Socialism is a separate system than capitalism. There is something called democratic socialism that seeks to achieve socialism through democratic means instead of revolution. Social democracy is not that though, it is just capitalism with a safety net. That’s not socialism, it’s just capitalism with a welfare state. In social democracy the economy is still capitalist, meaning that social democracy is not a type of socialism, but rather a type of capitalism. In the case of the failed german revolution in 1918, the social democrats actually hired the freikorp to shut down the attempted socialist revolution.", "Exactly. capitalism with welfare.\n\nWhat is welfare?\n\nA socialist policy.\n\nSocial democracy is not capitalist. Because capitalism is not a political system. It's an economical one.\n\nSocial democracy on the other hand is the use of capitalism to fund socialist policy.\n\nJesus Christ open a goddamn encyclopedia or economics book.\n\nIt's a socialist system. Not a capitalist one. Essentially using democracy to regulate the market.\n\n\nSocial democracy is defined as one of many socialist traditions. As a political movement, it aims to achieve socialism through gradual and democratic means., an ideology seeking to gradually build an alternative socialist economy through the institutions of liberal democracy.", "Welfare (or commonly, social welfare) is a type of government support intended to ensure that members of a society can meet basic human needs such as food and shelter. Social security may either be synonymous with welfare, or refer specifically to social insurance programs which provide support only to those who have previously contributed (e.g.\n\nMore details here: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare> \n\n\n\nThis comment was left automatically (by a bot). If I don't get this right, don't get mad at me, I'm still learning!\n\n[^(opt out)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/ozztfy/post_for_opting_out/) ^(\|) [^(should I die?)](https://reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/qh0tf8/should_i_diestop_working/) ^(\|) [^(delete)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/q79g2t/delete_feature_added/) ^(\|) [^(report/suggest)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot) ^(\|) [^(GitHub)](https://github.com/TheBugYouCantFix/wiki-reddit-bot)", "No worries. Enjoy your photography journey!", "Fucking anti-hedonists.", "jfc lol. Welfare is not a socialist policy. Welfare is just welfare. Socialism is an economic system not a type of policy. You don’t seem to have any understanding of what socialism is. Read some marx.", "Ok buddy, keep telling yourself that. Open an economics book.", "Ok thanks for the explanation. FTR: I didn't downvote you.", "I lived there 3 years but I'm not an expert on the issue. One problem appears to be that the Korean was was more recently than the World Wars in Europe and the rebuilding coincided with economic growth in the 70's and 80's world wide which led to a focus in corporatism. The corporations are incredibly wealthy and wealth gap is huge.\n\nThe pensions which the current elderly generation earned in the 60's and 70's are meagre compared to the current cost of living which means they regularly need to supply these with income from elsewhere. Another issue was the state endorsed prostitution which did not often leave the sex workers with any pension at all.\n\nIn my opinion the country has some serious issues to tackle moving forward. The gender pay gap is one of the highest in the OECD, they are in the top 3 for longest working hours, sexual minorities and other disadvantaged groups (disabled, for example) face a plethora of issues, not to mention the elderly poverty or the wealth inequality in general.\n\nI hope they can move towards a more healthy society for all.", "I have zero context for what is happening in this video. I'm ignoring the title. Can someone fill me in?", "Keep in mind on squid game this is $40 million to someone who has been living under crippling debt and in the poorest rung of housed society.", "Mate don't pretend like you've come here to have a legitemate debate", "I too defend myself by invading. USSR was pretty genocidal to defend itself from the Nazis :)))) China was genocidal for defending itself from Japan\n\n>propped up by the US?\n\nNK was propped up by the soviets and CCP\n\n>Clearly you know nothing of history and blindly drank the cool aid\n\nSays the history revisionist", "Snow piercer too. Well to a degree", "Why, does the thought terminating categorization in your head already give a conclusion?", "I think you just had a stroke", "So upvoting propaganda and lies and downvoting genuine information is okay because my attitude is unrefined?", "HURR DURR, CaPiTalISm Bad, bEcAUsE CaPiTaLisM EviL…\n\nsure buddy, I’m the guy who’s stupid and naive… get a job and start paying taxes instead of talking about shit you don’t understand", "You have said that poverty is low in SK while providing an OECD graph that had SK as 5th highest country in terms of poverty rate. The link you provided shows that old age poverty is highest amongst the 40 countries included and 18-65 age range poverty is dead on average so yes, it is an issue beyond just the elderly. It's not lies or propaganda. It's exaggeration of truth, which should absolutely be corrected. \n\nAnd yes, your message is absolutely meaningless if you can't convey it in a way that would make people take it seriously. If you go around calling people liar while screaming propaganda with the data you're providing not disproving them, others won't take you seriously, especially when you say you are on crusade to make things right. \n\nIf you can understand that your attitude is the main reason why people didn't take you seriously, you can right more wrongs. If you go \"wrong! You are wrong and I am right. You are all idiots for thinking otherwise\" then no, people will not like you and you'll live in your own bubble. You should say \"you are right but you are exaggerating the truth. Here's data comparison of COL in LA and Seoul. Here are two similar apartments from Seoul and LA costing X of minimum wage, here's a source for it too.\" All you did was shouting back at someone while not providing meaningful sources of your own. Both of what you two did was propaganda if you're going to call it that.", ">You have said that poverty is low in SK while providing an OECD graph that had SK as 5th highest country in terms of poverty rate.\n\nI said the poverty outside the elderly age group is low, and provided a link that shows South Korea has a low poverty outside that group (the average among developed countries is low).\n\n>with the data you're providing not disproving them,\n\nI did disprove them tho. His claim that \"A very large portion of SK people live in poverty, not just the elderly.\" was entirely false. His claim about COL was false (mf linked real estate prices as COL and got upvoted, btw), his claim about hourly wage was false (some pre-2000 numbers). He pulled all those things out of his ass and all of it got upvoted. Then he pulled out the usual suicide rates card which needs context for if people in Korea lived as short as people in America most of the suicides wouldn't even have a chance to occur. And still despite those suicide rates Korea outlives all but 2 countries.\n\n>both of what you two did was propaganda\n\nlmfao jfc.\n\nThousands of Amerishits are now dumber and think South Korea is some poverty stricken shithole with a COL of California and a salary of Philippines and you have absolutely no problem with that. [This sums it up pretty much](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qhj11n/comment/higcax9/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)\n\nNext time I'm just gonna copypaste raw data and fuck off from there before I start punching air", "Tbf, most people missed the anti consumer message in Thrift Shop even when it was in not so subtle English. Most people really don't pay attention to lyrics.", "I want people to start commenting 'This is just like Jurassic Park!' on posts about the US.", "I'm not American. I have no qualm against you, and I've been acting in your interests and you can't hold being hostile back even towards me. No reason to engage with someone who isn't in their right mind. I'll do what you do just mute the thread.", "Every Amazon employee is a participant.", "You've been stroking your own dick taking the moral high ground. No worries mate next time I'm in a situation like this I'm gonna be as robotic in my responses as humanly possible", "That's only accurate to say because a simplification in terminology is putting two disparate applications under one blanket term.", "Currently just this one. I had some big ones back in the day but they banned them because they said I had multiple at the same time.", "First of all, private property is something like a business where you employ people for a wage. Personal property are your own objects that you own like your home, your computer, your cookwares etc. If you ran and owned a small store yourself or owned together with someone, that store would be your personal property. The moment you hired someone to work in that store but they didn't own part of it, that store becomes private property. \n\n\nAnd what we just saw in this very video is peoples personal property being confiscated under a capitalist system!", "I never realized how small SK is", "Please, expound", "It's not", "?", "I thought they had healthcare for pets? Doesn’t that mean life is perfect in South Korea? Did you already forget the asinine argument you were making the other day?", "Wow you're obsessed aren't you? Hey strawman Joe, who ever said life was perfect in South Korea?\n\nAt least it's not as bad as here!\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy7qUtDGXZs", "That is a another stupid myth that people throw around, the whole \"tax the rich\" mantra people shout isn't going to cover much of anything.\n\nIn fact, taxing the rich is would have the opposite effect people envision, all it will do is make them further invest into the same companies they have and not in the people. Its happened before.\n\nEven then, say you tax the ultra rich, you really think they are going to report what they actually have? Chances are what the IRS can already tax is known in the stocks they have. But the IRS can't literally do a damn thing if its not in the USA.\n\nYou know how easy it is to just make US currency disappear? Literally can do in in seconds and its like it never even existed...at least to the IRS.", "You're an idiot.", "lmao dude your idea of what socialism is is on par with a child lol. Read marx.", "This is quite possibly some of the most pathetic defeatist shit I've ever read in my entire life.", "Perhaps YOU read the book by yourself. None of this \"Prostitution provided 25% of Korea's GNP and that's how Korea developed its economy\" is spoken in the book. Those things came from faulty journalism and Wikipedia.", "Get the fuck out of here. Have you lived in a city? Have you had homeless people sleeping outside your building? Have you had them break into the lobby and steal packages? Have you had them harass you drunk and high at midnight when you’re trying to walk your dog? Have you had to step over and around pools of piss, needles, trash, and literal shit?\n\nIt’s not some minor inconvenience for people you moron.", "You say you are reading the book as we speak, then you should know by now that this Wikipedia article's saying of \"prostitution contributed 25% of Korean GNP\" or the OP's insistence on how Korea developed its economy through prostitution is not supported by the book. Simple as that.", "The book literally speaks of how segregated, separated, and isolated they were from Korean society.\n\nThe quote was not taken out of context, for it speaks the figure by itself. The 25% GNP contribution refers to the US Army presence and its economic impacts, not prostitution.\n\nIt would also be ludicrous to say that Korea had nothing to do with prostitution. In another comment I precisely said \"the government actively promoted prostitution\" and no more. The power dynamics behind of such promotion is the subject of the book, not \"prostitution funded Korea's development\".", "It broke my heart when I first read the book and still does today. At least the Korean edition did.", "Ah it's nothing. Thanks for bearing with me.", "First of all I'm french, and no, the markets are not freer. There are much more regulations to finance and business practices, as well as much more nationalized public services. It is going downhill though", "Haha, ok little buddy.", "That's because they're morons.", "It's a well known fact that the Dutch have cultural autism. You cant parse normal communication for nuanced meaning. You don't understand sarcasm or metaphor. You shouldn't engage in debate with other people because you're literally incapable of understanding what they are saying to you.", "Really too bad English doesn't have a word for grandma", "You can't... tax... the rich.", "Shill can be directed at anything, you can shill for yourself..", "Jesus Christ this is the dumbest thing I'll read this week. You think we don't have sarcasm or metaphor....? Talk to a Dutchman sometime mate and get out of your basement.", "I just watched you fail to understand relative scale or form any understanding beyond a direct literal interpretation for like 5 comments in a row with that guy up there...so if I'm taking you as an example...", "What are the disparate applications under the term capitalism that you're referring to?", "> bleeding hearts just start demanding they stop right now\n\nI have no idea what is your mental problem really. \n \nI was just wanting to know if they are throwing it not. I have no sympathy of them selling things illegally. \nBut if they purchases those things and are selling it to live, throwing it to the trash is just a blow to the gut. \nIf a shop is putting stuff on the sidewalk for sale illegally, they would get a fine, not their stuff confiscated. \n \n> Nothing about this says they are stealing it or confiscating it \n \nWhat is why I asked you nitwit.", "Apologies for the delay, I did not have time in the week to devote toward a complete response.\n\nI will have to withdraw the 25% figure as although there are a wealth of studied from reputable university studies and papers, the figure is polluted by all drawing from the same or similar sources. Due to the nature of the industry, hard reported figures are difficult to amass however what numbers do exist still support a monumental economic impact:\n\n>In 1964, when total Korean exports were roughly $100 million, camptown clubs catering exclusively to American soldiers earned almost $10 million, accounting for approximately 10 percent of foreign earnings (Han’guk Ilbo 10 February 2004) [...] approximately 46,000 Korean workers in camptowns earned $70 million in 1969 alone (SLng and Chang, 1970, 134) ([source](https://drum.lib.umd.edu/bitstream/handle/1903/4162/umi-umd-3959.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y))\n\nThe name of the doctor I mentioned who first popularized blepharoplasty was David \"Ralph\" Miller. Who wrote and published multiple papers on his time in Korea and it is noted that [Many of his patients were women in the sex trade](https://www.wilsonquarterly.com/quarterly/transitions/eyes-wide-cut-the-american-origins-of-koreas-plastic-surgery-craze/), electing to go under the knife in order to increase their appeal to American GIs. Millard trained local doctors to continue his work after his departure. The problems with the 25% number cannot be denied, but what also cannot be denied is that this was a state coordinated effort, it did reach into the hundreds of thousands of women and girls, and that it definitely had a clear social and economic impact which continue to today. The financial aspect of the money generated undeniably contributing to Korea's economic recovery. I apologize for not using more accurate data when attempting to discuss such a delicate issue, however, to benefit from these women's sacrifices while also attempting to deny that it had any meaningful impact or contribution to the national recovery and rebuilding of the Korean economy is as great a disservice and disrespect as the original request that the government of the time first made upon them", "Nah I understand relative scale buddy, but it just doesn't always apply. To call the Netherlands socialist instead of capitalist just because the USA is more capitalist is very ignorant.\n\nDon't go calling people names just because you disagree, or because you don't understand.", "Right so the thing you continually failed to grasp was that he was describing to you that your country is relatively socially progressive compared to the states. He acknowledged that people in the states use the word socialist to to mean socially progressive. You failed to interact with him beyond repeating 'Socialism=/=Capitalism...which we all know and understand. You were crippled by the use of the word socialism and refused to understand what it meant in the context. Putting you on block because you're clearly incapable of interacting in this language.", "It's not like they didn't receive dozens of warnings though, they know it's against the law", "They were asked dozens of times prior to this", "They most likely warned them more than 5 times", "The title is most likely misleading on purpose", "? We all live under capitalism, you didn't need that comment to understand either of those shows", "A white man with a korean wife spreading wrong facts about korea on reddit? Shocking", "Squid Game are also supposed to be held all over the world. Somehow people always miss that detail. Korea didn't invent capitalism", "It's bizzare how people on this thread talk about capitalism as a korean-only concept. The comparisons with squid game and parasite are so brain dead", "Squid game are supposed to be held all over the world, not only korea. It's like you all missed an important part of the plot.", "US has bankruptcy laws and people typically just ignore debt collectors so that is how I know this was a work of fiction.", "Mate I've enjoyed 14 years of education in this language. Can't help it that you and many other Redditors seem to have enjoyed very little. The fact that you resorted to calling it \"Dutch autism\" says enough about how amazingly ignorant you are.", "Couldn’t have said it better myself, really confused as to how the original comment got so upvoted.", "This dude has followed me around Reddit in a few different accounts. He’s a troll and hasn’t gotten banned yet, somehow. It’s best not to engage with him.", "Who me? I only have one account. Why are you lying about me? And literally you’re following me around Reddit right now on a clearly new account.", "many of the countries you named are\n\nhttps://immigrantinvest.com/en/insider/economic-freedom-rating-2021/", "Sure but that index is mostly about corruption, private property and so on. Not about public services and welfare", "When I was growing up my country was socialist with a \"centralised planned economy\", which almost drove it to the brink of famine and ruin. So all one gets with \"centralised housing\" is Pruitt-Igoe. The US is the most prosperous country in the history of civilization for a reason. I'd love to hear from people who fled communism talking about it in glowing terms.", "Haha, Yes the Cuban missile crisis had nothing to do with the USSR and everything to do with the USA. Yay!", "Lol. Please tell me the \"fallacy\" that you're referring to and how it's a fallacious. You probably criticize the Cubans emigres in Miami who fled as \"rats\" or whatever, right?", "The willful ignorance you have on the topic is hilarious. \n\nAlso I should correct my comment to the US interfering since the 1900s considering the US gave themselves the rights to forcibly intervene in the political affairs of the island nation since then.\n\nAfter the missile crisis, the US never uplifted it's trade embargo on the country. Meaning the US STILL limits and controls the trade that Cuba can do to this day. Meanwhile while Obama opened up some travel and trade restrictions during his terms in office, Trump instead reversed all of that further emboldening a economic stranglehold on the country. \n\nSeriously, read a book or something.", ">Lol. Please tell me the \"fallacy\" that you're referring to and how it's a fallacious. \n\nStraw man/Red Herring, you completely misrepresent what I said and insert irrelevant ramblings.\n\n> You probably criticize the Cubans emigres in Miami who fled as \"rats\" or whatever, right?\n\nYou're either a troll or a massive idiot. Either way you're just trying to waste my time.", "it's about freedom of economy. You're the one with the strange notion that public services and welfare are contrary to that", "Haha no that's not what I'm saying. All I'm saying is that because of public services and welfare, these countries aren't as far gone down the capitalist hell as the US and others. But again, we're definitely trending towards it", "no, you used the term \"late stage capitalist,\" but there's no reason to think these countries are any less late stage capitalist than the US, especially given that they rank even higher in freedom of economy and have even lower corporate taxes", "I don’t need to buy into anything, I live in the United States and see it with my own two eyes", "There’s too many people in the world already so maybe that’s for the good", "The thing is that as countries develop and people get access to better education and healthcare, they actually chose to have less children. Two major reasons why people had so many kids before is because they didn't expect them all to make it and the kids could help with chores.", "No. The other dude. You’re good. I had to make another account because he would literally spam Reddit cares messages to me constantly.", "It seems in my eyes it’s the opposite but I’m not a professional statistical person", "Why would you think that? All of the data says otherwise.\n\nThe global fertility rate is dropping, mostly because of better access to education, healthcare, and economic opportunity.\n\nThe reason people used to have 12 kids is because like 6-8 of them would die.", "Where in the world are that many children dying , what time of world are we talking about? 1920?", "Do you know what \"fertility rate\" means?", "Yes, that is my educated guess on how this was likely to have happened - not verified. That said, I don't imagine the city workers can confiscate things without enforcing an existing rule, so whether there were many verbal warnings or not would be legally/ethically irrelevant although a nice to have. There is also an important distinction here between stealing and confiscating. We could try to agree on their respective definitions, and I'd start with stealing as taking someone else's possessions for your own gain, without their consent, and without legal approval. Confiscation is more about the removal of forbidden items in a given location. There is implied consent given that the person knowingly chose to bring items to a place where they were forbidden. People generally don't want to have items taken from them, but some choose to risk losing them anyway, and they have a right to that choice - along with its consequences." ]	1,418	videos	City workers confiscating goods from old people trying to get by. (Seoul)
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qhjm9u/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qhjm9u/deleted_by_user/	[ "Smh", "Wow take that Dave Chappelle", "This especially makes sense to me given that there have always been intersex people. Though they still can identify as m or f in gender ofcourse.", "Great news", "Now that I think about it, what the fuck is even the point of having genders written on documents that have no need for it whatsoever.\n\nYou either ascertain a person's identity with documents they produce or come up with some other form of authentication like passwords &/or tokens", "This is good but I do wonder how other countries would react to it. As a trans person I wouldn't even consider transiting through places like Dubai. I can't imagine how a country that isn't accepting of LGBTI+ people would handle this.", "To be honest though it doesn't seem like a broad \"trans\" issue, rather specifically in this case intersex, hence why it was probably granted.\n\nHowever X on your passport or not I think you'd be fucking mental to go somewhere like Dubai as LGBTQ. You'd be literally giving money to support a system and society that actively tries to oppress people like you. To be honest I don't think people should be travelling to places like that anyway.\n\nI haven't read much about it and I have no idea how those countries would react to it, but I'd guess a lot of people would be more accepting in those cultures of Intersex simply because it's a confirmed biological state from birth, rather than an average trans person that decided to transition later on for no (confirmed at least) biological reason. Why dysmorphia is a thing for most people isn't very well understood scientifically which breeds hate and distrust, compared to Intersex which at least has physical/biological markers.", "I didn't think they had genders on documents, they have sex? Medically it's pretty obvious, and for everything else like passports/driving licenses, it's just another identifier to help ensure you're looking at the right person.", "Blows my mind that people worry about gender so much. There really isn't a reason to have a gender designation on any government document.", "Is it literally gender though? I mean I don't know where the fuck my passport is right now, but I'm pretty sure it shows Sex specifically rather than gender?\n\nTo be honest I get why, it's just another identifier. Why have a passport photo when you can look vastly different later on. I look nothing like the photo on my drivers license because the picture was taken 10 years ago even if theres a small resemblance in face shape. However, people are regularly caught out because they don't look remotely like the same person on their license, and along with other details, can lead to it being exposed as a fake/stolen ID.\n\nAlone they're not very important, all together they try to make people identifiable as possible. Get rid of everything that alone is unecessary and you'll end up with a numbered tab with no real identifiers that can be used by literally anyone with no way to verify if they match, without doing DNA/Fingerprint matching everytime to verify.", "If you need to be searched, who should do it, a woman? a man? a dog?... \nYou can identify as whatever you want, but anatomically you are something, and you might have extra cavities or no.", "Search without touching then. It's already present at most airports, ladies get to be searched behind a curtain but men & kids are not, that's some real BS?", "So your saying that if you grow out your hair & shave after being a bear for the DMV headshot, that image is still going to help identify you? I've heard a lot of people give excuses like cops need to be able trace people and all. Like won't skilled criminals anyway get away with deception", "See my other comment, I mentioned that specifically. I don't look much like my picture from 10 years ago on my license, but I'm still vaaaguely recognisable. I could be completely unrecognisable with ease. Yet 95% of people are recognisable by their picture, and 99.9% of people that have their Sex as Male on their ID, present as traditionally male. So it clearly has a use.\n\nIt's just one more identifier.\n\nWhy even have your name on there? Why not just have a government assigned ID number? Just my driving license number. No one can look at a name and say \"Yea you look like a Gavin, this must be your ID\". If an indian guy is walking around with an ID that says his name is John Smith, maybe he is called John Smith, but if his picture ALSO doesn't look much like him, together they're signs to have a look into it.\n\nBut again, it's just one more identifier. Alone they don't mean much, all together it's the best we can do unless you want to have a barcode with no information linking to your physical appearance, linking to a government database that also doesn't have any of that information because it's \"useless\", and so, ID becomes absolutely useless because your ID can freely be used by literally anyone, anywhere, and then you're complaining that the government wants to collect your DNA and Fingerprints because it's the only way to identify who's who.", "Haven't other countries been doing this already?\n\nDoes this mean US will fully-recognize non-US gender X passports?", "They already deal with this", "My drivers license a couple years ago said I was 40 pounds lighter, had a different color hair, and I didn't have glasses yet.", "I can pass as either male or female depending on how I dress so does it really matter if the card says M/F?", "My mom lost her shit when they took \"Mother and father\" off birth certificates and just had \"Parent 1\" and \"Parent 2\" \n\nShe was all worked up about \"this takes away my validity as a mother\" \n\nAnd I wanted to be like \"Nah, mom, you acting like this as the parent to a LGBT person and aunt to another LGBT person is taking away your validity as a parent\"", "Whoosh.", "Okay", "I didn't look like my drivers license or match any of the details. Still didn't cause me any issues at the airport or traffic stops -- even when traveling internationally.", "Okay\n\nYou could've just read my comment and saved us both time." ]	23	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtube.com/watch?v=4o6MIJ7Iq1U	/r/videos/comments/qhjpno/i_present_purno_de_purno_a_dutch_animated_series/	[ "My favorite part from this episode is how the main character is being ‘tickled’ at 8:16", "Omg. Happy cakeday", "[ Jump to 08:16 @ Purno de Purno - S01E02 - In het hol van de kietelaar](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o6MIJ7Iq1U&t=0h8m16s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Purno de Purno, Video Popularity: 85.36%, Video Length: [13:14])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@08:11](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o6MIJ7Iq1U&t=0h8m11s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)" ]	3	videos	I present ‘Purno de Purno’ a Dutch animated series aimed at children, which aired, on a public broadcast station, on sunday mornings in the 90s. Every episode is basically one big not so subtle sexual innuendo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqDWAzVqrIM	/r/videos/comments/qhl0jd/how_do_the_fans_keep_them_from_flying_away/	[ "I think the video is self-explanatory, but here we go. Wind is being blow in all directions.", "Think of the wind as a cone with the tip pointing up. Once the fabric is blown out side of the cones influence, it stops moving. This fabric does not have the momentum to travel in dead air however. So while it does travel outside of the cone of influence, it will only fall back down into the cone.", "its cg", "They should harness this black magic and apply it to headphone cords.", "already do, but it only works in pockets", "Because the fabric is terrified of getting tangled up in them.", "oh fuck oh jesus how do I get out of here", "Ever used a fan before?", "smooth", "Cause fans suck and they blow", "The fans are blowing at each other into the circle. This causes an upward draft of air that the fabric goes along for the ride with. Gravity is bringing the fabric back down. These two forces are constantly equalizing through chaotic variations so it rises and sinks.\n\nBut why does it stay inside the fan ring and not blow away? It's all about air pressure. Faster moving air has a lower air pressure. These fans blow fast moving air and create low air pressure. The shape of this low pressure zone is a shaped like a cylinder. As the fabric is blown outside of this invisible cylinder, it comes into contact with higher pressure air and is forced back to the cylinder.", "That music is so relaxing. Anyone know the name of the song?\n\nEdit: Nm found it. “Meditative Flow” by Raimu" ]	12	videos	how do the fans keep them from flying away?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilPmPar2SM4	/r/videos/comments/qhl6sw/brazilian_evangelist_warns_about_pokémon_turn_on/	[ "Not Brazilian, he is speaking Spanish.", "Yeah, they speak Portuguese in Brazil, right?", "Hmm. When I Googled him it said in the knowledge panel said he was born\n\n> Santa Maria, State of Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil\n\nI can't find where Google got that. It could be wrong, or he may have moved countries.", "But those are Yu-Gi-Oh cards….", "Clearly this man knows not what he speaks of. Those first cards are not Pokémon. Looks like yu-gi-oh cards to bad he didn’t have a blue eyes white dragon oops I mean Devil. But I see at the end he had a few Pokémon (pocket monster) cards.", "Rio Grande do Sul is on south of Brazil, very close to Paraguay, Argentina and Uruguay borders. Yeah, he may have moved.. but is extremely unlikely some pastor preaches in Spanish in Brazil. Bilingual cities on Brazil are maybe (and a big maybe) some small border city." ]	6	videos	Brazilian Evangelist Warns about Pokémon (turn on subtitles)
https://youtu.be/67QsrpNH96Q	/r/videos/comments/qhlbl9/why_do_team_leaders_insist_on_consensus/	[ "The timing on this haha. \nI am a team lead, and I used to disagree with my previous team lead a lot. Hence why I took this position to change how things are done at least in my dept.\n\nBut it's also our duty to simply take responsibility when ~~she~~ shit goes bad.", "Oh I love David Mitchell, he is the absolute master of the rant xD", "i get what he is saying but if I am handing down instructions to my team, I want their best effort and that comes when I have their buy in. And I want them to feel like they believe in the work they are doing and their input is valued and their perspectives appreciated...", "I dont think that's his point though. He's very much going after the people that force consensus when there is none, and disallow disagreement. Both to be a smug twat about it and try and cover their ass so they can point at their team later when shit goes tits up.", "Also a team lead. If you don’t have the team’s consensus and it all works out, you look like a forward-thinking genius. But if it doesn’t… you will shoulder the blame from all directions.\n\nYour boss will start to get on your back. Teammates will start to resent you, question your leadership, your decision-making, etc. And now you’re playing office politics which is a nightmare.\n\nIt’s stressful sometimes. My least favorite part of being a lead. But the perks are nice.", "To prevent people from dragging their feet and creating a bad mood while doing a thing.\n\nI can't discipline you if you're moving slightly slower or making slightly more mistakes then you usually would. If you don't agree to do a thing you're not going to do it very well. \n\nAlso if it's just one team member that's come up with an idea. I need to make sure everyone else is on board. If it doesn't work out I am responsible. So I want to hear the input from everyone on the team to make that one team member didn't miss something that could be a major problem.\n\nIf you want to find out if your team lead is a true power tripper. Get everyone on the team to agree on the idea ahead of time. Then have the meeting. If the team lead doesn't have a valid reason not to do a thing but everyone on the team agrees that it's a good thing to do, and they still decide not to do it. You have a problematic team lead in my opinion.", "I always tried to let my team figure out the best way for themselves, and gave them practical constraints based on department best practice. Writing good Acceptance Criteria on tickets was a skill we practiced. If they were really stuck, I'd show them a couple of ways to get the job done, and ask them to pick the one they were most comfortable with. For a whole bunch of other things, I'd just make a decision, and explain why I thought that was best, given the options - but that was mainly when I'd volunteered to do a task to help move the project along, rather than simply managing and reporting on progress.", "Thats why you get those perks, because you have to be held responsible, not your team", "Dead on. (Old boss . . .) We're going to sit in this meeting until you agree. Then when it goes wrong (just like you tried to tell me for 4 hours) it'll be your fault for agreeing to it and not fighting hard enough.\n\nConversely, the (vanishingly few times) it goes right . . . that's entirely my (the bosses) success.", "That's the basic point of a team leader right? Otherwise why do we even need a team lead? Might as well have a secretary that collects and facilitate the group votes on stuff and announce the tally.", "On that: Once upon a time I met 1-2-1 with all the seniors in the department, got them to map out all the services they thought we were responsible for, then sent out a survey asking people to agree/disagree with the names and descriptions, and took that data to the Product Owner, who then basically refused to agree/acknowledge any of the recommendations. Even after several months of meetings to agree what needed doing end-to-end the to serve our customers, the Product Owner still didn't sign off on anything, and kept micromanaging people with tasks. I left the company 12 months later after trying to do three roles, being left without a clear direction, and not getting any reasonable engagement from Product; (We were meeting once a week to review priorities and progress, and it was like pulling teeth).\n\n( Maybe the problem was with me? )", "At my previous job, and those times I disagreed with my bosses I never had a problem saying \"Based on my experience, I don't think we should go this direction, and this is why... But you're the boss, and if you want us to do it, I'm totally on board. You write the paychecks.\"\n\nOver the course of years, when things went tits up just exactly as I'd predicted, they came to trust my judgement as SME and I rose to a director level position. The key is disagreeing without anger, and being willing to do something you disagree with without rancor or resentment.", "> i get what he is saying but if I am handing down instructions to my team, I want their best effort and that comes when I have their buy in\n\nI think that's a myth. If you want my best effort you have to give me the time, resources, and money I require for it. My agreement with your instructions is not required, and making me \"pretend\" to agree will only make me want to do it less, not more.\n\n> And I want them to feel like they believe in the work they are doing and their input is valued and their perspectives appreciated...\n\nIf you're handing down instructions that I don't agree with, then there's no amount of dancing you can do to make me feel valued and appreciated. If you valued and appreciated my opinion, you'd agree with it. Of course, when there's disagreement, not everyone is going to be right. And that's fine. When the meeting is adjourned, the people who weren't agree with should feel like their opinion wasn't valued because it was considered wrong. And later down the road, if it turns out they were wrong, and they are bothered by their opinions not being valued, then they should get better at their job and give better opinions.\n\nWhere this falls down usually is that when it turns out I was right after all, the boss never comes back and says, \"Hey, you were right, that other person was wrong, I was wrong. Next time I'll listen to you more and them less.\" and then I would feel valued. But instead the boss either hides behind the faux \"consensus\" and blames everyone, or finds some other party to put the blame on.", "I’m Israeli. We don’t have this problem. “I don’t agree with this, but you’re the boss” is just how things get settled over here.\n\nIt has its advantages (everybody’s direct and to the point, nobody holds back on their position) and its disadvantages (nobody holds back on their position).", "This seems like a conundrum experienced in most large organizations. The people most capable of enacting change are for the same reason the least likely to hear about the need for change. People are afraid of getting fired, so they don't stir the pot. As a result, the people at the top think things are always going as planned until everything blows up.", "Based on all the other leads I've worked for, I thought I was supposed to get paid more to do jack shit.", "Agreed. You get one good objection. State it professionally and document it. After that, the chain of command is accepting the risk and you move forward.\n\nDoes not apply to significantly high impact risks (e.g. loss of life).", "> To prevent people from dragging their feet and creating a bad mood while doing a thing.\n\nI don't know where this idea comes from but it's rubbish. Getting together and agreeing on an idea is fine. Mitchell is talking about when we don't agree. Are you going to put the entire project on hold until I agree? No, you're going to push ahead with it. But you want to create the illusion of agreement, the illusion of buy-in. And me having to pretend to agree with you just to get the meeting over with without you resenting me is only going to put me in a worse mood, not a better one.\n\n> I can't discipline you if you're moving slightly slower or making slightly more mistakes then you usually would.\n\nWhy not? Seems like that's part of your job.\n\n> If you don't agree to do a thing you're not going to do it very well.\n\nAgain, I don't know where this idea comes from. How many jobs have you worked in your life where you didn't agree with what choices management was making? Everyone has gone through that. If you're telling me you've been sandbagging the whole time you worked at jobs you didn't believe in it only makes me like you less, not more. I give the best effort I can with the resources I'm given regardless of whether or not I agree with something.\n\n> Also if it's just one team member that's come up with an idea. I need to make sure everyone else is on board. If it doesn't work out I am responsible. So I want to hear the input from everyone on the team to make that one team member didn't miss something that could be a major problem.\n\nHearing input from everyone is not the same as building consensus. If one team member comes up with an idea, and I tell you it's a bad idea and here's why, and you decide my objection isn't true or sufficient, then fine. You can even try to convince me I'm wrong. But if I don't agree, you don't need to me to pretend and be like \"Oh, right, I see now, of course you're correct after all.\" Again, THAT is going to create a worse mood than simply saying \"I'm going with Bob on this one, sorry Bruce.\"", ">Something about how somebody with as much reddit karma as I have\n\nLmao, that's new. I've never heard of anyone judging someone for having high karma. I've been on reddit for half the time you have and have double the karma. I guess that makes me four times as worse according to that stranger. But hey, I have a job too. Guess reddit karma doesn't have anything to do with that. Besides, my random comments get hundreds of upvotes but most of my effort posts go unnoticed.", "Pretty much though. Keep the department running smoothly, jump in when shit hits the fan, and in all simply take responsibility for your departments short comings.\n\nIn turn enjoy doing much of nothing and getting paid a little higher.\n\nEdit: Nothing compared to what I used to do at least. I was busy 100% of the time. Now I am sporadically busy. Mostly fixing workflows or working on making things better so we don't get caught with our pants down.", "The amount of times I'll have a conversation with managers that is along the lines of \"well I'm making the decision because I'm in charge, and the team largely agree\"\n\n\nSo which is it? Are you taking responsibility for this or are you saying the team should?", "As a team lead. You should take responsibility no matter what imo. \n\nI work at a great company where despite our mistakes we don't put people down. We simply learn and make adjustments so that we do not commit the infraction again.", "I'm thinking of leaving my own after Christmas. It's a comfortable place that's the problem but the management treat everyone like children and it's just unbearable to me.", "Then just voice your disaproval? It's not that hard. Unreletable.", "What field are you in?", "Likely because you almost all have military experience.", "This behavior is caused by insecurity. Brene Brown's book Dare to Lead goes over these kinds of issues. Too many leaders are afraid to have tough conversations and allow people to openly share their true feelings.", "Software Engineering", "I'm American and have never really had this problem. Every job I've ever had the expectation was that you defer to the boss and once a decision has been made you follow through even if you disagree. My current job even more than any prior as I am a consultant and don't have any real authority within the company that pays for my work, so the expectation is that I provide input but have no actual decision making power. \n\nI don't think it is really a country to country issue, more of a workplace to workplace issue. This whole video was a bit odd for me to watch because it is no something I've ever experienced.", "I could care less!", "Yeah I work in IT. If something is a bad idea, I very much say so. If we go a direction I think is incorrect or will cause headache, I make sure it is known. I will ultimately do the job, since that's what I'm paid to do, but I won't take ownership of a bad decision made by someone else. \n\nAnd I generate CYAs to this effect. So that when this \"well you agreed to it\" finger pointing comes up, I can point to my CYA and say \"here's where I said we shouldn't do this thing\".", "Ah. Yeah I am at an msp. We got a tiny devops team nothing major.", "yep, weak leaders that can't make decisions\n\ncompanies too often promote good \"doers\" and expect them all to be good leaders, but they just aren't", "Doesn't the trouble comes when a year down the line, no one remembers that they should have trusted you. Seems like in most places, after a decision is made, it is set in stone and you rise or sink with it.", "That's what a good leader does. Takes responsibility when it goes wrong, and when things go right make sure you give the credit to your team.", "I was there 11 years. I never ran into that particular problem.\n\nThen again, when trouble did come, I was willing to say \"As you recall,\" and recap my earlier objections.", "It's probably people that tend to have shitty opinions that nobody agrees with, and they can't comprehend how you get rewarded more (with karma, which is considered a reward to them) for not being an utter twat.", "I'm 100% a good \"doer\". Just tell me what to do and I will do it. But try to put me in a position of \"leading\" and I start to micromanage, and I don't like that, and I know others don't either. And the reason I start to micromanage is I always feel that I am the only one that is doing it correctly (usually based on evidence of everyone else doing it incorrectly). So it's a lot of \"only way to do it right is to do it yourself\". Which essentially means I go from \"doer\" to \"doer-by-proxy\".", "My first programming job, my boss had limited tech knowledge. They'd tell me what they wanted, and it was up to me to figure out the how.\n\nThen, in my next job, I went from solo work, to collaboration with teams, and this consensus issue was always in play.\n\nSo, it certainly is dependent on the workplace.", "Yeah that was my lost job.\n\nMe: \"Ok, let's do it that way!\"\n\nBoss: \"So you agree that it's the best way?\"\n\nMe: \"No, I still think that blah blah, but that's fine.\"\n\nBoss: \"Sigh! No it's not fine, alright then, let's go over this one more time...\"\n\nFucker.", "And, likewise, you typically want the lead to be good at it", "Yeah same. I regularly have to tell my bosses I disagree with a certain practise but that I'll do it if they overrule me. Never been an issue, but it does mean that when shit goes tits up because of it (which it sometimes does), I get to push the blame on. Honestly, about 30% of my job is covering my ass to make sure that if shit goes wrong, I'm not the one that gets the blame.", "Classic Sabra. It can be a bit rough if you aren't expecting it", "[Disagree and Commit!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disagree_and_commit) This principle mainly applies when multiple stakeholders have a say in how something turns out, and less applicable when decision-making is extremely hierarchical (lower tier participants' decision already don't matter). In my work, a lot of projects are co-led by two individuals. Even though I am typically more senior or more experienced, I will defer to a stakeholder when they have more long-term obligation to the decision. I'll go through my objections, and if they still like their idea, disagree and commit fully. You don't need perfect consensus throughout an entire project, but you do need to commit fully once a decision has been made.", "Man, imagine if Mitchell didn't actually believe this, but got worn down in meetings until he agreed to say it anyway.", "That’s terrible motivation for consensus.", "This perfectly describes my time in the corporate world. My idea, presented, dismissed, and twisted into someone else’s idea. That I was responsible for implementing as my idea. That when it failed it was all my fault, not the fault of the person whose idea it really was.", "When it comes to how something needs to be done I have my team lead me, the know more than I do and I’d be a fool not to listen to them", "Almost like parents taking credit for their kid's success but not the blame for their failures. 🤔", "Yeah, that's a weird one. I think I got 90% of my reddit karma while \"working\" in my office job.", "I feel like he's ignored the obvious reasons to do this:\n\n* So it's understood of a course of action will impact everyone else.\n* So people can bring up their objections BEFORE a final choice is made.\n* So the people doing the task understand they are indeed responsible for the consequences of their actions regardless of the outcome.\n* So the leader understands everyone's perspective.\n\nAnyone who just wants to say \"I told you so!\" when the idea fails is someone who probably should be trusted to carry out a task. Fault rarely needs to be assigned and responsibility is always collective on a team.\n\nToo many people want to just be made to do a task so they can either be a saint who carried it out or the sage who knew it was doomed but ignored, what they don't want it to be responsible for actually explaining issues ahead of time because in reality, they've using confirmation bias to convince themselves they're that much smarter than their boss. They also don't want to face the fact that it really doesn't matter how smart you are if you can't communicate ideas to other people.", "I bear a long term grudge against the US military for the way it treated my father and brother. However, I still struggle to push down a desire to join because an environment of frequent travel, clear chain of command, and rigid structure is the dream for a military brat when the civilian world is often spineless.", "Title should be \"why shitty team leaders insist on consensus\" \n\nSome bosses may insist on consensus for the reason described in the video. But the better ones are checking in with the group to leverage the group's collective expertise....not to get a false buy-in in order to place blame at some later date.", "Nice", "Actually this is a really interesting cultural thing that you might take interest in. What’s called power distance is a cultural thing that dictates how much gap there is between leaders and followers. If you find yourself thinking “I’m ok with my boss having a fancy car and living a life more lavish than I could hope for” that’s likely your cultural blinders directing you to feel that way, and you likely come from a relatively high power distance culture (like japan or the us) whereas Israel has one of the lowest power distances in the world. If you have a problem with your teachers principal, you feel entitled to say “you’re wrong and need to change your mind”, or tell your boss that they’re wrong and are going to doom the company without being regarded as someone who crossed a line.\n\n\nInteresting stuff", "Well and it makes sense right? If you make a good decision the team is still getting the job done, but if you make a bad decision it really is your fault. If as a leader your boss understands that then you’ll still reap the benefits of your teams success. Now if your boss doesn’t then you’re stuck in a losing situation where you’ll have to take credit to be in your bosses favor but it’ll be short lived because your team will grow to resent you.", "Hold up, I think we are talking about two different things.\n\n1. There is what you think about a software change as an engineer.\n2. There is what you software change you have agreed to implement.\n\nI am only talking about 2 here. I have no interest in controlling your mind or the minds of my team members. I do need to get consensus on that we will be doing as a team. That doesn't mean all the team members need to think it is a good idea. They just need to agree to it.\n\n>Are you going to put the entire project on hold until I agree?\n\nNo, if I say jump, you jump. I would rather not say jump. I would rather the team generally agrees with the direction.\n\n>But you want to create the illusion of agreement, the illusion of buy-in.\n\nNo, I want people to be honest about how they feel about a proposed idea/direction. If you are pretending to go along with it, I won't know. If you are pretending and don't share valuable input. I and the team will suffer because of it.\n\n>And me having to pretend to agree with you just to get the meeting over with without you resenting me is only going to put me in a worse mood, not a better one.\n\nI am fine if you resent me. I am payed not to care. I need to you to agree to do the work. Either because you will be fired or (preferably) for any other reason.\n\n>I can't discipline you if you're moving slightly slower or making slightly more mistakes then you usually would. \n> \n>Why not? Seems like that's part of your job.\n\nI can't get metrics for someone who is working slightly slower. If I think they are and I ask them why, then they can just say they are tired or something. Humans don't have consistent mental output.\n\nI can fire someone, but to use that as motivation for mental labor is a really bad idea. Writing software is not the same as flipping burgers. Developers are not cheap to replace and they don't work well for very long if they are not getting their emotional needs met.", "No, it’s much more of a general cultural thing I’d say.", "Yep. This takes a while to learn. It's hard to know there's a better way and to actively take a different path. But it's harder to swim upstream against the current constantly.\n\nLearn how to define the hill. And then ensure that you do not find yourself dying on said hill. \n\nIt may or may not lead to 'good things coming to those who wait'. But you'll be able to sleep at night. And your job will be much less stressful.", "I don't know much about different cultures (I am from the U.S.) but I remember being struck by scenes in the 2005 film Munich where the Israeli prime minister Golda Meir meets with the main character and others, and all her scenes are very informal and frank. To my American eyes, she did not act like a world leader would act, and the people in the room did not hold as much reverence for her as I would expect them to. I wonder if that was an illustration of the \"low power distance\" in the Israeli culture.", "Solutions not problems.\n\nThat's another key it can take a while to learn. Finding problems is easy. But if that's all you do, all you're actually doing is _creating_ problems for others. \n\nWhat people want is solutions. So if you are ever presenting a problem, have at least _one_ solution on hand right then and there. Even if it's not the right solution. Even if you don't know what a good solution looks like. Have _something_ ready to go.", "Given your story, I doubt it. Sounds like you were not even able to do the job you were assigned. \n\nLeadership can be difficult. If something goes wrong, it's your fault. This leads a lot of leaders to \"force\" nothing bad happening by micro-managing things. They are trying to protect themselves. \n\nHowever, as you have seen, this leads to a lot of problems. \n\nIn my option, if you are a leader, your job is to get things out of the way of the people under you. Are they going to mess up and cause you problems? Oh yeah they are. Is your team going to get upper management all upset with you? Yup. But that is part what it means to be a good leader. \n\nDo I blame leaders to become afraid and start to micro. Nope. It just means they need to get some help or step out of that role.", "Pro move? Take notes from the meeting, then at the end you e-mail the notes to boss, which include written objection to the idea but willingness to proceed based on bosses sole discretion. People can and will lie about what was said in person. Paper trails can't be dismissed.\n\nTo this end it's just good practice to keep notes from meeting then send follow ups to create paper trails. It helps with accountability overall and when the time comes that you actually need one, it doesn't seem weird that you're sending one over a single meeting because it's just something you always do for all meetings.", "This is why you make the objection in writing so you have proof. If they try to blame you for the projects failure you can say “look, a year ago I said it was a bad idea and you didn’t listen”", "I couldn't care more about David Mitchell!", "So this was fun, but recommended was his soapbox on \"rape and pillage\" with just an absolutely great line: \"a spoonful of sugar to help the rape go down\"", "If you ever seen video from the UK parliament, they will yell at the PM. Surprised me the first time I saw it.", "The exception to this rule is if the problem is catastrophic and its very existence should prevent things from going forward (e.g. physical danger to people). The hard part is correctly judging when that is the case so you don't lose credibility by treating some minor risk as a showstopper.", "And you call that good leadership? Ur a bad human being", ">That doesn't mean all the team members need to think it is a good idea. They just need to agree to it.\n\nThe rant in the video, and ensuing discussion thereof, is specifically about the kind of meetings where people are pressured to insist it's a good idea. Where merely agreeing to do it is not enough. His whole point is that he is perfectly happy with being told his opinion will not carry the day, and he needs to do such-and-such instead, but takes issue with the social convention that pressures people to \"come around\" and agree that the team leader's ultimate decision was, in fact, the best one all long.\n\nThat's what we're talking about here. If that's not what you're talking about, you're in the wrong thread.", "Maybe, but the title says \"consensus\". I assumed the question was real and the video was comical example. I errored on the side of caution.\n\n[~~https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/consensus~~](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/consensus)", "Being willing to do something you disagree with without rancor or resentment is important also because sometimes the boss's idea actually works even though you thought it would be a disaster. When that happens you don't want to be the person who made a big stink over nothing. It's good to stay humble and remember that everyone doesn't do things the same way, and some people can tie their own shoes without your help. You don't want to look like you think you're smarter than everyone else, even if you are, because people will feel like you don't respect them.", "Did he lose weight or is this old? Looking good", "Oh look, here comes storne again to say 'I told you so!'", "There is zero need to condescendingly link the dictionary definition of consensus. You're just being a prick.", "Something is missing from this argument so let me add it by playing the devil’s advocate quickly with an example.\n\nDrew and his friend Frank want to gamble and, for a reason we will assume is inconsequential for the sake of this example, they both want to use the same strategy.\n\nThey go to a small casino with two options, flip a coin and double your money on heads, or roll a standard dice and triple your money on a 6. Drew wants to gamble with coins whereas Frank wants to gamble with dice. “We could both flip tails and lose!” Frank cries.\n\nNo matter what they choose there is still a chance either could fail and they lose all their money. If they go with Drew’s coin flip route, which is statistically the better odds of winning money, they could both still lose. In the event that happens and if Frank says “I told you so” in the event they both lose, he is being a prick. Just because the bad thing you said could happen did happen, does not necessarily mean that your first choice was better.", "Ok, thanks.", "I think the adage “Don’t come with problems, come with solutions” is some of the worst advice around. It assumes that the person that recognizes the problem is also the one that should solve it. If not keep your mouth shut?That is rarely ever true in the real world. It’s why you work on a team. People have different responsibilities and they all intertwine.", "I'm fortunate I'm at a company where I've never been asked to pretend I agree. I can state my opinion professionally and they hear me out. Sometimes things go my way and sometimes they don't.", "And yet, having worked in the UK for seven years... You guys definitely have a huge power distance built around social class. I had working class peers who never thought of trying for a promotion, while those from wealthier backgrounds hustled hard and fast into managerial jobs. Same talent, different mindsets.", "The reason is because without consensus you don't feel ownership of the outcome. \n\nPeople will let the effort fail, and then say \"I knew it was doomed from the start.\"", "US elections in a nutshell. While I'm glad the cheeto got ran out of town, I have yet to meet a Biden supporter. In fact, the rallying call during the primary from Dems I knew was \"Please don't make me vote for Joe Biden\".", "The solution here seems to be to not be friends with Frank, or keep him at arm's length. As soon as he starts demonstrating fallacious thinking in a casino, it's time to let him play on his own. \nTo bring it back to the business world, don't do business, either as a boss or employee, with people who are bad decision makers. I think that's all there is to it.", "Sounds like the Tories - privatise profits, socialise losses.", "You're sort of describing the Peter Principle of Management.", "Because they're normally younger and less experienced, as it's the first natural step after being part of a team.\n\nSimple answer David.", "To be fair, that movie is 100% zionist propaganda.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nEdit based on thoughtful conversation: That movie is \\~86% zionist propaganda", "Right,.you!", "Yes agreed - I also do this and it has resulted in lots of promotions/raises. I'm also one of the very few people that do it that I've met - in fact I've downright shocked people when I say \"I disagree, but the only way to guarantee failure is to not co-operate, so I will support this effort vigorously.\"a", "He's not against meetings, he's against managers who feel the need to browbeat the team into confessing agreement with every decision. If Mr. Mitchell was in meetings where his feedback and ideas was being integrated into a new plan that he actually could agree with, he'd feel differently. Rather, he's clearly in meeting where he obviously doesn't agree with the outcome, but is feeling pressure to pretend he does. This happens all the time with bad management.\n\nThe reality is there won't always be full agreement, and that shouldn't be the goal. Managers should accept this, and that sometimes they will need to make decisions/plans their team doesn't like. Team members should be able to work in good faith even if they didn't agree with the plan. \n\nAnd finding fault isn't something to be avoided - mostly the problem is that it's not done soon enough so that it can be corrected. Things not progressing fast enough? We need to talk to the people doing that part to see if something needs course correction, whether someone is not pulling their weight, or if there was a serious problem in planning. Or maybe the product isn't going to meet the need in the end? That needs to be found out early through demos and testing so that if the plan is bad then it fails early.\n\nMost projects can be rescued, while some just need to be abandoned. Either way, that's a small cost if you're looking for problems or poor performance early - or potentially a huge cost if you wait for recriminations at the end.", "Seriously. \n\nMe: \"Hey boss the manipulator arms on the hot cell are degrading. They're gonna fail completely eventually and we'll be fucked.\"\n\nBoss: \"What do you think we should do?\"\n\nMe: \"I have no idea. Buy new arms?\"\n\nBoss: \"Those are $65,000 each and the new ones are the same model and made by the same company.\"\n\nMe: \"Ok well then we can do nothing I guess, but when the arms break we'll be fucked. Just a heads up.\"\n\nI'm not an engineer. I can tell the arms are getting worse and vaguely point to what seems to be a design flaw (since it's slowly getting worse), but I have literally no clue whatsoever as to how to fix or improve the things.", "I don't see it that way, but I'm willing to entertain the notion if you explain why you think that.", "As someone who's been a team lead before, I don't care if you disagree with a decision, so long as you understand why it was made.", "Conservatives worldwide. Blame shifters extraordinaire.", "I'm a great \"doer\" I think. But oh my god don't give me people to manage. AHHHH.\n\nI'm just like... y'all know how to do your jobs, right? Cool ok... uh... go... do them, then. :waves hands at work:\n\nIf that doesn't work out, my instinctive response is confusion. I thought they knew how to do their jobs!", "Me and some other long-time coworkers had this same issue with management not making decisions. It was at a huge corporation that made $100 Million deals quarter after quarter. We however, were a small division of technology leaders that had some great ideas about making millions and growing it to many millions. The problem was that we were making half million to three million dollar deals...not big numbers like they were used to seeing. Our plan, should they invest in us, would have resulted in larger teams pulling in multiples of one million dollar deals...all with margins WAY higher than they were used to seeing.\n\nThey never said no to us. Meeting after meeting when they looked at our financials, they never said \"Ok, we're done with this...you've got 30 days to get another position in the company\". They just sat around a table with VP's and finance people and arrived at a \"consensus\" that we should just be patient and wait for those bigger opportunities. We explained we need more staff and investment to get those opportunities. But it did nothing to change the situation. Just like in this video, they strung us along, never making a real yes or no decision. \n\nSo we all left that company on our own and now we are at a company that understands what we were trying to build. They invested in our idea, and it's growing. I feel the urge to send the execs at my previous company an email saying \"I TOLD YOU SO\".", "Conservatives: \"The status quo never fails\"\n\nStatus Quo: \\fails\\\n\nConservatives: \"Why would \\[marginalized group\\] do this?\"", "Sounds an awful lot like the benefits God gets", "While that's not a concept unique to IT, I find that CYA is CRITICAL in managing IT operations. Projects are complex, expensive, and require lots of coordination so the room for fuck-ups is enormous. If you dont document the ass-hat decisions and your aversion to them, you'll be the first one to go when the cycle of outsourced vs. in-house IT comes up again.", "This is interesting. I am currently getting put in a position of power in my field and managing people that are equally talented to me in my field ( I do not have more experience) I resort to consensus often. The reason is I do not have expertise greater than you on this. I just need to facilitate conversation. Although maybe I will feel differently if I stay in this field and I have more experience than my peers.", "Absolutely this. My first boss was a family member so I became comfortable conversing with the higher ups. This experience has been invaluable for being frank and confident with my opinions when I disagree with something.", "Part of my job is to anticipate technical issues. If I know of a solution, I’ll offer it, and if I don’t know of one, I’ll do the work to find out if there is a viable solution available.\n\nBut sometimes you just end up with ”can’t do that” or ”can’t afford to do that”, and have to cut losses. But as long as the people in charge are reasonable, that’s ok, too.", "God doesn't take credit for you, that's for sure.\n\nEdit: Butthead\n\nEdit2: Zing! Do people still say that?", "I appreciate the willingness to keep an open mind. It's a film that is 100% revenge porn about retribution for the Munich attacks without a single second devoted to why the attacks happened.\n\nDon't confuse the main character's personal morality crisis with an examination of the larger evils being committed.", "I meant that he gets credit for good stuff, and non of the blame for bad stuff", "Our society also generally punishes people for being doers, and shames them for it. It's basically always advised that you avoid \"doer\" language on your CV, everyone has to sell themselves as a leader, it's not enough to just know you can do shit really well but you'd rather not make the decision.", "I disagree that it is revenge porn. Revenge porn IMO would be something like Kill Bill where the protagonist kills and the audience is made to root for them, and there is no remorse. The main character in Munich seems to be a stand-in for the Israeli conscience and therefore the morality crisis that comes from continuing the cycle of violence is IMO a criticism of Israel's actions. Also, murdering people is \"evil\" whether it is the Israelis or the Palestinians, reasons be damned. (edit:Though I understand your point about omitting the reasons for the Munich attack, I don't think that a filmmaker should feel obliged to explain things that are frankly outside the scope of the story.) And I understand if you are completely unconvinced by my arguments because both sides seem to have a hate for the other embedded in their brain stems.", "I see your point and even somewhat agree. I would note that you didn't address what I think is the crux of my argument which is the failure to address in even the smallest way any of the underlying causal incidents leading to the Munich attacks. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nThe film doesn't question the underlying inequality and inequity of the Israeli state and its raison d'etre. The \"both sides are bad\" argument only works when both sides are on an equal footing. Pointing out moral failings without even the slightest of nods to the events that precipitated those failings is, in my view, pretty unforgivable.", "Love David Mitchell. My ex had a girl-crush on Victoria, too (I have a different kind of crush on Victoria, but neither here nor there).", "I edited my post to address your concern about the underlying causes. Basically I think our disagreement comes from you looking at the movie through a historical lens, and me looking at it from a storytelling lens. True, leaving out the reasons behind Munich attacks means the whole story isn't told. But the piece that is told is about the Israelis and how they see themselves. That's the film that Spielberg wanted to make. If a Palestinian makes a film about the events of that time period, I would not expect them to give the Israeli perspective much screen time either. Also important to note that this film was based on a book, which I haven't read but just from reading the subtitle it seems like it is much closer to a propaganda piece than the Spielberg adaptation.", "One of my old corporate buddies explained this to me once. It's basically like this:\n\nIf you're in a sufficient position to have your ideas heard, then you sit between to facts which might as well be universal constants, and if the idea you cobble together and manage to get an audience with the table that can execute said idea:\n\nA: It fails, and you lose the right to be heard, so you blame it on an underling to ensure your position.\n\nB: It succeeds, and you take all the credit because if it isn't you that's having the good ideas, than it isn't you that needs to be employed.", "1. Because they don't want to have to own the decision if shit goes south. (see? Everyone agreed we should do this)\n2. They want buy in\n4. They actually respect their subordinates and believe an effective plan really needs their input and expertise.... (which will help get 2", "I see what you're saying. I would argue that if a Palestinian made a similar film it would be Palestinian propaganda but the fact that there isn't a similar film and likely never will be - much less one with such a famous director, a major studio, and a massive marketing budget is part of the inequity I'm addressing.\n\nI'm not privy to Spielberg thoughts so I can't speak to what his intention for the film were. I can only speak to the effect of what I see on the screen which is the tale of how a people in power struggle morally with the burden of local imperialism.\n\nIf you're going to cite the book, you should know it was likely bunk. The author claimed to be a former Mossad agent but was actually a baggage handler at Tel Aviv airport.", "I haven’t seen it but that’s exactly what it is", "You don’t have to solve the problem, the solution can sometimes be “we can’t do x because of these reasons, but we can offer y as an alternative and this is why that’s a good thing”\n\nThat’s coming to someone with solutions.\n\nThe person who discovers the problem also doesn’t have to solve it, they just need to inform someone that there is a problem, or do the research to see if some form of viable solution is available, or get a team together to work out the solution.\n\nBut sometimes there is no solution to a problem and you need a plan B and THAT becomes the solution you pitch to the client.\n\nOf course, hopefully rarely, you’re met with a fuck up of epic proportions where the only thing you can do is cut your losses and move on.\n\nBut so far, I don’t think there’s anything that’s come up in my senior role that couldn’t be resolved or mitigated in some way.", "My previous boss was great and said to me, “when things go right I’ll be the first to give credit where credit’s due and sing your praises to management, but if mistakes are made they’re mine to own 100%. I know it’s inevitable mistakes will be made and all I ask is you do your best, be honest, and work hard.” She made me want to always do a great job and make us look good. It was just really inspiring.", "Its not. Many people can identify issues but if you actually want to be a professional then you should offer solutions to problems. \n\nIt's probably better worded as options and not solutions. Theres not always a good solution but there are always options. Boss needs to make the decision. You have to make sure they are aware of how the options you are sharing will fix the problem and what the risks are.", "I said this in another comment but that’s exactly what a previous boss said to me. “When things go right I’ll be the first to give credit where credit’s due and sing your praises to management, but if mistakes are made they’re mine to own 100%. I know it’s inevitable mistakes will be made and all I ask is you do your best, be honest, and work hard.”", "Yes this is what the video speaks of but if you're wrong- then be prepared to be wrong yourself. Its not just others.", "sounds nice, around here tories just shit the bed and go on vacation.", "This was incredibly frustrating until I knew the words and attitude to address “forced consensus”. \n\nI try and leave emotion at the door. It’s a job, we’re all here for the money, otherwise I’d be doing something fun. \n\nResponses like the following helped a lot:\n\n“My recommendation is this and this, but this is totally your client and your call.”\n\n“I disagree but I will support this with the best of my abilities.”", "My man Mitchell there referencing the final scene of Blackadder", "Yes and the leftists do the same thing", "Definitely my opinion but I am of the belief that I would rather not have someone waste their time trying to come up with a solution that they know will be totally off point. By no means am I saying if you can solve the problem don’t solve it. I’m just saying don’t hesitate to raise a legitimate problem just because you can’t solve it.\n\nI totally agree that directing the problem the right person is the correct move. But I’d say that’s a stretch to call that a solution. In my mind it’s all about getting the problem or information to the right person. \n\nThe saying is based in truth, but I think it’s way overused to the point that it’s detrimental to productivity.", "There's one thing that can happen, which really annoys me, and that's when I disagree with a solution based on tacit knowledge. \nYou can't point to examples because there isn't a single one that matches the current situation well enough. Instead it's the sum of all those barely remembered experiences that lead you to a conclusion that you are very certain of. And most of the time this happens because the problem is complex enough that solutions can't just be argued against with a single logical argument. \nI have slowly gotten better at communicating some of it and my colleagues trust me enough to make the effort to at least look for alternative solution, but it's just so frustrating.", "I feel like it then becomes you vs them and that you’re not giving it your all so that it fails, or even worse, you actively conspire against it so it does fail.", "That's being a better manager than a lot of bad managers out there.", "Sure, because management requires different skills. Not just decision-making, but making sure information flows both ways, delegating tasks, and knowing the strengths and weaknesses of the people under you.", "Meanwhile, American Jews will spend all day arguing their point and get to the same point.", "Like most idioms, it shouldn't be taken too literally. I would say consider who might be able to resolve the problem or offer some insight. \"We need to take this to X team or bring in a third party who have experience with this\". That is still offering a solution, or at least a route to a solution.", "Or when athletes praise god when they win but never blame him when the fumble the ball.", "You = bad stuff", "I can see where you're coming from in terms of getting people to listen to your ideas, but someone who can't accept a problem exists without being handed a solution on a platter shouldn't be in management. Identifying problems early is really important, and the person who sees the problem doesn't necessarily have to be the one to come up with the solution.\n\nIn that kind of work environment, projects end up failing and someone says afterward \"yeah, I saw that coming, but there's nothing we could have done\" and someone else then lists the numerous things that could have been done.\n\nEven if there's no possible solution or mitigation, it's still worth knowing in advance because when the problem does eventually manifest there's no scramble trying to work out if anyone knows how to solve it.", "Can we make this guy prime minister at some point?", "Honestly a little shocked David Mitchell's Soapbox doesn't get a regular rotation here. He's like if Reddit's powers were combined to make Captain Posh Reddit. Great rants.", "A pastor goes to visit one of his congregation on the farm. Upon seeing each of the farmers bountiful crops, he exclaims \"Praise God! What a beautiful bounty the Lord has provided.\" \"What amazing fruit the Lord grows!\" \"With God, all things are possible\" \n\n\nFinally, exasperated, the farmer cries \"You should have seen this place when the Lord was doing it all himself.\"", "This is like saying a goal keeper in soccer shouldn't bother preventing their team conceding a goal unless they're also going to take the ball up the other end and score all on their own.\n\nPreventing a bad decision is just as good (if not more so) as making a good one. Expecting a solution as well is just greedy/lazy.", "Federal job?", "Funny to see the disparity in upvotes between this comment and the one you are responding to blaming parents. Reddit is a foreign place nowadays.", "Yeah it's an absolute atrocity. It's not just people's personal decisions either: there's a bit of prejudice from above and massive crab-bucket mentality from below.", "This is actually an interesting point. I think there is a middleground where you can still voice disagreeance while also communicating that you're fully on board with attempting to make the idea work.\n\nThat being said even in my limited experience in a leader role I've literally seen people take a proposal I made to change how something is structured, not agree with it, and then as I left they didn't keep up with the work required to maintain it and it fell apart. Then the \"I told you so's\" start.\n\nIt was working better than our old system while I was there, and when people stopped maintaining it because I was no longer there it stopped working. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy because these people weren't on board with the idea to start and a part of them probably wanted it to fail so they wouldn't be wrong.\n\nHuman psychology is a tough one. That being said I am still adamantly in favor of letting people voice when they disagree, as long as it comes with the why they disagree as well. I don't need solutions outright, but I do need to understand the thought process of why you think it won't work so I can potentially modify what I'm proposing. Feedback is ridiculously important, and having people afraid to share it leads to big messes.", "I cannot recommend the book \"Five Dysfunctions of a Team\" highly enough.", "The route to a solution idea is the key to this. Bonus points for going as far down this route as you can without supervisor input. Research it a bit, get a quote, ect.\n\nI usually just try to imagine \"What is boss gonna say when I suggest this route?\" And then \"can i do that now, or do i need their approval to even start?\" Where approval is permission to spend money or my time on it or to bother other co-workers. Managing up.", "I think it's such a core concept in IT because it's a niche skillset that doesn't feel niche from the outside. If you're building a rocket and a rocket scientist says something can't be done a certain way, the MBAs and accountants listen to them.\n\nBut since everyone uses a computer, and has that one 12 year old nephew who's \"good with computers,\" they put you on the same level as that 12 year old and feel free to override you.", "Thought it was Tony hawk from the thumbnail. What a disappointment", "With respect, if you think IT and rocket science are remotely equivalent, you might need an ego check.", "This person is not saying that at all. Do your own personal check.", "Yeah I’d agree with all you are saying. I just think it’s a bad idiom. I have a guy that works for me that ipitomizes this idea and is super inefficient for the only reason that he try’s to solve all problems that come across his desk. Majority of the “problems” that he is trying to solve are actually great insights that can be used to inform other people’s jobs but he is to fixated on solving the insight as well", "Ha, my bosses haaaate emails. Always ask to be told things in person, and will respond to emails by calling you or walking down to talk in person. They fuckin hate documentation.", "Problem Solver: Hey man, your right turn signal is out. It’s not working, that’s a problem.\n\nGuy with broken blinker: well what should I do about it? I hope you have a solution otherwise why are you even telling me. If you don’t have a solution all you are doing is creating a problem for me. Not cool.\n\nProblem Solver: well I’ll be honest I don’t know shit about cars, but I’ve heard that sometimes your blinker goes out if your blinker fluid is running low. Maybe autozone for that?\n\nGuy with broken blinker: cool man, now you get it! Wonder is Amazon has it…..", "My old boss insisted on us documenting every little thing on the progress of our projects. Then would ask you a question on said project, without even looking at the documentation. \n\nWould also flip flop between \"eveything needs to go through me\" and \"I'm getting too many emails and can't do my own work\" whenever convenient.", "That's why there is the meeting to build consession.", "What is CYA?", "\"cover your a$$\" = a memo or note or letter that documents you did or did not want to do something at a particular point in time, but were overruled by group consensus or your boss to do so. In the aftermath, the CYA letter is your proof that you said it was wrong/right at the time.", "I just checked myself and found a lump. What now?", "Ugh, a few months ago I told one of my clients what they were doing was a fuck up and they shouldn't because it was going to have negative ramifications.\n\nIn general I write up an email and send it off to their and our team at the same time, in nice political language stating \"The client is about to make a major fucking mistake\"\n\nWell during that call I got busy and it lasted a few more hours and didn't ever send that email. And of course the situation went sideways when the clients plan didn't work, and now our sales people are asking why we didn't warn them, and they are trying to say we didn't warn them of the issue.", "When it comes to situations that could cause a loss of life, it is especially important to write the objection on paper and send emails, especially if those emails cross out of company servers/include vendors. When it comes to oh shit (OSHA) situations, most legal at companies realize if there is an early heavy paper trail on the issues that they can be absolutely destroyed by liability and are much less likely to take risky behavior.", "> They fuckin hate documentation.\n\nThat is the motherfucker you document every single thing with. When they call you in the office and talk, go back you your office and write an email that says \n\n\"Per our discussion a few minutes ago.....\" and get that shit in the system.", "That's funny. This is a true story. I was engineering liason at a Cdn. cell company in the 90's. I was told by my marketing boss to get the engineers to change the billing system so we could do something. He said they will give you some bullsh*t excuses, but you're an engineer so you won't fall for them. \n\nI go into the meeting, explain what marketing wants, and ask them for a time estimate. They look at me, and one woman says \"You understand, we don't own the source code.\" I said \"What?!\", and my look of consternation made it clear I wasn't baffled, just shocked. She asked \"Do you understand what that means?\" and when I said yes, she replied \"You're the first person in marketing that does.\"\n\nWe rented space on the billing system of another company. We could change rate tables, and discounts, and such, but any new structures required a detailed design spec to be submitted to the host company, who'd respond in six weeks with an estimate of cost and time. Perfectly normal in the world of software development, but not to the marketing mavens. \n\nWhen I report back to my boss, he still insists that it's just an excuse that engineering made \"because they're lazy\". I actually had to write a tiny program in BASIC to show him what software did.", "Perhaps call your local health line for advice, or book an appointment with a doctor.", "Nope, private company. Don't federal jobs have these weird G level positions that require time in grade or something to achieve?", "And don’t state it in from of other workers.", "One boss I had early on always had me act as a 'scribe' during the meetings. Afterwards, I would send out the minutes. As he explained it to me, 'he who controls the minutes, controls the meeting'.", "Eh. Sort of. SME is a common position in federal jobs, which is why I asked. During my time there I realized the title is meaningless, as my “SME” was constantly the one causing messes my coworkers and I had to clean up. This was a civilian position on a military base.", "Ah, I was using it as a descriptor, not a job title. \"Subject matter expert\" is a common description outside of government work, too.", "> I am only talking about 2 here.\n\nWell it's pretty clear then from this and posts from others that you're not talking about what this video is talking about.\n\n> I can't get metrics for someone who is working slightly slower. If I think they are and I ask them why, then they can just say they are tired or something. Humans don't have consistent mental output.\n\nRight, but in your example you've already made up your mind that I'm working slower because I didn't buy in to whatever we're doing. It sounds like you're thinking \"Well if I get buy in then he won't work slower\", but I could just as easily be faking the buy in and thus when I work slower you won't suspect anything nefarious on my end. Not that I would do that, but I think it undermines your logic that you have to get buy in from everyone on the team.\n\nBut this is beside the point, since it seems what you actually meant was not buy in but just agreement to implement whatever was decided upon.", "in practice, the commitment part means committing to do the bare minimum because you know it'll be a wasted effort.", "no u", "I wish he'd continue this series", "What annoys me most is that simply disagreeing with someone is turned into an attack.\n\nI've had people arguing with me because of \"rude, unhelpful\" comments in reddit threats when my post was literally \"I don't think so.\"\n\nLike, holy shit, all I said was that I don't agree, but because I didn't bend over backwards to cover it up with sugary, feel good language, I'm suddenly an asshole.", "Yeah obviously that's great if everyone can come to agreement naturally cool. Obviously. But sometimes that won't happen, and if a manager won't accept that then it'll lead to meetings like the one being complained about.\n\nOr did you mean they're going to build, like, a concession stand? Sell ice cream or something. That does sound like good management.", "To your point about being on topic, someone else asked me and responded here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qhlbl9/comment/hieqrx4/?utm\\_source=share&utm\\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qhlbl9/comment/hieqrx4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nYeah, you have good points, but not what I was talking about. Sorry I was unclear.", "Does it actually work though?", "The \"I can't be wrong\" boss. These are the worst." ]	173	videos	Why do team leaders insist on consensus?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZOJSZOwixk	/r/videos/comments/qhlm7z/lamb_leg_as_bait_in_a_big_natural_hole_pump_water/	[ "I don't get it they toss the leg in and pump all the water out right away, did the leg even have time to act as bait?", "Eel must be more expensive than lamb", "They don't, there's a timeskip in video. When they toss in the bait the pump isn't there.", "They had to have come back. \n\nThey have a channel, bunch of vids. One of them uses three pumps and a much bigger area.", "Well yeah, then they set up the pumps, doesn't take very long", "Well, no, probably isn't even the same day.", "Takes 10 minutes to set those pumps up they don't even have a downstream hose attached", "Which is completely irrelevant, there's still a time skip, and you don't know how long it lasted, could've been 10 minutes, could've been an hour, could've been a day or even several days. \n\nBut most likely, it was at least a day in between because that's just how fishing works.", "Fishing step 1: kill a lamb" ]	9	videos	Lamb leg as bait in a big natural hole, pump water out later and collect fish. Poor fishies. No English.

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